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| 00:31.39 | psycho_oreos | there's probably a few good reasons why you wouldn't want to be walking around in the public with N950 anyway :) |
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| 00:50.02 | kakashi_ | is anybody able to work with dropbox? |
| 00:50.08 | kakashi_ | I just can't log on anymore |
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| 00:50.17 | kakashi_ | even after changing the .config file |
| 00:50.26 | kakashi_ | i.e without getdropbox.com |
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| 00:52.02 | kakashi_ | any ideas guys |
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| 01:20.38 | DocScrutinizer | psycho_oreos: well, it was fun to have the N950 with me at chaos camp |
| 01:22.10 | DocScrutinizer | triggered all kinds of unusual behaviour, and earned me some drinks |
| 01:22.19 | psycho_oreos | DocScrutinizer, heh I don't mean that it isn't fun to carry your N950 around, I meant in the more of the general context as in using your N950 everyday such as commuting to and from work, going to various places with it every day every week |
| 01:22.29 | psycho_oreos | it carries a bit of risk though |
| 01:22.54 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, yeah |
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| 01:24.06 | psycho_oreos | I'm sure any happy N950 owner in the first few days would be a little paranoid but then would ease up and may want to flirt around with a rare toy, but really that's kinda like holding a lollipop and wondering around waiting for it to catch more attention |
| 01:24.54 | DocScrutinizer | esp when taking into account the equation sb did here some monzhs ago which was like $NOKIA_R&D_FOR_MAEMO/MEEGO / $NUMBER_OF_N950_IN_THE_WILD = 3.6 mio USD per device |
| 01:25.14 | doc|home | woah |
| 01:25.29 | doc|home | then they put a bullet in the head of the entire thing :/ |
| 01:25.46 | psycho_oreos | you can thank Elop for all that |
| 01:26.09 | doc|home | I'll be anti-thanking him by not buying another nokia, does that count? :) |
| 01:26.38 | psycho_oreos | first it was a very nice ad of N950, then it becomes unavailable and whilst its unavailable the specs are crippled. Then it becomes developer only device |
| 01:26.58 | psycho_oreos | partially imo ;) I'd also tell people to avoid nokia after N9 |
| 01:27.21 | psycho_oreos | remember the simple analogy to businesses that one bad customer brings 10 bad customers |
| 01:27.52 | psycho_oreos | that'll be sure to cut some wounds into them |
| 01:28.06 | doc|home | I wouldn't even bother with the n9. It's a really nice looking phone, but still-born if the platform's going nowhere :/ |
| 01:28.44 | DocScrutinizer | aegis made it not even breathe at birth |
| 01:29.00 | psycho_oreos | I'll admit that N9 is a still-born platform but with maemo's premature death there aren't many alternatives apart from one switching across to a completely different platform |
| 01:29.22 | DocScrutinizer | stick with maemo |
| 01:29.36 | psycho_oreos | I mean what else can one look at? android? moblin? bada? etc? |
| 01:29.47 | psycho_oreos | maemo won't last around forever :) |
| 01:30.30 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.rasterman.com/index.php?page=News |
| 01:30.30 | doc|home | moblin was merged into meego, meego's now dead. Bada's way off from being a competitor. So I'm keeping an eye on android :/ |
| 01:30.41 | DocScrutinizer | Feb. 11 |
| 01:31.46 | psycho_oreos | oh yeah I forgot about tizen and openmoko too |
| 01:31.47 | doc|home | DocScrutinizer: it's now oct, and noticeable advancement since then? |
| 01:31.54 | doc|home | openmoko's dead |
| 01:32.26 | psycho_oreos | its still in the wraps with that samsung linux.. I won't hold hopes over vapourware imo.. but N9 is an end product, meaning that its not a vapourware.. its already out |
| 01:32.35 | DocScrutinizer | I never planned to get any new phone/OS during the next ~5 years, so I'm sticking with maemo and for lack of new hw with N900, and with CSSU. And I'll keep an eye on what raster eventually might come up with |
| 01:32.36 | psycho_oreos | openmoko is dead manufacturer wise :) |
| 01:32.40 | doc|home | s/and noticeable/any noticeable |
| 01:33.08 | doc|home | psycho_oreos: you're trying to say it was strong in software? :) |
| 01:33.28 | DocScrutinizer | tizen is BS, OM is dead |
| 01:34.05 | doc|home | bada could be interesting, but until it's actually a competitor with a top tier phone I'm meh about it. No interest in dumb phones. |
| 01:34.06 | psycho_oreos | doc|home, I'm saying that it still probably is strong in software and some minor closed group hardware developments. Though however its unfortunate that openmoko is mostly dead otherwise |
| 01:34.18 | doc|home | psycho_oreos: it was never really strong in software |
| 01:34.28 | DocScrutinizer | OM-the-community/SHR might come up with semi-mature "anti-vendor-ports" for a fistful of devices |
| 01:35.02 | DocScrutinizer | bada is BS, even more than sybian or tizen |
| 01:35.23 | doc|home | depends on how bent out of shape motorgoogle gets samsung |
| 01:35.39 | psycho_oreos | doc|home, hey well I don't know what openmoko is really like but I'm sure its probably as highly configurable (more than maemo) right? and maybe a lot better hardware access compared to android platform |
| 01:36.34 | psycho_oreos | speaking of which someone linked a mailing list of alternatives to booting up dalvik vm with android devices |
| 01:36.57 | DocScrutinizer | openmoko doesn't sell any hw |
| 01:36.58 | doc|home | psycho_oreos: I have a freerunner doing paperweight duties on my desk. I tried to like/use it but it just wasn't reliable enough to be usable. In the end I switched phone company who had hspa as soon as the n900 came out and that was the end of that |
| 01:37.04 | psycho_oreos | the stuff is in alpha stage |
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| 01:38.01 | DocScrutinizer | psycho_oreos: what exactly are you talking about? and do you really know? |
| 01:39.16 | psycho_oreos | not sure if openmoko did sell it but I do remember they organised group purchases for freerunner. |
| 01:39.16 | psycho_oreos | DocScrutinizer, which the dalvik vm alternative or openmoko stuff? |
| 01:39.58 | DocScrutinizer | there's goldelico startting to sell gta04 in a Openmoko case, that's however not anything gaining traction of any degree, any time |
| 01:40.42 | DocScrutinizer | psycho_oreos: ENOPARSE |
| 01:41.14 | psycho_oreos | Error[1]: `enoparse' is not defined |
| 01:41.19 | psycho_oreos | :) |
| 01:46.29 | HyperSnyper | anyone use psx emulators, and do any decent games work without overclocking ? |
| 01:49.35 | DocScrutinizer | has a strange daydream - porting fremantle to N9. What's missing? bme: available by HARM. GFX-accel: same. Boot: check. OK N9 has no kbd :-( |
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| 03:02.47 | Macer | finally!! |
| 03:03.00 | Macer | won a brand new n900 for $255 |
| 03:03.24 | Macer | after losing bids from the same seller 9 times |
| 03:04.07 | psycho_oreos | he was probably happy that he was able to recoup around half the money he spent on the thing |
| 03:04.37 | psycho_oreos | at least he probably achieved his minimum price mark anyway |
| 03:12.15 | Macer | maybe |
| 03:12.16 | Macer | lol |
| 03:12.20 | Macer | dont carr |
| 03:12.23 | Macer | e |
| 03:15.25 | Macer | cant wait to get it :) |
| 03:15.45 | Macer | might open it to seriously fix the usb |
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| 03:27.13 | smhar | docscrutinizer, how do you compare N950 against N900? |
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| 03:39.28 | Macer | hm |
| 03:39.53 | Macer | now i have to wait 2 weeka to get the damn thing |
| 03:39.57 | Macer | weeks |
| 03:39.59 | Macer | ah well |
| 04:03.08 | Macer | http://www.boxwave.com/nokia-n900-cases-and-covers/nokia-n900-armor-case/bwpdd/pf-tckk/ |
| 04:03.15 | Macer | have to get one :) |
| 04:03.31 | Macer | although the giant hinge is kind of ugly |
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