| 00:03.24 | WormFood | so, back to my original question....does anyone know what to do, after I replace my internal battery in my N800? It appears to be installed correctly, but still does not work right. Do I need to run some program or what? |
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| 00:08.49 | lcuk | WormFood, so the whole problem with device is related to power button itself? |
| 00:09.05 | lcuk | and you said you replaced a battery, not the normal one I gather? |
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| 00:10.12 | WormFood | no, not the power button...that is just a symptom |
| 00:10.18 | WormFood | the internal battery was dead |
| 00:11.17 | WormFood | I noticed that the N800 didn't work properly, so I investigated, and found the dead internal battery. |
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| 00:12.07 | WormFood | I insert the main battery, and it just powers on....no need to hit the power button. If I hit the power button after it is running, it reboots, unless I'm charging it |
| 00:12.17 | kerio | I HAS SUCCESS |
| 00:12.19 | kerio | unstuck the vibra |
| 00:13.16 | kerio | (ftr - "while true; do echo 255 > /sys/class/leds/t/brightness; sleep 1; done" did the trick) |
| 00:13.19 | WormFood | lcuk, it appears all "expensive" nokia products have an internal battery. I was working on my N85 the other day, and noticed it also has the same insanely small internal battery too |
| 00:14.25 | lcuk | i still do not see what battery has to do with powerbutton |
| 00:14.36 | Stskeeps | ah, rtc battery was dead? |
| 00:15.15 | Stskeeps | i'd recommend reflashing, personally |
| 00:16.01 | kerio | install ntpd |
| 00:16.19 | lcuk | i'd personally like to hear the problem |
| 00:16.36 | lcuk | before recommending a course of action |
| 00:17.15 | kerio | lcuk: installing ntpd is always a good thing to do regardless of problems |
| 00:17.16 | kerio | :) |
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| 00:19.22 | WormFood | Stskeeps, I'll try that again |
| 00:19.35 | WormFood | however, I don't see how reflashing will help |
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| 00:19.53 | WormFood | I'm thinking there is some internal memory or something that needs to be setup |
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| 00:31.17 | SpeedEvil | Haha. Someone just linked me to a website that 'could never work on a phone' - and it does. |
| 00:31.22 | SpeedEvil | Admittedly slowly. |
| 00:31.32 | kerio | what website? |
| 00:31.58 | SpeedEvil | www.myfreecams.com - not worksafe. |
| 00:32.22 | SpeedEvil | microb asks to kill the js a couple of times as it's slow. |
| 00:32.29 | lcuk | theres many not worksafe sites that work on devices |
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| 00:32.45 | lcuk | playboy has some yoga videos which are extremely informative |
| 00:33.06 | lcuk | and the site plays well and I can read all the rest of the articles :P |
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| 00:34.12 | SpeedEvil | The above is a site where you can donate to underpriviledged romanian girls apparantly. (as well as some in the west). |
| 00:34.26 | kerio | why are they underpriviledged? |
| 00:34.28 | kerio | they get donations! |
| 00:34.34 | kerio | nobody donates *me* money :( |
| 00:34.45 | SpeedEvil | They are underpriviledged as they don't have BMWs. |
| 00:34.56 | kerio | i don't have a bmw! |
| 00:35.02 | kerio | my father only has a mercedes |
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| 00:42.08 | SpeedEvil1 | fcam is variably awesome. |
| 00:42.33 | SpeedEvil | With flashlight on, you can still get clear pics right down to 7cm or so. |
| 00:42.35 | kerio | SpeedEvil: can you make it work with the power kernel? |
| 00:43.15 | SpeedEvil | Variably, as I seem to get vignetting on all pics now, and the normal camera dies. |
| 00:43.27 | SpeedEvil | I do not hav epower kernel installed. |
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| 04:33.23 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~botsnack |
| 04:33.23 | infobot | DocScrutinizer51: :) |
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| 04:36.56 | E0x_ | hello |
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| 04:38.23 | E0x_ | i am try get and print a value from gconf that are a list type , not sure how get print it , if the key was int i use get_init , if was String i use get_string; get_list exist but when i print it i get bad results |
| 04:38.27 | E0x_ | like: |
| 04:38.37 | E0x_ | (<GConfValue at 0x1bd1a0>, <GConfValue at 0x1bd1b0>, <GConfValue at 0x1bd1c0>, <GConfValue at 0x1bd1d0>) |
| 04:39.14 | E0x_ | this what i am doing: |
| 04:39.15 | E0x_ | >>> import gconf |
| 04:39.15 | E0x_ | >>> client = gconf.client_get_default() |
| 04:39.15 | E0x_ | >>> count = client.get('/apps/osso/hildon-desktop/views/active') |
| 04:39.15 | E0x_ | >>> print count.get_list |
| 04:39.51 | E0x_ | (python btw ) |
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| 05:08.07 | alterego | E0x: you're not doing anything wrong, that's exactly as it should look |
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| 05:08.58 | ds3 | hmmmm pose nor the other emu are updated for n900 |
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| 05:10.45 | E0x | alterego: hmm |
| 05:10.59 | E0x | alterego: check this |
| 05:11.02 | E0x | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.03 | E0x | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.04 | E0x | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.52 | alterego | E0x: it's printed a list of gconfvalue items, you need to call get_int on each element of that lisp |
| 05:11.58 | alterego | list .. |
| 05:12.14 | E0x | oh |
| 05:12.30 | E0x | alterego: sorry but not sure how do that |
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| 05:15.21 | alterego | E0x: print map(gconf.Value.get_int, count.get_list) |
| 05:18.22 | E0x | alterego: perfect , thx |
| 05:21.03 | alterego | np |
| 05:22.59 | frals | X-Fade: autobuilder seems to not import packages automatically |
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| 06:04.16 | arcol | hi |
| 06:04.31 | arcol | flashing the eMMC image is done with the same command line option? |
| 06:05.01 | arcol | sudo flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R |
| 06:06.13 | arcol | ehh rtfm |
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| 06:29.20 | arcol | hmm |
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| 06:38.35 | ColdFyre | i mad ea blank script in event.d that won't let the n900 boot now, is there a partial image i can flash? |
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| 06:41.58 | chadi | My phone does not auto-rotate anymore :/ example: pictures, blubbels, mappero (or anything that rotates) -- how can I find what's blocking it? |
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| 06:47.30 | spinningcompass | ColdFyre: You can flash it & return it to factory standard, but I don't think you can partially flash it. |
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| 06:48.01 | chadi | I don't want to flash it .. :/ |
| 06:49.18 | spinningcompass | When you said, "Is there a partial image I can flash," I thought you meant, "Can I partially flash my device?" |
| 06:49.45 | spinningcompass | chadi: Are you talking to me? I was talking to ColdFyre |
| 06:49.46 | chadi | that was not me :P |
| 06:50.00 | spinningcompass | chadi: That's why my comment began with "ColdFyre:". :) |
| 06:50.07 | chadi | I thought you mis-autocompleted my name :P |
| 06:50.52 | spinningcompass | OK. ColdFyre had a question. It read, "i mad ea blank member:script in event.d that won't let the n900 boot now, is there a partial image i can flash?" |
| 06:51.10 | chadi-afk | okay :) |
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| 07:20.33 | xxtjaxx | Hi everyone first time user of a maemo device. I send some oggs over to it and had ogg-vorbis-support installed already |
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| 07:21.56 | xxtjaxx | but videos (ogv) works. ogg not any idea why and how to get it working? |
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| 07:32.01 | kulve | xxtjaxx: read the bug #9498 through, there's a list of things to try out |
| 07:32.03 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9498 Media Player won't recognize ogg files as media |
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| 07:39.55 | Scifi | Hi, I am trying to find instructions on how to display a dialog to user during/after package installation. I saw the guide somewhere but can't find it now. Can anyone help? |
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| 08:04.47 | chadi-afk | My phone does not auto-rotate anymore :/ examples: pictures, blubbels, mappero (or anything that rotates) -- how can I find what's blocking it? |
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| 08:08.41 | arcol | is somebody have successfully enabled subtitles? |
| 08:08.55 | arcol | I have installed it, but dunno how Im supposed to enable it |
| 08:13.29 | _llll_ | chadi-afk: it forgets every now and then (or after a reboot), just do the sym+tr a few times until it works again |
| 08:14.22 | chadi-afk | you mean sym+t+r ? |
| 08:14.50 | _llll_ | i mean sym+r |
| 08:15.22 | chadi-afk | sym or ctrl? |
| 08:15.35 | _llll_ | oh, yeah that too |
| 08:15.45 | _llll_ | sym+ctrl+r |
| 08:15.52 | chadi-afk | I know the ctrl+shift+r trick |
| 08:16.01 | chadi-afk | but it totates the whole UI |
| 08:16.09 | _llll_ | oh, isnt that what you're doing? |
| 08:16.14 | _llll_ | never mind then |
| 08:16.28 | chadi-afk | when in a picture in full screen, it should rotate according to the accelerometer position |
| 08:16.54 | chadi-afk | without any ctrl+shift+r |
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| 08:20.44 | chadi-afk | is it a broken accelerometer? |
| 08:25.41 | kerio | i need to redistribute my symbols |
| 08:26.25 | kerio | also i'd like to know if there's a 'none' key that you can set, so you can disable a keymap that's enabled on a base layout |
| 08:26.36 | kerio | so i can just make my own 'it' layout |
| 08:26.44 | kerio | without touching the rest |
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| 08:29.56 | MOUD | Hey all |
| 08:30.51 | MOUD | is "Tweak Flash plugin version" safe to install? |
| 08:34.04 | Duckboot | MOUD: probably |
| 08:36.23 | MOUD | Duckboot: There are many flash sites that requires you to log in, and I don't want others to steal information. That's why I am asking. |
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| 08:37.49 | Duckboot | MOUD: Oh - Well - just apt-get source it, and check yourself. |
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| 10:04.31 | Khiraly | is it somebody aware of any application displaying the current download/upload speed? |
| 10:04.59 | Khiraly | Im using netspeed applet on ubuntu box |
| 10:05.09 | Khiraly | something similar would be great on the n900 |
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| 10:12.45 | TermanaN900 | yello |
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| 10:24.24 | pigeon | conky can show the net up/down speed, though of course it's not as handy as an applet/widget. |
| 10:25.15 | pigeon | i was thinking of putting one together using the desktop command widget actually. |
| 10:25.21 | jacekowski | hmmmm, |
| 10:25.44 | jacekowski | do you remember that fcc thing that requires for mobile phone to be "instantly" located by emergency services |
| 10:26.13 | jacekowski | that could explain why rapuyama has all agps code inside |
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| 10:26.38 | jacekowski | so it can alone locate and send that information somewhere |
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| 10:27.11 | MrPingouin | hello world |
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| 10:28.53 | MrPingouin | hmmm, I have installed the extra-devel repository, but I can't see footify in the package list (I've updated the list, well, it's done automatically though), does anyone have an idea ? |
| 10:29.01 | kerio | is the same code replicated in maemo? |
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| 10:29.19 | MrPingouin | ? |
| 10:29.39 | MrPingouin | kerio: "you're talking to me ?" ? :) |
| 10:30.08 | kerio | no |
| 10:30.14 | kerio | to jacekowski |
| 10:30.19 | MrPingouin | :) |
| 10:31.56 | DocScrutinizer | chadi-afk: remove battery |
| 10:32.39 | MrPingouin | hmmm, there's a log of the chan, cool I'll browse it |
| 10:32.47 | jacekowski | kerio: parts of it |
| 10:32.48 | kerio | jacekowski: can rapuyama actually do that, though? |
| 10:32.48 | kerio | i mean, is that code reached? |
| 10:33.06 | jacekowski | well, there are refferences to it so i suppose it can be reached |
| 10:33.18 | kerio | do we have the source of the rapuyama code? |
| 10:33.22 | jacekowski | i don't have any way of running that code on real hardware |
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| 10:33.32 | jacekowski | nope |
| 10:33.37 | DocScrutinizer | chadi-afk: http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_accelerometer#Bugs |
| 10:33.52 | jacekowski | but that would be only use for it |
| 10:34.05 | jacekowski | unless it's some left over code when they stripped it down for use in n900 |
| 10:34.14 | jacekowski | because normally rapuyama runs whole phone |
| 10:37.45 | MrPingouin | my mistake, I added extras not extra-devel |
| 10:38.35 | kerio | I think rapuyama is a cool guy. Eh runs whole phones and doesn't afraid of anything. |
| 10:38.57 | MiXu- | ~curse asus |
| 10:38.58 | infobot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, asus ! |
| 10:39.18 | MiXu- | Apparently my mobo doesn't support wake-on-lan |
| 10:39.35 | kerio | jacekowski: i'll give you 10 internets if you manage to actually run everything on rapuyama, for massive battery saving |
| 10:39.42 | MiXu- | Either that or I'm just doing-it-wrong. |
| 10:40.05 | jacekowski | kerio: rapuyama is just an arm core |
| 10:40.18 | jacekowski | well |
| 10:40.22 | jacekowski | rapu is an arm core |
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| 10:40.28 | kerio | why don't we use it then? |
| 10:40.33 | jacekowski | yama is doing modem stuff |
| 10:41.02 | jacekowski | because it can tear a hole in fabric of the universe |
| 10:41.13 | kerio | jacekowski: make an easy to install dumbphone bootmenu entry that runs exclusively on rapu |
| 10:41.27 | jacekowski | there are couple problems |
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| 10:41.45 | jacekowski | M-shield being the first one |
| 10:41.55 | DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: I thought your idea about GPS and GSM was commonly accepted knowledge |
| 10:41.56 | jacekowski | 2nd, rapuyama doesn't have access to lcd |
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| 10:42.36 | jacekowski | 3rd no access to keyboard |
| 10:42.59 | DocScrutinizer | reasons why there's no SAT support? |
| 10:43.01 | kerio | jacekowski: that's why you run a tiiny code on the cortex |
| 10:43.03 | DocScrutinizer | or what? |
| 10:43.17 | jacekowski | kerio: well, it has to still run |
| 10:43.22 | chadi-afk | DocScrutinizer: ty, will see that link |
| 10:43.29 | jacekowski | kerio: so it uses power |
| 10:43.35 | kerio | 125mhz |
| 10:43.45 | kerio | no backlit |
| 10:43.53 | jacekowski | no savings at all |
| 10:44.02 | kerio | go pure transreflective |
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| 10:44.38 | kerio | aw :( |
| 10:45.03 | korhojoa | :D |
| 10:45.12 | korhojoa | 'transreflective' is pretty much useless in darkness |
| 10:45.18 | kerio | ok, *really*dumbphone - receive only |
| 10:45.36 | korhojoa | so what, rings for 5 seconds then auto-answers? |
| 10:45.50 | jacekowski | main processor still has to run |
| 10:46.01 | jacekowski | evertyhing that goes to rapuyama is processed by it |
| 10:46.09 | kerio | jacekowski: enable 125mhz plus that smart thing that's unstable |
| 10:46.19 | DocScrutinizer | BS |
| 10:46.34 | korhojoa | smartreflex? |
| 10:46.37 | korhojoa | that's a piece of shit |
| 10:46.52 | DocScrutinizer | no |
| 10:47.03 | korhojoa | ´let me rephrase that. it's useless for 60% of people |
| 10:47.09 | kerio | korhojoa: hey, we don't have to run anything on it :D |
| 10:47.21 | DocScrutinizer | it's a fsckd up design of the regulator to SoC wiring |
| 10:47.32 | korhojoa | with smartreflex it might even be able to screw up a nop |
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| 10:48.01 | korhojoa | nop is suddenly jmp and whoa it resets! |
| 10:48.06 | DocScrutinizer | sure, as the regs may not change voltage fast enough for CPU clock freq transitions |
| 10:48.45 | kerio | korhojoa: woah, that's something |
| 10:49.17 | korhojoa | tbh, smartreflex usually works fine for me for a day |
| 10:49.24 | korhojoa | then it starts doing funky things and in the end resets |
| 10:49.39 | kerio | but does it save power before that? |
| 10:49.43 | DocScrutinizer | but please stop that nonsense. It's BS to run something on Rapuyama for "bat savings" and then lok SoC CPU to 125 and permanent on to make it happen :-/ |
| 10:49.58 | korhojoa | kerio: not really. |
| 10:50.02 | kerio | k, will do |
| 10:50.10 | DocScrutinizer | 1) we can't do that (run anything on rapu) |
| 10:50.12 | RST38h | does not understand a word of what Doc is saying |
| 10:50.14 | jacekowski | well, only thing that would make sence is to run dumb os on main processor |
| 10:50.20 | DocScrutinizer | 2) it won't save anything |
| 10:50.28 | korhojoa | dumb os! dumb os! |
| 10:50.36 | jacekowski | and design in a way that main processor only would wake up on incoming call |
| 10:50.37 | TermanaN900 | RST38h, does not fempute? |
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| 10:50.53 | jacekowski | and that's something that's possible |
| 10:50.54 | RST38h | something like that |
| 10:51.03 | korhojoa | three buttons: "call/answer" "turn off" "?????" |
| 10:51.06 | RST38h | although rapuyama sounds japanese |
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| 10:51.25 | korhojoa | rapu is a finnish word for crab |
| 10:51.33 | kerio | korhojoa: use the camera lid |
| 10:51.42 | korhojoa | ah. even better |
| 10:51.55 | RST38h | ok, now it sounds like some perverted Japanese sex practice involving Finnish crabs. |
| 10:51.58 | korhojoa | :D |
| 10:52.26 | chadi-afk | DocScrutinizer: amazing, it worked, ty very much!! |
| 10:52.28 | RST38h | As to power saving, simply use i8051 or a similar CPU to run your whole phone on. |
| 10:52.33 | DocScrutinizer | yw |
| 10:52.42 | chadi-afk | I was gonna reflash |
| 10:52.44 | chadi-afk | lol |
| 10:53.00 | RST38h | would suggest dumb logic but it would be unrealistic |
| 10:53.07 | korhojoa | power saving: switch to a dumbphone. add a external lipo battery and you'll have a phone that lasts forever on battery |
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| 10:55.29 | kerio | korhojoa: but... single device! |
| 10:55.54 | korhojoa | well. put them in a big black box |
| 10:55.55 | RST38h | single dumb device, what would you need a smart device for |
| 10:56.05 | korhojoa | then they'll be a single dumb device |
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| 10:59.33 | arcol | hmm |
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| 11:17.05 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: (not a word) of my notes about smartreflex? or the line about general uselessness of idea to run user progs on rapu? |
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| 11:20.29 | DocScrutinizer | btw to maximize standby time: switch off all unsolicited msgs from Rapuyama, then got to suspend-to-ram on SoC ->300h standby |
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| 11:20.46 | SpeedEvil | Yeah - I have done that, it works well. |
| 11:20.57 | SpeedEvil | But I haven't worked out how to actually switch off unsols. |
| 11:21.09 | SpeedEvil | it wakes up on every signal change - which makes it useless |
| 11:21.26 | DocScrutinizer | nods |
| 11:25.31 | RST38h | SmartReflex will not work. |
| 11:25.47 | DocScrutinizer | SmartReflex will always work |
| 11:25.49 | RST38h | forget it, there is a manufacturing flaw |
| 11:26.11 | DocScrutinizer | SR is a couple of measures |
| 11:26.32 | RST38h | the one disabled will not work if enabled. |
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| 11:26.35 | slonopotamus | DocScrutinizer, measures can be flawed :) |
| 11:26.37 | DocScrutinizer | what you're talking bout is just automatic dynamic adjustment of core voltage |
| 11:26.43 | RST38h | yes |
| 11:27.04 | DocScrutinizer | slonopotamus: thanks, cpt obvious! |
| 11:27.28 | slonopotamus | DocScrutinizer, yw |
| 11:27.33 | DocScrutinizer | [2010-08-07 12:48:05] <DocScrutinizer> sure, as the regs may not change voltage fast enough for CPU clock freq transitions |
| 11:30.32 | DocScrutinizer | so basically SmartReflex for GAIA (aka dynamic core voltage) is transiently doing same bad thing to the system that those idiotic ULV settings suggested by OC fanboys do permanently |
| 11:31.59 | RST38h | their idiotic ulv settings appear to work |
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| 11:32.14 | RST38h | the dynamic core voltage changes do not |
| 11:32.26 | DocScrutinizer | as does that SR sysnode setting :-P |
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| 11:33.20 | RST38h | "Sherlock" is pretty good, except that I can't avoid thinking of DrWho playing Holmes there. |
| 11:33.42 | RST38h | Looks like Dr Who. Talks like Dr Who. Behaves like Dr Who. |
| 11:33.57 | BCMM | i thought that! |
| 11:34.11 | BCMM | a traditional slightly mad/absent-minded one |
| 11:34.22 | BCMM | (and sherlock holmes really shouldn't be absent-minded) |
| 11:34.25 | RST38h | Same guy writing scripts for both shows |
| 11:34.28 | BCMM | ah |
| 11:34.51 | BCMM | i've only seen a tiny bit of sherlock, and noticed it |
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| 11:36.21 | BCMM | RST38h: also, this being teh internet, i am forced to remind you that he is known simply as "The Doctor", not as "Dr Who" |
| 11:37.39 | DocScrutinizer | Dr W. who cares. Who -Watson |
| 11:38.15 | DocScrutinizer | except you said he's playing Holmes |
| 11:38.45 | BCMM | heh, not-english people |
| 11:38.55 | BCMM | and their failure to realise that life is mostly about dr. who |
| 11:39.04 | RST38h | Ah, another wikipedian. |
| 11:40.00 | DocScrutinizer | probably watson and holmes confused their roles and storybooks |
| 11:40.11 | RST38h | But yes, DrWho miraculously manages to be completely unrelated to the real world, while being relevant |
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| 11:40.33 | RST38h | More or less like that Kindzadza movie |
| 11:40.34 | jacekowski | Torchwood is good one as well |
| 11:40.52 | jacekowski | british scifi series are one of the best |
| 11:40.59 | DocScrutinizer | blaergh no more milk -> no cafe latte |
| 11:41.03 | DocScrutinizer | afk |
| 11:41.51 | jacekowski | sg-1 is a good one as well |
| 11:41.59 | RST38h | sighs |
| 11:42.32 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: safe your breath, you'll need it |
| 11:42.40 | RST38h | Stargate SG-1 (often abbreviated as SG-1) is a Canadian-American military science fiction television series |
| 11:43.02 | RST38h | heeds Doc's advice and quotes wiki instead |
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| 11:52.28 | DocScrutinizer | notes that in recent US SF, all contact from earth to alien entities always is governed by US military. This parallels their external politics on earth |
| 11:52.55 | SpeedEvil | ponders. |
| 11:54.18 | RST38h | Always has been |
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| 11:54.28 | DocScrutinizer | ...imperialism |
| 11:54.44 | RST38h | Just consider StarTrek and what it tells us about the political system of the "Federation" |
| 11:54.59 | jacekowski | DocScrutinizer: well, in doctor who it's done by the doctor |
| 11:55.17 | DocScrutinizer | is DrWho a US SF? |
| 11:55.59 | RST38h | BTW, now, when I am thinking about it, that "Federation" is pretty creepy |
| 11:57.14 | RST38h | Conrolled by the Earth military, "protecting" multiple other species, no money mentioned anywhere, food and transporter "credits" apparently rationed by the government |
| 11:57.36 | jacekowski | DocScrutinizer: it's british |
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| 11:57.43 | RST38h | And the Starfleet apparently being the only large enough employer |
| 11:57.50 | DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: see? |
| 12:00.46 | SpeedEvil | Not quite. |
| 12:01.06 | SpeedEvil | Back in the 60s, a moderate fraction of US SF output assumed some sort of UN-based body |
| 12:01.10 | ShadowJK | only vaguely remembers "credits" present on resource-starved voyager and perhaps ds9 that had non-federation comercial activities |
| 12:01.24 | RST38h | SpeedEvil: Directed by the US, of course |
| 12:01.46 | RST38h | ShadowJK: The also figure in the Next Generation |
| 12:01.59 | RST38h | ShadowJK: As in "XXX is out of his transporter credits" |
| 12:02.21 | RST38h | ShadowJK: In DS9, the aliens are using money all right |
| 12:03.14 | SpeedEvil | is rewatching Babylon 5. |
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| 12:03.57 | RST38h | considers rewatching Firefly |
| 12:04.28 | ShadowJK | Where did all the good scifi go :/ |
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| 12:04.50 | lcuk | alpha uadrant |
| 12:04.52 | lcuk | aq^ |
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| 12:05.08 | lcuk | they took my typing skills too |
| 12:05.10 | ShadowJK | should finish Blake's 5 someday |
| 12:05.21 | lcuk | blakes 7 wasnt it? |
| 12:05.46 | ShadowJK | didn't a few die off |
| 12:05.48 | ShadowJK | ;) |
| 12:06.01 | RST38h | ShadowJK: Do check out "Sherlock" |
| 12:06.14 | RST38h | ShadowJK: Two episodes are out, you know where to get them |
| 12:06.29 | lcuk | i read a lot of scifi |
| 12:06.48 | lcuk | some things dont work as tv shows/movies |
| 12:06.48 | ShadowJK | not so sure, haven't had a suitable setup since 2005 or so :) |
| 12:06.54 | ShadowJK | yeah |
| 12:07.23 | ShadowJK | or then will smith comes and rapes it |
| 12:07.38 | RST38h | ShadowJK: N900 can both download and play it for you :) |
| 12:08.25 | ShadowJK | It's 2010, why is there no working, easy, legal way :) |
| 12:08.35 | Stskeeps | ssh to the US, use hulu |
| 12:08.36 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 12:08.47 | RST38h | That is neither working nor easy |
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| 12:09.05 | ShadowJK | :) |
| 12:09.06 | Stskeeps | WORKSFORME |
| 12:09.31 | ShadowJK | Ineed to move my server then |
| 12:09.32 | RST38h | How have you got your Hulu account from outside of the US, btw? ;) |
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| 12:09.41 | ShadowJK | it's in amsterdam now |
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| 12:09.49 | RST38h | ah |
| 12:09.50 | Stskeeps | RST38h: don't have one |
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| 12:10.09 | ShadowJK | RST38h, maybe you need some cc fraud and identity theft too |
| 12:10.30 | RST38h | would like to avoid these, if possible |
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| 12:11.32 | kerio | Stskeeps: bug trackers should really get that "works on my machine(c)" logo for WORKSFORME bugs |
| 12:12.26 | Muelli | http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2010/08/07/n900-349-from-dell-small-business-until-monday/ \o/ |
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| 12:15.25 | LjL | i see a lot of auctioned N900s that look like this http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300453454959 i.e. having that dark screen cover with always a white label on the bottom left and the thingy on the top right. is this what a *genuine* N900 looks like when new? (as opposed to the chinese clones i'm aware of) |
| 12:16.52 | RST38h | Yes, it looks geniune |
| 12:16.58 | RST38h | Which, of course, may not mean a thing |
| 12:21.38 | kerio | Stskeeps: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/03/the-works-on-my-machine-certification-program.html |
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| 12:27.16 | BCMM | LjL: that's a protective film to stop it getting scratched before it's sold, the bit on the left is a 2d barcode, for stock control or something, the thing on the right is the tab you use to pull the protective film off |
| 12:27.58 | LjL | yep. i was merely wondering whether it was typical of the real things, or of imitations |
| 12:28.09 | BCMM | LjL: also, the specs claim it's the real thing |
| 12:28.23 | BCMM | so you would certainly be able to dispute it if it was not |
| 12:28.45 | BCMM | and that's the best you're gonna get, because they could always have a picture of an n900 and post you a dead pidgeon |
| 12:29.09 | BCMM | the ones to watch out for are the very vaguely described ones |
| 12:29.36 | BCMM | n900 (no mention of nokia) mobile phone, has a keyboard, has applications |
| 12:30.17 | RST38h | dead pidgeons have applications too |
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| 12:31.14 | RST38h | is autobuilder dead again? |
| 12:34.52 | lcuk | LjL, it is not unknown for people to attempt to use the device with that protective cover on ;) |
| 12:35.28 | kerio | dead pidgeons are awesome |
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| 12:37.10 | SpeedEvil | kerio: If you're interested, I have several dead rats you could purchase. |
| 12:37.19 | kerio | not a fan of those |
| 12:37.33 | SpeedEvil | I could glue a paper aeroplane to them? |
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| 12:38.52 | crashanddie | LjL: they're lying though |
| 12:38.53 | RST38h | We will murder them all |
| 12:38.58 | RST38h | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:39.02 | RST38h | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:39.09 | crashanddie | LjL: there's no java native to the N900 |
| 12:39.11 | RST38h | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:39.29 | crashanddie | LjL: and MMS is only supported through a third party app |
| 12:39.40 | lcuk | screw the java, its the amoled |
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| 12:40.07 | LjL | crashanddie: oh right when the auction claims java and mms it's usually a chinese ripoff (i didn't really look at that auction closely, just picked a random one that had the screen cover) |
| 12:40.12 | RST38h | lcuk: you mean, capacitive touchscreens are no longer a "requirement"? |
| 12:40.19 | LjL | lcuk: can you use a resisitive screen with that stuff on? |
| 12:40.32 | crashanddie | LjL: yes |
| 12:40.48 | crashanddie | LjL: though, the screen cover is just how it comes out of the box, IIRC |
| 12:40.50 | lcuk | LjL, sure, thats the normal thing of a protective cover |
| 12:41.43 | SpeedEvil | nom nom nom. |
| 12:42.03 | SpeedEvil | breakfasts on flapjacks crumbled in milk, with puree'd goosebery on top. |
| 12:42.28 | SpeedEvil | (and yes, in an ideal world, I'd be doing this before 1:42PM) |
| 12:44.01 | LjL | also please don't take it as flaming, but i've got a capacitive touchscreen phone and various people have told me the N900's touchscreen is much worse in comparison. how do you find it, especially those of you who've tried both? do you have to press harder, and is there any jittering? |
| 12:44.18 | lcuk | is xcode an open language? |
| 12:44.25 | lcuk | is there a compiler for linux? |
| 12:44.38 | kerio | LjL: the n900's resistive touchscreen is awesome |
| 12:44.45 | SpeedEvil | LjL: there is a press required to activate the screen yes. This is several grams thouhg. |
| 12:44.49 | SpeedEvil | Actually - hangon - brb |
| 12:45.35 | LjL | will it work if you gently use your nail on it? that's the way i use older resistive screens (from PDAs) |
| 12:45.44 | lcuk | LjL, capacitive is merely different |
| 12:45.50 | lcuk | i use my n900 screen with finger pad |
| 12:46.24 | kerio | your finger is enough |
| 12:46.31 | kerio | and most of the things are finger-friendly |
| 12:46.37 | LjL | but my nail is much more precise than my finger |
| 12:46.43 | lcuk | sure and that works too |
| 12:47.52 | SpeedEvil | The touchscreen activation force - with a screen protector - is 8-10g or so. |
| 12:48.02 | LjL | someone here (or in #meego) yesterday was saying something about pressure sensitivity, is there actually that? |
| 12:48.55 | LjL | SpeedEvil: thanks that's interesting information. i don't have a balance now to check what that feels like, but i will later |
| 12:49.07 | lcuk | LjL, the N900 does indeed have pressure sensitivity |
| 12:49.27 | LjL | i suppose maybe things like "kinetic" scrolling might be a bit less natural if you have to press the screen |
| 12:49.54 | RST38h | lcuk: it does not really |
| 12:50.03 | SpeedEvil | LjL: Perhaps half that. |
| 12:50.04 | RST38h | lcuk: you cannot rely on the pressure reading at all |
| 12:50.15 | lcuk | sigh |
| 12:50.16 | SpeedEvil | LjL: perhaps half that with no screen protector |
| 12:50.20 | lcuk | same as I cant for a pencil |
| 12:50.27 | lcuk | its enough to use for pressure sensitive drawing |
| 12:50.31 | RST38h | lcuk: with a pencil, you can |
| 12:50.41 | SpeedEvil | LjL: 10g is about the weight of a short pencil |
| 12:50.44 | lcuk | until pencil goes on the wonk |
| 12:50.51 | RST38h | lcuk: with n900, you can't do much pressure sensitive drawing, it detects pressure randomly |
| 12:51.08 | lcuk | RST38h, it works quite well whenever I have messed |
| 12:51.23 | lcuk | certainly not milspec but good enough for playing |
| 12:51.24 | RST38h | lcuk: does not work for me and I tried |
| 12:51.29 | crashanddie | LjL: there is a bit of jittering, but the comfort of being able to use anything to use the screen is a livesaver |
| 12:51.46 | RST38h | lcuk: it does return a reading, but it appears to be random |
| 12:51.48 | crashanddie | LjL: especially if you do a bit of outdoor sports, as soon as you wear gloves, no iPhone for you... |
| 12:51.53 | SpeedEvil | ponders if anyone has died due to being unable to use a capacitive touchscreen. |
| 12:52.00 | crashanddie | RST38h: the artists don't really agree with you |
| 12:52.03 | lcuk | RST38h, nahh its also depending on how much of an effect you put on it |
| 12:52.05 | RST38h | crash: you have still got your nose! |
| 12:52.11 | LjL | crashanddie: heh true. is the jittered mitigated anyhow by software? like, when scrolling things, i can imagine the jitter being quite annoying |
| 12:52.15 | lcuk | it worked for me to show leadin/leadout color fade on strokes |
| 12:52.22 | crashanddie | LjL: no, scrolling is fine |
| 12:52.39 | crashanddie | LjL: scrolling is usually one swift movement, so no problem there |
| 12:52.48 | lcuk | NO FROZEN SAUSAGES HERE |
| 12:53.07 | SpeedEvil | LjL: Jitter is basically a problem for some software-writers. I have never seen an issue in real life with any software. |
| 12:53.25 | LjL | crashanddie: well it depends, often i will pause at some point during the scrolling to see if i've reached the point i wanted, and then continue scrolling |
| 12:53.28 | LjL | software-writers? |
| 12:53.38 | RST38h | suspects the penis will work just as well on the iPhone |
| 12:54.08 | SpeedEvil | has never used his penis as a pointer. |
| 12:54.12 | RST38h | Surely, someone has tested that already, more than once, given iPhone users intimate relationship with their fetish |
| 12:54.14 | SpeedEvil | Nose, yes. Penis no. |
| 12:54.53 | lcuk | LjL, i find NO issues with kinetics on resistive |
| 12:55.01 | lcuk | never did on 8x0, never do on n900 |
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| 12:55.40 | crashanddie | LjL: yeah, that works fine |
| 12:55.41 | phrearch | morning |
| 12:55.54 | lcuk | what cpu/chipsets do the htc phones use? |
| 12:55.54 | crashanddie | LjL: basically, the algorithms easily implement scrolling, and subsequent stopping in the scrolling |
| 12:55.56 | lcuk | are they arm? |
| 12:56.05 | phrearch | i have a n900 and was wondering why the gps is soo inprecise. does it require a data isp to work properly? |
| 12:56.11 | crashanddie | LjL: check out lcuk's picture scrolling videos in liqbase -- it shows proper algorithms |
| 12:56.44 | kerio | phrearch: imprecise? |
| 12:56.46 | kerio | slow to fix maybe |
| 12:56.48 | kerio | but not imprecise |
| 12:56.56 | SpeedEvil | phrearch: what do you mean imprecise? |
| 12:57.02 | LjL | i must say i don't particularly like capacitive so far, it feels good not having to exercise any pressure at all and not getting any jitter, but the good feeling stops when you have to hit something a bit small (and there's bound to be such things, like links in a zoomed-out webpage, or selecting text) |
| 12:57.08 | kerio | and yeah, without a registered sim *and* a data connection the gps fix will be slow as fuck |
| 12:57.13 | crashanddie | LjL: and then there's fail algorithms, for example in the nokia desktop switching, but it's really just because I'm nitpicky (basically, the transition from one desktop to the next takes over as soon as you let go of the click, and if you try to "catch" it again (by clicking again), it will just keep the transition going |
| 12:57.16 | phrearch | well, according to ovi maps, im in amsterdam while im in groningen |
| 12:57.18 | SpeedEvil | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_GPS |
| 12:57.22 | phrearch | thats like 150 km |
| 12:57.36 | kerio | phrearch: that's not the gps ._. |
| 12:57.37 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:57.41 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 12:57.43 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 12:57.49 | kerio | wait for the gps |
| 12:57.54 | SpeedEvil | that's 'centre of country' location. |
| 12:58.09 | lcuk | LjL, for good example of kinetics ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjDEvXueO0I |
| 12:58.11 | kerio | (that's something that Maps should get from the iphone - a circle that shows the precision of the current position) |
| 12:58.14 | SpeedEvil | Which uses the mobile phone SIMs country, and assumes you're in the centre. |
| 12:58.17 | phrearch | err, when i click on the my position its at least 200m away |
| 12:58.24 | LjL | lcuk: thanks but can't load youtube, i'm on GPRS ;) |
| 12:58.26 | crashanddie | LjL: well, I really like Opera as a browser on the N900, much more than the built-in browser. The zooming is a bit of a pain in MicroB, so the fact that Opera automagically formats text to the width of the screen (without killing the CSS), and automatically zooms on first click is a godsend |
| 12:58.28 | lcuk | crashanddie, oi! desktop switching works nicely |
| 12:58.45 | SpeedEvil | phrearch: Click on the statusbar. Now - does the GPS section say 'fine resolution' ? |
| 12:58.46 | crashanddie | lcuk: "throw" one desktop to the next, and during the transition, try to click it again |
| 12:58.52 | lcuk | crashanddie, sure |
| 12:59.03 | crashanddie | lcuk: I expected the transition to stop, and you to be able to move it nicely, but it doesn't |
| 12:59.06 | kerio | SpeedEvil: can't click the statusbar on Maps |
| 12:59.08 | SpeedEvil | phrearch: if not - it's usinc cell-positioning |
| 12:59.14 | crashanddie | lcuk: other than that it's fine (as I said, I'm just being nitpicky) |
| 12:59.18 | SpeedEvil | hmm. |
| 12:59.18 | LjL | crashanddie: Opera and Opera Mini are good (on the platforms i've tried them on, anyway). but i was planning to buy the N900 in order to have an as-open-source-as-possible phone, so i'd probably not install Opera |
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| 12:59.24 | SpeedEvil | I've not really used maps. |
| 12:59.39 | phrearch | SpeedEvil: checking |
| 12:59.47 | SpeedEvil | LjL: I have chromium, opera, lynx, fennec installed. |
| 12:59.51 | crashanddie | LjL: wait for a MeeGo phone then :P |
| 12:59.59 | SpeedEvil | LjL: oh - and iceweasel |
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| 13:00.17 | SpeedEvil | LjL: and the stock browser of course. |
| 13:00.19 | LjL | crashanddie: well, i'm a cheapskate though :P so my idea is to get an N900 when/if MeeGo is running fully on it |
| 13:00.30 | phrearch | left-top? |
| 13:00.39 | LjL | but meanwhile i'd like to get myself informed :) |
| 13:00.46 | crashanddie | LjL: well, I really enjoy opera's speed, and the lack of flash, which really helps in navigation on a low-power mobile device |
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| 13:00.51 | SpeedEvil | phrearch: I'm unsure actually - maps is wierd, and breaks the API |
| 13:01.02 | LjL | crashanddie: no question there, it's good |
| 13:01.16 | lcuk | RT: @lcuk Any #nokia #maemo #meego people in Helsinki at the moment, get to http://www.assembly.org/summer10/ and watch out for some decent ARM tricks |
| 13:01.21 | phrearch | i clicked again, and now its like 50m off |
| 13:01.32 | SpeedEvil | crashanddie: I was amused to find someones link 'this could never work on a phone' - did. http://www.myfreecams.com/ - not worksafe. |
| 13:01.33 | crashanddie | LjL: also, opera is the only software that includes a good portrait-view on-screen keyboard |
| 13:01.51 | SpeedEvil | phrearch: switch to another app, now you can see the statusbar. |
| 13:02.02 | LjL | uhm wait, maemo/meego don't have an onscreen keyboard? |
| 13:02.04 | SpeedEvil | phrearch: see if it says 'fine position' when you click it |
| 13:02.09 | SpeedEvil | LjL: it can be turned off |
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| 13:02.25 | LjL | ah but they do have it. was fearing there was none at all unless software provided it :P |
| 13:02.53 | SpeedEvil | phrearch: s/API/UX/ |
| 13:02.55 | phrearch | aha |
| 13:03.03 | phrearch | no, it was coarse |
| 13:03.18 | phrearch | it is coars |
| 13:03.25 | SpeedEvil | phrearch: that usually means it can't pick up sat signals for some reason - if it's been on for > a couple of mins. |
| 13:03.39 | SpeedEvil | phrearch: Are you indoors? |
| 13:03.52 | phrearch | SpeedEvil, yea, ill check outside |
| 13:04.01 | phrearch | thanks :) |
| 13:04.49 | SpeedEvil | once it's had a position recently, it's lots more sensitive, even if you go indoors it will often keep lock |
| 13:05.44 | LjL | one other thing i want to know about maemo and especially meego (and i guess i shouldn't ask here, but i didn't get a reply there :P) is - where do i find software? the obvious googles don't give much of anything at all. is there just very little 3rd party software around, or what? |
| 13:06.31 | lcuk | http://maemo.org/downloads/Maemo5/ |
| 13:06.37 | kerio | the googles, they do nothing! |
| 13:06.41 | phrearch | cool thanks, that was much much better |
| 13:06.43 | SpeedEvil | LjL: http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras |
| 13:06.55 | SpeedEvil | There is regrettably little third party commercial software. |
| 13:07.15 | phrearch | i just need a 3g data connection for outdoors |
| 13:07.15 | SpeedEvil | While you maybe can't count the apps on the fingers of one hand, I suspect you may make it on 2. |
| 13:07.41 | kerio | phrearch: you *can* get a proper gps fix with no cell network and no internet |
| 13:07.46 | kerio | but it will be *slooooooooooooooooow* |
| 13:08.01 | kerio | with both, i usually get a precise signal in less than 10 seconds |
| 13:08.03 | phrearch | kerio: does it need the data for the sattellite info? |
| 13:08.19 | phrearch | like where its orbiting |
| 13:08.22 | LjL | SpeedEvil: :( i was under the impression that apps could be found on Ovi Store, but that was confusing to me when i went there, as it lists stuff for other phones i think |
| 13:08.37 | SpeedEvil | Ovi store is basically completely fucking broken. |
| 13:08.44 | kerio | phrearch: yup |
| 13:08.54 | kerio | well, for a list of satellites the gps can reasonably expect to see |
| 13:09.06 | kerio | focusing on those, you get a position way faster than the usual |
| 13:09.08 | SpeedEvil | A list of satellites, and more importantly their orbits. |
| 13:09.10 | kerio | it's callled assisted gps |
| 13:09.27 | SpeedEvil | This, combined with the current time and you r approximate location vastly speeds up lock |
| 13:10.18 | phrearch | would be fun to create some apps with gps |
| 13:10.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | go ahead, there's liblocation |
| 13:10.56 | phrearch | ok, and a python lib for it as well right? |
| 13:11.34 | phrearch | would be cool if http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP7zty5Kg7g works with gps |
| 13:11.37 | DocScrutinizer51 | dunno, probably yes |
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| 13:12.33 | LjL | for instance though i was hearing yesterday there are "a couple" of call recording apps for the N900 (which isn't possible on my Android), would those be in Extras, or somewhere on the broken Ovi Store, or what? |
| 13:12.47 | SpeedEvil | they are in extras. |
| 13:13.04 | SpeedEvil | There are - I think around a dozen GPS related apps for n900. |
| 13:13.04 | zeltak | hya..anyone knows of a identica client for the n900? |
| 13:13.52 | kerio | LjL: pretty much everything is in the repos |
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| 13:14.36 | LjL | can someone please do an apt-cache search "" for me and pastebin the result, so i can have a look at the full list easily? |
| 13:14.41 | kerio | http://tasvideos.org/650S.html |
| 13:14.50 | kerio | apt-cache list? |
| 13:14.53 | kerio | :) |
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| 13:15.11 | RST38h | How do I list all packages available from a repo? |
| 13:15.19 | RST38h | Or all configured reps for that matter |
| 13:15.33 | kerio | zeltak: "witter" does, apparently |
| 13:15.53 | zeltak | k thx kerio |
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| 13:16.24 | LjL | apt-cache search "" |
| 13:16.26 | LjL | lists them :P |
| 13:19.48 | DocScrutinizer | LjL: http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/recaller/ |
| 13:20.12 | DocScrutinizer | "stable" means extras, yes |
| 13:21.03 | RST38h | aha |
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| 13:28.28 | DocScrutinizer | looking at http://maemo.org/downloads/updated/Maemo5/25/ *#-enabler and comparing to PortaBase I wonder HTF I get a decent "icon" there? I gather that's not the app icon but a screenshot displayed there, but where to set that? |
| 13:28.54 | RST38h | BTW, what is is enabler thing for? Hasn't nokia enabled *# codes in PR1.2? |
| 13:29.40 | DocScrutinizer | given the fact my edits on http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/starhash-enabler/ vanished after some 30min |
| 13:30.08 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: see tmo "project homepage" |
| 13:30.08 | RST38h | importing a package into extras tends to delete all the edits you have previously done |
| 13:30.25 | RST38h | so, complain to XFade, although I doubt he will do anything |
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| 13:30.45 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: edits were done *after* importing |
| 13:30.51 | redsta111 | hi everyone |
| 13:31.10 | redsta111 | i need to go to the help channel.any help please. |
| 13:31.23 | DocScrutinizer | eerrrr wut? |
| 13:31.26 | frals | DocScrutinizer: same place as you edit the description you can add pictures |
| 13:31.27 | redsta111 | got bit problem |
| 13:31.39 | frals | DocScrutinizer: but the pictures actually stick, compared to description :P |
| 13:31.48 | DocScrutinizer | frals: oh I see |
| 13:31.54 | DocScrutinizer | frals: thanks |
| 13:31.57 | frals | np |
| 13:32.01 | redsta111 | any help here please |
| 13:32.12 | DocScrutinizer | ~question |
| 13:32.13 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, question is If you have a question and want people to give useful answers, make sure you have read this first: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 13:32.15 | RST38h | Doc: Yes but how do you know when it actually imports the package? |
| 13:32.20 | DocScrutinizer | ~ask |
| 13:32.21 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 13:32.25 | SpeedEvil | redsta111: however you're not actually asking a question. |
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| 13:32.27 | RST38h | Doc: Given that the actual import script runs on a timer |
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| 13:32.42 | frals | 05/35 every hour |
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| 13:32.49 | frals | (if that was the question) |
| 13:33.07 | redsta111 | yeah.The problem is I can't turn on my n900 |
| 13:33.35 | redsta111 | it happened after last night,when I was trying to run Android on it with dual boot |
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| 13:33.51 | DocScrutinizer | details please! |
| 13:34.11 | DocScrutinizer | symptoms |
| 13:34.36 | RST38h | wonders if knowing when the extras import script runs, with minute precision, is unhealthy for one's sanity |
| 13:34.44 | Termana | I ain't here voluntarily that's for sure! Strapping me in this chair is cruel and unusual punishment I tells ya! |
| 13:35.05 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: anyway on every run, edits are lost |
| 13:35.11 | RST38h | yea |
| 13:35.15 | RST38h | I know |
| 13:35.45 | RST38h | stopped caring months ago though: it is never getting fixed and it is not worth adding any package details because they get cleared |
| 13:36.01 | DocScrutinizer | yep :-S |
| 13:36.09 | DocScrutinizer | what a Sh... |
| 13:36.25 | RST38h | Doc: Who cares? Nobody uses Extras any more. Everyone is using -Testing or -Devel |
| 13:36.37 | redsta111 | yeah.last night i was trying to dual boot because of android.but I couldn't do it right.I got stuck on partition.So I quit.but today I just tried to turn off my n900 it says my phone is on usb mode remove the cable to turn it off.but it wasn't on usb so I just turned off by talking to battery out. |
| 13:36.43 | frals | what i heard X-Fade was looking in to it, but I guess there are more urgent stuff to sort |
| 13:36.52 | DocScrutinizer | to make things worse the same fsckng bug #10987 shows up on several new pages now that *# gone to stable |
| 13:36.53 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10987 http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel * <foo> rendering issue |
| 13:37.04 | RST38h | People are not stupid, no matter how much you bullshit them about "thorough testing that goes into Extras", they still figure it out that all the useful stuff is in -Testing/-Devel |
| 13:37.36 | RST38h | pulls up a respirator and goes outside to get some food |
| 13:37.50 | redsta111 | after that when I tried to turn it on agian.with white screen it says nokia-dual boot...........and in the middle it says press anykey to select with 30sec time out |
| 13:37.58 | DocScrutinizer | grins on "talking out the battery" :-> |
| 13:38.21 | redsta111 | sorry? |
| 13:38.28 | DocScrutinizer | nvm |
| 13:39.14 | Termana | LOL |
| 13:39.57 | DocScrutinizer | redsta111: seems dual boot messed up your root system. Probably you need to reflash rootfs (aka COMBINED) |
| 13:40.02 | DocScrutinizer | ~flashing |
| 13:40.03 | infobot | [flashing] http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 13:40.07 | redsta111 | but when it comes to 8sec it just turns off by it self again and again |
| 13:40.34 | redsta111 | but is there anyway to back my photos and music? |
| 13:40.43 | DocScrutinizer | won't get hurt |
| 13:40.44 | redsta111 | backup |
| 13:40.55 | DocScrutinizer | they live on eMMC |
| 13:40.59 | DocScrutinizer | aka VANILLA |
| 13:41.12 | DocScrutinizer | do NOT flash eMMC, just flash rootfs |
| 13:41.13 | redsta111 | oh u mean by only flashing the emmc or VANILLA? |
| 13:41.25 | Termana | neither |
| 13:41.43 | Termana | Flash the COMBINED (rootfs) image |
| 13:42.00 | DocScrutinizer | do NOT flash eMMC, just flash rootfs |
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| 13:43.28 | redsta111 | u mean by only flashing with firmware-image |
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| 13:47.24 | Guest62226 | DocScrutinizer: oh, does that site list everything in extras? |
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| 13:48.37 | LjL | (i assume for meego there's even less software?) |
| 13:49.03 | Termana | LjL, ... of course? MeeGo is still brewing |
| 13:49.36 | Termana | OTOH, you have countless normal Linux apps, and you can probably chroot into Maemo and use Maemo apps in MeeGo |
| 13:50.51 | LjL | oh it needs chrooting? i thought it was just compatible with at least part of the maemo apps |
| 13:51.44 | trumee | fincher# |
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| 13:56.35 | DocScrutinizer | guerby: which site? |
| 13:57.14 | DocScrutinizer | err, sorry guerby - ETAB, was meant to guest62... |
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| 14:06.19 | DocScrutinizer | LjL: maemo apps will need a recompile to work under meego aiui |
| 14:06.44 | DocScrutinizer | LjL: a chroot would enable running original maemo binaries |
| 14:09.31 | pigeon | does anyone know if you could get ovi map to show street names in a different language? |
| 14:11.02 | crashanddie | pigeon: I'd be surprised |
| 14:11.11 | crashanddie | pigeon: street names usually only have one language |
| 14:11.46 | crashanddie | except for dual-language areas, but then again, that's quite specific |
| 14:12.06 | pigeon | like, for japan, or china, it's more useful to be in japanese/chinese, rather than the english translation. |
| 14:12.47 | pigeon | i used the ovi suite to pre-download maps, and i actually found it downloaded japanese and chinese ttf into the cities directory. |
| 14:13.13 | crashanddie | well, internationally-speaking: addresses should always be written in the country's language |
| 14:13.23 | pigeon | yeah |
| 14:13.34 | pigeon | ovi maps seems to just show the english translation street names |
| 14:14.01 | crashanddie | so yes, you are correct, china's addresses should be in mandarin (or whatever the official language is for china) or kanji |
| 14:14.08 | DocScrutinizer | crashanddie: Taipei streetnames have 2 lang |
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| 14:14.39 | crashanddie | DocScrutinizer: here in French Catalunya streets have two names as well, the French, and the Catalan name. |
| 14:15.06 | DocScrutinizer | same in spain I guess, for katalan |
| 14:15.27 | pigeon | so, i guess ovi maps can't do it, or at least the version on the n900 can't. |
| 14:15.44 | crashanddie | pigeon: that would be my guess, too. |
| 14:15.53 | crashanddie | is ovi maps usable for any routing, btw? |
| 14:16.13 | DocScrutinizer | pigeon: set general language to kanji and maybe ovi streetmaps change |
| 14:16.40 | pigeon | i tried changing my n900 language/locale to taiwan/chinese, but didn't help the map street names. |
| 14:16.52 | DocScrutinizer | hmm :-S |
| 14:17.16 | pigeon | crashanddie: it worked, but i wouldn't say it's great. |
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| 14:17.51 | pigeon | mappero does voice, which has the advantage for driving. |
| 14:17.57 | DocScrutinizer | generally spoken routing yes, guiding no |
| 14:20.45 | DocScrutinizer | pigeon: I'd be surprised if changing LOCALE of a western maemo to Chinese did work at all |
| 14:21.51 | DocScrutinizer | maybe switches *some* labels, but for sure not the general way of device operation |
| 14:22.11 | pigeon | well i installed the chinese package, i've generated the locales myself before too, n900 ui wise is fine, but ovi maps street names are still english for taiwan, for example. |
| 14:22.40 | DocScrutinizer | mhm, ovi maps is kinda off board app |
| 14:22.54 | pigeon | i do have a chinese (hk) version of an n900 here too, i could try to load ovi maps on it and see. |
| 14:22.59 | DocScrutinizer | it won't simply change by switching to Chinese I guess |
| 14:23.32 | pigeon | my own n900 is the us version, i bought another n900 for someone which is a hk version. |
| 14:23.32 | DocScrutinizer | probably OVI maps simply doesn't support that |
| 14:24.13 | DocScrutinizer | tbh I'd expect you are more lucky with katalan than with chinese ;-) |
| 14:24.28 | DocScrutinizer | for maps |
| 14:24.29 | pigeon | perhaps i could do another test, i will install the ovi suite and select chinese version, and see if that changes anything. |
| 14:24.54 | DocScrutinizer | nods |
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| 14:30.27 | corecode | how long does it take to charge full speed when the battery is completely dead? |
| 14:31.38 | DocScrutinizer | 3h |
| 14:31.52 | DocScrutinizer | maybe 4 |
| 14:32.06 | jacekowski | i've started ovi suite trying to get some maps onto my phone |
| 14:32.12 | jacekowski | and well it's just not doing anything |
| 14:32.34 | jacekowski | please wait while retrieving the avaliable maps ........ |
| 14:32.36 | DocScrutinizer | ovi suite just gives me "no ELF" :-P |
| 14:32.47 | RST38h | forget ovi suite |
| 14:32.50 | RST38h | copy maps directly |
| 14:33.03 | RST38h | ovi suite is satan's spawn |
| 14:33.07 | jacekowski | how? |
| 14:33.13 | RST38h | a moment |
| 14:33.14 | jacekowski | where do you get map files from? |
| 14:33.33 | pigeon | i did the direct copy method too, but now i realized using ovi suite is actually different. |
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| 14:34.43 | pigeon | for direct download, i followed: http://www.hpsblog.com/2009/07/direct-download-for-ovi-maps-30-without.html |
| 14:34.57 | RST38h | jacekowski: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=428531&postcount=20 |
| 14:35.02 | pigeon | but then, now i compared with maps downloaded using ovi suite, the files are not exactly the same. |
| 14:35.19 | DocScrutinizer | corecode: if you have screen on and some power greedy things active, then maybe much longer even than 4h, maybe forever |
| 14:36.11 | jacekowski | btw. search is not working with downloaded maps as well? |
| 14:36.36 | RST38h | ...automatically adjust parking rates based on supply and demand, which means you could pay anywhere from $0.25 to $6.00 an hour depending on how many free spaces there are... |
| 14:37.04 | corecode | DocScrutinizer: i mean battery so dead that it doesn't start |
| 14:37.09 | RST38h | Weird. Why not just raise the price to $6/hr? They will make more money this way. |
| 14:37.25 | jacekowski | corecode: then it will go into emergency charge mode |
| 14:37.32 | corecode | yes, that's what i mean |
| 14:37.38 | corecode | how long will it take until i can boot it? |
| 14:37.40 | DocScrutinizer | corecode: see... |
| 14:37.46 | jacekowski | corecode: and if it's so dead that it will not go into emergency charge mode then it's impossible to charge it |
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| 14:37.51 | DocScrutinizer | ~flatbat-recover |
| 14:37.59 | DocScrutinizer | err |
| 14:38.22 | pigeon | jacekowski: ovi map's search seems to need a net connection, don't ask me why though... |
| 14:38.32 | corecode | it is still blinking |
| 14:38.36 | jacekowski | well it doesn't work with net connection |
| 14:38.40 | corecode | but for quite some time now |
| 14:38.45 | jacekowski | corecode: it's charging then |
| 14:38.46 | DocScrutinizer | ~flatbat-recover |
| 14:38.50 | DocScrutinizer | ~flatbatrecover |
| 14:38.51 | infobot | Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered Nokia wallcharger to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover |
| 14:38.52 | b-man | lol |
| 14:38.54 | DocScrutinizer | damn |
| 14:39.44 | corecode | why the remove? |
| 14:39.53 | DocScrutinizer | sighs |
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| 14:40.04 | corecode | well i have a blinking amber |
| 14:40.06 | corecode | ha! |
| 14:40.08 | DocScrutinizer | needed to reset... things |
| 14:40.08 | corecode | it booted |
| 14:40.09 | jacekowski | then leave it |
| 14:40.23 | corecode | weee |
| 14:40.43 | DocScrutinizer | lock screen, and wait til green |
| 14:41.19 | DocScrutinizer | if you got any problems with charging before |
| 14:41.45 | corecode | only with bad cables |
| 14:42.05 | DocScrutinizer | also *always* use Nokia wallcharger if any problems with charging |
| 14:42.30 | corecode | yea, don't have it right now with me |
| 14:43.06 | DocScrutinizer | so what U r using then? |
| 14:43.51 | corecode | a usb charger bought in a grocery store |
| 14:43.55 | DocScrutinizer | 3rd party wallwart charger? or PC? which OS on PC? |
| 14:43.55 | corecode | says 1000mA |
| 14:44.18 | DocScrutinizer | corecode: odds are it charges at 100mA only, due to missing D+- short |
| 14:44.52 | DocScrutinizer | also iirc you should use at least a 1200mA charger with N900 |
| 14:45.41 | corecode | ah |
| 14:45.44 | DocScrutinizer | corecode: N900 most probably will DIScharge when connected to charger without D+- short signalling |
| 14:45.54 | corecode | no, it works |
| 14:45.57 | corecode | i was using it |
| 14:46.08 | DocScrutinizer | hmm |
| 14:46.15 | corecode | which file could i check for the charging current? |
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| 14:46.21 | corecode | some in /sys or /proc |
| 14:46.35 | DocScrutinizer | bq27200.sh |
| 14:46.40 | DocScrutinizer | of ShadowJK |
| 14:47.41 | DocScrutinizer | there are some sysnodes to query about charger detect, but I don't know off top of my head |
| 14:48.18 | DocScrutinizer | bq27200 will tell you *true* current of battery |
| 14:48.53 | DocScrutinizer | while the sysnodes only get you notion of kernel about current situation about connected charger |
| 14:49.58 | corecode | trying to find the script |
| 14:50.16 | DocScrutinizer | corecode: sorry dude, I know that's not exactly helping right now, in your situation |
| 14:50.30 | corecode | np, i got it to boot |
| 14:50.36 | corecode | and it is charging slowly |
| 14:51.04 | corecode | so where is that .sh file? |
| 14:52.54 | DocScrutinizer | WTF?! |
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| 14:52.57 | DocScrutinizer | jr@halley:~> lshal|grep battery.vol |
| 14:52.59 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:53.00 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:53.02 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:53.18 | DocScrutinizer | ooh |
| 14:53.20 | DocScrutinizer | sorry |
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| 14:54.00 | DocScrutinizer | Nokia-N900-42-11:~# lshal|grep battery.vol |
| 14:54.02 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.03 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.05 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.22 | corecode | heh what was that? |
| 14:54.37 | ShadowJK | hal-device bme | grep positive |
| 14:54.42 | DocScrutinizer | corecode: good start to check that value (voltage.current) ans see if it rises |
| 14:54.53 | corecode | it says charge charge_level.current = 8 |
| 14:54.56 | corecode | haha |
| 14:54.59 | corecode | is that mA? |
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| 14:55.13 | SpeedEvil | no |
| 14:55.18 | SpeedEvil | it's the 'bars' |
| 14:55.26 | SpeedEvil | 8 is fully charged IIRC |
| 14:55.31 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.36 | ShadowJK | the level doesn't update while charging |
| 14:55.53 | DocScrutinizer | voltage does though iirc |
| 14:55.59 | ShadowJK | corecode, comfortable with rootsh? |
| 14:56.18 | corecode | always |
| 14:56.28 | corecode | ah, it says 85% |
| 14:56.35 | DocScrutinizer | nvm |
| 14:56.52 | DocScrutinizer | bogus |
| 14:57.17 | DocScrutinizer | sometimes at least |
| 14:57.30 | SpeedEvil | The battery voltage from hal is accurate. |
| 14:57.35 | DocScrutinizer | bat voltage current is best value you can get |
| 14:57.42 | SpeedEvil | I'm unsure any parameter else is actually useful. |
| 14:57.49 | DocScrutinizer | nope |
| 14:58.12 | ShadowJK | corecode, sudo gainroot, su -, wget http://enivax.net/jk/n900/bq.tar , tar -xf bq.tar, ./bq27200.sh 5 |
| 14:58.13 | RST38h | Hehe, Texrat got really angry now =) |
| 14:58.34 | DocScrutinizer | ouch |
| 14:58.38 | DocScrutinizer | pointer? |
| 14:58.39 | corecode | yea for some reason i don't have wget |
| 14:58.42 | corecode | how is that possible |
| 14:58.43 | ShadowJK | The hal stuff is "lazily" updated. It's mostly only updated when battery icon becomes visible |
| 14:59.00 | DocScrutinizer | apt-get install wget |
| 14:59.59 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: I'd doubt we want to RE such crap ;-P |
| 15:00.17 | RST38h | Doc: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=56544&page=2 |
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| 15:00.45 | DocScrutinizer | everything done from scratch for jrbme / hal-addon-jrbme could only be better |
| 15:01.35 | corecode | 500mA |
| 15:01.51 | corecode | hmm |
| 15:02.05 | corecode | so i should mod the charger to short d+ and d-? |
| 15:02.42 | corecode | thanks |
| 15:03.05 | ShadowJK | corecode, does it say 500mA in the mA column? |
| 15:03.10 | corecode | yes |
| 15:03.15 | corecode | 505, 496 etc |
| 15:03.16 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: fair enough |
| 15:03.19 | ShadowJK | What's in the volt column? |
| 15:03.29 | ShadowJK | sorry, mv column |
| 15:03.40 | DocScrutinizer | TTF col? |
| 15:03.40 | corecode | 4114, 4122 |
| 15:03.51 | DocScrutinizer | your charger is fine |
| 15:03.57 | DocScrutinizer | your bat is almost full |
| 15:04.02 | ShadowJK | yep |
| 15:04.03 | corecode | yeh |
| 15:04.33 | corecode | but if it cal already do 1A, why not hack it so that it also does use 1A? |
| 15:04.34 | DocScrutinizer | TTF gives you a coarse idea about ETA to 100% |
| 15:04.35 | RST38h | Doc: I wonder if he starts changing people's comments again |
| 15:04.41 | ShadowJK | the RSOC/CSOC columns are probably 80 or 90 something? |
| 15:04.45 | corecode | i need to check why the other cables don't work |
| 15:05.00 | corecode | 64 both |
| 15:05.08 | ShadowJK | corecode: Oh basically the battery when approaching full can't accept full 1000mAh charge |
| 15:05.14 | corecode | ah |
| 15:05.19 | DocScrutinizer | corecode: the 500 are as much as battery cell actually likes to take in that situation |
| 15:05.32 | corecode | fine |
| 15:06.05 | DocScrutinizer | the charger however is delivering 500 + <system consumption: ~200..400> |
| 15:06.07 | ShadowJK | This has the side-effect that first 50% are pretty fast |
| 15:06.26 | ShadowJK | and the last 10% takes a long time :) |
| 15:06.31 | corecode | :) |
| 15:06.45 | DocScrutinizer | well actually *Vbat/5V |
| 15:07.26 | DocScrutinizer | 4150 and above can be considered "full" cell |
| 15:07.44 | ShadowJK | corecode, hey, can you run just './bq27200.sh' and pastebin me the output? |
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| 15:07.57 | DocScrutinizer | one line, paste here |
| 15:08.25 | ShadowJK | I actually wanted the "dump" format that also has some eeprom data :) |
| 15:08.32 | DocScrutinizer | ooh |
| 15:08.57 | DocScrutinizer | you expect any news on that? |
| 15:09.15 | ShadowJK | I'm just collecting samples :) |
| 15:09.20 | DocScrutinizer | :-D |
| 15:09.37 | DocScrutinizer | you never can have too much samples |
| 15:10.10 | DocScrutinizer | bets on "cycles since last learning" ? |
| 15:10.52 | DocScrutinizer | my bet: 0 |
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| 15:12.16 | SpeedEvil | http://pastebin.ca/1912801 ShadowJK |
| 15:12.23 | SpeedEvil | (22mr) |
| 15:12.59 | DocScrutinizer | charging finished |
| 15:13.03 | corecode | pastebin.org/453123 |
| 15:13.05 | DocScrutinizer | microcycling |
| 15:14.01 | DocScrutinizer | corecode: he was interested n full output of a call to shellscript without trailing 5 ;-) |
| 15:14.22 | corecode | ah? |
| 15:14.25 | corecode | is that different |
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| 15:14.42 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: you should augment that script to print out actual RS value |
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| 15:15.23 | corecode | fine there you go |
| 15:15.41 | corecode | pastebin.org/453143 |
| 15:16.25 | DocScrutinizer | Cycle Count since Learning: 58 -- ouch I've been way off with my '0' |
| 15:16.51 | corecode | heh |
| 15:17.14 | SpeedEvil | If you don't screw with it and don't hit wierd usecases, I suspect most peoples bats will never learn. |
| 15:17.15 | corecode | 1510mAh, is that good? |
| 15:17.22 | MohammadAG | ooh, jrbme? |
| 15:17.26 | SpeedEvil | corecode: 1510 is completley made up. |
| 15:17.35 | SpeedEvil | corecode: it's the initially set capacity |
| 15:17.41 | corecode | beh |
| 15:17.50 | corecode | so it does not measure the capacity |
| 15:17.52 | nox- | Learning hmm... does that mean one should run the battery flat at least once so it knows more about it? |
| 15:18.52 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: actually last measured discharge |
| 15:19.09 | DocScrutinizer | on a RS I think is wrong |
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| 15:19.41 | DocScrutinizer | nox-: exactly |
| 15:19.52 | ShadowJK | corecode, thanks |
| 15:20.56 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: I mean LMD does not differ from ILMD if you only have cycles that disqualify. |
| 15:21.22 | DocScrutinizer | ILMD=2056 |
| 15:21.26 | nox- | and if you have to take the battery out because it crashed, will it forget what it has learned? |
| 15:21.48 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 15:21.56 | nox- | hrrm |
| 15:22.15 | DocScrutinizer | nox-: after all you could have swapped for a different battery |
| 15:22.23 | nox- | yeah thats why i asked |
| 15:22.42 | SpeedEvil | If you take the battery out, it will forget cycles too though |
| 15:22.46 | DocScrutinizer | this chip isn't designed for mounting to device, it's supposed to live inside battery |
| 15:23.05 | nox- | oh |
| 15:23.38 | DocScrutinizer | so the way it's used here yields sub par performance/experience |
| 15:23.50 | nox- | *nod* |
| 15:24.34 | SpeedEvil | The way it's used in the phone is somewhat irrelevant. |
| 15:24.45 | DocScrutinizer | err? |
| 15:24.51 | SpeedEvil | In that the exact way it's configured - it could give 100% accurate battery life |
| 15:25.08 | ShadowJK | 1510 is ILMD-ILMD/8, once or twice.. |
| 15:25.08 | SpeedEvil | simply by BME noting down the real capacity at every end of charge. |
| 15:25.12 | DocScrutinizer | just after learning cycle |
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| 15:25.27 | SpeedEvil | Even if the battery chip doesn't 'really' learn. |
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| 15:25.48 | SpeedEvil | This would have some advantage - for example - it means that it can keep track of different battery capacities in software |
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| 15:26.49 | DocScrutinizer | what I bet it tries somehow (bme) - look at jacekowski find about bme writing(!) to cal |
| 15:27.56 | DocScrutinizer | Imean how odd is THAT? writing data to cal about a device basically *attached* to N900 |
| 15:29.13 | DocScrutinizer | to CAL(!) |
| 15:29.19 | nox- | whats cal? |
| 15:29.46 | DocScrutinizer | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=20465 |
| 15:30.23 | corecode | SpeedEvil: i took out the battery to replace the SIM card |
| 15:30.27 | corecode | SpeedEvil: and the cycles didn't reset |
| 15:30.34 | SpeedEvil | yeah - I said if it reset |
| 15:30.38 | corecode | ah |
| 15:30.38 | corecode | ok |
| 15:30.44 | SpeedEvil | I don't think it resets immediately in all circumstances. |
| 15:31.03 | SpeedEvil | Possibly if plugged into USB vbat will stay >2.5 - I'm unsure |
| 15:31.58 | DocScrutinizer | corecode: takes a while until it actually resets when bat out. There are bufer caps |
| 15:32.23 | DocScrutinizer | if still plugged to USB it'll never reset on bat removal |
| 15:32.37 | DocScrutinizer | I think :-) |
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| 15:33.25 | corecode | yea, i lost the time a couple of times |
| 15:33.29 | corecode | annoying |
| 15:33.34 | nox- | what what does image-viewer do? it seems to more or less constantaly eat cpu here... |
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| 15:34.28 | DocScrutinizer | only as long as it takes to run a 'grep -r somecrappattern /' |
| 15:34.57 | DocScrutinizer | actually 'grep -r somecrappattern ~user/MyDocs' |
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| 15:35.33 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:35.57 | nox- | you mean image-viewer? |
| 15:36.09 | DocScrutinizer | I really mean trackerd |
| 15:36.25 | DocScrutinizer | which aiui is triggered by image-viewer |
| 15:36.32 | nox- | well trackerd i no longer see running |
| 15:36.32 | nox- | ah |
| 15:37.11 | DocScrutinizer | htop will tell ;-) |
| 15:37.58 | DocScrutinizer | but maybe image-viewer is busy as well, to animate all the animated gifs you got on your device - who knows... X-P |
| 15:38.10 | nox- | haha no |
| 15:38.30 | SpeedEvil | If it is not idle, hen it should be, enter a bug in the bugtracker. |
| 15:38.31 | DocScrutinizer | bbl |
| 15:39.13 | nox- | hm right now trackerd i see too in htop |
| 15:39.23 | nox- | `normal' top only showed image-viewer |
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| 15:39.34 | nox- | or did the apt-get installl htop trigger trackerd? |
| 15:40.18 | DocScrutinizer | maybe, but first check sort field of top |
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| 15:40.52 | nox- | i think it sorts by %cpu |
| 15:40.59 | DocScrutinizer | might not show trackerd (I have to confess I never got it how to display more than the first page of processes, in top) |
| 15:41.23 | nox- | well now its back to image-viewer at top |
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| 15:42.24 | DocScrutinizer | [2010-08-07 17:38:29] <SpeedEvil> If it is not idle,... bugtracker |
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| 15:45.25 | nox- | how do you take a scrrenshot? (of xterm in this case) |
| 15:45.36 | nox- | screenshot even |
| 15:45.39 | DocScrutinizer | ctrl-sh-p |
| 15:45.42 | frals | ctrl shift p |
| 15:46.18 | nox- | and where does the file go? |
| 15:46.23 | DocScrutinizer | sudo go buy food for me |
| 15:46.51 | frals | MyDocs somewhere, images or something similar |
| 15:46.54 | DocScrutinizer | somewhere in MyDocs/.*/screenshots afaik |
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| 15:47.54 | nox- | ah found it, thx |
| 15:48.05 | DocScrutinizer | meh, garbage BGA chips on random places here... XD |
| 15:48.23 | DocScrutinizer | waves |
| 15:49.35 | FIQ | mydocs/.images/Screenshots |
| 15:49.42 | FIQ | MyDocs* |
| 15:49.50 | DocScrutinizer | somebody needs a K4M511633C? (me throwing the critter into bin) |
| 15:50.12 | FIQ | never heard about. :d |
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| 15:53.36 | nox- | http://www.imagebanana.com/view/6alfvvon/Screenshot20100807175154.png |
| 15:54.08 | nox- | this image-viewer seems to have run for total of 58h!? |
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| 15:54.48 | nox- | oh and has anyone here used fbreader? am i right it has no keyboard control on n900? |
| 15:56.31 | lcuk | it used to have kb control on 8x0 and I doubt they would have removed it |
| 15:56.34 | lcuk | configurable |
| 15:56.44 | nox- | hm where? |
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| 15:56.56 | lcuk | options? |
| 15:58.07 | nox- | click at the top? preferences in there has nothing about kbd... |
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| 16:00.05 | lcuk | nox-, on the options dialog there is a keys tab |
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| 16:00.52 | nox- | where is the options dialog? the one you get by clicking at `fbreader' at the top? |
| 16:01.16 | b-man | taking screenshots the hardcore way: |
| 16:01.18 | b-man | cp /dev/fb0 screenshot.raw && ffmpeg -vcodec rawvideo -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb565 -s 800x480 -i screenshot.raw -f image2 -vcodec png screenshot.png |
| 16:01.28 | nox- | heh |
| 16:01.44 | lcuk | b-man, actually more useful than you think |
| 16:01.55 | lcuk | can take screenshots from ssh console on big computer easier! |
| 16:02.06 | b-man | xD |
| 16:02.11 | lcuk | but it needs to format the filename correctly to include datestamp |
| 16:02.21 | lcuk | or dupes occur |
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| 16:03.18 | lcuk | nox-, click on one of the tab headers in the fbreader->preferences dialog |
| 16:03.25 | lcuk | and use arrow keys on keyboard to move right |
| 16:03.34 | lcuk | theres more tabs on the dialog than you see initially |
| 16:03.55 | lcuk | its very intuitive like that |
| 16:04.28 | nox- | aah :) |
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| 16:08.10 | nox- | thats better :) |
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| 16:17.41 | nox- | thx lcuk :) |
| 16:17.56 | lcuk | yw \o |
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| 16:30.01 | frals | i love how ppl are posting "omg mms sucks use email" in fmms thread |
| 16:30.34 | korhojoa | :D |
| 16:30.39 | korhojoa | how supportive |
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| 16:33.59 | spinningcompass | Has anyone in here successfully compiled PyPy to run on a Nokia N810? |
| 16:34.11 | lcuk | frals, computer folks do, but having mms is something for those times when email just won't do |
| 16:34.28 | lcuk | we know this already though :D |
| 16:34.47 | spinningcompass | It won't compile on Scratchbox2+QEMU because it keeps segfaulting (sig11). It won't compile on the PDA because the PDA has too little RAM. I'm thinking of NFS-mounting my laptop to the PDA & then mounting a volume from the laptop onto the PDA as virtual RAM. :-/ |
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| 16:36.18 | frals | lcuk: yeah, its pretty obvious but still people feel they need to state this *shrug* |
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| 16:37.24 | tT4mHVxjHvP5UJ | the only solution is to go up there with your katana and show them who wears the kimono in your dojo iqD2XCpj |
| 16:37.38 | frals | DocScrutinizer, Stskeeps, MohammadAG51, wtb kickban |
| 16:37.41 | lcuk | tT4mHVxjHvP5UJ, you spent time typing that carefully and c&p and it STILL cropped and had typos? |
| 16:37.41 | tT4mHVxjHvP5UJ | Russel Simmons is truely a hero amongst us. He owns his own music label, shoe company, and even a clothing line, rightfully named PHAT FARM! The clothes are hand stitched together by hundreds of obese naked women sitting in tubs of sperm. Their only form of payment is cunnilingus performed by farm animals, hence the clothing name! Simmons is a brilliant man! mjN0kpJ9nb |
| 16:37.45 | tT4mHVxjHvP5UJ | My hole day in skateboarding is just wake up when ever you feel like it eat then go meet a few friends skate chill skate get something to eat then skate chill run from the pigs and skate then go to sleep about 4 or 5 in the morning. 0F0Uy9WTSe3K |
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| 16:38.46 | mOzQHMYkoV | Does anyone remember that commercial on TV where the kids would drink Yoohoo or some other beverage out of one of those juice boxes with the red and white striped straw? They would get sucked into the box and have on giant party. I always thought that if I sucked hard enough I would get to go there and party. yuGY04GBbfZ |
| 16:38.50 | hYebkFEXD | listen you fucking shit skinned coon nigger jungle bunny spear chucker. Shut your chocolate tar baby hide before I whip your ass. go back to niggeria and prance around with all the Schvartza in the bush you fucking moolie nigger. ill fucking brand you toby, and if you try any of that KUNTA KINTA crap ill fucking execute you and feed you to pigs. nmmxMOXz6WW55a |
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| 16:38.52 | mOzQHMYkoV | I'm usually at the club on Sunday night, and they will have Adult Swim playing on the TVs behind the bar. Having Boo-Boo Runs Wild on at the exact time every Sunday gives me a good visual clue that the night is starting to run its course, and that I should make it my last round so that I'll be sober enough to drive. (So I can get home and watch the night's lineup as I taped it.) lcRPWBX6tsp |
| 16:38.54 | hYebkFEXD | It appears as though Robert Hanssen, the American FBI agent accused of selling American secrets to the Russians, was a registered Linux user!!! This is further evidence, as if any more was needed, that Linux and communism are inseperable, and that anyone using Linux is supporting the communist murder of millions! NGNMCf2F |
| 16:38.56 | mOzQHMYkoV | While many parents are digging deep and forgoing luxuries in order to buy their children the newest videogame console, I've decided to build my own interactive entertainment device for my children. It's a desk with a copy of the holy bible on it. I call it the "Praystation 3" qShqY |
| 16:38.57 | lcuk | i get the feeling this is a concerted attack |
| 16:38.57 | JVswymQWlVWF8f | go back to tabulating your ultimate apple dream machine on apple.com then playing snes all night SQAu90akbuZBOo |
| 16:39.00 | mOzQHMYkoV | Gentlemen, I am pleased to announce the following: My testicles and penis are larger than the average size by a considerable degree, which women find very attractive. I also possess a great deal of wealth, including sports cars, real estate, works of art, and extensive liquid assets, which are also very desirable to women. In short, your genotype has no chance to survive. That is all. O50TTXYPVu |
| 16:39.03 | hYebkFEXD | dude...listen...pretty much evry one hate him and microsoft, sure he's given us some computer crap who cares, its all crap, i hate windows so much, its the crapyest piece of shit ever, i want linux! vHAVmzp |
| 16:39.04 | JVswymQWlVWF8f | If Microsoft gets rid of that millions lines of spaghetti code in Windows XP (expect the same in Longhorn 2006 & Blackcomb 2112) and comes up with a brand new efficient system that equals the Apple, Apple can finally be laid to rest. After all Microsoft is the standard, like the Qwerty keyboard. You are going to have to live with Microsoft and those millions of lines of spaghetti code for some years to come. LDaP1kF |
| 16:39.04 | mOzQHMYkoV | Before I dropped out of college, I strove to be as different from everyone else as I could be, reading manga and blasting JPOP music in my car. NgEtcLGh |
| 16:39.04 | hYebkFEXD | I eat exclusively from the following list of 12 foods: Almonds/nuts, Berries, Oats/whole grain cereal, vegetables (especially green leafy), Beans and Legumes, Nonfat Dairy products, Eggs, Lean Meats (especially turkey), peanut butter, olive oil, Whey protein, and Whole Grain Bread (which falls under oats/cereals). My colon is immaculate, and my bowel movements are enormous, dense, and dry as a biscuit. wzJ93V0e |
| 16:39.05 | JVswymQWlVWF8f | girl you must be the recently cancelled television show "enterprise" because no matter how many fat sweaty nerds profess their love for you, you are still just a piece of shit whore that no respectable man would allow himself to be seen in public with glSV1aUe |
| 16:39.07 | mOzQHMYkoV | girl you must be ghonorrea because you're totally eating my nuts bdfkPb1uAD |
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| 16:39.10 | JVswymQWlVWF8f | I work at a University IT helpdesk, and after far too many malware problems from far too many dumb lusers (and many of them repeat visits), I've adopted a new policy.If a student or member of faculty comes in with malware problems for the first time, I fix it for them and I give them a Gentoo Linux install CD to go away with. If they come back with viruses/spyware a second time, I tell the luser to stop bothering me, and that I |
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| 16:39.11 | mOzQHMYkoV | hey everyone remember that one time when klerck shot himself directly in the face with a shotgun and killed himself and we all were like "whoa" and he was like "drip drip"... that shit was awesome TZ1ns76XrWTX5 |
| 16:39.13 | lcuk | OPS!! |
| 16:39.14 | JVswymQWlVWF8f | The relationship between gamer and game is much unlike the relationship between needle and record-groove (that is to say, the needle loves the record groove and vice-versa, so says Tamio Okuda); the game has to love the player even when the player hates the game. 7Db9VJBvvl |
| 16:39.15 | bcpuWyhSmGMt | LAWL I ONCE HEARD AN AOL COMMERCIAL THAT SAID "AOL IS GOOD" AND I LAUGHED MY ASS OFF AND I LITERALLY PISSED AND SHAT MY PANTS SIMULTANEOUSLY AND THEN I THREW UP IN MY MOUTH A LITTLE AND IT WAS THE FUNNIEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD OH MY GOD THAT WAS FUNNY JJbnXj4GvvnRH |
| 16:39.15 | mOzQHMYkoV | i need dank nugs, smoke roach bugs, bird-man lugs, tree smokin thugs, i'm on a mission to secure a blunt, don't be pullin no bogartin' stunt, hoardin that shit ain't really kind, absorb that herb into yo mind, smokin' and tokin' until you're blind, what out for 5-0 or you gonna get fined jj61UwpfSBsoZ |
| 16:39.17 | m5AhrRnKhm | I got a 5+ on all 23 of my AP tests, a 2400 on the SAT, a 1337 on the ACT, but it's not a big deal since I have a 270 IQ. I was drunk, high, and getting a blowjob during every test, and I didn't study for any of them or sleep in the prior weeks. aRB6D |
| 16:39.17 | JVswymQWlVWF8f | I'm going to be taking a long vacation in a couple months and I want to take a sheet of acid over with me. I'd really rather not bring it with me on the plane as I've seen the security measures at the airport I'll be flying to and they're pretty strict, so I was thinking of faxing it over before hand. Anyone know if this would work? flQ3Fcz |
| 16:39.18 | mOzQHMYkoV | Y'ALL HURD ABOUT DA HEERRIKANE? YO KATRINA WAS CAUZED BY WMDs YA HEARD? DAS RITE YO. WEAPONS OF METEORLOGICAL DESTRUCTION. DA INSURGENTS ND DA TALIBAN R BEHIND ALL DIS. ND FEMA IS RACIZICALIST TOO. BUSH DON'T CARE ABOUT BLACK PEEPLE. rRFT1zmN |
| 16:39.19 | bcpuWyhSmGMt | XTC RAVEZ CANDY VISORZ WATER BOTTLEZ LOVE PEACE TRIPLE STACKED PAUL OAKENFOLD PLUR GLOWSTIX LOCKJAW PACIFIARS TURNTABLES PLUR EX STROBE LIGHTS LASER SHOW UNDERGROUND RAVE RAVE RAVE XXX FUCK FUCK FUCK LOVE EVERY1 KANDY BRACELETZ ACID WEED POT DRUG DRUG DRUG SPESHAL K TRANKWILIZER EXXXSTASY COLORS UNDERGROUND RAVE MUZIK XTC DANCE ALL NITE FUCK THE PARENTZ DEYHDRATION HUGE PANTS BODY PAINT PLUR PLUR PLUR LOCKJAW GLOW STIX VISOR UNDE |
| 16:39.20 | m5AhrRnKhm | there is no such thing as hardcore gaming, anymore then there is anything extreme about mountain dew livewire v41Gbv |
| 16:39.22 | JVswymQWlVWF8f | you walk in( the door will be open for you) you come to my bedrom where porn will be playing.......you begin to suck this big black dick...no damn small talk...just walk in and start sucking........i cum on your face and then you can leave or then when can have small talk.....be ready.....i dont want a lot of emails back and forth..just let me know if your ready for a address..... 7reQFTN |
| 16:39.23 | bcpuWyhSmGMt | The Flu Fuck: blow that snot into your hand. wipe it on your tongue oh man. crunchy crunch, the boogers go. Gulp! you swallow. Down they go. Uh-uh-uh here comes sneeze. Achoo! You're bent, hands on your knees. A prodding's felt, betwixt your cheeks. What the heck? It's a linux geek With cock unfurl'd, he rips your pants. Nothing can stop this fag's advance. In it goes, his cock doth plunge. Your memory will never ever expunge: th |
| 16:39.24 | m5AhrRnKhm | Honestly, I'd like to hear some commentary from someone who hasn't been caught trying to suck their own dick. 38GpR |
| 16:39.25 | JVswymQWlVWF8f | Face it, you just want an ipod so you can hack the firmware to make it vibrate then stick the smooth case up your ass you big FAG!!! ArW98DwVRBYLUT |
| 16:39.26 | bcpuWyhSmGMt | There is no doubt that white boys do play video games well. Having been run off the football field, basketball court, and track by more athletic black boys, white boys retreat to their computers and video games. Unfortunately, this only makes their unathletic bodies weaker, thus seriously harming their concept of masculinity and making them social outcasts with females. PvA2uO |
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| 16:39.28 | m5AhrRnKhm | Guys, what I don't get about plane crashes and falling elevator deaths is: why don't the victims just time it so that they jump straight up in the air right before the plane hits the ground? The jump would be a little high, yes, and you might break your ankle or even your leg, but isn't that better than getting smashed to smithereens? leEMWg |
| 16:39.29 | JVswymQWlVWF8f | Go back to listening to your "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" book-on-tape in your 1989 Honda Accord on your 25 minute commute to your dead end job. gPLzLLD |
| 16:39.33 | THBBM | You should connect your graphics card directly to the mains. You can buy molex connectors from any good electronics store and then splice it into the lead from a hair dryer or toaster. This should deliver the correct voltage direct to your graphics card (the molex also functions as a voltage regulator and AC rectifier). It's the equivalent of having an Antex 3kW power supply. K2v9PFQOl |
| 16:39.49 | PhonicUK | wtf |
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| 16:40.47 | yYMTn | BLOGGABLES ??? THE BLOGOSPHERE ??? BLOGOMATIC ??? SIMULBLOGCAST ??? ECOBLOGS ??? METABLOGS ??? BLOGS OF BLOGS ??? MEDIABLOGS ??? CATABLOG ??? UBERBLOG ??? BLOGSERVATION ??? RADIOBLOGS ??? BLOGSPIRATION ??? BLOGDEX ??? BLOGDIGGER ??? BLOGLINES ??? BLOGPULSE ??? BLOGRUNNER ??? BLOGSNOW ??? BLOGWISE ??? BLOGBRITY ??? BLOGS OF BLOGS TALKING ABOUT BLOGGING BLOGS ??? l4snXAUG9dopjt |
| 16:40.50 | HNNVy2cMEQTZ | If there is one thing that OSS has shown, it is that full time software teams do not produce better quality products than the amateurs (example: Linux v. windows) NGRd4r1tn |
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| 16:41.02 | HNNVy2cMEQTZ | Ok Im New To This I Posted One Picture Of Me On My Website And Now Im Trying To Post Another But All I Do Stay In The Log AndIt Says Uploading Picute May Take A Few Seconds Then I Check My Site And Nothing No Posts Or Anything Someone Please Help EqTMjSy |
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| 16:41.07 | cOiwjB60PBz | I'm going to be taking a long vacation in a couple months and I want to take a sheet of acid over with me. I'd really rather not bring it with me on the plane as I've seen the security measures at the airport I'll be flying to and they're pretty strict, so I was thinking of faxing it over before hand. Anyone know if this would work? RU2nQvqxbtlFVE |
| 16:41.09 | CrHZdfP | Gimp is perfectly usable. I know. I use it to add a mosaic over the faces of my many preteen rape victims. thlECr4m6g |
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| 16:41.12 | cOiwjB60PBz | Anyone think jews are really hot? Especially rabbis! Those greasy curls send me wild.Sadly there's no jews in my region of the desert, so camels have to do. g6sLsYmpBs8Lu |
| 16:41.13 | CrHZdfP | IF U R ON DIZ LIST, WTACH OUT!!! U R A MARKED MAN (OR WOMAN), I WILL HAV MY VENGEANCE ON U ALL!!! U SHALL FEEL MY WRATHLY WRATH, U SHALL RUE DA DAY U MADE AN N.A.ME OF DA MAD MATRIX HA><0R!!@#!$ SCtcLp3 |
| 16:41.16 | uVRbw | Don't obscure the topic at hand with "facts". History has always been made through quick, instinctual choices. Intellect is nothing but a distraction when it comes to life shattering situations. Look at how it has defined our history. Do you think I am about to turn away from the legacy of generations before me? Alternative methods take longer, and never completely solve the problem. It is easier for the mass populace to attack a probl |
| 16:41.16 | CrHZdfP | It is indeed a cruel twist of nature that the most wonderful sex coupling in the world ?is illegal - made so by puritanical Adults determined to limit child rights. KSkDguzCXtC |
| 16:41.17 | frals | asked in freenode chan for an oper to come help |
| 16:41.20 | uVRbw | Dr. Huxtable broke into the clinic and held me at gunpoint. I was his patient, in for my yearly pap smear. I couldn't believe it when he came in the door for the exam with a machete in his hands. He demanded that I take off my clothes, and begin to fellate him. He waved the machete around like a madman, so i complied. I was forced, at knife point, to take his entire penis into my mouth. Then I rubbed my clit and got off ohh yeah |
| 16:41.20 | CrHZdfP | ILYAZAYUZIN.......HAHAHAHA...FIRST OFF TELL ME WHERE IV'E BEEN PRAISING VANILLA ICE. SECONDLY STOP ACTING LIKE A RETARD INTERNET THUG AND GET OFF 2 PAC'S NUTSACK YOU 15 YEAR OLD WANNABE WANKSTA.GO LISTEN TO YOUR BONE THUGS AND HARMONY WHILE I STICK SOME 7L AND ESOTERIC ON YOU CHUMP!!!!!PEACE TO THE REAL UNDERGROUND HEADS! 7fCRts |
| 16:41.23 | uVRbw | since blacks have bigger wangs... do black chicks have bigger holes? ieXJ81jT8 |
| 16:41.24 | *** mode/#maemo [+q *!*@web.freenode.*] by DocScrutinizer |
| 16:41.38 | *** join/#maemo Xjo2a97Vy (7d7e4110@gateway/web/freenode/ip.125.126.65.16) |
| 16:41.41 | GAN900 | Ha |
| 16:41.48 | *** join/#maemo punch (~punch-dru@unaffiliated/punch-drunk) |
| 16:42.07 | frals | fuckin hell |
| 16:42.12 | DocScrutinizer | yeah |
| 16:42.12 | mikki-kun | whoah... uhm, what the heck was that?! Ã.ö |
| 16:42.19 | jaska | o.O |
| 16:42.24 | DocScrutinizer | bot attack to web gateway |
| 16:42.34 | mikki-kun | thanks DocScrutinizer for killing them ^^ |
| 16:43.03 | lcuk | ++ DocScrutinizer ta dude |
| 16:43.05 | punch | what is maemo? i saw you post in freeode, so i came here ( nothing bettwr to do) |
| 16:43.15 | DocScrutinizer | we're not thru yet with it, I fear |
| 16:43.37 | mikki-kun | sometimes i wish "SoIP" (Stab over IP) would be finally implemented into the internet protocols... |
| 16:43.44 | lcuk | punch, #maemo is the home of hackers and freespirits mucking around with Nokia N series linux devices N8x0 N900 etc) |
| 16:44.02 | mikki-kun | lcuk: don't forget n770 ;) |
| 16:44.08 | lcuk | Nokia 770 you mean |
| 16:44.09 | lcuk | :) |
| 16:44.21 | punch | oh ok :) |
| 16:44.27 | mikki-kun | oh, it isn't an N-device? :o |
| 16:44.36 | lcuk | predates N series I believe |
| 16:44.56 | DocScrutinizer | sighs |
| 16:44.57 | mikki-kun | ^^ maemo is older than N XD |
| 16:45.06 | lcuk | yes |
| 16:45.35 | DocScrutinizer | should we try join throttle for #maemo? |
| 16:45.41 | mikki-kun | hm, is mencoder part of the mplayer-package? |
| 16:45.41 | lcuk | nahh |
| 16:45.50 | lcuk | or is that per user? |
| 16:46.01 | *** part/#maemo m`` (~Your@granny.slept.with.lenin.ru) |
| 16:46.03 | lcuk | DocScrutinizer, they came from different ips |
| 16:46.06 | punch | after googling, um, the iphone so ripped off this nokia (well, sorta) |
| 16:46.07 | DocScrutinizer | nope that's <x/second for chan |
| 16:46.24 | lcuk | punch, for the longest time the maemo devices were not phones |
| 16:46.31 | mikki-kun | punch: hm, in which way "ripped off"? |
| 16:46.41 | punch | mikki-kun: tiny little net device...lol |
| 16:46.54 | spinningcompass | Has anyone here successfully compiled PyPy for Maemo 4? |
| 16:46.58 | punch | w/ a toucscree |
| 16:47.00 | nox- | ifoo seems to have security issues, pdf reader running as root... |
| 16:47.18 | *** mode/#maemo [-q *!*@web.freenode.*] by DocScrutinizer |
| 16:48.24 | *** join/#maemo BzKSypV5aqA7cO (3cd9f891@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.248.145) |
| 16:48.48 | *** join/#maemo ZrmfMtEDaMpo (3cd9f843@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.248.67) |
| 16:48.51 | BzKSypV5aqA7cO | Well, what else is open? Besides your mouth...when you're like kissing on some gay dude and like holding his muscles, cuz his arms just are like wrapped around you...and you feel like so safe cuz you're like, you know, not like you're gay or nothin' but God you just want to like bury yourself in his chest and just live there forever. M5PSFTKrZquw2 |
| 16:48.53 | ZrmfMtEDaMpo | I thought gmail was, like, gangsta mail. I signed up expecting to get g'd up with bitches, gangstas and guns but it's just an email service. WMWPkFG |
| 16:48.56 | BzKSypV5aqA7cO | NO I SAY PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE SMALL DICKS COS YOU DO BUTT MUNCH YOU DONT EVEN HAVE A NAME YOU SAD FUCK PISS OFF NO ONE WANTS YOU HERE ON THE PLACE OR IN THE WORLD YOU FUCKING JEW NERD HITLER SHOULD HAVE KILLED YOU FUCKING ASS YEARS AGO AND THE REASON YOUR PISSED OFF IS COS THE TRUTH HURTS YOU WHY DONT YOU GO BACK TO WEARING A PINK DRESS AND BEING FUCKED BY YOUR UNCLE YOU LIITLE DRAG QUEEN GO TAKE YOUR FAGGOT SELF AND JUMP OFF |
| 16:48.58 | ZrmfMtEDaMpo | there is a gay guy in my office, and he referred to hemmrhoids as speedbumps dUrqs3CMuVj8 |
| 16:48.59 | frals | DocScrutinizer, again ;-) |
| 16:49.00 | BzKSypV5aqA7cO | Some say that I am the king of trolls. Of course, this is ridiculous because trolls have no king and accept no authority. zqNCGGBOEBa1XO |
| 16:49.02 | ZrmfMtEDaMpo | I've gone and done it again. After shitting on the toilet seat I took a dab of crap and worked it into my hair. Now my bald spot is a uniform brown along with the rest of my hair. I mussed up my hair enough for it to look plausible. I'm back in the conference room now and no one is willing to meet my gaze. I have to clench my stomach to keep from vomiting. My penis throbs with an intense erection. Bxk6A1fyKcLyg6 |
| 16:49.04 | *** join/#maemo Y2Q551qcEoP (c31c3424@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.28.52.36) |
| 16:49.04 | BzKSypV5aqA7cO | Please help me before I fry in the pits of hell. I masterbate several times a day. My parents bought me the anti-erection ring and I deal with the pain just to have that orgasm. I want to be castrated but my parents tell me I am to old. They say that at 14 years old i will not be able to handle being castrated. But they are wrong. FNPLMAhdnAz |
| 16:49.05 | ZrmfMtEDaMpo | why dont you install a real OS and make some room in your head using the space you have to devote to remembering the 100000 ways to parse a text file in linux (with zero ways to get any actual work done) MijZyblh |
| 16:49.08 | BzKSypV5aqA7cO | one time i killed this hippie and scraped the resin off his lungs and i died of a weed overdose 7pzSRSnCXcCV |
| 16:49.09 | ZrmfMtEDaMpo | Watermelon represents the ripe breasts of white women which the negro wishes to rape, while the green color represents the money he wishes to steal. The dark bands on the melon represent the bars of a jail cell, the negro's ultimate destination. llfnt5Uyk2 |
| 16:49.10 | *** mode/#maemo [+q *!*@web.freenode.*] by DocScrutinizer |
| 16:49.12 | ZrmfMtEDaMpo | Linux is illegal! You are breaking the law, and hurting yourself and your family with your ILLEGAL SOFTWARE. Your ip has been noted and is being forwarded to the SPA with a reccomendation that they investigate your CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. Please destroy all your unpatriotic linux software before you are arrested! 4kzE61Nv2im |
| 16:49.13 | lcuk | concerted efforts underway |
| 16:49.15 | ZrmfMtEDaMpo | Once, when i was changing my little brother's diaper, i jacked him off. I don't know what drove me to do it, but I did. now i can't stop thinking about his little penis. I think i want him to grow up and fuck me. FLxTEGW |
| 16:49.58 | *** join/#maemo uG5RUXiKcd (ca6c3248@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.108.50.72) |
| 16:50.12 | mikki-kun | i think it's the best to just leave that ban for web.freenode active for at least a day... |
| 16:50.13 | lcuk | :S :( |
| 16:50.15 | uG5RUXiKcd | i just took a shit and my toilet didn't really flush, i got pretty frustrated and now im going to masturbate to internet porn galleries. Good day to you. FgAwwi4QQzx |
| 16:50.18 | *** join/#maemo h3DKSxenv (7cc16136@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.193.97.54) |
| 16:50.20 | lcuk | ill just leave, bbl |
| 16:50.21 | uG5RUXiKcd | hi my names jimmy and im 13 and the other day i was playing with myself while watching showcase and i realised i couldnt quite reach my fireman with my mouth. so what i did was i took a small straw and shoved it down my urethra. and i started to blow really hard.. now i have a small bubble like figure on the side of my fireman.. could this be from blowing into the straw??? YFDS6E8Ww |
| 16:50.25 | h3DKSxenv | ASIANS FUCKING SUCK THERE EVERY WHERE DOWN IN SYDNEY FUCKING OVEL EYED GOOKS. WENT DOWN TO CHINA TOWN 2 WEEKS AGO BASHED A COUPLE OF THE DICKHEADS.THE PROBLEM IS THEY BREED LIKE RABBITS THEY JUST GO ROUND FUCKING, SPITTING OUT BABYS AND SPREADING THEIR CHICKEN FLU AROUND DAMN FILTHY ASIANS. 88 HAIL HITLER SKINHEADS FOREVER HNMsYxlLuEO |
| 16:50.26 | uG5RUXiKcd | MMMM........mmmm i'm abit confusing right now......why will they eat their own poo-poo where it smell so terrible? Actually, mushu is very good in her toilet training. She'll only pee & poo on the newspaper i prepared for her. But she eats it when i'm away! After i beat her twice, she seems to bark at the poo first before she goes near it. Then she'll smell it & play with it. Then she'll put everything into her mouth!!!!! Yucks!!! |
| 16:50.29 | h3DKSxenv | listen you fucking shit skinned coon nigger jungle bunny spear chucker. Shut your chocolate tar baby hide before I whip your ass. go back to niggeria and prance around with all the Schvartza in the bush you fucking moolie nigger. ill fucking brand you toby, and if you try any of that KUNTA KINTA crap ill fucking execute you and feed you to pigs. tglyLEQlx4 |
| 16:50.31 | uG5RUXiKcd | Computers affect almost every aspect of our lives, from driving to alarm clocks to music to refridgerators to our leisure time to our social lives to ad nauseum. These things are intertwined with our lives in ways that are often unnoticed, yet they affect us directly - so directly that I think that when we are talking about the latest Mac product, we're not talking about a "product" but about a way of life. Uhe4ff |
| 16:50.35 | uG5RUXiKcd | A note to the idiot who keeps sending me anonymous emails claiming to have "f*cked" my mother: 1) Do you really think i don't have your IP address and have a relatively good idea of who you are? 2) Do you really think I care about your weird sexual fantasies? 3) Have you even SEEN my mother? HAHAHA 4) Keep it up. The messages are being logged, stored and passed on to the relevant authorities and, of course, your ISP... 5) I know wh |
| 16:50.43 | *** kick/#maemo [uG5RUXiKcd!~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg] by DocScrutinizer (WTF?!) |
| 16:50.53 | *** join/#maemo rVX2wt (3cd9f993@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.249.147) |
| 16:51.08 | *** part/#maemo ukki (~user@a88-85-140-121.mpynet.fi) |
| 16:51.11 | rVX2wt | Thank you for giving me a glimpse into the wonderfully vivid and imaginative world that you occupy. I feel...honored...to say the least. Words can not express my gratitude that you would grant upon us put a peephole into the glorious universe that you are so priviledged to occupy from 9-5 every single weekday. I am envious but I know it is because God has favored you above me...you are TRULY worthy. 69UVcpeP8Uxfj |
| 16:51.19 | *** kick/#maemo [rVX2wt!~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg] by DocScrutinizer (WTF?!) |
| 16:51.42 | *** join/#maemo Dzippmo8 (3cd9f843@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.248.67) |
| 16:51.46 | *** join/#maemo nfTcZvqui (7b7d9c84@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.125.156.132) |
| 16:51.50 | *** mode/#maemo [+q *!*@gateway/web/freenode.*] by DocScrutinizer |
| 16:51.52 | *** join/#maemo vvqQk (3cd9f88d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.248.141) |
| 16:51.53 | nfTcZvqui | you don't understand,you don't realise that the internet is a form of communicating and it's just as serious as talking in person or on a phone. Stop with the bullshit. eummhUbUwi |
| 16:51.57 | *** join/#maemo Ld1FD07 (3cd9f851@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.248.81) |
| 16:51.57 | nfTcZvqui | randomd's songs: Niggers Niggers, our dark skinned friends. If they're not out working, they'll rape your girlfriend! For jail's their domain, they're society's bane-- Let's hear it for our friend the Nigger! Linux, linux, it's free as in beer. But if you installed it, you're a goddamn queer! To clear up your pimples, the solutions quite simple-- Just take a bath and use a face wash! Jews, jews, their noses are long. They've got t |
| 16:51.59 | *** join/#maemo NgO6fG2Felqq (3cd9e825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.232.37) |
| 16:51.59 | vvqQk | If your daughter listens to hip hop music, you should caution her against taking MDMA, commonly known as ecstasy if she plans to go to hip hop concerts or hip hop clubs. As everyone knows, when you add E to rap, you get RAPE. nRLJ26aZbhOTh5 |
| 16:52.00 | *** mode/#maemo [+q *!*@gateway/web/freenode*] by DocScrutinizer |
| 16:52.04 | DocScrutinizer | fsck |
| 16:52.17 | *** join/#maemo Yh06qTtO3sA (3cd9e825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.232.37) |
| 16:52.29 | *** mode/#maemo [-q *!*@gateway/web/freenode.*] by DocScrutinizer |
| 16:52.31 | svuorela | kloeri: ping! |
| 16:52.41 | *** mode/#maemo [-q *!*@web.freenode.*] by DocScrutinizer |
| 16:53.04 | *** join/#maemo xDaReaperx (~chatzilla@117.198.245.217) |
| 16:53.10 | xDaReaperx | hi |
| 16:53.17 | DocScrutinizer | hi |
| 16:53.23 | xDaReaperx | i'm having problems connecting to wifi |
| 16:53.24 | mikki-kun | btw, where does the "q" derive from? |
| 16:53.34 | frals | quiet? ;D |
| 16:53.36 | DocScrutinizer | err? |
| 16:53.40 | xDaReaperx | it says cannot receive ip from server |
| 16:53.49 | xDaReaperx | on the n900 |
| 16:54.36 | xDaReaperx | i've tried all types of security , even withouth security but it wont connect to wifi on my router |
| 16:55.10 | xDaReaperx | :( |
| 16:55.20 | *** join/#maemo Poka64 (~peter@hd5e2754d.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) |
| 16:55.45 | korhojoa | what the hell is going on :D |
| 16:56.44 | xDaReaperx | i'm on 802.11B/G network |
| 16:57.04 | *** join/#maemo keesj (~keesj@ip49-193-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 16:57.09 | mikki-kun | hm, maybe your IP-address pool is out of IP-addresses |
| 16:57.22 | mikki-kun | and what about mac-filtering? enabled? |
| 16:57.27 | *** mode/#maemo [+q ~a *!*@web.freenode.*] by DocScrutinizer |
| 16:57.42 | xDaReaperx | mac filering is enabled i think |
| 16:57.50 | xDaReaperx | i added my mobiles Wifi mac address to it also |
| 16:57.54 | xDaReaperx | but it still wont work |
| 16:58.08 | xDaReaperx | i white listed my N900's WiFi mac address |
| 16:58.32 | mikki-kun | hm, you're sure you didn't accidently take the bluetooth's mac? |
| 16:58.58 | xDaReaperx | no i didn't |
| 16:58.59 | xDaReaperx | i'm sure |
| 16:59.11 | mikki-kun | it happened to me that i kinda mixed up bt and wifi ^^' |
| 16:59.20 | *** join/#maemo punch (~punch-dru@unaffiliated/punch-drunk) |
| 16:59.23 | xDaReaperx | i checked it 3-4 times now |
| 16:59.26 | xDaReaperx | its correct |
| 16:59.40 | *** join/#maemo nox-- (noident@p5B1049CC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:59.47 | *** mode/#maemo [-q *!*@gateway/web/freenode*] by DocScrutinizer |
| 16:59.56 | mikki-kun | hm... ok... and even without any kind of password it didn't work? |
| 17:00.09 | xDaReaperx | yes it dosent |
| 17:00.17 | DocScrutinizer | GAN900: ping? |
| 17:00.23 | xDaReaperx | without setting encryption for WiFi , it says : Network error |
| 17:00.36 | xDaReaperx | or else it says Cannot recieve IP address from server with password |
| 17:00.44 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG51: ping |
| 17:01.00 | DocScrutinizer | lcukn900: +o? |
| 17:01.10 | *** join/#maemo fOiH2qU (3cd9f853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.248.83) |
| 17:01.45 | fOiH2qU | you don't understand,you don't realise that the internet is a form of communicating and it's just as serious as talking in person or on a phone. Stop with the bullshit. fqml2puxc |
| 17:01.49 | DocScrutinizer | meh, dinner. ping me frequently if shit hits the fan |
| 17:01.52 | fOiH2qU | Did you know? Timothy McVeigh conspired with Terry Nichols to destroy the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building by exchanging messages using the popular "Bit Torrent" internet program, which quickly and anonymously allows users to exchange large volumes of confidential documents. 5nToqmh81hd |
| 17:01.56 | *** join/#maemo U4QxsGbLg0p3 (3cd9f89a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.248.154) |
| 17:01.57 | *** join/#maemo x7k2PD (3cd9e82e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.217.232.46) |
| 17:01.59 | fOiH2qU | I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it. OTuHYQulyW |
| 17:02.02 | U4QxsGbLg0p3 | I bet you think you're actually amusing. You were giggling to yourself as you typed that line out, and are eagerly staring at your screen hoping that someone will give you a zany quip in reply. Go on, you can laugh. It's okay. Just remember that you're the only one who thought that comment was in any way entertaining. gTFWbX9XR |
| 17:02.02 | fOiH2qU | Rory touched my virgin junk liberally. He strapped me into his Trans Am and told me we were taking a detour on the way back from the prom. I could not believe what the fuck was going on. He vomited red many times as he had been drinking heavily. I told him the athletic staff would not approve of the star quarterback falling asleep inside an underage girl. There it is. My dad found us at makeout ridge. I've got to go. 25wh0GRLH |
| 17:02.04 | x7k2PD | guys do you know when tupac is coming home? Im worried about him. He wears a bulletproof vest so he usually is safe. but i made supper for him and he hasnt come home yet! his potatoes and shake n baked chicken are starting to get cold! gmFk84FciC |
| 17:02.05 | *** kick/#maemo [fOiH2qU!~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg] by DocScrutinizer (WTF?!) |
| 17:02.06 | U4QxsGbLg0p3 | Nigerians make me so mad I wish someone would round them all up and send them to a country where people starve and get gunned down in the street 5NKBJ1yzk |
| 17:02.08 | x7k2PD | Nigger? So you think you are superior not only because you're white! it's because you read! ha! I didn't know they were people like you in this website, and I hope you learn more about our people, because I'm very ofended now. Racism is illegal, you know? if they were enough technologies to know who is behind that "anonymus", no doubt you would be behind bars now! Please respect others, even if they don't like reading like you do. |
| 17:02.11 | frals | DocScrutinizer, shit hit the fan :p |
| 17:02.14 | x7k2PD | I'm gambling that Apple is expecting to keep profit margins up by keeping return/repair rates extremely low by using quality components XQ7vWfi71VmP |
| 17:02.18 | DocScrutinizer | fusck! |
| 17:02.20 | x7k2PD | Doesn't matter. Once the US housing bubble collapses there will be a total economic collapse. Companies like Netflix and Amazon will go bankrupt as Americans just try to save enough for food Hpl8T |
| 17:02.27 | *** mode/#maemo [+q *!*@gateway/web/freenode*] by DocScrutinizer |
| 17:02.52 | frals | just leave the quiet on for a while |
| 17:03.00 | xDaReaperx | anyone gonna help me with my WiFi connection issue ? |
| 17:03.06 | DocScrutinizer | wonder what's wrong with the ~a |
| 17:03.40 | DocScrutinizer | aaarghh |
| 17:03.55 | *** join/#maemo retro|cz (~retry2@125.151.broadband3.iol.cz) |
| 17:04.44 | punch | xDaReaperx: w hats up with your wifi |
| 17:05.04 | *** mode/#maemo [+o frals] by ChanServ |
| 17:05.06 | xDaReaperx | >it says cannot receive ip from server |
| 17:05.33 | xDaReaperx | tried all securities , even without security password , added MAC filter to white list my WiFi Mac address for my N900 |
| 17:05.37 | xDaReaperx | still no idea |
| 17:05.47 | mikki-kun | xDaReaperx: i am a lil out of ideas tbh... |
| 17:06.23 | MiXu- | xDaReaperx: Can you try another access point? |
| 17:06.30 | *** join/#maemo noctule (~noctule@5e00a3c1.bb.sky.com) |
| 17:06.44 | *** mode/#maemo [+q $~a] by DocScrutinizer |
| 17:06.44 | MiXu- | I had a similar issue at home with a Nexus One, that crap of a phone. |
| 17:06.49 | *** mode/#maemo [-q $~a] by DocScrutinizer |
| 17:07.18 | MiXu- | Gave up, since it wasn't mine anyway. |
| 17:07.24 | xDaReaperx | well yeah , i can connect to my old access point in another country , but i moved to another place now , so there's no other access points here ATM |
| 17:07.31 | xDaReaperx | this issue was also happening with other WiFi |
| 17:07.38 | GAN900 | DocScrutinizer, at work, can't play officer on watch. :P |
| 17:07.40 | xDaReaperx | even when i first bought the phone |
| 17:07.46 | DocScrutinizer | GAN900: k |
| 17:08.17 | *** join/#maemo lcukn900 (~lcuk@82.132.139.167) |
| 17:08.38 | *** mode/#maemo [+o lcukn900] by ChanServ |
| 17:09.05 | mikki-kun | xDaReaperx: maybe your wifi could be in some way broken |
| 17:09.25 | xDaReaperx | do you mean my Mobiles WiFi detector ? |
| 17:09.28 | xDaReaperx | or my WiFi modem ? |
| 17:09.40 | mikki-kun | the n900's wifi |
| 17:09.44 | DocScrutinizer | any other volunteers? please /query me |
| 17:09.48 | mikki-kun | if you even had the issue before |
| 17:09.50 | xDaReaperx | does that ever happen ? |
| 17:10.15 | RST38h | moos woefully |
| 17:10.17 | *** join/#maemo spinningcompass (~hugo@adsl-99-88-73-12.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:10.34 | xDaReaperx | if my N900's wifi was broken , how does it still detect WiFi points ? |
| 17:10.42 | mikki-kun | well, sometimes a contact so isn't really working... once it happened that my wifi of my netbook turned itself off from the bios-level while i was just using it Ã.ö no idea why that happened |
| 17:10.46 | MiXu- | Haven't heard of it happening to anyone but anything is possible |
| 17:10.56 | RST38h | WTF with all these headhunters wanting to stay in touch via LinkedIn? |
| 17:11.09 | xDaReaperx | hmm ok |
| 17:11.22 | mikki-kun | maybe search for some open hotspots |
| 17:11.24 | MiXu- | RST38h: Yeah, tell me about it :P |
| 17:11.25 | xDaReaperx | i have some way to prove my wifi is borken or not |
| 17:11.30 | mikki-kun | ask some friends or comrades |
| 17:11.31 | xDaReaperx | i can create a hotspot using my laptop |
| 17:11.37 | MiXu- | You could also try reflashing if you don't want to take it straight to the service. |
| 17:11.38 | xDaReaperx | on Windows |
| 17:11.41 | xDaReaperx | using broadband |
| 17:11.44 | DocScrutinizer | headunters RST38h |
| 17:11.49 | *** mode/#maemo [+o RST38h] by ChanServ |
| 17:11.52 | RST38h | MiXu: Are they any useful? |
| 17:11.55 | MiXu- | Yeah, try that. |
| 17:11.59 | mikki-kun | MiXu-: good idea, could help :) |
| 17:12.06 | xDaReaperx | like a ad-hoc network |
| 17:12.13 | RST38h | thanks for the op, may come handy one time or the other |
| 17:12.18 | MiXu- | RST38h: Haven't been in contact to any, since I'm not interested in changing jobs at the moment :) |
| 17:12.33 | MiXu- | Just started 3 months ago in my current one |
| 17:12.44 | frals | im not getting headhunted on linkedin, bah! ;) |
| 17:12.52 | RST38h | MiXu: Well, I am always looking for better opportunities, but NYC financial district isn't my idea of a healthy workplace |
| 17:12.58 | frals | otoh im v. happy where i am :p |
| 17:13.06 | MiXu- | :) |
| 17:13.09 | *** join/#maemo Scifi (~sudheer@c-98-207-170-113.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 17:13.24 | MiXu- | RST38h: hehe |
| 17:13.53 | MiXu- | Since I stated that I'm a MeeGo professional I've received a few emails from headhunters |
| 17:14.07 | *** join/#maemo madhav (~Administr@122.172.10.32) |
| 17:14.07 | RST38h | Ah, and a professional group invitation: This is a group dedicated to IBM APL2,COBOL,Cognos,FORTRAN,MAS,ADA,XL Series,Hour Glass,Rational HATS,Visual Age,Websphere,Rational Dashboard,Systems Tester,TTCN Suite, professionals globally. |
| 17:14.15 | RST38h | WHAT? THE? FUCK? |
| 17:14.38 | Stskeeps | rational hats? |
| 17:14.51 | RST38h | unconsciously makes strangling gestures every time he hears of Rational |
| 17:15.19 | MiXu- | Irrational hats |
| 17:15.38 | MiXu- | Not my favorite either :) |
| 17:16.27 | MiXu- | The first two apps that come to mind when talking about IBM are Lotus Notes and Rational whatever. And I hate them both :) |
| 17:16.45 | RST38h | has been spared from having to use Lotus Notes |
| 17:16.57 | MiXu- | I even had the misfortune of developing stuff on Notes. |
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| 17:22.06 | *** topic/#maemo by DocScrutinizer -> Welcome to #maemo | http://maemo.org/ | http://maemo.nokia.com/ | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org/ | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Free software mirror: http://espejo.freemoe.org/ -||- Sorry, gateway/web/freenode users! We had to +q you due to bot spam from web gateway. Please register to post |
| 17:22.42 | DocScrutinizer | anybody still alive? |
| 17:22.46 | DocScrutinizer | ~ping |
| 17:22.46 | infobot | ~pong |
| 17:23.15 | xDaReaperx | i am |
| 17:23.24 | DocScrutinizer | ok |
| 17:23.28 | DocScrutinizer | :-) |
| 17:23.30 | Scifi | Hello |
| 17:23.32 | Stskeeps | kill all humans |
| 17:23.42 | xDaReaperx | lol |
| 17:23.43 | DocScrutinizer | kill all bots |
| 17:23.56 | DocScrutinizer | esp spambots |
| 17:24.02 | DocScrutinizer | :-( |
| 17:24.05 | xDaReaperx | wait by any ways how can your mobiles WiFi break ? |
| 17:24.15 | hjack | lol, comeon, you love them |
| 17:24.20 | hjack | heh |
| 17:24.45 | Scifi | I want to show a message during package install. Is there any wiki/guide anywhere for that? |
| 17:25.52 | Scifi | Mixu: Was a Notes Developer myself :) Small world I guess |
| 17:26.28 | DocScrutinizer | Scifi: dbus notify |
| 17:26.56 | Scifi | I need OK or Done button |
| 17:27.12 | DocScrutinizer | shrugs |
| 17:27.45 | SpeedEvil | Scifi: zentiy |
| 17:27.47 | DocScrutinizer | dbus yesno? |
| 17:27.49 | SpeedEvil | zentiy |
| 17:27.50 | RST38h | wonders once again if he should take a look at the cell writer package |
| 17:27.51 | SpeedEvil | zenity |
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| 17:28.33 | DocScrutinizer | zenity no base pkg afaik |
| 17:28.44 | xDaReaperx | mikki-kun : tried the ad-hoc network without security , it works fine and my n900 connects to it and i can browse |
| 17:28.46 | Scifi | DocScrutinizer: I used Maemo style banners with dbus notify but not sure abt dialog box. |
| 17:28.58 | Scifi | SpeedEvil: Will check zenity |
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| 17:29.27 | mikki-kun | hm, then it is most probably a problem with your router i assume |
| 17:30.26 | Jaffa | Af'noon all |
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| 17:31.27 | SpeedEvil | Afternoon. |
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| 17:31.54 | RST38h | http://www.brewdog.com/uploaded_images/brewdog_taxidermy211_534.jpg |
| 17:32.51 | *** mode/#maemo [-q ~a *!*@web.freenode.*] by DocScrutinizer |
| 17:32.59 | MiXu- | Strongest beer in the world |
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| 17:33.20 | SpeedEvil | is reminded of http://www.instructables.com/id/Mouse-Mouse!/ |
| 17:33.21 | MiXu- | They only made like 20 of those |
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| 17:35.30 | trumee | guys, how does N900 respond to dns request. My N900 over wifi is not resolving dns anymore |
| 17:35.59 | trumee | The /etc/resolv.conf contains 127.0.0.1. Strangely, dns works in 3g |
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| 17:36.51 | MiXu- | have you changed the AP settings in N900? |
| 17:36.54 | DocScrutinizer | trumee: 127001 correct |
| 17:36.59 | MiXu- | There's a place for you to put in a DNS server address |
| 17:37.07 | MiXu- | If it's empty it uses whatever the router provides |
| 17:37.21 | trumee | MiXu-: no i havent changed the AP settings |
| 17:37.39 | MiXu- | how about router settings? |
| 17:38.10 | trumee | MiXu-: havent touched the router. and i have already powercycled the router |
| 17:38.13 | MiXu- | Double check those |
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| 17:38.27 | trumee | MiXu-: N900 has Auto-retrieve DNS set |
| 17:38.33 | johnsq | Hi |
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| 17:40.03 | lcuk | peeks out from behind the sofa |
| 17:40.20 | ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer, done any more than one learning cycle on your phone? |
| 17:40.46 | trumee | i have changed the DNS to 8.8.8.8 (google) |
| 17:41.02 | trumee | and now ping www.google.com hangs |
| 17:41.16 | trumee | ok, it gave bad address |
| 17:43.04 | trumee | ah, now it works |
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| 17:43.21 | trumee | somehow the route -n had the wrong ip address |
| 17:46.29 | DocScrutinizer | trumee: 8.8.8.8 ??? :-o You're nuts |
| 17:46.42 | trumee | DocScrutinizer: why? |
| 17:47.08 | DocScrutinizer | trumee: google is storing ALL your moves in web then |
| 17:47.46 | trumee | DocScrutinizer: well, it was a quick check. and now i am back to my isp dns |
| 17:48.01 | DocScrutinizer | aah |
| 17:48.18 | lcuk | on planet.gnome.org jono bacons avatar looks like he is taking a dump |
| 17:48.32 | lcuk | am i the only one to notice this? |
| 17:48.46 | spinningcompass | lcuk: Perhaps he segfaulted |
| 17:48.56 | DocScrutinizer | bacon?? |
| 17:49.01 | luke-jr | trumee: you want your ISP to track you? |
| 17:49.36 | lcuk | DocScrutinizer, yes |
| 17:50.00 | DocScrutinizer | I got a prety good idea WHY you noticed that |
| 17:50.23 | DocScrutinizer | lcuk: is that pathological? |
| 17:50.25 | trumee | luke-jr: so i shoud run my own dns server!! |
| 17:50.33 | DocScrutinizer | that fixation on bacon I mean |
| 17:50.44 | DocScrutinizer | :-P |
| 17:50.46 | lcuk | DocScrutinizer, nahh coincidence |
| 17:50.57 | DocScrutinizer | hahaha |
| 17:51.01 | lcuk | but bacon does sound good, i might go and get some |
| 17:52.16 | lcuk | DocScrutinizer, you made lcukn900 an op o_O |
| 17:52.22 | lcuk | i didn't even know it was in here |
| 17:52.37 | lcuk | finds his n900 |
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| 17:53.05 | *** mode/#maemo [+o MohammadAG] by ChanServ |
| 17:53.48 | *** mode/#maemo [+o lcuk] by ChanServ |
| 17:53.48 | *** mode/#maemo [+o lcuk] by lcukn900 |
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| 17:53.54 | *** mode/#maemo [-o lcukn900] by lcuk |
| 17:54.12 | lcuk | would be more sensible if required |
| 17:54.22 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 17:54.34 | lcuk | seems to have quietened down though? |
| 17:55.01 | DocScrutinizer | +q did it, it seems - though no more chan joins even |
| 17:55.55 | DocScrutinizer | maybe those bots are so smart to detect +q? |
| 17:56.26 | DocScrutinizer | skiddies bahhh! |
| 17:56.28 | lcuk | nahh but their botmaster may well be idling |
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| 17:58.48 | Scifi | DocScrutinizer: I am going with Dbus Notification SystemNoteDialog to display the message. Doesn't look great but works. |
| 17:59.10 | DocScrutinizer | Scifi: mhm :) |
| 18:00.19 | DocScrutinizer | anybody with a more text oriented irc client could please check for me how many regular users from gateway/web (=cloak*) are in here? |
| 18:00.37 | Scifi | SpeedEvil: Don't want to install an extra package (zenity) for a one-time message. But it definitely is very useful |
| 18:00.38 | lcuk | DocScrutinizer, how would it be checked? |
| 18:00.43 | Scifi | Thanks everyone |
| 18:01.06 | DocScrutinizer | list-users|grep gateway/web ? |
| 18:01.45 | DocScrutinizer | Scifi: welcome |
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| 18:01.48 | lcuk | DocScrutinizer, ok list-users? thats not a direct command is it - I have xchat so don't see stuff like that? |
| 18:02.20 | mikki-kun | DocScrutinizer so you want basically a userlist with all their IPs? |
| 18:02.24 | DocScrutinizer | I got xchat as well, but wouldn't see how to do it at all without xchat script |
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| 18:02.33 | SpeedEvil | Scifi: fair enough - it's a teeny package - but... |
| 18:02.44 | DocScrutinizer | mikki-kun: a simple number of users fine for now |
| 18:03.12 | mikki-kun | well, i have a nicklist here... i could copy/paste it to pastebin |
| 18:03.22 | DocScrutinizer | fine with me |
| 18:03.34 | DocScrutinizer | if it has cloaks |
| 18:03.46 | DocScrutinizer | aka hostnames |
| 18:03.57 | DocScrutinizer | aka IP |
| 18:04.51 | mikki-kun | hm, i'll look deeper into irssi to see whether it has that implemented with the command |
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| 18:06.17 | DocScrutinizer | a shame Konversation doesn't support highlighting users in userlist by mask (=regex) |
| 18:07.18 | mikki-kun | i think i can get a list... but i am not sure if that is really the correct way so please bear with me when something goes wrong ^^''' |
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| 18:07.36 | DocScrutinizer | no worries - lol |
| 18:08.11 | DocScrutinizer | what could go wrong after all? |
| 18:08.25 | SpeedEvil | watches as freenode catches fire. |
| 18:08.28 | mikki-kun | ok, i think i have a full list ^^ how should i send it? |
| 18:08.37 | DocScrutinizer | pastebin? |
| 18:08.40 | Poka64 | is it possible to fix the color issue in the x terminal on n900? I have to use a purple background right now if I want to be able to use irssi with theme I'm using.. |
| 18:09.01 | DocScrutinizer | hihihihi |
| 18:09.24 | DocScrutinizer | hanah montana xterm |
| 18:09.48 | spinningcompass | DocScrutinizer: Let me guess. Does Perez Hilton try to catch it with its private interface exposed? |
| 18:10.03 | Poka64 | DocScrutinizer: :) |
| 18:10.34 | Poka64 | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2559711/pics/Screenshot-20100709-203033.png |
| 18:10.35 | lcuk | Poka64, are youby chance using the hannah montana theme? |
| 18:10.42 | Poka64 | no |
| 18:10.56 | lcuk | screensaver? |
| 18:10.57 | mikki-kun | hm, meh, it need to save the log... brb |
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| 18:12.00 | lcuk | DocScrutinizer, to technically get some raw states, grep logs for "*(*) has joined #maemo" |
| 18:12.03 | lcuk | its not perfect |
| 18:12.20 | lcuk | but at least should give you the numbers you need |
| 18:12.28 | DocScrutinizer | feasible, but ugly |
| 18:12.28 | lcuk | raw stats even |
| 18:12.31 | lcuk | sure |
| 18:13.08 | DocScrutinizer | I'm a lazy dog |
| 18:13.47 | DocScrutinizer | still gasping from shock with those bots :-D |
| 18:14.41 | lcuk | yeah werent nice |
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| 18:17.43 | *** topic/#maemo by DocScrutinizer -> Welcome to #maemo -||- Sorry, gateway/web/freenode users! We had to +q you due to bot spam from web gateway. Please register to post | http://maemo.org/ | http://maemo.nokia.com/ | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org/ | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Free software mirror: http://espejo.freemoe.org/ |
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| 18:21.50 | spinningcompass | OK. So, I've mounted four 512MB swap files on my micro-SD card to give me enough virtual RAM to compile PyPy on my N810 because the Scratchbox toolchain keeps segfaulting (QEMU doesn't like me, I guess). Let's see if it finishes compiling before December. |
| 18:22.10 | mikki-kun | meh... how does it log that thing to a file? Ã.ö |
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| 18:23.54 | mikki-kun | seems somebody killed that way >.< meh, but i have the list... will copy paste it by hand then... |
| 18:28.06 | johnsq | spinningcompass: take the developer their 12 core and 64gb ram rig away, than they are forced to write better and more resource friendly software |
| 18:28.54 | Stskeeps | spinningcompass: consider looking into building it for armv5 meego instead |
| 18:29.12 | Stskeeps | qemu's newer, toolchain saner.. |
| 18:29.13 | Stskeeps | :P |
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| 18:30.25 | spinningcompass | Stskeeps: Thank you for that. Would you know off-hand whether or not the binaries generated by meego's armv5 toolchain are backwards-compatible with earlier versions of the ARM CPU? |
| 18:30.39 | spinningcompass | Then again, Google is my bestest buddy. :) |
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| 18:32.39 | Poka64 | this is why I have to use purple background in the x terminal. http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=719761&postcount=7 |
| 18:34.34 | Stskeeps | spinningcompass: n810 is armv6+vfp :) |
| 18:34.42 | Stskeeps | spinningcompass: part of the pypy team? |
| 18:37.04 | DocScrutinizer | a friendly notice by your equally friendly chanop: |
| 18:37.05 | DocScrutinizer | [2010-08-07 20:31:14] <tomaw> DocScrutinizer: you probably don't need mode changes now as we've modified the web gateway to require a captcha before allowing connections |
| 18:37.07 | DocScrutinizer | [2010-08-07 20:32:06] <DocScrutinizer> haha, two days ago I've been told here my suggestion to use captcha won't fly - well nice tto hear id actually did nevertheless |
| 18:37.08 | DocScrutinizer | [2010-08-07 20:32:37] <tomaw> DocScrutinizer: not sure who told you that, but it wasn't someone that knew it was being looked into clearly :) |
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| 18:40.16 | *** mode/#maemo [-q *!*@gateway/web/freenode*] by DocScrutinizer |
| 18:40.30 | mikki-kun | let's see when the fun again starts ^^ |
| 18:41.48 | *** topic/#maemo by DocScrutinizer -> Welcome to #maemo | http://maemo.nokia.com/ | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org/ | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Free software mirror: http://espejo.freemoe.org/ |
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| 18:45.17 | DocScrutinizer | well, *IF* 'fun' starts again, then a quick /mode #maemo +q *!*@gateway/web/freenode* should do |
| 18:45.29 | DocScrutinizer | by any of the chanops |
| 18:46.01 | lcuk | roger! |
| 18:46.15 | lcuk | is fighting an upset stomach tho |
| 18:46.39 | DocScrutinizer | as well |
| 18:46.48 | _llll_ | another way is channel mode +r (iirc) which requires people to register before joining |
| 18:46.49 | DocScrutinizer | time for dinner now |
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| 18:47.08 | spinningcompass | lcuk: Get well soon |
| 18:47.18 | lcuk | _llll_, sure, but that always causes complications |
| 18:47.34 | lcuk | thanks spinningcompass |
| 18:47.59 | lcuk | i cant remember what I was going to do now |
| 18:48.12 | _llll_ | dont like to be snobbish, but people that cant figure out how to identify usually arnt worth the effort |
| 18:48.12 | lcuk | I tihnk it was something related to liqbook |
| 18:48.58 | lcuk | _llll_, its not just the effort, I have 2 accounts here and only 1 is registered |
| 18:49.13 | lcukn900 | meh |
| 18:49.26 | _llll_ | that one is identified... |
| 18:49.49 | lcuk | really! gosh how did I manage that I wonder |
| 18:50.01 | lcuk | it wasn't last time we banned them |
| 18:50.22 | _llll_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.25 | _llll_ | no idea! |
| 18:50.48 | lcuk | shrugs |
| 18:51.12 | lcuk | needs more coffee |
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| 18:59.31 | DocScrutinizer | sorry got disconnected (neighbour probably messing up my router via WLAN) |
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| 19:05.21 | mikki-kun | how come he can do that? |
| 19:06.27 | DocScrutinizer | he asked for account |
| 19:06.39 | DocScrutinizer | 2h ago |
| 19:06.43 | DocScrutinizer | :-P |
| 19:07.05 | DocScrutinizer | winVista with butload of tryware |
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| 19:16.07 | nox- | you are brave :) |
| 19:16.49 | nox- | wonders if the vista is already infected now and the malware messed with the router... |
| 19:17.00 | DocScrutinizer | lcukn900: /msg nickserv id lcuk <passwd>; /msg nickserv group |
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| 19:17.46 | DocScrutinizer | the problem with +q $~a is it doesn't allow to change nick anymore, or somesuch |
| 19:18.22 | nox- | oh yeah i have to leave several #s before being able to /nick after getting disconnected... |
| 19:18.23 | DocScrutinizer | nox-: Exactly what I thought |
| 19:19.06 | mikki-kun | hm, what is a very cpu-intensive task for maemo and the n900? wanna check if my limits i found out for my custom voltages are performing stable |
| 19:19.10 | DocScrutinizer | even experienced users go confused over that |
| 19:19.15 | nox- | i hope you dont have windows boxen in your lan or else they may now be infected too... |
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| 19:19.44 | DocScrutinizer | mikki-kun: while true; do :; done |
| 19:20.06 | DocScrutinizer | mikki-kun: don't do that as root! :-D |
| 19:20.15 | DantonicN800 | :( |
| 19:20.16 | mikki-kun | hm, should i make a timer as well for that? |
| 19:20.31 | mikki-kun | so that it does that for 1 minute or so? |
| 19:20.50 | nox- | you can just ^c it after a min |
| 19:20.54 | DocScrutinizer | nox-: redmond crap? *meeee*? |
| 19:21.05 | nox- | DocScrutinizer, :) |
| 19:21.31 | nox- | only has some VMs here but they usually are not running |
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| 19:21.56 | nox- | still i wouldnt want to let a possibly infected box in my lan... :) |
| 19:22.10 | mikki-kun | thanks :) i had once a couple of tasks ^C didn't kill |
| 19:22.25 | DocScrutinizer | got some winXP partition collecting dust, for extreme cases |
| 19:22.45 | nox- | ah true that i have too |
| 19:22.59 | nox- | but VMs are usually more useful |
| 19:23.34 | DocScrutinizer | usually when I really need that crap, then it's not working in a VM :-S |
| 19:23.41 | nox- | heh |
| 19:23.58 | mikki-kun | so, i am running a flash-vid fullscreen while the "while true" things goes in the background.. |
| 19:24.05 | DocScrutinizer | like that MentorGraphics PADS :-O.'.. |
| 19:24.10 | mikki-kun | that should strech the poor cpu and the gpu as well |
| 19:24.36 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 19:24.52 | lcuk | mikki-kun, does flash use the gpu? |
| 19:25.09 | mikki-kun | hm... doesn't it? |
| 19:25.22 | DocScrutinizer | seems nobody but maybe timeless knows :-D |
| 19:25.23 | lcuk | i am asking you |
| 19:25.42 | mikki-kun | ahh, that was the vp8 thing... so it should be html5 and not adobe flash |
| 19:25.44 | lcuk | needs to go walkabout but stomach hurting |
| 19:26.04 | lcuk | damn bwling chips or not enough coffee/drinks before going |
| 19:26.08 | mikki-kun | does the browser support html5? |
| 19:26.25 | nox- | DocScrutinizer, do you know this? http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/malware_biz.pdf (bit dated now but still interesting...) |
| 19:26.25 | DocScrutinizer | lcuk: Kamillosan |
| 19:26.44 | DocScrutinizer | no, is it malware? :-P |
| 19:26.57 | nox- | no its a talk |
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| 19:27.04 | DocScrutinizer | (you know pdf can have virus) |
| 19:27.13 | nox- | yeah i know :) |
| 19:27.22 | nox- | and iphones run the pdf viewer as root... |
| 19:27.25 | mikki-kun | especially on i-products |
| 19:27.32 | nox- | :) |
| 19:28.19 | lcuk | DocScrutinizer, nahh this is pre-migraine stuff I have |
| 19:28.24 | mikki-kun | would you think that jailbreaking a 2nd gen ipod would be good? |
| 19:28.25 | nox- | but id say flash is worse than pdf in that regard |
| 19:28.45 | mikki-kun | i mean an ipod touch |
| 19:28.52 | mikki-kun | just curious cause my sis has one |
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| 19:28.54 | lcuk | mikki-kun, getting maemo running on some pretty hardware would be nice |
| 19:29.23 | lcuk | does some checking about resolution variance |
| 19:29.30 | nox- | flash security talk: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2009/Fahrplan/events/3494.en.html |
| 19:29.36 | nox- | http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/26C3/mp4/26c3-3494-de-defending_the_poor.mp4 |
| 19:29.40 | MohammadAG | hmm |
| 19:29.43 | MohammadAG | <wtf> |
| 19:29.55 | MohammadAG | backupmenu worked for restoring rootfs for everyone, but failed for me |
| 19:30.06 | Proteous | it doesn't like you |
| 19:30.08 | lcuk | that is once again because you are special |
| 19:30.09 | Proteous | I don't like you |
| 19:30.13 | Proteous | you'd better watch yourself |
| 19:30.22 | Proteous | I have the death sentence on 5 systems |
| 19:30.28 | MohammadAG | umm |
| 19:30.30 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: somebody had to reflash, clamed that "app" is completely borked |
| 19:30.48 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, I see a green ball next to my name, and 4 others |
| 19:30.53 | MohammadAG | what's with that lol |
| 19:31.01 | DocScrutinizer | had a bot attack |
| 19:31.05 | lcuk | crapstorm earlier |
| 19:31.10 | MohammadAG | Finishing flashing... Sending request 0x52 failed! |
| 19:32.48 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.03 | DocScrutinizer | hehehe |
| 19:33.20 | mikki-kun | hm... so that software isn't working pretty well? |
| 19:33.47 | MohammadAG | it works, up to 40% then it just goes to 100% and fails |
| 19:33.58 | DocScrutinizer | seems is working only for special class of NAND (possibly the bad-block-free one) |
| 19:33.59 | mikki-kun | wuhu \o/ |
| 19:34.01 | MohammadAG | hmm, I wonder if using dd on /dev/mtd5 would work |
| 19:34.12 | mikki-kun | mtd5? |
| 19:34.24 | mikki-kun | where does that one come from? :o |
| 19:34.40 | MohammadAG | mtd5 = / |
| 19:34.48 | tybollt | la |
| 19:35.31 | MohammadAG | mikki-kun, cat /proc/mtd |
| 19:35.32 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: probably works better that that flashing thing though |
| 19:35.49 | tybollt | frals? |
| 19:36.36 | DocScrutinizer | dealing with jffs2 / ubifs on a phy dev level is nasty every time |
| 19:37.53 | MohammadAG | how does flasher handle it then? |
| 19:37.58 | DocScrutinizer | though getting an error on flashing is rather strange - or what is it exactly this tool/app does when you get that magic block? |
| 19:38.24 | mikki-kun | btw, does the battery also have an impact of the systems stability when making the voltages tighter? |
| 19:38.38 | DocScrutinizer | mikki-kun: nope |
| 19:38.52 | DocScrutinizer | mikki-kun: if you're talking about core voltages |
| 19:39.07 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, http://pastebin.com/ciRCV9jR |
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| 19:39.45 | MohammadAG | I hate how NOLO flashes the rootfs, not flasher |
| 19:40.16 | DocScrutinizer | ERROR: Invalid argument for 'cmt |
| 19:40.26 | DocScrutinizer | well that's clear enough no? |
| 19:40.36 | mikki-kun | i am talking bout those (at least i think ^^ - wouldn't make much sense if i'd affect other parts with changing the cpu's supply of power) |
| 19:40.47 | MohammadAG | tried --cmt-no-verify, it didn't help, as you can see |
| 19:40.58 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: flasher has no way to flash the NAND directly |
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| 19:42.26 | DocScrutinizer | mikki-kun: why would you want to do that (reduce the voltages)? |
| 19:43.19 | DocScrutinizer | it doesn't help at all for OC, and for normal operation the achievable power reduction is questionable, given the fact the system getting unstable most likely |
| 19:43.22 | mikki-kun | hm, i heard enough of the rumors stating that by using more customized voltages the battery may run longer |
| 19:43.38 | DocScrutinizer | numbers! we want numbers |
| 19:43.54 | mikki-kun | well, that is what i am trying to find out with that ;) |
| 19:44.06 | DocScrutinizer | great! |
| 19:44.13 | mikki-kun | not a scientific study though, personal experience |
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| 19:44.41 | DocScrutinizer | bah |
| 19:44.54 | mikki-kun | but i will give numbers ;) |
| 19:45.35 | DocScrutinizer | like "I guess it does 1.259534 times with ULV settings" ? :-P |
| 19:46.45 | mikki-kun | not to a pinpoint accuracy like "with my custom settings i found out my system runs 1:05:54.32 hours longer than with the stock ones" but i will try finding out about how much longer it'll be like "my system runs an hour longer with my custom settings" |
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| 19:47.47 | mikki-kun | and one quote got my attention... (taken from wiki.maemo.org/overclocking) Nokia's overclocking warning: 500 MHz is the normal frequency. Everything above is not good for your device, even with the stock kernel. |
| 19:47.49 | DocScrutinizer | well, if you got good statistical material, like 50 runs with and 50 without ULV, and the standard deviation is small enough to make it significant... |
| 19:48.58 | mikki-kun | 50 will just take a long time, i think i can get 10 runs for each |
| 19:49.37 | mikki-kun | with battery meter i should be able to pinpoint the time it dies... |
| 19:49.45 | DocScrutinizer | for a more decent set of numbers I'd try to keep CPU load constant, then probe the current drawn by system (using bq27200.sh) and switch from ULV to normal and back every minute. Then you get real numbers |
| 19:50.45 | mikki-kun | hm, i am not changing to ulv though... i got accustomed using xlv as ulv goes afair to 805mhz by default |
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| 19:51.11 | DocScrutinizer | nevertheless the scheme remains the same |
| 19:51.26 | mikki-kun | i know what you are up to with that though |
| 19:51.39 | DocScrutinizer | maybe go for 5min peiods, and don't miss to tag the switching in your bq27200 log |
| 19:52.10 | mikki-kun | i'll try looking into that the next week... will have lots of free time but also have enough stuff to do with my family's pcs are two died down the day before yesterday in 5 mins... |
| 19:53.04 | DocScrutinizer | well, better invest any free time into doing it the way I suggested, rather than trying to accomplish 20 runs |
| 19:53.38 | mikki-kun | faster and gives numbers |
| 19:53.44 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 19:53.51 | DocScrutinizer | real numbers |
| 19:55.14 | th3hate | subtitles support stopped working... movies no longer showing subs |
| 19:55.16 | mikki-kun | uhm where i can get said script? |
| 19:55.23 | th3hate | any ideas what to look for? |
| 19:55.28 | DocScrutinizer | with a period of 5min, and an automated script, you get decent results after as little as 1h |
| 19:55.57 | DocScrutinizer | mikki-kun: check backscroll, ShadowJK linked to it some h ago |
| 19:56.09 | DocScrutinizer | bq.tgz |
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| 19:56.48 | DocScrutinizer | th3hate: nope *scratches head* |
| 19:57.18 | th3hate | was showing subs properly yesterday |
| 19:57.26 | th3hate | suddenly stopped working.. |
| 19:57.34 | DocScrutinizer | reboot? |
| 19:57.54 | th3hate | rebooted and reinstalled app |
| 19:57.57 | th3hate | still not showing |
| 19:58.02 | DocScrutinizer | no idea |
| 19:58.12 | DocScrutinizer | not even knew it ever worked |
| 19:58.43 | DocScrutinizer | for mplayer I once got told to add a separate file for subs |
| 19:59.01 | DocScrutinizer | with a generic name derived from media file name |
| 19:59.03 | th3hate | mplayer shows subs but can't get it to support arabic encoding |
| 20:01.25 | mikki-kun | DocScrutinizer: will be installing it right away, found the link |
| 20:04.08 | mikki-kun | hm, i think i need some modules loaded... |
| 20:04.16 | DocScrutinizer | mikki-kun: for a similar thing I did a few bashlines like ~# bq27200.sh >log.log & ; while pause 60; do (lshal >>log.log); done |
| 20:04.17 | MohammadAG | hmm |
| 20:04.29 | MohammadAG | I started up the USB console on /dev/ttyACM0 |
| 20:04.33 | MohammadAG | how do I use it? |
| 20:04.36 | mikki-kun | i get an Error: Could not set address to 0x55: Device or resource busy |
| 20:05.00 | DocScrutinizer | ummm |
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| 20:05.04 | DocScrutinizer | root? |
| 20:05.42 | mikki-kun | yeah... maybe in the wrong directory? |
| 20:05.51 | mikki-kun | i got that all into /root/ now |
| 20:06.04 | DocScrutinizer | user root though |
| 20:06.11 | mikki-kun | figured it was small and as root uses it i can have it lying around there |
| 20:06.21 | mikki-kun | yeah, as root |
| 20:06.32 | DocScrutinizer | and you'll need the i2cget cmd somewhere (see script where exactly) |
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| 20:07.19 | DocScrutinizer | mikki-kun: duh, power-kernel? |
| 20:07.34 | mikki-kun | most up to date version from titan |
| 20:07.42 | mikki-kun | btw, another error as well ./bq27200.sh: line 205: syntax error: * 3570 / 20 / 1000 |
| 20:07.47 | DocScrutinizer | modprobe -r bq27200 |
| 20:09.04 | mikki-kun | i should remove said module? it isn't even loaded |
| 20:09.21 | mikki-kun | but "bq27x00_battery" is |
| 20:09.31 | mikki-kun | ahhh, that was the bad guy |
| 20:09.48 | mikki-kun | thanks :) |
| 20:09.55 | mikki-kun | now it works like a charm :) |
| 20:10.23 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: keep it, help is coming :-) |
| 20:10.24 | Stskeeps | MohammadAG: http://trac.tspre.org/merbot/freenode/%23meego-arm/log.08-07-2010.txt , [22:02] |
| 20:10.36 | DocScrutinizer | I bet he's aware of that :-D |
| 20:10.48 | DocScrutinizer | ooh, not that |
| 20:11.31 | SpeedEvil | Does busybox sh do variable splitting? |
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| 20:11.31 | SpeedEvil | I want to do |
| 20:11.31 | mikki-kun | by using "./bq27200.sh 5" i exec it every 5 secs, right? |
| 20:11.31 | SpeedEvil | echo fish fowl|read one two;echo $one |
| 20:11.39 | SpeedEvil | and have it output fish |
| 20:11.48 | SpeedEvil | I know why it doesn't - and how to work round it nastily |
| 20:11.57 | SpeedEvil | is there a way to avoid this? |
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| 20:12.18 | Jef91 | Is there a way I can create a text message list on the n900? |
| 20:12.29 | Jef91 | Like for a mass text I send out weekly |
| 20:13.14 | tank-man | sounds like spam :) |
| 20:13.29 | Jef91 | or an invite to a poker game |
| 20:13.30 | Jef91 | :P |
| 20:13.31 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, lol I already got /dev/ttyACM0 on my PC |
| 20:13.36 | MohammadAG | I'm just not sure how to use it |
| 20:13.42 | MohammadAG | never done this low level crap |
| 20:13.57 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: yep, so you actually areconnected to NOLO? |
| 20:14.08 | DocScrutinizer | try ? |
| 20:14.11 | MohammadAG | no, I'm using the backupmenu usb console |
| 20:14.22 | DocScrutinizer | aaah |
| 20:14.25 | MohammadAG | [17675.706460] cdc_acm 1-3:1.6: ttyACM0: USB ACM device |
| 20:14.41 | Stskeeps | that's usual |
| 20:14.43 | mikki-kun | DocScrutinizer: how about everybody using custom voltages reports his numbers? would help up clearing the mist regarding custom voltages |
| 20:14.46 | Stskeeps | done by g_nokia |
| 20:14.48 | Stskeeps | this is earlier |
| 20:15.17 | DocScrutinizer | mikki-kun: those should be pretty the same for all tests done correctly |
| 20:16.39 | mikki-kun | should be, but if more people do the test we can also include an emperical study and check what the usual outcome should be... i mean i could do something wring maybe or so... |
| 20:16.42 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: for backupmenu I'd guess it's a simple shell |
| 20:17.05 | DocScrutinizer | mikki-kun: sure, sure |
| 20:17.10 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, so how do I switch to it |
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| 20:18.09 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: ttyACM aiui is RS232 over USB, so you are just connected to it as soon as you started e.g minicom to ttyACM with right parameters |
| 20:18.37 | Stskeeps | that ttyACM you see is just access to pnatd afaik. |
| 20:18.41 | mikki-kun | and one question regarding OC... are the high voltages bad for the cpu or the faster clockcycles? |
| 20:18.51 | Stskeeps | you could possibly start a shell on it. |
| 20:18.55 | DocScrutinizer | shouldn't that be in TFM of backup-bootmenu? |
| 20:19.18 | MohammadAG | backupmenu has a USB console option in it |
| 20:19.25 | MohammadAG | which uses /dev/ttyACM0 |
| 20:19.25 | DocScrutinizer | hm so should respond to AT |
| 20:22.02 | MohammadAG | bah I give up |
| 20:22.47 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: what did you DO? |
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| 20:23.22 | DocScrutinizer | don't come here and ask fuzzy Q without any hint how to help you out, please :-) |
| 20:24.09 | ds3 | where does one get that bq27200.sh script? |
| 20:24.36 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, I need to switch to ttyACM0 |
| 20:25.08 | mikki-kun | ds3: http://enivax.net/jk/n900/bq.tar and after that untar it and exec it via "./.bq27200.sh" |
| 20:25.50 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: told you ttyACM is rs232 over USB, so what you need is *)support for that on the device *) right kernel module loaded on host PC *)find the /dev/tty* thats's been crreated by that module *)use minicom to open that /dev/tty* as a rs232, with correct parameters (usually 115k 8N1) |
| 20:28.25 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: that's what I seem to remember from last time I used that for OM FR uBoot |
| 20:29.05 | mikki-kun | ds3: you are also trying to get some numbers? |
| 20:29.20 | MohammadAG | fvck it |
| 20:29.28 | DocScrutinizer | maybe just interested in decent details bout battery? |
| 20:29.44 | mikki-kun | DocScrutinizer: you'd suggest i kill wifi/2g when i get my numbers? |
| 20:29.55 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 20:30.03 | SpeedEvil | mikki-kun: what numbers are you wanting? |
| 20:30.21 | DocScrutinizer | ULV core |
| 20:30.27 | DocScrutinizer | vs default |
| 20:30.35 | SpeedEvil | ah - right |
| 20:30.36 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 20:30.44 | SpeedEvil | above looks sane reading backscroll |
| 20:30.55 | DocScrutinizer | mikki-kun: also dim screen to off |
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| 20:31.26 | DocScrutinizer | as real screen brightness is controlled by ALS so may change results |
| 20:31.32 | mikki-kun | and uhm... wouldn't it be interessting to actually see whether same voltages but different clockspeeds affect the battery? |
| 20:32.00 | DocScrutinizer | we are rather sure they do :-D |
| 20:32.29 | DocScrutinizer | what we need are numbers for same clockspeed but different core voltages |
| 20:32.43 | mikki-kun | ok, that was my initial plan ^^ |
| 20:33.11 | mikki-kun | and one question regarding overclocking... are the high voltages bad for the cpu or the faster clockcycles? |
| 20:33.15 | DocScrutinizer | it's not a simple setup |
| 20:33.39 | johnsq | mikki-kun: temperatur is the main problem |
| 20:33.55 | DocScrutinizer | the voltages are not directly causing problems, it's the current and that one is depending on freq *only* |
| 20:34.01 | mikki-kun | well, i live in thailand >.< ^^ but the previous weeks it was pretty chilly here |
| 20:34.02 | DocScrutinizer | johnsq: no |
| 20:34.29 | DocScrutinizer | johnsq: not at all |
| 20:35.06 | DocScrutinizer | ~tell johnsq about omap-oc |
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| 20:35.21 | kerio | lcuk: re:accounts - learn to /ns group |
| 20:35.46 | DocScrutinizer | kerio: already told him |
| 20:36.07 | DocScrutinizer | [2010-08-07 21:16:59] <DocScrutinizer> lcukn900: /msg nickserv id lcuk <passwd>; /msg nickserv group |
| 20:37.04 | kerio | aw :( |
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| 20:37.12 | mikki-kun | i don't quite get what you mean by current and frequency exactly... i mean if the stock kernel uses 54/72th of the voltage at 550 mhz and the custo kernel uses that same amout at 900 mhz, where exactly lies the problem? |
| 20:37.12 | DocScrutinizer | hmm :-D |
| 20:37.41 | kerio | mikki-kun: heat? |
| 20:37.42 | DocScrutinizer | ~tell mikki-kun about omap-oc |
| 20:37.45 | kerio | electromigration? |
| 20:38.12 | SpeedEvil | mikki-kun: If you use performance enhancing drugs to do the marathon in 1:30 - as long as you eat the same amount of food with and without the drugs - how can there be any health risks? |
| 20:38.13 | mikki-kun | thanks for the link :) will read that one |
| 20:39.41 | tybollt | so X100e or X201s or X201i? :S |
| 20:39.43 | mikki-kun | i guess there shouldn't be any, of the drugs are not harming my body in the longer run... |
| 20:40.12 | mikki-kun | of == if |
| 20:40.20 | DocScrutinizer | that's the point |
| 20:41.36 | mikki-kun | are the drugs i take harming my body? if not, then i don't understand why sometimes overclocking is seen as something bad |
| 20:41.44 | mikki-kun | btw, i have problems with the link ;/ |
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| 20:42.14 | mikki-kun | doesn't load |
| 20:42.28 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, check %023 and # in correct place |
| 20:44.10 | MohammadAG | dd if=20100807-backup-rootfs.img of=/dev/mtd5 <-- prolly a very bad move |
| 20:44.16 | MohammadAG | too late to go back |
| 20:44.26 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: ShadowJK: MohammadAG: http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Software_Power_management#Powerscript - new software. |
| 20:44.27 | mikki-kun | seems the website is down atm ;/ |
| 20:44.43 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 20:44.45 | SpeedEvil | Stupid script to output power consumption and wakeups per second. |
| 20:44.53 | SpeedEvil | well - per 5s |
| 20:45.44 | ds3 | mikki-kun: yes. something more useful then stupid bars |
| 20:46.54 | ds3 | IMO, the whole concept of bars should just go away... graph signal strength in dBm and have a battery indicator showing + or - the current flow |
| 20:48.01 | mikki-kun | hm, bars are in general not very cool imo... |
| 20:48.11 | mikki-kun | take up space and are only helpful in the quick run |
| 20:49.01 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: nice :-))) |
| 20:49.12 | mikki-kun | and most of the time not very helpful *pointing at apple's way of measuring the 2g quality* |
| 20:49.57 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: I was going to write something extremely complex. But that is probably not going to get written, and this works, and is understandable by users. |
| 20:50.11 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
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| 20:51.23 | mikki-kun | hm... and i think every maemonian should have on his n900 a stable 1ghz and 1.1ghz setting so we can point towards the iphonians and show them we are even faster ^^ |
| 20:51.32 | kerio | mikki-kun: or not |
| 20:51.38 | kerio | yeah, i'd rather not |
| 20:52.11 | mikki-kun | i didn't say we should be running our devices at 1000 and 1100 all the time ;) |
| 20:52.29 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: may I? |
| 20:53.17 | kerio | kick! kick! kick! kick! |
| 20:54.12 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: how's that now? |
| 20:54.32 | DocScrutinizer | powerscript 20 |
| 20:54.39 | DocScrutinizer | or 1 |
| 20:55.00 | DocScrutinizer | or no parameter, which defaults to 5 |
| 20:55.36 | spinningcompass | blinks |
| 20:55.40 | DocScrutinizer | sleep ${1-5} |
| 20:57.13 | spinningcompass | So, I'm compiling PyPy on the Scratchbox/Fremantle/QEMU setup, but with a view to running the PyPy binary on an N810, which of course has a CPU that doesn't support the Fremantle framework. I'm *loving* Fremantle so far, but has anyone in here successfully compiled a binary under Fremantle and used it on Diablo? (No GUI, no nothing, command-line only...) |
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| 21:01.37 | skibur | ok |
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| 21:03.11 | mikki-kun | hm, ok, i seem to have found my voltages now :) will look the next 3 days how things behave |
| 21:03.21 | mikki-kun | if good then i'll start the test :) |
| 21:06.15 | skibur | later hackers!! |
| 21:06.16 | skibur | skibur out! |
| 21:17.21 | MohammadAG | SpeedEvil, wouldn't http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=779052 burn out the LEDs? |
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| 21:20.04 | SpeedEvil | MohammadAG: posting |
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| 21:21.41 | Proteous | MohammadAG: I don't think you can "burn out" LEDs in that way |
| 21:22.09 | Proteous | you could by applying more voltage then the led is rated for |
| 21:23.22 | SpeedEvil | Proteous: yes, you can. |
| 21:23.37 | SpeedEvil | Proteous: they are on a tiny poorly heatsinked bit of plastic. |
| 21:23.42 | SpeedEvil | They can easily overheat. |
| 21:23.58 | SpeedEvil | In addition, some LEDs are only rated for 0.5s@their max flash power. |
| 21:24.30 | Proteous | hence the part in my comment about "rating" |
| 21:24.46 | Proteous | if you are within the spec for the LED then you won't burn it out |
| 21:25.00 | Proteous | even by quickly cycling it on and off |
| 21:27.52 | SpeedEvil | cycling it on and off does not harm it. |
| 21:28.05 | SpeedEvil | However - the maximum continius rating for the flash LEDs is 50mA. |
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| 21:28.16 | SpeedEvil | The flash is at 350mA - 7 times higher. |
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| 21:28.37 | SpeedEvil | If it strobes at the flash intensity, not the flashlight intensity, then it risks damaging the LEDs. |
| 21:28.55 | SpeedEvil | See my comment ont hat thread |
| 21:29.43 | Proteous | I agree |
| 21:30.42 | mikki-kun | hm, would it be difficult usin the 50mA instead of the 250 for that app? |
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| 21:31.03 | Proteous | my understanding of the question which included the phrase, "it would be something like the flashligh app but with flashes" led me to belive he was talking about using the LED at the flash light app voltages |
| 21:31.05 | jaem | 'Afternoon |
| 21:31.08 | Proteous | er, amps |
| 21:31.20 | Proteous | which would be just fine |
| 21:32.11 | kerio | flashlight intensity = <3 |
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| 21:33.43 | DocScrutinizer | = @.@ |
| 21:33.58 | DocScrutinizer | or x.x |
| 21:34.05 | luke-jr | Proteous: doesn't that fry it? |
| 21:34.20 | Proteous | Mmmm, frying |
| 21:34.27 | Proteous | wait, what? |
| 21:34.35 | Proteous | the flashlight app? |
| 21:34.43 | DocScrutinizer | luke-jr: read the comments on the thread and the links in there |
| 21:34.45 | luke-jr | at the full 350mA |
| 21:35.01 | kerio | my red led is broken :( |
| 21:35.01 | Proteous | depends, are you in the arctic? |
| 21:35.11 | kerio | (or rather, :) ) |
| 21:35.12 | Proteous | did you bury your n900 in the snow? |
| 21:35.23 | luke-jr | "it would be something like the flashligh app but with flashes" makes me think an applet you touch to flash |
| 21:35.27 | DocScrutinizer | Proteous: won't help |
| 21:35.35 | Proteous | liquid nitrogen? |
| 21:35.52 | DocScrutinizer | might help :-P |
| 21:36.15 | DocScrutinizer | only *might* |
| 21:36.21 | Proteous | heh |
| 21:36.55 | ShadowJK | It would be problematic even in the arctic |
| 21:37.08 | DocScrutinizer | if the thermal impedance from LED chip to outer surface of case is too high, no cooling whatsoever will help |
| 21:37.17 | ShadowJK | right |
| 21:37.27 | Proteous | so what you're saying is that if I want a strobe light that I can see outside during the afternoon I'll need to get a different phone? |
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| 21:37.39 | DocScrutinizer | and case here is LED case |
| 21:37.43 | Proteous | cries |
| 21:38.29 | Proteous | the LED plastic is thin enough that I think submerging it in liquid nitrogen would keep it cool |
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| 21:38.35 | Proteous | even under a heavy work load |
| 21:38.46 | Proteous | if you manage to not crack the plastic |
| 21:38.52 | DocScrutinizer | yes, if you want to see the shadows of your body on next wall, when flashlight fires 2 miles away, yes then you need different phone |
| 21:38.58 | Proteous | lol |
| 21:39.05 | Proteous | IT BURNS! |
| 21:39.55 | DocScrutinizer | Proteous: just for the records: it's probably no plastic, but ceramic |
| 21:39.57 | kerio | DocScrutinizer: does that scenario allow for a closer lightsource too? |
| 21:39.58 | mikki-kun | hm, seems i have a broken sim :( |
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| 21:40.07 | TiagoTiago | hi |
| 21:40.39 | jaem | TiagoTiago: hey |
| 21:40.41 | kerio | 'lo |
| 21:40.47 | ShadowJK | Typically in 350mA applications the led base is attached with thermal glue to a big "star" board, which is then in contact with a heatsink/batterytube through a TIM |
| 21:40.56 | TiagoTiago | is there a way i can have backups (the stuff to get my aps and data back after a total reflash) be generated and sent via network to my desktop machine every N minutes/hours/days/whatever? |
| 21:41.38 | jaem | TiagoTiago: Yes, although not built-in. |
| 21:41.42 | ShadowJK | 's power leds are on star board, star boards attached to Pentium3 heatsink :) |
| 21:41.49 | Proteous | heh |
| 21:41.52 | spinningcompass | What's the best way to start figuring out why an N810 PDA keeps rebooting? "dmesg" isn't revealing much... |
| 21:41.56 | TiagoTiago | any tutorials or download links for that? |
| 21:42.03 | DocScrutinizer | if you figure how to start the backup from cmdline, then you can use alarmed for that, yes |
| 21:42.04 | jaem | TiagoTiago: However, you might want to have it prompt you first, since it will be doing a lot of I/O to tarball all the data |
| 21:42.15 | TiagoTiago | makes sense |
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| 21:42.28 | ShadowJK | spinningcompass, /proc/bootreason, /ar/lib/dsme/stats (or similar...) |
| 21:42.46 | mikki-kun | how about just sending the data via rsync to your pc and when it is done the PC makes a tarball of it? |
| 21:42.53 | TiagoTiago | can i have it ask for permission but time out so i can have it do it's thing while i'm sleeping, but when i'm awake at llate hours still be able to cancel the process? |
| 21:42.54 | psycho_oreos | any of you guys seen v13? |
| 21:43.20 | spinningcompass | ShadowJK: Thank you |
| 21:43.35 | ShadowJK | /var even |
| 21:43.53 | ShadowJK | Since you mentioned dmesh 8 assume it actually boots at some point |
| 21:44.34 | ShadowJK | s/dmesh 8/dmesg I/ |
| 21:44.42 | ShadowJK | damn keyboard :) |
| 21:45.05 | tybollt | hands sjk a .se keyboard - there fixed it for ya ;P |
| 21:45.14 | ShadowJK | It's not rebooting on connecting charger, is it? |
| 21:45.47 | ShadowJK | tybollt, oh I thought there was just the scandinavian keyboard |
| 21:45.58 | ShadowJK | (N900) |
| 21:46.21 | tybollt | well yeah :) |
| 21:46.30 | tybollt | scandinavia ~ sweden |
| 21:46.36 | tybollt | you know - the important part of it ;) |
| 21:46.37 | spinningcompass | How does one discover the current version of firmware installed on an N810? |
| 21:46.53 | Proteous | without booting it? |
| 21:46.59 | ShadowJK | Settings/control panel - about product |
| 21:47.04 | spinningcompass | thank you :) |
| 21:47.42 | TiagoTiago | any lik to a tutorial on how to get that thing i described going on? |
| 21:47.45 | ShadowJK | huh, mine's unknown |
| 21:48.15 | psycho_oreos | anyone know if the developer/maintainer of actman (desktop activity manager) is contactable on irc? |
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| 21:49.44 | Proteous | HELLOOOO DESKTOP ACTIVITY MANAGER! |
| 21:49.49 | Proteous | hello? |
| 21:49.55 | Proteous | it doesn't seem to be here |
| 21:50.14 | Proteous | nm |
| 21:50.15 | psycho_oreos | his handle noted on the website is v13 |
| 21:50.25 | psycho_oreos | s/is/as/ |
| 21:50.39 | psycho_oreos | regex fails |
| 21:50.50 | psycho_oreos | his handle noted on website as v13 |
| 21:51.31 | Proteous | you can try /whois v13 |
| 21:51.44 | Proteous | but I don't think there is anyone using that nick on this IRC network at the moment |
| 21:52.03 | psycho_oreos | Last seen : Jun 28 22:26:12 2010 (5 weeks, 4 days, 23:25:38 ago) |
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| 21:54.22 | psycho_oreos | wonder if he got pissed off with maemo and went elsewhere |
| 21:54.44 | Proteous | there is a couple of email address for him on his site www.v13.gr |
| 21:54.48 | Proteous | you can try those |
| 21:56.03 | luke-jr | anyone here use Windows and Wireshark? |
| 21:56.13 | Proteous | not much |
| 21:56.24 | jaem | luke-jr: Why? |
| 21:56.41 | luke-jr | jaem: an IP camera only serves a stream via ActiveX⦠|
| 21:56.58 | jaem | luke-jr: Eep. |
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| 21:57.23 | jaem | I don't personally, but a friend does, which is why I was asking. |
| 21:58.20 | psycho_oreos | Proteous, hmm thanks for your input but I don't really like emailing heh |
| 21:58.31 | Proteous | heh |
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| 22:03.42 | TiagoTiago | Which progrtam i can use to browser (and move/copy/delete etc) files over bluetooth (like how Windows Explorer can do) ? |
| 22:04.27 | jaem | TiagoTiago: An OBEX browser? I'm not sure. Can the Hildon File Manager not do it? |
| 22:05.15 | _llll_ | did you check the app manager, pretty sure searching for bluetooth gives a few options |
| 22:07.38 | TiagoTiago | Hm, right now it's kinda froxen thinking after i just installed somthing via the app manager, when it's resumes responding i'll check fi the default file manager has a way to do it somewhere |
| 22:08.18 | TiagoTiago | frozen* |
| 22:12.30 | ShadowJK | on N810, the default file manager can browse paired bluetooth devices supporting obex ftp |
| 22:12.55 | TiagoTiago | what are the steps to get there? |
| 22:14.11 | jaem | TiagoTiago: Have you paired the remote device yet? |
| 22:14.50 | TiagoTiago | i believe i have, it's included in the list of the bluttoth devices and is authorized |
| 22:15.12 | jaem | Does it show up in the File Manager? |
| 22:15.52 | ShadowJK | settings - control panel - bluetooth - bluetooth on - ok, controlpanel-bluetooth (or via notification area bluetooth icon) bluetooth settings - devices - new (if it's not there) |
| 22:15.57 | TiagoTiago | nope, i keep going one level up and then eventually whent here isn't another level to go ony the N itself shows |
| 22:16.04 | TiagoTiago | N900* |
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| 22:16.24 | jaem | TiagoTiago: Give me a moment and I'll check with mine. |
| 22:16.40 | ShadowJK | oops sorry, you're n900 |
| 22:16.49 | ShadowJK | I thought you had N810 :) |
| 22:17.07 | TiagoTiago | I thought i had mentioned that previously in this convo |
| 22:17.25 | ShadowJK | Yeah I have a bad memory |
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| 22:17.36 | jaem | hands SJK some scrollback |
| 22:17.41 | TiagoTiago | it's alright, it happens :) |
| 22:17.51 | jaem | :) |
| 22:18.00 | ShadowJK | jaem: I'm on n900, small screen is small |
| 22:18.09 | ShadowJK | should move to his n810 |
| 22:18.24 | psycho_oreos | Proteous, figured it out :) error on my end, now I have actman also changing all 9 desktop backgrounds (via modified-hildon-home) |
| 22:18.28 | jaem | but then bad keyboard is bad! |
| 22:18.30 | lcuk | ShadowJK, humans have macro focus |
| 22:18.39 | lcuk | hold n900 a couple of cm closer :P |
| 22:18.43 | jaem | *waves at lcuk* |
| 22:18.44 | ShadowJK | Yeah so N900 doesn't browse files on other devices |
| 22:18.46 | lcuk | same res afterall |
| 22:18.48 | lcuk | hi ja |
| 22:18.52 | lcuk | jaem even |
| 22:18.56 | timeless | > And Linux use has dropped from a high of 2.5% in 2004 to a rounding error this year." |
| 22:19.02 | timeless | chuckles |
| 22:19.10 | kerio | lol |
| 22:19.14 | jaem | >_< |
| 22:19.18 | TiagoTiago | really? |
| 22:19.22 | TiagoTiago | howw whas that measured? |
| 22:19.27 | jaem | TiagoTiago: poorly? |
| 22:19.28 | ShadowJK | Yeah but I find my eyes are too crap to have 8pt font like on N810 :/ |
| 22:19.37 | timeless | tiagotiago: think about it for a bit |
| 22:19.44 | TiagoTiago | lol |
| 22:19.45 | timeless | there was a time when most people didn't have computers at school |
| 22:19.54 | psycho_oreos | biasness +1 |
| 22:19.59 | timeless | with time, everyone has a computer |
| 22:20.10 | timeless | but the people who had computers at first were nerds |
| 22:20.15 | timeless | the late arrivals were.... not |
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| 22:20.25 | lcuk | people who had comps are first had to build/scrounge their own |
| 22:20.43 | lcuk | gah parse error |
| 22:20.49 | lcuk | people who had no comps are first had to build/scrounge their own |
| 22:20.59 | lcuk | thats it, i give up |
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| 22:21.43 | timeless | heh |
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| 22:23.15 | lcuk2 | gives up talking |
| 22:23.27 | psycho_oreos | any of you guys know how are the E-Tags made from /home/user/.backgrounds/cache.info? I could very well be on the way to make modified 9 desktop switching a lot easer |
| 22:23.31 | jaem | lcuk2: Didn't you already try that? |
| 22:23.34 | psycho_oreos | s/easer/easier/ |
| 22:24.24 | lcuk2 | yeah jaem i couldnt even kick myself properly, i wiped myself off the server too |
| 22:24.34 | jaem | cackles |
| 22:24.41 | jaem | goes for lunch |
| 22:25.46 | TiagoTiago | GPS satelites' clocks are extremely precise, right? Is there a way to synch the N900's internal clock with them? |
| 22:26.07 | Proteous | it would use a lot of battery to have the GPS on a lot |
| 22:26.24 | Proteous | but I'm sure you could do it |
| 22:26.29 | kerio | TiagoTiago: openntpd can also get data from GPS, when configured |
| 22:26.31 | Proteous | you can also get percise time from the cell network |
| 22:26.32 | kerio | afaik |
| 22:26.39 | TiagoTiago | only check the time from the satelites every N minutes/hours/days |
| 22:27.01 | lcuk2 | well, resync when you get a sat lock would be simplest |
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| 22:27.29 | kerio | lcuk2: you're not speaking |
| 22:27.41 | kerio | stop |
| 22:27.43 | lcuk2 | true |
| 22:27.48 | lcuk2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.37 | kerio | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:34.44 | lcuk2 | kerio, |
| 22:34.45 | lcuk2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.51 | lcuk2 | and a complete and utter one |
| 22:34.56 | DocScrutinizer | I'm not that sure about liblocation and GPS driver supporting ntpd syncing to GPS as stratum-whatever |
| 22:36.09 | DocScrutinizer | anyway should be simple enough to set up and test |
| 22:36.21 | DocScrutinizer | just I can't get bothered right ATM |
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| 22:40.57 | TiagoTiago | i would eve know where to start (i mena, other than trying to google for tutorials on how to program on the N900) |
| 22:41.20 | TiagoTiago | *wouldn't even* |
| 22:41.28 | TiagoTiago | erm,w here the first asterisk came from? |
| 22:42.14 | ShadowJK | minigpsd claims gps time sync |
| 22:42.29 | ShadowJK | but I suspect minigpsd never worked on n900 at all |
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| 23:14.30 | TiagoTiago | why did everyone go quiet? |
| 23:15.00 | nox- | just charged his n900 after letting the battery go flat |
| 23:15.01 | ShadowJK | I'm watching stuff gpodder downloaded from youtube |
| 23:15.03 | johnsq | its late here in europa |
| 23:15.16 | SpeedEvil | I am writing wiki pages. |
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| 23:16.20 | TiagoTiago | I thought you couldn't let it go flat without bricking it (somthing about the charging mode needing to boot up the device and the device not beign able to run from the wall only from the battery itself, even while charging)( |
| 23:17.05 | ShadowJK | well... |
| 23:17.11 | SpeedEvil | TiagoTiago: It's really not. |
| 23:17.20 | ShadowJK | there's flat and there's flat... and there's N8x0 and N900 |
| 23:17.27 | crashanddie | TiagoTiago: I've let it run flat plenty of times |
| 23:17.29 | TiagoTiago | a |
| 23:17.39 | SpeedEvil | TiagoTiago: There are certain annoying charging behaviours, but it doesn't really stop it working if you know how to avoid them. |
| 23:17.41 | TiagoTiago | ah* |
| 23:17.53 | nox- | well it still did a clean shutdown after some beeps, then i plugged the charger in |
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| 23:18.01 | SpeedEvil | In general, for most people, it will work OK. |
| 23:18.21 | SpeedEvil | It shuts down ~10-30 min before it's really out of power |
| 23:18.31 | TiagoTiago | I see |
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| 23:18.43 | nox- | (that was after i read that the battery chip needs to `learn' about the battery by letting it go flat at least once...) |
| 23:18.52 | SpeedEvil | nox-: that's really not true. |
| 23:19.00 | nox- | oh? |
| 23:19.07 | ShadowJK | I see one issue, the OS-less emergency charge only goes to 3.7 or something, and flashing requires much more |
| 23:19.36 | SpeedEvil | nox-: The battery needs to run flat - to a level that BME is disabled - to allow the battery charging chip to read capacity. |
| 23:19.50 | ShadowJK | the battery chip is essentially unused by maemo.. and maemo shuts down before battery chip learning threshold |
| 23:19.52 | SpeedEvil | nox-: But - the charging chip appears not to be used for that really. |
| 23:20.21 | ShadowJK | battery fuel gauge chip you mean |
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| 23:20.35 | SpeedEvil | y |
| 23:21.18 | nox- | oh |
| 23:21.43 | DocScrutinizer | ~flatbatrecover |
| 23:21.44 | infobot | Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered Nokia wallcharger to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover |
| 23:22.13 | nox- | i waited till the led was blue |
| 23:22.31 | nox- | then i booted it (just few mins ago) |
| 23:22.34 | ShadowJK | uh. |
| 23:22.36 | crashanddie | nox-: after 32 minutes the fast charge stops, if the battery is insufficiently charged, the n900 won't boot |
| 23:22.44 | ShadowJK | It's not supposed to become blue :) |
| 23:22.46 | crashanddie | nox-: which means you need to cycle the low-level charge again |
| 23:22.47 | nox- | oh? |
| 23:23.19 | SpeedEvil | blue? |
| 23:23.23 | nox- | well plugged charger in again, now its charging again... |
| 23:23.28 | crashanddie | blue means you've got a message |
| 23:23.35 | crashanddie | white means it's booting |
| 23:23.38 | SpeedEvil | If it goes blue, it's booted all the way, and you've got a message |
| 23:23.45 | nox- | oh |
| 23:23.50 | nox- | let me look :) |
| 23:24.12 | kerio | lol |
| 23:24.23 | TiagoTiago | ar eyou saying it will bott up even if you have it shut down when you plug it to to charge? Or that only happens if you pull the battery out for at least a minute? |
| 23:24.39 | SpeedEvil | TiagoTiago: usually it will charge fine |
| 23:24.43 | SpeedEvil | ~flatbatrecover |
| 23:24.44 | infobot | Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered Nokia wallcharger to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover |
| 23:24.51 | TiagoTiago | but will boot up automaticly? |
| 23:24.52 | SpeedEvil | Is only in the case it's seeming not to charge |
| 23:25.00 | SpeedEvil | TiagoTiago: it boots up part of the way. |
| 23:25.06 | TiagoTiago | I see |
| 23:25.10 | SpeedEvil | TiagoTiago: automatically |
| 23:25.20 | SpeedEvil | TiagoTiago: not all the way to the desktop |
| 23:25.25 | TiagoTiago | ok |
| 23:25.26 | crashanddie | BTW: For anyone who wanted to watch "The Wolfman" -- DON'T. It's an absolutely disastrously bad movie |
| 23:25.41 | TiagoTiago | how does it compare to the original? |
| 23:25.49 | kerio | the only problem is that if the n900 fails to boot, you can't get it to charge normally, and the emergency charge is not enough to flash another image |
| 23:25.52 | SpeedEvil | is rewatching Babylon 5. |
| 23:26.05 | crashanddie | TiagoTiago: did "disastrously bad movie" not give you a hint? |
| 23:26.13 | kerio | so yeah, at that point it is bricked - until you buy a new halfway-charged battery |
| 23:26.27 | TiagoTiago | i haven't watched or read reviews of the original, so i can't compare them |
| 23:26.32 | SpeedEvil | kerio: only in the case that you broke the firmware. |
| 23:26.45 | kerio | SpeedEvil: yeah, in the case that you were dicking around with the kernel or something |
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| 23:27.05 | crashanddie | SpeedEvil: so the emergency charge isn't enough for a flash? |
| 23:27.23 | DocScrutinizer | nope |
| 23:27.29 | crashanddie | damn |
| 23:27.32 | nox- | hm dont think it was a message... |
| 23:27.36 | kerio | you *can* hotswap the batteries though, so if you get a new one you can flash and boot with the other one, and then swap the batteries so it charges normally |
| 23:27.46 | SpeedEvil | nox-: sure you're not colourblind? |
| 23:27.53 | nox- | haha |
| 23:28.01 | nox- | no :) |
| 23:28.06 | kerio | orange mistaken with blue? |
| 23:28.10 | TiagoTiago | how much is a standalone charger compatible with the N900 battery? |
| 23:28.11 | kerio | weird colourblindness |
| 23:28.12 | nox- | no |
| 23:28.18 | crashanddie | SpeedEvil: seeing blue instead of white isn't colourblind, it's called beauty lenses :D |
| 23:28.23 | kerio | TiagoTiago: heh, that's the other option |
| 23:28.26 | nox- | maybe it was a greenish blue at most |
| 23:28.27 | crashanddie | (or "fashion contacts") |
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| 23:28.38 | SpeedEvil | green is fully charged |
| 23:28.45 | nox- | ah hmm |
| 23:28.49 | DocScrutinizer | TiagoTiago: ~7EUR |
| 23:28.51 | nox- | so this is an rgb led? |
| 23:28.55 | SpeedEvil | nox-: yes |
| 23:28.56 | kerio | i still don't get why this is not a *big* issue |
| 23:28.58 | nox- | aah :) |
| 23:29.14 | kerio | we get at least someone every day asking for help regarding the battery |
| 23:29.20 | TiagoTiago | either that or more than one LED very close to each other |
| 23:29.22 | DocScrutinizer | kerio: what is a big issue? |
| 23:29.39 | crashanddie | kerio: there should be a USB mode that prevents the n900 from booting and keeps it in fast charge |
| 23:29.54 | ShadowJK | An rgb led ID essentially 3 leds very close to eachother... |
| 23:29.54 | SpeedEvil | kerio: for 99.9% of those people - ~flatbatrecover will work |
| 23:29.56 | crashanddie | also, the normal charge should enable wifi and allow software updates in the background |
| 23:29.58 | nox- | yeah now its green again |
| 23:29.58 | DocScrutinizer | TiagoTiago: nope, it is a 3color |
| 23:30.05 | kerio | SpeedEvil: flatbatrecover is slow |
| 23:30.07 | FIQ | Argh, how long does it take to fix a broken charger port? : < |
| 23:30.08 | TiagoTiago | cool |
| 23:30.08 | nox- | sorry about remembering that as blue... :) |
| 23:30.12 | kerio | 100mA |
| 23:30.20 | SpeedEvil | kerio: it's not. |
| 23:30.22 | kerio | as opposed to the 1100mA you get from the wallcharger |
| 23:30.48 | SpeedEvil | kerio: with the wallcharger, you get 500mA charge in recovery mode, as long as the battery voltage is over 2.7v? |
| 23:31.00 | nox- | crashanddie, hm i think i have used wifi while it was charging... |
| 23:31.12 | kerio | i thought DocScrutinizer discovered that the OTG pin is not checked in emergency charge |
| 23:31.13 | crashanddie | nox-: I mean when the device is "off" |
| 23:31.15 | FIQ | Maemo is waay better than UIQ3, even if there are mobile OS-es worser than UIQ3 |
| 23:31.18 | nox- | crashanddie, oh |
| 23:31.21 | TiagoTiago | Why they decided to not have the N900 run directly from the wall? |
| 23:31.21 | kerio | so you get 100, even from the wallcharger |
| 23:31.28 | kerio | DocScrutinizer: can you confirm this? |
| 23:31.31 | crashanddie | TiagoTiago: sorry? |
| 23:31.33 | DocScrutinizer | kerio: nope, that was a bug in datasheet |
| 23:31.36 | kerio | TiagoTiago: because subcontractors SUCK BAWLS |
| 23:31.37 | crashanddie | TiagoTiago: you mean why a USB for charging? |
| 23:31.41 | kerio | oh, nvm then |
| 23:31.52 | ShadowJK | It's relatively difficult to push battery really empty anyway.. I've never managed to get it emptier than requiring 30 secs emergency charge |
| 23:32.00 | TiagoTiago | No, i mean running while plugged to the wall even if you pull out the battery |
| 23:32.04 | crashanddie | ShadowJK: bigass resistor |
| 23:32.09 | kerio | that's how we got that piece of shit that's the bme |
| 23:32.14 | kerio | (also not enough power, really) |
| 23:32.19 | crashanddie | TiagoTiago: erhm... not many devices support that |
| 23:32.27 | TiagoTiago | really? why? |
| 23:32.31 | crashanddie | TiagoTiago: cameras don't, most phones don't, even cars don't |
| 23:32.37 | TiagoTiago | also, runnign while plugged even if the battery is flat |
| 23:32.58 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: it's frigthnening easy: crash OS while some of the chips connected directly to battery are still on and consuming |
| 23:33.17 | crashanddie | TiagoTiago: start your car, disconnect battery, engine will die |
| 23:33.18 | kerio | TiagoTiago: the wallcharger gives 1.1A, sometimes the cellmo requires peaks of 3A |
| 23:33.20 | ShadowJK | You need extra beefy powersupply (or capacitors in the device) for that :) |
| 23:33.40 | kerio | (note - peaks; you have a much lesser usage normally) |
| 23:33.41 | TiagoTiago | hm, i see |
| 23:33.59 | kerio | but yeah, you can run it from the wallcharger only |
| 23:34.16 | kerio | stop bme, wait for the watchdog to start the emergency charge, remove battery |
| 23:34.28 | kerio | set offline mode before that though |
| 23:34.30 | DocScrutinizer | (c) /me :-P |
| 23:34.31 | kerio | or you could lose data |
| 23:34.36 | kerio | of course (c) DocScrutinizer |
| 23:34.37 | TiagoTiago | so somtimes while charging from the wall the battery charge might actually go down instead of up 'cause of those spikes? |
| 23:34.57 | kerio | TiagoTiago: meh, not really |
| 23:35.09 | kerio | they're tiny peaks, not enough to cause a noticeable discharge of the battery |
| 23:35.10 | DocScrutinizer | yes, basically that's true |
| 23:35.32 | kerio | but enough to make the n900 shut down when going without battery |
| 23:35.34 | TiagoTiago | so it happens but can't be measured |
| 23:35.37 | TiagoTiago | ? |
| 23:35.43 | nox- | 3g/gsm is sending in bursts right? that would be spikes of power used... |
| 23:35.43 | DocScrutinizer | that's when notifier "not enough power" or somesuch pops up |
| 23:35.51 | ShadowJK | Probably with a scope |
| 23:35.54 | kerio | run a kernel compile, see what happens :) |
| 23:36.37 | TiagoTiago | lol, there is a prog called "iphone" that has nothing to do witht he fruitphone, it's for showing your IP int he home screen Xp |
| 23:37.11 | kerio | DocScrutinizer: you should start selling hotswap dongles |
| 23:37.15 | DocScrutinizer | isn't it iphome? |
| 23:37.22 | ShadowJK | also when battery is nearly full, on wall charger, and you're using the device, there are measurable events where battery is discharged :) |
| 23:37.32 | DocScrutinizer | kerio: why? nobody seems interested |
| 23:37.32 | TiagoTiago | erm....<.< |
| 23:37.39 | TiagoTiago | you're right, nvm me <.< |
| 23:37.44 | nox- | TiagoTiago, that reminds me of... http://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/07/22/134238/Apple-Doesnt-Appreciate-Toilet-Humor |
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| 23:38.36 | lcuk2 | DocScrutinizer, inductive charger replacement backcover *PLEASE* |
| 23:38.48 | FIQ | hah |
| 23:38.49 | DocScrutinizer | lcuk2: WIP |
| 23:38.53 | lcuk2 | ++ |
| 23:39.22 | kerio | inductive backcover battery hotswapper! |
| 23:39.25 | lcuk2 | infact, even the contact pads so n900 can be used in a dock would be cool |
| 23:39.27 | crashanddie | o/ lcuk2 |
| 23:39.29 | ShadowJK | battery with extra JST wire |
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| 23:40.00 | ShadowJK | ah access to pads with battery installed would be awesome |
| 23:40.10 | lcuk2 | like this http://uk.gear.ign.com/articles/772/772303p1.html |
| 23:40.15 | TiagoTiago | how many watts are avaiable on the air from all the WIFI access points in a residential buildingr unning at once? |
| 23:40.15 | crashanddie | btw, I'm currently building my USB charger for my bike (push bike) |
| 23:40.17 | lcuk2 | heya crashanddie \o |
| 23:40.38 | lcuk2 | TiagoTiago, enough to make my head go "Ding!" after a few minutes sometimes |
| 23:40.44 | TiagoTiago | lol |
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| 23:40.54 | crashanddie | TiagoTiago: probably not much more than 1W |
| 23:41.07 | TiagoTiago | and how many wats the charger provides again? |
| 23:41.22 | crashanddie | 5V x 1.1A, so 5.5W |
| 23:41.32 | lcuk2 | well the power of individual units falls off PDQ |
| 23:41.33 | TiagoTiago | I see, balls :/ |
| 23:41.34 | kerio | TiagoTiago: WAT |
| 23:41.50 | lcuk2 | it would be like trying to use the stars in the night sky as solar power sources with current tech |
| 23:41.59 | FIQ | Reminds me of the fact that my P1i is possible to shut off with camera LED still on (used that bug as a torch before an application for it came), and make the battery run out aaaalmost fully |
| 23:41.59 | FIQ | (as in, connection to charger will give red LED in like 20 mins before anything else happens) |
| 23:42.18 | DocScrutinizer | eeeerrrm, 15nW/m^2 ? |
| 23:42.29 | TiagoTiago | I once read that the cosmic microwave background doesn't provide any significant ammount of watts to be usefull :/ |
| 23:42.58 | kerio | if it did, we'd have serious problems running *anything* based on electrons, you know |
| 23:43.01 | lcuk2 | TiagoTiago, and if you can pull enough useful watts out of the ether now it would be similar |
| 23:43.06 | kerio | including our nerve system |
| 23:43.11 | crashanddie | TiagoTiago: plus, you would need to have an antenna and system to turn it into usable power supply |
| 23:43.23 | DocScrutinizer | FIQ: works with N900 same way :-D |
| 23:43.26 | crashanddie | TiagoTiago: there's a reason that Tesla's dream of wireless electricity hasn't made it yet |
| 23:43.29 | kerio | crashanddie: antenna usb dongle |
| 23:43.29 | TiagoTiago | we need ZPM batteries |
| 23:44.27 | lcuk2 | RTG |
| 23:44.51 | spinningcompass | Is it generally accepted wisdom that Fremantle doesn't generate binaries that are compatible w/ Diablo? |
| 23:45.14 | DocScrutinizer | errrrr yes? |
| 23:45.28 | crashanddie | TiagoTiago: or naquadah batteries |
| 23:45.37 | lcuk2 | yes the binary format itself should be compatible I believe , but the libraries it owuld need to link against are bad |
| 23:45.38 | TiagoTiago | indeed |
| 23:45.40 | lcuk2 | afaik |
| 23:45.42 | crashanddie | spinningcompass: that's not wisdom, it's common sense |
| 23:45.59 | lcuk2 | you can use diablo binaries on fremantle if the libs are still compatible |
| 23:46.00 | timeless | tiagotiago: err |
| 23:46.07 | timeless | just ZPM |
| 23:46.16 | timeless | the M is functionally equivalent to the word battery |
| 23:46.23 | timeless | just like you shouldn't say ATM machine |
| 23:46.27 | spinningcompass | crashanddie: I'll take that as a 'yes'. |
| 23:46.40 | timeless | and, i'll take 2 ZPMs, please :) |
| 23:46.40 | lcuk2 | happily built and used chinook binaries on chinook diablo and fremantle |
| 23:46.43 | DocScrutinizer | or LED diode |
| 23:46.48 | timeless | never hurts to have a spare :) |
| 23:46.49 | kerio | timeless: what about your pin number? |
| 23:46.51 | kerio | :p |
| 23:46.51 | TiagoTiago | i meant it like how you say lithium-ion batteries, the technology used to get get/store/provide the enrgy |
| 23:47.01 | timeless | kerio: my localization doesn't screw that up either |
| 23:47.15 | crashanddie | timeless: well, "module" in itself isn't a synonym for battery, but the fact that the ZPM is a power generation device does indeed render the "battery' part moot |
| 23:47.18 | timeless | are you using your n900 in English? if so, i can offer you a copy :) |
| 23:47.20 | TiagoTiago | a battery that uses zerop point module technology |
| 23:47.41 | crashanddie | TiagoTiago: read what I said |
| 23:47.51 | crashanddie | TiagoTiago: the ZPM generates energy, it doesn't store it |
| 23:47.53 | kerio | timeless: nope, IT_it |
| 23:48.07 | timeless | kerio: oh well |
| 23:48.14 | lcuk2 | facepalms |
| 23:48.20 | kerio | i think it's just "Insert PIN" here |
| 23:48.22 | timeless | enjoy our poor Italian mangling of crappy English |
| 23:48.28 | TiagoTiago | either way it provides it |
| 23:48.33 | lcuk2 | I thought ZPM was some form of half life portal weaponry |
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| 23:48.53 | timeless | or really poor Italian mangling of poorly conceived Finnish written as "English" |
| 23:48.58 | TiagoTiago | we're talking Stargate terminology here |
| 23:49.07 | timeless | lcuk: stargate |
| 23:49.11 | timeless | mostly atlantis |
| 23:49.11 | lcuk | yup |
| 23:49.13 | lcuk | i looked |
| 23:49.18 | timeless | a small amount of sg1 |
| 23:49.22 | timeless | no clue about universe |
| 23:49.25 | timeless | we don't get that here |
| 23:49.38 | DocScrutinizer | coughs and goes having a BE-eR |
| 23:49.52 | crashanddie | timeless: atlantis makes most use of ZPM |
| 23:49.58 | TiagoTiago | not much about ZPMs in Universe, at least in the episodes we have here so far (they are on the third re-run of the first season so far |
| 23:50.03 | timeless | nods |
| 23:50.16 | crashanddie | timeless: universe doesn't have ZPMs at all. The ship is powered by the stars themselves (the ship actually "dives" into a sun to recharge the batteries) |
| 23:50.17 | timeless | tiagotiago: no fair |
| 23:50.35 | timeless | crashanddie: please don't leak too much |
| 23:50.43 | timeless | someday i'll get to some place where i can watch it |
| 23:50.53 | TiagoTiago | kinda annoying that they don't show new seasons (or there aren't any yet?) |
| 23:51.04 | TiagoTiago | you can probably torrent it |
| 23:51.16 | spinningcompass | TiagoTiago: It's like when I fell asleep watching Passion of the Christ. I was so mad because I had no idea how it ended. Did the guy die or not? |
| 23:51.21 | ShadowJK | You can watch it anywhere, though not legally. Maybe one day there'll be a legal way to watch shows and listen to music ;p |
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| 23:51.36 | crashanddie | timeless: well, (without leaking too much), destiny is actually a lot older than the ancient's technology found in sg1 and atlantis, and it has been theorised that they hadn't invented the ZPM yet |
| 23:52.05 | timeless | ok |
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| 23:52.07 | ShadowJK | spinningcompass, spoiler: the guy becomes an undead (zombie?) |
| 23:52.09 | timeless | that's enough :) |
| 23:52.11 | TiagoTiago | it would be nice if there was somthing liek Pandora for TV series (but without the part where PAndaora only works in a few countries) |
| 23:52.12 | spinningcompass | :-o |
| 23:52.17 | crashanddie | TiagoTiago: only one season, 20 episodes |
| 23:52.21 | spinningcompass | That's why they couldn't kill him. He was a zombie proces. |
| 23:52.23 | spinningcompass | process. |
| 23:52.28 | TiagoTiago | gah, fucking typos |
| 23:52.31 | spinningcompass | shuts up |
| 23:52.42 | crashanddie | TiagoTiago: surfthechannel.com |
| 23:53.03 | crashanddie | or more specifically: http://www.surfthechannel.com/show/79687.html |
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| 23:53.42 | crashanddie | who opped them? |
| 23:53.46 | DocScrutinizer | me |
| 23:53.50 | crashanddie | whatfor? |
| 23:53.55 | DocScrutinizer | ot attack |
| 23:53.58 | DocScrutinizer | bot |
| 23:53.59 | crashanddie | hmm |
| 23:54.08 | crashanddie | +q $~a didn't help? |
| 23:54.11 | DocScrutinizer | and dinner (mine) :-D |
| 23:54.22 | DocScrutinizer | sure, it did, so now deop them |
| 23:54.28 | crashanddie | k |
| 23:54.55 | crashanddie | DocScrutinizer: shouldn't we add mo, frals and rst to the op list? |
| 23:54.55 | DocScrutinizer | freenode got captcha now on web gateway |
| 23:55.10 | nox- | that was quick :) |
| 23:55.12 | DocScrutinizer | I'm not averse |
| 23:55.38 | crashanddie | GAN900: any comments? |
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| 23:55.51 | crashanddie | lcuk: I'm starting my new job tomorrow!!! |
| 23:55.59 | lcuk | sunday? |
| 23:56.05 | crashanddie | well, it's already sunday |
| 23:56.10 | DocScrutinizer | lcuk |
| 23:56.15 | lcuk | hasn't slept yet! |
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| 23:57.16 | lcuk | yes DocScrutinizer |
| 23:57.39 | DocScrutinizer | <crashanddie> DocScrutinizer: shouldn't we add mo, frals and rst to the op list? |
| 23:57.58 | spinningcompass | It's possible to build PyPy on the Fremantle toolchain but not on the Diablo toolchain: the latter's QEMU keeps generating SIGSEGV (11). Is there a way to use the Fremantle toolchain to build binaries for Diablo? |
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| 23:58.24 | crashanddie | spinningcompass: hardly. You're going to end up with library conflicts |
| 23:58.37 | lcuk | spinningcompass, simpler |
| 23:58.44 | lcuk | identify the specific problems |
| 23:58.48 | lcuk | in diablo building |
| 23:58.51 | lcuk | and work on those |
| 23:58.57 | spinningcompass | good advice |
| 23:58.59 | lcuk | rather than trying to do as you suggest |
| 23:59.08 | TiagoTiago | how many amps does lighting up blue sucks more than lighting up red int he status LED? |
| 23:59.13 | crashanddie | DocScrutinizer: I didn't understand your question |
| 23:59.25 | lcuk | he opeed me to oat the same time |
| 23:59.29 | TiagoTiago | miliamps* |
| 23:59.30 | lcuk | but i kicked myself a bit ago |
| 23:59.32 | DocScrutinizer | I suggested to include lcuk in that list |
| 23:59.35 | crashanddie | lcuk: ah, k |
| 23:59.46 | lcuk | i kicked self for my bad typing |
| 23:59.52 | lcuk | i see it hasnt gotten better |
