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| 01:59.11 | merlin1991 | gotta love cmake |
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| 04:35.25 | jonwil | wishes he didnt have so many people asking for so many features in icd-wlan-priority |
| 04:41.05 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 04:59.12 | jonwil | right now though I just wish I could advance operator-name-cbs-widget and get that into cssu-t or whatever so more people can use it and play with it :) |
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| 05:22.23 | jonwil | wishes he could be inspired to work on N900 stuff... |
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| 06:13.41 | DocScrutinizer | to save time for any of you who might consider looking into thumb for "saving RAM": get chanlog of last hour on #maemo-ssu or simply believe me: thumb does not work on N900 |
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| 06:15.33 | jonwil | so the OMAP CPU in the N900 is totally broken with regards to thumb? |
| 06:15.40 | DocScrutinizer | I'm still looking for a reliable way to scan *all* fremantle binaries for thumb usage - if anybody can come up with a cmdline incantation to give a true/false result that would be much appreciated |
| 06:15.51 | DocScrutinizer | jonwil: basically... YES |
| 06:16.27 | jonwil | so is the issue that stock N900 binaries contain thumb code they should not or that CSSU items are being built with thumb on by mistake or both? |
| 06:16.56 | DocScrutinizer | that's the question, exactly :-D |
| 06:17.18 | DocScrutinizer | either #2 or #3 |
| 06:17.28 | jonwil | so there might be stock N900 binaries that contain thumb code? |
| 06:17.35 | DocScrutinizer | while I try to find out about #1 |
| 06:17.52 | DocScrutinizer | jonwil: tell me how to find out |
| 06:18.04 | jonwil | what happens if we find a stock N900 closed blob with (non-working) thumb code? |
| 06:18.05 | DocScrutinizer | not only stock but esp also extras |
| 06:18.13 | jonwil | I have no idea how to tell if a binary has thumb |
| 06:18.23 | jonwil | Maybe someone in the gcc or binutils communities might know |
| 06:18.29 | DocScrutinizer | then we all do a magic dance to convert it to ARMel |
| 06:19.55 | DocScrutinizer | I read the cmd to switch to and from thumb mode is some BX, however I never see that opcode mnemonic in objdump -d |
| 06:21.22 | jonwil | maybe objdump displays something different |
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| 06:36.30 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, BX and BL both seem valid mnemonics for switching between ARM and thumb |
| 06:37.25 | DocScrutinizer | <--- idiot, should've made a copy of modest.launch when it definitely was thumb, for reference and test purposes |
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| 06:59.19 | Macer | it sucks when zooming out doesn't use the extra space |
| 06:59.21 | Macer | for |
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| 09:07.00 | Sicelo | is it considered safe to do a dump of all my gconf keys, and modifying the resultant xml file, then reloading it? |
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| 09:10.14 | Sicelo | i have entries there from apps uninstalled a long time ago. more specifically, i want to remove entries in /apps/connui-cellular that belong to custom operator name wizard |
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| 09:22.29 | ruskie | Sicelo, should be |
| 09:22.41 | ruskie | Sicelo, you should be able to just delete them as well I think |
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| 09:31.44 | jonwil | is bored |
| 09:31.54 | jonwil | just cant seem to get inspired to do any more N900 work |
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| 09:35.30 | jonwil | done everything for operator-name-cbs-widget that can be done for now |
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| 09:41.24 | jonwil | cant get inspired to do vkb stuff either :( |
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| 09:48.39 | jonwil | wow, check out https://gitorious.org/maemo-5-certificate-manager/maemo-security-certman-applet |
| 09:48.51 | jonwil | Looks like Nokia open sourced the PR1.3.1 version |
| 09:49.30 | psycho_oreos | doubt it |
| 09:49.45 | jonwil | they did |
| 09:50.00 | jonwil | the code at that URL is correct for PR1.3.1 |
| 09:50.01 | psycho_oreos | oh wait.. you mean just the firmware upgrade right? |
| 09:50.15 | jonwil | also read https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12388 |
| 09:50.17 | povbot | 04Bug 12388: Missing source code of certificate control panel applet |
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| 09:50.22 | jonwil | that bug explains exactly what Nokia has just done |
| 09:50.29 | psycho_oreos | too bad they didn't bother releasing the firmware blobs with 1.3.1 |
| 09:51.07 | jonwil | that code at that git repo IS LGPLv2 source code for the certificate manager applet as shipped with PR1.3.1 |
| 09:51.28 | jonwil | what firmware blobs do you refer to? |
| 09:52.03 | jonwil | oh and https://gitorious.org/maemo-5-certificate-manager/maemo-security-certman-applet/blobs/master/debian/changelog clearly says its the 0.1.4 version from PR1.3.1 :) |
| 09:53.17 | psycho_oreos | tablets-dev.nokia.com |
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| 09:55.57 | jonwil | its good that maemo-security-certman-applet is open source now |
| 09:56.01 | jonwil | Good for the CSSU for one thing |
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| 10:27.12 | infobot | mohammadag is currently on #maemo (3d 16h 8m 59s) #harmattan (3d 16h 8m 59s) #meego (3d 16h 8m 59s). Has said a total of 26 messages. Is idling for 1d 17h 15m 45s, last said: 'icons is a valid plural, no need for an S :P'. |
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| 10:50.40 | lizardo | X-Fade: BTW (moving question to here where it is more appropriate). I see at least one package (found by "accident" which is uploaded to the "free" extras component, but does not look OSS (i.e. the source package is just a wrapper for the binary). Has been QA relaxed on this regard intentionally (due to less people working on QA for Maemo5 etc.)? |
| 10:51.05 | X-Fade | lizardo: It should not. |
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| 10:51.45 | X-Fade | lizardo: I guess that should be noted on the -dev list and then we need to take action. |
| 10:52.06 | X-Fade | Not sure if the case you talk about is intentional or just a mistake. |
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| 10:55.16 | lizardo | X-Fade: my first thought is that the uploader didn't know about the difference actually, and wanted to upload to non-free |
| 10:55.35 | lizardo | X-Fade: "non-free" sometimes sounds "have to pay" for non-OSS developers :) |
| 10:55.55 | X-Fade | lizardo: Yes, that is likely. |
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| 10:59.25 | lizardo | X-Fade: anyway, I will send a heads up to the mailing list. Do you still have access to the repository servers ? Maybe we can do a quick script to unpack source packages from "free" component and run something like "find -type f -exec file '{}' \; | grep ELF" looking for obvious cases. Unfortunately some maintainers may not be following the mailing list anymore |
| 11:01.08 | X-Fade | Yeah, that can be done although that is a quite extensive job. |
| 11:02.07 | X-Fade | We can write the maintainers if needed. |
| 11:02.15 | X-Fade | Mail them I mean. |
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| 12:17.33 | fff | hi |
| 12:17.40 | thresh | hola |
| 12:19.08 | fff | hi |
| 12:19.19 | fff | where r u from? |
| 12:21.24 | thresh | thanks for CSSU and portrait mode guys. its cool. |
| 12:25.28 | psycho_oreos | wrong channel to post your thanks, should probably do that in #maemo-ssu imo :) |
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| 12:26.35 | thresh | duh :) |
| 12:26.42 | LaoLang_cool | hello |
| 12:26.57 | LaoLang_cool | What's the default root password? I need to use sudo |
| 12:27.22 | LaoLang_cool | I have no rootsh installed, because the bad networking, I can't install it |
| 12:28.28 | psycho_oreos | enable R&D mode through flasher then go through via sudo gainroot |
| 12:29.25 | LaoLang_cool | psycho_oreos: thanks, I will google how to enable R&D mode, I remember the R&D mode has side effect |
| 12:30.07 | psycho_oreos | LaoLang_cool, it does but the side effects are somewhat minimal provided that you know what you're doing and you're well aware that you've enabled R&D mode instead of production mode |
| 12:30.31 | LaoLang_cool | psycho_oreos: ahh, thanks for info |
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| 13:35.15 | Sicelo_ | http://pastebin.com/kNsaAF4V |
| 13:35.22 | Sicelo_ | http://pastebin.com/x7LC1zra |
| 13:36.02 | psycho_oreos | Spam Detection For Pastebin ID: kNsaAF4V | Spam Detection For Pastebin ID: x7LC1zra |
| 13:36.14 | psycho_oreos | maybe also in the wrong channel window/tab too? |
| 13:36.39 | Sicelo_ | bad connectivity now |
| 13:36.40 | Sicelo_ | indeed.. sorry |
| 13:36.54 | psycho_oreos | heh all good |
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| 13:39.47 | Sicelo_ | xchat always beats me |
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| 14:03.31 | Pali | ping X-Fade |
| 14:03.46 | Pali | ~seen X-Fade |
| 14:03.49 | infobot | x-fade is currently on #maemo (2d 23h 27m 25s) #harmattan (2d 23h 27m 25s) #meego (2d 23h 27m 25s). Has said a total of 97 messages. Is idling for 3h 1m 34s, last said: 'Mail them I mean.'. |
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| 14:20.48 | X-Fade | Pali: pong |
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| 14:21.15 | Pali | X-Fade, can you look at kernel-power package in maemo package interface? |
| 14:22.07 | X-Fade | Pali: Ok, what should I see there? |
| 14:22.22 | Pali | new versions v47, v48 and v49 |
| 14:23.10 | Pali | for all packages: kernel-power, kernel-power-modules, kernel-power-flasher, kernel-power-bootimg, kernel-power-source, kernel-power-debug, ... |
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| 14:23.11 | X-Fade | Pali: Didn't get imported? |
| 14:23.27 | Pali | maemo package interface cannot see them |
| 14:23.35 | Pali | all is in extras-devel |
| 14:23.44 | Pali | and via HAM or apt-get is possible to install |
| 14:23.55 | X-Fade | Pali: Hmm strage. Ok, need to dig into the logs then. |
| 14:24.52 | Pali | and because package interface does not see them I cannot promote kernel-power to extras-testing |
| 14:26.15 | X-Fade | I wonder of your new numbering scheme evaluates as being lower. |
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| 14:27.30 | Pali | prefix "1:" is for new versions |
| 14:27.39 | Pali | this working fine for other packages |
| 14:28.07 | X-Fade | Your new numbering is 2.6.28-10power49 vs 2.6.28-maemo46 |
| 14:28.56 | Pali | no, it is "1:2.6.28-10power49" |
| 14:29.52 | X-Fade | Yeah, but epochs are not considered. |
| 14:30.21 | X-Fade | At least not there. |
| 14:30.58 | X-Fade | But I think I can fix this, let me try something. |
| 14:31.43 | Pali | ok |
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| 14:48.08 | jonwil | Pali, did you see the source release for maemo-security-certman-applet? |
| 14:51.50 | Pali | jonwil: yes |
| 14:52.17 | jonwil | its good that we got it |
| 14:52.27 | jonwil | but I dont see us (i.e. the community) getting any more source |
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| 14:52.48 | jonwil | (which sucks because there are great things that could be done with a few bits of source) |
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| 15:05.05 | jonwil | what feels like headache? |
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| 15:45.35 | Pali | X-Fade, now I see kernel-power v47 on http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power/ |
| 15:45.42 | Pali | but not last v49 |
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| 16:51.47 | badcloud | repos down? |
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| 17:35.24 | badcloud_ | repos down? |
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| 17:40.56 | badcloud | repos down? |
| 17:41.43 | Corsac | please ask every five minutes |
| 17:41.45 | badcloud | also, has anyone successfully used a usb joystick with one of the game emus? |
| 17:41.46 | badcloud | sorry for possible repost |
| 17:41.46 | badcloud | having connection woes |
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| 17:43.02 | badcloud | I'm trying to use my snes usb controller |
| 17:43.18 | badcloud | recognized by kernel |
| 17:43.28 | badcloud | but I can't find /dev/js0 |
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| 17:44.54 | badcloud | but screen lights up when I press a button on the controller |
| 17:44.54 | badcloud | I installed joy2key via easy debian but running it gives me "error opening /dev/js0" |
| 17:44.54 | badcloud | any ideas? |
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| 17:46.25 | badcloud | Corsac: I already explained why I may have reposted. no need to be rude |
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| 17:59.15 | aholler | badcloud: grep JOY nokia_2420_defconfig |
| 18:01.16 | aholler | would make me wonder if someone had enabled the joystick driver(s) |
| 18:08.51 | badcloud | aholler: I found this http://tomasz.sterna.tv/2010/01/ps3-sixaxis-as-joystick-and-mouse-on-nokia-n900/ |
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| 18:12.09 | Pavel | Well, it looks like after almost two years of use, my N900 USB port finally gave out... |
| 18:12.32 | aholler | badcloud: read how to build a powerkernel amd just enable the driver before (throuh menuconfig) |
| 18:14.48 | Pavel | is pretty sure it's out of warranty by now. |
| 18:18.46 | SpeedEvil | 2 year warranty in the EU |
| 18:18.52 | Pavel | I am in US. |
| 18:18.56 | SpeedEvil | Ah. |
| 18:18.58 | SpeedEvil | :( |
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| 18:22.52 | Pavel | Other than finding another N900 owner, are there any good ways to charge the battery? |
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| 18:26.13 | Pali | Pavel: buying external charger |
| 18:26.56 | valerius | made two partitions on a microSD card. But someone constantly rewrites fstab -- how could I automount the partitions? Is that documented somewhere? |
| 18:27.47 | valerius | reformatted eMMC in ext3 |
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| 18:29.35 | SpeedEvil | grep fstab in /etc |
| 18:29.42 | SpeedEvil | I forget what rewtites it |
| 18:29.53 | SpeedEvil | actually - search for genfstab.awk |
| 18:30.34 | valerius | yes, I know, but some program always rewrites fstab -- all changes become lost |
| 18:31.01 | DocScrutinizer | reread! |
| 18:31.02 | Pavel | Pali: Any recommendations? There are some very cheap ones, but extremely low quality, it looks like. |
| 18:31.13 | Pali | wait |
| 18:31.19 | Pali | I have one original from Nokia |
| 18:31.25 | valerius | ah, it's awk script -- saw it somewhere... |
| 18:31.53 | DocScrutinizer | Pavel: Nokia 5800 |
| 18:31.58 | DocScrutinizer | for example |
| 18:32.03 | valerius | speedevil thanks for reminding ;) |
| 18:32.26 | DocScrutinizer | Pavel: http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/accessories/all-accessories/power/batteries/nokia-battery-bl-5j/compatibility |
| 18:33.43 | Pali | Pavel: Nokia DT-33 |
| 18:33.46 | Pali | http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/accessories/all-accessories/home-and-office/desk-stands/nokia-battery-charging-stand-dt-33 |
| 18:34.47 | Pavel | Pali: Thanks. |
| 18:34.48 | Pali | I'm using Nokia DT-33 charger and no problems |
| 18:35.17 | Pavel | I wonder if there are any cheap knockoffs that aren't so cheap as to blow up the battery. |
| 18:36.23 | Pavel | is thinking of this as a temporary measure to get data off the phone and shop for a new one... He is thinking of switching to some Android with one of the alternative firmwares. |
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| 18:37.18 | Pavel | I guess $20ish isn't too bad. |
| 18:37.36 | Pavel | It's a betrayal, I know... |
| 18:38.46 | Pali | you need also classic charger |
| 18:39.01 | Pavel | Pali: Eh? |
| 18:39.16 | Pali | DT-33 is for charing battery, but it is not charger |
| 18:39.27 | Pali | you need to connect charger into DT-33 |
| 18:39.31 | Pavel | Pali: You mean the AC -> USB component? |
| 18:39.49 | Pali | no |
| 18:39.57 | Pali | DT-33 does not have USB port |
| 18:40.06 | Pali | only Nokia charger port |
| 18:41.35 | Pavel | $%#$^ proprietary connectors. |
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| 18:46.57 | Pavel | http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Battery-Charger-Output-PowerGen/dp/B003RPTEXO/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top <- This one might be compatible too. |
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| 18:55.14 | Pavel | So ordered. |
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| 20:38.16 | infobot | x-fade is currently on #maemo (3d 6h 1m 52s) #harmattan (3d 6h 1m 52s) #meego (3d 6h 1m 52s). Has said a total of 115 messages. Is idling for 5h 39m 7s, last said: 'Some backup/restore iteration, I guess.'. |
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