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| 02:24.03 | HyperSnyper | what the hell has happened to HDD prices.... |
| 02:24.17 | SpeedEvil | Water. |
| 02:24.27 | HyperSnyper | bought 2 x 2TB drives not along ago sure i paid £120 for both |
| 02:24.37 | HyperSnyper | can't find many places selling one for that anymore.. |
| 02:24.52 | SpeedEvil | Flooding happened. |
| 02:24.58 | HyperSnyper | oh.. |
| 02:25.00 | SpeedEvil | It washed away all the 0s. |
| 02:25.01 | DocScrutinizer | eh? |
| 02:25.04 | HyperSnyper | tai |
| 02:25.20 | SpeedEvil | Flooding took out 20% of global disk capacity. |
| 02:25.24 | SpeedEvil | Or something like that. |
| 02:25.34 | DocScrutinizer | really now? |
| 02:25.36 | HyperSnyper | can that really cause 50% prices increase.. |
| 02:25.42 | SpeedEvil | yes. |
| 02:25.43 | DocScrutinizer | where? |
| 02:25.51 | HyperSnyper | everywhere!! |
| 02:25.55 | SpeedEvil | I'm gonna guess 'near water'. |
| 02:26.02 | SpeedEvil | Thailand? |
| 02:26.03 | DocScrutinizer | hahaha |
| 02:26.17 | DocScrutinizer | thailand producing HDD??? |
| 02:26.34 | SpeedEvil | http://www.marketwatch.com/story/thai-flooding-seen-raising-disk-drive-prices-2011-10-29 |
| 02:26.41 | HyperSnyper | 4 drives ive just looked at are all thai |
| 02:26.44 | DocScrutinizer | duh! |
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| 02:26.59 | SpeedEvil | Technology research firm IHS iSuppli has estimated that worldwide shipments of hard drives could fall by 30% during the last three months of the year. Reuters reported that some retailers contacted have raised the average price on a hard drive to $90 from $60. |
| 02:27.01 | SpeedEvil | ow |
| 02:28.05 | DocScrutinizer | insane |
| 02:28.15 | HyperSnyper | think im going to go hunting for small shops tomorow that havent realised price increase |
| 02:28.18 | HyperSnyper | hopes |
| 02:29.08 | DocScrutinizer | recalls when last manuf (TI?) announced stop of SN7406, the chip gone up from 30ct to 60$ |
| 02:30.04 | HyperSnyper | i had aload of DS flashcards that tripled in price over night when they announced end of production |
| 02:30.20 | x29a | are you a reseller? |
| 02:30.24 | HyperSnyper | nope |
| 02:30.33 | HyperSnyper | xmas presents one year |
| 02:30.33 | HyperSnyper | :D |
| 02:30.34 | x29a | so whats the point in hogging stuff? |
| 02:30.36 | x29a | lol |
| 02:30.38 | HyperSnyper | bought aload cheap from china |
| 02:30.49 | x29a | give SSD's, and kids will be happy |
| 02:32.52 | HyperSnyper | anyone got suggestions of good playstation games |
| 02:33.12 | SpeedEvil | Elite. |
| 02:33.30 | SpeedEvil | Nethack. |
| 02:33.44 | HyperSnyper | oO |
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| 03:00.59 | internetishard | Anyone opened up an n900 to fix the 3.5" jack? |
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| 03:03.37 | internetishard | the mic stopped working. Only headphones work, but when a headset is plugged in the mic doesn't work. |
| 03:11.20 | SpeedEvil | The jack is simply pressed ontot he board. |
| 03:11.29 | SpeedEvil | It can be easily replaced - if you can find spares. |
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| 03:23.54 | DocScrutinizer | internetishard: check AV, plug device to a TV |
| 03:25.08 | DocScrutinizer | internetishard: and reflash before you consider hw fixing actions |
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| 06:47.19 | ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/07/microsoft_chevronwp7_mango_jailbreak_blessing/ <-- of course they do... they were always a company that woried about getting developers |
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| 07:34.11 | Macer | i think the door switch may have worn |
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| 08:25.11 | MohammadAG | so I just found out my monthly bill always averages 600NIS, about $150 |
| 08:25.29 | jacekowski | i never go above £30 |
| 08:25.31 | MohammadAG | going to subsidize an iPhone or SGSII |
| 08:25.44 | kerio | MohammadAG: holy shit |
| 08:25.49 | kerio | wtf are you doing with your phone |
| 08:26.00 | MohammadAG | kerio, apparently talking a lot |
| 08:26.05 | kerio | lame |
| 08:26.32 | hiemanshu | MohammadAG: what, no cheap plans? |
| 08:26.56 | hiemanshu | I pay $2 a month to get unlimited free calls to the same number |
| 08:27.02 | auenfx4 | MohammadAG, subsidise it on a 3month contract or something? |
| 08:27.04 | hiemanshu | s/number/network/ |
| 08:27.10 | auenfx4 | seeing as you make too many calls :P |
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| 08:27.57 | MohammadAG | well, all iPhone or SGSII owners say they pay a flat 50 bucks |
| 08:28.16 | MohammadAG | with some 6000 minutes talk time and 4GBs internet or sth |
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| 08:28.48 | MohammadAG | since I pay 3 times that already, I may subsidize a dust collector, unlock it and sell it later |
| 08:29.05 | auenfx4 | how many mins of calls do you make to rack up $150? |
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| 08:30.02 | petteri | mine is like 16 eur including 10 for 1Mbit internet |
| 08:30.26 | kerio | subsidize a n900! |
| 08:30.29 | kerio | you never have enough |
| 08:31.26 | auenfx4 | sif any telco has n900's left to subsidise |
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| 08:35.40 | Macer | most carriers here do that for free |
| 08:35.54 | Macer | free calls to same network |
| 08:36.05 | Macer | but i am sure they charge you elsewhere to make up for it |
| 08:36.08 | Macer | greedy bastards |
| 08:36.15 | Macer | i still don't have a plan to drop my minutes even lower |
| 08:36.33 | Macer | i think when i get the chance i will move over to a prepaid line with unlimited data if they have one available |
| 08:36.42 | hopbeat | folks, can someone give me a hint who's debmaster for maemo atm/can pull package from extras-devel? |
| 08:36.51 | Macer | i use like 10 mins of voice time a month on my cell but a crapload of data |
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| 08:43.10 | LaoLang_cool | n900 is so nice |
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| 08:55.04 | ebzzry | Hi1 Is there a way to disable the camera focusing light in Maemo 5? |
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| 08:58.35 | MohammadAG | auenfx4, no idea, lots I guess |
| 08:59.06 | auenfx4 | sounds like lots :P |
| 08:59.22 | auenfx4 | there are mobile plans here for $99 that are unlimited calls/text |
| 08:59.34 | auenfx4 | and a bunch of data included also |
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| 09:06.06 | Macer | ok..... |
| 09:06.10 | Macer | http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM6211610802P?ci_sku=SPM6211610802&ci_src=14110944&i_cntr=1320743061698&sid=IDx20101019x00001a |
| 09:06.18 | Macer | w.....t......f? |
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| 09:06.21 | Macer | SEARS?! |
| 09:06.28 | Macer | sears has N9s!? |
| 09:06.29 | Macer | lol |
| 09:07.09 | auenfx4 | Sold by GSM On Sale |
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| 09:07.19 | Macer | lol |
| 09:08.26 | Macer | reg price: $899 |
| 09:08.35 | Macer | are people really buying these things for 900?? :) |
| 09:08.40 | auenfx4 | it converted to local currency for me |
| 09:08.44 | Macer | no wonder nokia sucks now |
| 09:09.00 | auenfx4 | which means its about $200 more expensive than 64GB locally |
| 09:09.07 | Macer | slashed to $799 |
| 09:09.10 | Macer | :) |
| 09:09.14 | Macer | you save $100! |
| 09:09.21 | auenfx4 | AUD$788 for 64GB locally :P |
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| 09:09.45 | Macer | yeah.. USD and AUD are pretty close |
| 09:10.14 | Macer | that is amazing tho... omg that is a lot for a phone |
| 09:10.30 | Macer | then again.. the samsung note is going for roughly the same price |
| 09:10.43 | Macer | i just thought it was too funny tho that it was on the sears web site |
| 09:10.50 | Macer | that was unexpected |
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| 09:13.36 | mece | Macer, some googling tells me "iPhone 4S 64GB – $849" |
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| 09:13.53 | Macer | wow really?? |
| 09:13.56 | MohammadAG | auenfx4, I mainly use data and calls, only 70 cents of sms |
| 09:14.31 | mece | Macer, $649 for 16Gb version |
| 09:15.05 | Macer | oh |
| 09:15.13 | Macer | N9 is 64GB? |
| 09:15.22 | auenfx4 | i did $4.20 of sms' last month |
| 09:15.25 | mece | Macer, 64 or 16 |
| 09:15.34 | auenfx4 | (7c/sms) |
| 09:15.59 | Macer | no.. that is the 16GB going for that much |
| 09:16.02 | Macer | from sears |
| 09:16.05 | Macer | that is retarded |
| 09:16.08 | mece | Macer, damn. That's a bit much |
| 09:16.21 | Macer | http://phone-size.com/?p=%5B1%2C6%5D |
| 09:16.24 | Macer | that it is |
| 09:16.31 | Macer | does the n9 at least have a microsd slot? |
| 09:16.35 | Macer | sdxc i'm hoping? :) |
| 09:16.43 | mece | Macer, no |
| 09:16.44 | auenfx4 | no microsd slot |
| 09:16.48 | Macer | omg |
| 09:16.57 | Macer | taking the apple route huh? |
| 09:17.05 | mece | haha ok, the size of the note, that's what's retarded! |
| 09:17.29 | Macer | yeah |
| 09:17.34 | Macer | it is huge |
| 09:17.51 | Macer | i guess something between a tablet and a phone? |
| 09:18.02 | Macer | i wonder if it is running honeycomb with a dialer :) |
| 09:18.29 | auenfx4 | my android 'tablet' is a 7" with froyo |
| 09:18.36 | mece | haahaha |
| 09:18.39 | auenfx4 | it can be used as a phone :P |
| 09:18.59 | mece | oo but the weight of the note is brilliant! |
| 09:19.19 | auenfx4 | it fits in jeans back pocket |
| 09:19.26 | auenfx4 | cept its a bit tall |
| 09:19.37 | mece | auenfx4, and if you sit down it breaks |
| 09:19.38 | auenfx4 | Dimensions 146.9 x 83 x 9.7 mm |
| 09:19.38 | auenfx4 | Weight 178 g |
| 09:19.42 | Macer | back pocket? |
| 09:19.44 | Macer | :) |
| 09:20.00 | Macer | you shouldnt need cargo pants to carry your phone |
| 09:20.00 | auenfx4 | Dimensions 192 x 110 x 12.6 mm |
| 09:20.01 | auenfx4 | Weight 403 g |
| 09:20.06 | auenfx4 | its a touch heavier than galaxy note :P |
| 09:20.16 | Macer | they don't have n900 on that site :( |
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| 09:20.48 | mece | iphone and galaxy are really starting to look old... |
| 09:21.52 | mece | anyway, I'm sure the note has some good uses, but not for me. I couldn't carry it. |
| 09:22.15 | Macer | does sony still use symbian? |
| 09:22.22 | mece | it also seems to be running some primitive and uninteresting operating system |
| 09:22.28 | mece | Macer, I doubt that. |
| 09:22.41 | mece | Macer, android afaik |
| 09:23.46 | Macer | ah ok |
| 09:24.32 | Macer | i would definately get the black N9 |
| 09:24.39 | mece | I want the white one. |
| 09:24.41 | mece | anyway |
| 09:24.44 | Macer | if they weren't so damn expensive |
| 09:24.53 | mece | that galaxy note reminds me a lot of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORMmNFRadig |
| 09:25.04 | Macer | i will wait and see if nokia keeps making them |
| 09:25.17 | Macer | i'm sure if they work out then the price will drop and the N10 will pop up |
| 09:25.52 | Macer | LOL |
| 09:25.55 | Macer | omg.. top secreat! |
| 09:25.57 | Macer | epic movie |
| 09:26.21 | mece | I'm pretty sure Samsung watched that movie and were like, "Hey! Why don't we make that phone as a joke!" |
| 09:27.50 | Macer | lol |
| 09:27.59 | Macer | i think they were targeting men with penis issues |
| 09:28.03 | Macer | :) |
| 09:28.18 | Macer | the asian market is huge for this sort of thing |
| 09:29.13 | mece | But seriously, It must looks absolutely ridiculous when you talk on the phone with that thing |
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| 09:31.33 | Macer | that's what the bt earpiece is for ;) |
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| 09:31.47 | Macer | it probably isn't as bad as it seems |
| 09:32.11 | Macer | you probably have to see one first hand |
| 09:32.25 | auenfx4 | www.sidetalking.com |
| 09:32.32 | Macer | i knowi might be a little late in asking.. but in the US... "Maemo" would be pronounced ... "May-Moe" |
| 09:32.45 | Macer | is that proper? or is it "Mee-Moe" |
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| 09:33.40 | MohammadAG | I pronounce it my mo |
| 09:34.04 | Macer | i guess that is another way to read it |
| 09:34.13 | Macer | i always say "May Moe" |
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| 09:34.48 | Macer | i mean is this the same as Lin-us and Line-us ? where it is a matter of where you live? |
| 09:35.13 | vdv | x29a, i've found what was the reason for the yesterdays case |
| 09:35.23 | vdv | x29a, CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH |
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| 09:35.34 | vdv | which was set to /usr/lib/qt/include |
| 09:36.02 | vdv | i.e. to system qt headers dir |
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| 09:57.37 | Trewas | n9's kernel has been patched so that it shows free+cached memory as free, unlike linux normally... I was wondering why is it swapping often with >200MB free memory, but turns out most of that is cache |
| 09:57.56 | Trewas | maybe n900 was the same, but at least it was never that laggy |
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| 10:06.55 | ShadowJK | Weird, I'd thought N9 would be less laggy |
| 10:07.08 | ShadowJK | and how the hell does it manage to blow 1gig of memory ;-) |
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| 10:08.12 | Trewas | now after six days of uptime it is pretty much single-tasking phone, after a reboot it is ok for a few days |
| 10:08.24 | ShadowJK | kinda like N900 then |
| 10:09.00 | ShadowJK | are you sure it's not "free" that was patched? |
| 10:10.15 | Trewas | I am not sure what they have done, but I have a script polling /proc/vmstat and watching how much it swaps, and it does swap a lot even though free (the command) shows >200MB free memory |
| 10:10.40 | Trewas | checking /proc/meminfo MemFree is the same value but there is almost 200MB of Cached too |
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| 10:18.22 | vdv | i've deployed qt app with qtcreator, deb package is installed, but when i try to run it as normal user looks like program is started (i see it in process list), but i don't see main window. running as root works normal |
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| 10:40.37 | x29a | vdv: hah, so i guessed right ;) |
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| 10:41.20 | x29a | vdv: you can also deploy by just copying the stuff over (can be set in qt creator, is a bit faster) |
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| 10:44.04 | vdv | the reason app was not accessable from app menu was that in control file Section: user/hidden was specified |
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| 10:46.49 | vdv | x29a, had to put it in user/education |
| 10:48.51 | vdv | or maybe not.. |
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| 10:49.21 | x29a | vdv: you have weird settings, it just works here |
| 10:50.03 | vdv | i see app icon in list, but when i click on it, nothing happens |
| 10:50.15 | vdv | but if i run app from terminal as root it opens |
| 10:50.41 | vdv | that all happens on device of course |
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| 11:01.40 | Trewas | aah the memory info seems strange because the swap in n9 is actually a compressed ramdisk inside the main memory |
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| 12:20.32 | jonwil | ok, wtf is a "dead key"? |
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| 12:21.08 | mgedmin | generally speaking, it's a key that acts like a sticky-shift |
| 12:21.28 | mgedmin | when you press it, it doesn't insert a character, but modifies the action of the following key |
| 12:22.03 | mgedmin | e.g. if you have a "dead ~", you press it, then press n to get ñ |
| 12:22.23 | jonwil | If |
| 12:22.28 | mgedmin | and to enter a ~ you either press it twice, or press it and then press space (it depends on the OS, I believe) |
| 12:22.50 | jonwil | If I can figure out these last few things, I will be able to release a set of usable headers for libimlayout :) |
| 12:23.12 | jonwil | which means you can read and get data from .vkb keyboard layouts |
| 12:37.00 | Macer | hm. got my cover from amazon. a clear one. |
| 12:37.07 | Macer | it isnt too bad |
| 12:37.21 | Macer | still slides :) |
| 12:38.06 | Macer | i seriously do wish that i could find a plastic keyboard cover so i dont wear out the keyboard |
| 12:38.24 | Macer | maybe i can rig something up |
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| 12:45.37 | Macer | http://my-symbian.com/other/preview_n900.php |
| 12:45.39 | Macer | lol |
| 12:47.28 | SpeedEvil | fails to find the lolz. |
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| 12:48.54 | DocScrutinizer | lolls |
| 12:49.29 | DocScrutinizer | while TV lulls me |
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| 12:52.39 | Macer | SpeedEvil: oh cmon |
| 12:53.06 | Macer | it is like seeing a 1980s commercial with tarrif clauses in the fine print |
| 12:53.23 | Macer | remember those? |
| 12:53.41 | Macer | there is no mobile web app for google plus? |
| 12:53.51 | Macer | google keeps sending me to the full site |
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| 12:57.12 | Macer | oh. found it. nice. works good in the maemo browser |
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| 13:20.03 | psychologe | how to used python command judge call stats ? is connected or disconnected ? |
| 13:20.20 | psychologe | somebody konw? |
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| 13:29.40 | Macer | hm |
| 13:30.13 | Macer | i am curious if my transformer supports dun |
| 13:30.28 | Macer | i never tried it on an android device |
| 13:30.32 | psychologe | Macer, hi |
| 13:30.39 | Macer | hi |
| 13:30.44 | Gizmokid2005 | frals: ping |
| 13:31.03 | Macer | i dont want to use wifi hotspot on the n900 if i can avoid it |
| 13:31.12 | Macer | sucks up too much power |
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| 13:33.10 | psychologe | a question,,how to use python judge call state ? has someone can tell me! |
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| 13:49.59 | SpeedEvil | Meh. |
| 13:50.11 | SpeedEvil | nokia can't fix my n900, so I'm getting an E7. |
| 13:50.44 | Corsac | sure, exactly the same thing |
| 13:50.52 | Corsac | ask for an n9, at least? |
| 13:50.59 | SpeedEvil | I did. |
| 13:51.02 | SpeedEvil | No joy. |
| 13:51.08 | hiemanshu | in warranty? |
| 13:51.31 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 13:51.39 | hiemanshu | mine isnt in warranty :/ |
| 13:51.55 | SpeedEvil | So I'm going to be doing the ebay+ebay thing |
| 13:51.57 | hiemanshu | usb broke the day I was going to solder it |
| 13:52.20 | SpeedEvil | My touchpanel, and modem were dodgy. |
| 13:52.33 | SpeedEvil | Otherwise, I would have soldered it. |
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| 13:55.12 | SpeedEvil | Still got backup n900 anyway. |
| 13:57.30 | Macer | i think i will open this one soon enough to try to ensure it sticks |
| 13:57.51 | Macer | so far i have been babying the port |
| 13:58.23 | SpeedEvil | I need to make my right-angle cable. |
| 13:58.26 | SpeedEvil | I've got the parts. |
| 13:59.54 | Macer | right angle cable? |
| 14:00.13 | Macer | make a damn charging pad battery |
| 14:00.14 | SpeedEvil | A cable that protrudes ~5mm from the n900 |
| 14:00.16 | Macer | lol |
| 14:01.03 | Macer | oh. for the broken usb one? |
| 14:01.22 | Macer | or for the working one to keep the port safe? |
| 14:01.34 | SpeedEvil | Working. |
| 14:01.42 | SpeedEvil | And to make it more convenient to use on charge. |
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| 14:02.24 | Macer | ansd safer? |
| 14:02.26 | Macer | :) |
| 14:02.28 | Macer | and |
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| 14:05.51 | SpeedEvil | yes |
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| 14:34.10 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: \o/ |
| 14:34.12 | DocScrutinizer | hi! |
| 14:34.19 | javispedro | hi |
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| 14:40.09 | MohammadAG | Going to check out that subsidizing idea I had in mind in a bit |
| 14:40.24 | MohammadAG | Something deep inside me isn't convinced I should get an iPhon |
| 14:40.25 | MohammadAG | e |
| 14:41.33 | SpeedEvil | Have customs decided to explode your n950 yet? |
| 14:41.36 | LaoLang_cool | Which version of emmc is the latest? |
| 14:44.16 | MohammadAG | SpeedEvil, still thinking how many grams of explosives it needs |
| 14:45.42 | DocScrutinizer | err, there's not been a new one after second version as of ~1 year ago |
| 14:46.00 | LaoLang_cool | How do you guys turn the n900 screen off? By doble click power key or slide the lock key? |
| 14:46.10 | DocScrutinizer | #2 |
| 14:46.11 | SpeedEvil | slide |
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| 14:46.23 | SpeedEvil | So often that my lock key nub got worn off. |
| 14:46.33 | LaoLang_cool | oh, I think that key is hard to slide |
| 14:46.43 | SpeedEvil | you need to use your fingernail |
| 14:46.47 | SpeedEvil | then it works well |
| 14:46.53 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |
| 14:46.55 | SpeedEvil | trying with the finger doesn't work. |
| 14:47.04 | LaoLang_cool | I should tran myself |
| 14:47.15 | LaoLang_cool | train |
| 14:47.28 | DocScrutinizer | ooh I thought tran as in tranny |
| 14:47.30 | LaoLang_cool | How to know which version of eMMC I'm using? |
| 14:47.42 | LaoLang_cool | sorry for my broken English ;p |
| 14:48.21 | MohammadAG | doesn't really matter as long as you're on PR1.3.1 with no problems |
| 14:48.40 | DocScrutinizer | hah, simply assume you're not using the 2 year old PR1.0 compatible version |
| 14:49.47 | LaoLang_cool | I've reflashed with the pr1.3, but find that the default repository doesn't contain the extra repo, is it ok? I've read that "The Extras repository is pre-configured on the N900 and listed as maemo.org and is enabled by default in PR1.1." in maemo wiki. |
| 14:50.26 | javispedro | MohammadAG, your N950 is still lost? how dutiful of them |
| 14:50.44 | DocScrutinizer | FSCK, sth's flooding my PC syslog :-S |
| 14:50.51 | MohammadAG | javispedro, yeah |
| 14:50.52 | DocScrutinizer | Nov 8 15:50:16 halley kernel: [13178206.310393] ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.BAT0._BST] (Node f5c41590), AE_TIME |
| 14:50.54 | DocScrutinizer | Nov 8 15:50:16 halley kernel: [13178206.310435] ACPI Exception: AE_TIME, Evaluating _BST 20090521 battery-385 |
| 14:50.59 | LaoLang_cool | ok, I've found that maemo.org is the extra repo |
| 14:51.03 | MohammadAG | javispedro, my bill's about 150 bucks, thinking of getting an iPhone |
| 14:51.15 | javispedro | A BILL? |
| 14:51.25 | javispedro | what you need now is a lawyer |
| 14:51.35 | MohammadAG | err, operator's bill |
| 14:51.39 | javispedro | aah |
| 14:51.42 | RST38h | EHLO JAVISPEDRO |
| 14:51.52 | javispedro | helo RST38h |
| 14:51.58 | DocScrutinizer | abill? |
| 14:52.04 | DocScrutinizer | :-o |
| 14:52.06 | andre__ | LaoLang_cool, maybe an unintended change. |
| 14:52.11 | andre__ | ah. |
| 14:52.17 | MohammadAG | getting an iPhone lowers it to 50 bucks |
| 14:52.26 | LaoLang_cool | yes |
| 14:52.28 | MohammadAG | so I might get one and find DocScrutinizer's home address |
| 14:53.35 | DocScrutinizer | oh, you're sending me a cryPhone for vivisection? |
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| 15:09.22 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, anything that makes you think Aegis is better |
| 15:09.37 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, so, abuot the MobileSubstrate thing for iOS, you think we can make one for the N900? |
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| 15:09.51 | MohammadAG | I like the idea of hooking functions onto system app etc |
| 15:10.32 | trx | MohammadAG what's that, like dll injections? |
| 15:13.46 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: I haven't completely wrapped my head around it, but it looked *rather* weird |
| 15:14.27 | MohammadAG | trx, injects code into closed apps |
| 15:15.13 | trx | yeah, windows slang is dll injections for that |
| 15:15.14 | DocScrutinizer | trx: it seems to ptch the c(++) function entry code to jump to a "hooked in" patch |
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| 15:15.39 | trx | that is actually not hard to do |
| 15:15.44 | trx | if you can read ASM |
| 15:16.08 | DocScrutinizer | it looks silly to me, should be doable in a more generic way, via proper LD_PRELOAD |
| 15:16.18 | DocScrutinizer | and usual symbol override |
| 15:16.48 | DocScrutinizer | unless you got statically linked apps |
| 15:17.05 | trx | exactly |
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| 15:20.32 | MohammadAG | if you think bme is bad, you should use an iPod touch |
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| 15:20.51 | MohammadAG | charging jumped from 68 to 98 |
| 15:21.27 | DocScrutinizer | haha |
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| 15:38.25 | MohammadAG | unplugged and went out after it charged fully |
| 15:38.31 | MohammadAG | now it's 68% |
| 15:38.33 | MohammadAG | fml |
| 15:41.13 | javispedro | MohammadAG, shut up and get a mac :P |
| 15:41.18 | javispedro | ( ;P ) |
| 15:41.29 | MohammadAG | javispedro, eww |
| 15:41.49 | MohammadAG | javispedro, I'm on my way to Orange, gonna see if they give me an iphone |
| 15:42.14 | MohammadAG | I'm paying for more than 3 monthly anyway |
| 15:43.39 | javispedro | hah, I knew it. First an iPod, then an iPhone, then the iPad, and finally the iSteveJobs poster on your bedroom. |
| 15:44.03 | MohammadAG | javispedro, I regret buying the iPod |
| 15:44.13 | MohammadAG | if they give me an iphone that's going away |
| 15:44.20 | MohammadAG | (the iPod that is) |
| 15:44.37 | MohammadAG | no GPS (solved with N900 + columbus but 2x battery usage on both devices) |
| 15:45.03 | MohammadAG | 256MBs of RAM; not that it multitasks but having apps in memory is useful as on the iphone |
| 15:45.16 | MohammadAG | crappy bluetooth stack crashes car audio system |
| 15:45.34 | MohammadAG | no turn by turn navi |
| 15:46.31 | lardman | wonders how well the voice recog works on the iPhone 4S |
| 15:46.49 | lardman | E.g. does "What's on this arvo?" return anything? |
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| 16:14.59 | pwnguin | i have no idea what the device lock code is, and i'd like to change it to something i know |
| 16:15.29 | pwnguin | do i need to reflash the firmware, or is there an easier method? |
| 16:16.19 | psycho_oreos | is the device still unlocked and is this N900 you're referring to? |
| 16:16.30 | pwnguin | oh yea, its unlocked and an 900 |
| 16:16.44 | pwnguin | i dont recall ever setting a pin, but i suppose its possible |
| 16:17.26 | psycho_oreos | there's a thread by qwerty12 on changing the device lock. There's also ways to obtain the key as well, though the key is encrypted |
| 16:17.37 | pwnguin | with what? |
| 16:18.38 | psycho_oreos | qwerty12 wrote a program to change device lock, and to obtain the key, its mentioned in the thread, to get it the combination you need something like john the ripper |
| 16:18.49 | pwnguin | heh |
| 16:18.58 | pwnguin | the code was already 12345 |
| 16:20.30 | pwnguin | lucky me |
| 16:20.37 | psycho_oreos | it doesn't take long for john to obtain the plaintext combination, with a reasonable computer these days it only takes matter of seconds to break it. Plus the combination consists of only numeric numbers, so really you're dealing with 10^9 |
| 16:21.14 | Macer | wow |
| 16:21.20 | Macer | this vkb in maemo is pretty bad |
| 16:21.35 | psycho_oreos | -_- |
| 16:21.44 | psycho_oreos | like as if that was ever news |
| 16:21.47 | Macer | sending a txt or im or sms you have to type and then tap to make it go away |
| 16:21.55 | Macer | er |
| 16:22.06 | pwnguin | yea, i bought my mom a tmobile g2 (desire z?) |
| 16:22.15 | Macer | said that wrong |
| 16:22.32 | Macer | pwnguin: it is a piece of shit |
| 16:22.40 | Macer | it will fall apart in 3 months |
| 16:22.48 | pwnguin | its lasted a year thus far |
| 16:22.58 | Macer | lol |
| 16:23.06 | Macer | mine lasted 8 or 9 months |
| 16:23.08 | pwnguin | the keyboard is pretty nice |
| 16:23.20 | pwnguin | the hinge may not be |
| 16:23.31 | Macer | is there a way to get conversations to send on vkb enter? |
| 16:23.52 | Macer | vkb <enter> |
| 16:25.52 | Macer | has anybody tried the maliit vkb? |
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| 16:39.04 | Macer | i wish n900 had the stylus keyboard from maemo4 |
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| 16:39.14 | Macer | that thing was rather tolerable |
| 16:39.54 | Macer | this piece of junk is horrible |
| 16:40.14 | ijb | quick question: is there an updated version of telepathy-sofiasip? version 0.6.2-0maemo4+0m5 provides wrong SDP headers when the device is connected to multiple networks. |
| 16:40.48 | Macer | at least hitting enter for xterm removes the vkb and sends txt |
| 16:44.41 | psycho_oreos | there are other SMS services out there, maybe even chat programs that will handle enter as it is under xterm |
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| 16:53.16 | MohammadAG | k, they're out of iphones and I need my dad with me to transfer the line from his ID to mine |
| 16:53.24 | MohammadAG | oh well, got some headphones anyway |
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| 17:03.46 | Estel_ | I got strange problem with Dosbox, lately... When trying to use it with output=overlay, it segfaults just after dosbox logo, with following errors in logs: |
| 17:03.49 | Estel_ | ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory |
| 17:04.06 | Estel_ | ALSA:Can't open sequencer |
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| 17:04.18 | Estel_ | MIDI:Opened device:none |
| 17:04.52 | Estel_ | the weird thing is, that it worked with same settings a month or two ago, and dosbox wasn't updated meantime (for Maemo) |
| 17:05.43 | Estel_ | I thought it's sound related, but tweaking or disabling sound emulation doesnt help. When i use it with output=surface, it works, so it is something display-related... |
| 17:06.10 | Estel_ | Ho ever, output=surface doesn't scale, so every dosbox game/program is very tiny |
| 17:06.43 | Estel_ | with output=overlay I can't start dosbox, no matter of other settings, due to following errors |
| 17:06.53 | Estel_ | mentioned* not following |
| 17:06.58 | Estel_ | any ideas, anyone? |
| 17:08.15 | Estel_ | especially, the "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory" makes me wonder, what the heck does it have to do with output=overlay |
| 17:09.41 | Estel_ | is it possible that kernel update or CSSU update changed something? can anyone with dosbox, kp48 or CSSU confirm/deny this whole "open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory" thing, when running dosbox with output=overlay? |
| 17:10.00 | Estel_ | thanks in advance for any ideas. |
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| 17:16.04 | DocScrutinizer | psyyou recently tried the john for lockcode? |
| 17:16.15 | DocScrutinizer | meh he's gone |
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| 17:17.22 | DocScrutinizer | pwnguin: actually lucky you, iirc they changed lockcode implementation with 1.2 or 1.3, so this lil hack doesn't work anymore |
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| 19:07.27 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: guess, what! :-// my laptop fan sounds like a lawn mower |
| 19:08.25 | DocScrutinizer | well, never clean a running system :-( |
| 19:08.32 | DocScrutinizer | o/ |
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| 21:15.08 | Macer | N900 battery took a nose dive shortly after turning on the wifi |
| 21:15.21 | Macer | went from 25% to 1 |
| 21:15.40 | Macer | the battery eye graph went straight down |
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