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| 02:46.41 | RiD | is it just me or those recatchas are getting harder and harder? One day they will be impossible to recognize by a human, but bots will still manage to recognize them... |
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| 03:50.35 | iluminator101 | is there an app that when you take a pic, it stamps geolocation on it? |
| 03:51.27 | iluminator101 | i mean is there an app that when you take a pic stamps the coordinates on it? |
| 03:53.45 | archl | iluminator101: I think it have a tag,not stamp,but why you want stamp? its hard to remove easier to add. |
| 03:54.54 | iluminator101 | archl, tag i meant when you take the pic it automatically adds the tag |
| 03:55.42 | archl | iluminator101: its a feature in both camera and blessn900 application |
| 03:55.56 | archl | iluminator101: you need to enable it |
| 03:56.17 | iluminator101 | camera is the default app that comes with maemo right? |
| 03:57.03 | archl | right |
| 03:57.18 | archl | it will enable GPS |
| 03:57.41 | archl | although catch satellite need sometime |
| 03:58.56 | iluminator101 | cool thanks archl |
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| 06:36.41 | crashanddie | DocScrutinizer: he's coming down for some of my friends' graduation |
| 06:36.59 | crashanddie | Well, friends and one of my future employees, actually |
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| 13:02.36 | Sicelo | just can't get long-tap right |
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| 13:46.55 | DocScrutinizer | Sicelo: yeah, longtap is difficult, I always use the scheme to tap+hold, then "drag+drop" to the according item in popup-menu |
| 13:47.23 | DocScrutinizer | long-tap to open menu, then click on menu item, seems virtually impossible |
| 13:47.45 | Sicelo | yeah. i thought maybe someone figured out a better way |
| 13:48.39 | ShadowJK | I think opera's longtap is only one that doesn't need drag-drop |
| 13:49.28 | DocScrutinizer | the key for succeeding long-tap is fast lift-off of the touching object |
| 13:50.07 | joga | what's longtap? |
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| 13:50.23 | DocScrutinizer | otherwise bouncing touchscreen creates a bogus click on "button-up" |
| 13:50.35 | DocScrutinizer | joga: click-and-hold |
| 13:50.45 | joga | oh... |
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| 13:51.03 | DocScrutinizer | plus lift-off of "your finger" == long-tap |
| 13:51.08 | joga | I never found anything wrong with it except that when I hold my finger there it's blocking the menu item |
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| 13:51.25 | joga | hmm, ok... I thought the menu would disappear when I lift the finger :) |
| 13:51.41 | DocScrutinizer | more often than not the menu closes as soon as you lift off your finger |
| 13:51.54 | DocScrutinizer | it's not supposed to do that |
| 13:52.17 | joga | speaking of tricky tricks...clicking an url keypad closed is pretty hard |
| 13:52.25 | DocScrutinizer | caused by a bogus click event during lift-off |
| 13:52.32 | joga | with fingers at least.. |
| 13:53.07 | joga | DocScrutinizer, ok...haven't payed much attention to such myself, fortunately it's pretty rare that I have to bring up a context menu |
| 13:53.11 | DocScrutinizer | depends where and how to click |
| 13:53.15 | joga | *paid |
| 13:53.17 | joga | :) |
| 13:53.53 | DocScrutinizer | in browser a zoom-in can help much to make clicking URLs more easy |
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| 13:54.27 | joga | that's true |
| 13:54.28 | DocScrutinizer | using your fingernail is another benefit of resistive touchscreen that won't work on N9's c-ts |
| 13:54.41 | joga | often have to do it especially when on some transport |
| 13:55.05 | joga | I always use my finger nail really, I kinda hit them a bit backwards I guess |
| 13:55.38 | DocScrutinizer | maybe calibrating the sceen can help? |
| 13:55.55 | DocScrutinizer | (have to admit I *never* done it on N900) |
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| 13:56.35 | DocScrutinizer | btw xchat is severely off for touchpoint vs screen display content |
| 13:56.49 | DocScrutinizer | obviously some calculation/algo bug |
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| 13:58.40 | DocScrutinizer | I got used to it and compensate for it, so I never came to file a bug against it |
| 13:58.43 | DocScrutinizer | :-) |
| 13:59.00 | ShadowJK | i never noticed that |
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| 13:59.53 | DocScrutinizer | it's fairly noticable when you try to grab the scrollbar. Needs clicking quite some mm inside the textbox |
| 14:00.28 | DocScrutinizer | clicking *on* the scrollbar handle doesn't work |
| 14:02.31 | joga | DocScrutinizer I think the problem with urls is more likely because I use a pretty small font and even a click might end up being a drag, first triggering the "copy/open" dialog but also the on-screen keyboard |
| 14:02.53 | joga | but it sometimes works inconsistently too, I dunno |
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| 14:03.27 | joga | I nearly always have the keypad open anyway, I find the device easier to hold like that |
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| 14:04.46 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: I rarely ever use scrollbar since I changed keymapping to scroll with up/down keys. So I forgot to annoy you all with my rant :-D |
| 14:06.33 | joga | yesterday I realized that I've always been doing 1) flip the locking switch to turn on display 2) open keypad for checking irc or something, but then when I close the keypad, I also have to flip the lock switch again, when instead I could simply just push the keypad up to check stuff and back in to lock the screen :) |
| 14:08.07 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, the pity is it's not possible to lock screen unconditionally on closing kbd slider (unless you do some scripting hackery) |
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| 14:09.07 | DocScrutinizer | if you did some user interaction (tapping screen, pressing a key) while device unlocked by slider-opn, then slider-close won't lock again |
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| 18:09.20 | rhn | hi |
| 18:09.59 | rhn | just started testing the GPS on my new n900 - anyone knows how to get proper HDOP values? |
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| 18:12.41 | Sicelo | hdop? |
| 18:13.04 | rhn | dilution of precision |
| 18:13.29 | rhn | they are an order of magnitude bigger than in my other units |
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| 18:15.29 | Sicelo | i don't know much about these things, unfortunately |
| 18:16.22 | Sicelo | check out Columbus and Location Test |
| 18:16.31 | Sicelo | maybe what u want is there |
| 18:16.36 | rhn | let's see |
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| 18:29.33 | SpeedEvil | rhn: I think I submitted a bug on that. |
| 18:29.41 | SpeedEvil | rhn: What software are you using? |
| 18:29.52 | SpeedEvil | rhn: is it something that generates gpxs? |
| 18:30.11 | rhn | SpeedEvil, I tried some gpx logging widget |
| 18:30.35 | SpeedEvil | yes - it has a bug |
| 18:30.42 | rhn | but AGTL and GPSRecorder show far too big values as well |
| 18:31.03 | rhn | is it a software issue? |
| 18:31.50 | rhn | does anyone know how to fix the value? some scaling perhaps? |
| 18:32.17 | SpeedEvil | You know that HDOP is unitless? |
| 18:32.26 | rhn | yup |
| 18:32.51 | rhn | still, some relationship might exist |
| 18:34.13 | rhn | SpeedEvil, can you post a link to the bug report? |
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| 18:36.32 | SpeedEvil | http://pastebin.com/4PrgafpM was mailed to marcell@maemo.org on 24/5/2010 |
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| 18:36.55 | SpeedEvil | hmm |
| 18:37.11 | SpeedEvil | I think I've actually submitted a seperate bug against something else |
| 18:37.22 | rhn | I can see my exact story in that message |
| 18:38.03 | rhn | against liblocation (or whatever it's called)? |
| 18:39.22 | SpeedEvil | I'm unsure - I think it was another logger widget that was logging HDOP but using the meters estimated error to do it - so was stupidly out |
| 18:40.41 | SpeedEvil | Possibly 'gps recorder' |
| 18:40.43 | SpeedEvil | unsure though |
| 18:40.53 | rhn | I think it's what I'm using at the moment |
| 18:41.04 | rhn | gotta look at liblocation in that case |
| 18:41.04 | SpeedEvil | try the other wisget |
| 18:41.21 | SpeedEvil | http://maemo.org/packages/view/gps-data-logger/ |
| 18:42.33 | SpeedEvil | Also - osm2go I think does it properly |
| 18:43.41 | rhn | actually I was using GPS data logger |
| 18:43.56 | rhn | so it's wrong as well |
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| 18:49.24 | rhn | does osm2go capture tracks at all? |
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| 19:13.35 | rhn | SpeedEvil, Columbus seems to return correct information, although it outputs NMEA |
| 19:14.36 | rhn | oh wait, it uses fake HDOP |
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| 19:30.08 | ajay | hey folks.. |
| 19:30.32 | ajay | just wondering if anyone knows if there are folks working on Maemo for the touchpad? |
| 19:31.12 | Sicelo | no. there aren't, and won't be. maybe MeeGo |
| 19:31.23 | ajay | just realized that after i said it, heh.. ta! |
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| 19:44.15 | Sicelo | ~meh |
| 19:44.15 | infobot | meh int. /meh/ [The Simpsons] An interjection expressing apathy, or mgeary's favorite phrase |
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| 20:12.08 | DocScrutinizer | ~dict meh |
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| 21:48.43 | smhar | I understand that it is possible now to use N900 in usb host, is there a way to connect say, a usb HD and still be able to charge N900 at the same time? |
| 21:51.15 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 21:51.22 | SpeedEvil | You need a special cale though |
| 21:51.24 | SpeedEvil | cable |
| 21:51.37 | SpeedEvil | n900 will not power 99% of USB hard disks |
| 21:51.54 | cehteh | and not charge while powering :) |
| 21:52.22 | cehteh | its told to be working with some modified usb hubs |
| 21:52.34 | cehteh | information about that is on tmo |
| 21:53.27 | cehteh | and btw i wont even try to power a hdd ... the n900 was offically not designed to run in host mode and power devices |
| 21:54.22 | cehteh | iirc it can deliver up to 250 mA or something like that, but if you blow a fuse on the mainboard you have a problem .. in case its not properly/fully electronically protected |
| 21:57.17 | smhar | I mean the N900 charging not the HD. I would keep the N900 running for a long period while connected to a usb HD powered separately. |
| 21:57.57 | cehteh | yes as i saied, thats possible with a modified powered hub |
| 21:58.31 | cehteh | maybe you can even modify the usb hdd electronics to supply power on the usb host and then connect it directly |
| 21:58.55 | cehteh | but i dont rememmber the details and how you configure the n900 for that, read tmo |
| 22:01.18 | michl | here is it: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=921203#post921203 |
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| 22:03.38 | smhar | thank you a lot |
| 22:03.47 | Gh0sty | hostmode is cool |
| 22:04.03 | Gh0sty | finally can offload my pictures from my camera to my phone as a backup :) |
| 22:06.32 | Gh0sty | nevertheless probably get a black fruit soon, so I'll just use it as an internet tablet in the end I guess ... |
| 22:06.49 | Gh0sty | even wondering if it would be possible to remove the phone parts from the firmware :) |
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| 23:54.38 | knocte | hello, I'm having an issue with the media player, I've deleted all my songs via the console when connecting it to the computer (via mass storage mode), but when I disconnect from the computer, the mediaplayer still claims to have all those songs |
| 23:54.57 | knocte | anyone know how to tell the media-player to "refresh"? |
| 23:55.01 | nid0 | youll need to wait for it to reindex |
| 23:55.25 | knocte | nid0: well, I've already waited like half hour :( |
| 23:56.31 | psycho_oreos | maybe issue: tracker-process -r |
| 23:56.58 | psycho_oreos | you'll probably need to wait even longer, as tracker-process restarts from nothing |
| 23:57.00 | knocte | psycho_oreos: what do you mean, how can I kick the tracker-process? |
| 23:57.16 | nid0 | he means runs tracker-process -r from xterm |
| 23:57.24 | nid0 | (with media player closed) |
| 23:57.36 | psycho_oreos | s/tracker-process/tracker-processes/ |
| 23:57.59 | knocte | ok, I'll try that |
| 23:58.08 | psycho_oreos | and photos closed, conversations closed, etc |
| 23:59.36 | knocte | tracker-process: not found |
| 23:59.39 | knocte | where is it? |
| 23:59.52 | psycho_oreos | tracker-processes |