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| 00:42.39 | Termana | good morning |
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| 01:25.14 | ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer, they're talking about your app: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1021955 |
| 01:25.33 | DocScrutinizer | my app? |
| 01:27.47 | balrog-k1n | hi there, i've added a bunch of markers in Mappero / maemo-mapper. how do i save them to a gpx now? |
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| 01:33.18 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: thanks |
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| 01:49.58 | balrog-k1n | hmm, i added a new Mark with "insert mark..." and now it appears in a <desc> element in the gpx |
| 01:50.19 | balrog-k1n | so what happened to all the earlier marks i added? |
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| 03:23.56 | GAN900 | "If You Don't Have An iPhone" commercials are mindnumbingly irritating. |
| 03:24.41 | moofree | * commercials are mindnumbingly irritating |
| 03:25.55 | GAN900 | Well, yeah. |
| 03:25.59 | GAN900 | But specifically. |
| 03:26.13 | moofree | i haven't seen them :P |
| 03:26.29 | moofree | there are certain advantages to downloading all the shows i watch |
| 03:26.32 | moofree | no commericals |
| 03:28.48 | GAN900 | Only thing I watch on TV are sports. |
| 03:28.55 | moofree | ew |
| 03:29.02 | moofree | that's one thing i specifically try not to watch :) |
| 03:29.09 | moofree | it's just one big commercial |
| 03:29.12 | GAN900 | Meh |
| 03:29.18 | moofree | i love when i attend a sporting event in real life |
| 03:29.24 | moofree | and they have timeouts just to run commercials for t |
| 03:29.24 | moofree | v |
| 03:29.33 | GAN900 | Gotta pay for it somehow. |
| 03:29.38 | moofree | lol |
| 03:30.01 | GAN900 | Commercials are the reality of not living in a communist hell. |
| 03:30.17 | GAN900 | North Korean doesn't have any advertising. :P |
| 03:31.25 | moofree | one of the original selling points of cable television was no commercials |
| 03:31.32 | moofree | ah the promises of the future |
| 03:31.50 | moofree | commercial free television, moon bases, food in pill form, flying cars |
| 03:31.59 | moofree | meego phones |
| 03:32.02 | moofree | etc.. :P |
| 03:32.12 | GAN900 | It's all a matter of patience. |
| 03:32.30 | GAN900 | "Just wait a little longer." |
| 03:32.46 | moofree | "any time now!" |
| 03:34.36 | GAN900 | The one thing MeeGo actually took from Nokia that they really shouldn't have. |
| 03:35.50 | myuu | lol meego |
| 03:35.54 | myuu | oh hey |
| 03:35.58 | myuu | actually nvm |
| 03:38.19 | moofree | amigaone x1000! |
| 03:38.25 | moofree | available by the end of 2010 |
| 03:38.38 | moofree | i can't wait |
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| 03:49.27 | dotCOMmie | I had a problem where my phone would reboot a minute or less after loading desktop. I disabled lifeguard-reset with flash tool and now phone is running ok. And I think I see the underlaying problem |
| 03:50.12 | dotCOMmie | Modest sent an alert about an incomming email and it seems to be stuck in some queue |
| 03:50.50 | dotCOMmie | The notice keeps opening and closing even after I killall on modest |
| 03:51.26 | dotCOMmie | I guess this causes the hildon-desktop to perform suboptimally and the watchdog restarts the phone |
| 03:51.41 | dotCOMmie | Is there a way to clear the notification queue? |
| 03:52.40 | dotCOMmie | oh also as a result my desktop doesn't show any icons on it |
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| 03:57.00 | mikhas | GAN900, after seeing some sports here on US TV, I cannot help but think that US sports were *designed* around commercials ... |
| 03:57.32 | GeneralAntilles | mikhas, I nearly fell asleep at the futbol game in Dublin. |
| 03:57.59 | mikhas | ha |
| 03:58.12 | GeneralAntilles | European sports really don't do it for me. |
| 03:59.01 | mikhas | At least "futbol" doesnt have those frickin timeouts =p |
| 03:59.33 | mikhas | GeneralAntilles, but the mavericks did an amazing job so far at making basketball interesting for me |
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| 03:59.49 | mikhas | (despite the commercials) |
| 04:00.04 | GeneralAntilles | Basketball's problem is that the game result is largely dependent upon the whims of the refs. |
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| 04:00.37 | mikhas | with my limited experience, I cannot comment on that |
| 04:01.38 | GeneralAntilles | Same with hockey |
| 04:01.41 | GeneralAntilles | and baseball. |
| 04:01.56 | GeneralAntilles | US Football is the one sport where the play-calling is somewhat clean. |
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| 04:20.48 | myuu | you guys im experiencing crashes with skype video calls |
| 04:21.44 | cehteh | sometimes |
| 04:22.03 | cehteh | well crashes what? .. the phone call disconnects? |
| 04:22.12 | cehteh | not the whole os |
| 04:22.23 | myuu | yeah |
| 04:22.28 | myuu | sorry i should be more specific |
| 04:22.39 | myuu | the phone call hangs up as soon as I start my video |
| 04:22.49 | myuu | I can see others video and have a voice convo |
| 04:23.37 | cehteh | nah not that, i have sometimes complete disconnects or very stuttery connections |
| 04:23.59 | cehteh | video over GSM just doesnt work |
| 04:24.24 | cehteh | umts maybe .. wlan works most of the time, but i use video chat rarely |
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| 04:33.32 | myuu | oh it doesnt work over gsm |
| 04:33.33 | myuu | ? |
| 04:34.07 | myuu | that should be obv lol |
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| 05:13.11 | myuu | oh my camera issue might not even be skype related |
| 05:13.17 | myuu | my camera just shows a black screen |
| 05:15.11 | SpeedEvil | shutter? |
| 05:16.55 | myuu | front and back I think |
| 05:18.46 | myuu | fcam drivers were the problem |
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| 08:04.48 | khertan | Morning |
| 08:04.49 | khertan | http://tinyurl.com/n950available |
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| 08:11.46 | dm8tbr | khertan: cool a KIRF |
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| 08:51.42 | Sicelo | QWERT keyboard |
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| 10:13.48 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 10:29.39 | Dhraakellian | wonders if it's possible to make Marble/Monav avoid highways |
| 10:30.16 | RST38h | wondersif it's possible to make Marble avoid hanging the N900 for several minutes at a time |
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| 10:37.11 | Dhraakellian | methinks monav's routing is... odd |
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| 11:02.57 | jacekowski | methinks that it's slow |
| 11:03.24 | jacekowski | as in i would route faster with analogue map + stopping every time i wasn't sure where to go |
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| 11:47.27 | sq-one | hey where maemo stores the favorites of the internet browser? |
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| 12:00.29 | sq-one | Okay I figured out they're stored in /home/user/.bookmarks/MyBookmarks.xml but if I delete an entry there manually it is still present on the phone. |
| 12:01.00 | sq-one | I have to add, that the bookmark is not removable via UI-interaction on the phone |
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| 12:05.39 | sq-one | okay after /etc/init.d/minireboot the undeletable bookmark is gone :) |
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| 12:10.02 | goiboi | hi |
| 12:10.25 | goiboi | thanks jani |
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| 15:09.00 | Necc | why the new cssu has to offer ISO800/1600 why?? x.x |
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| 15:37.01 | Macer | hey |
| 15:37.10 | Macer | anybody know a good app to measure distance when jogging? |
| 15:37.21 | GAN900 | eCoach |
| 15:37.31 | Macer | awesome. let me check it out |
| 15:39.30 | Macer | ugh |
| 15:39.38 | Macer | why must installing apps in maemo be like pulling teeth :) |
| 15:39.48 | Macer | waits for it to update catalogs |
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| 16:47.23 | frals | Macer: thats why you use apt-get instead ;) |
| 16:48.15 | Macer | haha |
| 16:48.18 | Macer | it was too late |
| 16:48.23 | Macer | i already had it going and was committed :) |
| 16:48.33 | Macer | ecoach is pretty awesome tho |
| 16:48.42 | Macer | i just ran 2 1/2 miles to test it out |
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| 17:02.20 | Catface | ~hi |
| 17:02.20 | infobot | hello, catface |
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| 17:09.54 | DocScrutinizer | moo javispedro |
| 17:11.20 | DocScrutinizer | 2.5miles in <60min - hey |
| 17:11.20 | javispedro | moo |
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| 17:24.12 | myuu | Macer at least use fast app manager |
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| 17:34.17 | hiemanshu | so to compile apps for maemo you need to setup the scratchbox env? |
| 17:34.56 | hiemanshu | I need to compile opencv for something, I dont want to setup the whole thing now, is there a way to compile it on the phone? |
| 17:39.06 | trx | yes but you need to install dev packages and build essentials |
| 17:39.13 | trx | etc |
| 17:39.25 | trx | its faster to setup scratchbox |
| 17:42.15 | hiemanshu | ah cool, I'll do that then |
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| 18:12.49 | Ikarus | anyone here using Sharing plugin for linux |
| 18:13.11 | Ikarus | err |
| 18:13.13 | Ikarus | lol |
| 18:13.21 | Ikarus | anyone here using Sharing plugin for Twitter |
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| 18:16.06 | DocScrutinizer | plugin to where? |
| 18:16.22 | DocScrutinizer | (not that I'd use anything related to twitter) |
| 18:17.27 | DocScrutinizer | talking about twitter: what became of #nokia obscure threat on twitter (or was it facebook?) to do *something* on June 1st |
| 18:17.35 | DocScrutinizer | ? |
| 18:17.49 | vldcnst | mass suicide |
| 18:17.53 | DocScrutinizer | \o/ |
| 18:18.42 | acecool | . |
| 18:18.43 | Ikarus | DocScrutinizer: it's a sharing plugin like the share on faebook etc |
| 18:18.59 | Ikarus | but the setup a account crashes |
| 18:19.53 | DocScrutinizer | still nfc where to plug it in - microb, modest, conversations, you PC's firewire port? |
| 18:20.26 | DocScrutinizer | nm, I don't care |
| 18:20.35 | vldcnst | (his answer: I don't have a firewire port) |
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| 18:21.26 | DocScrutinizer | vldcnst: that's why I've chosen firewire and not USB |
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| 18:21.59 | DocScrutinizer | would guess "conversations" |
| 18:22.24 | DocScrutinizer | figured it while writing |
| 18:22.38 | vldcnst | twitter is for uncool people |
| 18:23.32 | DocScrutinizer | I'll never get the catch of twitter, and facebook just earned the "I'm top of EVIL" award - google cried about losing it |
| 18:23.48 | jacekowski | i had a breakfast today |
| 18:23.55 | jacekowski | i just had a shit |
| 18:23.56 | vldcnst | I see facebook as a money making machine |
| 18:24.11 | jacekowski | and other kind of shit like that |
| 18:24.17 | DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: I think that's related to twitter, right? |
| 18:24.18 | jacekowski | it's for exhibitionists |
| 18:24.25 | jacekowski | DocScrutinizer: yes |
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| 18:25.53 | vldcnst | you have the biggest cluster of "GONNA PAY ANOTHER 1$ TO SEE WHATS BEHIND THIS SECRET SCRATCH AND MAYBE I GET A NICE PRIZE" kind of people |
| 18:26.41 | vldcnst | like seriously, "scratch & win" 75,242 monthly active users |
| 18:27.44 | DocScrutinizer | we got a official lottery in Germany "Lotto" - commonly attributed as "special tax for idiots" |
| 18:28.01 | hiemanshu | I am too lazy to setup the SDK right now |
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| 18:28.18 | hiemanshu | goes to download the VM |
| 18:28.28 | DocScrutinizer | good idea |
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| 18:28.49 | hiemanshu | yeah, more over I have fedora |
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| 18:28.59 | DocScrutinizer | there's also MADDE - aiui strictly for Qt GUI stuff |
| 18:29.30 | DocScrutinizer | allegedly easier that ScareBox |
| 18:29.38 | hiemanshu | I just wanna compile opencv |
| 18:29.40 | DocScrutinizer | than* |
| 18:30.41 | DocScrutinizer | ponders to finally set up SB on his centOS box |
| 18:31.23 | DocScrutinizer | this way I don't need to run this monster at my own flat and local IT infra ;-P |
| 18:32.18 | DocScrutinizer | alas this vbox has as little as 30GB storage, so I doubt SB will go easy there |
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| 18:53.03 | javispedro | opencv = sbox |
| 18:53.04 | javispedro | but |
| 18:53.10 | javispedro | I believe opencv is on extras already. |
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| 18:54.48 | DocScrutinizer | ls -l /media/mmc1/core-dumps |pastebinit -- -->http://pastebin.com/BbYDLah8 |
| 18:54.53 | DocScrutinizer | :-D |
| 18:56.11 | GAN900 | autography.us.com |
| 18:56.17 | GAN900 | Guy just did a demo for me. |
| 18:56.19 | GAN900 | Awesome. |
| 18:56.41 | GAN900 | Signed ebooks. |
| 18:57.10 | javispedro | waits for e-Signed e-Books |
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| 18:58.46 | DocScrutinizer | wants to kick asses at Logitech - the interim mouse can't click MMB without also emitting a scrollwheel-up :-((( |
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| 18:59.03 | DocScrutinizer | no I recall why I "binned" it |
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| 18:59.40 | GAN900 | I miss the MX Revolution |
| 18:59.53 | GAN900 | That clutched scroll wheel was the greatest thing ever made |
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| 19:00.34 | DocScrutinizer | I damn fsckng have a disassembled MX rev just gere in front of me, switches are all going to act up |
| 19:00.44 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |
| 19:01.08 | licensed | it haves any good gps software for maemo? like ndrive, igo.. |
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| 19:01.56 | DocScrutinizer | what's "GPS sw"? there's quite some nice navi/map and also a few mere GPS-reader |
| 19:02.19 | DocScrutinizer | check out marble, mappero |
| 19:02.37 | licensed | i like any with voice navigation.. i will to try these |
| 19:02.38 | DocScrutinizer | heard columbus is nice ;-D |
| 19:02.41 | licensed | thank you =D |
| 19:02.57 | DocScrutinizer | mappero and marble both have voice navi now |
| 19:03.22 | DocScrutinizer | marbe even has on-board route calculation |
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| 19:03.56 | Necc | and witch one of them functions fully offline? |
| 19:04.09 | DocScrutinizer | marble |
| 19:04.25 | Necc | hmmm i may try it out |
| 19:04.45 | licensed | yes i need fully offline functions.. i will to try this |
| 19:05.15 | DocScrutinizer | see Monav |
| 19:05.48 | DocScrutinizer | "Marble Onboard NAVigation" ? |
| 19:07.57 | DocScrutinizer | all those apps usually load map tiles dynamically from internet. You'll have to use the map-dl functions to "install" the map tiles you need during offline |
| 19:09.03 | SpeedEvil | Also - note that if you're using openstreetmap - if you're downloading tiles from the server, pick the smallest area you can at the lowest resolution - the servers are on donated bandwidth. |
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| 19:12.41 | NIN101 | Well, I hope some of you guys could tell me what at the hell this is. So, I'm sniffing right now phonet0, the GSM interface. Everyrtime I open the slide on my N900, some stuff is send to the GSM network. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8w2kmMXz I censored some stuff because I do not know what it means, so maybe you could use it to get some information about me :-) But it is always the same. So yes, this is send when I open the keyboard slide, b |
| 19:12.41 | NIN101 | ut not always: If you do it fast multiple times, it won't happen. You have to wait a little bit. However, it seams to be not only connected to the slide. It is send when the screen turns on, or off, but then it is 0100 instead of 020a. Probably nothing anyway, but interesting for me. |
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| 19:15.45 | SpeedEvil | NIN101: the signal sterngth of the cellphone changes singificantly. |
| 19:15.55 | SpeedEvil | When you open the slide. |
| 19:16.00 | SpeedEvil | The cellmo will report this |
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| 19:22.05 | NIN101 | ok thx. Was also one of my assumptions, but anyway, couldn't it be used in theory by my provider to track a little bit of my activities(if and when am I using the phone or it is always just in my pocket)? |
| 19:23.23 | SpeedEvil | The signal changes. |
| 19:23.30 | SpeedEvil | It's not changing in a predictable way |
| 19:23.44 | SpeedEvil | It changes at ohter times |
| 19:24.00 | NIN101 | hmm, true. |
| 19:24.11 | trx | signal only matters to the tower afaik, it doesnt go further than that in the cell network |
| 19:24.40 | trx | so they can't/won't be able to record that info |
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| 19:27.30 | DocScrutinizer | basically they can record all info, question is to which purpose |
| 19:28.22 | DocScrutinizer | the old FAQ: "I want to use internet, but my provider shouldn't be able to notice when I do" ;-P |
| 19:28.45 | trx | haha |
| 19:28.51 | trx | yeah, good luck with that :P |
| 19:29.12 | DocScrutinizer | "I want to do phonecalls, but my telco mustn't spy on me about when and to whom I call" |
| 19:29.24 | trx | :D |
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| 19:32.03 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: you know there's a wireshark plugin to dissect the ISI packets on phonet IF? |
| 19:32.18 | DocScrutinizer | most of them at least |
| 19:34.02 | NIN101 | Sounds interesting, I will look into it. Thx. |
| 19:34.08 | DocScrutinizer | yw |
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| 19:51.02 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=isi-wireshark-plugin.git;a=summary mrmoku branch |
| 19:51.23 | NIN101 | hmm, i compiled this https://git.ring0.de/isi-wireshark-plugin/ |
| 19:52.18 | NIN101 | ok the plugin you linked seams to have an SMS dissector, which the one I found does not have. |
| 19:53.41 | DocScrutinizer | Jun 04 19:35:32 <DocScrutinizer> mrmoku: where's the most evolved ISI dissector plugin for wireshark? |
| 19:53.43 | DocScrutinizer | Jun 04 19:41:49 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: the most evolved one probably is mine ;) |
| 19:53.44 | DocScrutinizer | Jun 04 19:42:12 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=isi-wireshark-plugin.git;a=summary |
| 19:53.46 | DocScrutinizer | Jun 04 19:42:15 <mrmoku> mrmoku branch |
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| 19:54.27 | RST38h | moos evilly |
| 19:54.58 | NIN101 | ok. Then I will just compile mrmoku's plugin. Thx doc. |
| 19:55.05 | DocScrutinizer | feeds RST38h a corncob |
| 19:55.14 | DocScrutinizer | NIN101: yw |
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| 21:14.56 | Venemo | hey |
| 21:15.00 | pronto | hey |
| 21:15.13 | Venemo | has the issue with the codecs package been resolved? |
| 21:15.18 | pronto | no clue |
| 21:15.40 | Venemo | I'm talking about the issue when the new version in devel failed to recognize/playback flac files |
| 21:19.44 | bindi | humm |
| 21:19.51 | bindi | I have extras-devel but can't find nitroid-installer |
| 21:23.01 | bindi | user error |
| 21:23.07 | bindi | nitdroid |
| 21:23.08 | bindi | is hard to type lol |
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| 21:25.24 | Sicelo | why u want to install nitroid? |
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| 21:26.54 | bindi | why would I not? |
| 21:28.16 | Sicelo | was just asking... btw, u notice topic? |
| 21:28.53 | bindi | I do, why? |
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| 21:30.04 | Sicelo | u asking why the topic is like that? |
| 21:30.16 | bindi | I am asking |
| 21:30.20 | bindi | why are you asking me if I notice the topic |
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| 21:33.17 | Sicelo | it seemed to me that u wanted to install nitdroid |
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| 21:38.59 | bindi | lol |
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| 23:19.39 | BCMM | is http://maemo.org/ is a bad mood? |
| 23:19.44 | BCMM | s/is/in/ |
| 23:19.51 | *** join/#maemo FIQ|n900 (~FIQ@unaffiliated/fiq) |
| 23:20.17 | BCMM | infobot: well, no i didn't. i was being pretty inaccurate, but a human would probably parse it correctly. thanks, though. |
| 23:25.59 | FIQ|n900 | I guess he just failed to parse an s/foo/bar/ like you wanted it? :P |
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| 23:33.29 | Lantizia | Lo can stuff compiled for arm run on armel or does it have to be compiled for armel? |
| 23:33.42 | Lantizia | Got an old ipk package from a Sharp Zaurus I'm desperate to use on the n900 |
| 23:33.50 | Lantizia | (if possible) |
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| 23:35.43 | ds3 | is OABI_COMPAT enabled in the N900 kernel? |
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| 23:39.48 | NIN101 | no |
| 23:40.32 | ds3 | then zero chance |
| 23:47.22 | BCMM | FIQ|n900: he parsed it correctly, even though i actually meant the other instance of is |
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