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| 00:07.45 | godtrunks | huy |
| 00:07.54 | godtrunks | hy i have a problem with my n900 |
| 00:08.05 | godtrunks | i remain stuck in boot menu |
| 00:08.24 | godtrunks | it's any command that i can remove bootmenu1.1? |
| 00:09.21 | godtrunks | the proximity sensor (GPIO 89) it's changinf all the time, closing and open |
| 00:09.27 | godtrunks | what shoud i do? |
| 00:11.54 | godtrunks | any help? |
| 00:12.19 | SpeedEvil | I suppose covering the prox sensor doesn't make it not do that? |
| 00:13.04 | godtrunks | no |
| 00:13.11 | godtrunks | it's the slide senzor |
| 00:13.18 | SpeedEvil | oh |
| 00:13.23 | godtrunks | and it's tarting all the time the boot menu |
| 00:13.24 | SpeedEvil | Is that the magnet one? |
| 00:13.37 | godtrunks | i don't know |
| 00:13.54 | SpeedEvil | I'd try to get a magnet, and see if you can make it not do that by applying the magnet |
| 00:14.05 | SpeedEvil | Also - are you near any high power equipment or wires? |
| 00:14.55 | godtrunks | no |
| 00:15.14 | godtrunks | i don't have a magnet |
| 00:15.39 | godtrunks | it's a command line that restore maemo boot?# |
| 00:15.43 | godtrunks | or something? |
| 00:16.06 | SpeedEvil | No, an actual magnet, to trip the sensor in the keyboard more to one state. |
| 00:16.18 | SpeedEvil | You haven't gotten the n900 wet? |
| 00:16.39 | godtrunks | no |
| 00:16.57 | godtrunks | i don't know |
| 00:17.06 | godtrunks | any ideea? |
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| 00:17.22 | godtrunks | hot to restore by command line original boot menu? |
| 00:17.30 | godtrunks | how to restore by command line original boot menu? |
| 00:25.14 | SpeedEvil | Sorry - not sure. |
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| 00:32.11 | merlin1991 | flash kernel only boot into maemo and be happy? |
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| 00:39.14 | zcat[1] | getting a bit confused here; trying to install stuff on a n770 tablet .. I can download and when I open the package / whatever is launches the application installer, but it can't seem to install the application package I opened, it just shows me the normal online ones |
| 00:40.25 | zcat[1] | ahh never mind, I think I found it. Install from file |
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| 00:42.28 | luke-jr | zcat[1]: poor you. |
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| 00:42.46 | luke-jr | zcat[1]: 770 was obsolete when it was released. years later, it's beyond unmaintained… |
| 00:43.52 | zcat[1] | so it's worth what I paid for it .. |
| 00:44.36 | zcat[1] | A friend acquired 25 of them, wants to try and make them modestly useful and resell. |
| 00:45.09 | zcat[1] | so far this one's actually pretty good. I can watch video on it, check my email .. |
| 00:45.24 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 00:45.34 | SpeedEvil | I question if they'd not all need new batteries. |
| 00:46.01 | zcat[1] | well this one seems to hold out for a few hours at least |
| 00:46.44 | zcat[1] | I think they may have had new batteries sometime in their life. |
| 00:46.57 | zcat[1] | (other than when they were actually new) |
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| 01:03.37 | arvut | oi! a spontanious idea: gentoo-arm on a nokia n900? how hard is it to accomplish? |
| 01:04.00 | arvut | sorry if any of you just saw that msg in gentoo-chat ;) |
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| 01:04.48 | DocScrutinizer51 | you wanna talk to luke-jr|otg |
| 01:05.24 | arvut | how so? does he have a n900 too? |
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| 01:10.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | maybe |
| 01:11.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | a lot of users here in do |
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| 01:14.59 | arvut | good to hear. I'm almost sick n tired of maemo5. maybe I installed too much crap but it doesnt feel nice anymore. considered reflashing for awhile now. |
| 01:16.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | go for it |
| 01:17.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | my CSSU feels nicer than ever before |
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| 01:21.24 | DocScrutinizer51 | ATM I'm sitting in my pub, IRCing via 3G while listening to Eldrige/Sisterhood. All thanks N900 |
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| 01:24.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | you could theat me to throw iPhone4gs at me until I drop my N900 - I won't |
| 01:25.38 | DocScrutinizer51 | just hedphones volume too low, I need to put boost900 on purpose |
| 01:28.10 | arvut | heh, not a big fan of apples, they tend to make your stomage hurt or be rotten ;) |
| 01:28.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | what you have lost / can never be founf / words are just dust / in desserts of sound |
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| 01:29.11 | arvut | mmm yes, the dessert plains of zombieland :) |
| 01:31.04 | arvut | I'm gonna go install lovely ol' NWN under ubuntu 11.10 and see if it runs there, will expect a sdl parachute a |
| 01:31.51 | arvut | s/a/as usual but it would be hax to get it going again =)/g |
| 01:32.04 | arvut | eh?? |
| 01:32.28 | arvut | that infobot drives me nuts sometimes lol |
| 01:32.44 | arvut | it gets it all wrongdydong |
| 01:32.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~rape arvut |
| 01:32.51 | infobot | ACTION takes arvut behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams |
| 01:33.22 | arvut | r0fl =) |
| 01:33.39 | arvut | thats just sick |
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| 01:36.16 | arvut | I dunno how. but my tab-collection has grown from the nice number 234 to a remarkable 284 in 6 days time. and I've firefoxed 3 times for only a few hours total in this period.. |
| 01:36.49 | arvut | silly me.. need to stop doing this. getting out of control |
| 01:37.01 | luke-jr | arvut: I maintain Gentoo for N900 |
| 01:37.16 | arvut | imagine all those tabs in fennec =) |
| 01:37.33 | luke-jr | arvut: I can move it to Gitorious if you want to assist. ;) |
| 01:37.44 | arvut | luke-jr: nice, does it run well? can you point me in the right direction in setting it up? |
| 01:38.29 | luke-jr | arvut: I haven't written any howtos yet… perhaps you want to do that? :p |
| 01:38.40 | arvut | luke-jr: I cant code that well, know some C and some more C++ & C#. but not enough to be productive ;) |
| 01:38.42 | luke-jr | http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/arm/autobuilds/current-stage3-armv7a_hardfp/stage3-armv7a_hardfp-20111108.tar.bz2 |
| 01:38.53 | luke-jr | well, it's more ebuild writing (BASH) than coding |
| 01:38.59 | luke-jr | except for kernels I guess |
| 01:40.52 | arvut | luke-jr: heh, one day sure =) I'm still trying to get thru the gentoo install, usually get stuck at the compile kernel stage. setting useflags on a coppermine (P3) notebook and installing it (for the 2nd time) on my nehalem i7 (950) |
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| 01:41.11 | luke-jr | arvut: I'm still using almost-stock Fremantle kernel for Gentoo |
| 01:41.44 | arvut | so not there yet but I do have a big interest in this stuff. feels more like working with something than using it. used ubuntu and maemo since 2008 and 2009 |
| 01:42.07 | luke-jr | arvut: basically, install via Maemo |
| 01:42.22 | arvut | oh? via the xterm? |
| 01:42.23 | luke-jr | carefully repartition your eMMC, or uSD if you're installing on that |
| 01:42.25 | luke-jr | yes |
| 01:43.59 | arvut | eMMC i think. or whatever is in there from the start. havent actually touched it since I bought it. hate that the MyDocs is fat and old 16 (or was it 32?) tho |
| 01:44.48 | luke-jr | my eMMC partition layout is: p1(2 GB vfat), p5(10 GB ext2), p6(16 GB ext2), p2(2 GB ext3), p3(805 MB swap) |
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| 01:45.03 | arvut | had some issues with read only on the MyDocs partition tho. think they solved themselves |
| 01:45.34 | arvut | ah, nice |
| 01:46.03 | luke-jr | my eMMC partition layout is: p1(2 GB vfat "MyDocs"), p5(10 GB ext2 "Gentoo root"), p6(16 GB ext2 "data"), p2(2 GB ext3 "Maemo home"), p3(805 MB swap) |
| 01:46.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | Vision Thing [just playing] |
| 01:46.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | bbl |
| 01:46.19 | luke-jr | ponders repartitioning eMMC… |
| 01:46.31 | arvut | how much room left for camera and all that then? or do you store that stuff on p5? |
| 01:46.41 | luke-jr | arvut: camera must use MyDocs |
| 01:46.48 | luke-jr | it depends on case-insensitivity |
| 01:47.06 | arvut | oh |
| 01:47.17 | arvut | and where is your MyDocs then? |
| 01:47.24 | luke-jr | … |
| 01:47.26 | luke-jr | [20:46:03] <luke-jr> my eMMC partition layout is: p1(2 GB vfat "MyDocs"), p5(10 GB ext2 "Gentoo root"), p6(16 GB ext2 "data"), p2(2 GB ext3 "Maemo home"), p3(805 MB swap) |
| 01:47.37 | arvut | oh right :) |
| 01:48.02 | luke-jr | if I did it again, I'd probably trash the "data" one for more space in "Gentoo root" and "MyDocs" |
| 01:48.12 | luke-jr | always running out of space on MyDocs |
| 01:48.26 | arvut | why not use ext4 on data? |
| 01:48.28 | DocScrutinizer51 | it's a small world and it smells funny, I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money |
| 01:48.44 | luke-jr | original plan was to use the 16 GB (it was "free" back then) for MeeGo and Ubuntu |
| 01:48.56 | luke-jr | arvut: Fremantle kernel was before ext4 was reasonably stable |
| 01:49.05 | arvut | aha |
| 01:49.05 | luke-jr | arvut: also, I don't trust ext3/journal with flash |
| 01:49.37 | arvut | I see, so the flash memory can corrupt the fs if its journaling? |
| 01:50.41 | luke-jr | journalling means everything gets written to Block X before its permanent location |
| 01:50.47 | luke-jr | which increases the wear on Block X significantly |
| 01:51.02 | arvut | hmm, any reason why python should have a 2GB partition? |
| 01:51.03 | luke-jr | and since flash often writes things out of order, the assumption is also false |
| 01:51.17 | luke-jr | ie, the permanent location could end up committed before Block X |
| 01:51.24 | luke-jr | Python? |
| 01:51.36 | arvut | yeah |
| 01:51.55 | arvut | oh wait. thats opt |
| 01:52.02 | arvut | =) |
| 01:52.02 | jonwil | is looking for testers of operator-name-cbs-widget |
| 01:52.03 | jonwil | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80526 |
| 01:52.40 | luke-jr | arvut: pretty much any Maemo apps go in "home" |
| 01:52.43 | luke-jr | aka opt |
| 01:52.48 | luke-jr | not just Pythn |
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| 01:57.37 | arvut | yeah, just got slightly confused with the returned data from "df -h" |
| 01:58.06 | arvut | so many python dirs mounted at different places |
| 01:58.46 | arvut | jonwil: that looks incredibly cool, ill give it a shot :) |
| 01:58.57 | jonwil | please do |
| 01:59.10 | jonwil | I want to make sure it actually installs properly with the fixes I just made to the packaging |
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| 02:00.37 | arvut | so "dpkg -i operator-name-cbs-widget_0.1_armel.deb" to install it? |
| 02:00.54 | DocScrutinizer | tryinf |
| 02:01.11 | DocScrutinizer | trying to sound like our olf |
| 02:01.19 | DocScrutinizer | old friend: |
| 02:01.28 | DocScrutinizer | What do we need to make our world come alive? |
| 02:01.29 | DocScrutinizer | What does it take to make us sing? |
| 02:01.31 | DocScrutinizer | While we're waiting for the next one to arrive? |
| 02:01.32 | DocScrutinizer | One million points of light, one billion dollar vision thing |
| 02:01.44 | arvut | feck. clicked reset on the irssi window lol. was gonna copy |
| 02:01.58 | DocScrutinizer | old friend == pupnik |
| 02:02.20 | arvut | a black nothingish irssi :) clock just returned tho |
| 02:03.11 | DocScrutinizer | use xchat! |
| 02:04.43 | arvut | nuh uh =P |
| 02:05.01 | arvut | I like my irssi just fine |
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| 02:07.14 | arvut | what themes do you guys use on your n900s btw? anyone else here whos a big fan of the "Array" theme? |
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| 02:13.08 | jonwil | so avrut, did the package install correctly? |
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| 02:18.46 | arvut | jonwil: ill give you a paste in a moment. exit code 1 so I guess not |
| 02:18.55 | jonwil | ok, please do |
| 02:20.37 | jonwil | the packaging must still not be right I guess :( |
| 02:20.53 | DocScrutinizer | >>I don't know why you're gonna be so undemanding<< |
| 02:22.17 | DocScrutinizer | I WANT MORE |
| 02:23.12 | SpeedEvil | uses the default theme. |
| 02:24.57 | sethstorm | I've been more partial to the reflect theme myself |
| 02:26.07 | arvut | jonwil: http://goo.gl/6rFa4 |
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| 02:26.55 | merlin1991 | jonwil: link to deb? |
| 02:26.59 | merlin1991 | feels brave |
| 02:27.24 | arvut | sethstorm: reflect theme huh? ill give it a try =) |
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| 02:27.49 | jonwil | hold on, I see the problem avrut had |
| 02:27.51 | jonwil | let me fix |
| 02:28.06 | merlin1991 | hm though I'm a bad tester |
| 02:28.07 | sethstorm | only way I go with something that looks like the maemo 5 stock theme is with my n810w |
| 02:28.13 | merlin1991 | 2g does no work on my n900 anymore |
| 02:28.37 | arvut | jonwil: I see the operatorname widget under setting btw. went to change theme and noticed its there and well, working afaik =) |
| 02:29.16 | jonwil | ok, can you go to xterm and do mv /usr/lib/libsms.so.x /usr/lib/libsms.so.0.0.0 |
| 02:29.26 | jonwil | that will complete the install |
| 02:29.49 | jonwil | then reboot and everything should be working |
| 02:29.54 | jonwil | reboot the n900 that is |
| 02:30.38 | arvut | what does these three options do? "Logging Enabled", "Name Logging Enabled" & "Cell Broadcast Enabled" |
| 02:31.05 | jonwil | the log options you dont want to turn on, they are to log stuff thats going on inside the plugin |
| 02:31.09 | jonwil | to make sure its doing what it should be |
| 02:31.14 | arvut | jonwil: ill give it a dareful try then =) |
| 02:31.20 | jonwil | nope, you dont want them |
| 02:31.32 | jonwil | you wont understand the logs unless you know lots about whats going on :) |
| 02:31.36 | arvut | the fix, that is |
| 02:31.39 | jonwil | ok |
| 02:31.41 | jonwil | yeah |
| 02:31.42 | jonwil | try that |
| 02:31.51 | arvut | jonwil: always willing to learn ;) |
| 02:32.03 | jonwil | "cell broadcast enabled" will enable the display of cell tower names if your operator is sending them |
| 02:33.41 | arvut | cool, will enable that then |
| 02:33.57 | arvut | after reboot or now? |
| 02:34.01 | arvut | :P |
| 02:34.21 | jonwil | now |
| 02:34.23 | jonwil | then reboot |
| 02:34.40 | jonwil | most operators only send those broadcast messages on 2G though |
| 02:34.59 | arvut | k, I'll do so and then report back to u before bootin |
| 02:35.25 | DocAvalanche | jonwil: there are reports of your thing fsckgup SMS send |
| 02:35.49 | jonwil | yeah I know, thats why I uploaded a new deb file to fix it |
| 02:36.30 | arvut | no change, or telia doesnt send phonetower names :/ rebooting now. ttys |
| 02:36.40 | merlin1991 | jonwil: anything I can do to help testing the packaging? |
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| 02:37.05 | jonwil | you could try installing http://www.cncmods.net/files/operator-name-cbs-widget_0.1_armel.deb |
| 02:37.24 | jonwil | make sure it gives no errors |
| 02:37.31 | DocAvalanche | Dr. Jeep |
| 02:38.52 | merlin1991 | jonwil: exit code 0 |
| 02:39.05 | jonwil | good |
| 02:39.10 | jonwil | that means it installed properly |
| 02:39.25 | merlin1991 | but why are the settings under personalisation? |
| 02:39.29 | jonwil | Dont know |
| 02:39.36 | merlin1991 | isn't it better in the conenction category? |
| 02:39.36 | jonwil | thats just where they ended up :P |
| 02:39.41 | jonwil | now I suggest turning on "cell broadcast enabled" |
| 02:39.44 | jonwil | and rebooting the N900 |
| 02:39.52 | jonwil | to see whether your operator is sending any |
| 02:40.00 | jonwil | doubtful but you never know :P |
| 02:40.16 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 02:40.35 | merlin1991 | btw I really suggest you change the Categories in the .desktop so it ends up under conneciton settings |
| 02:41.10 | merlin1991 | dsmetool -b is great :) |
| 02:41.41 | merlin1991 | (it's a way cleaner reboot than issuing reboot over ssh) |
| 02:42.34 | merlin1991 | jonwil: does it listen for changes in the gconf settings? |
| 02:42.40 | jonwil | yes it does |
| 02:42.47 | merlin1991 | where would the logs end up? |
| 02:43.37 | jonwil | home/user/cbsms.log and home/user/opername.log |
| 02:43.50 | DocAvalanche | or - even better - lsten to Be fiftytwo's |
| 02:44.11 | DocAvalanche | 52 Girls |
| 02:47.29 | merlin1991 | yeah no tower name over 3g |
| 02:47.35 | jonwil | I doubt you will find anything interesting in those logs anyway |
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| 02:48.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | can you name them today?? |
| 02:48.13 | merlin1991 | is cell id a tower id? |
| 02:48.38 | jonwil | yes |
| 02:48.55 | jonwil | name what today? |
| 02:49.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | yes |
| 02:49.32 | merlin1991 | would be interesting to use the cellid for some sort of location aware deamon |
| 02:50.20 | sethstorm | thought it was used for assisting the onboard GPS |
| 02:50.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | 53 Miles west o Venus - WOW |
| 02:50.30 | jonwil | cell ID isn't very useful for that by itself |
| 02:50.41 | jonwil | GPS is the only way to get a usable location |
| 02:50.49 | merlin1991 | isn't it unique? |
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| 02:50.56 | sethstorm | not unique enough |
| 02:51.11 | sethstorm | I can be a mile away from my tower |
| 02:51.15 | merlin1991 | I mean for a broad statement as in I'm at home cell id could be sufficient? |
| 02:51.17 | sethstorm | and it'd think I'd be there |
| 02:51.30 | merlin1991 | or let's say I'm in my home area |
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| 02:51.48 | merlin1991 | jonwil: remove worked fine too |
| 02:51.52 | jonwil | ok, great |
| 02:52.23 | merlin1991 | I guess I need yet another reboot to load the old libsms into mem? |
| 02:52.28 | jonwil | yeah |
| 02:52.31 | DocAvalanche | http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=53+miles+west+of+venus&oq=53+miles&aq=5&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=5391l8673l0l11312l8l8l0l4l4l0l313l1077l2-3.1l4l0 excuse me for being totally OT today |
| 02:52.51 | jonwil | Given that my phone will switch towers even when its plugged in and charging and not moving, using cell tower ID for any kind of location information is totally pointless |
| 02:53.01 | SpeedEvil | jonwil: It's not. |
| 02:53.21 | SpeedEvil | jonwil: It is pointless if you require location finer than the tower range. |
| 02:53.38 | luke-jr | cellid would be enough, IF we could see more than one ;) |
| 02:53.41 | DocAvalanche | eh? |
| 02:53.55 | luke-jr | and signal strength of each |
| 02:54.08 | luke-jr | (ok, you'd need 3 visible) |
| 02:54.14 | merlin1991 | jonwil: do you know any way to get cellid without starting at the log your system produces? |
| 02:54.18 | SpeedEvil | Signal strenght doesn't really work at all. |
| 02:54.34 | luke-jr | SpeedEvil: neither do we have access to multiple towers, Afaik |
| 02:54.37 | jonwil | no I dont know how to get cell ID easily |
| 02:54.45 | jonwil | and no we dont have any access to information from multiple towers |
| 02:54.53 | jonwil | the cellmo doesnt expose that info |
| 02:55.19 | jonwil | in any case I only use the cell ID to determine that we are in a new cell and therefore need a new cell tower name and I dont care about using cell tower info for location |
| 02:55.21 | SpeedEvil | jonwil: cellid is easy |
| 02:55.37 | jonwil | n900 has a GPS chip, if you want location, use it :) |
| 02:56.17 | luke-jr | what if the GPS sats are wiped out? |
| 02:56.18 | luke-jr | <.< |
| 02:57.00 | jonwil | unlikely to happen :P |
| 02:57.06 | merlin1991 | I think neal would be interested about cell tower info |
| 02:57.33 | luke-jr | jonwil: actually pretty easy |
| 02:57.36 | DocAvalanche | (<jonwil> Given that my phone will switch towers even when its plugged in and charging and not moving, using cell tower ID for any kind of location information is totally pointless) No it's not, as it is even more specific on Ur position when switching - U have to be on the borderline |
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| 02:57.51 | luke-jr | jonwil: EMPs wipe out any tech within line of sight. Sats are within a lot of areas line of sight |
| 02:57.53 | jonwil | whatever |
| 02:58.03 | jonwil | in case I dont care about location stuff other than GPS |
| 02:58.06 | DocAvalanche | gimme 60s to find the link |
| 02:58.17 | jonwil | anyone else who wants to play with that stuff feel free |
| 02:58.34 | jonwil | and yes I am sure there are dbus calls you can make to get the cell ID |
| 02:58.43 | DocAvalanche | http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-June/002987.html |
| 02:58.49 | DocAvalanche | enjoy!!! |
| 02:59.03 | DocAvalanche | you won't get beter info |
| 02:59.50 | jonwil | I just use connui_cell_net_status_register from libconnui_cell to get the info my plugin needs |
| 03:00.04 | jonwil | hence my libconnui-dev package :) |
| 03:00.19 | DocScrutinizer51 | >can you naame them today?< |
| 03:00.49 | merlin1991 | damn you usps where is my n900? |
| 03:01.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | naaaaaaaaaaame thm today |
| 03:01.15 | merlin1991 | "Processed Through Sort Facility" at november 16th, so where is it now? |
| 03:02.01 | jonwil | merlin1991, you have multiple n900s? |
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| 03:02.38 | arvut | moo |
| 03:02.44 | merlin1991 | I bought a 2nd one so I can run cssu testing and stable side by side |
| 03:02.55 | merlin1991 | but apparentlys usps wants to deny my the 2nd one |
| 03:03.09 | merlin1991 | s/my/me/ |
| 03:04.19 | arvut | jonwil: hello again, anything I should do? |
| 03:04.45 | jonwil | not really |
| 03:04.49 | jonwil | if its installed fine, it should be good |
| 03:04.50 | arvut | testsubject reporting for duty! |
| 03:05.00 | arvut | oh well |
| 03:05.02 | jonwil | it all depends on whether your network sends cell broadcast SMS messages |
| 03:05.07 | sethstorm | merlin1991: outbound or inbound? |
| 03:05.11 | jonwil | which is more likely on 2G |
| 03:05.29 | merlin1991 | sethstorm: parcel is supposed to go from usa -> austria |
| 03:05.33 | arvut | I could try switching from gsm to 3g or to dual mode |
| 03:05.47 | sethstorm | merlin1991: then I can see a good deal of problems |
| 03:06.16 | merlin1991 | never heard of our customs being like the ones from israel :D |
| 03:06.24 | DocAvalanche | fsck me gently, starting an employment after 30 years freelancer eats my nerves |
| 03:06.29 | arvut | I'm curious about the fAPN application tho. what exactly is it for? |
| 03:06.59 | merlin1991 | what's really odd is, that it's just been "processed through sorting facility" then nothing anymore |
| 03:07.50 | merlin1991 | neither entered austria customs, or went through us customs, simply nothing |
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| 03:08.43 | jonwil | my eperience is that the USPS tracking system is pathetic and useless |
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| 03:09.15 | sethstorm | they're better at delivering it than tracking it |
| 03:09.52 | merlin1991 | this is gonna be funny on friday |
| 03:10.26 | merlin1991 | I'll go to my local post office and go like "uh I'm expecting this parcel from the us since over two weeks, I only got a tracking number from usps, you know anything?" :D |
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| 03:16.34 | arvut | where is the device lock password stored? (iirc its a DES encrypted file) I need to decrypt it as I've forgot the pw I set on day 1 of this phones life :) |
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| 03:26.28 | HyperSnyper | arvut > here's a script for john the ripper i found on google > http://bigbob.fun.free.fr/maemo/Nokia-N900-Security-Code-Recover |
| 03:26.39 | HyperSnyper | looks like > /dev/mtd1 |
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| 03:37.38 | DocAvalanche | *sigh* at bug 12203 |
| 03:37.39 | povbot | 04Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12203 CSSU-testing makes downgrading to stock camera-ui extremely difficult |
| 03:39.19 | DocAvalanche | arvut: HyperSnyper: since PR1.3 this has changed and all effort in vain |
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| 03:42.55 | DocAvalanche | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1129548#post1129548 |
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| 04:11.17 | DocAvalanche | I *could* give you a virgin CAL image that will reset lockcode to 12345, but I don't feel like doing that |
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| 04:23.18 | dangergrrl | hi |
| 04:23.54 | dangergrrl | the lowest option for scanning for connections in settings->internet options is 5 mins |
| 04:24.08 | dangergrrl | is there a way to set it to 10 secs from the shell? |
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| 04:25.39 | zcat__ | looking for a terminal for maemo 2006 .. the maemo.org link is broken. |
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| 04:29.26 | DocAvalanche | dangergrrl: a single scan will take longer than 10s |
| 04:30.50 | DocAvalanche | but I donno how to make WLAN never stop scanning - maybe it's not a good idea after all anyway, as WLAN scans cut thru your bat in no time |
| 04:32.28 | DocAvalanche | dammit, world goes apeshit with screwed ideas |
| 04:33.13 | DocAvalanche | priceless: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1130363&postcount=382 |
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| 04:35.03 | dangergrrl | i would google for this but i have no idea how |
| 04:35.43 | dangergrrl | sigh, the germans are likely asleep :( |
| 04:36.05 | DocAvalanche | dbus-monitor is your friend |
| 04:36.32 | DocAvalanche | also gconftool -R / > before |
| 04:36.42 | DocAvalanche | diff before after |
| 04:38.11 | DocAvalanche | yawns |
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| 04:47.36 | zcat__ | What's an N770 worth these days? |
| 04:48.09 | DocAvalanche | 3.50? |
| 04:50.06 | DocAvalanche | wait a little (2..7 years) and sell to collectors |
| 04:51.18 | DocAvalanche | you already may get collectors' offers |
| 04:51.50 | Macer | haha |
| 04:52.09 | DocAvalanche | hell, new N810 are probably more expensive than new N900 (if you can find either) |
| 04:52.22 | Macer | it is a shame. N770 and N8x0 were ahead of their time |
| 04:52.39 | Macer | DocAvalanche: i need new tracks for my n810. it took a dive :( |
| 04:52.50 | Macer | still works fine but the slider gets stuck |
| 04:53.06 | DocAvalanche | hmm, can't be sth serous |
| 04:53.10 | Macer | you have to force it up or move it around to get itto open |
| 04:53.23 | DocAvalanche | disassemble, clean, oil |
| 04:53.25 | Macer | i don't think it is either |
| 04:53.32 | Macer | i don't think it is oil ;) |
| 04:53.39 | Macer | but it does need a new track |
| 04:54.03 | Macer | i might be able to repair the old one but i havent taken it apart yet |
| 04:54.37 | DocAvalanche | slider mech for N900 is ~25 bucks - never seen any for 810 |
| 04:54.50 | Macer | i looked |
| 04:54.57 | Macer | they are impossible to find ;) |
| 04:55.05 | Macer | best to get a broken n810 for parts |
| 04:55.12 | DocAvalanche | thought as much |
| 04:55.16 | Macer | that might actually be easier |
| 04:55.37 | DocAvalanche | well, I'll keep my two |
| 04:55.55 | DocAvalanche | both still fine |
| 04:56.50 | DocAvalanche | one severely used but working, one *new* |
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| 04:58.36 | DocAvalanche | so new I hadn't a chance yet to realize it got diablo |
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| 05:22.22 | Macer | hahaha |
| 05:22.51 | Macer | an n810 is great for carman :) |
| 05:23.05 | Macer | i was going to just hook mine up to the car windpw |
| 05:23.08 | Macer | window |
| 05:23.24 | Macer | and have it give me o2 stats and stuff |
| 05:23.42 | Macer | other than that i haven't used it in a very long time |
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| 05:28.22 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:28.34 | SpeedEvil | I was idly wondering about porting carman to n900 |
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| 05:52.07 | Macer | :) |
| 05:52.14 | Macer | battery eye is great |
| 05:52.34 | Macer | although it doesn't understand that i have been swapping batteries |
| 05:52.51 | Macer | damn tho... idling while i was asleep the n900 sips power |
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| 05:53.12 | Macer | and that is with wifi and IM still doing their thing.. as well as email polling every half hour |
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| 06:18.33 | AndrewX192 | Still able to reproduce #12318 - close button doesn't work now? |
| 06:22.47 | arvut | *beep* |
| 06:27.09 | arvut | so this a.out file. I should b able to run it without ssh'ing, right? I haven't locked down my phone and won't do it until its secure to do so (in other words: me having the pw) |
| 06:28.41 | arvut | ssh button on dropdown menu might not be so good to have installed incase I lock down the device by accident (or worse, someone else finds my phone and does just that. |
| 06:28.44 | arvut | ) |
| 06:29.43 | psycho_oreos | if the a.out file is on the device then yes you won't need to SSH |
| 06:29.57 | psycho_oreos | but otherwise you're being vague |
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| 06:35.02 | arvut | yeah, thats exactly what I meant.. curious though, is the a.out a binary executable? (no, haven't dl'd it yet) |
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| 06:37.07 | arvut | sorry if my questions are a bit obscure. got a major headache and sligh fever + insomniac tiredness so my head aint too clear atm =.= |
| 06:38.23 | psycho_oreos | a.out is the default filename that is outputted when one uses things like gcc for instance. It can be a binary executable or it can be anything else.. remember you can rename a simple text file in a.out but that does not instantly render the file an executable binary. For that there's a tool called `file' which takes loads of guesswork out |
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| 06:45.19 | luke-jr | like 118 left before kdebase-meta is done installing :D |
| 06:46.43 | LaoLang_cool | help, I can't reflash rom, n900 has bricked... when I tried to reflash emmc, in the progress of copying emmc image into n900, the progress will stop at 'init 20%' |
| 06:46.56 | LaoLang_cool | What's wrong? what should I do now? |
| 06:47.49 | psycho_oreos | try flashing combined first before eMMC, but make sure to never reboot in between that process |
| 06:48.13 | LaoLang_cool | psycho_oreos: oh! I've rebooted |
| 06:48.13 | arvut | psycho_oreos: so this a.out file that will temper with or somehow reveal (not sure tbh) the device lock pw is what? |
| 06:48.26 | LaoLang_cool | What's going on?... |
| 06:49.19 | psycho_oreos | arvut, oh you were following that thread by qwery12, never tried that program so I wouldn't know |
| 06:49.23 | arvut | trying to recover lost pw for device lock, so that I (or some other fool) wont accidently (or on purpose) lock my phone |
| 06:50.00 | psycho_oreos | LaoLang_cool, Generally if you flash combined first and eMMC second you should never have reboot flags set on |
| 06:50.03 | arvut | heh ok, so a.out in this case is the gcc output as a binary executable then? |
| 06:50.11 | psycho_oreos | yes |
| 06:50.16 | arvut | cool |
| 06:50.20 | psycho_oreos | well executable under ARM only |
| 06:50.38 | LaoLang_cool | psycho_oreos: yes, I've done something wrong :( |
| 06:50.50 | arvut | ponders if the sourcecode is available somewhere =P |
| 06:51.11 | LaoLang_cool | It stopped at [init 20 % 32768 / 255947 kB 0 kB/s] |
| 06:51.13 | psycho_oreos | LaoLang_cool, I don't really have much of a suggestion.. except to repeat the process again |
| 06:51.19 | arvut | amazing music on ah.fm now, headache is slightly cured now :) |
| 06:51.29 | psycho_oreos | arvut, I doubt it, qwerty12 hardly provides source codes on his work |
| 06:51.37 | arvut | oh |
| 06:52.40 | ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/30/xen_kvm_hypervisor_for_arm_chips/ |
| 06:53.22 | LaoLang_cool | The symptom is like http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=78088, I'm reading it |
| 06:54.22 | luke-jr | ruskie: not interesting :P |
| 06:55.23 | luke-jr | oh, KVM too? |
| 06:55.29 | luke-jr | missed that in the URI |
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| 08:21.21 | arvut | a full reflash is what I must do. would a complete backup restore the device to its former state (but without the old device lockcode) after reflash (I know I have to dl all the apps again..) |
| 08:22.05 | ruskie | arvut, the lockcode remains the same |
| 08:22.16 | ruskie | arvut, there's some app that can help you reset it iirc |
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| 08:37.31 | hiemanshu | ~flashing |
| 08:37.32 | infobot | rumour has it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 08:38.56 | mihu | Hi. I have a hildon-gtk-based application which uses hildon_notification_new() and notify_notification_set_hint_string() to produce a notification that will show as this yellow window in the background and lets the led blink. I want to port this application to QtMaemo5, but I have not found a way to achieve this. QMaemo5InformationBox() only does Hildon banners and notes. Any idea? |
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| 08:42.08 | luke-jr | mihu: you know Maemo is long dead, right? <.< |
| 08:42.52 | mihu | luke-jr: Yes, but this is not the answer to my question. :-) |
| 08:43.45 | luke-jr | k :P |
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| 08:45.27 | mihu | Ok, just to answer to myself: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=54815 suggests that this is not possible. Looking at http://vcs.maemo.org/svn/eve-watcher/trunk/poc/notification-example/qmaemo5notification.cpp it's obvious that the class is just a small wrapper around libnotify. There is a suggestion to achieve my goal mentioned in http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/How_to_show_notification_from_Qt_aplication_in_Maemo_5. |
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| 09:48.03 | Shapeshifter | Is there supposed to be anything in /root ond the n900? I have two rather large files, Packages and Packages.1 in there. Can't remember if I put them there or if they're supposed to be there. They contain stuff similar to what dpkg -L may list. |
| 09:48.41 | Shapeshifter | I mean apt-cache show |
| 09:49.48 | ruskie | you cane remove those |
| 09:49.58 | ruskie | you most likely moved it or something |
| 09:50.15 | ruskie | see /var/lib/dpkg iirc |
| 09:50.21 | ruskie | should have Packages as well |
| 09:54.20 | Shapeshifter | allright |
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| 09:56.27 | Shapeshifter | well damn, imagemagick isn't optified. |
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| 10:18.12 | Shapeshifter | bah how much space does CSSU need to install? I already freed up 57.4mb |
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| 10:40.01 | Shapeshifter | How do I backup the sent email from modest to my desktop? |
| 10:41.34 | Robot101 | move it into the IMAP Sent folder :) |
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| 10:48.22 | lizardo | hi, just wondering, but has the Maemo5 extras repository policy changed so that the "free" component also takes non-FLOSS packages ? |
| 10:49.28 | lizardo | I see at least one package there for which I was not able to find sources at all (the "source" package is just a wrapper to copy binaries), but I didn't look further to find other examples |
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| 10:57.14 | LaoLang_cool | mgedmin: Hi, pleaze upgrade vim on n900 :) |
| 11:04.53 | ruskie | lizardo, I thought you specified what extras you wanted... free and/or non-free |
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| 11:33.10 | lizardo | ruskie: yes, you can select the component, but looks like QA didn't check if the source package is actual source or just binaries. Anyway, I'm not sure if there is still community QA for Maemo 5 extras, of if currently it is only voting based. Also, the developer may had a mistake uploading to the wrong component |
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| 12:17.41 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer51: modest does not only not crash on me no more it seems to be faster too |
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| 12:24.18 | kwtm | I feel taken advantage of by the newest version of the QtTranslate app which shows ads. Is there a way to go back to the old version? I know how to pin, but where can I find an earlier version --are they also in the repositories, or do I need to find out where the previous .deb package is stored on my N900? I don't think the N900 stores .deb packages once they are already installed, right? |
| 12:27.06 | auenf | ovi store or extras? |
| 12:28.04 | auenf | http://maemo.org/packages/view/qtranslate/ |
| 12:28.38 | auenf | http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras_free_armel/qtranslate/1.0.0/ |
| 12:31.18 | LaoLang_cool | kwtm: you can find .deb at /var/cache/apt/archive/, only if you install via apt-get |
| 12:31.55 | LaoLang_cool | Jaffa: Hi, pleaze upgrade vim on n900 :) |
| 12:32.03 | kwtm | LaoLang_cool: Thx! I'll see if I installed it via apt-get --I might have. auenf: extras, so I'll check there. Thx! |
| 12:32.29 | kwtm | LaoLang_cool: What version is vim on N900? I use Vim, too (my N900 is charging and I don't have it with me). |
| 12:33.05 | LaoLang_cool | kwtm: 7.2 |
| 12:35.46 | auenf | kwtm, there seems to be a .deb of each version in extras |
| 12:36.43 | kwtm | auenf: Oh, good! I'm trying to look for the actual repository URL so I can point my browser at it and see if I can find something between the current version and v1.0 |
| 12:37.08 | kwtm | LaoLang_cool: Oh, 7.2 is what I've been using on my laptop, too. No wonder I don't feel like I'm missing anything. What's the diff between 7.2 and the latest? |
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| 12:37.51 | auenf | doesnt seem to be any version in extras/extras-devel between 1.0.0 and 1.0.3 |
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| 12:39.37 | kwtm | auenf: Thx. Will get 1.0.0. <mutter> Dumb ads. :P </mutter> |
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| 12:40.23 | kwtm | Wait, when I click on the link, it no longer exists. Will see if I can pin the version to 1.0.0 |
| 12:40.42 | kwtm | By "no longer exists" I mean I get a 404 error for http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/fremantle/free/q/qtranslate/qtranslate_1.0.0_armel.deb |
| 12:41.34 | kwtm | Maybe merlin's repository has it. |
| 12:43.50 | LaoLang_cool | kwtm: many! for example, Persistent undo, More encryption, Conceal text, etc. |
| 12:44.55 | kwtm | darn. Even the merlin repository only has 1.0.3. Better start digging or maybe <shudder> modify the source. Or I could just use the web site, but the N900 web browser is SOOOO slow ... |
| 12:45.18 | kwtm | LaoLang_cool: Wow. Will have to look into it. |
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| 12:48.30 | auenf | qtranslate 1.0.0Fremantle Extras free armelOld version cleaned by repository management |
| 12:48.36 | auenf | thats probably why its a 404 |
| 12:49.21 | auenf | altho the source seems to be still there |
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| 12:53.32 | LaoLang_cool | kwtm: yes, it's worth to try, more info can refer to http://ivanidris.net/wordpress/index.php/2010/08/22/vim-7-3-released |
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| 12:56.32 | kwtm | Wow, persistent undo means I can read a file later and still have its undo history? That's great! (I thought "persistent undo" meant that if I undo something, it will stay undone --which is, of course, the way it is already.) |
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| 13:04.20 | LaoLang_cool | kwtm: yes, so I think it's actually a majoy upgrade :) |
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| 13:05.33 | DocScrutinizer | chem|st: (modest faster) expected, thumb is small but slow |
| 13:05.52 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer: thumb? |
| 13:06.19 | LaoLang_cool | modest is fater? than what? |
| 13:06.28 | LaoLang_cool | s/fater/faster/ |
| 13:06.30 | DocScrutinizer | alternative 16bit opcodes for arm |
| 13:07.14 | chem|st | LaoLang_cool: CSSU testing modest "now" is slightly faster than "before" |
| 13:07.29 | LaoLang_cool | chem|st: got it |
| 13:08.03 | LaoLang_cool | I've tried with CSSU yesterday, but think that the offical release is enough for me :) |
| 13:08.43 | LaoLang_cool | on pc, I use fetchmail + procmail + mutt, it's missing on n900 though |
| 13:09.26 | chem|st | LaoLang_cool: there is ssh... |
| 13:09.45 | chem|st | my primary client is mutt... anywhere |
| 13:10.21 | chem|st | translates to "gimme ssh and I am online just enough" |
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| 13:10.43 | chem|st | mutt irssi centerim.... love it |
| 13:11.06 | chem|st | but I am a freak... my netbooks windowmanager is ion... |
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| 13:12.09 | LaoLang_cool | after reflashing, I rm -r * and .*, and restored old files/dirs of /home/user, not modest says Internal error. Application 'E-mail' closed |
| 13:12.13 | LaoLang_cool | What's wrong? |
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| 13:12.27 | LaoLang_cool | s/not/now/ |
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| 13:13.28 | kwtm | LaoLang_cool: woldrich in #vim says he's using 7.3 on his n900. |
| 13:13.54 | LaoLang_cool | after reflashing, I rm -r * and .*, and restored old files/dirs of /home/user, now modest says: " nternal error. Application 'E-mail' closed" |
| 13:14.02 | LaoLang_cool | I don't know what's wrong |
| 13:14.33 | LaoLang_cool | kwtm: wow, good, don't know if he could provide .deb |
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| 13:19.17 | LaoLang_cool | Which files/dirs store the sms database? |
| 13:20.52 | LaoLang_cool | And which files/dirs store the calendar database? |
| 13:21.23 | LaoLang_cool | And tasks, contacts |
| 13:21.45 | LaoLang_cool | I don't know where to find them |
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| 13:25.17 | ruskie | LaoLang_cool, try ~/.osso-something or other |
| 13:25.25 | ruskie | I don't recall atm |
| 13:25.45 | LaoLang_cool | ruskie: thanks, will try |
| 13:26.01 | ruskie | I know contacts would probably be ~/.osso-abook |
| 13:26.53 | ruskie | ~/.calendar |
| 13:27.50 | LaoLang_cool | ruskie: after renamed .osso-abook, contacts still works fine |
| 13:27.56 | ruskie | .rtcomm-* |
| 13:28.31 | ruskie | I think that about covers it |
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| 13:29.46 | ruskie | LaoLang_cool, well you would need to kill the app as well |
| 13:29.48 | ruskie | not just close it |
| 13:29.53 | ruskie | iirc it runs in the background |
| 13:30.19 | LaoLang_cool | ruskie: how to rerun it? |
| 13:30.28 | LaoLang_cool | ok, I reboot n900 to check... |
| 13:33.15 | kwtm | LaoLang_cool: When I asked woldrich about it, he just said enable all repositories (except testing). |
| 13:41.00 | LaoLang_cool | kwtm: but at the site http://maemo.org/packages/view/vim/, it shows that the latest version is 7.2 |
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| 13:59.39 | LaoLang_cool | ruskie: thanks :) sms: .rtcom-eventlogger/, Contacts: .osso-abook/, calendar: .calendar/ |
| 14:00.01 | ruskie | hehe |
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| 14:51.51 | No-0ption | http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/11/30/phone-rootkit-carrier-iq-may-have-violated-wiretap-law-in-millions-of-cases/ |
| 14:58.45 | SpeedEvil | Oops. |
| 15:03.17 | merlin1991 | is going to flash emmc for the first time |
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| 15:12.07 | merlin1991 | fu austrian postal service |
| 15:12.44 | merlin1991 | guess what, customs decided the n900 I got needs more customs paid, therefore postal serverices lemme pay another 12€ for taking care of the process |
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| 15:30.50 | vi_____ | merlin1991: bastards. |
| 15:32.18 | vi_____ | merlin1991: who are you? I have never seen you before then you suddenly pop up and you are a cssu stable big cheese. |
| 15:33.33 | vi_____ | has anyone who has done the 720p recording/playback thing noticed a dramatic increase in cpu power required for mafw. |
| 15:34.02 | vi_____ | i.e. the mafw-dbus-wrapper process is taking ~50% moar cpu. |
| 15:37.47 | merlin1991 | vi_____ I've been with cssu from the early beginng, though I was most active on #maemo-ssu helping trillions of people who had modified-hildon-desktop installed :D |
| 15:38.34 | merlin1991 | in march I started the wiki changelog and now stable :D |
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| 15:39.12 | merlin1991 | I don't remember though when I got the cssu cloak here on freenode |
| 15:40.07 | merlin1991 | could someone md5sum the emmc image? |
| 15:40.16 | merlin1991 | I'm not sure my dl went through fine |
| 15:40.31 | merlin1991 | ah wait nvm found the sums file |
| 15:41.52 | merlin1991 | vi_____: I guess I wasn't that visible because I never posted on tmo |
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| 16:36.43 | vi_____ | DocScrutinizer: |
| 16:36.48 | vi_____ | DocScrutinizer: ping |
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| 16:54.25 | rowdy | Hello all |
| 16:55.33 | dangergrrl | the lowest option for scanning for connections in settings->internet options is 5 mins |
| 16:55.36 | dangergrrl | is there a way to set it to 10 secs from the shell? |
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| 17:04.44 | rowdy | hi |
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| 17:08.52 | DocScrutinizer | dangergrrl: gconftool -R /system/osso/connectivity|less "+/interval" |
| 17:09.18 | dangergrrl | thanks, DocScrutinizer, i guessed you would know |
| 17:09.24 | dangergrrl | is that in seconds? |
| 17:09.36 | DocScrutinizer | seems so |
| 17:09.59 | DocScrutinizer | I didn't know, I just searched for it |
| 17:10.16 | dangergrrl | oh, i could not think of a good google string for it |
| 17:10.29 | DocScrutinizer | haha, not via google |
| 17:10.52 | DocScrutinizer | dangergrrl: via gconftool -R /|less |
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| 17:12.04 | dangergrrl | the usb plug on mine is going out, i have to prop the data cable against things to make it work |
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| 17:33.38 | tzafrir | Is there a build of firefox for maemo maintained somewhere? |
| 17:33.49 | tzafrir | s/firefox/fennec/ |
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| 17:42.27 | rowdy | anyone how can i send a pvt message |
| 17:44.21 | rowdy | what is dcc chat |
| 17:44.41 | wmarone | use /msg to send someone a private message |
| 17:44.54 | wmarone | note that doing so without good reason is annoying |
| 17:45.00 | rowdy | ok |
| 17:45.33 | rowdy | i am currently chatting from My N900.there is no option like that |
| 17:45.57 | wmarone | the /msg command is something you enter where you normally type text |
| 17:46.24 | rowdy | ok |
| 17:46.44 | rowdy | thank you |
| 17:47.28 | rowdy | and what is the command to set a password to my nick |
| 17:47.43 | wmarone | you will need to inquire with nickserv |
| 17:47.54 | wmarone | you can send it "help" and it will show you how |
| 17:48.06 | rowdy | ok.thank you |
| 17:48.17 | rowdy | help |
| 17:48.25 | wmarone | heh |
| 17:48.33 | wmarone | no, you will need to do: /msg nickserv help |
| 17:48.41 | rowdy | lol |
| 17:48.44 | rowdy | i will |
| 17:53.27 | rowdy | register luVusahilU1416@*s udaygandavarapu@gmail.com |
| 17:53.37 | wmarone | :/ |
| 17:53.45 | wmarone | you forgot the /msg nickserv |
| 17:53.57 | rowdy | ok |
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| 18:04.17 | rowdy | lol |
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| 19:09.20 | Sicelo | tzafrir: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/releases/7.0.1/maemo5-gtk/en-US/ |
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| 19:10.29 | tzafrir | Sicelo, right. And that was the last one |
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| 19:19.10 | DocScrutinizer | wmarone: you maybe should've told him about /query |
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| 19:30.28 | Sicelo | what's the difference, if any, between gconftool and gconftool-2? |
| 19:32.20 | Sicelo | hmm, ls -al gave me the answer. it is just one tool, at least for maemo |
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| 21:09.45 | fosstux | Hi! When I plugin my N900 to my USB Port, I only can access 8 GB of memory. How can I repartition it from my linux box? |
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| 21:12.46 | merlin1991 | only 8gb? are you sure it's an n900? :D |
| 21:12.50 | luke-jr | … |
| 21:12.58 | luke-jr | N900 only has 256 MB of memory. |
| 21:13.04 | luke-jr | maybe you mean disk spac.e |
| 21:13.18 | merlin1991 | come on luke-jr stop nitpicking :D |
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| 21:18.10 | fosstux | merlin1991: yes I am sure |
| 21:18.31 | fosstux | I'm also havbing issues updating some of the catalogues... |
| 21:19.09 | merlin1991 | you should have around 27GB of disk space avaiable from your pc |
| 21:19.19 | merlin1991 | did you get the phone like this? |
| 21:20.22 | fosstux | well - irt is a phone which a friend was using - he was playing around a lot. |
| 21:20.30 | merlin1991 | if you just got the phone newly and would like to bring it into proper state flashing emmc and rootfs would be the way to go |
| 21:20.38 | merlin1991 | that should give you a clean start |
| 21:20.48 | fosstux | I'd like to get the n900 to the factory settings. |
| 21:20.59 | fosstux | I already flashed the combined image. |
| 21:20.59 | merlin1991 | then flash emmc and rootfs |
| 21:21.01 | merlin1991 | ~flasihng |
| 21:21.05 | merlin1991 | ~flashing |
| 21:21.05 | infobot | i guess maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 21:21.07 | Sicelo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.16 | merlin1991 | Sicelo: I bet on nitroid |
| 21:21.39 | Sicelo | heh :P |
| 21:21.45 | merlin1991 | fosstux: especially section http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Flashing_the_eMMC_in_the_N900 is interesting for you |
| 21:22.02 | merlin1991 | that should bring your partition tabels back into order |
| 21:22.08 | merlin1991 | you do have to reflash rootfs though todo that |
| 21:22.25 | merlin1991 | but then you should have a device just like new |
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| 21:26.07 | chem|st | ~lockcode |
| 21:26.07 | infobot | it has been said that lockcode is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=524522#post524522 |
| 21:27.25 | fosstux | df -h says: /dev/mmcblk0p2 - 2 GB size, /dev/mmcblk0p1 - 8GB size |
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| 21:28.28 | merlin1991 | fosstux: and fdisk -l |
| 21:28.32 | merlin1991 | (as root) |
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| 21:31.30 | fosstux | fdisk: command not found |
| 21:31.36 | fosstux | do you mean sfdisk? |
| 21:32.06 | merlin1991 | apparently |
| 21:32.09 | fosstux | ok - got it |
| 21:32.20 | merlin1991 | seems like my busybox comes with a symlink somehow |
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| 21:32.41 | merlin1991 | (I got busybox power) it contains fdisk |
| 21:33.28 | merlin1991 | fosstux: if that table shows you all kinds of fud partitions you're better of completely reflashing (emmc and combined) |
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| 21:36.39 | fosstux | mmcblk0p1: fat 32, 8GB; mmcblk0p2: linux 2GB, mmcblk0p3: swap,768MB; mmcblk0p4: linux, 19GB |
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| 21:40.22 | Sicelo | i want to shrink MyDocs actually, possibly without a reflash |
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| 21:44.29 | fosstux | where can I download the fiasco rootfs image? |
| 21:44.41 | NIN101 | ~flash |
| 21:44.41 | infobot | well, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 21:44.45 | fosstux | Or is it enough to flash the emmc and then the combined? |
| 21:45.10 | fosstux | sorry, I wa blind |
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| 21:46.35 | BCMM_ | What is the current state of Office suites on maemo? what should i use to edit a spreadsheet (ODS preferably)? |
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| 21:47.15 | BCMM_ | i tried freoffice but it has rough edges (kb focus issues) and seems abandonned |
| 21:47.34 | Sicelo | gnumeric? |
| 21:49.25 | BCMM_ | i'll have a look. is that adapted for maemo or just plain gnumeric? |
| 21:49.57 | Sicelo | kinda adapted |
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| 21:51.24 | BCMM_ | does it do ods? |
| 21:52.02 | BCMM_ | also, what is miniGnumeric? |
| 21:58.41 | fosstux | So I'm trying to flash the emmc using this command: ./flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f |
| 21:59.05 | x29a | good for you |
| 21:59.10 | fosstux | All I'm getting is Error claiming USB interface: Device or resource busy |
| 21:59.39 | x29a | is anything else running on the usb device? |
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| 22:01.44 | Sicelo | yes BCMM_. it does ODS. i don't know about miniGnumeric, but Gnumeric has served my needs well so far. can also read/write xlsx if u need compatibility with M$ |
| 22:01.48 | totalizator | fosstux: are you root? |
| 22:02.46 | BCMM_ | Sicelo: thanks |
| 22:06.05 | fosstux | totalizator: yes |
| 22:07.26 | totalizator | fosstux: then try some livecd distro; I had to use one as the flasher won't work with Arch Linux |
| 22:09.46 | Sicelo | n900 is switched off fosstux? |
| 22:11.25 | fosstux | yes |
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| 22:11.50 | fosstux | I've burned the gparted live cd - will this work as well? |
| 22:12.05 | Sicelo | i doubt. |
| 22:12.12 | Sicelo | what os u on right now? |
| 22:12.23 | fosstux | Fedora 16, 64bit |
| 22:13.09 | Sicelo | get a debian based live distro, eg knoppix, ubuntu, etc u don't need anything fancy |
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| 22:15.58 | ZogG_laptop | or use rescuecd |
| 22:16.06 | ZogG_laptop | based on gentoo |
| 22:16.28 | ZogG_laptop | BCMM_: hey |
| 22:16.33 | ZogG_laptop | long time no see |
| 22:18.13 | totalizator | fosstux: you can try the gparted livecd, why not? |
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| 22:29.22 | ChikuLinu__ | Ìû |
| 22:32.46 | BCMM_ | ZogG: good day |
| 22:34.45 | ZogG_laptop | BCMM_: how are you? |
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| 22:35.33 | BCMM_ | i'm ok |
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| 23:18.15 | MrOpposite | Hmm |
| 23:18.24 | MrOpposite | I think I'm putting my n900 to the limit here... |
| 23:18.31 | MrOpposite | I'm running rlvm on it |
| 23:18.41 | MrOpposite | and playing a Visual Novel designed for desktops |
| 23:19.06 | MrOpposite | Well the sound works smoothly atleast :D |
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| 23:27.25 | luke-jr | rlvm? |
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| 23:42.11 | MrOpposite | It's a linux implementation of key's visual novel engine |
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| 23:42.48 | luke-jr | MrOpposite: pfft, that's nothing |
| 23:43.02 | luke-jr | MrOpposite: I'm running Gentoo in a chroot, compiling KDE on my N900 |
| 23:43.16 | MrOpposite | heh, cool |
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| 23:43.31 | MrOpposite | Will kde run smooth? |
| 23:44.00 | DocScrutinizer | will it ever finish building? :-P |
| 23:44.06 | luke-jr | MrOpposite: probably better than Maemo |
| 23:44.09 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: yes |
| 23:44.23 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: now qt-webkit, not so sure… I linked it on my desktop in qemu <.< |
| 23:44.38 | luke-jr | that monster requires at least 300 MB RAM to link |
| 23:44.47 | DocScrutinizer | haha |
| 23:44.51 | MrOpposite | hehe |
| 23:44.56 | DocScrutinizer | swap hell |
| 23:45.09 | luke-jr | srsly |
| 23:45.29 | MrOpposite | I just want som goddamn ingame footage... |
| 23:45.40 | MrOpposite | but it takes forever to get past the white intro screen... |
| 23:45.54 | MrOpposite | I think I've been stuck on it for like 50 minutes now |
| 23:46.16 | luke-jr | http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/gentoo-n900/packages/hardfp/gcc45/kde-base/ |
| 23:46.23 | luke-jr | ^ ingame footage of KDE/Gentoo/N900 |
| 23:46.24 | MrOpposite | It would've been okay if it didn't need user interaction |
| 23:46.38 | luke-jr | MrOpposite: you should get Steins;Gate to run |
| 23:46.46 | MrOpposite | I watched the anime |
| 23:46.48 | MrOpposite | But yea |
| 23:46.55 | MrOpposite | I should play the VN too |
| 23:47.15 | DocScrutinizer | well, swap hell is nothing unique to N900 - I several time brought my 300MHz P-II with 496MB RAM to a grinding halt, by simply opening some 50MB file in a text editor accidentally |
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| 23:47.54 | DocScrutinizer | not even doing this idiocy as normal user will help to keep the system responsive |
| 23:48.12 | aholler_ | change editor ;) |
| 23:48.16 | DocScrutinizer | sure |
| 23:48.26 | DocScrutinizer | was some crapy Qt-based editor |
| 23:48.43 | DocScrutinizer | where each char is a rich text object X-P |
| 23:49.25 | MrOpposite | I GOT PAST THE WHITE INTRO! |
| 23:49.26 | DocScrutinizer | Qobject QtTextEdit("richtext",...) |
| 23:49.27 | MrOpposite | Sorry for yelling |
| 23:49.32 | MrOpposite | But I'm so happy right now |
| 23:50.42 | MrOpposite | ... |
| 23:50.52 | MrOpposite | Now I'm stuck at the second part of the intro |
| 23:50.57 | MrOpposite | the BLACK intro-screen! |
| 23:51.21 | DocScrutinizer | the memory needed by QtTextEdit is ~15 times the char count of the text to edit, and the really funny bit: on closing the amount doubles |
| 23:51.32 | DocScrutinizer | to ~30 times |
| 23:51.40 | MrOpposite | That seems like bad coding to me... |
| 23:51.46 | DocScrutinizer | sure it is |
| 23:52.02 | DocScrutinizer | the above applies to Qt3 though |
| 23:52.11 | MrOpposite | Okay |
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