| 00:09.10 | *** join/#maemo ekze-nyan (~nyan@bakaekze.ru) |
| 00:09.35 | *** join/#maemo basiaf_ (~basiaf@2a01:238:433a:c200::1) |
| 00:09.44 | *** join/#maemo Tscheesy_ (~quassel@alfred.neversfelde.de) |
| 00:09.48 | *** join/#maemo HRH_H_Crab (~crab@kowloontong.dim-sum.org) |
| 00:10.08 | *** join/#maemo Milhouse (~irc_milho@Maemo/community/contributor/Milhouse) |
| 00:10.09 | *** join/#maemo valdyn (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 00:10.27 | *** join/#maemo C-S-B (~csb@ipv4-95-152-205-90.static.as8844.net) |
| 00:10.35 | *** join/#maemo eMHa (~mh@HSI-KBW-078-042-037-221.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 00:13.11 | *** join/#maemo Gi0__ (~Gi0@79.103.153.45.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 00:13.42 | *** join/#maemo NGNUton-BC (~gnuton@80-186-63-58.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 00:14.46 | *** join/#maemo TermanaBNC (Termana@2001:41d0:1:ec3a::3) |
| 00:15.12 | *** join/#maemo HRH_H_Cr1b (~crab@kowloontong.dim-sum.org) |
| 00:15.56 | *** join/#maemo otep_ (~quassel@AP-203.167.31.157.sysads.com) |
| 00:16.24 | *** join/#maemo agi (~agi@manson.entorno-digital.com) |
| 00:16.25 | *** join/#maemo SpeedyGhost (~moon3010@cl-340.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net) |
| 00:16.25 | *** join/#maemo edheldil (~edheldil@2001:1488:ac14:1400:222:19ff:fe31:415e) |
| 00:16.52 | *** join/#maemo SpeedyGhost (~moon3010@kvirc/translator/SpeedyGhost) |
| 00:17.21 | *** join/#maemo sanova (~orione@debian.linuxd.net) |
| 00:17.39 | *** join/#maemo Sickki (~sickki@unaffiliated/sickki) |
| 00:18.35 | *** join/#maemo LaoLang_cool (~LaoLang_c@180.137.68.237) |
| 00:20.23 | *** join/#maemo beford (~fercho@unaffiliated/beford) |
| 00:21.48 | *** join/#maemo agi (~agi@manson.entorno-digital.com) |
| 00:26.29 | *** join/#maemo SpeedyGhost (~moon3010@cl-340.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net) |
| 00:26.30 | *** join/#maemo SpeedyGhost (~moon3010@kvirc/translator/SpeedyGhost) |
| 00:26.48 | *** join/#maemo Xjs|moonshine (moon@siddhartha.aoide.de) |
| 00:27.14 | *** join/#maemo agi (~agi@manson.entorno-digital.com) |
| 00:28.51 | *** join/#maemo net-split (~netsplit@krlh-5f713014.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 00:29.51 | *** join/#maemo z4chh (~zach@nat-2-128-194-3-128.resnet.tamu.edu) |
| 00:30.36 | *** join/#maemo whatever4ever (~macintoos@h-64-105-95-226.snvacaid.static.covad.net) |
| 00:31.06 | *** join/#maemo Milhouse (~irc_milho@Maemo/community/contributor/Milhouse) |
| 00:32.10 | whatever4ever | What's the best hardware keyboard phone? I think my n900 is done with. |
| 00:34.21 | r00t|home | get another |
| 00:35.19 | whatever4ever | Is there a list of things that only the n900 can do that no android can? |
| 00:35.27 | whatever4ever | It would be fun to make a comprehensive list . . . |
| 00:35.38 | LaoLang_cool | palm treo 650 is the best |
| 00:35.55 | LaoLang_cool | for its keyboard... |
| 00:35.56 | whatever4ever | That's barely a smartphone |
| 00:36.41 | LaoLang_cool | whatever4ever: it's the best smartphone on pim.. |
| 00:36.47 | r00t|home | you didn't ask for a smartphone |
| 00:54.29 | whatever4ever | r00t|home: not as if that would change your answer |
| 00:54.30 | *** join/#maemo robbiethe1st (~robbiethe@50.37.127.242) |
| 01:00.31 | jpinx | whatever4ever: I think you can not run a chroot on android phones with all the apps - as I do with debian ;) |
| 01:17.51 | *** join/#maemo ALoGeNo (~alogeno@47.Red-88-9-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 01:17.51 | *** join/#maemo ALoGeNo (~alogeno@unaffiliated/alogeno) |
| 01:18.02 | *** join/#maemo Smily (Smily@BSN-61-55-178.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) |
| 01:24.30 | *** part/#maemo whatever4ever (~macintoos@h-64-105-95-226.snvacaid.static.covad.net) |
| 01:35.20 | *** join/#maemo xim_ (~barrett@97-94-202-50.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 01:43.41 | *** join/#maemo ArkanoiD- (~ark@81.200.13.90) |
| 01:53.20 | *** join/#maemo jhb (~joerg@p579F654E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:08.46 | *** join/#maemo |uen| (~uen@p5DCB37DC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:14.40 | *** join/#maemo robink (~quassel@fatcat.creosotehill.org) |
| 02:14.41 | *** join/#maemo robink (~quassel@unaffilated/robink) |
| 02:42.31 | *** join/#maemo dangergrrl (~a@8.22.83.149) |
| 02:43.02 | *** join/#maemo Gi0 (~Gi0@178.128.205.127.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 02:46.19 | *** join/#maemo paroneayea (~user@fsf/member/paroneayea) |
| 03:02.35 | *** join/#maemo otep (~quassel@AP-203.167.31.157.sysads.com) |
| 03:02.36 | *** join/#maemo dangergrrl (~a@8.22.83.149) |
| 03:08.24 | barrio | i found a 53 page thread on xda-dev just getting libc going right on android |
| 03:08.27 | barrio | that wasnt too promising |
| 03:08.53 | barrio | google significantly forked vanila kernel, way more than throwing a few proprietary drivers in. then they ditched libc, and every bit of linux's userspace ever |
| 03:08.57 | barrio | replaced it with some quasi-java VM |
| 03:09.05 | *** join/#maemo args[0] (~args0]@64.79.104.103) |
| 03:09.15 | *** join/#maemo kov_ (~kov@177.19.29.62) |
| 03:09.19 | barrio | its very mucht he mindset of late 90s early 00s JavaME phones, imo |
| 03:11.11 | barrio | maybe if you can chroot and debootstrap you can just use a normal libc on their kernel, no idea |
| 03:11.27 | barrio | id never buy something so blatantly fubared in a NIMBY way like that |
| 03:11.52 | barrio | even iOS you can jailbreak and compile stuff no more difficult than you could on OSX, with saurik's apt/dpkg/repos |
| 03:12.02 | barrio | since it is just OSX with some newer UI libs for touch |
| 03:12.45 | ds3 | it is all userland |
| 03:12.46 | barrio | theres no X server, or GTK/QT libs, and compiline on OSX is harder than linux/freebsd, but if you are mainly doing daemons/screen/mutt/irssi and HTML5 or terminal UIs |
| 03:13.12 | ds3 | and iOS is irrelevant |
| 03:14.52 | barrio | irrelevant to what? |
| 03:15.05 | barrio | once i jb'd, and installed cydia, most the utils i wanted were as simple to install as N900 |
| 03:15.15 | barrio | and the hardware is available in the form of ipod touch for 1/4th the price of a N9 |
| 03:15.41 | barrio | its not how i'd spend my money, i'd go out of my way to get someting Mer-compatible |
| 03:15.45 | barrio | but it is not that bad |
| 03:16.33 | *** join/#maemo pcfe (~pcfe@a83-245-162-37.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 03:16.33 | *** join/#maemo pcfe (~pcfe@redhat/pcfe) |
| 03:25.24 | retro|cz | is away: Byl jsem tady. Příjdu zas. Polib mi prdel, Fantomas! |
| 03:31.10 | *** join/#maemo maybeHere (~cl@p5B1647FC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:39.08 | *** join/#maemo Vanadis__ (~Vanadis@178-83-10-90.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 03:39.48 | *** join/#maemo radic_ (~radic@dslb-178-002-209-078.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 03:44.36 | *** join/#maemo mavhc (~mavhc@cpc3-basf10-2-0-cust617.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 03:46.28 | *** join/#maemo hylas (~hylas@122.99.95.90.static.transact.net.au) |
| 03:46.29 | *** join/#maemo hylas (~hylas@unaffiliated/hylas) |
| 03:57.48 | *** join/#maemo swc|666 (~gecko@unaffiliated/swc666/x-4934821) |
| 04:00.55 | *** join/#maemo dockane (~dockane@dsdf-4db5cec8.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 04:22.35 | *** join/#maemo z4chh (~zach@50.30.195.16) |
| 04:35.48 | *** join/#maemo jase21 (3df6e169@gateway/web/freenode/ip.61.246.225.105) |
| 04:36.10 | jase21 | Hi guys!! |
| 04:37.14 | *** join/#maemo mitsutaka (~mitsutaka@123.116.113.179) |
| 04:37.52 | jase21 | Could you please point me to some docs on using c++ to program for Maemo (n900)? Can Qt get access to phone specific functions? Or should I download the maemo SDK? |
| 04:37.55 | *** join/#maemo hieuletrung (~hieu@222.254.184.194) |
| 04:40.37 | *** join/#maemo sat2050 (~sat2050@210.7.79.132) |
| 04:41.12 | jase21 | But maemo sdk uses GTK and C. Can I use C++ on top of it? But it doesn't seem to be the right approach. What is the preferred way? |
| 04:55.08 | *** join/#maemo dangergrrl (~a@8.22.83.149) |
| 04:59.06 | *** join/#maemo internetishard (~root@c-98-210-194-14.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:59.32 | internetishard | one of my conversations became titled "<SelfHandle>" randomly - any ideas? |
| 04:59.47 | internetishard | looks like a bug |
| 05:00.48 | *** join/#maemo kW_ (~kW@pD9F4FA71.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 05:06.12 | DocScrutinizer | yoh |
| 05:15.34 | *** join/#maemo em (~em@unaffiliated/emma) |
| 05:25.58 | *** join/#maemo hieuletrung (~hieu@222.254.184.194) |
| 05:52.00 | *** join/#maemo Roomerlol (~Roomerlol@95-25-211-75.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 06:21.27 | *** join/#maemo Suiseiseki (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) |
| 06:30.05 | *** join/#maemo swc|666_ (~gecko@65.101.151.78) |
| 06:40.13 | dangergrrl | heya dockane |
| 06:40.19 | dangergrrl | er DocScrutinizer :) |
| 06:47.45 | *** join/#maemo croppa (~stuart@CPE-120-146-137-99.static.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 07:05.08 | *** join/#maemo zk8 (~tester@dslb-188-103-039-066.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:08.59 | *** join/#maemo ag0ny (~sascha@khan.procar.de) |
| 07:13.25 | *** join/#maemo croppa (~stuart@CPE-121-216-113-22.lnse2.ken.bigpond.net.au) |
| 07:17.41 | *** join/#maemo scoobertron (~tom@93.186.148.226) |
| 07:18.54 | *** join/#maemo TNZ_ (~quassel@cha92-4-82-224-227-41.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:19.35 | *** join/#maemo jonne (~jonne@91.182.112.29) |
| 07:22.40 | *** join/#maemo mavhc (~mavhc@cpc3-basf10-2-0-cust617.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 07:31.58 | *** join/#maemo _berto_ (~berto@155.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com) |
| 07:32.45 | *** join/#maemo valdyn (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 07:34.13 | *** join/#maemo freemangordon (freemangor@85.187.38.5) |
| 07:35.04 | *** join/#maemo Muelli (~muelli@port-12713.pppoe.wtnet.de) |
| 07:39.09 | *** join/#maemo RST38h_ (~nobody@134.134.139.74) |
| 07:46.28 | RST38x | *yawn* |
| 07:46.28 | *** join/#maemo hieuletrung (~hieu@222.254.184.194) |
| 07:46.28 | *** join/#maemo swc|666 (~gecko@unaffiliated/swc666/x-4934821) |