| 00:00.09 | luca_ | anyway, just wanted to let you know that I finally fixed it and what was the problem |
| 00:00.29 | DocScrutinizer | thanks |
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| 00:40.31 | DocScrutinizer | I always wondered if the symlinking is the right method for the ringtone changing. I also wonder what would happen when you do a "cat new_ringtone.wav >cached_rintone.wav" while cached_rintone is currently played back by the errr whatever does this ringtone playback |
| 00:40.52 | DocScrutinizer | barisione: ^^^ |
| 00:41.31 | luke-jr | I definitely agree with symlink |
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| 00:56.52 | DocScrutinizer | luke-jr: you don't see the whole picture |
| 00:57.46 | luke-jr | nope! |
| 00:58.18 | DocScrutinizer | using symlinks means we need to stop the ringtoneplayer change the symlink according to what we found from addrbook and then restart ringtoneplaying so it opens the new ringtone data file |
| 00:59.36 | DocScrutinizer | that's why for luca_ there was that weird behaviour that every alarm sound got stopped immediately after starting it, according to what he saw on dbus |
| 00:59.42 | DocScrutinizer | AIUI |
| 01:00.03 | DocScrutinizer | changing raw data of the opened .wav would eliminate the need for all that |
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| 01:02.53 | DocScrutinizer | and also would guarantee we always have *some* audio data to playback, even when something goes awry on final ending ringtone playing where right now the (per-contact-)ringtoned has to change symlink to contact specific .wav back to default.wav |
| 01:03.58 | DocScrutinizer | even when copying new or default audio data halfway then segfaulting, all we got is a messed up ringtone data, not a dangling symlink |
| 01:06.58 | DocScrutinizer | OTOH probably buffering will render my idea moot |
| 01:08.09 | DocScrutinizer | that's why I said "I also *wonder* what would happen..." |
| 01:09.20 | DocScrutinizer | depending on more factors than I could list here, the result of this action may differ significantly |
| 01:10.06 | DocScrutinizer | best probably was to rewrite the ringtoneplayer, whatever it is |
| 01:10.26 | DocScrutinizer | tonegend or whatever |
| 01:10.52 | DocScrutinizer | I guess they won't use mafw for that |
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| 01:13.20 | slobro | umm, hello. I just got an used n900, and I was wondering that how I could find out what maemo and firmware version Im running? |
| 01:13.44 | SpeedEvil | settings -> about |
| 01:13.57 | SpeedEvil | Also - ~flashing |
| 01:14.03 | SpeedEvil | ~flashing |
| 01:14.03 | infobot | rumour has it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 01:15.27 | psycho_oreos | entering *#0000# still shows version |
| 01:16.19 | merlin1991 | lmao just wanted to swipe to close on my n900 |
| 01:17.35 | slobro | hmm, version 21.2011.38-1, pretty new I guess |
| 01:17.48 | DocScrutinizer | doesn't mean much |
| 01:18.02 | merlin1991 | oh it does |
| 01:18.05 | psycho_oreos | yeah its the latest |
| 01:18.09 | DocScrutinizer | I guess you'll reflash it anyway, as soon as you get it |
| 01:19.19 | psycho_oreos | I wouldn't ;) |
| 01:19.55 | merlin1991 | reflashing was the first thing I did when I got my 2nd n900 |
| 01:20.53 | psycho_oreos | dd was the first thing when I got my second and subsequent N900, after that it was flashing |
| 01:21.17 | merlin1991 | why dd? |
| 01:21.56 | psycho_oreos | grins devilishly and says no more |
| 01:22.06 | merlin1991 | I see |
| 01:22.24 | DocScrutinizer | shrugs |
| 01:22.51 | DocScrutinizer | whatever been the purpose, it's most likely not been to the point |
| 01:23.56 | DocScrutinizer | a sane user has reflashed combined and vanilla anyway, prior to selling |
| 01:24.14 | DocScrutinizer | a not so sane user has nothing I'd be interested in |
| 01:24.31 | merlin1991 | my 2nd n900 is interesting though, it has a hardware fault so that the software detects that cellmo doesn't work, it does display a banner in the 3 dots load screen |
| 01:24.47 | psycho_oreos | you meant 5 |
| 01:24.48 | merlin1991 | but it doesn't go past it unless the banner is pressed |
| 01:24.54 | merlin1991 | ooops :D |
| 01:25.06 | merlin1991 | but I get the same banner again when h-d finishes loading :D |
| 01:25.13 | psycho_oreos | and I've actually found some interesting data however.. |
| 01:28.15 | DocScrutinizer | a user like me would leave some spyware in a deleted honeypot file for users like you, when selling |
| 01:29.54 | psycho_oreos | the chances of you getting information out of that spyware from me would be unlikely :) |
| 01:30.20 | psycho_oreos | let alone anyone |
| 01:31.17 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, let's try it ;-P |
| 01:32.24 | psycho_oreos | and what are you going to do even if I did dd your sold device? report me in for trying to reveal your secrecy? |
| 01:32.27 | psycho_oreos | lol |
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| 01:35.14 | DocScrutinizer | eh? nah, I'm going to use your secrit shit to do nonsense |
| 01:36.55 | psycho_oreos | i.e. personal vendetta just because you couldn't let go of your old device having your past secrets revealed? heh that's even worse than me dumping yer history out ;) |
| 01:37.53 | DocScrutinizer | sure, I'm evil |
| 01:38.22 | merlin1991 | yes you are, see: |
| 01:38.26 | merlin1991 | ~scrutinizing |
| 01:38.27 | infobot | it has been said that scrutinizing is what DocScrutinizer does after eating some datasheets for breakfast |
| 01:38.39 | DocScrutinizer | however I said *deleted* honeypot file, so you'd start the spyware only when trying to recover deleted shit from that device |
| 01:38.40 | psycho_oreos | makes a mental note to not buy stuff from DocScrutinizer ;) though I gotta admit I'm still a sucker for N950 |
| 01:39.44 | luke-jr | how does telepathy-ring work without linking to libcmtspeechdata? :| |
| 01:40.36 | luke-jr | merlin1991: does it let you use cellmo if you bypass the detect? |
| 01:41.15 | DocScrutinizer | btw guess what's #1 on list of "always works" attack vectors to do industry spying - yep, you simply "forget" an USB stick next to the employee of that company |
| 01:41.41 | merlin1991 | luke-jr: didn't try |
| 01:42.53 | jazedal | Does anyone have any experience getting gpg-agent to work on the N900? |
| 01:44.17 | javispedro | luke-jr: what the h is libcmtspeechdata and wouldn't pulseaudio be using it instead of tp-ring? |
| 01:44.22 | jazedal | gpg has trouble connecting to the agent |
| 01:47.12 | luke-jr | javispedro: libcmtspeechdata is apparently how to do audio with cellmo |
| 01:47.14 | luke-jr | I don't want PA |
| 01:48.23 | javispedro | more reason it'll link to a PA module instead of tp-ring |
| 01:48.34 | javispedro | (not on what you're building, of course). |
| 01:49.09 | luke-jr | why? |
| 01:49.16 | luke-jr | every other telepathy module does audio handling |
| 01:50.15 | Robot101 | they pass the codec / network data "up" from the telepathy connection manager to the stream engine which has the RTP stack |
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| 01:50.34 | Robot101 | telepathy-ring controls csd and pulseaudio just magics the audio into place |
| 01:50.40 | luke-jr | -.- |
| 01:51.25 | Robot101 | doing the equivalent to voip isn't very useful to telepathy as you just have to have some higher-level component which understands a lower layer backend thing which has device-specific knowledge about audio routing |
| 01:51.52 | Robot101 | if every internet backend in telepathy needed a different/custom streaming format (and not just rtp) they'd all do it inside the protocol backend too |
| 01:58.26 | slobro | hmm, should I just flash with the global firmware image, when the n900 has been bought in finland.. |
| 02:01.29 | luke-jr | so in plain English… there's no way to make voice calls work without PA blob crap? |
| 02:01.43 | javispedro | luke-jr: PA stuff no longer has blobs in meego |
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| 02:01.52 | luke-jr | javispedro: slightly better. |
| 02:01.54 | javispedro | well.. |
| 02:02.00 | luke-jr | where's the code? :P |
| 02:02.12 | luke-jr | if not under https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-cellular/ |
| 02:03.36 | javispedro | http://meego.gitorious.org/maemo-multimedia/pulseaudio-modules-meego/blobs/master/src/cmtspeech/cmtspeech-connection.c |
| 02:04.09 | javispedro | now that I remember, there are still PA blobs, |
| 02:04.29 | javispedro | how much annoying they are probably Sts knows. |
| 02:05.06 | javispedro | (seemingly related to audio processing iirc) |
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| 02:11.24 | DocScrutinizer | well, on SHR we got cmtspeech anyway |
| 02:11.33 | DocScrutinizer | and we don't use PA ;-D |
| 02:11.53 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: link? :D |
| 02:12.40 | DocScrutinizer | actually cmtspeech is utterly silly, it's just reading from one serial data interface and forwarding to another, and vice versa |
| 02:13.14 | luke-jr | … |
| 02:16.17 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: link? :D |
| 02:16.39 | DocScrutinizer | mompl |
| 02:17.25 | DocScrutinizer | author just asked me "cmtspeech like we do it? or like meego does it?" |
| 02:18.04 | DocScrutinizer | http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=tree;f=fsoaudiod/src/plugins/gsmvoice_alsa_cmtspeechdata;h=e288a6d7433aed7b70d792d4823486b9ace7f44b;hb=HEAD here you go |
| 02:18.41 | DocScrutinizer | hope you like the brilliance of the simple architecture, it's designed by me |
| 02:18.44 | DocScrutinizer | ;-P |
| 02:18.46 | luke-jr | meego uses PA; do not want |
| 02:18.58 | luke-jr | (%*#)%# |
| 02:19.00 | luke-jr | vala -.- |
| 02:19.00 | DocScrutinizer | me neither :-D |
| 02:19.11 | DocScrutinizer | LOL |
| 02:19.12 | luke-jr | wonders which is worse, vala or PA |
| 02:19.32 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |
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| 02:20.20 | luke-jr | 700 lines, can't be hard to port to C… |
| 02:21.20 | DocScrutinizer | prolly not |
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| 02:21.30 | DocScrutinizer | actually it's more easy in c |
| 02:21.57 | DocScrutinizer | as you can use direct ALSA pcm_xxx() calls rather than that vala stub cruft |
| 02:22.37 | luke-jr | lol |
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| 02:25.46 | luke-jr | wonders if he should be using FreeSmartPhone's telephony stack instead of ofono |
| 02:25.55 | luke-jr | ofono needs glib-- is FSP's glib-free? ;) |
| 02:26.29 | javispedro | if it uses vala.. |
| 02:27.33 | DocScrutinizer | you can tell for sure that I hate this detail: >>pcmin.open( "plug:dsnoop", Alsa.PcmStream.CAPTURE );<< - hardcoded ALSA stack, OMFG |
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| 02:30.10 | javispedro | in the meanwhile, what you knew as the android kernel is now the linux kernel, as it seems that we got wakelocks :( |
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| 02:39.52 | DocScrutinizer | heard something like that, and I think I'm going to start a killing rage |
| 02:40.09 | DocScrutinizer | lennart?? |
| 02:40.27 | javispedro | not involved |
| 02:40.42 | DocScrutinizer | so he has to wait now, will deal with him later |
| 02:41.56 | DocScrutinizer | first the fools who got this crap into clean nice linux |
| 02:47.35 | GeneralAntilles | WE NEED MOAR DROID |
| 02:48.57 | javispedro | probably also related to "the year of linux disappointments" |
| 02:49.05 | javispedro | with nokia & contractors being pulled out of the kernel... |
| 02:49.30 | javispedro | previously, you'd get someone arguing "hey, we're doing fine without wakelocks on our devices" |
| 02:49.31 | GeneralAntilles | This is shaping up to be a messy decade. |
| 02:49.37 | javispedro | nowadays it's just @android people |
| 02:49.49 | GeneralAntilles | Reading the comments on the LWN summary of that article was depression. |
| 02:49.54 | GeneralAntilles | (inducing) |
| 02:49.58 | GeneralAntilles | ANDROIDANDROIDANDROID |
| 02:51.01 | GeneralAntilles | Reminds me of LFCSSF 2009 when DiBona answered a question about Google not collaborating or releasing code |
| 02:51.12 | GeneralAntilles | and it was OK because none of their competitors did either |
| 02:51.34 | DocScrutinizer | hah |
| 02:51.37 | javispedro | ... |
| 02:51.40 | GeneralAntilles | s/2009/2010/ |
| 02:51.49 | javispedro | even more ... |
| 02:51.53 | GeneralAntilles | Which of course Nokia made up half that conference. |
| 02:52.14 | GeneralAntilles | And they seemed to have very little trouble with their kernel code and collaboration. |
| 02:53.56 | GeneralAntilles | He didn't have much to say after that was pointed out to him. |
| 02:53.57 | DocScrutinizer | well, nite all, got enough stuff for some pleasant dreams full of violence |
| 02:54.25 | GeneralAntilles | Later |
| 02:54.44 | javispedro | gnite DocScrutinizer |
| 02:54.44 | luke-jr | javispedro: actually, I found proprietary wakelocks in some Nokia code |
| 02:56.05 | javispedro | luke-jr: without agressive suspending, it's just cpuidle stuff, such as the one in musb |
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| 03:34.00 | javispedro | fails to undestand why Google is using the fact that "Lennart is using Google+" to try to convince me to join Google+. |
| 03:36.03 | DocScrutinizer | LOLMUHAHAHA*cough*gasp |
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| 03:36.25 | DocScrutinizer | I might feel tempted |
| 03:36.28 | DocScrutinizer | ;-P |
| 03:40.09 | DocScrutinizer | I wonder if I could find that video again of last year's CCC where MrPoettering acted like an asshat entering the stage and arguing with a dude who tried to hold a lecture about why PA is getting too fat for "usual workstations" |
| 03:40.12 | javispedro | lol @ a discussion where "utter braindamage" is uttered right in the first reply |
| 03:43.32 | javispedro | and of course, the guy is a N900 owner =) |
| 03:43.45 | DocScrutinizer | one of the most amusing arguments mr poettering used was "we need PA before user session gets started, otherwise we couldn't read the login screen for the visually impaired" - or sth along that line. Nothing against impaired persons and accessability, but for KDM??? c'mon! |
| 03:45.03 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer: don't worry, eventually, it'll be so coupled to Linux (and viceversa) that it'll get pushed into Android^W the kernel, and then we'll be back at stage one. |
| 03:45.26 | DocScrutinizer | gasps |
| 03:45.45 | javispedro | Cannot wait for the Reallly Advanced Linux Sound Architecture! (RALSA) |
| 03:45.49 | DocScrutinizer | I might consider switching to netBSD |
| 03:46.42 | javispedro | I still have some love for the GPL... |
| 03:46.51 | DocScrutinizer | this whole linux land starts to become a mental home |
| 03:48.16 | luke-jr | blah, why does audio have to be so complex? |
| 03:48.33 | DocScrutinizer | back in "the old days" (like 10some years ago) linux was for experts and only experts messed with things like kernel. Now each fool who grew out of scripting DoS thinks they can improve kernel, let alone KDE etc |
| 03:49.37 | DocScrutinizer | on a side note latest openSuse supports KDE3 again |
| 03:50.13 | DocScrutinizer | the best KDE ever |
| 03:50.15 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: I recently fixed a bug in KDE where some guy "optimized" the IMAP protocol handler by removing parenthesis… which meant it omitted the message size when there were no flags, so it failed. -.- |
| 03:50.37 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 03:50.45 | DocScrutinizer | another script kiddie |
| 03:51.06 | javispedro | lol |
| 03:51.13 | javispedro | I'm going to restore your faith into Linux |
| 03:51.37 | luke-jr | of course, nobody really noticed because KDE doesn't use *that* IMAP protocol handler… they use *a different* IMAP handler |
| 03:51.39 | javispedro | words from the current linux scheduler maintainer: "Yes, this is why I loathe to update to a new distro, there's bound to |
| 03:51.40 | javispedro | new and improved *kit-daemon crap about which does random wakeups even |
| 03:51.40 | javispedro | though you know you're not using any of it, and when you're trying to |
| 03:51.40 | javispedro | uninstall that junk it thinks it needs to uninstall the world" |
| 03:51.45 | luke-jr | yes, KDE has 2 different IMAP implementations… |
| 03:52.04 | luke-jr | javispedro: that's why I use Gentoo |
| 03:52.10 | javispedro | (sorry for the unintentional \ns) |
| 03:52.17 | javispedro | luke-jr: same |
| 03:52.39 | luke-jr | though I was heavily tempted to give into *kit for KDE's power display stuff |
| 03:52.47 | luke-jr | but eventually decided it wasn't worth it (I can use CLI) |
| 03:52.58 | javispedro | it wouldn't have worked either way |
| 03:53.05 | luke-jr | probably not |
| 03:53.07 | luke-jr | sigh |
| 03:53.19 | luke-jr | someone needs to port KDE 3 to Qt4 and maintain it |
| 03:53.38 | luke-jr | (ie, not the Trinity idiots who think they're going to maintain Qt3 too) |
| 03:54.38 | javispedro | dunno what is going to be harder |
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| 03:54.54 | javispedro | kde is slightly more of a mess than qt3 |
| 03:55.01 | javispedro | well, at least if you remove the multiplatform parts from qt3. |
| 03:55.22 | javispedro | (from a maintainer's PoV and in my short experience) |
| 03:56.36 | javispedro | this discussion is just great so if you have time, do read it : http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1195425 |
| 03:56.59 | javispedro | (they're arguing about wakelocks, agressive suspend crap) |
| 04:05.37 | DocScrutinizer | omg gmane jow I hate that format |
| 04:05.48 | DocScrutinizer | how* |
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| 04:08.40 | javispedro | time to go |
| 04:08.42 | javispedro | cya |
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| 04:22.10 | luke-jr | writes an ALSA plugin to expose CMTSpeech as an ALSA device… |
| 04:23.00 | luke-jr | any reason *not* to do it that way? <.< |
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| 04:34.26 | DocScrutinizer | luke-jr: HIGHLY welcome |
| 04:34.44 | luke-jr | ok, good :p |
| 04:35.12 | DocScrutinizer | only reason my similar suggestion wasn't picked up was missing experise in writing ALSA card drivers |
| 04:35.31 | luke-jr | my first time touching ALSA code… |
| 04:35.31 | DocScrutinizer | and it had to become a card |
| 04:35.36 | luke-jr | why? |
| 04:35.47 | DocScrutinizer | because it does what a card usually does |
| 04:35.56 | luke-jr | so why not just a regular PCM device? |
| 04:36.49 | luke-jr | I'm assuming by "card drivers" you mean something in-kernel? |
| 04:37.05 | DocScrutinizer | right, PCM device / card / whatever. sth like hw:0.0 or any other device that acts as an endpoint of a stack |
| 04:37.24 | DocScrutinizer | yep, probably |
| 04:38.12 | luke-jr | I'm doing a shared object that uses libcmtspeechdata |
| 04:38.24 | luke-jr | http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/pcm_external_plugins.html |
| 04:38.34 | luke-jr | similar to dmix/dsnoop |
| 04:38.51 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, no obvious objections |
| 04:39.14 | DocScrutinizer | I probably don't really care |
| 04:39.26 | luke-jr | >_< |
| 04:39.34 | DocScrutinizer | as long as I can define my stacks as usual, incl hooks and all |
| 04:42.08 | luke-jr | any chance you have a magic "pipe these two ALSA device to each other" command I can test with? :p |
| 04:42.36 | DocScrutinizer | not really, except the age old arecord|aplay |
| 04:43.08 | luke-jr | yeah, that's just one direction tho |
| 04:43.19 | luke-jr | I've got 15 mins left to write this… :P |
| 04:43.42 | luke-jr | otherwise, I'm *probably* moving on to something else for 3 weeks, so I don't use up my (very limited) minutes |
| 04:43.53 | DocScrutinizer | I think there's been some loopback pcm plugin, but it obviously has thee end and still needs one proper pcm_open() |
| 04:44.14 | DocScrutinizer | (one direction) use two of them ;-D |
| 04:44.34 | luke-jr | :p |
| 04:47.26 | DocScrutinizer | loopback (my take on it) arecord -D loopback:{input; output} /dev/null |
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| 04:48.18 | DocScrutinizer | or rather: arecord -D loopback:{input; plug:output} /dev/null |
| 04:49.42 | DocScrutinizer | gstreamer prolly also works |
| 04:50.29 | DocScrutinizer | and avoids the extreme latency of the shell |pipe |
| 04:51.16 | DocScrutinizer | though you prolly could fix that by giving arecord/aplay proper chunksize orders |
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| 05:07.00 | luke-jr | gstreamer is glib :P |
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| 08:41.47 | beagleburt | trying to find a working download for osso-xterm .. any ideas? |
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| 10:10.15 | psycho_oreos | beagleburt, a working download? aren't they usually included in nokia's own repositories? |
| 10:14.54 | psycho_oreos | if you think about it, there are a few other probable ways without having to rely on nokia's repositories, combined/fiasco firmware would no doubt have it for instance, then a few people for various reasons would post tarballs (both in compressed as well as uncompressed forms) of rootfs which would have osso-xterm extracted but really you can always repack them up |
| 10:25.16 | beagleburt | <psycho_oreos>: only link I can find is dead. Also I am a compleate newbe & what you suggest is way beyond my skill level? |
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| 10:34.46 | psycho_oreos | beagleburt, another question comes to mind is why do you specifically want osso-xterm? is it because you accidentally removed it? |
| 10:35.36 | psycho_oreos | I think things like fapman might also be able to do the job |
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| 10:41.30 | beagleburt | psycho_oreos, I have 20x odd "770's" that had a buggy OS2006 on them. I flashed Hackers Edition 2007 & found that it had Osso x-term on it. I also found that OS2007HE was very slow & sometimes had problems with WiFi connecting, so I have reflashed them all with the original OS2006 but several people would like to buy them off me WITH an x-term? |
| 10:42.54 | beagleburt | What is "fapman" please? |
| 10:42.57 | psycho_oreos | beagleburt, ahh now its somewhat starting to make sense. You have 770 that you want the osso-xterm for. |
| 10:43.07 | beagleburt | YES |
| 10:43.23 | psycho_oreos | faster application manager, I don't think you'll find a program for that with 770, afaik it only appears under N900 |
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| 10:44.09 | beagleburt | psycho_oreos, ok ic |
| 10:44.48 | Pali | ping X-Fade |
| 10:44.58 | Pali | ~seen X-Fade |
| 10:45.04 | infobot | x-fade is currently on #maemo #harmattan #meego. Has said a total of 26 messages. Is idling for 3d 18h 49m 54s, last said: 'pawky: yes'. |
| 10:45.16 | psycho_oreos | beagleburt, so x-term is not available in those tableteer repositories? |
| 10:46.35 | beagleburt | psycho_oreos, have not found it so far |
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| 10:47.52 | psycho_oreos | beagleburt, well I personally don't have 770 myself though if its possible to install OS2007HE on one of the 770, install maybe dpkg-dev and maybe even dpkg-repack.. and use dpkg-repack to repack osso-xterm. That might help |
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| 10:49.52 | psycho_oreos | its a really long shot.. hmm whilst you're at it, would the OS2008HE edition work better at any rate? |
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| 10:51.31 | beagleburt | psycho_oreos, HMMM? I get the gist but beyond this newbe's current skill level...OS2008 did not have an x-term.. |
| 10:53.01 | psycho_oreos | beagleburt, ahh bugger so only OS2007HE would be your best bet. Well I wouldn't know how to make it any simpler.. the real issue is that you have 770 and I don't think there are many 770 owners that are currently active |
| 10:53.35 | aholler | the owners or the n770? |
| 10:53.46 | aholler | ;) |
| 10:54.06 | psycho_oreos | more like 770 rather than n770 |
| 10:54.07 | psycho_oreos | :) |
| 10:54.37 | beagleburt | psycho_oreos, i may have to wait a few years & offer them up as 'Collectors items' |
| 10:55.46 | psycho_oreos | thinks N900 is more valuable as a collector item but *shrugs* |
| 10:56.05 | beagleburt | psycho_oreos, ha ha ha! I thought i was the only n770 owner left in the world you mean there's 769 others? |
| 10:56.25 | neal | I have two 770s in daily use |
| 10:56.27 | psycho_oreos | beagleburt, I'm only referring to 770 owners that are currently active on this IRC session |
| 10:56.45 | beagleburt | psycho_oreos, oh ic |
| 10:57.33 | aholler | neal: beeing curious, what do you use them for? |
| 10:57.36 | psycho_oreos | aholler && neal, instead of saying you have 770 near you, why not put it into some good use and help beagleburt out? |
| 10:57.42 | neal | mpd clients |
| 10:57.51 | neal | remote controls |
| 10:59.01 | beagleburt | neal, pardon my ignorance but what is "mpd"? |
| 10:59.40 | neal | psycho_oreos: I read some backlog and I didn't see a question |
| 10:59.47 | neal | beagleburt: music player daemon |
| 10:59.58 | ShadowJK | 770s have this self-destruct habbit, kinda like N900 |
| 11:00.31 | psycho_oreos | self-destruct habbit? |
| 11:00.52 | psycho_oreos | neal, he wants a copy of osso-xterm |
| 11:01.23 | psycho_oreos | has yet to see the self destruct habit on three of his N900 lol |
| 11:01.31 | neal | according to my recollection it is in repository.maemo.org |
| 11:01.51 | neal | he just needs to enable the right repository |
| 11:01.51 | beagleburt | neal link is dead i think |
| 11:02.02 | neal | I doubt it |
| 11:02.12 | neal | if so, talk to x-fade |
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| 11:03.40 | neal | http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo1.1/free/o/osso-xterm/ |
| 11:03.55 | neal | that was easy |
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| 11:06.29 | beagleburt | neal, thankyou will check it out |
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| 11:24.04 | beagleburt | neal, this is the link i followed to nowhere: http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2007/osso-xterm-advanced/ |
| 11:24.51 | beagleburt | neal, i have downloaded your link ok - but am unsure how to install it on my 770? |
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| 11:27.53 | neal | then the 770 may not be for your |
| 11:27.56 | neal | s/your/you/ |
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| 11:33.25 | mgedmin | if you open http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2007/osso-xterm-advanced/ with the browser on your 770, clicking the green Install arrow should (with a couple of confirmations) install that package |
| 11:38.16 | beagleburt | mgedmin, leads to dead-end (web-parking site) |
| 11:38.33 | mgedmin | maemo.org? interesting/sad |
| 11:38.37 | mgedmin | but it works for me |
| 11:39.21 | mgedmin | http://imgur.com/Za8n2 |
| 11:39.44 | mgedmin | maemo.org has address 80.248.164.250 |
| 11:40.59 | beagleburt | <mgedmin> http://maemo-hackers.org/?f |
| 11:41.09 | mgedmin | ah |
| 11:41.55 | mgedmin | this link was not in my backlog |
| 11:42.53 | mgedmin | yeah, the upstream homepage is kaput |
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| 15:54.00 | RST38h | moos evilly, prays to the Tentacled One in the Depths of the Sea |
| 15:58.31 | javispedro | moo RST38h |
| 16:00.01 | valerius | anybody alive? |
| 16:00.31 | javispedro | no |
| 16:01.16 | valerius | installed subverfsion together with libapr and libaprutil -- it segfaults :( |
| 16:01.48 | valerius | tried several older builds -- the same result |
| 16:02.39 | RST38h | javispedro:evening! |
| 16:03.02 | RST38h | javispedro: And may I remind how badly Direct3D sucks? |
| 16:03.06 | valerius | maybeWTF, something is missing from its dependencies an it traps in a missing lib? |
| 16:03.32 | valerius | *maybe |
| 16:03.43 | javispedro | RST38h: to me? No need. |
| 16:04.40 | javispedro | the fun thing is that considering how far GL ES has gone, MS still wants to promote the even more retarded MobileD3D. |
| 16:06.33 | RST38h | javispedro: Obviously |
| 16:06.45 | wmarone_ | how else will they lock you into their platform? |
| 16:07.00 | RST38h | javispedro: There are dozens of people at MS developing it and creating PP presentations showing how it is good for developers and MS domination |
| 16:07.12 | javispedro | wmarone_: with they own language ..... |
| 16:07.15 | javispedro | *their |
| 16:07.19 | wmarone_ | yup |
| 16:07.44 | RST38h | javispedro: The fact that nobody really needs it (except for all the above people) does not mean a thing |
| 16:08.59 | RST38h | (It is not that GLES is free of sin though - once I have seen the mandatory shader declaration with #defines, I almost threw up) |
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| 16:14.10 | valerius | ppl, so, nobody uses a svn client on maemo5? |
| 16:14.30 | neal | use git :) |
| 16:15.14 | valerius | I need access to a svn rep :) |
| 16:17.31 | valerius | what is interesting, some older version worked fine for me, but I updated it and it become broken. Tried to downgrade it, but it still segfaults |
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| 17:09.04 | Macer | HELLO |
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| 18:11.32 | MacDrunk | hello |
| 18:11.36 | MacDrunk | anyone here |
| 18:12.56 | Gh0sty | sorry we're not open today |
| 18:13.21 | Gh0sty | you can reach us by irc every working day between the hours of 8 and 12 and 13 till 17h |
| 18:13.29 | Gh0sty | ;) |
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| 18:14.33 | Juozapas | ;] |
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| 19:39.29 | psychologe | has some body know how to multiboot :power-kernel,nitdroid,nemo,,,i see this thread talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=73146, and do that ,but only can boot Nitdrod and Power-kernel |
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| 20:22.18 | badcloud_ | how to close all apps? |
| 20:23.25 | jazedal | One at a time. |
| 20:23.35 | badcloud_ | jazedal: arg |
| 20:23.44 | badcloud_ | really...? |
| 20:24.18 | badcloud_ | there's gotta be some app that can do it |
| 20:24.21 | jazedal | It might be possible to write a script to close the gui processes, but I don't see a straight forward way to do it. |
| 20:25.08 | jazedal | I've 10 or apps open at once, and I never thought it would be convenient to automatically close them all. |
| 20:25.23 | jazedal | s/10 or/had 10 or so/ |
| 20:25.34 | badcloud_ | you say tomato... |
| 20:25.56 | jazedal | It never takes long to close them all, and I get to make sure I really want to close them. |
| 20:26.34 | badcloud_ | it's just a finger/stylus hassle for something so basic |
| 20:26.59 | badcloud_ | nm |
| 20:27.01 | jazedal | I see. |
| 20:27.18 | jazedal | Ask someone else. |
| 20:27.25 | badcloud_ | I'll scour the seven seas/google some more |
| 20:27.33 | badcloud_ | jazedal: thanks though |
| 20:27.38 | jazedal | No problem. |
| 20:27.46 | badcloud_ | :) |
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| 22:21.57 | kakashi__ | hi, can somebody please share your sources.list |
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| 22:25.51 | StyXman | kakashi__: http://pastebin.lugmen.org.ar/7142 |
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| 22:28.15 | kakashi__ | StyXman: aren't you using cssu? |
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| 22:28.38 | StyXman | not yet, I think |
| 22:28.49 | StyXman | I got my phone a few days ago |
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| 22:29.01 | kakashi__ | aha |
| 22:29.13 | kakashi__ | I am actually looking for the cssu sources |
| 22:32.43 | StyXman | kakashi__: maybe this link? http://wiki.maemo.org/Cssu |
| 22:35.36 | StyXman | kakashi__: opening that page in maemo's browser is enough |
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| 22:48.03 | DocScrutinizer | errr |
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