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| 01:02.18 | DocScrutinizer | could somebody please paste result of #> apt-cache policy maemosec-certman-applet | grep Installed ; on a PR1.3.1 without CSSU? |
| 01:05.42 | LaoLang_cool | let me try |
| 01:07.42 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: Installed: 0.1.4+0m5 |
| 01:08.01 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: I'm not sure if mine is PR1.3.1 |
| 01:08.05 | DocScrutinizer | and you installed latest Nokia security update? |
| 01:08.14 | DocScrutinizer | aah yes |
| 01:08.20 | LaoLang_cool | But I'm sure mine is winout CSSU |
| 01:08.30 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: yes, latest updated |
| 01:09.25 | DocScrutinizer | osso-product-info | grep OSSO_PRODUCT_RELEASE_VERSION |
| 01:09.53 | DocScrutinizer | OSSO_PRODUCT_RELEASE_VERSION='21.2011.38-1' |
| 01:10.00 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: OSSO_PRODUCT_RELEASE_VERSION='21.2011.38-1.002' |
| 01:10.11 | LaoLang_cool | Seems I'm newer :) |
| 01:10.19 | DocScrutinizer | mhm, locale version 002, USA I guess |
| 01:10.24 | LaoLang_cool | s/I'm/mine is/ |
| 01:10.35 | LaoLang_cool | hmm, got it |
| 01:11.23 | DocScrutinizer | so I'm not wiser than before, but thanks anyway :-) |
| 01:12.03 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: but still wise haha |
| 01:12.20 | DocScrutinizer | just updated to Tmaemo1 CSSU and wonder if I actually got the newest security patches now |
| 01:13.21 | DocScrutinizer | <<-- idiot, should have checked versions *before* update |
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| 01:25.55 | DocScrutinizer | is it just me, or does a line like >>500 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages<< not really match any of the repos listed in sources.list? To me this looks like a bug in apt-cache policy |
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| 01:26.50 | DocScrutinizer | I mean I got: |
| 01:26.53 | DocScrutinizer | deb https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ |
| 01:26.54 | DocScrutinizer | deb https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0 ./ |
| 01:26.56 | DocScrutinizer | deb https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle1.2/ovi/ ./ |
| 01:27.35 | DocScrutinizer | and now which of the three the above line is referring to, the heck! |
| 01:28.45 | DocScrutinizer | seems to me like apt-cache "forgets" to print the most releavnt part of that info: the subdir |
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| 01:34.40 | DocScrutinizer | anyway CSSU update to Tmaemo1 seems to go smoothly |
| 01:35.46 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: what's wrong? |
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| 01:51.04 | DocScrutinizer | there were strange rants from those who should know, about updates of those pkgs not being done correctly on Tmaemo1 |
| 01:52.58 | DocScrutinizer | I dunno if Tmaemo1 now got those pkgs locally in the right version, or it included them from Nokia official repo (my preferred variant anyway), or it did not update at all and my investigations on that state of pks (see above) are poor |
| 01:54.13 | DocScrutinizer | anyway I don't care much about if settings->certificates shows revoked certs as valid now or not, the rest of update seems to work and that's the relevant part for me |
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| 02:16.41 | Psi | hm.. anyone know if china post is handling the xmas load, want to order some stuff |
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| 02:22.12 | mykhal | i have a nokia n900 and tmobile service. is it possible to download tmobile apps? |
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| 02:50.32 | luke-jr | wtf is tmobile apps? |
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| 03:37.51 | DocScrutinizer | probably some app provided by T-Mo, as usual without explicitly mentioning what platform they are meant for (usual bad habit when offering windows programs, seems it proliferates to "app" as well) |
| 03:39.45 | DocScrutinizer | so the definition of a human being changed from "owns a PC with windoze" to "owns a PC with windoze and a fruitphone" |
| 03:39.56 | SpeedEvil | I noticed that my t-mobile SIM has sim-toolkit stuff on the n950 |
| 03:40.00 | SpeedEvil | It doesn't seem to work. |
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| 03:41.24 | DocScrutinizer | where and how would you access SAT stuff, under HARM? |
| 03:41.41 | SpeedEvil | It's in apps |
| 03:41.47 | DocScrutinizer | mhm |
| 03:41.54 | DocScrutinizer | weird |
| 03:42.02 | SpeedEvil | 'interactive' |
| 03:42.13 | SpeedEvil | With something that sorta looks like a black and white SIM |
| 03:43.16 | DocScrutinizer | now if only I had a SIM with some of that SAT junk on it |
| 03:44.51 | SpeedEvil | It doesn't work somewhat - for example, the 'request balance' doesn't do anything |
| 03:45.00 | DocScrutinizer | hah |
| 03:45.21 | DocScrutinizer | nice however, does *#67# do sth? |
| 03:47.14 | DocScrutinizer | on any decent phone you have an option to allow SAT, and to configure if it may work unsolicited or only on interactive event, etc |
| 03:48.25 | DocScrutinizer | I guess "request balance" just would send sth like *111# |
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| 03:50.17 | DocScrutinizer | probably on HARM disabling SAT functions is sth that aegis will protect users from |
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| 03:57.38 | SpeedEvil | 'call divert not active' |
| 03:57.49 | SpeedEvil | In a popup. |
| 03:58.03 | DocScrutinizer | good, so at least this works as expected on that device |
| 03:58.38 | DocScrutinizer | so I gather *111# et al USSD should work as well |
| 03:59.54 | DocScrutinizer | which in turn might mean there's a bug in SAT API not allowing it to "dial" *111# or whatever, to "get balance" |
| 04:00.33 | DocScrutinizer | I'd not be surprised |
| 04:00.40 | SpeedEvil | 111 doesn't do anything. |
| 04:00.52 | SpeedEvil | It sits there at 'requesting' |
| 04:01.02 | SpeedEvil | Possibly. |
| 04:01.06 | DocScrutinizer | dunno what's your provider's 'number' for bal |
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| 04:03.29 | DocScrutinizer | *100# *101# *110# *111# *120# all can be found somewhere for some provider |
| 04:04.20 | DocScrutinizer | dunno if there are even USSD codes >199 or if that's forbidden by specs |
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| 04:05.13 | DocScrutinizer | 00..99 anyway are reserved for network control codes |
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| 04:06.17 | DocScrutinizer | aah I forgot: some providers seem to use *#nnn# |
| 04:06.49 | DocScrutinizer | which is somewhat more sane and inline with the way control codes work |
| 04:07.42 | SpeedEvil | Hmm. |
| 04:07.51 | SpeedEvil | I should look it up - but going to sleep. Night! |
| 04:08.01 | DocScrutinizer | night SpeedEvil |
| 04:08.22 | DocScrutinizer | what's your provider? |
| 04:09.15 | DocScrutinizer | (damn, I used to know it) |
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| 04:36.12 | SpeedEvil | t-mobile |
| 04:36.16 | SpeedEvil | (for that SIM) |
| 04:36.20 | SpeedEvil | (uk) |
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| 04:44.20 | DocScrutinizer | for t-mo I think it was *101# |
| 04:46.02 | DocScrutinizer | ooops, *100# |
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| 06:26.00 | internetishard | I want to replace the 3.5mm jack on my n900. What do you guys recommend? |
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| 06:28.56 | luke-jr | not doing it |
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| 06:29.32 | internetishard | Why? |
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| 06:32.23 | internetishard | luke-jr |
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| 06:32.50 | luke-jr | internetishard: because it's fine as-is and if you break it, you're screwed? |
| 06:34.01 | psycho_oreos | "don't fuck with it if its not broken" concept? :) |
| 06:36.01 | LaoLang_cool | I agree the original's quality is good enough |
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| 06:36.32 | LaoLang_cool | Lisening to the music is a so good feeling with it |
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| 06:37.53 | internetishard | I broke it |
| 06:37.56 | internetishard | Why am I screwed? |
| 06:38.01 | internetishard | and it be re-soldered? |
| 06:38.55 | internetishard | i have to keep moving the headphone jack to make it stereo and it doesn't detect headsets anymore |
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| 06:39.08 | internetishard | those two variables combined convince me that it is hardware and not software |
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| 06:44.28 | LaoLang_cool | :( |
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| 07:12.33 | DocScrutinizer | internetishard: the 3.5mm receptacle isn't soldered |
| 07:13.23 | internetishard | DocScrutinizer what do you recommend? |
| 07:13.32 | DocScrutinizer | it's a replaceable part, a block pf plastic with some gold plated springs |
| 07:13.44 | DocScrutinizer | I recommend Nokia care center |
| 07:13.56 | internetishard | what'll they do? |
| 07:14.11 | DocScrutinizer | dismantle, swap, reassemble |
| 07:14.24 | internetishard | change it out for some price? You think they'd give me a new one to use a while? |
| 07:14.26 | DocScrutinizer | should take less than 30min |
| 07:14.43 | internetishard | no fkn way. Any places like that in the US... san fran? |
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| 07:15.59 | DocScrutinizer | I'm not Nokia customer help desk, I have no idea |
| 07:16.32 | DocScrutinizer | I just can tell you what it takes technically to replace the 3.5mm receptacle |
| 07:17.19 | internetishard | Cool, I just can't do without my phone for a day |
| 07:17.27 | internetishard | I'll look into it |
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| 09:20.20 | backtrackmobile | hi guys |
| 09:20.31 | backtrackmobile | can someone help me with bash? |
| 09:21.59 | backtrackmobile | i'm creating a bash script to keep the battery life, it will be a daemon that check the battery state and that disabls some features like (wifi etc) |
| 09:22.24 | backtrackmobile | i have the code but i have a problem with a some lines |
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| 09:29.49 | backtrackmobile | this is my code http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1126246&postcount=1 it has to write a profile in a txt file, but just in some cases like if different from silent mode |
| 09:30.07 | backtrackmobile | can someone help me with that? |
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| 11:10.42 | infobot | pali <~quassel@unaffiliated/pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 14h 4m 37s ago, saying: 'X-Fade, maemo package interface still not see two new versions of kernel-power, please look at it'. |
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| 12:42.29 | kwtm2 | I pinned a package before, with /etc/apt/preferences, but can't remember how to do it any more, so I'm just following what I previously did by rote. Can someone explain the following line please: "Pin: version 20.2010.36-2maemo13*" --what is the asterisk at the end for? |
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| 12:51.31 | kwtm2 | dead? Or am I just not connected properly? |
| 12:51.38 | kwtm2 | infobot |
| 12:51.49 | kwtm2 | infobot answer me to show you hear me |
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| 12:55.55 | merlin1991 | kwtm2: not dead here |
| 12:56.11 | merlin1991 | I guess the * is a wildcard for anything |
| 12:56.29 | kwtm2 | Hey, it's merlin1991! You're the guy who's hosting the repositories in case the main maemo repository goes down. |
| 12:56.35 | kwtm2 | At least, for the CSSU updates. |
| 12:56.53 | merlin1991 | cssu, extras and extras-devel :D |
| 12:57.18 | kwtm2 | I tried to do apt-get install mp-fremantle-community-pr but it said there was no such package. Is there a reason? Is it down? It's reachable by web browser. |
| 12:57.30 | kwtm2 | What I mean is, http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/ is reachable by web browser. |
| 12:57.50 | merlin1991 | is it in your katalouge still? |
| 12:57.58 | kwtm2 | I've upgraded CSSU before, about a year ago, but pinned the package so new bugs wouldn't get me. Now I want to upgrade to the latest but somehow I can't. |
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| 12:58.20 | kwtm2 | merlin1991: Yes, I still have this in a file under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cssu.list : |
| 12:58.39 | kwtm2 | "deb http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/ fremantle free non-free" |
| 12:59.06 | merlin1991 | apt-cache poliy mp-fremanlte-community-pr tells you anything? |
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| 12:59.45 | kwtm2 | When I do apt-cache policy mp-fremantle-community-pr it says // Installed: 20.2010.36-2maemo13 // Candidate: (none) |
| 13:00.17 | kwtm2 | It also says this: // 20.2010.36-2maemo0 1001 // 500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages |
| 13:00.29 | kwtm2 | Does that mean it hit a 500 error while searching? Should I just try again? |
| 13:02.27 | kwtm2 | Oh oh. I did apt-get update again and got this: "GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY ADB4438160A655EF". Maybe that's why it's pretending that CSSU doesn't exist. |
| 13:04.00 | kwtm2 | Hmm... Google search seems to indicate that this is not related to my problem, just saying that some old deprecated package is no longer signed, but it doesn't seem to affect me. |
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| 13:05.59 | kwtm2 | merlin1991: Is your repository still at http://87.106.163.159/maemo/community-testing/ ? |
| 13:06.12 | merlin1991 | yes |
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| 13:10.01 | Juozapas | where i can find what's new on this update ? |
| 13:11.35 | kwtm2 | When I try to apt-get update, I get "W: Conflicting distribution: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3 Release (expected fremantle-1.3 but got )" even after I put in your mirror, so it must be my own setup. |
| 13:11.50 | kwtm2 | Juozapas: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog |
| 13:13.20 | Juozapas | thx |
| 13:16.32 | merlin1991 | kwtm2: do you have extras-devel enabled? |
| 13:16.55 | merlin1991 | what is your "distribution" value for it if you have it enabled? |
| 13:17.43 | kwtm2 | merlin1991: Oh! Is that what it is? I made sure I had extras, but not sure about extras-devel. Somehow it's not just disabled, it doesn't even show up (at least not in Faster Application Manager). Maybe I'll go back to the original App Manager --I only have to put up with it once a year when I update CSSU, anyway. |
| 13:17.56 | kwtm2 | merlin1991: Not sure about "distribution" value. Is that the pin priority? |
| 13:18.06 | merlin1991 | nope |
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| 13:18.15 | merlin1991 | that's is part of the cataloge definition |
| 13:18.28 | merlin1991 | s/'s// |
| 13:19.57 | kwtm2 | merlin1991: Not sure where to find it. I am now checking if extras-devel is enabled. It's has taken about 60 seconds so far in App Manager and still waiting (a nice reminder of why I can't stand that piece of software). |
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| 13:20.46 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 13:21.08 | merlin1991 | you'll see it there when you finally have the different repos listed there |
| 13:21.46 | kwtm2 | merlin1991: Aha. extras-devel failed to refresh; also has error: "Hash sum mismatch" http:// ... /binary-armel/Packages.gz" Oh, you mean which version of distribution. It's fremantle-1.3 |
| 13:22.03 | kwtm2 | Will re-enable extras-devel anyway and see if it refreshes. Is this necessary for CSSU? |
| 13:23.42 | DocScrutinizer | [Notice] -kloeri- [Global Notice] Hi all, it's time to continue our ircd upgrades so we'll have a few netsplits as wolfe and hubbard is restarted. It will be somewhat noisy with just shy of 4000 people affected but shouldn't take long. Thank you for using freenode. |
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| 13:24.26 | merlin1991 | kwtm2: it is not necessary |
| 13:24.31 | DocScrutinizer | starting with 317 |
| 13:24.46 | merlin1991 | but change the distribution to fremantle on extras -devel |
| 13:24.51 | merlin1991 | then you get rid of that one warning |
| 13:28.27 | kwtm2 | merlin1991: Ok, so for now I'll ignore the warning (it has a few issues of its own that I dont' want to get sidetracked on) but the question is why doesn't apt-cache policy mp-fremantle-community-pr show an upgradable package? |
| 13:28.55 | kwtm2 | Ohhh... wait. There's an error in http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog Geez! |
| 13:29.29 | kwtm2 | It says "20.2010.36-maemo16.8" but I strongly suspect that it should say "20.2010.36-2maemo16.8" (with a "2" in front of the "maemo") |
| 13:29.50 | DocScrutinizer | kwtm2: apt-cache search community |
| 13:30.34 | kwtm2 | I'm pinning to a non-existent package version because I was asking for a version that doesn't have the "2" in front of the "maemo". Will try again. |
| 13:31.02 | LaoLang_cool | does built-in mail client support topic mode? |
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| 13:32.44 | DocScrutinizer | kwtm2: http://paste.debian.net/146369/ |
| 13:34.11 | Pali | ping freemangordon |
| 13:34.33 | kwtm2 | DocScrutinizer: Thx for the paste. That's the same thing I got when I did apt-cache policy mp-fremantle-community-pr. That's where I finally noticed that the current version had "2" in front of the "maemo". I thought "500" meant "version not found" but I guess it means something else. |
| 13:34.44 | DocScrutinizer | freenode -kloeri- seems to love the suspense :-P |
| 13:35.10 | kwtm2 | Can I go correct the error in http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog ? It's a wiki page, right? |
| 13:35.16 | DocScrutinizer | AIUI 500 is priority |
| 13:35.35 | Pali | ~seen freemangordon |
| 13:35.42 | infobot | freemangordon is currently on #maemo (2h 26m 2s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 2h 25m 3s, last said: '~seen pali'. |
| 13:35.42 | DocScrutinizer | right |