| 00:00.46 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: can't find any reference of it via Google :/ |
| 00:05.52 | luke-jr | wonders what happens to TMO when Nokia stops paying for maemo.org |
| 00:07.07 | merlin1991 | luke-jr: a fund raiser? :D |
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| 00:09.39 | Macer | lol |
| 00:09.58 | Macer | luke-jr: depends on what nokia wants to do with it |
| 00:10.15 | Macer | either give it to "the community" or keep it and give people the finger :) |
| 00:10.18 | Macer | webos opensource! |
| 00:10.19 | Macer | woo! |
| 00:10.30 | Macer | too bad the n900 hw still isn't open |
| 00:10.38 | Macer | then we could have webos on the n900! |
| 00:10.45 | luke-jr | Macer: Gentoo will get there first :D |
| 00:10.49 | Macer | probably |
| 00:10.51 | Macer | which is sad |
| 00:11.01 | Macer | nokia with their old hardware |
| 00:11.05 | Macer | :) not letting it go to the public |
| 00:11.10 | Macer | actually. it is probably more ti than nokia |
| 00:11.26 | Macer | i am sure a lot of omap4 tech could be found in omap3 |
| 00:11.38 | Macer | so they are being ip bastards |
| 00:11.55 | luke-jr | pretty sure TI has released everything of theirs |
| 00:12.01 | luke-jr | just not PowerVR and Nokia custom crap |
| 00:12.01 | Macer | you think? |
| 00:12.12 | Macer | well.. ther are other things |
| 00:12.15 | Macer | the gps cam etc |
| 00:12.26 | Macer | and of course.. the modem :-P |
| 00:12.35 | luke-jr | cam driver is open, except for firmware |
| 00:12.51 | luke-jr | cam, GPS, modem aren't TI either |
| 00:13.04 | Macer | so nokia is holding out |
| 00:13.07 | Macer | :) |
| 00:13.08 | Macer | bastards |
| 00:13.57 | Macer | nokia probably lic everything else anyways |
| 00:14.02 | Macer | so i'm sure it isn't them alone |
| 00:14.08 | Macer | but if the n900 were wide open that would be nice |
| 00:14.14 | Macer | it will never happen tho.. that isn't being realistic |
| 00:14.23 | Macer | even if the n900 was 10 years old |
| 00:14.41 | Macer | and the reason: because people never want to see open src developers do better than they did when they had it and turn it into something people wanted |
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| 00:15.19 | Macer | wanted/want ;) |
| 00:15.43 | Macer | i can see it now.. an overabundance of n900s shipped from ebay to get this new awesome portable os that nobody knew about until nokia completely opened the hardware |
| 00:17.02 | Macer | living the dream i suppose |
| 00:17.10 | DocScrutinizer | luke-jr: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/search?q=http://www.musicdsp.org/files/Audio-EQ-Cookbook.txt |
| 00:17.18 | DocScrutinizer | MNZ |
| 00:19.06 | DocScrutinizer | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-09-07.log.html#t2010-09-07T00:43:14 |
| 00:20.54 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: broken links :/ |
| 00:21.23 | luke-jr | aha, fixed |
| 00:21.50 | DocScrutinizer | *you* broke them |
| 00:21.57 | luke-jr | drag and drop of them did :P |
| 00:22.18 | DocScrutinizer | s/%23/#/;s/#/%23/ |
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| 02:30.39 | luke-jr | http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/code/0001-Support-for-tlv320aic3x-codec-highpass-filter-needed.patch |
| 02:30.54 | luke-jr | created from https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/ggit/browse.php/?p=aic34-eq;a=summary |
| 02:31.38 | luke-jr | anyone know how to finish it? there's a TODO that says it will only work right at 48kHz right now… :/ |
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| 06:28.38 | mintux | what is last version of maemo ? |
| 06:34.52 | luke-jr | #Harmatta |
| 06:34.53 | luke-jr | #Harmattan |
| 06:35.37 | mintux | is it meego? |
| 06:36.04 | mintux | im in this page http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php |
| 06:39.37 | dm8tbr | mintux: it's maemo, marketing calls it meego |
| 06:39.58 | mintux | hmm means all tools on maemo is active ? |
| 06:40.04 | mintux | where can I download it? |
| 06:40.30 | luke-jr | mintux: it's not available for N900, and you need to prove you own N9 to download |
| 06:40.58 | mintux | hmm so what last version of meamo for n900 |
| 06:41.00 | mintux | ? |
| 06:41.11 | dm8tbr | pr1.3 |
| 06:41.26 | mintux | in wikipedia is 21.2011.38-1 |
| 06:41.46 | mintux | but in download page http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php we have PR 1.3 version 20.2010.36-2 |
| 06:42.36 | mintux | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo |
| 06:43.08 | dm8tbr | that is CSSU what they mention on WP |
| 06:43.20 | dm8tbr | at least I guess it is |
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| 06:43.24 | dm8tbr | no idea |
| 06:44.41 | mintux | means is it good to install or not? |
| 06:46.04 | mintux | is it for test and under develop ? |
| 06:48.22 | luke-jr | mintux: Nokia has left N900 out to die, unfinished |
| 06:49.40 | mintux | it's awful |
| 06:51.49 | mintux | where can I find that image ? |
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| 06:59.54 | villager | dm8tbr: no, it's not cssu... pr1.3.1 was released by nokia, but only really contained a security fix, not much else |
| 07:01.04 | hiemanshu | security fix = removing the compromised certificate which CSSU already did |
| 07:01.40 | villager | yes that fix was also integrated into cssu |
| 07:02.31 | villager | a few days later I think |
| 07:05.39 | villager | or was it just the compatibility with pr1.3.1 that was fixed a few days later? hmm |
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| 07:07.38 | Sicelo | mintux: 21.2011.38-1 is not a flashable image. u flash 20.2010.36.2, the update to the former. it just update 3 or 4 packages |
| 07:07.54 | mintux | hmm |
| 07:08.35 | luke-jr | oh wow |
| 07:08.48 | luke-jr | so it looks like Maemo's udev *does* work without SYSFS_DEPRECATED after all(!) |
| 07:09.01 | mintux | how about nitroid on n900 is it good ? |
| 07:09.06 | luke-jr | mintux: LOL |
| 07:09.12 | mintux | ans stable ? |
| 07:10.48 | Sicelo | not recommended, at least here. highly likely to result in a need to reflash. well, others use it |
| 07:11.14 | mintux | can we have both of them together ? |
| 07:11.56 | Sicelo | u boot one or the other. nitdroid is not chroot like easy debian |
| 07:12.25 | Sicelo | btw, anyone knows how i can check which dns servers my N900 uses? |
| 07:14.14 | Sicelo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:18.16 | villager | Sicelo: it's using dnsmasq I think... which forwards to the active interface's resolv.conf in /var/run |
| 07:18.19 | Sicelo | dnsmasq rather |
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| 07:18.25 | Sicelo | ah, yes :) |
| 07:19.29 | Sicelo | thanks villager. got it |
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| 11:07.53 | vdv | hi all |
| 11:08.13 | andre__ | yo. |
| 11:08.20 | vdv | is there any app to create groups in application menu? or can be that done without any additional app? |
| 11:09.10 | andre__ | Catorise |
| 11:09.20 | andre__ | or read http://wiki.maemo.org/Application_menu :) |
| 11:11.42 | vdv | ahh, good |
| 11:11.46 | vdv | andre__, thanks :) |
| 11:12.59 | andre__ | np |
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| 11:18.52 | vdv | is catorise better than apmefo? |
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| 11:31.53 | vi__ | vdv: they are both shit. |
| 11:32.14 | vi__ | Just create folders using the native xml menu layout thing. |
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| 11:32.53 | godtrunks | Hy, i have a problem with my n900 |
| 11:33.13 | godtrunks | I cannot install or uninstall a program |
| 11:33.21 | godtrunks | What should i do? |
| 11:33.22 | vdv | vi__, ok, thanks :) |
| 11:34.34 | godtrunks | And i have also this error |
| 11:34.37 | godtrunks | /home/user # apt-get remove firefox |
| 11:34.38 | godtrunks | E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. |
| 11:34.50 | godtrunks | What should i do? |
| 11:35.49 | godtrunks | And on that command |
| 11:35.55 | godtrunks | I have this error |
| 11:35.57 | godtrunks | dpkg: unable to open/create status database lockfile: No space left on device |
| 11:36.15 | godtrunks | Can anyone help me? |
| 11:37.11 | neal | apt-cache clean |
| 11:37.21 | neal | if that fails, you can try: rm -rf / |
| 11:37.29 | ekze | :D |
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| 11:38.06 | godtrunks | Not working |
| 11:38.08 | godtrunks | /home/user # apt-cache clean |
| 11:38.09 | godtrunks | E: Invalid operation clean |
| 11:38.59 | neal | I meant apt-get clean |
| 11:39.01 | neal | sorry |
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| 12:16.02 | vdv | after editing hildon.menu how can refresh application menu, so that i saw changes? |
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| 12:20.22 | vi__ | restart hildon-desktop |
| 12:20.25 | vi__ | or somthing |
| 12:20.30 | vi__ | lol, i dunno |
| 12:20.32 | vi__ | reboot |
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| 12:42.06 | drj_cro | hi. i have problem with omweather. it doesn't update anymore from weather.com |
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| 13:07.34 | ruskie | drj_cro, that would be due to weather.com changing things recently |
| 13:07.45 | ruskie | and basically breaking anyone using them as the datasource on any system really |
| 13:07.49 | ruskie | xbmc had the same issue |
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| 13:10.08 | drj_cro | ruskie: thnx |
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| 13:10.33 | ruskie | and from what I gathered they changed the terms of use as well |
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| 14:17.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | dang, gfx core fsckd up? dialer randomly created black rows and cols of keys on pressing a key |
| 14:17.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | rewboot fixed it, but it's annoying anyway, first time I seen this |
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| 16:34.00 | luke-jr | whee, Gentoo booting successful with udev 164 :D |
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| 16:47.14 | FireFly | Am I missing something, or is it impossible to have top bar with hildon-status-menu etc visible while MicroB is in portrait mode? |
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| 16:55.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | RST38h: could I somehow deactivate the global X-closechan button lower left in xchat? |
| 16:56.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | it's a friggin annoyance |
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| 18:00.55 | Pali | Open source tool for cold-flashing RX51 is here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80840 |
| 18:03.25 | luke-jr | Pali: replied |
| 18:04.19 | slonopotamus | nice |
| 18:05.02 | Pali | luke-jr: answer on TMO |
| 18:05.37 | luke-jr | slonopotamus: you don't boot Gentoo N900 yet, right? |
| 18:06.31 | Pali | see my post on TMO: my program has one problem: flasher send 8bytes which is different for other NOLO versions |
| 18:06.45 | Pali | and I do not know how to genreate that 8bytes |
| 18:07.40 | slonopotamus | luke-jr: no plans to |
| 18:07.54 | Pali | ping DocScrutinizer |
| 18:08.33 | Pali | see ^^^^^ |
| 18:12.00 | slonopotamus | luke-jr: we've got one more follower (Domikik Komzik) though i dunno who is it |
| 18:12.05 | slonopotamus | *Dominik |
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| 18:20.37 | luke-jr | w00t, KDE 4.6 running |
| 18:22.16 | slonopotamus | wanna test my arm assembly patch that deals with armv6 cpu cache? :P |
| 18:22.49 | luke-jr | eh? |
| 18:23.18 | slonopotamus | glibc >= 2.12 makes oops on diablo kernel |
| 18:23.45 | luke-jr | slonopotamus: this is N900/fremantle-power |
| 18:23.52 | slonopotamus | meh |
| 18:23.57 | slonopotamus | this is #maemo |
| 18:25.19 | luke-jr | … |
| 18:25.26 | luke-jr | Fremantle is Maemo |
| 18:25.28 | luke-jr | :p |
| 18:26.16 | slonopotamus | maemo is dead. fremantle isn't 100% dead. whence, fremantle isn't maemo. |
| 18:27.21 | slonopotamus | luke-jr: i managed to get banned on #mer :) |
| 18:27.26 | luke-jr | O.o |
| 18:28.07 | jaska | would mer development environment be called merde? |
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| 18:29.12 | luke-jr | … why does KDE netbook mode only allow 1 app at a time |
| 18:29.22 | slonopotamus | luke-jr: stskeeps was very nervous when someone discussed ugliness of obs. |
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| 18:38.45 | kerio | luke-jr: because why would you need more? /s |
| 18:38.57 | kerio | users don't know how to manage apps! |
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| 20:33.29 | Sicelo | hmm, i've asked here a number of times how to use the blue keys for Easy Debian.. such as the numbers |
| 20:34.09 | Sicelo | just now i notice that if i run the applications via `debbie', i have no issues at all |
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| 21:08.55 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: hmm, charger script doesn't want to stop at 100%… any ideas? XD |
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| 21:30.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | luke-jr: what does it do? charge to 120%? |
| 21:32.44 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer51: no, just keeps "CHARGING" at 100% and says not full :/ |
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| 21:33.03 | luke-jr | IIRC, keeping these batteries at 100% constantly damages them |
| 21:33.35 | DocScrutinizer51 | well, that's exactly what bme does though |
| 21:33.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | not though the script |
| 21:34.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | it will eventually finish |
| 21:34.43 | luke-jr | hmm, it's been a few hours already… |
| 21:34.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | unless you constantly consume a lot of power for system |
| 21:35.34 | luke-jr | it's basically idle for now |
| 21:36.04 | pfavr | Is it possible to suppress notification messages (e.g. receiving SMSes)? |
| 21:36.38 | DocScrutinizer51 | hmm, no screen, no wlan, no constant GSM data xfer? no heavy CPU load |
| 21:39.06 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer51: of course wlan is active :P |
| 21:39.32 | luke-jr | pulls the USB cable <.< |
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| 21:43.38 | luke-jr | hmm, I'm assuming it's as efficient as BME… is that wrong? |
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| 21:44.25 | luke-jr | FWIW, off-USB, Intel powertop reports 0.2W (22 hours) |
| 21:44.34 | luke-jr | ~100 wakeups per sec |
| 21:44.46 | luke-jr | with KDE 4.6 running and wifi |
| 21:45.00 | luke-jr | and Konversation for IRC |
| 21:45.04 | luke-jr | with about 50 channels <.< |
| 21:45.42 | StyXman | luke-jr: wow |
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| 21:46.11 | luke-jr | now if only Plasma worked sanely… |
| 21:46.17 | luke-jr | … and ofono |
| 21:46.48 | luke-jr | also need to figure out a touchscreen lock |
| 21:46.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | current drawn from charger chip has to stay under the charge-end threshold for some 15s |
| 21:47.25 | DocScrutinizer51 | themthreshold gets set in charger script and for all I know it's sane |
| 21:47.36 | luke-jr | hmm, I guess I should upgrade to KDE 4.7 |
| 21:47.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | unless you have power spikes every 3 s |
| 21:47.48 | luke-jr | … need an Alt key too |
| 21:48.28 | DocScrutinizer51 | anyway, after some 4h a timeout expire and charging ends no matter what |
| 21:49.07 | luke-jr | 10 hours with screen on, and using it :o |
| 21:49.22 | luke-jr | I didn't get that kind of runtime even with Maemo |
| 21:49.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | other than bme the charge script will resume charging when battery dropped to ~75% |
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| 21:50.18 | luke-jr | sighs at X.org's evdev driver not having any form of right-click emulation… |
| 21:50.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | 10h runtime is way to much power consumption to let charge end get detected |
| 21:51.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | 10h = 130mA, charge-end thrhld is 50mA iirc |
| 21:52.02 | luke-jr | without KDE running: |
| 21:52.03 | luke-jr | Power usage (ACPI estimate): 0.3W (13.3 hours) (long term: 1.2W,/3.4h) |
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| 21:56.39 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer51: any idea why it only drops to 250 MHz rarely even when idle? |
| 21:57.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | cpufreq / governor / rules wrong? |
| 21:58.17 | luke-jr | ondemand 125-600 MHz… :/ |
| 21:59.13 | trumee | is there irc client which works in portrait mode on N900? |
| 22:00.29 | trumee | found out why one handed use is so important after travelling in the tube. |
| 22:01.09 | trumee | luke-jr, using konversation on N900? |
| 22:01.35 | luke-jr | trumee: yes, but not portrait |
| 22:01.45 | luke-jr | in fact, X.org doesn't even seem to SUPPORT portrait.. :o |
| 22:02.20 | trumee | luke-jr, is gentoo running in chroot? |
| 22:02.31 | luke-jr | trumee: fully booted now |
| 22:02.55 | trumee | luke-jr, nice. how well is it performing? |
| 22:03.07 | luke-jr | usable. |
| 22:03.15 | luke-jr | KDE's netbook mode seems buggy though |
| 22:03.21 | luke-jr | so I'm upgrading to 4.7 now |
| 22:03.42 | trumee | luke-jr, cool. did you try kmail/kontact? |
| 22:04.06 | luke-jr | trumee: no, I'm sticking to KMail 1 from KDE 4.4 :p |
| 22:04.16 | luke-jr | until Trojita is mature |
| 22:04.59 | trumee | luke-jr, well i am using whatever gentoo provides. |
| 22:05.18 | luke-jr | KDE supports KMail from 4.4 still |
| 22:05.27 | luke-jr | KMail 4.7 is insane buggy |
| 22:05.44 | luke-jr | it requires MySQL running on the system |
| 22:05.50 | trumee | luke-jr, seems kmail 4.7 cannot import old emails |
| 22:06.16 | trumee | luke-jr, kmail might be too memory hungry on N900 |
| 22:07.09 | trumee | somebody was developing irc client for harmattan. not sure if it ever got ported to N900 |
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| 22:31.32 | DocScrutinizer | luke-jr: when CPU runs at >250MHz all the time, you hardly will see charge-termination |
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