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| 00:01.54 | pupnik | http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-droid-3-leaks-again-with-5-row-qwerty-keyboard-dual-core-20110316/ dual-core phone with 5-row keyboard |
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| 00:07.01 | pupnik | my god, if that could run linux... |
| 00:08.40 | SpeedEvil | Android is linux. |
| 00:08.50 | SpeedEvil | Just not gnu/linux |
| 00:17.36 | pupnik | pedant :) |
| 00:18.57 | luke-jr | SpeedEvil: it's nto Linux either |
| 00:18.58 | luke-jr | it's a fork |
| 00:21.30 | pupnik | i was afraid hardware keyboards would become endangered species |
| 00:21.47 | luke-jr | they are |
| 00:21.53 | luke-jr | good ones even moreso |
| 00:22.32 | pupnik | well compare today and 2007 |
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| 00:22.46 | pupnik | more handhelds with hw keyboards now |
| 00:23.15 | pupnik | i mean qwerty |
| 00:23.32 | luke-jr | qwerty is a minus |
| 00:23.41 | SpeedEvil | I wonder about something like the microwriter |
| 00:24.10 | SpeedEvil | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MicroWriter,_AgendA,_and_CyKey.jpg |
| 00:24.17 | SpeedEvil | I had a microwriter Agenda |
| 00:24.32 | SpeedEvil | I wonder if it could be adapterd to keys round the edge of the device |
| 00:24.49 | SpeedEvil | In fact I still have the agenda |
| 00:26.20 | pupnik | you can type by twisting rotary knobs if you want. i'm not interested in such diversions |
| 00:26.35 | SpeedEvil | Fair enough. |
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| 00:28.18 | pupnik | i could imagine a chording device might be useful if it were in your front pocket,with a heads-up display in glasses |
| 00:28.59 | SpeedEvil | Yeah.For that nerd-masturbating-text-entry-chic |
| 00:29.14 | pupnik | discrete texting |
| 00:33.56 | cehteh | haha .. i prefer looking silly when typing text on my n900 than looking like wanking in the train :P |
| 00:38.17 | pupnik | discreet |
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| 04:36.27 | pupnik | did you see the maemo + mypaint speedtest |
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| 05:36.45 | ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/18/microsoft_word_supremecourt_i4i/ <-- if you can't win adjust the parameters so that you can... |
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| 06:25.49 | khertan_ | Morning |
| 06:29.54 | pupnik | moo :) |
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| 06:31.16 | chx | ~moo |
| 06:31.16 | infobot | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
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| 06:33.18 | vldcnst | ~cookie |
| 06:34.37 | chx | huh? |
| 06:34.42 | chx | how is that cookie? |
| 06:35.48 | vldcnst | no idea. |
| 06:35.52 | vldcnst | ~fsck infobot |
| 06:35.52 | infobot | e2fsck /dev/infobot : warning! filesystem contains idiots! |
| 06:42.46 | Khertan | Maemo SDK Install Try Number 12 |
| 06:43.19 | Khertan | after the qt segfault, the vdso32, the libc which was upgraded by mistake .... i hope it ll be ok this time |
| 06:43.20 | Khertan | :) |
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| 07:46.36 | robbiethe1st | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkllP1bvjEY&feature=player_detailpage Multitasking at 1.15ghz. :P |
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| 07:56.42 | chem|st | moaning |
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| 07:59.57 | chx | ~moo |
| 07:59.57 | infobot | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
| 08:00.13 | chem|st | ~botsnack |
| 08:00.13 | infobot | aw, gee, chem|st |
| 08:00.32 | chem|st | ~cough |
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| 08:00.39 | Robot101 | yogurt, curd, cream cheese & butter's made from liquid from my udders... |
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| 08:24.57 | crashanddie | Robot101, I don't want to know about your manboobs, and what oozes out of them, thank you very much |
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| 08:26.04 | RST38h | crashanddie: Still, I bet you will watch a youtube video, if available... |
| 08:26.14 | crashanddie | Not really |
| 08:26.24 | crashanddie | RST38h, http://bottleguy.com much? |
| 08:26.40 | RST38h | Dunno |
| 08:26.44 | RST38h | Meanwhile: ESRB To Automate Game Rating |
| 08:27.07 | RST38h | "To do this the organization has written a program designed to replicate the ingrained cultural norms and predilections of the everyday American consumer, at least when it comes to what is appropriate for children and what isnt." |
| 08:28.13 | ruskie | hahahaha |
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| 08:51.55 | crashanddie | just worked through a 12000 line commit |
| 08:52.05 | crashanddie | fuck me, now that's what I call integration ;) |
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| 09:05.34 | Khertan | just launch try 19 to install maemo sdk |
| 09:07.29 | Khertan | the reason this time is because i didn't have xterm |
| 09:07.30 | Khertan | :) |
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| 09:17.19 | djszapi | "Export contacts step 5/5: Failed" "Unable to save" -> is there any option to copy a file from the filesystem manually by using the terminal for instance instead of this Ui error ? |
| 09:17.34 | djszapi | I would like to export the contacts from this phone to another N900. |
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| 09:31.46 | Robot101 | crashanddie: :( it's the next line of the cow song |
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| 09:44.16 | lcuk | Robot101, I am sure I heard someone singing it loudly whilst drinking ale in Belgium |
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| 09:46.48 | chem|st | djszapi: copy the db |
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| 09:47.35 | djszapi | chem|st: more precisely ? |
| 09:47.51 | chem|st | djszapi: open xterm |
| 09:48.20 | chem|st | djszapi: cp .osso-abook/db/addressbook.db $yourlocation |
| 09:48.20 | djszapi | what db ? |
| 09:54.16 | chem|st | djszapi: also pc-suite is able to just copy&paste your entire abook |
| 09:56.22 | djszapi | http://paste.kde.org/13579/ -> Why do I get this message with a fresh N900 from the shop ? My other N900 works just fine. |
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| 09:57.33 | chem|st | djszapi: http://wiki.maemo.org/Manual_backup_and_restore |
| 09:58.20 | djszapi | chem|st: what should I check there ? |
| 09:58.35 | chem|st | abook backup |
| 09:58.47 | chem|st | there is a cli for the backup |
| 09:58.58 | djszapi | why do I need backup for a fresh gadget ? |
| 09:59.15 | chem|st | should save in vcf or something so you can use it with any other device or software |
| 09:59.39 | djszapi | I would like to connect to the fresh gadget over ssh. |
| 10:00.20 | chem|st | you can send the file via BT aswell |
| 10:00.41 | liar | djszapi: try pinging the computer from the device, and connect to the device at the same time :D ... seems stupid but works for me |
| 10:00.56 | chem|st | and no route to host means there is no .2.15 responding |
| 10:01.36 | mece | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8460300/Apple-sues-Samsung-for-slavish-copying-of-iPhone-and-iPad.html |
| 10:02.12 | djszapi | liar: ping: permission denied. (are you root?) |
| 10:02.36 | liar | sudo ping ... |
| 10:02.39 | liar | ^^ |
| 10:03.17 | djszapi | wow do I need to be sudo to ping. |
| 10:03.19 | chem|st | is an ssh server running? |
| 10:03.19 | djszapi | that is odd. |
| 10:03.43 | djszapi | what is the sudo password, not rootme |
| 10:03.47 | chem|st | djszapi: user should not be able to do anything, so not even ping |
| 10:03.55 | chem|st | just type root |
| 10:04.25 | chem|st | and without root password you wont be able to ssh to your device anyway |
| 10:04.29 | mece | bwuaaahahahahaha FTFA: "Samsungâs tablet, like Appleâs, uses a similar rectangular design with rounded corners" |
| 10:04.54 | chem|st | no root password set means you dont have a ssh server installed as the installscript forces you to set a password |
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| 10:05.17 | FauxFaux | chem|st: Actually, if you fail to enter a password before the screen locks it screws you. |
| 10:05.27 | chem|st | FauxFaux: oh nice |
| 10:05.39 | mece | chem|st, well you can unset the root password later and set a password for user, or create a new user and set a password for that... |
| 10:06.02 | chem|st | but becoming root on device and passwd it |
| 10:06.16 | chem|st | mece: we are talking LUser here not ROOT |
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| 10:07.06 | chem|st | mece: peops who got problems with copying files via ssh I doubt be more than a user |
| 10:07.37 | mece | well by user I meant the user user. not "a user". |
| 10:07.52 | djszapi | chem|st: wget does not require user. |
| 10:07.55 | djszapi | * root |
| 10:08.03 | chem|st | "for user, or create a new user" I get the difference! |
| 10:08.11 | djszapi | moreover, "root" does not really work |
| 10:08.23 | mece | root doesn't work? |
| 10:08.36 | chem|st | then you did not install rootsh yet |
| 10:08.57 | djszapi | of course not since I could not connect to the device yet. |
| 10:09.12 | djszapi | and I do not have wi-fi connection. |
| 10:09.12 | chem|st | djszapi: starting your browser does not require root either O_o |
| 10:09.46 | chem|st | djszapi: what about connecting the two devices directly to each other? |
| 10:10.23 | djszapi | not an option, please forget that now I have another device |
| 10:10.33 | djszapi | let us say I have this newly bought N900, how can I make it work for ssh ? |
| 10:10.37 | djszapi | from the desktop PC. |
| 10:12.16 | chem|st | install rootsh and after that OpenSSH Client and Server |
| 10:12.23 | robbiethe1st | ^^ |
| 10:13.26 | chem|st | you will be prompted for root password with the second install |
| 10:13.42 | djszapi | how to install them ? |
| 10:13.54 | chem|st | application manager? |
| 10:13.59 | djszapi | without internet ? |
| 10:14.02 | djszapi | how ? |
| 10:14.33 | chem|st | how would you get ssh open without it connected to a network? |
| 10:14.36 | liar | you could connect your device to the internet to get internet |
| 10:14.45 | robbiethe1st | download deb files, open in file manager |
| 10:14.48 | djszapi | liar: to my wired internet ? |
| 10:14.55 | djszapi | how to do that with no usb networking ? |
| 10:15.03 | djszapi | (with no ssh?) |
| 10:15.06 | liar | wifi? |
| 10:15.12 | chem|st | BT |
| 10:15.14 | djszapi | I do not have wi-fi as said ? |
| 10:15.20 | chem|st | bluetooth |
| 10:15.22 | liar | ah sry then |
| 10:15.24 | chem|st | usb |
| 10:15.31 | robbiethe1st | Uh... Just copy the .deb files into your card |
| 10:15.43 | chem|st | or ^^ |
| 10:15.48 | robbiethe1st | then open in the filemanager. it'll install with the app manager |
| 10:16.10 | djszapi | well what I was about is a mass storage stuff |
| 10:16.53 | chem|st | yes |
| 10:16.55 | chem|st | http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/fremantle/free/r/rootsh/rootsh_1.5_armel.deb |
| 10:17.00 | chem|st | thats the rootsh |
| 10:17.29 | chem|st | copy it by using usb-msd |
| 10:19.31 | chem|st | then copy the .osso-abook/db/addressbook.db to it as well (you dont need to install rootsh if it is only about that file |
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| 10:21.07 | djszapi | chem|st: same ssh error after installing the rootsh |
| 10:21.10 | chem|st | I would copy the full folders .osso-abook and .osso-abook-backup to the massstorage and then open a terminal (xterm) and mv them in place (msd is MyDocs and SD-Card but you want it to be in /home/user/ |
| 10:21.47 | chem|st | djszapi: if you got no usbnetwork then you got no internet and without ssh-server installed it makes no sense at all |
| 10:22.31 | djszapi | yeah, I need the openssh-server... |
| 10:22.53 | djszapi | root/rootme does not still work after installing rootsh tho. |
| 10:23.14 | frals | sudo gainroot; passwd? |
| 10:23.49 | chem|st | frals: for what he wants he doesn't need anything of that |
| 10:23.55 | djszapi | exactly. |
| 10:24.02 | djszapi | I need an openssh-server |
| 10:24.05 | djszapi | and all it is dependencies manually. |
| 10:24.23 | chem|st | djszapi: if you got no usb-netowrk up you don't need it |
| 10:24.40 | djszapi | wonder what you mean. |
| 10:24.52 | chem|st | if you got usb-network up just route it to the internet and install with app-manager... |
| 10:24.54 | frals | chem|st: wth is he trying to do? |
| 10:25.07 | chem|st | frals: copying his abook db... |
| 10:25.14 | djszapi | not really |
| 10:25.20 | djszapi | that is just one thing of the millions. |
| 10:25.29 | djszapi | which requires usb networking... |
| 10:25.31 | chem|st | djszapi: setup usb-netowrking |
| 10:25.39 | chem|st | first! |
| 10:25.48 | djszapi | how without openssh-server ? |
| 10:25.52 | chem|st | then give that brick internet! |
| 10:25.55 | djszapi | and all its dependencies manually ? |
| 10:26.14 | chem|st | djszapi: you dont need ssh to enable usb-networking... |
| 10:26.15 | SpeedEvil | djszapi: dropbear |
| 10:26.28 | chem|st | people STOP it |
| 10:26.47 | chem|st | he got root, now he needs usb-networking... |
| 10:30.30 | chem|st | djszapi: btw what are the "millions" of things you wanna do? |
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| 10:31.11 | djszapi | no idea how to set the usb network up...the other gadget works out-of-the-box... |
| 10:31.29 | djszapi | there should not be any problem on the host PC side and I can ping the host PC from the phone. |
| 10:31.52 | chem|st | you sure you got the IP right? |
| 10:32.03 | djszapi | absolutely. |
| 10:32.21 | chem|st | setup a gateway on your host so your n900 gets internets |
| 10:32.33 | djszapi | it is not about internet... |
| 10:32.53 | djszapi | I would like to use ssh, scp for now, if that works, usb networking is an easy thing. |
| 10:32.54 | chem|st | djszapi: but having internet makes the rest easier |
| 10:33.13 | djszapi | and the internet usage. Again then, what does not work from the beginning is the ssh connection. |
| 10:33.35 | djszapi | that is why I said the openssh server stuff ... |
| 10:33.42 | chem|st | djszapi: as long as you are not listening I wont help you anymore |
| 10:34.03 | chem|st | it saves you at least 30min if you setup the gateway |
| 10:34.14 | frals | this conversation is confusing :D |
| 10:34.39 | chem|st | frals: I feel like talking to a parking-clock |
| 10:36.28 | chem|st | djszapi: install any ssh server of your choice by hand via masstorage if you like to do so... but without your routing setup properly you only need an ssh client |
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| 10:40.02 | MohammadAG | /home/mohammad/QtSDK/Maemo/4.6.2/toolchains/arm-2007q3-51sb6-gdb71-arm-none-linux-gnueabi_linux_x86_64/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/4.2.1/../../../../arm-none-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtFeedback |
| 10:40.05 | MohammadAG | any suggestions? |
| 10:40.10 | MohammadAG | I have the .so where it should be |
| 10:40.34 | ruskie | it's in /lib or /usr/lib ? |
| 10:40.48 | frals | it has the wrong name? |
| 10:40.55 | MohammadAG | yes and no |
| 10:40.58 | ruskie | might need to pass it -L/path/to/where/libQtFeedback.so |
| 10:41.11 | ruskie | erm... sans the libQtFeedback.so |
| 10:41.56 | frals | MohammadAG: ls -l /usr/lib/libQtFeedback*? |
| 10:42.11 | djszapi | chem|st: no idea what you are talking about, sorry. |
| 10:42.36 | MohammadAG | meh, nevermind, just made 5 copies and overwrote the broken symlinks |
| 10:45.04 | djszapi | openssh-common/client/server are installed, still no ssh access. |
| 10:45.23 | frals | and how are you trying to connect to it? |
| 10:45.33 | frals | since you dont have usbnetworking or internet access? |
| 10:45.39 | djszapi | over ssh ? |
| 10:45.51 | djszapi | as just in case the other gadget ? |
| 10:46.10 | frals | what other gadget? |
| 10:46.13 | frals | one with usbnetworking? |
| 10:46.16 | djszapi | nvm |
| 10:47.02 | djszapi | not sure how usb networking or internet access is ssh access related... |
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| 10:47.19 | frals | well you kinda need some networking if you wnat to reach the device normally |
| 10:47.53 | frals | not sure how you would access the device without a network of some sorts |
| 10:47.54 | djszapi | not internet, nor usb networking. |
| 10:48.03 | djszapi | I mean not usb networking for internet |
| 10:48.05 | djszapi | just a simple one. |
| 10:48.21 | djszapi | not sure how to access the device with no internet ? |
| 10:48.31 | djszapi | well kinda no need for that if you wanna use only ssh |
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| 10:51.05 | djszapi | I think I run out of the ideas for ssh usage. I need to ask for help on the forum. |
| 10:53.00 | SpeedEvil | 'access the device withno internat' ? |
| 10:53.07 | SpeedEvil | ssh is not a means of connectivity |
| 10:53.19 | SpeedEvil | you cannot connect over ssh. SSH is a protocol that runs over a network. |
| 10:53.20 | djszapi | ssh access, yup. |
| 10:53.26 | djszapi | but no internet. |
| 10:53.26 | SpeedEvil | If you have no network, you cannot use SSH |
| 10:53.33 | djszapi | that is what I said ? |
| 10:54.00 | SpeedEvil | You need to bring the network up. Then work out what to do with ssh. |
| 10:54.29 | djszapi | that is what I have not the lightest about after everything seems to be okay. |
| 10:54.34 | djszapi | * slightest |
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| 10:55.51 | djszapi | I can even ping the host PC, but I cannot login over ssh. |
| 10:56.18 | SpeedEvil | what does it say when you ssh to the phone |
| 10:56.41 | djszapi | still the same |
| 10:56.52 | djszapi | ssh: connect to host 192.168.2.15 port 22: No route to host |
| 10:57.14 | BCMM | internet != network connection |
| 10:57.46 | SpeedEvil | Ok - now ping the phone from the host |
| 10:57.57 | SpeedEvil | You seem to have messed up routing somehow |
| 10:58.20 | SpeedEvil | Are you sure you're pinging the host from the phone, not pinging the phone from the phone |
| 10:58.29 | djszapi | pretty sure |
| 10:59.57 | djszapi | seems it works after a gadget reboot |
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| 11:00.06 | djszapi | something requires a device reboot then. |
| 11:00.14 | djszapi | some part of this procedure. |
| 11:01.35 | MohammadAG | did you follow the wiki? |
| 11:01.39 | MohammadAG | ~usbnetworking |
| 11:02.01 | MohammadAG | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking |
| 11:02.13 | djszapi | yes ofc |
| 11:02.24 | MohammadAG | ~usbnetworking is http://wiki.maemo.org/USB_networking |
| 11:02.24 | infobot | MohammadAG: okay |
| 11:04.11 | djszapi | scp addressbook.db root@192.168.2.15:/home/user/.osso-abook/db/addressbook.db -> pretty much did not work |
| 11:05.10 | djszapi | I do not see the contacts in my contact list of the gadget after all. |
| 11:06.32 | MohammadAG | but did it copy? |
| 11:06.41 | djszapi | sure |
| 11:07.32 | MohammadAG | killall osso-addressbook |
| 11:08.14 | djszapi | device reboot |
| 11:08.19 | djszapi | windows way ;) |
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| 11:09.01 | MohammadAG | must be R&D mode that doesn't make it reboot here |
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| 11:10.03 | djszapi | no contact after reboot either. |
| 11:10.16 | djszapi | no clue..... |
| 11:11.35 | djszapi | also, it seems it does not join automatically to the usb0 with ifup by default. |
| 11:12.17 | djszapi | mmh again ssh issue... |
| 11:12.33 | djszapi | I am not lucky today with it :) |
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| 11:17.57 | chem|st | djszapi: does the other way round work? |
| 11:18.12 | chem|st | djszapi: are you abel to ssh to your desktop from n900? |
| 11:18.42 | chem|st | as you said you can ping your desktop from n900 |
| 11:18.45 | djszapi | well the biggest problem is that now, your address book copy idea did not really work out |
| 11:19.15 | djszapi | I wonder why it is not enough as do I about the not successful exporting. |
| 11:19.28 | chem|st | so copying the two folders to your $n900-home did not work? even after a reboot? |
| 11:19.38 | djszapi | you mentioned _one_ file. |
| 11:19.56 | chem|st | I said I would copy two folders |
| 11:20.13 | chem|st | the db is only one file |
| 11:20.21 | chem|st | I thought you wnat to extract them |
| 11:20.51 | djszapi | well that is odd I cannot export it |
| 11:20.57 | djszapi | extract ? |
| 11:21.03 | djszapi | your mean care to ellaborate ? |
| 11:21.20 | chem|st | convert the .db to some .vcf |
| 11:21.33 | djszapi | not sure what you mean |
| 11:22.03 | djszapi | and why that would be better than a file by file copy. |
| 11:22.17 | djszapi | ssh: connect to host 192.168.2.15 port 22: No route to host |
| 11:22.17 | djszapi | lost connection |
| 11:22.21 | chem|st | the _one_ file I refered to is a .db and exported contacts are saved as .vcf the process I would call extracting |
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| 11:22.28 | djszapi | I need to set the usb0 interface up after each reboot |
| 11:22.34 | djszapi | I wonder why. |
| 11:22.42 | chem|st | djszapi: you usbnetworking does not work... yet |
| 11:22.50 | djszapi | odd |
| 11:23.32 | djszapi | I have no clue why |
| 11:23.36 | djszapi | route is added etc |
| 11:23.45 | djszapi | auto usb0 in the interfaces etc |
| 11:24.27 | djszapi | also, two folders copy did not really help |
| 11:24.41 | djszapi | my addressbook is still empty. |
| 11:26.05 | djszapi | easier to copy manually each contact seriously. |
| 11:26.41 | chem|st | what about using the cli as described in the wiki? |
| 11:27.05 | djszapi | your mean ? |
| 11:27.06 | chem|st | or use the backup tool (that saves contacts aswell)= |
| 11:27.31 | chem|st | djszapi: link I posted ^^ |
| 11:27.46 | MohammadAG | Venemo, didn't you have a library that could generate a yellow message? |
| 11:27.50 | MohammadAG | like the one for email |
| 11:27.54 | trx | how can i catch app minimize event (Qt), statechange event does nothing :/ |
| 11:28.38 | MohammadAG | djszapi, add ifup usb0 to /usr/sbin/pcsuite-enable.sh |
| 11:28.41 | MohammadAG | before exit 0 |
| 11:28.54 | djszapi | already happened. |
| 11:29.38 | BCMM | trx: what do you mean by minimize? as far as i can see, maemo's WM doesn't really do minimization |
| 11:29.42 | BCMM | do you mean loss of focus? |
| 11:29.46 | djszapi | no idea why I cannot export the addressbook... |
| 11:30.17 | trx | BCMM well, anything that can tell me that my app isnt in focus (so i can stop some timers) |
| 11:30.53 | BCMM | trx: i think you want to search for loss of focus, not minimising |
| 11:31.21 | BCMM | minimising is when, on a normal PC, you click the button that sends the window to the taskbar |
| 11:31.30 | trx | so it doesnt really minimize.. |
| 11:31.44 | trx | thanks |
| 11:31.49 | trx | ill look arround |
| 11:32.14 | BCMM | trx: http://lists.trolltech.com/qt-interest/2008-08/thread00486-0.html looks like one solution |
| 11:32.36 | djszapi | MohammadAG: I would expected that I add those lines I can connect by default after a reboot.. |
| 11:32.45 | trx | BCMM thank you |
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| 11:33.08 | djszapi | can I export the address book from the command line ? |
| 11:33.19 | MohammadAG | djszapi, you have to click PC Suite |
| 11:33.24 | BCMM | trx: also, maybe http://doc.trolltech.com/4.5/qwidget.html#focus-prop |
| 11:33.38 | BCMM | (i mean, i don't know what happens if you try that with an actual window) |
| 11:33.40 | djszapi | MohammadAG: your mean ? |
| 11:34.19 | trx | i'll try it out and see :) |
| 11:34.26 | djszapi | this is funny I cannot export the addressbook and I do not get any proper error message either. |
| 11:34.57 | chem|st | djszapi: osso-addressbook-backup -e /path/file |
| 11:35.34 | MohammadAG | djszapi, you didn't read the wiki I guess |
| 11:35.48 | chem|st | djszapi: MohammadAG means that you need to tap _PC-Suite_ when then N900 is asking |
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| 11:36.05 | djszapi | are you seriously think I could use earlier without tapping ? :) |
| 11:36.16 | djszapi | that is so implicite and does not work without that :) |
| 11:36.21 | Venemo | MohammadAG, I do, yes |
| 11:36.34 | Venemo | MohammadAG, it's in q-extras |
| 11:37.05 | Venemo | MohammadAG, the api would need some refining though, but it should work. |
| 11:37.26 | MohammadAG | Venemo, already found a forum nokia article :) |
| 11:37.45 | Venemo | MohammadAG, well, my lib makes it easier than that article... |
| 11:37.59 | Venemo | and it also does more. |
| 11:38.31 | djszapi | chem|st: osso-addressbook-backup -e /home/user/.osso-abook/db/addressbook.db |
| 11:38.31 | djszapi | open_system_abook: Cannot open book |
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| 11:41.08 | djszapi | chem|st: it is a PITA. |
| 11:41.14 | chem|st | ehrm path to backupfile... |
| 11:41.17 | djszapi | would be much better to fix the export... |
| 11:41.35 | djszapi | ok, so please be more precise |
| 11:41.39 | djszapi | what to give it to then ? |
| 11:42.06 | djszapi | Nokia-N900:~# ls /home/user/.osso-backup/ |
| 11:42.06 | djszapi | Nokia-N900:~# |
| 11:42.09 | chem|st | ok doesn't work here either wierd |
| 11:42.41 | djszapi | please send me an email if you got it work if I can ask, I do not have more time for it now |
| 11:42.48 | djszapi | or ping on freenode :) |
| 11:42.54 | djszapi | kinda basic functionality. |
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| 11:45.23 | chem|st | and osso-backup does not work as well? |
| 11:46.21 | chem|st | ~slap chem|st |
| 11:46.21 | infobot | ACTION slaps chem|st, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 11:46.46 | chem|st | djszapi: you are running the osso-adressbook-backup as root or user? |
| 11:46.50 | djszapi | meanwhile it works for my colleague, just asked... |
| 11:47.03 | djszapi | yes ofc |
| 11:47.22 | Khertan | is happy ... finnally successfully install maemo sdk |
| 11:47.27 | Khertan | ouch ... what a loose of time |
| 11:47.32 | chem|st | as user it just works for me (there is no abook for root ;) |
| 11:47.57 | djszapi | does not really work here. |
| 11:48.02 | djszapi | the command runs, but no new contact. |
| 11:48.08 | djszapi | just an empty one |
| 11:48.18 | chem|st | then the abook is empty |
| 11:48.24 | djszapi | obviously not |
| 11:48.38 | chem|st | look into the .db |
| 11:48.42 | djszapi | obviously not |
| 11:48.48 | chem|st | some parts are human readable |
| 11:48.57 | djszapi | it is really the same... |
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| 11:49.21 | chem|st | djszapi: new contact? |
| 11:49.55 | djszapi | nothing, but I am really pissed off by it |
| 11:49.56 | djszapi | sorry |
| 11:50.03 | djszapi | thank you for your help anyway |
| 11:50.05 | djszapi | I stop it now |
| 11:50.06 | djszapi | :( |
| 11:50.12 | chem|st | djszapi: $location where the actual abook is run as user: osso-addressbook-backup -e backupcontacts.vcf |
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| 11:50.59 | chem|st | djszapi: copy backupcontacts.vcf to n900 and use the import from file option from your hildon-abook application |
| 11:51.21 | chem|st | $location == $device |
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| 12:10.59 | Khertan | Someone notice some Qt segfault with Qt4.7.2 from CSSU too ? |
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| 12:17.00 | MohammadAG | achipa, so, I'll ask again, should I jump to QtM 1.1 or just send recompiled packages for libqtm, libqtm-11, and libqtm-12? |
| 12:17.57 | achipa | MohammadAG: where does the packaging come from ? |
| 12:18.23 | MohammadAG | achipa, repos, if I don't recompile against 4.7.2 then apps segfault |
| 12:18.43 | achipa | which repos ? which one has 1.1 as libqtm ? |
| 12:18.55 | MohammadAG | so I need to provide new QtM packages in the next update, I'm just not sure whether to push the same versions recompiled or push a new version |
| 12:19.13 | MohammadAG | umm, none, that's what I'm asking |
| 12:19.36 | MohammadAG | should I rename libqtm-11 to libqtm and send that in an update, or just push recompiled packages for all 3 versions? |
| 12:19.47 | MohammadAG | the latter won't break apps for sure |
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| 12:24.01 | dotblank | hello anyone up? |
| 12:24.11 | dotblank | I need someone to help me with a favor |
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| 12:29.43 | achipa | MohammadAG: not sure if renaming would work, some extra tweaking with path would be needed |
| 12:29.51 | achipa | MohammadAG: as that stuff is not in /usr/lib |
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| 12:30.30 | achipa | (so stuff compiled against 1.0 would fail in that case if you just upped) |
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| 12:31.01 | achipa | so I would generally recommend to keep the same versions |
| 12:37.36 | MohammadAG | achipa, I know, realized that with Qt 4.7.2 |
| 12:37.45 | MohammadAG | got it |
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| 13:12.39 | Khertan | MohammadAG: does there is any urgency to jump to Qt 4.7.2 in cssu ? |
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| 13:19.40 | Khertan | Does there is still maemo4 user's ? |
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| 14:42.29 | pupnik | is this what Obama does (blinking with the eyes) when he lies? |
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| 15:04.48 | Khertan | Does qt use gles on maemo ? |
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| 15:07.39 | MohammadAG | Khertan, read the rules file |
| 15:07.39 | MohammadAG | debian/rules |
| 15:07.39 | MohammadAG | you'll find the right configuration for it |
| 15:07.55 | Khertan | yep yep ... |
| 15:08.17 | Khertan | i find it ... but i mean did he use it for some sample operation like drawing qwidget |
| 15:08.20 | Khertan | by default |
| 15:08.45 | MohammadAG | nope |
| 15:09.04 | MohammadAG | it's used by QGLWidget afaik |
| 15:10.51 | Khertan | i ask because i didn't reproduce it with target x86 which didn't use gl :) |
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| 15:12.53 | MohammadAG | didn't reproduce what? |
| 15:13.00 | Khertan | QTBUGS-18720 |
| 15:13.02 | Khertan | :) |
| 15:13.09 | Khertan | yep i m still tracking it |
| 15:13.24 | Khertan | but installing maemo sdk take so long |
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| 15:21.25 | ZogG | Khertan Ð¸ÐµÑ ÑйÑÑе ÑÑ ÐµÑÑ Ð¸Ð³Ð¿, |
| 15:21.37 | ZogG | Khertan, what is that bug everyone talking about/ |
| 15:21.37 | ZogG | hi btw |
| 15:22.27 | Khertan | http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-18720. |
| 15:22.30 | Khertan | http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-18720 |
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| 15:25.03 | MohammadAG | <Khertan> yep i m still tracking it |
| 15:25.08 | MohammadAG | again, I feel it's qtextcontrol |
| 15:26.41 | Khertan | i was thinking of qtextcontrol or ... glyph painting :) |
| 15:27.41 | MohammadAG | well, I'd check what the define does if you couldn't reproduce it on x86 |
| 15:27.45 | MohammadAG | oh and one more thing |
| 15:27.50 | MohammadAG | x86 uses a different font |
| 15:27.59 | MohammadAG | (and a different font size) |
| 15:28.06 | MohammadAG | it uses my Ubuntu fonts here |
| 15:29.16 | Khertan | yep ... |
| 15:29.27 | Khertan | i'm compiling the armel one |
| 15:29.36 | Khertan | can it be used under scratchbox ? |
| 15:29.58 | Khertan | :%s/scratchbox/xephyr |
| 15:30.30 | MohammadAG | nope |
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| 15:34.10 | Khertan | :( |
| 15:34.42 | Khertan | ok ... i will retry to reproduce it under x86 |
| 15:34.45 | Khertan | :) |
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| 15:36.02 | ZogG | btw is digia owns Qt already? |
| 15:36.09 | MohammadAG | Nokia never sold Qt |
| 15:36.19 | MohammadAG | it's Qt licensing |
| 15:36.31 | MohammadAG | of course, the media likes to change titles in ways that result in BS being spread |
| 15:36.46 | ZogG | i just hoped |
| 15:37.09 | Khertan | yep ... nokia include so many crappy things in qt for their shitty qml |
| 15:38.07 | ZogG | Khertan дÑд |
| 15:38.07 | ZogG | lol |
| 15:38.07 | ZogG | people do like it you know |
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| 15:39.53 | Khertan | which ? user ? |
| 15:40.53 | Khertan | they will blame developpers for slow apps after |
| 15:42.59 | MohammadAG | ZogG, people like eye candy, they don't care if it's QML or not |
| 15:43.36 | ZogG | MohammadAG, come to my van i'll give you a candy |
| 15:43.46 | MohammadAG | 1) Kill desktop composition |
| 15:43.49 | MohammadAG | 2) Use QPropertyAnimation |
| 15:43.57 | MohammadAG | and any Qt app will look good |
| 15:44.04 | MohammadAG | ZogG, doesn't work on me :P |
| 15:44.28 | ZogG | tweego looks good without qml if i got it right |
| 15:44.30 | ZogG | or colombus |
| 15:44.46 | ZogG | though gpodder by thp with aml looks sweet |
| 15:46.00 | Khertan | ZogG: every qml app run slowly ... use too much memory ... |
| 15:46.11 | Khertan | except stupid example of course |
| 15:46.15 | ZogG | qnlreddit is fine i thik |
| 15:47.23 | Khertan | ZogG: don't know. Never try it |
| 15:47.30 | Khertan | but ouch the screenshot |
| 15:47.31 | Khertan | :) |
| 15:47.39 | Khertan | https://sites.google.com/site/qmlreddit/ <<< this is not that ? |
| 15:47.40 | Khertan | :) |
| 15:47.44 | ZogG | yeah he is not desinger |
| 15:47.53 | ZogG | designer |
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| 15:49.43 | Khertan | ZogG: yep ... this is why qml sucks |
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| 15:49.59 | Khertan | it s not for designer, not for developpers, not really for webmaster |
| 15:50.03 | Khertan | this is for noone :) |
| 15:50.19 | ZogG | you can always make one better |
| 15:50.28 | ZogG | though i love your app |
| 15:50.48 | ZogG | MohammadAG btw did you implent RDS in openplayer? |
| 15:51.00 | Khertan | of course ... can always make better ... just matter of time :) |
| 15:51.08 | MohammadAG | ZogG, no |
| 15:51.20 | ZogG | MohammadAG i just wonder what you need to send to dbus |
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| 15:51.25 | ZogG | and how i do it with see |
| 15:51.28 | ZogG | c* |
| 15:51.28 | Khertan | MohammadAG: make -j made a great diff ... from 2h to 20min :) |
| 15:51.38 | ZogG | i hate C for one reason |
| 15:51.49 | ZogG | it's hard to goole while it's only one letter |
| 15:51.58 | Khertan | :) |
| 15:52.14 | MohammadAG | Khertan, yep :D |
| 15:52.38 | ZogG | and mostly i get C# or .net or c++ |
| 15:52.54 | ZogG | xmms2> Tao - Ultraflow ["Seven" 2011] |
| 15:53.01 | ZogG | 8bit music FTW |
| 15:53.11 | Khertan | ZogG: difficult for looking a c developper jobs in our french nationnal jobs agency, when specifying language for a dev ... it s require a minimum of 3 chars :) |
| 15:53.28 | ZogG | Khertan lol |
| 15:53.37 | ZogG | but i think C is the best |
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| 15:53.47 | Khertan | depends on use case |
| 15:53.47 | ZogG | as you know it well you can manage other langs |
| 15:53.54 | Khertan | false |
| 15:53.56 | ZogG | especially C++ and C# |
| 15:54.05 | Khertan | c++ != c |
| 15:54.19 | Khertan | one is object not the other |
| 15:54.53 | Khertan | it s a total different way of coding |
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| 15:55.02 | ZogG | yes it is |
| 15:55.10 | ZogG | but if you handle C you can make it with C++ |
| 15:55.18 | ZogG | in my opinion |
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| 15:56.00 | ZogG | http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/04/motorcycles-made-from-watch-parts.html |
| 15:56.05 | ZogG | thats cool |
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| 15:57.27 | Khertan | is listening Samael - Slavocracy |
| 15:57.42 | MohammadAG | It took me over two weeks to get adjusted to C |
| 15:57.47 | MohammadAG | after learning C++ |
| 15:57.50 | MohammadAG | it's very different |
| 15:58.04 | ZogG | http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2011/04/15/new-certification-level-launched-%E2%80%93-nokia-certified-qt-specialist/ |
| 15:59.01 | Khertan | you know i hate the most with python ... all python jobs are related to website ... so few App developpment jobs in python |
| 15:59.20 | Khertan | s/you know/you know what i |
| 15:59.32 | Khertan | and less in python qt :) |
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| 16:06.44 | pupnik | n900 flies to the floor for the 100th time |
| 16:06.47 | pupnik | tripping over cable |
| 16:10.18 | Appiah | gj |
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| 16:28.18 | Jartza | ouch, my n900 keyboards space button cracked into 2 pieces :( |
| 16:28.41 | Jartza | both sides work, but pressing from the middle doesn't |
| 16:30.13 | MohammadAG | the space bar is two buttons anyway |
| 16:30.24 | MohammadAG | not one button, that's why the middle doesn't work |
| 16:30.31 | MohammadAG | just get a new keymat, changing it is easy |
| 16:32.55 | Khertan | MohammadAG: did you know where we can found some cheap hw parts of n900 |
| 16:33.18 | Khertan | i broken zoom minus button (always pressed) |
| 16:33.26 | GeneralAntilles | Damnit |
| 16:33.28 | GeneralAntilles | Portal 2 today. |
| 16:33.29 | GeneralAntilles | dies. |
| 16:33.33 | MohammadAG | cheap, nope, but I do know of klc.fi |
| 16:33.41 | MohammadAG | GeneralAntilles, still not out here :/ |
| 16:33.54 | GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, yes, not living in the US is a terrible thing. :P |
| 16:34.03 | MohammadAG | haha |
| 16:34.13 | MohammadAG | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZMSAzZ76EU <-- epic "ad" for it, sort of |
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| 16:38.24 | Jartza | MohammadAG: yeah, I just have to find one. Every seller says "out of stock" |
| 16:38.55 | MohammadAG | Jartza, steam? :P |
| 16:39.08 | Jartza | ? |
| 16:39.27 | MohammadAG | purchase the downloadable version off Steam |
| 16:39.47 | Jartza | downloadable keymat? :) |
| 16:40.23 | Jartza | that's hightech :) |
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| 16:43.18 | MohammadAG | Jartza, oh, thought you were talking about Portal 2 xD |
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| 16:43.24 | Jartza | heh :D |
| 16:43.28 | Jartza | I need a scandinavian keymat |
| 16:43.44 | Jartza | klc is also out of stock |
| 16:45.34 | MohammadAG | Jartza, I'd google 265854 N900 |
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| 16:47.43 | Jartza | MohammadAG: I did. Without success. |
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| 17:45.11 | ZogG_w | !ping |
| 17:45.42 | ZogG_w | i can't see anyones msgs or it's just that quite here? |
| 17:46.32 | MohammadAG | your net disconnected |
| 17:47.11 | ZogG_w | oh i see u |
| 17:47.15 | ZogG_w | i'm from webchat |
| 17:47.20 | ZogG_w | as of proxy at work |
| 17:47.23 | ZogG_w | damn proxy |
| 17:47.24 | ZogG_w | hate it |
| 17:48.18 | MohammadAG | I'm talking over local LAN, you should be afraid |
| 17:49.10 | ZogG_w | lol |
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| 17:49.34 | ZogG_w | i have gun you know |
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| 17:52.31 | totalizator | hi, my n800 got into a reboot loop, but only when I choose to boot from SD card, flash boot works fine, any ideas why and how can I fix it? |
| 17:53.50 | MohammadAG | ZogG_w, which model? |
| 17:54.53 | ZogG_w | MohammadAG: CZ |
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| 18:04.46 | MohammadAG | ZogG_w, I have a portable tank, beat that |
| 18:05.01 | MohammadAG | it fits in a pocket, just add water |
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| 18:21.11 | mikki-kun | MohammadAG: you have a portable fission battery cell? |
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| 18:25.30 | chx | mikki-kun: we were reading articles about water fuel cells for years. |
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| 18:29.59 | DocScrutinizer | Khertan: mouser might help. Hard to find a exactly matching switch. I recommend Nokia repair |
| 18:31.12 | DocScrutinizer | Jartza: scandinavian one might be hard to find. Maybe somebody has a spare one, who got bored of the non-US version |
| 18:32.29 | DocScrutinizer | I got some sources of US and German keymats |
| 18:32.30 | Jartza | maybe |
| 18:32.49 | Jartza | I have another n900, but it's with US keymat |
| 18:33.05 | Jartza | and I need my ä and ö :) |
| 18:33.33 | DocScrutinizer | errr ä and ö sound much like german keymat |
| 18:34.19 | Jartza | germans have messed up y and z |
| 18:34.21 | Jartza | :) |
| 18:36.05 | Jartza | I hate qwertz and azerty -keyboars :) |
| 18:36.15 | Jartza | +d |
| 18:36.36 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.saremi-mobilfunk.de/product_info.php/info/p4370_Original-Nokia-N900-Keypad-QWERTZ.html is available anyway |
| 18:37.25 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.saremi-mobilfunk.de/product_info.php/info/p4575_Original-Nokia-N900-Keypad-QWERTY--english-.html is low on stock |
| 18:37.35 | Jartza | hmmh |
| 18:37.54 | Jartza | maybe this qwertz is ok, I think the actual keys can be remapped? |
| 18:40.18 | DocScrutinizer | sure |
| 18:40.54 | DocScrutinizer | there's no hw defined way the CPU knows about the printing on the keypad |
| 18:41.10 | Jartza | yep |
| 18:41.21 | DocScrutinizer | whatever you define in settings will get used |
| 18:42.17 | DocScrutinizer | (there's an initial config from CAL partition, that defines the keymapping on first boot) |
| 18:43.18 | Jartza | gnnh. keymat 19.89 eur, postal 14.90 eur :P |
| 18:43.31 | DocScrutinizer | this one is extremely nice a part (includes flat plastic connector) |
| 18:43.45 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.saremi-mobilfunk.de/product_info.php/info/p4366_Original-Nokia-N900-Hinge-Slide.html |
| 18:45.01 | DocScrutinizer | Jartza: depends on destination of shipment I guess. I don't think I paid that much for shipping |
| 18:45.23 | Jartza | my destination is finland |
| 18:45.31 | DocScrutinizer | sure |
| 18:45.40 | DocScrutinizer | thought as much |
| 18:46.10 | Jartza | maybe I'll ask my good friends at nokia first :) |
| 18:46.20 | DocScrutinizer | good plan |
| 18:46.20 | Jartza | if they have some broken n900's there :) |
| 18:46.30 | MohammadAG | <mikki-kun> MohammadAG: you have a portable fission battery cell? |
| 18:46.37 | MohammadAG | it said just add water :< |
| 18:47.13 | DocScrutinizer | .oO(??!) |
| 18:48.51 | MohammadAG | nothing :P |
| 18:49.26 | DocScrutinizer | ask in Fucku, they know about adding water |
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| 18:50.29 | DocScrutinizer | Jartza: btw I hate qwertz too, at least on N900. For the missing up/down direct keys |
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| 18:50.53 | Jartza | DocScrutinizer: not much difference to scandinavian qwerty |
| 18:51.18 | Jartza | in scandinavian keyboard y and z are in correct place and ü = å |
| 18:51.21 | Jartza | :) |
| 18:51.24 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, but the reason I got me the US keypad |
| 18:51.44 | Jartza | w00t |
| 18:51.51 | Jartza | my space n900 HAS scandinavian keyboard |
| 18:52.00 | Jartza | I did remember incorrectly |
| 18:52.00 | DocScrutinizer | :-P |
| 18:52.10 | Jartza | s/space/spare/ |
| 18:52.14 | DocScrutinizer | spare* |
| 18:52.38 | DocScrutinizer | only Freerunner been in space so far, no N900 afaik |
| 18:52.38 | Jartza | the "spare" is used for meego-testing :) |
| 18:53.09 | Jartza | it has broken earpiece and it doesn't detect keyboard slider open/close (thinks it's open all the time) |
| 18:54.09 | mtnbkr | DocScrutinizer: got my N900 back from repair (again) they definitely broke the microsd card reader the first time out when they were fixing the USB/charger port. Now I have a brand new main board and even spent the extra $25 to get new glass - all works fine now :) |
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| 18:54.21 | DocScrutinizer | http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1430&p=14569#p14569 <-FR in space |
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| 18:55.22 | DocScrutinizer | Jartza: I (wildly) guess your earpiece fell off and attached to the reed contact magnetically :-P |
| 18:56.17 | DocScrutinizer | Khertan: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=P10850SCT-ND no fogging clue if it would match for volume switch |
| 18:58.55 | DocScrutinizer | mtnbkr: hm, uSD holder sits on daughter board attached to main PCB via that incredible FPC ribbon |
| 18:58.57 | SpeedEvil | Has anyone had experience of what they do on repairing the USB ? |
| 18:59.11 | SpeedEvil | If the pads are destroyed, do they attempt repair, or swap mobo? |
| 18:59.19 | DocScrutinizer | swap I guss |
| 18:59.22 | DocScrutinizer | guess* |
| 19:01.14 | DocScrutinizer | you could tell by changed MAC of wifi, and changed mobo ser# |
| 19:01.40 | SpeedEvil | I suppose they could clone the IMEI |
| 19:01.50 | DocScrutinizer | they could, but won't |
| 19:01.54 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 19:02.01 | mtnbkr | DocScrutinizer: yeah, they called me and said the tech could not get it to read anything, and I said, yeah, I know, that is why I sent it back :) But she was apologizing since she said they will have to replace the main board and I would lose ALL of my data, and have a new MAC & seria and EIMI # etc. |
| 19:02.35 | mtnbkr | which was fine since of course I had a full backup to restore |
| 19:02.36 | SpeedEvil | wishes he could get broken n900 boards. |
| 19:03.13 | DocScrutinizer | you won't |
| 19:03.16 | SpeedEvil | I know. |
| 19:03.24 | DocScrutinizer | at least not from Nokia repair |
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| 19:05.40 | SpeedEvil | I imagine that they're sent back to nokia for credit, so the leak rate will be very small |
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| 19:10.52 | DocScrutinizer | usually mobo swaps are done in central repair facility I guess. Old defective mobos get destroyed there - at least they should |
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| 19:18.52 | kerio | i want a n900 with 512mb of ram |
| 19:19.09 | SpeedEvil | As I understand it, it's possible, though fiddly |
| 19:19.21 | kerio | would the kernel handle it nicely? |
| 19:19.25 | SpeedEvil | You can fit a 512M over the POP |
| 19:19.30 | SpeedEvil | I imagine so |
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| 19:23.14 | ShadowJK | fiddly is somewhat of an understatement |
| 19:23.51 | SpeedEvil | indeed |
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| 19:40.36 | RST38h | Steve Jobs invents Maemo task switcher: http://www-bgr-com.vimg.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/DSC_3157110419134214.jpeg |
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| 19:45.27 | pupnik | finnish aeronautical engineer designs coolest airplane ever http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-kilo-person-plane.html |
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| 19:55.41 | mikki-kun | pupnik: wow, awesome! :D |
| 19:57.13 | pupnik | mikki-kun: takes some courage to fly |
| 19:57.29 | mikki-kun | nah, just insanity :D |
| 19:57.31 | mikki-kun | ^^ |
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| 20:35.20 | SpeedEvil | http://www.dealextreme.com/p/7-0-tft-lcd-android-2-2-via-8650-cpu-wifi-umpc-netbook-pink-349-79mhz-2gb-3-usb-sd-lan-70759 - slightly more expensive than a BT keyboard. |
| 20:36.16 | ThreeM | and slightly more performance ;) |
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| 20:51.21 | internetishard | are passwords for the accounts like skype stored in cleartext somewhere? If so, then where can I retreive them? |
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| 21:13.56 | internetishard | Are passwords for accounts like skype easy to retreive? |
| 21:14.15 | internetishard | I remember wep keys were stored in cleartext |
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| 21:30.20 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: hey buddy |
| 21:31.47 | internetishard | yo |
| 21:31.52 | internetishard | :> |
| 21:35.07 | MohammadAG | sup ZogG |
| 21:35.12 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, |
| 21:35.26 | ZogG_laptop | Ð½Ñ |
| 21:35.31 | ZogG_laptop | yo |
| 21:35.50 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: is there any docs provided how to work with maemo cal? |
| 21:35.59 | ZogG_laptop | cal nad contacs? |
| 21:36.25 | ZogG_laptop | and* |
| 21:36.36 | ZogG_laptop | contacts* |
| 21:37.01 | MohammadAG | cal? |
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| 21:38.37 | ZogG_laptop_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.39 | ZogG_laptop_ | lol |
| 21:38.49 | ZogG_laptop_ | so MohammadAG ? |
| 21:40.03 | ZogG_laptop_ | am i out again? |
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| 21:40.41 | ds3 | ARRRRRGGGGG BAD UPDATES BAD |
| 21:44.13 | Spydemon | have someone installed the Maemo SDK with scratchbox on Arch Linux ? |
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| 21:47.52 | DocScrutinizer | internetishard: I published a tmo thread about howto recover wlan passwords |
| 21:48.08 | internetishard | yeah, I was trying to recover a skype password |
| 21:48.18 | DocScrutinizer | nfc about skype |
| 21:48.50 | internetishard | nfc? |
| 21:48.53 | DocScrutinizer | never touched it since I left betatester crew due to skype R&D leads are gasheads |
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| 21:49.23 | internetishard | well, this isn't skype, I'm talking about the Accounts thing in maemo |
| 21:49.27 | internetishard | that does SIP, skype, etc |
| 21:49.31 | internetishard | those passwords^ |
| 21:49.58 | DocScrutinizer | there my tmo post |
| 21:50.00 | MohammadAG | I thought all rtcom passwords are stored as plaintex |
| 21:50.10 | MohammadAG | t |
| 21:50.10 | MohammadAG | can't remember the bug report on it |
| 21:50.10 | DocScrutinizer | no idea about skype and aother contacts |
| 21:50.33 | DocScrutinizer | bug report?!! MUHAHAHA |
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| 21:51.23 | internetishard | Yeah, I figured all those (apparently "rtcom") passwords were stored as cleartext |
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| 21:51.50 | DocScrutinizer | in ~/.config/rt-com/iqehxnökjxdbebz |
| 21:51.50 | ZogG_laptop_ | MohammadAG: |
| 21:51.56 | DocScrutinizer | something like that |
| 21:52.03 | ZogG_laptop_ | DocScrutinizer: hey |
| 21:52.06 | ZogG_laptop_ | i got camera |
| 21:52.17 | ZogG_laptop_ | moro,w would send u a pic |
| 21:52.28 | DocScrutinizer | yw |
| 21:52.34 | ZogG_laptop_ | yw? |
| 21:52.39 | DocScrutinizer | ~yw |
| 21:52.39 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, yw is you're welcome |
| 21:52.43 | ZogG_laptop_ | tomorow |
| 21:52.55 | ZogG_laptop_ | tomorrow |
| 21:53.03 | ZogG_laptop_ | it's double m or r |
| 21:53.04 | DocScrutinizer | got it |
| 21:53.06 | ZogG_laptop_ | tommorow |
| 21:53.14 | ZogG_laptop_ | i just forget things like that lol |
| 21:53.45 | ZogG_laptop_ | MohammadAG: is there any api to work with contacts and calendar? |
| 21:53.51 | ZogG_laptop_ | i found interesting thing |
| 21:54.08 | DocScrutinizer | ZogG_laptop_: ->wiki |
| 21:54.13 | internetishard | don't see a .config/rt-com |
| 21:54.26 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop_, osso-abook |
| 21:54.31 | MohammadAG | there's also Qt Mobility |
| 21:54.32 | MohammadAG | coughs |
| 21:54.38 | ZogG_laptop_ | what is better |
| 21:54.45 | DocScrutinizer | internetishard: grep <knowpassword> ~ |
| 21:54.45 | ZogG_laptop_ | and what is better for C ? |
| 21:54.58 | ZogG_laptop_ | damn that movie was not bad |
| 21:55.15 | ZogG_laptop_ | cameron is not bad director though avatar sucked |
| 21:55.29 | MohammadAG | the native API is always better |
| 21:55.51 | ZogG_laptop_ | MohammadAG: does it has C API ? |
| 21:55.58 | MohammadAG | it is C |
| 21:56.06 | MohammadAG | native language on maemo is C |
| 21:56.11 | internetishard | knowpassword? |
| 21:56.31 | ZogG_laptop_ | MohammadAG: good |
| 21:56.45 | ZogG_laptop_ | MohammadAG: but calendar is still closed right? |
| 21:57.03 | DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Using_Generic_Platform_Components/Using_Address_Book_API |
| 21:59.12 | ZogG_laptop_ | http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/calendar-backend/ |
| 21:59.16 | ZogG_laptop_ | found it |
| 21:59.18 | MohammadAG | having an API != the component has to be open |
| 21:59.22 | internetishard | sooo... how do I find this password? |
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| 22:01.38 | DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Data_Management |
| 22:01.50 | DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Data_Management#Contacts_.28Addressbook.29 |
| 22:01.54 | internetishard | Is that for me? |
| 22:02.02 | internetishard | To find the password for rt-com stuff? |
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| 22:02.33 | DocScrutinizer | that's for you: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/RTCOM |
| 22:02.51 | DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/RTCOM#osso-accounts |
| 22:03.09 | ZogG_laptop_ | DocScrutinizer: i more interested in calendar for now |
| 22:03.29 | DocScrutinizer | ooops |
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| 22:03.48 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, got out of rails on second & 3rd |
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| 22:03.59 | ZogG_laptop_ | Kilroo1: is cloning itself |
| 22:04.28 | DocScrutinizer | eh? |
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| 22:07.36 | BCMM | anyone else find their n900 shutting down when it is supposed to reboot? |
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| 22:10.25 | internetishard | How long does it take you guys to open up an sms convo with a lot of history? |
| 22:10.38 | internetishard | it takes me like 5s, longer than to reply to someone |
| 22:10.41 | DocScrutinizer | ZogG_laptop_: found this in my bookmarks: http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/libosso-abook/OssoABookAggregator.html#osso-abook-aggregator-find-contacts-for-phone-number |
| 22:11.30 | ZogG_laptop_ | DocScrutinizer: i wanna start with calendar |
| 22:11.36 | ZogG_laptop_ | wanna try something out |
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| 22:11.53 | DocScrutinizer | damndamndamndamn, /me takes outtime |
| 22:12.10 | ZogG_laptop_ | DocScrutinizer: but thanks anyway |
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| 22:17.14 | troulouliou | hi quick help please, what is the line to add to source.list to enable maemo devel and testing on scratchnox |
| 22:17.44 | DocScrutinizer | internetishard: ~user/.rtcom-accounts/accounts.cfg |
| 22:20.10 | DocScrutinizer | internetishard: I bet skype is different |
| 22:20.44 | internetishard | skype is in there, but no passwords are |
| 22:20.49 | internetishard | for anything, I think |
| 22:22.30 | ZogG_laptop_ | internetishard: what are u trying to do? |
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| 22:49.53 | DocScrutinizer | internetishard: SIP passwords are in there |
| 22:50.23 | DocScrutinizer | that's how I found it (well, I knew what to search for and where :-] ) |
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