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| 01:46.41 | ShadowJK | tralalalalo, i don't understand the question |
| 01:53.57 | DocScrutinizer | (N9) :: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html |
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| 01:57.13 | DocScrutinizer | tbh actually I have a hard time see N9 going any sane direction, I'd even not be surprised when meegoCE never got proper support on *any* Nokia phone except N900 |
| 01:57.56 | DocScrutinizer | and M6 aka harmattan is as dead as can be |
| 02:01.14 | GeneralAntilles | shrugs. |
| 02:04.17 | DocScrutinizer | >> The presentation made frequent use of other terms that we frequently associate with the context of security, such as âattackâ, âmalicious codeâ, âspoofingâ, as well as âtrustedâ. None of them means what it normally means. âAttackâ doesn't mean someone trying to hurt you, it means you trying to copy music. âMalicious codeâ means code installed by you to do what someone else doesn't want your machine to do. â |
| 02:04.19 | DocScrutinizer | Spoofingâ doesn't mean someone's fooling you, it means your fooling Palladium. And so on. << |
| 02:04.30 | DocScrutinizer | s/Palladium/Aegis/g |
| 02:05.21 | GeneralAntilles | gnu.org, though. |
| 02:05.24 | GeneralAntilles | I mean, c'mon. |
| 02:05.43 | DocScrutinizer | well, when Stallman got a point, then he got a pont |
| 02:05.48 | DocScrutinizer | point* |
| 02:05.52 | DocScrutinizer | point |
| 02:06.05 | DocScrutinizer | err period |
| 02:06.31 | GeneralAntilles | Note there's no DRM in Aegis. |
| 02:06.32 | GeneralAntilles | So, meh. |
| 02:06.40 | DocScrutinizer | nonsense |
| 02:06.52 | GeneralAntilles | There's clearly a correct way to work with Aegis. |
| 02:06.59 | GeneralAntilles | We just don't know what it is right now. |
| 02:07.11 | cehteh | muahaha |
| 02:07.41 | cehteh | lick some nokia asses to get free community contributions signed? |
| 02:07.51 | DocScrutinizer | DRM is easily implemented by arbitrary apps using encryption/decryption (like CSS) |
| 02:07.58 | cehteh | really .. thats the WROOOOONG direction |
| 02:08.18 | DocScrutinizer | those apps will enforce a "secure" environment, and THAT *IS* DRM |
| 02:08.30 | cehteh | i like secure devices .. but it should not lock out the owner |
| 02:08.32 | GeneralAntilles | Then don't use them. |
| 02:08.49 | cehteh | with no rationale and under no circumstances |
| 02:08.52 | DocScrutinizer | stating Aehis has no DRM is mere BS, done by Nokia for a good reason |
| 02:09.35 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, I'll way for more information before I start issuing my summary judgements. |
| 02:09.57 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: please read the article linked above, even while it's gnu.org |
| 02:10.14 | GeneralAntilles | I'm familiar with the argument. |
| 02:10.24 | DocScrutinizer | uhuh |
| 02:10.34 | GeneralAntilles | But am going with an "insufficient information" exception for the time being. :) |
| 02:10.35 | DocScrutinizer | so how could you say "don't use them" |
| 02:10.37 | DocScrutinizer | ? |
| 02:10.53 | DocScrutinizer | actually that'S exactly my text: "Don't buy N9!" |
| 02:11.00 | GeneralAntilles | Don't use the applications. |
| 02:11.08 | GeneralAntilles | That doesn't except using an N9 if it suits your needs. |
| 02:11.24 | DocScrutinizer | you don't have a choice - please(!) read the article |
| 02:11.29 | GeneralAntilles | Later |
| 02:11.33 | GeneralAntilles | 9th inning |
| 02:13.30 | DocScrutinizer | with aegis they can kick off any alternative mediaplayer and so force you to use whatever they want, update apps whenever they want, even delete data from your device whenever they want. It's all in there and armed and loaded, just needs somebody to pull the trigger |
| 02:14.09 | cehteh | imo non-free devices dont deserve support from a free community |
| 02:14.34 | cehteh | if they want to launch it with commercial software vendors .. fine, ok for me, no buy |
| 02:14.35 | DocScrutinizer | exactly my point, and that's why I won't touch M6 |
| 02:16.05 | cehteh | i think everyone has to decide that by himself |
| 02:16.25 | DocScrutinizer | they *can* axe aegis now, and then I will contribute. Otherwise not. And it'S unlikely they bin aegis as "Nokia needs aegis to make Joku and Skype happy" |
| 02:16.41 | cehteh | but hey .. why playing with the clone, let it be harmattan or wp7 .. if i am used to such crap i would buy the original from apple |
| 02:16.57 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |
| 02:17.06 | cehteh | well opening aegis to the users .. make them generate and maintain their own keys |
| 02:17.37 | cehteh | its not a bad thing per se .. but its bad to lock the owner out |
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| 02:18.23 | DocScrutinizer | cehteh: TC *is* a bad thing, as the lockout of user is the root design axiom |
| 02:18.25 | cehteh | if its really a serious and well implemented security frameworks it should withstand such opening |
| 02:18.44 | DocScrutinizer | TC can't work at all if you allow user to have full control |
| 02:19.07 | cehteh | yes that was always may point too .. but thats not technically justified |
| 02:19.08 | DocScrutinizer | as user == malware |
| 02:19.15 | DocScrutinizer | it is |
| 02:19.32 | Evanescence | Does anyone used SMSCON ? I find that there is a password for SMSCON EDITOR . what is that ? |
| 02:19.34 | cehteh | one could use crypto hardware to make devices more private for the legitimate users |
| 02:19.53 | DocScrutinizer | TC "good things" arise from user not being allowed to do certain things |
| 02:20.03 | cehteh | but as soon they start thinking it as DRM crap and fear their customers then its spoiled |
| 02:20.15 | cehteh | yes thats the marketing thinking .. |
| 02:20.22 | cehteh | so no go. period |
| 02:20.36 | DocScrutinizer | no, that's the security concept on a technical level |
| 02:21.06 | cehteh | cant the user prime the TPM and generate his own keys there technically? |
| 02:22.26 | cehteh | for me that would be a requirement .. well thats also the reason why i dont use/activate the tpm on my laptop and why i wont buy a disk drive with hardware encryption, i trust linux software encryption more |
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| 02:28.26 | Evanescence | Does anyone used SMSCON ? I find that there is a password for SMSCON EDITOR . what is that ? |
| 02:29.19 | DocScrutinizer | hah, 0.5s blackout. A really rare event here |
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| 02:33.05 | cehteh | 0.5sec .. the computers here usually survive that when idle .. |
| 02:33.29 | cehteh | low power cpus and cursing becasue nowadays one dont get small enough power supplies :P |
| 02:33.50 | cehteh | well recently they starting to produce 250, 300W types again |
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| 02:34.52 | cehteh | when 450W is the smallest power supply one can get then there is something wrong :/ |
| 02:36.29 | DocScrutinizer | my laptop had no problems ;-D but of course DSLmodem, router, whatnot else, all reset |
| 02:36.52 | cehteh | ah yes |
| 02:37.49 | cehteh | but really a UPS makes no sense here .. i heared more often from friends about failed UPS than i have a power outage :P |
| 02:38.02 | DocScrutinizer | still no UPS yet :-/ |
| 02:38.14 | cehteh | sometimes a reboot is a good think |
| 02:38.33 | cehteh | UPS cost .. maintenance, power ... |
| 02:39.13 | cehteh | loosing the last 5 seconds of work on a desktop hardly matters |
| 02:39.22 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |
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| 02:41.44 | DocScrutinizer | anyway I wonder what may cause a 0.5 complete blackout |
| 02:42.34 | SpeedEvil | short -> breaker |
| 02:43.13 | DocScrutinizer | when a lightning hits a high voltage power grid line, you see 0.2s mild brownouts, but I nevr seen a complete blackout |
| 02:43.24 | SpeedEvil | Or short -> upstream breaker goes along with load breaker, upstream breaker recycles |
| 02:44.06 | DocScrutinizer | that might actually be the case as it had heavy rain here in the whole region |
| 02:44.38 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.unwetterzentrale.de/uwz/bayernindex.html |
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| 02:45.34 | cehteh | software glitch switching power lines ... |
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| 02:45.54 | cehteh | or maybe some nuke plant gone BOOOM ... |
| 02:46.09 | cehteh | (or a wind turbine tripped over again) |
| 02:46.52 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, you gonna forward on your loan to another dev, then? :P |
| 02:47.25 | DocScrutinizer | if it turns out there's no hope for FOSS development then yes, sure |
| 02:48.25 | DocScrutinizer | for now I hope for meegoCE and moslo, and I still wait to see moslo actually coming. Probably another thing that gets decided by elop finally |
| 02:50.20 | cehteh | whats moslo? |
| 02:50.42 | cehteh | Mo'Slo Computer Slowdown Software |
| 02:50.47 | DocScrutinizer | an alternative or addon to NOLO, to load unsigned kernels |
| 02:50.49 | cehteh | Slows running of DOS and Windows programs that are too fast on Intel-compatible CPUs and DOS emulators. |
| 02:50.52 | cehteh | haha |
| 02:51.07 | cehteh | wp7 :P |
| 02:51.43 | cehteh | btw is gta04 doa too? i dont follow it much but it seems it got quite silent |
| 02:51.59 | DocScrutinizer | :shrug: |
| 02:52.23 | DocScrutinizer | I don't think it will become a great success story anyway, no matter what |
| 02:52.37 | cehteh | 16 Jun 2011 |
| 02:52.37 | cehteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.37 | cehteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.37 | cehteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.37 | cehteh | ah |
| 02:53.02 | DocScrutinizer | heh |
| 02:53.05 | cehteh | well no, but its a landmark when openmoko and its initial hardware wont die |
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| 02:53.23 | cehteh | hey and thats the first phone platform with a hardware upgrade path |
| 02:53.33 | DocScrutinizer | note this is *completely* unrelated to Openmoko |
| 02:53.39 | cehteh | if i had seen that coming i wouldnt have buyed a n900 |
| 02:54.01 | cehteh | well as unrelated as some people and spirits ended there (ok others moved along) |
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| 02:54.37 | cehteh | in any case its a good thing when they make progress |
| 02:54.49 | DocScrutinizer | sure |
| 02:55.17 | cehteh | maybe some of our chinese friends could build a new batch of cases :P |
| 02:55.28 | DocScrutinizer | but the number of devies out in the wild will never reach any significant 3 digits number |
| 02:55.41 | cehteh | well it need some .. display, touchscreen and other hardware parts |
| 02:55.43 | DocScrutinizer | so even sw devels might ignore the whole platform |
| 02:56.09 | cehteh | yeah it was nice when announced but meanwhile its underspeced too |
| 02:56.27 | cehteh | things are just so slow .. and prolly it will be way to expensive |
| 02:57.16 | DocScrutinizer | you bet it will, for case and display alone yu shell out >200⬠for a new GTA02 |
| 02:57.53 | DocScrutinizer | the concept is doomed to fail |
| 02:58.09 | hiemanshu | trumee: nope, no dealing with customs, DHL does it for you, but yeah, that adds an extra day to your shipping time :P |
| 02:58.14 | DocScrutinizer | at least for any MP |
| 02:58.32 | hiemanshu | hey DocScrutinizer |
| 02:58.33 | cehteh | what do you expect the gta04 motherboard to cost? 250� |
| 02:58.46 | DocScrutinizer | sounds reasonable |
| 02:59.10 | cehteh | so for someone who has a device and wants a upgrade its reasonable |
| 02:59.23 | cehteh | not cheap but cheaper than a n9 ..and definately more fun |
| 02:59.46 | DocScrutinizer | not really - at least if you hate the poor quality of the touchpanel as much as I do |
| 03:00.04 | cehteh | if you have to buy a new case .. maybe even used then this looks worse of course |
| 03:00.11 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, probably more fun than N9 anyway |
| 03:00.13 | cehteh | i never had one :P |
| 03:01.33 | cehteh | well .. i think time will come and some other vendor will try a open concept |
| 03:02.05 | cehteh | the n900 wasnt really a fail economucally for nokia, everyone told me they sold more than they expected |
| 03:02.29 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 03:02.31 | cehteh | the fail was only their lack of support and direction |
| 03:02.54 | DocScrutinizer | and RMA ;-) |
| 03:03.08 | cehteh | by trying the same as apple does they will only be second or less after apple |
| 03:03.14 | lofty306 | and that damned usb port |
| 03:03.37 | cehteh | are there really numbers about the usb port? how much devices failed? |
| 03:03.46 | cehteh | 0.01% ? 1%? ... |
| 03:04.09 | cehteh | i mean people who experience that are louder than satisfied people where it doesnt fail |
| 03:04.09 | DocScrutinizer | I'd guess 10 rather than 1 |
| 03:04.15 | DocScrutinizer | maybe more |
| 03:04.27 | cehteh | anyways that shouldnt happen |
| 03:05.04 | cehteh | and well its kindof open secret that the n900 was a mere prototype/engineering sample which got marketized |
| 03:05.25 | cehteh | still not bad i like it |
| 03:05.54 | DocScrutinizer | that number about 10% fail rate counts in the dead modems etc though |
| 03:06.53 | cehteh | i didnt expect such a high number |
| 03:07.02 | cehteh | prolly i should care more for mine :P |
| 03:07.23 | cehteh | fix usb port before it breaks ... |
| 03:07.34 | DocScrutinizer | and it's mere handwaving and straight from my a... |
| 03:08.05 | cehteh | well i really think its too biased towards the loud complaining users |
| 03:08.23 | cehteh | see here in the channel where about 400 ppl some time ago |
| 03:08.24 | lofty306 | i saw some eppoxied it to the board but havent heard if it helped it from snapping off |
| 03:08.38 | DocScrutinizer | I think a 2..5% are _normal_ for any such device |
| 03:08.43 | cehteh | and we had maybe a handful people who told about the broken usb |
| 03:08.56 | DocScrutinizer | lofty306: don't do that |
| 03:08.59 | cehteh | epoxy alone will not help |
| 03:09.00 | DocScrutinizer | it doesn |
| 03:09.04 | DocScrutinizer | t help at all |
| 03:09.08 | lofty306 | im not gonna |
| 03:09.35 | lofty306 | i figged it would maybe etch the traces or something |
| 03:10.31 | cehteh | not really .. epoxy neither glues to to the metal of the socket nor to the solder-stop-paint of the PCB |
| 03:10.40 | cehteh | it only soaks into the socket, clogging it |
| 03:11.27 | lofty306 | what is the repair? refloat the board? use actual solder instead of surface mount paste? |
| 03:11.29 | cehteh | i am trained plastics worker, i know how i could fix it with epoxy .. but there is a easier way to enforce the soldering |
| 03:11.37 | cehteh | no need to refloat |
| 03:11.52 | lofty306 | good |
| 03:12.14 | lofty306 | that scares me everytime i have done it to something |
| 03:12.36 | cehteh | there are ground planes beneath the socket .. deisolate them and solder the socket there |
| 03:12.53 | cehteh | there are pictures on tmo |
| 03:13.00 | lofty306 | cool |
| 03:13.06 | cehteh | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=547991#post547991 |
| 03:13.21 | cehteh | (looks a bit ugly soldered :P) |
| 03:14.14 | lofty306 | no uglier than structural welding |
| 03:14.19 | lofty306 | :P |
| 03:14.50 | cehteh | lol |
| 03:15.20 | cehteh | also learned brazing :) ... |
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| 03:16.24 | lofty306 | thnx for the link |
| 03:17.04 | cehteh | should take a nap... |
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| 03:20.11 | iluminator101 | where in folder camera in n900 when i plug it to my pc |
| 03:20.40 | Evanescence | iluminator101: maybe .camera |
| 03:21.10 | cehteh | DCIM |
| 03:21.30 | iluminator101 | thank cehteh |
| 03:21.33 | iluminator101 | thanks cehteh |
| 03:22.19 | cehteh | for extra fun you can sshfs you@your-server.org: DCIM :) |
| 03:23.38 | lofty306 | ha |
| 03:29.01 | cehteh | cu |
| 03:36.06 | lofty306 | cya cehteh |
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| 03:54.08 | fusi | should really turn off these emails from my ids, its getting rater annoying.. |
| 04:28.01 | lofty306 | hehe |
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| 09:05.33 | cityLights | hi all |
| 09:06.01 | cityLights | since starting this new work, I had no time to continue developping |
| 09:06.26 | cityLights | I still change my phone to gsm at work, then to dual at home |
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| 09:06.41 | cityLights | wish the phone would do it , by itself |
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| 10:02.22 | DocScrutinizer | ~moo |
| 10:02.22 | infobot | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
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| 10:06.45 | lardman | SpeedEvil: lol |
| 10:06.55 | lardman | thanks for that link :) |
| 10:09.00 | chem|st | ~striptease |
| 10:09.00 | infobot | Hoogah Hoogah wah wah *takes of the box* *dances around showing of the cpu and memory* Ah yeah you likey my little HD no? |
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| 11:04.46 | chem|st | http://video.linux.com/video/2127 |
| 11:04.50 | chem|st | HAppy Birthday |
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| 11:19.19 | ruskie | hmm anyone have anything nice to say about the WeTab ? |
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| 11:20.34 | chem|st | ruskie: depends on your measure of "nice" |
| 11:20.54 | ruskie | well for me the top nice thing would be an always innovating touchbook v2 |
| 11:21.06 | ruskie | being able to hack it as much as I'd like |
| 11:21.16 | ruskie | having a ridiculous amount of autonomy |
| 11:21.19 | ruskie | and such like |
| 11:21.37 | chem|st | well then I guess wetab is closest I know yet |
| 11:21.57 | ruskie | well wetab2 claims 6 hours autonomy |
| 11:22.14 | ruskie | and it's an atom system :( |
| 11:22.19 | chem|st | there are laptops with more... |
| 11:22.32 | chem|st | atom is fine with me |
| 11:22.41 | ruskie | I'd prefer to go away from the broken x86 arch |
| 11:22.57 | chem|st | have a atom netbook and with custom kernel build got it down to 10W |
| 11:23.28 | chem|st | that is something many people would love to but still its the market |
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| 11:24.31 | ruskie | something like asus eeepad transformer would be nice |
| 11:25.52 | chem|st | something like n950 in a bit larger scale (few cm more) and with a proper touchscreen |
| 11:26.11 | ruskie | I'm looking more for 10" |
| 11:26.20 | ruskie | don't plan on running around with it really |
| 11:26.20 | chem|st | make it even 10" |
| 11:26.25 | ruskie | just something to have at home really |
| 11:26.33 | chem|st | I am waiting for samsun TX100 |
| 11:26.46 | ruskie | and I want it hackable... |
| 11:27.00 | ruskie | this is why the touchbook looks nice to me |
| 11:27.17 | ruskie | usb ports to extend it, crapton of battery, 4 oses with live switching between them |
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| 11:27.53 | ruskie | hmm asus has something in the pipline as well... asus eeepad slider |
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| 11:32.11 | ruskie | hmm how about the viewpad? |
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| 11:34.23 | ruskie | a friend suggested acer a500 iconia tab |
| 11:50.42 | kerio | openpandora! |
| 11:50.55 | ruskie | kerio, don't want a gaming device |
| 11:51.19 | kerio | it's not a gaming device! |
| 11:51.32 | ruskie | and it is rather tiny? |
| 11:51.45 | kerio | size doesn't matter |
| 11:52.11 | ruskie | it does when you already have f... up eyes |
| 11:53.15 | kerio | none of the devices you mentioned are proper nerd toys |
| 11:54.09 | ruskie | touchbook v2 |
| 11:55.55 | kerio | anything with android is not a proper nerd toy |
| 11:56.30 | ruskie | have you looked at it? |
| 11:57.07 | robbiethe1st | Nokia N900 |
| 11:57.11 | robbiethe1st | Oh wait... |
| 11:57.28 | robbiethe1st | On this channel, you guys know all about that <_< |
| 11:57.51 | ruskie | it has: own os, 'droid, chromeos, meego, ubuntu |
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| 12:47.08 | kama | do you know where i can find "pnatd" sources? |
| 12:47.54 | SpeedEvil | I'm 92.6% sure it's not open |
| 12:49.25 | kama | thank you |
| 12:49.33 | kama | and thank you nokia |
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| 12:50.10 | thomic | kama: it's like osso-backup |
| 12:50.21 | thomic | only good when it's crappy closed -.- |
| 12:50.51 | kama | :/ |
| 12:58.55 | scoobertron | I am working on a script for my n900 and I need to choose a random file from a directory. Usually I would use 'shuf' for this, but it doesn't seem to be available. Can anyone think of an alternative |
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| 13:01.42 | jonwil | Could always port shuf to the n900 :P |
| 13:05.37 | DocScrutinizer | scoobertron: zenity |
| 13:06.03 | ccooke | scoobertron: is your script shell? |
| 13:06.39 | DocScrutinizer | or, if you want to go for shell only, maybe you could exploit mc with tweaked config files / user menues |
| 13:07.05 | DocScrutinizer | never heard of shuf though |
| 13:07.11 | ccooke | If you just need to pick a random file from a directory, in shell, there are builtins that do the job perfectly well |
| 13:07.22 | ccooke | DocScrutinizer: think "shuffle" |
| 13:07.38 | scoobertron | Its ok, I have found a way using sed. It is a random wallpaper changing script to be run by alarmed. |
| 13:08.27 | DocScrutinizer | haha, nice "app" |
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| 13:09.33 | ccooke | scoobertron: if none of the files will have spaces in, you can do it with: 'files=( $(ls) ); echo "${files[$(( $RANDOM % ${#files[@]} ))]}"' |
| 13:10.20 | DocScrutinizer | if you'd use a *proper* shell (like bash ;-D) you could use select |
| 13:10.27 | ccooke | it likely doesn't matter if it's just a wallpaper selector, but the builtin method will be much faster :-) |
| 13:10.37 | ccooke | DocScrutinizer: select wouldn't do the right thing :-) |
| 13:10.48 | DocScrutinizer | ooh, why not? |
| 13:11.32 | ccooke | DocScrutinizer: because they asked for a random thing from a list of things, not a user-selected thing from a list of things :-) |
| 13:11.55 | DocScrutinizer | sorry, you lost me |
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| 13:12.11 | ccooke | DocScrutinizer: select will print a set of items for the user to choose |
| 13:12.20 | DocScrutinizer | orly? |
| 13:12.43 | ccooke | DocScrutinizer: the question as posed was to randomly choose one item from a set of items |
| 13:13.10 | DocScrutinizer | *sigh* |
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| 13:17.15 | e-bob | hi |
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| 13:18.40 | e-bob | anyone found out how to gain space on the rootfs ? |
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| 13:19.13 | e-bob | because its getting full easily :s then you are stuck with update and app dl |
| 13:19.14 | e-bob | :s |
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| 13:22.03 | jonwil | oh well, looks like my plan to figure out the encryption used for password protected osso-backup backups is a bust :P |
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| 13:26.17 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
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| 13:26.29 | SpeedEvil | e-bob: / is on a 256M device |
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| 13:26.36 | SpeedEvil | e-bob: you can't expand this device simply |
| 13:27.02 | SpeedEvil | But usually if you're asking that question, you're doing it wrong. |
| 13:27.22 | DocScrutinizer | scoobertron: numitems=$(ls -l *.txt|wc -l); ls -l *.txt | head -n $((RANDOM % numitems + 1)) | tail -n 1 |
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| 13:29.02 | DocScrutinizer | scoobertron: adapt the ls -l part to your liking |
| 13:30.06 | DocScrutinizer | scoobertron: maybe you want to use *.wallpaper rather than *.txt ;-) |
| 13:30.45 | DocScrutinizer | ~tell e-bob about optification |
| 13:30.52 | SpeedEvil | echo |awk 'BEGIN{srand(systime());print ARGV[int(rand()*ARGC)];exit}' |
| 13:31.00 | SpeedEvil | err - without the echo |
| 13:31.02 | e-bob | SpeedEvil: ubi0:rootfs 100% uses / |
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| 13:33.41 | DocScrutinizer | e-bob: note that you're not only "stuck" but frequently in for a nice bootloop when rootfs really fills up to 100% and nothing gets freed for deleted files by garbage collection on next boot |
| 13:33.49 | scoobertron | cool, thanks. I have it working now. Annoyingly though, I am using the portrait desktop thing, and if it is in portrait mode, the wallpaper gets cut off. If anyone knows a way to tell the script if the phone is in portrait mode that would be handy. |
| 13:34.15 | DocScrutinizer | errr |
| 13:34.38 | DocScrutinizer | setting a wallpaper shouldn't depend on orientation, no? |
| 13:35.39 | scoobertron | it seems to be an issue with the portrait desktop support. The wallpaper is set in landscape mode, but the phone is in portrait, meaning the bottom is cut off. (if that makes sense) |
| 13:35.47 | ccooke | DocScrutinizer: it does. The wallpaper is drawn from (IIRC) the top left corner, and extends along the orientation-dependant "horizontal" axis |
| 13:35.52 | scoobertron | I wonder if it works if the wallpaper is 800x800 |
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| 13:36.19 | scoobertron | (it is a solid colour so it doesn't matter if it doesn't join up properly) |
| 13:36.33 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: |
| 13:36.34 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# awk 'BEGIN{srand(systime());print ARGV[int(rand()*ARGC)];exit}' A B C |
| 13:36.36 | DocScrutinizer | awk |
| 13:36.41 | DocScrutinizer | :-P |
| 13:38.07 | DocScrutinizer | s/int(rand()*ARGC)/int(rand()*ARGC)+1/. |
| 13:40.49 | DocScrutinizer | scoobertron: I bet that's some bug with wallpapers |
| 13:41.01 | scoobertron | ....answering my own question. No, it makes no difference. |
| 13:41.17 | DocScrutinizer | scoobertron: does it "fix itself" when you rotate to landscape and back? |
| 13:41.48 | scoobertron | DocScrutinizer: I believe a fix is in the pipeline. Nope, it stays broken when you rotate it back. |
| 13:42.18 | DocScrutinizer | then the set_wallpaper() function - whatever it is - is buggy |
| 13:43.19 | DocScrutinizer | you'll have to force display to landscape before calling set_wallpaper(), then go back to previous aroentation after setting new wallpaper |
| 13:43.44 | scoobertron | ah, that would work. how would I do that? |
| 13:43.54 | DocScrutinizer | s/aroe/orie/ |
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| 13:44.47 | DocScrutinizer | ask MohammadAG about orientation lock and how to "remote-control" it |
| 13:45.39 | rm_work | i'd like to ask about how to control orientation lock AT ALL. |
| 13:45.52 | rm_work | the line i tried in my QML didn't work :( |
| 13:46.10 | scoobertron | ah right, sorry. the script runs in the background, I don't call it. |
| 13:46.27 | DocScrutinizer | rm_work: you're aware there's not really OOTB portrait support in m5? |
| 13:46.41 | frals | rm_work: Page { orientationLock: PageOrientation.LockPortrait } |
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| 13:46.58 | frals | at least for qtcomponents... ;o |
| 13:47.18 | rm_work | m5? |
| 13:47.31 | rm_work | oh, maemo 5 |
| 13:47.47 | rm_work | sorry i'm referring to harmattan :P (dropped in right at the end of your convo) |
| 13:48.02 | DocScrutinizer | and the portrait support in CSSU afaik is x11 based |
| 13:48.09 | rm_work | frals: hrm mine was like portraitLock: true |
| 13:48.22 | rm_work | i think... it was a checkbox on the window in the designer |
| 13:48.33 | rm_work | i don't have the code in front of me currently |
| 13:48.53 | DocScrutinizer | rm_work: mhm, how would we do that on fremantle/m5? |
| 13:49.00 | rm_work | no idea |
| 13:49.07 | rm_work | it doesn't even work in m6 |
| 13:49.09 | rm_work | :P |
| 13:49.13 | DocScrutinizer | so why do you ask about it here then? |
| 13:49.20 | rm_work | erm |
| 13:49.31 | rm_work | because this is the maemo channel, and harmattan is still maemo? |
| 13:49.48 | rm_work | like i said, i dropped in at the very end of your convo so i had to infer |
| 13:49.51 | DocScrutinizer | afaik it's meego-harmattan |
| 13:50.01 | rm_work | is there even QML for m5? |
| 13:50.32 | DocScrutinizer | now that's a better question for here :-D |
| 13:50.38 | rm_work | lol |
| 13:51.02 | rm_work | you're really dead-set on banning harmattan talk here and moving it to #harmattan aren't you |
| 13:51.45 | rm_work | AIUI harmattan is still maemo, so saying just "Maemo" refers to both ;) |
| 13:51.47 | DocScrutinizer | it gets friggin confusing when users drp by here asking harmattan questions without considering completely different context |
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| 13:53.19 | DocScrutinizer | here are at very least 126 users that can't answer your questions or even make sense of them |
| 13:53.49 | DocScrutinizer | probably way more |
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| 13:54.08 | rm_work | well, for about the third time, i only got the very end of that convo |
| 13:54.15 | rm_work | just made a comment i thought was semi-related |
| 13:54.25 | DocScrutinizer | np :-D |
| 13:55.03 | DocScrutinizer | just trying to explain why I'm "dead-set" :-) |
| 13:55.20 | scoobertron | Answering my own question, in case anyone cares - you can request the phone orientation with dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.get_device_orientation |
| 13:55.40 | DocScrutinizer | scoobertron: not really |
| 13:56.09 | DocScrutinizer | that's physical orientation, not user-screen-orientation, afaik |
| 13:57.24 | DocScrutinizer | unless this call always returns "landscape" for stock fremantle, modulo dialer is in portrait mode and on top |
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| 13:59.06 | scoobertron | That is true. So it stops the script running if I am holding the phone in portrait, but it fails if it is sat on a table portrait mode. |
| 13:59.41 | DocScrutinizer | aiui, you need a app screen to get X11 orientation, then check for dimensions.x > dimensions.y |
| 14:01.11 | DocScrutinizer | maybe there are better ways to get X11 notion of screen dimensions, without opening an app screen |
| 14:01.32 | DocScrutinizer | no idea about that, not my domain |
| 14:01.34 | scoobertron | xrandr would be nice, but doesn't seem to be in the repos |
| 14:01.52 | DocScrutinizer | :sigh: yes, indeed |
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| 14:20.42 | scoobertron | wmctrl is in the repos, and wmctrl -d gives the dimensions of the desktop. |
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| 14:22.07 | nicofs | does anyone round here know how i can create my own easydeb image? |
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| 14:42.05 | vi__ | yo |
| 14:43.21 | vi__ | hello? |
| 14:43.39 | vi__ | where are the positions of the homescreeen widgets kept? |
| 14:44.21 | vi__ | i.e. if I had an identical set of weidgets oin one screen that I wanted to duplicate on another, what file/s would I copy/edit? |
| 14:44.29 | mgedmin | gconf? |
| 14:44.32 | mgedmin | I don't really remember |
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| 14:44.43 | mgedmin | you can have at most one copy of a widget on the home screens |
| 14:45.05 | mgedmin | e.g. you can't have the same widget repeated on 1st and 2nd screens |
| 14:45.13 | vi__ | except in the case of widgets with multi instatntiation properties |
| 14:45.19 | mgedmin | although some applets allow that, yes |
| 14:45.28 | vi__ | queen beecon widget for example |
| 14:45.40 | vi__ | (however you could argue it is still the 'same widget') |
| 14:45.57 | vi__ | anyway I am not here to argue |
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| 15:01.14 | MohammadAG | <DocScrutinizer> and the portrait support in CSSU afaik is x11 based |
| 15:01.21 | MohammadAG | xrandr? no |
| 15:02.34 | cehteh | it wont be nokia if they used standard available features for that :P |
| 15:03.58 | cehteh | besides xrander wouldnt allow this flipping transition but the screen would flicker |
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| 15:07.59 | valdyn | beside that xrandr support like that would defenitely be alot harder to implement |
| 15:09.59 | valdyn | MohammadAG: does that proprietary gfx driver support xrandr? |
| 15:10.10 | MohammadAG | yes |
| 15:10.19 | valdyn | neat, so it might be.. |
| 15:11.13 | MohammadAG | <cehteh> besides xrander wouldnt allow this flipping transition but the screen would flicker <-- indeed |
| 15:11.21 | valdyn | umm |
| 15:11.32 | valdyn | its a composited desktop |
| 15:11.49 | valdyn | doesnt need to flicker |
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| 15:28.04 | scoobertron | Out of interest, will my phone notify me when cssu updates, or should I hang out here more regularly? |
| 15:31.30 | Jaffa | scoobertron: It will notify you |
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| 16:02.14 | DocScrutinizer | now finally -> mtd_debug --help; for e.g. backup-menu |
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| 16:02.51 | DocScrutinizer | also for backup of CAL etc |
| 16:03.06 | DocScrutinizer | seems like the appropriate tol for that |
| 16:03.09 | DocScrutinizer | tool* |
| 16:03.31 | scoobertron | I recently installed the enhanced lockscreen package. I saw online that it was supposed to be customizable. does anyone know how? |
| 16:04.29 | Jaffa | GAN900: Done the first stage of mid-week issue creation |
| 16:04.37 | Jaffa | scoobertron: Code? |
| 16:08.58 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# mtd_debug read /dev/mtd1ro 0 393216 CAL-backup.bin |
| 16:09.00 | DocScrutinizer | Copied 393216 bytes from address 0x00000000 in flash to CAL-backup.bin |
| 16:10.25 | DocScrutinizer | darn, I should create an app out of this ;-P |
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| 17:03.50 | roundyz | hello |
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| 17:04.39 | roundyz | I have a problem with my n900. how do I move 15GB worth of files from /usr/home to my PC? |
| 17:05.20 | SpeedEvil | rm |
| 17:05.21 | SpeedEvil | oh |
| 17:05.24 | SpeedEvil | rsync |
| 17:06.12 | SpeedEvil | cat syncphotos |
| 17:06.12 | SpeedEvil | #!/bin/bash |
| 17:06.12 | SpeedEvil | rsync phone://home/user/MyDocs/DCIM/* . |
| 17:06.13 | roundyz | I cant get onto the device through networking, sshd is screwed. |
| 17:06.16 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 17:06.27 | SpeedEvil | Uninstall sshd, reinstall |
| 17:06.34 | roundyz | tinysmb is broken too. |
| 17:06.50 | roundyz | I think the networking stack or an important lib is screwed. |
| 17:07.06 | roundyz | libcelt |
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| 17:08.19 | roundyz | I do apt-get upgrade openssh, it complains about libcelt0-0, libgsm1 and libjack0. |
| 17:08.49 | roundyz | jack is sound. |
| 17:08.53 | SpeedEvil | I'd remove openssh and then install |
| 17:08.58 | SpeedEvil | jack? |
| 17:09.04 | SpeedEvil | I diddn't think the n900 had jack |
| 17:09.23 | roundyz | gsm1 is speech compressor |
| 17:12.03 | DocScrutinizer | roundyz: sounds all very odd. Try using USB mass storage mode |
| 17:12.14 | DocScrutinizer | ooops ~user |
| 17:12.46 | DocScrutinizer | honestly? I'd reflash COMBINED I guess |
| 17:13.15 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: |
| 17:13.33 | DocScrutinizer | now finally -> mtd_debug --help; for e.g. backup-menu |
| 17:13.54 | roundyz | I can't use mass storage, as MyDocs is only 2 gig the rest is /home/user |
| 17:13.59 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# mtd_debug read /dev/mtd1ro 0 393216 CAL-backup.bin |
| 17:14.00 | DocScrutinizer | Copied 393216 bytes from address 0x00000000 in flash to CAL-backup.bin |
| 17:14.35 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: see what I did? :-D |
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| 17:20.14 | MohammadAG | yeah, new flasher does that, or something like that :P |
| 17:21.43 | DocScrutinizer | no, mtd_debug does this |
| 17:23.15 | roundyz | I fixed the problem with apt now...reinstalled openssh server |
| 17:23.28 | DocScrutinizer | so I write back a backup of my CAL partition any time with mtd_debug write 0 393216 CAL-backup.bin |
| 17:23.33 | roundyz | is kernel-power good/bad? |
| 17:23.39 | DocScrutinizer | err |
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| 17:41.51 | mgedmin | roundyz, /home is 2 GB, so you can't possibly have 15 GB of data in there! |
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| 17:42.24 | mgedmin | /home/user/MyDocs is the 28 GB VFAT partition that you can access over USB mass storage |
| 17:42.44 | roundyz | mgedmin: Not true, My MyDocs is 2GB and my home is 28GB |
| 17:42.51 | roundyz | I swapped them over. |
| 17:42.57 | mgedmin | oh, you hacker you :) |
| 17:43.04 | roundyz | lol |
| 17:43.08 | ruskie | lol |
| 17:43.50 | mgedmin | to what extent is networking screwed? |
| 17:43.57 | mgedmin | can you reach websites via microb, e.g.? |
| 17:44.10 | roundyz | well, I can use microb...just not ssh, smb... |
| 17:44.13 | mgedmin | can you ping anything from your device? |
| 17:44.26 | mgedmin | ssh -- is it sshd, or also ssh client that's screwed? |
| 17:44.48 | roundyz | yerh I can ping... |
| 17:45.01 | roundyz | defaul gw seems fine too |
| 17:46.12 | roundyz | /etc/resolv only has 127.0.0.1 in there though.. |
| 17:46.34 | roundyz | and I can't ping my laptop my ip. |
| 17:47.28 | ruskie | sounds like you don't have working network then |
| 17:48.00 | roundyz | I can connect to my server using it's external IP , but not the internal one... |
| 17:48.04 | roundyz | Strannnggg. |
| 17:48.43 | ruskie | then you aren't on your local wifi |
| 17:48.57 | roundyz | but I am |
| 17:49.04 | ruskie | then your local wifi is broken |
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| 17:50.31 | ruskie | or restricted to only redirect out |
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| 17:50.46 | roundyz | trying in tablet mode npow |
| 17:51.27 | ruskie | in what mode were you? |
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| 17:51.36 | DocScrutinizer | roundyz /etc/resolv always has 127.0.0.1 |
| 17:51.54 | ruskie | ow yeah |
| 17:52.01 | ruskie | forgot it's using that stupid dnsmasq thing |
| 17:52.50 | DocScrutinizer | if you can ping your PC IP, you also can ssh to it, so you also can scp to it |
| 17:53.20 | DocScrutinizer | ooh you can't |
| 17:53.32 | DocScrutinizer | might be a AP / router issue |
| 17:53.51 | scoobertron | out of interest, does anyone know if it is possible to remove the statusbar altogether from the homescreen? |
| 17:54.02 | DocScrutinizer | or dhcp failed to hand a lease to N900 |
| 17:54.48 | DocScrutinizer | scoobertron: wouldn't that quite semi-brick your system? |
| 17:55.12 | roundyz | brb going ot have to try to reboot router |
| 17:55.26 | mgedmin | I've had weeeird wifi-related problems |
| 17:55.41 | mgedmin | laptop can't ping my n900 when both are on the same wifi network |
| 17:55.48 | mgedmin | I can ssh into my router and ping n900 there |
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| 17:56.17 | DocScrutinizer | some routers forbid local-loopback |
| 17:56.18 | mgedmin | router is running openwrt, maybe something bad happened to hostapd? I'm not clueful enough |
| 17:56.38 | mgedmin | router at work -- same hardware, slightly older openwrt version -- everything works fine |
| 17:56.44 | mgedmin | a month ago everything worked fine at home too |
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| 17:56.48 | mgedmin | time to reboot router maybe? |
| 17:56.57 | DocScrutinizer | well, that's just for reaching router's own public IP |
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| 17:57.17 | DocScrutinizer | (loopback) |
| 17:57.40 | scoobertron | DocScrutinizer: maybe. I can access the menu and the task switcher with the hardware buttons, and info about signal etc can be got through widgets. I am doing a bit of a homescreen overhaul, and I resent giving up a slot of screen space just for a tiny bar that contains one button and my battery icon. |
| 17:57.56 | scoobertron | and cell signal |
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| 17:58.16 | roundyz | OK rebooted router |
| 17:58.26 | roundyz | rebooting phone too |
| 17:58.38 | DocScrutinizer | scoobertron: I see your rationale but widgets aren't guaranteed to be there |
| 17:59.03 | scoobertron | ah, so if something went wrong I could be in trouble... |
| 17:59.15 | DocScrutinizer | and I don't see how you reach sysmenu via kbd shortcut :-D |
| 18:00.16 | scoobertron | I meant the application menu - I admit that the sysmenu would be a challenge |
| 18:00.20 | scoobertron | :) |
| 18:00.22 | roundyz | Thank the lord!!!! Its back!!! |
| 18:00.41 | roundyz | Perhaps I cursed myself with that daring wallpaper of Bree Olson.... |
| 18:00.42 | mgedmin | <it_crowd>Have you tried turning it off and on again?</it_crowd> |
| 18:00.57 | roundyz | mgedmin: ;) |
| 18:01.32 | roundyz | time to move over the files now I think.. |
| 18:01.53 | mgedmin | incidentally, usb networking might be faster |
| 18:02.06 | roundyz | good point... |
| 18:02.18 | mgedmin | if you select 'PC Suite' mode after plugging a cable, your laptop should find a USB Ethernet device |
| 18:02.20 | roundyz | pcsuite mode for that then.. |
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| 18:07.15 | kerio | roundyz: reflash |
| 18:07.28 | Sicelo | that command looks neat DocScrutinizer. what is CAL? |
| 18:08.09 | DocScrutinizer | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=20465 |
| 18:08.41 | Sicelo | thanks. i have been googling, but didn't find that |
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| 18:10.21 | DocScrutinizer | funny as the thread is called "What is CAL" |
| 18:11.37 | DocScrutinizer | Sicelo: I guess you also could save and restore kernels this way |
| 18:12.11 | DocScrutinizer | admittedly I haven't tried it yet |
| 18:12.44 | DocScrutinizer | but hey, what a debug tool was that if it didn't know to correctly do the "write" command? |
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| 18:13.33 | Sicelo | i see my problem was adding"n900" as a keyword too |
| 18:13.57 | Sicelo | s/g"/g "/ |
| 18:14.16 | DocScrutinizer | note though that messing with kernel almost certainly will cause a bootloop if you don't exactly know your way around modules as well |
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| 18:16.45 | DocScrutinizer | while killing CAL can actually finally brick your device - maybe |
| 18:17.03 | roundyz | mgedmin: Do I just configure using ifconfig with static ips? |
| 18:17.15 | mgedmin | yes, you can do that |
| 18:17.36 | roundyz | I have just had to rebuild my kernel modules, I never compiled it when I created the kernel some time ago.. |
| 18:17.55 | mgedmin | I once wrote a shell script to launch a second copy of dnsmasq acting like a DHCP server, so that my laptop would autoconfigure on connection |
| 18:18.06 | mgedmin | because I'd rather not type complicated ifconfig lines more than once |
| 18:18.07 | mgedmin | :) |
| 18:18.16 | roundyz | good idea. |
| 18:18.55 | DocScrutinizer | hah, I got a shellscript on laptop to do the ifconfig, route, ssh magic |
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| 18:19.36 | DocScrutinizer | just forgot what's the default IP of N900 in pc-suite mode |
| 18:19.44 | DocScrutinizer | x.x.x.15? |
| 18:19.45 | mgedmin | oh, there's a default IP? |
| 18:19.51 | roundyz | normally we now have usb0 on laptop |
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| 18:20.08 | Sicelo | 192.168.2.15 |
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| 18:20.16 | DocScrutinizer | roundyz: yes, but that's your *local* NIC |
| 18:20.32 | Sicelo | 192.168.2.14 for pc side |
| 18:20.37 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |
| 18:20.45 | roundyz | I have it on n900 too. |
| 18:20.49 | Sicelo | lives on it ;) |
| 18:23.25 | roundyz | I'm in! |
| 18:23.40 | DocScrutinizer | roundyz: \o/ |
| 18:25.28 | DocScrutinizer | roundyz: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/unsorted/neo-ssh you may want to adapt for USB0 instead of eth4, and also fix the IP addresses |
| 18:26.21 | roundyz | DocScrutinizer: I might seem naive but is that ( \o/ ) an applause? |
| 18:26.40 | DocScrutinizer | yeah |
| 18:26.42 | roundyz | futhermore, was there sarcasm? |
| 18:26.45 | roundyz | ;) |
| 18:26.51 | DocScrutinizer | joy, cheers, applause |
| 18:26.58 | DocScrutinizer | not at all |
| 18:27.12 | roundyz | thanks |
| 18:28.35 | roundyz | IDK either, I just set it to 172.16.28.1 |
| 18:28.50 | roundyz | sorry was scrolled up. |
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| 18:28.53 | roundyz | please ignore |
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| 18:31.06 | DocScrutinizer | s/.0.200/.2.14/;s/.0.202/.2.15/ |
| 18:31.20 | roundyz | do I need rync on both machines for it to work? I was thinking of just using scp.. |
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| 18:31.53 | DocScrutinizer | afaik N900 auto-assigns the 192.168.2.15 to usb as soon as you start pc-suite mode |
| 18:32.20 | DocScrutinizer | well, scp or sftp is just fine for initial copy |
| 18:32.24 | mgedmin | roundyz, scp will likely be faster than rsync |
| 18:32.28 | DocScrutinizer | no benefit from rsync |
| 18:32.34 | mgedmin | if you're copying large numbers of files once |
| 18:32.39 | roundyz | ok then lads, off I go. |
| 18:32.59 | DocScrutinizer | roundyz: you even can use browser |
| 18:33.12 | DocScrutinizer | sftp://192.168.2.15 |
| 18:33.20 | DocScrutinizer | sftp://rot@192.168.2.15 |
| 18:33.30 | DocScrutinizer | damn, you know what I mean |
| 18:33.52 | roundyz | It's working now. |
| 18:33.59 | DocScrutinizer | I got bookmarks for all my devices, in konqueror |
| 18:34.00 | roundyz | DocScrutinizer: You have a user called rot? |
| 18:34.02 | roundyz | ;) |
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| 18:34.17 | DocScrutinizer | nah, but I'm considering to usradd one |
| 18:34.28 | Creteil | ~seen thopiekar |
| 18:34.35 | infobot | thopiekar <~quassel@p4FCD74A5.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 1d 22h 14m 7s ago, saying: 'after removing some apps in facebook.. at least the "Nokia N900" app and ZapLoc now chat is working again!'. |
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| 18:35.12 | DocScrutinizer | not for long obviously ;-P |
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| 18:47.39 | mgedmin | imap clients reset the "you have unread email in this folder" bit on my server |
| 18:48.03 | mgedmin | which has dovecot backed by mailbox files, so the "unread email" bit is atime != mtime |
| 18:48.10 | mgedmin | should I perhaps switch to maildirs, I wonder? |
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| 20:17.32 | Necc | Necc-N900:~# mount /dev/mmcblk1p2 /media/home/ |
| 20:17.33 | Necc | mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk1p2 on /media/home/ failed: Invalid argument |
| 20:17.37 | Necc | WHY??? |
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| 20:20.44 | Necc | i ran out of ideas... why a damn simple mount command doesn't works? |
| 20:21.04 | hiemanshu | Necc: it needs -t IIRC |
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| 20:26.10 | Necc | doesn't helps anything |
| 20:26.30 | Necc | i can not mount that stupid idiot ext3 partition |
| 20:26.45 | Necc | what i did over a half billion times in the past now simply doesn' |
| 20:26.51 | Necc | doesn't works |
| 20:26.57 | zap | monorail removes maepad, and maepad removes monorail |
| 20:27.00 | zap | is this a developer war? |
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| 20:28.40 | RST38h | afaik monorail is a problem |
| 20:28.57 | RST38h | remember installing it and getting into trouble, no maepad in sight |
| 20:29.05 | zap | yep, same here :) |
| 20:32.17 | mgedmin | Necc, grep ext3 /proc/filesystems? |
| 20:32.51 | Necc | sec, atm repartitioning the entire card... |
| 20:34.09 | Necc | it returns "ext3" |
| 20:36.38 | Necc | it doesn't mounts it because it is an ext3 partition -.- |
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| 20:41.23 | Shapeshifter | <3 command line sharing plugin |
| 20:43.39 | Shapeshifter | wooo someone packaged imagemagick |
| 20:43.54 | Shapeshifter | \o/ |
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| 20:47.36 | ruskie | Shapeshifter, would be nice if one could setup multiple accounts with it |
| 20:47.49 | ruskie | from my experimenting I could always just have a single instance |
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| 20:49.44 | Shapeshifter | ruskie: mh possible |
| 20:50.11 | Shapeshifter | well too bad the n900 is so weak. converting images on it is somewhat of a silly undertaking... |
| 20:50.45 | wam | Shapeshifter: the networking is fast ;) |
| 20:51.31 | Shapeshifter | wam: well I wrote a script that makes a thumbnail of an image passed by the cli sharing plugin and then uploads the thumb and the original but I guess I *should* be offloading the resizing task to the server... |
| 20:51.47 | wam | yeah# |
| 20:51.47 | Shapeshifter | but I'm too lazy to write a script that detects new files etc. and I don't know how to use gamin for this |
| 20:52.00 | Shapeshifter | mhh |
| 20:52.10 | Shapeshifter | well I could just run the script using ssh with the new file as target |
| 20:52.15 | Shapeshifter | that's easy. |
| 20:52.16 | ruskie | Shapeshifter, or you know you could just: ssh run commandaftertransfer |
| 20:52.20 | wam | Shapeshifter: if it has to be that easy: cronjob + shellscript + find + convert |
| 20:52.36 | ruskie | Shapeshifter, or incron |
| 20:52.41 | ruskie | instead of gamin |
| 20:53.08 | wam | or a 10-liner python script that accepts a image data stream via POST |
| 20:53.19 | Shapeshifter | wam: :< |
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| 20:54.37 | ruskie | shell script can work as well just fine ;) |
| 20:54.49 | Shapeshifter | yes |
| 20:55.05 | ruskie | does bash cgi stuff every so often |
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| 21:57.13 | vi__ | is there a magical gconf that indicates if you are connected to the net or not? |
| 21:59.38 | vi__ | or perhaps A dbus call? |
| 22:00.00 | vi__ | basically is there a foolproof way of determining if I am connected to the net from the cli? |
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