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| 02:13.21 | luke-jr | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/19/beast_exploits_paypal_ssl/ |
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| 02:13.36 | luke-jr | ^ generic SSL crack, not PayPal-specific |
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| 02:15.39 | SpeedEvil | diginotar? |
| 02:16.05 | SpeedEvil | Oh dear |
| 02:17.54 | SpeedEvil | In principle, the JS can be blocked 'trivally' in a browser patch I suspect |
| 02:19.35 | SpeedEvil | hmm |
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| 02:26.02 | Gh0sty | wtf @ that article luke-jr :i |
| 02:27.07 | luke-jr | well, I presume the solution is to force TLS 1.1+ |
| 02:27.11 | luke-jr | and everyone upgrades |
| 02:27.38 | Gh0sty | wonder if this is also due to a bug not that long ago ~6 months ago |
| 02:27.48 | Gh0sty | which had somewhat similar signature |
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| 02:28.03 | Gh0sty | was something that allowed man in the middle on ssl |
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| 02:30.37 | SpeedEvil | I'm unsure on the attack |
| 02:30.50 | SpeedEvil | Is it the javascript sends lots and lots of packets |
| 02:30.52 | SpeedEvil | Or is it onw |
| 02:30.54 | SpeedEvil | e |
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| 02:31.24 | Gh0sty | should read the article more in detail |
| 02:31.41 | Gh0sty | but just got up from a 3h sleep ... and feeling a bit ill :( |
| 02:32.01 | Gh0sty | googling for quick fixes for throat soar :p |
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| 02:32.13 | Gh0sty | doctor google should have something! :p |
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| 02:35.10 | SpeedEvil | Gh0sty: Gargle with some whiskey. |
| 02:35.39 | SpeedEvil | Honey and lemon may work |
| 02:35.56 | Gh0sty | yeah I read a lot of lemon and honey |
| 02:36.11 | Gh0sty | and also salt in some water could help |
| 02:36.22 | Gh0sty | not sure about the whiskey though |
| 02:36.27 | Gh0sty | its 4h30 in the morning here |
| 02:36.38 | SpeedEvil | Only 3:30 here |
| 02:36.39 | Gh0sty | starting the day with a whiskey ... might not be such a good idea :p |
| 02:36.49 | Gh0sty | you guys never sleep? :p |
| 02:36.56 | Gh0sty | or still awake? |
| 02:37.17 | Gh0sty | or you are vampires: only sleep while there is sun ;) |
| 02:37.43 | SpeedEvil | I've failed at sleep so far |
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| 04:24.21 | Caminomaster | hi everyone |
| 04:24.46 | Caminomaster | first time on this channel, from a N810 |
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| 04:28.42 | Caminomaster | i'm having some troubles about disk space on my 810 |
| 04:29.43 | Caminomaster | could it be solved just moving user folder and mounting point in fstab? |
| 04:33.06 | derf | There's a good chance that would brick your device. |
| 04:33.37 | derf | As I suspect the stuff in fstab doesn't get mounted until fairly late in the boot process. |
| 04:33.44 | Caminomaster | what do you mean with brick? |
| 04:33.55 | derf | As in you'd have to re-flash. |
| 04:34.11 | Caminomaster | what else can i do? |
| 04:34.33 | Caminomaster | i'm having trouble with that base disk full |
| 04:35.23 | ShadowJK | the wiki atleast used to have instructions for how to run from mmc or minisd |
| 04:35.32 | ShadowJK | but i thought it looked complicated |
| 04:35.32 | Caminomaster | and I had trouble a time ago, when space has reached 0b and many apps crashed |
| 04:36.10 | ShadowJK | and I'd have full backups before trying to do the mmcroot thing :s |
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| 04:36.25 | Caminomaster | how do you do actually wit it? |
| 04:37.17 | Caminomaster | i mean, how do anyone of you deal with thah space problem? |
| 04:38.34 | ShadowJK | you did move the included video and documentation away from "N810" and to a "memory card", right? |
| 04:38.49 | Caminomaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:39.18 | Caminomaster | but i think it's not enough, am i wrong? |
| 04:39.23 | ShadowJK | also if you've accidentally saved any other files under N810 |
| 04:39.40 | ShadowJK | well depends what you do |
| 04:40.04 | ShadowJK | has about 50-60M free on his N800 and N810 |
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| 04:42.24 | ShadowJK | http://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card What people who needed lots of space in / on N8x0 used to do. Keep in mind if this goes wrong you'll probably have to reflash and lose data.. |
| 04:43.56 | ShadowJK | huh it refers to a script i dont see anywhere |
| 04:45.23 | ShadowJK | ah it was in the getting tools section, duh |
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| 04:56.28 | Caminomaster | that's why i wonder if it's good to move user folder to mmc |
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| 05:04.53 | ShadowJK | wait, do you have stuff in user folder? |
| 05:05.40 | ShadowJK | oh, hm |
| 05:06.11 | ShadowJK | I have like 27M in /home/user myself on N810 |
| 05:07.23 | ShadowJK | 6.7M .thumbnails, 4.2M .mozilla, 1.5M .claws-mail, 1.4M .maemo-mapper... lots of small things adding up :/ |
| 05:08.14 | ShadowJK | I do remember copying .thumbnails to memory card on N800, and creating symlink from /home/user/.thumbnails to it |
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| 05:31.53 | Caminomaster | I'm still thinking that 256MB is small for a device |
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| 05:50.53 | slonopotamus | oh god, binary distros... build dependency chain: automake -> autoconf -> m4 -> texi2html -> quilt -> hevea -> ocaml-nox. so, suddenly, if one wants to use newer automake package from debian, he needs ocaml |
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| 08:11.20 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: Is there a nightly for qt-mediaplayer which sits alongside the standard player? |
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| 09:10.50 | ruskie | I really really wish the alarm on the n900 wouldn't unlock the screen |
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| 09:16.41 | MohammadAG | Jaffa, haven't built nightlies in quite a while |
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| 09:34.39 | chem|st | ruskie: +1 |
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| 09:47.38 | jiero | Anybody having an brand new idea about map presentation on a paper? Im struggling with the design work due tomorrow, it require a fresh design of a map... |
| 09:48.44 | ruskie | wouldn't someplace like #osm be a more ideal place for something like this? |
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| 09:50.22 | jiero | I was thinking about make a screenshot of 3D map application from N900 |
| 09:50.36 | jiero | but I forgot which app have the 3d view... |
| 09:50.46 | ruskie | navit? |
| 09:51.02 | jiero | yes |
| 09:51.09 | ruskie | though I don't really see how that is a fresh design |
| 09:51.13 | jiero | ruskie: sorry, what is joomla. |
| 09:51.32 | ruskie | erm? |
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| 09:51.40 | jiero | ruskie: you are right, so that is why I ask help for a complete fresh new idea :D |
| 09:52.01 | jiero | ruskie: you direct me to #osm == #joomla |
| 09:52.04 | ruskie | oh ups |
| 09:52.09 | ruskie | maybe wrong network |
| 09:52.34 | jiero | so what is osm? |
| 09:52.39 | ruskie | anyway meant openstreetmap |
| 09:53.16 | jiero | ok. that probably won't help :D but thanks anyway. |
| 09:56.58 | jiero | I had an idea now, don't know if its new: I might zoom the map out and leave large space, and put images and info. over there. |
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| 10:26.20 | kevin_b | Hey guys |
| 10:26.47 | kevin_b | trying a second time to find |
| 10:27.07 | kevin_b | anyone here with a ffmpeg mp3 debian package? |
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| 10:52.23 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: I don't have my development desktop so doing so myself would be tricky :-( |
| 10:52.31 | Jaffa | quite fancies the entertainment view |
| 10:52.48 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: I suppose there's no reason the ent. view couldn't also be a standalone app.. |
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| 12:20.02 | chem|st | ~flaqshing |
| 12:20.06 | chem|st | ~flashing |
| 12:20.06 | infobot | [maemo-flashing] http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 12:20.16 | chem|st | ~flash |
| 12:20.16 | infobot | well, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 12:49.19 | e0x | hello |
| 12:50.27 | e0x | i get hardware problems in my n900 about not detecting the sim and the error of course about all telephony function disable , if that part of the hardware is broken will imposible to reflash it ? |
| 12:50.46 | ruskie | have you tried taking the sim out... and reseating it? |
| 12:50.47 | e0x | because i try and always get ctm fail ( or something ) |
| 12:51.03 | e0x | ruskie: hi , yes i try |
| 12:51.15 | e0x | i almost 100% is hardware issue |
| 12:51.50 | e0x | i even try with another sim and bend the sim contacts for better contact |
| 12:51.54 | e0x | with the sim |
| 12:52.29 | e0x | i get the cmt flash fail but when i reset the phone ( i just reflash the rootfs ) look like it was done |
| 12:52.42 | e0x | because all settings was gone , even theme set |
| 12:53.14 | e0x | the only thing that remain was user data ( photos , contacts , etc ) |
| 12:53.32 | e0x | ( i dont flash emmc ) |
| 12:54.21 | ruskie | no clue maybe someone else will have an idea |
| 12:54.27 | ruskie | ~simfix |
| 12:54.29 | ruskie | ~sim |
| 12:54.35 | ruskie | guess nothing there |
| 12:55.24 | e0x | i was hoping a least reflash it and start a project of make my n900 |
| 12:55.28 | e0x | the car computer |
| 12:55.30 | e0x | or something |
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| 12:56.03 | e0x | i already get a temp phone ( nokia 5230 ) till n9 is out :D |
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| 12:59.03 | e0x | hehe this can't be true : http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=818878&postcount=12 |
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| 13:01.45 | SpeedEvil | e0x: I would be wary of only a couple of days drying |
| 13:01.49 | chem|st | e0x: I would flash from scratch, emmc + rootfs |
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| 13:02.44 | e0x | chem|st: look like the flashing thing using the something of the comunication hardware because |
| 13:02.47 | chem|st | e0x: from time to time I get that SIM error too |
| 13:02.51 | e0x | i get the ctm fail when i try flash it |
| 13:03.06 | e0x | but even with that fail msg , look like it get flash |
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| 13:03.30 | e0x | not sure , when i reboot the phone look like factory reset but the user data still there |
| 13:03.41 | chem|st | as of this I would do a full flash to have a clean device from scratch |
| 13:03.43 | e0x | ( maybe because i only flash rootfs ) |
| 13:03.53 | chem|st | userdata is in emmc |
| 13:04.05 | e0x | o know |
| 13:04.08 | e0x | i know* |
| 13:04.20 | e0x | "CMT flashing failed" |
| 13:04.25 | e0x | the exacto error i get |
| 13:04.33 | chem|st | I had a couple of errors after several rootfs flashes, were gone after I flashed vanilla |
| 13:05.06 | e0x | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=961659&postcount=38 <--- my exacto situation |
| 13:05.49 | chem|st | e0x: cmt not getting flashed is broken hardware yes |
| 13:05.51 | e0x | exacto/exact |
| 13:06.04 | e0x | chem|st: yes :( |
| 13:06.40 | e0x | *#06# return imei in blank too |
| 13:06.51 | chem|st | no device then |
| 13:06.58 | chem|st | ok flashing wont help |
| 13:07.32 | chem|st | leave the battery out about 15minutes and try again |
| 13:08.04 | chem|st | I don't know the exact amount of time to leave the battery out but if the device askes for time/date on startup it was enough |
| 13:08.20 | e0x | then that will help |
| 13:08.26 | chem|st | if I get cmt errors |
| 13:09.01 | chem|st | rebooting doesn't help |
| 13:09.14 | e0x | look like the internal battery of the phone is gone , because all the time i put the battery out it forget the time/date |
| 13:09.15 | chem|st | removing the battery for a few 5 minutes does |
| 13:10.39 | e0x | chem|st: i try that with not luck |
| 13:11.24 | chem|st | e0x: did it ask for a time/date setup? |
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| 13:11.42 | e0x | yes |
| 13:11.49 | chem|st | ok, screwed |
| 13:11.54 | e0x | yes :( |
| 13:11.55 | chem|st | tried twice? |
| 13:12.05 | e0x | i try it a lot of time |
| 13:12.22 | chem|st | ok I would give up after the third |
| 13:12.47 | e0x | i have a few days with the problem , i even disarm the phone |
| 13:13.05 | e0x | well i just separate the screen from the board |
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| 16:27.39 | psychologe | in xcgat |
| 16:29.38 | psychologe | in xchat,,,has some shortcut to change channel? |
| 16:30.31 | DocScrutinizer | e0x: use global firmware, some localized versions (namely US) are known to sometimes act up on flashing cmt |
| 16:33.02 | scoobertron | this is nitpicking, but is there any way to remove the dropshadow from the text of contacts homescreen buttons? it is the only text on my homescreen that has it. |
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| 16:56.12 | Estel_ | psychologe, volume buttons in xchat |
| 16:56.28 | Estel_ | You can use them to switch channels. |
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| 16:57.01 | Estel_ | If You got F7 and F8 mapped, You can also use them |
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| 17:00.31 | psychologe | Estel_, oh,,,,,thank you .....how do you konw that |
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| 17:03.17 | RST38h | Meanwhile: "In an interview with Forbes Magazine, Neal Stephenson says the 'Metaverse' he created in his seminal novel Snow Crash missed the point and that video games like World of Warcraft are the true future of cyberspace. |
| 17:03.25 | RST38h | LOL |
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| 17:04.17 | Estel_ | psychologe, I just tested in the same moment I started using xchat ;) |
| 17:04.51 | Estel_ | RST38h, it seems that Neal Stepheson isn't very bright, is he? |
| 17:05.36 | RST38h | Estel: Dunno, you tell me |
| 17:05.49 | psychologe | Estel_, ctrl+volume+ can display user list... |
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| 17:14.50 | Estel_ | psychologe, yea I use different approach - I got user list always enabled, but 'minimized' to edge of the screen. |
| 17:15.34 | Estel_ | for me, the question is how to close channels, when channel list is show as tree. When tabs, You got button 'x' for it, but tree? |
| 17:17.20 | psychologe | ctrl+w |
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| 17:23.35 | e0x | DocScrutinizer: i use the global one |
| 17:23.41 | e0x | DocScrutinizer: but thx anyway |
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| 17:23.57 | Estel_ | psychologe, thanks. Ho ever, i thought about closing from channel list ;) |
| 17:24.02 | RST38h | Google+ users already use Hangouts to create intimate onscreen experienceswith family members, prayer groups, even people with certain medical conditions! |
| 17:24.24 | RST38h | insane people can hang out too! |
| 17:24.28 | DocScrutinizer | e0x: anyway think twice before you go throwing your N900 in the washing machine ;-) |
| 17:24.57 | e0x | it work now , i was thinking in make it my car computer |
| 17:25.05 | DocScrutinizer | psychologe: with shift + vol- (IIRC) you can even make xchat segfault ;-P |
| 17:25.08 | e0x | for my new comming car |
| 17:25.46 | DocScrutinizer | psychologe: btw you can learn about keys in xchat settings -> keymappings |
| 17:26.24 | DocScrutinizer | err settings -> advanced -> kbd-shortcuts ? |
| 17:26.30 | DocScrutinizer | yeah |
| 17:26.57 | DocScrutinizer | F7: Change Page -1 |
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| 17:27.06 | DocScrutinizer | F8: Change Page +1 |
| 17:27.19 | DocScrutinizer | F7 / F8 are vol+/- keys |
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| 17:27.48 | DocScrutinizer | dunno what's F9 |
| 17:28.29 | RST38h | F9 is "fast-forward" in my emulators :E |
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| 17:29.21 | DocScrutinizer | might be menu button on N810 |
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| 17:29.57 | DocScrutinizer | or it's bogus crap not relevant at all for maemo xchat |
| 17:29.59 | Estel_ | I just checked what F9 does |
| 17:30.09 | Estel_ | it causes xchat to segfault ;) |
| 17:30.17 | DocScrutinizer | ;-P |
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| 17:31.39 | DocScrutinizer | ctrl+VOL- does as well |
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| 17:32.58 | DocScrutinizer | at least with my special version of keymappings |
| 17:33.06 | DocScrutinizer | bbl |
| 17:35.47 | Estel_ | what is bbl? |
| 17:35.54 | Estel_ | bye-bye lamers? |
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| 17:36.40 | Estel_ | ok, I know it was cheap sense of humour |
| 17:39.21 | psychologe | DocScrutinizer, can modify keycodes file ,,let N900 simulation ALT key. |
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| 17:40.35 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~bbl |
| 17:40.35 | infobot | somebody said bbl was be back later |
| 17:41.09 | psychologe | hehe... |
| 17:41.13 | DocScrutinizer51 | also see |
| 17:41.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~bbiab |
| 17:41.20 | infobot | rumour has it, bbiab is be back in a bit |
| 17:41.41 | DocScrutinizer51 | or simply OO |
| 17:41.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~oo |
| 17:41.53 | infobot | [oo] normally "object oriented", but lately it's come to mean "Open Office" too |
| 17:42.15 | MohammadAG | that's ooo |
| 17:42.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | meh, man talk: over+out |
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| 17:42.40 | psychologe | infobot,great |
| 17:42.40 | infobot | from memory, great is cool |
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| 17:45.51 | DocScrutinizer51 | man write actually |
| 17:47.23 | DocScrutinizer51 | -o = over, oo = oevr+out |
| 17:47.40 | sp3000 | man hit keyboard |
| 17:48.27 | sp3000 | man liken himself to incredible hulk |
| 17:48.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | man man man |
| 17:48.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | oo |
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| 17:57.16 | merlin1991 | is there a download able pack of the maemo api docs somewhere? |
| 17:58.33 | psychologe | i want download also |
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| 17:59.12 | merlin1991 | come on guys we're in #maemo someone gotta have an answer to such a clearly ON topic question :D |
| 17:59.18 | Estel_ | thanks, DocScrutinizer. |
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| 18:00.22 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, apt-get install *-doc? |
| 18:00.53 | merlin1991 | I'm searching for a bundle of the html docs |
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| 18:02.37 | Estel_ | psychologe, AFAIK 'blue arrow' (called wrong way a 'Fn') is exactly alt Gr, i.e. 'right alt'. What You mean by adding additional alt for N900 hardware keymap? Is there any use for it? |
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| 18:08.10 | psychologe | Estel_, only some time,some program move from PC.. |
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| 18:17.29 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: I think there's a pdf or sth similar, lemme try to find it for you |
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| 18:19.32 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: please check for yourself: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation |
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| 18:21.14 | DocScrutinizer | also http://www.developer.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/0ea5ec64-2d35-4363-94c0-dd2560c6524b/Get_started_with_Maemo_5.html |
| 18:21.33 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: I know the online docs, I'm searching for a downloadable bundle of them |
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| 18:21.57 | DocScrutinizer | so would you please bother looking at that last link I posted? |
| 18:22.17 | merlin1991 | ah yep didn't see that one :) |
| 18:22.28 | merlin1991 | thank doc |
| 18:22.33 | merlin1991 | s/thank/thanks/ |
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| 18:24.46 | Funnyface | which is more CPU efficient of AAC and MP3? |
| 18:24.59 | valdyn | Funnyface: mp4 |
| 18:25.00 | valdyn | Funnyface: mp3 |
| 18:25.39 | Funnyface | hmm explains why this 40kbit AAC stream drains the battery about as fast as a 128kbit MP3 stream then |
| 18:27.07 | Khertan_n950 | because what s drain battery is the head phone :) |
| 18:27.08 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: http://www.developer.nokia.com/search/search.xhtml?view=ebs&s=fd&tl=0&ob=best&me=false&l=20&expandDoc=false&k=maemo&oldK=maemo |
| 18:27.13 | valdyn | Funnyface: its alot more complex than that, theres no generally correct answer to this |
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| 18:59.32 | Funnyface | khertan_n950: I think my battery drain is the GSM radio :P |
| 18:59.43 | Funnyface | turning down the headphones only helps a little |
| 19:01.31 | amiconn | Headphone power consumption is neglectible compared to the rest of the N900 at reasonably sane volume |
| 19:01.55 | DocScrutinizer | at any volume |
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| 19:13.30 | Funnyface | yeah I was hoping that using the 40kbit AAC steam would make the radio save some power, but it seems that all the power goes into decoding the AAC stream |
| 19:14.04 | Funnyface | I guess there isn't too much to save on a lower bandwidth stream anyway, since the radio is always active anyway |
| 19:14.38 | Funnyface | could be nice to set up a middle box for the stream which sends down the stream in bursts instead of at a steady rate |
| 19:15.21 | Funnyface | maxing out the bandwidth for a while, then taking a break to let the radio turn off, then send off another burst at full bandwidth |
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| 19:17.22 | SpeedEvil | Funnyface: probably not |
| 19:17.52 | SpeedEvil | Funnyface: Unfortunately, on many mobiles, the cost is keeping the CPU alive to stream the data to the DAC |
| 19:18.16 | SpeedEvil | And pulseaudio doesn't help much. |
| 19:18.43 | SpeedEvil | I keep meaning to read the datasheet to see how 'off' the SoC can be, while still keeping the DMA core alive to throw data at the DAC |
| 19:18.59 | SpeedEvil | But random IRL stuff keeps getting in the way. |
| 19:21.07 | derf | I've long wanted a music player that decoded the whole thing to RAM up-front and just let the device DMA it out as needed. |
| 19:22.11 | SpeedEvil | derf: "" |
| 19:23.05 | SpeedEvil | derf: That kinda relies on the SoC being able to cheaply keep the DMA unit up while not the CPU |
| 19:23.27 | SpeedEvil | It's a pity the techology makes it difficult to integrate a meg or so of RAM on the DAC |
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| 19:26.46 | dRbiG | hello. i'm looking for a way to sync n900 via bluetooth or the cable with evolution, any ideas? i had some wierd bluetooth error that seems to be not resolved yet, so other suggestions most welcome :) |
| 19:31.44 | Cor-Ai | sobes over his broken n900 |
| 19:32.01 | SpeedEvil | Cor-Ai: ?How broken? |
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| 19:32.41 | Cor-Ai | SpeedEvil: the micro usb port has fallen of :/ |
| 19:32.58 | SpeedEvil | Ah. |
| 19:33.03 | Cor-Ai | sucks.. |
| 19:33.03 | SpeedEvil | Where are you? |
| 19:33.08 | Cor-Ai | swe |
| 19:33.14 | SpeedEvil | At least in the EU, it's still in warranty. |
| 19:33.23 | SpeedEvil | Though however now they're not replacing with n900s. |
| 19:33.30 | SpeedEvil | I wonder if you could ow argue for a n9. |
| 19:33.49 | Cor-Ai | dont want an n9 |
| 19:34.25 | Cor-Ai | but i think i can reattach it :) |
| 19:36.59 | SpeedEvil | forgets the link. |
| 19:37.05 | SpeedEvil | Cor-Ai: you've done SMD soldering? |
| 19:37.14 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer - what's the reattach link? |
| 19:37.28 | kerio | Cor-Ai: afaik it's better to get a new microusb port though |
| 19:37.36 | SpeedEvil | Probably, yes. |
| 19:37.39 | kerio | if the port fell off the contacts are probably fucked though |
| 19:37.45 | kerio | so it's going to be a bit harder |
| 19:38.05 | SpeedEvil | Look closley at the contacts. If the five at the back have no copper on them, it's probably reattachable without too much hastle. |
| 19:38.14 | Cor-Ai | yeah, but its worth a shoot |
| 19:38.26 | SpeedEvil | Of the ripped off socket that is |
| 19:39.54 | SpeedEvil | ~usbrepair |
| 19:40.47 | SpeedEvil | Anyway. |
| 19:41.24 | Cor-Ai | :) |
| 19:41.30 | DocScrutinizer | ~usbfix |
| 19:41.30 | infobot | somebody said usbfix was http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) |
| 19:41.32 | SpeedEvil | Clean off any ripped off pads with the iron. Scrape off some of the soldermask right next to the edges of the port. Solder the edges of the port to that. |
| 19:41.43 | SpeedEvil | that, yes |
| 19:41.51 | SpeedEvil | After soldering on the back pins |
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| 19:43.21 | Cor-Ai | yeah, its nt me that is going to do it, i got a friend that woorks with repering hardwear |
| 19:44.51 | DocScrutinizer | so print out the whole thread or send him the link above |
| 19:45.02 | Cor-Ai | i will :) |
| 19:45.04 | Cor-Ai | ty! |
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| 20:04.37 | DocScrutinizer | and all cheers to dr_frost for this excellently edited thread |
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| 20:26.12 | nilsge | hello, n900 here. I have a bluetooth headset and it works perfectly for making calls. But If I want to listen to music mostly the music comes from the speaker, eventhough the phone does show the headphone symbol. I have to reconnect the bluetooth device from 2 to 20 times (until I give up) before I hear the music over my set. How can I find out what is going on here? |
| 20:26.47 | nilsge | I have a ssh server running and I am familiar with the command line. |
| 20:28.33 | nilsge | I made a reflash and fresh install to check if any of the headphone daemons or whatever I installed over the time was making problems. Nothing, the same problem right from the start without anything extra installed. (But still normals calls just work fine) |
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| 20:29.10 | Macer | finally sent my n900 to my buddy to solder the port back on |
| 20:30.30 | SpeedEvil | Good luck! |
| 20:31.55 | Macer | thanks |
| 20:32.11 | Macer | he said the pads are good so it shouldnt be too difficult |
| 20:32.42 | Macer | but he has a doctorate in electronic engineering so i am sure he can do it way better than i ever could |
| 20:33.04 | Macer | especially since he has million dollar equipment to do it with at his job :-) |
| 20:33.34 | Macer | i would have tried it with a radio shack soldering iron |
| 20:33.41 | SpeedEvil | It's fine with that |
| 20:33.43 | SpeedEvil | And skill. |
| 20:33.53 | Macer | i dont have the skill lol |
| 20:33.55 | Macer | but |
| 20:34.08 | Macer | he did show me which port i had to get from digikey |
| 20:34.20 | Macer | i got 10 lol |
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| 20:34.44 | Macer | and i asked if he could take pics of the repair |
| 20:34.57 | Macer | for the rest of us sorry bastards with broken ports |
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| 22:04.01 | DocScrutinizer | ~seen nilsge |
| 22:04.06 | infobot | nilsge <hammerfest@gateway/shell/devio.us/x-rmenfvwzzhuvbbwu> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 1h 35m 33s ago, saying: 'I made a reflash and fresh install to check if any of the headphone daemons or whatever I installed over the time was making problems. Nothing, the same problem right from the start without anything extra installed. (But still normals calls just work fine)'. |
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| 22:05.33 | DocScrutinizer | Macer: I'm more interested in getting some 2 .. 3 of those ports |
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| 22:06.29 | Estel_ | hello there |
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| 22:08.01 | Estel_ | Could someone tell me, how can I play .vob (from DVDs) files in Maemo Media Player? When I try to do so, I got error "unsupported sound format". Ho ever, I think there is no problem with video itself - at least thumbnails are generated without problems. |
| 22:09.31 | Estel_ | So, I see from within media player what I'm going to play, but when I try, I get sound format error. I know I can use mplayer (with any frontend for it), but it lacks hardware acceleration, so I got 100% CPU usage. Sound play smoothly, and video almos |
| 22:09.48 | Estel_ | almost* - with little, very little effect of framedrop. |
| 22:10.05 | Estel_ | I would love being able to play it hardware accelerated. |
| 22:10.12 | Estel_ | Thanks in advance for answer |
| 22:10.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | transcode is the magic word I guess |
| 22:11.51 | DocScrutinizer51 | or maybe the latest version of codecs-dirty or what it's called has some support for that soundtrack format |
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| 22:15.28 | texasmynsted | Where/how do i do escape key on n900? |
| 22:16.32 | Macer | DocScrutinizer: i have some extra ones |
| 22:16.42 | Macer | if he is able to get it working i can send you the spare ones if you need them |
| 22:18.28 | Macer | let me print the receipt and i can tell you the part number he said to get.. he knows more about this than anybody.. he tried to guess at it by the pics i sent him which would probably be the best one to use. |
| 22:18.42 | DocScrutinizer51 | well not exactly "need" so far (crosses fingers) |
| 22:19.31 | Macer | heh |
| 22:19.42 | Macer | open it and enforce it :) otherwise it is just a matter of time |
| 22:19.51 | Macer | and once it goes it is a pain to put back on |
| 22:20.11 | Macer | the digikey part is H11574CT-ND |
| 22:20.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | I'm actually pondering or even scheduling that |
| 22:20.39 | Macer | i just sent it to him today and it should get there thursday. hopefully he can do something with it |
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| 22:20.52 | Macer | he said the pads are in good shape so it shouldn't be too difficult |
| 22:21.04 | Macer | but he can't really tell until he gets it |
| 22:21.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | he got the exact footprint from my bare board scnas? |
| 22:21.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | scans* |
| 22:21.29 | Macer | i don't know tbh |
| 22:21.49 | Macer | i just sent him a bunch of pics of the board... he may have found them or looked them up |
| 22:22.10 | Macer | and i also sent him pics of the old and new ports... and the one i got from ebay |
| 22:22.25 | Macer | the ebay one was actualy the wrong port.. talk about F------- for a rating :) |
| 22:22.40 | Macer | damn false advertising chinese. :) |
| 22:22.55 | Macer | i got 10 of them and sent him 7 just in case |
| 22:23.02 | Macer | they're only $1.32 |
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| 22:23.48 | Macer | well.. digikey is funny. my bad.. they are actually 1.30200 :) i guess like gas prices? where they do the thousanth of a penny? |
| 22:24.23 | Macer | how does that work? lol. |
| 22:24.49 | Estel_ | thanks, DocScrutinizer, checking that. |
| 22:24.54 | DocScrutinizer51 | I had a hard time finding any exactlym5ching spare. Found a nice thru hole part though that probably would mod just great, with a pliers to bend the posts |
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| 22:26.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | exactly matching* |
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| 22:36.27 | Estel_ | DocScrutinizer, I can't seems to find 'transcode', and obviously, google searching result in many irrelevant results |
| 22:36.49 | Estel_ | also, I can't seem to find anything related to codes, dirty or whatsnot. Is it in repos? |
| 22:37.07 | Estel_ | I've tried with all packages, not only user section, of course |
| 22:37.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | transcoding is a process, not n executable |
| 22:38.08 | Estel_ | lol I see |
| 22:38.20 | Estel_ | I know, I just thought someone named package like that |
| 22:38.28 | Estel_ | ;P |
| 22:38.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | I think on regular linux there's a transcode package |
| 22:39.13 | Estel_ | will do. I just hoped for hardware accelerated playback of DVDs via H-E-N and slim, portable USB DVD drive |
| 22:39.28 | kerio | haha what |
| 22:39.34 | Macer | use re-encode with handbrake |
| 22:39.40 | Macer | to h264/aac |
| 22:39.53 | Macer | you can find the video specs online i'm sure |
| 22:40.02 | kerio | you will *not* power a usb dvd drive on the n900's usb port |
| 22:40.06 | DocScrutinizer51 | Estel_: ask MohammadAG - he did exactly that |
| 22:40.10 | Estel_ | yes, I will |
| 22:40.12 | Macer | i forgot what they were for an n900 but it plays video rather well |
| 22:40.13 | Estel_ | already did |
| 22:40.31 | Estel_ | DocScrutinizer, thanks. You mean he got accelerated playback? O_o |
| 22:40.41 | kerio | Estel_: wtf |
| 22:40.47 | kerio | did it work? :o |
| 22:40.59 | Estel_ | kerio, why surprised? with Y-cable everything work |
| 22:41.01 | Macer | a 32GB sd should be more than enough for quite a bit of video encoded for the n900 |
| 22:41.06 | DocScrutinizer51 | I'm not ure if he finally got accel. His youtube vid anyway isn't |
| 22:41.12 | kerio | i said power |
| 22:41.15 | kerio | not use |
| 22:41.27 | Macer | kerio: the y cable is giving him power from somewhere else |
| 22:41.33 | Macer | :) |
| 22:41.42 | Macer | but that seems a little ghetto heh |
| 22:41.46 | Estel_ | Macer, thank. You're right, I feel pretty comfortable with video codecs and Your suggestion seems reasonable. As I've said I hoped for DVD playback from discs :P |
| 22:41.52 | kerio | unless you're like powering it with 5 or 6 n900s |
| 22:41.59 | kerio | it would be awesome |
| 22:42.02 | Macer | Estel_: it is best to just encode with handbrake |
| 22:42.05 | Estel_ | Yea DocScrutinizer, I saw this video long time ago. Nice thing. |
| 22:42.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | yeah 200mA prolly a bit weak or a DVD drive |
| 22:42.21 | Macer | playing actual dvd video doesn't sound pracrical |
| 22:42.29 | kerio | or perhaps 4 n900s, each playing a fourth of the video |
| 22:42.35 | Estel_ | kerio, You just need Y-cable |
| 22:42.40 | kerio | in a way that gives you a bigger screen |
| 22:42.50 | Macer | kerio: heh. he said he was using a y cable... so he is powering from elsewhere |
| 22:42.58 | kerio | Estel_: yeah but where do you get the fucking power |
| 22:43.05 | Estel_ | I got 2A 5V power supply, only *very* little bigger than Nokia N900 charger |
| 22:43.14 | Estel_ | from fuckin wall socket? :P |
| 22:43.22 | Macer | haha |
| 22:43.24 | kerio | that's cheating ._. |
| 22:43.46 | Macer | i would say lugging around a usb optial drive to play dvds is a bad idea all on its own :) |
| 22:43.57 | Estel_ | hahaha somehow yes |
| 22:44.02 | Estel_ | but when I travel |
| 22:44.15 | Estel_ | I take my N900 with me, minoi USBkeyboard |
| 22:44.25 | Estel_ | mini Keyboard,not mini-usb :) |
| 22:44.27 | Macer | like i said.. .a 32GB SD and encoded video is a far better option |
| 22:44.36 | Estel_ | bluetooth mouse |
| 22:44.43 | Estel_ | pico projector |
| 22:44.46 | kerio | who buys dvds anyway |
| 22:44.58 | Estel_ | USB DVDmslim type |
| 22:45.05 | Macer | you can adjust bitrate to make them smaller.. i mean it is a tiny screen anyways. you really won't notice the difference in res or bitrate unless you really drop it down |
| 22:45.11 | Estel_ | and Its much lightweight and portable than carrying laptop |
| 22:45.20 | Macer | but 200MB/hr should be very watchable |
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| 22:45.32 | kerio | Macer: tv out :) |
| 22:45.37 | Estel_ | and it's modulable. |
| 22:45.38 | DocScrutinizer51 | indeed quality of a DVD is overkill for N900 video |
| 22:45.45 | Macer | kerio: then up it to 350/hr ;) |
| 22:45.55 | Estel_ | tv out got lower ress than N900 screen unfortunatelly. |
| 22:46.08 | Macer | yeah. it isn't the best tv out on the planet for a phone |
| 22:46.13 | Estel_ | I was up to say, that only thing I lack is hdmi out :P |
| 22:46.14 | Macer | but it was a little ahead of its time ;) |
| 22:46.25 | Macer | like the n95 |
| 22:46.37 | Macer | tv out was a new concept for a phone.. there weren't too many devices pullling it off |
| 22:47.02 | Macer | not to mention.... if you encode the video and put it on the sd instead.. you won't wall power |
| 22:47.04 | Estel_ | as for dvd drive - i think rather of being able to access any DVD someone may throw at me |
| 22:47.10 | Macer | n900 lasts quite a while fully charged and playing video |
| 22:47.11 | Estel_ | be it data or video |
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| 22:47.24 | kerio | lol Estel_ |
| 22:47.38 | Estel_ | Macer, true |
| 22:47.38 | kerio | i removed my laptop's optical drive because i wasn't using it |
| 22:48.04 | Estel_ | I'm kind of person that actually use optical drives quite a lot |
| 22:48.04 | Macer | yeah.. i haven't used an optical drive in quite a while myself |
| 22:48.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | honestly how many TV with hdmi in are in your neighbourhood? may vary between 95% and next to 0 |
| 22:48.16 | Macer | even my gf can play a video file on her stuff :) |
| 22:48.24 | Macer | no offense to women or girlfriends.. but.... you know? |
| 22:48.45 | Macer | to wean a woman off a disc is like telling her to never wash her hair again |
| 22:48.50 | Estel_ | DocScrutinizer, places where I travel usually got tvs with hdmi in, but I'm rather thinking about projector |
| 22:49.08 | kerio | Macer: you insulted at most like 3 people here, i bet |
| 22:49.27 | Macer | kerio: haha.. well.. the ones here would know how to play a video file ;) |
| 22:49.28 | Estel_ | I got acess to not-so- overpriced LED projectors, that weight 53 grams, fit in Your hand (smaller than palm, actually) |
| 22:49.48 | Estel_ | and provide quite bright and 800x600 picture |
| 22:49.50 | x29a | and have .5 lumen? |
| 22:49.58 | Macer | .5 lumen hahahah |
| 22:50.02 | Estel_ | up to 50 inches |
| 22:50.09 | Estel_ | actually, about 15 :P |
| 22:50.13 | x29a | oi |
| 22:50.30 | Estel_ | advertised 50:P real ~15 |
| 22:50.35 | x29a | im waiting for laser projectors to become affordable, without having read what you guys talk about |
| 22:51.02 | Estel_ | + I can connect hdmi or s-video or composite |
| 22:51.13 | Estel_ | as You can imagine, composite is worst option :P |
| 22:51.28 | Estel_ | in terms of quality of image |
| 22:51.53 | Estel_ | anyway, for my own videos I'll stick with re-encoding |
| 22:51.59 | Macer | i just hope i get my n900 back and it works |
| 22:52.06 | Macer | this g2 is driving me crazy |
| 22:52.12 | Macer | htc makes some cheaply made phones |
| 22:52.21 | Estel_ | BTW, DocScrutinizer and others, what about that codes-dirty? where one can find it? |
| 22:52.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | err, wait minute |
| 22:53.48 | Estel_ | thanks in advance |
| 22:53.52 | Estel_ | btw, as for powering |
| 22:54.26 | Estel_ | If I would be more freaky-geeky than I am, I would made myself nice bracelet with 5v output |
| 22:54.54 | Estel_ | buying something like christgift's li-ions, You can get very high capacity for cheap |
| 22:55.26 | Estel_ | + little, very little pcb with high efficiency 5v transformation |
| 22:55.39 | Estel_ | and You can Y-cable without a wall socket :P |
| 22:56.37 | DocScrutinizer | Estel_: I think I mixed things up a bit, anyway http://maemo.org/packages/view/pulseaudio-module-extra/ |
| 22:56.41 | Estel_ | no problem to get 10Ah of stored power @ 5V in nice, not-so-heavy bracelet. On belt, You can get 30Ah with ease |
| 22:56.48 | Estel_ | ok, thanks, will check |
| 22:57.26 | Estel_ | I would never buy commercial power bracelets oe belts, doing it Yourself is much more fun and 3-4 capacity gain for same price. |
| 22:58.10 | DocScrutinizer | Estel_: http://maemo.org/packages/view/gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-extra/ |
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| 22:58.25 | Estel_ | thanks |
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| 23:00.48 | DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.org/packages/view/gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly/ |
| 23:01.14 | DocScrutinizer | bad ugly dirty whocares |
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| 23:01.53 | DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.org/packages/search/?org_maemo_packages_search[1][property]=name&org_maemo_packages_search[1][constraint]=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search[1][value]=gstream&org_maemo_packages_search[2][property]=title&org_maemo_packages_search[2][constraint]=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search[2][value]=same |
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| 23:03.11 | DocScrutinizer | this URL *begs* for sme SQL injection exploit ;-P |
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| 23:04.56 | Estel_ | lol |
| 23:05.16 | Estel_ | DocScrutinizer, erm, ugly set is more bleeding-edge than bad? |
| 23:05.28 | DocScrutinizer | nfc |
| 23:05.34 | Estel_ | it seems that ugly replace bad (dependencies) |
| 23:06.43 | Estel_ | and what about plugins-good-extra? |
| 23:06.54 | DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.org/packages/view/decoders-support/ |
| 23:07.03 | Estel_ | I feel a little lost in this good extra bad good ugly world |
| 23:07.27 | Estel_ | what the heck? |
| 23:07.40 | DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.org/packages/view/ac3-support/ |
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| 23:11.08 | DocScrutinizer | Estel_: tell me if any of those ~60+ packages fixed your problem ;-D |
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| 23:11.36 | Estel_ | thanks DocScrutinizer, it seems I already got plugins-bad and decoder-support |
| 23:11.44 | Estel_ | will try with ugly and ac3 |
| 23:12.06 | DocScrutinizer | It seems decoders-support claims to include ac3 |
| 23:12.44 | DocScrutinizer | Uses GStreamer decoders and tracker mimetype registering tool |
| 23:12.46 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:13.08 | Estel_ | yea |
| 23:13.37 | DocScrutinizer | which of course doesn't preclude that ac3-support works better than decoder-support on ac3 |
| 23:14.03 | DocScrutinizer | a nightmare, honestly |
| 23:14.08 | Estel_ | I wonder what "multiverse" version is |
| 23:14.18 | Estel_ | (of plugins-bad) |
| 23:14.21 | Estel_ | yea :P |
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| 23:14.49 | Estel_ | and I can't seem to find ac3-support package via fapman, neither in installed or available |
| 23:15.01 | Estel_ | will try via package interface |
| 23:15.34 | Estel_ | also, ugly replace bad, but bad doesn't replace ugly, so I tyink ugly is 'better' than bad:P |
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| 23:17.51 | Estel_ | decoders support is maintained by same person as ac3 support, and decoder support replaces ac3 support |
| 23:18.07 | Estel_ | so I think it's best to keep it. |
| 23:18.12 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, it's 1 month later |
| 23:18.44 | DocScrutinizer | you'd think it's just a metapkg to include the other pkgs |
| 23:21.29 | Estel_ | damn, ugly result in 'error code 1' while in dpkg -i state |
| 23:21.41 | Estel_ | and some pipeline errors too |
| 23:22.30 | Estel_ | what I expected, it's ugly. package description could be better, 'might pose distribution problems' may mean everything |
| 23:22.37 | Estel_ | I thought about copyright :P |
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| 23:24.50 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
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| 23:30.47 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer: you're going to love this |
| 23:30.52 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer: http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=31769&postcount=1 |
| 23:31.07 | javispedro | well, I've should posted in #harmattan, but still, I invite you to read. |
| 23:32.36 | DocScrutinizer | ~hail javispedro |
| 23:32.36 | infobot | ACTION bows down to javispedro and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 23:32.59 | Estel_ | lol, I don't want to know what else You guys did to infobot |
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| 23:33.43 | Estel_ | damn, nothing seems to fix this audio coodec problem (ended up installing plugins-good-extra) |
| 23:34.06 | Estel_ | I wonder why mplayer play this mpeg without problem, and Maemo with it's gstreamer can't |
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| 23:34.36 | Estel_ | I know totem player in ED can be made to use HA, maybe that will work... Gonna try, someday :P |
| 23:34.47 | wip_archl | RIP lcuk... |
| 23:35.10 | wip_archl | will carry on his work... |
| 23:35.23 | Macer_ | did lcuk die? |
| 23:38.15 | Estel_ | Macer_, You were sitting under stone for last week? |
| 23:38.48 | Macer | probably |
| 23:38.58 | Macer | i didn't get this week's issue of Maemo Now ? |
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| 23:39.19 | Macer | what's wrong with lcuk? |
| 23:39.40 | SpeedEvil | He's passed on. |
| 23:40.05 | Macer | oh wow. really? damn that's horrible. how? |
| 23:40.07 | javispedro | Macer: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-community/2011-September/004501.html |
| 23:41.03 | SpeedEvil | Though his client is still up somewhere. |
| 23:42.07 | Macer | wow |
| 23:42.28 | Macer | that is depressing... sorry. i honestly didn't know |
| 23:42.35 | Estel_ | Macer, we were exactly as mch shocked |
| 23:42.38 | Estel_ | no worries |
| 23:42.56 | Macer | did he just die? what was wrong with him? |
| 23:42.58 | Estel_ | even not knowing lcuk, it was thrilling to be here |
| 23:43.18 | Estel_ | talking, with a little hope that it's hoax |
| 23:43.41 | Estel_ | and then, Tracey used lcuk "ghost" irc account logged to tell us that it is not joke |
| 23:44.00 | Estel_ | one sentence only, but earthquake for #maemo |
| 23:44.26 | Macer | yeah that's horrible. :( |
| 23:44.39 | Estel_ | really, I won't forget that, can recall what She said with accuracy to single word and punctation :( |
| 23:44.46 | Macer | never met him in person but he was a good guy. |
| 23:45.06 | Macer | damn |
| 23:47.13 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: I well noticed you didn't even start to mention a word about *how* you achieved set point in round two ;-D |
| 23:47.36 | DocScrutinizer | and right so |
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