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| 02:00.14 | Psi | the n900 IR port is only TX isnt it? ie, there is no RX |
| 02:00.26 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 02:00.48 | Psi | looks like i'll have to use the osilloscope then :P hehe |
| 02:01.19 | Termana | good morning |
| 02:01.29 | Psi | morning |
| 02:01.45 | DocScrutinizer | scope? for what? |
| 02:02.07 | Psi | for seeing what the IR codes are, so i can make a config file for the device |
| 02:02.17 | DocScrutinizer | *yawn* |
| 02:02.32 | SpeedEvil | Psi: In principle it's possible to do what DocScrutinizer is about to suggest. |
| 02:02.41 | Psi | soundcard? |
| 02:02.55 | Psi | or, mic in the case of n900 |
| 02:03.07 | fusi | oooh it runs! |
| 02:03.14 | Psi | is that what he was going to suggest? :P |
| 02:03.14 | DocScrutinizer | use a phototransistor and a 3.5mm 4pole. connect phototransistor to sleve and lowest ring. Done |
| 02:03.36 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: how did you know :-D |
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| 02:03.44 | Psi | DocScrutinizer: no need to filter out the carrier? |
| 02:03.49 | DocScrutinizer | no |
| 02:03.52 | Psi | ok |
| 02:03.54 | Psi | thankx |
| 02:04.01 | DocScrutinizer | yw |
| 02:04.44 | Psi | any idea of those two connections are on the tv out cable? |
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| 02:04.54 | Psi | so i dont need to go find a 4pole 3.5mm |
| 02:04.56 | DocScrutinizer | yellow |
| 02:05.06 | Psi | :) |
| 02:05.15 | DocScrutinizer | + = pin, GND = shield |
| 02:05.19 | Psi | yeah |
| 02:05.35 | DocScrutinizer | 2.5V, 2k2R series |
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| 02:05.48 | DocScrutinizer | aka source Z |
| 02:06.01 | DocScrutinizer | so really all you need is a phototransistor |
| 02:06.05 | Psi | yeah |
| 02:06.37 | DocScrutinizer | if you wanna get fancy, place a 100pF in parallel (filter carrier ;-D ) |
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| 02:07.17 | Psi | i have a few IR reciever chips somewhere |
| 02:07.33 | DocScrutinizer | or do the math for a RC filter with R=2k2 and f(0)=10kHz |
| 02:07.46 | fusi | wish i undserstood electronivs |
| 02:08.19 | DocScrutinizer | maybe yu can even use 1nF |
| 02:08.20 | Psi | fusi: you dont really need to understand much to be able to join existing stuff together and make whatever you want |
| 02:08.34 | fusi | like burnt out bits of electronics? |
| 02:08.37 | fusi | :D |
| 02:08.38 | DocScrutinizer | but I bet you don't need any of that |
| 02:08.41 | Psi | heh |
| 02:08.57 | Psi | DocScrutinizer: yeah |
| 02:09.15 | DocScrutinizer | takes a glance at schematics |
| 02:10.24 | Psi | so you have the n900 schematics? |
| 02:10.31 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 02:10.34 | Psi | nice |
| 02:10.37 | SpeedEvil | they're on the wiki |
| 02:10.43 | Psi | didnt know this |
| 02:11.00 | DocScrutinizer | there's already a 100pF, after the bed |
| 02:11.17 | fusi | pF.. |
| 02:11.24 | fusi | pico farrad? :D |
| 02:11.26 | DocScrutinizer | pico Farad |
| 02:11.29 | fusi | yay |
| 02:11.32 | fusi | i was right |
| 02:11.34 | fusi | dances |
| 02:11.42 | Psi | heh |
| 02:11.53 | DocScrutinizer | bead |
| 02:13.16 | DocScrutinizer | L4080 bead 120R/100MHz |
| 02:13.25 | DocScrutinizer | irrelevant for kHz |
| 02:14.15 | DocScrutinizer | blocks the RF so it goes to FMRX rather than to GND via 100pF |
| 02:15.11 | Psi | so irrecord can read the line in directly? |
| 02:16.33 | DocScrutinizer | nope, you'll need to use soundcard for this |
| 02:17.25 | Psi | sounds like the oscilloscope would be easier |
| 02:17.37 | DocScrutinizer | though *IF* it actually pulls down the line to GND, then HOLD button even shall get triggered that can somehow get read directly |
| 02:18.11 | nox- | apparently lirc has a portaudio driver for soundcard input... |
| 02:18.12 | DocScrutinizer | hey, I'd prefer audacity to a cheap scope for this task every day |
| 02:18.28 | nox- | tho i much doubt thats got built for n900 lirc :) |
| 02:18.31 | DocScrutinizer | nox-: \o/ |
| 02:18.38 | Psi | for getting codes when your away from home yeah, this is definitly the way to go |
| 02:19.07 | Psi | but at home its probably simpler to just use the rigol |
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| 02:19.34 | DocScrutinizer | nox-: where did I see your nick recently? |
| 02:20.19 | nox- | hm lirc docs talk about an audio-alsa input too... |
| 02:20.19 | Psi | think ill make a 4pole 3.5->phototransistor module i can keep in my wallet |
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| 02:20.25 | DocScrutinizer | champion developer of August? co-author of a package with 2 other guys? |
| 02:20.31 | nox- | DocScrutinizer, you tell me :) |
| 02:20.35 | nox- | hm? |
| 02:20.42 | nox- | probabyl different nox |
| 02:20.55 | nox- | ly |
| 02:20.56 | nox- | even |
| 02:21.06 | nox- | http://www.lirc.org/html/audio-alsa.html |
| 02:21.27 | nox- | ah yeah lirc-0.9.0/daemons/hw_audio_alsa.c |
| 02:21.44 | DocScrutinizer | hmmm rigol |
| 02:22.00 | Psi | 1052e |
| 02:22.06 | nox- | this is the hw: http://www.lirc.org/ir-audio.html |
| 02:22.08 | Psi | the one everyone hacked to 100mhz :D |
| 02:22.19 | nox- | whats that, a tuner? |
| 02:22.24 | DocScrutinizer | sope |
| 02:22.25 | Psi | oscilloscope |
| 02:22.27 | nox- | ah |
| 02:22.28 | DocScrutinizer | scope |
| 02:23.04 | nox- | DocScrutinizer, curious which package were you thinking of? |
| 02:23.06 | Psi | i should get one of those new agilent ones |
| 02:23.08 | DocScrutinizer | I got rid of basically all my tools |
| 02:23.13 | Psi | mm.. fast update rate |
| 02:23.57 | DocScrutinizer | nox-: no idea. Just seen a nox- mentioned somewhere last 48h, thought "duh, you know that guy?" |
| 02:24.29 | nox- | im mostly a freebsd guy, something to do with that? |
| 02:24.42 | DocScrutinizer | fullname (nox-@somewhere.foo) |
| 02:24.57 | nox- | nox@freebsd.org |
| 02:25.02 | DocScrutinizer | yeah |
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| 02:25.24 | DocScrutinizer | in some .h or whitepaper or sth |
| 02:25.36 | nox- | heh |
| 02:25.40 | nox- | i wonder what that was :) |
| 02:25.49 | DocScrutinizer | nfc |
| 02:25.54 | nox- | *g* |
| 02:26.29 | DocScrutinizer | packrat? |
| 02:26.45 | nox- | hm i dont even remember what that is... |
| 02:26.54 | DocScrutinizer | nm |
| 02:27.09 | DocScrutinizer | If I recall it I'll let you know |
| 02:27.13 | nox- | heh ok |
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| 02:39.34 | DocScrutinizer | dang, my dns-server(s) dead, probably not long until I'm offline |
| 02:40.11 | nox- | try 8.8.8.8 |
| 02:40.14 | nox- | (google's) |
| 02:40.32 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, just needs reconfiguration of my router :-/ |
| 02:41.24 | DocScrutinizer | maybe it's even my provider's DSLAM |
| 02:41.33 | DocScrutinizer | modem acts weird |
| 02:43.38 | nox- | you can also put it in your local resolv.conf for the time being |
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| 02:49.25 | DocScrutinizer | tzzz, changing second DNS to 8.8.8.8 in router made all work great, PRIMARY DNS is answering again |
| 02:49.41 | nox- | heh |
| 02:49.57 | DocScrutinizer | I think this ZyXEL P660 is *crap* |
| 02:50.20 | nox- | oldschool, still using freebsd as router here... |
| 02:50.34 | DocScrutinizer | can't afford that :-D |
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| 02:52.06 | nox- | mh |
| 02:52.33 | DocScrutinizer | I've seen this effect before, seems each time the modem thinks about using secondary DNS it goes apeshit |
| 02:52.47 | nox- | oh |
| 02:53.10 | nox- | (you mean the router?) |
| 02:53.25 | DocScrutinizer | somehow last time I tried to investigate what's going on, everything was *really* weird, like 2nd DNS got messed up and killing primary DNS table or sth |
| 02:53.46 | nox- | o_O |
| 02:54.39 | DocScrutinizer | I'm using a very proprietary DNS which isn't exactly meant to be public usage |
| 02:55.06 | DocScrutinizer | and I'm all doubt about the secondary DNS there being a proper DNS at all |
| 02:55.26 | nox- | well google's is `proper' |
| 02:55.42 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, so I might keep 8.8.8.8 for secondary |
| 02:55.53 | nox- | ah the one you had, ok |
| 02:56.22 | DocScrutinizer | th eone I used for secondary 5min ago |
| 02:56.28 | nox- | yeah |
| 02:56.46 | DocScrutinizer | instead of that x.x.212.52 |
| 02:57.07 | DocScrutinizer | of a small provider here in my town |
| 02:57.20 | DocScrutinizer | that's not at all related to me |
| 02:57.28 | nox- | heh |
| 02:59.10 | DocScrutinizer | advantage of distributed info. DSL provider knows my IP<->realname, this DNS knows my queries and IP but can't correlate to any real name |
| 02:59.12 | nox- | once discovered an uni dns in one little used box when it wouldnt resolve anymore, apparently it then was moved or closed for the outside |
| 02:59.32 | nox- | makes sense |
| 03:00.15 | DocScrutinizer | google however knows *all* :-P |
| 03:00.39 | nox- | possibly |
| 03:00.55 | DocScrutinizer | that's why I don't really like 8.8.8.8 and 4.4.4.4 |
| 03:01.05 | nox- | also usually refuses google's cookies |
| 03:01.37 | DocScrutinizer | won't help when you use 8.8.8.8 |
| 03:01.50 | nox- | hehe |
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| 03:01.55 | DocScrutinizer | 8.8.8.8 knows *everything* you do |
| 03:02.00 | nox- | (i didnt say i usually do... :) |
| 03:02.13 | nox- | thats just one publicly available one |
| 03:02.52 | DocScrutinizer | quits wireshark |
| 03:03.58 | nox- | ..publicly available and easy to remember |
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| 03:07.48 | DocScrutinizer | changed wireshark for filter:ip.addr=8.8.8.8 and let it run for the next days |
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| 03:20.04 | nox- | you run that on the router? |
| 03:22.27 | DocScrutinizer | wireshark? no |
| 03:23.00 | DocScrutinizer | my router doesn't relay DNS, it just hands DNS IP to DHCP clients |
| 03:23.05 | nox- | oh |
| 03:23.33 | nox- | even more strange then that it would have trouble with a secondary |
| 03:23.37 | DocScrutinizer | this also renders moot all my rant about ZyXEL being crap and involved there |
| 03:23.44 | nox- | heh |
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| 03:28.05 | fusi | heh |
| 03:28.12 | fusi | googled a problem ive got |
| 03:28.31 | fusi | and got linked to an archived irc chat log from this channel |
| 03:28.32 | fusi | hehe |
| 03:28.48 | fusi | unfortauntely the problem doesnt appear to have been resolved |
| 03:28.57 | fusi | but the cause was identified |
| 03:29.00 | fusi | aclocal: macro `gl_FUNC_ARGZ' required but not defined |
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| 03:31.18 | fusi | https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2009-November/011125.html |
| 03:31.21 | fusi | hehe |
| 03:32.17 | fusi | can i delete the m4 folder and its contents |
| 03:32.21 | fusi | is it regenerated? |
| 03:33.37 | nox- | that i kind of doubt |
| 03:33.51 | fusi | yea iim looking thorugh it |
| 03:34.03 | fusi | i do see a m4_define([LT_PACKAGE_VERSION], [2.2.6b]) |
| 03:34.08 | fusi | in ltversion.m4 |
| 03:34.10 | fusi | hmmm |
| 03:34.39 | fusi | woglindewhich libtool version fremantle has?01:05 |
| 03:34.40 | fusi | javispedro1.5.26-4 |
| 03:35.27 | fusi | hmm nope |
| 03:36.03 | fusi | commeting the def out doenst help either |
| 03:36.49 | fusi | hmm lt~obsolete.m4 |
| 03:37.10 | nox- | i think you can run all the auto* foo on a pc, except for the ./configure run itself |
| 03:37.21 | fusi | orly |
| 03:37.33 | fusi | yea im in scratchbox atm |
| 03:37.39 | nox- | `in theory' :) |
| 03:37.48 | fusi | oh you tease |
| 03:38.39 | nox- | but that might have more chances than getting something more recent to work with obsolete auto* tools |
| 03:38.51 | fusi | ooh |
| 03:39.13 | fusi | well it didnt error on the autoreconf |
| 03:39.48 | fusi | ooh! |
| 03:40.04 | fusi | \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ |
| 03:40.07 | fusi | huggles nox- |
| 03:40.25 | fusi | you win a million winrars |
| 03:40.31 | nox- | haha |
| 03:40.41 | fusi | :d ty |
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| 03:40.44 | fusi | :D |
| 03:40.47 | nox- | yw |
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| 03:42.01 | nox- | and i just found a argz.m4 here that defines gl_FUNC_ARGZ, # Portability macros for glibc argz. -*- Autoconf -* |
| 03:42.47 | fusi | :D |
| 03:43.39 | nox- | ah yeah its from libtool-2.4 |
| 03:44.38 | fusi | ah |
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| 03:50.08 | fusi | hoorah |
| 03:50.14 | fusi | compiles and runs \o/ |
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| 04:24.47 | nox- | fusi, :) |
| 04:24.50 | nox- | bbl |
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| 04:57.07 | antman89691 | has anyone else placed the "preorder" for the cordia tab |
| 05:00.00 | wmarone | antman89691: I will as soon as actual preorders are available |
| 05:02.58 | antman89691 | it might help to to the pre pre order, aparently he needs to know who is interested |
| 05:03.01 | antman89691 | but I'm glad to see it coming soon |
| 05:03.24 | antman89691 | harmattan is proving to be a let down |
| 05:03.43 | cehteh | pre pre pre pre order .. wtf :P |
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| 05:13.15 | ruskie | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Canalys-August-1-report/ <-- lol |
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| 05:16.07 | ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/01/rural_wireless_standard/ |
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| 07:07.04 | TimmyT | when the email app checks my inbox and finds new mails, downloads the body of new mails, but i want it downloads only their headers, not the whole body, how can i configure it? |
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| 07:09.50 | DocScrutinizer | use imap instead of pop3 ? |
| 07:10.32 | cehteh | imap doesnt work better on the n900 :P |
| 07:10.36 | TimmyT | DocScrutinizer: i did, |
| 07:10.38 | DocScrutinizer | configurability of modest is errrr modest |
| 07:10.45 | cehteh | email is just broken |
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| 07:11.32 | MohammadAG | not in nokia messaging :P |
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| 08:17.55 | Arkenoi | will cordia run apps from fremantle repositories? |
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| 08:25.16 | DocScrutinizer | wtf is cordia? |
| 08:26.06 | DocScrutinizer | esp what's a cordia tab? |
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| 08:46.04 | Psi | DocScrutinizer: yay, got my lighting working in qtirreco |
| 08:46.35 | Psi | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.55 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 08:49.28 | Psi | do we actually know what wavelength the filter in the n900 case is designed to pass? |
| 08:52.11 | SpeedEvil | what filter |
| 08:52.30 | Psi | on the n900 case |
| 08:52.34 | Psi | where the ir led is |
| 08:53.14 | SpeedEvil | Quite irrelevant. |
| 08:53.27 | SpeedEvil | It passes the LEDs wavelength. |
| 08:53.42 | SpeedEvil | which is - pretty much - one wavelength. |
| 08:53.44 | Psi | oh right |
| 08:53.52 | DocScrutinizer | exactly |
| 08:53.53 | Psi | yeah, i wasnt thinking |
| 08:54.07 | SpeedEvil | Probably in the 800nm range |
| 08:54.14 | DocScrutinizer | and my freq was correctish for my TV, yet the range is <2m |
| 08:55.04 | Psi | at 40khz i was getting 1m and not very reliable. changed to 38khz and am now getting it from the other side of the room, ~4m |
| 08:55.37 | DocScrutinizer | well, most IRRX are not exactly carrier selective |
| 08:55.56 | Psi | my room lighting uses one of those 3pin ir reciever chips |
| 08:56.20 | Psi | with built in amp and filter that outputs the raw pulses at 0-5v |
| 08:57.08 | DocScrutinizer | yeah , iirc those are usually spec'ed like >>38..42kHz<< and >32..36kHz<< |
| 08:57.23 | DocScrutinizer | sth like that |
| 08:58.12 | DocScrutinizer | at least the one used in my TV evidently is characterized correctly by such spec |
| 08:59.12 | Psi | http://psi.abcom.co.nz/leds1s.jpg |
| 08:59.16 | Psi | http://psi.abcom.co.nz/leds2s.jpg |
| 08:59.40 | Psi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jH_wRJW5vU |
| 09:00.31 | Psi | hehe, my room lighting video came up as the 4th item in google search results for "led room lighting" |
| 09:00.39 | Psi | feels special |
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| 09:56.35 | ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/02/isolated_human_genes_can_be_patented/ <-- can we stop with patenting nature? |
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| 09:56.59 | robbiethe1st | ^^ |
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| 11:16.52 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | http://maemo.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED |
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| 11:20.15 | Timmyt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:24.06 | chem|st | cehteh: config... set 9 instead of 4... |
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| 11:25.00 | chem|st | Psi: that is old... was one of the first desktop tweaks out afair |
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| 11:28.36 | Arkenoi | my apmd died, how can i check what happened? |
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| 11:35.40 | ShadowJK | you're not supposed to have an apmd? |
| 11:36.55 | gomiam | ShadowJK: where are you not supposed to have an apmd? |
| 11:37.30 | gomiam | AFAIK you can have one on N8x0... then again it might be the applet just talking trash when it connects to the battery info. |
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| 11:42.51 | Arkenoi | ShadowJK, battery applet says so (that it died and it cannot get battery level because of it) |
| 11:43.37 | ShadowJK | must be some random crapapplet :) |
| 11:44.41 | Arkenoi | the stock battery indicator shows it all grey as well |
| 11:46.45 | Arkenoi | batterygraph, however, dies get the proper values |
| 11:46.48 | Arkenoi | does |
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| 11:56.28 | gomiam | ps -efa's... |
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| 11:57.45 | gomiam | there seems to be no process called apm-whatever |
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| 11:58.07 | gomiam | which means the apm is either an applet brainfart or something embedded somewhere else. |
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| 11:58.49 | gomiam | checking /usr/lib/advance-power-monitor/* ... |
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| 12:59.58 | gomiam | Arkenoi: ok, it seems there is a /usr/lib/advanced-power-monitor/AdvancedPowerMonitorDaemon.py that acts as APMD for the applet. /etc/init.d/apmonitord restart might be the command you want to run as root to get APMD back up again. |
| 13:00.41 | TimmyT | i had installed mymenu and now i've removed that, but now i see that it has broken the menu, and lots of installed apps are not shown in the default menu |
| 13:00.47 | TimmyT | what can i do with it? |
| 13:01.25 | Arkenoi | strange, apmonitord is missing from my init.d |
| 13:01.31 | Arkenoi | how could it happen? |
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| 13:02.21 | Arkenoi | and there is no /usr/lib/advanced-power-monitor as well |
| 13:02.34 | gomiam | Arkenoi: mmm... it seems you lack some package |
| 13:02.36 | gomiam | checking... |
| 13:02.56 | FIQ|n900 | TimmyT, have you rebooted since uninstall? |
| 13:03.30 | TimmyT | FIQ|n900: yep |
| 13:03.44 | FIQ|n900 | where did you install it? |
| 13:03.54 | Arkenoi | andvanced-power-monitor is already the newest version |
| 13:04.08 | gomiam | Arkenoi: do you have advance-power-monitor installed? |
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| 13:04.18 | gomiam | erm... advanced-power-monitor, I mean |
| 13:04.54 | TimmyT | FIQ|n900: what so u mean where did u install it? i've installed on my phone. where can i install it? |
| 13:05.20 | FIQ|n900 | er |
| 13:05.31 | Arkenoi | yes |
| 13:05.32 | gomiam | TimmyT: he asks where did you put, on the menu, the mymenu link... I think. |
| 13:05.44 | gomiam | Arkenoi: reinstall it then, please. |
| 13:05.50 | FIQ|n900 | i wonder what repository you installed it from |
| 13:06.31 | TimmyT | ahah, official repositories, but dunnu which one |
| 13:06.37 | FIQ|n900 | ah, i found this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=57822 |
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| 13:07.13 | TimmyT | i've ssh access to my phone |
| 13:07.35 | Arkenoi | reinstalled, everything is ok |
| 13:07.49 | Arkenoi | how could it vanish from the system though apt thinks it is still there? |
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| 13:08.16 | FIQ|n900 | TimmyT, that's really an outdated thread so the solution might not work however |
| 13:08.23 | FIQ|n900 | but try it |
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| 13:09.43 | TimmyT | FIQ|n900: someone reported that by doing this, rearranging is not possible |
| 13:10.09 | TimmyT | he said: I had the same problem, did the same thing and everything worked fine... |
| 13:10.11 | TimmyT | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.11 | TimmyT | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.20 | FIQ|n900 | i see it, readed the thread as well |
| 13:10.43 | FIQ|n900 | but i don't really use mymenu, so i don't know exactly why it happens |
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| 13:10.51 | FIQ|n900 | so i can't help you there really |
| 13:10.59 | FIQ|n900 | except from linking that |
| 13:11.17 | TimmyT | if i know it will happen, i would behave as u :D |
| 13:11.31 | TimmyT | and i would not install it |
| 13:11.34 | FIQ|n900 | the only other solution I can give is... well, reflash |
| 13:12.03 | TimmyT | FIQ|n900: lol, i've just reflashed it |
| 13:12.12 | FIQ|n900 | um |
| 13:12.17 | FIQ|n900 | and it didn't help? |
| 13:12.22 | TimmyT | fiq" |
| 13:12.31 | FIQ|n900 | and you've already removed everything? |
| 13:12.43 | TimmyT | no, it was ok, i've installed this app after that |
| 13:13.09 | FIQ|n900 | if so, try reflash again, that will help for sure :) |
| 13:13.23 | FIQ|n900 | even if it might be a quicker way that i don't know about |
| 13:13.27 | TimmyT | i mean if i reflash it, it'll be ok. but i've just done that today |
| 13:13.35 | TimmyT | ok |
| 13:14.01 | TimmyT | so no one will remove or report this app? |
| 13:14.18 | TimmyT | it'll broke more phones |
| 13:14.26 | TimmyT | err, brick |
| 13:14.53 | FIQ|n900 | indeed it will |
| 13:15.01 | FIQ|n900 | submit a bug report if it isn't already |
| 13:15.45 | gomiam | Arkenoi: good question. I have no answer for it though. |
| 13:16.37 | FIQ|n900 | TimmyT, you might want to try installing something that rebuilds the menu and see if it works |
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| 13:16.53 | FIQ|n900 | like catorise |
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| 13:17.03 | FIQ|n900 | (and then uninstall it) |
| 13:17.14 | TimmyT | let me try |
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| 13:21.10 | TimmyT | FIQ|n900: i've just installed catorise and it has restored my icons, but seems it's a good menu, |
| 13:21.12 | TimmyT | tnx |
| 13:21.59 | FIQ|n900 | ok |
| 13:22.03 | FIQ|n900 | np |
| 13:22.55 | TimmyT | where to report it? |
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| 14:02.19 | Shapeshifter | media player says 'no songs'. everything is gone except the radio stations. help? |
| 14:07.08 | nusse | have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 14:08.37 | Shapeshifter | nusse: no. that seems bothersome and I wouldn't even know what the problem was |
| 14:10.05 | villager | perhaps the Tracker database needs to be rebuilt |
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| 14:11.34 | Shapeshifter | villager: How do I do that? I see tracker is running |
| 14:11.48 | villager | hmm, wonder if infobot has any information about that |
| 14:11.53 | villager | ~tracker |
| 14:11.56 | Shapeshifter | !tracker |
| 14:12.35 | villager | well, if infobot knows, I'm not sure what the keyword it |
| 14:13.40 | villager | try /usr/lib/tracker/trackerd -r |
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| 14:16.19 | villager | Shapeshifter: or, according to a web search, maybe it's tracker-processes -r |
| 14:17.16 | villager | of course this all assumes that your songs aren't physically gone... |
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| 14:32.28 | Shapeshifter | villager: thanks, I was jsut driving somewhere else. tracker-processes -r did something but didn't solve the problem |
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| 14:34.25 | Shapeshifter | mh it's probably running in the background |
| 14:34.28 | villager | Shapeshifter: it may take a while to reindex... but can you check if the files are physically there? with the file manager, say? |
| 14:35.27 | Shapeshifter | villager: yes they are, I can play them through file manager as well. |
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| 14:35.46 | villager | Shapeshifter: ok, then perhaps you'll just have to wait for the reindex to complete |
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| 14:42.06 | Shapeshifter | villager: yep they're back |
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| 16:06.03 | psychologe | i install cutetube-qml it's a great program,but i can't login my youtube accounts. |
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| 16:19.57 | rm_work | ~packrat |
| 16:19.58 | infobot | methinks packrat is a cute little rodent that keeps everything it finds. http://www.ageofikon.com/prh/ |
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| 17:00.55 | reenignEesreveR | i have a second hand n900; the previous guy has tinkered a lot to install a lot of unwanted software ... i was wondering if there could be a way to get my phone into a state as if it was unboxed ... flashing etc would do? |
| 17:01.20 | NIN101 | ~flashing |
| 17:01.20 | infobot | somebody said maemo-flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 17:01.57 | reenignEesreveR | i don't think i need to update the firmware as such ... |
| 17:02.54 | NIN101 | read the page, it answers your question. |
| 17:03.37 | reenignEesreveR | thx |
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| 17:21.48 | angelox|laptop | Hi everybody |
| 17:22.14 | angelox|laptop | I'm getting a Green(or yellow) light when i plug my Nokia N900 at usb plugging into my PC |
| 17:23.40 | angelox|laptop | it charges fine |
| 17:24.33 | nid0 | whats the problem? |
| 17:24.44 | SpeedEvil | green is charged |
| 17:24.57 | angelox|laptop | i'm not sure if it's green |
| 17:24.58 | SpeedEvil | yellow solid is charging, but too low battery voltage to boot |
| 17:25.04 | angelox|laptop | hmm |
| 17:25.09 | angelox|laptop | but the device powers up finely |
| 17:25.10 | SpeedEvil | Yellow flashing is charging after booting. |
| 17:25.29 | angelox|laptop | Yellow solid |
| 17:26.35 | SpeedEvil | That's charging - when off then. |
| 17:26.55 | angelox|laptop | but that color when device powered on? |
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| 17:28.58 | angelox|laptop | that also when booting another O.S.,like MeeGo |
| 17:29.11 | SpeedEvil | Odd. |
| 17:29.33 | SpeedEvil | With device powered on - if it's not maemo - whatever that OS chooses to do |
| 17:29.58 | angelox|laptop | but on Maemo i get the same |
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| 17:35.21 | SpeedEvil | Does it charge properly? |
| 17:35.34 | SpeedEvil | An have you installed any LED pattern stuff? |
| 17:35.50 | SpeedEvil | It's possible for the MCE file to be corrupt, and have the wrong patterns stored. |
| 17:36.27 | angelox|laptop | Yes,it charge s |
| 17:36.36 | angelox|laptop | no,i haven't led pattern app |
| 17:39.17 | angelox|laptop | and i've flashed too recently |
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| 17:49.14 | hiemanshu | I think the usb on n900 will break any day now :( |
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| 17:58.03 | fusi | ahoy |
| 18:01.12 | fusi | hmm |
| 18:01.49 | fusi | when stepping into a func exported by this .so, the program exits withcode 0 :( |
| 18:02.01 | fusi | i guess it cant find the .so? |
| 18:02.17 | fusi | thought it would of failed at link/load time? |
| 18:02.55 | fusi | am i able to use ar and glom the .a intp the program? |
| 18:03.58 | fusi | or will that still require the .so? |
| 18:04.16 | fusi | is the .a just an import file? no actual cdoe? |
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| 18:11.29 | fusi | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html |
| 18:11.32 | fusi | yay |
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| 18:14.06 | fusi | hmm ldconfig |
| 18:14.44 | javispedro | fusi: lazy linking: a symbol is resolved the first time it is called |
| 18:14.57 | javispedro | so yes, it will die if it can't find it the moment it is called. |
| 18:15.07 | javispedro | however, it should print something meaningful to stderr. |
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| 18:24.43 | fusi | javispedro: aha |
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| 18:24.55 | fusi | thanks, unfortunately it silently exits |
| 18:25.01 | fusi | exit value: 0 |
| 18:25.06 | fusi | im assuming it cant find the lib |
| 18:25.14 | fusi | but its in /usr/local/lib |
| 18:25.15 | fusi | hmm |
| 18:25.40 | fusi | am i able to link the .a into the program |
| 18:25.51 | fusi | so that it doesnt need to link the external lib |
| 18:25.56 | javispedro | are you closing stderr or sth wierd? |
| 18:26.10 | fusi | using the hello world template |
| 18:26.22 | fusi | clicking the big button calls into this lib |
| 18:26.35 | fusi | no stderr messing around afaics |
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| 18:27.02 | fusi | hmm |
| 18:27.48 | fusi | aha |
| 18:27.58 | fusi | nope im looking at the wrong console ^^ |
| 18:28.11 | fusi | /home/maemo/workspace/helloworld/helloworld: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/liboauth.so.0: undefined symbol: RAND_bytes |
| 18:28.12 | fusi | waaah |
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| 18:28.23 | fusi | so.. its findiong the lib? |
| 18:28.33 | fusi | but its not exporting the required symbol |
| 18:28.35 | fusi | eeeh |
| 18:29.09 | fusi | scratches head |
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| 18:30.55 | fusi | thanks for your help javispedro |
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| 18:31.51 | fusi | hmmhmmhmmhmm |
| 18:32.42 | fusi | hmm |
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| 18:32.58 | fusi | RAND_bytes is declared openssl/rand.h |
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| 18:33.26 | javispedro | fusi: sounds like a hard problem |
| 18:33.28 | fusi | soo it must be that it cant find openssl lib |
| 18:33.41 | fusi | naa |
| 18:33.53 | fusi | its just me being noob with build envs =) |
| 18:33.57 | javispedro | yes |
| 18:33.59 | javispedro | I mean |
| 18:34.07 | javispedro | you are probably running a Diablo binary in Fremantle, or the like |
| 18:34.16 | fusi | yer |
| 18:34.37 | fusi | hmm |
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| 18:36.53 | fusi | what im doing is basically |
| 18:37.06 | fusi | got liboauth from the repo |
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| 18:37.14 | fusi | built it, installed yada |
| 18:37.33 | fusi | now afaik that should of pulled down all the openssl stuff and whatnot |
| 18:38.28 | javispedro | check the versions of the openssl packages you used |
| 18:38.36 | javispedro | device and scratchbox should match |
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| 18:39.21 | fusi | yea |
| 18:44.00 | fusi | hmm |
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| 18:51.19 | DocScrutinizer | hiemanshu: get your dang USB fixed then |
| 18:51.50 | DocScrutinizer | NOW |
| 18:55.51 | schaueho | I'm trying to use my n900 as a router, connecting my laptop via usb |
| 18:56.12 | schaueho | unfortunately, whenever the n900 is on gprs, the laptop can't connect to the n900 |
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| 18:56.14 | schaueho | any ideas? |
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| 19:07.26 | schaueho | the gprs interface seems to interfere with the usb device |
| 19:07.50 | schaueho | I can't even ping the ip on the usb interface from the n900 |
| 19:08.00 | valdyn_ | schaueho: ping is disabled by default |
| 19:08.49 | valdyn_ | schaueho: did you adjust routes? |
| 19:09.05 | valdyn_ | schaueho: is forwarding enabled? ( i have no idea what background i can assume ) |
| 19:10.26 | schaueho | yes, forwarding is enabled, but I don't even get to the n900 |
| 19:10.41 | schaueho | although I can ping the laptop from the n900 just fine |
| 19:10.46 | valdyn_ | schaueho: echo requests are disabled, enable them if you want to play with ping |
| 19:11.00 | valdyn_ | schaueho: i mean echo replies are disabled |
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| 19:11.12 | schaueho | hmm, but only if on gprs? |
| 19:11.14 | valdyn_ | schaueho: obviously they're not disabled on your laptop |
| 19:11.38 | valdyn_ | schaueho: nah, they're generally off by default iirc |
| 19:11.53 | schaueho | when the n900 is on wlan, I can ping it from the laptop just fine |
| 19:12.23 | schaueho | I suspect that the routing I get from the gprs is the culprit |
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| 19:12.46 | schaueho | I get a default route 0.0.0.0 with a gateway of 0.0.0.0 |
| 19:12.59 | valdyn_ | schaueho: thats ok |
| 19:13.34 | valdyn_ | Shapeshifter: thing is that your route to the laptop via usb needs to be above in the routing table |
| 19:13.47 | valdyn_ | schaueho: ^^ |
| 19:13.51 | valdyn_ | Shapeshifter: sry |
| 19:14.19 | schaueho | well, if I can trust the output of route -n, that's the case |
| 19:14.30 | valdyn_ | schaueho: sure you can trust it |
| 19:15.26 | valdyn_ | schaueho: do verify that echo is on |
| 19:16.10 | valdyn_ | schaueho: oh and do verify that routing table on the laptop too |
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| 19:19.34 | fusi | think ive found the root of the problem |
| 19:19.55 | fusi | ./configure doesnt work in scratchbox due to wrong libtools, so i ran it outside of scratchbox |
| 19:20.11 | fusi | which must of pulled in aaaaaaall the wrong versions of dependancies |
| 19:20.32 | fusi | so ive gotta recreate the build env for this liboauth basically |
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| 19:24.00 | schaueho | valdyn_, you're right, the echo replies are disabled |
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| 19:28.01 | Justus | hi |
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| 19:29.13 | Justus | got a little problem here: whenever I try to do something on my N900 filesystem it fails, on the console i get the reason readonly filesystem, but when i check it with mount it says rw not ro, any ideas? |
| 19:29.38 | SpeedEvil | fuk? |
| 19:29.39 | SpeedEvil | full |
| 19:29.40 | SpeedEvil | >? |
| 19:29.47 | SpeedEvil | stabs his keyboard. |
| 19:30.41 | Justus | hm, settings tells me theres 1 gb free space |
| 19:31.16 | Justus | df tells me 96 percent |
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| 19:32.10 | SpeedEvil | which filesystem |
| 19:32.12 | Justus | plus it also fails on rm |
| 19:33.34 | Justus | - /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat (rw,noauto,nodev,noexec,nosuid,noatime,nodiratime,utf8,uid=29999,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0133,rodir) |
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| 19:39.54 | SpeedEvil | I'd look at dmesg |
| 19:40.00 | SpeedEvil | see if there are any errors |
| 19:40.03 | SpeedEvil | Oh - this is mydocs? |
| 19:40.11 | SpeedEvil | you can - as root - unmount that |
| 19:40.21 | SpeedEvil | and then dosfsck it |
| 19:40.23 | SpeedEvil | I think |
| 19:40.31 | SpeedEvil | Or mount on a PC and run a filesystem checker |
| 19:44.35 | fusi | ok look slike liboauth is in the repos anyway |
| 19:44.43 | fusi | so i wont bother building that myself |
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| 19:50.50 | justus | re |
| 19:51.20 | Juozapas | hi |
| 19:51.23 | justus | did anyone answer after i posted the mount output? because at that time my system crashed |
| 19:51.53 | Juozapas | how to make time delay for camera? i want to make group photos with myself sometimes |
| 19:52.05 | NIN101 | @justus: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/latest.log.html |
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| 19:53.52 | justus | thanks alot, ill have a look |
| 19:55.04 | NIN101 | @Juozapas: IIRC the stock version can not do it. But take a look at this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=964196 which is now shipped with CSSU... |
| 19:55.19 | fusi | OOOOOMF IT WORKS |
| 19:55.32 | fusi | dances |
| 19:55.50 | Juozapas | thx |
| 19:56.10 | fusi | 0x8504170 "Failed to validate oauth signature and token" |
| 19:56.12 | fusi | \o/ |
| 19:56.15 | FIQ | what name does the microB binary have? |
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| 19:57.32 | reenignEesreveR | how do i know which firmware version would be best for me? there are about 20 options available :( |
| 19:58.48 | reenignEesreveR | what is "vanilla" version? |
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| 20:00.19 | NIN101 | reenignEesreveR: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#What_does_it_do.3F |
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| 20:03.31 | reenignEesreveR | what about regions? |
| 20:03.42 | Sicelo | Juozapas: you can also use something like: sleep 30; phone --control --capture <path> |
| 20:03.59 | reenignEesreveR | there are around 5 regions, my country doesn't fall any of those so prolly i'll be ok with "global" ? |
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| 20:06.14 | Juozapas | Sicelo: no command phone' |
| 20:06.23 | Sicelo | sorry |
| 20:06.29 | Sicelo | phone-control.... |
| 20:06.44 | NIN101 | @FIQ: /usr/bin/browser |
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| 20:07.04 | FIQ | ahh |
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| 20:07.20 | Jaffa | Ev'ning, all |
| 20:08.22 | NIN101 | reenignEesreveR: yes I think "global" is the right choice for you. Also, for the first time it is recommended to read the whole page. |
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| 20:08.46 | Juozapas | Sicelo: the same problem.. maybe i must install something first? |
| 20:08.57 | Juozapas | oh yeah.. |
| 20:09.02 | Juozapas | i found :) |
| 20:09.04 | Juozapas | thx |
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| 20:12.10 | Sicelo | yw |
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| 20:53.53 | Sc0rpius_ | :) |
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| 21:05.56 | fusi | achingly close to getting libpurple-twitter-protocol working |
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| 21:06.11 | fusi | (twitter plugin for conversations/contacts) |
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| 21:07.08 | vdv | can anybody suggest app for managing working hours? |
| 21:07.15 | fusi | flexo |
| 21:07.22 | vdv | just installed it |
| 21:07.48 | vdv | isn't there any alternatives? |
| 21:07.55 | fusi | dunno, thats what i use |
| 21:08.30 | vdv | if i have for example 80 hours in a month, then this counts as balance there? |
| 21:09.18 | vdv | flexo's logic is a bit unclear |
| 21:09.59 | vdv | i've set 4 as working days in settings, and have 80 hours in ballance |
| 21:10.14 | vdv | *working day |
| 21:10.37 | fusi | working day in hours is the number of hours you must work a day |
| 21:10.46 | fusi | so set it to 8 or 7.5 or whatever |
| 21:11.06 | fusi | your balance is how much flexi time you have accrewed |
| 21:11.08 | fusi | or owe |
| 21:11.21 | fusi | i dontquite understand what you mean |
| 21:11.40 | fusi | if u dont work your target hours a day you will go into negative flexi - i.e. oweing time |
| 21:12.32 | fusi | of course you could always go to felxo's website |
| 21:12.35 | fusi | and read the manual |
| 21:12.37 | vdv | my case, is that it's possible to work 2 hours today (instead of 4) and tomorrow 6 |
| 21:12.46 | fusi | which is here: http://www.balenet.com/flexo/guide.html |
| 21:12.54 | vdv | ah, ok, thanks :) |
| 21:13.48 | fusi | pomodoro comes up in my searches for time mamangement application on maemo as well |
| 21:15.18 | vdv | i'll look at it too, thanks a lot |
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| 21:19.38 | fusi | yw |
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| 21:43.01 | vdv | want to install garnet vm on n900, which version should i take? |
| 21:43.14 | vdv | OS2009? |
| 21:47.07 | javispedro | yes |
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