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01:48.35prontoso i'm trying to flash my n900, i installed flasher 3.5, and whne i try to run it i get bash: /usr/bin/flasher: No such file or directory
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05:27.43prontoand i now has pwnie express on mah phone :D
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06:15.24threshwaves
06:20.16threshdoes anyone know of a good application to keep track of FOSDEM tracks / events?
06:20.32threshlast year it was Sojourner, but now it shows K/G Desktop summit stuff :-)
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06:25.03niloy__hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii guys
06:26.39niloy__someone help me, I want to compile nodejs for N900
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06:51.07threshanyway, I've updated Sojourner to use current FOSDEM schedule, please see http://git.altlinux.org/people/thresh/public/sojourner.git and the binary is on http://81.23.10.138/sojourner_0.2.5_all.deb
06:51.11threshcheers
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10:41.37ebzzryWhy did I suddenly lose highlighting, that is, an item is highlighted blue when I tap on it.
10:49.22ebzzryTo be more specific, Im referring to the painted color of items
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12:15.19scoobertronI'm using qtlockscreen with a very simple config (just the time and unlock button).  it seems to take a second or two before the button is active - so even if I reduce the press-time to 1ms, it still takes a couple of seconds before the button can be pressed.  is this normal?
12:18.21edheldilscoobertron:  I have the same problem, probably unsolvable :(
12:20.47scoobertronbummer - I even switched back to the default theme, which has a slider, and that also seems not to respond immediately.
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13:29.53stazhi
13:30.32stazanybody has a working virtualbox and could build a package for https://gitorious.org/~olethanh/sojourner/olethanhs-sojourner fosdem2012 branch?
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13:31.20threshhaha
13:31.35threshI just did in the morning, though I've used http://git.altlinux.org/people/thresh/public/sojourner.git
13:31.42threshthe binary is on http://81.23.10.138/sojourner_0.2.5_all.deb
13:32.26stazoh nice
13:33.11stazI will ask the orginal maintainer if he can upload it on the repo
13:33.24threshsweet
13:34.08threshI've changed the Maintainer: entry though, not sure it's appropriate
13:34.28prontoso now that i have pwnie express on my n900...i need to figure out what to do with it xD
13:37.17stazthresh: he is looking for a new maintainer so he won't probably mind
13:38.59threshstaz: yeah but I'm pretty sure I wouldnt be any good one...
13:39.13threshI've no plans to go anywhere else than FOSDEM this year
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13:47.51staz14:37 < wjt> i hate to be unhelpful, but, no
13:47.51staz14:37 < wjt> i don't have the .dsc and source tarball and so on; i don't have my credentials handy; it's not hard (IIRC) to get fremantle extras credentials; i don't want to stamp my name on something i haven't  run and don't use
13:48.05stazthresh: you don't have a fremantle extras credentials per any chance?
13:48.33threshstaz: nope
13:48.44thresh.dsc and .tar.gz and everything is available on http://81.23.10.138/
13:48.54threshif that's of any help, though
13:50.10threshbut I'd be reluctant to sign anything as well
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13:51.31stazok
13:53.53stazso let's see if I can fix my virtualbox and send a new package
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15:35.43[DarkGUNMAN]does anhyone know their way around pali's release of u-boot menu well enough to get Nemo running?
15:37.33merlin1991[DarkGUNMAN]: I heaven't tried his release yet (though I would appreciate a link) but I've talked to him about it
15:37.39merlin1991should work just like the one in the repos
15:37.59merlin1991attach kernel to u-boot binary flash and you're ready
15:38.58[DarkGUNMAN]how do i obtain the kernel?
15:40.25[DarkGUNMAN]last time i had this working by flashing the sdcard with the nemo image, then using matan's u-boot attached to power48 kernel
15:41.19merlin1991well you need to attach the uimage of the kernel you currently use on maemo
15:41.35merlin1991so get the kernel packge tranform it to a uimage and combine
15:41.51[DarkGUNMAN]trying run sdboot from uboot console starts nemo, but i get an endless stream of denied errors
15:42.13merlin1991ouch
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15:53.24[DarkGUNMAN]would that mean using uboot to launch the combined image i created with matans uboot attached?
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15:56.47merlin1991what do you mean by combined image?
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16:29.33dmotdhello. anyone here with opengles experience?
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16:31.28dmotdi'm porting an application (gem for pd) to gl es, but glFrustumf and glClearDepthf crash the program - they seem to be missing? is that possible?
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16:36.34dmotdthis is with opengles-1.1 (/usr/include/gles/gl.h -> /usr/lib/libGLES_CM.so)
16:37.04dmotd(oops /usr/include/GLES/gl.h)
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17:56.43freemangordontrumee, ping
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18:20.05trumeefreemangordon, pong
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18:20.41freemangordontrumee, I am unable to reproduce DSP crash with videos from http://feeds.feedburner.com/cnet/top5?format=xml
18:21.00freemangordonworks like charm, both streaming and from local storage
18:21.12trumeefreemangordon, i dont have 720p codecs
18:21.16freemangordonme too
18:21.24trumeefreemangordon, that is strange
18:21.34freemangordoni've reverted them on my second n900
18:22.00trumeefreemangordon, Sicelo confirmed on his device too that videos didnot work
18:22.04freemangordonmay i have your /etc/modprobe.d/bridgedriver contents?
18:22.19trumeei am on kp48 atm
18:22.37freemangordondoes not matter
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18:22.57trumeeoptions bridgedriver phys_mempool_base=0 base_img=/lib/dsp/baseimage.dof
18:23.50freemangordonlooks ok. well, have no clue what is wrong with your device, but it works here.
18:24.28trumeei think we need somebody else to confirm
18:24.35vi__ffs
18:24.37freemangordonagree
18:24.40vi__where is video
18:24.55freemangordon<PROTECTED>
18:24.57vi__i watch it on kp49 with harmat codecs
18:25.02freemangordonno
18:25.06freemangordonwe need stock
18:25.06vi__no?
18:25.10vi__bah
18:25.15trumeevi__, not we need a check with stock codecs
18:25.30trumeeSicelo, ping
18:25.33vi__nae c**** runs stock anymore.
18:26.34vi__so your video fails to play on your device running stock everythin trumee?
18:26.47trumeefreemangordon, is your other device newly flashed with CSSU stable and kp49?
18:26.47trumeefreemangordon, since that is what i have
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18:27.39freemangordonwell, it is my development device, but before making tests I reinstall gst-openmax, gst-dsp and rebooted
18:27.42trumeevi__, kp49 + cssu stable=fail, kp48+ cssu stable=ok, stock kernel+cssu stable=ok
18:28.21freemangordonCSSU has nothing to do with DSP (for now)
18:29.13trumeefreemangordon, do you need any info from my device which would be of help?
18:29.23vi__and where did this video come from?
18:29.38vi__also i asume mplayer can handle it?
18:29.43freemangordonyep
18:29.47trumeevi__, no idea, it is CNET podcast
18:29.58trumeemplayer with kp49 is ok here
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18:30.16trumeeguess dsp is not used in mplayer
18:30.27DocScrutinizer51thus I can't see how anything other than maybe PK49 might melt down video
18:30.28vi__and do other cnet podcasts fail as well?
18:30.53freemangordonDocScrutinizer, it WFM
18:30.55trumeei tried Loaded podcast, they failed too
18:31.21DocScrutinizer51freemangordon: no PK49 here
18:31.37vi__so all cnet podcasts fail?
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18:32.23trumeevi__, i didnt try many only a few. all those worked in stock and kp48
18:32.46vi__so it is just a single unique freak of a file
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18:33.03vi__that fails on only your device?
18:33.18trumeevi__, and Sicelos device
18:33.45vi__perhaps the file is corrupt
18:34.01trumeevi__, no file plays in mplayer and kp48
18:34.15ruskiehttp://www.reghardware.com/2012/02/01/munich_court_rejects_apple_demand_for_ban_on_samsung_galaxy_tab_tablet/
18:34.18Sicelohey trumee
18:34.24vi__perhaps it was made on a 'doze machine and they have not terminated CR properly.
18:34.53trumeeSicelo, we need a confirmation that video does not work on your device
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18:34.55vi__mplayer will play anything.
18:35.12vi__Sicelo: then you need to confirm you set up.
18:35.28trumeeSicelo, the cnet podcast video. can your confirm you dont have 720p codecs
18:35.51freemangordonBTW have in mind I am running pre50, although I don't see a reason why a video bugging 49 would be ok on pre50
18:36.15trumeefreemangordon, pre50 also doesn't play here
18:36.22DocScrutinizer51PLEASE! can we saet up a *proper* poll. with link to a known-to-tickle-bug video and all?
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18:37.23freemangordontrumee, which is the *EXACT* video that refuse to play
18:37.46Sicelohow can i confirm trumee?
18:37.50Siceloafaik i don't
18:38.14trumeefreemangordon, pls give me 20 mins. will confirm when i reach home
18:38.38trumeefreemangordon, pls can you confirm with Sicelo
18:38.59vi__1 file failing to play on 1 machine sounds like a non bug to me.
18:39.04vi__ship it.
18:39.56Sicelovi__: it breaks on mine too
18:40.00freemangordonvi__, lets make sure it is 1 video on 1 machine.
18:40.08freemangordonSicelo, which one?
18:40.12Siceloi just happen to not use videos so much on my n900.
18:40.24Sicelotrumee's cnet vids, on kp49
18:40.31vi__Sicelo: you cannot remember if you replaced libgstdsp.so.
18:40.34freemangordongive me one example
18:41.06freemangordonsince all cnet videos i've tried here play pretty well
18:41.18Sicelovi__: i didn't. i have no use for 720p or anything similar
18:41.53Sicelofreemangordon: can't give u one now as i've booted debian on my n900 atm
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18:42.32freemangordonok, I will wait for trumee's feedback then
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18:43.31vi__with kp49 in testing, maybe now is the time to load kp50 to dev with a fatass warning.  From there we can orchestrate a bugsplat using a wider range og lemmings...uh 'users'.
18:43.53Sicelovi__  : ?
18:43.58freemangordon:D, seems like pali is busy till the end of the week
18:44.39freemangordonso i won't expect that to happen before lets say Saturday
18:44.52vi__meh
18:45.32vi__and this is why i should have received a spare n900 from that stupid meego coding farce.  
18:45.51vi__so I can help test this shit.
18:45.52Sicelofreemangordon: https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-01-28.log.html#t2012-01-28T19:27:38
18:46.35vi__so we dont have to handhold some dumbass through triggering the bug to only find he has maemodder and asspatch installed.
18:47.01freemangordonSicelo, thanks, will try it
18:47.21Sicelothis is the one i downloaded, http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp4/dw.com.com/redir/cnet_2012-01-23-175133.dl.mp4?destUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fcnet.co%2FxfurbS%3FADPARAMS%3DBRAND%3D47%7CSITE%3D53%7CSP%3D181%7CPOS%3D100%7CNCAT%3D13482%3A13489%3A&ontId=14106&siteId=145&edId=3&asid=50118791&pid=&astId=31&ltype=dl_dlnow
18:48.01vi__freemangordon: did you increase jpeg quality in lingstdsp.so for kp50?
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18:52.02freemangordonvi__, you noob, gst-dsp is not a part of the kernel :p
18:52.17freemangordonSicelo, that streams just fine here
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18:53.47DocScrutinizeropen ticket against PK49, comment: "please paste here rsult of cmdline: "date; uname -a; sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver"
18:54.40DocScrutinizer\n "please test http://URL-to-video.swf and tell here if it plays full length"
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18:55.51DocScrutinizer\n "we need several reports of the combinations of PoweKern47, 48, 49, and stock kernel, with at least stock maemo and maybe also both CSSU-Trsting and -Stasble"
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18:57.30DocScrutinizer\n "please also add the output of 'apt-cache policy gst-dsp', ktnx"
18:57.40trumeefreemangordon: ok, how can i help?
18:58.16freemangordoninstall pre50 kernel, the same we use to test BT headset
18:58.16DocScrutinizeris any of you capable to open such a ticket and beautify my raw sketch for cmdline info collector as of above?
18:58.31trumeefreemangordon: ok
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18:58.46DocScrutinizerno use in wild info pingpong here
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19:01.08DocScrutinizeroops missed sth: \n "please also add output of 'cat /proc/cpu', thanks again"
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19:04.07DocScrutinizerso to sum up: >>date; uname -a; sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver; cat /proc/cpu; apt-cache show gstreamer0.10-dsp
19:04.28DocScrutinizersth else?
19:04.51DocScrutinizerlibmafw or sth?
19:05.50Sicelothanks DocScrutinizer \o/ your approach is the sanest so far
19:05.53vi__freemangordon: I know, it is just that it is a 'free' improvement that breaks nothing and improves somthing simply by changing 3 characters. I was just wondering if you had enabled it.
19:06.16DocScrutinizerapt-cache show mafw-gst-renderer
19:06.54freemangordonvi__, there is a new upstream version of maemo6 gst-dsp, still fighting with it
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19:07.46DocScrutinizerwft is gst-dsp?
19:08.36freemangordonhttp://code.google.com/p/gst-dsp/
19:08.52vi__fair enough. FWIW in jpegenc.c (or what it is called) there is a line #define default_quality 85 (or something like that) thats the one, just wap it upto 100.
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19:09.54DocScrutinizer>>date; echo ===============; uname -a; echo ===============; sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver; echo ===============; cat /proc/cpu; echo ===============; apt-cache show gstreamer0.10-dsp; echo ===============; apt-cache show mafw-gst-renderer
19:10.24DocScrutinizerfreemangordon: how's an IRL resonsible for defects on N900?
19:10.29DocScrutinizerURL*
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19:11.20DocScrutinizerfreemangordon: will this friggin URL tell me to find out which version of your obscure gst-dsp I got or got not on my device?
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19:12.58freemangordonDocScrutinizer, it is not mine. And you can look maemo5 branch here:http://meego.gitorious.org/maemo-multimedia/gst-dsp for the version your device is running
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19:14.08DocScrutinizerthis branch for sure woun't tell me which version *my* device is running
19:14.23lofty306hehe
19:14.31DocScrutinizer>>date; echo ===============; uname -a; echo ===============; sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver; echo ===============; cat /proc/cpuinfo; echo ===============; apt-cache show gstreamer0.10-dsp; echo ===============; apt-cache show mafw-gst-renderer
19:17.04DocScrutinizerc'mon guys, you act like you never triaged a bug in your llife
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19:19.43merlin1991DocScrutinizer: I never did :D
19:19.49merlin1991at least properly :P
19:19.52DocScrutinizerwhat's that (probably dbus-send) cmd to invoke mediaplayer with a URL pointing to a video?
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19:20.40merlin1991i bet it's hildon_open thing
19:21.02DocScrutinizerand WHAT THE HECK is an URL that will fail to playback, on devices where it's failing?
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19:22.07DocScrutinizerthis "bwaah!! I can'T watch videos!!1!!1!1 does it work for you??" is *useless*
19:23.01DocScrutinizerprovide *PROPER* instructions to test, that yield a wealth of useful info about your testers' systems, and preferably are simple to c&p
19:23.07DocScrutinizeraka foolproof
19:23.39DocScrutinizerlike this:
19:23.45DocScrutinizer>>date; echo ===============; uname -a; echo ===============; sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver; echo ===============; cat /proc/cpuinfo; echo ===============; apt-cache show gstreamer0.10-dsp; echo ===============; apt-cache show mafw-gst-renderer
19:24.17DocScrutinizerno friggin "look into foobar branch to learn what I'm talking bout, fool!"
19:29.20Siceloor "so we dont have to handhold some dumbass through triggering the bug to only find he has maemodder and asspatch installed." .. which is rather offensive when one doesn't even have a clue what the configuration is on a particular system
19:29.37DocScrutinizerAndre_: or should this be """please execute '(date; echo ===============; uname -a; echo ===============; sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver; echo ===============; cat /proc/cpuinfo; echo ===============; apt-cache show gstreamer0.10-dsp; echo ===============; apt-cache show mafw-gst-renderer) >dsp-tret-result.txt;  #and attach this dsp-tret-result.txt file to your comment on this very ticket on bugs.maemo.org"""  ?
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19:30.38DocScrutinizererr, where's andre_?
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20:27.21doleHi! Does anyone here knows if the EQ in SomePlayer works with BlueTooth headsets?
20:27.48definityi dont know for sure but it should
20:28.34doleGreat! Then I will buy Sony Ericsson MW600
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20:30.19definitydude your better off buys a cheap fm reciver and just use the transmitter
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20:33.14doledefinity: yeah, the EQ will work with the FM-transmitter, but the sound quality sucks. The SQ sould be a lot better with BlueTooth than FM. I can also change track and answer calls with the MW600
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20:35.11jargon-is maemo.org down?
20:36.17jargon-getting a blank page when i go to http://maemo.org here
20:36.49definitydole: good pont!
20:37.00prontojargon-: same
20:37.07dolesame here
20:37.27dolethe forum is up though; http://talk.maemo.org
20:37.28jargon-oddly, http://talk.maemo.org works fine
20:37.31jargon-yeah
20:38.04definitywhats the best gps app u guys have come across
20:38.46dolejargon-: they goes to different servers, thats why the mainpages doesn´t work but the forum works
20:38.54jargon-dole: aah i see
20:39.55doledefinity: I think Navteq is the best
20:40.05dolehaven´t tried it though
20:42.18Sicelonavteq?
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20:44.21dolemaybe they only use the maps from Navteq
20:44.31doleI will look that up, w8
20:47.19doleyes, Sygic for N900 use maps from Navteq
20:47.27dolehttp://www.sygic.com/en/sygic-mobile-maps-for-nokia-n900-maemo-available-for-purchase
20:48.23SpeedEvilsygic is not available
20:48.41SpeedEvilyou can't buy it
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20:51.59DocScrutinizerooh. mo blank again? :-P
20:55.07doleDocScrutinizer: You usually knows everything about n900. So do you know if the EQ from SomePlayer works with BlueTooth headsets?
20:55.36DocScrutinizernot for sure
20:55.45DocScrutinizerbut I guess it should
20:56.08doleOk, good
20:56.22vi__just steal sygic from piratebay
20:56.41vi__then if you are european, pirate the teleatlas maps as well
20:58.46DocScrutinizeryou know Nokia bought some of the map companies when you click on http://www.de.map24.com/ and watch it forwarding you
20:59.40DocScrutinizerpretty fsckd up here though
21:00.01DocScrutinizerprobably once more "optimized for MIES" as usual with Nokia
21:00.05vi__ou know nokia bought some of the map companies when your atlas is 2 years late and will never be updated.
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21:02.18DocScrutinizeroh yeah, definitely. One more page that is twitter-fsckdup, I.E. shows a mainly blank page in konqueror. Seems Nokia loves blank pages ;-P
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21:26.22[DarkGUNMAN]ok.. going to give nemo one more go from uboot menu...
21:27.35[DarkGUNMAN]based off what i can see in the thread, i have it right except for the kernel entry
21:27.41[DarkGUNMAN]ITEM_NAME="MeeGo / Nemo"
21:27.58[DarkGUNMAN]ITEM_KERNEL=
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21:28.18[DarkGUNMAN]ITEM_USEATAG="1"
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21:29.18Sicelowouldn't that have been better for pastebin?
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21:29.55[DarkGUNMAN]which kernel entry should go there?
21:30.07[DarkGUNMAN]yeah maybe :)
21:30.59Sicelowhatever kernel nemo provides
21:31.38Sicelothe one that's in /boot
21:32.28[DarkGUNMAN]sorry if I don't understand
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21:33.03[DarkGUNMAN]how do i retrieve the kernel from /boot intop a kernel image file?
21:35.51[DarkGUNMAN]or am i providing the name of the kernel file that should be found in \boot:
21:35.57[DarkGUNMAN]?
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21:39.25Siceloaiui, kernel is provided alongside the image in the download directory. http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/... depending which one u chose.
21:40.13Siceloanyway, i'm not too good at this [DarkGUNMAN] . wait for someone else, or join #mer and #nemomobile
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21:42.52[DarkGUNMAN]thanks for the tip anyway, i've only flashed meego twice and didn't need to get the kernel file last time.
21:42.58[DarkGUNMAN]Thank you
21:43.54Siceloi could be wrong, i admit.
21:44.23Siceloonly thing i've done so far is boot debian (even at this very moment ;) via bootmenu.
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21:58.15Siceloand this method uses whatever kernel maemo is using at that time
22:01.27NIN101I still think loading loadint the kernel with the flasher is the least messy method. No modification anywhere and much simpler to do.  
22:02.09Sicelo+1. yeah
22:02.13Sicelo:)
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22:15.39doleFound an old BlueTooth headset and  the EQ works nice!
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