| 00:02.14 | Sicelo | my gsm operator has high data charges compared to telco, which offers cdma modems. i know N900 can't power them directly, but a even with a hub, it would just appear as a cd to the N900 |
| 00:03.30 | Sicelo | s/a even with a/even with a powered/ |
| 00:04.02 | cehteh | yes some do that, first disk with drivers and then turn into a modem with some swithc |
| 00:04.04 | cehteh | dunno how |
| 00:04.24 | nox- | Sicelo, try an eject command, or if that doesnt help look for (iirc) usb-modeswitch |
| 00:04.44 | nox- | (no idea if those are ported yet tho...) |
| 00:05.05 | Sicelo | eject alone never works. and usb-modeswitch is what i'm crying for ;) |
| 00:06.35 | cehteh | open("/dev/sr0", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 3 |
| 00:06.35 | cehteh | ioctl(3, CDROMEJECT, 0xf1e940) = 0 |
| 00:06.46 | cehteh | hehe port it over |
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| 00:07.15 | cehteh | i have no idea what that does .. ioctl? |
| 00:08.41 | Sicelo | if i was a programmer, yes. i actually don't think it does much.. basically, aiui, there's a flip-lop in the device which must be flipped over. usb-modeswitch is able to send the right string to achieve that |
| 00:09.52 | Sicelo | what is the download size for the sdk? |
| 00:12.19 | nox- | there is an eject command on most linuxen that i think does just that |
| 00:12.28 | nox- | (send CDROMEJECT) |
| 00:13.30 | Sicelo | ejecting is not enough. the flip-flop must be flipped over as well. |
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| 00:13.48 | nox- | yeah depends on the modem |
| 00:14.00 | Sicelo | prolly |
| 00:14.04 | nox- | hence, usb-modeswitch |
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| 00:35.20 | DocScrutinizer | Sicelo: eject alone works for e.g. my USB 3G stick |
| 00:35.57 | Sicelo | ow. means zte is trash :( |
| 00:36.14 | Sicelo | ac2766 is my modela |
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| 00:37.33 | DocScrutinizer | well, usb-modeswitch should be simple to compile for maemo |
| 00:40.08 | DocScrutinizer | notices he's got not notifications about new releases of usb-modeswitch from original author for so long, he actually forgot about the whle thing |
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| 00:41.17 | Sicelo | :) |
| 00:41.39 | Sicelo | i also don't think much would be involved compiling it |
| 00:41.42 | DocScrutinizer | USB_ModeSwitch Version 1.1.6 (last bulk mail) from: usb_admin@draisberghof.de 2010-12-29 19:25 |
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| 00:42.58 | Sicelo | what's the download size for the sdk? |
| 00:43.28 | DocScrutinizer | err, scratchbox? some few GB |
| 00:45.40 | Sicelo | ok. will take me 2-e to download :P |
| 00:45.59 | Sicelo | s/2-e/2-3/ |
| 00:46.08 | Sicelo | *days |
| 00:48.09 | DocScrutinizer | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=204582&postcount=4 |
| 00:48.12 | DocScrutinizer | HTH |
| 00:49.41 | Sicelo | omg O_O |
| 00:49.59 | Sicelo | thanks \0/ will check that out |
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| 00:50.59 | ShadowJK | NIN101, pong? |
| 00:51.33 | NIN101 | ShadowJK: Your script, in meegocharge.tar, is it actually under some licence or are we free to use it for in our own projects? |
| 00:52.39 | ShadowJK | free to use |
| 00:53.35 | NIN101 | ok :-). thx. |
| 00:54.02 | ShadowJK | about 5% of it is original DocScrutinizer code, though i've rewritten things so many times anyway.. |
| 00:54.15 | DocScrutinizer | meh |
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| 07:16.32 | cityLights | is it true? has nokia development being compromised? |
| 07:18.49 | joga | ? |
| 07:19.55 | ruskie | ? |
| 07:20.36 | RST38h | Compromised by whom? |
| 07:20.41 | sandst1 | cityLights: so it seems http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Discussion/ |
| 07:21.01 | RST38h | Ah that one, it is a fishing attack |
| 07:21.22 | RST38h | Do not click on that email |
| 07:22.35 | ab | cityLights, it is not a Nokia development but rather Nokia's web site for developers. Feel the difference. |
| 07:23.06 | cityLights | right |
| 07:23.15 | RST38h | Moo, ab |
| 07:23.23 | ab | RST38h, beeh |
| 07:23.32 | cityLights | I got a relevent question |
| 07:23.44 | cityLights | ever since the power kernel update |
| 07:24.00 | RST38h | Whoever broke into that SQL DB is sending out emails with exactly the same text from Nokia's site and an offer to click on a link that will do bad things to your computer. |
| 07:24.02 | cityLights | which didnt work ok, with me, and I had to flash |
| 07:24.48 | cityLights | but now I cant use mobilehotspot |
| 07:24.58 | cityLights | a modules is missing |
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| 07:25.17 | cityLights | nf_counterback |
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| 07:25.24 | cityLights | which package owns it? |
| 07:26.12 | radiofree | I just received that e-mail |
| 07:26.30 | radiofree | who would click a link wl4.peer360..../loadofcrap anyway? |
| 07:27.40 | RST38h | Some idiot always will. |
| 07:27.41 | cityLights | how to ask all packages dependednt of mobilehostspot? |
| 07:29.22 | Sicelo | u probably haven't enabled all the repos u had before |
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| 07:31.20 | cityLights | apt-cache show mobile hotspot |
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| 07:40.20 | edheldil | apt-cache rdepends mobilehostspot? |
| 07:40.30 | edheldil | dunno if it works on maemo |
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| 12:27.20 | x29a | anybody successfully working with qt mobility 1.2 on the n900? |
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| 12:50.13 | x29a | which scratchbox should i go with? is version2 fine for fremantle/n900? |
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| 12:52.40 | x29a | ah geez, why is there no clear instruction |
| 12:52.44 | DocScrutinizer | important notice from Nokia to all users of developer.nokia.com -> http://wl4.peer360.com/b/56X1kFsJFLMffLIHk63Y/main.asp?hl=110921339&r=CBCEBBJ |
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| 12:57.27 | DocScrutinizer | radiofree: iirc Nokia used peer360 for his developer newsletter for several years. The page linked by the URL looks clean |
| 12:57.41 | radiofree | DocScrutinizer: hah, alright :) |
| 12:59.06 | DocScrutinizer | radiofree: of course I suggest to be as careful when visiting that page as you should be with any other unknown webpage you visit |
| 13:00.33 | chem|st | 360 is all that research stuff too afair |
| 13:01.29 | SpeedEvil | Indeed. |
| 13:01.44 | SpeedEvil | I'm _really_ surprised the n900 user experience survey is still ongoing. |
| 13:01.47 | DocScrutinizer | >>© Nokia 2011 ⢠A Product of Horizon Marketing Group ⢠Powered by Peer360°<< |
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| 13:02.51 | radiofree | the url looks pretty shady to me |
| 13:03.06 | radiofree | there's no way I'd ever click that in an e-mail |
| 13:04.58 | x29a | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation seems to use scratchbox1, http://maemo-sdk.garage.maemo.org/install.html seems to be based on scratchbox2, which is the way to go? im so confused :( |
| 13:05.33 | x29a | host is ubuntu lucid (10.4) |
| 13:09.24 | RST38h | Ex-Board Member Says HP Is Committing 'Corporate Suicide' |
| 13:09.30 | DocScrutinizer | I think the scratchbox comes with the SDK install, no? |
| 13:09.37 | RST38h | What is it with corporations committing suicide nowadays? |
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| 13:10.04 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: spreading desease |
| 13:10.05 | SpeedEvil | Apple has an incentive program. |
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| 13:10.19 | Stskeeps | RST38h: the hippies of the 1969 generation coming out of their disguises as businessmen to bring down the world of business |
| 13:10.19 | SpeedEvil | Take down your company, and we pay you $100m under the table. |
| 13:10.42 | RST38h | Stskeeps: I can almost believe it |
| 13:10.43 | DocScrutinizer | duh, wasn't that the M$-way? |
| 13:10.57 | RST38h | The apparent new focus on going head-to-head with SAP (Apotheker's former employer) and Oracle (Hurd's new employer) in enterprise software while ignoring the company's traditional strengths, said a software exec, is 'as if Alan Mulally left Boeing to join Ford as CEO, and announced six months later that Ford would be making airplanes.' |
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| 13:13.38 | DocScrutinizer | you know why $random-ethnic-group hasn't achieved to have a man in orbit yet? Because Ford doesn't build rockets |
| 13:13.49 | DocScrutinizer | (old silly joke) |
| 13:14.17 | RST38h | too deep, the meaning has been lost in time, I guess... |
| 13:15.35 | DocScrutinizer | only funny when random-ethnic-group is notorious to prefer Ford for their holiday trips. Replace Ford by any car brand that applies to your local situation |
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| 13:17.35 | DocScrutinizer | of course this joke quite usually also isn't PC |
| 13:17.39 | x29a | docscrutinizer: yes, but there seem to be multiple "final sdk" versions. one based on sb1 the other on sb2, then there is a garage repo for one, there are different instructions, im just not sure which is the newest/most stable. unfortunately, i find this to be a big problem of the maemo dev pages. too many places for information which is almost always outdated |
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| 13:18.14 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 13:18.31 | DocScrutinizer | soory I can't help, no idea about it here either |
| 13:19.46 | DocScrutinizer | at least from mediawiki's history you could tell what date the original page as well as possible edits are |
| 13:20.50 | x29a | ok thanks for listening though. i guess ill just try all of em, one by one |
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| 13:21.11 | x29a | just seems weird, that nobody is using them or has used them for development |
| 13:21.23 | DocScrutinizer | lol - start with the higher numbers, I.E. sb2 I'd suggest ;-D |
| 13:22.25 | x29a | yep |
| 13:22.51 | RST38h | Anyone up to connecting this guy to Maemo/Meego: http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/29/e-funs-apen-a3-stylus-brings-digitized-scribbles-to-android-bl/ ? |
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| 13:39.19 | RST38h | Doc: But, shit, I have no idea what random-ethnic-group preferred Fords |
| 13:39.35 | RST38h | Doc: The British? =) |
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| 13:51.00 | DocScrutinizer | here in Germany it's been the Turkish |
| 13:51.36 | DocScrutinizer | that supposedly did |
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| 15:49.43 | GeneralAntilles | How depressing. http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/29/touchpad-port-of-cm7-in-the-works-can-barely-be-called-an-alpha/ |
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| 15:59.53 | dm8tbr | no one porting meego yet? |
| 16:00.15 | Stskeeps | snapdragon :/ |
| 16:00.25 | Stskeeps | (AFAIK) |
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| 16:14.12 | RST38h | HELO PUNKS |
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| 16:45.00 | kerio | RST38h: hostname PUNKS unknown |
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| 16:48.14 | slonopotamus | punks not dead but smell as if they were |
| 16:49.25 | slonopotamus | err, "it just smells thay way" originally |
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| 17:05.10 | RST38h | Meanwhile:http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/29/amsung_thinking_of_webos_acquisition/ |
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| 21:47.14 | nschle85 | MohammadAG: ping |
| 21:48.00 | MohammadAG | pong |
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| 21:48.17 | Creteil | hi |
| 21:48.31 | Creteil | why is it so hard to use scratchbox ? :-) |
| 21:49.07 | MohammadAG | it's just a chroot :P |
| 21:49.10 | Creteil | I'm currently working on source code, modify it whit quilt |
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| 21:50.16 | nschle85 | MohammadAG: hello I am trying to compile u-boot for N900 , tried different toolchains, all the same resukt: loading kernel ... (original maemo kernel) what can i do ? |
| 21:50.17 | Creteil | why after pushing my patch into debian patch, when it try to compile, i have this error : |
| 21:50.19 | Creteil | Applying patch class10sd_dto14_fix.diff |
| 21:50.20 | Creteil | Applying patch 01patch-2.6.28_atopcnt.diff |
| 21:50.22 | Creteil | patch: **** strip count ab is not a number |
| 21:50.23 | Creteil | Patch 01patch-2.6.28_atopcnt.diff does not apply (enforce with -f) |
| 21:50.25 | Creteil | make: *** [source-stamp] Error 1 |
| 21:50.26 | Creteil | [sbox-FREMANTLE_ARMEL: ~/tmp/Building/kernel-power/kernel-power-2.6.28] > |
| 21:50.28 | Creteil | any idea ? |
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| 21:51.54 | MohammadAG | what's the problem nschle85 ? |
| 21:53.01 | nschle85 | MohammadAG: the compiled u-boot does not boot the combined nolo kernel |
| 21:53.26 | nschle85 | last message: starting kernel ... |
| 21:54.11 | MohammadAG | is it 2.6.28-omap1 |
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| 21:54.58 | nschle85 | MohammadAG: from this package: kernel_2.6.28-20103103+0m5_armel.deb |
| 21:55.30 | nschle85 | MohammadAG: how do you build the u-boot image ? |
| 21:57.44 | DocScrutinizer | for those claiming maemo is dead: http://maemo.org/packages/repository/latest/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/all/ |
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| 22:11.06 | Creteil | No idea about my problem ? |
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| 22:15.55 | Creteil | Applying patch 01patch-2.6.28_atopcnt.diff |
| 22:15.56 | Creteil | patch: **** strip count ab is not a number |
| 22:15.58 | Creteil | Patch 01patch-2.6.28_atopcnt.diff does not apply (enforce with -f) |
| 22:16.00 | Creteil | make: *** [source-stamp] Error 1 |
| 22:16.01 | Creteil | Any idea ? |
| 22:16.16 | Creteil | damn !!! bad channel :-( sorry |
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| 22:26.53 | DocScrutinizer | you've not seen bad channels yet |
| 22:27.26 | DocScrutinizer | ~question |
| 22:27.26 | infobot | well, question is If you have a question and want people to give useful answers, make sure you have read this first: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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| 22:29.55 | DocScrutinizer | but yeah, shame on all those 80% of channel users sitting in front of their PC somewhere in Europe, in a TZ where it's 23:30, or more like 00:30 or 01:30, and whatching for 25(!!!) minutes without answering your most urgent question |
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| 22:30.30 | DocScrutinizer | you for sure made some friends, pal |
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| 22:57.06 | peetah | DocScrutinizer: don't know if you answer was sarcastic or not, but in his defense, and in order to say something useless before bed time, the use of "bad" for "wrong" is a common mistake for native french speakers as he seems to be |
| 22:58.57 | peetah | s/you/your/ |
| 23:00.02 | DocScrutinizer | I don't think he confused bad with wrong |
| 23:00.52 | DocScrutinizer | ~status |
| 23:00.52 | infobot | Since Mon Aug 15 18:07:02 2011, there have been 57 modifications, 678 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 357 commands. I have been awake for 14d 4h 53m 50s this session, and currently reference 118109 factoids. I'm using about 22372 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 3888.17/113.01 child 0/0 |
| 23:00.53 | x29a | docscrutinizer: yay, scummvw within the latest packages ;) |
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| 23:41.15 | Primes | Hi I appear to have filled the root filesystem on my N900 Maemo, can anyone suggest some actions? |
| 23:45.59 | NIN101 | one reason could be that you have installed many applications, so get rid of those you actually don't need. |
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