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| 00:22.43 | badcloud_ | hey guys. is there some way to open link in background window in the web browser? |
| 00:26.21 | ShadowJK | closest thing is open in new window |
| 00:26.26 | ShadowJK | then you have to manually switch back |
| 00:27.57 | badcloud_ | ShadowJK: nuts |
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| 01:46.43 | merlin1991 | timeless_xchat: I just found a few mins to look into that stuff, so you suggest we create a source package where someone just has to throw the login line there compile and is all ready? |
| 01:56.35 | timeless_xchat | ideally we create a source package |
| 01:56.44 | timeless_xchat | send it to the builder |
| 01:56.51 | timeless_xchat | people install package |
| 01:57.00 | timeless_xchat | and they use the login line |
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| 01:57.33 | timeless_xchat | merlin1991: assuming i read things correctly |
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| 02:45.07 | Macer | damn. windows media center isn't too bad |
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| 03:36.56 | internetishard | When I try to save something in Notes it defaultly goes to /n900/Documents |
| 03:37.12 | internetishard | when I browse to /home/user/MyDocs/Documents the directory doesn't exist! |
| 03:37.14 | internetishard | what's the deal? |
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| 03:41.45 | robbiethe1st | internetishard, it's actually /home/user/MyDocs/.documents |
| 03:41.52 | internetishard | wow, wtf |
| 03:42.07 | robbiethe1st | See: Nokia Weirdness |
| 03:42.18 | internetishard | sweet. I looked into it because notes stopped saving files to there |
| 03:42.23 | internetishard | It says read only everytime |
| 03:43.02 | internetishard | why is .documents read only, but the subdirs arent? |
| 03:43.06 | internetishard | This happened out of nowhere |
| 03:43.44 | robbiethe1st | Dunno |
| 03:43.48 | robbiethe1st | Check permissions. |
| 03:44.04 | robbiethe1st | i.e. ls -al *path* |
| 03:44.35 | internetishard | everything is -rw-r--r-- |
| 03:44.49 | robbiethe1st | Who's the owner? |
| 03:45.03 | internetishard | and . is drwxrwxrwx |
| 03:45.05 | internetishard | root |
| 03:45.12 | robbiethe1st | And the folders inside? |
| 03:45.22 | internetishard | But I tried to touch a file as root |
| 03:45.39 | robbiethe1st | Also, type 'mount' and check to make sure there is an entry for /home/user/MyDocs |
| 03:46.25 | internetishard | same |
| 03:47.00 | robbiethe1st | See last comment |
| 03:47.50 | internetishard | ah, that's mounted? |
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| 03:48.18 | robbiethe1st | MyDocs is a different partition than the rest |
| 03:48.38 | robbiethe1st | It's the 28GB or so fat32 partition that you see when you hook up to usb |
| 03:48.54 | robbiethe1st | /home/user, on the other hand, is on a 2GB ext3 partition |
| 03:49.18 | internetishard | ah it says /dev/mmblk0p1 on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat |
| 03:49.20 | robbiethe1st | If, for some reason, the MyDocs partition wasn't mounted, your files would disappear |
| 03:49.29 | robbiethe1st | Ok, then it *is* mounted. |
| 03:49.38 | internetishard | yeah, MyDocs is fine |
| 03:49.43 | internetishard | the weirdness starts at .documents |
| 03:50.30 | robbiethe1st | Odd |
| 03:50.42 | internetishard | def. |
| 03:50.42 | robbiethe1st | Try unmounting it and running fsck |
| 03:50.47 | robbiethe1st | google for instructions |
| 03:51.26 | internetishard | umount /media/home/user/MyDocs && fsck /dev/whatever, eh? |
| 03:51.37 | robbiethe1st | More or less |
| 03:52.55 | internetishard | why do they need such long/complex volume names? |
| 03:52.59 | internetishard | use sda!? |
| 03:53.27 | internetishard | nice, it found an error |
| 03:53.34 | internetishard | I'm guessing I can blindly select "fix it"? |
| 03:54.19 | robbiethe1st | Hopefully |
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| 03:55.44 | internetishard | this all might have happened when I dropped it in the toilet |
| 03:55.50 | internetishard | there are a lot of these |
| 03:55.56 | internetishard | how can I select 1 for all? |
| 03:57.04 | robbiethe1st | No clu |
| 03:58.34 | internetishard | there are shit loads of long garbled file names that its reporting |
| 03:58.44 | internetishard | I'm selecting 3: truncate checksum |
| 03:58.50 | internetishard | and 1: fix, for the rest |
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| 04:07.10 | internetishard | wholy christ there are thousands. I just use the -a so it'd auto doing it..... still going |
| 04:07.29 | internetishard | It's on the 6,000th one |
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| 04:10.44 | robbiethe1st | Evidently, things are corrupt. And may be made worse |
| 04:10.51 | robbiethe1st | Hopefully you have backups |
| 04:11.01 | internetishard | 10k... |
| 04:11.14 | internetishard | I hope the backup app covers all of these files |
| 04:11.18 | internetishard | That's what I've used for my backups so far |
| 04:11.44 | internetishard | I did all 4 checkboxes... But it didn't specifically list the dirs where I save stuf |
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| 08:54.46 | psycho_oreos | any of you guys tried JP regdom? |
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| 09:02.49 | arnet | anybody remember old good OS2008? |
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| 09:04.02 | arnet | On my n810 wimax editin I cannot get small onscreen keyboard, only the bii one shows up |
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| 09:10.02 | psycho_oreos | mm I don't have N810 but could it be because you installed international input (such as SCIM for instance) may have broken the vkbd? |
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| 09:10.52 | arnet | hmmm. will check, but I did't |
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| 09:11.45 | psycho_oreos | if not then try tracing back what you did last before you broke it.. I do know installing for instance mscim/qimsys on N900 breaks the vkbd.. so does portrait keyboard such as T9 for instance |
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| 09:12.04 | arnet | cause from the beginning when I used N810 only small keyboard were coming, and with N810W snly the big one shows up |
| 09:12.53 | arnet | Which is a right way to invoke one or other keyboard? |
| 09:13.33 | psycho_oreos | that I wouldn't know personally :| have you tried tmo? |
| 09:14.26 | arnet | not yet |
| 09:15.06 | psycho_oreos | I'd give that a shot as maybe more N8x0 owners may lurk on there more than here :).. it also seems to be a quiet time of the day too (for IRC) |
| 09:15.09 | arnet | I think I just dont know the right ay to change keyboard size |
| 09:15.55 | jaska | *shrug* never use vkbd on my n810 |
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| 09:49.48 | ShadowJK | arnet; iirc it's in settings |
| 09:50.23 | ShadowJK | the defaults are stylus keyboard if you tap with stylus, and finger keyboard (big) if you tap with thumb. |
| 09:50.39 | ShadowJK | the detection stylus/finger only worked first day for me though |
| 09:51.47 | ShadowJK | Jartza; what was wrong with your N900? |
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| 09:53.45 | ruskie | is still happy to say he never saw the on screen keyboard on the N900 |
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| 09:56.59 | psycho_oreos | heh with N9 you have no choice but to use vkbd :D |
| 09:57.22 | jaska | which is why i will never have a n9 :) |
| 10:00.27 | psycho_oreos | I've been trying to convince myself that I'll never will want a N9.. truth be told that no matter how hard I try to ignore the N9, its still there in the brochures mocking me psychologically |
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| 10:06.58 | Chiku | hum gps not working :( someone got some problem ? |
| 10:07.34 | ShadowJK | it was working yesterday for me |
| 10:07.58 | Chiku | N900 ? |
| 10:08.57 | psycho_oreos | change your SUPL server to google instead of nokia |
| 10:10.17 | Chiku | so supl.google.com ? |
| 10:10.51 | jiero | psycho_oreos: will you attend the barcamp tomorrow? |
| 10:11.03 | jiero | lol |
| 10:11.06 | jiero | soz... |
| 10:11.12 | jiero | i got wrong person |
| 10:11.41 | psycho_oreos | Chiku, yes |
| 10:14.02 | Chiku | thank psycho_oreos |
| 10:14.12 | Chiku | do you use ovi maps ? |
| 10:14.32 | Chiku | hum I don't see the red dot on ovi maps |
| 10:15.11 | psycho_oreos | Chiku, every now and then, my ovi maps setup is screwed up right now however |
| 10:15.57 | Chiku | what happened to supl.nokia.com ? |
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| 10:17.20 | psycho_oreos | its not reliable, period |
| 10:18.00 | psycho_oreos | and this isn't official nokia support, if you want official nokia support you might want to try their own forums... something like nokia forums or whatever |
| 10:20.48 | ShadowJK | it was working without supl, at all, yesterday for me |
| 10:22.10 | chem|st | Chiku: you are better off with something like mappero |
| 10:23.32 | chem|st | ShadowJK: back when all where complaining I had to say WFM, it did get a fix within minutes without network and in seconds with... |
| 10:24.00 | chem|st | Chiku: change the supl if it need be |
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| 10:24.39 | Chiku | ok let's try it |
| 10:25.13 | Chiku | without gps hardware ? how does it work? |
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| 10:25.24 | psycho_oreos | it has its own internal GPS |
| 10:26.19 | psycho_oreos | I can tell you without internal GPS being used to get the initial lock, there's almost zero chance of getting a lock under a roof of a solid house with no wifi, GSM or bluetooth connectivity |
| 10:26.49 | psycho_oreos | now it probably wouldn't even matter if you changed the SUPL server back to nokia after getting the initial lock with google |
| 10:28.47 | chem|st | psycho_oreos: it doesn't matter |
| 10:29.21 | chem|st | once you got a fix you got the right caches |
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| 10:29.41 | psycho_oreos | chem|st, *sigh* and my point was? |
| 10:30.10 | chem|st | problem here on 3G is, the antenna is 300km away in supl.nokia.com^^ |
| 10:30.18 | psycho_oreos | <psycho_oreos> now it probably wouldn't even matter if you changed the SUPL server back to nokia after getting the initial lock with google |
| 10:31.14 | chem|st | psycho_oreos: read again ;) "probably wouldn't even matter" and "doesn't matter" |
| 10:31.54 | chem|st | I was confirming your idea |
| 10:31.55 | psycho_oreos | chem|st, more like you were initially disagreeing but whatever |
| 10:32.24 | chem|st | I shoudl have written a proper sentence sry |
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| 10:34.14 | dangergrrl | the drivers from madde do not work for usbnet in win7 :( |
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| 10:34.28 | dangergrrl | (for me) |
| 10:34.34 | psycho_oreos | ... so use linux under vm.. win! |
| 10:35.39 | dangergrrl | i'll have a "real" usb wifi in a couple of days |
| 10:36.23 | dangergrrl | but needless to say, in the meantime linux is much more fun than win since my nets work |
| 10:36.31 | Jartza | ShadowJK: the usb plug came out, the usual :) |
| 10:36.56 | dangergrrl | ua there a remedy for worn out usb plug on n900? |
| 10:37.03 | dangergrrl | is |
| 10:37.36 | dangergrrl | i have to wrap the usb cable around it to get contact |
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| 10:38.41 | psycho_oreos | yeah, get it re-soldered before it actually falls out |
| 10:38.42 | chem|st | I am not really gentle with my device and have no problems... what are you guys doing with your usb cords while plugged in? |
| 10:39.00 | chem|st | hunt down cattle? |
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| 10:39.29 | dangergrrl | i am using my n900 as a router |
| 10:39.50 | Sicelo | lol chem|st :P |
| 10:39.52 | chem|st | so it is laying untouched somewhere? |
| 10:40.07 | dangergrrl | hardly |
| 10:40.13 | chem|st | elab. |
| 10:40.38 | dangergrrl | i have to poke on it pretty often to check if the wifi came up, crappy motel wifi |
| 10:41.15 | jiero | dangergrrl: how? using usb hotspot the application? |
| 10:41.18 | Gh0sty | dangergrrl: you use it as wifi router? |
| 10:41.22 | chem|st | so what? my device is hanging off my desk while charging... |
| 10:41.24 | Gh0sty | or just use it over usb? |
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| 10:41.41 | dangergrrl | use it as usb<->wifi router |
| 10:41.45 | Gh0sty | I usually connect it to my laptop over usb and route 3g like that :P |
| 10:41.46 | dangergrrl | it works |
| 10:41.47 | dangergrrl | kinda |
| 10:42.08 | dangergrrl | no gsm signal where i live |
| 10:42.11 | chem|st | dangergrrl: usb - wifi? are you seriouse?! |
| 10:42.18 | jiero | chem|st: yeah |
| 10:42.19 | Gh0sty | you live in the middle of nowhere :P |
| 10:42.24 | Gh0sty | chem|st: why not? :/ |
| 10:42.31 | jiero | chem|st: people do that, but I never success |
| 10:42.44 | dangergrrl | my site is upgrading to a T1 in a couple of weeks |
| 10:42.49 | Gh0sty | did it too like I said: connect to 3G with my n900 and connect it as network device over usb to my laptop |
| 10:42.56 | ShadowJK | I suspect the usb detaches sooner if you always unplug/plug it at an angle, or move it left/right or up/down when unplugging instead of straight out and in |
| 10:43.00 | Gh0sty | setup ip forwarding and done :) |
| 10:43.00 | chem|st | Gh0sty: all devices I hav which need internet have wifi or are that heavy that I do not take them with me in a motel |
| 10:43.25 | dangergrrl | i think we are stuck with carrier pigeons until then |
| 10:44.25 | dangergrrl | this device is quite heavy |
| 10:44.34 | psycho_oreos | if the N900 was dropped onto a relatively hard surface whilst the USB plug is plugged in and it happens to hit on the connector bit, it can either break or weaken the connectors |
| 10:44.39 | dangergrrl | full tower pc |
| 10:44.40 | chem|st | "this device"? |
| 10:44.43 | dangergrrl | i live in the motel |
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| 10:45.00 | Gh0sty | woow living in a motel :o |
| 10:45.01 | chem|st | ah |
| 10:45.09 | chem|st | that explains |
| 10:45.27 | chem|st | how about a $5 usb wifi? |
| 10:45.37 | dangergrrl | $750/mo pays all bills |
| 10:46.02 | dangergrrl | i ordered the $40 alfa 2000mw one |
| 10:46.11 | dangergrrl | be here by wednesday |
| 10:46.32 | ShadowJK | used to rent a singleroom(+bath) for $250 a month, electricity,heat,water included |
| 10:46.33 | dangergrrl | 9dbi antenna |
| 10:46.42 | chem|st | 2000mw?! with that power I could support wifi to ahlf of my city.... |
| 10:46.56 | dangergrrl | ShadowJK, not in boulder county coloradp :P |
| 10:47.04 | psycho_oreos | that's the theoretical maximum TX power |
| 10:47.05 | ShadowJK | chem|st; only if you could hear the distant stations |
| 10:47.07 | dangergrrl | -p+o |
| 10:47.36 | chem|st | ShadowJK: well would use the highest building and put it on top... |
| 10:47.41 | psycho_oreos | alfa devices are not fitted with preamp RX, only for TX are they fitted with a preamp |
| 10:47.44 | dangergrrl | it is really pretty here |
| 10:48.29 | dangergrrl | http://stonemountainlodge.com/ |
| 10:49.03 | dangergrrl | but it's a tiny place in the edge of the mountains |
| 10:49.43 | dangergrrl | psycho_oreos, has to have more power than i am getting with the n900 |
| 10:50.30 | dangergrrl | i have to check for sunspot activity before i go online now |
| 10:50.40 | psycho_oreos | dangergrrl, in theory it probably would but its not like you can make full use of the TX power if your windows has those stupid regulatory settings enforcd |
| 10:50.47 | psycho_oreos | s/enforcd/enforced/ |
| 10:51.36 | psycho_oreos | and again you can't really compare a directional wireless setup with an omni directional antenna setup.. it really varies A LOT |
| 10:53.09 | dangergrrl | so, could i run gentoo on my n900? :P |
| 10:53.28 | ShadowJK | luke does it |
| 10:53.35 | dangergrrl | it is a lark btw |
| 10:53.58 | psycho_oreos | there's another bloke that runs gentoo on N900 as well, I can't quite remember his handle, definitely starts with s |
| 10:54.19 | psycho_oreos | slonopotamus or something |
| 10:54.51 | dangergrrl | anyhow getting some connectivity in windows will be a plus, uninterrupted nets in linux would be win |
| 10:56.57 | psycho_oreos | for the latter part, it might be theoretically possible with some scripts being placed on crontab |
| 10:57.19 | Gh0sty | woow $750 or $250 is cheap |
| 10:57.21 | jiero | why not...just why the Raspberry Pi run everything, 1080P... want to make netbook on it. |
| 10:57.25 | Gh0sty | I pay 700 eur! :( |
| 10:58.14 | jiero | Even Gamemaker is porting their platform for Raspberry Pi... |
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| 11:00.27 | dangergrrl | Gh0sty, i just have a small room in the colorado foothills |
| 11:01.06 | dangergrrl | closest town is 2 miles, population 2000 including me |
| 11:02.45 | mihu | Hi. I'm playing around with a spare N900. I am logged in via ssh and sometimes when I shut down system services etc. it happens that the device reboots. Where is that watchdog functionality implemented and how can I keep the N900 from resetting? |
| 11:02.58 | ShadowJK | dsme |
| 11:03.10 | Gh0sty | google maps colorado foothills |
| 11:03.24 | ShadowJK | there's also a hardware watchdog, which hard resets device if software stops poking it |
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| 11:03.52 | mihu | ShadowJK: That means if I disable the service via dsmetool then it should be safe and no reboot should happen, right? Which software is poking the hardware watchdog? |
| 11:04.31 | dangergrrl | Gh0sty, i am on the funtoo usermap |
| 11:04.35 | ShadowJK | in Diablo it was called kicker |
| 11:04.39 | ShadowJK | not sure about fremantle |
| 11:04.49 | dangergrrl | i think within like 50ft |
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| 11:05.17 | mihu | ShadowJK: Ideally, I want to shutdown the whole graphical user interface. |
| 11:05.24 | dangergrrl | you know the n900 reboots at random when used as a router :( |
| 11:06.36 | ShadowJK | vaguely remembers mobile hotspot people encountered a few kernel oops |
| 11:07.05 | psycho_oreos | its not a true wifi hotspot mode, its more like adhoc |
| 11:07.17 | ShadowJK | sure |
| 11:07.49 | Gh0sty | cool between the mountains :) |
| 11:08.26 | Gh0sty | looking with google streetview I see here a sign "Stone mountain" |
| 11:13.45 | dangergrrl | it's amazingly beautiful when there is snow in the morning |
| 11:14.40 | MohammadAG | <mihu> ShadowJK: That means if I disable the service via dsmetool then it should be safe and no reboot should happen, right? Which software is poking the hardware watchdog? |
| 11:14.41 | MohammadAG | yes |
| 11:14.49 | MohammadAG | dsmetool requests the reboot |
| 11:16.00 | Gh0sty | dangergrrl: is it possible to ski there? :p |
| 11:16.10 | Gh0sty | not a big fan of snow though :) |
| 11:16.17 | Gh0sty | to look at ... yes |
| 11:16.22 | Gh0sty | to go to work through it ... no :P |
| 11:16.39 | mihu | MohammadAG: Thanks. Is there a way to disable dsmetool or the daemon in the background completely? |
| 11:16.39 | dangergrrl | right here? probably not, a few hundred feet up, yes |
| 11:17.16 | dangergrrl | we don't get much snow, ot is high plains desert |
| 11:17.19 | MohammadAG | R&D mode |
| 11:17.45 | MohammadAG | flasher-3.5 --enable-rd-mode --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset |
| 11:17.46 | Gh0sty | whats temperatures there like right now? |
| 11:17.54 | Gh0sty | (i have no idea about climate in the US) |
| 11:18.39 | dangergrrl | the deep snow is in oregon and washington |
| 11:19.05 | Gh0sty | yeah heard about that |
| 11:19.20 | Gh0sty | probably have to go for work in the surroundings of washington in jan / feb |
| 11:19.24 | Gh0sty | that'll be fun ... :p |
| 11:20.07 | dangergrrl | redmond is cool and damp then |
| 11:20.17 | dangergrrl | like 5C and rain |
| 11:20.27 | Gh0sty | only been once to the us ... NY and boston end of may |
| 11:20.43 | Gh0sty | was pretty nice, not too hot |
| 11:21.10 | mihu | MohammadAG: Thanks. I found http://wiki.maemo.org/R%26D_mode which explains this nicely as well. Ultimately, I want to hook some custom hardware the uSD slot of the N900. For development purposes, I want to unmount /home. Otherwise I cannot enable MMC debugging in the kernel because every access to /home will flood my debug output. Do you think this is achievable? |
| 11:21.54 | MohammadAG | I'm not sure if you can do that |
| 11:22.13 | MohammadAG | /opt lives under /home |
| 11:22.18 | MohammadAG | that has system themes/fonts etc |
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| 11:23.09 | MohammadAG | you can probably edit the rootfs.jffs2 image to remove the script that moves items from / to /opt on first boot |
| 11:23.24 | MohammadAG | then reflash that image |
| 11:23.32 | MohammadAG | and then you can probably unmount /home |
| 11:23.38 | dangergrrl | can you lock things in RAM and guarantee hard real time? |
| 11:23.54 | MohammadAG | or just force umount and hope for the best |
| 11:24.10 | MohammadAG | I forced a unmount of / once |
| 11:24.19 | MohammadAG | system worked well till I closed an app |
| 11:24.29 | mihu | MohammadAG: With "first boot" do you mean reboot or really the first boot of a fresh system? |
| 11:24.37 | MohammadAG | latter |
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| 11:25.05 | MohammadAG | from PR1.2 onwards, there's a script that moves and symlinks system files |
| 11:25.53 | psycho_oreos | optification? |
| 11:26.22 | MohammadAG | maemo-optify-runounce is the name I think |
| 11:26.22 | MohammadAG | lemme check |
| 11:26.52 | mihu | Or can I just move back /home/opt/ to / now? |
| 11:27.15 | MohammadAG | well, yeah, you can probably do tha |
| 11:27.36 | MohammadAG | sec |
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| 11:28.33 | MohammadAG | http://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/maemo-optify-boottime/blobs/501fbd29545a41d9e89e7728474c8e19994db4ed/maemo-optify-runonce.sh |
| 11:28.35 | MohammadAG | that's the script |
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| 11:33.02 | mihu | MohammadAG: Hm, these Qt libraries in /opt/lib are huge. |
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| 11:34.03 | MohammadAG | ask yourself |
| 11:34.03 | MohammadAG | do you need Qt libraries while debugging? |
| 11:34.52 | mihu | MohammadAG: Will a stock PR1.3 system come up without them? |
| 11:35.00 | psycho_oreos | any of you guys played with JP regdom? |
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| 11:39.34 | mihu | MohammadAG: Perhaps it's easier if I just compile in g_ether into the kernel and then let the device boot from a NFS root. |
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| 11:44.24 | MohammadAG | mihu, yes, it should |
| 11:44.24 | MohammadAG | Qt libraries aren't used in the main UI framework or during boot up |
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| 11:45.21 | Sicelo | no. not them.. works |
| 11:45.43 | Sicelo | hmm, wrong window. apologies |
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| 11:50.27 | mihu | MohammadAG: I don't want to change the system too much, because after initial bring-up, I want to go back to it. So I will try rootfs via NFS first. |
| 11:53.15 | vi_ | psycho_oreos: it is not real JP REG DOM...no channel 14. |
| 11:57.17 | psycho_oreos | vi_, and heh it seems to make my N900 reboot when associated to my AP for a few moments |
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| 12:05.34 | vi_ | psycho_oreos: just set it to europran reg dom. It is the same. |
| 12:05.42 | vi_ | ^european |
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| 12:06.50 | psycho_oreos | vi_, yeah its set to EU by default |
| 12:07.04 | psycho_oreos | I was merely testing JP for curious purposes |
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| 12:08.57 | vi__ | on most AP it allows use of channel 14. JP being the only country in the world to allow it. |
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| 12:09.45 | vi__ | The benefit of 14 is it is a whole 2 channel widths away from 13 (instead of the usual 1) meaning there is less interferance from neighbouring channels. |
| 12:09.49 | psycho_oreos | you meant they forbade the use of channel 14 :) |
| 12:10.22 | psycho_oreos | well JP does allow the use of channel 14, which is true, but yes I was tinkering around with regdom following knownokia.ca site |
| 12:10.38 | vi__ | also people outside JP generally dont have it in use meaning you have a whole channel to yourself with no side interferance. |
| 12:10.50 | vi__ | ah, hawaii's blog |
| 12:11.00 | vi__ | there is some good shit on there. |
| 12:11.41 | psycho_oreos | yup :) |
| 12:11.59 | psycho_oreos | hawaii's blog? I didn't know that belonged to him |
| 12:12.23 | ShadowJK | i thought even in jp, only 11b was allowed on 14 |
| 12:12.42 | vi__ | ShadowJK: perhaps. |
| 12:13.09 | vi__ | ShadowJK: perhaps that is why only upto 13 is available on n900 with jp reg dom. |
| 12:13.21 | vi__ | as it is in mixed mode by default. |
| 12:13.37 | vi__ | we need somone to investigate... |
| 12:13.42 | vi__ | psycho_oreos: I choose you! |
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| 12:15.55 | psycho_oreos | lol why me? :þ I got enough projects as it is |
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| 12:17.08 | vi__ | I was only choosing. like a blastoise. |
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| 12:43.22 | mihu | MohammadAG: Do you know what the sti-console flag does in R&D mode? I could not find an explanation. |
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| 12:54.07 | MohammadAG | mihu, serial console |
| 12:55.00 | mihu | MohammadAG: there is another flag called serial-console. Do you know the difference? |
| 12:55.18 | mihu | MohammadAG: I want to connect to the serial port below the battery. |
| 12:56.02 | MohammadAG | hmm, no idea then |
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| 12:56.04 | MohammadAG | ask jacekowski |
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| 13:18.09 | mihu | MohammadAG: Ok, thanks. Not so important now. Hm, my system keeps bind-mounting /home/opt/ to /opt. fstab is "autogenerated". Do you know how the bind-mounting is done on boot and where? I haven't found it yet. |
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| 13:20.01 | MohammadAG | any reversing experts? |
| 13:20.03 | MohammadAG | mihu, check /etc/rcS* |
| 13:20.16 | MohammadAG | I have a wireshark capture |
| 13:20.29 | MohammadAG | of whatsapp logging in, not sure I can figure it all out |
| 13:21.28 | jonwil | I think it would be easier to reverse engineer the binary than to try and figure it out from the network protocol |
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| 13:22.12 | mihu | MohammadAG: Found it. It wasn't in /etc/rcS, but /usr/lib/genfstab.awk creates it. |
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| 13:22.36 | MohammadAG | jonwil, want the binary? :P |
| 13:22.56 | jonwil | for which platform? I think the Android APK is the easiest to reverse engineer |
| 13:23.46 | MohammadAG | I have that |
| 13:23.59 | MohammadAG | but the .java files are compiled into dex(?) |
| 13:24.18 | jonwil | there are decompilers for that |
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| 13:26.35 | jonwil | currently running the apk file from their website through http://www.apkdecompile.com/ |
| 13:26.39 | jonwil | see what comes out |
| 13:28.03 | jonwil | if only there was an easy way to figure out the encrypted osso-backup format... |
| 13:29.56 | MohammadAG | cool |
| 13:29.56 | MohammadAG | the only thing I know is usernames are phonenumber@whatsapp.com |
| 13:29.56 | MohammadAG | mine is 97254.......@whatsapp.com |
| 13:30.45 | jonwil | ok, its decompiled |
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| 13:33.12 | jonwil | hmmm, its too obfusicated to be of help |
| 13:33.15 | jonwil | which is what I suspected |
| 13:35.50 | chem|st | are you guys trying to get msg to whatsapp from outside or implement a client for maemo? |
| 13:36.18 | chem|st | the license note keeps me telling people to not use it |
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| 14:08.06 | badcloud_ | hey guys. anyone know where flash vids reside on rootfs when being played via MicroB? I looked in /tmp and 'ps aux|grep flash' ('/proc/#/fd/Flashxx' trick) and both came up empty |
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| 14:17.42 | MohammadAG | jonwil, so? :P |
| 14:17.52 | MohammadAG | want the iOS binary? |
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| 14:21.35 | jonwil | noper |
| 14:21.37 | jonwil | that wont help |
| 14:21.42 | jonwil | I know nothing about ios |
| 14:22.04 | MohammadAG | it's OBJ-C |
| 14:22.19 | jonwil | I know nothing about objective C either |
| 14:22.26 | MohammadAG | it's a superset of C |
| 14:22.46 | jonwil | None of the tools I have are any use at reverse engineering IOS binaries |
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| 14:24.13 | jonwil | and I have no real interest in that WhatsApp crap anyway :P |
| 14:24.40 | MohammadAG | XMPP/AsyncSocket.m |
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| 14:32.01 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:32.10 | MohammadAG | gonna try looking at the android config/data files |
| 14:32.23 | jonwil | Might have another crack at the osso-backup format |
| 14:32.23 | merlin1991 | okay odd situatuation, my sister claims her n900 suddenly started to ask for lock code, best way to recover? |
| 14:33.21 | MohammadAG | suddenly? |
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| 14:33.47 | MohammadAG | like, when she's using it it asks for a lock code, or was the code request interval set to off and it still asked for a lock code? |
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| 14:34.19 | merlin1991 | as in there never was a lockcode, she laid it aside and when unlocking the screen as usually it asked for one |
| 14:34.19 | MohammadAG | if it's the former, it's probably mce segfaulting/restarting for some reason |
| 14:34.20 | MohammadAG | ask her if the keyboard lights flicker right before it asks for the code |
| 14:34.30 | MohammadAG | 12345? |
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| 14:34.50 | MohammadAG | does it have ssh? if so, fire an unlock signal |
| 14:35.07 | merlin1991 | afaik it doesn't |
| 14:35.17 | merlin1991 | what would the unlock signal be? oO |
| 14:35.27 | MohammadAG | some dbus line |
| 14:35.28 | MohammadAG | sec |
| 14:36.23 | MohammadAG | dbus-send --print-reply --system --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.system_ui /com/nokia/system_ui/request com.nokia.system_ui.request.devlock_close string:'com.nokia.mce' string:'/com/nokia/mce/request' string:'com.nokia.mce.request' string:'devlock_callback' uint32:'0' |
| 14:36.34 | MohammadAG | the reason Aegis's mce::devLock cap is denied |
| 14:37.13 | ketas | damn i want n900 myself |
| 14:37.23 | merlin1991 | well no ssh, and 12345 isn't working either |
| 14:37.46 | MohammadAG | string the mtd block? |
| 14:37.56 | merlin1991 | yep, but how? |
| 14:38.08 | merlin1991 | since it ofc asks for lock code on bootup |
| 14:38.09 | MohammadAG | MeeGo rescue initrd |
| 14:38.14 | merlin1991 | okay |
| 14:38.18 | merlin1991 | this is going to be fun :D |
| 14:38.25 | MohammadAG | just an FYI |
| 14:38.28 | MohammadAG | make sure there's no ssh |
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| 14:38.37 | MohammadAG | since once you reboot, you're not going to have wifi |
| 14:38.49 | merlin1991 | don't have wifi anyway |
| 14:38.50 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 14:38.53 | MohammadAG | lol |
| 14:38.59 | MohammadAG | oh and another thing |
| 14:39.09 | MohammadAG | if you can get hildon-desktop to crash the lock code dialog won't be modal anymore |
| 14:39.29 | merlin1991 | router here sucks ass, so need to disable power save in order to have proper wireless |
| 14:39.43 | merlin1991 | so don't have it on autoconnect |
| 14:39.55 | merlin1991 | well I'll have to try the meego rescue initrd |
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| 14:42.35 | MohammadAG | if that doesn't work meego will for sure |
| 14:42.35 | MohammadAG | just hope the cal parition isn't corrupt |
| 14:43.18 | javispedro | is there a fiasco for the latest n900 pr btw? |
| 14:44.45 | Macer | does meego work on an n900 |
| 14:45.07 | MohammadAG | javispedro, yes, on navifirm |
| 14:45.12 | javispedro | hrmpf |
| 14:45.16 | MohammadAG | I'm not sure if X-Fade can add it under tablets-dev |
| 14:45.43 | merlin1991 | javispedro: why do you need a fiasco for the latest n900pr? |
| 14:45.49 | merlin1991 | it's 4 packages to update |
| 14:45.55 | merlin1991 | like 5 mb or something |
| 14:46.03 | javispedro | fiasco images are prelinked |
| 14:46.14 | javispedro | (or at least, that's what they told me...) |
| 14:46.27 | merlin1991 | "prelinked" ? |
| 14:46.34 | javispedro | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prelink |
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| 14:49.05 | MohammadAG | so you'll have the maemo certificates applet start faster, big whoop :p |
| 14:49.07 | javispedro | note that at most it will provide a subsecond enhacement on a very limited set of binaries, so it's not usually worth it, but since I'm reflashing |
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| 14:49.28 | javispedro | MohammadAG: and the browser! =) |
| 14:49.52 | MohammadAG | why? |
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| 14:50.25 | javispedro | it probably links with certman |
| 14:52.52 | MohammadAG | nah |
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| 14:57.46 | mihu | MohammadAG: Finally I was successful. I moved /home/opt to /opt2 and /home/user to /home2/user and mount-binded these together. After modifying usr/lib/genfstab.awk and especially /etc/event.d/rcS-late, all partitions from eMMC can be unmounted after boot. The MMC driver and subsystem can be unloaded. Thank you very much for your help. |
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| 15:06.49 | MohammadAG | mihu, you're welcome :D |
| 15:07.01 | MohammadAG | jonwil, phonenumber@s.whatsapp.com |
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| 15:18.21 | timeless_xchat | hi merlin1991 |
| 15:26.59 | merlin1991 | timeless_xchat: I'll look into it today |
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| 15:45.11 | uros1 | after update speedpatch and battery patch today i was unable to change clock of CPU locked on 500 mhz. Any fix |
| 15:45.15 | uros1 | please |
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| 16:28.41 | DocScrutinizer51 | timeless_xchat: long time no see |
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| 16:45.20 | badcloud_ | hey guys |
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| 16:46.21 | badcloud_ | broken record here, anyone know where flash files are hidden on rootfs while being played by MicroB? |
| 16:47.09 | javispedro | funny, the n950 never showed the name of my carrier, but the n900 does |
| 16:47.18 | javispedro | (both showed the name of my old carrier) |
| 16:47.45 | javispedro | ah... so nice to use a resistive screen again |
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| 16:58.16 | javispedro | cannot really believe that on the n900 ovi store the word "beta" still appears. |
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| 17:12.09 | MohammadAG | poor javispedro |
| 17:12.34 | MohammadAG | Harmattan withdrawal symptoms, they caused me to buy an iDevice, or two |
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| 17:58.06 | scoobertron | Can I change the outline/border color of desktop command execution widgets? I have noticed that it changes as I change the theme, but I am not sure how to change it on its own. |
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| 18:16.27 | DocScrutinizer | ([2011-12-09 16:45:11] <uros1> after update speedpatch and battery patch today...) aren't that those considered-placebo-with-a-bit-of-toxic-shit voodoo-based N900 "improvement" packages? |
| 18:18.09 | uros1 | DocScrutinizer: :) |
| 18:19.01 | uros1 | placebo? nice definition |
| 18:19.34 | DocScrutinizer | well, I tried hard not to sound too offensive |
| 18:20.01 | DocScrutinizer | my private definition of those is using more harsh terms |
| 18:20.12 | uros1 | well this is new light on this issue |
| 18:22.03 | uros1 | A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept. |
| 18:22.40 | DocScrutinizer | scoobertron: not sure about dcew, but in queenBeecon you can configure each single pixel, for each minute of the day ;-D |
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| 19:45.25 | jiero | Seriously, Web OS is going to be Open Source Community project! http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2011/111209xa.html? |
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| 20:29.56 | wh86 | hello everyone! greetings from brasil |
| 20:31.17 | wh86 | i'm new with my n900 but i saw a thousand good stuffs to do with it, so i´d like some help to start it from zero and help everyone who needs help and i can do tests for you guys cause i love to do it |
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| 20:32.00 | RaeCarruth | hey all |
| 20:32.30 | wh86 | welcome #raecarruth |
| 20:32.58 | RaeCarruth | thanks |
| 20:33.20 | wh86 | i am new here and would like to join to this maemo testing |
| 20:33.41 | RaeCarruth | you mean the repository? |
| 20:34.18 | wh86 | no sorry, i´d like to join in testing stuffs, apps and more you know;? |
| 20:34.28 | RaeCarruth | ah |
| 20:34.39 | RaeCarruth | iunno anything about that |
| 20:34.45 | Sicelo | wh86: u may want to join #maemo-ssu, read up on the /topic , and choose your flavor :) |
| 20:34.46 | wh86 | to developers news, i can test it without fear |
| 20:35.06 | wh86 | Thanks #Sicelo |
| 20:35.45 | wh86 | even if i am new with linux and n900? |
| 20:36.49 | Sicelo | well, linux would help, but that's not bad. u can learn as u go :) |
| 20:37.04 | jiero | wh86: find your path to learn whatever you need, nothing tagged "have-to" if you want nothing. |
| 20:38.41 | wh86 | thanks again Sicelo, i'm gonna check it out and start to do tutorials for newbies is that fine? |
| 20:39.13 | RaeCarruth | guys, is there a plugin or a means of creating one conversation stream per contact regardless of whether it's a cell number/gtalk/skype? |
| 20:39.53 | Sicelo | yw. check out wiki.maemo.org .. good stuff for beginners, intermediate and more experienced users. |
| 20:40.12 | Sicelo | wh86: i learned at lesat 80% of my linux right here :) |
| 20:41.49 | wh86 | wow , so i´ll make the video tutorials and then i put the links here if it is possible (sorry for my english, i am brazilian, not usually type in english, more conversation) |
| 20:42.27 | Sicelo | nice. i'm african |
| 20:42.43 | RaeCarruth | where in africa Sicelo? |
| 20:42.53 | Sicelo | RaeCarruth: i dunno. none that i've heard of |
| 20:43.03 | Sicelo | Swaziland :) |
| 20:43.09 | RaeCarruth | nice |
| 20:43.33 | wh86 | good! so we could keep an easy talk |
| 20:43.33 | Sicelo | u know it? (not many do, heh) |
| 20:43.51 | RaeCarruth | surrounded by SA |
| 20:44.17 | Sicelo | indeed, and Mozambique towards the east |
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| 20:53.28 | user___ | lol |
| 20:54.21 | Sicelo | heh, what's up? |
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| 20:55.06 | user___ | hello |
| 20:55.20 | Sicelo | lol? |
| 20:55.29 | user___ | Yar |
| 20:55.43 | user___ | I amwriting an espeak to irc |
| 20:55.43 | Sicelo | heh |
| 20:55.57 | nox- | haha |
| 20:55.58 | user___ | irc to espeak actually |
| 20:56.06 | nox- | *nod* |
| 20:56.22 | user___ | it uses your user name to generate a unique voice. |
| 20:56.49 | user___ | so the irc conversation is spoken in different, yet consistent voices |
| 20:57.03 | nox- | heh i didnt even know it could do that... |
| 20:57.07 | user___ | you sound like a woman. |
| 20:57.12 | nox- | hahaha |
| 20:57.44 | user___ | you can pipe any old shite from stdout to espeak. |
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| 20:59.08 | nox- | yeah and how do you change the voice? |
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| 20:59.50 | user___ | hello |
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| 21:00.55 | user___ | lol |
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| 21:01.55 | user___ | lol |
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| 21:04.37 | NIN101 | user___: Why do you use this channel to test? |
| 21:05.03 | NIN101 | it's kinda annoying . |
| 21:05.35 | user___ | sorry bro, i will stop interrupting your precious silence. |
| 21:07.48 | kerio | user___: hey, fu |
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| 21:31.45 | Macer | lol |
| 21:31.48 | Macer | If a particular program or Windows 7 experience requires a higher score than your base score, you can upgrade your hardware to meet the necessary base score. |
| 21:31.55 | Macer | i wonder how much they paid MS for that one :) |
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| 21:43.22 | chem|st | Macer: especially as I cannot get higher scores... my 8core 48GBram nvidia quadro6000 workstation with lowlatency HDD has the same score as my gaming pc... |
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| 21:55.30 | Macer | lol |
| 21:55.45 | Macer | all my scores were about 6.9 .. but the hard drive is 5.6 |
| 21:55.52 | Macer | so according to MS i can't play 3d games ;) |
| 21:56.12 | Macer | A computer with a base score of 6.0 or 7.0 has a faster hard disk, and can support high-end, graphics-intensive experiences, such as multiplayer and 3.D gaming and recording and playback of HDTV content |
| 21:56.21 | Macer | oh yeah. can't play high def videos either ;) |
| 21:57.06 | nox- | does ms actually forbid doing these things then or is that score just `adivsory'? |
| 21:57.32 | Macer | advisory ;) |
| 21:57.41 | Macer | but i swear they need to fire whoever writes this stuff |
| 21:57.52 | nox- | marketing.... |
| 21:58.04 | Macer | oh of course |
| 21:58.15 | Macer | but my 5.6 scored hard drive plays rage just fine ;) |
| 21:58.28 | Macer | i think the nvidia gt 240 is probably a little more important than hard drive speed |
| 21:58.54 | nox- | same silliness as why most notbooks come with glossy screens, marketing said `it looks better in the shops'... |
| 21:58.58 | Macer | which really isn't that strong of a card anymore but can still hold its own.. especially with cuda |
| 21:59.04 | frals | for some reason that WEI picks up one of my storage drives instead of the vertex3 SSD to benchmark as harddrive... |
| 21:59.33 | Macer | frals: then no 3D gaming for you! slow hard drive! :) |
| 21:59.46 | Macer | nox-: it would be great if they really did forbid you from playing the game |
| 21:59.53 | nox- | haha |
| 22:00.20 | Macer | i guess windows does not allow the aero desktop if your gfx is 2 or less or something like that |
| 22:00.26 | Macer | so in a way it forbids itself from doing stuff |
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| 22:19.28 | Macer | am i the only one who finds it sad ms uses flash for their media center instead of silverlight? |
| 22:19.43 | Macer | :) |
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| 23:01.54 | Mousey | webOS is being opensourced... chances of a merge? |
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| 23:21.23 | DocScrutinizer | merge to what? |
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