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| 01:11.59 | SpeedEvil | http://www.dealextreme.com/p/5600mah-emergency-power-rechargeable-battery-pack-w-led-flashlight-head-cell-phone-adapters-91411 |
| 01:12.00 | SpeedEvil | neat |
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| 01:26.41 | ShadowJK | and the mobile theme has broken "Quote and reply" for PMs |
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| 01:41.25 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: for me the orange "normal" theme has invisible thanks and other buttons on KDE konqueror |
| 01:42.20 | DocScrutinizer | I stopped worrying since I changed to --classic light-- >1 year ago |
| 01:43.12 | DocScrutinizer | alas classic light theme seems to miss the message history for edited messages |
| 01:44.53 | ShadowJK | classic light doesn't have quoting or preview in PM :/ |
| 01:48.26 | ShadowJK | normal would be usable if left and right columns were gone |
| 01:48.37 | ShadowJK | or if middle was allowed to reflow or scroll |
| 01:48.50 | ShadowJK | instead of getting covered by right hand menu column |
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| 03:16.37 | jonwil | hmmm, this encryption used on the N900 password protected backups smacks a lot of "security by obscurity" |
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| 06:14.11 | casketizer | can some pl help me |
| 06:14.18 | casketizer | i hosed my n900 |
| 06:14.27 | casketizer | i installed backupmenu |
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| 06:14.53 | casketizer | backupmenu works |
| 06:14.59 | Termana | good morning |
| 06:15.17 | casketizer | but if i try normal boot all i get is black screen with cock |
| 06:15.22 | casketizer | clock* |
| 06:15.31 | casketizer | mornin Termana |
| 06:16.32 | casketizer | someone please help me |
| 06:17.18 | dm8tbr | doesn't have the slightest idea what backupmenu is |
| 06:17.42 | dm8tbr | why don't you just reflash your device |
| 06:18.06 | casketizer | i hope to fix it |
| 06:18.15 | casketizer | its so much work |
| 06:18.22 | casketizer | to set up all new |
| 06:18.43 | dm8tbr | then ask the people who made this 'backupmenu'... |
| 06:19.31 | casketizer | many ppl on tmo use it |
| 06:19.41 | dm8tbr | ask on tmo? |
| 06:19.47 | casketizer | im tryin |
| 06:20.03 | dm8tbr | goes to mind his own business |
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| 06:31.26 | casketizer | robbie |
| 06:31.35 | casketizer | ure the man i need |
| 06:31.43 | casketizer | i installed backupmenu |
| 06:31.53 | casketizer | backupmenu works |
| 06:32.00 | casketizer | but if i try normal boot all i get is black screen with cock |
| 06:32.16 | casketizer | or sometimes a single widget |
| 06:32.17 | Sicelo | casketizer: i have BM, but haven't yet 'learnt its tricks'. Hang on, he's normally here e |
| 06:32.28 | casketizer | he just joined |
| 06:32.50 | Sicelo | lol, always forgetting *l* |
| 06:33.17 | casketizer | it seems hildon home or dsktop isnt loading |
| 06:33.45 | casketizer | shit |
| 06:33.58 | casketizer | this had to happen today |
| 06:34.29 | robbiethe1st | :P |
| 06:34.43 | robbiethe1st | Um |
| 06:34.55 | robbiethe1st | Make sure the optfs was restored/backed up same as the rootfs |
| 06:35.05 | robbiethe1st | You need to do both at once, generally |
| 06:35.10 | casketizer | i didnt bakup a thing |
| 06:35.23 | casketizer | i just installed bm |
| 06:35.28 | casketizer | rebooted |
| 06:35.32 | casketizer | bm works |
| 06:35.33 | robbiethe1st | And didn't restore anything through my program? Then, um... it has nothing to do with it. |
| 06:35.42 | casketizer | maemo doesnt |
| 06:35.53 | robbiethe1st | I'd try going into BM and run fsck |
| 06:36.01 | casketizer | did that |
| 06:36.09 | robbiethe1st | any errors? |
| 06:36.13 | casketizer | no |
| 06:36.24 | robbiethe1st | Hm... Got a Linux PC? |
| 06:36.28 | casketizer | no |
| 06:36.34 | robbiethe1st | Oh, ok |
| 06:36.47 | robbiethe1st | hm... I forget if I've got badblocks on there... |
| 06:36.54 | robbiethe1st | That'd be where I'd check first |
| 06:37.01 | robbiethe1st | i.e. corruption on the disk |
| 06:37.14 | casketizer | it seems hildon-home isnt started |
| 06:37.26 | casketizer | it barfs after the nokia hands |
| 06:37.40 | casketizer | hmmm |
| 06:37.57 | casketizer | now its a rebootloop after nokia hands |
| 06:38.12 | robbiethe1st | Ah, yea. Definite corruption |
| 06:38.41 | casketizer | it could be full footfs |
| 06:38.43 | robbiethe1st | That happened to me a couple times. First boot(after a reboot having not rebooted in a while) would sort of work, second wouldn |
| 06:38.56 | casketizer | i had syslog on |
| 06:39.02 | robbiethe1st | Maby, but I'd suspect OptFS corruption more than anything |
| 06:39.04 | casketizer | but yesterday was 32mb free |
| 06:39.15 | robbiethe1st | Oh. Go into BM, hit terminal mode |
| 06:39.35 | robbiethe1st | run 'mountroot', cd /tmp/mnt/rootfs, read your log and see what the issue is |
| 06:39.41 | casketizer | i cant login |
| 06:39.52 | robbiethe1st | Oh, didn't install ssh/set your password? Darn. |
| 06:40.00 | robbiethe1st | You *can* do one thing though |
| 06:40.03 | casketizer | root has ssh passwd |
| 06:40.10 | robbiethe1st | Yes |
| 06:40.15 | casketizer | but it always say wrong passwd |
| 06:40.35 | robbiethe1st | Make sure you're pressing the shift/alt+key simultaniously |
| 06:40.40 | robbiethe1st | can't press alt, then key |
| 06:40.53 | casketizer | huh? |
| 06:41.40 | robbiethe1st | Um...say you want "W". Instead of pressing "shift", releasing it, then pressing "w"(which works in maemo), you have to press both keys at the same time. |
| 06:42.23 | casketizer | check pm pls |
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| 06:43.29 | casketizer | i always get interruped before i can complete the passwd |
| 06:43.38 | casketizer | i think thats the prob |
| 06:44.25 | robbiethe1st | Hm... I dunno. In that case, go into backup mode, make a backup to SD or MyDocs. |
| 06:44.28 | robbiethe1st | backup both |
| 06:45.00 | robbiethe1st | Once it's done, you can connect the device over USB to your computer, hit "w" for usb mass storage mode, and copy your backup files over |
| 06:45.31 | robbiethe1st | They're just tar files, so you can open it and extract whatever logs you want |
| 06:46.01 | casketizer | it says login incorrect |
| 06:46.12 | casketizer | im sure i got it right tho |
| 06:46.27 | robbiethe1st | Ignore it for now. 3 wrong logins and you'll be back to the main menu |
| 06:46.49 | casketizer | yea |
| 06:47.19 | casketizer | so what can i do? |
| 06:47.40 | robbiethe1st | Ok |
| 06:47.44 | robbiethe1st | First, reboot |
| 06:47.49 | robbiethe1st | back into BM |
| 06:48.14 | robbiethe1st | Hold down the hold switch(side switch) for a second or press the reboot key |
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| 06:48.59 | thresh | hi |
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| 06:49.21 | thresh | seems like my n900 drains battery power like hell, ~20% per hour. anything to check? |
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| 06:49.52 | thresh | powertop says 540 wakeups per second :/ |
| 06:50.45 | robbiethe1st | Uh, open up htop |
| 06:53.00 | thresh | Xorg is the highest one (except htop of course) |
| 06:53.48 | robbiethe1st | waitr |
| 06:54.03 | robbiethe1st | Tap the 'time+' column |
| 06:54.12 | robbiethe1st | What's the top couple of items |
| 06:54.54 | thresh | Xorg, hildon-desktop, fmrdsnotify, hildon-status-menu, dbus-daemon, hildon-home |
| 06:55.08 | thresh | I guess I will deinstall fmrdsnotify to test |
| 06:55.49 | robbiethe1st | How much does hildon-desktop have? |
| 06:55.57 | robbiethe1st | and what's the uptime? |
| 06:56.28 | thresh | uptime is 20 minutes, hildon-desktop has 0:30.12 |
| 06:57.06 | robbiethe1st | Ok, that's fine. Xorg? |
| 06:57.35 | thresh | 0:43.80 |
| 06:57.59 | robbiethe1st | Still fairly low |
| 06:58.18 | robbiethe1st | I'd go close all programs, let the device sit for an hour or so. |
| 06:58.33 | robbiethe1st | see what's gotten really high |
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| 06:58.56 | thresh | yes, good idea. thanks! |
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| 08:29.37 | Venemo_N950 | morning |
| 08:35.27 | casketizer | does anyone know how to permanently disable display timeout in n900? |
| 08:35.36 | casketizer | i had it |
| 08:35.56 | casketizer | but i just reflashed and cant find it |
| 08:36.10 | divan | casketizer, Simple Brightness Applet? |
| 08:36.20 | casketizer | could be |
| 08:36.33 | casketizer | ill check that when installed |
| 08:38.52 | jonwil | I am getting closer to figuring out the encryption used for the osso-backup password protected backups on the N900 |
| 08:38.54 | jonwil | :) |
| 08:39.21 | jonwil | It screams "security through obscurity" to me |
| 08:39.37 | jonwil | Although the security is strong enough if the password is good |
| 08:39.42 | jonwil | since its using AES :) |
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| 08:56.38 | Venemo_N950 | do you guys know who is the man behind quassel2go? |
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| 09:28.21 | robbiethe1st | wondered what was going on: 2 xchat instances. |
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| 09:31.54 | casketizer | appman is soooooo slowwwwwwwww :P |
| 09:36.20 | robbiethe1st | Yes |
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| 09:36.26 | robbiethe1st | I use apt-get always myself |
| 09:36.34 | psychologe | you can use faster application manager |
| 09:38.19 | casketizer | i normalli use apt too |
| 09:38.29 | casketizer | or fapman |
| 09:38.37 | casketizer | doing restore atm |
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| 09:41.00 | vi__ | I see that /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/cam_focus/disable |
| 09:42.58 | thresh | lol, battery eye reports that my battery % raised in last three hours idling on the table |
| 09:43.29 | thresh | so, what does that mean? dying battery? phone was purchased in Dec 2009 |
| 09:44.05 | casketizer | magic induction table :) |
| 09:45.34 | vi__ | gets set to 1 when the device is locked |
| 09:45.35 | psychologe | vi__, i see you haha |
| 09:45.59 | vi__ | psychologe: wut? |
| 09:46.16 | kerio | thresh: you may be onto something here |
| 09:46.30 | kerio | reversing entropy is something really really hard to do |
| 09:46.47 | kerio | (also it's just bme being stupid as usual) |
| 09:46.47 | vi__ | thresh: your phone is not reverse traversing quantum space |
| 09:47.03 | vi__ | thresh: it corks out battery form voltage |
| 09:47.15 | vi__ | thresh: it is just BME being gay |
| 09:47.30 | vi__ | psychologe: WTF are you on? |
| 09:47.50 | kerio | vi__: i doubt bme is particularly happy |
| 09:48.06 | vi__ | kerio: bme is just plain shite |
| 09:48.27 | thresh | meh :( |
| 09:48.56 | kerio | why is there no replacement for it? |
| 09:53.31 | vi__ | kerio: becasue is some gay ass scam nokia bundled a whole bunch of 'IP' into it and made it a user/kernel space frankenbeast. To replace it would brake/unfix soo much stuff |
| 09:53.34 | vi__ | . |
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| 09:54.59 | vi__ | although an interesting set script of scripts have turned up on the forum (thanks to shadowjk, joerg and some others i cannot recall right now) |
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| 09:55.28 | vi__ | that could potentially be used to chuck BME. |
| 09:56.06 | jonwil | actually, if you have an algorithim for doing the charging with the low-level drivers and hardware, implementing the interface used by the other bits of the system to talk to BME isnt hard |
| 09:56.19 | jonwil | I posted some docs documenting the bits you need to implement for that somewhere |
| 09:56.23 | jonwil | on the mailing list IIRC |
| 09:56.31 | vi__ | ~dict IIRC |
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| 09:57.52 | vi__ | AFAIK the only thing missing from shadowjk charging script is a method of updating HAL as to the state of charge/battery |
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| 09:58.13 | kerio | ~wtf wtf |
| 09:58.14 | vi__ | however that is more or less irrelevant as the only thing using HAL for battery ios the battery status widget |
| 09:58.32 | vi__ | which is shit anyway |
| 09:58.38 | vi__ | and there are replacements available |
| 09:59.44 | jonwil | no, there are other things using HAL for battery |
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| 10:02.21 | vi__ | such as? |
| 10:02.59 | vi__ | that isnt replaced by the bq27xxx module |
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| 10:05.02 | edheldil | what is the preferred way to package python packages? (for n900) IIRC someone was pushing some script to do the packaging work |
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| 10:14.31 | crashanddie_ | edheldil, didn't you ask the *exact* same question yesterday? |
| 10:15.49 | jonwil | the cameraui, fmtxd, mce battery plugin, hildon-games-wrapper, libqtsysteminfo, mediaplayer, mission-control, intellisyncd, actingdead systemui plugin and battery status bar widget all rely on hald-addon-bme |
| 10:15.58 | jonwil | either the HAL or dbus interfaces that hald-addon-bme exposes |
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| 10:18.38 | wazd | Hey all |
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| 10:21.18 | cehteh | upstart is some mystery to me .. i added a new thing to event.d by copying an existing entry and giving it a new name |
| 10:21.27 | cehteh | but it doesnt get started at boot |
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| 10:21.43 | cehteh | is there anything else i need to configure to start jobs? |
| 10:29.40 | psycho_oreos | not that I would know but what if you moved the script (or copy it) to init.d and add a symlink to it from rc2.d? |
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| 10:35.32 | cehteh | psycho_oreos: event.d/ configs are quite different to init.d/ scripts, but eventually if i cant tame upstart i just do that |
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| 10:48.41 | vi__ | how come dbus call: |
| 10:48.45 | vi__ | dbus-send /com/nokia/hildon_desktop com.nokia.hildon_desktop.exit_app_view |
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| 10:49.00 | vi__ | only works once then subsequantly does nothing? |
| 10:49.39 | vi__ | it show task switcher btw |
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| 10:49.49 | vi__ | wtf is everyone? |
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| 11:00.21 | Evanescence | I try to login N900 from Notebook's ssh. but it need a password. I do not know what's the password for user or root . how to know that password ? |
| 11:01.15 | robbiethe1st | You have to set it |
| 11:01.19 | robbiethe1st | with passwd |
| 11:01.26 | robbiethe1st | on the device |
| 11:01.35 | psycho_oreos | there's no passwd for user, there is a passwd however for root |
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| 11:02.22 | psycho_oreos | in fact iirc user logins were forbidden externally, they had exclamation marks for passwd field in /etc/passwd |
| 11:03.33 | Evanescence | no passwd for user ? |
| 11:03.37 | mgedmin | yep |
| 11:04.50 | Evanescence | mgedmin: so how to login N900 user from Notebook ? |
| 11:05.07 | mgedmin | like psycho_oreos said: first open a terminal on the N900 and set the user's password with 'passwd' |
| 11:05.21 | mgedmin | I wonder if you need to be root to do that...? |
| 11:05.37 | mgedmin | hey, actually, when you install openssh-server, doesn't it pop a dialog asking you to set a user password? |
| 11:05.46 | mgedmin | it's been ages since I did that, but IIRC it did! |
| 11:05.47 | nid0 | it does |
| 11:05.49 | psycho_oreos | passwd without specifying another user doesn't require root's passwd |
| 11:05.53 | mgedmin | so the password you entered there is the password you use to login |
| 11:06.02 | mgedmin | and if you didn't install openssh-server, then you can't login remotely anyway |
| 11:06.03 | psycho_oreos | that's for root iirc |
| 11:06.09 | Evanescence | mgedmin: I remember, try it again. |
| 11:06.26 | Evanescence | I does setted one password for ssh |
| 11:06.32 | mgedmin | psycho_oreos, when you run passwd as non-root on normal linux distros it asks for your *current* password |
| 11:06.34 | psycho_oreos | well you can also install ssh-switcher? I think it has openssh-server as a dependency |
| 11:06.40 | mgedmin | so I wonder how that would work when the current password was not set |
| 11:07.14 | psycho_oreos | mgedmin, I'm pretty sure in normal circumstances it won't ask your current password if your account does not allow external login :) |
| 11:07.20 | mgedmin | anyway, psycho_oreos says openssh-server installer sets the root password, not the user password |
| 11:07.33 | mgedmin | so when you ssh to your n900 be sure you ssh to root@... |
| 11:07.34 | Evanescence | mgedmin: damn it, I tried 6 times, I am sure I forggten that ssh password .... |
| 11:08.12 | Evanescence | If i reinstall ssh-server, will it re-ask me that password ? |
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| 11:08.27 | Sicelo | no password for user by default.. you set it as root, passwd user... openssh-server needs u to set rootpasssword at install |
| 11:08.44 | Sicelo | s/ootpa/oot pa/ |
| 11:08.56 | psycho_oreos | there are other ways of changing root password without having to reinstall openssh-server |
| 11:09.14 | mgedmin | Evanescence, worst case, there's a package in extras that gives you passwordless root |
| 11:09.19 | Evanescence | Sicelo: yeah, I did. but 6 times wrong root password. |
| 11:09.20 | psycho_oreos | e.g. rootsh, gainroot, (r&d mode) |
| 11:09.24 | mgedmin | then you can reset the root passw to anything you like |
| 11:09.43 | Evanescence | psycho_oreos: let me install and try. |
| 11:10.42 | mgedmin | personally, I change 'user:!:' to 'user:*:' in /etc/passwd and then drop a /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys file for passwordless logins |
| 11:10.50 | psycho_oreos | lol maybe should try the default root passwd :D |
| 11:11.13 | mgedmin | maemo 5 didn't have a default root passwd, afair |
| 11:11.22 | psycho_oreos | it does |
| 11:12.23 | mgedmin | is not going to reflash his n900 just to prove psycho_oreos wrong |
| 11:14.13 | Evanescence | It works now, thanks, I install gainroot, and posswd root. Thanks |
| 11:15.05 | psycho_oreos | mgedmin, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo#Security <--- 1st paragraph, 3rd line :) |
| 11:15.33 | Evanescence | hi, BTW, I find that I start /usr/sbin/sshd from root. Then when I close terminal, the ssh server will be close too. why ? |
| 11:15.34 | mgedmin | interesting username |
| 11:15.40 | mgedmin | but it doesn't specify the maemo version |
| 11:15.41 | psycho_oreos | I even have the encrypted/salted root string which I once ran john on it :) same result as what wikipedia wrote |
| 11:15.45 | mgedmin | maemo 4 had root:rootme |
| 11:15.57 | mgedmin | and harmattan comes with root:rootme and openssh-server preinstalled |
| 11:16.20 | nid0 | eh |
| 11:16.20 | psycho_oreos | probably the way sshd is configured |
| 11:16.25 | mgedmin | maemo 5, otoh, came with a locked root account in the firmware image |
| 11:16.40 | nid0 | preinstalled and with a password set? tell me its not actually running by default? |
| 11:16.45 | mgedmin | which, I guess, is why openssh-server has that postinst script to set the root pwd |
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| 11:16.58 | mgedmin | nid0, on a n950? yes, it's running by default |
| 11:17.02 | nid0 | :\ |
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| 11:17.18 | mgedmin | it's a developer-only image; I suppose someone decided convenience > security |
| 11:17.30 | psycho_oreos | nice, at least saves one from installing opensshd :D |
| 11:17.42 | mgedmin | I'm pretty sure n9's final firmware image will not be like that |
| 11:17.42 | psycho_oreos | s/installing/installing and configuring/ |
| 11:20.23 | edheldil | crashanddie: I did, but haven't got any answer, as far as I was able to tell. But maybe I just have a too short history |
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| 12:08.23 | psycho_oreos | any of you guys run pk47 and are using ext3 with your microSD? for some reason on mine, even after making ext3 fs several times on N900 it just refuses to mount properly, however all the errors it showed up in dmesg does not appear to concur with the same microSD　used on a linux lappy |
| 12:09.10 | cehteh | psycho_oreos: did you fixed nokias fstab generation/mount scripts too? |
| 12:09.18 | joga | ooh...I ranted a bit earlier about not having a decent navigation prog for n900, but only yesterday I tried modRana and it seems to be what I was looking for, I really like the snappy interface with big buttons and that it can be customized easily (even downloading maps was easy) |
| 12:09.24 | cehteh | these are seriously borked and unuseable you have to work around that |
| 12:09.55 | joga | (so if someone was discouraged earlier about not finding sygic anymore, I recommend to try modRana instead) |
| 12:10.15 | cehteh | and then you may use ext4 instead its noticeably faster than ext3 (but beware, there is no ext4 in the stock kernel, in case you have to replay backups from there its a bit pita) |
| 12:10.17 | psycho_oreos | cehteh, nah haven't got to that stage, just a simple mount and it spews errors. Before it mounts the microSD but has flags 0 |
| 12:11.28 | cehteh | whats exactly the problem? |
| 12:11.33 | psycho_oreos | I'm thinking there's something wrong with the pins on my microSD bay on N900 itself. With another microSD　card reader (microSD -> USB)　the microSD　works perfectly fine |
| 12:11.56 | cehteh | could happen some µSD seem to be incompatible |
| 12:12.02 | cehteh | rarely but happens |
| 12:12.26 | cehteh | note that there are quite some different protocols which can go over the SD bus |
| 12:12.28 | psycho_oreos | I can't get N900 to mount my microSD　(which was formatted as ext3), it just spews up errors about corrupt fs |
| 12:12.43 | cehteh | did you mkfs on the device? |
| 12:12.48 | psycho_oreos | hmm it works fine if the microSD has raw/no fs |
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| 12:13.09 | psycho_oreos | yeah I did, several times, and after each successful attempt at mkfs, I　tried mounting, they all come up with errors |
| 12:13.17 | cehteh | then you did something wrong .. did you partition the sd card? |
| 12:13.37 | cehteh | hey or did you got a cheap fake china SD card ;P |
| 12:13.43 | psycho_oreos | yeah did that, created one big 32GB partition |
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| 12:14.16 | cehteh | sdxc card? |
| 12:14.16 | psycho_oreos | nope, this microSD card was bought legitimately from a reputable store in Taiwan, and I've tested it already with FFF, so its not a fake :) |
| 12:14.20 | psycho_oreos | no |
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| 12:14.28 | cehteh | FFF? |
| 12:14.35 | psycho_oreos | fight flash fraud |
| 12:14.48 | psycho_oreos | actually I meant to say I think the actual name of the tool was called h2 or something |
| 12:14.53 | psycho_oreos | err f2 |
| 12:15.06 | cehteh | dunno about that |
| 12:15.28 | cehteh | there are some quite clever fakes cards |
| 12:15.35 | psycho_oreos | lol I suck:　http://oss.digirati.com.br/f3/ |
| 12:15.44 | cehteh | if you make a 1GB partition, does that work then? |
| 12:15.58 | psycho_oreos | hmm I　could give that a shot |
| 12:16.39 | cehteh | i'd try that rather than the tool |
| 12:16.46 | cehteh | maybe only a 256MB partition |
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| 12:18.30 | psycho_oreos | I've not seen much clever fake cards personally :) I'm sure they can't lie to f3 imo |
| 12:19.11 | cehteh | possibly |
| 12:19.39 | cehteh | but well either the card fails or you do something wrong .. |
| 12:20.40 | cehteh | usually this are user errors from my experience .. but with so much crapware SD cards around it would be possible that the card is the problem |
| 12:21.17 | cehteh | besides the n900 'officially' only supports up to 16GB, when it was released 32GB wherent available |
| 12:21.32 | cehteh | (but i heared about people successfully using 32GB cards) |
| 12:21.42 | psycho_oreos | I　sort of wouldn't hope it would be card's fault after sinking in some good money on the second one after thoroughly testing out the first one that they weren't lying on capacities |
| 12:22.03 | psycho_oreos | heh the irony is that I'm using 32GB card |
| 12:22.17 | psycho_oreos | s/testing/tested/ |
| 12:23.15 | cehteh | well no idea then, SD cards have quite some delicate timing specs and some cheap ones fail that and are then unreliable or plainly broken |
| 12:23.31 | cehteh | even if not fraud, just bad quality |
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| 12:24.02 | psycho_oreos | or it could be a frail microSD port ;) like that microUSB socket |
| 12:24.12 | cehteh | so there is not only fraud with boosted capacities but also with bad controlers and buggy firmware |
| 12:24.26 | cehteh | i doubt that, try another card |
| 12:24.55 | cehteh | well check that you inserted it correctly |
| 12:25.17 | cehteh | (contacts are clean, no moisture, finger grease) |
| 12:25.35 | cehteh | and locked the latch |
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| 12:26.09 | psycho_oreos | humm, looks like its user error so far...*facepalms self* |
| 12:26.19 | cehteh | you have the back cover put back on? .. you know that removing back cover will trigger a umount? |
| 12:26.25 | cehteh | haha |
| 12:26.32 | psycho_oreos | yeah I know and did all that |
| 12:26.40 | cehteh | what was wrong? |
| 12:26.50 | psycho_oreos | I think my error was trying to mount /dev/mmcblk1 instead of /dev/mmcblk1p1 |
| 12:26.57 | cehteh | lol |
| 12:27.29 | cehteh | a friend of me once trashed his server by mkswap on the /home partition :P |
| 12:27.29 | psycho_oreos | though I noticed that after mounting ext3 I still get 0 as options |
| 12:27.38 | psycho_oreos | lol ouch |
| 12:28.07 | psycho_oreos | I'd bet he would've had fun recovering the remnants of his data |
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| 12:28.29 | cehteh | actually he just installed it anew without data :P |
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| 12:29.07 | psycho_oreos | what, no data in his /home? well he's lucky then :) |
| 12:30.13 | cehteh | nah, just admit everything is lost without trying to recover |
| 12:30.27 | psycho_oreos | lol |
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| 12:31.43 | psycho_oreos | I've done something similar like that (actually by far on an actual scale) awhile back, something that makes me shake my head and frown when recalling it |
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| 12:32.22 | admiral0 | hi |
| 12:32.31 | psycho_oreos | ih |
| 12:32.42 | admiral0 | is there a way to setup scratchbox + kdevelop + cmake? |
| 12:32.59 | admiral0 | i see no way to set cmake executable |
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| 12:35.08 | psycho_oreos | *shrugs* beats me |
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| 12:47.04 | jonwil | is still trying to figure out the osso-backup password protected backup encryption... |
| 12:48.01 | flux | joga, unzip didn't do it for you? |
| 12:49.48 | jonwil | I have identified that its using AES encryption |
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| 12:52.14 | mgedmin | flux, it seems osso-backup doesn't use zip passwords; it encrypts the whole zip file |
| 12:53.06 | jonwil | yes it does |
| 12:53.11 | jonwil | it uses AES encryption to do so |
| 12:53.14 | jonwil | with some extra bits |
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| 12:58.14 | RST38h | Borders kaput! |
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| 12:59.59 | jonwil | what do you mean borders kaput? |
| 13:00.42 | jonwil | oh I see now |
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| 13:15.47 | flux | mgedmin, tried gpg then? |
| 13:16.06 | mgedmin | talk to jonwil, it's his backup |
| 13:16.29 | jonwil | defo not GPG or anything I have seen |
| 13:16.42 | jonwil | and I am only doing it beccause I am interesting in figuring it out and documenting it for the community |
| 13:16.46 | jonwil | not because I need it myself |
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| 13:16.57 | jonwil | :P) |
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| 13:16.59 | jonwil | :) |
| 13:17.07 | RST38h | Device sent! |
| 13:17.11 | RST38h | Yooohooo |
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| 13:17.41 | jonwil | nice one :P |
| 13:17.54 | jonwil | Lets hope these N950s are going to people who genuinely deserve them |
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| 13:22.38 | pavi | https://bugs.maemo.org/ has a bug in itself . It is unable to generate a graphical report . was showing abroken image |
| 13:22.51 | pavi | The table report works |
| 13:22.59 | pavi | Has anyone noticed it ? |
| 13:23.23 | pavi | https://bugs.maemo.org/report.cgi?y_axis_field=bug_status&cumulate=0&z_axis_field=&format=bar&x_axis_field=classification&query_format=report-graph&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Documentation&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&longdesc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&e |
| 13:23.23 | pavi | mailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&action=wrap&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= |
| 13:23.37 | pavi | oops should have used link shortener . |
| 13:24.07 | pavi | http://bit.ly/o6zB3t |
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| 13:27.01 | jonwil | bah, this code is too complex, I cant figure it out :( |
| 13:28.45 | RST38h | Anyone found the Google+ URL for iPhones etc? |
| 13:32.53 | andre__ | pavi: bugs.maemo.org has a Bugzilla component, however unlikely to invest and fix... |
| 13:33.02 | andre__ | s/invest/investigate |
| 13:33.31 | pavi | ohh will report it there |
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| 14:16.28 | khuong | admiral0 |
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| 14:16.51 | admiral0 | hi khuong |
| 14:17.13 | khuong | good morning |
| 14:17.44 | khuong | I need to go out and grab some breakfast |
| 14:17.48 | admiral0 | ok |
| 14:17.54 | admiral0 | i'll be waiting |
| 14:18.46 | khuong | was you able to compile the code? |
| 14:19.47 | admiral0 | yep |
| 14:19.50 | admiral0 | easy |
| 14:19.59 | admiral0 | i switched to cmake though |
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| 14:26.11 | khuong | nice, I may have sometime to start on the callerx-ui today, hopefully |
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| 14:31.18 | Evanescence | what is SMS ? |
| 14:31.30 | crashanddie_ | Evanescence, sorry? |
| 14:31.32 | neal | I disabled the proxy on my n900, but running import gconf; gconf.client_get_default().get_bool('/system/http_proxy/use_http_proxy') in Python still returns true. Is this a bug? Do I have to reboot to change the proxy settings? |
| 14:31.36 | crashanddie_ | Evanescence, text messages? |
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| 14:32.05 | Evanescence | crashanddie_: I find one app's name is SMSON, I want to know what does it used for ? |
| 14:32.23 | crashanddie_ | read the description? |
| 14:32.26 | Evanescence | crashanddie_: just text message ? |
| 14:32.31 | Evanescence | crashanddie_: ok |
| 14:32.35 | crashanddie_ | smscon? |
| 14:32.41 | Evanescence | crashanddie_: but the desc is so short.... |
| 14:32.53 | Evanescence | crashanddie_: yes, smscon |
| 14:33.10 | crashanddie_ | ~smscon |
| 14:33.28 | crashanddie_ | ~smscon is http://wiki.maemo.org/SMSCON |
| 14:33.28 | infobot | okay, crashanddie_ |
| 14:34.00 | Evanescence | thx |
| 14:34.04 | crashanddie_ | ~tell Evanescence about smscon |
| 14:34.30 | Evanescence | ~you |
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| 14:49.12 | RST38h | A random WP7 developer blog: http://blog.lumalilt.com/ |
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| 14:49.33 | RST38h | (WARNING: severe eyesight hazard) |
| 14:51.37 | Venemo | RST38h, lol |
| 14:52.34 | FIQ|n900 | reminds me of the acid1 test |
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| 15:21.26 | SpeedEvil | does not understand why he doesn't get old texts in a nice rapid queue when the phone is turned on. |
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| 16:27.46 | khuong | admiral0 |
| 16:27.59 | khuong | you there? |
| 16:28.02 | admiral0 | yep |
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| 16:30.31 | SpeedEvil | lardman: http://s.dealextreme.com/search/2277 |
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| 16:36.59 | lcuk | SpeedEvil, i don't know which to applaude |
| 16:37.02 | lcuk | the fact that exists |
| 16:37.12 | lcuk | or that there are 6 customer reviews for it |
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| 16:37.27 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 16:38.26 | lcuk | Pros |
| 16:38.26 | lcuk | :looks like pork |
| 16:38.26 | lcuk | Cons: |
| 16:38.27 | lcuk | doesnt taste like pork |
| 16:38.35 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 16:39.16 | ShadowJK | lol |
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| 16:40.38 | khuong | having connection problem? |
| 16:42.18 | admiral0 | khuong: no, it's intel driver segfaulting X11 |
| 16:42.36 | admiral0 | fix is there, too busy to compile it |
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| 17:01.52 | ludens | can anyone recommend add-ons for speeding up MicroB. i have only adblockplus, considering noscript |
| 17:02.24 | ludens | but i recall someone mentioning an add-on to improve memory handling or startup... |
| 17:02.58 | ThreeM | you cannot improve with a plugin |
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| 17:05.47 | ludens | i agree it sounds weird |
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| 17:06.23 | ludens | lets just say it was smth that was supposed to speed it up. and it was mentioned by someone in here |
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| 17:11.40 | Robot101 | what's the best way to get my N900 calendar synced to Google? |
| 17:11.48 | Robot101 | ideally bidirectional but even a one-off would be fine |
| 17:13.56 | ruskie | Robot101, mail for exchange? |
| 17:14.17 | Robot101 | is that a "I think this should work", or a "this works for me"? |
| 17:14.30 | obcecado | mail for exchange works |
| 17:14.37 | obcecado | bidirectional |
| 17:16.52 | ruskie | I think |
| 17:17.00 | ruskie | nover used it since I removed it |
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| 17:19.36 | Creteil | ~seen thopiekar |
| 17:19.52 | infobot | thopiekar <~quassel@p4FCD74A5.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 20h 59m 24s ago, saying: 'after removing some apps in facebook.. at least the "Nokia N900" app and ZapLoc now chat is working again!'. |
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| 17:39.17 | piggz | how can i take a screenshot on the n900, in portrait mode? |
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| 17:41.11 | Choom | don't slide it open all the way |
| 17:41.43 | cehteh | how do you take a screenshot on the n900? :) |
| 17:42.07 | Choom | control+shift+P |
| 17:42.19 | cehteh | ah :) |
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| 17:50.41 | mgedmin | ssh + some command-line screenshot tool could maybe work too |
| 17:51.05 | Choom | and so can the console with a sleep X && scrot |
| 17:51.16 | Choom | (assuming there's a port of scrot for the N900) |
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| 18:26.05 | MohammadAG | so, my N900 drops finally paid off, I have better tactile feedback, the whole screen part goes in on pressing it |
| 18:26.30 | MohammadAG | plus the keyboard border thing is a bit loose, so the keys have an extra press sound in them |
| 18:27.43 | kerio | MohammadAG: haha |
| 18:27.46 | kerio | sell it as a kit |
| 18:28.37 | GeneralAntilles | Does anybody else find Android's settings format entirely too confusing? |
| 18:28.38 | mgedmin | keep it for spare parts |
| 18:28.47 | MohammadAG | why? it works fine :P |
| 18:28.53 | MohammadAG | just has better feedback :p |
| 18:29.14 | MohammadAG | my N950 hasn't shipped yet :/ |
| 18:29.34 | Choom | mine's still in new condition |
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| 18:29.41 | Choom | except for the corners, which are rather worn off |
| 18:29.53 | Choom | due to friction inside my pockets |
| 18:29.53 | hiemanshu | MohammadAG: mine is sitting here :D |
| 18:30.00 | MohammadAG | look-wise, it's new here too |
| 18:30.18 | MohammadAG | needs his screwdriver set to tighten a few screens |
| 18:32.03 | CaCO3 | MohammadAG: Same to me :( still on NEW ORDER |
| 18:32.44 | CaCO3 | It seems there havent been many send out in the last few working days, according to the wiki... |
| 18:32.53 | hiemanshu | MohammadAG: FYI, Mine took 4 business days to arrive |
| 18:34.25 | MohammadAG | hiemanshu, mine's on fucking new order |
| 18:34.48 | hiemanshu | MohammadAG: I had to email to get some movement on mine, try doing that? |
| 18:34.52 | MohammadAG | my order should ship tomorrow according to order numbering |
| 18:35.05 | hiemanshu | they dont care about the numbering |
| 18:35.44 | MohammadAG | what's the email? |
| 18:36.56 | hiemanshu | ddp.program@ |
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| 18:42.03 | piggz | Choom: cheers, i'll try it |
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| 18:48.16 | fusi | n900: only 'phone' id dream of doing dev on |
| 18:48.37 | loft306 | heh |
| 18:48.38 | fusi | well, i do and i love it <3 xD |
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| 19:14.54 | unixSnob | meh.. n900 only supports one sim.. screw that! |
| 19:15.43 | casketizer | is it possible to use dpkg option --force-overwrite in apt-get ? or is there an equivalent option? |
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| 19:16.47 | unixSnob | casketizer: you can force a version |
| 19:16.58 | casketizer | nah |
| 19:17.21 | casketizer | pcket conflicts with other packet but its just two icon files |
| 19:17.46 | casketizer | i can dl and dpkg -i --force-overwrite |
| 19:18.04 | casketizer | i wanted to know if i can skip the manual dl |
| 19:18.21 | casketizer | and tell apt-get to force overwrite |
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| 19:44.31 | thomic | :) - the Nokia Support is a really funny department - if you don't have to deal with 'em! |
| 19:45.49 | thomic | they're no more N900 left in stock - and no spare parts - so they offer you an N8 or E7 or ... say you can wait. Because they're trying to rebuy N900s from dealers stocks :D |
| 19:46.39 | thomic | i can really imagine how the dealers feel who are in that very well position :) - good price for that rare product i think |
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| 19:51.31 | andre__ | heh. sounds like I should resell some of my N900s. :-P |
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| 19:53.50 | thomic | :) |
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| 20:03.47 | trumee | hiemanshu, did you have to deal with customs? |
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| 20:44.41 | _trine | how much are the N950's selling for |
| 20:45.26 | Mek | they are not and will not be sold |
| 20:45.50 | Mek | (and if somebody loses it it will cos tthem 500 euros, so I suppose they would sell for at least that if you find them on the black market :P) |
| 20:46.03 | _trine | well how do devs get them |
| 20:46.11 | Mece | magic |
| 20:46.15 | Mek | DHL |
| 20:46.27 | _trine | and I wonder how the aluminium body affects the wifi antennas |
| 20:46.30 | Mece | magic + dhl = n950 |
| 20:46.43 | _trine | oh i am sorry |
| 20:46.45 | Mece | _trine, wifi works fine on mine |
| 20:47.00 | _trine | I forgot for a moment I was on the school boy channel |
| 20:47.09 | Mece | it has plasticky ends |
| 20:47.19 | Mek | I think the ends of the body on the bottom are plastic, not aluminium |
| 20:47.53 | Mece | _trine, well I got mine through meego community developer device program |
| 20:48.30 | _trine | can anyone apply and I guess it was not free |
| 20:48.45 | Mek | yeah, there were at least 3 programs where they were given away. the meego community one, Qt Ambassadors could apply, and the even bigger developer.nokia.com program |
| 20:48.48 | Mek | and yes, it was free |
| 20:48.55 | Mek | but all deadlines to apply are closed by now afaik |
| 20:49.07 | _trine | ah thanks for the info |
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| 20:51.11 | _trine | do you have to give them back at some point? I ask because you said you would have to pay 500E if anyone lost it |
| 20:51.24 | _trine | because how would they know you had lost it |
| 20:51.58 | Mece | _trine, you only have to pay if they actually ask for them back |
| 20:52.18 | _trine | which I would not think they would |
| 20:52.32 | Mece | _trine, unless you tell them and want a new one i suppose. |
| 20:52.34 | _trine | they look nice |
| 20:52.44 | Mece | _trine, it's unlikely. |
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| 20:52.59 | _trine | i like the idea of a metal body |
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| 20:53.15 | _trine | and a keyboard |
| 20:53.15 | Mece | _trine, well I like the ui most of all.. |
| 20:53.30 | _trine | which the N9 does not have |
| 20:53.35 | Mece | nod |
| 20:54.09 | _trine | the N9 is in my opinion set to be a flop |
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| 20:54.22 | _trine | the n950 is better |
| 20:55.47 | casketizer | yea |
| 20:55.59 | casketizer | id buy n950 but n9 no thx |
| 20:56.15 | casketizer | irc on vkb = epic fail |
| 21:00.29 | casketizer | also no flash and crapkit based browser |
| 21:00.43 | casketizer | but n950 has that too ofc |
| 21:01.55 | casketizer | has anyone tried if the oracle java works in harmattan? |
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| 22:54.09 | tralalalalo | i am fcked |
| 22:54.23 | tralalalalo | calling doesnt work |
| 22:54.31 | tralalalalo | tested sim on diferent phone |
| 22:54.33 | tralalalalo | np |
| 22:54.44 | tralalalalo | co its something wrong with n900 |
| 22:55.25 | tralalalalo | it gives me calling menu ... writing calling but nothing happens |
| 22:58.35 | tralalalalo | SMS ... pushing button send ... nothing happens |
| 23:02.26 | NIN101 | Is the NAND touched when I use "flasher -l -k ... -b"? |
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| 23:04.11 | NIN101 | as far as I understand, the kernel is just loaded into RAM, so it shouldn't, right? |
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| 23:06.48 | jadamcze | running gdb on my n900, looking for a simpler breakdown of cpsr flags than I'm getting from "info registers" - any suggestions? (including more appropriate channels for the question) |
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| 23:09.46 | kerio | jadamcze: stop doing that and go skiing |
| 23:09.56 | kerio | or go swimming, it's probably better, given the heat |
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