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| 00:47.40 | pronto | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbDXDT7Ykzg&feature=share Virtual lap of the new Baltimore Grand Prix Circuit |
| 00:52.10 | GeneralAntilles | IndyCar is so boring. |
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| 03:26.52 | newbie007 | hi, does anyone know a way to launch an image from a command line? (I'm using the Desktop Execution Widget to get quick access to a few movies and hopefully images) |
| 03:28.29 | newbie007 | I was hoping for "image-viewer /home/myImage.jpg" |
| 03:33.24 | newbie007 | found it... there is ImageMagick's display, or perhaps /usr/bin/dbus-send --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.image_viewer /com/nokia/image_viewer com.nokia.image_viewer.mime_open string:file:///file1 |
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| 03:50.58 | newbie007 | youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRZ0ZUQU-3U |
| 03:51.01 | newbie007 | oops |
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| 04:13.54 | Macer | damnit |
| 04:14.32 | Macer | i had to order a new port and am gping to ship this n900 to a friend in cali to put it on |
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| 04:55.34 | xkr47 | hi! |
| 04:55.52 | xkr47 | in order to transfer everything on a n900 from one device to another, what would be good to back up except |
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| 05:01.06 | robbiethe1st | Which is a great benefit for scripting. |
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| 05:07.57 | cehteh | robbiethe1st: answered to xkr47 |
| 05:08.04 | cehteh | [06:55] <xkr47> in order to transfer everything on a n900 from one device to another, what would be good to back up except |
| 05:08.04 | cehteh | [06:56] <xkr47> a) all files |
| 05:08.19 | cehteh | .. i guess the rest of his list is uninteresting by that now :( |
| 05:14.20 | joga | how would a bare metal recovery work with the n900? |
| 05:14.27 | joga | (ie. can it be done by an end user) |
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| 05:21.13 | dm8tbr | joga: it's called cold flashing, yes |
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| 05:52.43 | xkr47 | cehteh, yeah but I'm not sure I could for example just sync all files to the new device.. and I'm not sure I can get a package list out of some debian binary files to know what to install in the new device |
| 05:53.06 | cehteh | dpkg --get-selections |
| 05:53.27 | cehteh | (and --set-selections) |
| 05:53.46 | cehteh | the buildin backup and fapman support that too |
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| 07:22.14 | DocScrutinizer | xkr47: a backupmenu image :-D |
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| 07:24.04 | DocScrutinizer | joga: real bare metal? out of luck you are, probably. CAL restore you must, but not having any you do |
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| 07:25.44 | DocScrutinizer | joga: coldflash NOLO (if that's reall baer metal, otherwise not needed), then flash rootfs and eMMC, then install backupmenu, then restore backupmenu images |
| 07:26.11 | DocScrutinizer | s/reall baer/realy bare/ |
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| 07:34.45 | joga | DocScrutinizer, sounds like a hurdle :) |
| 07:35.05 | xkr47 | DocScrutinizer, what? :) |
| 07:35.11 | xkr47 | cehteh, thx |
| 07:35.26 | xkr47 | cehteh, fapman ? |
| 07:35.28 | xkr47 | ah ok |
| 07:35.34 | xkr47 | some 3rd party |
| 07:35.40 | DocScrutinizer | check out backupmenu |
| 07:35.55 | DocScrutinizer | only way to do proper "disk images" |
| 07:36.44 | DocScrutinizer | funny enough this is the answer to both of you, xkr47 and joga |
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| 07:37.11 | xkr47 | hehe |
| 07:37.45 | DocScrutinizer | and you *might* wnat to search for a tmo thread "what is CAL" |
| 07:39.14 | DocScrutinizer | in short: the "config" partition on NAND that can't get backed up on N900 (unless robbiethe1st and me come up with a nifty solution a bit later) and rumour has it you're busted when you nuke it... So no "bare metal recovery" |
| 07:40.18 | DocScrutinizer | robbiethe1st: check out nandread/nandwrite also, maybe they are even nicer than mtd_debug |
| 07:40.54 | DocScrutinizer | come with mtd-tools pkg I guess |
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| 07:44.57 | robbiethe1st | Do note I'm not using either |
| 07:45.16 | robbiethe1st | But yea, nandwrite'd be what I'd use for flashable images if I put them |
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| 08:50.16 | RST38h | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20100779-64/meego-os-fading-fast-intel-says-its-still-committed/ |
| 08:50.38 | flux | are there any meego products out yet, btw? |
| 08:53.08 | jacekowski | no |
| 08:53.13 | jacekowski | and there won't be any |
| 08:53.34 | flux | so n9 won't count? |
| 08:54.09 | jacekowski | n9 has harmattan |
| 08:54.13 | jacekowski | not meego |
| 08:54.43 | kerio | wait, is the n9 going to be out *somewhere* at least? |
| 08:55.14 | jacekowski | dunno |
| 08:55.40 | nid0 | ofc |
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| 09:16.16 | crashanddie | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20100779-64/meego-os-fading-fast-intel-says-its-still-committed/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 |
| 09:16.31 | RST38h | Yea yea |
| 09:16.37 | RST38h | Not news though |
| 09:16.37 | chem|st | flux: some "pad" is on it's way... but that's about it |
| 09:23.11 | mece | WeTab is a meego product. |
| 09:24.27 | RST38h | Does it use Meego UX? |
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| 09:25.56 | mece | RST38h, no |
| 09:26.02 | mece | but meego-core |
| 09:26.16 | mece | isn't meego-ux just a reference ux? |
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| 10:48.50 | DocScrutinizer | robbiethe1st: for doing backups of CAL you'd want to use nandread/nandwrite nevertheless |
| 10:49.04 | DocScrutinizer | as well as for kernel backups |
| 10:49.40 | DocScrutinizer | would augment backupmenu to a *complete* backup tool |
| 10:50.20 | DocScrutinizer | that's really capable to completely restore a device from a backup (and only from that backup) |
| 10:52.14 | DocScrutinizer | while now you're screwed if you want to rollback to previous kernel version and you don't have a install package for that old kernel |
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| 10:52.38 | DocScrutinizer | even more same rationale applies to CAL that's not backup'able at all right now |
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| 10:53.06 | DocScrutinizer | err not restorable |
| 10:54.27 | jacekowski | phoenix has cal editor |
| 10:55.08 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, but that requires a) closed non-available software, b) a PC, c) a dongle (usually) |
| 10:55.56 | DocScrutinizer | while nandread&nandwrite could do a backup and restore of CAL *on device* |
| 10:56.47 | DocScrutinizer | it'd be a worthwhile project to RE the protocol between phoenix and NOLO though |
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| 10:58.02 | DocScrutinizer | robbiethe1st: btw console only gave me a black unresponsive screen in backupmenu |
| 10:58.49 | DocScrutinizer | dunno, the main menu worked nice, so nfc why console doesn'T work on stock kernel |
| 10:59.56 | DocScrutinizer | another funny effect is when screen backlight goes from rather dim to full brightness when connecting charger |
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| 11:00.38 | DocScrutinizer | I know there's a charging script, but never knew it's "messing" with screen brightness |
| 11:02.16 | RST38h | Meanwhile: Ohio man cuffed for shagging inflatable pool raft |
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| 11:03.38 | RST38h | was suspicious about Ohio since he heard two American girls on the metro chatting about how they escaped Ohio for Moscow to work in some weird Christian non-profit |
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| 11:05.19 | kerio | RST38h: lol |
| 11:05.27 | `0660 | :) |
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| 11:47.23 | robbiethe1st | DocScrutinizer, Yes. No kernel FB module = no terminal(well, it's there but invisible, apparently). And dim -> bright, yea. it's a feature; that way you know it's charging(or not) |
| 11:47.49 | robbiethe1st | dim is because people want to save power, but on charger, it should be bright(what's the harm?) |
| 11:47.50 | DocScrutinizer | :-D |
| 11:49.11 | khertan | what a Kernel FaceBook module ? |
| 11:49.12 | khertan | :) |
| 11:51.28 | RST38h | Kernel AdSense module, rather |
| 11:51.36 | RST38h | with its own tcp/ip stack |
| 11:53.10 | psycho_oreos | framebuffer |
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| 12:08.16 | eichi | is there a sms sending problem with the latest power-kernel? |
| 12:08.34 | eichi | Or is my sql database only to full |
| 12:08.41 | eichi | are there some problems known? |
| 12:10.53 | psycho_oreos | sms sending with pk48 wfm |
| 12:11.36 | kevin_b | Hey guys, is there any hack |
| 12:11.52 | kevin_b | for disabling that mmc magnet watcher? |
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| 12:14.08 | DocScrutinizer | patch ke-recv, or patch kernel |
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| 13:13.24 | RST38h | Meanwhile: Baidu has forked Android, launching a mobile OS at its annual shindig which also saw the Chinese search outfit slotting web apps into its home page to go with its Chrome-alike browser. |
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| 14:25.15 | RST38h | Meanwhile: Samsung CEO Choi Gee Sung told a group of reporters at IFA that the company would "never" pursue a webOS deal, and bemoaned the trend of "acquiring an operating system." |
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| 15:39.58 | kevin_b | How can I find in which package icd/osso-ic-dbus.h is? |
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| 15:42.10 | ruskie | dpkg --help |
| 15:42.28 | kevin_b | thanks |
| 15:42.38 | kevin_b | for the pointer ;) |
| 15:42.48 | ruskie | I think it might be -S |
| 15:43.00 | ruskie | but not sure |
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| 15:43.11 | kevin_b | u right ;) |
| 15:45.19 | kevin_b | though dpkg cannot find it |
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| 15:45.34 | kevin_b | anyone heard of a <icd/osso-ic-dbus.h> |
| 15:45.53 | ruskie | that's probably in a -dev pkg |
| 15:45.56 | ruskie | not on the device |
| 15:46.49 | kevin_b | so why dpkg -S cannot find it |
| 15:47.28 | ruskie | iirc it only looks through installed pkgs |
| 15:47.34 | ruskie | maybe check apt-cache or something |
| 15:47.50 | psycho_oreos | and the device wouldn't provide sources normally :p |
| 15:48.27 | kevin_b | hoo, I see apt-cache is what I need |
| 15:48.46 | kevin_b | sdk image on device :) |
| 15:49.06 | kevin_b | I need a hand-warmer for next winter |
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| 15:50.30 | kevin_b | Thanks a lot |
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| 16:01.50 | Shapeshifter | well this is odd. lost my pen |
| 16:01.59 | Shapeshifter | i wonder where it's at |
| 16:03.03 | Shapeshifter | psycho_oreos: you pinged me like 1 week ago? |
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| 16:05.04 | psycho_oreos | Shapeshifter, yeah I did, though Iãused a workaround instead.. now that leaves a suggestion for alarmed |
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| 18:49.33 | timeless | kicks the n900 Address Book |
| 18:50.31 | timeless | it's giving me "Can't perform operation. Internal error" when i try to update a contact |
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| 19:49.15 | timeless | wow |
| 19:49.21 | timeless | people still touch maemo bugzilla? |
| 19:50.14 | ruskie | hehe |
| 19:51.09 | timeless | sighs |
| 19:51.14 | timeless | "New contact" is hanging |
| 19:51.28 | timeless | and i can't make a phone call, because the phone app is what triggered the "new contact" |
| 19:51.52 | timeless | this is an example of how using libraries instead of out of process api calls results in really crappy end user behavior |
| 19:52.21 | timeless | -- why should my phone be stuck just because some crappy library can't manage its address book correctly? -- |
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| 19:55.08 | lcuk | timeless, amusingly, qgil made some meego bugs there |
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| 20:31.04 | ShadowJK | timeless, if everything is eventually hanging, you might have stumbled upon the all-IO-hangs kernel bug |
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| 20:31.33 | timeless | ham is stuck too.. |
| 20:32.21 | timeless | top claims that ham is using cpu time |
| 20:32.31 | ShadowJK | kernel isn't doing anything with emmc anymore, everything that accesses it, either to swapin/swapout, or page in parts of theme,locale,icons, or indeed an executable (or repo data as is the case with ham) will hang |
| 20:32.35 | timeless | and rtcom-call-ui appears a bit |
| 20:33.18 | ShadowJK | oh, I guess IO is still working if you were able to launch xterm :-) |
| 20:33.43 | timeless | well, i had an xterm already |
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| 20:33.49 | timeless | not sure of your definition of "launch" |
| 20:34.07 | timeless | and i dunno if top is part of busybox and thus not actually a "launch" either |
| 20:34.15 | ShadowJK | something funny happened to me today. HAM was saying "One or more catalogs failed to update", I tapped away that, and then it tried to update again. Repeat indefinitely :-) |
| 20:34.27 | ShadowJK | it's busybox and stored on nand |
| 20:34.27 | timeless | i've hit that |
| 20:34.43 | ShadowJK | some mozilla repo I had for fennec 404d |
| 20:34.49 | timeless | yeah |
| 20:36.16 | ShadowJK | "ps aux | grep D", if there's stuff repeatedly stuck with "D" in the "STAT" column you're basically fucked and need a reboot to recover |
| 20:36.43 | ShadowJK | ham probably doesn't count |
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| 20:38.26 | ShadowJK | or anything that actually uses cpu in top |
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| 20:40.39 | SpeedEvil | ShadowJK: Or a strategic kill |
| 20:43.12 | timeless | [mmcqd] |
| 20:43.23 | timeless | [pdflush] |
| 20:43.29 | timeless | lzop |
| 20:43.36 | timeless | apt-worker |
| 20:43.50 | timeless | wonders what lzop was trying to do |
| 20:43.53 | nox- | maybe its just swapping too much? |
| 20:44.30 | timeless | sure, but what's it for? |
| 20:46.27 | ShadowJK | there's an lzop compression program |
| 20:46.34 | ShadowJK | SpeedEvil, doesn't work |
| 20:46.51 | timeless | yeah, you can't kill things stuck in kernel land |
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| 20:49.40 | ShadowJK | if ham/apt-worker is still showing CPU time it's not stuck |
| 20:49.56 | ShadowJK | contacts probably goes crazy if diskspace is low, too |
| 20:50.30 | timeless | ~40mb avail on rootfs |
| 20:50.43 | SpeedEvil | ShadowJK: Oh - I missed that bit. |
| 20:50.44 | timeless | >1000mb on /home |
| 20:50.54 | timeless | >26gb on MyDocs |
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| 21:04.41 | SpeedEvil | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHIYNc2nd4w&feature=related Ringtone cuteporn. |
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