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| 00:02.03 | DocScrutinizer | does it come with libsmscb.so patch? or is that not needed anymore? |
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| 00:11.44 | jonwil | it does come with the libsms patch yes |
| 00:11.58 | jonwil | that will always be required since Nokia wont be fixing libsms.so |
| 00:12.37 | jonwil | if you have an old version installed, you will need to uninstall it first btw |
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| 05:10.23 | Macer | wow |
| 05:10.49 | Macer | there is no way the USPS is telling me that getting my hard drives will take 3 weeks :) from New Jersey to Chicago takes 3 weeks? |
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| 05:10.55 | Macer | is it coming on horseback? |
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| 05:15.41 | SpeedEvil | Macer: They ship it by boat. |
| 05:15.52 | Macer | from nj? :) |
| 05:15.57 | SpeedEvil | Yes. |
| 05:16.03 | SpeedEvil | That's why it's slow. |
| 05:16.04 | Macer | you would think train would be easier |
| 05:16.10 | Macer | wow.. that's unexpected |
| 05:16.40 | SpeedEvil | makes stuff up. |
| 05:18.26 | Macer | haha |
| 05:18.27 | Macer | :-P |
| 05:18.36 | Macer | you had me there for a minute |
| 05:18.56 | slonopotamus | yawns |
| 05:18.58 | Macer | last thing i got from nj took like a week |
| 05:19.08 | Macer | but this is 4 hard drives. i'm sure it has a bit more weight |
| 05:19.25 | Macer | 4x3TB :) for my little synology beast |
| 05:20.46 | Macer | i'm really loving having an n900 again |
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| 05:21.35 | slonopotamus | huh... do you see microusb connector in horror dreams each day? |
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| 05:27.10 | slonopotamus | hmm... i have an email that bugs modest. when i hit reply, "To" field is empty |
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| 05:36.53 | Macer | yes |
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| 05:37.52 | Macer | sometimes i flash back to when my other one broke |
| 05:37.59 | Macer | the sadness.... the tears.. the loss |
| 05:38.38 | Macer | i am honestly curious if the one i have now (made in finland) has the same type of defect of a weak usb port |
| 05:38.46 | Macer | or if it was just a typical asian factory thing |
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| 05:51.42 | gggs | Macer: how old was your N900 when it broke? |
| 05:52.59 | Macer | gggs: roughtly a year and a half? |
| 05:53.58 | gggs | also, I ordered something from the US via USPS (I'm Australian), saying "delivery in 6-10 days" and it's been 21 so far |
| 05:54.26 | gggs | Macer: hmm, that's about how old mine is |
| 05:54.40 | congo | cant you just resolder it? |
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| 05:55.02 | congo | theres a cap between the USB port and the case, of like 1mm, seems a design flaw |
| 05:55.08 | congo | s/cap/gap/ |
| 05:55.16 | congo | wow thx |
| 05:55.50 | congo | hopefully mine doesnt break till some jWIN/COBY phone that runs Mer is out |
| 05:56.13 | slonopotamus | congo: that's not a design flaw. real design flaw is that connector isn't held by _anything_ except by its pits soldered to motherboard. |
| 05:56.19 | Macer | congo: no |
| 05:56.21 | Macer | tried |
| 05:56.25 | Macer | had a buddy try |
| 05:56.33 | Macer | almost impossible.. i don't care what anybody here says :) |
| 05:56.39 | congo | i believe you |
| 05:56.44 | congo | the solder pads are proably underneath it |
| 05:56.49 | congo | youd have to 'reflow the entire pcb |
| 05:57.01 | congo | and proably melt something else in process |
| 05:57.13 | slonopotamus | *pins, i meant |
| 05:57.39 | congo | if metal shield deforms too its a biatch |
| 05:57.50 | gggs | no epoxy? |
| 05:58.22 | congo | cant they do a run of 1000 or maybe 10,000 N950s, seems like theyd sell |
| 05:58.36 | congo | apparently we'r too small a niche to matter |
| 05:58.45 | Macer | slonopotamus: i thought there wer a couple points |
| 05:58.49 | Macer | where the battery is connected |
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| 05:58.57 | Macer | on the wings of the port |
| 05:59.12 | psycho_oreos | there's rumours otherwise that all the spare N950 are stored in their warehouses collecting dust, nokia offices around the world doing nothing more than sitting pretty |
| 05:59.45 | Macer | psycho_oreos: let's rob them |
| 05:59.48 | slonopotamus | when my broke, they simply replaced the whole mb |
| 06:00.00 | congo | semes likely. nobody would do a run of 250, not worth it |
| 06:00.06 | Macer | slonopotamus: well nowadays you get an e7 :) |
| 06:00.07 | congo | praobly 9750 of them are hiding, at least |
| 06:00.30 | slonopotamus | Macer: it has kb? |
| 06:00.35 | Macer | yes |
| 06:00.40 | Macer | but runs symbian |
| 06:00.52 | luke-jr | peers at slonopotamus |
| 06:01.08 | psycho_oreos | I wouldn't say 250 were handed out, the qt event had 300 to hand out and not to mention if one went to qt conference or something in finland, you get a free N950 |
| 06:01.15 | slonopotamus | luke-jr: what? |
| 06:01.24 | luke-jr | slonopotamus: you're like never online :p |
| 06:01.33 | Macer | psycho_oreos: i still say we should just rob them |
| 06:01.35 | psycho_oreos | and supposedly an unknown number of N950 were handed out to commercial devs |
| 06:01.51 | luke-jr | psycho_oreos: I got ignored on the N950 :/ |
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| 06:02.03 | Macer | because you weren't developing on it |
| 06:02.07 | psycho_oreos | luke-jr, better than me, I got rejected |
| 06:02.07 | Macer | you were putting gentoo on it |
| 06:02.10 | Macer | :) |
| 06:02.18 | slonopotamus_ | luke-jr: meh, you scared my 3g connection |
| 06:02.55 | luke-jr | slonopotamus_: lol |
| 06:03.09 | luke-jr | Macer: far more productive than any Ovi cra |
| 06:03.11 | luke-jr | crap* |
| 06:03.35 | congo | yh i run debian/e17+illume |
| 06:03.38 | luke-jr | hmm |
| 06:03.42 | Macer | luke-jr: fair point |
| 06:03.50 | Macer | tell them you want to put it on the ovi store :) |
| 06:03.51 | luke-jr | I figured since my USB didn't break in over a year I'm pretty safe :| |
| 06:03.54 | Macer | then they'd be all ears |
| 06:03.56 | luke-jr | lol |
| 06:03.58 | Macer | and pkg it properly |
| 06:04.09 | slonopotamus_ | luke-jr: join #openwrt-devel, mb__ there is the guy who works on openwrt kernel for n8x0. he needs help with charging stuff. |
| 06:04.10 | Macer | with pretty pictures |
| 06:04.23 | luke-jr | Macer: notably, people have been pointing out that N950 is way too closed to even try to put Gentoo on it |
| 06:04.34 | Macer | i am sure it is |
| 06:04.37 | Macer | as well as the n9 |
| 06:04.37 | luke-jr | slonopotamus_: you know we never got any specs on charging n8x0 |
| 06:04.49 | Macer | didn't we have this "open" discussion a while back? :) there is no such thing as an open device |
| 06:04.51 | psycho_oreos | N950 is not as crap as N9 |
| 06:05.08 | Macer | psycho_oreos: same thing with a qwerty |
| 06:05.18 | Macer | actually.. doesn't the n950 have less specs than the n9 hw wise? |
| 06:05.23 | psycho_oreos | at least I've been told that N950 can accept bluetooth keyboard, N9 can't even do that.. what a load of crap |
| 06:05.27 | Macer | like a slower cpu clock speed or something? |
| 06:05.52 | slonopotamus_ | luke-jr: have you seen https://github.com/slonopotamus/n8x0-overlay/blob/master/sys-kernel/n8x0-sources/files/3.1.1/900-n810-battery-management.patch |
| 06:05.55 | Macer | yeah that is pretty lame |
| 06:06.01 | luke-jr | slonopotamus_: noi |
| 06:06.22 | Macer | openwrt for n8x0/ |
| 06:06.25 | Macer | nice :) |
| 06:06.35 | Macer | but i don't see how that works |
| 06:06.36 | luke-jr | slonopotamus: N810 would be a whole lot more useful, if the battery worked |
| 06:06.43 | Macer | usb ethernet? |
| 06:07.01 | luke-jr | Macer: nobody said it was for a router |
| 06:07.08 | Macer | oh.. then for what? |
| 06:07.15 | Macer | low powered linux on n8x0? |
| 06:07.20 | Macer | ipkg ftw? :) |
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| 06:08.05 | luke-jr | slonopotamus: what's your Gitorious name so I can let you push direct to the overlay? |
| 06:08.18 | slonopotamus | luke-jr: you won't believe |
| 06:08.37 | slonopotamus | luke-jr: suddenly, slonopotamus too |
| 06:09.02 | luke-jr | ponders how your repo managed to get conflicting |
| 06:09.02 | slonopotamus | though i still think github is better :P |
| 06:09.09 | luke-jr | it sucks |
| 06:09.42 | slonopotamus | it has a bugtracker and wiki |
| 06:09.52 | luke-jr | speaking of which |
| 06:09.56 | luke-jr | Removed memory-reducing flags from profiles/arch/arm/n8x0-common/make.defaults since they're hard to override <-- why? |
| 06:11.37 | slonopotamus | luke-jr: because i didn't want them when compiling in qemu. so either i have to copypaste whole CFLAGS but remove memory options or one who wants them just says CFLAGS="$CFLAGS --cool-memory-stuff" in his make.conf |
| 06:11.48 | luke-jr | i c |
| 06:12.01 | luke-jr | maybe a qemu profile would make sense |
| 06:12.15 | luke-jr | -Os was replaced with -O2 since -Os caused too many stuff to break <-- like what? I didn't see -Os break *anything* |
| 06:12.41 | luke-jr | (including KDE…) |
| 06:12.45 | slonopotamus | most importantly, qt |
| 06:13.18 | luke-jr | KDE uses Qt… |
| 06:13.20 | luke-jr | and worked… |
| 06:13.32 | slonopotamus | also, gcc hanged eating 100% cpu for several packages with -Os |
| 06:13.41 | luke-jr | O.o |
| 06:13.47 | luke-jr | maybe a regression? hmm |
| 06:13.56 | luke-jr | revert kdrive useflag in profiles/arch/arm/n8x0-common/make.defaults <-- ? |
| 06:14.30 | slonopotamus | +kdrive +tslib broke xorg compilation around the time that commit was made |
| 06:14.39 | luke-jr | does it still? |
| 06:14.47 | slonopotamus | there's a b.g.o. entry for that |
| 06:15.00 | slonopotamus | can't remember |
| 06:15.32 | luke-jr | RESOLVED: FIXED 2010-10-04 :p |
| 06:15.35 | congo | if g++ maxes out physical RAM its ugly |
| 06:15.41 | congo | easy to do on 256mb |
| 06:15.56 | luke-jr | stop suggesting xf86-video-fbdev over xf86-video-omapfb <-- omapfb is better now? |
| 06:17.04 | slonopotamus | luke-jr: i think you even had your n810 working when that one was made :) yep, omapfb works good |
| 06:17.15 | slonopotamus | luke-jr: and we even discussed this switch |
| 06:17.23 | luke-jr | O.o |
| 06:17.38 | luke-jr | these things are from after you moved your repo :p |
| 06:17.57 | slonopotamus | ebuild still allows both options as you can see |
| 06:18.00 | luke-jr | why purge 2.6.38.8 ? |
| 06:18.57 | slonopotamus | because that's just a mirror of what openwrt has. and they (well, mb__) maintain only one kernel. |
| 06:19.24 | slonopotamus | enters subway, 3g coverage issues expected |
| 06:19.27 | luke-jr | so 3.1.1 should be at least as usable? |
| 06:19.43 | slonopotamus | luke-jr: it is |
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| 06:21.39 | slonopotamus | luke-jr: if you understand what happens in charging module, you should help mb__ to finish it :) |
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| 06:39.16 | marainein | does maemo generate any internet traffic when you're not using anything on it? |
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| 06:42.05 | SpeedEvil | In gneeral, not much. |
| 06:42.21 | SpeedEvil | It may do more on wifi than on cell - to see if tehre are new packages. |
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| 06:43.00 | congo | apt-get remove osso-updater or something probably fixes that |
| 06:43.18 | congo | hate that yellow triangle |
| 06:45.39 | Sicelo | heh, u want to stop checking for updates? either way, don't remove that package, if it exists |
| 06:46.29 | Sicelo | congo: http://wiki.maemo.org/Customizing_Maemo#Disabling_Auto_Updates_Check |
| 06:47.04 | luke-jr | Sicelo: I hear that breaks stuff even |
| 06:47.22 | Sicelo | oh 0.o |
| 06:47.38 | Sicelo | i've been using that all the time, nothing weird so far |
| 06:47.48 | luke-jr | I think you can't update period with it.. |
| 06:47.52 | luke-jr | except at CLI |
| 06:48.09 | Sicelo | u can. u have to do it manually in HAM |
| 06:48.39 | Sicelo | i did that to update to 1.3.1 |
| 06:49.11 | Sicelo | congo: at your own risk ;) |
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| 06:49.32 | vdv | hi all |
| 06:50.10 | vdv | how can i create hildon menu filters? |
| 06:50.16 | vdv | using qt |
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| 08:28.14 | Gojira | hi all |
| 08:28.32 | Gojira | might anyone know why i can't find /home/user/MyDocs on my N900? |
| 08:28.33 | edheldil | Hi all. Is omweather dead or is there an update for it? |
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| 08:29.00 | edheldil | Gojira: looking from where? |
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| 08:30.35 | Gojira | file manager |
| 08:31.45 | Gojira | i'm trying to install the bleeding edge drivers to /mydocs/. but when it asks where to save them, i can't find it. instead it saved them to my sd card, so i'm tring to move them to the correct folder |
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| 08:35.20 | Gojira | i've only just got the n900. so i'm still trying to figure this stuff out |
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| 08:42.50 | Gojira | Sorry, i got disconnected. Was anyone able to help me out? |
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| 08:54.23 | Sicelo | Gojira: the directory File Manager opens to is /home/user/MyDocs |
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| 09:02.01 | Gojira | ah? ok, that kind of makes sense |
| 09:03.51 | edheldil | Gojira: also make sure that it's not mounted to the PC instead |
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| 09:06.57 | Gojira | thanks Sicelo and Edheldil |
| 09:07.30 | Gojira | and how would i extract files from a tar.gz? |
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| 09:13.30 | edheldil | tar xvzf filename |
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| 09:17.47 | Gojira | i'll lok it up. i've gotta go |
| 09:17.49 | Gojira | thanks |
| 09:17.50 | Gojira | seeya |
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| 09:23.14 | trupheenix | hello |
| 09:23.27 | trupheenix | does anyone know where i can flash the latest N9 Pr1.1 firmware update from? |
| 09:23.51 | Sicelo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:27.06 | trupheenix | Sicelo: ? |
| 09:27.26 | congo | do Hildon/GTK apps run on N9? |
| 09:27.33 | congo | i was never clear on if QT is hooked to a framebufferr or X is still involved |
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| 09:28.28 | trupheenix | congo: it's through X |
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| 09:29.12 | Sicelo | trupheenix: n9 issues are taken care of in #n9 (and #harmattan, for dev stuff) |
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| 09:37.11 | congo | trupheenix: Tizen wil praobly be without X eh? more WebOS style, with EFL crap wrapping webkit? |
| 09:37.22 | congo | id like to continue using Maemo apps, like Maep, on whwatever i upgrade to |
| 09:40.39 | congo | id be perfectly happy installing GCC/GTK/X on an android kernel if that works, and build hildon on up |
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| 09:50.31 | congo | the rasterman thing seems a bit skeptical to me - i'd imagine the would have to roll in an Android VM/emulator somewhere to get normal users interested (wheres my apps?) so who knows if a samsung X/Gtk capable phone will ever come out |
| 09:53.24 | RST38h | Fennec people finally given up: http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2011/11/firefox-for-android-native-android-ui/ |
| 09:53.42 | RST38h | Now, if they can only do the same for Maemo... |
| 09:55.54 | jonwil | wishes someone would try to bring a newer Gecko into MicroB |
| 09:56.04 | jonwil | its definatly possible |
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| 10:33.32 | LaoLang_cool | Do you use cron on maemo? or is there other good replace for schedule tasks? |
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| 10:34.37 | Sicelo | alarmed. there is fcron, and something else too.. i forget |
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| 10:39.18 | LaoLang_cool | Sicelo: thank you, after searching, I think cron is still the best :) |
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| 10:43.16 | LaoLang_cool | ... |
| 10:43.23 | LaoLang_cool | Refer to http://maemo.org/packages/view/cron/ |
| 10:43.41 | LaoLang_cool | 3.0pl1-105 * Ported to Maemo. Artem Bukhonov1970-01-01 00:00 UTC |
| 10:43.53 | LaoLang_cool | 1970-01-01 00:00 UTC? |
| 10:44.25 | Sicelo | :P unix time counts from that moment |
| 10:44.49 | LaoLang_cool | O_o |
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| 11:30.50 | LaoLang_cool | How to backup mms in the fmms? |
| 11:31.53 | LaoLang_cool | I've tried to backup all files under /home/usr/, but still all mms are missing after restored the whole /home/usr |
| 11:36.46 | ruskie | http://www.reghardware.com/2011/11/18/nokia_lumia_900_leaked_in_developer_ad/ <-- and there's differentaiotn there??? |
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| 11:37.54 | frals | LaoLang_cool: copy everything from /home/user/.fmms/ |
| 11:38.07 | LaoLang_cool | frals: no use at all... :( |
| 11:39.03 | LaoLang_cool | I backuped whole /home/user/, including all dot file |
| 11:39.19 | LaoLang_cool | Then reflashed my N900, then extract the backup |
| 11:39.35 | LaoLang_cool | ems works, but mms all disappeared |
| 11:39.44 | LaoLang_cool | s/ems/sms/ |
| 11:39.55 | congo | /home/user/MyDocs is a diff mount than /home |
| 11:40.06 | frals | thats the only place they are stored so copying that should work |
| 11:40.10 | LaoLang_cool | congo: I've umounted it before backup |
| 11:40.19 | congo | as long as your tar traversed mountpoints from /home on down |
| 11:40.33 | LaoLang_cool | I don't think fmms will store mms in Mydoc |
| 11:40.37 | congo | k |
| 11:40.45 | frals | no, its stored in /home/user/.fmms |
| 11:40.56 | frals | unless i changed it, but i dont recall doing that, so it should be there |
| 11:41.09 | frals | just go to that folder and see if there is a .db file there and lots of subfolders |
| 11:42.24 | LaoLang_cool | frals: yes, a mms.db and some subdir |
| 11:44.02 | LaoLang_cool | I will try to restore it again to see if I've made something wrong |
| 11:45.32 | frals | make sure user has permissions for everything |
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| 11:48.39 | LaoLang_cool | frals: cool, my fault, it works, thank you |
| 11:48.52 | LaoLang_cool | frals: How to merge the old mms with new ones? |
| 11:49.12 | ZogG_laptop | frals: have you chosen new name already fo lockscreen mode? |
| 11:49.22 | frals | LaoLang_cool: uh, copying the subfolders and then inserting them manually in to the sqlite db... |
| 11:49.45 | LaoLang_cool | frals: hmm... sounds complicated |
| 11:50.20 | frals | LaoLang_cool: yeah, unfortunately i got a job before implemting that part of functionality |
| 11:50.24 | frals | or well, "unfortuantely" |
| 11:50.38 | frals | ZogG_laptop: not yet... still arguing with ovi qa about some stuff |
| 11:51.08 | LaoLang_cool | frals: oh, I didn't noticed you're the author! |
| 11:51.35 | frals | :-) |
| 11:51.42 | LaoLang_cool | frals: thank you for good job, it should be built-in in maemo |
| 11:51.49 | ZogG_laptop | frals: what's the name you setteled on? |
| 11:52.02 | frals | ZogG_laptop: havent settled yet either.. :D |
| 11:52.26 | LaoLang_cool | frals: I noticed that the pictures all shown at the beginning of mms, is it a bug? |
| 11:52.43 | ZogG_laptop | frals: i twitted you about taptap or simplytap =) |
| 11:53.05 | LaoLang_cool | Some pictures should be at the middle of mms. |
| 11:53.10 | frals | LaoLang_cool: its a feature, usually thats the most important part of the MMS ;o |
| 11:53.30 | frals | and implementing a proper parser was kinda low priority :) |
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| 11:56.10 | LaoLang_cool_ | frals: it's a feature? Can I turn it off? I like to see them at the place they should be, not all at the beginning... |
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| 11:57.11 | frals | LaoLang_cool_: cant be turned off sorry.. i just extract all the images/videos/sounds and place them at the top :( |
| 11:57.59 | LaoLang_cool_ | frals: ok... because I like to see the context of the picture, but at the top, I can't.. |
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| 11:58.47 | frals | LaoLang_cool_: well, if you know python im accepting patches, all the code is at gitorious.org/fmms ;) |
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| 11:59.09 | LaoLang_cool_ | frals: a bug report, I'm using the version at the extra, it works fine, but with extra-devel version, when the screen rotates, fmms will get no response |
| 12:00.16 | LaoLang_cool_ | frals: sorry I don't know :( currently it works fine, I can change myself with it :) |
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| 15:29.07 | DocScrutinizer | ghostcube: to which version? |
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| 15:33.55 | ghostcube | 20.2010.36-2maemo16.8 |
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| 15:37.39 | ghostcube | DocScrutinizer: not correct? |
| 15:37.46 | ghostcube | anything i missed so far? |
| 15:38.10 | DocScrutinizer | nah, I thought maybe MohammadAG managed to *finally* roll out T17.0 |
| 15:38.36 | DocScrutinizer | 16.8 just fine, I heard |
| 15:39.28 | DocScrutinizer | seems we have a roadblock with autobuilder, T17 should be out since 2 or 3 days minimum |
| 15:39.45 | ghostcube | oh ok :) |
| 15:40.02 | ghostcube | i just noticed the whole cssu thing last night and installed it today :) |
| 15:40.26 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: autobuilder doesn't block T17 it's all up to MohammadAG to explain why |
| 15:40.40 | ghostcube | worked ok so far i had to do apt-get update install fremantle-pr cause libqt4-testing was making problems |
| 15:41.01 | ghostcube | but after reboot all works fine |
| 15:41.09 | ghostcube | no problems noticed so far |
| 15:43.48 | DocScrutinizer | well, there are a few known problems that should get fixed in T17 and just circumvented in Stable release which actually is blocked by autobuilder |
| 15:44.30 | DocScrutinizer | mostly related to camera and email |
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| 15:59.19 | ghostcube | ah ok |
| 15:59.21 | ghostcube | :) |
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| 17:04.07 | badcloud | how do I display hw kbd layout? I installed package but can't see it |
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| 17:11.27 | purr | what do you mean display? |
| 17:11.58 | badcloud | purr: well, it's not there |
| 17:12.09 | purr | like.. cat /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51 |
| 17:12.11 | badcloud | I think it doesn't work with Hebrew hw kbd layout |
| 17:12.18 | DocScrutinizer | badcloud: we'Re all lost on what you are doing |
| 17:12.30 | badcloud | DocScrutinizer: alright then |
| 17:12.43 | badcloud | I have Hebrew/English as my two hw kbd layouts |
| 17:12.45 | DocScrutinizer | what pkg is it you installed |
| 17:13.00 | badcloud | http://maemo.org/packages/view/kblayout-status/ |
| 17:13.06 | DocScrutinizer | aaah |
| 17:13.21 | badcloud | it does not work with Hebrew aparently |
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| 17:13.52 | DocScrutinizer | o.O |
| 17:14.12 | DocScrutinizer | tried with sth else, like uk vs US ? |
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| 17:14.35 | badcloud | US works |
| 17:14.58 | DocScrutinizer | select a non-hebrew secondary layout, e.g UK |
| 17:15.07 | badcloud | DocScrutinizer: I did, and it worked |
| 17:15.15 | badcloud | but then I can't switch to Hebrew |
| 17:15.21 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, then it's obviously a bug in this app |
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| 17:15.58 | badcloud | DocScrutinizer: yep |
| 17:17.22 | DocScrutinizer | pester http://maemo.org/profile/view/subchaser/ as I don't see a valid bugtracker link or user feedback URL there |
| 17:17.51 | badcloud | DocScrutinizer: 2 steps ahead of you :) |
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| 17:19.49 | DocScrutinizer | obviously, as you already used that applet, while I didn't even know of it 10 min ago |
| 17:20.44 | DocScrutinizer | ooh, >>Leave a comment on the package page.<< |
| 17:22.15 | badcloud | DocScrutinizer: no need to get defensive |
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| 18:28.57 | DocScrutinizer | feels pissed about CSSU obviously dying from disinterest and inability of pushing anything forward |
| 18:31.30 | DocScrutinizer | oh well, probably definitely about time to mirror the Nokia and Maemo repos to my private server, before somebody decides it's not worth the money to provide the official ones any longer, regarding the lack of interest |
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| 18:36.53 | RST38h | Doc: Please, do |
| 18:37.12 | RST38h | Doc: I have a feeling that this stuff will go away in an instant, without much of warning. |
| 18:37.23 | DocScrutinizer | why? do you think I'd open it up for public access? :-S |
| 18:37.39 | RST38h | Hoarder! |
| 18:39.11 | DocScrutinizer | meh, when others are not even capable of joining a meeting that's been announced basically 2 weeks ago, or roll out a update with merge requests pending since months joined... |
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| 18:39.41 | DocScrutinizer | probably nobody would even notice it when repos went down without any warning |
| 18:40.13 | DocScrutinizer | the very first time I tend to agree "meamo is dead" |
| 18:41.24 | DocScrutinizer | and since such comments don't really change *anything* to the better, I'll simply shut up now and focus to sth else |
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| 21:14.02 | tramp | Does CSSU still need testing? |
| 21:14.10 | psycho_oreos | any of you know what is the screen cover usually made out of? I'm curious to see if isopropyl alcohol affects the screen protectors in general over a long period of time to exposure with alcohol |
| 21:14.26 | psycho_oreos | I think its mostly stable now |
| 21:14.35 | SpeedEvil | PET, with a silicone gel backing. |
| 21:14.54 | SpeedEvil | And perhaps some exotic coating on the front if it's an expensive one |
| 21:16.05 | psycho_oreos | nah the one I got on my main one is some cheap chinese screen protector. Its custom fitted which also makes it hard to take off easily :/ |
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| 21:16.34 | vi__ | yo |
| 21:17.00 | psycho_oreos | hi |
| 21:17.05 | vi__ | is it at all possible to access the uSD when pc suite mode is active? |
| 21:18.00 | psycho_oreos | hmm via ssh through USB networking, yes |
| 21:18.13 | tramp | thanks psycho_oreos |
| 21:18.18 | psycho_oreos | that's with linux pc though |
| 21:18.59 | psycho_oreos | tramp, oh wait your the bloke who only has N900 to use as computer right? |
| 21:19.20 | vi__ | certainly am |
| 21:19.29 | vi__ | care to comment? |
| 21:19.58 | vi__ | oh and I already use the n900 as a computer. |
| 21:20.31 | psycho_oreos | vi_, on what linux pc? nada :) I have linux everywhere in my room :D |
| 21:20.45 | psycho_oreos | oh that was for tramp lol |
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| 21:21.04 | vi__ | linux is the only operating system i have too |
| 21:21.15 | vi__ | fuck ms in the balls |
| 21:22.02 | psycho_oreos | heh why pay money for toys that won't behave exactly like the way you want them to :D |
| 21:22.20 | vi__ | i was looking at the usb networking and thought... |
| 21:22.40 | vi__ | there has to be an easier way, il ask meh bros on irc first |
| 21:22.45 | vi__ | heh |
| 21:24.00 | psycho_oreos | nah I personally don't know of any other way to access N900 storage through USB hostmode under linux whilst the device is in pc suite mode |
| 21:25.12 | psycho_oreos | thanks for your input SpeedEvil, though it seems like I have lots of reading to do lol |
| 21:25.35 | vi__ | what is module 'g_file_storage'? |
| 21:26.42 | psycho_oreos | handles emmc and microSD(HC) (if inserted) iinm |
| 21:27.31 | vi__ | aaah |
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| 21:28.03 | vi__ | it won't modprobe in pc suite mode |
| 21:28.11 | vi__ | device is busy |
| 21:28.18 | vi__ | which is teh gayest |
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| 21:29.20 | psycho_oreos | heh iir it also is loaded when one chooses mass storage mode instead of pc suite mode |
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| 21:30.32 | vi__ | yah, i just read pc-suite-enable.sh |
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| 21:40.59 | tramp | Does anyone find CSSU invaluable? |
| 21:42.53 | tramp | or essential in their N900 setup? |
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| 22:14.39 | Macer | hello? |
| 22:15.02 | Macer | i am not too familiar with it but what is the best way to run a wiki site? |
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| 22:30.09 | DocScrutinizer | get a server, install a wiki |
| 22:31.11 | Macer | DocScrutinizer: yeah but where do i start? |
| 22:31.26 | DocScrutinizer | with "get a server" |
| 22:31.33 | Macer | lol. i have that part |
| 22:31.44 | Macer | but what software is best for it? |
| 22:32.00 | DocScrutinizer | depends on your priorities I guess |
| 22:32.00 | Macer | i was hoping to find something as easy as wordpress to get going |
| 22:32.17 | Macer | instructions for local industrial tasks |
| 22:32.43 | Macer | so a basic instructions and howto wiki |
| 22:33.00 | Macer | with multiple editors of course |
| 22:33.06 | Macer | supervisors and engineers |
| 22:33.10 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, then probably mediawiki isn't the right thing for you |
| 22:33.28 | Macer | mediawiki is what wikipedia uses? |
| 22:33.38 | DocScrutinizer | I think yes |
| 22:34.03 | Macer | i see |
| 22:34.22 | DocScrutinizer | at least >>Powered by MediaWiki<< is to be found at bottom of a lot of wikipages, incl maemo |
| 22:34.45 | Macer | hm |
| 22:34.56 | DocScrutinizer | but I heard it's based on MySQL and whatnot |
| 22:35.02 | Macer | is mediawiki an easy and straightforward setup |
| 22:35.09 | DocScrutinizer | ^^^ |
| 22:35.11 | Macer | similar to wp with just access to a db? |
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| 22:35.28 | Macer | ah ok |
| 22:35.47 | Macer | what's wrong with mysql? :) |
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| 22:36.14 | Macer | honestly i don't have a lot of mysql experience other than basic stuff like wordpress |
| 22:36.34 | Macer | and the occasional phpmyadmin use |
| 22:37.55 | Macer | i will look into it tho. thanks |
| 22:38.28 | Macer | i have just never done it before and had no idea where to start or what wiki software was available |
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| 23:41.03 | LaoLang_cool | Hello, how to add sudoers automatically? I tried to add a file in /etc/sudoers.d/, but seems it doesn't source to /etc/sudoers automatically |
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| 23:54.40 | NIN101 | update-sudoers |
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| 23:57.14 | LaoLang_cool | NIN101: Must I have to run it? I tried to reboot, but the file doesn't be sourced too |
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| 23:57.36 | LaoLang_cool | I want it can be auto-sourced after n900 starts up |
| 23:57.50 | NIN101 | i dunno if a reboot regenerates the file. |
| 23:58.27 | LaoLang_cool | NIN101: hmm, I got it, I thought wrong, thank you |