| 00:00.14 | Estel_ | (version uploaded today is 7.1maemo5, but mounting volumes is borked. maemo6 with this issue corrected is on it's way, but GUI issue confirmation/deny can be done with any 7.1 version) |
| 00:10.47 | plate | qthere are multiple scrobblr/last.fm plugins . which to use |
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| 01:00.25 | Estel_ | fixed version of truecrypt has been uploaded to -devel and is already available |
| 01:00.44 | Estel_ | now everything should work, so I strongly encourage testers ;) |
| 01:01.35 | Estel_ | on the other hand, little question. In case of my device, using 'unset GTK2_RC_FILES' result in something in-between hildon theme, and non-hildonized one |
| 01:01.45 | Estel_ | I'm using latest CSSU-t, by the way |
| 01:03.00 | Estel_ | so - with unset (...), any program run afterwards does have smaller font etc, but unlike other people device, it still have 'dark' background (instead of white/gray), and everything is bigger than it should (yet, not as big as using normal variables) |
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| 01:03.59 | Estel_ | for example, latest TrueCrypt 7.1 works for other people flawlessly (wrapper script do unset for users, or they would be unable to use buttons), but in my case, ikt's working differently |
| 01:05.26 | Estel_ | using truecrypt as example - main window is just fitting into screen, but dialog to create new encrypted volume lacks buttons (they're printed outside screen). Fzor other people, it works ok - everything is smaller, and resembly theme foun in desktop PCs (cause wrapper execute unset GTK2_RC_FILES before executing actual truecrypt) |
| 01:05.30 | Estel_ | any ideas? |
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| 02:29.27 | Pali | ping merlin1991 |
| 02:29.33 | merlin1991 | pong Pali |
| 02:29.38 | Pali | merlin1991, see http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1147311&postcount=111 |
| 02:30.32 | merlin1991 | at moment I have no git ready but I'll look into it |
| 02:30.53 | merlin1991 | that's why I prefer gitorious, you always have a website to access the repo too ;) |
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| 03:07.24 | Pali | merlin1991, code is also here: https://maemo.gitorious.org/~pali/maemo-af/pali-ke-recv |
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| 03:09.04 | Pali | merlin1991, this fix can be in CSSU |
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| 07:24.38 | Estel_ | ~truecrypt |
| 07:24.38 | infobot | well, truecrypt is available on Maemo (fremantle) with GUI, and full support for XTS via kernel-crypto module. See: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81435 |
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| 12:15.21 | fredddd | Robot101, I am normally here all day until late evening time (22:00 GMT) to help test. |
| 12:25.37 | freemangordon | Pali, did you rebuild KP with latest patches? |
| 12:26.18 | freemangordon | and BTW what is the problem with u-boot? |
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| 12:27.32 | Pali | freemangordon: build not yet |
| 12:27.43 | Pali | I start compiling now |
| 12:28.02 | Pali | u-boot draining battery |
| 12:28.13 | freemangordon | aah, yeah, I remember |
| 12:28.23 | freemangordon | i will try to fix it |
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| 12:28.42 | Pali | ok, try |
| 12:28.56 | freemangordon | BTW is there a procedure to follow (i.e. how to try it?) |
| 12:29.23 | Pali | some info is here: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/u-boot.txt |
| 12:29.24 | freemangordon | where is source code, etc |
| 12:29.36 | freemangordon | 10x |
| 12:29.40 | Robot101 | fredddd: fledermaus had some more questions for you, not sure what |
| 12:29.48 | Pali | source code is on https://gitorious.org/u-boot-shr/u-boot branch pali |
| 12:30.24 | freemangordon | and I should clone that? |
| 12:31.22 | freemangordon | Pali, do you know which is the last commit that does not drain battery? |
| 12:31.55 | Pali | no idead, because I must rebased patches and mix all rx51 patches to one commit |
| 12:32.07 | freemangordon | ok |
| 12:32.15 | Pali | so now is rx51 support in one commit, so it is hard... |
| 12:32.39 | freemangordon | ok, will try to find the bugger |
| 12:32.41 | Pali | also problem could be in u-boot itself not in rx51 |
| 12:32.59 | Pali | try play with twl regulator code in rx51.c |
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| 12:33.10 | freemangordon | ok |
| 12:33.25 | Pali | twl4030 regulator code in rx51.c is needed for eMMC access |
| 12:34.11 | Pali | when is disabled sometime eMMC card looks like is unplugged |
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| 12:34.29 | freemangordon | and still drainage? |
| 12:34.40 | Pali | sometimes |
| 12:34.46 | freemangordon | hmm |
| 12:35.03 | Pali | I do not understand, but I think that NOLO doing someting bad |
| 12:36.16 | Pali | you can try restart NOLO (with flasher), restart n900 from u-boot and restart n900 before init (from bootmenu) and restarting when hildon-desktop is started |
| 12:36.24 | freemangordon | well, in older versions there was no battery drain AFAIK, so I don't think it is NOLO |
| 12:36.41 | Pali | in all these situations is eMMC sometimes not accesable... |
| 12:37.02 | Pali | but with twl4030 regulator code working fine (at least on my n900) |
| 12:37.39 | freemangordon | why is cloning so slow? dman |
| 12:37.39 | Pali | old u-boot does not have relocation support in arm code and also no twl regulator support (so eMMC not working always) |
| 12:37.59 | freemangordon | does it share some code with kernel? |
| 12:38.00 | Pali | u-boot is big project |
| 12:38.07 | Pali | I think no |
| 12:39.41 | fredddd | Robot101, will he join later on? |
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| 12:58.02 | freemangordon | Pali, why are all those 3 voltages enabled? esp VAUX3, AIUI this is camera VDIG? |
| 12:58.25 | Pali | because eMMC |
| 12:58.34 | freemangordon | but why 3? |
| 12:58.39 | Pali | no idea |
| 12:58.48 | freemangordon | ahaa, who is the author? |
| 12:58.49 | Pali | when I disabled some of them |
| 12:58.58 | freemangordon | ? |
| 12:59.00 | Pali | sometimes eMMC not working... |
| 12:59.04 | freemangordon | ok |
| 12:59.40 | Pali | I was added all 3 to code |
| 13:00.14 | freemangordon | I find those by trial/error? |
| 13:00.23 | freemangordon | You* |
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| 13:01.41 | Pali | I enabled all, then I got working eMMC. Then I tried to start disabling it and eMMC not working... |
| 13:02.25 | freemangordon | ok |
| 13:02.30 | Pali | look also in power twl4030 code |
| 13:02.40 | Pali | it is in drivers subdir (I think) |
| 13:02.43 | freemangordon | I will |
| 13:03.20 | Pali | I was also plyaing here with voltages, before I got eMMC |
| 13:05.00 | Pali | maybe something interesting is in rx51.h |
| 13:05.37 | Pali | this code in rx51.h was not touched (it comes from first ali's rx51 port) |
| 13:05.49 | freemangordon | well, I look at it, but AIUI, there is only gpio mapping |
| 13:08.19 | freemangordon | Pali, one more question. If those voltages are not enabled is there a drain? |
| 13:08.46 | freemangordon | Or you don't know because you cannot boot |
| 13:09.03 | Pali | I do not know now, I think that sometimes I saw battery draining and sometimes not |
| 13:09.19 | freemangordon | anything from powertop? |
| 13:09.43 | Pali | booting is always possible with attached kernel to end of u-boot (combinated image) |
| 13:09.53 | Pali | I do not know powertop |
| 13:10.08 | Pali | I only monitor bq27200.sh script |
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| 13:17.55 | Pali | freemangordon, kernel is compiled, deb packages on standard place |
| 13:18.23 | freemangordon | thanks, maybe you should announce it on TMO :) |
| 13:18.37 | freemangordon | Pali, which image shall I flash for u-boot |
| 13:18.44 | freemangordon | uImage or zImage |
| 13:19.03 | Pali | uImage |
| 13:19.10 | freemangordon | hmm, does not boot :D |
| 13:19.26 | freemangordon | it is kernel, ain't? |
| 13:19.28 | Pali | do not forget to create combinated.bin |
| 13:19.42 | freemangordon | i followed your instructions |
| 13:19.56 | freemangordon | HW rev 2204 |
| 13:20.00 | freemangordon | problem? |
| 13:20.20 | Pali | run ./u-boot-combinated-builder.py |
| 13:20.28 | Pali | it will generate combined.bin |
| 13:20.29 | freemangordon | i've done that |
| 13:20.32 | Pali | and boot combined.bin |
| 13:20.33 | freemangordon | ahaa |
| 13:20.35 | freemangordon | ok |
| 13:20.50 | freemangordon | boot or flash? |
| 13:21.27 | Pali | you can also boot: flasher -k combined.bin -l -b |
| 13:21.48 | Pali | it does not flash image to nand |
| 13:21.53 | freemangordon | yeah i know |
| 13:22.20 | Pali | also you can flash it, but make sure you have battery or external charger |
| 13:22.38 | Pali | without working kernel or rootfs it is not possible to charge battery |
| 13:22.42 | freemangordon | why? |
| 13:23.04 | Pali | becuase only BME can charge it |
| 13:23.27 | Pali | and if you have less then x% NOLO will not enter to flash mode |
| 13:23.35 | freemangordon | hmm, it boots then shutsdown |
| 13:23.46 | ShadowJK | The hardware will only charge itself until there is enough to start system |
| 13:24.02 | ShadowJK | (which is less than what nolo demands for flashing) |
| 13:25.53 | freemangordon | seems my battery is flat :D |
| 13:30.12 | Pali | what did you do with battery? |
| 13:30.30 | freemangordon | nothing, it is my second device |
| 13:30.56 | freemangordon | "development" one. And it was not charged |
| 13:31.20 | Pali | ah, ok |
| 13:31.59 | Pali | I have external nokia charger for these u-boot situations... |
| 13:32.55 | freemangordon | me too, it booted ok with charger attached. but then hit SGX recovery bug :D |
| 13:34.31 | Pali | ShadowJK, is there any info about image for omap (coldflashing)? info about 2nd x-loader image |
| 13:35.06 | ShadowJK | I don't know |
| 13:35.09 | Pali | I see that coldflasing is possible if battery is too low |
| 13:35.37 | Pali | but then NOLO not allow to start normal flashing... (but coldflashing is possible) |
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| 13:40.14 | jacekowski | coldflashing is done by boot rom |
| 13:40.28 | freemangordon | (nod) |
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| 13:44.38 | Pali | jacekowski, I know, but is there any info how to create image which can omap bootrom load & boot? |
| 13:44.58 | jacekowski | yes |
| 13:45.01 | Pali | what is format of that image? |
| 13:45.09 | jacekowski | it's not going to work |
| 13:45.13 | jacekowski | it has to be signed by nokia |
| 13:45.24 | jacekowski | format of it is public tools to sign it are public |
| 13:45.29 | jacekowski | nokia keys are not |
| 13:45.43 | freemangordon | hmm, nolo is not signed AFAIK |
| 13:45.51 | Pali | where is that public tools? I was not able to find anything |
| 13:45.57 | jacekowski | 1st stage bootloader is signed |
| 13:46.00 | jacekowski | nolo-xldr |
| 13:46.04 | freemangordon | ok |
| 13:46.06 | jacekowski | nolo-scnd isn't |
| 13:46.10 | jacekowski | and that can be replaced |
| 13:46.12 | freemangordon | agree |
| 13:46.14 | jacekowski | and that's just raw binary |
| 13:46.15 | Pali | weeks ago I worte open source cold flasher program (source code on TMO) |
| 13:46.30 | Pali | but in omap docs there was nothinh about that format |
| 13:46.37 | jacekowski | all you need is magic value at offsets 0x4-0x8 |
| 13:46.44 | jacekowski | or something like that |
| 13:46.53 | jacekowski | you need that NoloSCND in it |
| 13:46.56 | jacekowski | or whatever it was |
| 13:47.05 | jacekowski | and xloader will load it |
| 13:47.38 | Pali | NOLO image has someting like header (address where to load, NoloSCND sign, and size of image) |
| 13:47.54 | Pali | but I'd like to know what is format of x-loader image, not nolo |
| 13:48.07 | jacekowski | you need to look for HS docs |
| 13:48.26 | freemangordon | There was some info on TI forum, can't recall where |
| 13:48.32 | jacekowski | http://maemo.jacekowski.org/tools/CSST_SDP3430_v2_5_Binary_Release.zip |
| 13:48.34 | jacekowski | that's signing tool |
| 13:48.52 | jacekowski | can't remember where i found it |
| 13:49.07 | Pali | ok, thanks |
| 13:49.39 | jacekowski | it's called MLO by TI |
| 13:49.43 | jacekowski | http://omappedia.org/wiki/Bootloader_Project |
| 13:49.50 | Pali | if you find some docs (eg fomat), let me know |
| 13:50.02 | jacekowski | but unless you have nokia keys that tool is useless |
| 13:50.13 | SpeedEvil | Unless you replace the SoC |
| 13:50.32 | SpeedEvil | In which case, you can upgrade speed and RAM too |
| 13:50.46 | SpeedEvil | (though practiclaly, that's not happening |
| 13:51.18 | jacekowski | i don't remember exactly |
| 13:51.24 | freemangordon | jacekowski, is it RSA or 3DES? |
| 13:51.31 | Pali | is nokia key strong? |
| 13:51.36 | freemangordon | or single DES? |
| 13:51.58 | jacekowski | 256bit AES from what i remember |
| 13:52.24 | jacekowski | same shit as in milestone |
| 13:52.31 | jacekowski | and there was a lot people trying to crack that |
| 13:52.42 | jacekowski | and they had everything locked |
| 13:52.44 | jacekowski | not just xloader |
| 13:53.39 | jacekowski | http://and-developers.com/partitions:isw |
| 13:57.35 | freemangordon | Pali, according to powertop, MPU is never powered down(100% ON), I don't know how that could be related to emmc voltage. Initial conclusion is that the problem with battery drain is not in rx51.c |
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| 14:01.06 | kerio | i want fremantle on a galaxy nexus :( |
| 14:01.26 | kerio | i don't want to lose maemo, but the n900 is seriously old |
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| 14:07.57 | kevinB | Hello I bricked my Nç and has only OS X around |
| 14:08.00 | kevinB | N9 |
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| 14:08.27 | kevinB | so is it possible and how can I mount N9's partition while it s powered-off |
| 14:08.35 | Sicelo | kevinB: /join #N9 |
| 14:09.32 | Pali | freemangordon, problem also can be in uboot code... |
| 14:10.08 | ShadowJK | freemangordon; charger connected?* |
| 14:17.57 | freemangordon | ShadowJK, does not matter, i've repeated tests with both connected and disconnected charger |
| 14:18.57 | freemangordon | with charger connected there is huge activity on IRQ 56 |
| 14:19.03 | freemangordon | whoever uses it |
| 14:23.05 | freemangordon | Pali, there is missing line in boot log compared to non-uboot-boot, "Disabling unused clock "sys_clkout1"". Any clue? |
| 14:23.45 | Pali | freemangordon, no idea |
| 14:23.52 | freemangordon | ok |
| 14:23.59 | Pali | I do not know it |
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| 14:28.58 | kakashi__ | has anybody applied speedpatch? |
| 14:29.13 | kakashi__ | when I try ap-get install speedpatch - i can't get it to work |
| 14:29.20 | kakashi__ | seeems like I am missing the sources |
| 14:29.25 | kakashi__ | any pointers, guys? |
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| 14:30.18 | badcloud_ | anyone got 1.2.0 version of qmltube to work? |
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| 14:44.41 | Pali | freemangordon, In rx51.h is line "MUX_VAL(CP(SYS_CLKOUT1),(IEN | PTD | DIS | M0))" |
| 14:45.14 | Pali | it could be someting with that message in boot log |
| 14:45.25 | freemangordon | yeah, still fighting to understand what is that suppoed to mean |
| 14:45.35 | freemangordon | supposed* |
| 14:48.03 | freemangordon | Pali, is there anyone we can ask for help on that? |
| 14:48.21 | Pali | maybe on u-boot mailinglist |
| 14:51.40 | luke-jr | badcloud_: you want Gentoo? |
| 14:52.14 | luke-jr | badcloud_: have you ever installed Gentoo on a normal PC? |
| 14:52.19 | luke-jr | if not, I suggest doing that in a VM first |
| 14:53.39 | badcloud_ | hey luke-jr |
| 14:53.56 | badcloud_ | no, haven't used gentoo before |
| 14:54.29 | luke-jr | yeah, set it up in a VM first ;) |
| 14:57.13 | badcloud_ | thanks |
| 15:02.05 | freemangordon | Pali, changing the above to MUX_VAL(CP(SYS_CLKOUT1),(IEN | PTU | EN | M4)) made missing dmesg line to appear, but CPU as still 100% ON and device is slow as hell. Who is the author of this rx51.h? |
| 15:02.35 | Pali | freemangordon, author is ali |
| 15:02.58 | freemangordon | where i can find him? |
| 15:03.12 | Pali | and he wrote me, that he taken rx51.h from beagle.h |
| 15:03.25 | freemangordon | yeah, I see |
| 15:04.54 | Pali | old ali code is here: http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/maemo/u-boot/old/ |
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| 17:11.44 | jpinx | anyone able to help me transfer a simple text file from one N900 to another by bluetooth -- they are paired ok, and synch is working but only allows transfer of contacts (all), calendar events and calendar notes |
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| 17:15.14 | Sicelo | jpinx: not sync. use File Managerto 'Share' |
| 17:15.33 | Sicelo | s/ert/er t/ |
| 17:15.51 | jpinx | k - thanks :) |
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| 17:18.48 | fredddd | Robot101, do you know anything about SASL? |
| 17:19.42 | Robot101 | fredddd: a bit |
| 17:20.28 | fredddd | Well I do not really, and I am following a mail server tutorial which suggests it. |
| 17:20.36 | fredddd | Does it provide increased security for the connection from user to server? |
| 17:20.51 | fredddd | I have setup a single user mail server (personal use) for myself in the past and the tutorial I used back then did not suggest it. |
| 17:21.15 | Robot101 | hrm... it's a standard mechanism to add pluggable authentication into various protocols |
| 17:21.33 | fredddd | I plan to just use STARTTLS with my mail server. =/ |
| 17:21.49 | Robot101 | there are SASL mechanisms (PLAIN, DIGEST-MD5, NTLM, etc) and a SASL handshake which can be included into different protocols (SMTP, IMAP, etc) |
| 17:22.00 | Robot101 | STARTTLS refers to setting up an encrypted channel |
| 17:22.20 | Robot101 | typically when you set up the encrypted channel, the server will identify itself to you using a certificate |
| 17:22.32 | fredddd | But IMAP + TLS is not good enough? What does this SASL do that TLS does not do? |
| 17:22.34 | Robot101 | whilst you can use client certificates to prove your identity to the server, it's not typical |
| 17:22.46 | Robot101 | usually you will then also use SASL to log in to the server - then it knows who you are |
| 17:22.59 | Robot101 | or, put another way, it's just how you send your username and password to log in :) |
| 17:23.08 | Robot101 | if you use IMAP you must use SASL to log in |
| 17:23.14 | fredddd | But this should be encrypted regardless, with TLS, no? |
| 17:23.21 | fredddd | So. |
| 17:23.27 | fredddd | I should do the SASL part then too. |
| 17:23.30 | fredddd | I will be using IAMP. |
| 17:23.32 | fredddd | IMAP* |
| 17:23.42 | Robot101 | yes, it will be encrypted. but encryption doesn't mean anyone should read your mail or send via your server... :) |
| 17:24.00 | fredddd | No, that is why I have a username and password. :X |
| 17:24.10 | Robot101 | yes - SASL is how IMAP checks your password |
| 17:24.18 | Robot101 | it's just a protocol and API for logging in |
| 17:24.34 | fredddd | But I logged in before without it when I used to have an IMAP server up. |
| 17:24.39 | fredddd | D: |
| 17:24.41 | fredddd | is confused |
| 17:24.48 | Robot101 | your IMAP server was probably just doing SASL for you |
| 17:24.59 | ruskie | hmmm anyone know where/if anywhere erminig stores any caches/etc..? |
| 17:25.00 | Robot101 | dovecot for instance, just does it for you based on whatever user/pass database you configure |
| 17:25.18 | Robot101 | but afaik, all IMAP logins are done with SASL |
| 17:25.32 | fredddd | Ha, I will go with it then. |
| 17:25.34 | Robot101 | ie the protocol requires it. in older protocols like XMPP or SMTP then SASL is an optional add-on |
| 17:25.42 | fredddd | Was just not sure if it would be of any use for my particular situation. |
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| 17:26.01 | Robot101 | you want it on your SMTP server so only authenticated users can use your server as a mail relay |
| 17:26.11 | fredddd | I usually thought if you use regular encryption (TLS) with a connection you were good to go. |
| 17:26.12 | Robot101 | otherwise you will become the pawn of merciless spammers :) |
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| 17:26.22 | Robot101 | encryption is different to authentication |
| 17:26.37 | Robot101 | TLS = encryption, SASL = authentication |
| 17:26.39 | Robot101 | you need both |
| 17:26.56 | fredddd | I get it now. |
| 17:26.58 | Robot101 | and usually, you also don't want SASL to work without TLS, otherwise your password could be sent in clear |
| 17:27.00 | ruskie | well both are nice ;) |
| 17:27.09 | fredddd | I am following this: http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-system-users-debian-6-squeeze#sph_sasl-authentication |
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| 17:28.14 | jacekowski | well, if you've got TLS then whatever you've got is going to be safe |
| 17:28.29 | Robot101 | fredddd: ignore that bit about libsasl and saslauthd, it's wrong - if postfix is using dovecot to do SASL, then it doesn't use libsasl etc |
| 17:28.44 | jacekowski | cyrus is much better option |
| 17:28.48 | Robot101 | fredddd: it looks like the tutorial had the old way and was only half-updated to the new way with dovecot (which is preferred, as libsasl is whack and dovecot is awesome) |
| 17:28.54 | ruskie | jacekowski, hahaha |
| 17:29.09 | fredddd | Robot101, in the past I used this one: http://www.splitbrain.org/blog/2008-01/31-setup_postfix_and_dovecot_on_debian_etch |
| 17:29.10 | Robot101 | life's too short to configure cyrus :) |
| 17:29.22 | fredddd | It is from 2008, but it resulted in me setting up a working server on Debian 6 which appeared to be fine. |
| 17:29.23 | jacekowski | it only takes like 20 minutes |
| 17:29.51 | ruskie | fredddd, try http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/PostfixAndDovecotSASL |
| 17:29.56 | Robot101 | fredddd: that looks pretty good - similar to what I have except I also have TLS |
| 17:30.06 | fredddd | Robot101, an additional post explains that. |
| 17:30.15 | Robot101 | anyway **(* look at the time I gotta pack |
| 17:30.18 | Robot101 | train in 40 mins |
| 17:30.33 | fredddd | Thanks for the information. ^^ |
| 17:31.06 | ruskie | also note there are #postfix and #dovecot channels that such things would probably fit better ;) |
| 17:31.41 | fredddd | Yeah well I know Robot101 is pretty knowledged in this so I was hoping to get a short and direct clear answer from him, which he somewhat did, which self research did not with search engines. |
| 17:31.51 | fredddd | The SASL bit was only confusing me. |
| 17:31.56 | fredddd | I have setup Postfix and Dovecot before just fine. |
| 17:31.59 | ruskie | well see the dovecot wiki directly ;) |
| 17:32.04 | ruskie | has the howtos there already ;) |
| 17:34.43 | Pali | freemangordon, did you found someting in u-boot? |
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| 18:02.08 | FIQ | due to it depending on an old kernel version of kernel-power |
| 18:02.56 | FIQ | MohammadAG: ^ |
| 18:04.22 | FIQ | ~seen MohammadAG |
| 18:04.31 | infobot | mohammadag is currently on #maemo #harmattan #meego, last said: 'javispedro, ssu chan'. |
| 18:04.31 | FIQ | whatever |
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| 18:23.17 | fredddd | Robot101? |
| 18:23.25 | fredddd | Or anyone in general, although the channel might be inappropriate. |
| 18:23.36 | fredddd | If I interpret it right, imaps is deprecated compared to imap, right? |
| 18:23.49 | fredddd | This mail server tutorial is suggesting me to switch to imaps for my server when configuring a certificate on it. |
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| 19:41.15 | valdyn | fredddd: certificate suggests that you use an encrypted connection, which is not provided by imap without the s |
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| 19:42.13 | fredddd | IMAP + TLS > IMAPS (SSL) right? |
| 19:42.48 | luke-jr | fredddd: yes |
| 19:43.02 | luke-jr | valdyn is either wrong, or talking about something client-specific :P |
| 19:43.34 | luke-jr | also, it's possible your mail server doesn't support TLS? |
| 19:50.18 | fredddd | It does. |
| 19:50.30 | fredddd | Dovecot and Postfix support it. |
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| 23:38.21 | vortigaunt | hey guys |
| 23:38.29 | vortigaunt | i just got a free n900 :) |
| 23:38.52 | vortigaunt | i was wondering if you guys can point me to a nice and up to date tutorial on flashing |
| 23:39.05 | DocScrutinizer | ~flash |
| 23:39.06 | infobot | i heard maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 23:39.09 | VladNistor | nice. someone stole mine :) |
| 23:39.20 | vortigaunt | i googled a bunch of them .. but i dont want to brick this |
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| 23:39.44 | vortigaunt | that sucks :| |
| 23:39.52 | DocScrutinizer | ?? |
| 23:40.12 | DocScrutinizer | nm |
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| 23:40.31 | VladNistor | :) enjot it, it's nice piecw of hw |
| 23:40.58 | vortigaunt | i know .. i've been looking to have one for a while |
| 23:41.51 | vortigaunt | i've been using it for 3 days now ... its awesome |
| 23:42.16 | vortigaunt | so the link infobot gave me ... should i follow that ? |
| 23:42.21 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 23:42.52 | vortigaunt | i want to completly wipe it.. fresh install |
| 23:43.00 | DocScrutinizer | read the *whole* page, as it's a bit mixedpickles structured |
| 23:43.18 | DocScrutinizer | then you want to flash both COMBINED and VANILLA |
| 23:43.18 | vortigaunt | i sure will :) |
| 23:43.53 | VladNistor | good lad |
| 23:48.39 | vortigaunt | hope i wont f* up this .. seems complicated |
| 23:48.45 | vortigaunt | thanks guys! |