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| 00:03.30 | peterbjornxz | is the mmc image solely the ext3 part |
| 00:03.35 | peterbjornxz | or how does this work |
| 00:03.36 | Hurrian | nope |
| 00:03.49 | Hurrian | it contains p1 mydocs p2 ext3 p3 swap |
| 00:04.00 | peterbjornxz | ok, then how is it only 250mb |
| 00:04.10 | Hurrian | sparse file |
| 00:04.17 | Hurrian | p2 is mostly empty |
| 00:04.31 | Hurrian | maemo ubifs moves files to p2 on first boot |
| 00:04.38 | peterbjornxz | ok, then how do i create a new one from scratch |
| 00:05.26 | Hurrian | it's hard |
| 00:05.35 | Hurrian | well, it's hard for emmc |
| 00:05.49 | Hurrian | since you dont know exactly where the partitions start and end |
| 00:06.18 | Hurrian | and loopmount doesnt work well with sparse files |
| 00:06.34 | Hurrian | just reflash device and use backupmenu to fudge around with partitions |
| 00:06.52 | Hurrian | then back it all up, and store it as a backupmenu... backup. |
| 00:07.26 | Hurrian | btw don't mess with the partition order |
| 00:07.41 | Hurrian | p1 must be fat32, p2 must be ext3, p3 must be swap |
| 00:07.51 | Hurrian | unless you changed genfstab.awk and rcS-late |
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| 00:08.22 | Hurrian | you are free to shrink all of them and make mmcblk0p4 a partition for nitdroid though |
| 00:08.33 | peterbjornxz | i dont want to install nitdroid |
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| 00:08.36 | Hurrian | k |
| 00:08.45 | peterbjornxz | i wanted to build a modified image on my dev box |
| 00:08.49 | Hurrian | ah |
| 00:08.58 | Hurrian | backupmenu would be easier to deal with |
| 00:09.19 | peterbjornxz | cause my n900 has a habit of rebooting when copying files or doing other IO/RAM intensive work |
| 00:09.24 | Hurrian | flasher is extremely cryptic, the way it sends images over the line to directly flash the device |
| 00:09.48 | Hurrian | peterbjornxz, look into improving N900's IO performance with swappolube |
| 00:10.23 | Hurrian | blame ohmd and cfs for that |
| 00:10.29 | Hurrian | especially cfs |
| 00:10.49 | peterbjornxz | so theres no simple way for modifying a mmc image on pc |
| 00:10.53 | Hurrian | yes |
| 00:11.10 | Hurrian | too bad ohmd interferes with bfs, but without ohmd the phone's processes run wild |
| 00:11.45 | peterbjornxz | but, how does the flasher determine where in the mmc image partitions start |
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| 00:17.41 | peterbjornxz | but, how does the flasher determine where in the mmc image partitions start (resending cause my internet connection is acting up) |
| 00:21.14 | Hurrian | there's a layout file |
| 00:21.29 | peterbjornxz | it doesnt contain offsets into the image |
| 00:21.32 | peterbjornxz | just sizes |
| 00:22.02 | Hurrian | iirc there's something in the image that you can edit by hand to change sizes |
| 00:22.12 | peterbjornxz | its the+ |
| 00:22.19 | peterbjornxz | layout file |
| 00:22.21 | peterbjornxz | bu |
| 00:22.22 | Hurrian | anyways, it's all cryptic to me, i never poked in maemo 5 flasher, i poked in maemo 6 flasher |
| 00:22.38 | peterbjornxz | but, from what ive seen |
| 00:22.50 | peterbjornxz | the layout file just defines the layout on-chip |
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| 00:22.59 | peterbjornxz | but says nothing about the image layout |
| 00:28.22 | peterbjornxz | but , how does maemo "6" do it |
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| 05:10.49 | Psi | do i need to install a windows driver to get the n900 to charge? |
| 05:11.38 | Psi | keeps saying there isnt enough power when i know the port can supply 500mA, so im assuming its a driver issue and it cant ask for high current mode |
| 05:12.48 | SpeedEvil | Put it in ass rage mode. |
| 05:12.53 | SpeedEvil | mass storage |
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| 05:13.19 | Psi | same thing |
| 05:13.22 | Psi | says not enough power |
| 05:13.35 | Psi | ow, now its charging |
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| 05:15.25 | Psi | anyone looking into the n900 10mW vs 100mW wifi to see if the chip can be told to run at more than 100mW ? |
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| 06:26.34 | a-saint | anyone uses cleven |
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| 07:07.53 | slonopotamus | holy crap, i have my n800 running 2.6.38 |
| 07:08.09 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 07:12.27 | gotten1 | n800 have also maemo? |
| 07:12.45 | slonopotamus | :/ |
| 07:13.23 | gotten1 | what? |
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| 07:15.44 | slonopotamus | it had |
| 07:20.00 | RST38h | slono: you..you...SYSTEM BOTHERER!!! |
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| 08:04.57 | Pali | X-Fade: ping |
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| 08:59.35 | lardman | morning |
| 08:59.42 | Itschue | morning |
| 08:59.49 | lardman | hi Itschue |
| 09:00.33 | Itschue | lardman didi you know if extended call log is the only way to view cal time duration? |
| 09:01.01 | lardman | you could probably access the db yourself directly |
| 09:01.46 | Itschue | and i can see the call time duration than in the standard call manager? |
| 09:02.19 | lardman | no |
| 09:02.29 | lardman | I thought that was what extended call log did though? |
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| 09:03.11 | Itschue | so the ext call man is the only way |
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| 09:06.18 | lardman | that I know of anyway, I've never tried it mind you |
| 09:07.18 | lardman | Qt gurus: am trying to extract a QList<QVariantList> from a QSettings object. I can use the toList() fn, which gives me a QVariantList, but then I'm missing the inner list. How should I convert it to the correct type? |
| 09:07.25 | Itschue | i only know find the way with ext call log and the triggers.txt |
| 09:08.10 | lardman | there's also the template conversion method, e.g. value<T>(), but this means I have to do value<QList<QVariantList>>() which confuses the complier |
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| 09:13.27 | fizzie | Not a Qt person, but that should at least be written as "value<QList<QVariantList> >()" to avoid confusing the compiler with >>. |
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| 09:17.59 | slonopotamus | and that is weird |
| 09:21.13 | lardman | fizzie: I'll try the space and see what it thinks, thanks |
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| 09:22.30 | fizzie | It's the "maximal munch" parsing rule, it has to treat ">>" as the shift-right token no matter how little sense it makes in the context. |
| 09:25.02 | lardman | ok that seems to have fixed that little issue, now I need to persuade QSettings that it does want to save my QList<QVariantList> elsewhere... :) |
| 09:25.12 | lardman | thanks for the tip fizzie |
| 09:26.36 | lardman | I wonder if I should just cast the whole lot to a QVariant to save and read it, then cast it back to my double list once it's out of the QSettings object |
| 09:31.05 | villager | it's one of the annoying consequences of C++ overloading < > as a type of brackets in addition to being operators... but I guess there weren't a lot of alternatives left in ascii |
| 09:32.37 | lardman | I guess a more intelligent parser might be able to work out the context, but anyway not such a big problem giving a hint in the form of a few spaces |
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| 09:38.01 | lardman | settles for using a QSettings array, to undwind one of the QLists |
| 09:38.12 | lardman | s/undwind/unwind |
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| 11:03.23 | godtrunks | hy i have a problem with my n900 |
| 11:03.31 | godtrunks | it wont start |
| 11:03.36 | godtrunks | what shou i do? |
| 11:03.41 | godtrunks | what shou di do? |
| 11:03.48 | godtrunks | what shoud i do? |
| 11:04.05 | godtrunks | my charging led is not working as well |
| 11:04.16 | godtrunks | i try tu turn on the phone |
| 11:04.21 | godtrunks | but nothing |
| 11:04.28 | godtrunks | i try to turn on the phone |
| 11:04.31 | godtrunks | but nothing |
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| 11:05.27 | godtrunks | and if i unplug the battery while is at charging the led is orange.and stay orange while is charging |
| 11:05.57 | godtrunks | any ideeas? |
| 11:06.15 | robbiethe1st | Check forums |
| 11:06.38 | godtrunks | or shoud i go with the phone at warranty |
| 11:06.48 | godtrunks | i think is a hardware problem with it |
| 11:07.03 | robbiethe1st | You'll never get a N900 back |
| 11:07.13 | robbiethe1st | They've stopped replacing them with N900s. |
| 11:07.26 | robbiethe1st | You'd get an E7 or N8, depending on how you ask |
| 11:07.28 | godtrunks | i still have warranty |
| 11:07.45 | robbiethe1st | Nokia says they don't have any more replacement N900s |
| 11:08.17 | godtrunks | but why? |
| 11:08.22 | robbiethe1st | Ask them. |
| 11:08.25 | godtrunks | i pay for n900 |
| 11:08.40 | godtrunks | not for n8 or e 7 |
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| 11:08.56 | robbiethe1st | Doesn't mean they can fix it, or have another device to replace it with. So they'll give you a comparable one, in terms of cost. |
| 11:09.34 | robbiethe1st | So you'd be better off checking forums, seeing if flashing will fix it... and if not, either trying to sell it on ebay and buy another, or getting it replaced with a 'lesser' N8, sell that... |
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| 11:09.56 | godtrunks | the phone will not enter in update mode |
| 11:10.14 | robbiethe1st | Maby the battery's dead? |
| 11:10.19 | robbiethe1st | ask on forums |
| 11:10.22 | godtrunks | no |
| 11:10.30 | godtrunks | it works fine untill last night |
| 11:10.58 | godtrunks | this morning when i take the phone from charging the phone will not turn on.. |
| 11:10.59 | robbiethe1st | So... Post a topic on the forums detailing the problem, and explaining what you've tried, exactly |
| 11:12.16 | godtrunks | is a hardware problme |
| 11:12.23 | godtrunks | is a hardware problem |
| 11:12.30 | robbiethe1st | So? I can't help you |
| 11:12.43 | robbiethe1st | Try taking it to a local repair shop? |
| 11:12.53 | godtrunks | so if i'm lucky the replace my phone with another n900 |
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| 11:13.11 | robbiethe1st | If you send it off to Nokia support, I can *guarantee* you you will not get a N900 back. |
| 11:13.16 | godtrunks | if not they will give me a brand new nokia N8 or a nokia E7? |
| 11:13.24 | robbiethe1st | Apparently |
| 11:13.35 | godtrunks | fu** |
| 11:14.08 | godtrunks | but in june the change my phone at warranty |
| 11:14.28 | robbiethe1st | Ask others who've done it recently |
| 11:14.31 | godtrunks | i was lucky then i think.. |
| 11:14.37 | robbiethe1st | Could have been, yes |
| 11:15.17 | godtrunks | k. |
| 11:15.23 | godtrunks | thx for advice |
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| 11:15.37 | godtrunks | but i think i will be lucky |
| 11:15.41 | godtrunks | for the last time |
| 11:16.04 | godtrunks | if not |
| 11:16.13 | godtrunks | what phone u recomand me? |
| 11:16.20 | godtrunks | n8 or e7? |
| 11:16.37 | robbiethe1st | I'd probably go with the N8, but you should really check Ebay and see what each is selling for |
| 11:16.57 | robbiethe1st | find the one that will sell for the most, and when you get it, sell it *brand new* for as much as possible, buy another used N900 |
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| 11:17.38 | godtrunks | oke :)) |
| 11:17.40 | godtrunks | thx |
| 11:19.37 | godtrunks | but nobody from ebay who't send items to romania |
| 11:19.38 | godtrunks | ::||| |
| 11:19.50 | godtrunks | but nobody from ebay won't send items to romania |
| 11:20.02 | godtrunks | :( |
| 11:20.02 | robbiethe1st | I'm sure some will |
| 11:20.20 | robbiethe1st | It's not on the 'shit list' like some countries are |
| 11:20.32 | godtrunks | yes i know |
| 11:20.39 | godtrunks | i have to go back to uk |
| 11:20.42 | godtrunks | :)) |
| 11:20.51 | godtrunks | to do that |
| 11:20.59 | robbiethe1st | Makes sense |
| 11:21.12 | robbiethe1st | I'd make a post on the forums first. |
| 11:21.22 | robbiethe1st | see if anyone has any ideas you can try first, just incase |
| 11:21.38 | godtrunks | i think is from the charger |
| 11:21.49 | godtrunks | overvoltage to the phone |
| 11:22.29 | robbiethe1st | No, I doubt it. The phone will handle up to 20V on the USB port |
| 11:22.30 | godtrunks | the phone wor'k perfect untill last night |
| 11:22.41 | robbiethe1st | Maby the battery fried internally? |
| 11:23.17 | godtrunks | if the batery is frief |
| 11:23.27 | godtrunks | the phone is not working? |
| 11:23.38 | godtrunks | if the batery is fried |
| 11:23.52 | robbiethe1st | Batteries *can* fail without warning |
| 11:24.09 | robbiethe1st | It's got a protection chip in there that could simply have died |
| 11:24.18 | robbiethe1st | But, first, POST A TOPIC |
| 11:24.28 | robbiethe1st | Explain everything, see if anyone else had the same problem |
| 11:24.55 | Dibblah_ | Eh? |
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| 11:25.16 | Dibblah_ | As far as I've seen, the only protection is some really tiny ESD clamping diodes. |
| 11:25.39 | Dibblah_ | ... And a fuse. |
| 11:25.39 | robbiethe1st | For the charger? No. Look at the datasheet for the charging chip |
| 11:25.52 | Dibblah_ | Doesn't matter. |
| 11:25.57 | robbiethe1st | It'll shut down charging if the input goes over ~6v, but it can handle 20V |
| 11:26.10 | Dibblah_ | The VUSB also connects to other things than the charging chip. |
| 11:26.12 | robbiethe1st | ...and I know it can. I put 12V into it at one point, and mine's still working |
| 11:26.27 | Dibblah_ | Now that is interesting. |
| 11:26.35 | godtrunks | no |
| 11:26.42 | godtrunks | is not entering even in update mode |
| 11:26.51 | godtrunks | i tryed now with another battery |
| 11:26.54 | godtrunks | but nothing |
| 11:27.06 | robbiethe1st | godtrunks: when you press the on switch, what happens? |
| 11:27.16 | robbiethe1st | Absolutely nothing, or does the screen turn on for a second? |
| 11:27.17 | godtrunks | nothing |
| 11:27.31 | robbiethe1st | Hm. Unplug it, take the battery out |
| 11:27.41 | robbiethe1st | Leave the battery out for about an hour, then try |
| 11:27.53 | godtrunks | if i leave the battery out |
| 11:28.21 | godtrunks | and the phone is pluged to the usb port to the computer the led turns on |
| 11:28.22 | godtrunks | have orange color |
| 11:28.26 | godtrunks | and stay on |
| 11:28.36 | robbiethe1st | Yes. that's the charging chip going into 'emergency charge |
| 11:28.38 | robbiethe1st | ' mode |
| 11:28.50 | robbiethe1st | Which means your charging chip's still working at least |
| 11:28.55 | godtrunks | and if i put the battery the led is still orange |
| 11:29.07 | robbiethe1st | It won't start up, though, without the battery working |
| 11:29.09 | godtrunks | but not blinking |
| 11:29.21 | robbiethe1st | Yes. That's called 'emergency charge' mode. |
| 11:29.22 | godtrunks | stay on all the time |
| 11:29.34 | robbiethe1st | It will do that for an hour or so |
| 11:29.47 | godtrunks | oke |
| 11:30.07 | godtrunks | i will leave the phone without battery one hour |
| 11:30.07 | robbiethe1st | But, that means that there may be something wrong with the battery to rest of device area |
| 11:30.24 | godtrunks | i have 2 batteryes |
| 11:30.33 | godtrunks | i will try with bouth after one hour |
| 11:30.39 | robbiethe1st | k |
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| 11:40.54 | kerio | have i already stated that i think that not having a hardware charging mode is stupid? |
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| 11:42.07 | Hurrian | hmm |
| 11:42.18 | Hurrian | kernel-module-cifs isn't working on power48 |
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| 11:52.47 | Hurrian | wait, it works, blame windows. |
| 11:52.59 | godtrunks | hurrian |
| 11:53.09 | Hurrian | yeah? |
| 11:53.22 | godtrunks | if the charging module is not working |
| 11:53.25 | godtrunks | the phone |
| 11:53.29 | godtrunks | shoud start |
| 11:53.36 | godtrunks | but my isn't start |
| 11:53.43 | Hurrian | is the battery charged? |
| 11:53.48 | godtrunks | yes |
| 11:54.07 | Hurrian | odd |
| 11:54.18 | godtrunks | i took another battery from another phone |
| 11:54.21 | Hurrian | how did you whack your TWL4030/BQ24150? |
| 11:54.54 | godtrunks | what? |
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| 11:55.30 | Hurrian | how did the charging chip break? |
| 11:55.37 | godtrunks | last night my phone worked perfecty |
| 11:55.45 | godtrunks | i leave it at charging |
| 11:55.47 | godtrunks | over night |
| 11:55.59 | godtrunks | and this morning the phone is not turning on |
| 11:56.20 | Hurrian | odd, that happens an awful lot to the n900s |
| 11:56.24 | Hurrian | anyways |
| 11:56.35 | Hurrian | tried pulling the battery for a few minutes? |
| 11:57.04 | godtrunks | yes |
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| 11:57.28 | godtrunks | they told me to leave it without battery for 1 hr |
| 11:58.09 | Hurrian | how about trying to connect it to PC usb? |
| 11:58.16 | cehteh | you saied you have 2 batteries .. same problem with both batteries? .. do you know if one was charged fopr sure? |
| 11:58.29 | godtrunks | i try to usb |
| 11:58.32 | godtrunks | but |
| 11:58.42 | godtrunks | is not entering in software update mode |
| 11:58.50 | Hurrian | cold flash then |
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| 11:59.05 | Hurrian | did the nokia logo show up? |
| 11:59.10 | cehteh | flashing with unreliable power ... looks dangerous |
| 11:59.12 | godtrunks | nothing |
| 11:59.19 | cehteh | well wont even work then |
| 11:59.32 | godtrunks | i put the phone in usb |
| 11:59.36 | godtrunks | but thonthind |
| 11:59.43 | godtrunks | but nothing |
| 11:59.54 | cehteh | usb connector is not loose? |
| 12:00.21 | godtrunks | is working perfectly |
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| 12:01.09 | Hurrian | ~cold-flashing |
| 12:01.21 | godtrunks | how? |
| 12:01.23 | Hurrian | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware/Cold_Flashing |
| 12:01.49 | godtrunks | but i lose all my data? |
| 12:01.57 | Hurrian | nope |
| 12:02.02 | Hurrian | flasher-3.5 -F image.bin --flash-only=nolo -f |
| 12:02.09 | Hurrian | --flash-only=nolo |
| 12:02.28 | godtrunks | where can i get the image? |
| 12:02.36 | godtrunks | or i use maemo flasher |
| 12:02.41 | Hurrian | image.bin = rootfs |
| 12:03.05 | godtrunks | where can i get the image |
| 12:03.09 | godtrunks | ? |
| 12:03.19 | Hurrian | ~images |
| 12:03.31 | godtrunks | fwom where? |
| 12:03.48 | Hurrian | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php |
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| 12:04.03 | Hurrian | don't tell me you haven't reflashed before |
| 12:04.41 | cehteh | btw is there a tool to generate new flash images? |
| 12:04.55 | Hurrian | fiasco-gen |
| 12:05.12 | Hurrian | it just repacks the directory structure though |
| 12:05.22 | cehteh | i should investigate that .. making an private customized image |
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| 12:05.50 | Hurrian | and i've only seen a UBIFS modification, never seen anyone modifying emmc because of the sparse file |
| 12:06.02 | Hurrian | NOTE: |
| 12:06.03 | cehteh | mhm |
| 12:06.08 | cehteh | well not urgend |
| 12:06.12 | godtrunks | oke |
| 12:06.19 | godtrunks | wicj image shoud i use? |
| 12:06.25 | godtrunks | wich image shoud i use? |
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| 12:06.46 | Hurrian | RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 12:06.51 | cehteh | its just pita since reflashing stock images break my device because of ext4 ... getting it work needs some more steps |
| 12:06.59 | Hurrian | cehteh, same here |
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| 12:07.19 | godtrunks | oke guys |
| 12:07.19 | cehteh | generating a image with pk and other things installed/configured would be nice |
| 12:07.21 | godtrunks | not |
| 12:07.24 | godtrunks | now |
| 12:07.26 | Hurrian | ext4 is really nice though |
| 12:07.33 | godtrunks | how i know wich one shoud i chose? |
| 12:07.39 | godtrunks | what image? |
| 12:07.50 | Hurrian | godtrunks, you are given a list |
| 12:07.56 | Hurrian | PR1.3 Global |
| 12:08.08 | cehteh | godtrunks: well we could tell you, but i urge you to RTFM anyways ... |
| 12:08.25 | Hurrian | hmm, wonder if we should make everyone on TMO use PR1.3 Global when reflashing |
| 12:09.00 | cehteh | prolly not, there are some reasons for localized firmware |
| 12:09.05 | Hurrian | cehteh, seen the amount of people on TMO who are unable to reflash? |
| 12:09.08 | Hurrian | it's astounding |
| 12:09.16 | cehteh | yes anD? |
| 12:09.20 | godtrunks | ok and how i make a cold flash |
| 12:09.24 | cehteh | normally reflashing is not for causual users |
| 12:09.32 | Hurrian | godtrunks, read wiki page |
| 12:09.37 | cehteh | if you dont have a clue then dont try |
| 12:09.46 | Hurrian | you actually dont even need to press U to kick it into reflash mode |
| 12:09.55 | cehteh | i gtg ..cu |
| 12:10.03 | godtrunks | is not working flash mode |
| 12:10.17 | Hurrian | @cehteh: kernel-power is rapidly reaching "needed by casuals" |
| 12:10.27 | Hurrian | because kernel-pr13 is teh suck |
| 12:10.48 | Hurrian | godtrunks, what do you mean |
| 12:11.02 | Hurrian | you need to install flasher too by the way |
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| 12:11.06 | godtrunks | if i put the usb cable and i press u |
| 12:11.14 | godtrunks | the phone is not doing nothing |
| 12:11.18 | godtrunks | iven the computer |
| 12:11.24 | Hurrian | noooooope |
| 12:11.28 | godtrunks | is something the phone is not pluget is |
| 12:11.34 | godtrunks | is something the phone is not pluget in |
| 12:11.36 | Hurrian | you hold down U, plug in the phone, then release U |
| 12:11.44 | godtrunks | yes i know |
| 12:11.48 | godtrunks | nothing happend |
| 12:11.58 | godtrunks | if i do that |
| 12:12.04 | Hurrian | try other USB ports |
| 12:12.07 | Hurrian | wait |
| 12:12.11 | godtrunks | i tried |
| 12:12.17 | Hurrian | does the phone show the nokia logo when you plug it in? |
| 12:12.18 | godtrunks | nothing happend |
| 12:12.23 | godtrunks | nothing |
| 12:12.30 | godtrunks | the led is not turning orange |
| 12:12.48 | godtrunks | if i take the battery out the orange led turns on and remain on |
| 12:12.51 | godtrunks | is not blinking |
| 12:13.01 | Hurrian | of course it doesn't, it doesnt get far enough into maemo to say ACT_DEAD |
| 12:13.02 | godtrunks | if i put the battery the led remains on |
| 12:13.08 | godtrunks | not charginf |
| 12:13.11 | Hurrian | did you try meego? |
| 12:13.21 | godtrunks | no |
| 12:13.29 | Hurrian | hmm, now this is really odd |
| 12:13.38 | godtrunks | i thing it was a overpower for the charger |
| 12:13.52 | godtrunks | from my nokia charger |
| 12:14.12 | Hurrian | the official nokia one? |
| 12:14.15 | godtrunks | because untill last night the phone works perfect |
| 12:14.19 | godtrunks | yes |
| 12:14.23 | godtrunks | official nokia one |
| 12:14.35 | godtrunks | was an electric storm |
| 12:14.42 | Hurrian | ah |
| 12:14.44 | godtrunks | i don't know |
| 12:14.58 | godtrunks | but in the morning the phone was not turning on |
| 12:15.11 | godtrunks | what shoud i do? |
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| 12:15.21 | godtrunks | is the procesir dead? |
| 12:15.26 | godtrunks | is the procesor dead? |
| 12:15.32 | godtrunks | or something? |
| 12:15.39 | godtrunks | shoud i go to warranty? |
| 12:15.51 | Hurrian | well, some part of the board is burnt, and you need to have someone poke around to check which part it is |
| 12:16.11 | Hurrian | don't need to go to warranty, you might get some POS symbian smartphone |
| 12:16.30 | Hurrian | electronics repair store would be fine |
| 12:16.44 | godtrunks | but i will lose my warranty |
| 12:16.44 | Hurrian | notes down: get voltage regulator for N900 |
| 12:17.27 | Hurrian | tell nokia care then not to replace it if they cant fix it |
| 12:17.40 | Hurrian | give it back as is, then take it to a local shop |
| 12:18.12 | godtrunks | oke |
| 12:18.28 | jiero | Do anybody use Ext4 instead of Ext3 on N900? |
| 12:18.34 | godtrunks | if not they will replace it with N8 or E7? |
| 12:18.35 | Hurrian | jiero: me! |
| 12:18.44 | Hurrian | godtrunks, it's very likely |
| 12:19.09 | godtrunks | ok.. |
| 12:19.22 | godtrunks | thx for advice |
| 12:19.46 | Hurrian | jiero, if i can get maemo 5 sdk to not break while installing, i'd push out eMMC and SD raid0 modules + tutorial ;) |
| 12:20.20 | Hurrian | it's easy to dump insmod and mdadm commands in rcS-late |
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| 12:24.02 | jiero | Hurrian: wow, how do they raid0... |
| 12:24.08 | jiero | :S |
| 12:24.15 | jiero | I want to see |
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| 12:30.15 | Dibblah | A local shop is somewhat unlikely to do board-level repairs on anything. |
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| 14:54.13 | godtrunks | hi |
| 14:54.19 | godtrunks | one hour passed |
| 14:54.40 | godtrunks | i put my battery back but the phone is still not working |
| 14:54.56 | godtrunks | i leave it more than one hour but nothink |
| 14:55.02 | godtrunks | the phone still not turning one |
| 14:55.06 | godtrunks | any ideeas? |
| 14:55.09 | e-yes | charging subsystem is crapy in n900 |
| 14:55.20 | e-yes | no idea |
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| 14:56.12 | godtrunks | ok |
| 14:56.17 | e-yes | try to swith it on, then after few seconds (when maemo starts loading) plug into wall charger |
| 14:56.37 | godtrunks | i can't |
| 14:56.44 | e-yes | fighted act_dead once in past |
| 14:56.49 | godtrunks | the phone is not turning on at all |
| 14:57.04 | godtrunks | software update is not working either |
| 14:57.24 | godtrunks | software update mode |
| 14:57.32 | godtrunks | is not working either |
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| 15:02.20 | godtrunks | any ideeas? |
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| 15:22.06 | giardia | say hello to everybody |
| 15:23.16 | giardia | somebody know how to have sound alerts in Pidgin? i tried everything |
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| 15:37.56 | whatwhat | why don't docx attachments show up in the mail program? |
| 15:38.11 | whatwhat | I don't care about opening them - I'd just like to know if an email has an attachment |
| 15:42.15 | ShadowJK | works for me |
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| 15:43.32 | Jonne | i have an issue with my jabber accounts (gmail and facebook) |
| 15:43.59 | Jonne | i changed the passwords for both, and now they won't connect any more |
| 15:44.30 | Jonne | i get 'network error' not 'authentication failed' |
| 15:44.59 | Jonne | i tried deleting the accounts, but now i can't even add them again |
| 15:45.11 | Jonne | anyone know what my issue could be? |
| 15:45.57 | Jonne | can i find log files for empathy anywhere? |
| 15:46.58 | Jonne | skype still works perfectly |
| 15:48.52 | Sicelo | giardia: Tools > Preferences > Sounds |
| 15:50.52 | Sicelo | Jonne: what do u mean 'can't even add them again'? |
| 15:51.42 | Sc0rpius | that happened to me with the Skype account |
| 15:51.49 | Jonne | well, i fill in the info, click 'sign in', and the dialog closes without signing itn |
| 15:52.02 | Sc0rpius | and I had to delete the whole .skype directory so I could add it again |
| 15:52.08 | Sc0rpius | exactly the same thing |
| 15:52.15 | Jonne | they show up as 'not signed in' |
| 15:52.20 | Sc0rpius | dialog closing without signing in the first time |
| 15:52.29 | Sc0rpius | that exactly happened to me, but with the skype account |
| 15:52.34 | Sc0rpius | because I changed the password |
| 15:52.48 | Jonne | so where are the jabber/gtalk/fb config files? |
| 15:52.53 | Sc0rpius | good question |
| 15:53.00 | Sc0rpius | in some .somedir |
| 15:53.22 | Sc0rpius | my N900 is in the other room so I can't check :P |
| 15:53.27 | Jonne | .purple is pidgin, right? |
| 15:53.31 | Sc0rpius | yes |
| 15:53.55 | Sc0rpius | btw I think pidgin is better than the conversations thing |
| 15:54.03 | Sc0rpius | I just use Skype there |
| 15:54.08 | Sc0rpius | for all my IMs need: pidgin. |
| 15:54.42 | Jonne | i just like the integration of empathy |
| 15:55.05 | Sicelo | not empathy :) |
| 15:55.09 | Jonne | don't want to run a seperate app if empathy works most of the time |
| 15:55.22 | Jonne | *telepathy |
| 15:56.04 | Jonne | i just confuse them because i use empathy on ubuntu, which uses the same libs as maemo's im thing |
| 15:57.39 | Sicelo | u should also check the advanced settings on your accounts, especially ports.. conversations will sometimes change the port for no apparent reason |
| 15:58.16 | Jonne | i guess i'll look up the exact settings for gtalk |
| 15:58.53 | Jonne | the worst thing about im issues is that you're never sure if it's really serverside or not |
| 15:59.13 | Jonne | especially facebook has issues keeping im online |
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| 16:08.42 | Jonne | hmm, google seem to have hidden the proper settings somehow |
| 16:10.28 | Sicelo | which ones Jonne ? |
| 16:11.14 | Sicelo | you can try setting stun server: talk.google.com, stun port : 3478 |
| 16:11.35 | Jonne | the general jabber settings, like the ones you just gave me :p |
| 16:12.59 | Jonne | didn't work |
| 16:13.01 | Jonne | ffs |
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| 16:18.54 | giardia | somebody know what is the right folder for pidgin default sounds? |
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| 17:07.40 | giardia | is wondering why no sound alerts in pidgin, even the options are ok. i tried also to install sound themes and even the command aplay %s but still silent. any suggenstions? maybe an issue with sound folder? |
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| 17:11.05 | Sc0rpius | are you in General profile?¿ |
| 17:12.26 | Sc0rpius | I don't really use sounds alert in pingin |
| 17:12.37 | Sicelo | thought to ask him that |
| 17:12.39 | Sc0rpius | but vibration alerts through pidgin-notify |
| 17:12.44 | Sc0rpius | that I ported to N900 :P |
| 17:13.38 | Sicelo | also, setting Method to anything other than Automatic may have an influence |
| 17:13.52 | Sicelo | \0/ Sc0rpius |
| 17:18.37 | giardia | i will try if reinstalling will solve |
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| 17:22.11 | giardia | i don't have "anything" option in Method, but command,no sounds,alsa,esd,automatic,console beep |
| 17:22.46 | Sicelo | lol :) i meant u should leave it at Automatic |
| 17:26.51 | giardia | ah, ok. yeah is in automatic. |
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| 17:27.49 | giardia | can you check if u have the default sounds in /usr/share/sounds/pidgin ? |
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| 17:29.38 | Sicelo | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.12 | giardia | thanks...i will try this folder |
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| 18:15.43 | Sc0rpius | does anyone here use dd-wrt? |
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| 18:25.53 | peterbjornxz | wrong chatroom, this is the Maemo room |
| 18:26.19 | SpeedEvil | Not quite, if you're using it with maemo. |
| 18:26.37 | peterbjornxz | ? |
| 18:26.58 | peterbjornxz | like , ddwrt router + maemo device |
| 18:27.12 | tank-man | i wear shoes while using my maemo device too |
| 18:27.55 | peterbjornxz | i REALLY need to build one of those serial lvl converters |
| 18:28.17 | peterbjornxz | i got pretty far on my custom FW but now its crashing after X gets started |
| 18:28.24 | peterbjornxz | so fbcon is useless |
| 18:32.44 | Sc0rpius | well |
| 18:32.55 | Sc0rpius | I was gonna ask if you hit a bug with the N900 using dd-wrt |
| 18:33.08 | Sc0rpius | my N900 doesn't work with power saving mode in dd-wrt but works fine with stock Linksys firmware |
| 18:33.13 | Sc0rpius | I was just wondering if anyone else hit the bug |
| 18:33.43 | sasquatch | _o/ dd-wrt-micro on siemens se505v2 as accesspoint and no problem connecting with n900 so far |
| 18:33.57 | Sc0rpius | maybe your router has a high build |
| 18:34.05 | Sc0rpius | I mean a newer build |
| 18:34.16 | sasquatch | i'll look |
| 18:34.26 | Sc0rpius | 14896 is the build you're using? |
| 18:34.27 | lardman | anyone have any experience with DBus marshalling under Qt? |
| 18:34.40 | Sc0rpius | because that one with the Linksys WRT54G2 drops the connection after a while for a N900 with power saving mode |
| 18:35.20 | sasquatch | Firmware: DD-WRT v24-sp2 (11/02/09) micro |
| 18:35.26 | Sc0rpius | build #? |
| 18:35.29 | Sc0rpius | it should say the build number |
| 18:35.48 | Sc0rpius | though jugding by the date it should be 13064 |
| 18:35.52 | sasquatch | Firmware Version |
| 18:35.54 | sasquatch | DD-WRT v24-sp2 (11/02/09) micro - build 13064M VINT Eko |
| 18:35.57 | Sc0rpius | yeah 13064 |
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| 18:36.13 | Sc0rpius | well it doesn't work for me :( |
| 18:36.15 | lardman | I'm suffering from dbus moaning that the method/slot doesn't match the signature of the method being called, apparently because it's looking inside one of the arguments (a variant list) and seeing that it contains strings |
| 18:36.19 | Sc0rpius | N900 drops the connection after a while |
| 18:36.38 | sasquatch | i had problems with n800's powersaving wifi-mode... |
| 18:36.49 | sasquatch | but none with n900 so far |
| 18:37.09 | sasquatch | maybe i switched off n900's powersaving wifi option? |
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| 18:37.12 | sasquatch | looking... |
| 18:37.17 | Sc0rpius | you'd notice the battery drain |
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| 18:37.37 | Sc0rpius | N900 with power-saving mode off it's like 3G, it'll only lasts a few hours |
| 18:38.48 | sasquatch | powersave is maximum says the GUI |
| 18:39.07 | Sc0rpius | you're so lucky :) |
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| 18:44.33 | sasquatch | but now wifi-switcher stopped working |
| 18:44.34 | sasquatch | :.\ |
| 18:45.07 | sasquatch | <giant> *sigh* </giant> |
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| 18:48.42 | sasquatch | strange... deinstall/reinstall wifi-switcher and it is fine again |
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| 19:09.55 | trumee | anybody know if TLS works with sip in N900? |
| 19:10.03 | scoobertron | is it possible to hide the icon when queen beecon snippets update. I have one which changes as I switch to the desktop, and the icon always appears for a second. I can't find the option in the gui. |
| 19:10.11 | trumee | i dont see the option of specifying a certificate. |
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| 19:14.03 | jacekowski | trumee: yes it did |
| 19:14.06 | jacekowski | trumee: you don't have to |
| 19:14.26 | jacekowski | trumee: TLS implementation in n900 has no support for client auth |
| 19:14.33 | jacekowski | trumee: and for server auth you don't need cert |
| 19:14.41 | trumee | jacekowski: i am reading this article https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Secure+Calling+Tutorial |
| 19:14.48 | jacekowski | not many implementations can do client auth |
| 19:15.15 | jacekowski | that's for server |
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| 19:15.42 | trumee | jacekowski: i have produced the ca.crt file and n900.pem files for the client |
| 19:16.05 | jacekowski | there is no need for that on client |
| 19:16.26 | trumee | jacekowski: in that article 'Blink' softclient needs to have ca.crt and malcolm.pem |
| 19:16.36 | trumee | jacekowski: so what do i need to copy over to N900? |
| 19:16.41 | jacekowski | you don't have to |
| 19:16.56 | jacekowski | it's only if client can auth itself to server using them |
| 19:17.00 | jacekowski | n900 can't do that |
| 19:17.33 | trumee | jacekowski: right. so i dont have to copy anything to N900. so what is the next step? |
| 19:17.51 | jacekowski | enable encryption in settings |
| 19:18.07 | trumee | jacekowski: You mean specify TLS in transport? |
| 19:18.12 | jacekowski | yes |
| 19:18.23 | trumee | jacekowski: ok, done |
| 19:18.30 | jacekowski | and that's all |
| 19:18.39 | jacekowski | if server supports it then it will work |
| 19:18.42 | jacekowski | if not then it won't |
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| 19:21.01 | trumee | jacekowski: nope, it doesnt register |
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| 19:23.59 | trumee | jacekowski: guess only way to get encrypted voip is using skype :( |
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| 19:45.02 | peterbjornxz | is there any N900 vm |
| 19:45.10 | peterbjornxz | like the n810 for QEMU |
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| 20:01.37 | bjv1 | anyone familiar with getting a Window for a HildonDesktop StatusMenuItem? in fremantle, |
| 20:03.52 | bjv1 | if i pop a gtk.Dialog open it's system modal but ... under the statusmenu? |
| 20:04.18 | bjv1 | yet the statusmenu is locked out |
| 20:05.21 | bjv1 | opening the powerbutton menu, then closing the pb menu reveals the Dialog running like expected |
| 20:06.12 | peterbjornxz | how "bad" is reflashing rootfs over and over while debugging a custom FW |
| 20:07.34 | bjv1 | i would not expect trouble from tens to hundreds of flashes. |
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| 20:07.47 | bjv1 | but just guessing. |
| 20:08.22 | ShadowJK | would guess 10,000 write endurance minimum |
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| 20:37.11 | peterbjornxz | ok , so a couple of non-FS flashes wont matter, factoring in regular r/w operations too? |
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| 21:34.46 | ThreeM | hi there |
| 21:34.48 | ThreeM | anyone using BlueMaemo? |
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| 21:51.37 | Timmyt | Is it possible to run symbian apps on maemo? |
| 21:52.07 | SpeedEvil | no |
| 21:55.46 | Timmyt | Is it possible to run wine on meamo? |
| 21:56.34 | SpeedEvil | Wine is not an emulator. |
| 21:56.42 | SpeedEvil | In principle, you could run qemu+wine |
| 21:56.46 | SpeedEvil | It would be slow. |
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| 21:59.08 | Timmyt | How can i rotate the screen? |
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| 22:01.14 | Timmyt | I saw advanced brightness does this but it needs some libs which are in the developmentall repos |
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| 22:06.56 | cehteh | wine is packaged for n900 |
| 22:07.15 | cehteh | but as native wine .. arm binaries ... wtf :P |
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| 22:07.47 | Timmyt | Which repository? |
| 22:08.01 | cehteh | dunno devel likely |
| 22:08.26 | cehteh | someone once ran pearpc on the n900 and booted macos X |
| 22:08.37 | cehteh | took an afternoon to butt it up :) |
| 22:08.40 | cehteh | boot |
| 22:08.56 | cehteh | same for qemu and win3.11 |
| 22:08.57 | Timmyt | I've seen that in yt |
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| 22:17.19 | fizzie | There's also a version of dosbox in extras, and dosbox runs win3.1 up to some degree. Probably not much of an improvement over x86-qemu. |
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| 22:20.36 | cehteh | the firefox for the n900 is recent enough to run fabian bellards x86 emulator in javascript :P |
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| 22:26.41 | peterbjornxz | ive (like many others) had win95 run in bochs |
| 22:27.18 | peterbjornxz | was a bit slow but it would be usable if bochs' touchscreen input functioned properly |
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| 23:39.14 | peterbjornxz | is there any way of fixing console keymap without modding kernel |
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| 23:43.47 | NIN101 | peterbjornxz |
| 23:43.49 | NIN101 | yes |
| 23:44.45 | NIN101 | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-08-12.log.html |
| 23:47.36 | peterbjornxz | thanks, i remembered some of it, but i couldnt find it thru google |
| 23:47.42 | peterbjornxz | forgot IRC logs existed |
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