| 00:03.55 | DocScrutinizer | lacerda: yep, indeed. dbus-monitor |
| 00:04.07 | DocScrutinizer | NsaneCoffe: yw |
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| 00:06.38 | lacerda | DocScrutinizer, merlin1991: thanks to dbus-monitor I could find what I want :) |
| 00:06.47 | lacerda | state_changed signal |
| 00:06.52 | DocScrutinizer | wow |
| 00:07.59 | DocScrutinizer | I was already about to write a reply in #harm like "in HARM if it's not a function provided by QML you're not supposed to mess with it" |
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| 01:23.03 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.wirelessmodemapi.com :-(( |
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| 02:43.58 | pseudonymous | I'm having a strange issue - I have an ssh server running on my n900 - but it doesnt seem to be openssh (which I've installed) as changes in the config don't seem to be reflected. How to identify? |
| 02:54.52 | robbiethe1st | Make sure to restart the ssh server so it gets the changes |
| 02:57.43 | pseudonymous | robbiethe1st: I did ( '/etc/init.d/ssh stop' ) - Even after that the ssh server still seems to be running. It's strange |
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| 03:00.07 | robbiethe1st | dunnp |
| 03:00.11 | robbiethe1st | *dunno |
| 03:02.47 | DocScrutinizer | hey robbiethe1st |
| 03:02.57 | DocScrutinizer | long time no see :-) |
| 03:05.35 | robbiethe1st | More or less, yeah |
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| 03:13.48 | pseudonymous | robbiethe1st: woopie! Turns out I was being an idiot - I must've tabbed my way to greatness and glory and thus edited /etc/ssh/ssh rather than /etc/ssh/sshd |
| 03:17.21 | DocScrutinizer | so you got your problem sortd now? |
| 03:18.34 | pseudonymous | yup - I finally took the time to find some way of utilizing this n900 as a modem, about bloody time too.. If you appreciate the irony, I'm studying computer science at a university dedicated solely to IT - yet most of the time the wifi is b0rked |
| 03:18.57 | pseudonymous | (hence the mission get a connection via the phone) |
| 03:19.47 | DocScrutinizer | sounds all about as normal as it could get |
| 03:21.16 | DocScrutinizer | probably there's only one place on earth where WLAN is even more borked than at your uni: CCCamp |
| 03:21.21 | DocScrutinizer | ;-D |
| 03:21.25 | pseudonymous | Yea well - between incompetent IT staff (or seriously overworked, I don't know which tbh) and bad architectural decisions. It's a mess.. Anyway.. at least this will work :) |
| 03:22.14 | pseudonymous | DocScrutinizer: oh, CCC turned out to be what I thought it was - yea, NO WAY I'd hook up a machine to that ;) |
| 03:23.17 | robbiethe1st | Speaking of networking, I should go back and continue to try to get Bluetooth PAN working on my N900 |
| 03:24.38 | robbiethe1st | I'd like to take my Windows 7 machine which has internet and share it to my phone over PAN |
| 03:24.47 | pseudonymous | robbiethe1st: if it's on the client-side then perhaps you shouldn't bother. At least for my distro there seems to be a consensus that 1) bluetooth is a mess 2) is even moreso broken in this distro than others |
| 03:24.54 | pseudonymous | oh, nvm ;) |
| 03:25.55 | robbiethe1st | either way... |
| 03:32.18 | robbiethe1st | Actually, while you're around, DocScrutinizer... I have to ask: My N900's very usable. Period. But if I leave any applications open and leave it for a while, when I come back it'll sit there pulling stuff out of swap(I guess) for several minutes. It doesn't do this if I'm actively using the device, though |
| 03:32.27 | robbiethe1st | Any way to prevent it doing this? |
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| 03:34.40 | DocScrutinizer | robbiethe1st: you might try swappolube and the associated thread on tmo where several people posted results of reasonable effort and investigation to find best settings |
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| 03:36.12 | DocScrutinizer | esp when $applications you have open includes microb though, you are better off simply closing microb as soon as you don't actively use it anymore |
| 03:36.58 | robbiethe1st | Yeah, I suppose |
| 03:37.18 | robbiethe1st | See, the thing that bothers me is that it swaps properly and is fast and reactive when in use |
| 03:37.22 | DocScrutinizer | there are some webpages out there that tend to eat all TAM and swapspace even on my desktop PC, no matter which browser I use |
| 03:37.29 | robbiethe1st | Multiple microB windows and things are still fluid. |
| 03:38.04 | robbiethe1st | ... it's just if I leave it for a bit, it 'goes to sleep', and then swaps like mad. |
| 03:38.21 | DocScrutinizer | some supposedly flash advertisment adds on pages tend to eat ram as long as they run |
| 03:39.00 | DocScrutinizer | also youtube |
| 03:39.09 | DocScrutinizer | anything with flash |
| 03:39.15 | DocScrutinizer | sometimes also JS |
| 03:39.46 | robbiethe1st | Well, I blocked flash, so that's not an issue |
| 03:39.52 | DocScrutinizer | last Konqueror crash been like 5h ago, on my laptop |
| 03:39.57 | robbiethe1st | (the flashBlock click-to-play thingie works great) |
| 03:40.12 | DocScrutinizer | mhm |
| 03:40.19 | DocScrutinizer | no clue then |
| 03:40.43 | DocScrutinizer | I'm just used to the problem, and deal with it by closing all browser windows as soon as possible |
| 03:41.20 | robbiethe1st | yeah, same |
| 03:42.11 | DocScrutinizer | maybe we could help the issue by starting browserd with some quotas for ram usage |
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| 03:42.30 | DocScrutinizer | so it outokills rather than hogging 600MB ram |
| 03:42.35 | DocScrutinizer | auto* |
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| 05:48.42 | internetishard | what's the best phone (besides n900) with a hardware keyboard? |
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| 06:08.42 | internetishard | http://circuitzoo.com/2010/08/14/mobile-phone/nokia-n900-top-bottom-view-pcb where do I find out what these names mean? "V1311" etc... |
| 06:27.06 | internetishard | boy the screen cable is hard to get back in |
| 06:29.51 | psycho_oreos | I don't think they mean anything apart from just references to which component is what. I think you may find that in the N900 schematics. They maybe available from wmo |
| 06:33.17 | internetishard | trying to fix my keyboard |
| 06:33.29 | internetishard | 'g' stopped working after i dropped some water on it |
| 06:33.32 | internetishard | and then the whole keyboard |
| 06:34.21 | psycho_oreos | N900 isn't a phone, its an internet tablet with phone functionality. N950 would have been its successor or maybe a crossbred between N950 and n9 components (RAM, NFC, gorilla glass, etc). Apart from that, there's no "best" each smartphone or internet tablet with phone functionality are good and bad in their own ways |
| 06:35.29 | internetishard | You have a favorite |
| 06:35.38 | internetishard | highest end smartphone with HW keyboard |
| 06:37.06 | psycho_oreos | maybe aava mobile? |
| 06:38.03 | internetishard | ...and it starts |
| 06:38.38 | internetishard | moment of truth! |
| 06:38.45 | psycho_oreos | even a very high end smartphone comes with its own set of limitations |
| 06:39.01 | internetishard | I'm looking for one with a HW keyboard |
| 06:39.04 | internetishard | aava does? |
| 06:41.07 | internetishard | HAH |
| 06:41.13 | internetishard | keyboard is working again... not the 'g' button though |
| 06:41.15 | psycho_oreos | looks like it doesn't have HW keyboard, I thought the prototype variant did |
| 06:42.05 | psycho_oreos | there's a few high end android powered smartphones that has HW keyboard |
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| 06:44.02 | internetishard | Like? |
| 06:44.21 | internetishard | There are lots of android phones people would call "high end" |
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| 06:47.10 | psycho_oreos | Motorola DROID 4 XT894 |
| 06:48.00 | psycho_oreos | exactly, reinstating what I stated before that "high end" term would be circumstantial |
| 06:48.25 | internetishard | I just want an eeepc in the form factor of the n900 |
| 06:48.36 | internetishard | with GPS et al that works great |
| 06:48.46 | psycho_oreos | not going to happen |
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| 09:51.51 | DocScrutinizer | internetishard: you should remove domesheet and clean and dry thoroughly with a smooth cloth |
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| 10:19.09 | Sicelo | DocScrutinizer: btw what is 'technical' name for the barrel connectors, eg on old nokia charger? |
| 10:19.37 | DocScrutinizer | err, that |
| 10:19.47 | DocScrutinizer | dunno a better name |
| 10:19.55 | DocScrutinizer | not even in german |
| 10:20.26 | DocScrutinizer | in German I recently read "hollow plug" |
| 10:20.31 | Sicelo | there's a wikipedia page u showed last time :/ |
| 10:20.49 | Sicelo | a few months ago.. |
| 10:20.59 | Sicelo | funny how when u need something u can't find it :) |
| 10:23.34 | Sicelo | ah, think i got it.. this one, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_connector#Cylindrical_connectors |
| 10:23.38 | Sicelo | thanks DocScrutinizer |
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| 10:27.44 | ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/17/motorola_patents/ |
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| 11:28.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | Sicelo: wait a few minutes, will find that wiki page for you whwen back home |
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| 11:37.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | Sicelo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_connector |
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| 11:38.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | aka coaxial power connector |
| 11:38.47 | Sicelo | that's it. :) |
| 11:38.53 | Sicelo | thanks a million |
| 11:39.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | YW |
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| 11:47.32 | Hurrian | is someone trying to convert the N900 to barrel power? |
| 11:51.10 | SpeedEvil | What? |
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| 11:52.30 | Sicelo | :P |
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| 11:53.11 | DocScrutinizer | I know supercow power |
| 11:53.18 | DocScrutinizer | but barrel power... |
| 11:53.19 | Sicelo | no. i just needed it for reference. i knew it was discussed here sometime ago, so i decided to ask |
| 11:53.22 | Sicelo | :) |
| 11:54.01 | Sicelo | iirc it's usuallly discussed here in connection with flashing when u have almost no power remaining on your battery |
| 11:54.14 | Sicelo | ~flat-bat-recover |
| 11:54.24 | DocScrutinizer | well, a misconception |
| 11:54.38 | DocScrutinizer | ~flatbatrecover |
| 11:54.38 | infobot | Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered Nokia wallcharger to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover |
| 11:56.03 | DocScrutinizer | in fact power via dedicated receptacle would be most useful for hostmode |
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| 11:57.23 | DocScrutinizer | but actually also for flashing, as you're not supposed to draw >100mA from USB without proper ENUM which in turn would need a working system to do that ENUM |
| 11:57.53 | DocScrutinizer | unless you use fastcharger with D+/- short which obviously can't flash ;-P |
| 11:58.56 | DocScrutinizer | since flashing needs >100mA, you got that saftety check in NOLO that refuses to flash with flat battery |
| 12:00.27 | DocScrutinizer | which is usually a good thing, unless your root fs is totally borked to a state where no charging takes place, and also your battery is too low to make NOLO allow flashing a good new rootfs |
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| 12:01.48 | DocScrutinizer | NOLO allows charging, but allas not up to the limit of safe flashing, it tries to boot into linux prior to reaching that charge state :-S |
| 12:02.39 | DocScrutinizer | which in turn creates a merry charge-loop |
| 12:03.29 | DocScrutinizer | as system will deplete battery (when rootfs borked) as soon as NOLO thinks battery is strong enough to boot up linux |
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| 12:05.33 | DocScrutinizer | my suggestion been: teach NOLO to do charging up to at least 50% when plugging in power while holding 'C' key |
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| 12:05.44 | DocScrutinizer | alas NOLO is closed source :-((( |
| 12:05.56 | Raimu-X | *scratches head* |
| 12:06.04 | DocScrutinizer | you can implement same thing in uBoot though |
| 12:06.09 | Raimu-X | Was this a design oversight or something that seemed like a good idea at the time? |
| 12:06.43 | DocScrutinizer | it seemed like a good idea and usually works for 99.99% of cases |
| 12:07.42 | DocScrutinizer | the missing "C" option in NOLO is an oversight though |
| 12:08.16 | DocScrutinizer | they added a similar function for N9, though via flasher tool |
| 12:08.44 | Raimu-X | Aha. |
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| 12:09.52 | DocScrutinizer | N9 flasher forces charging until safe-to-flash |
| 12:10.27 | DocScrutinizer | I gather it does that via N9 NOLO |
| 12:11.49 | DocScrutinizer | for N900 the most quoted advice relating maemo applies: charge your battery before flashing or messing with rootfs |
| 12:12.02 | DocScrutinizer | charge it completely |
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| 12:12.14 | DocScrutinizer | do it immediately before your critical action |
| 12:12.30 | DocScrutinizer | not 8h before |
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| 12:14.35 | sLumPia | hi guys, howto make maemo never disconnected my xchat connect? |
| 12:15.13 | DocScrutinizer | hm? |
| 12:15.18 | sLumPia | i have remove autodisconnect or any other similar application |
| 12:15.39 | DocScrutinizer | well, works flawless here |
| 12:16.26 | sLumPia | but xchat always disconnect after a couple of minutes or so, if i do nothing with the phone |
| 12:16.34 | DocScrutinizer | hmm |
| 12:16.36 | DocScrutinizer | strange |
| 12:16.53 | DocScrutinizer | check your ping/keep-alive time setting in xchat |
| 12:17.00 | sLumPia | well, not xchat, but my gprs 3g connection |
| 12:17.20 | DocScrutinizer | err, you say the 3G disconnects? |
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| 12:18.24 | sLumPia | yup |
| 12:18.30 | DocScrutinizer | if so, you got some leftovers from any of your autodisconnect apps you removed |
| 12:18.58 | DocScrutinizer | a plain fremantle maemo should never disconnect from 3G as long as you got sufficient signal |
| 12:19.00 | njeisecke | Hi! Does anybody know how to change the maximum size for SIP/RTP UDP frames on the lovely N9? |
| 12:19.32 | DocScrutinizer | /join #harmattan /join #n9 |
| 12:19.35 | njeisecke | oop, wrong room. sorry |
| 12:19.59 | sLumPia | where is autodisconnect configuration file save, usually? |
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| 12:23.01 | Sicelo | also bad mobile operator may be to blame. i get disconnects too, unless i have jabber/gtalk/etc online (guess these have more frequent pings) |
| 12:23.22 | sLumPia | DocScrutinizer, you're right. autodisconnect still not remove completely |
| 12:23.57 | sLumPia | dpkg -l | grep ^rc have autodisconnect in the list |
| 12:23.57 | Sicelo | hmm, i never had that |
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| 12:24.29 | sLumPia | i will try purge it first |
| 12:25.30 | sLumPia | does dpkg --purge need reboot to complete the action? |
| 12:27.10 | Sicelo | no.. but who knows what autodisconnect does.. |
| 12:27.22 | sLumPia | btw, how can i use nick autocomplete on xchat? where is that 'tab' button? |
| 12:27.59 | Sicelo | i bound it to shift+backspace :) |
| 12:28.49 | sLumPia | care to share howto do it? |
| 12:29.12 | sLumPia | i'm new with maemo/n900 |
| 12:31.11 | sLumPia | and you just need to check the setting menu **sorry for my lazy question |
| 12:32.29 | Sicelo | Xchat > Settings > Advanced > Keyboard Shortcuts .. |
| 12:33.33 | DocScrutinizer | sLumPia: Sicelo: (autodisconnect) messes with the guts of ICD and whatnot. Probably reflash due |
| 12:34.10 | DocScrutinizer | sLumPia: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/xchat/ |
| 12:34.23 | Sicelo | is relieved he never installed that :) |
| 12:36.46 | sLumPia | reflash? howso? |
| 12:37.15 | sLumPia | is autodisconnect as bad as battery/speed patch? |
| 12:37.21 | sLumPia | :( |
| 12:38.34 | DocScrutinizer | probably, I don't know either |
| 12:38.57 | DocScrutinizer | at least for autodisconnect I could at least guess what it might mess up |
| 12:39.16 | DocScrutinizer | and that's a lot of files and gconf keys you can't easily restore |
| 12:40.49 | DocScrutinizer | of course you could analyze autodisconnect source and/or dpkg and see what files and gconf-keys get affected, and try to restroe just these. OR you restore a backupmenu backup done prior to installation of autodisconnect |
| 12:41.28 | sLumPia | d*mn, i dont have backup prior to autodisconnect |
| 12:41.30 | DocScrutinizer | or you simply do a normal backup, reflash, and "restore" (i.e. re-install) all your apps |
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| 12:42.06 | sLumPia | i though autodisconnect is one of those must install apps after a reflash |
| 12:42.06 | DocScrutinizer | I hope and guess autodisconnect garbage won't get backup'ed by normal backup app |
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| 12:59.41 | DocScrutinizer | autodisconnect is basically useless, except for one particular case: when your carrier thinks it's a good idea to expose your IP to the general internet without any NAT and/or firewall in between, so you see lots of *inbound* pings/requests that also make the modem crank up the transmitter and eat battery like mad. There's no other way to stop this pathological case than just disconnecting the GPRS wireless connection. |
| 13:00.33 | DocScrutinizer | for all other - less pathological - usecases there's no benefit and sometimes even a penalty in tearing down connections |
| 13:01.37 | DocScrutinizer | ooh, yeah. A borked WIFI AP can force you to set wifi power saving mode to low or none, which also is a "pathological case" |
| 13:04.08 | sLumPia | well according to the site i read, it will save the battery when maemo disconnect the connection |
| 13:04.09 | sLumPia | now i know howto scary wrong information can be |
| 13:04.09 | sLumPia | damn, i hate reflash |
| 13:07.44 | DocScrutinizer | sLumPia: read about power consumption and conxerving at http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Power_Consumption (connected idle 2/3G: +5/+8mA) |
| 13:08.54 | sLumPia | hm...i think dont need to reflash. my 3g connection didnt disconnect |
| 13:08.58 | DocScrutinizer | I.E the 3G data connection would run 150h from your battery, if the rest of system wouldn't also eat some power |
| 13:09.31 | sLumPia | sorry, i got to go idle for a couple of minutes |
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| 13:21.07 | sLumPia | test |
| 13:21.20 | sLumPia | yes, it still connected |
| 13:21.24 | sLumPia | :) |
| 13:21.37 | sLumPia | no reflash needed |
| 13:22.54 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: I love them b0rked wifi aps (I have one here :/) |
| 13:23.13 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 13:23.25 | DocScrutinizer | brand? |
| 13:23.37 | DocScrutinizer | model? |
| 13:23.41 | Gear_ | the drive in this netbook makes a lot of clicking |
| 13:23.42 | DocScrutinizer | FW-rev? |
| 13:23.45 | DocScrutinizer | :-D |
| 13:24.02 | Gear_ | and sometimes a kind of beep noise |
| 13:24.09 | DocScrutinizer | hmm |
| 13:24.13 | Gear_ | is it dying? |
| 13:24.19 | DocScrutinizer | possibly |
| 13:24.24 | DocScrutinizer | check SMART |
| 13:24.35 | Gear_ | what's smart |
| 13:24.38 | Sicelo | CNet's CWa-854 hasn't disappointed me with PSM and N900 :) |
| 13:25.27 | DocScrutinizer | halley:~ # smartctl --help |
| 13:25.28 | DocScrutinizer | smartctl 5.39 2009-08-08 r2872~ [i686-pc-linux-gnu] (openSUSE RPM) |
| 13:25.29 | merlin1991 | D-Link DIR-635 hw version B3 firmware version 2.33EU |
| 13:25.45 | DocScrutinizer | WAAAH, same here |
| 13:25.46 | merlin1991 | ^ sucky piece of shit |
| 13:25.57 | DocScrutinizer | oops nope, 615 |
| 13:26.12 | Gear_ | I'm running xp |
| 13:26.16 | Gear_ | on this atom thing |
| 13:26.24 | merlin1991 | Gear_: there is a smart tool for win |
| 13:26.28 | merlin1991 | lemme check |
| 13:26.31 | DocScrutinizer | nfc how to check SMART via wincrap |
| 13:26.57 | DocScrutinizer | ~wiki smart |
| 13:27.11 | merlin1991 | Gear_: speedfan also checks smart |
| 13:27.16 | DocScrutinizer | meh |
| 13:27.30 | Gear_ | speedfan? this is an atom netbook |
| 13:27.37 | merlin1991 | who cares? |
| 13:27.44 | merlin1991 | you don't need the cpu features after all? :D |
| 13:27.59 | merlin1991 | smart is independend of the cpu ;) |
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| 13:28.15 | Gear_ | k |
| 13:28.20 | Gear_ | can I check it with bios |
| 13:28.31 | merlin1991 | depends on your bios |
| 13:28.35 | merlin1991 | mine has no support for that |
| 13:28.36 | merlin1991 | some do |
| 13:30.17 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.wintotal.de/tipparchiv/?rb=36&id=755 |
| 13:30.41 | DocScrutinizer | usually all you can do in BIOS is to enable SMART |
| 13:30.56 | Gear_ | should I enable it |
| 13:31.18 | DocScrutinizer | sure |
| 13:31.41 | DocScrutinizer | >>Freeware-Tools, die den S.M.A.R.T.-Staus auslesen können: - CrystalDiskInfo - HDDScan - HD Tune - SpeedFan - Acronis Drive Monitor - Advanced Task- & Startup-Manager - GSmartControl<< |
| 13:32.42 | DocScrutinizer | of course also a lot of HSS manuf proprietary diagnostic tools |
| 13:33.08 | DocScrutinizer | s/HSS/HDD/ |
| 13:34.45 | DocScrutinizer | Gear_: TBH you should shoot the manuf of the netbook, or alternatively the dude at the shop where you purchased it, when SMART isn't already enabled |
| 13:35.32 | Gear_ | yeah this is old |
| 13:35.46 | Gear_ | it's supposed to be unused |
| 13:36.21 | Gear_ | also it came with two partitions and some other weirdo ones, I deleted them all and made the drive into one ntfs partition |
| 13:36.36 | Gear_ | could that cause a problem |
| 13:51.35 | DocScrutinizer | nt for the drive |
| 13:51.38 | DocScrutinizer | ot |
| 13:51.41 | DocScrutinizer | dang |
| 13:51.53 | DocScrutinizer | NOT for the HDD drive |
| 13:53.15 | DocScrutinizer | winds an alarm clock to remember watching result of smartctl -t long /dev/sda |
| 13:54.22 | DocScrutinizer | >>... Drive command "Execute SMART Extended self-test routine immediately in off-line mode" successful.\n Testing has begun.\n Please wait 58 minutes for test to complete.\n Test will complete after Fri Feb 17 15:48:05 2012<<< |
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| 14:00.55 | DocScrutinizer | Gear_: check for read errors / postitioning errors, also for spin-up time |
| 14:05.17 | DocScrutinizer | ~swiki s.m.a.r.t. |
| 14:05.23 | DocScrutinizer | ~wiki s.m.a.r.t. |
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| 14:15.00 | RST38h | "There is damage caused by natural disaster, intentional or unintentional misuse, acts of war, space invasions, abuse, neglect, improper maintenance, or use under abnormal conditions" |
| 14:15.10 | RST38h | ASUS warranty terms |
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| 14:20.59 | StyXman_ | :) |
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| 14:51.51 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: I assume ASUS excludes all these from warranty |
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| 14:52.52 | DocScrutinizer | plus "normal wear and tear", of course |
| 14:54.10 | DocScrutinizer | and it's user's obligation to deliver proof there's no previous or ongoing space invasion by invisible HDD-eating monsters |
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