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| 02:37.50 | plate | i thnk dsme daemon is involved |
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| 05:56.49 | DocScrutinizer | moo |
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| 06:00.45 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, that's probably the result of "fixing onjoin" |
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| 06:10.53 | merlin1991 | lol |
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| 06:35.58 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: the real lol is: [2012-01-17 22:44:38] *** ChanServ setzt Modus: +o TimRiker [2012-01-17 22:49:32] *** ChanServ setzt Modus: +o TimRiker [2012-01-17 22:53:47] *** ChanServ setzt Modus: +o TimRiker |
| 06:36.14 | DocScrutinizer | 50 times the last 10h |
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| 06:36.52 | DocScrutinizer | ~+uptime |
| 06:37.42 | DocScrutinizer | before somebody ponders "testing" though: please don't, the "problem" is not yet "fixed" |
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| 08:33.25 | MohammadAG | trumee: Really? Thought they all forgot about me :p |
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| 08:48.10 | ruskie | hmm anyone know if it's possible to use the normal camera on the n900 as a webcam? |
| 08:48.22 | ruskie | or for jingle video calls atleast |
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| 09:49.04 | Coke | Maemo's running on the N9 right? I'm trying to open a terminal, for that I need something called developer mode. I try to turn it on, it prompts me to install something, I say yes and then it says cancelled, installation interrupted, try again? and on it goes |
| 09:49.13 | Coke | I guess my short question is: how do I get a terminal? |
| 09:49.28 | Coke | the terminal is the single most important application on my phone, more important than the actual phone function. |
| 09:50.16 | Coke | developer-mode installation interrupted. |
| 09:51.25 | Coke | is there a way to get the old/proper maemo on this or make it do what the N900 did out of the box? |
| 09:55.08 | Corsac | topic |
| 09:57.04 | Coke | thanks |
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| 10:04.00 | crashanddie | so, is there any phone that could match the n950? Or the n900 for that matter, but with a fresher OS and hardware? |
| 10:04.44 | crashanddie | I still have my amsterdam n900, but it just feels sluggish |
| 10:08.01 | petteri | Coke: remember reading that someone could not install develpor mode with wifi, maybe try with 3g |
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| 10:09.04 | petteri | sorry, wrong channel |
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| 12:20.29 | [DarkGUNMAN] | Is there a version of DirectFB that can be implemented for maemo in order to run PhoneME Advanced? |
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| 12:22.42 | [DarkGUNMAN] | The maintainer of the linux arm build might be able to do an X11 version but that might never happen, so I thought I'd see if Directfb could be implemented to meet this version of PhoneMe's dependancies |
| 12:27.24 | ShadowJK | just the name DirectFB makes it sound like something that's incompatible with everything else |
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| 12:39.31 | jonwil | I am not a GPU expert but I bet a DirectFB implementation on the N900/N950/N9 would require information about the PowerVR GPU in the phones that the community does not have |
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| 12:56.07 | fizzie | Unless I misremember, DirectFB itself can run on top of SDL or X11, though maybe not well, and certainly not very acceleratedly. |
| 12:58.34 | hiemanshu | but why would anyone want to run an OS written using Java? we already have android and dalvik |
| 12:59.03 | ShadowJK | i'm not sure I'd call it java |
| 12:59.06 | ShadowJK | uh |
| 12:59.15 | ShadowJK | I mean: I'm not sure I'd call it an os |
| 13:00.18 | ShadowJK | A couple of years ago the biggest reason to want java me was to run Opera |
| 13:00.23 | ShadowJK | But now there's native port :) |
| 13:03.27 | jonwil | I seriously doubt there is anything written in JavaME that is worth running on Maemo |
| 13:03.55 | ShadowJK | The sims! |
| 13:05.00 | ShadowJK | does opera mini still exist? it'd be neat on N8x0 I'd think |
| 13:10.56 | auenf | why? |
| 13:11.12 | auenf | opera mobile has turbo mode, which was the main feature of mini? |
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| 13:31.27 | [DarkGUNMAN] | yep.. opera mini still exists. currently can only be run through microemulator on top of javaSE, hence the reason I'd like to get PhoneME working. |
| 13:32.52 | [DarkGUNMAN] | builds for linux arm are available at http://davy.preuveneers.be/phoneme |
| 13:33.56 | [DarkGUNMAN] | phoneme feature cldc appears to work but I don't know the command line to test operamini |
| 13:34.19 | [DarkGUNMAN] | phoneme feature needs directfb. contacted the maintainer to see if aything coould be done. |
| 13:34.59 | [DarkGUNMAN] | sorry that should be phoneme advancedgetting directfb to run on maemo might be a better option |
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| 13:36.34 | [DarkGUNMAN] | worth posting in TMO for ideas? |
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| 14:01.27 | Macer | so.. did sopa pass yet? |
| 14:01.28 | Macer | lol |
| 14:01.48 | Macer | nokia is going to shut down sites that say "maemo" |
| 14:02.10 | Macer | or sites that were not allowed in writing to use their logo |
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| 14:10.03 | Macer | sopa is great |
| 14:10.20 | Macer | now 99% of the internet will simply encrypt end to end |
| 14:10.51 | chem|st | Macer: that would be awesome but I doubt it |
| 14:10.57 | Macer | i don't |
| 14:11.18 | Macer | it is like dvd encryption.. it will have little or no effect because in a day people will find a way around anything they do |
| 14:11.35 | Macer | and i mean seriously.. are these producers and actors and actresses starving to death? |
| 14:11.46 | chem|st | lol nope |
| 14:12.01 | Macer | i mean.. did they have to get like.. grade b steak or something? :) |
| 14:12.13 | Macer | i am reminded of the south park episode about downloading mp3s |
| 14:12.23 | Macer | where Master P's son couldn't get the island he wanted |
| 14:12.26 | chem|st | most do not even know how much the steak from last night was... |
| 14:13.20 | Macer | but i mean... whenever they take these extreme measures it always backfires.. i said it earlier.. they are only provoking something to be released that is single click full end to end encryption |
| 14:13.45 | chem|st | its like streisand-effect |
| 14:13.50 | Macer | and the creation of a fully encrypted sub-internet |
| 14:14.04 | Macer | with its own public p2p encrypted dns system |
| 14:14.26 | Macer | they can't blame the isp since it will be wall to wall.. and they can't inspect encrypted pkts |
| 14:14.56 | chem|st | should setup a concentrator right now! |
| 14:15.14 | Macer | yeah.. better get tor going before the lamers block the tor site |
| 14:15.18 | Macer | lol |
| 14:15.46 | Macer | i honestly want to set up tor.. i used it once and it was laggy.. but probably because it goes through some pretty crappy connections |
| 14:15.59 | chem|st | same here |
| 14:16.05 | Macer | it's an awesome idea tho |
| 14:16.15 | Macer | i mean if everybody jumped on board with it .. it would work quite well |
| 14:16.23 | Macer | but the configuration can be a bit of a pain |
| 14:16.25 | chem|st | onion and tor are awesome ideas |
| 14:16.42 | Macer | yeah.. i will set it up on friday and start preparing things |
| 14:16.47 | Gh0sty | my biggest problem with them ... |
| 14:17.05 | Macer | Gh0sty: poor route selection? :) |
| 14:17.11 | chem|st | setting it up remotely and having remote access to my host is a pain... |
| 14:17.26 | Macer | setting it up at all is a pain.. from teh server side |
| 14:17.28 | Gh0sty | no ... that I cannot be held responsible for traffic comming from my network doing illegal stuff |
| 14:17.30 | Macer | if you wanted to tor ssh or whatever |
| 14:17.42 | Gh0sty | since other route their 'obscure traffic' through my node |
| 14:17.47 | Macer | Gh0sty: exactly |
| 14:17.52 | Macer | it is unenforcable |
| 14:18.00 | Macer | they are probably just mainly targeting the big targets |
| 14:18.05 | Macer | like piratebay and demonoid |
| 14:18.14 | Macer | newzbin... etc |
| 14:18.25 | Macer | all news servers are gone :) |
| 14:18.42 | chem|st | already? |
| 14:18.48 | Macer | no not yet |
| 14:18.58 | Macer | it still has to pass.. and then the cases would have to go to court |
| 14:19.16 | chem|st | we should fork as much as possible |
| 14:19.20 | Macer | so now US citizens have to pay tax dollars in an already bad economy for an overabundance of court cases |
| 14:19.44 | Macer | beceause once it opens it is going to be non-stop law suit after law suit.. like the patent crap going on |
| 14:19.50 | crashanddie | how is that different from any time before? |
| 14:19.53 | Macer | except on a much larger scale |
| 14:20.00 | crashanddie | The US has always been about stupid court cases |
| 14:20.06 | crashanddie | Even when there's no one around to pay for it |
| 14:20.11 | Macer | hahah.. yeah.. i guess that is a fair point |
| 14:20.22 | Macer | but it is just going to be out of hand |
| 14:20.27 | Macer | way worse than it already is |
| 14:20.42 | Macer | people are going to be suing for minute pictures that may or may not be on a website |
| 14:21.11 | Macer | it will take months and tons of court hearings to even determine if said picture was on the site.. then more months and hearings to figure out if they infringed.. etc |
| 14:21.16 | crashanddie | Gh0sty, simply don't be an output node |
| 14:21.51 | Macer | crashanddie: yeah... just let him be a leech lol |
| 14:22.00 | crashanddie | sorry? |
| 14:22.11 | crashanddie | Darknets aren't about leeching |
| 14:22.24 | Macer | heh. i was joking |
| 14:22.32 | Macer | is there a chrome plugin for tor? |
| 14:22.41 | crashanddie | why would you need a plugin? |
| 14:22.45 | crashanddie | Just use it as a proxy |
| 14:22.57 | Macer | it has been a long time since i have used it |
| 14:23.00 | Veggen | well, neither are filesharing, necessarily. Tons of torrents are distributed with perfectly legal downloadable material. |
| 14:23.29 | Macer | Veggen: and torrent pkts are encrypted already anyways |
| 14:24.03 | Macer | crashanddie: can you set the bandwidth limit if you are a node? |
| 14:24.26 | Macer | it would be nice if it could kind of work p2p where it threads data through multiple nodes and reconstructs it |
| 14:24.46 | Macer | so you don't feel like you are proxied through some ethopian's 56K modem |
| 14:25.16 | crashanddie | Macer, of course |
| 14:25.34 | crashanddie | Macer, I run 3 i2p nodes, 2 of those are permanent routes only |
| 14:26.09 | crashanddie | meaning, they don't consume any data, they just provide anonymity for others |
| 14:28.09 | MohammadAG | Good news, I found my lost N900 |
| 14:28.12 | MohammadAG | Bad news, it was what made the car seat slide so easily |
| 14:28.33 | Macer | lol! |
| 14:28.41 | Macer | those nokia phone tracks were well built :) |
| 14:28.53 | Macer | like silk |
| 14:28.56 | MohammadAG | the battery cover is a wreck |
| 14:29.03 | Macer | is that all? |
| 14:29.08 | MohammadAG | the rest is intact |
| 14:29.15 | MohammadAG | yep, it was lying on the screen |
| 14:29.16 | Macer | you have a spare? |
| 14:29.25 | MohammadAG | the DDP one |
| 14:29.31 | Macer | ouch |
| 14:29.43 | Macer | i was about to say. i have a spare battery cover if you need one but it is an original one |
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| 14:30.35 | MohammadAG | this is the second battery cover :P |
| 14:30.42 | Macer | lol |
| 14:30.51 | Macer | well quit breaking them :) |
| 14:31.04 | Macer | at least the screen didn't get gouged |
| 14:32.18 | chem|st | http://www.streamcomputing.eu/blog/2011-06-22/opencl-vs-cuda-misconceptions/ |
| 14:32.34 | MohammadAG | yeah, if it was top-up the screen would've been damaged totally |
| 14:32.41 | MohammadAG | this is a car seat that's been slid at least 20 times |
| 14:32.59 | MohammadAG | actually the battery cover isn't that bad either |
| 14:33.15 | MohammadAG | the kickstand/camera chrome is what's f'd |
| 14:34.35 | MohammadAG | the slider mech is tight as hell |
| 14:34.44 | MohammadAG | feels good |
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| 14:44.32 | MohammadAG | hmm, I see about 3 pages of the CSSU thread are about me... |
| 14:45.44 | andre__ | MohammadAG: and your conclusion after reading that is...? |
| 14:46.48 | MohammadAG | andre__, I went MIA when I shouldn't have |
| 14:47.40 | andre__ | MohammadAG, question is how to avoid the same problems if that happens again. e.g. sharing responsibility. |
| 14:48.03 | MohammadAG | andre__, it won't happen again |
| 14:48.03 | andre__ | ...and I ask you for the sake of the CSSU project to really consider that. |
| 14:48.13 | MohammadAG | but yes, I'll have a backup option |
| 14:49.02 | andre__ | MohammadAG, I understand how you mean "it won't happen again", but it's really not you deciding when a bus hits you ;-) |
| 14:49.53 | andre__ | MohammadAG: there's enough external reasons. I remember a project dying because the maintainer had to take (long time) care of sick family members |
| 14:50.36 | andre__ | so thanks for planning to share the responsibility. and crossing fingers that you'll actually do it soon. |
| 14:54.17 | [DarkGUNMAN] | quick question, can anyone enable directfb for maemo in order to try phoneme advanced? |
| 14:54.37 | [DarkGUNMAN] | error message i get when trying cldc: |
| 14:55.26 | [DarkGUNMAN] | bin/cvm: error while loading shared libraries: libdirectfb-1.2.so.9: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 15:00.40 | [DarkGUNMAN] | thought i'd ask here first incase there was anything worth adding to an existing thread or staring one new on tmo |
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| 15:03.16 | fredrin | ruskie, yes |
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| 17:25.18 | damagedspline | hi, a question regarding the Extras-Assistant... i uploaded waze sources, but nothing happens. it looks its been building it since December. http://maemo.org/packages/view/waze/ |
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| 17:27.33 | merlin1991 | damagedspline: when did you upload? |
| 17:27.58 | merlin1991 | also did you upload version 0.0.4? |
| 17:28.43 | merlin1991 | because that build failed on the 20.12.2011 (see https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/waze_0.0.4/armel.build.log.FAILED.txt ) |
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| 17:41.44 | damagedspline | merlin1991: i uploaded v0.0.4 last month. i didnt work so i let it be |
| 17:41.59 | damagedspline | now i retried with the new version |
| 17:42.32 | damagedspline | anyway, now its v0.0.5 |
| 17:43.25 | damagedspline | if u look at the link i sent before u see that the build from last month is still running |
| 17:43.46 | damagedspline | it might be the reason why it wont accept the new sources |
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| 17:59.01 | MohammadAG | gnome shell ftw |
| 17:59.13 | MohammadAG | well, compared with unity anyway |
| 17:59.15 | MohammadAG | damagedspline, ohai |
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| 18:11.29 | damagedspline | hi MAG |
| 18:12.27 | damagedspline | i'm trying to deal with the extras-assistant... |
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| 18:15.03 | MohammadAG | damagedspline, uploaded 0.0.5? |
| 18:15.13 | RST38h | Moo,MOhammad |
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| 18:15.36 | MohammadAG | it says build failed |
| 18:15.36 | MohammadAG | moo RST38h |
| 18:16.30 | damagedspline | v0.0.4 is still building since december |
| 18:17.06 | damagedspline | mag, see the last status @ http://maemo.org/packages/view/waze/ |
| 18:17.55 | damagedspline | i tried uploading the new sources for v0.0.5 but it wouldnt let me |
| 18:18.57 | damagedspline | upload completed succesfuly, but adding to queue button does not add to queue |
| 18:19.07 | damagedspline | confusing :) |
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| 18:22.37 | MohammadAG | use dput :p |
| 18:22.49 | MohammadAG | It says building then build failed |
| 18:22.54 | MohammadAG | it can't be stuck that long |
| 18:24.28 | damagedspline | MohammadAG, who know, maybe i broke record for longest maemo build ever :) |
| 18:24.45 | MohammadAG | it says build failed right before building |
| 18:24.47 | MohammadAG | same minute |
| 18:24.54 | MohammadAG | submit 0.0.5 again and wait |
| 18:25.55 | damagedspline | MohammadAG, the logs u sent were of v0.0.4 from last month... |
| 18:26.05 | damagedspline | i'll try upload agian |
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| 18:32.34 | damagedspline | MohammadAG, files moved to autobuilder queue yet they are no there... |
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| 18:33.34 | damagedspline | u can verify it by looking at the cauldron threads, no waze build in january |
| 18:34.37 | damagedspline | MohammadAG, anyhow, my time is up for today.... ttl |
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| 18:47.00 | MohammadAG | X-Fade, can you check that for him ^? |
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| 19:30.58 | crashanddie | sup MohammadAG |
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| 19:31.26 | Wizzup | Is maemo participating in SOPA stuff or is it just down? |
| 19:31.30 | Wizzup | (maemo.org) |
| 19:31.40 | MohammadAG | nothing much crashanddie, just uni I guess :/ |
| 19:31.58 | mgedmin | does it return 503 or something else? |
| 19:32.21 | crashanddie | Wizzup, not down here |
| 19:32.29 | crashanddie | MohammadAG, what about all the projects? |
| 19:32.33 | crashanddie | How are those coming along? |
| 19:32.51 | Wizzup | crashanddie: blank page |
| 19:33.00 | Wizzup | http://maemo.org |
| 19:33.18 | crashanddie | Wizzup, well, works from here :) maybe SOPA was a bit more effective than planned? |
| 19:33.21 | MohammadAG | crashanddie, not that good sadly |
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| 19:33.28 | MohammadAG | apparently time is a bit scarce when you have uni |
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| 19:33.47 | MohammadAG | get me a job and I'll take a break after this year's uni |
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| 19:35.01 | crashanddie | well |
| 19:35.09 | crashanddie | I might be starting my own company next year |
| 19:35.33 | MohammadAG | VoIP? |
| 19:35.47 | crashanddie | Yes and no |
| 19:35.52 | crashanddie | I'm writing an application server |
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| 19:36.33 | crashanddie | The main binary is extremely small, maybe 300 or 400kB |
| 19:36.43 | crashanddie | but it loads modules, each module provides features |
| 19:37.05 | MohammadAG | sounds interesting |
| 19:37.08 | crashanddie | one provides basic network, another uses that one to provide TCP, then another one uses that to provide HTTP |
| 19:37.22 | crashanddie | I'm able to have multiple module versions loaded into memory at the same time |
| 19:37.29 | crashanddie | and thus, update the binaries while the app is running |
| 19:38.11 | crashanddie | Full Boost support, C++0x-enabled, automake, autoconf, doxygen and fully UML-documented. |
| 19:38.29 | MohammadAG | wait, you're done with this? |
| 19:38.30 | crashanddie | Modules can be written either in C++ or Python, both languages have an API available |
| 19:38.40 | crashanddie | Yeah, not far from it. |
| 19:38.51 | crashanddie | Module management is done, I'm just writing modules |
| 19:39.02 | crashanddie | Am able to handle voip calls, and have a web interface for configuration |
| 19:39.56 | crashanddie | Using loads of design patterns, polymorphism is king, really good fun stuff. |
| 19:40.25 | crashanddie | Oh, and also unit testing and everything that goes with it |
| 19:40.30 | crashanddie | so just make -j4 check |
| 19:40.39 | crashanddie | and I get a report to tell me what works and what doesn't. |
| 19:41.01 | crashanddie | I've applied test-driven development, meaning I write the unit test before the class :P |
| 19:41.36 | crashanddie | which is quite the change from my extreme-developer habits |
| 19:42.09 | crashanddie | So I'm just going to see how this goes, and I might sprout a company to sell support for it |
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| 19:43.36 | crashanddie | Current list of features: module validation: A new module that hasn't been validated gets spawned into a new process, and gets tested for robustness. All kinds of shit is thrown at all the methods and functions, and we try to make it crash |
| 19:44.28 | crashanddie | If it holds up, it's loaded into whatever context it needs to be loaded: A module can either have its own thread, its own process, or simply time share the main binary's thread. |
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| 19:45.34 | crashanddie | IPC is implemented through zeromq, which means that it supports clustering over different servers or VMs |
| 19:45.53 | crashanddie | Roadmap includes EC2 support, so an instance can load up its own EC2 VMs when required |
| 19:46.39 | crashanddie | internal communications is handled over google's protocol buffers |
| 19:47.45 | crashanddie | persistence can be handled either through mysql or mongodb |
| 19:47.53 | crashanddie | etc |
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| 19:48.10 | crashanddie | Basically, I'm writing a contender to J2EE. |
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| 19:49.55 | crashanddie | MohammadAG, so yeah, if it takes off, you definitely get to be my office bitch :P |
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| 19:51.17 | MohammadAG | crashanddie, that sounds awesome :D |
| 19:51.30 | MohammadAG | the part before the last sentence, I'm not sure if that's good :P |
| 19:51.46 | crashanddie | No no, I have my quote. |
| 19:51.47 | crashanddie | [20:49:29] <crashanddie> MohammadAG, so yeah, if it takes off, you definitely get to be my office bitch :P |
| 19:51.47 | crashanddie | [20:50:51] <MohammadAG> crashanddie, that sounds awesome :D |
| 19:51.50 | crashanddie | Thank you very much. |
| 19:52.20 | crashanddie | ponders vandalising the /topic |
| 19:53.38 | MohammadAG | lmfao |
| 19:55.59 | crashanddie | anyway |
| 19:56.01 | crashanddie | going home |
| 19:56.11 | crashanddie | I'll send you a link when I release publicly, MohammadAG |
| 19:56.17 | MohammadAG | thanks for the kind(?) words crashanddie :P |
| 19:56.28 | crashanddie | Probably some time this summer will be my first public release |
| 19:56.30 | MohammadAG | updates his facebook details to Office bitch at crashanddie's |
| 19:56.49 | crashanddie | I doubt that'll be the name of the company |
| 19:57.01 | crashanddie | But I'll give you business cards with that name on it :P |
| 19:57.02 | MohammadAG | crashanddie's fries rhymes |
| 19:57.11 | MohammadAG | idk why I thought of that |
| 19:57.19 | crashanddie | probably my belgian side showing |
| 19:57.23 | crashanddie | (fries, and all) |
| 19:57.29 | MohammadAG | lol |
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| 20:00.08 | DocScrutinizer | feels hungry now |
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| 20:07.53 | crashanddie | anyway |
| 20:07.56 | crashanddie | leaving the office |
| 20:07.58 | crashanddie | later all |
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| 20:23.43 | jonne | so my phone seems stuck on applying the new cssu |
| 20:23.55 | jonne | can't even turn it off |
| 20:24.13 | jonne | what should i do? |
| 20:24.44 | jonne | strangely the screen turns off and on fine when i open the keyboard or use the switch on the side |
| 20:24.47 | mgedmin | you ought to be able to turn it off by holding down power for a long time, but if you do that (or pull the battery) in the middle of an update, I'd be afraid it won't boot |
| 20:25.06 | jonne | which it usually doesn't do quite as well under load |
| 20:25.08 | mgedmin | nevers installed the cssu in fear something might break... |
| 20:25.34 | jonne | is there a way to get to tty1 without using the terminal application? |
| 20:26.28 | mgedmin | you can't get to tty1 even with the terminal app |
| 20:26.35 | mgedmin | do you have openssh on it? is it online? |
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| 20:26.44 | jonne | no, can't even ping it |
| 20:27.03 | jonne | screen says it's connected, but it's frozen |
| 20:27.24 | mgedmin | well, pinging my n900 was never exactly reliable... |
| 20:27.28 | jonne | the screen is frozen, but it seems like it should still react to keyboard commands |
| 20:27.30 | mgedmin | due to wifi power savings modes or whatever |
| 20:27.43 | mgedmin | wish I had any familiarity with the CSSU and could help you |
| 20:27.50 | jonne | ssh is pretty reliable when it's working |
| 20:27.55 | mgedmin | give it some more time just in case, then pull the battery? |
| 20:28.05 | mgedmin | lucky you with your good access point :) |
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| 20:28.25 | jonne | tomato firmware, baby :p |
| 20:28.33 | jonne | i'll try and hold the power button for like 30 seconds, then pull battery and hope for the best |
| 20:29.21 | mgedmin | worst case, you can always reflash |
| 20:29.53 | mgedmin | has openwrt backfire on his ap/router, his n9 still ignores the first 20 or so pings -- seems to be checking for ARP requests infrequently? |
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| 20:31.34 | jonne | how is the n9, btw? I want it so bad but i'm waiting for the white one to come out here |
| 20:32.08 | jonne | screen seems to have changed a bit, maybe i should let it sit for a while before pulling the battery |
| 20:38.03 | ruskie | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uub0z8wJfhU |
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| 20:41.14 | mgedmin | the n9 is the best thing ever created on this Earth |
| 20:41.20 | mgedmin | (it has its own problems, of course) |
| 20:45.24 | frals | jonne: where is "here"? afaiu white is not coming to all regions n9 is released in |
| 20:45.47 | frals | mgedmin: im totally quoting you on that |
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| 20:45.58 | mgedmin | feel free |
| 20:47.31 | mgedmin | very rarely a piece of hardware evokes spontaneous ♥ feelings in me |
| 20:48.46 | RST38h | What are x?Y feelings? |
| 20:49.26 | frals | RST38h: heart symbol |
| 20:49.31 | RST38h | ah |
| 20:49.47 | RST38h | sees funny stuff in IRCII |
| 20:50.15 | RST38h | mgedmin: You should try Lumia 800! Makes for a nice inversion of the heart symbol. |
| 20:51.07 | mgedmin | RST38h, set up UTF-8, come live with us in the 21st century |
| 20:51.52 | mgedmin | Nokia sent me an email offering a developer Lumia 800. I couldn't come up with any use for it, so I ignored it. |
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| 20:53.32 | jonne | frals : Belgium |
| 20:54.00 | jonne | I asked the Nokia twitter account for Belgium if they knew when/if it ever comes out here, and they didn't know |
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| 20:54.45 | jonne | if it doesn't come out in like a month or 2 i'll just get the black one then, hopefully the price will have dropped a bit too |
| 20:55.04 | jonne | pulls out the battery |
| 20:55.07 | frals | jonne: Hmm, is the Lumia being advertised there? |
| 20:55.39 | jonne | i'm pretty successful at avoiding ads in general, I don't know, tbh |
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| 20:55.51 | jonne | they're doing a launch event in a few days |
| 20:56.02 | Pali | ping lxp1 |
| 20:56.06 | jonne | but i don't want WP7, I'd rather get android |
| 20:56.21 | jonne | or maybe samsung's new bada/tizen thing |
| 20:56.44 | frals | just asking because it might affect wether or not the white n9 would be sold |
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| 20:57.44 | jonne | yeah, i'm waiting a few months either way, i'm low on cash right now after traveling |
| 20:58.13 | jonne | €600 ain't nothing |
| 20:58.42 | Corsac | the white n9 is supposed to arrive for christmas, isn't it? |
| 20:59.01 | jonne | i know it's been out in finland for a while |
| 20:59.09 | jonne | don't know about anywhere else |
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| 20:59.26 | jonne | couldn't find a decent overview anywhere |
| 20:59.35 | jonne | phone seems to boot ok |
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| 21:00.23 | RST38h | CSSU! |
| 21:00.47 | jonne | it hung my phone while updating, RST38h be careful |
| 21:00.55 | jonne | still finding out if anything broke |
| 21:01.02 | RST38h | mgedmin: I accepted. Now waiting for someone to jailbreak it. |
| 21:01.23 | RST38h | mgedmin: It is pretty dismal, even compared to supposedly "dead" Harmattan |
| 21:01.44 | RST38h | gconftool-2: I've been haxored to use xml::/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults as the config source. |
| 21:01.46 | RST38h | hmmmm |
| 21:02.10 | mgedmin | RST38h, s/dead/murdered/ |
| 21:02.26 | RST38h | mgedmin: still dead, at the end =( |
| 21:02.52 | RST38h | mgedmin: It is especially cute how Harmattan Ovi has more useful apps than WP7 app store |
| 21:02.54 | mgedmin | although releases are still coming out (PR1.1, the upcoming PR1.2)... zombie? |
| 21:03.10 | mgedmin | Tizen has more market share than WP7, thanks to the Bada merger ;) |
| 21:03.16 | RST38h | more like guerilla warfare from within Nokia, from the looks of it |
| 21:03.29 | merlin1991 | RST38h: cssu what? |
| 21:03.34 | RST38h | I mean, some bright light at marketing came up with the "Lumia" name... |
| 21:03.35 | jonne | cssu update seems to have been successful, despite it hanging in the middle of the process |
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| 22:28.22 | DocScrutinizer | hey, maemo.org big void?? |
| 22:30.22 | DocScrutinizer | could somebody see if there's *anything on http://maemo.org ? |
| 22:30.36 | merlin1991 | big void indeed |
| 22:30.39 | Pali | white screen |
| 22:30.45 | merlin1991 | tmo is up though |
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| 22:30.58 | DocScrutinizer | pff, tmo is another box |
| 22:31.04 | DocScrutinizer | another IP |
| 22:31.09 | DocScrutinizer | another ifra |
| 22:31.15 | DocScrutinizer | infra even |
| 22:31.27 | merlin1991 | but it's nearly seamless integrated ;) |
| 22:31.37 | DocScrutinizer | dunno about wiki.maemo.org, which seems ok'ish |
| 22:31.52 | merlin1991 | wiki is up too |
| 22:32.11 | merlin1991 | starts ragewar about maemo.org downtime |
| 22:32.38 | DocScrutinizer | YAWNS |
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| 22:35.42 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiVFfOOm_GI |
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| 22:43.24 | DocScrutinizer | and for more loonatic audience: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xTynHGqxcQ&feature=related |
| 22:48.46 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYgf0HL_5mQ&feature=related and good night :-D |
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| 23:00.16 | DocScrutinizer | a last one (my generation's version) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZlir45ZAyc |
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