IRC log for #maemo on 20101214

00:02.02sivangI'll ask Stskeeps tomorrow
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00:03.50DocScrutinizerfsckng evil addon
00:04.38sivangDocScrutinizer: someone says FEAture in #meego
00:04.41sivanganyway
00:05.02BCMMwow, the USB nicely goes back to normal afterwards and everything
00:05.03sivangnow that git almost done building with opensll
00:05.08BCMM(with no reboot)
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00:05.46sivangBCMM: nice
00:05.51sivangI oughtta try it sometime
00:06.06BCMMyou need to get a cable, but they are cheap
00:07.02DocScrutinizerwhatever, 9700 is suboptimal. Why set the level with some kinky CAL tweaking or whatever, when we could tell NOLO to not boot up at all, by simply holding 'c'
00:07.17DocScrutinizer'c' lime 'charge PLEAE!'
00:07.25DocScrutinizererr
00:07.33DocScrutinizer'c' like 'charge PLEASE!'
00:08.10BCMMi got this one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120617704386
00:08.20BCMMthe photos is misleading; it's actually two of them
00:08.27blue_ledfallus enlargement addon for f..ing everybody again. can anybody answer a serious question here? eventually ?
00:08.47BCMMthe cable is about an inch long, this is easilly small enough to pocket on hte off-chance of having to use it
00:11.04DocScrutinizer--force ?
00:11.37DocScrutinizerblue_led: sorry, no idea
00:12.29DocScrutinizermodprobe --force foousbeth
00:13.16DocScrutinizerblue_led: I'm not even sure I got the question
00:13.55sivangDocScrutinizer: Why not adding those comments there?
00:14.08sivangDocScrutinizer: what's CAL?
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00:15.01blue_ledi use modules.symbvers from power-kernel-headers but usbnet is also external . it can be rmmod and insmod and i don't think the it can be inserted at same adress
00:15.13blue_ledforce no go
00:15.53BCMMis the hostmode forum thread an appropriate place to post an ebay link which could be helpful to UK people looking for a hostmode adaptor?
00:15.55DocScrutinizererr, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=20465
00:16.40DocScrutinizerBCMM: yes
00:18.06BCMMah - fcam doesn't work
00:19.18sivangDocScrutinizer: thanks, I see
00:19.59sivangDocScrutinizer: so press 'c'and NOLO just enters charge mode and enver boots the kernel?
00:20.20DocScrutinizerthat'd be nice, no?
00:23.20sivangDocScrutinizer: yes, but yoiu didn't tell me it back then :) in any event it does not mean more work to support that AFAICT, I will add this to the FEA if you don't
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00:23.56sivanghow do I push with git?
00:24.50sivanggit config user.email
00:24.52sivangoops
00:25.23DocScrutinizersivang: you can add whatever you like - with proper credit :-D
00:25.41sivangDocScrutinizer: did not I include the credit already?
00:25.45sivangwas sure he did
00:26.02sivangDocScrutinizer: I reckon you are not particularly interested in adding the feedback there yourself? :)
00:26.39sivangDocScrutinizer: I think it is best if you do, one day this will be discussed and I will have no clue at answering other than that you told me which I can recite
00:26.43sivang:)
00:26.56DocScrutinizerI got bashed on #meego why I would need any account. Now they can suck my ...
00:27.04javispedro... shiny metal ass.
00:27.11sivangDocScrutinizer: bashed?
00:27.18sivangjavispedro: what is he talking about?
00:27.59javispedrodunno
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00:28.29sivangDocScrutinizer: okay, i'll add with proper credit :)
00:47.20sivangnight all
00:47.29sivangthanks crashanddie_ , you save my life today
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00:51.34blue_ledbye
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01:12.26comawhitehow I find the version of a package?
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02:26.11Termanagood morning
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03:12.20comawhitefinally got QtCreator to work with Scratchbox :)\
03:12.31comawhitebut no code completion :(
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03:23.32ebzzryIs there a way to set the wallpaper from the command line?
03:23.40SpeedEvilyes
03:23.48SpeedEvilgconf2 -somethin
03:23.57ebzzryWhat is that something?
03:24.53SpeedEvilgconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/views/3/bg-image -t string /home/user/yr/meteogram.png
03:24.55SpeedEvilFor example
03:25.12ebzzryAh, crap. How could I forget that. Thanks.
03:25.25SpeedEvilThe power of grep!
03:25.36ebzzryHah!
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03:32.57ebzzryHow do I determine the current amount of views?
03:33.23SpeedEvil?
03:33.31SpeedEviloh
03:33.35SpeedEvilDunno
03:33.44SpeedEvilthere is one for each desktop
03:33.51SpeedEvilI don't know how you determine the current
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03:38.35rtyleroooof, new n900 after my microUSB port broke off a couple weeks ago
03:40.19SpeedEvilwarramtu
03:40.21SpeedEvil?
03:40.47rtyleryeah, warrantied, still aggrevating
03:40.56rtylerwe'll see how much my backup before sending it off restores
03:40.58SpeedEvilyup
03:41.19rtylerreading up on what's-his-name's analysis of the poor design of the connector is infuriating
03:41.45SpeedEvilIn some ways it's missing the point
03:42.04SpeedEvilThe problem is largely the other end of the connector
03:42.13SpeedEvilWith that huge massive lever
03:42.26rtylerwhat do you mean?
03:42.33SpeedEvilThe plug
03:44.03rtylerlet's pretend I've had a horrible monday, and am having trouble thinking clearly, are you referring to the actual plug on the cable?
03:44.04SpeedEvil'
03:44.25SpeedEvilyes compare the size of the metal bit, and the size of the plastic bit
03:45.01SpeedEvila 1Kg force up on the end of the strain relief is a 5Kg or so force up on the end of the metal bit - and hence on the end of the connector
03:45.40SpeedEvilThe argument that it should be through hole is also problematic from a construction point-of-view.
03:47.09ebzzryWhat is the closest equivalent of cron on Maemo 5?
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03:49.53SpeedEvilalarmd clockd
03:49.57SpeedEvilsomething like that
03:50.05SpeedEvilin extras I think
03:50.10SpeedEvilsearch on alarm and clock
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03:53.51rtylerI wonder if maemo will run on this OLPC I got today
03:53.59rtylerI'm sure MeeGo won't run for crap on it
03:54.09SpeedEvilNo
03:54.28SpeedEvilmaemo is only n800/n810/n900/n770
03:54.46SpeedEvilIt has closed-source nokia awesome binaries are required components
03:55.26rtylerI am disappoint
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03:56.31ebzzry(these days, it's difficult to determine whether one is speaking lolspeak by intention or not)
03:57.22rtylerhah, definitely intentional
03:58.04luke-jrrtyler: Gentoo ftw
03:58.16ebzzry=)
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03:59.10rtylerdies
03:59.30luke-jrinherits rtyler's OLPC
03:59.39luke-jrwin
04:00.03rtylerpreventing gentoo from being installed on this machine has given me new purpose and reason to keep on living ;)
04:00.52luke-jrfail
04:01.35luke-jrrtyler: cmon, if my N810 and N900 can handle Gentoo, so can your OLPC
04:01.49rtylerI'm pretty sure both those devices are of better hardware :P
04:02.16luke-jro rly?
04:02.28rtylerthis thing is garbage :p
04:02.36rtyler430Mhz AMD Geode processor with 256MB RAM
04:02.49rtylerif Nokia hadn't of stinged on the RAM for the n900, it'd destroy the olpc
04:03.12luke-jrN810 is 400 MHz w/ 128 MB RAM
04:03.20rtylerah, okay then
04:03.23rtylercouldn't remember
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04:08.57TermanaBesides that, an x86 running at 430mhz (or even clocked at 400mhz) is generally going to be faster than an ARM processor clocked at the same speed
04:09.56SpeedEvildepends on the bus speed.
04:10.07SpeedEvilThe memory bus can be faster for some workloads
04:10.41luke-jrTermana: wtf?
04:10.46luke-jrthat's totally backwards
04:10.53luke-jrx86 is slower than ARM generally
04:12.11Termanaluke-jr, are you kidding yourself? Just because the processor has less instructions to run through doesn't mean that it will be faster
04:13.11luke-jrx86 has less instructions to run through. the thing is they take longer to run
04:13.40rtylerFIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
04:13.42SpeedEvilDepends
04:14.29SpeedEvilSome ARMs may have weak integer or FPU
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04:16.06Jartzawell, the speed of the cpu depends of multiple things
04:16.28Jartzalike depth of the pipeline, clock speed etc.
04:16.41rtylertime to update my Maemo 5 install on the new device
04:16.42rtyleryay
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04:59.58TermanaRIDING THE SPLIT
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05:32.19comawhiteis there a way to make my app in scratchbox rotate?
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05:34.56DocScrutinizerI'd prefer a banana split
05:35.55Gh0stygives DocScrutinizer a super banana split: banana split with warm chocolate sauce on top!
05:35.58comawhiteblah, forcing it to portrait mode is very buggy
05:36.01comawhitein scratchbox
05:36.19Gh0sty(its pure evil for your weight if you care)
05:36.19DocScrutinizerwoaaaah! GREAT!
05:36.40Gh0styto top it all off you could also put that on top of a pancake
05:36.47Gh0stybut that is beyond pure evil :p
05:37.02DocScrutinizerand no, it's absolutely mandatory at *my* weight
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05:38.52DocScrutinizeroff to buy some breakfast
05:39.29Neccwould you buy some for me too?
05:39.36comawhiteme 2
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06:49.24comawhiteDocScrutinizer, why you sending me DCC?
06:49.36DocScrutinizerpretzel
06:49.53comawhiteDCC Xfer Bounce (DocScrutinizer): Timeout waiting for incoming connection [88.198.116.132:54869]
06:49.53DocScrutinizer[2010-12-14 06:39:36] <comawhite> me 2
06:50.15comawhite?
06:50.42comawhiteblah this is a pita
06:50.49DocScrutinizerOh sorry, should have asked what you like for breakfast
06:50.55comawhitetrying to find a good design to come up with for my application
06:51.12comawhiteDocScrutinizer, Sausage, scrambled eggs, tons of bacon
06:51.13comawhite:D
06:51.59comawhiteand tomorrow I get my phone
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06:57.33Termanacomawhite, that's dangerous
06:58.41comawhiteTermana, eh?
06:58.57Termanacomawhite, eating a phone for breakfast
06:59.03comawhite:D
06:59.13comawhite:S*
06:59.56TermanaYou said that today you would like for breakfast: sausage, scrambled eggs and tons of bacon and tomorrow you get your phone [for breakfast]
07:12.15comawhiteTermana, no, as it was two separate subjects
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07:18.57Termanacomawhite, I was making a joke
07:19.06TermanaYou know - funny ha ha
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07:21.12comawhiteTermana, ah
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07:27.39lardmanah, /me sees maemo-devel post about the possibility of pushing Qt Mobility 1.1 to Extras and is pleased
07:27.54comawhiteI'm trying to run QtCreator inside of scratchbox, I do <path to qtcreator> -display :0 so it will display on my desktop, but I lose the cursor, how can I get it back?
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07:28.35lardmanno idea, I run it outside
07:29.27comawhiteso do I but I have issues with headers not being found, so code completion breaks for me, and a mate said run it inside of scratchbox then do -display :0 but no mouse cursor gets shown making it useless, and he doesn't know how to fix it
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07:32.46lardmanis that a known bug with Xephyr?
07:32.54lardmansounds like that kind of thing
07:33.13comawhiteidk
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07:39.28lardmanAnyone tried Boxee?
07:39.50lardmanis thinking about finally building a media centre
07:43.38lardmanhas anyone seen any example code using the calendar-backend (CCalendar.h headers, etc.)
07:43.41lardman?
07:43.57lardmanhmm, I guess there's that desktop widget...
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07:47.45lardmanhttp://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/File:Qt_for_Maemo_Calendar_Example.zip fwiw
07:48.09comawhiteCCalendar.h? looks like an MFC header
07:48.10comawhitexD
07:48.30comawhitemmmm MFC on n900
07:48.33comawhitedrools
07:48.34leakypugwhat wud be the problem if my desktop icons are often disappearing..
07:48.46comawhitewud?
07:48.51lardmancomawhite: yeah that's what one finds on the interweb, must have the same name
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07:53.20lardmanhmm, the wonders of iCal files
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08:01.52lardmanhmm, versit would be good, solve all my problems
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08:07.53X-Fadelardman: Well qtm is not an easy story.
08:08.09comawhiteis it possible to grade from 32GB to a larger (idono if you can get larger than 32GB)
08:08.13X-Fadelardman: As we are not the only ones using it, ovi does too.
08:08.27Jay_BEE[23:27]<lardman>ah, /me sees maemo-devel post about the possibility of pushing Qt Mobility 1.1 to Extras and is pleased   <--- nice....
08:10.19lardmanX-Fade: I understand, just that having qtm 1.1 + versit would save my buggering about trying to manually parse iCal and vCard files
08:10.31lardmanso the sooner they are pushed the better :)
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08:11.04X-Fadelardman: Yeah, talking with the SDK team to see what the plans are.
08:11.09lardmancool :)
08:11.27X-Fadelardman: Don't want to end up with a mess where we have updated packages on both nokia-apps repo and Extras.
08:11.30lardmanthat's nice, just wiped an entire day's worth of work of my todo list :)
08:11.50X-FadeBut don't expect it to be there next week.
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08:11.58X-FadeThat is _not_ going to happen.
08:12.00lardmanX-Fade: no, don't worry :)
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08:12.24X-FadeI'm not against a -experimental version in -devel though.
08:12.37X-FadeAs long as that doesn't end up in Extras ;)
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08:13.13lardmanhmm, that could be troublesome as I was planning on finally pushing mBarcode to Extras
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08:14.28X-FadeYeah, well as long as we don't have word from Nokia that they don't want to update qtm, we can't allow that anyway.
08:15.36lardmanso basically I'll have to write my own parsers anyway, or statically link the relevant parts of versit, etc., into the app?
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08:16.00X-Fadelardman: It depends on if you are in a hurry.
08:16.22comawhiteI need to finish writing this IRC library so I can port it to the n900
08:16.25lardmannot especially, but I thought I should get round to it now I have some spare time
08:17.09X-Fadelardman: You could include the lib in your package for now. And remove it later.
08:17.45johnxyeah, mbarcode from -devel is really pretty. you'd get a vote from me if you put it on -testing (once the packaging stuff gets worked out)
08:17.59X-Fadelardman: Or extract only the code you need.
08:18.03lardmanjohnx: packaging stuff?
08:18.16lardmanX-Fade: yeah, ok, will have a look at that then
08:18.22johnxI mean whatever you were talking about about the vcard/ical parsing stuff
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08:18.29lardmanah sure
08:18.44X-Fadelardman: But let's see if we get an answer soon.
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08:19.51lardmanok sounds good
08:19.59chxcomawhite: http://libircclient.sourceforge.net/ and http://bitbucket.org/jpnurmi/libircclient-qt/wiki/Home  why another?
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08:20.20lardmanX-Fade: while you're here, I have a question about the bugtracker default email addresses and how to add my address so I receive all mBarcode bugs?
08:20.23comawhitechx, those lack the functionality I want, plus I already wrote my own
08:20.47comawhitesince I develop an irc client for KDE, going to attempt a port to N900 but it'd be Qt only
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08:21.32X-Fadelardman: Are you in bugzilla?
08:23.41lardmanyes
08:24.16DocScrutinizer~lart mintux
08:24.16infobotdecapitates mintux conan the destroyer style
08:24.47lardmanX-Fade: for example could the @mbarcode.garage.bugs email redirect to a list of people automatically?
08:24.58DocScrutinizermoin X-Fade
08:25.20johnxDocScrutinizer, context?
08:25.31DocScrutinizerjohnx: ??
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08:25.40X-Fadelardman: It works the other way around. You can 'watch' a certain email.
08:25.58johnxyou larted something (someone?) I didn't even know about :)
08:26.17X-Fadelardman: https://bugs.maemo.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
08:26.20lardmanX-Fade: I tried that yesterday but it just said it didn't recognise that one
08:26.22johnxI was wondering what the context was surrounding the larting
08:26.23DocScrutinizer[2010-12-14 08:54:43] <mintux> I have serious problem.su doesn't work for me anymore and say su: must be suid to work properly. I forgot my user password for ssh and I want to change it from root but I got that fck error
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08:26.32X-Fadelardman: 'Add users to my watch list'
08:26.43DocScrutinizerjohnx: NOW (S)HE IS GONE
08:26.48DocScrutinizeroops sorry
08:26.52DocScrutinizercapslock
08:27.00X-Fadelardman: There you add mbarcode@garage.bugs
08:28.00DocScrutinizerjohnx: I was about to toss over a "sudo gainroot" and realized the tab didn't nick-complete
08:28.05johnxDocScrutinizer, the caps have kind of a nice finality in this context. makes you seem very much the evil computer program
08:28.18lardmanX-Fade: thanks, must have been user error on my part last night
08:28.36crashanddie_sivang, so compiling git locally did the trick?
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08:32.20leakypughey guys.. is there any media player with equilizer facility?
08:33.29Jay_BEEi've seen one in tplayer
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09:05.31RobbieThe1stHello, all..
09:06.07lardmananyone know what the N900's max video res is?
09:06.14RobbieThe1stHas anyone here replaced their n900's LCD before? I just -somehow- cracked mine. Odd thing is, digitizer works fine still
09:06.22RobbieThe1st800x480, lardman
09:06.32lardmanvideo?
09:06.39lardmannot the screen
09:06.40RobbieThe1st(might be 800x488, but close)
09:06.46RobbieThe1styes, same for the video
09:06.52lardmanok cool, thanks
09:07.13johnxlardman, decoding? I'd guess that would depend heavily on the codec and encoding
09:07.25lardmanno not decoding, the raw frame
09:07.38RobbieThe1stI think he's talking about video -recording-, right?
09:07.43lardmani.e. what size frame comes from the camera in video mode
09:08.22johnxaaah
09:08.48RobbieThe1stWhy not record something, then play it back on a PC - you can get the frame size easily there
09:08.57RobbieThe1stOh, and the camera app is closed source, IIRC
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09:09.32lardmanRobbieThe1st: because I thought someone might know ;)
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09:10.01RobbieThe1stTrue, but usually it takes longer to ask than to simply do it... <_<
09:10.31lardmanwell I'm doing something else at the same time, but yeah
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09:13.48RobbieThe1stSo, um, anyone know anything about LCD replacement?
09:13.57RST38hNo.
09:14.04RST38hContact Nokia Care, etc
09:15.07RobbieThe1stEh, I was hoping someone knew something about the $50 OEM replacements on Ebay. Oh, well.
09:15.29RST38hThey are replacements. You will need to apply your hands to use them.
09:15.53RST38hGiven that you somehow broke the original display, chances of you successfully replacing it with a new one, by yourself, are low.,
09:16.10RobbieThe1stI meant in terms of "are they actually compatible", or "are they actually 800x480"
09:16.59RobbieThe1stTo be honest, I'm still not sure how it broke - The digitizer still works fine, and there's no visible marks on it. When the screen's on, however, there's a visible crack in it
09:17.49pupnikdo you have a dog?
09:18.06pupnikcheck for teech imprint on the bottom
09:18.19RST38hEhehe
09:18.21RobbieThe1stNope; it was fine last night. Today, I put it in my pocket, I took it out a couple hours later and it had the crack
09:18.28RST38hkeys?
09:18.46RST38hbtw, are you sure it is a crack and not a piece of your hair getting under the digitizer layer?
09:19.27RobbieThe1stPositive. I'll show you a picture - I'm pretty sure that a piece of hair doesn't produce red/green/blue and gray vertical lines in that area of the screen
09:19.41RST38htrue
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09:20.17sivangcrashanddie_: yes :)
09:20.19RST38hMost local shops will replace the screen for ~400 rubles + cost of the screen (~$100..$120).
09:20.22sivangmorning all
09:20.35RST38hThey are all approximately 11000km from you though
09:20.41RobbieThe1stheh.
09:20.49mecehehe
09:20.55sivangcrashanddie_: thank you so very much for spotting this, I should have googled the problem but I was sure it was local to my setup or something
09:20.56RobbieThe1stI'm pretty sure I can replace it myself, provided I get a quality replacement.
09:20.56RST38hcackles satanically
09:21.33johnxRobbieThe1st, done much work inside phones before?
09:22.12RobbieThe1stNot phones, per-se; I took apart my N770, my Iriver H320, a 17" LCD desktop screen...(all of which currently work)
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09:23.09RST38hRobbie: Any of them you put back together?
09:23.10johnxRST38h, I bet you 1 Internet he gets it put back together and working, but I want 2:1 odds
09:23.31RobbieThe1stAs I said, they all still work
09:23.55RST38hjohnx: "Will he swim? Will he sink? The beast will have his feast tonight!" (C)Humanwine
09:24.06RST38hOk
09:24.31RST38hThen there is an N900 servicing guide (apparently leaked from Nokia) which explains the disassembly and replacement process
09:24.47delphihttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66938&page=2
09:24.54delphiany ideas? (check the last post)
09:25.03RST38hIt does involve a few steps (like replacing screws with new ones) that you won't be able to repeat, but pretty sane otherwise
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09:25.53RobbieThe1sthttp://robbiethe1st.afraid.org/images/IMGP2668.JPG
09:26.08RST38hdelphi: Get the source code (it is in the repo), look at it, debug
09:26.16johnxdefinitely a hair
09:26.34johnxRobbieThe1st, I bet you ran into something walking
09:26.41RST38hjohnx: point-blank hair damage
09:26.45johnxmaybe a fence? corner of a desk?
09:26.59RST38hshit, looks painful
09:27.13RobbieThe1stCould be, or something else inside my fabric case(I have earphones, usb cable, and extra battery)
09:27.24johnxshot by an airsoft gun?
09:27.39RobbieThe1stThe really odd part is that the screen protector has -no- marks or scratches on it
09:27.39delphiRST38h yeah, i was affraid of that, im not a cpp coder myself (delphi/lazarus)
09:27.46RST38hRobbie: Give me your email
09:28.03RobbieThe1strobbiethe1st@gmail.com
09:28.06RST38hdelphi: The program itself is not going to be particularly difficult to understand for a delphi coder
09:28.33delphithe code isnt a problem
09:28.38delphicompiling is
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09:28.47delphianyways, ill try it anyways
09:29.00RST38hRobbie: sent.
09:29.05RobbieThe1stTY
09:29.27RST38hdelphi: May not need to compile, simply look at it and match it to your sdebug output
09:29.42RST38hFaheem was the original software author you say?
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09:29.53delphiyes
09:30.18crashanddie_sivang, no worries, glad I could help
09:30.22RobbieThe1stOh, and the other interesting thing - After this happened, I notice a (I guess 50hz) shimmering in the color. I'm guessing something's slightly unbalanced electrically now.
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09:31.31sivangcrashanddie_: why do ubuntu packages do such things? or is it in universe so all bets are off
09:32.22crashanddie_sivang, well, they probably did it because curl-gnutls is preferred to openssl or something
09:32.31crashanddie_sivang, or lighter, or simpler, or whatever
09:32.56crashanddie_but bad luck, the specific version of curl-gnutls that comes with Ubuntu has a bug that doesn't allow it to properly parse a TLS connection
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09:33.20crashanddie_so it's really a case of bad luck, rather than "Why would they do that?"
09:33.35libbenanyone knows anything about twitter on the n900?
09:33.52lardmanargh wrong window, commited my wip changes rather than trying to compile
09:33.57lardmanbollocks
09:34.04lardmanpardon my french
09:34.14libbencant get tweego to work on my n900, it starts and everything, but cant get Login button to respond.
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09:35.04Venemogood morning
09:35.12Venemo~seen MohammadAG
09:35.17infobotmohammadag is currently on #maemo (4h 35m 19s) #meego (4h 35m 19s), last said: 'night peeps'.
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09:40.16RST38hRobbie: LCDs are powered with alternate current (for electrochemical purposes afaik), so shimmering is natural
09:43.08RobbieThe1stYea, but normally the "shimmering" isn't noticeable(or shouldn't be, anyway)
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09:44.26RobbieThe1stI've had a couple of cracked LCDs over the years, but this is the first one to exhibit such shimmering after breaking.
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09:49.26Venemohi
09:49.30RobbieThe1stHello
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09:49.54Venemohas anyone tried to set up a multi-monitor setup with an NVidia card on Linux?
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09:50.59johnxVenemo, yeah. I have one. what kind of setup are you going for?
09:51.36Venemojohnx: I would like to setup an external monitor for my laptop
09:51.47Venemojohnx: this I can do with the nvidia-settings application
09:52.15Venemojohnx: but if I save the config to the xorg.conf, it complains at next boot that it couldn't apply the configuration (even though it does)
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09:52.47Venemojohnx: and in this case, if I boot up with the external monitor not plugged in, the screen is blank at login
09:53.32johnxI think that blank at login might actually be normal for the secondary monitor, but my setup is on a desktop
09:53.46Venemothe laptop's monitor should be the primary one
09:54.08Venemoat least that is the "primary display for the X screen"
09:56.11RST38hRobbie: Normally, power isn't leaking all over your LCD :)
09:56.26RST38hIt only goes where it is designed to go.
09:56.42RobbieThe1stRST38h: That's sort of what I was thinking.
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10:00.04Venemojohnx: any ideas?
10:01.53johnxah, the primary screen is blank at login? hmm, in that case I might have an idea
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10:04.18johnxVenemo, what distro is this?
10:05.01Venemojohnx: Fedora
10:05.10Venemojohnx: plus, I use the properitary drivers
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10:05.58johnxright, do you have the nvidia README.txt? I think it might have something about forcing a primary screen
10:06.47Venemojohnx: I haven't read it
10:07.02Venemojohnx: but the other problem is, it doesn't recognize when I plug out the other screen
10:07.14Venemojohnx: so I have to manually config it every time...
10:08.08johnxhmm, dunno then
10:08.15johnxthe README.txt still might be helpful
10:08.29johnxlike I said though, I set it up on a desktop so it's mostly static config
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10:11.17Venemojohnx: if you plug a display out, does your machine automatically recognize it?
10:11.22sktrdieCan i write java apps for maemo?
10:12.00johnxVenemo, sorry, can't really test right now. not at that computer ...
10:12.54lardmanbbl
10:13.44Venemojohnx: ok, sorry
10:19.41Arkenoivenemo, i had to disable EDID because it was telling me bullshit
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10:23.32RST38hLemmings in the Instinctiv thread are switching from disappointment to hate now
10:23.38RST38hHow typical
10:24.31VenemoArkenoi: how can I do that?
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10:30.49VenemoArkenoi: umm... and where should I put this?
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10:32.33Arkenoixorg,conf, Section "Device" Identifier     "Device0" Driver         "nvidia"
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10:40.20MohammadAGVenemo, wazzup :P
10:42.25VenemoMohammadAG: working on the game
10:42.48VenemoMohammadAG: two puzzle pieces can now stick together, but the problem is, the image of the second one disappears for some weird reason
10:43.50sivangmorning all, again
10:43.57Venemomorning sivang
10:43.57sivangMohammadAG: so HM usb is go? :)
10:44.00sivanghey Venemo
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10:44.34MohammadAGVenemo, ask alterego, he knows more than I do
10:44.45MohammadAGsivang, HM = hostmode? yeah
10:46.37VenemoMohammadAG: figured it out already :)
10:47.23DocScrutinizer51sivang: sure, toldya yesterday
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10:51.34RST38h"The Washington Post reports that Ukraine plans to open up the sealed zone around the Chernobyl reactor to visitors"
10:51.43RST38htimeless <-- missed his chance!
10:55.49Venemoalterego: are you around?
10:56.07alteregoalways :P
10:56.28sivangDocScrutinizer51: very cool
10:57.03Venemoalterego: I may have some questions about the Qt animation framework
10:57.14alteregoVenemo: cool
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11:04.07Venemoalterego: hm, it is simpler than I thought
11:04.13Venemoalterego: my first experiment with it worked
11:04.30alterego:)
11:04.35alteregoIt is simple yes :)
11:05.04alteregoWhich reminds me, I need to do some benchmarks on using parallel animation groups or linking property signals.
11:06.39MohammadAGalterego, commited anything? :P
11:07.06alteregoIn a bit Mohammad :P
11:07.20MohammadAGmoh + tab
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11:07.30alteregoI'll do it whilst setting up this fedora vm
11:07.40alteregowaits for image to download
11:07.54MohammadAGwhy fedora?
11:08.02MohammadAGand what's the host OS?
11:08.16alteregoBecause I can't generate madde sysroots for meego in ubuntu 10.10
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11:08.28alteregoAnd I'm not in the mood to debug :)
11:08.36alteregoThough I might be in the mood later
11:08.43MohammadAGmeh, just chroot and export DISPLAY=:0
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11:09.35alteregoMeh vm + ssh + nfs :)
11:09.46alteregoI don't need the ui
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11:12.24MohammadAGjust chroot :P
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11:18.42Venemoalterego: do you have a few minutes?
11:19.19Venemoalterego: it seems that I need your help anyway :P
11:19.44alteregoGo ahead :)
11:21.43Venemoalterego: pm'd you
11:22.19alteregonoticed :P
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11:24.15cionosI m trying to use the kinect with the nokia n900 (maemo os). Does anyone know if someone else has succeed with it?
11:24.26cionos(hi )
11:25.09fluxcionos, sounds great idea, but in practice I guess processing kinect data can require some heavy processing..
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11:25.57cionosflux: uhm got it.. so you think that the n900 is too slow?
11:26.49fluxyes
11:26.53MohammadAGisn't it? :P
11:26.54fluxbut hey, you can stil try :)
11:27.10fluxperhaps one can go by with fewer frames per second
11:27.24fluxor perhaps the device can be requested to provide smaller images
11:28.13MohammadAGprobaby, but you will see lag in performance compared to an xbox :P
11:28.20cionosuhm
11:28.32cionosthis is true of course..
11:29.04cionosbut using the kinect with a such small device should be very cool, shouldn t it?
11:29.14MohammadAGit might be lighter than the PS Move though
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11:30.30cionosyup
11:30.53kkoehneHi there, I uploaded a package to extras-devel yesterday, and got an e-mail saying "[2010-12-13 17:18:01] Processing package qtquickcompat 0.1.0. Uploader: kkoehne, builder: builder2" ... nothing more.
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11:30.56cionosuhm another thing.. I was looking for a libusb-dev package for maemo but I didn-t find it
11:31.20kkoehneSubject was "[fremantle]: qtquickcompat 0.1.0 UNKNOWN". Anything I can do to find out what's wrong with the package / the builder? Upload the package again?
11:31.48cionosmaybe I will have to compile by myself
11:31.49cionoscheers
11:33.28DocScrutinizersivang: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=895032#post895032
11:35.03X-Fadekkoehne: The last thing I see in the logs is that you forgot the architecture: field.
11:35.14sivangDocScrutinizer: cool, thanks
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11:37.10kkoehneX-Fade: Okay, that's a hint, will fix & resubmit :)
11:37.12kkoehneX-Fade: Thanks.
11:37.34X-Fadekkoehne: https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2010-December/031379.html
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11:38.02MohammadAGX-Fade, any news from Nokia legal? got Qt apps compiling on-device
11:38.03kkoehneX-Fade: Weird that I didn't get the e-mail. Probably marked as SPAM on teh company server :(
11:38.16sivangMohammadAG: what apps?
11:38.29MohammadAGany
11:38.42sivangMohammadAG: what has it got to do with Nokia leagal? :)
11:39.04MohammadAGon device SDK with nokia-binaries
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11:43.10X-FadeMohammadAG: Will try to follow up on that later in the week, busy times...
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11:46.38MohammadAGX-Fade, ack
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11:47.03cionosdo you know why doesn t work the lspci command on maemo ?
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11:53.08knoppix_cionos: is there a pci bus in the N900?
11:53.12retro|czhello, I Have new NOKIA N900
11:53.17retro|czAnd don't know how to open it.
11:53.22retro|czWant to insert SIM card there.
11:53.26retro|czI'm reading manual.
11:53.36retro|czBut I'm afraid I will broke it.
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11:54.04cionosknoppix_: lol no, yep
11:54.05MohammadAGjust use your nail and open it
11:54.21MohammadAGit's hard at first, then it kinda gets easier to open
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11:57.10knoppix_MohammadAG: unintended pun :) just use your nail and open it
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12:07.50comawhiteblah menus in Maemo is confusing
12:08.23MohammadAGfinds the UI cool
12:09.17comawhiteMohammadAG, me too but it's confusing on how to properly do it
12:09.35MohammadAGyou'll get used to it
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12:16.07comawhiteah okay I understand it now
12:17.08DocScrutinizerretro|cz: it's rolling up your footnails, but it actually won't break, just goes off incredibly hard. I use to slide along the gap with fingernail to pry it open slightly and loose the latches. Start at the small opening next to right side speaker and slide down and left until where the LED is. Then start again other direction, and cover falls off like magic
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12:17.51MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, mine falls of pretty damn quick :P
12:17.57DocScrutinizerLOL
12:17.59MohammadAGthanks broken latch at the end
12:18.04MohammadAGoff*
12:18.09DocScrutinizer~mohammadag
12:18.09infoboti heard mohammadag is your father
12:18.16DocScrutinizerbah
12:18.27DocScrutinizerno, you're special
12:19.04MohammadAG:P
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12:20.07MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, brtfs is safe to use on the eMMC right?
12:20.19DocScrutinizernfc
12:20.23DocScrutinizershould
12:20.34DocScrutinizerheard it's made for flash
12:21.09MohammadAGstarts looking at MeeGo on the eMMC
12:21.34DocScrutinizertell me when you're there, I'll follow your breadcrumbs
12:22.18DocScrutinizer...now that I got this extremely cool uBoot :-D
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12:23.04DocScrutinizerat very least I should know what I'm bitching about :-P
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12:24.20MohammadAGheh
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12:34.20jacekowskihttp://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3467/059textcb.jpg
12:34.58MohammadAGsfw?
12:35.36nid0yeah
12:37.08RST38hsocial darwinism in action
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12:37.51MohammadAGlulz, h1 RST38h, hw r u?
12:38.13RST38hgr8 m8!
12:39.01RST38hbsds skppn vwls hs bn knwn fr ctrs whr y r!
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12:39.17comawhitewell I got my menus up and running now :)
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12:39.42DocScrutinizerthrows an "n" at RST38h
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12:40.09DocScrutinizerand a g
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12:41.52comawhiteim shocked at the shitty amount of irc clients available for n900
12:41.54comawhite=\
12:42.10Biblio_pebcomawhite, epic4 :-)
12:42.25comawhiteyou only got xchat = (no native look/feel) same with pidgin
12:42.36RST38hcomawhite: Write your own.
12:42.45ieatlintirssi :P
12:42.46comawhite<PROTECTED>
12:42.50derfOr use ssh+screen+irssi like everyone else.
12:42.57comawhitescrew that
12:43.02Biblio_pebcomawhite, if you need a (a,b)-tester: let me know
12:43.06RST38hThere is a native build of irssi
12:43.11comawhiteBiblio_peb, will do
12:43.16RST38hcomawhite: Come back once you have written one =)
12:43.22comawhiteRST38h, hehe
12:43.22RST38hAnd, moo, derf.
12:43.39derfmo00000000000000oooooooooooooooooooo0o0o
12:43.55comawhiteIdk if you might like it, it will have plugins, scripting (javascript only), adium themes via webkit
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12:44.19JaffaMorning, all
12:44.25comawhitemorn
12:44.34Ro9u3oRwow i just had one heck of a time getting my phone to boot
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12:45.18comawhiteBiblio_peb, you wouldn't be a Qt developer would you? :P
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12:48.02Biblio_pebcomawhite, nope .. I stay terminal mostly. But wouldn't hesitate to start QT when I've a guide + sparrings-partner.
12:48.26comawhiteit's pretty easy to use
12:49.14comawhiteI'm picking code from my desktop irc client mainly and filling in from there and replace some KDE code with pure Qt code where needed
12:49.35comawhitethough my desktop one is in a incomplete state xD
12:50.10comawhitesince I don't have a lot of work to do for the n900 port, it should be pretty quick to implement except on the webkit part which will be the hardest
12:51.18comawhiteanyone know where I find out if there is dbus messages for when you receive a phone call, locked, etc?
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12:52.25sivangirssi for the riles
12:52.27sivangrules
12:52.28sivang;)
12:52.35comawhiteplease
12:52.46comawhiteI don't care to stare at a terminal :P
12:53.09comawhitetry managing 40+ channels in irssi
12:53.52fralsyeah run out of keyboard shortcuts at like 30ish
12:53.53frals:<
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12:54.04Corsacalt-a to the rescue
12:54.14Corsacalt-q I mean :)
12:54.20Corsachmhm wait
12:54.24Corsacis confused
12:54.27Corsacno, alt-a it is :)
12:54.38comawhiteLOL
12:54.40fralsyeah but i have 30 active channels
12:54.41frals;)
12:54.49comawhitei have too many
12:54.51sivangfrals: ctrl+N
12:54.58sivangand ctrl+P
12:55.20fralstakes a while to go from 30 to 40 that way
12:55.21frals;)
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12:55.42fralsbut im still good, closed queries so down to 28!
12:55.46fralsstill have a few keys left
12:55.49sivangfrals: when you do it for long, you get good at it :)
12:56.30sivanganyway, back to Zimbra
12:57.16comawhitewell i'm off to bed, good night guys
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13:14.17Khertan_Hi everyone !
13:15.50MohammadAGhey Khertan_
13:16.01Khertan_Hey MohammadAG
13:16.38MohammadAGimport social.libs
13:16.42MohammadAGwhat's up?
13:16.44MohammadAG:P
13:17.00Khertan_import social.congratulationlib
13:17.15Khertan_I see your Media Player rewrite in Qt ... nice work !
13:17.28MohammadAGstill no backend :P
13:17.39Khertan_MohammadAG: oh ... i'm currently looking for a new job
13:17.49MohammadAGlardman|gone's working on it i think
13:17.54Khertan_hope something with small interest :)
13:17.59MohammadAGhmm, I'm only 17, can't employ :P
13:18.16Khertan_:)
13:18.24MohammadAGask on tmo though
13:18.32Khertan_It s not a suffisant reason :)
13:18.38MohammadAG(seriously, you might get an answer)
13:18.40Khertan_ouch ... my english
13:18.56Khertan_MohammadAG: seriously there isn't only whinner on t.m.o ?
13:19.07Khertan_s/isn't/aren't
13:19.17MohammadAGwell, qole did it once, not sure if he got a job in the end
13:19.22Khertan_:)
13:19.29Khertan_Yep ... maybe a maemo news :)
13:19.56Khertan_with a announce of an update of one of my soft :)
13:21.38Khertan_and else i 'm currently playing with PySide with Khweeteur
13:22.16MohammadAGget it working on meego :P
13:22.17Khertan_and except some minor things ... the binding are working well
13:22.30Khertan_MohammadAG: it should work on Meego too ...
13:22.34Khertan_theorically ...
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13:23.06Khertan_i ve run it already on window, debian squeeze ... so there is no reason to not work on MeeGo
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13:27.11pupnik_nice job Roxio http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22angry+birds%22
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13:41.24Khertan_pupnik_: indeed !
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13:41.39Khertan_Your terms - khweeteur - do not have enough search volume to show graphs. :)
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13:42.45Khertan_pupnik_: they got higher trends than maemo :) http://www.google.com/trends?q=maemo,+angry+bird&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
13:43.04Khertan_and meego :)
13:43.10Khertan_http://www.google.com/trends?q=maemo,+angry+bird,+meego&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
13:44.12Khertan_but i ll believe there result when i see they found something for meego in 2005
13:44.13Khertan_:)
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13:45.39pupnik_interesting
13:45.54Khertan_http://www.meegos.com/ <<< they consider it as many meego :)
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13:47.25korhojoapupnik_, rovio?
13:47.37Khertan_s/there/their
13:48.01pupnik_oops forgot the name
13:48.41pupnik_http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-20013385-233.html  Rovio: Angry Birds at 60,000 downloads a day
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14:03.57yacc_yeah, but the frustrating part is that it's not there for J2ME, it's available on all other platforms, .... So typical kiddy phones like the Samsung Corby are left out, which results in hijacked phones, ...
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14:32.43pupnik_what's that RST38h
14:33.24RST38hpupnik: http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/12388_Where_now_for_Nokia_Tomi_has_a.php
14:33.27RST38hEnjoy
14:34.52pupnik_oh
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14:41.41lardmanafternoon
14:42.26lardmanis there a window attribute to enable tap once to select tap twice to open for a list (i.e. replacing double click) or is it a case of remembering whether an item was previously selected?
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14:53.23DocScrutinizerwhat makes the "[x] use for phonecalls" settings option vanish, in settings->VoIP&Chat->{my sipgate account}->advanced_settings ?
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14:54.29DocScrutinizerthe VoIP account is so far correctly setup, as it signals inbound SIP calls - alas imediately as "missed call" without even starting to ring or anything
14:54.57DocScrutinizerand for outbound calls I can't select this "service" in dialer
14:55.50DocScrutinizeras obviously this would need above mentioned settings-option in the SIP account config, and that vanished for unknown reason
14:57.09DocScrutinizerI know I probably should reflash, but prior to that I'd like to find out what is causing this strange error, and who or what created that cause
14:59.03lardmanAh, anyone got a good example of using setIndexWidget() in a QTableView as my widgets (QLabels) don't appear
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15:02.58DocScrutinizerwow, just got a working inbound call, via said SIP account. But on my h-e-n devel phone :-D
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15:05.53DocScrutinizeranybody with a clue about telepathy and rtcom, could you tell me which files to compare on working 1.1.1 vs non-working 1.2 userland device, regarding above described problem with SIP calls?
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15:10.45magog_hi
15:10.54magog_somebody hear?
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15:13.27javispedromoo
15:13.54magog_can you help me with madde and n900?
15:14.23javispedro~ask
15:14.23infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
15:14.47magog_mad-admin create n900 -a 192.168.2.15
15:15.03magog_Copying setup files to runtime failed
15:15.05magog_Creating runtime 'n900' with address '192.168.2.15' failed
15:15.12magog_but ping work
15:15.31magog_ssh work
15:15.36javispedrohave you install mad-developer on the n900?
15:15.39magog_yes
15:16.15magog_i configured it as in wiki
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15:17.47javispedrono other message?
15:17.51magog_no
15:17.54magog_only this 2
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15:18.54magog_i configured qtcreator for n900
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15:20.33javispedrodo you have free space in target device?
15:20.38magog_yes
15:20.43magog_over 20 Gb
15:20.45javispedrohttp://meego.gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/madde/blobs/master/src/madlib/ma-create-runtime.sh#line59 this is where the message is printed
15:20.50magog_GB*
15:20.52javispedrono, that's not application space
15:21.06javispedroon a terminal, write "df -h /"
15:21.52javispedrohm, actually.
15:22.07javispedrogo to control panel -> memory
15:22.32javispedroand check that there's reasonable free space (> 100 MiB) on every filesystem
15:23.24magog_63.7 available on /
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15:24.00magog_> 100 MiB - does it really information?
15:25.13magog_i don't know how i get 100 MB on /
15:25.24javispedronot on /, but on the memory applet listed filesystems.
15:25.24magog_it's impossible, i think
15:25.54magog_in memory applet
15:26.13magog_~19GB and 1,4 Gb free
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15:27.03javispedrothen other than the mad-developer package having failed to install no idea.
15:28.14magog_can you give me advice to solve this problem?
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15:40.05VenemoMohammadAG: do you feel like testing?
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15:44.12chem|stVenemo: feel what?
15:44.58Venemotesting my newest app
15:45.04chem|stVenemo: link?
15:46.04chem|stVenemo: or if in testing the name...
15:46.13chem|sterhm devel
15:46.28Venemonot in the repos yet
15:46.38magog_what apps?
15:47.05magog_app*
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15:47.46Venemoit'll be a puzzle game
15:48.49magog_goof
15:48.52magog_good*
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15:50.11magog_i want to write some applicatins, but can't cinfigure n900+maddle
15:50.37Venemooh, yes
15:50.42VenemoI see your message on #maemo-devel
15:50.56Venemoyou don't need to use the command line at all if you want to connect your device with your PC
15:51.04Venemo1) install Mad Developer app on the N900
15:51.13magog_yes
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15:51.24Venemo2) configure USB networking with Mad Developer (you can use wifi too, then this is unnecessary)
15:51.28magog_yes
15:51.48Venemo3) open Qt Creator settings, go to the Maemo devices tab, then add your N900
15:51.54magog_yes
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15:52.31Venemoenter its IP, then enter a password. (click on "developer password" in Mad Developer on the N900 -> the password will be only valid until that dialog is on the screen)
15:52.43Venemoif it works, then you can deploy your SSH key
15:52.44magog_yes
15:52.48BCMMhow does that system compare with scratchbox? is it just for Qt applications?
15:52.59VenemoBCMM: no, it is for others too
15:53.04Venemoafter that, click on "test" -> if works, then you're done
15:53.24magog_Venemo: i did this
15:53.29BCMMand how does it work? is it basically just an automated way of copying your binary to the n900 and executing it there?
15:53.30VenemoBCMM: you can develop non-Qt too, but MADDE itself cooperates with Qt Creator well
15:53.48VenemoBCMM: yes, and it also contains the cross-compiler and other tools
15:53.51magog_i can build project in qt creator
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15:54.00cicianoshi all
15:54.30cicianoswhen I transfer something in the n900 where is ? which folder? (noob question)
15:54.56magog_but i can't run it in n900 without copy deb packet from PC to N900 and install it on n900
15:55.21Venemowell then enable the "skip packaging step" option
15:55.24magog_cicianos: how do you transfers?
15:55.25BCMMcicianos: did you forget a word?
15:56.08cicianosBCMM: please?
15:56.14cicianosmagog_: a .deb file
15:56.23BCMMcicianos: if you're looking for the filesystem that the file manager lets you see, it's mounted at /home/user/MyDocs
15:56.37magog_Venemo: when? When I run project in qtcreator - run fails with error
15:56.44BCMMcicianos: no, i didn't mean please, i meant i didn't understand the "where is ? " bit
15:56.48cicianosBCMM: I went there but there is nothing.. maybe is because is still connected to the pc?
15:56.57BCMMcicianos: yeah, you need to disconnect
15:57.02cicianosBCMM: ah okk
15:57.09cicianoscheers
15:57.24BCMMcicianos: when you choose "mass storage mode", the n900 unmounts that filesystem so the PC can mount it
15:57.36BCMMit automatically mounts it again when you disconnect from the PC
15:57.51cicianosBCMM: ah ok now makes sense
15:58.27cicianosand another question: I tried apt-get install hostmode-gui but my n900 doesn t find the package
15:58.59magog_error is  "Error: Errot creating package: Command "dpkg-buildpackage -nc -uc -us" return error.Code exiting: 255"
15:59.18Venemomagog_: already told you to check the "skip packaging step" option
15:59.30Venemomagog_: you can find it in the project tab, under the maemo build config
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16:03.06magog_Venemo: i understand you
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16:04.06magog_i have in Build: General, Build step, clean step and build environment
16:04.55magog_in Run i have: Create package and Deploy to device
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16:05.35cicianoscd /debian
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16:11.08Venemomagog_: Build/Build steps/Create package -> CLICK -> check "skip packaging step"
16:11.30cicianosno one knows?
16:12.42Venemocicianos: what's the question?
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16:14.36magog_Venemo: Build/Build steps/Create package - i haven't this
16:14.49Venemo[17:04] <magog_> in Run i have: Create package and Deploy to device
16:15.28magog_yes
16:15.29magog_in run
16:15.32magog_i click
16:16.03magog_and see Version number, Adapt debian file and package manager icon
16:16.09magog_that is all
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16:16.33Venemois your Qt Creator up to date?
16:16.53magog_2.1.0_rc1
16:17.12magog_Qt Creator 2.0.94
16:17.24magog_it is old?
16:17.38Venemomaybe this feature got removed from it
16:17.45Venemomine is the latest stable, not RC
16:18.18magog_2.1.0_rc1 - this in my gentoo from layman qting-edge
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16:18.36magog_Qt Creator 2.0.94 - this is in About menu in qt creator
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16:23.38magog_i will try to update and see in 2.9999 or in 9999..
16:23.57Venemothis was an idiot
16:25.55VenemoMohammadAG: ping
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16:28.47Venemoalterego: ping
16:28.58alteregopong
16:29.02Venemo:)
16:29.14alteregoOn N900 though, I'm waiting for bus home.
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16:29.50SpeedEvilwonders if there is an API to get the latenesses of stagecoach busses.
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16:30.07alteregoSpeedEvil: gimmie :P
16:30.21alteregoI'm waiting for a Stagecoach now ..
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16:30.38alteregoThis time of day they're fscking bad
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16:31.24Venemo:P
16:31.30Venemolcuk: ping
16:32.23SpeedEvilalterego: I know there is some sort of RF checkin with base - at least in Fife - as the signs update.
16:32.54alteregoThe ones in Cambridge seem to just state the timetable.
16:33.05jacekowskithey do have that sort of thing in colchester as well
16:33.16jacekowskibut it only shows you ETA
16:33.24jacekowskinot when bus was supposed to be here
16:34.04alteregoCool
16:34.28alteregoWell, things aren't helped by me being in the ass end of nowhere right now :D
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16:37.42SpeedEvilWhere ar eyou?
16:38.21rm_workwoo, finally got past firewall for IRC
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16:38.55rm_workwaves at lcuk / GAN900 / others
16:39.37SpeedEvil:wave rm_work.
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16:43.28alteregofinally nus is here
16:43.31alteregobus ..
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16:47.36DocScrutinizeranybody with a clue about telepathy and rtcom, could you tell me which files to compare on working 1.1.1 vs non-working 1.2 userland device, regarding above (~2h ago) described problem with SIP calls?
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16:49.33alteregoDocScrutinizer: .rtcomm-accounts/*
16:49.45DocScrutinizeralterego: thanks
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16:50.24chem|stjacekowski: we got that ETA for busses in town too, actualy only for the mainstation but it is a smaller city... only 97k ppl
16:50.28DocScrutinizeralterego: any further idea what might cause this weird thing?
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16:50.36Gh0stynice ^^
16:50.44Gh0styusing the n900 as usb 3g router :p
16:50.45alteregoDocScrutinizer: dunno, didn't read you post, ang on.
16:50.59Gh0styi love it more and more ... the more i read about it the more i like it :p
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16:51.12slonopotamus_i hate the man who packaged busybox for maemo. find has -print0 but xargs doesn't have -0
16:51.24Gh0styis there a way to take over the screen of the n900 over usb? :p
16:51.49alteregoDocScrutinizer: could you repaste, I'm getting bored of pgup on the N900
16:51.59DocScrutinizernp
16:52.05chem|stGh0sty: my 5 year old "just a" phone did that...
16:52.17chem|stGh0sty: sure with ssh and x2x
16:52.22slonopotamus_Gh0sty: 1. take usb videocam. 2. connect it to usb 3. point it at n900 4. ??? 5. PROFIT!
16:52.27chem|stbut you cannot see a mouse on it
16:52.29Gh0sty:P
16:52.34Gh0styslaps slonopotamus_
16:52.40DocScrutinizer[2010-12-14 15:53:22] <DocScrutinizer> what makes the "[x] use for phonecalls" settings option vanish, in settings->VoIP&Chat->{my sipgate account}->advanced_settings ?
16:52.41DocScrutinizer[2010-12-14 15:54:29] <DocScrutinizer> the VoIP account is so far correctly setup, as it signals inbound SIP calls - alas imediately as "missed call" without even starting to ring or anything
16:52.43DocScrutinizer[2010-12-14 15:54:57] <DocScrutinizer> and for outbound calls I can't select this "service" in dialer
16:52.44DocScrutinizer[2010-12-14 15:55:50] <DocScrutinizer> as obviously this would need above mentioned settings-option in the SIP account config, and that vanished for unknown reason
16:52.46DocScrutinizer[2010-12-14 15:57:08] <DocScrutinizer> I know I probably should reflash, but prior to that I'd like to find out what is causing this strange error, and who or what created that cause
16:53.28Gh0stychem|st: oh thats not bad, just looking is enough
16:53.35Gh0stygoogles x2x
16:53.38chem|stGh0sty: 4. connect /dev/videoX of your system to /dev/video2 at n900 via ssh
16:53.52slonopotamus_chem|st: meh... you'll need usb hand for that
16:53.52Gh0styaah like that :)
16:53.56alteregoDocScrutinizer: don't know, check the differences in the account config, I've not managed to setup sip yet.
16:54.10DocScrutinizerI'm about to do that
16:54.49Gh0stythx for the tip chem|st
16:54.53alteregoThere is a "use for telephone numbers" option?
16:55.09alteregoin account settings ui, probably not you issue though.
16:55.55chem|stslonopotamus_: mplayer on both sides could do the trick...
16:58.08yacc_Gh0sty, it's called x11vnc?
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16:59.34rm_workx2x also, but is it outdated or is it still maintained?
16:59.59chem|styacc_: not recommended for video transfer only...
17:00.04rm_workhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X2x
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17:00.09chem|strm_work: does not matter... it works!
17:00.17rm_work:P truth to that
17:01.01chem|stso have to catch a bus... later
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17:03.25trxDocScrutinizer about headset-control , this app is for that *one* button only, not for headsets with multiple buttons(next, pause, play, etc..)?
17:03.46DocScrutinizeryes
17:04.08trxis the limitation hardware or software?
17:04.53DocScrutinizertrx: the protocol to handle multimedia-multibutton-headsets isn't understood yet (by the people wo look into that for N900)
17:05.16DocScrutinizertrx: according to my investigations so far it's software
17:05.35trxoh, good
17:05.48trxi was under the impression that it was hardware limit...
17:05.52DocScrutinizerN95 hw looks rather similar to N900, regarding the AV connector
17:06.45DocScrutinizeralas I have no N95 and also no multibutton headset, so I hardly can do any tests to understand how signaling is done
17:07.10trxi have one from my old 5800
17:07.42trxbut i dont see any signals other than from dmseg
17:07.48trxdmesg*
17:07.58trxreporting that headset is connected
17:08.17DocScrutinizersome hw hacker in possession of a MB-headset, a matching phone, and a logic analyzer or better an oscilloscope, must do this
17:09.14trxif i understand correctly signals are defined by resistance?
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17:09.42DocScrutinizercompletely unclear. Probably not - it's likely to be some serial protocol
17:10.36DocScrutinizerthink about it like if the one-button headset would do morse code with the one button
17:10.41DocScrutinizerjust faster
17:10.49trxyep
17:10.52DocScrutinizerthat's what I guess it will turn out to be
17:11.04SpeedEvilimagines a large morse key mounted as a medallion.
17:11.16SpeedEvil60wpm SMS
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17:12.38DocScrutinizermumbles HDQ :-S
17:13.04DocScrutinizerbq27000 smart battery "bsi"
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17:13.17DocScrutinizerone-wire serial protocol
17:14.22DocScrutinizerif I had to design such a thing, I'd go for HDQ I guess
17:14.59MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, who has an oscilloscope then
17:15.09trxi dont, thats for sure :)
17:15.13DocScrutinizerheh, good question
17:15.16MohammadAGhas access to one
17:15.19trxwill a multimeter do? :P
17:15.28DocScrutinizerhehe, alas not
17:15.42MohammadAGhow much time do I need?
17:15.42trxdidnt think so :)
17:15.58DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: depends how good you are as an EE
17:16.00MohammadAGcause I doubt my school will take "I'm hacking a headset" as an answer
17:16.08trxlol
17:16.41DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: if you prepare a few tools in advance, you'll need maybe 10 min
17:16.51MohammadAGo_O
17:17.27MohammadAGwhat's the procedure?
17:17.43DocScrutinizerbut having a bit of experience with scopes would help a lot
17:18.00MohammadAGall I know it has a display, some buttons and dials and two plugs
17:18.13MohammadAGwell, my teacher -might- help
17:18.41DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: you need a AV adapter to plug to N95 and plug in headset, and have a convenient way to wiretap all 4 wires
17:19.15MohammadAGhmm? what AV adapter?
17:19.26MohammadAGthe rest I have access to 3 of
17:19.36DocScrutinizerthen you attach the scope probe to GND and mic wire, and press a few buttons and see what the scope shows
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17:19.42MohammadAGoh, and mine makes that 4
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17:21.29DocScrutinizerto make sure, you probe the audio-out L&R wires, though I think they shouldn't have any data signal or anything, except the music which you don't want to playback during test
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17:22.51MohammadAGactually, the headset can know when something is plugged into it
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17:23.14MohammadAGthe headset is a 2-plug one, one plug goes in the N95 which has only media controls and a mic
17:23.19DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: actually your AV probe adapter might use a bit more sophisticated setup, if you can get access to a 2-channel scope (nowadays most are at least 2-chan)
17:23.40MohammadAGthe other plug is a headset which goes into the media button part
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17:24.07DocScrutinizerooh, so it's a extension cable with controls
17:24.11MohammadAGif the latter isn't plugged, the N95 outputs sound to the loudspeaker
17:24.21MohammadAGiirc
17:24.22DocScrutinizer:nod:
17:24.23MohammadAGchecks
17:26.29MohammadAGyep
17:26.37MohammadAGit doesn't show a symbol FYI
17:27.03MohammadAG(btw, testing N95 headset on an N86, can't find the N95's battery since I charge my N900 in it :P
17:28.16DocScrutinizerdoesn't matter
17:28.56MohammadAGindeed
17:29.13yashaany news about an injection driver??
17:30.24DocScrutinizeralterego: most significant difference in rtcom/accounts.cfg is the 1.2 has no param-password=abcdef entry anymore
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17:30.43MohammadAG[ 1329.788452] input: headset button as /class/input/input5
17:32.14MohammadAGand indeed, the N900 doesn't give two shits about keypresses :P
17:32.28javispedroat the input layer, or application layer?
17:32.34javispedrohave you cat /dev/input/event5
17:33.03MohammadAGalready have
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17:33.44javispedroif nothing appears on /dev/input/* then kernel is where you should look nex
17:33.44javispedrot
17:34.04javispedrobtw, I'm having a thought lately...
17:34.08DocScrutinizerirrelevant, it's been tested by me, and it's known to not work
17:34.21javispedroanyone has a reason why the N900 doesn't use SHM?
17:34.25javispedrosorry
17:34.31javispedroanyone has a reason why the N900 PulseAudio doesn't use SHM?
17:34.42DocScrutinizerwhatever that is
17:34.49MohammadAGjavispedro, the button has a dev input node, it just doesn't output anything
17:35.17javispedroMohammadAG: more reason to go and see what the kernel does :)
17:35.28DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: that's because the mb-headset doesn't input anything reasonable to the N900
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17:35.44MohammadAGs/N900/kernel/ no?
17:36.03DocScrutinizerno, N900=hw
17:36.39MohammadAGhmm
17:36.44MohammadAGyou're right
17:36.47MohammadAGit detects it as a headset
17:36.51DocScrutinizerI already did that test, with multimeter and other tools, with MB-HS and N900
17:37.07MohammadAG(and how the f*** did my battery charge fully in 20 minutes?!)
17:37.13javispedroponders whether patching pulse to use SHM would be a performance benefit ...
17:37.28MohammadAGor a call dropper :P
17:37.31DocScrutinizerwhat is SHM?
17:37.34javispedroshared memory
17:37.45MohammadAGhmm
17:37.51MohammadAGshouldn't affect calls right?
17:38.03javispedroDocScrutinizer: yes, it doesn't use shared memory right now. you're reading that well. it does push every single byte of audio via a unix domain socket.
17:38.12MohammadAGcalls don't affect the CPU as much as internet calls do
17:38.52DocScrutinizerI know, that's what PolypAudio does
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17:39.18javispedrothis polyp has some shm mode, but it's disabled on the n900
17:39.33DocScrutinizerbasic design principle, so it can do networked audio
17:39.34javispedroand I'm looking for a valid reason before I waste a few minutes trying to hack around it
17:39.38MohammadAGenable it
17:39.44MohammadAGoh right
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17:40.48DocScrutinizerPoopAss is broken by design
17:41.11DocScrutinizeras is avahi
17:41.25javispedroDocScrutinizer: not necessarily, like the X11 server, it can use a socket for remote connections and shm for local ones
17:42.03javispedro... on X11 the benefit of using shm is way more appreciable though, for obvious reasons (large, static pixmaps, etc)
17:42.15DocScrutinizer51yes, of course
17:42.41javispedrowell, no valid cons in a few minutes
17:42.45javispedrotime to hack :)
17:44.30DocScrutinizer51see if you can find CONFIG-NUKE-POLYP
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17:51.26trxDocScrutinizer http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.bmc.de/20-605-200-0110_isa-bus-messkarten-bmc-messsysteme.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8
17:51.42trxby the text from there do you know if this can do what we need?
17:51.52trxi have one but never used it :/
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17:53.37DocScrutinizertrx: yes, this is really fine for the headset probing
17:54.19trxone problem tho
17:54.26trxactually two :)
17:54.34trxfirst, i dont have a n95
17:54.37trxi have 5800
17:54.42trxwill that do?
17:55.02trxsecond, i first have to figure out how to use that card :)
17:56.05trxbrb
17:56.09DocScrutinizer51if the 5800 works with that multibutton headset then it's all you need
17:56.18trxit works with it
17:56.20trxit came with it
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18:00.59GAN900rm_work, hey-oh.
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18:05.24rm_work:P
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18:05.43rm_workso with IRC at work, hanging out here should be much easier
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18:12.26javispedrook, I got a prototype shm-systemmode-pulse working on my host, time to move to n900...
18:12.50lardmanhmm I can't see, to find any example code for setIndexWidget(), everyone seems to use custom delegates...
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18:33.12lardmanargh, delegates are for the entire table, so that's not ideal
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18:33.33lardmanwhy are tables such a pita
18:33.34lardman?
18:33.42NooBmonk3yis eating pita.........
18:34.12SpeedEvilis eating kippers.
18:34.14SpeedEvilnom.
18:34.26NooBmonk3ylol
18:34.51javispedrowants pita
18:35.03NooBmonk3y:)
18:35.31Venemogood morning NooBmonk3y :)
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18:35.45NooBmonk3yMorrrrrrrrrrrrrrnin
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18:38.25javispedroprepares to hose his n900
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18:39.56SpeedEvilputs on some Marvin Gaye.
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18:40.13Proteousprepares to nose nis n900
18:40.39Proteousslight citris hints with some vanilla and chocolate tones
18:40.48Proteousor is that the hand soap
18:40.55MohammadAGjavispedro, I think you beat you to it :P
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18:43.58MohammadAGhttp://i54.tinypic.com/142ympz.jpg muhahahaha
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18:44.47javispedroUnpacking replacement pulseaudio ...
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18:45.02javispedroMohammadAG: fortunately that should not prevent maemo to boot :)
18:45.22MohammadAGjavispedro, replacing pulseaudio is safe
18:45.29MohammadAGbut then again, I have no watchdog
18:46.03javispedrowe just told each other the same thing. let's see what happens =)
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18:46.19MohammadAGjavispedro, IO error :P
18:46.55MohammadAGjavispedro, I knew I'd beat you to it
18:47.03javispedrobah, I lost.
18:47.22MohammadAGyou owe me a deb
18:48.16pupnikjavispedro: did you see my music vid?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVAwoFZKUSQ
18:48.27javispedrook, preeliminary stupid benchmark: without shm, mplayer around 40%, pulseaudio around 13%
18:48.28pupnikneeds HD
18:48.44javispedrowait a bit, I'm going to break my n900 :)
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18:50.36pupnikno hurry.  just some fun
18:50.54pupniki'm very happy with the cellular-automata effect
18:53.24lardmancome on chaps, does no-one know about setIndexWidget()?
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18:53.46magog_hi
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18:55.26magog_i saw last version of qt-creator. It is terrible
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18:56.12meceno it's not. it's quite nice.
18:56.36magog_no
18:56.43meceyes
18:56.55MohammadAGwhat's terrible about it?
18:57.12magog_i don't find options for Maemo
18:57.19magog_for example
18:57.40magog_can't open *.pro projects
18:57.59magog_can't create any type of project
18:58.48pupnikfacebook connections worldwide (large) http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1382.snc4/163413_479288597199_9445547199_5658562_14158417_n.jpg
19:02.47lardmanmece: try adding anything to a VBoxLayout in QtDesigner, I've no clue how that's supposed to work
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19:03.52mecemagog_, well I can do all those things with qt creator, so obviously you're doing something wrong.
19:03.59mecelardman, I don't use qt designer.
19:04.38BCMMi'm just getting in to Qt programming - at the risk of starting a flamewar, what are the pros and cons of using creator as opposed to just writing cpp and using qmake?
19:04.51magog_mece: version?
19:05.00BCMMi mean, using designer to arrange widgets
19:05.17magog_use hands and text editor and brain
19:05.25mecemagog_, no idea :D something recent.
19:05.54meceBCMM, well I use qt creator as a text editor with benefits
19:06.44BCMMmece: yeah, didn't mean to speak that broadly, i'm sure it has typical IDE code-completion features and all that
19:06.44magog_i tested this  in 2.1.84 and live  version of qt-creator
19:06.49BCMMi mean, drag 'n' drop versus typing out code for arranging widgets
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19:07.31BCMMi mean, are there features that are not easily accessible without using the designer? will it eventually get infeasibly complicated? or is it just a matter of personal taste?
19:07.59lardmanbut drag and drop doesn't work that well with it
19:08.06lardmanimho
19:08.08meceBCMM, well it's helpful when you don't know what you're doing, like me.
19:08.31BCMMi'm explaining myself badly
19:08.37meceanyway I have to go. Sorry to bud out mid-conversation. I guess qt creator is not for everyone, but I like it.
19:08.58lardmancu mece
19:09.00magog_i want to use it for maemo development
19:09.09BCMMah, so nothing really "missing" from hand-coding the GUI, just a matter of convenience and preference?
19:09.25lardmanmagog_: I use it fine for maemo dev, just curse the ui designer everytime I have to use it
19:09.33BCMMi've used it so far just to get an idea of what the different widget classes do
19:10.23magog_i can't run my app on device via usb
19:12.00yaccJust out of curiosity, are there known problems with the n900 that would make it not recognize the SIM card, or is it just a case of a hardware fault and I should be googling for Nokia service centers?
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19:12.45magog_O_o
19:12.58BCMMyacc: i suppose you've tried taking sim card and batter out for a reasonable length of time, cleaning dust from simcard contacts, etc?
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19:13.05BCMM^battery
19:13.18BCMM(on no account batter your sim card, they still don't taste very good)
19:14.48yaccBCMM, yeah, removing the SIM card and putting it in again usually helps. restarting the phone sometimes helps, offline & normal mode might help too, and sometime toogling Dual/GSM/3G helps too), ...
19:15.03BCMMyacc: is it an old sim card?
19:15.44andre__yacc: I've seen that problem several times myself too
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19:16.04yaccBCMM, less than 12 months, the only specific part being that it's from a "virtual operator", and I usually need to enable data roaming even in the home network.
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19:16.15yaccandre__, so what did you do?
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19:16.43andre__yacc, reboot, or slap the N900 on a table?
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19:17.10yaccandre__, *whistle* I can see that you've choosen a similar strategy, ...
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19:17.30yaccandre__, but it does not make me that happy if I happen to be offline while on the run, ...
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19:17.53yacchmmm, I guess I'll try a SIM card from a different operator for some time and see if the problem disappears, ...
19:18.07andre__there is https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10056 and some other report I can't find right now
19:18.09povbot`Bug 10056: Loses recognition of SIM Card after a while
19:18.27pupnikcheers for spelling loses right
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19:19.11yaccMy UK O2 card worked immediatly, but then this is not exactly a proof of anything, as turning it off and pulling the simcard out is one of the most reliable ways to get it going again, ...
19:19.28andre__probably https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9391
19:19.29povbot`Bug 9391: Cellular access unavaible with "no access" error but works after reboot
19:21.07yaccPlease either contact Nokia Care services via www.nokia.com or contact the
19:21.07yacccompany who sold the product to you as hardware issues are out of scope for
19:21.07yaccmaemo.org Bugzilla.
19:21.21yaccThat makes me happy, NOT.
19:21.53andre__yacc: yeah, it didn't make me happy either, though I was the messenger of that statement :-/
19:22.45magog_I create in qt creator simple maemo application - Hello world.
19:23.18magog_i configured n900 with qt creator
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19:23.44magog_"build project" work good
19:24.15magog_but when I do "run project" i have error: Packaging Error: Command 'dpkg-buildpackage -nc -uc -us' failed.Exit code: 255
19:25.05magog_what I should  do to run my application on n900?
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19:27.43andre__magog_, what OS do you run qt-creator on?
19:27.57magog_gentoo
19:28.29magog_i know that in gentoo there is no dpkg
19:29.30magog_but i read wiki and try to do this via mad/mad-admin. But I can't create runtime.
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19:30.09magog_./mad-admin create n900 -a 192.168.2.15
19:30.24magog_Copying setup files to runtime failed
19:30.25magog_Creating runtime 'n900' with address '192.168.2.15' failed
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19:33.43RST38h"Researchers have recorded a relation between arithmetical operations done by SCP-468-1 and the movement of SCP-468-2. For example, SCP-468-1 moving to multiply 10 and 32 resulted in a 10 by 32 grid pattern, with outlying houses forming a perimeter around the resultant grid."
19:35.13Arkenoi468?
19:35.36magog_=(
19:36.04RST38hArkenoi: the Chinese village abacus
19:37.59pupnikwtf
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19:38.47yaccandre__, another feature of my n900 seems to be that it takes sometimes extremely long to reacquire GSM/UMTS at all (voice too, not only data), e.g. I ride down into the garage, which is no coverage, when I get out of the garage, sometimes the phone has not rediscovered the network after driving the whole length of Vienna.
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19:39.25yaccandre__, and I think I'm similar to the first one, because the "no sim" inserted pop ups, if it does the next time, I'll check if my IMEI is missing too.
19:39.30MohammadAGjavispedro, how's it going? :P
19:40.08andre__yacc: Vienna, this satellite city with >50meter high skyscrapers everywhere that make reception harder? :-P
19:40.16ArkenoiRST38h, ah, nice thing
19:40.17andre__I think I've also seen a ticket about that IIRC
19:40.36MohammadAGvienna's skycrapers? or the N900?
19:40.45MohammadAGooh, nice typo
19:40.54MohammadAGskyscrapers*
19:41.03trumeeclick on menus suck in microb. instead of dropping down and stop, an extra click even is registered.
19:41.06javispedroMohammadAG: no appreciable difference in performance :(
19:41.24MohammadAGjavispedro, I WIN!
19:41.40trumeego to www.ebuyer.com and click on any menu, the behaviour is different to firefox.
19:41.49trumeeanybody noticed that?
19:42.15yaccandre__, no Vienna in Austria, the city where you have full coverage in the underground, and where the stupid telcos are already putting in LTE, ...
19:42.44andre__yacc, ;-)
19:42.48MohammadAGtrumee, that's cause you're moving a mouse in firefox, not clicking it
19:42.52MohammadAGuse hover mode
19:43.10trumeeMohammadAG, i see.
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19:43.25MohammadAGbefore asking what that is, read the manual :P
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19:43.36yaccandre__, yeah, LTE in the city where I can have unlimited 100mbit/10mbit cable in most places, LTE where the business models calls for pay-by-mb will be really competive, ...
19:43.59yaccandre__, especially as for most stuff you want to do on a mobile EDGE is quite okay, ...
19:45.02trumeehugs MohammadAG for the tip. Was making me go crazy.
19:45.43andre__impressive
19:46.03andre__still has Vienna on the to-do list though it's only 4 hours by train, grumble
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19:46.50yaccandre__, anyway, I'll switch tomorrow to a prepaid SIM from yesss.at which is virtual on top of Orange AT, and see if it goes away, if so, I can assume it's a compatibility with SIM card or bad SIM card problem. If it happens again, I'll have to assume it's hardware, and my brand new N900 wanders to Nokia. Wonder if they can figure out from the IMEI how young the device or if I need to find the invoice, ...
19:47.01yaccandre__, 4 hours? That would be Munich?
19:47.19andre__more to the north than to the west :)
19:47.48yaccPrague? *lol* Cracow would be more like 5 hours nowadays by car.
19:47.56andre__bingo :-P
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19:49.38yaccNow that leaves the question if there is a way to backup the Flash or do I need to install MeeGo on SDHC to be able to backup the internal flash as a block device?
19:50.39yaccandre__, well, I have to admit I know CZ only from going through it, and the biggest city that I've been passing through has been Brno, and that one had passby motorway already in the Communist times.
19:51.44andre__hehe. yeah, it's something to pass when taking the train to Berlin, I agree :-P
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19:57.40magog_somebody know hove to solve my problem or not?
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20:05.19luke-jrWAIT WHAT
20:05.27luke-jrSimply Mobile really needs to make their fine print bigger
20:05.38luke-jr"All telecom taxes *included* in the plan price"
20:07.51yaccluke-jr, I'd say that's the norm in most civilized places. OTOH we still haven't fixed that one for flights, although they are starting to move into this direction, ...
20:08.13luke-jryacc: over here the norm is about $10 more in taxes
20:11.20Venemo~seen lcuk
20:11.32infobotlcuk is currently on #maemo (2d 3h 58m 4s) #meego (2d 3h 58m 4s). Has said a total of 219 messages. Is idling for 21h 31m 57s, last said: 'CosmoHill, :)'.
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20:13.38magog_how to create runtime on n900 via madde
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20:17.25MohammadAGhmm, how does one use /dev/ttyACM0?
20:17.31andre__magog_, see http://wiki.maemo.org/MADDE/QtCreator_integration_for_windows ?
20:17.52lardman~lart setIndexWidget()
20:17.52infobotslaps setIndexWidget() around with a large trout
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20:21.02magog_andre__: how it can help me if i use linux?
20:21.02siceloMohammadAG, /dev/ttyACM0: I think it is just a modem. (but i think i'm not getting your true meaning :/)
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20:21.22MohammadAGhmm, so it's not a console? :/
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20:21.34MohammadAGwhat use is the N900's modem in a rescue image
20:22.12MohammadAGresizes his N900's eMMC, expects problems cause of battery drainage
20:23.01andre__magog_, well, you never said that. what is the *exact* problem?
20:23.23andre__which exact steps (URL?) did you follow?
20:23.42magog_i did all from wiki
20:23.58magog_and from docs from madde
20:24.02siceloMohammadAG: unfortunately i don't yet own N900. but generally, /dev/ttyACM0 is a modem, and can be used through wvdial. I think the driver is cdc-acm
20:24.12magog_but i can't create runtime
20:24.25yaccMohammadAG, ttyACM0 in a rescue image does not make to much sense, I guess.
20:24.50MohammadAGI enabled USB networking, and got ssh: connect to host 192.168.2.15 port 22: Connection refused
20:25.20MohammadAGwanted to turn off the backlight, and ">" isn't a char I can type in the rescue image
20:25.25MohammadAGwhich is... kinda retarded
20:25.28yaccMohammadAG, ttyACM0 is basically more or less an UMTS modem, with the slight difference that it will not honor the dial command, it will instead share your mobile connection.
20:25.29magog_and when i try to create qemu runtime - i get "QEMU startup failed"
20:26.42yaccMohammadAG, so for my place the emergency internet connectivity when my cable modem goes on strike, is having the N900 use USB routing to my PC for Internet access, while the PC is using wvdial and the N900's ttyACM0 to connect to the Internet via UMTS. I know sounds a little bit sick, but works like a charm, ...
20:27.31MohammadAGyeah, but use is that in an N900 rescue image :P
20:27.35MohammadAGnot a human rescue image
20:27.59MohammadAGI wonder how long shrinking the eMMC is going to take
20:29.56yaccMohammadAG, well, that depends if you have the possibility to connect to the mobile network in the rescue image, it might make sense.
20:30.19MohammadAGit's just a shell script at boot up :P
20:30.24yaccAnyway, the g_nokia.ko module that happens to provide the USB networking also creates ttyACM0.
20:31.09andre__magog_, as long as you don't even tell me the wikipage nobody will be able to help you.
20:31.18andre__I asked for the URL already.
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20:32.42magog_andre__: http://wiki.maemo.org/MADDE/Device_runtime
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20:34.17andre__magog_, and the problem is what exactly?
20:34.26magog_on 4 step
20:34.38magog_i can't create runtime
20:34.51andre__...and why?
20:34.56andre__output, please.
20:35.06magog_i do ./mad-admin create n900 -a 192.168.2.15
20:35.29magog_Copying setup files to runtime failed
20:35.31magog_Creating runtime 'n900' with address '192.168.2.15' failed
20:35.37magog_this is output
20:35.49andre__magog_, there is nothing like that mentioned in step 4
20:36.10magog_4. ON HOST: Create runtime
20:36.13andre__ah. you are in Step *3* Set up a "Device runtime"
20:36.20andre__section 4 of step 3. ooookay.
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20:41.13javispedroso, not using shm is actually faster :(
20:41.26javispedroeven though it writes around 100KiB of data per second
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20:43.35magog_i can't understand why it not work
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20:55.26magog_andre__: what do you think about it&
20:55.27magog_?
20:56.15andre__is that the complete output? nothing else?
20:56.47magog_that is complete output
20:58.20magog_n
21:04.48andre__magog_, and your n900 is not connected via usb or something? the ip address is definitely right? you can ssh on it?
21:04.56magog_yes
21:05.01magog_ssh work
21:05.03magog_ping work
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21:05.17magog_connected via usb
21:05.30magog_qt-creator test work good? too
21:05.39magog_qt-creator test work good, too
21:11.02Venemomagog_: then what's the problem?
21:12.16andre__magog_, so while trying this with you have the N900 connected via usb? did you try without usb?
21:13.14magog_yes
21:13.19magog_try via wlan
21:13.36andre__which of my two questions did you answer with "yes"?
21:14.23MohammadAGhow do I create a btrfs partition?
21:16.21magog_this problem repeats with any type of connection
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21:20.03andre__magog_, can you answer my question?
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21:21.29magog_andre__: i answered for all your questions
21:21.38andre__magog_, no, you did not
21:21.44andre__<andre__> which of my two questions did you answer with "yes"?
21:21.44magog_O_o
21:22.22andre__magog_, so while trying to install via wifi is your N900 connected via usb?
21:23.34magog_yes
21:23.42andre__so try without.
21:24.24magog_now trying
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21:27.21magog_andre__:
21:27.23magog_ssh to developer@192.168.2.15 failed - exit
21:27.24magog_Creating runtime 'n900' with address '192.168.2.15' failed
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21:29.58andre__magog_, that is the output from "mad-admin" on your computer (not the n900), right?
21:30.44nomischem|st: seen my package link?
21:31.51magog_yes
21:32.00lcuknomis, is your package on -devel?
21:32.04andre__magog_, so the times that you tried before you did not get that "ssh to" output line, right?
21:32.11lcukhi andre__ \o
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21:32.17andre__heja lcuk
21:32.18lcukfollowed you back on twitter
21:32.30nomislcuk: no, this one: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/files/tvbgone_1.0.0-1_all.deb
21:32.32lcukI was sure you only used to use that account for testing last time I looked
21:32.41lcuknomis, is the source alongside that?
21:33.01nomislcuk: well it is python, so "yes".
21:33.08andre__lcuk, you remember correctly. :) however I think I set up to forward all postings from identi.ca to twitter
21:33.24magog_yes
21:33.32lcuknomis, ahhh did not realise :) good job sir!  I saw you post it the other night and wondered
21:33.35andre__magog_: according to the last output you try to connect as the user "developer". does that user exist on your n900?
21:33.45magog_when my device connected i haven't this in output
21:33.59andrei1089hello, i'm trying to play a video in a QML file, but i'm getting some strange errors, can anybody give me a hand ? here's the code and the output http://pastebin.com/R9wYu9F7
21:33.59andre__magog_, I assume you have to be the user root instead, but I can only guess. Never used MADDE myself
21:34.16nomislcuk: I have to check the actual timings sent. However, it should do the same as my c test program on the syscall level, so I don't expect relevant discrepancies.
21:35.08magog_andre__: i have user developer
21:38.29magog_andre__: and i connect with this user via ssh without password
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21:39.14andre__then I have no idea.
21:39.31magog_if this problem doesn't solve only sdk leave
21:43.27RST38hAssange described himself as a 'passionate, and often pig headed activist intellectual.' Assange said he was seeking a 'siren for [a] love affair, children and occasional criminal conspiracy' adding that he was 'directing a consuming, dangerous human rights project which is, as you might expect, male dominated' and added enigmatically: 'I am DANGER, ACHTUNG.'
21:43.47RST38hAchtung indeed...
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21:45.44ieatlinthaha..  yeah.. his okcupid profile is kinda creepy
21:46.16ieatlintand predates the conception of wikileaks, so he's speaking of something else there
21:46.24RST38hMost online dating profiles are either creepy or sad, so nothing unusual there
21:46.33pupnikhahah
21:46.40pupnikbut in that case true
21:47.00pupnikand he copied the richard james 'come to daddy' album cover for his pic too
21:47.08pupnikat least a little
21:47.16pupnik(gloriously offtopic)
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21:50.48MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, got meego on the eMMC :D
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22:29.18lardmannight
22:33.35trumeeis it possible to make the telepathy-sip client to go offline/online via cli?
22:33.52trumeeusing some dbus call.
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22:36.00trumeeok found out, mc-tool can do that.
22:36.12Venemotrumee: take it online/offline while monitoring dbus chatter
22:36.16Venemotrumee: nevermind then
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22:40.12trumeeiperf suggests that my bandwidth to the router is about 13mbps. is that reasonable?
22:41.26trumeeanybody measured their wifi speed?
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22:43.00trumeehmm. My joggler gives 34.8 mbps, in comparison N900 wifi is pretty shitty.
22:44.32SpeedEvilI get pretty close to 54M/2
22:44.56SpeedEvil(I don't have a ethernet connected router, so it's going both ways
22:45.53ShadowJKthat's more than what you're supposed to get?
22:46.11trumeeSpeedEvil, is that with Full power saving?
22:46.18ShadowJKthought you could get 54/2 max in payload for a single wireless client
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22:52.37SpeedEvilpower saving is irrelevant
22:52.49SpeedEvilit goes off when you're moving enough data
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22:59.29trumeeSpeedEvil, yes power-saving didn't make any difference to iperf reported bandwidth.
23:01.35trumeeSpeedEvil, what router are you running?
23:02.28SpeedEvildynamode something
23:02.38SpeedEvilDo you happen to have  package for iperf?
23:02.54SpeedEvilactually - nvm - won't wok
23:04.23trumeeSpeedEvil, there is one in devel repo.
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23:15.15trumeeSpeedEvil, Joggler vs N900, http://pastebin.com/NMd7ft0E
23:15.54SpeedEvilSure one isn't n?
23:16.19trumeenope.
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23:20.43trumeeSpeedEvil, sorry joggler is indeed 'n' device
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23:26.29comawhiteanyone know where I can find information on when the phone receives events like, someone is calling, etc?
23:26.55mikki-kuni think maemo uses dbus commands for that
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23:27.28mikki-kunbut i can't help you more than that, i am sorry, never been into dbus so much
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23:33.21user____hey guys, where browser caches flash video?
23:35.43user____or it's plugin
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23:39.54mikki-kuni think in ~/MyDocs/tmp/ :)
23:40.19mikki-kunthey are something like FlashR4nDoM
23:40.24mikki-kunthe flash-videos
23:41.26user____mikki-kun: haha thanks man!!!
23:41.36mikki-kunnp :)
23:42.00mikki-kuntryin to help as much as i can :)
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23:44.51mikki-kunuser____: but for flash-videos (if only youtube) i would definitly recommend to use cutetube
23:45.05mikki-kuni absolutely love it if i am only on my n900
23:45.26pupnikminitube is broken right now
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23:46.08user____mikki-kun: no, yt blocked in china
23:46.18mikki-kunyou're from china?
23:46.27user____mikki-kun: y
23:46.41mikki-kunmaybe it has proxy settings
23:46.55mikki-kunhm, sadly no :/
23:46.59mikki-kunjust checked
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23:47.25user____mikki-kun: no, i'm using tudou
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23:49.00mikki-kunuser____: maybe someone can rewrite cutetube for use in tudou :)
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23:52.19user____mikki-kun: i don see point, since i can grab from cache
23:53.19mikki-kunit grabs and downloads in either 240p, 360p, 480p or 720p :)
23:54.13mikki-kunso you watch and download at the same time
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23:57.20user____mikki-kun: sure, i try that gotta go class, i'm good to go now
23:58.22user____peace
23:59.37GeneralAntillesIt's temperatures like these when I'm thankful for a high TDP.
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