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00:26.17x29ajavispedro: where can you find them? i was looking for a programmable watch for like ages
00:26.40javispedrox29a: ebay
00:26.54javispedrox29a: but we've been having discussions on this channel recently about modern programmable watches
00:27.10x29adarn, missed that part
00:28.40x29awhats the newest gadget?
00:28.55x29ai was close to building my own
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02:10.14DocScrutinizerx29a: metawatch
02:11.43DocScrutinizeraka https://estore.ti.com/MSP-WDS430BT2000D-Bluetooth-Wearable-Watch-development-system-with-Digital-display-P2447.aspx
02:13.07DocScrutinizerif you were fine with DIY grade mech design and want to save some bucks, then maybe https://estore.ti.com/eZ430-Chronos-433-eZ430-Chronos-Wireless-Watch-Development-Tool-P1734.aspx
02:13.44DocScrutinizeror the 866 or even 900 variant
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02:20.00Evanescencehow to install ctags for N900 ? I can not find it in "apt-cache search ctags"
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07:19.20JaffaMorning, all
07:21.59Evanescencehow to install ctags for N900 ? I can not find it in "apt-cache search ctags"
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07:22.35cityLightshi, I forgot my N900 at home
07:22.56cityLightscan I forward calls to my office number using the command line?
07:22.59cityLightsvia ssh
07:24.48cehtehpossibly, at least you can start a vncserver and use the gui to establish forwarding
07:25.03cityLightshi cehteh
07:25.07cehtehhi
07:25.09cityLightscan't I avoid vnc?
07:25.21cityLightsI am seeking the dbus object
07:25.26cityLightshttps://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wiki/index.php?Tools&id=1106&type=g
07:25.54cehtehdunno if there is any commandline interface to setup forwarding, possibly through dbus or maybe some existing app, i never used that
07:26.21cityLightswhat should I ask google?
07:26.35cityLightsI tried maemo call forward csd.nokia.com
07:26.47cityLightsdidnt find it in the wiki either
07:27.22keriocityLights: i think your only options are to look at the source code or to actually do it through the GUI while dbus-monitor runs :)
07:27.40kerioit's not that you can't avoid VNC, it's that it's going to be really painful if you do
07:28.06cityLightswhich source code to seek/
07:28.07cityLights?
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07:35.26EvanescenceIs there a ctags package for Maemo N900 ?
07:35.39cehtehthere was some collection for dbus calls somewhere on tmp
07:35.40cehtehtmo
07:36.17hiemanshuhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/DBus/DBus_in_Freemantle#D-Bus
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07:50.30cityLightshttps://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/call-forward.c?revision=1&root=call-forward&view=markup
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07:52.05cityLightsseems I can do it easy
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07:55.28cityLightshi lardman
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08:15.06kevin_bhow could I enlarge my ext2 image ?
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08:16.26keriokevin_b: i get a lot of spam about that!
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08:18.54kevin_bkerio : :)
08:19.22kevin_bgoogle told me how to do it, muhaha
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08:21.27scaerdhi
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08:22.57scaerdIm trying to use nmap as sudo gainroot (UDP scan) but i get error   route_dst-netlink: cant find interface "gprs0". How can udp scan from maemo on a phone?
08:23.50scaerdifconfig shows gprs0 with working IP and the connection is working fine.
08:24.41kevin_bmmm, is the gsm interface able to "scan"?
08:24.54cehtehit isnt ethernet at least
08:24.55scaerdim on 3G
08:25.00kevin_bi guess that's possible
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08:25.18scaerdu mean the network doesnt support udp/ip ?
08:26.42scaerdim not sure how nmap scans udp, but ports show up as either filtered or open OR filtered
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08:27.06scaerdin maemo it does not find gprs0. tcp scans work fine.
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08:42.41lardmancityLights: a belated hello :)
08:52.29cityLightsI wish I could see amazon instant video on my N900
08:52.35cityLightsit wants flash 10....
08:52.42cityLightswill the N9 solve it?
08:53.22kerioi doubt the N9 will solve anything
08:53.24jieroIs there a way to improve N900's video recording?
08:54.05jieroI hope Nokia could open source and let others fix that lags...
08:58.21lardmanLag when starting recording or audio/video sync?
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09:00.26jierolardman: when recording
09:00.39jierolardman: and playback
09:01.06jierolardman:  watching it I felt losed some frames suddenly
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09:32.00DocScrutinizercityLights: as for time being it seems N9 will come with no flash support at all
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09:32.43DocScrutinizercityLights: mind you N9 is an iPhone-me-too
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09:44.21DocScrutinizercityLights:
09:44.24DocScrutinizerAT+CCFC=?
09:44.25DocScrutinizer+CCFC: (0-5)
09:44.27DocScrutinizerOK
09:44.29DocScrutinizerpnatd
09:45.08DocScrutinizersee http://mobil.nik.bmf.hu/tantargyak/mobil-2/gsm-at.ppt p.10
09:48.11DocScrutinizerat+ccfc=0,2
09:48.12DocScrutinizer+CCFC: 0,7
09:48.14DocScrutinizerOK
09:49.17auenfAT&V
09:49.27DocScrutinizer(note I'm handwaving regarding the parameters, the linked ppt is all but clear on them)
09:49.43auenftries to remember his modem commands
09:50.49DocScrutinizerauenf: you're pretty lost when trying to use old time 600ohm-landline modem codes on 3GPP ME
09:51.13DocScrutinizerat&v work great though ;-D
09:51.39DocScrutinizerwho'd have thought the BB5 cellmo has a "complete" set of registers ;-P
09:52.01DocScrutinizerACTIVE PROFILE:
09:52.02DocScrutinizerE1 Q0 V1 X5 &C1 &D2 &S0 &Y0
09:52.04DocScrutinizer+CMEE=0 +CSTA=129 +CBST=134,1,0 +CR=0 +CRC=0 +CLIP=0,2 +CLIR=0,2 +CSNS=0
09:52.05DocScrutinizer+CVHU=1 +DS=0,0,2048,32 +DR=0 +ILRR=0
09:52.06auenfpretty sure all the old school AT commands will work (or are emulated) in 3GPP devices ;)
09:52.07DocScrutinizerS00:000 S01:000 S02:043 S03:013 S04:010 S05:008 S07:075 S08:002
09:52.08DocScrutinizerS10:100 S12:050 S25:000
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09:53.29lardmanjiero: sorry for the delay, was doing baby bathing; I wonder if that's a GStreamer issue rather than DSP codec
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09:54.42jierolardman:  I think the mediaplayer by deafult not using GStreamer.
09:55.06lardmanhmm, not so sure about that - we're talking about N900 here?
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09:55.57lardmanpretty sure it's all gst, probably also on N950, though I've not looked
09:56.11lardmanyou could check that the media player is linked against of course
09:56.16lardmans/that/what
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10:00.35jierothanks, as Nokia abandoned N900, no more support on it I suppose...
10:00.45jieroSome bugs there I guess.
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10:02.54DocScrutinizerauenf: most of them, yes
10:03.22DocScrutinizeranyway for call forwarding I don't recall any such function in pots
10:08.34chem|stDocScrutinizer: moo
10:11.00DocScrutinizermoo
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12:26.16ruskiehttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/06/nokia_ring_tone/ <-- omg... are they finally getting rid of that annoying Nokia tune???
12:26.41jacekowskioh no
12:33.18MohammadAGthe N950 ringtone's nice
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12:33.41ruskiean orchestral version of the nokia tune might be interesting
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12:33.55ruskiemaybe a bit more slowed down
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12:41.01SpeedEvilNokia new ringtone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NbIGnY_DSIE#t=56s (perhaps with the bassline dropped)
12:41.19SpeedEvilIn my defence - someone linked me to it.
12:44.15MohammadAGI have the perfect version
12:44.43ruskieme to... windows fanfare ;)
12:45.11MohammadAGno, http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=7609500&q=hi&newref=1 :)
12:45.36MohammadAG(your browser window may resize, I assure you though, it's no meatspin)
12:45.49SpeedEvilTrue. - If and only if phone speakers had actual bass
12:46.14ruskiedon't have any sound listening tech at work really
12:47.02SpeedEvilWhy do I have the strange urge to do a review of a mango as a phone for youtube.
12:47.13ruskierofl
12:47.20ruskiethat would be an interesting review
12:48.55MohammadAG"So as you can see, I left it dismantled for a week, and it became rotten, we expect this to be due to prerelease software"
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12:49.47SpeedEvilI buy mangos monthly, and keep them in the fridge
12:49.52SpeedEvillast three weeks easily
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13:02.24RST38hhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/06/ubuntu_11_10_beta_1_review/ <== Ubuntu gone
13:04.23Arkenoilooks ugly as hell^Wgnome3
13:04.38bindiunusable PoS
13:05.20MohammadAGhas the best repos, just install gnome 2 on top
13:06.04hiemanshuwell if you use Ubuntu, I feel sorry for you
13:06.12hiemanshuthey have X11 conf files in /usr/lib somewhere
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13:06.17hiemanshu/usr/local
13:06.19bindithere is no conf files
13:06.25bindithat's the fun part
13:06.31MohammadAGUmm
13:06.32hiemanshuthere is
13:06.37MohammadAGthat's been the case for Ubuntu and Fedora
13:06.40hiemanshuif you want to add custom stuff, there is
13:06.43hiemanshuMohammadAG: Fedora?
13:06.45bindiright
13:06.48MohammadAGyes
13:06.53MohammadAGit auto detects configuration
13:06.57bindianyway I feel sorry for those who use linux as their desktop ´_`
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13:07.07MohammadAGyou can use a config file in the default location
13:07.12MohammadAG/etc/X11/Xorg.conf
13:07.15MohammadAGxorg*
13:07.29MohammadAGif that exists, it will use it
13:07.36hiemanshuMohammadAG: not for ubuntu anymore
13:07.38MohammadAGif you mess up the file, just mv/rm it, and it defaults back
13:07.43MohammadAGwrong
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13:08.22MohammadAGmohammad@mohammad-i5laptop:~/lyricsmtf$ ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
13:08.22MohammadAG/etc/X11/xorg.conf
13:08.25MohammadAGit's 11.04
13:08.52RST38hMohammad: Apparently they just kicked Gnome2
13:08.59RST38hMohammad: completely, I mean
13:09.08RST38hNot clear on Gnome3
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13:10.27Arkenoiwonders what is attractive in g3 that much so people start COPYING it!
13:10.28MohammadAGRST38h, afaik they kicked X11 in 11.10
13:10.40MohammadAGWayland FTW!!!1
13:10.41MohammadAGhides
13:11.07bindieverything is so complicated on linux :)
13:11.09bindiwindows, it just works
13:11.13RST38hMohammad: Noooooooooooooooooooo....
13:11.25EvanescenceCtrl-I is same with Tab on N900. so which key is same with "Esc" on N900 ? I want to used in vim .
13:11.25MohammadAGWindows just works?
13:11.26MohammadAGhahahaa
13:11.36MohammadAGuse :q
13:11.42bindiit does :>
13:12.08RST38hArkenoi: they are not copying g3. They (unity, g3, windows) are all copying ipad
13:12.21bindi:D
13:12.26RST38hArkenoi: Or, if you wish, Maemo4 hildon-desktop :)
13:12.39MohammadAGI wish they'd copy 5's
13:12.55MohammadAGhildon-desktop would be awesome on a tablet
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13:13.12RST38hArkenoi: There is now a popular belief that users no longer work with documents on their computers, so they do not need a desktop
13:13.34peetahEvanescence: Ctrl-C behaves as Esc in vim
13:13.42RST38hArkenoi; what they need is a task manager to let them switch between their music player, video player, online stores, and an ebook reader
13:14.02RST38hand web browser of course
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13:14.28Evanescencepeetah: thanks
13:14.35RST38hhence all these task-manager based shells, and it will get worse with time
13:16.19Arkenoiwhat I hate most in g3 is that in dual monitor config one of monitors stays intact when i switch workspaces
13:16.45Arkenoiand second thing is that almost all settings are just GONE
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13:22.49RST38hNormal people do not need settings. Only freaks do.
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14:15.35Jartzawhere is unrar for maemo5?
14:15.42MohammadAGapt-get install unrar
14:17.43SpeedEvilprobably tools repo, you should add that
14:17.52MohammadAGno, devel
14:17.56JartzaI seem to be missing a repo
14:17.58SpeedEvilThough beware that thesea re not optified, and can do bad stuff to your device if you fill up /
14:18.05SpeedEviloh
14:18.37Jartzasure, I just wasn't aware of the repo it's in
14:18.40cityLightsI used to have screen in the n800
14:18.44cityLightsbut no more
14:18.45Jartzahmm. devel seems to be enabled
14:19.12cityLightscan anyone pls build screen?
14:19.23jacekowskicityLights: it's there
14:19.26jacekowskicityLights: in tools repo
14:19.29DocScrutinizerIroN900:~# apt-cache search unrar
14:19.30DocScrutinizerunrar-fm - A simple file-manager add-on to unrar files by clicking on them
14:19.32DocScrutinizerunrar - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)
14:19.33DocScrutinizerunrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files
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14:20.07DocScrutinizerscreen - a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation
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14:20.44Jartzaahh. now it works. thx.
14:20.52DocScrutinizer500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/tools/free Packages
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14:21.24DocScrutinizerIroN900:~# apt-cache policy  unrar-free ->500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages
14:25.49DocScrutinizergenerally http://maemo.org/packages/ is your friend
14:27.30DocScrutinizergets you to http://maemo.org/packages/view/screen-n900/ for example in a second
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14:28.18DocScrutinizersame for unrar
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14:30.12DocScrutinizeradmittedly it may take 0..20s if maemo.org has ointment day
14:30.24DocScrutinizer10..20
14:32.12Venemo_N950morning Doc!
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14:39.16DocScrutinizerhi Venemo_N950
14:39.36DocScrutinizerheard there's a new firmware for your n950 ;-P
14:39.51Venemo_N950what's up?
14:39.59DocScrutinizergnhnhnhn
14:40.12Venemo_N950wut? new firmware? where can I download?
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14:41.49DocScrutinizerNokia hid it at the same location where you previously got the "old" OCF
14:41.56Venemo_N950DocScrutinizer, or is this some kind of joke?
14:42.04DocScrutinizernot really
14:42.21Venemo_N950hm, gimeealink!
14:42.40Venemo_N950can I update ota?
14:43.23DocScrutinizerhttp://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/latest.log.html#t2011-09-06T10:25:25
14:44.26MohammadAGwhat update?
14:45.32DocScrutinizerthe SEKRIT update
14:46.06RST38hupdate? update?!?
14:46.07Venemo_N950hmm
14:46.14DocScrutinizerOCF changed inadvertently
14:46.21MohammadAGso it's 22-6?
14:46.21Venemo_N950DocScrutinizer, does it actually work?
14:46.41MohammadAGmakes me wonder if it breaks javispedro's break
14:46.46DocScrutinizersome say it works, some (hiemansu) say if fails for them
14:46.57DocScrutinizernobody knows what'S the true diff
14:47.09Venemo_N950DocScrutinizer, does it workforyou?
14:47.15DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: fair assumption
14:47.22fiferboyI reflash last night with the OCF, I don't see anything different offhand...
14:47.24Venemo_N950also, wut's the version number?
14:47.29DocScrutinizerVenemo_N950: I don't need a reflash right now
14:47.48Venemo_N950mhm
14:49.11hiemanshufiferboy: whats the md5sum of it?
14:49.23MohammadAG<DocScrutinizer> Venemo_N950: I don't need a reflash right now
14:49.29MohammadAGthat's where aegis comes in
14:49.42DocScrutinizeryou'd think if Nokia doesn't advertise it, it's either been a fix for sth terribly embarrassing or a fix for a security vulnerability
14:49.46MohammadAGedit an aegis config, and you'll need a reflash right away
14:50.05hiemanshuDocScrutinizer: for i in *aegis*; do cat 'DIE BITCH DIE' > $i; done
14:50.10hiemanshuDocScrutinizer: that should do it for you :P
14:50.10Venemo_N950fiferboy, wut's the version number?
14:50.21fiferboyhiemanshu, The flasher is on my home PC
14:50.36RST38hWhat is the version number, anyway?
14:50.39hiemanshufiferboy: if its 88 something new, 1c something old
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14:51.27fiferboy1.2011.22-6 in the about screen, that's the old one right?
14:51.40hiemanshuthey are numbered the same
14:51.46RST38hsound slike the old one
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14:52.49MohammadAGoh oh oh I know
14:52.57Venemo_N95022-6 IS the old one
14:53.01MohammadAGcheck About Device -> Warranty, maybe they made the joke funnier
14:53.21fiferboysame warranty message
14:53.37Venemo_N950MohammadAG, "this device comes with no warranty"?
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14:54.15Venemo_N950is it funnier?
14:54.40MohammadAGidk, haven't reflashed once yet
14:54.44cityLightsok I admit its been a while , since I used the maemo dbus
14:55.08cityLightsI may need help to achive putting the N900 to call farwarding
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14:57.23cityLightsneed to mimike this:
14:57.25cityLightsmethod call sender=:1.268 -> dest=com.nokia.csd serial=99 path=/com/nokia/csd/ss; interface=com.nokia.csd.SS; member=DivertActivate
14:57.26cityLights<PROTECTED>
14:57.26cityLights<PROTECTED>
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14:59.10DocScrutinizermeh
14:59.21DocScrutinizerwhy don't you use pnatd?
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14:59.47cityLightsI want to run it via shell
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15:01.08DocScrutinizerI'd bet I've seen a script using pnatd once
15:01.31MohammadAGit's a normal dbus message
15:01.33MohammadAGjust use dbus-send
15:01.36DocScrutinizerthere's no way to run pnatd other than in a shell btw - just to *quit* it is the trick
15:02.11cityLightsI had now idea what pnatd ment
15:02.19cityLightsbut I googled...
15:02.26cityLightsofono
15:03.04cityLightsbtw I shoudl add it to the wiki, as this is SO helpfull
15:03.15cityLightsMohammadAG: hi there
15:03.24DocScrutinizereh?
15:03.39DocScrutinizerpnatd is installed on maemo by default
15:03.57DocScrutinizerit's a command shell directly to modem
15:04.14cityLightsis there a wiki?
15:04.31DocScrutinizertakes old fashioned AT commands
15:05.10DocScrutinizerno, there's just google, and the links and cmdline quotes I pasted here for your some hours ago
15:05.22cityLightsMohammadAG: if you can spare a min a tell me how to issue the dbus-send command for what I put
15:05.40DocScrutinizerbut of course dbus-send should probably work too, though has potential to get a real PITA
15:07.09DocScrutinizerdbus-send --method-call com.nokia.csd /com/nokia/csd/ss com.nokia.csd.SS uint32=5 s="112233" uint32=20
15:07.13DocScrutinizersth like that
15:07.27DocScrutinizersee wiki phonecontrol for "templates"
15:07.35cityLightsthanks
15:07.40cityLightsyou are very helpfull
15:07.52DocScrutinizernot really, as I'm tired. Sorry
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15:08.23DocScrutinizerhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control
15:09.32DocScrutinizerhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Make_a_phone_call is a good template
15:11.38cityLightsdbus-send --type=method-call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS uint32=5 s="0731234567" uint32=20
15:11.46cityLightsMessage type "method-call" is not supported
15:11.49cityLightserr...
15:12.18DocScrutinizerand damn sure it's welcome when you add that call forward dbus call there, once you figured how to write it and tested it
15:12.52DocScrutinizermethod_call, and uint32:20
15:13.08DocScrutinizerotherwise it looks good
15:14.01DocScrutinizeryou quite probably don't need any " around the second path parameter
15:14.33cityLightsdbus-send --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597" variant:uint32:20
15:14.34cityLightsError org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.nokia.csd was not provided by any .service files
15:14.58DocScrutinizeryeah that's where I got mad about this stuff
15:15.56MohammadAGdbus-send --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd /com/nokia/csd/ss com.nokia.csd.SS uint32:5 string:"0737005597" uint32:20
15:15.59MohammadAGwhat about that?
15:16.23cityLightsError org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.nokia.csd was not provided by any .service files
15:16.24MohammadAGdbus-send -system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd /com/nokia/csd/ss com.nokia.csd.SS uint32:5 string:"0737005597" uint32:20
15:16.32MohammadAGerr, --system
15:17.06cityLightsdbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd /com/nokia/csd/ss com.nokia.csd.SS uint32:5 string:"0737005597" uint32:2
15:17.06cityLightsError org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "SS" with signature "usu" on interface "com.nokia.csd" doesn't exist
15:17.27MohammadAGwell, that's a better error
15:17.37DocScrutinizermarginally better, yeah
15:18.22DocScrutinizerthis might mean the parameter list is wrong, or the function name doesn't exist on that interface
15:18.37MohammadAGparameters are incorrect obviously
15:18.41DocScrutinizertry lower case ss just in case
15:18.42MohammadAGtry the variants again
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15:19.08DocScrutinizerwhere from are those variants?
15:19.30cityLightsdbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597" variant:uint32:20
15:19.30cityLightsError org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "SS" with signature "vsv" on interface "com.nokia.csd" doesn't exist
15:19.49DocScrutinizeralso what's about "member=DivertActivate"
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15:22.36DocScrutinizermdbus2 doesn't find any com.nikia.csd - no surprise as all those frigging broken dbus interfaces don't support introspection afaik
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15:24.16cityLightsnot true
15:24.43cityLightsI also found this
15:24.45cityLightsDBusMessage *msg = dbus_message_new_method_call("com.nokia.csd.SS",
15:24.45cityLights232 "/com/nokia/csd/ss",
15:24.45cityLights233 "com.nokia.csd.SS",
15:24.46cityLights234 "DivertActivate");
15:25.03cityLightsDocScrutinizer:https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wiki/index.php?Tools&id=1106&type=g
15:25.14cityLightsDBus introspection  works for csd
15:25.50DocScrutinizeruhuh
15:26.18DocScrutinizerso tell me why mdbis2 throws "MDBUS2> com.nokia.csd com[ERR]: The name com.nokia.csd was not provided by any .service files"
15:26.25DocScrutinizermdbus2 even
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15:27.37cityLightshttp://dpaste.com/609878/
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15:29.39DocScrutinizerIroN900:~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.DivertActivate variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597" variant:uint32:20
15:29.41DocScrutinizerError com.nokia.csd.SS.Error.Generic: Invalid Parameter
15:29.42DocScrutinizerIroN900:~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.DivertActivat variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597" variant:uint32:20
15:29.44DocScrutinizerError org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "DivertActivat" with signature "vsv" on interface "com.nokia.csd.SS" doesn't exist
15:31.04cityLightscom.nokia.csd.SS.ActivateDivert
15:31.09DocScrutinizerseems >>com.nokia.csd.SS.DivertActivat<< is worse than >>com.nokia.csd.SS.DivertActivate<<
15:31.52cityLightsIroN900:~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.ActivateDivert variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597 variant:uint32:20
15:32.00cityLights"
15:32.10cityLightsIroN900:~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.ActivateDivert variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597" variant:uint32:20
15:32.20cityLightserr
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15:33.04DocScrutinizer[2011-09-06 17:24:45] <cityLights> 234 "DivertActivate");
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15:33.50DocScrutinizer[2011-09-06 16:57:25] <cityLights> method call sender=:1.268 -> dest=com.nokia.csd serial=99 path=/com/nokia/csd/ss; interface=com.nokia.csd.SS; member=DivertActivate
15:33.57cityLightsI saw  "DivertActivate in dbus-monitor
15:34.25DocScrutinizerand it evidently is a known word
15:34.36DocScrutinizerunlike DivertActivat
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15:35.37DocScrutinizercityLights: anyway what's up with your pasted cmdlines above?
15:36.06cityLightsthese came from the dbus-monitpr
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15:36.37DocScrutinizerwut? >>dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.ActivateDivert variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597 variant:uint32:20<<  for sure isn't a dbus-monitor output
15:37.35cityLightsI ran bus-monitor --system destination=com.nokia.csd.SS
15:37.44cityLightsand got
15:37.47cityLightsmethod call sender=:1.268 -> dest=com.nokia.csd serial=99 path=/com/nokia/csd/ss; interface=com.nokia.csd.SS; member=DivertActivate
15:37.48cityLights<PROTECTED>
15:37.48cityLights<PROTECTED>
15:37.48cityLights<PROTECTED>
15:38.09DocScrutinizerIroN900:~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.DivertActivate uint32:5 string:"0737005597" uint32:20
15:38.10DocScrutinizerError com.nokia.csd.SS.Error.SS.General: CALL BARRED
15:38.18DocScrutinizerSUCCESS
15:38.39DocScrutinizerCALL BARRED means I'm not allowed to use that redirect destination
15:39.00cityLightsYES
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15:39.36cityLightslet me put it in the wiki now
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15:40.23DocScrutinizerplease remove the " around "/com/nokia/csd/ss"
15:40.27DocScrutinizeruseless
15:41.18DocScrutinizeralso some explaining words about what's the meaning of those uint32 would be great
15:41.29DocScrutinizer20 sounds like seconds until divert
15:41.35DocScrutinizerI might be wrong
15:41.59cityLightstrue
15:42.00DocScrutinizerNFC what 5 might mean
15:42.22MohammadAGtry 5 times and you'll win a toaster
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15:43.30DocScrutinizerhah, ircd7 upgrade
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15:47.01cityLightsall done now
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16:37.01javispedrois going to say that this ( http://nokiatune.audiodraft.com/ ) should win worst idea of the year award
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16:45.20GeneralAntillesjavispedro, Nokia Ninjas and black helicopters incoming.
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16:47.22javispedroGeneralAntilles, but c'mon, just hear any of them
16:47.30javispedrodoes anyone really envision any of them as your phone's bootup / ring tune
16:47.42javispedrowould run away if my phone were to make such noise
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16:48.15javispedro(maybe it's beause I'm shorting per facebook votes...)
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16:51.12MohammadAGjavispedro, email this guy and tell him to join in http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=7609500&q=hi&newref=1 :P
16:51.16fralswow that page did not have a volume control
16:51.23fralsand jesus christ top one is bad
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16:54.47javispedroeither way, the idea is bad in concept even, not only execution -- if you let one of the "epic" ones win, you alienate half of nokia's userbase. Choose the "jazz" one, and you alienate the other half.  
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16:55.24MohammadAGI'd say include it in the phone but don't make it default
16:55.30MohammadAGthe N950 one is pretty good
16:55.43MohammadAGgotta love how youtubers think it's a sea ray
16:55.54MohammadAGit looks like an N9, it's curved, and it swipes into 2011
16:56.16javispedronot _my_ youtubers, which usually PM me "$700. Sell or not?"
16:56.28net-splitn950 hw is hilarious
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16:58.47MohammadAGjavispedro, tell them to send the money first
16:59.52MohammadAGqole was here?!
17:00.05javispedroMohammadAG: same thought =)
17:01.22MohammadAGheh
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17:26.07dRbiGanyone figured out a way to tether n900 with win xp over bluetooth _without_ pc suite or other *crap*?
17:28.21jacekowskiyeah
17:28.26jacekowskilike any other phone
17:32.02dRbiGi vageuely remember than when i was setting up this on my palm iii it involved some magic numbers the sort of *99** etc etc
17:32.05dRbiGhmm
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17:50.11dRbiGgot it :)
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21:53.42eichi_N900hello. I want to dev a slamm application. At the moment, i think python with gtk is the easiest and pyside the best I can use. What do you think about that? What should I use?
21:53.57eichi_N900slamm = small
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22:12.05newbie007hi, can anyone tell me the status of hildon desktop, can I install this on a intel chipset? What about arm7?
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22:31.10Sicelonewbie007: try Cordia project :/ i don't have more details beyond that
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22:40.38eichi_N900No one can give me an answer?
22:45.19javispedroeichi_N900: which devices you want to target?
22:45.37javispedroeichi_N900: and, you have previous experience with either of two? (pygtk or pyside)
22:47.20eichi_N900For n900. I did a little with python, gtk and holdon objects. But want to choose the right framework now, before my first big development
22:48.22eichi_N900i also did some c++ with qt on desktop, but want to try python, because i dont need sdk stuff
22:51.21eichi_N900i like the idea to develop on mobile device directly. With pygtkeditor for example
22:57.10javispedropygtk/pymaemo still might work better on the N900
22:57.56eichi_N900Ok then i will use this now. Also it should be the simple and fast way ;) thanks
22:58.07javispedrobut if you ever plan to get it on the N950/N9 then you might have to redo it
22:58.27eichi_N900yeah i know
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23:41.18thansenis there a specific channel I can go to for ovi maps questions? using the js api...
23:43.11SpeedEvilIsn't the aPI new in harmattan?
23:43.18SpeedEvilIf so - #harmattan
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