| 00:00.28 | Gh0sty | http://wbenton.tripod.com/humor/Jokeindex602.html |
| 00:00.28 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: agreed |
| 00:00.43 | Gh0sty | but no cake at the end of portal 2 :-( |
| 00:00.50 | Gh0sty | *disappointed* |
| 00:01.19 | DocScrutinizer | that's to compensate with razorsharp binary logic the lack of understanding of the usual female logic. So the average male mind keeps flexible and optimistic ;-D |
| 00:01.36 | GeneralAntilles | Gh0sty, yes, but animal king! |
| 00:02.35 | Gh0sty | heh ... a network course containing an ip address: â10.7.28.277 |
| 00:02.43 | Gh0sty | where did we go wrong :/ |
| 00:03.23 | kwtm | Gh0sty: It's the 16-bit IP address. :) |
| 00:03.33 | Gh0sty | yeah sure |
| 00:03.41 | kwtm | It's for the very advanced. |
| 00:03.44 | Gh0sty | hmm good point actually |
| 00:03.49 | Gh0sty | looking into ipv6 |
| 00:03.56 | Gh0sty | wonder how well n900 will cope :) |
| 00:04.19 | Gh0sty | but first gotta get native ipv6 from my provider |
| 00:04.25 | Gh0sty | the promised Q2 of this year |
| 00:04.38 | Gh0sty | well they have 2 months left :P |
| 00:04.47 | Gh0sty | hope they fix it in Q2 :) |
| 00:05.36 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, when was the Portal 1 ending changed? |
| 00:05.42 | DocScrutinizer | I'm quite unhappy with infobot almost seems the only female character left on this chan |
| 00:05.44 | merlin1991 | never |
| 00:06.41 | DocScrutinizer | ~seen rvdkathy |
| 00:06.43 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: i haven't seen 'rvdkathy' |
| 00:06.47 | DocScrutinizer | errr |
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| 00:07.50 | DocScrutinizer | ~seen tealbird |
| 00:07.51 | infobot | tealbird <~poisonivy@70-36-184-147.dsl.static.sonic.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 126d 14h 19m 43s ago, saying: 'The irony being I was prepping to set up nightly backups when this happened'. |
| 00:08.11 | merlin1991 | Doc, it's one of the classic rules of the internet: "there are no women on the internetz" |
| 00:08.16 | Gh0sty | lol :D |
| 00:08.23 | DocScrutinizer | yeah |
| 00:08.39 | Gh0sty | nice punch line there :) |
| 00:09.16 | Gh0sty | oh btw |
| 00:09.24 | Gh0sty | when trying to install backupmenu |
| 00:09.39 | Gh0sty | it comes saying like I will destroy my phone since it uses something something |
| 00:09.42 | Gh0sty | is it safe? |
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| 00:09.52 | DocScrutinizer | yyes |
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| 00:10.08 | Gh0sty | or will it explode and leave the rest of this hemisphere in a nuclear winter? |
| 00:10.14 | DocScrutinizer | that's a bogus warning about I2Ctools, no? |
| 00:10.23 | Gh0sty | yes something like that |
| 00:10.28 | DocScrutinizer | nevermind |
| 00:10.35 | Gh0sty | not sure how I2C could destroy mankind |
| 00:11.06 | DocScrutinizer | only if your BT in N900 controls the US nuke arsenal |
| 00:11.28 | Gh0sty | considers |
| 00:11.29 | sid_ | help |
| 00:11.37 | merlin1991 | who knows, maybe the big red button is a bluetooth device |
| 00:11.50 | merlin1991 | ~asking |
| 00:11.50 | infobot | if you have a question, don't ask "does anybody know about foo", don't ask if you can ask it... just ask it.. if somebody knows, they'll answer :) Just don't repeat your question |
| 00:12.03 | Gh0sty | always wondered what that "do not connect to this" device would be :p |
| 00:12.04 | merlin1991 | do we have a ~help too? |
| 00:12.07 | DocScrutinizer | ~question |
| 00:12.07 | infobot | question is probably If you have a question and want people to give useful answers, make sure you have read this first: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 00:12.16 | DocScrutinizer | ~+help |
| 00:12.57 | merlin1991 | ~wtf |
| 00:13.01 | dotblank | where can I find the wiki |
| 00:13.09 | dotblank | hmmm |
| 00:13.14 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: fail |
| 00:13.17 | merlin1991 | wiki.maemo.org? |
| 00:13.18 | DocScrutinizer | ~wtf wtf |
| 00:13.37 | dotblank | merlin1991, I don't think you get it |
| 00:13.43 | dotblank | ~where can I find the wiki |
| 00:13.57 | merlin1991 | that'd be ~wcitf |
| 00:13.59 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 00:14.04 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 00:14.09 | DocScrutinizer | ~wiki |
| 00:14.12 | lolcat | merlin1991: No, wciftw |
| 00:14.14 | DocScrutinizer | ouch |
| 00:14.19 | merlin1991 | whatever :D |
| 00:14.25 | dotblank | ~wciftw |
| 00:14.30 | merlin1991 | someone gotta tell apt about the wiki |
| 00:14.31 | dotblank | hmm |
| 00:14.34 | DocScrutinizer | ~wiki irc |
| 00:14.53 | dotblank | ~wiki n900 |
| 00:15.40 | DocScrutinizer | ~literal wiki |
| 00:15.40 | infobot | "wiki" is "uma teia de informações gerada +- quase "automaticamente", conforme as pessoas escrevem, usando uma sintaxe simples pra escrever os textos; veja a sua história em <http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiHistory>, e a wikipédia em <http://www.wikipedia.org/>" |
| 00:15.51 | dotblank | umm |
| 00:16.25 | merlin1991 | ~wtf root |
| 00:16.29 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 00:16.36 | DocScrutinizer | ~root |
| 00:16.36 | infobot | methinks root is not a Good Thing to use when using IRC. Please use a different account. |
| 00:17.04 | DocScrutinizer | infobot: what is root |
| 00:17.04 | infobot | it has been said that root is not a Good Thing to use when using IRC. Please use a different account. |
| 00:17.40 | merlin1991 | ~ugt |
| 00:17.41 | infobot | ugt is, like, Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 00:17.56 | DocScrutinizer | mhm, g'night |
| 00:18.00 | dotblank | huh |
| 00:18.08 | dotblank | never knew about ugt |
| 00:18.17 | merlin1991 | what's |
| 00:18.24 | merlin1991 | s/what's/what/ |
| 00:18.29 | dotblank | ~foobar |
| 00:18.30 | infobot | $$%$% |
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| 00:19.12 | MohammadAG | <merlin1991> never |
| 00:19.15 | MohammadAG | just read about it |
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| 00:19.34 | MohammadAG | they patched the ending so they can announce Portal 2 |
| 00:19.58 | dotblank | its like rewriting history books so a war is justified |
| 00:20.03 | dotblank | bit scary |
| 00:21.11 | dotblank | ok not really |
| 00:22.11 | merlin1991 | bit scary? I'd say the usual approach |
| 00:23.51 | MohammadAG | http://i51.tinypic.com/2u7t8xz.jpg |
| 00:24.00 | MohammadAG | how the f do I align that to the left |
| 00:24.17 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.17 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.42 | MohammadAG | tried those |
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| 00:50.59 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: FSCK, make it a button anyway |
| 00:51.10 | DocScrutinizer | we'll need that, for cute things to come |
| 00:52.27 | DocScrutinizer | don't waste a position in a menu for a mere silly display |
| 00:52.29 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, cute things? |
| 00:52.53 | DocScrutinizer | sure, if only it starts Conly or battery-eye or similar sh*t |
| 00:53.07 | MohammadAG | well, button it is |
| 00:53.09 | DocScrutinizer | but I have better plans for it |
| 00:53.14 | MohammadAG | you saved me a shitload of stuff |
| 00:53.34 | MohammadAG | (HildonButton has a HildonValue or whatever it's called, that can handle "value" text) |
| 00:54.39 | MohammadAG | in short: the bluet text in buttons |
| 00:54.39 | MohammadAG | so I don't need to fit two labels to show "Charging" |
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| 00:55.15 | weed37 | MohammadAG, pm |
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| 01:00.33 | frog | evening |
| 01:00.51 | frog | any n810 users about? |
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| 01:02.32 | frog | anyone about? |
| 01:02.43 | MohammadAG | yes for the second part :p |
| 01:03.52 | merlin1991 | yes for the 2nd part too |
| 01:04.17 | weed37 | yes for the second part 3 |
| 01:04.28 | merlin1991 | weed37 ftw |
| 01:04.34 | weed37 | :D |
| 01:04.59 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.17 | MohammadAG | doesn't that mean I'm below the "Recharge battery" part? |
| 01:05.24 | frog | I have been away from maemo for a year or so... and ... it sorta looks like it died for old devices. |
| 01:05.27 | MohammadAG | I thought it shuts down at 5 |
| 01:05.40 | MohammadAG | ah nvm, battery.reporting.current = 206 |
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| 01:09.46 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, http://i54.tinypic.com/nbdymg.jpg |
| 01:11.57 | frog | im running a 2008OS, and attempting to download from a 2008 repository... |
| 01:12.11 | frog | but the dependancies are all maemo5? |
| 01:12.30 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: IroN900:~# lshal |grep batter |
| 01:12.45 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, I know, already saw those :p |
| 01:13.01 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.03 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.42 | MohammadAG | what's charge_level? |
| 01:14.08 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:14.27 | MohammadAG | 8 bars? |
| 01:14.40 | MohammadAG | but there's also percentage battery.charge_level.percentage = 16 |
| 01:14.41 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, good for a decent booze eve |
| 01:15.08 | MohammadAG | I checked, it's battery.reporting.current / battery.reporting.design * 100 |
| 01:15.33 | MohammadAG | I wonder what battery.remaining_time = 7200 (0x1c20) (int) is though |
| 01:16.55 | DocScrutinizer | nfc, same here |
| 01:17.13 | MohammadAG | 7200? |
| 01:17.17 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 01:17.37 | MohammadAG | so if we assume that's seconds, it = 120minutes = 2 hours |
| 01:17.48 | MohammadAG | I doubt my 16% can give me 2 hours |
| 01:17.55 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.31 | DocScrutinizer | some of bme's lies |
| 01:18.55 | MohammadAG | I guess that's why the applet has a static 3 hours remaining |
| 01:19.01 | MohammadAG | (besides someone failing at math there) |
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| 01:28.34 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: maths fails are the base of awesome "features", also night |
| 01:29.22 | MohammadAG | night merlin1991 :) |
| 01:29.51 | ShadowJK | the applet updates values when you tap it, and then displays the old values |
| 01:30.33 | ShadowJK | (N810) |
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| 01:33.08 | ShadowJK | Time remaining was vaguely correct, if you allowed sufficient time to elapse between harassing the battery icon (so that it has sensible estimate of consumption), and with fresh battery |
| 01:33.54 | ShadowJK | fresh as in, my second N810 battery is down to <600mA usable capacity at 350mA load |
| 01:37.25 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: is any of the regular registers of bq27200 writable now, or not? |
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| 01:45.32 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: >> WRTNAC is used to transfer data from the AR registers to NAC. Other registers are updated as appropriate. This command is useful during the pack manufacture and test to initialize the gauge to match the estimated battery capacity. |
| 01:46.53 | DocScrutinizer | you'd think this ought get done to adjust the chip to a proper 1380mA |
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| 01:47.13 | DocScrutinizer | (or 2200mAh in case of mugen) |
| 01:47.52 | ShadowJK | I use that myself when switching batteries |
| 01:48.21 | DocScrutinizer | hey, why isn't that a parameter in bq27200.sh then ? :-D |
| 01:48.21 | ShadowJK | But as everything else, it gets reset to eeprom values in case of powerloss |
| 01:48.47 | ShadowJK | that's the unpublished writear.sh and ar2nac.sh ;-) |
| 01:48.59 | DocScrutinizer | hehehe |
| 01:50.02 | ShadowJK | iirc the effect/result of doing it isn't quite as sensible/sane as the datasheet says.. |
| 01:50.54 | DocScrutinizer | ummpf |
| 01:52.13 | ShadowJK | iirc you still need 4 learning cycles to go from 2000-something to 1300-something, and even more for mugen -> bl-5j.. But what it does help with is avoiding learning cycle being disqualified for being too far off |
| 01:52.50 | MohammadAG | can I use a % in printf()? |
| 01:52.57 | MohammadAG | g_snprintf (percentage_text, sizeof (percentage_text), "Percentage %d\%", percentage); |
| 01:52.59 | DocScrutinizer | err, don't see the need of 4 learning cycles |
| 01:53.26 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: % afaik |
| 01:53.31 | DocScrutinizer | err |
| 01:53.33 | DocScrutinizer | %% |
| 01:53.53 | DocScrutinizer | but don't quote me on that |
| 01:53.57 | MohammadAG | oh, thanks |
| 01:54.03 | MohammadAG | nah that was it, ty |
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| 01:56.25 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: what you need however is a rather tricky sequence with mode register and control register to actually write that value from AR to NAC |
| 01:59.39 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, http://i55.tinypic.com/20tjptu.jpg |
| 01:59.54 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: >> DONE is used to write NAC equal to LMD. Useful if the host uses a charge termination method that does not allow the monitor to detect the taper current. The host system could use this command when the charging is complete to force update of internal registers to a full battery condition. |
| 02:01.43 | ShadowJK | iirc just the ar to nac transfer also sets done/vdq |
| 02:02.46 | DocScrutinizer | according to datasheet DONE never gets set by chip |
| 02:04.56 | DocScrutinizer | I2Cset 1 0xD0; I2Cset 0 0xA9 |
| 02:05.53 | zakkkkm_ | is " Nokia N900 Smartphone Performance Optimization Tune-up Utilities" any good? |
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| 02:07.07 | DocScrutinizer | *cough* never heard |
| 02:07.19 | DocScrutinizer | sounds like windows registry optimizer |
| 02:07.36 | zakkkkm_ | heh |
| 02:07.42 | zakkkkm_ | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67710 |
| 02:08.02 | ShadowJK | well, done is a command to set vdq, but vdq is also set by ar to nac transfer |
| 02:08.14 | zakkkkm_ | doesnt show what its doing |
| 02:08.18 | DocScrutinizer | vdq? |
| 02:08.38 | ShadowJK | valid discharge conditions.. thing |
| 02:09.10 | zakkkkm_ | is it normal that battery'eye says 1273mah is full charge.. while the battery says 1320? |
| 02:09.11 | DocScrutinizer | no, according to datasheet DONE is for setting NAC to LMD |
| 02:09.48 | ShadowJK | if !vdq then no learning |
| 02:10.17 | ShadowJK | if you reach 6% during discharging, meter stops at 6. If your battery lasts much longer still, at some point VDQ is unset and meter starts running down again towards 0, and no learning takes place |
| 02:10.52 | DocScrutinizer | hmm |
| 02:11.28 | DocScrutinizer | LMD for sure can't be correct without vdq |
| 02:12.04 | DocScrutinizer | but DONE writes LMD to NAC, no matter what |
| 02:13.16 | SpeedEvil | LEarning only happens as it hits 6% |
| 02:13.17 | ShadowJK | sure |
| 02:13.33 | DocScrutinizer | who's talking about learning? |
| 02:13.42 | SpeedEvil | You're supposed to calibrate the battery voltage end of discharge value so that your battery capacity is 6% at that point |
| 02:14.15 | SpeedEvil | It assumes that it's linear below that to the lower threshold IIRC |
| 02:14.17 | ShadowJK | transfering LMD to NAC doesn't have much use |
| 02:14.17 | ShadowJK | the other direction would be cool |
| 02:14.19 | SpeedEvil | But it's been a while |
| 02:16.22 | zakkkkm_ | i know why you shouldnt overclock . .but has anyone bricked their n900 by overclocking? |
| 02:17.16 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 02:18.30 | zakkkkm_ | i assume LV without overclocking, would cause the same problem? |
| 02:18.40 | zakkkkm_ | just trying to think of tweaks :) |
| 02:19.27 | DocScrutinizer | LV as in core voltage SmartReflex setting lower than recommended? |
| 02:19.54 | zakkkkm_ | hey can i enable smartreflex? |
| 02:20.02 | zakkkkm_ | should i*? |
| 02:20.43 | DocScrutinizer | won't really help to make OC safer, won't save much battery charge either, and will cause instabilities, but otherwise it's completely safe |
| 02:20.49 | ShadowJK | SpeedEvil, in the case of swapping from learned bl-5j to mugen, it counts down to 6% when mugen reaches about 40% |
| 02:20.50 | DocScrutinizer | (LV that is) |
| 02:21.18 | zakkkkm_ | DocScrutinizer: was thinking LV, without overclocking. .. just for battery purposes |
| 02:21.42 | DocScrutinizer | and no, as long as Nokia doesn't use SR you shouldn't use it either, as it is allegedly causing instabilities and maybe even hazard for the CPU |
| 02:21.44 | zakkkkm_ | have to figure out how to get new stylus heh, lost mine. |
| 02:22.19 | zakkkkm_ | maemo sadly getting boring. |
| 02:22.20 | SpeedEvil | ebay! |
| 02:22.58 | zakkkkm_ | SpeedEvil: i know, takes long though, and moving soon.. might come when im not here so thinking it semi bad idea |
| 02:23.01 | zakkkkm_ | not that it costs much though |
| 02:23.41 | SpeedEvil | Also - you can whittle it out of a small stick. |
| 02:23.45 | SpeedEvil | I've used that. |
| 02:24.07 | zakkkkm_ | might grab one of those full housing sets + stylus fro mthe US for like $15 |
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| 02:24.44 | SpeedEvil | The 'dummy n900's are completely useless apart from the stylus |
| 02:24.52 | SpeedEvil | everything else is custom, and useless. |
| 02:24.57 | zakkkkm_ | ? |
| 02:25.13 | MohammadAG | status-area-applet-battery.c:104: error: invalid storage class for function 'battery_status_plugin_get_values' |
| 02:25.13 | MohammadAG | wtf |
| 02:25.34 | SpeedEvil | There are dummy n900s. They can be cheaper than the plastics sets |
| 02:25.37 | SpeedEvil | they are not the same |
| 02:25.43 | zakkkkm_ | http://cgi.ebay.ca/Full-New-Black-faceplate-housing-cover-Nokia-N900-/270562873715?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3efecdd173 i was thinking like this |
| 02:25.46 | DocScrutinizer | try http://www.saremi-mobilfunk.de/ when they got their crap fixed, or http://www.thenokiaparts.com/eng/product_search.php |
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| 02:26.40 | zakkkkm_ | 2 stylus - $8? :p |
| 02:27.07 | DocScrutinizer | well, mine are way more expensive, but made of silver |
| 02:27.19 | zakkkkm_ | silver stylus? |
| 02:27.21 | zakkkkm_ | real silver? |
| 02:27.29 | DocScrutinizer | sure 999.9 |
| 02:27.41 | DocScrutinizer | with diamonds |
| 02:28.00 | zakkkkm_ | :) |
| 02:29.03 | DocScrutinizer | you bet you'll never lose that one ;-P |
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| 02:30.59 | zakkkkm_ | DocScrutinizer: :) |
| 02:31.10 | zakkkkm_ | i dont know how i lost mine :( i always use it and put it back |
| 02:31.35 | zakkkkm_ | and it sucks cause im so limited.. cant use easydebian or anything |
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| 02:32.26 | zakkkkm_ | not so bad, just use it for a phone mainly. have ipad for big stuff. |
| 02:33.25 | Ken-Young | Does anyone know where the layout information for Maemo 5 desktop shortcuts is stored? In other words, where can I find the X-Y coordinates at which the shortcut icons will appear? |
| 02:35.12 | MohammadAG | somewhere in gconf |
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| 02:35.21 | MohammadAG | can't remember it off the top of my head |
| 02:36.04 | Ken-Young | MohammadAG, Thanks - I'll snoop around in there. |
| 02:36.33 | MohammadAG | Ken-Young, nevermind, /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/applets |
| 02:36.47 | MohammadAG | gconftool-2 -R /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/applets |
| 02:37.02 | Ken-Young | MohammadAG, Great! Thanks a bunch. |
| 02:39.54 | MohammadAG | yw |
| 02:41.51 | MohammadAG | grr |
| 02:41.54 | MohammadAG | I can't get it to update |
| 02:43.09 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:43.09 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:43.12 | MohammadAG | it should work fine |
| 02:44.05 | DocScrutinizer | hal is dead, it just doesn't know about it |
| 02:44.14 | xd13 | anyone else notice more battery drain since the last ssu update |
| 02:45.24 | DocScrutinizer | have to admit I don't know |
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| 02:50.53 | DocScrutinizer | nah |
| 02:50.58 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:51.00 | DocScrutinizer | 04:49 4143 100 100 -48 1261 1261 1261 65535 1555 29 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 02:51.01 | DocScrutinizer | 04:50 4153 100 100 -8 1261 1261 1261 65535 8480 29 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 02:51.03 | DocScrutinizer | 04:50 4153 100 100 -9 1261 1261 1261 65535 7904 28 NOACT:0 IMIN:0 CI:0 CALIP:0 VDQ:1 EDV1:0 EDVF:0 |
| 02:51.45 | DocScrutinizer | -8, -9mA - pretty decent for standby via WLAN, with active GSM phone |
| 02:52.24 | zakkkkm_ | DocScrutinizer: is that with screen off ? |
| 02:52.33 | DocScrutinizer | sure, lol |
| 02:52.43 | zakkkkm_ | i get lower than that, and im on 3g? |
| 02:52.50 | zakkkkm_ | get like 6-7 on 3g |
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| 02:53.06 | DocScrutinizer | no WLAN? |
| 02:53.08 | zakkkkm_ | no |
| 02:53.10 | zakkkkm_ | celluar data |
| 02:53.17 | DocScrutinizer | meh, no |
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| 02:53.30 | zakkkkm_ | wifi takes more than celluar? |
| 02:53.33 | DocScrutinizer | no ACTUAL data |
| 02:53.36 | MohammadAG | meh, I'll try to get it working tomorrow |
| 02:53.39 | MohammadAG | bbl in 4 hours |
| 02:53.46 | DocScrutinizer | cya MohammadAG |
| 02:53.47 | SpeedEvil | zakkkkm_: marginally |
| 02:54.04 | SpeedEvil | zakkkkm_: if cellular is in a good area, and not active. |
| 02:54.14 | SpeedEvil | Stationary |
| 02:54.29 | DocScrutinizer | NOT ACTIVE |
| 02:54.29 | zakkkkm_ | *reminds self never to go in wifi* |
| 02:54.31 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 02:54.38 | DocScrutinizer | no data, just logged in |
| 02:55.06 | DocScrutinizer | start a ping 8.8.8.8 and current goes thru the roof |
| 02:55.35 | zakkkkm_ | have problem myself with using data .. creates crazy high mah |
| 02:55.48 | zakkkkm_ | simple surfing , low brightness is like 350-400mah |
| 02:55.51 | DocScrutinizer | while my figures are on a ssh remote terminal, via WLAN |
| 02:56.10 | DocScrutinizer | zakkkkm_: normal |
| 02:56.19 | zakkkkm_ | i know. |
| 02:56.28 | zakkkkm_ | its my only complaint of battery |
| 02:56.46 | DocScrutinizer | use 2(.5)G |
| 02:56.48 | zakkkkm_ | dont do anything else on my phone.. and 6-7mah standby is good enough for me |
| 02:56.53 | zakkkkm_ | cant.. only 3g network |
| 02:56.59 | DocScrutinizer | :-S |
| 02:57.07 | zakkkkm_ | we in canada are high tech that way |
| 02:57.23 | zakkkkm_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_Mobile |
| 02:57.57 | zakkkkm_ | if i were to use 2g , it would go in roaming |
| 02:58.05 | DocScrutinizer | you got correct RS on your bq27200.sh? |
| 02:58.13 | SpeedEvil | zakkkkm_: yeah - 3G is painful |
| 02:58.53 | DocScrutinizer | xd13: so the answer is: no known issues with PR1.3 |
| 02:58.57 | zakkkkm_ | pay $40 a month.. for unlimited data (truly unlimited.. did 38gb one month.. ), unlimited canada and US calling and unlimited global SMS |
| 02:59.05 | DocScrutinizer | and battery endurance |
| 02:59.06 | zakkkkm_ | only problem is battery life of 3g |
| 02:59.26 | zakkkkm_ | RSOC? |
| 02:59.29 | zakkkkm_ | says 100 ? |
| 02:59.37 | DocScrutinizer | RS in script |
| 03:00.10 | zakkkkm_ | cant find RS |
| 03:00.15 | DocScrutinizer | o.O |
| 03:00.18 | SpeedEvil | zakkkkm_: That's a good price. |
| 03:00.45 | zakkkkm_ | SpeedEvil: http://www.blogcdn.com/mobile.engadget.com/media/2010/12/wind-40-plan.jpg |
| 03:01.12 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# grep RS= bin/bq27200.sh |
| 03:01.13 | DocScrutinizer | RS=${RS:-22} |
| 03:01.15 | DocScrutinizer | echo "LOOPMODE=$LOOPMODE RS=$RS" |
| 03:02.14 | DocScrutinizer | if you got 30 there, you need to multiply your current values by 1.5 |
| 03:02.55 | zakkkkm_ | cant grep it |
| 03:03.16 | DocScrutinizer | wonder why |
| 03:05.26 | zakkkkm_ | ./bq27200.sh | grep RS .. CSOC: 99% RSOC: 99% |
| 03:05.29 | zakkkkm_ | theres no RS= |
| 03:05.40 | DocScrutinizer | *sigh* |
| 03:06.00 | DocScrutinizer | did you see a pipe symbol in my line quoted above? |
| 03:06.33 | zakkkkm_ | i got a bq27000.sh not found from yours |
| 03:06.33 | DocScrutinizer | but ok: |
| 03:06.43 | zakkkkm_ | . |
| 03:06.43 | DocScrutinizer | cat ./bq27200.sh | grep RS |
| 03:07.06 | zakkkkm_ | oh right sorry. |
| 03:07.10 | zakkkkm_ | wanted contents, not output |
| 03:07.18 | zakkkkm_ | RS=20 |
| 03:07.24 | DocScrutinizer | ok |
| 03:07.36 | zakkkkm_ | sorry, majorly tired. |
| 03:07.43 | DocScrutinizer | np |
| 03:09.27 | zakkkkm_ | geting -10 with conversations running .. and a ./bq2700.sh 10 |
| 03:09.32 | zakkkkm_ | 10mah* |
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| 03:18.13 | zakkkkm_ | with a ./bq2700.sh 60 .. get 5-6mah |
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| 03:33.55 | ShadowJK | that's very low : |
| 03:33.56 | ShadowJK | :) |
| 03:36.08 | zakkkkm_ | ShadowJK: yeh, 3g too .. with IM accounts on in celluar data |
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| 03:45.57 | ShadowJK | impossible :) |
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| 04:16.19 | pupnik | greets |
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| 04:17.57 | pupnik | muchas |
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| 08:13.53 | jaska | richard dean anderson? |
| 08:14.05 | abissom | lol |
| 08:14.16 | abissom | ~rda |
| 08:14.47 | abissom | infobot doesn't know |
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| 08:42.09 | rhkfin_ | Does anyone know any other options to sync google calendar and Maemo/N900 except the integrated exchange-thing that works only once and then dies and doesn't sync ever any more.. |
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| 08:47.57 | piggz | rhkfin_: yes |
| 08:48.13 | piggz | rhkfin_: i use sync evolution on a daily schedule |
| 08:48.20 | piggz | seems to work |
| 08:48.31 | rhkfin_ | sync evolution, will check.. |
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| 08:49.44 | rhkfin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:50.14 | mece | piggz, what do you sync with? |
| 08:51.16 | mece | yay! mBarcode fixed! |
| 08:51.45 | rhkfin_ | mece: what do you use mBarcode for? installed & seems to work but haven't figured what to use it for.. |
| 08:52.53 | piggz | rhkfin_: yes |
| 08:52.59 | piggz | mece: google |
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| 08:53.52 | rhkfin_ | Will try |
| 08:55.08 | rhkfin_ | piggz: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sync/Usage_of_syncevolution#Syncevolution-Frontend says 'Google - NOTE: ONLY CONTACTS CAN BE SYNC'd |
| 08:55.30 | piggz | rhkfin_: oh, hangon... |
| 08:55.54 | piggz | rhkfin_: my bad,.....erminig |
| 08:55.59 | rhkfin_ | ah, right.... |
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| 08:56.45 | mece | rhkfin_, paying bills |
| 08:57.10 | rhkfin_ | mece: interesting!! I've been wondering why bar code scanners are so expensive.. |
| 08:57.19 | piggz | rhkfin_: erminig syncs fine, but can only sync daily, not hourly etc.. |
| 08:57.41 | rhkfin_ | piggz: any idea where's the limitation from? |
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| 09:01.23 | mece | rhkfin_, well it didn't work all that well with the old one because the barcodes on bills are so damn long, the resolution was too low. So I had to take a picture and scan the picture. We discussed it with lardman and he said he'd try to come up with some solution |
| 09:01.46 | rhkfin_ | great |
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| 09:05.48 | piggz | rhkfin_: not sure, thats what the gui provides |
| 09:06.18 | rhkfin_ | ok |
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| 09:16.05 | rhkfin_ | piggz: "Erminig's UI allows the specification of a daily sync at a specified time. For more fine grained control, the command erminig -a can be used with a scheduler such as Alarmed" |
| 09:16.31 | piggz | rhkfin_: ah, cool |
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| 09:25.03 | porcelain | hi |
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| 09:52.35 | MohammadAG | anyone worked with hal before? |
| 09:53.35 | robbiethe1st | Sorry, MohammadAG, I can't let you do that. |
| 09:54.32 | MohammadAG | you're a bit late, I'm already done :p |
| 09:54.47 | MohammadAG | except the property changed signal callback isn't getting through |
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| 09:59.17 | lolcat | MohammadAG: You fixed hal? |
| 10:14.01 | MohammadAG | lolcat, is it broken? |
| 10:14.23 | lolcat | MohammadAG: HAL is AWFULL |
| 10:14.25 | lolcat | it hangs |
| 10:14.30 | lolcat | it doesn't show programs |
| 10:14.37 | lolcat | It works about 1/4 of the times |
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| 10:16.13 | MohammadAG | lolcat, well that's not my concern :p |
| 10:16.35 | lolcat | MohammadAG: Doh |
| 10:16.42 | lolcat | What are you coding then? |
| 10:16.46 | MohammadAG | I'm rewriting the battery applet http://i55.tinypic.com/20tjptu.jpg |
| 10:17.14 | lolcat | MohammadAG: How can it know how many mAh my battery has? |
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| 10:17.22 | MohammadAG | bme |
| 10:17.34 | MohammadAG | lshal | grep battery |
| 10:17.40 | lolcat | So I just stick in a random battery and it knows? Oo |
| 10:18.22 | SpeedEvil | It can't |
| 10:18.23 | Svendsen | ls |
| 10:18.35 | SpeedEvil | the battery capacity fromlshal is a lie |
| 10:18.47 | MohammadAG | I thought bme gets confused with fake batteries |
| 10:18.49 | lolcat | My phone won't even charge |
| 10:19.02 | ShadowJK | it gets confused with all batteries |
| 10:19.11 | SpeedEvil | It's gotten fromafixedresistor thatismeasuredbythen900 inthe battery |
| 10:19.25 | SpeedEvil | There is no smart battery readout in the battery at all. |
| 10:19.42 | SpeedEvil | The only way to tell the capacity of the battery wouild be impeddence spectroscdopy |
| 10:19.47 | SpeedEvil | spectroscopy |
| 10:19.51 | SpeedEvil | Or discharging it |
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| 10:20.19 | MohammadAG | anyway, I'm not sure why battery_status_plugin_hal_property_modified_cb isn't being called |
| 10:20.25 | MohammadAG | it's what's basically left, besides sound |
| 10:21.18 | lolcat | The battery applet uses sound? |
| 10:21.21 | robbiethe1st | Hm... might it not be possible to calculate the capacity(or at least internal resistance) from the voltage drop based on load? That is, over a short period of time, monitor the voltage differences as compared to the load in mA. |
| 10:21.51 | MohammadAG | yes |
| 10:21.58 | MohammadAG | it triggers the Battery low thing |
| 10:21.59 | robbiethe1st | Knowing the original capacity - what the resistor said - you should be able to calculate the current capacityt |
| 10:22.10 | SpeedEvil | robbiethe1st: That is impedence spectroscopy |
| 10:22.15 | SpeedEvil | robbiethe1st: Sort-of |
| 10:22.28 | robbiethe1st | Hm, ok |
| 10:22.42 | SpeedEvil | robbiethe1st: That sort-of-works - but naieve implementations confuse battery age and capacity |
| 10:23.06 | SpeedEvil | MohammadAG: are you iusing the battery monitor chip - or believeing BME? |
| 10:23.19 | MohammadAG | SpeedEvil, DocScrutinizer told me to use hal/dbus |
| 10:23.36 | SpeedEvil | Fair enough, for a 0th cut. |
| 10:23.43 | SpeedEvil | Also - anyone can replace. |
| 10:23.52 | robbiethe1st | Also, it would be nice to have it set things to 100% when the battery finishes charging; I mean... it's 100% of the /current/ capacity, more or less |
| 10:24.23 | JHVH-1 | my game uses 370mA :( |
| 10:24.37 | MohammadAG | which library plays sound? |
| 10:24.49 | MohammadAG | actually which lib has init_sound, play_sound |
| 10:25.01 | DocScrutinizer | <with a low voice> you called my name? |
| 10:25.25 | MohammadAG | yes :p |
| 10:25.37 | lolcat | I think I will get a refund for my N900. Should I wait for the N950 or? |
| 10:25.58 | MohammadAG | what N950? |
| 10:26.06 | lolcat | N9? |
| 10:26.12 | MohammadAG | what N9? |
| 10:26.21 | keks-n | There are rumours about a model with Maemo 6 or MeeGo |
| 10:26.22 | lolcat | The next meego/harmattan phone? |
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| 10:26.33 | keks-n | They call it "N950" |
| 10:26.56 | MohammadAG | what next generation phone? :P |
| 10:27.10 | stonda | what harmattan? |
| 10:27.23 | lolcat | runs towards webos |
| 10:27.44 | keks-n | http://www.serbagadget.com/news/nokia-n950-calon-smartphone-meego-pengganti-n900/?lang=en |
| 10:27.46 | lolcat | Not really |
| 10:27.53 | lolcat | I like the N900. |
| 10:27.55 | keks-n | Blah-blah-blah. I don't believe them |
| 10:28.21 | lolcat | A better battery + dual core + 1 gb ram would be nice |
| 10:28.28 | SpeedEvil | The official nokia position is that tehre will be one meego device this year. |
| 10:28.38 | DocScrutinizer | toaster |
| 10:28.41 | SpeedEvil | And then it will be relegated to a research project. |
| 10:28.58 | SpeedEvil | The currentt best guess isthat this will be a phone. |
| 10:29.03 | chem|st | SpeedEvil: then there will be one harmattan and one meego?! |
| 10:29.09 | SpeedEvil | It could be a t-shirt too of course. |
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| 10:29.14 | ShadowJK | lolcat, dude it's Nokia, it'll have half the ram required to run a web browser, or less, like all Nokias to date ;p |
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| 10:29.21 | SpeedEvil | chem|st: meego is a wierd name. |
| 10:29.25 | stonda | no, a refrigerator |
| 10:29.33 | SpeedEvil | It doesn't mean the same UI and software under it. |
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| 10:29.41 | ShadowJK | actually I think Elop said "MeeGo related" product |
| 10:29.42 | SpeedEvil | harmattan = meego inthis case AIUI |
| 10:29.46 | chem|st | SpeedEvil: harmattan != meego |
| 10:29.51 | SpeedEvil | ShadowJK: indeed |
| 10:30.06 | lolcat | ShadowJK: MeeGo related xD A poster or soemthing |
| 10:30.12 | SpeedEvil | ShadowJK: At one point inthe talk he did actually confim it was a phone. |
| 10:30.18 | SpeedEvil | Well - to my eyes. |
| 10:30.30 | MohammadAG | Harmattan = MeeGo + some BS |
| 10:30.35 | lolcat | Why doesn't anyone make good phones? |
| 10:30.38 | SpeedEvil | Or someone from nokia during the same announcement. |
| 10:30.41 | chem|st | MohammadAG: ehrm nope |
| 10:30.49 | MohammadAG | yes |
| 10:31.03 | chem|st | MohammadAG: I thought harmattan is maemo + some meego BS |
| 10:31.06 | DocScrutinizer | no, but timeless confirmed they didn't change their main development aim |
| 10:31.10 | MohammadAG | it's MeeGo with a custom UI and closed source crap |
| 10:31.16 | ShadowJK | Atleast originally Harmattan was going to be Maemo + MeeGo compat layer.. |
| 10:31.29 | DocScrutinizer | hahaha |
| 10:31.30 | SpeedEvil | My hope is that WP7 bombs, and they launch a wider variety of handets with meego. |
| 10:31.37 | SpeedEvil | But... |
| 10:31.43 | chem|st | MohammadAG: but it's still .deb based, would be wierd to use meego build in .deb |
| 10:31.45 | DocScrutinizer | Qt4.7.2-borked-final |
| 10:32.33 | DocScrutinizer | it'll be a maemo with meego UX and RPM |
| 10:32.43 | DocScrutinizer | and 48963 bugs |
| 10:33.24 | MohammadAG | Qt 4.7.2 is fine |
| 10:33.34 | ShadowJK | Except MeeGo UX is kinda useless, nobody would actually use that... so what's left if you replace the base with Maemo, and replace the interface and apps with Nokia stuff? All you have left is the MeeGo name :o |
| 10:33.34 | DocScrutinizer | no wait. It will get cancelled in August |
| 10:33.40 | MohammadAG | building it on x86 works fine |
| 10:33.41 | MohammadAG | armel has issues |
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| 10:34.28 | lolcat | MeeGo has a bad UI? |
| 10:34.38 | MohammadAG | Haha |
| 10:35.07 | MohammadAG | bad is an understatement |
| 10:35.19 | MohammadAG | sure, it looks good, but it lacks way too much |
| 10:35.26 | lolcat | Bah |
| 10:35.33 | mece | hm I wonder if nok is going to close the Salo factory... |
| 10:35.36 | MohammadAG | I have to admit though, the UX libs are epic |
| 10:35.40 | lolcat | I love the maemo UI |
| 10:35.45 | DocScrutinizer | those suckers! instead of opening up the last few bits of maemo, passing it to community, and providing a BSP with all their future smartphones, they repelled all devels from maemo to use meego, and now they give meego a first class funeral |
| 10:35.47 | MohammadAG | (MTF) |
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| 10:37.21 | ShadowJK | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFCmCcK_OKw :) |
| 10:37.32 | lolcat | Why won't they open it up if they don't want to use it? |
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| 10:40.37 | keks-n | Hm |
| 10:40.46 | keks-n | fakeroot debian/rules clean |
| 10:40.46 | keks-n | dh clean |
| 10:40.46 | keks-n | Unknown option: w |
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| 10:41.02 | keks-n | wtf |
| 10:41.22 | DocScrutinizer | so now they pay a few poor souls to roll out a hybrid meego-harmattan edition of a maturity *way* worse than PR1.0 on N900, then say "that's it folks! now we've proven all the FOSS is a delusion. Take it and have fun" - what of course a few morons will do to create a 7th alternative smartphone OS antivendor port that never will fly |
| 10:42.40 | lolcat | What is wrong with N900 maemo? |
| 10:42.56 | DocScrutinizer | I wonder how many billions Samsung paid them to act like this |
| 10:43.01 | lolcat | Sure it has it kinks, but I would't trade it for anything else I have tried... |
| 10:43.25 | keks-n | >> What is wrong with N900 maemo? |
| 10:43.36 | DocScrutinizer | nuttin |
| 10:43.39 | keks-n | It's STILL a fork of Debian Sarge |
| 10:44.03 | lolcat | Would it be a lot of work to swap to Lenny? |
| 10:44.10 | keks-n | Yep |
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| 10:44.25 | lolcat | And still, isn't Sarge stable and nice? |
| 10:44.31 | keks-n | Try to "port" something from Debian experimental repository |
| 10:44.44 | keks-n | Or from squeeze at least |
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| 10:44.56 | lolcat | Stable debian then? |
| 10:45.00 | keks-n | And you will realize, "what's wrong" |
| 10:45.22 | keks-n | Old debhelper, old build tools... |
| 10:45.53 | DocScrutinizer | that's not a problem of kernel, that's a problem of the closed blobs that won't work on a stock .37 |
| 10:46.22 | keks-n | Yep |
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| 10:46.32 | DocScrutinizer | basically it's 'easy' to get newest kernel to run on N900 |
| 10:46.56 | keks-n | BTW debian squeeze can run on maemo kernel |
| 10:47.05 | DocScrutinizer | but you also want to use it as a PHONE |
| 10:47.10 | keks-n | Yep |
| 10:47.13 | mece | http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2011/04/nokia_to_announce_job_cuts_on_wednesday_2542481.html |
| 10:47.19 | lolcat | DocScrutinizer: But to upgrade the system you need to update all packages |
| 10:47.19 | SpeedEvil | With powersaving |
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| 10:47.42 | keks-n | It's possible to bring old closed binaries to the new infrastructure |
| 10:47.59 | keks-n | But it can break a lot of third-party software |
| 10:48.00 | mece | FTFA: "Nokia has reserved the nearly 12,000-seat Turkuhalli for the event" <- now that is some serious job cutting! |
| 10:48.05 | DocScrutinizer | with lots of backports |
| 10:48.25 | keks-n | Backporting is painful, you know |
| 10:48.35 | SpeedEvil | mece: They also bought 49Kg of HCN |
| 10:48.56 | DocScrutinizer | a PITA |
| 10:49.08 | lolcat | HCN? |
| 10:49.20 | DocScrutinizer | esp since our kernel devels seem to always take pride in incompatible new APIs |
| 10:49.29 | keks-n | I think it would be easier to make own debian packaging instead of backporting them from upstream |
| 10:49.58 | keks-n | In some cases |
| 10:50.23 | jaska | yeah, i was suggesting it was an ausrottung in turku |
| 10:50.27 | mece | SpeedEvil, HCN? |
| 10:50.36 | jaska | hydrogen cyanide |
| 10:50.40 | lolcat | Is the android phone-stuff open-source? |
| 10:50.40 | mece | ah |
| 10:50.55 | keks-n | lolcat: nope |
| 10:51.10 | lolcat | WebOS phone-stuff? |
| 10:51.12 | keks-n | some proprietary binaries too |
| 10:51.19 | lolcat | Any open-source implementations of phone-stuff? |
| 10:51.22 | mece | lolcat, WebOS is closed source |
| 10:51.27 | mece | lolcat, MeeGo |
| 10:51.29 | DocScrutinizer | just yesterday I discussed the ALSA fsckup in new kernels on N900, several controls vanished, new ones added, you can't use a statefile of .28-maemo on a plain sane .37 kernel |
| 10:52.28 | lolcat | DocScrutinizer: You work for Nokia? |
| 10:52.29 | DocScrutinizer | --> no sound on calls despite the SHR guys managed to talk to modem now |
| 10:53.02 | ruskie | DocScrutinizer, also on it's own is brain broken |
| 10:53.06 | ruskie | erm alsa even |
| 10:53.52 | DocScrutinizer | alsa has an incredibly clumsy concept, but it works |
| 10:54.01 | DocScrutinizer | pukeaudio doesn't |
| 10:54.15 | keks-n | Latest versions seems to work |
| 10:54.34 | keks-n | But I have no intention of having it even on my laptop |
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| 10:54.56 | ruskie | DocScrutinizer, oss just works ;) |
| 10:55.06 | keks-n | lol |
| 10:55.17 | ruskie | though frankly it seems that all audio systems break something on each update |
| 10:55.39 | ruskie | has been using oss4 on all his systems since they went gpl |
| 10:56.25 | ruskie | othen than maemo5... |
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| 10:57.04 | lolcat | I wish I didn't have to part with my N900 |
| 10:57.12 | lolcat | But I will earn a bit on it |
| 10:57.14 | ruskie | why do you need to? |
| 10:57.19 | robbiethe1st | ruskie: seeing as I can't find much information about it, do you know if there's any OSS4 support for hardware MIDI synth? |
| 10:57.32 | ruskie | no clue... never used it... |
| 10:57.46 | lolcat | ruskie: THe charging port is broken again... So it is the 3rd repair |
| 10:58.01 | ruskie | :( |
| 10:58.30 | ruskie | I guess I'm lucky in that regard *knock on wood* |
| 10:58.35 | robbiethe1st | Same |
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| 10:58.49 | keks-n | have used a file to make the cable leave the port easy |
| 10:58.54 | lolcat | And I want a refund because the shop bullshits me and let me borrow a HTC Magick when I sent it in. |
| 10:59.41 | keks-n | You can still get in at eBay |
| 11:00.03 | keks-n | About $350 with shipment |
| 11:00.11 | lolcat | I know a shop that can get me an unused one with 5 year 'warranty' for about haf I bougth mine for |
| 11:00.42 | robbiethe1st | Make sure to use BackupMenu then. :P |
| 11:00.56 | lolcat | I need a good backup |
| 11:01.03 | lolcat | Now I have finaly fixed my contacts |
| 11:01.16 | keks-n | MeeGo resque kernel + sd card + dd |
| 11:01.33 | keks-n | best backup way ever |
| 11:01.43 | MohammadAG | dding what? |
| 11:01.57 | MohammadAG | don't dd the mtds |
| 11:02.17 | keks-n | Ehm. I've dd'ed mtdXro |
| 11:02.19 | ruskie | why? |
| 11:02.43 | MohammadAG | pokes DocScrutinizer |
| 11:02.48 | keks-n | They seem to be safe for read-only access |
| 11:02.56 | MohammadAG | there are tools to dump/write to MTD blocks |
| 11:03.03 | MohammadAG | dding them can break things |
| 11:03.27 | MohammadAG | (I had to erase my MTD blocks once, after using backupmenu to restore an image) |
| 11:03.43 | keks-n | Ok, you can use tar czf |
| 11:04.19 | DocScrutinizer | YOU SHALL Not dd raw Nan.... *cough* |
| 11:04.36 | keks-n | And mtdutils to create a flashable rootfs image |
| 11:05.24 | DocScrutinizer | now that'd be awesome |
| 11:06.45 | DocScrutinizer | happy birthday Chernobyl |
| 11:09.11 | keks-n | Did you hear about Wormhood star? |
| 11:09.11 | DocScrutinizer | ballpark numbers: (500NPP worldwide * 25Years/Class7 event)^-1 *~100.000 liquidators died = 10 fatalities / NPP-year |
| 11:09.42 | keks-n | The star form the Book of Revelation |
| 11:10.10 | keks-n | Chernobyl means wormhood in ukrainian |
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| 11:13.28 | keks-n | BTW I still cann't get access to extras-devel. Requested it last thursday -_- |
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| 11:21.23 | cehteh | http://bikerscafeblog.com/2010/07/11/biologic-reecharge-cool/ |
| 11:21.29 | cehteh | for the bikers, looks cool |
| 11:22.00 | keks-n | wow |
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| 11:22.50 | DocScrutinizer | meh, the robocop charger |
| 11:25.29 | mece | keks-n, the whah? Wormhood who? |
| 11:26.07 | keks-n | sorry, "wormwood" |
| 11:26.10 | _berto_ | you mean wormwood |
| 11:26.14 | keks-n | yep |
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| 11:27.02 | mece | keks-n, ok so what about it? |
| 11:28.12 | keks-n | >> "And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter." (Revelation 8:10, 11 - KJB). |
| 11:28.42 | SpeedEvil | That actually refers to the Schwepps factory. |
| 11:28.47 | mece | ok.. yes, and what about it? |
| 11:28.50 | trx | lol |
| 11:28.58 | keks-n | >> Chernobyl means wormhood in ukrainian |
| 11:29.04 | keks-n | -_- |
| 11:29.07 | mece | revelations is hilariously trippy btw :D |
| 11:29.08 | keks-n | *wormwood |
| 11:29.11 | RST38h | Are we having an apocalypse universary today? |
| 11:29.17 | mece | keks-n, hah built to fail :D |
| 11:29.23 | SpeedEvil | looks around for Norns. |
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| 11:29.38 | RST38h | anniversary sorry |
| 11:30.29 | keks-n | Something like that |
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| 11:35.01 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: 25y Chernobyl |
| 11:37.18 | DocScrutinizer | sorry for OT |
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| 11:38.06 | DocScrutinizer | was baffled by my own balpark evaluation of one fatality per month on every nuklear power plant |
| 11:40.06 | mece | DocScrutinizer, is that a lot or a little? |
| 11:40.46 | ShadowJK | the same figure for coal power is something like 20-100 I bet |
| 11:41.32 | DocScrutinizer | which isn't a problem in Russia and China, in EU would reduce the ROI balance of those powerplants by a few percent on usual recompensations about <10^6EUR/fatality, but in USA it might break the power companies' back |
| 11:42.49 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: 20..100 fatalities per month and coal poer plant? c'mon |
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| 11:43.29 | ShadowJK | oh I thought you meant global fatalities per month |
| 11:43.39 | ShadowJK | not per month per plant |
| 11:44.45 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: not yet, you have to wait til whole bangladesh gets killed by rising sea due to global warming, then you might reach a 20/plant-month |
| 11:45.24 | ShadowJK | Well I was guessng few hundred coal miner fatalities per year |
| 11:46.48 | DocScrutinizer | I was guessing a 100.000 liquidators every 25 years |
| 11:47.24 | DocScrutinizer | and a 500 NPPs on earth |
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| 11:50.13 | merlin1991 | NPP? |
| 11:50.47 | BCMM | nuclear power plant |
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| 11:54.44 | cityLights | what is the difference between using gobject.timeout_add() and alarmd event? |
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| 12:01.06 | DocScrutinizer | good question. Probably gobject.timeout is a simple kernel timer, while alarmd is a real RTC alarm that fires even when device is shut off |
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| 12:03.50 | cityLights | thanks |
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| 12:15.05 | ShadowJK | <ShadowJK> heh. that's amusing.. I set out a sequence of web tasks to complete, timed it with different devices and browsers, /ignoring/ browser startup time |
| 12:15.26 | ShadowJK | <ShadowJK> N810 MicroB: 2.5 minutes. N900/M5 MicroB: 1.5m, N900/M5 Opera: 1m, N900/M5 Fennec: 2.5m |
| 12:16.11 | ShadowJK | To be fair, N810 cheated a bit. on N900 I have to zoom in/out, but not on N810 |
| 12:17.03 | SpeedEvil | On the maemo wiki - is there a way to get a list of a users edits? |
| 12:17.26 | SpeedEvil | nvm |
| 12:17.28 | SpeedEvil | gotit |
| 12:18.32 | ShadowJK | the defined tasks being simple: open a webshop, click category, click subcategory, open new tab/window for 3 products, close first tab/window, find price, stock level, date on all 3 and close. |
| 12:18.49 | ShadowJK | fairly common browser use I'd think? |
| 12:19.31 | ShadowJK | If you singletask, fennec is slightly less bad. :p |
| 12:20.31 | ShadowJK | (but opera is more awesome even because back button is near instant) |
| 12:20.55 | ruskie | I would asume because it keeps it in memory all the time |
| 12:21.08 | cityLights | can I get any sql help regrding the calender here? |
| 12:21.49 | DocScrutinizer | ~ask |
| 12:21.49 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 12:22.00 | ShadowJK | i remember an early fennec did this too, but now its ram use is so extreme it's probably slower if it didnt reload ;p |
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| 12:23.03 | cityLights | assming I know utc now, how can I ask the calender for the next coming meeting? |
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| 12:23.40 | cityLights | I used this to see if there is a meeting now: |
| 12:23.42 | cityLights | select Summary from Components where ComponentType='1' and DateStart <= "+ now +" and DateEnd >= " +now |
| 12:24.52 | cityLights | select Summary from Components where ComponentType='1' and DateStart <= now and DateEnd >= now |
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| 12:28.20 | DocScrutinizer | you're aware of http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=55018 ? I'd guess it has some examples in their code that are useful |
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| 12:58.14 | MOUD | Hey all |
| 12:58.22 | MOUD | !extras |
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| 12:59.25 | MOUD | are extra-devel and extra-testing working? I just formated my device and after adding those 2 packages they r not working. The Maemo Extras is working fine. |
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| 13:10.28 | crashanddie | "My girlfriend and I love to role play during sex. She pretends to be catwoman, and I pretend to love her." |
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| 13:12.49 | kerio | lol |
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| 14:31.30 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | http://maemo.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog |
| 14:32.02 | DocScrutinizer | *sigh* |
| 14:32.13 | *** mode/#maemo [+v apt] by ChanServ |
| 14:33.06 | chem|st | ~hello |
| 14:33.06 | apt | Howdy Bub |
| 14:33.36 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer: infobot still dead? |
| 14:33.45 | DocScrutinizer | again |
| 14:34.03 | chem|st | oh again is even more painfull than "still" |
| 14:34.05 | cityLights | as currentdB.exectue() returns a sqlite3 object, how can I read the first item in it without a for loop? |
| 14:34.18 | cityLights | sorry I seek python sqlite3 help |
| 14:34.23 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, and especially since |
| 14:34.28 | DocScrutinizer | ~+chaninfo |
| 14:34.28 | apt | I'm on 33 channels: #maemo/389, #debian/74, #gsoc/32, #kde/31, #oe/12, #wowace/12, #infobot/11, #wowuidev/10, #bzflag/8, #openmoko/6, #openmoko-cdevel/5, #sc2mapster/4, #htc-linux/4, #gllug/3, #uphpu/3, #tomcat/3, #utah/2, #edev/2, #slug/2, #debianppc/2, #openjtag/2, #uclibc/2, #curseforge/2, #elive/1, #brlcad/1, #wowroster/1, #norganna/1, ##ducleague/1, #lugwv/1, ##guleague/1, #debian-bots/1, #openezx/0 |
| 14:34.28 | apt | i've cached 629 users, 600 unique users, distributed over 33 channels. |
| 14:34.40 | SpeedEvil | quack |
| 14:34.44 | DocScrutinizer | should be like 111,3000 |
| 14:35.01 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer: ouch |
| 14:35.16 | SpeedEvil | mayb it only notices users that talk to it? |
| 14:36.01 | DocScrutinizer | no, it only notices users on channels it's logged in to |
| 14:36.25 | DocScrutinizer | and even there it fails epically |
| 14:36.33 | merlin1991 | ~seen merlin1991 |
| 14:36.42 | apt | merlin1991 is currently on #maemo. Has said a total of 80 messages. Is idling for 9s, last said: '~seen merlin1991'. |
| 14:37.12 | DocScrutinizer | e.g. openmoko-cdevel has 83 users, not 5 |
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| 14:39.13 | DocScrutinizer | tim told me the mysql db got somehow corrupt, he restored it some 2 days ago |
| 14:39.22 | SpeedEvil | Could they be numbers that talk? |
| 14:39.46 | smooph_web | hey guys I have a problem with video capture ... I am recording my lectures and the problem is the power for a 2h recording ... is there a way to turn the display off while recording? |
| 14:39.49 | DocScrutinizer | nfc really - at least they're not supposed to afaik |
| 14:39.57 | DocScrutinizer | see #maemo |
| 14:40.04 | SpeedEvil | smooph_web: hmm |
| 14:40.42 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, good question |
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| 14:40.55 | smooph_web | I took a look around but the "Show captured Video" is about after the recording |
| 14:40.57 | DocScrutinizer | reduce backlight to minimum is probably best you can do |
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| 14:41.10 | smooph_web | DocScrutinizer: already did that |
| 14:41.55 | smooph_web | 2 hour class works ... battery backup for the next one is bought but the 3hour one doesn't work |
| 14:42.25 | DocScrutinizer | USB power pack? |
| 14:42.35 | smooph_web | right now I am draining my laptops battery with the usb port to give my n900 that little bit of extra juice |
| 14:42.47 | DocScrutinizer | or that |
| 14:43.03 | SpeedEvil | I assume you need video, not audio? |
| 14:43.10 | smooph_web | correct |
| 14:43.36 | DocScrutinizer | well, camera chip and compressing eat some energy |
| 14:43.43 | DocScrutinizer | no matter what |
| 14:44.08 | smooph_web | of course but I suspect the display is the real drain ... |
| 14:44.12 | DocScrutinizer | reducing video resolution might help, but I'm not aware of a way to do this |
| 14:44.16 | SpeedEvil | smooph_web: It's not |
| 14:44.23 | SpeedEvil | smooph_web: At least if you dim it. |
| 14:44.28 | Zandor | hi can someone help me with my n900 |
| 14:44.35 | DocScrutinizer | ~ask |
| 14:44.35 | apt | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 14:44.37 | SpeedEvil | smooph_web: A major issue may be reformatting the picture and putting it onto the screen |
| 14:44.37 | Zandor | my phone app keeps popping up |
| 14:45.20 | DocScrutinizer | switch off auto-popup on rotation in phone app's settings |
| 14:45.26 | smooph_web | SpeedEvil: I cannot reduce the quality its needed |
| 14:45.59 | Zandor | ty @DocScutinizer |
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| 14:46.46 | smooph_web | welll I guess I have to live with it and maybe invest in a usb battery backup |
| 14:47.08 | smooph_web | this way at least my laptop can stay in the bag |
| 14:48.10 | DocScrutinizer | 3 primary cells a` 1.5V should suffice |
| 14:48.32 | DocScrutinizer | or 4 NiMH a` 1.2V |
| 14:49.23 | DocScrutinizer | just make sure you're never exceeding 6V |
| 14:49.50 | smooph_web | is there a batterypack thats recommended? |
| 14:50.14 | DocScrutinizer | Nokia has some USB pack with regulator afaik |
| 14:51.08 | billmania | smooph_web: There's an article on talk.maemo.org which has tested and recommends these batteries: http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/367257966-Lithium-ion-Battery-for-Nokia-BL-5J-for-5230-5800XM-5233-N900-1420mAh-Free-Shipping-wholesalers.html |
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| 14:51.27 | billmania | smooph_web: I haven't yet tried them myself, but plan to buy one. |
| 14:51.50 | DocScrutinizer | smooph_web is asking for external USB powerpacks |
| 14:51.55 | Zandor | I am sorry this may be out of context but have you tried mugen power batteries for n900 |
| 14:52.17 | DocScrutinizer | this indeed might be a solution |
| 14:52.25 | billmania | DocScrutinizer: Understood. |
| 14:55.15 | smooph_web | billmania: & DocScrutinizer 100$ is a little too much for my taste ... I think I will look for a usb backup unit |
| 14:55.30 | DocScrutinizer | yeah |
| 14:55.45 | billmania | smooph_web: The batteries from aliexpress are only about USB 10 each. |
| 14:55.52 | billmania | (if you buy three at a time) |
| 14:57.05 | smooph_web | billmania: sorry I dont understand what you are saying? |
| 15:00.43 | billmania | smooph_web: One option of many for increasing the operating time of your N900 is to increase the battery capacity. |
| 15:00.44 | DocScrutinizer | smooph_web: http://www.online-superpreis.de/kfz-outdoor/outdoor/cabstone-solar-not-ladegeraet-mit-integr-5-5v-1000mah-li-po-akku/a-608/ |
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| 15:01.24 | billmania | The replacement batteries at http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/367257966-Lithium-ion-Battery-for-Nokia-BL-5J-for-5230-5800XM-5233-N900-1420mAh-Free-Shipping-wholesalers.html provide more capacity than the standard Nokia-provided N900 battery. |
| 15:01.41 | billmania | If you buy a package of three of those batteries from aliexpress, the cost is approximately USD 10 each. |
| 15:01.47 | smooph_web | DocScrutinizer: hehe im hörsaal leider nicht so praktisch befürchte ich :D |
| 15:02.09 | DocScrutinizer | smooph_web: it has a 1000mA LiIon battery |
| 15:02.15 | billmania | DocScrutinizer has also suggested the replacement battery from Mugen Power, which has much more capacity than even the aliexpress batteries. |
| 15:04.32 | smooph_web | billmania: I understand but that just a question of money 100$ vs 10$ a student will always choose the second option |
| 15:05.11 | billmania | smooph_web: Unless the student does a cost benefit analysis and calculates how much longer the Mugen battery will power the N900. :-D |
| 15:05.53 | smooph_web | DocScrutinizer: ohh I didn't see that ... I will look around maybe thats an option |
| 15:06.46 | smooph_web | billmania: I only need another 30-60min :D but youre probably right ... |
| 15:10.06 | Cor-Ai | is there somthing like fbrun(fluxbox) for maemo? |
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| 15:11.16 | SpeedEvil | Or unless they invest $20 in a cheap camcorery thingy |
| 15:12.33 | smooph_web | SpeedEvil: thought about that too ... thing is ... I don't think my professors would like me to tape their lectures not even for personal use only |
| 15:12.45 | SpeedEvil | Ah |
| 15:12.55 | smooph_web | so the n900 is kind of a nice spycam |
| 15:13.12 | SpeedEvil | looks at his connectors that hea meant to build a right-angle USB thingy with |
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| 15:16.17 | jacekowski | smooph_web: ask them |
| 15:16.34 | jacekowski | smooph_web: a lot of them will let you record and stuff |
| 15:21.01 | smooph_web | trust me ... the ones I am recording won't ... the won't even create a script of the lecture ... |
| 15:22.32 | DocScrutinizer | you want to control the red privacy indicator I guess. lfocus pkg does that |
| 15:22.40 | SpeedEvil | Tape does it too. |
| 15:22.50 | DocScrutinizer | lol, yeah |
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| 15:25.25 | smooph_web_ | the n900 has micro usb right ? :) |
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| 15:25.42 | jacekowski | yes |
| 15:25.49 | jacekowski | unless somebody breaks it |
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| 15:26.11 | plunked | hey guys |
| 15:26.26 | plunked | anyone compiled qt4.7 on scratchbox before? |
| 15:27.29 | Khertan | plunked: me why ? |
| 15:28.07 | plunked | @khertan: I'm having some errors getting it to compile |
| 15:28.26 | plunked | i was wondering if there were any gotchas regarding its compilation on scratchbox |
| 15:29.18 | Khertan | compilations works out of the box + some missing library install |
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| 15:30.15 | smooph_web_ | http://tinyurl.com/6a8ryac DocScrutinizer how about this one ? |
| 15:30.43 | plunked | @Khertan: okay, i'll go take a look and check which libraries im missing |
| 15:30.44 | plunked | thanks :) |
| 15:32.05 | keks-n | Lol, somebody have already tried to build Mono 2.6.7 in the autobuilder |
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| 15:34.13 | GAN900 | Engadget really has hit rock bottom |
| 15:34.20 | GAN900 | It's more political than tech. |
| 15:35.32 | keks-n | wtf |
| 15:35.50 | keks-n | There is no any package for armel in debian/control |
| 15:35.57 | keks-n | Why it compiles for it? |
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| 15:36.26 | xd13 | just ordered one of those scud batteries :) |
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| 15:38.10 | keks-n | There are also no packages with architecture "any" |
| 15:38.18 | keks-n | Only "i386" and "all" |
| 15:38.22 | keks-n | >_< |
| 15:40.19 | keks-n | cat debian/control |grep Architecture|sort -n|uniq |
| 15:40.19 | keks-n | Architecture: all |
| 15:40.19 | keks-n | Architecture: i386 |
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| 15:47.08 | keks-n | I hate it |
| 15:47.20 | keks-n | It still builds for armel |
| 15:50.36 | Corsac | Arch: any means it's arch-specific and needs to be rebuilt for every architecture |
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| 16:00.59 | keks-n | There is no packages with "any" |
| 16:01.07 | keks-n | There are packages with "all" |
| 16:01.36 | keks-n | Now created a wrapper for debian/rules which prevents building anything for ARM |
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| 16:09.34 | Corsac | keks-n: arch:any makes only sense in source package |
| 16:09.47 | keks-n | -_- |
| 16:09.55 | keks-n | I didn't use "any" |
| 16:10.03 | keks-n | I've used "all" |
| 16:10.14 | keks-n | but it still tries compile it for armel |
| 16:10.35 | Corsac | all means there's nothing arch specific (think perl/python/shell script for example) |
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| 16:10.48 | keks-n | When I create a source package with a single binary package for "all" it works properly |
| 16:11.19 | keks-n | When I upload a source package with i386 and "all" binary packages it tries to compile it for armel |
| 16:11.33 | Corsac | please show your debian/control |
| 16:12.07 | Corsac | (Architecture: any is more or less an alias for Architecture: amd64 i386 arm armel mip mipsel etc. etc.) |
| 16:13.16 | keks-n | http://pastebin.com/ZZzfEzPk |
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| 16:13.51 | keks-n | Failed to fetch http://stage/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/libh/libhtml-tree-perl/libhtml-tree-perl_3.23-1maemo5.1_all.deb 401 Authorization Required E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? Fetched 946kB in 2s (396kB/s) |
| 16:13.54 | keks-n | lolwtf |
| 16:14.34 | slonopotamus | hehe |
| 16:14.40 | keks-n | Someone has broken the repository |
| 16:14.42 | keks-n | Great |
| 16:14.43 | slonopotamus | keks-n: what country from? |
| 16:14.50 | keks-n | Russia |
| 16:15.15 | Corsac | ok so the package shouldn't even manage to be built at all on an armel buildd |
| 16:15.30 | keks-n | yep |
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| 16:17.21 | slonopotamus | keks-n: confirming 401 from russia. redirects to http://guide.opendns.com/?url=stage%2Fextras%2Ddevel%2Fpool%2Ffremantle%2Ffree%2Flibh%2Flibhtml%2Dtree%2Dperl%2Flibhtml%2Dtree%2Dperl%5F3%2E23%2D1maemo5%2E1%5Fall%2Edeb from europe |
| 16:17.41 | keks-n | I got this in the autobuilder |
| 16:17.52 | keks-n | The url itself is malformed |
| 16:18.05 | keks-n | >>http://stage/ |
| 16:18.29 | slonopotamus | yeah, i replaced it with repository.maemo.org |
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| 16:20.14 | keks-n | It looks like, that my `hack` works |
| 16:20.19 | keks-n | But I get this: |
| 16:20.23 | keks-n | dpkg-genchanges -sa -eAutomatic Builder <builder@maemo.org> >../mono-i386_2.10.1-4maemo1_armel.changes |
| 16:20.23 | keks-n | dpkg-genchanges: error: cannot read files list file: No such file or directory |
| 16:20.23 | keks-n | dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-genchanges gave error exit status 2 |
| 16:20.42 | keks-n | It should be in debian/files, right? |
| 16:20.51 | slonopotamus | that's the good side of 'hacks' :) |
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| 16:24.56 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | http://maemo.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog |
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| 16:29.36 | keks-n | HELL YEAH |
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| 16:29.46 | keks-n | It have passed the armel build |
| 16:30.37 | keks-n | Now building for i386 :3 |
| 16:32.15 | smooph | DocScrutinizer sorry to bug you again ... but did u see the link I sent u ? ... I think this one would work but I would like your opinion |
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| 16:34.02 | smooph | would this one work as a battery backup pack for the n900 ? |
| 16:34.03 | smooph | http://tinyurl.com/6a8ryac |
| 16:34.56 | smooph | 2,5k mAh should provide some extra power right ? |
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| 16:38.11 | DocScrutinizer | smooph: damn no. This one has "output 3.7V" |
| 16:38.40 | smooph | this is so much harder than i thought :D |
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| 16:48.54 | DocScrutinizer | infobot: +uptime |
| 16:49.05 | DocScrutinizer | infobot: chaninfo |
| 16:49.05 | infobot | I'm on 111 channels: #debian/1140, #meego/451, #gsoc/402, #maemo/389, #kde/384, #asterisk/221, #oe/171, #wowace/163, #wowhead/162, #wowuidev/158, #openmoko/111, #webos-internals/107, #htc-linux/106, #openmoko-cdevel/84, #utah/79, #sc2mapster/64, #asterisk-dev/62, #tomcat/61, #bzflag/57, #curseforge/57, #uclibc/54, #edev/53, #slug/42, #uphpu/40, #gllug/37, #elinux/37, #norganna/31, #/30, #storm/30, #utos/28, #asterisk-bugs/27, #brlcad/27, #buglabs/24, ... |
| 16:49.05 | infobot | i've cached 5384 users, 3995 unique users, distributed over 111 channels. |
| 16:49.24 | *** mode/#maemo [+v infobot] by ChanServ |
| 16:50.20 | slonopotamus | infobot: now you ban yourself for excessive flood |
| 16:53.45 | DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: could you set /cs access #maemo infobot VOP (+vV) please? I'm missing +f so can't do it |
| 16:57.50 | keks-n | dh_installdocs -s cp: cannot stat `debian/changelog.1': No such file or directory dh_installdocs: cp -a debian/changelog.1 debian/mono-runtime/usr/share/doc/mono-runtime returned exit code 1 make: *** [binary-arch] Error 2 dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules binary-arch gave error exit status 2 |
| 16:57.59 | keks-n | After 30 minutes of compilation |
| 16:58.03 | keks-n | TOXIC RAGE |
| 17:01.05 | DocScrutinizer | slonopotamus: infobot can't ban people, not even herself. I didn't give her +o |
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| 17:01.20 | slonopotamus | poor soul |
| 17:01.46 | DocScrutinizer | but heh, I could do ;-D |
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| 17:05.33 | hatake_kakashi | giving op to a bot that can do regexp search and replace reminds me of some place I've been to awhile back. Where the bot would kick you for feeding it wrong regexp search and replace syntaxes, even if you accidentally left the end of replace syntax out the bot still kicks you. :) |
| 17:08.52 | hatake_kakashi | i.e. `s/foo/bar' <-- note the missing character at the end, just for not ending it correctly the bot kicks you. |
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| 17:31.36 | keks-n | wtf |
| 17:31.53 | keks-n | It haven't packaged any managed code |
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| 17:36.04 | DocScrutinizer | hatake_kakashi: fun |
| 17:36.30 | *** mode/#maemo [+o infobot] by ChanServ |
| 17:36.41 | DocScrutinizer | infobot: IDIOT! |
| 17:36.41 | infobot | idiot is, like, you |
| 17:36.54 | DocScrutinizer | see, she's peaceful |
| 17:36.58 | hatake_kakashi | DocScrutinizer, indeed, one learns quickly to not make mistakes so easily after getting kicked for making lousy mistakes |
| 17:37.11 | DocScrutinizer | s/see/SDF fsdfacf |
| 17:37.20 | hatake_kakashi | s/lousy mistakes/lousy mistake/ |
| 17:37.21 | *** mode/#maemo [-o infobot] by ChanServ |
| 17:38.02 | hatake_kakashi | at least I should see it as a relief from that even though now I try to use the syntax more properly rather than sluggishly ;) |
| 17:38.42 | DocScrutinizer | ~botsnack |
| 17:38.42 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: thanks |
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| 17:38.49 | DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: ping |
| 17:41.53 | keks-n | It looks like, that the autobuilder always tries to build packages with architecture "all" under armel if there are some packages with another architecture |
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| 17:44.54 | DocScrutinizer | GAN900: ping |
| 17:45.00 | keks-n | Get:7 http://stage fremantle/free libxml-regexp-perl 0.03-7maemo1 [7628B] |
| 17:45.00 | keks-n | Get:8 http://stage fremantle/free libxml-dom-perl 1.44-1maemo1 [186kB] |
| 17:45.00 | keks-n | Failed to fetch http://stage/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/libx/libxml-perl/libxml-perl_0.08-1maemo1_all.deb 401 Authorization Required |
| 17:45.08 | keks-n | What the... |
| 17:45.19 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 17:46.45 | keks-n | sends the ray of HATE to the author of the autobuilder |
| 17:49.08 | keks-n | >>Could not determine build arch |
| 17:49.10 | keks-n | wtf |
| 17:49.55 | keks-n | Actually what does it mean? |
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| 17:51.54 | D_Cent | hi |
| 17:52.08 | keks-n | Where can I get the source of this file? |
| 17:52.18 | D_Cent | my N900 doesn't book anymore - is there a way to e.g. only flash the rootfs so i can keep the MyDocs folder? |
| 17:52.37 | D_Cent | *book -> boot |
| 17:53.53 | keks-n | Extract files from the image and reflash only rootfs |
| 17:55.04 | keks-n | flasher-3.5 --unpack=IMAGE |
| 17:55.21 | keks-n | flasher-3.5 --rootfs=rootfs_bla_bla -f |
| 17:56.09 | D_Cent | keks-n: thanks, i will try that |
| 17:57.21 | D_Cent | do i need to run the flasher with root permissions? |
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| 17:58.33 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer: pong. |
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| 18:02.00 | keks-n | >>do i need to run the flasher with root permissions? |
| 18:02.10 | keks-n | Only for flashing |
| 18:04.33 | D_Cent | hmm.. i get "Unable to enumerate USB buses" |
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| 18:08.35 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: why don't even you have +f ? |
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| 18:11.32 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: >> If you are not a founder, you may only manipulate flags you have yourself, and may not edit users that have flags you don't have. For this purpose, +v grants +V, +o grants +O... |
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| 18:15.14 | Damnshock | hey guys |
| 18:15.21 | Damnshock | I'm having trouble trying to flash a kernel image |
| 18:15.24 | Damnshock | for meego |
| 18:15.32 | Damnshock | Unable to enumerate USB devices! |
| 18:15.42 | Damnshock | I'm getting that message, any help will be apreciated |
| 18:17.32 | DocScrutinizer | lsmod |
| 18:17.44 | DocScrutinizer | ~flash |
| 18:17.45 | infobot | it has been said that flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 18:18.39 | Damnshock | http://pastebin.centos.org/37195 |
| 18:19.04 | Damnshock | infobot: I've tried that guide |
| 18:19.07 | Damnshock | and its solutions |
| 18:19.09 | Damnshock | still no success |
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| 18:19.13 | Jartza | Damnshock: http://www.absolutelytech.com/2010/04/18/solved-unable-to-enumerate-usb-device-disabling-ehci_hcd/ |
| 18:19.16 | Jartza | that helped for me |
| 18:19.43 | Jartza | specifically the "Update" -section |
| 18:20.20 | Jartza | worth a try, as it doesn't make permanent changes |
| 18:20.58 | Damnshock | thanks Jartza, gonna look into it |
| 18:22.20 | Damnshock | well, now the message is different |
| 18:22.28 | Damnshock | USB device found found at bus 004, device address 005. |
| 18:22.28 | Damnshock | Error claiming USB interface: Device or resource busy |
| 18:23.41 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer: talk to X-Fade for founder issues. |
| 18:24.21 | DocScrutinizer | lsmod |
| 18:24.23 | DocScrutinizer | ~flash |
| 18:24.23 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 18:24.58 | maybeHere | dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun |
| 18:25.01 | maybeHere | FLASH! |
| 18:25.02 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: mhm, alas he's a rare visitor |
| 18:25.05 | maybeHere | AA-AAH |
| 18:25.17 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer: email should work. |
| 18:25.25 | cityLights | can anyone very this idea ? http://www.flickr.com/photos/nivw/5658073749/in/photostream |
| 18:25.44 | cityLights | I am tring to make a program to silence the phone when I am in a meeting |
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| 18:28.50 | Damnshock | you can point to that guide as many times as you like |
| 18:28.54 | Damnshock | still no success |
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| 18:39.22 | dongood | hello |
| 18:39.26 | dongood | how are ou do all |
| 18:39.32 | dongood | i am here to trade |
| 18:41.12 | abissom | likes businessmen :P |
| 18:41.16 | abissom | ;) |
| 18:41.46 | dongood | ok abissom i am here for bussinee |
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| 18:44.05 | abissom | let's hear what you have to offer dongood |
| 18:44.31 | dongood | ok i will like you to contact me by email ok |
| 18:44.36 | dongood | here is my email |
| 18:44.45 | dongood | rssba.dept58@gmail.com |
| 18:45.17 | abissom | :/ |
| 18:45.53 | dongood | ok you can contac me by email ok |
| 18:46.23 | abissom | no. of course not. i don't even know what you have to offer |
| 18:46.24 | abissom | :P |
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| 18:47.18 | DocScrutinizer | dongood: see /topic! |
| 18:47.24 | dongood | that why i say you can contac me by email so i will say to you im will be bcak in the 30mins ok ? |
| 18:47.39 | dongood | i need to attend to me worker now |
| 18:47.52 | DocScrutinizer | no trading here |
| 18:48.24 | DocScrutinizer | dongood: what is N900? |
| 18:48.24 | abissom | remembers the rule now |
| 18:48.50 | DocScrutinizer | meh |
| 18:48.56 | *** kick/#maemo [dongood!~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg] by DocScrutinizer (WTF?!) |
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| 18:50.08 | Gh0sty | maybe he wanted to trade his n900 for an iphone! :P |
| 18:50.32 | DocScrutinizer | if he did, he could've answered my question |
| 18:51.16 | abissom | i don't trust the guy at all |
| 18:51.23 | DocScrutinizer | the missing ban is for the marginal chance he really wanted to trade Nokia phones and just been busy |
| 18:51.40 | DocScrutinizer | abissom: nigerian conection |
| 18:51.55 | DocScrutinizer | live spam |
| 18:52.18 | DocScrutinizer | ooops |
| 18:52.22 | *** mode/#maemo [-o DocScrutinizer] by ChanServ |
| 18:52.36 | DocScrutinizer | aah no ooops |
| 18:52.39 | abissom | nigerian: i'm actually from africa myself :) |
| 18:52.45 | DocScrutinizer | np |
| 18:53.00 | DocScrutinizer | but there's a notorious crew over there |
| 18:53.10 | DocScrutinizer | a whole business |
| 18:53.45 | hatake_kakashi | I wonder if they've also gotten desperate. It all started in the form of emails, now its spreading across to something as old as IRC |
| 18:54.49 | hatake_kakashi | oh I've just remembered they've also trolled on forums as well |
| 18:56.56 | DocScrutinizer | ping me if he comes back |
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| 18:59.04 | rm_work | if something totally breaks my touchscreen, is there a way to kill an app with just the keyboard? |
| 18:59.38 | FIQ | ctrl+shift+x get root, killall process |
| 18:59.40 | FIQ | :) |
| 19:00.07 | rm_work | hrm |
| 19:00.08 | rm_work | ok... |
| 19:00.13 | rm_work | i guess it killed ALL input |
| 19:00.57 | rm_work | it comes in/out of sleep, camera app opens and closes when i slide the camera lens open and shut, and it pops the menu when i hit tap the power button |
| 19:01.01 | rm_work | so it isn't frozen |
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| 19:01.33 | rm_work | *when i tap the power button |
| 19:01.45 | rm_work | i guess i'll just reboot it >_> |
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| 19:02.12 | FIQ | lol, sounds exactly as the behaviour when I started an extra X session |
| 19:02.15 | FIQ | then it went like that |
| 19:02.43 | rm_work | i ran the digia@scene app and tried to watch a video |
| 19:02.43 | rm_work | lol |
| 19:03.08 | rm_work | it popped a menu telling me i needed to enter my account info for youtube, and bam, inputs dead |
| 19:04.28 | DocScrutinizer | I had that sometimes when a modal requester got opened *behind* the current screen |
| 19:05.05 | DocScrutinizer | I think ctrl-bs got me to the requester and I was able to close it |
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| 19:12.01 | keks-n | Ehm |
| 19:12.22 | keks-n | It looks like that it was successfully built |
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| 19:12.41 | keks-n | But I cann't see it at http://maemo.org/packages |
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| 19:20.47 | DocScrutinizer | takes a while |
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| 19:28.44 | keks-n | Does it keep "Original-Maintainer" fields after the build? |
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| 19:30.46 | keks-n | Hm... |
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| 19:33.04 | keks-n | BTW, who is Daniel Spies? |
| 19:33.26 | keks-n | It says that he is the maintainer of mono-runtime |
| 19:33.44 | keks-n | But he didn't uploaded anything that was build, lol |
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| 19:49.47 | DocScrutinizer | fsck mono |
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| 19:54.26 | mc_teo | hey |
| 19:54.33 | mc_teo | you know sphinx? |
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| 19:55.00 | mc_teo | there is a garage page for pocketsphinx, but yet not on the repos |
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| 19:56.21 | andre__ | mc_teo, maybe nobody has packaged it yet? |
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| 19:56.39 | mc_teo | andre__: but its been there for ages |
| 19:57.10 | andre__ | the "but" in that sentence doesn't make much sense :-P |
| 20:01.45 | Venemo | There was an error while trying to connect to the Telepathy Account Manager. The error was: |
| 20:01.46 | Venemo | Process /usr/libexec/mission-control-5 received signal 11 |
| 20:01.53 | Venemo | I've been getting this from Telepathy for a week now |
| 20:02.07 | RST38h | It is dead, Jim. |
| 20:02.21 | RST38h | You take its tricorder, and I will take his purse. |
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| 20:05.50 | keks-n | >>W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/dists/fremantle-1.3/free/binary-armel/Packages 401 Unauthorized [IP: 92.123.68.43 80] |
| 20:06.12 | keks-n | Somebody has broken the repository |
| 20:07.20 | keks-n | Also, why sphinx? Lucene shows pretty good perfomance |
| 20:09.35 | keks-n | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72528&highlight=401+Unauthorized |
| 20:09.46 | keks-n | I'm not alone who is affected |
| 20:14.48 | keks-n | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/dists/fremantle-1.3/non-free/binary-armel/ - it can be even browsed |
| 20:15.03 | keks-n | But no file can be downloaded |
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| 21:11.56 | vi___ | is there a hardware accelerated video player for n900 that doesnt suck balls |
| 21:12.04 | vi___ | ala media player |
| 21:12.57 | DocScrutinizer | only mafw has video accel |
| 21:13.29 | DocScrutinizer | afaik. nokia media player is using mafw |
| 21:14.32 | vi___ | mmm. every video i try plays for about 1 second then craps out saying media unsupported (which is shite) |
| 21:14.52 | pupnik | sounds like a bug |
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| 21:15.15 | vi___ | is there a solution that doesnt involve me chewing up 35% cpu? |
| 21:15.28 | DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Multimedia_Domain |
| 21:15.57 | pupnik | lol |
| 21:16.05 | pupnik | want to play back video with no cpu |
| 21:16.06 | DocScrutinizer | vi___: you OC'd the device ? (or anybody else did?) |
| 21:16.47 | pupnik | i did briefly |
| 21:17.02 | Dhraakellian | vi___: yes, swallow the CPU% whole |
| 21:17.17 | cehteh | grr .. why dont they make mksquashfs backward compatible |
| 21:17.20 | DocScrutinizer | pupnik: breakdown of DSP after a few seconds sounds like burnout due to OC |
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| 21:18.57 | pupnik | ahh :) |
| 21:20.29 | DocScrutinizer | vi___ is telltale silent |
| 21:20.40 | pupnik | heheh |
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| 21:21.10 | DocScrutinizer | another OC fatality in my book |
| 21:21.26 | pupnik | i saw it a fe wtimes |
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| 21:31.27 | cehteh | ah cool .. with the correct squashfs version it works .. |
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| 21:32.18 | cehteh | 2GB saved :P |
| 21:32.41 | cehteh | has the stock kernel squashfs support? |
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| 21:34.38 | pupnik | nice to see ya cehteh |
| 21:34.45 | pupnik | what are you up to? |
| 21:35.21 | cehteh | http://monav.openstreetmap.de/ |
| 21:35.31 | cehteh | squashfs the germany big map :) |
| 21:36.08 | cehteh | oh stock kernel/device has fat .. no files bigger than 2GB .. pita :P |
| 21:36.11 | pupnik | nice |
| 21:36.29 | pupnik | could an openstreetmap client do a squashfs within a file? |
| 21:36.32 | cehteh | monav is awesome .. vector maps and instant routing |
| 21:37.12 | cehteh | mount -o loop -t squashfs foo.squash foo |
| 21:38.01 | pupnik | can that grow the filesize dynamically? |
| 21:38.10 | cehteh | nope these are static maps |
| 21:38.33 | cehteh | they are preprocessed for routing on a PC which needs a lot cpu and ram |
| 21:38.52 | pupnik | bad |
| 21:38.54 | cehteh | but then you get instant routing on the device which really works |
| 21:39.10 | cehteh | thats not bad .. thats the best routing you ever see |
| 21:39.14 | DocScrutinizer | but not for pedestrians/bike |
| 21:39.22 | cehteh | yes also pedestrian/bike |
| 21:39.28 | DocScrutinizer | o.O |
| 21:39.30 | DocScrutinizer | that's new |
| 21:39.34 | cehteh | yes :) |
| 21:39.39 | cehteh | and the speed is new |
| 21:39.45 | DocScrutinizer | umm |
| 21:39.54 | DocScrutinizer | how new? |
| 21:40.13 | cehteh | dunno how old the project is meanwhile but i think its little known |
| 21:40.31 | DocScrutinizer | meh, I've been one of the early adopters |
| 21:40.50 | cehteh | routing from lets say some little street in hamburg to some other little street in munich for a pedestrian takes just a blink of your eye |
| 21:40.54 | DocScrutinizer | and I've been told monav doesn't work for pedestrian |
| 21:41.01 | cehteh | works meanwhile |
| 21:41.08 | cehteh | didnt know you know it |
| 21:41.50 | DocScrutinizer | that's why I ask "HOW new?" |
| 21:41.52 | cehteh | the routing tables have to be generated for each mode ... meanwhile the maps include car, pedestrian and bile |
| 21:41.54 | cehteh | bike |
| 21:42.03 | DocScrutinizer | ooh |
| 21:42.35 | cehteh | bike doesnt include inclination weighting so its little bad on hills .. tbd |
| 21:42.38 | DocScrutinizer | so all I need to do is update my maps? |
| 21:42.43 | cehteh | yep |
| 21:42.57 | DocScrutinizer | k |
| 21:42.59 | cehteh | if you want i can put the germany_big squash on a server |
| 21:43.22 | DocScrutinizer | nfi |
| 21:43.34 | cehteh | du -sh Germany\ \(Big\)* |
| 21:43.34 | cehteh | 6.1GGermany (Big) |
| 21:43.34 | cehteh | 4.0GGermany (Big).squash |
| 21:43.44 | DocScrutinizer | yay |
| 21:44.06 | cehteh | well will take a bit to upload :P |
| 21:44.22 | cehteh | and first i want to try it here on my device, i tested with a smaller map |
| 21:44.28 | DocScrutinizer | will also need a bit to download. I think for now I can do without |
| 21:44.44 | cehteh | currently i have the non squashed installed .. deleting that now, i dont have a 32GB sd card :P |
| 21:45.05 | DocScrutinizer | neither |
| 21:45.45 | DocScrutinizer | ~wiki squashfs |
| 21:47.11 | DocScrutinizer | mhm |
| 21:47.20 | cehteh | Germany (Big).squash |
| 21:47.22 | cehteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.28 | cehteh | awesome dsl upstream :) |
| 21:47.38 | DocScrutinizer | tzz |
| 21:48.02 | DocScrutinizer | even mine is better ;-D |
| 21:48.26 | cehteh | i had to build v3.4 squashfs tools ... my debian squeeze has 4.0 which is incompatible |
| 21:48.33 | DocScrutinizer | I'm honestly considering to install X+KDE on my server - it has a 1GB backbone |
| 21:48.52 | cehteh | too bad that the squashfs people dont offer forward/backward compatibility |
| 21:49.08 | DocScrutinizer | when I dl'd a file of some MB size with wget, I thought WTF what went wrong??? |
| 21:49.15 | cehteh | squashfs is somewhat awesome, only this compatibility is biting me |
| 21:49.49 | DocScrutinizer | wget returned instantly |
| 21:49.50 | cehteh | its much faster than tar/gz, it preserves metadata, it compresses better |
| 21:50.06 | cehteh | haha SF download? |
| 21:50.15 | DocScrutinizer | SF? |
| 21:50.29 | cehteh | sourceforge |
| 21:50.54 | DocScrutinizer | don't remember, just recall it impressed the shit outa me |
| 21:50.59 | cehteh | alsways forgets this direct link pita and downloads some html stuff accidentally :P |
| 21:51.20 | pupnik | lol |
| 21:52.13 | DocScrutinizer | I think I copied some 40MB of source/backup from people.openmoko (hetzner) to my private box (hetzner) ;-P |
| 21:52.19 | cehteh | i wonder if the squashfs map is even faster .. 2GB less on the slow SD can make a difference |
| 21:52.41 | cehteh | hehe my server is at hetzner too |
| 21:53.14 | DocScrutinizer | hey, so I might fetch it to my box then, will take like 16s |
| 21:54.18 | cehteh | yes ... tuesday when i finished the uplaod :P |
| 21:54.24 | DocScrutinizer | hahaha |
| 21:54.30 | cehteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.43 | openess | hi. I'm having trouble flashing my N900. The flasher says "Unable to enumerate USB devices!" |
| 21:54.46 | DocScrutinizer | Wednesday |
| 21:55.07 | openess | Has anyone seen this before? |
| 21:55.16 | DocScrutinizer | or is that dd:hh:mm and you meant tuesday next month? |
| 21:55.38 | cehteh | haha |
| 21:56.10 | cehteh | damn upstream is full .. my network lags |
| 21:56.20 | openess | I using archlinux (newly upgraded) and the 3.5 flasher, as recommended on http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Updating_.26_Flashing_your_device |
| 21:56.28 | DocScrutinizer | openess: seriously it's not your fault but you're the third one today |
| 21:56.28 | openess | can this be a USB-hub thing? |
| 21:56.51 | cehteh | tried without a hub? |
| 21:56.52 | openess | lol.. sorry than :p |
| 21:57.12 | DocScrutinizer | 4th? |
| 21:57.41 | openess | well, yes. But I suspect that my regular USB-ports are actually a hub since this is a small netbook |
| 21:57.58 | DocScrutinizer | mhm, try all ports then |
| 21:58.08 | openess | did ;) |
| 21:58.24 | DocScrutinizer | see http://www.absolutelytech.com/2010/04/18/solved-unable-to-enumerate-usb-device-disabling-ehci_hcd/ |
| 21:58.40 | openess | Next step is trying a different computer, I'm copying the files right now |
| 21:59.03 | DocScrutinizer | carefully read thru http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Troubleshooting |
| 21:59.38 | DocScrutinizer | nah, read the whole complete friggin wikipage! |
| 22:00.24 | cehteh | troubleshouting :) |
| 22:00.27 | DocScrutinizer | unable to enum - usually means bad cable or similar crap |
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| 22:03.07 | openess | I feel like I've read that wiki over and over, I've been dreading this flash for over a month. fearing doing something wrong -_-' |
| 22:03.50 | openess | If my other computer doesn't do it I'll try another cable.. |
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| 22:13.06 | DocScrutinizer | try another OS |
| 22:13.12 | DocScrutinizer | ubuntu? |
| 22:13.38 | DocScrutinizer | just a wild guess - just everybody with such problems had ubuntu |
| 22:14.09 | DocScrutinizer | ooh archlinux |
| 22:14.28 | DocScrutinizer | whatever that is :-) |
| 22:15.08 | cityLights | can you pls look at this idea http://i52.tinypic.com/23ma42x.png |
| 22:15.18 | cityLights | can I optimize this? |
| 22:16.31 | pupnik | hmm? |
| 22:16.41 | SpeedEvil | cityLights: http://hdapk.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/flowchart-pulled-over.jpg |
| 22:17.42 | DocScrutinizer | cityLights: looks about right |
| 22:18.19 | cityLights | my mate told me to simply it by deciding after waking up |
| 22:19.07 | cityLights | SpeedEvil: nice |
| 22:20.00 | cityLights | I mean I must wake up and toggle the profile, then calculate the sleep duration again |
| 22:20.42 | cityLights | pupnik: I want my phone to move to silent when I am in a meeting |
| 22:20.43 | pupnik | find -mtime rules |
| 22:20.57 | pupnik | cityLights: set profile to silent? |
| 22:21.14 | cityLights | let my phone figure this out |
| 22:21.48 | pupnik | i'm curious about people whose lives use calendars :) |
| 22:21.50 | DocScrutinizer | cityLights: you could check current state (i.e. last event: start/end of meeting), then unconditionally set the profile accordingly, wind the timer for next event whatever it is, and go to sleep |
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| 22:22.42 | cityLights | right |
| 22:23.22 | cityLights | must I remeber the last profile I had , before setting up the timer? |
| 22:23.38 | DocScrutinizer | if you're using e.g alarmed for the timer, you don't even have to code a daemon |
| 22:23.44 | cityLights | I mean , as long as I wake up - I can toggle |
| 22:23.57 | DocScrutinizer | just build a simple execute and quit program |
| 22:24.22 | cityLights | I am using gobject.timeout_add() but alarmd is the next option |
| 22:24.57 | DocScrutinizer | aalarmed, not alarmd |
| 22:25.04 | DocScrutinizer | -a |
| 22:25.43 | cityLights | alarmed |
| 22:25.56 | cityLights | I use python |
| 22:26.19 | cityLights | how to event.alarm_action_set_exec_command("/usr/sbin/myAwesomeCommand.sh"); in python? |
| 22:26.41 | cityLights | .alarm_action_set_exec_command doent exist in import alarm |
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| 22:31.20 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# /opt/alarmed/alarmed.py --help |
| 22:31.22 | DocScrutinizer | Usage: alarmed.py -C -L |
| 22:31.23 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.25 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.01 | cityLights | help(alarm) has too much info - I seek an example |
| 22:32.16 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.18 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.19 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.21 | cityLights | that can issue a command |
| 22:32.37 | cityLights | hmm |
| 22:32.41 | cehteh | whats the max file size on the n900 FAT filesystem? 2GB right..or was it 4GB? |
| 22:32.45 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.46 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.48 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.10 | DocScrutinizer | cehteh: 2 afaik |
| 22:33.52 | cehteh | 4093908Germany (Big).squash .. so no chance then :P .. would be nice fit for 4GB |
| 22:34.06 | openess | this probarbly has something to do with hardware, because I got a new errormessage just "redoing" it a bunch of times |
| 22:34.17 | cehteh | works well when squashed .. i cant notice slowdown |
| 22:34.23 | openess | USB device found found at bus 001, device address 053. |
| 22:34.25 | openess | Error claiming USB interface: Device or resource busy |
| 22:34.39 | cehteh | lets route through germany |
| 22:34.45 | DocScrutinizer | carefully read thru http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Troubleshooting |
| 22:36.19 | cehteh | works :) |
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| 22:37.36 | openess | well, yes. I just wanted to let you know that you were probably right about it comming down to a "bad cable or similar crap" |
| 22:40.12 | pupnik | a gallon of gasoline is so cheap now |
| 22:40.16 | pupnik | less than 8 cents |
| 22:40.22 | pupnik | if you have a real silver dime |
| 22:41.48 | cityLights | by bye |
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| 22:46.17 | openess | No sucess yet. I'm giving up for today. It's the middle of the night |
| 22:46.18 | openess | bye |
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| 23:00.08 | clmbr | Hey all...is anybody familiar w/ water damaged N900. The device has been disassembled and dried out. But the screen is very dark and almost unusable? |
| 23:01.10 | SpeedEvil | How have you dried it out? |
| 23:01.16 | SpeedEvil | And was it clean water? |
| 23:01.46 | SpeedEvil | And how long between getting wet and removingthe battery |
| 23:02.10 | kerio | removing the battery is vital |
| 23:02.22 | kerio | second vital thing is cleaning everything with distilled water, i guess |
| 23:02.29 | clmbr | as son as i retrived it from the toliet |
| 23:02.39 | SpeedEvil | DIstilled water isn't really very critical - clean is |
| 23:02.53 | SpeedEvil | Pre or post-flush? |
| 23:02.57 | SpeedEvil | Was the water clear? |
| 23:03.09 | clmbr | pre |
| 23:03.36 | kerio | ew |
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| 23:03.47 | clmbr | excuse me-- i mean befor my business |
| 23:04.09 | kerio | whew |
| 23:04.09 | kerio | then it shouldn't be a big problem |
| 23:04.24 | kerio | clmbr: how long did you wait? |
| 23:04.41 | clmbr | just seconds maybe 5-10 |
| 23:06.04 | SpeedEvil | How did you try it? |
| 23:06.10 | kerio | no, i mean |
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| 23:06.24 | kerio | how much time did you wait before considering it dried? |
| 23:06.37 | SpeedEvil | dry it |
| 23:06.44 | clmbr | I took it apart and dried it with cotton balls and put it in a dry enviro for 30 ish hrs |
| 23:07.04 | clmbr | the device was on when it fell =/ |
| 23:07.14 | SpeedEvil | dry environment? |
| 23:07.19 | SpeedEvil | 30h isn't really enough IMO |
| 23:07.34 | SpeedEvil | Consider that the water can get into all of those little cans, and has rto evaporate |
| 23:07.46 | SpeedEvil | 30h@50C - maybe |
| 23:09.31 | clmbr | in the sun, and at night time i placed an electric heater blowing hot air onto the parts, on a towel. It powers on no telephone functions & the screen is very very dark--could it be a digitizer? |
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| 23:15.01 | SpeedEvil | Do you mean that the backlight is nonfunctional? |
| 23:15.41 | pupnik | anyone living in german do not buy "aro" brand "salsa hot dip" - niemals kaufen |
| 23:15.54 | pupnik | the first three ingredients: water, sugar, tomato paste ... |
| 23:16.58 | SpeedEvil | http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/441874106-fiber-clothes-fashion-clothes-factory-directly-sell-Fiber-optic-clothes-2011-hot-clothes-wholesalers.html |
| 23:17.46 | SpeedEvil | oops - wrong channel |
| 23:25.11 | clmbr | yes no backlight or the backlight is damaged, not sure if it is actually the screen or the digitizer itself? |
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| 23:32.08 | kwtm | This is interesting. The line "deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing fremantle-1.3 free non-free" works if it appears in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager but it doesn't work if I stick it in another file, like /etc/apt/sources.list.d/SomeOtherFile |
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