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| 00:17.16 | lcukn900 | damn windows xchat |
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| 00:53.24 | MohammadAG | Night #maemo |
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| 00:58.30 | Funnyface | I am not asking "how" just whether it is possible or not, I want to stream video live from my N900 camera, and let people watch the video live on a flash video player or anything similar. can qik do that, or does it only allow me to record a video clip, then upload it afterwards? |
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| 01:02.00 | Funnyface | nevermind, I figured it out :) |
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| 01:09.56 | DocScrutinizer | HAZ MAKE COOKIE FOR CRASHANDDIE, BUT I HAZ EATED IT |
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| 01:38.05 | DocScrutinizer | GAN900: ping |
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| 01:38.51 | DocScrutinizer | ~seen javispedro |
| 01:38.53 | infobot | javispedro <~javier@Maemo/community/council/javispedro> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 3d 6h 15m 4s ago, saying: 'rootfs'. |
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| 01:39.06 | DocScrutinizer | o.O |
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| 01:39.23 | infobot | njsf <~njsf@ool-182caa3e.dyn.optonline.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 10d 2h 32m 52s ago, saying: 're'. |
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| 01:39.39 | njsf_ | ~seen njsf_ |
| 01:39.40 | infobot | njsf_ is currently on #maemo (30m 51s) #meego (30m 51s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen njsf_'. |
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| 01:39.49 | njsf_ | LOL |
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| 01:40.14 | DocScrutinizer | ~spank njsf_ |
| 01:40.15 | infobot | ACTION bends njsf_ over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on njsf_'s pasty white buttocks. |
| 01:44.42 | DocScrutinizer | now for the science part, here psychology, research about self-(un)consciousness |
| 01:44.49 | DocScrutinizer | ~seen infobot |
| 01:44.49 | infobot | infobot is currently on #utos (1d 21h 59m 33s) #asterisk-doc (1d 21h 59m 33s) ##t42 (1d 21h 59m 33s) #maemo (1d 21h 59m 33s) #fredlug (1d 21h 59m 33s) ##ols (1d 21h 59m 33s) #flyspray (1d 21h 59m 33s) #asterisk-dev (1d 21h 59m 33s) #webos-internals (1d 21h 59m 33s) #opensimpad.org (1d 21h 59m 33s) #asterisk (1d 21h 59m 33s) #byumug (1d 21h 59m 33s) ... |
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| 01:53.12 | njsf_ | sorry just back from the tattoo removal service |
| 01:53.43 | DocScrutinizer | :-D |
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| 02:14.54 | Arkenoi | media player alphabetic sort just SUCKS. the person who invented this "feature" must be fucking out of his mind. |
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| 02:18.58 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, pong? |
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| 02:19.19 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: you're 'council'? |
| 02:19.32 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, why? |
| 02:20.05 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_Developer_Device_Queue - request for benevolent support |
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| 02:20.48 | GeneralAntilles | Ah, yeah, Quim supposedly got devices for that |
| 02:20.52 | GeneralAntilles | I never heard where they went, though. |
| 02:21.28 | DocScrutinizer | I dunno if editing a wikipage is just enough |
| 02:22.15 | DocScrutinizer | so I thought I ping a few of those to whom it may concern |
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| 02:23.51 | DocScrutinizer | My own device might see another outtime of 2 weeks next future (to repair a silly simple switch) |
| 02:24.13 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, yeah, remind me to poke the list if I don't do it by Sunday. |
| 02:24.23 | GeneralAntilles | I'll see if I can chase down the status. |
| 02:24.32 | DocScrutinizer | k |
| 02:24.36 | DocScrutinizer | thanks |
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| 02:27.05 | GAN900 | Thanks for poking me. |
| 02:27.22 | DocScrutinizer | Arkenoi: media player sucks by virtually all aspects of UI design - and the tracker concept sucks the most |
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| 02:31.00 | DocScrutinizer | Arkenoi: I *hate* it, when braindamaged mediaplayer/tracker-index ignores my carefully maintained directory tree to sort p0rn away from lolcatz, and the first 67 "photos" are the buttons of my IRreco remote GUI |
| 02:33.34 | DocScrutinizer | that's so _incredibly_ idiotic, it doesn't even come by surprise when tracker also sucks a whole battery flat for doing this useless job - and developers didn't notice neither the inherent idiocy of the concept nor the broken implementation |
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| 02:34.44 | GAN900 | lol |
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| 02:35.08 | Arkenoi | DocScrutinizer, tracker may also wake up while you are scp'ing media files to the phone and slow everything down trying to index incomplete ones |
| 02:35.29 | DocScrutinizer | sure, it's fubar by design |
| 02:36.11 | Arkenoi | or it may just wake up for now reason while you are watching movie and cause jerky playback due to io bottleneck |
| 02:36.12 | DocScrutinizer | like trying to fight headache by building pyramids |
| 02:36.25 | Arkenoi | for no reason even |
| 02:37.37 | GAN900 | They should have an X18-M addon for the N900+1. :P |
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| 02:59.55 | Termana | hey hey |
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| 03:02.49 | lcuk | hey Termana you are chirpy this morning |
| 03:03.01 | lcuk | 3 different signins on 3 different chans, impressive |
| 03:03.50 | Termana | hey lcuk! 6 channels actually :P I have so many rooms I have to say hello in, I'm wondering weather I should even bother anymore :P |
| 03:03.51 | lcuk | sorry, 4 :p |
| 03:03.54 | lcuk | <Termana> hello |
| 03:03.55 | lcuk | <Termana> hey hey |
| 03:03.55 | lcuk | <Termana> yello |
| 03:03.55 | lcuk | <Termana> heidy ho |
| 03:04.08 | lcuk | Termana, i like your variety |
| 03:04.21 | lcuk | greeter bots would welcome such a selection |
| 03:04.25 | B-man|N900 | lol |
| 03:04.27 | Termana | lol :P |
| 03:04.36 | B-man|N900 | lcuk: have you seen that new iron man movie? :) |
| 03:04.49 | lcuk | no, couldnt afford to go pictures |
| 03:04.50 | B-man|N900 | just saw it |
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| 03:05.10 | B-man|N900 | ah :( |
| 03:05.13 | lcuk | cool |
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| 03:06.33 | lcuk | completely fails at sleeping |
| 03:08.30 | B-man|N900 | lcuk: i'm assuming that it's 3:08pm there? |
| 03:08.37 | B-man|N900 | *am |
| 03:08.39 | lcuk | +1hr |
| 03:08.54 | B-man|N900 | jeez |
| 03:09.11 | lcuk | i was in bed for an hour or so |
| 03:11.17 | B-man|N900 | i dont think i could handle only 1 hour of sleep - i would be crazy the next day lol |
| 03:11.31 | Termana | lcuk, is this something you do often? |
| 03:11.35 | lcuk | i didnt sleep thats the point |
| 03:11.45 | lcuk | Termana, being awake @ silly oclock? |
| 03:11.56 | Termana | lcuk, yes and not sleeping |
| 03:12.24 | lcuk | yeah tho 4am doesnt get seen by me often any more really |
| 03:12.51 | Termana | I can help you with that sleeping problem if you like |
| 03:12.54 | Termana | grabs the hammer |
| 03:13.05 | lcuk | heh its been a problem for 15 or so years ;) |
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| 03:13.27 | lcuk | has always a nightowl |
| 03:13.49 | lcuk | i just dont always type in here so late :p |
| 03:15.55 | B-man|N900 | lcuk: i'm guessing this is when you get most of your code work done? :) |
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| 03:18.09 | lcuk | B-man|N900, its when my mind starts building things, whether its code or sandcastles doesn't much matter. its when i organise the thoughts of the day |
| 03:19.36 | B-man|N900 | ah ;) |
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| 03:27.52 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, dawn. End of the nice quite dark period |
| 03:28.42 | DocScrutinizer | anyway sleep is overrated |
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| 03:30.56 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: only when you're single |
| 03:32.29 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, probably my english is too technical to get the ambiguity/pun |
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| 03:35.08 | DocScrutinizer | whatever, I'm married with my gadgets, and they don't care about *my* timezone, and most of them don't have any preferences about when to 'sleep' if they do at all |
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| 03:35.44 | B-man|N900 | gah, next week is going to be crazy :( |
| 03:35.47 | B-man|N900 | i have to do a GIS analysis project for the iceland volcano :P |
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| 03:36.07 | DocScrutinizer | GIS? |
| 03:36.24 | B-man|N900 | Geospatial Information Systems |
| 03:36.38 | DocScrutinizer | hehe |
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| 03:36.59 | B-man|N900 | it's a mouth full i know xD |
| 03:37.38 | type_t | what program is used for rendering GIS Open Source or other? |
| 03:37.47 | DocScrutinizer | maybe you find the volcano does a very slow foxtrot |
| 03:37.55 | B-man|N900 | Qgis perhaps? |
| 03:38.05 | B-man|N900 | hehe |
| 03:38.15 | B-man|N900 | uses ArcMap |
| 03:38.47 | B-man|N900 | and STK8 (sattelite tool kit) |
| 03:38.56 | B-man|N900 | *satellite |
| 03:39.10 | B-man|N900 | gah - i need sleep :( |
| 03:40.24 | B-man|N900 | DocScrutinizer: interesting thing that i saw was the ash cloud being sucked into a weather system xD |
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| 03:42.44 | type_t | are dimonds coming up yet? |
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| 03:45.41 | B-man|N900 | lol, no - but i thought i saw a little lava in the rim |
| 03:45.41 | DocScrutinizer51 | wonders if diamonds aren't supposed to burn when in red glowing 1000C hot lava |
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| 03:49.40 | type_t | but if the lava finds a way out through the side of the volcano . it can colapse and cause a inplosion. |
| 03:50.39 | type_t | followed by another big-bang-theory |
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| 04:49.35 | nick3232 | hello |
| 04:49.44 | nick3232 | i followed the wiki link |
| 04:49.55 | nick3232 | and i need help with the n900 please |
| 04:51.48 | nick3232 | hello? |
| 04:52.31 | ZogG | everyone died in apocalypse |
| 05:01.43 | pronto | ^ |
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| 05:06.06 | phish3 | alright people I'm in a pickle - its about time for a new smartphone (still on a g1) and I'd really like what I believe is going to be called an n920... whatever it is, the successor to the n900 |
| 05:06.18 | phish3 | question is when will such a phone be out |
| 05:06.42 | phish3 | projections are fine |
| 05:14.23 | Surfa | apparently you don't need a phone in near future? |
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| 05:44.10 | pigeon | hmm, this might not the right place, but i just tried to register on maemo.org, got the e-mail, but when i tried to login to complete the registration, i got "Error: Could Not Get User". |
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| 05:49.37 | `0660 | phish3, i wouldn't expect the next model to be available before xmas |
| 05:49.51 | `0660 | but that is just my guess |
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| 05:54.22 | `0660 | i think there were at least rumours if not pictures of n900 in May last year. It was announced around August, and my pre-order was delivered in January |
| 05:55.00 | Stskeeps | i don't get those '920' rumours |
| 05:55.15 | Stskeeps | there's a lot of misinformation out on shady blogs that has no merit whatsoever |
| 05:55.41 | `0660 | so it can easily take about eight months from first pictures to deliveries |
| 05:56.22 | `0660 | Stskeeps, rumours generate visitors :) |
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| 06:47.10 | pigeon | i wonder if this app actually exists: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CcfG5uxSOw |
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| 06:48.53 | Funnyfacemob | nice |
| 06:48.59 | Funnyfacemob | it probably does |
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| 06:55.39 | phish3 | `0660: damn thats a while off |
| 06:56.03 | phish3 | Surfa: I have a g1 right now... I want a signifcantly better one tho |
| 06:56.07 | `0660 | yeah |
| 06:56.42 | phish3 | haven't used an n900 myself but given its hw specs its going to have a haaaaard time competing in the recent android saturation with snapdragon |
| 06:57.25 | phish3 | I was thinking nokia might up the anty to be back on competing specs earlier but even in that sense I'm thinking it wouldn't until summer at the very least |
| 06:57.38 | phish3 | I could wait that long I think .... |
| 06:57.50 | Funnyfacemob | the hardware isn't great, but maemo is lovely and the hardware is by far "good enough", I think anything more powerful is just overkill |
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| 06:58.25 | phish3 | see I'm wanting an almost tablet that can do normal video without any bullcrap and thats what omap4/next class of hardware solves |
| 06:58.30 | ShadowJK | suspects the next device will at most be a omap3 @ 720MHz |
| 06:58.34 | phish3 | eek |
| 06:59.36 | phish3 | btw how's the pdf reader operate on the n900? |
| 07:00.34 | phish3 | my g1 is dirt slow for that but it seems more recent phones on android do well, but if the pdf reader didn't receve enough tlc it can be slow/buggy... |
| 07:00.35 | Funnyfacemob | it has loaded anything I've tried, and with the high resolution of the display it looks good |
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| 07:01.14 | phish3 | cool I got burned on pdfs with the g1, took a while for them to come out with the app alone and it sucked for a long while |
| 07:01.41 | phish3 | know if its poppler based? |
| 07:02.17 | Funnyfacemob | I haven't tested it properly, so I don't know how it would handle a 200MB catalogue :P |
| 07:02.36 | phish3 | haha, yea I'm just hoping 10-40 mB docs work ok |
| 07:03.26 | `0660 | phish3, i'm quite happy with the video on n900 already. it seemed to have no problems even with 720p video when i tested it |
| 07:03.48 | phish3 | 720p h264? |
| 07:03.59 | phish3 | hows battery life when doing so? |
| 07:04.02 | `0660 | i'm not sure about the codec |
| 07:04.12 | `0660 | i only played it for a couple of minutes |
| 07:04.17 | phish3 | ah |
| 07:04.37 | `0660 | i use television to watch my series :) |
| 07:04.44 | phish3 | yea again i know if you come at it from a well its a phone standpoint most of this is unneeded |
| 07:04.50 | phish3 | I'm coming at it from a tablet perspective |
| 07:05.07 | `0660 | also haven't had any trouble with pdfs |
| 07:05.46 | Funnyfacemob | from a fully charged battery I can use the device on wifi for chatting and some web browsing for something like 4-5 hours |
| 07:06.20 | phish3 | not bad |
| 07:06.46 | phish3 | I'm used to about 2 hrs with heavy browsing on my g1 tops |
| 07:07.21 | phish3 | heavy web browsing or gps rather |
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| 07:09.08 | phish3 | all said and done I'll probably crap out and get an evo or nexus given timing constraints... it'd be great if nokia pulled out before I move tho, I could wait a month or two I suppose... I'd really like to throw my money at them :D |
| 07:09.14 | phish3 | <3 qt |
| 07:09.30 | Funnyfacemob | is the g1 HTC? |
| 07:09.41 | phish3 | ya, bastardization name for htc dream |
| 07:10.13 | Funnyfacemob | I got about that same battery time with my 2 HTC devices too |
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| 07:10.48 | phish3 | my friends got a nexus (htc also) and it performs and has much better battery life |
| 07:11.28 | Funnyfacemob | nokia always made power efficient phones.. they could sit on standby for over 2 weeks without running out of power :P |
| 07:11.36 | phish3 | I really hate the lack of storage on it though and even so java apps still have too many gc (pausing) and apps can be uncooperative in memory sharing |
| 07:11.48 | Stskeeps | usually gets a whole day of n900 interaction before putting it on charger when i go to sleep |
| 07:12.32 | phish3 | I think thats standard behavior these days |
| 07:12.47 | phish3 | but good to know non the less |
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| 07:13.58 | phish3 | btw how good is the mapping app? |
| 07:14.02 | phish3 | er maps app |
| 07:14.28 | phish3 | even the nexus one leaves me sometimes wanting the more traditional standlone gps devices |
| 07:14.30 | Funnyfacemob | on the N900 there is plenty of space |
| 07:15.04 | Funnyfacemob | there is an offline |
| 07:15.08 | phish3 | and with g1 pauses I've almost gotten in accidents a few times heh |
| 07:15.10 | Funnyfacemob | err.. misclick |
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| 07:15.49 | Funnyfacemob | offline (maps loaded on to the memory card) turn by turn navigation program called sygic |
| 07:16.07 | phish3 | I can definitely appreciate an offline mode |
| 07:16.19 | Funnyfacemob | similar to tomtom on winmo |
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| 07:16.27 | phish3 | far too many network related issues happen when searching on google maps app |
| 07:16.50 | microlith | attempts to create a widget and gets stuck at the last step |
| 07:16.51 | Funnyfacemob | but it is not free, costs 39 euro I think |
| 07:17.04 | Funnyfacemob | hehe |
| 07:18.07 | Funnyfacemob | also, you have a nokia maps application which erm.. wants an internet connection, but also seems to work without one if you deny it a connection |
| 07:18.38 | phish3 | haha |
| 07:18.46 | phish3 | gotta wonder how that works |
| 07:19.05 | phish3 | caching I suppose for the most part... |
| 07:19.20 | Funnyfacemob | it probably has a cache of recently loaded bits or something |
| 07:19.41 | Funnyfacemob | maybe someone else can answer that |
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| 07:20.44 | Funnyfacemob | anyway I am not really missing a single thing on my n900 |
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| 07:21.35 | phish3 | btw audio player play ogg out of the box? |
| 07:22.03 | Funnyfacemob | just minor details like.. they could have given it some hardware buttons on the front panel for answering calls and such without sliding out the keyboard |
| 07:22.10 | phish3 | I absolutely despised palm for not allowing oggs to be played despite including the relevant libraries in the runtime |
| 07:22.13 | Funnyfacemob | but it obviously has touch screen buttons |
| 07:23.08 | Funnyfacemob | haven't tried ogg, but I've seen ogg listed in the reposies so chances are it won't |
| 07:23.23 | Funnyfacemob | should only take 30 secs to fix it though |
| 07:23.43 | phish3 | well apt-getting something (it uses apt right?) isn't a problem |
| 07:23.56 | phish3 | as long as it still works with the official media player |
| 07:24.27 | phish3 | I suppose with the more open environment there might be alternative media players but I'm not interested that much in configuring the phone |
| 07:24.56 | Funnyfacemob | it has its own application manager GUI, don't know what backend it uses :p |
| 07:25.17 | phish3 | ah |
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| 07:27.53 | Funnyfacemob | what do you think of android then? |
| 07:28.18 | Funnyfacemob | I have only tried an unofficial semi working port on a winmo device :P |
| 07:28.47 | phish3 | well I have an outdated experience |
| 07:29.00 | Funnyfacemob | seems to be a bit more intended for being used as a "phone" OS than maemo |
| 07:29.03 | phish3 | due to limited romspace of the g1/dream I cannot load 2.0+ |
| 07:29.18 | Funnyfacemob | hmm |
| 07:29.19 | phish3 | I don't know about that |
| 07:29.37 | phish3 | I can see it being used on tablets (I've programmed a number of apps for it at an older job) |
| 07:29.42 | Funnyfacemob | can't you install it to the microsd partition or something? |
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| 07:29.49 | phish3 | nope |
| 07:30.18 | genewitch | does anyone here know how upnp works? is there a package /script that lets me request a upnp port from a router via command line? |
| 07:30.34 | phish3 | anyway I currently use cynogenmod or some such and am on 1.6 with a few 2.1+ backports |
| 07:31.07 | phish3 | its pretty much not updatable anymore though since everybody has moved on to new and better phones and since you cant run the newer os you miss out on everything :x |
| 07:31.21 | Funnyfacemob | :( |
| 07:32.27 | phish3 | but even on 1.6 things worked pretty well |
| 07:32.46 | phish3 | but 192 mB of ram isn't enough, only something like 50 mB is available for apps to consume (total) |
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| 07:32.58 | phish3 | dalvik/java combo sucked with gc |
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| 07:33.15 | phish3 | they combated it in some places really awkwardly even for the programmer |
| 07:34.17 | phish3 | such as some functions take in a parameter which might be null but if isn't you can assume is something you returned earlier (widget wise) so you can try and reuse it |
| 07:35.27 | phish3 | combine java app tendancy for apps to consume memory even if they don't need it and a system which doesn't close apps unless it deems necessary and you end up with a pretty painful and frustrated experience |
| 07:36.04 | phish3 | and when they all share something as little as 50mB... well, like I said the maps app almost got me in accidents more than a few times lol |
| 07:37.31 | Funnyfacemob | doesn't it swap ram? |
| 07:37.36 | phish3 | oddly enough though a good deal of the time things work fine though, its a really odd relationship |
| 07:37.43 | phish3 | not by default |
| 07:38.13 | Funnyfacemob | you should enable that then, should eliminate lots of your frustration :P |
| 07:38.17 | phish3 | you can partiition up your valuable minihdsc card but I haven't seen it solve things |
| 07:38.25 | phish3 | vm layer hides it from java |
| 07:38.37 | phish3 | java apps go oh more memory to consume (not knowing its slower) |
| 07:39.14 | Funnyfacemob | :P |
| 07:39.23 | phish3 | btw I'm a java programmer and like it in various places but the way its set up in android or at least crapper android devices I'm not a fan of lol |
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| 07:40.11 | Funnyfacemob | well I am just an "average user" :P |
| 07:42.02 | Funnyfacemob | anyway at the moment I only have 10MB RAM free here |
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| 07:42.15 | Funnyfacemob | and it's using 160MB swap |
| 07:42.36 | Funnyfacemob | got a bunch of stuff running |
| 07:42.41 | phish3 | well its linux so it might be doing more caching to use up the ram |
| 07:42.55 | Funnyfacemob | don't really notice any major impact on the performance |
| 07:43.12 | Funnyfacemob | but so is android |
| 07:43.22 | phish3 | yea but android the problem is in java |
| 07:43.40 | phish3 | if you go to the linux layer at least normally the kernel caches everything to use the ram up |
| 07:44.02 | phish3 | but purges cache way better than java apps (who don't really cooperate with eachother) |
| 07:44.32 | phish3 | ah free -m should give you a good idea I think |
| 07:44.53 | phish3 | it'll sub off the buffering/cache if the setup on the n900 does it |
| 07:46.01 | Funnyfacemob | it doesn't accept any parameters |
| 07:46.09 | phish3 | its probably busybox then |
| 07:46.23 | phish3 | just use it without the -m |
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| 07:46.44 | Funnyfacemob | yep :> |
| 07:48.44 | Funnyfacemob | anyway it doesn't display any info about caching :p |
| 07:49.08 | jaska | you could always cat /proc/meminfo |
| 07:49.24 | phish3 | ah here i was looking at /proc/vmstat |
| 07:49.26 | Termana | phish3, you do know 2.1 is available for the G1 with OpenEclair (full eclair) and Cyanogen 5.0.7 (cyanogen's full eclair rather than donut with backports) |
| 07:50.10 | phish3 | Termana: I haven't looked in a few months much but 5.0.7 cyanogen is for nexus and openeclair is missing various things I thought |
| 07:50.42 | phish3 | least it seemed that way before... |
| 07:50.44 | Funnyfacemob | Cached: 77272 kB |
| 07:50.55 | Termana | phish3, 5.0.7 is for G1 - you've missed the fact the he recently decided to do Eclair for G1 because he was able to fix things that were broken with OpenEclair |
| 07:50.57 | phish3 | 77 megs then |
| 07:51.23 | phish3 | Termana: ah I don't even see 5.0.7 on his site |
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| 07:51.42 | Termana | phish3, right, its still in testing (-test3 the last I looked) |
| 07:51.57 | phish3 | mmm.... I don't know if I'm interested in testing branches |
| 07:52.03 | Termana | sorry, its actually -test5 |
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| 07:52.48 | phish3 | Funnyfacemob: that means ur phone has 77 megs it can just dispose of at any time free... anything linux given sufficient usage should have 100% ram usage |
| 07:53.57 | Termana | phish3, Link for your viewing pleasure if you wish to try (or just read) - http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?/topic/2688-cyanogenmod-5-for-dreammagic-would-you-like-a-pony-v507-test5-05132010/ |
| 07:53.59 | arachnist | hmm |
| 07:54.02 | phish3 | in android it seems more like the apps want to hog on to the memory individually so they don't do gc often, but like i said I find it detrimental, at least on the g1 |
| 07:54.10 | phish3 | Termana: thanks |
| 07:54.40 | phish3 | Termana: his updator made my lazy, I used to go check xda forums daily |
| 07:54.53 | phish3 | er weekly |
| 07:54.58 | phish3 | I'm not that much a nerd |
| 07:55.10 | arachnist | i never seen more than 3GB of ram in use on my desktop |
| 07:55.26 | arachnist | (unless i was running some VMs) |
| 07:55.29 | phish3 | excuse the multple lines |
| 07:55.33 | phish3 | ason@archer:~> free -m |
| 07:55.34 | phish3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:55.36 | phish3 | Mem: 12038 11962 75 0 170 2932 |
| 07:55.37 | phish3 | -/+ buffers/cache: 8859 3179 |
| 07:55.39 | phish3 | Swap: 0 0 0 |
| 07:55.58 | phish3 | if you buy it, linux will consume lol |
| 07:56.17 | phish3 | no vms |
| 07:56.31 | arachnist | so what you're running there? |
| 07:56.40 | arachnist | or is it not a desktop, but a server? |
| 07:57.01 | phish3 | chrome is probably being a bastard and taking up 3 gigs... sometimes it doesn't like reclaiming memory |
| 07:57.05 | arachnist | at work we have servers with over 64GB of ram used |
| 07:57.16 | phish3 | its just a desktop (i7 I bought last year) |
| 07:57.21 | Funnyfacemob | is it just me or does it say 12MB total RAM? |
| 07:57.25 | phish3 | yes |
| 07:57.33 | arachnist | Funnyfacemob: s/MB/GB/ |
| 07:57.41 | phish3 | I went out of my way cause when dealing with matlab tomfoolery 4 gigs didn't cut it |
| 07:58.13 | phish3 | no upgrade path in my older comp so I just spent the extra 2hundred upfront this time |
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| 07:58.38 | arachnist | 8GB of ram here in desktop, 6GB in NAS (it's zfs based, so most of it is in use), 4GB of ram in my laptop |
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| 07:59.08 | Funnyfacemob | I am still holding on to 32bit windows :p |
| 07:59.36 | Funnyfacemob | so limited to ~3.3GB |
| 07:59.42 | phish3 | yea i've only got this workstation and my laptop (4g there as well) |
| 07:59.46 | arachnist | i have no machine where running 32bit windows would be possible/reasonable |
| 07:59.49 | Termana | I beat all of you |
| 07:59.57 | phish3 | 16? |
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| 08:00.07 | phish3 | or something beyond normal...? |
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| 08:00.26 | Termana | I'm running on 900mhz Celeron and 512mb. Main computer, use it for everything - from web browsing to kernel compiles. |
| 08:00.33 | phish3 | ahaha |
| 08:00.34 | arachnist | either it wouldn't run at all (arm/mips/sparc) or it would be a waste of resources (>=4GB of ram available) |
| 08:00.55 | phish3 | Termana: I had actual deadlines to meet a few times and my older comp couldn't cut it |
| 08:01.43 | Termana | I'll admit it clogs along occasionally - but in general its fine doing everything. Obviously its not playing Crysis or some such (plus I use Linux anyway), but it does everything for me |
| 08:02.13 | Funnyfacemob | perfectly fine for everything except gaming |
| 08:02.30 | arachnist | except gaming and flash-ridden websites |
| 08:02.34 | Funnyfacemob | so if you're not into that, it'll last for many years :P |
| 08:02.38 | phish3 | inn I don't know my browsing habbits include a million tabs these days |
| 08:02.48 | phish3 | i can't go backwards :| |
| 08:03.00 | arachnist | 720p videos might also lag on a 900MHz celery |
| 08:03.01 | phish3 | I do still hold a hate for flash ridden sites |
| 08:03.15 | phish3 | they find a way to lag on my core2 laptop |
| 08:03.29 | phish3 | *duo if that meant it was multicore... |
| 08:03.30 | Termana | I can have heaps of tabs up (I don't use Firefox - memory hog - I use Chrome) |
| 08:03.37 | Termana | But as everyone is saying |
| 08:03.43 | Termana | Flash... jesus christ. |
| 08:03.51 | Funnyfacemob | well at least you can transcode it into something else first, then watch it afterwards |
| 08:04.00 | phish3 | I'm too lazy for that |
| 08:04.10 | Termana | You can actually see the poor machine stabbing itself whenever I have to use flash |
| 08:04.18 | phish3 | haha |
| 08:04.46 | Funnyfacemob | lowering the flash quality helps a bit |
| 08:04.54 | arachnist | hmm |
| 08:04.54 | Funnyfacemob | if you haven't done it |
| 08:04.58 | phish3 | not fullscreeing also helps |
| 08:05.23 | genewitch | 900mhz? |
| 08:05.26 | genewitch | but why |
| 08:05.30 | arachnist | i wonder how badly would flash run on my router (1.2GHz arm + 512MB of ram) |
| 08:05.32 | phish3 | I run a 2560x1600 display, my older athlon x2 3200 couldn't keep up with flash on fullscreen |
| 08:05.43 | arachnist | if there was a flash for arm publicly available |
| 08:05.47 | phish3 | my laptop also chokes a bit, I use compositing zoom to help with that |
| 08:05.59 | Funnyfacemob | I remember my old single core, I used to visit some website with flash ads while playing a game |
| 08:06.29 | Termana | phish3, I output to a 1280 x 1024 screen - fullscreen flash videos are fine. As long as I don't wiggle my mouse :P |
| 08:06.32 | Funnyfacemob | I had to block those silly ads because they would use more cpu than my game |
| 08:06.50 | Funnyfacemob | made it stutter horribly.. |
| 08:07.24 | phish3 | my laptop cant seem to keep 2 flash things opened at the same time |
| 08:07.41 | Funnyfacemob | but this time I went for a quad core so inefficient flash crap doesn't scare me anymore |
| 08:07.48 | phish3 | I therorize intel has a time dependant performance chip or something in it that makes it perform more like crap as time goes by |
| 08:07.53 | Termana | genewitch, Its too complicated to explain why I'm using it as my main computer :P But I know it sounds like a crazy thing to do |
| 08:07.56 | Funnyfacemob | at least not until 4 of them are running at the same time |
| 08:08.10 | phish3 | or maybe those times which it failed to suspend and ended up in my backpack took their toll |
| 08:08.44 | genewitch | phish3: I absolutely hate that. |
| 08:08.59 | Termana | I find it sad actually - some phones even have the same amount of RAM that I do :P |
| 08:09.03 | arachnist | i wonder if/when will amd release 3.4GHz 6-core chip |
| 08:09.23 | genewitch | isn't that out already? |
| 08:09.25 | phish3 | Termana: snapdragon pretty much beats my first comp |
| 08:09.28 | genewitch | or is it not 3.4ghz |
| 08:09.31 | arachnist | genewitch: theree are 3.2 |
| 08:09.46 | genewitch | arachnist: yeah but you can overclock the 2.5ish ones to 3.4+ anyhow |
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| 08:09.53 | arachnist | hm |
| 08:10.05 | phish3 | eck I remember when i first picked up eclipse and doing c++ |
| 08:10.24 | phish3 | I had 256 megs of ram and had to choose which was more important at any given moment, the browser or the ide |
| 08:10.25 | genewitch | I'll wait till the price on one of those drops to under $100 |
| 08:10.38 | phish3 | which eventually led me to vim... |
| 08:11.52 | chronim | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8435 |
| 08:11.54 | povbot | Bug 8435: Strange readings from pressure sensitive applications using gtk.gdk.AXIS_PRESSURE |
| 08:12.20 | chronim | please vote to ge resolved |
| 08:12.38 | Funnyfacemob | oh well going to get some sleep I think.. laters |
| 08:13.31 | Termana | cya Funnyfacemob |
| 08:13.51 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 08:14.22 | Stskeeps | morn jaffa |
| 08:16.35 | chronim | how to vote for a bug all 20 allowed times? |
| 08:20.12 | Termana | good morning Jaffa |
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| 08:36.17 | Ddorda | hey, I don't use yet Maemo, and wanted to know first if there's any calendar app for it? |
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| 08:37.46 | Stskeeps | yes, it comes with a calendar app (maemo 5) but it isn't the best of the bunch |
| 08:38.10 | Ddorda | Stskeeps: erm. what's wrong with it for now? |
| 08:38.25 | Stskeeps | go look at brainstorms and bugs i guess |
| 08:38.47 | Ddorda | Stskeeps: yea, good idea, that's exactly what Ill do. thanks :) |
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| 08:48.16 | desu | woof |
| 08:48.30 | DocScrutinizer | meeeow |
| 08:48.36 | DocScrutinizer | err |
| 08:48.38 | desu | pet-pets the kitty |
| 08:48.39 | DocScrutinizer | meeeego |
| 08:48.46 | desu | lol |
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| 08:56.31 | psycho_oreos | is there a pc connectivity software for linux with fremantle? |
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| 08:59.04 | DocScrutinizer51 | hmm... |
| 08:59.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | that's a funny question |
| 09:00.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | olease define 'connectivity' |
| 09:00.21 | psycho_oreos | I know there's one for diablo but not for fremantle.. currently transferring files between a linux computer and the maemo is via ssh over network |
| 09:00.48 | psycho_oreos | I meant PC Suite mode |
| 09:01.19 | DocScrutinizer51 | err |
| 09:01.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | points to mass storage mode' |
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| 09:02.08 | psycho_oreos | yup doesn't work with arch :/ fdisk doesn't list any partitions |
| 09:03.40 | DocScrutinizer51 | also network comprises usb network. And there's sfdisk on N900 |
| 09:03.53 | SpeedEvil | psycho_oreos: ssh, rsync, scp, sftp, ... |
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| 09:04.18 | SpeedEvil | You can even point many file managers at the device over ssh |
| 09:04.22 | DocScrutinizer51 | esp sftp |
| 09:04.43 | psycho_oreos | SpeedEvil, I'm doing that right now but the speeds are appauling to say the least :) |
| 09:04.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | works great with most filemanagers |
| 09:05.13 | psycho_oreos | DocScrutinizer, well I personally would prefer if I can transfer data to and from via USB rather than going over wireless which is what I'm doing right now |
| 09:05.34 | DocScrutinizer | [2010-05-15 11:03:39] <DocScrutinizer51> also network comprises usb network. And there's sfdisk on N900 |
| 09:06.23 | psycho_oreos | yeah usb network I was looking at that, so that would work if I have the device plugged into the computer and setup udev rules to handle usb networking? |
| 09:06.36 | DocScrutinizer | supposed to work with N900/fremantle as well |
| 09:06.53 | SpeedEvil | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking |
| 09:07.59 | DocScrutinizer | sips on his latte macchiato and wonders idly whether to check what that wikipage is telling |
| 09:08.13 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: o/ |
| 09:08.20 | SpeedEvil | hi |
| 09:08.39 | psycho_oreos | I've stumbled across that page before, I guess that should work in theory with fremantle :) I'll give it a shot, ta |
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| 09:10.44 | psycho_oreos | though usb networking would still be pushing speeds lower than say from pc to maemo |
| 09:11.12 | psycho_oreos | but I'll have a look at sfdisk as DocScrutinizer mentioned as well |
| 09:11.46 | DocScrutinizer | mumbles "PC connectivity manager" |
| 09:12.28 | psycho_oreos | I was assuming that normally if under say disk mode, it would display device (as it did) and the partitions? |
| 09:13.04 | DocScrutinizer | it only exports the VFAT on eMMC, and any VFAT on uSD |
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| 09:13.47 | DocScrutinizer | where $VFAT_on_eMMC=~user/MyDocs |
| 09:14.48 | psycho_oreos | it didn't in my case.. provided that I didn't insert a SD card into maemo |
| 09:15.01 | DocScrutinizer | and you're out of luck afaik when your uSD has more than one partition you want access, or a non VFAT type fs |
| 09:16.12 | psycho_oreos | which is a little ironic when maemo can support a few filesystems.. at least on the fremantle.. I've seen there's ext3 support in the very least |
| 09:19.30 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:21.02 | DocScrutinizer | psycho_oreos: edit to your needs |
| 09:21.10 | SpeedEvil | psycho_oreos: It's basically designed with only one aim. To hve maxcimal compatibility with windows. |
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| 09:21.26 | DocScrutinizer | psycho_oreos: take care you'll bootloop if any typos/bugs in that file |
| 09:22.02 | psycho_oreos | DocScrutinizer, ta, I'll have a look at that soon |
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| 09:22.26 | psycho_oreos | SpeedEvil, invariably name of nokia :) lets all support windows and windows only ;) |
| 09:22.33 | psycho_oreos | s/name/lame/g |
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| 11:09.51 | Zucca | Subtites don't work on my mediaplayer. Movie finename is the same as subtitle filename with the expection of the filename extension. Both are in same directory. Any help? |
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| 11:11.37 | SpeedEvil | I'm unsure the media player supports it |
| 11:12.04 | SpeedEvil | Search for bugs on this - and add one - or a brainstorm |
| 11:20.40 | DocScrutinizer | mediaplayer has no support for subtitles afaik |
| 11:20.58 | DocScrutinizer | mplayer should |
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| 11:21.24 | DocScrutinizer | ditch mediaplayer |
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| 11:24.56 | pupnik | http://retroremakes.com quite a few candidates for ports there |
| 11:25.18 | Zucca | DocScrutinizer: I'm already installing Kmplayer and mplayer. :) |
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| 11:27.23 | Zucca | It if possible to set mplayer as mediaplyer backend? |
| 11:27.38 | _llll_ | what does that even mean? |
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| 11:28.08 | Zucca | _llll_: So that mediaplyer would play videos using mplayer. |
| 11:28.52 | Zucca | Because mplayer handles subtitles, I'd like to use it. |
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| 11:30.05 | Zucca | I've been using mplayer for ages on my PC. :) |
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| 11:36.28 | Zucca | Well. Kmplayer+mplayer works just fine. Even with TV-out using 4:3 TV. Perfect thing. |
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| 11:53.32 | valdyn | Zucca: theres subtitles support for the default media player, probably extras-devel |
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| 11:56.58 | Macer | damn i love my n900 |
| 11:57.00 | Macer | heh |
| 11:58.14 | Macer | remember toshiba librettos? :) |
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| 12:01.05 | Zucca | valdyn: I'll wait until it's in extras. :) Although I'm used to use mplayer as I have used it as my only movie player for ages. :) |
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| 12:02.59 | valdyn | Zucca: probagly to slow |
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| 12:03.24 | valdyn | Zucca: at least for h.264 at max resolution it should be defenitely to slow |
| 12:05.37 | merlin1991 | hey guys, I did drop my n900 (from around 110cm height) when it was turned off, and now when I turn it on I got no contacts, sms, files, ... opt isn't there, I have no swap and so on |
| 12:05.49 | merlin1991 | any ideas what I could try before sending it in for repair? |
| 12:06.20 | pupnik | reflash? |
| 12:06.31 | stranger_ | any estimates on how much bandwidth is needed / minute talking using skype? |
| 12:06.58 | merlin1991 | how is reflashing goign to help when there were no changes software related? :D |
| 12:06.59 | SpeedEvil | merlin1991: sounds like the emmc went away |
| 12:07.20 | SpeedEvil | merlin1991: do you have an external mmc? |
| 12:07.28 | merlin1991 | nope afaik |
| 12:07.59 | SpeedEvil | If you have a clue, I would look at dmesg |
| 12:08.14 | merlin1991 | I have no clue :P |
| 12:08.21 | smhar | any estimates on how much bandwidth is needed / minute talking using skype? |
| 12:08.26 | SpeedEvil | but a reflash is not insane. |
| 12:08.41 | SpeedEvil | It's not - IMO - likely to help - but it's not going to hurt either |
| 12:08.43 | merlin1991 | it is insofar since I need the contacts that were lost :D |
| 12:08.49 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 12:09.02 | valdyn | merlin1991: reflashing does not delete contacts? |
| 12:09.14 | SpeedEvil | My next suggestion was reflash the mmc - which would delete contacts not stored on the SIM |
| 12:09.15 | merlin1991 | valdyn I dunno about that :D |
| 12:09.16 | SpeedEvil | AIUI |
| 12:09.41 | valdyn | merlin1991: plus you should have used to backup app at some point |
| 12:09.45 | DerSaidin | . |
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| 12:10.40 | merlin1991 | when I check the free space dialog in setting it says there that it has overall capacity of 455,8 mb |
| 12:11.17 | SpeedEvil | merlin1991: odd. |
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| 12:12.11 | merlin1991 | what name does the mmc have in /dev? |
| 12:12.27 | SpeedEvil | mmcblk0 IIRC |
| 12:12.59 | merlin1991 | hm ls /dev | grep mmc gives me nothing :/ |
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| 12:13.28 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:13.30 | SpeedEvil | is my mmc |
| 12:13.40 | SpeedEvil | what does sfdisk -l show? |
| 12:13.46 | SpeedEvil | (list) |
| 12:13.56 | SpeedEvil | have you been flashing anything kernel-related? |
| 12:14.02 | merlin1991 | nope |
| 12:14.18 | merlin1991 | I only installed xchat ages ago :D |
| 12:14.37 | merlin1991 | sfdisk -l has no output |
| 12:14.43 | SpeedEvil | does sfdisk -l show anything? |
| 12:14.46 | SpeedEvil | ok - that's odd |
| 12:14.49 | SpeedEvil | as root? |
| 12:14.55 | merlin1991 | yeah |
| 12:15.30 | SpeedEvil | does cat /proc/partitions show anything? |
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| 12:16.13 | merlin1991 | major minor # blocks name |
| 12:16.21 | merlin1991 | only this header :/ |
| 12:17.21 | SpeedEvil | That is odd. |
| 12:17.36 | SpeedEvil | If it was mine, I'd plug in a mmc - and see if there was any change first |
| 12:17.44 | SpeedEvil | sd even |
| 12:17.55 | SpeedEvil | I don't think anyone makes micrommc |
| 12:19.01 | merlin1991 | could it be a hardware problem with the mmc? |
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| 12:19.49 | SpeedEvil | yes |
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| 12:20.22 | SpeedEvil | It could also be something wacky like somehow your rootfs has become corrupt coincidentally, and is not properly loading the module/... to support the mmc |
| 12:20.35 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.43 | merlin1991 | hm I'm just going through the dmesg stuff and found this: mmci-omap-hs mmci-omap-hs.0: Failed to get debounce clock |
| 12:20.49 | SpeedEvil | plugging in a SD card will give you an idea on that |
| 12:21.04 | merlin1991 | and the next line |
| 12:21.16 | merlin1991 | mmc0: cover is open, card is now inacessible |
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| 12:22.25 | SpeedEvil | ah! |
| 12:22.35 | merlin1991 | where is that mmc loacated in the device? |
| 12:22.41 | SpeedEvil | it's soldered on |
| 12:22.44 | SpeedEvil | however |
| 12:22.46 | merlin1991 | crap |
| 12:22.50 | SpeedEvil | that is a simple explanation |
| 12:23.12 | SpeedEvil | oh |
| 12:23.18 | merlin1991 | and what do I do now? :P |
| 12:26.11 | merlin1991 | hm seems like it's talking about the possible extension card |
| 12:26.13 | merlin1991 | crap |
| 12:26.56 | SpeedEvil | The cover is open should affect the external card |
| 12:27.02 | SpeedEvil | but not the internal one |
| 12:27.04 | merlin1991 | yeah |
| 12:27.10 | SpeedEvil | Is the cover open? |
| 12:27.13 | merlin1991 | jup |
| 12:27.24 | pigeon | should one use mame or sdlmame on the n900? |
| 12:27.27 | SpeedEvil | Try putting it back on - see if there is any diffference |
| 12:27.40 | merlin1991 | I did, no difference |
| 12:28.04 | hcm | merlin1991: did you reboot after closing it? |
| 12:28.20 | hcm | and check dmesg for the same messages… |
| 12:28.37 | SpeedEvil | The cover sense is IIRC done with a magnet |
| 12:28.45 | SpeedEvil | which has been reported to fall off in some cases |
| 12:28.56 | SpeedEvil | but that still shouldn't affect the internal mmc |
| 12:29.06 | hcm | also the mmc cover? or only the camera cover? |
| 12:29.24 | SpeedEvil | the camera shutter is sensed by an IR sensor |
| 12:29.32 | SpeedEvil | see the white/black area on the back |
| 12:29.35 | SpeedEvil | of the slider |
| 12:30.10 | merlin1991 | hcm I did check dmesg and it said cover is closed, card is now acessible |
| 12:30.21 | merlin1991 | I'm trying it with an sd now |
| 12:31.23 | merlin1991 | I did put an sd in and now I have stuff in /proc/partitions |
| 12:31.39 | merlin1991 | I fear the internal one is dead |
| 12:31.46 | SpeedEvil | I'd say that's likely |
| 12:32.12 | SpeedEvil | you currently have no customisation showing up at all/ |
| 12:32.18 | merlin1991 | yeah |
| 12:32.27 | hcm | hmm looks like… is the clock error still in dmesg? |
| 12:32.32 | SpeedEvil | I'm unsure exactly what it will do with a broken mmc - I think it may recreate an empty one |
| 12:32.35 | SpeedEvil | the clock error is normal |
| 12:32.42 | SpeedEvil | an emtpy one in / |
| 12:32.48 | SpeedEvil | an empty home |
| 12:32.58 | hcm | oh ^^ ok… SpeedEvil do you know what it means? |
| 12:33.04 | SpeedEvil | no |
| 12:33.59 | merlin1991 | well I guess when I add a sd into the phone I should have 2 mmc devices in /dev but I have only 1 so I guess the hardware is broken |
| 12:34.00 | merlin1991 | yehaa |
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| 12:34.13 | SpeedEvil | I get two [ 60.366149] mmci-omap-hs mmci-omap-hs.0: Failed to get debounce clock |
| 12:34.19 | SpeedEvil | adjacent to each other. |
| 12:34.27 | SpeedEvil | :/ Was the phone in a case? |
| 12:34.32 | merlin1991 | nah |
| 12:34.41 | merlin1991 | only the phone, closed keyboard though |
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| 12:35.04 | merlin1991 | but still 110 cm shouldn't kill it freakin hell |
| 12:35.16 | SpeedEvil | I agree - ideally. |
| 12:35.31 | SpeedEvil | large chips can be quite fragile though. |
| 12:35.34 | SpeedEvil | What was it onto? |
| 12:35.41 | merlin1991 | when I shake it I also get a sound of loose parts :/ |
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| 12:36.02 | SpeedEvil | the slider is slightly loose on mine |
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| 12:36.20 | SpeedEvil | loose parts, with the back and battery out? |
| 12:36.30 | hcm | merlin1991: that doesn't sound good at all ^^ |
| 12:37.13 | hcm | btw, I don't have the debounce clock error |
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| 12:38.20 | rcg1 | merlin1991: this might be the "holder" for the memory card |
| 12:39.52 | rcg1 | merlin1991: though here it is only audible if you really "want" to hear it |
| 12:40.21 | merlin1991 | back and battery off |
| 12:40.25 | merlin1991 | and I have loose sounds |
| 12:40.38 | korhojoa | guys. i need immediate help. i'm in steep shit. |
| 12:40.44 | korhojoa | my jell-o shots have gone bad. |
| 12:41.08 | hcm | SpeedEvil: sorry, I also have the clock error after a fresh reboot. just wasn't present before |
| 12:41.09 | merlin1991 | but when I start unscrewing the front cover I'll loose my warranty, right? |
| 12:41.33 | rcg1 | merlin1991: and you can verify the loose sound is not coming from the pickups/cages for the sim or mmc card? |
| 12:41.41 | merlin1991 | nope holding them both |
| 12:42.30 | rcg1 | merlin1991: hmm that does indeed not sound well .. i for my self would _not_ start loosening screws or the like |
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| 12:42.49 | GAN900 | That wiki import thread is awesome. |
| 12:42.50 | korhojoa | I put in too much liquid (double amount, package size is half of the recipe) do you guys think that it's possible to fix them by heating up the mix and adding more gelatin? |
| 12:42.54 | merlin1991 | well I guess i'll visit a nokia shop then |
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| 12:46.53 | SpeedEvil | merlin1991: yes - unscrewing anything is bad. |
| 12:47.04 | SpeedEvil | korhojoa: yes. |
| 12:47.04 | merlin1991 | but it's fun todo :P |
| 12:47.16 | SpeedEvil | You can't fix it anyway |
| 12:47.19 | SpeedEvil | well - you could |
| 12:47.26 | SpeedEvil | but you'd need to get hard to source parts |
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| 12:47.29 | korhojoa | are you saying that it will or won't work? |
| 12:47.38 | korhojoa | i mean, jell-o is hard to find here, yes, but uh. |
| 12:47.42 | SpeedEvil | korhojoa: It will work |
| 12:47.43 | korhojoa | i did manage to acquire some |
| 12:47.49 | korhojoa | awwright! |
| 12:47.52 | SpeedEvil | korhojoa: I was meaning for merlin1991 |
| 12:47.54 | korhojoa | ah |
| 12:47.55 | korhojoa | D: |
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| 12:48.00 | korhojoa | now -> STORE |
| 12:48.06 | SpeedEvil | Whos problems cannot be solved by jello. |
| 12:48.11 | SpeedEvil | Though perhaps vodka may work. |
| 12:48.26 | Hukka | Vodkajello? |
| 12:49.28 | pigeon | hmm, strace is not in any of the maemo repo? |
| 12:50.00 | SpeedEvil | it's in tools repo, sorry |
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| 12:55.33 | pigeon | SpeedEvil: hmm sorry, where is that? |
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| 12:57.59 | merlin1991 | rofl @ nokia.com/repair |
| 12:58.23 | lcuk | SpeedEvil, jellobacon isnt so appealing |
| 12:58.25 | merlin1991 | I get a http 404 when I click search xD |
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| 13:08.53 | merlin1991 | when I run the backup app on the n900, where do the backups end up ? |
| 13:09.09 | GAN900 | eMMC |
| 13:09.35 | merlin1991 | good that means I should at least have the backup from updating to 1.1 |
| 13:10.25 | MohammadAG | or microSD if you chose that |
| 13:16.19 | merlin1991 | hm I wonder how I'll get it though |
| 13:16.29 | merlin1991 | filemanager tells me I have no files or folders, lmao |
| 13:17.15 | hcm | eMMC IS your defective chip, isn't it? |
| 13:17.42 | merlin1991 | is lost on what chip is wich one, anyone up to enlighten me? |
| 13:17.55 | jaska | broke down and bought an n900 :| |
| 13:18.03 | hcm | try looking for your backup with find via console, but chances are that it's lost… |
| 13:19.32 | hcm | afaik, MyDocs (the root of the graphical filemanager) and /opt are on the eMMC |
| 13:19.42 | MohammadAG | as well as swap |
| 13:19.55 | merlin1991 | uh oh, that means I lost it all :/ |
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| 13:20.25 | merlin1991 | btw my /opt is a link to /home/opt |
| 13:20.29 | merlin1991 | is that normal? |
| 13:20.33 | arachnist | yes |
| 13:20.34 | MohammadAG | yes |
| 13:20.58 | merlin1991 | any reason why that is so? |
| 13:21.00 | hcm | merlin1991: that's why I like scp'ing any new backups directly to my desktop computer… |
| 13:21.18 | MohammadAG | cause root is 256MB, /home is 2GBs |
| 13:21.27 | MohammadAG | /opt is needed for apps |
| 13:22.16 | merlin1991 | yeah well, you never think about backups before you actually loose data :/ |
| 13:23.11 | MohammadAG | scrolls up to see what the problem is |
| 13:23.23 | merlin1991 | emmc down |
| 13:23.35 | hcm | MohammadAG: eMMC is not found anymore, after N900 dropped |
| 13:23.35 | MohammadAG | how? |
| 13:23.48 | hcm | not in /dev |
| 13:23.49 | MohammadAG | could be the solders? |
| 13:24.04 | MohammadAG | well that confirms it |
| 13:24.22 | MohammadAG | if it isn't in dev i doubt you can recover anything |
| 13:24.29 | merlin1991 | doh |
| 13:24.30 | MohammadAG | unless you try to resolder it |
| 13:24.38 | MohammadAG | was it 1 drop? |
| 13:24.41 | merlin1991 | jup |
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| 13:24.54 | MohammadAG | cause tehkseven's device survived 9 drops iirc |
| 13:25.09 | hcm | nice benchmark :D |
| 13:25.10 | MohammadAG | 2/3 of which were on concrete |
| 13:25.12 | lcuk | *Facepalm* how you you assume its solder |
| 13:25.27 | merlin1991 | was sitting in the army in the bed, turned the phone off, wanted to put it into the locker dropped it about 110cm, turned it on the next day and had the problems |
| 13:25.49 | MohammadAG | lcuk, if it's not in /dev i don't see any other explanation |
| 13:26.20 | merlin1991 | I thought that too, I just hoped someone here would have some crazy idea that might fix it :P |
| 13:26.29 | MohammadAG | it shouldn't have broke tbh |
| 13:26.34 | lcuk | broken cracked bendy circuit boards |
| 13:26.39 | MohammadAG | -tbh, not the best word |
| 13:26.54 | lcuk | same as you can drown in a teacup |
| 13:26.57 | lcuk | \@/ |
| 13:27.03 | MohammadAG | lcuk, i'm a bit more optimistic xD |
| 13:27.09 | hcm | well, anything, but most certainly hardware related… |
| 13:27.20 | lcuk | so am i, if ever in a teacup and drowning, i would drink for england |
| 13:27.21 | merlin1991 | yea well I'll get it to a nokia shop, dunno though how I'll do that, since I'm only home on weekends doh |
| 13:27.41 | lcuk | merlin1991, that would be your best line of action |
| 13:28.04 | MohammadAG | hmm, I wonder what error flashing the eMMC would throw |
| 13:28.18 | lcuk | jake was swueeling like a wounded seal a minute ago :( |
| 13:28.37 | lcuk | he dropped toy on his toe |
| 13:28.45 | lcuk | squeeling ^ |
| 13:30.07 | MohammadAG | Jake? |
| 13:32.18 | lcuk | youngest |
| 13:32.39 | lcuk | we were hunting for a piece of his track |
| 13:32.45 | crashanddie | guys, how can I download a SVN repo if I only have the web access? |
| 13:33.04 | lcuk | svn uses http to do its download? |
| 13:33.14 | lcuk | svn co http://sdfjsjsfjdsjsfjdsjsdf |
| 13:33.14 | crashanddie | http://svn.ogsteam.fr/trunk/ogspy/ |
| 13:33.40 | lcuk | yeah i just checked it out |
| 13:34.59 | crashanddie | ta :) |
| 13:35.10 | crashanddie | I'm such a tool with rcs |
| 13:35.35 | lcuk | s/with rcs// |
| 13:35.45 | MohammadAG | LOL |
| 13:36.27 | MohammadAG | you made him leave :| |
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| 13:37.41 | lcuk | its seb :p im sure he will have forgotten something else |
| 13:39.09 | frals | 20C and clear blue sky \o/ |
| 13:39.58 | lcuk | volcano ash scaring hte clouds away? |
| 13:40.02 | merlin1991 | I really wonder where the details dialog for memory in settings has it's 455,8 mb from (it tells me thats the total space on the device) |
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| 13:40.42 | frals | lcuk: most likely! either way im not complaining :D |
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| 13:44.50 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, "Nokia N900"? |
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| 13:45.10 | merlin1991 | how do you mean that questions MohammadAG |
| 13:45.26 | MohammadAG | Nokia N900/MyDocs? |
| 13:45.51 | lcuk | merlin1991, type "df" and pastebin the result |
| 13:45.59 | merlin1991 | that's gonna by funny |
| 13:46.15 | merlin1991 | I can't get the browser running because of no swap :D |
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| 13:48.56 | merlin1991 | hm how do I copy out of xterm? |
| 13:49.12 | lcuk | click the cursor thing, select a range |
| 13:49.19 | merlin1991 | and then? |
| 13:49.22 | lcuk | then in the menu is a copy item |
| 13:51.02 | merlin1991 | hm browser not able to run and no pc to scp too, damn |
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| 13:51.21 | lcuk | take a photo from outside |
| 13:51.49 | merlin1991 | nah typing is fu |
| 13:51.50 | merlin1991 | n |
| 13:52.01 | lcuk | even better when you can do it :p |
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| 13:54.28 | merlin1991 | http://pastebin.com/iH95y6dq |
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| 13:54.33 | F66F | hi |
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| 14:05.42 | dhq1 | how do i get offline files for maep |
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| 14:06.16 | SpeedEvil | you can get it to download stuff I think - wander roundthe UI |
| 14:06.21 | SpeedEvil | I don't have it installed ATM |
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| 14:06.45 | dhq1 | SpeedEvil: what do you use |
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| 14:07.01 | SpeedEvil | Generally osm2go |
| 14:07.12 | dhq1 | is it good |
| 14:07.17 | SpeedEvil | which isn't really meant as a map display tool as such |
| 14:07.39 | dhq1 | what does it do |
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| 14:08.28 | markinfo | If there is no memory card in nokia n810 it is not able to connect over USB Cabel from desktop PC to the n810 and read data? |
| 14:08.48 | SpeedEvil | openstreetmap editore |
| 14:08.50 | markinfo | there should be internal memory too |
| 14:09.10 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: o/ |
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| 14:10.15 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 14:10.17 | markinfo | hm - welll it is. |
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| 14:11.15 | dhq | SpeedEvil: my connection rest ......... ok i have a gprs connection it only allows port 80 how do i get my other apps to use this |
| 14:11.21 | markinfo | I have here two nokia n810 - but one of them is not able to connect over USB. Internal memory is not shown. |
| 14:11.28 | dhq | **reset |
| 14:12.47 | SpeedEvil | no clue |
| 14:13.22 | dhq | SpeedEvil: is there any software to push all connections to a proxy |
| 14:13.28 | SpeedEvil | markinfo: On the n900 (I know) internal memory is not shown. For various reasons - wrong FS format - it would have to be readonly while exposed, ... - exposing internal memory isn't trivial |
| 14:13.34 | SpeedEvil | dhq: sorry - not sure |
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| 14:14.34 | markinfo | nokia 810 shows after connection over USB cabel "unable to connect via USB. Memory card in use: Internal memory card" |
| 14:14.51 | markinfo | i have last firmware OS2008 |
| 14:15.36 | markinfo | the seconds n810 connect without problems. |
| 14:15.54 | markinfo | is it necessary to install something? |
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| 14:16.24 | markinfo | what about "usbcontrol" ? |
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| 14:29.35 | markinfo | it is strange - sometimes - very seldom it connects. |
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| 14:32.04 | horrorschow | hello, somone from germany? |
| 14:32.16 | horrorschow | i need help, for my bricked n900 |
| 14:32.22 | SpeedEvil | how bricked? |
| 14:32.37 | SpeedEvil | ~flashing |
| 14:32.38 | infobot | methinks flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 14:33.30 | horrorschow | mhh how should i tell you.. |
| 14:33.42 | horrorschow | i try it but my english is not the best |
| 14:34.10 | SpeedEvil | What does it do? |
| 14:34.11 | horrorschow | it shows the three starting led's an than reboots |
| 14:34.21 | SpeedEvil | that's not bricked then |
| 14:34.35 | SpeedEvil | see the above instructions - reflash and it'll be OK |
| 14:34.42 | SpeedEvil | (probably - assuming no hardware fault) |
| 14:34.54 | horrorschow | when i flash the device i got an error |
| 14:35.21 | horrorschow | invalid fiasco sub image <00> |
| 14:35.37 | horrorschow | what does it mean? |
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| 14:35.59 | horrorschow | i'm on win7 |
| 14:37.48 | horrorschow | someone here who can help me, i don't know what to do, because of that error message "Invalid FIASCO subimage id <00>" |
| 14:39.26 | SpeedEvil | Where are you downloading the image from? |
| 14:39.35 | markinfo | can be external memory card on n810 on the fly removed? |
| 14:39.46 | markinfo | or inserted? |
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| 14:41.55 | horrorschow | i downloaded it from the link of the maemo.org sit (where you have to tell your emai) |
| 14:42.17 | horrorschow | memory is inserted |
| 14:42.41 | horrorschow | but whens its out the same message came |
| 14:43.25 | Arkenoi | which audio player to choose? |
| 14:43.44 | horrorschow | there is no flashing process, before it will flash there comes the message "INVALID FIASCO SUBIMAGE...." |
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| 14:45.53 | horrorschow | hello someone an idea |
| 14:45.55 | arachnist | horrorschow: redownload the image |
| 14:46.09 | arachnist | horrorschow: and try doing it under a proper operating system, not windows |
| 14:46.37 | horrorschow | so i should try it with knoppix (linux) |
| 14:46.46 | horrorschow | ? |
| 14:46.56 | arachnist | might be a good idea |
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| 14:47.47 | horrorschow | ok, and i just need only the image not the emmc file |
| 14:47.53 | horrorschow | ? |
| 14:48.21 | arachnist | you want only the image, unless you want to get rid of all of your settings |
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| 14:49.32 | horrorschow | @arachnist: thanks |
| 14:49.44 | horrorschow | i wil try it again an hope it will work |
| 14:50.14 | horrorschow | so you think der was a brick in the image or downloadprocess... |
| 14:50.24 | horrorschow | ? |
| 14:50.50 | arachnist | i'd suspect that the windows is faulty here |
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| 15:01.33 | horrorschow | ok |
| 15:01.37 | horrorschow | zhanks |
| 15:01.41 | horrorschow | thanks |
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| 15:05.38 | markinfo | is it possible to connect to nokia n810 external USB mouse - keyboard? there is some program "usbcontrol" |
| 15:06.42 | MohammadAG_ | yes, USB OTG |
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| 15:07.18 | satmd | staff: |
| 15:07.23 | satmd | animooo: is spamming in private |
| 15:07.38 | satmd | on join |
| 15:07.49 | markinfo | MohammadAG_, do i need special cabel adapter? |
| 15:08.23 | MohammadAG_ | markinfo, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9BsGx_nJU4 <-- full tut |
| 15:08.30 | markinfo | or there is necessary to use special USB peripheras? |
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| 15:08.57 | MohammadAG_ | satmd, you might be better off joining #freenode and asking there, channel ops can only ban him but he can still PM |
| 15:09.04 | satmd | MohammadAG_: did :) |
| 15:09.09 | MohammadAG_ | :) |
| 15:10.03 | animooo | wew |
| 15:10.34 | markinfo | Well, F-F USB ADAPTER works it also with normal USB Mouse? |
| 15:10.47 | MohammadAG_ | I guess so |
| 15:10.50 | woodong50__ | hey here is n800 taking? |
| 15:10.54 | MohammadAG_ | I never had an N810, but yes it should work |
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| 15:12.33 | woodong50__ | sorry but i am drink some beer |
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| 15:13.13 | markinfo | some small external USB keyboard would be nice with n810. Even Printer would be possible? |
| 15:13.48 | MohammadAG_ | if CUPS was ported yes |
| 15:13.58 | satmd | note to anyone in here: whoever clicked the links of animooo |
| 15:14.04 | satmd | they contain malware |
| 15:14.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | sure |
| 15:14.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | friggin chanserv doesn't accept akick from me |
| 15:14.46 | F66F | hi i could need an smal hint how to start my qt programms on the N900 with the default theme ... every time I start it no it looks like on the desktop |
| 15:14.48 | MohammadAG_ | /ns group? |
| 15:14.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | GeneralAntilles: PING |
| 15:15.00 | MohammadAG_ | unless your nicks are already grouped |
| 15:15.12 | DocScrutinizer51 | GeneralAntilles: please chanserv akick animoo |
| 15:15.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG_: is grouped |
| 15:15.35 | MohammadAG_ | he left |
| 15:15.40 | MohammadAG_ | * animooo (~animooo@fm-ip-118.136.243.201.fast.net.id) has left #maemo |
| 15:16.01 | DocScrutinizer51 | no reason NOT to set a akick |
| 15:16.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | friggin bloody spammer asshole |
| 15:16.18 | t-tan | nice: wine on N900 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMzTFMpAQVM |
| 15:16.23 | MohammadAG_ | autokick? why not just /ban him? |
| 15:17.00 | t-tan | err http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3v4YC9RT-g |
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| 15:18.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | satmd: any info about type of malware |
| 15:18.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | ? |
| 15:19.56 | DocScrutinizer | darn |
| 15:20.09 | *** mode/#maemo [+o DocScrutinizer] by ChanServ |
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| 15:20.50 | DocScrutinizer | anybody got a whois of animoo? |
| 15:21.05 | DocScrutinizer | aah |
| 15:21.07 | DocScrutinizer | nm |
| 15:21.12 | F66F | hm? |
| 15:21.16 | satmd | no more needed |
| 15:21.22 | satmd | I handed it to freenode staff |
| 15:21.23 | MohammadAG_ | animooo@fm-ip-118.136.243.201.fast.net.id |
| 15:21.31 | *** mode/#maemo [+b animooo!*@*] by DocScrutinizer |
| 15:21.53 | MohammadAG_ | satmd, he's still connected :) |
| 15:22.23 | MohammadAG_ | I did a /query, when he's killed it should say animooo has quit |
| 15:22.42 | Jaffa | t-tan: Would be a bit nicer if the damned thing was in focus |
| 15:22.46 | *** mode/#maemo [-b *!animooo@111.94.116] by DocScrutinizer |
| 15:23.16 | DocScrutinizer | satmd: thanks |
| 15:23.18 | F66F | i have an silly question .. . I installed my own qt applicaton but everytime I start it from the Console it looks so different ... |
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| 15:23.33 | t-tan | Jaffa: would even better if he could give us the binaries to replicate it... |
| 15:23.51 | DocScrutinizer | this friggin moron made me jump up a nd leave my coffee :-(( |
| 15:23.54 | Jaffa | t-tan: Well, indeed |
| 15:24.19 | F66F | how 2 make it looking as normal |
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| 15:24.41 | *** mode/#maemo [-o DocScrutinizer] by ChanServ |
| 15:24.47 | DocScrutinizer | waves |
| 15:24.55 | trumee | anybody saw this http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=659580&postcount=80 , awesome |
| 15:25.03 | MohammadAG_ | F66F, run-standalone.sh? |
| 15:25.07 | FIQ | How many colors does N900 have? |
| 15:25.22 | DocScrutinizer | satmd: any details about which type of malware he's spreading on that site? |
| 15:25.24 | FIQ | ^24 or ^16? |
| 15:25.32 | F66F | MohammadAG_: standalone.sh? |
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| 15:25.51 | FIQ | hm |
| 15:25.52 | FIQ | nvm |
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| 15:25.59 | trumee | finally, the nokia headset-controls will work |
| 15:26.05 | MohammadAG_ | run-standalone.sh appbinary |
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| 15:27.24 | DocScrutinizer | trumee: HUH? |
| 15:27.26 | F66F | MohammadAG_: i dont used usb networking the application is hard installed |
| 15:27.33 | F66F | via dhkp |
| 15:27.53 | markinfo | There is no acces on internal data (nokia_N810) in n810 over USB cabel? Only on Internal memory? |
| 15:28.03 | trumee | DocScrutinizer: remote control buttons on the headset |
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| 15:28.48 | MohammadAG_ | F66F, no idea then |
| 15:29.07 | DocScrutinizer | trumee: aaah yes. the ne silly holdbutton. Was easy |
| 15:29.12 | DocScrutinizer | one |
| 15:29.12 | F66F | MohammadAG_: i installed it via dhkp |
| 15:29.27 | F66F | the ap isnt in the app menu |
| 15:29.37 | pupnik | anyone else getting probs with SDL_WM_GrabInput |
| 15:29.44 | DocScrutinizer | thought you're talking about controlS (plural) |
| 15:29.44 | F66F | i can start it from the console |
| 15:29.52 | F66F | but it looks so fucking ... |
| 15:30.10 | DocScrutinizer | anyway, my coffee getting cold. bbl |
| 15:30.16 | MohammadAG_ | F66F, did you make a .desktop file? |
| 15:30.24 | F66F | no |
| 15:30.33 | F66F | where 2 place it? |
| 15:30.46 | MohammadAG_ | /usr/share/applications/hildon/ |
| 15:30.52 | F66F | k |
| 15:30.53 | MohammadAG_ | how do you expect it to show up in the menu? |
| 15:31.01 | MohammadAG_ | if there's no desktop file |
| 15:31.16 | F66F | i tought might the install would do that |
| 15:31.17 | F66F | *G* |
| 15:31.33 | F66F | but im really new @ such things |
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| 15:33.30 | Macer | hm |
| 15:33.47 | Macer | i have like 2 weeks left on my giganews acct |
| 15:33.56 | Macer | i should get all the wii games i can |
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| 15:37.40 | SpeedEvil | Just as backups for your existing media of course. |
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| 15:38.13 | Macer | of course |
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| 15:42.37 | pupnik | http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2010-May/026207.html SDL and grabbing the volume buttons |
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| 15:46.13 | Macer | openarena is pretty good |
| 15:47.13 | F66F | MohammadAG_: building an Desktop files worked 4 me ... |
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| 15:49.55 | GAN900 | Sad how totally MeeGo has killed maemo.org as an effective collaboration space. |
| 15:50.34 | Macer | has it? |
| 15:50.42 | GAN900 | Pretty much |
| 15:50.43 | Macer | i thought meego was just an idea |
| 15:50.55 | Macer | like rome in gladiator |
| 15:50.56 | GAN900 | Everybody's either in a holding pattern or pissed off. |
| 15:51.03 | Macer | haha |
| 15:51.15 | Macer | dont know where it is going huh? |
| 15:51.34 | Macer | why dev for maemo when meego might replace it |
| 15:52.15 | GAN900 | Right |
| 15:52.29 | GAN900 | Or work on the website or anything community related. |
| 15:52.36 | Macer | heh |
| 15:52.40 | Macer | blame nokia |
| 15:53.15 | Macer | blame Stskeeps |
| 15:53.20 | Macer | :-D |
| 15:53.23 | Stskeeps | what, i've had my beating thread |
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| 15:53.40 | Macer | haha |
| 15:53.41 | Stskeeps | and i would like to say that i pissed off the n8x0 users so much they started actually dominating the 'new posts' section of tmo |
| 15:53.45 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 15:54.11 | Macer | haha |
| 15:54.20 | Macer | see? just blame Stskeeps |
| 15:54.33 | Macer | i cant find my n810 |
| 15:54.38 | Macer | i lost it haha |
| 15:55.14 | Macer | i think i might get a 2nd n900 when they come down tho if people can figure out this meego/maemo bullshit |
| 15:56.00 | pupnik | If the screen gets a pressure fix, one could buy them just for art |
| 15:56.05 | Macer | maybe this running around with their heads chopped off thing will get the n900 to come down to $100 |
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| 15:56.28 | BugBlue | I'm about to put android on my N810.. just because it might make it more usefull |
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| 15:56.39 | Macer | BugBlue: haha |
| 15:56.43 | Macer | i lost mine |
| 15:56.56 | Macer | i have been looking for it but have no idea where it has gone |
| 15:57.12 | Macer | i might have lost it in my move 4 months ago |
| 15:57.22 | Macer | it was just collecting dust anyways |
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| 15:57.46 | Macer | worthless nowadays i suppose although i did want to do the carmman thing |
| 15:58.31 | simoneb_ | would it be possible to install finch on maemo/the n900, since finch does exist only for debian? if yes, which version of finch should i try to install (lenny, sid...)? |
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| 15:59.07 | Macer | GAN900: there is always opendeb ;) |
| 15:59.10 | Macer | er |
| 15:59.13 | Macer | easydeb |
| 15:59.36 | JayJay_ | I'm tireddd |
| 15:59.45 | simoneb_ | Macer: was that addressed to me? |
| 15:59.54 | arachnist | nope |
| 16:01.04 | luke-jr | BugBlue: LOL |
| 16:01.33 | Macer | luke-jr: maybe he should install wastedlifetoo |
| 16:01.38 | Macer | uhm.. gentoo |
| 16:01.54 | JayJay_ | Good Morning guy |
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| 16:02.32 | Macer | anyways.. laundry :) |
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| 16:09.08 | simoneb_ | uhm, ok, i think i *may* install finch for lenny on the n900, but it depends on libc6 version 2.7, and maemo currently has 2.5 (among a few other missing dependencies) ... any chance i could update that? |
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| 16:15.15 | lbt | hmm, where is HILDONDESKTOP_LIBS defined for autotools |
| 16:16.26 | SpeedEvil | simeoni: you're aware of the easy debian chroot? |
| 16:16.49 | luke-jr | simoneb_: uh, just recompile it for libc 2.5? |
| 16:17.52 | jaska | what sort of mutant ears one has to have to use the default headphones? |
| 16:18.03 | pupnik | you could use http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/finch simoneb_ |
| 16:19.15 | simoneb_ | jaska: i suggest you softly pull your ear up when you put in the headphone |
| 16:20.07 | simoneb_ | pupnik: no armel build though :( |
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| 16:23.39 | F66F | how to include my icon and the Desktop file in my N900 Qt projekt? |
| 16:23.50 | F66F | is there an beginner tutorial ... |
| 16:24.17 | F66F | ?? |
| 16:24.40 | MohammadAG_ | icons go in /usr/share/pixmaps, icon for the desktop file is specified as Icon=filename in the .desktop file, package them as a deb and put them in -devel |
| 16:24.47 | MohammadAG_ | all of that is in the wiki |
| 16:25.13 | pupnik | !packaging |
| 16:25.21 | F66F | MohammadAG_: do you habe a link? plz |
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| 16:26.15 | MohammadAG_ | wiki.maemo.org |
| 16:26.22 | MohammadAG_ | ~packaging |
| 16:26.22 | infobot | Ask me about ipkg |
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| 16:27.10 | F66F | MohammadAG_: thx |
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| 16:55.56 | pupnik | many lurkers |
| 16:57.27 | MohammadAG_ | indeed |
| 16:58.13 | SpeedEvil | lurks. |
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| 17:06.29 | hawai`i | NO |
| 17:06.30 | hawai`i | NO LURKERS |
| 17:07.26 | aquatix | we can't have that |
| 17:08.00 | F66F | woot? |
| 17:08.16 | hawai`i | splash |
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| 17:15.45 | ShadowJK | there's something funny with N900's mpeg4 encoder... the videos have slight artifacting when viewed on anything else besides N900's builtind media player |
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| 17:19.05 | LowRider | Brand New!!Notebooks and LCD TVs.Discounts up to 30%.Our Special Limited Time Offers Up To May, 22. The newest electronics only http://www.elplace.com |
| 17:21.06 | DocScrutinizer51 | wtf |
| 17:21.18 | DocScrutinizer51 | we got spamday? |
| 17:22.03 | jaska | oh, some bot caught the spammer |
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| 17:23.17 | luke-jr | lol |
| 17:24.42 | GAN900 | I need a TV! |
| 17:25.05 | MohammadAG_ | lol |
| 17:25.08 | luke-jr | get it somewhere else plz |
| 17:25.14 | luke-jr | not to mention, the link is dead |
| 17:25.26 | MohammadAG_ | did the bot take that down too? |
| 17:25.56 | Macer | 95.211.132.69 Amsterdam, NL /get_orders_list.php |
| 17:25.59 | Macer | haha |
| 17:26.02 | Macer | l33t hacker |
| 17:26.51 | LJN900 | . |
| 17:27.18 | Macer | wonder how well trying to fetch /get_orders_list.php has worked out |
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| 17:28.02 | Macer | is reminded of wargames with the modem line fetching app |
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| 17:32.44 | DocScrutinizer | sends "+++ATHrn" to macer |
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| 17:41.18 | GAN900 | Jaffa, first of all, GMT isn't a thing. :P |
| 17:41.24 | GAN900 | Second, +1? |
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| 18:17.01 | otubo | Hello all, I am trying to package a python module, and in the packaging process it calls the compiler but the sbox can't find it: |
| 18:17.04 | otubo | sb_gcc_wrapper (gcc): /scratchbox/compilers/cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7/bin/sbox-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: No such file or directory |
| 18:17.29 | otubo | But the file exists in that specific path, does anyone have a clue? |
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| 18:17.45 | PhonicUK | hey all |
| 18:18.32 | MohammadAG_ | \o PhonicUK |
| 18:18.37 | PhonicUK | lo |
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| 18:23.24 | otubo | First of all, I don't understand why it needs to call the compiler if it is a python module. |
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| 18:26.04 | satmd | otubo: you also get that message if the system cannot execute the file because of missing libs or architectural problems |
| 18:26.13 | satmd | like arm on x86 and vice versa |
| 18:28.10 | otubo | satmd, this is the full log http://pastebin.com/PsdHnTDx, I am inside the sbox environment and I just get this message in this situation. |
| 18:28.40 | otubo | satmd, but if I call the the compiler using its full path it works fine |
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| 18:31.02 | satmd | mhm, I have not used scratchbox enough to help more than what I know about general cross-compiling |
| 18:31.03 | otubo | like this http://pastebin.com/YgGZEJiH |
| 18:32.36 | otubo | satmd, all right, no problem and thanks for you help on a saturday afternoom :) |
| 18:32.48 | satmd | 20:32 here :p |
| 18:33.02 | otubo | yeah, a little worse than :P |
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| 18:35.21 | lbt | X-Fade: http://build.obs.maemo.org/project/monitor?project=home%3AAdmin |
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| 18:47.19 | Jaffa | GAN900: GMT *is* a thing |
| 18:47.42 | ShadowJK | But UK is GMT+1 right now, aka BST, right? :P |
| 18:47.50 | Jaffa | GAN900: Anyway, +1 is Google being shit; not me. The vCard is right; as were the times, in UTC, on doodle.com |
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| 18:47.54 | Jaffa | ShadowJK: Yeah; exactly. |
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| 18:48.42 | Stskeeps | n900 is a wonderful tool when standing in long queues |
| 18:50.30 | MohammadAG_ | till the battery runs out |
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| 18:51.31 | PhonicUK | N900 + irreco remote + electronics store + wall of TVs = FUN! |
| 18:51.31 | Surfa | that long lines dont exist |
| 18:52.16 | ShadowJK | PhonicUK, that's evil genius material |
| 18:52.19 | jaska | lol |
| 18:52.24 | ruskie | MohammadAG_, lol... hasn't happened to me yet... I charge it every evening but generally don't have any need to do so during the day |
| 18:52.24 | PhonicUK | no no, evil genius material is: |
| 18:52.58 | PhonicUK | Start "Mobile Hotspot", Rename hotspot to "Free WiFi Internet", Turn it on, Launch "Wireshark" packet sniffer |
| 18:53.11 | PhonicUK | sit in Starbucks, wait for fun |
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| 18:54.02 | MohammadAG_ | ruskie, I used up 4 batteries yesterday |
| 18:54.33 | ruskie | MohammadAG_, wth were you doing? |
| 18:54.47 | MohammadAG_ | tbh idk :P |
| 18:54.55 | PhonicUK | he was torrenting porn! |
| 18:55.09 | ruskie | I need to make quite an effort to spend a battery to empty in a day |
| 18:55.17 | ruskie | and I tend to listen to music 8h per day@work |
| 18:55.20 | MohammadAG_ | nah, warez ftw for illegal stuff *cough* |
| 18:55.43 | MohammadAG_ | damn ME, couldn't find a BH-214 here |
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| 18:57.05 | MohammadAG_ | Cannot find required GStreamer-0.10 plugin 'gconfaudiosink'. grrr |
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| 19:03.55 | pupnik | the libqt situation is starting to be more aggravating |
| 19:06.00 | lcuk | Jaffa, make sure before the meeting theres enough pings around i want to come along |
| 19:06.02 | lbt | lcuk: from maemo.org OBS: libliqbase scheduled succeeded |
| 19:06.14 | lcuk | and suddenly there was an lbt |
| 19:06.29 | lcuk | you built it more than me lol |
| 19:06.48 | lbt | is uploading Extras to OBS ... |
| 19:07.00 | lcuk | deb OBS? |
| 19:07.06 | lbt | Fremantle |
| 19:07.09 | lcuk | or converting on the go |
| 19:07.11 | lcuk | ahh |
| 19:07.21 | lcuk | i thought some magic was there |
| 19:07.23 | lbt | same OBS will do Harmattan |
| 19:07.35 | lbt | and maybe... (ideally) MeeGo |
| 19:07.36 | lcuk | cool |
| 19:07.42 | lbt | same tarball |
| 19:07.54 | lcuk | multiple arch, multiple package, multiple OS |
| 19:08.06 | lbt | yep |
| 19:08.15 | lcuk | :) |
| 19:08.24 | lcuk | is there an uber quick native arm system around |
| 19:08.34 | lcuk | ie can i get a beagleboard on steroids |
| 19:08.48 | lbt | no, but you can run OBS workers on ARM 'blades' |
| 19:09.03 | lcuk | can i get one of these blades |
| 19:09.08 | lcuk | or a sheath of them |
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| 19:09.16 | lbt | cross-compile |
| 19:09.27 | lcuk | bah adds complexity |
| 19:09.46 | lcuk | i wonder tho |
| 19:09.56 | lbt | nah, adds availability and accessibility |
| 19:10.20 | lcuk | sure |
| 19:10.30 | lbt | it's a tad 'selfish' to do it in a way that only works for you :) |
| 19:10.37 | lcuk | it just fries my mind - especially when i cant run on the system i build it on |
| 19:10.44 | lcuk | emulation cant yuv properly |
| 19:11.06 | lcuk | never has been able to |
| 19:11.08 | Jaffa | lcuk: will try to - but I'm slammed at work at the moment |
| 19:11.12 | lbt | yuv? |
| 19:11.22 | lcuk | lbt build/run cycles |
| 19:11.27 | Jaffa | Right; should try and find something to snack on in this London hotel. |
| 19:11.31 | lcuk | i could do it native x86 |
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| 19:12.06 | johnsq | Hi |
| 19:12.06 | lbt | Jaffa: I'm uploading Extras to OBS ... |
| 19:12.23 | lbt | just to (hopefully) cheer you up |
| 19:12.26 | Jaffa | lbt: saw; cool :-) |
| 19:12.32 | Jaffa | will try and catch you later. |
| 19:12.37 | lbt | np |
| 19:12.56 | Jaffa | Or, I might take advantage of the hotel's free BluRay rental and watch Inglourious Basterds. |
| 19:13.43 | frals | that flick is awesome :D |
| 19:17.38 | lcuk | Jaffa, isnt your house near london :P |
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| 19:25.13 | lcuk | was doctor who worth watching? |
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| 19:27.37 | yabba | Is here anyone using gentoo? |
| 19:27.57 | johnsq | yabba: yes |
| 19:28.49 | yabba | Do it support mobile broadband in the out of box install? Like ubuntu has done since 8.10 (if I remember correct) |
| 19:29.05 | johnsq | yabba: sorry only on n810 |
| 19:29.50 | yabba | Aaaah, :P darm, I just go pissed of with this new ubuntu and thinking to change distro. I just need to know that |
| 19:30.13 | yabba | so to => #gentoo |
| 19:30.23 | luke-jr | "mobile broadband" is not a technical/meaningful term |
| 19:30.29 | tuxer | no it doesn't |
| 19:30.44 | luke-jr | Gentoo doesn't have a box install |
| 19:31.05 | yabba | ok, so I need wired connection to get mobile working? |
| 19:32.19 | _llll_ | what do you mean? you seem to be making someunspoken assumptions |
| 19:32.34 | tuxer | I would recommend that, although maybe install cd can use mobile... you could try |
| 19:32.59 | PhonicUK | has anyone else ever taken their N900, opened up the stand, and stuck 2 fingers through so its like a massive ring? |
| 19:33.28 | luke-jr | CD? in a tablet? |
| 19:33.29 | yabba | Oh, I mean can I use my N900 as a modem in gentoo right after install, because I don't have wired internet at home so I can't install packages from internet. |
| 19:33.43 | luke-jr | PhonicUK: I've worn it on my full hand.. |
| 19:33.53 | luke-jr | yabba: obviously that depends on what you install |
| 19:33.58 | PhonicUK | eeh, how does that work? |
| 19:34.13 | luke-jr | PhonicUK: just slide my hand through it |
| 19:34.25 | luke-jr | N900 might be too small, dunno |
| 19:34.29 | PhonicUK | that makes no sense |
| 19:34.38 | yabba | I thinking that gentoo 10.1 liveDVD is only option for me |
| 19:34.51 | luke-jr | yabba: how do you plan to put a DVD in your N900? |
| 19:35.15 | yabba | luke-jr, Ach, to my laptop, replacing ubuntu |
| 19:35.17 | fraggeln | luke-jr: nfs-mount? D: |
| 19:35.41 | luke-jr | yabba: well, you can't install Gentoo at all without a network connection I think |
| 19:35.52 | luke-jr | I imagine the LiveDVD would have PPP |
| 19:36.01 | yabba | And if we could have usb-host mode, it could be done with external dvd/cd |
| 19:36.07 | jacekowski | you can install gentoo without network |
| 19:36.12 | luke-jr | yabba: you can't. |
| 19:36.35 | jacekowski | you will just have to get portage copy from somewhere + source packages |
| 19:36.37 | yabba | luke-jr, whynot? |
| 19:36.49 | luke-jr | yabba: it's not wired properly for host mode |
| 19:37.00 | luke-jr | jacekowski: same difference |
| 19:37.29 | jacekowski | besides, you can use n900 in that network mode |
| 19:37.36 | jacekowski | and use it as http proxy |
| 19:37.42 | yabba | jacekowski, ok, so I think it is some other distro then :P |
| 19:38.01 | luke-jr | yabba: as I said, a LiveDVD *should* have PPP |
| 19:38.16 | jacekowski | gentoo is pita |
| 19:38.22 | luke-jr | if necessary, you can install Gentoo from Ubuntu ;p |
| 19:40.43 | yabba | luke-jr, If I can choose, I could get win7, but for this laptop it is waste of money (this laptop is time to time more the useless brick than Apple 3 was) |
| 19:40.56 | luke-jr | yabba: it is always a waste of money |
| 19:42.53 | yabba | luke-jr, no I don't think so |
| 19:43.35 | luke-jr | your problem :) |
| 19:43.53 | yabba | vista was waste of money (and the reason why I started to use linux), but because I love to play games (and hate to fight and wait whit wine) windows is also a choice |
| 19:44.05 | _llll_ | the guy's considering gentoo, "waste" is presumably not a wor dhe has a good understanding of |
| 19:44.21 | johnsq | lucky that there will be less games for it |
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| 19:45.22 | GAN900 | Jaffa, yeah, I'm pretty sure I forgot about DST. :/ |
| 19:46.47 | luke-jr | yabba: as if games are exclusive to Windows |
| 19:47.26 | luke-jr | GAN900: was DST today?? |
| 19:47.40 | luke-jr | that would explain why my alarm clocks didn't wake me up until 9 |
| 19:49.23 | yabba | luke-jr, sadly thats true, but I put all my hopes in steam. |
| 19:49.39 | luke-jr | steam? |
| 19:49.49 | luke-jr | not sure it's a good idea to boil water under your tablet |
| 19:51.13 | yabba | :P |
| 19:51.40 | yabba | Valve steam http://store.steampowered.com/ |
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| 19:52.15 | yabba | And no, last thing the very last thing (even die before) is, that I would take a Mac |
| 19:52.17 | luke-jr | proprietary crap? worthless |
| 19:54.11 | luke-jr | also http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=valve_steam_announcement&num=1 |
| 19:55.49 | yabba | luke-jr, that's old news, but we still need to wait (same thing with voddler) and it is not helping me at the moment |
| 19:56.05 | luke-jr | so get some *good* games |
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| 20:10.06 | LowRider | Discounts!! Our Special Limited Time Offers Up To May,22!!! Notebooks,Plasma and LCD TV's.Buy your electronic needs at our unique prices. Laptop Sony VAIO® VGN-FW590FFD-575,57$!!!Apple MacBook® Air MC234LL/A-695,27$!!! http://www.elplace.com/ |
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| 20:19.44 | range | I bet they don't deliver to Yurp. |
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| 20:22.56 | jaska | riding pretty low there |
| 20:23.09 | jaska | now to get rid of the quickbar in terminal :| |
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| 20:24.25 | jaska | google doesnt seem to be my friend, and its not disableable in menu like in n810 |
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| 20:31.29 | jaska | aah... gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/xterm/toolbar -t bool "false" |
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| 20:38.03 | Toba | jaska: did you figure out how to get rid of the quickbar? |
| 20:38.29 | jaska | gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/xterm/toolbar -t bool "false" did it for me in fullscreen mode |
| 20:38.31 | Toba | its using so much real estate.... |
| 20:38.37 | Toba | .... oh |
| 20:38.48 | jaska | ctrl-backspace still works to get out |
| 20:39.03 | Toba | nice |
| 20:39.24 | jaska | forgot it was called keybar... after that searching actually helped |
| 20:41.35 | DocScrutinizer | xterm? you're mad? ctrl-cr |
| 20:43.04 | Toba | sweet, thanks |
| 20:43.20 | jaska | mad? how? |
| 20:44.59 | jaska | hadnt realized the usb connector was same size as n810, dont need to keep both cables attached :D |
| 20:48.50 | pupnik | thanks for orp packaging MohammadAG_ |
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| 20:53.27 | DocScrutinizer | jaska: they're not. N810 has an AB-receptacle, N900 a B-type. The B-plug of the cable will match both though |
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| 20:54.44 | jaska | ah, its the only microusb(?) cable ive ever seen so :) |
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| 21:27.44 | rokr1 | hello all |
| 21:28.36 | rokr1 | anyone there...? |
| 21:28.52 | djdm | is here, yes - haven;t seen anyone else for a few minutes though |
| 21:29.04 | djdm | Though you'd expect there to be with over 500 peeps in here :) |
| 21:29.14 | bartekxyz | Channel full of people,nobody willing do speak |
| 21:29.24 | Jaffa | lcukn900: No, my house is up near Rugby. No early trains for the weekend working tomorrow. |
| 21:30.51 | rokr1 | okay |
| 21:32.56 | lbt | well, all of Extras is up there now... |
| 21:33.56 | lbt | not the best summary.... http://pastie.org/961971 |
| 21:34.24 | rokr1 | is there any wap browser available which i can use to download movies from www.iphonemoviez.net |
| 21:35.11 | crashanddie | rokr1: you are so close to getting kicked |
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| 21:35.57 | crashanddie | may I recommend treading *extremely* carefully? |
| 21:36.08 | rokr1 | okie |
| 21:36.48 | crashanddie | rokr1: why would you want WAP? You have a full IP stack, and support for fully fledged websites |
| 21:36.57 | lcukn900 | jaf, ahh thought it was closer lol. enjoying bluray? |
| 21:37.04 | lcukn900 | jaf, mm |
| 21:37.12 | lcukn900 | autocomplete isnt working |
| 21:37.19 | lcukn900 | jaffa |
| 21:37.20 | crashanddie | Jaffa: |
| 21:37.22 | crashanddie | sure it is |
| 21:37.31 | lcukn900 | for you maybe lol |
| 21:37.34 | crashanddie | :D |
| 21:37.41 | rokr1 | tried useragent for the microB browser |
| 21:37.54 | crashanddie | rokr1: what are you trying to achieve? |
| 21:38.01 | crashanddie | rokr1: without naming websites |
| 21:38.37 | rokr1 | website which i need to access is iphonemoviez.net |
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| 21:44.02 | crashanddie | they're just making it too easy these days |
| 21:44.18 | lcukn900 | who r? |
| 21:44.27 | crashanddie | spammers |
| 21:45.40 | Arkenoi | wonders if irc spam does pay, audience is relatively small and spam tolerance is low |
| 21:47.32 | range | Mail spam pays in the per mill area. I guess irc spam does, too. |
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| 21:48.18 | range | And it is relatively cheap. Lowrider here was a bot logged in from three computers. |
| 21:48.23 | lcukn900 | was that spa or just some1 saying the site he wanted to go no? |
| 21:48.56 | range | I thought people were talking about lowrider (who renamed himself to Drogba for some other channels) |
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| 21:49.33 | lcukn900 | i dunno crash just kicked some1 |
| 21:49.48 | lcukn900 | my typing is awful tonight |
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| 21:53.15 | crashanddie | well, it could've been a real person |
| 21:53.46 | crashanddie | but in doubt, I'd rather remove a malwave spammer even if it means I just kicked someone who genuinely wanted to access a malware website |
| 21:53.57 | crashanddie | either case, I told him to tread very carefully, which he didn't |
| 21:54.03 | Macer | :) |
| 21:54.06 | Macer | Opened: 2008-10-31 22:54 |
| 21:54.23 | Macer | you have to love it when you file a bug almost 2 years for something that seems important but it is completely ignored |
| 21:54.33 | Macer | go zimbra! |
| 21:54.36 | Macer | haha |
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| 22:01.38 | SpeedEvil | http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/10/05/15/1839240/Google-Stops-Selling-Its-Own-Phone?art_pos=2 :/ |
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| 22:02.44 | kpoman | hi all ! guys can someone help me ? I try to install amsn on a n810 (or whatever able to do videoconference from nit to pc) and it fails with some apt error on dependencies: link here: http://pastebin.com/jPaZHyrR |
| 22:02.44 | SpeedEvil | (WRT the marketplace getting les open) |
| 22:03.59 | lcuk | crashanddie, of course you did and he didnt listen |
| 22:04.11 | lcuk | mind you, "dont press the red button" just makes it all the more appealing |
| 22:04.26 | crashanddie | lcuk: appeal doens't change my job |
| 22:04.55 | kpoman | someone know how to install it ? |
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| 22:05.29 | tybollt | SpeedEvil: then it was complete BS from the begining anyway. Open a web store and then only sell to certain markets? That is just aboiut as retarded as only Google can be :) |
| 22:05.42 | lcuk | kpoman, where did amsn come from and what repositories have you got enabled |
| 22:05.58 | SpeedEvil | tybollt: well - at least you could actually buy it open |
| 22:06.00 | lcuk | the simplest way to install stuff is to usually setup just the maemo ones and work with them |
| 22:06.16 | lcuk | having to add extra repositories usually ends up with extra problems |
| 22:06.30 | lcuk | dependency overlaps and version conflicts etc |
| 22:06.34 | kpoman | lcuk directly from the amsn project site, downloaded that repository ... tried to install both via the n810 gui and command line ... the apt stuff is posted on the link provided. it says some dependencies are un installable |
| 22:07.00 | kpoman | lcuk: I just saw posts saying this works on maemo |
| 22:07.05 | SpeedEvil | Anyone have a pointer to 'build a kernel on n900' ? I'm having problems getting started with it crosscompiling. |
| 22:07.05 | lcuk | yes of cource kpoman but i also dont know what repositories you are meant to have or what they provide |
| 22:07.09 | kpoman | and I downloaded from maemo repo of it |
| 22:07.11 | lcuk | remove all extra repos and try again |
| 22:07.29 | kpoman | lcuk: see here, it seems to be compatible: http://www.amsn-project.net/maemo-downloads.php |
| 22:07.30 | SpeedEvil | Basically as, I have a slackware laptop that 'just works' and I don't want to screw with upgrading it |
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| 22:08.16 | lcuk | kpoman i dont doubt it |
| 22:08.37 | kpoman | lcuk: i am newbie to this, received my tablet last thursday |
| 22:08.57 | kpoman | lcuk: i just want to make a video call to my mom in other country |
| 22:09.01 | lcuk | o, well try what i have suggested - remove all additional repositories except for maemo and nokia |
| 22:09.04 | kpoman | lcuk and to hack my device |
| 22:09.06 | lcuk | then go through the steps again |
| 22:09.07 | kpoman | a bit |
| 22:09.32 | kpoman | lcuk: where are thos ? i am already connected via ssh to the phone ... cant seem to find where the repos I downloaded are |
| 22:09.43 | tybollt | SpeedEvil: YOU could - cause you're _in the right country_ - Google said "sorry you're in Sweden - FUCK YOU!", so yeah, die google and die your silly web shop :) |
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| 22:10.00 | kpoman | lcuk: /etc/apt/sources.list.d ? |
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| 22:10.14 | lcuk | application manager repositories list |
| 22:10.30 | lcuk | gui |
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| 22:11.38 | kpoman | lcuk: it seems to be the same thing as /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ? |
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| 22:12.47 | Darokr1 | hey crashhanddie |
| 22:12.49 | lcuk | kpoman, sure |
| 22:12.53 | Who_Cares | First of all - hello everybody! |
| 22:13.04 | lcuk | has never seen a newbie who goes to the console before the gui |
| 22:13.05 | Who_Cares | And sorry for my English |
| 22:13.50 | lcuk | maemo.ogr/packages ui is borkened |
| 22:14.08 | Who_Cares | I have a question - is it possible to somehow do scheduled mail checks with automatic internet connection? |
| 22:14.33 | Who_Cares | The thing is that i dont keep my connection always on, becouse of the battery lifetime |
| 22:14.58 | Darokr1 | autodisconnect |
| 22:15.05 | djdm | I was about to say that, yes |
| 22:15.06 | Who_Cares | i would like it connect to internet and check mails lets say every 30 minutes |
| 22:15.23 | Who_Cares | i have auto disconnect |
| 22:15.23 | djdm | Although not sure how you'd get it to auto-connect in the first place |
| 22:15.25 | Darokr1 | hey unban me crashhie |
| 22:15.59 | djdm | afaik Modest only checks when already connected |
| 22:16.02 | Who_Cares | I`we also managed to get connection scripts that i can schedule to connect in specifix time |
| 22:16.03 | crashanddie | Darokr1: you do realise that ban evasion is punishable by a network ban, right? |
| 22:16.15 | Darokr1 | no not really |
| 22:16.31 | Darokr1 | i am new here buddy |
| 22:16.40 | crashanddie | I don't care, read the rules |
| 22:16.43 | Who_Cares | but the problem is that the dbus command i found in web (SendRecieve) is kinda not working for me? |
| 22:16.44 | Darokr1 | i have N900 |
| 22:16.48 | *** mode/#maemo [+o crashanddie] by ChanServ |
| 22:17.03 | *** mode/#maemo [-b *!*ActionX@59.92.55.*] by crashanddie |
| 22:17.06 | djdm | Who_Cares: Unfortunately that's beyond what I can help with; maybe someone else can? |
| 22:17.08 | *** mode/#maemo [-o crashanddie] by ChanServ |
| 22:17.09 | Who_Cares | and there is not much information about that on the internet, so i decided to come and talk with you guys |
| 22:17.20 | crashanddie | Darokr1: done |
| 22:17.28 | Darokr1 | phew thanks crashhie |
| 22:17.29 | crashanddie | Darokr1: next time, send me a PM |
| 22:17.38 | crashanddie | Darokr1: also, please type my nick completely |
| 22:18.06 | Darokr1 | crashanddie is that okay |
| 22:18.11 | crashanddie | fine |
| 22:19.42 | kpoman | lcuk: lol I really prefer command line, I bought mine tablet to do development with usb and python |
| 22:19.59 | lcuk | kpoman, thats cool |
| 22:20.11 | kpoman | lcuk: but still wanna use the tablet for what I bought (having webcam) |
| 22:20.13 | lcuk | the sources.d you found is regenerated by hildon-application-manager |
| 22:20.26 | kpoman | not that I dont like to take pictures of myself but ... |
| 22:20.44 | lcuk | the n810 has video chat built in afaik? |
| 22:20.46 | kpoman | lcuk: I placed the repo of amsn on top of the list and still get the same issue |
| 22:21.03 | lcuk | well its possible they have forgotten about n810 users |
| 22:21.03 | crashanddie | lcuk: yeah, gtalk should work with video out of the box |
| 22:21.07 | kpoman | lcuk: which package ? I just want to communicate with an xp box via internet |
| 22:21.10 | lcuk | have you removed all your extra repos |
| 22:21.39 | kpoman | lcuk: no, just took them lower |
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| 22:22.04 | rokr1 | is there any vlc port to maemo...? |
| 22:22.06 | lcuk | kpoman, well you know more than me then |
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| 22:22.26 | kpoman | lcuk: now i did remove the others, it still bugs |
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| 22:23.06 | crashanddie | rokr1: yes |
| 22:23.16 | lcuk | it might do, you will have to contact the website then, i dunno which repositories contain the required files you need |
| 22:24.13 | lcuk | external fad repositories |
| 22:24.17 | lcuk | rolleyes |
| 22:25.07 | rokr1 | i just saw that port in some...labs.com |
| 22:25.11 | kpoman | lcuk: it seems this one is buggy: E: Package libsoup2.4-1 has no installation candidat |
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| 22:25.52 | lcuk | im goin coding \o |
| 22:25.58 | lcuk | good luck kpoman |
| 22:26.01 | kpoman | ok thanks |
| 22:26.02 | lcuk | cya later crashanddie \o |
| 22:26.08 | kpoman | nevermind I will read some google |
| 22:26.12 | crashanddie | kpoman: libsoup2.4-1 should be installed by default http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_root_pr_armel/libsoup2.4-1/2.24.3-2maemo2+0m5/ |
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| 22:26.23 | lcuk | crashanddie, m5 |
| 22:26.26 | lcuk | hes on n810 |
| 22:26.28 | crashanddie | oh |
| 22:26.54 | kpoman | crashanddie: how do I do that ? |
| 22:27.05 | kpoman | wget ? apt ? |
| 22:27.05 | crashanddie | kpoman: no sorry, it's for a more recent version of maemo |
| 22:27.21 | crashanddie | kpoman: get the sources from debian, and try to build it yourself in scratchbox |
| 22:27.22 | kpoman | crashanddie: I would really update mine, how do I do that ? |
| 22:27.36 | crashanddie | kpoman: maemo 5 only works on N900, not n810, sorry |
| 22:28.13 | rokr1 | but is meego officially available for n900 |
| 22:28.16 | rokr1 | ? |
| 22:28.21 | SpeedEvil | no |
| 22:28.28 | lcuk | is meego officially available for anything? |
| 22:28.29 | SpeedEvil | meego is not available officially for anything. |
| 22:28.46 | lcuk | isnt here |
| 22:28.59 | rokr1 | atom process will loose to arm in power consumption |
| 22:29.10 | crashanddie | lcuk: take care guv |
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| 22:29.49 | rokr1 | just installed * |
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| 22:30.00 | rokr1 | Asterisk |
| 22:30.20 | rokr1 | home pbx |
| 22:30.41 | rokr1 | man N900 is a awsome device |
| 22:30.45 | b-man | kpoman: Maemo 5 is built on the Cortex-A8 architecture (armv7l), while your n810's processor is only ARM11 (armv6l) - if you wanted a more detailed reason ;) |
| 22:30.50 | lbt | not the best summary.... http://pastie.org/961971 |
| 22:31.39 | kpoman | b-man: ok no problem ! but it should be buildable ? |
| 22:31.44 | kpoman | for armv61 ? |
| 22:31.46 | rokr1 | kmplayer + mplayer is vlc alternative but cannot change aspect ratio |
| 22:31.57 | crashanddie | kpoman: except you wouldn't have drivers for squat shit |
| 22:32.06 | kpoman | crashanddie: ok |
| 22:32.15 | crashanddie | kpoman: and a bunch of UI is proprietary by Nokia, and we have no sources |
| 22:32.32 | kpoman | crashanddie: are they going to release some ? |
| 22:32.39 | crashanddie | doubtful at this stage |
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| 22:33.20 | rokr1 | i have a lot of hope with N900 and nokia |
| 22:33.21 | kpoman | crashanddie: see i just looked for libsoup found some packages, but dont quite understand ...are they for maemo 2 and 3 ? |
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| 22:33.31 | lcuk | lbt, are those the ones that made it in? |
| 22:33.40 | crashanddie | kpoman: link? |
| 22:33.47 | kpoman | http://maemo.org/packages/view/libsoup2.4-1/ |
| 22:34.00 | rokr1 | hey where to autostart an app |
| 22:34.12 | crashanddie | kpoman: they end with m5 |
| 22:34.14 | kpoman | crashanddie: seems to be for m5 |
| 22:34.18 | kpoman | yep |
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| 22:34.38 | crashanddie | kpoman: there's always a dirty thing you could try |
| 22:34.40 | kpoman | crashanddie: do you know how should I setup some chrooted fs or whatever to start downloading and compiling sources for m4 ? |
| 22:34.49 | crashanddie | kpoman: have already reflashed your n810, and are you afraid of doing it again? |
| 22:35.04 | kpoman | crashanddie: I just got it virgin |
| 22:35.13 | kpoman | crashanddie: I mean never flashed it nor nothing |
| 22:35.15 | crashanddie | ok, so there's a few things you need to be aware of |
| 22:35.18 | lcuk | kpoman, go onto google and seek people who replicated it on n810 recently |
| 22:35.24 | crashanddie | ~optification |
| 22:35.25 | infobot | rumour has it, optification is a inventive duct tape workaround to reclaim space in fs root, done due to the fact the partitioning is FUBAR, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging,_Deploying_and_Distributing/Installing_under_opt_and_MyDocs |
| 22:35.29 | lcuk | your problem is that the repositoriy is offering potentially outdated files |
| 22:35.33 | kpoman | crashanddie: what is that ? |
| 22:35.34 | lcuk | and incomplete installs |
| 22:35.54 | crashanddie | kpoman: basically, if you look at your partitioning (df) you'll see that the root (/) is very small |
| 22:36.11 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.23 | crashanddie | kpoman: which means that if applications just install to /usr/bin or whatever under /usr, you're going to run out of space very very quickly |
| 22:36.24 | kpoman | crashanddie: but see there are lot of casper or whatever fs, for example I run a complete os from my pendrive, isnt there a way to do such a thing here ? |
| 22:36.29 | crashanddie | kpoman: SpeedEvil explains it better |
| 22:36.36 | rokr1 | yes 256 mb nand flash |
| 22:36.49 | kpoman | crashanddie: isnt there a way to use those other 2gb ? |
| 22:37.09 | crashanddie | yeah, but it's slower (well, maybe not by much on the n810, I never tried it personally) |
| 22:37.11 | rokr1 | hey its just the swap partition |
| 22:37.19 | kpoman | dudes please wait (must go buy some food, my wife is shouting at me) brb I need to pass this whole night making my stuff work on usb |
| 22:37.23 | kpoman | brb |
| 22:37.23 | crashanddie | I know some people even ran their whole system from the SD card |
| 22:37.37 | kpoman | brb |
| 22:37.40 | crashanddie | sure |
| 22:37.44 | rokr1 | bye |
| 22:37.46 | kpoman | :( |
| 22:38.11 | rokr1 | oke quick brb |
| 22:38.25 | crashanddie | rokr1: we're talking about the n810 here, not the n900, no need to just shout stuff if you're not sure what we're talking about |
| 22:38.39 | rokr1 | i am sorry |
| 22:38.58 | crashanddie | rokr1: and for the website you were trying to access earlier: it's not a legal website, we don't support that stuff in here |
| 22:39.12 | rokr1 | ok |
| 22:39.24 | crashanddie | rokr1: if you want to access it, you were on the right path using the modified User-Agent, but we can't help you more than that |
| 22:39.24 | rokr1 | i will never name it here |
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| 23:07.17 | MohammadAG_ | np pupnik |
| 23:07.23 | MohammadAG_ | Night all :) |
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| 23:10.51 | otubo | Does anyone know how to set default python to 2.5 (instead of 2.3.4) on sbox? |
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| 23:26.53 | DocScrutinizer | should we go +r, to temporaraily protect users of this chan from spam? |
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| 23:28.02 | SpeedEvil1 | I've seen two or three |
| 23:28.07 | SpeedEvil1 | It's not a problem yet |
| 23:28.21 | DocScrutinizer | fsckng elplace.com/ is spamming whole freenode with adverts, both to channels and in private queries to users skimmed from chan userlists |
| 23:29.08 | lcuk | and now from grumpy ops :P |
| 23:29.27 | DocScrutinizer | pfrrrrrrpppf |
| 23:29.47 | lcuk | laughs |
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| 23:33.19 | PhonicUK | hey all |
| 23:37.50 | PhonicUK | anyone know if there is a working android image for the n900 somewhere? |
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| 23:40.54 | Macer | SO |
| 23:41.07 | Macer | how is meego/maemo going? |
| 23:41.08 | Macer | :) |
| 23:41.17 | Macer | can't everybody just rename maemo to meego and done? |
| 23:41.18 | Macer | haha |
| 23:41.26 | PhonicUK | i want pr 1.2 |
| 23:41.30 | PhonicUK | and flash 10 |
| 23:41.35 | Macer | PhonicUK: SHHH.. that's crazy talk |
| 23:41.37 | Macer | :) |
| 23:41.43 | PhonicUK | lol |
| 23:41.50 | Macer | points at the topic |
| 23:41.52 | PhonicUK | i want a pony too! |
| 23:42.17 | Macer | they won't have 1.2 if meego is stuck in the air keeping everything in limbo |
| 23:42.18 | PhonicUK | i cant see the topic :p |
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| 23:42.37 | Macer | PhonicUK: haha. that is like when you get caught in bed with another man's woman and you say "she didn't say she had a man!" |
| 23:42.39 | PhonicUK | using xchat on my n900 |
| 23:43.05 | Macer | NO PR1.2 YET, askers will get kicked http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=638289#post638289 |
| 23:43.09 | Macer | that's the end part :) |
| 23:43.27 | Macer | i guess it's ok since you didn't ask :) |
| 23:43.39 | PhonicUK | good thing i wasn't asking :p |
| 23:43.40 | lcuk | ->> bed |
| 23:43.43 | lcuk | gnite DocScrutinizer |
| 23:43.54 | DocScrutinizer | gnite |
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| 23:44.10 | Macer | sleep is a crutch |
| 23:45.01 | PhonicUK | i want a good game for my n900 |
| 23:45.05 | |R | Pee Arrr One Point Two? what? Kick? :P |
| 23:45.13 | PhonicUK | lol |
| 23:45.37 | DocScrutinizer | suggests /topic to PhonicUK |
| 23:45.40 | PhonicUK | hmm i wish the osk wad quicker to show up |
| 23:45.49 | PhonicUK | lol |
| 23:46.45 | PhonicUK | i also wish the osk had a shift key on the left |
| 23:46.52 | Macer | :) |
| 23:47.21 | Macer | i wish nokia would figure out what the hell it wants to do.. either support maemo or get this meego crap going on something |
| 23:47.28 | Macer | blame Stskeeps |
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| 23:47.38 | PhonicUK | likewise |
| 23:48.03 | Macer | maybe everybody should just take a step backwards and go back to symbian |
| 23:48.04 | Macer | haha |
| 23:48.19 | PhonicUK | i just hope they dont try to drop the n900 for some new handset anytime soon |
| 23:48.24 | Macer | i doubt they will |
| 23:48.31 | PhonicUK | eww symbian |
| 23:48.33 | Macer | but then again they have 2 flagship lines |
| 23:48.43 | PhonicUK | i hated it on my n97 |
| 23:48.45 | Macer | the n9x running symbian and the n900 running maemo |
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| 23:48.51 | Macer | yeah. symbian is dated |
| 23:48.54 | Macer | it worked well enough though |
| 23:49.05 | PhonicUK | which is silly, should use maemo for it all |
| 23:49.14 | PhonicUK | symbian is a dead horse |
| 23:49.22 | Macer | well. nokia can see the potential but they need to figure out what they want to do |
| 23:49.29 | Macer | jump on the bandwagon with intel with this meego junk |
| 23:49.34 | Macer | or fully support their maemo |
| 23:49.55 | Macer | the problem with nokia is they are trying to be too much like google with android than to get the ball rolling |
| 23:50.20 | Macer | trying to figure out the politics and marketing rather than spend the resources in making maemo better |
| 23:50.30 | Macer | :) |
| 23:50.35 | PhonicUK | i wanna try android on my n900 but the guy who hacked it on his has kept it all to himself akaik |
| 23:50.49 | PhonicUK | *afaik |
| 23:50.53 | Macer | blame Stskeeps ... he is the reason we don't have a portrait "desktop" on an n900 |
| 23:50.56 | Macer | :) |
| 23:51.06 | PhonicUK | lol |
| 23:51.52 | PhonicUK | whats the name of that app to help you neatly arrange your desktops? |
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| 23:55.12 | DocScrutinizer | k, forget the +r suggestion. Spammer is supposed to be killed for good, says freenode-staff |
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| 23:55.45 | PhonicUK | has anyone tried running gcc etc directly on the n900 itself? |
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| 23:56.47 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 23:57.30 | PhonicUK | work well? |
| 23:57.41 | DocScrutinizer | prolly |
| 23:58.18 | DocScrutinizer | why should it fail? |
| 23:59.02 | PhonicUK | no reason. is it optified? |
| 23:59.10 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 23:59.51 | PhonicUK | e.g. include |