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| 02:37.00 | happymonkey | anyone know where I can get the md5sum for debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma ? |
| 02:42.07 | happymonkey | I see that there is an md5sum check made using /home/user/img-install/debian-installer.sh but I'm wondering where I can find this? |
| 02:48.12 | happymonkey | ah got it 39e487fd2d427521159d0283ff165437 |
| 02:48.19 | happymonkey | http://qole.org/imagelist-fremantle-01 |
| 02:49.35 | happymonkey | ok so it's a clean download |
| 02:49.39 | happymonkey | that's a relief |
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| 03:11.06 | happymonkey | so does anyone know what the matter is then, lzma -dv debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma |
| 03:11.06 | happymonkey | lzma: Decoder error |
| 03:11.14 | happymonkey | if the image is good |
| 03:11.26 | happymonkey | is it a free memory thing? |
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| 07:24.49 | Minze | hi there |
| 07:26.31 | Minze | is there yet a release of alien dalvik for the N900 or N9 |
| 07:26.56 | Minze | or some community driven project alike alien dalvik? |
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| 12:37.17 | n900-tw | Test |
| 12:39.40 | merlin1991 | test back |
| 12:40.49 | n900-tw | Using pidgin on n900 for irc, not much area left to view the chat |
| 12:40.59 | n900-tw | Xchat gives more view |
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| 12:56.01 | Pali | ping X-Fade |
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| 12:56.35 | Pali | ~seen X-Fade |
| 12:56.41 | infobot | x-fade is currently on #maemo (1d 4h 51m 46s) #harmattan (1d 4h 51m 46s) #meego (1d 4h 51m 46s). Has said a total of 41 messages. Is idling for 23h 32m 4s, last said: 'gri: Security through obscurity is always a false sense.'. |
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| 12:59.31 | Macer | well at least the last thing he said was rather philosophical |
| 12:59.33 | Macer | lol |
| 12:59.42 | Macer | tech zen |
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| 13:19.27 | swiftkick | does the n900 support HSDPA ? |
| 13:20.13 | auenf | iirc, yes |
| 13:20.17 | auenf | 10/2 |
| 13:22.54 | bindi | uh |
| 13:22.58 | bindi | i'm pretty sure it's 14.4 |
| 13:23.17 | bindi | actually, i'm sure :p |
| 13:24.08 | auenf | "3 Maximum speed up to 10 Mbps (DL). |
| 13:24.08 | auenf | 4 Maximum speed up to 2 Mbps (UL). " |
| 13:24.12 | auenf | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/Device_specifications/N900/ |
| 13:24.22 | bindi | i've hit 14 Mbps on 3G |
| 13:24.41 | auenf | not with n900 |
| 13:24.44 | bindi | yes |
| 13:24.53 | bindi | exactly with N900 |
| 13:25.19 | auenf | bits or bytes? |
| 13:25.25 | bindi | I can give you a speedtest of somesort if you remind me this night, when people are sleeping and I get full speed |
| 13:25.41 | bindi | b for bits |
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| 13:26.26 | bindi | http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/nokia-n900/specifications/ |
| 13:26.29 | bindi | Hardware |
| 13:26.34 | bindi | 2 Requires data service. Data services may not be available in all networks. Data transmission speeds may be as high as HSDPA 14.4 Mbps |
| 13:26.56 | auenf | "HSPA, maximum speed up to 10 Mbps (DL), 2 Mbps (UL)" |
| 13:27.04 | bindi | Data transmission speeds may be as high as HSDPA 14.4 Mbps |
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| 13:29.55 | auenf | wouldnt be suprised if that footnote is left over from another model |
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| 13:30.53 | auenf | http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/nokia-2320-classic/specifications/ |
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| 13:31.16 | auenf | if you take that footnote literally, then a 2G only device can transfer at 14.4 |
| 13:31.17 | bindi | I have first-hand experience of receiving 14.4 Mbps on an N900 |
| 13:31.38 | auenf | err, 2.75G, but point still stands |
| 13:32.16 | auenf | looks like its a generic footnote on all phones |
| 13:32.37 | SpeedEvil | bindi: wow |
| 13:33.10 | auenf | http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/nokia-1616/specifications/ |
| 13:33.20 | auenf | awesome, 14.4 on a phone with no data capability |
| 13:33.39 | bindi | :p |
| 13:33.53 | bindi | I can give you a 1GBnull wget or a speedtest.net result at midnight |
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| 13:38.03 | auenf | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=622457&postcount=17 |
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| 17:21.20 | merlin1991 | ~iow |
| 17:21.20 | infobot | iow is, like, In Other Words |
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| 17:49.06 | Venemo | hey |
| 17:49.16 | Venemo | is the CSSU anywhere near stable enough to be worth bothering with? |
| 17:50.20 | NIN102 | CSSU has a stable branch |
| 17:50.38 | NIN102 | so the answer is probably: yes. |
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| 17:50.42 | NIN102 | afk. |
| 17:50.45 | Venemo | mmhm |
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| 18:05.51 | merlin1991 | Venemo: stable cssu is stable enough to be worth bothering with |
| 18:06.04 | merlin1991 | can say that since he is responsible for cssu stable ;) |
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| 18:26.29 | Venemo | merlin1991, all right, installing it now :) |
| 18:26.55 | merlin1991 | Venemo: in case you have mhd installed get rid of it before installing cssu |
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| 18:27.39 | Venemo | merlin1991, I'm giving my N900 to my father. he is not too much of a tech enthusiast, but he wants to have a phone with which he can browse the web. |
| 18:28.06 | Venemo | merlin1991, I myself had been using the cssu-testing since its inception :) |
| 18:28.11 | merlin1991 | :) |
| 18:28.23 | merlin1991 | what are you using now? n9? |
| 18:28.35 | Venemo | well, I have both the N950 and the Lumia, and not enough free time to hack on the N900 anymore |
| 18:29.05 | Venemo | unfortunately I don't have the N9 |
| 18:29.50 | merlin1991 | well you can't hack on it at all |
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| 18:30.00 | Venemo | hmm? |
| 18:30.09 | merlin1991 | ssh and you're fine, but doing stuff on the device with the vkbd sucks |
| 18:31.04 | Venemo | true. but as I said, I don't have it. |
| 18:31.29 | BluesLee | Venemo: are you developing for the lumia? |
| 18:32.17 | Venemo | BluesLee, not specifically for the Lumia, but I've been working on a WP7 project, yes. |
| 18:33.02 | BluesLee | Venemo: i have also a lumia, i mean i am not proud of having a wp device but i have this guy |
| 18:33.44 | Venemo | BluesLee, to be honest, the Lumia 800 feels a lot like a finished product than the N950. I can't comment on the N9 though, as I don't have one. |
| 18:33.58 | BluesLee | Venemo: but compared to my n9 its good enough for a drawer |
| 18:34.03 | Venemo | hehehe |
| 18:34.49 | BluesLee | honestly, its about 99,9% in a drawer, there are so many things i dislike and i used it only for 10 minutes |
| 18:35.36 | Venemo | for example? |
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| 18:36.06 | BluesLee | m$ bought skype for several billions, its well integrated in all os'es, guess on which os its not available so far? |
| 18:37.12 | BluesLee | you can add weather tiles to the "home" screen but the tile does not update you with wearther informations, i would expect this |
| 18:37.58 | BluesLee | m$ restricts the developer too much to theri standards |
| 18:38.26 | Venemo | heh, well |
| 18:38.33 | Venemo | I've been a .NET dev for a long time |
| 18:38.55 | BluesLee | you cant update web informations on a regular basis (only >=30 minutes) but you may use therir push services |
| 18:39.17 | BluesLee | tiles have to be 173x173 etc etc |
| 18:41.13 | BluesLee | i wish nokia the very best with wp, i dont think that they will succeed with that, only if they modify the ui |
| 18:41.48 | BluesLee | harmattan is much, much more intuitive |
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| 18:43.44 | BluesLee | how do you switch from the "event" screen to the "app" screen? have a look http://triangle-ware.net/wp-content/uploads/Windows-Phone-7.jpg |
| 18:44.08 | ruskie | si this is now #wp |
| 18:44.10 | ruskie | ? |
| 18:44.30 | BluesLee | ruskie: yeah, i am talking about wp |
| 18:46.33 | BluesLee | it would be interesting to know how many lumias nokia sold so far |
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| 19:30.03 | Vanadis__ | NIN102, kommen Sie bitte in den anderen Kanal |
| 19:30.08 | Vanadis__ | es ist Weihnachten |
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| 22:51.23 | jacks_n900 | how do I turn off sound quickly |
| 22:51.32 | jacks_n900 | n900 |
| 22:52.11 | NIN102 | touch the clock, chose the profile. |
| 22:52.54 | jacks_n900 | eg when a website suddenly makes sound |
| 22:52.59 | jacks_n900 | noise |
| 22:53.03 | jacks_n900 | music |
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| 22:55.17 | jacks_n900 | or can you set to turn sound off by turning your phone up side down |
| 22:56.44 | jacks_n900 | ? |
| 23:05.45 | jacks_n900 | night |
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| 23:40.55 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, drive-by asker |
| 23:42.48 | DocScrutinizer | actually stopping sound from webpages by "turning upside down" was interesting a thing to check. On my Samsung OMNIA I had to disable this function as it introduced dropouts into music playback from mp3 when phone was in my pocket while walking :-/ |
| 23:43.33 | ShadowJK | flashblock |
| 23:43.39 | DocScrutinizer | I think the fastest way always is VOL- button |
| 23:43.48 | ShadowJK | unless it zooms |
| 23:44.00 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, on webpages yeah |
| 23:44.11 | DocScrutinizer | it will prolly zoom rather than hush |
| 23:45.29 | DocScrutinizer | flashblock would be nice if it acts immediately on already loaded/rendered webpages and was easily accessible |
| 23:46.16 | DocScrutinizer | I could figure about a powerbutton menu entry to start some script that tears down audio all together |
| 23:46.39 | DocScrutinizer | like in killall pulseaudio or sth ;-P |
| 23:47.15 | ShadowJK | adblock-css makes flash require a tap before it starts |
| 23:47.31 | DocScrutinizer | I actually don't think turning-upside-down works for anything except ringtone |
| 23:48.07 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: won't help when you learn by ears that this flash media starts nasty sound |
| 23:48.12 | ShadowJK | auto-rotate pisses me off when I'm lying on the side in my bed trying to read stuff, and it's always 90 degrees off |
| 23:48.20 | ShadowJK | yeah |
| 23:49.03 | DocScrutinizer | auto rotate pisses me off all the time |
| 23:49.25 | jacekowski | i remember that my windows mobile PDA had dedicate button for that |
| 23:49.40 | jacekowski | no auto rotation |
| 23:50.14 | DocScrutinizer | that's why I refused to upgrade CSSU until they promeised they will walk me thru all the gconf foo to stop it ever rotating except for dialer |
| 23:51.13 | DocScrutinizer | microB still autorotates but I guess I have to live with that until I find out how to blacklist it or sth |
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| 23:52.44 | DocScrutinizer | I lovingly and epically explained several times to everybody involved what'S the problem with autorotation, accelerometer&mce, and a way to block it and nail it to a certain orientation |
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| 23:54.56 | DocScrutinizer | apps directly reading accelerometer do it wrong anyway |
| 23:56.10 | DocScrutinizer | mce not providing a separate physical-orientation and logical-orientation info doesn't help either |
| 23:56.48 | DocScrutinizer | and every app inventing a new sheme to deal with all this makes things a complete mess |
| 23:58.26 | DocScrutinizer | basically we'd need an orientationd that gets queried by the particular app and returns individual instructions regarding what orientation this app shall use, and we needed to patch all apps that use any other method |
| 23:59.36 | DocScrutinizer | alternatively HD could change aspect ratio of X display according to what app is in foreground |
