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| 00:04.13 | DocScrutinizer | ~nuke busybox |
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| 00:06.15 | kthomas_vh | lol |
| 00:07.22 | c|oneman | "the silo doors are closed! this is suicide!" |
| 00:07.52 | kthomas_vh | doubleLOL |
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| 00:26.31 | kthomas_vh | trying to complile (configure) syncevolution |
| 00:26.50 | kthomas_vh | configure keeps telling me I don't have libcurl although I've installed all versions |
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| 00:29.06 | kthomas_vh | ^^ m4/n810 |
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| 01:07.22 | Funnyfacemob | my tracker-indexer is stuck at 100% CPU load, is that normal? |
| 01:07.40 | Funnyfacemob | aah seems like it is done now |
| 01:07.42 | SpeedEvil | yes |
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| 01:08.16 | Funnyfacemob | never did that before, I guess it is because I transferred my music collection over here some days ago |
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| 01:16.01 | DocScrutinizer | ~nuke tracker |
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| 01:16.32 | DocScrutinizer | ~spank $inventor |
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| 01:58.43 | MohammadAG | Night #maemo |
| 01:59.04 | Ken-Young | Goodnight@ |
| 01:59.12 | MohammadAG | o/ |
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| 02:10.44 | Termana | good morning |
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| 02:23.36 | kdubois | the media player for my maemo phone doesnt play mp3's, any ideas? |
| 02:24.37 | cure` | always or just now? i had sometimes, a reboot would suffice |
| 02:26.56 | SpeedEvil | sometimes the media codec thingy can crash |
| 02:27.09 | kdubois | well, i just got it today, so i don't have a lot of backwards reference :P |
| 02:27.12 | kdubois | i'll try a reboot |
| 02:28.10 | kdubois | hopefully this fixes the video problem too |
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| 02:29.47 | SpeedEvil | playing odd codecs can sometimes do that |
| 02:30.28 | kdubois | yeah, i was doing some tinkering with ffmpeg to put some videos on there |
| 02:31.28 | kdubois | yeah, thats what did it, one particular video encoding does it in |
| 02:31.32 | DocScrutinizer | so the DSP crashed, and probably you'll need a boot |
| 02:31.47 | DocScrutinizer | known bug |
| 02:32.13 | DocScrutinizer | (the DSP part is my guess though) |
| 02:32.13 | kdubois | yeah... its h264/aac though |
| 02:32.24 | kdubois | i thought that was supported |
| 02:32.59 | DocScrutinizer | it should afaik. Maybe the source has a poisoned bitsequence |
| 02:33.27 | kdubois | yeah, just gotta find the magic combo to get video to work :P |
| 02:33.56 | DocScrutinizer | err, click on it in mediaplayer? |
| 02:34.22 | kdubois | no, to get the video in the right format |
| 02:34.28 | DocScrutinizer | aah |
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| 02:42.14 | kdubois | mpeg4/mp3 seems to work better |
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| 02:48.27 | cure` | i tend to use mplayer with sib for video and the default media player for mp3's |
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| 02:50.47 | njsf_ | cure`: I want to use panucci because of the auto bookmark, but I think it is a little more resource intensive than the stock media player |
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| 03:15.51 | ShadowJK | kdubois, h264/mp3 works too if you tell ffmpeg to tell x264 to use the baseline profile |
| 03:15.57 | ShadowJK | and resolution less than 800x480 |
| 03:16.33 | ShadowJK | just kills mafw-gst-render (or something like that) when dsp crashes.. it seems to autospawn and fix whatever was wrong |
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| 03:35.09 | kdubois | i think its B-frames in the x264 codec that crashes it [[maybe]] |
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| 03:42.11 | kdubois | err, h.264 :P |
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| 04:05.26 | TTilus | i need guidance on usb tethering with n900 + debian lenny |
| 04:05.58 | Stskeeps | on ubuntu it's pretty much plug and play if you select pc suite mode |
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| 04:06.38 | TTilus | oh, sounds almost too good :) |
| 04:06.43 | TempNick | http://www.petitemarion.com/?id=1295358 |
| 04:08.36 | TTilus | who'd kick TempNick? |
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| 04:15.10 | slonopotamus | just finished reading through n8x0 mbx thread. so... sounds like a community fail. we asked for drivers, we got them (though in bad shape) and... nothing happenned after that. |
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| 04:20.24 | Stskeeps | slonopotamus: well, not entirely, but close |
| 04:20.57 | Stskeeps | slonopotamus: we got the drivers, they weren't actually tested on N8x0 nor did TI have any N8x0s. javispedro, me and a small band of hackers get them to a runnable state |
| 04:21.10 | Stskeeps | but not perfect, waiting for people with more skill |
| 04:21.36 | slonopotamus | Stskeeps: no fixes for alloc failures/memory leaks? |
| 04:22.16 | slonopotamus | doesn't have relevant skills :) |
| 04:22.19 | Stskeeps | slonopotamus: alloc failures are mostly a problem of the kernel they're in, i think |
| 04:22.28 | Stskeeps | well, you're more than welcome to play around them |
| 04:22.53 | slonopotamus | Stskeeps: btw. from what i see, some have 2.6.33 running on n8x0? |
| 04:22.59 | Stskeeps | yes |
| 04:23.07 | Stskeeps | well, n810 to be specific |
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| 04:24.26 | slonopotamus | no charging, wifi and other funky stuff? |
| 04:24.35 | slonopotamus | and clock, i suppose |
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| 04:26.57 | Stskeeps | why no clock? |
| 04:27.21 | slonopotamus | dunno, just a guess. it didn't work in 2.6.27 times |
| 04:27.34 | Stskeeps | well, that's retutime anyway :P |
| 04:28.34 | slonopotamus | and no touchscreen? |
| 04:28.47 | Stskeeps | tsc2005 right? |
| 04:29.03 | Stskeeps | kernel driver was upgraded as part of n900 patches |
| 04:29.30 | slonopotamus | right |
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| 04:34.02 | slonopotamus | Stskeeps: do you know by chance, what makes screen dim on n8x0? |
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| 04:35.22 | Termana | slonopotamus, touchscreen works fine in my kernel. As well as bluetooth and apparently with a few adjustments wifi. But there is no charging, and power management doesn't work that great. Clock works fine (?) |
| 04:36.13 | Termana | Well actually thats a lie, it charges, BME obviously recognises it and works and it shows its charging. But I wouldn't trust it |
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| 05:27.22 | opdf2 | anyone using pbxes on n900? |
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| 05:29.10 | pupnik | publix branch exchanges |
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| 05:37.09 | Bato | hello |
| 05:41.24 | Bato | say hello |
| 05:42.26 | pupnik | moo |
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| 05:46.28 | yanu | opdf2: i'm using plugpbx |
| 05:46.57 | opdf2 | i was talking about the sip client connected to pbxes.org |
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| 05:50.43 | misc-- | hi all, I was wondering if it's possible to somehow dial a number that contains a hash at the start, for example ##002# ? |
| 05:51.06 | microlith | PR1.2 or you can grab the ussd-widget from extras-devel |
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| 05:53.38 | misc-- | ok I did, put the widget on the desktop and it says "Click to update", which I did but then returns just "Error" |
| 05:53.48 | misc-- | ahh |
| 05:53.53 | misc-- | I see, click on the settings in it |
| 05:55.45 | opdf2 | man i wanna use ovi voice, but too bad we dont even have a proper ovi maps =( |
| 05:56.10 | wall[e] | someone tell me to stop mypainting pls |
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| 06:00.53 | Khertan_n900 | Hi ! |
| 06:01.06 | Khertan_n900 | Someone know a way to calibrate accelerometers ? |
| 06:01.47 | Khertan_n900 | my 900 think is always hold on portrait orientation |
| 06:01.53 | Khertan_n900 | ~ping |
| 06:01.54 | infobot | ~pong |
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| 06:07.04 | mece | Cheers Khertan. I saw a thread on tmo about that... |
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| 06:25.49 | RST38bis | The bill would allow a church to hire a security force or create its own by authorizing the church's board or pastor to tap parishioners who have concealed weapons permits to bring them to church. |
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| 06:26.07 | D-Iivil | X-Fade: ping? |
| 06:26.08 | RST38bis | And good moorning to you all! |
| 06:26.15 | D-Iivil | Oh, good morning also to everyone :) |
| 06:27.05 | Stskeeps | morning |
| 06:28.18 | D-Iivil | Uh.. lack of coffee and no one in the office has made some :( |
| 06:28.32 | D-Iivil | Maybe I should sacrifice myself and do the dirty job... |
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| 06:29.41 | D-Iivil | Damn extras-testing is lagging again.. I promoted package there at 3.5.2010 and it still doesn't appear on extras-testing :/ |
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| 06:35.52 | mece | hmm tmo is still flaky :/ |
| 06:37.12 | pupnik | fittingly |
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| 06:38.40 | mece | well it's flaky in a it's slow and times out 50% of the times. I was not referring to the users this time ;) |
| 06:39.00 | mece | s/in a/in a way/ |
| 06:39.19 | mece | s/in a way/in a way that/ |
| 06:43.49 | mece | uff |
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| 06:45.12 | cowbot | mece .. any qt programs you can point to that do it well on n900? |
| 06:45.46 | mece | cowbot, hm.. well that weather thingamagig works pretty well. |
| 06:46.07 | cowbot | omweather? |
| 06:46.10 | mece | no. |
| 06:46.12 | mece | umm |
| 06:46.21 | mece | what was it called again.. |
| 06:46.40 | mece | Qt Weather perhaps? |
| 06:47.14 | cowbot | qtmobiledemo-weather - Qt Mobile Demo: Weather |
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| 06:50.05 | mece | cowbot, I think there's one that's not called "demo" too. |
| 06:50.15 | mece | qtmobile-weather |
| 06:50.25 | mece | or I know actually :) |
| 06:50.44 | mece | http://maemo.org/packages/view/qtmobile-weather/ |
| 06:50.53 | mece | oh yeah.. Tweego is pretty sweet too. |
| 06:51.18 | cowbot | ty. i wanted something that showd me how to do sound as well - trying "blubbels" |
| 06:52.39 | mece | oh.. |
| 06:52.45 | mece | haven't used any qt apps with sound.. |
| 06:52.51 | mece | wait that's a lie. qtify has sound.. |
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| 06:52.57 | mece | but it doesn't use qt for sound |
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| 06:58.44 | cowbot | "the moment you cannot put yourself through hell any more, or you don't feel like it any more, that's probably the time to call it a day." |
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| 07:07.09 | kthomas_vh | ^ reminds me of a particular company I worked at |
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| 07:08.27 | pupnik | it is about work |
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| 07:13.37 | frals | ~nuke talk.maemo.org |
| 07:13.38 | infobot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at talk.maemo.org ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 07:13.43 | Stskeeps | heh |
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| 07:17.56 | Termana | Theres a topic on tmo titled "10 ways to improve your N900 FAST" |
| 07:18.12 | Termana | now it just needs "for a low low payment of 9.95!" |
| 07:18.25 | Stskeeps | "10 ways to kick your TMO habit" |
| 07:19.01 | cowbot | read the emulator threads |
| 07:19.03 | cowbot | that'll do it |
| 07:19.23 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 07:19.35 | Termana | good morning Jaffa |
| 07:21.27 | cowbot | not a lot of IRC users in asia, apparently |
| 07:21.49 | frals | hmm hmm |
| 07:21.51 | X-Fade | Morning |
| 07:21.56 | mece | craaaap. Forgot to turn on my desktop, so now I'm compiling on my old laptop-turned-server and its fn SLOW! |
| 07:21.58 | frals | now that fmms seems stable, i wonder what i should do with my time |
| 07:22.15 | mece | frals, you should go to disneyland |
| 07:22.32 | frals | mece: you take care of the bill? ;) |
| 07:22.43 | Stskeeps | frals: meego, obviously ;) |
| 07:22.45 | mece | frals, well perhaps gröna lund :P |
| 07:22.50 | Scelt | frals: integrate it to conversations |
| 07:23.01 | mece | frals, yeah. mms to conversations. |
| 07:23.13 | frals | Scelt; mece: WONTFIX :p |
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| 07:23.26 | mece | hey speaking of conversations. Is it possiblt that my conv logs are so big that it makes my n900 slow? |
| 07:23.27 | X-Fade | frals: NOOooooo not you too ;) |
| 07:23.42 | frals | Stskeeps: yeah, but what exactly? ;) |
| 07:24.14 | Scelt | frals: well. you swedes skipped the world wars so why would you battle against the bad code? |
| 07:24.24 | Termana | frals, mms support in MeeGo? :P |
| 07:24.24 | cowbot | frals: synergy, milkytracker, chibitracker, gqview, tome, ... |
| 07:24.47 | Stskeeps | frals: dunno, i vote for bartender |
| 07:24.47 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 07:25.07 | frals | Scelt: we PROFITED fromt he world wars... ;-) |
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| 07:25.13 | Scelt | mece: seems to slow down loading a specific big conversation at least |
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| 07:26.07 | Scelt | frals: I've seen the movies |
| 07:26.10 | frals | Scelt: afaik it only loads x messages, so it shouldnt, unless you start scrolling |
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| 07:26.48 | mece | wtf. I'm compiling this game and I'm getting tons of "warning: comparison is always false due to limited range of data type" |
| 07:26.49 | Scelt | frals: it does and not scrolling. you can type immediately but it takes few secs to load history |
| 07:27.10 | mece | can this be caused by some differences between versions? |
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| 07:27.25 | mece | Scelt, I meant that my whole device gets slow. |
| 07:27.43 | Scelt | mece: that's why I said "at least" |
| 07:28.00 | mece | Scelt, righty. and there's nothing hogging the cpu. I'm thinking browser is being a dick. |
| 07:28.08 | mece | browserd that is. |
| 07:28.16 | frals | Stskeeps: barkeeper i can do ;D |
| 07:28.25 | frals | s/barkeeper/bartender/ |
| 07:29.45 | alterego | WWhat a disgrace, both my ADSL connections are down at work, so I'm having to use my phoneon a 2.5G connection to get the internet :( |
| 07:30.28 | Scelt | frals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw3e64sosEg |
| 07:31.34 | frals | Scelt: :D |
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| 07:32.10 | Scelt | frals: you have halfly finnish surname. carry it with honor ;D |
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| 07:33.21 | frals | downside with getting up around 08 when you have nothing to do all day is... you have nothing to do :D |
| 07:33.42 | frals | no point even spamming for testers of fmms as i have 12/10 thumbs up |
| 07:33.53 | frals | and if i add a new feature im just gonna hit promote again, and have to wait 10 new days :P |
| 07:34.12 | mece | frals, ok.. well then you can tell me why my QPlainTextEdit doesn't fingerscroll by default |
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| 07:34.27 | frals | mece: because GTK is king! |
| 07:34.28 | frals | ;D |
| 07:34.32 | alterego | 2010-04-30 - Quim Gil: wait just few weeks for the first stable MeeGo release. |
| 07:34.45 | alterego | The road map clearly said mid april though :P |
| 07:34.49 | mece | frals, yeah. But I wanted to make something qt |
| 07:35.09 | alterego | mece: which Qt version? |
| 07:35.17 | mece | frals, because it would not make sense to name my app qlister if it was gtk now would it. |
| 07:35.24 | alterego | mece: and I think you need to use the flickable widget, or something :P |
| 07:35.32 | mece | alterego, community 4.6.2 through pyside2.3 |
| 07:35.33 | frals | mece: i have no clue about Qt, im meaning to get started but i need to find something fun to do while learning :) |
| 07:35.47 | frals | mece: q/g almost looks the same anyway... ;) |
| 07:35.57 | Wolfie | frals: you could fix the memory management for me in a java project of mine :) |
| 07:36.02 | mece | frals, yep. I'm aiming for the future :) |
| 07:36.07 | alterego | There's a scroll area that enables kinetic scrolling, and I think you have to stuff your widget in that. |
| 07:36.30 | frals | Wolfie: bah, in java i let java handle memory management ;) |
| 07:36.42 | mece | alterego, but that fucker inherits QAbstractScrollArea, so it should work out of the box imo. |
| 07:37.01 | Wolfie | frals: that's the problem. Java either holds too tightly to my objects, or weak/soft references work too erratically :/ |
| 07:37.06 | alterego | You think an abstract scroll area has kinetics? :P |
| 07:37.15 | alterego | mece: hang on, I'll have a little look. |
| 07:37.19 | Scelt | frals: btw reply via sms is great! big thanks |
| 07:37.39 | Wolfie | frals: seriously thought, gratz on fmms 1.0 |
| 07:37.40 | mece | alterego, well QListWidget scrolls kinetically automagically, and it inhertis the same stuff |
| 07:37.46 | frals | Wolfie: ty :) |
| 07:37.49 | Wolfie | s/thought/though/ |
| 07:38.06 | alterego | mece: have you looked at the hints? |
| 07:38.07 | frals | Scelt: yeah, ive been meaning to do it since the start but only recently learnt how to do it :) |
| 07:38.21 | mece | alterego, no I haven't really attacked the issue yet. |
| 07:38.28 | Wolfie | frals: oh, oh! you could help me guess when an outputstream is not going to be written to, without getting .close() or .flush() called :D |
| 07:38.46 | mece | alterego, I just assumed it would work like QListWidget, but it didn't. |
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| 07:39.20 | alterego | mece: yeah, everything should be kinetic :) |
| 07:39.25 | alterego | in an ideal world. |
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| 07:39.34 | frals | Wolfie: hehe, cant remember how oos works but i always flush'd when i wanted stuff written to it :p |
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| 07:40.05 | frals | Wolfie: otoh the javadocs should say that as they generally are excellent |
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| 07:40.14 | mece | frals, how does fmms recieve mms'? |
| 07:40.25 | Wolfie | frals: yeah, you'd guess that's how it's used. But not in my case ;) makes content manipulation a bit of a hassle |
| 07:41.09 | Wolfie | (i'm simply wrapping the OS, trying to mangle the incoming data into my liking) |
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| 07:41.34 | frals | mece: uh, its like magic! ;) it registers with wappushd to get the sms push, parses it and then goes to the content-location specified and fetches the message from there |
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| 07:41.45 | Wolfie | frals: how about API design, would that be more to your liking, then? |
| 07:41.51 | mece | frals, so it just works? |
| 07:42.12 | frals | mece: hopefully, yes... theres no guarantees with mms based on my experience :D |
| 07:42.39 | frals | Wolfie: *shrug* ;) |
| 07:43.01 | frals | i should probably finish the latest dan brown book while i still have some sparetime :) |
| 07:43.02 | mece | ok fine, I'll install it. I tried a very early version ages ago, but couldn't get it to work then. |
| 07:43.27 | mece | frals, dan brown? how non-cool of you! |
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| 07:43.59 | Wolfie | frals: what? prefer your own agenda over some stranger proposing weird stuff for you to do? how unconventional |
| 07:44.04 | frals | mece: let me know if you run in to any problems... the configuration isnt that obvious unless you are on pr1.2 (judging by whats in the sdk) and your operator settings are in the database on device ;-) |
| 07:44.11 | frals | Wolfie: :DD |
| 07:45.00 | frals | oh god, websites who have animated favicons >_< |
| 07:45.15 | mece | gonna disable dev and testing to get the proper consumer experience :D |
| 07:45.57 | frals | its in testing atm, so disable that and you wont find it.. which i guess is the consumer experience atm? ;) |
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| 07:46.07 | mece | doh |
| 07:46.14 | mece | I thought it went to extras |
| 07:46.28 | frals | mece: nah, its stuck in quarantine for another 10 days |
| 07:47.27 | frals | gah he9gshduio trying to find anything on tmo when ever other connection times out... |
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| 07:49.44 | Stskeeps | hmm, does packages for armel get moved into extras-devel even if the i386 part fails? |
| 07:50.04 | asj | Stskeeps: afaik, no |
| 07:50.09 | mece | Stskeeps, wait a few minutes and find out. |
| 07:50.33 | alterego | vertsms is looking pretty sweet. |
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| 07:50.52 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: Should not, unless there is a bug somewhere ;) |
| 07:51.20 | Stskeeps | X-Fade: alright |
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| 07:51.28 | pupnik | X-Fade: too bad all such links got broken 'recently' svn co https://garage.maemo.org/svn/mud-builder/trunk mud-builder |
| 07:51.41 | Stskeeps | the switch to vcs.maemo.org |
| 07:51.41 | Stskeeps | ? |
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| 07:52.15 | pupnik | yea |
| 07:52.39 | Stskeeps | waits for bootmenu to show up in extras-devel |
| 07:53.25 | pupnik | Stskeeps: i can has boot from microSD? |
| 07:53.38 | Stskeeps | pupnik: possibly |
| 07:53.45 | Stskeeps | depending on what you want to boot |
| 07:54.01 | X-Fade | Hmm new version of ppinputmethod, but still no source. |
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| 07:57.43 | timeless_mbp | Trizt: eww |
| 07:57.52 | timeless_mbp | i''m trying to get these two to cooperate |
| 07:58.00 | timeless_mbp | but my 0.1-8 package wasn't proper |
| 07:58.51 | timeless_mbp | i just pushed a new 0.1-7 which should enable me to use 0.1-8 on my 1.2 devices |
| 07:59.02 | timeless_mbp | ideally the pair of 0.1-7 and 0.1-8 should work "properly" on 1.1.1 now |
| 07:59.06 | timeless_mbp | (if you're using .1) |
| 07:59.52 | timeless_mbp | Trizt: if it's really giving you the 1.2 strings instead of the 1.1.1 strings, then i'm going to need to know why |
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| 08:05.12 | alterego | So, madde can deploy to a scratchbox target? |
| 08:05.45 | alterego | This might take a bit of tweaking t oget right mind. |
| 08:05.55 | pupnik | n900 UK version available for 470 |
| 08:05.58 | pupnik | euro |
| 08:06.07 | alterego | pupnik: where?! :) |
| 08:06.14 | pupnik | amazon.co.uk |
| 08:06.32 | alterego | Nice |
| 08:06.43 | alterego | Think that's the cheapest it's been. |
| 08:06.56 | alterego | Still, 400 quid is quite expensive. |
| 08:07.11 | pupnik | 8 dinners in finland |
| 08:07.19 | pupnik | :P |
| 08:07.34 | Stskeeps | pupnik: you got hired by a finnish company or why are you suddenly in .fi btw? :P |
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| 08:08.10 | pupnik | visiting someone who happens to work at noki |
| 08:08.14 | frals | Stskeeps: i was going to suggest he likes it there, but then i realised how stupid that sounds :D |
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| 08:09.04 | pupnik | it is a pretty pretty country. lakes, pine trees clinging to boulders. |
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| 08:09.19 | Stskeeps | you obviously skipped winter |
| 08:09.20 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 08:09.34 | frals | spring and summer isnt bad when the weather is good |
| 08:09.35 | pupnik | winter is for spending on computer anyway |
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| 08:10.28 | Gilly | winter isn't that bad either, except in the south where there is no snow (snow brightens it up) |
| 08:11.03 | Gilly | late autumn is the worst in my opinion :) |
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| 08:13.26 | blub_ | hi all. Can anyone tell me where I can find the console in scratchbox UI? |
| 08:13.35 | MohammadAG | nice, i killed terminal |
| 08:13.48 | MohammadAG | morning |
| 08:14.40 | d14 | o/ :) |
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| 08:17.42 | pupnik | blub_: amusing question |
| 08:17.56 | blub_ | pupnik: I don't think so |
| 08:18.05 | Shapeshifter | I just looked into /usr/lib, is it a bad idea to move locale out of there and onto the emmc and symlink it? It's 28mb! |
| 08:18.23 | MohammadAG | yes, a very bad idea |
| 08:18.24 | pupnik | i usually delete locales i don't use |
| 08:18.34 | MohammadAG | move the one from /usr/share |
| 08:19.14 | blub_ | Well when I start the GUI in scratchbox I don't see any "Terminal" icon |
| 08:19.39 | Shapeshifter | MohammadAG: why? the one in /usr/share is only 13mb. |
| 08:20.00 | MohammadAG | I wouldn't move anything out of /usr/lib |
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| 08:20.20 | MohammadAG | libraries aren't to be optified that way |
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| 08:20.52 | MohammadAG | Shapeshifter, microb-engine is bigger in size, but moving it borks the browser |
| 08:21.09 | Shapeshifter | mhh. |
| 08:21.10 | MohammadAG | don't touch /usr/lib, it's highly compressed anyways |
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| 08:30.43 | Shapeshifter | mh. I'm trying to free up space on / but I can't find an effective method of finding offenders from extras-devel. I tried find /usr/* -mtime 20 to find things older then 20 days I might have installed but theres practically nothing. |
| 08:31.43 | MohammadAG | cd /usr/share && du -h | grep M |
| 08:32.06 | adeus | http://wiki.maemo.org/Free_up_rootfs_space |
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| 08:33.48 | alterego | I don't get it, is an ubiimg a fiasco image? |
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| 08:34.50 | Shapeshifter | MohammadAG: thats just a lot of microb and maps stuff. the problem is I don't think I've got any huge things, but rather lots of small ones. how can I list package contents of packages? that way I could grep for /usr/ in its output |
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| 08:35.19 | MohammadAG | umm, nokia-maps is about 13MBs |
| 08:36.04 | MohammadAG | alterego, it's only a rootfs image, in a FIASCO with a weird extension |
| 08:36.40 | Shapeshifter | MohammadAG: 8.7 for me, yes. |
| 08:38.07 | MohammadAG | move it then |
| 08:38.21 | Shapeshifter | mh. any idea why find /usr/* -mtime 50 -exec du -sh '{}' \; gives an 'unrecognized' error? |
| 08:38.31 | alterego | MohammadAG: so if I wanted to flash it on my N900, I just use the same command as the normal firmware installation? |
| 08:38.41 | alterego | s/command/command line/ |
| 08:38.50 | MohammadAG | alterego, yes, but it's on a bash shell |
| 08:39.00 | MohammadAG | don't expect a UI |
| 08:39.06 | alterego | I know :) |
| 08:41.00 | alterego | I'm not actually going to flash it, at least, not for the moment. I plan on using the qemu nand image first. |
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| 08:41.18 | alterego | Just wanted to know for future prosperity. |
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| 08:42.10 | mece | how large are the desktop icon pictures on n900? |
| 08:42.31 | mece | apparently bigger than 48x48 |
| 08:42.38 | frals | 64 afaik |
| 08:42.44 | eli_ | So I just reversed engineered grooveshark problem is I don't have the coding skills to implement a qt JSON system |
| 08:42.48 | mece | ok thanks |
| 08:43.00 | eli_ | Im going to try to write a grooveshark app for the n900 |
| 08:43.17 | MohammadAG | just dump the icon in /usr/share/pixmaps and it gets resized ;) |
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| 08:57.14 | pupnik | anybody know a maemo package in extras* that does not use autotools and has a simple debian/rules? |
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| 09:04.56 | MohammadAG | pupnik, use dh_make to generate simple ones |
| 09:05.19 | MohammadAG | #maemo seems quiet today |
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| 09:06.12 | pupnik | how aboot your quran app MohammadAG |
| 09:06.31 | MohammadAG | use it |
| 09:06.36 | yigal | ok I can be loquacious I'm a Jew by the way, but a quran app seems pretty cool |
| 09:06.44 | MohammadAG | the debian/rules in it is very simple |
| 09:06.58 | MohammadAG | :) |
| 09:07.08 | yigal | very few dependencies? |
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| 09:08.03 | MohammadAG | python |
| 09:08.13 | yigal | lol, cool |
| 09:08.15 | MohammadAG | python-hildon, -osso, etc |
| 09:08.27 | yigal | ya, good for text searching? |
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| 09:08.37 | yigal | parsing? |
| 09:09.18 | pupnik | googles maemo+scons+package |
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| 09:10.25 | yigal | 4 in a row GNOME games nothing like it |
| 09:10.42 | amigadave | pupnik: what are you building? i would be happy to autotoolize your project, if you like |
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| 09:11.32 | pupnik | amigadave: NOTED |
| 09:11.32 | yigal | passing a turing test, better join #philosophy |
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| 09:14.59 | Milo- | still no free doc/excel/ppt readers for n900? |
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| 09:17.16 | pupnik | i think abiword reads some .doc |
| 09:18.29 | pupnik | amigadave: dcc |
| 09:18.34 | asj | just port openoffice ;) |
| 09:18.48 | alterego | Heh |
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| 09:24.56 | N900evil | openoffice is installed on rhe easyy-debian chroot |
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| 09:29.32 | Stskeeps | X-Fade: should https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/bootmenu_1.7/ have ended up in repos yet? |
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| 09:30.06 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: I see only failed builds? |
| 09:30.11 | Stskeeps | hmm? |
| 09:30.20 | Stskeeps | armel.build.log.OK.txt is fine |
| 09:30.20 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2010-May/021146.html |
| 09:30.23 | alterego | hungry |
| 09:30.26 | Stskeeps | but i386 isn't |
| 09:30.39 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: Yes, but everything has to be OK. |
| 09:30.45 | Stskeeps | ah, fair enough - was what i asked before :) |
| 09:31.02 | X-Fade | And that is why I said that it won't be imported ;) |
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| 09:38.27 | Khertan_ | Hi all ! |
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| 09:39.59 | SpeedEvil | Hi everyone except people whos nick md5sums to a sum ending in a 3. |
| 09:40.34 | KnightStalker | lol |
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| 09:41.24 | adeus | 8 |
| 09:41.40 | DocScrutinizer51 | look at that http://share.ovi.com/media/joerg900.screenshots/joerg900.10019 applauncher fsckd up |
| 09:42.21 | Khertan_ | 130d281677bae49f7e71f9c4995dab05 : oh ... so Hi SpeedEvil |
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| 09:42.52 | X-Fade | DocScrutinizer51: Known bug. Fixed in PR1.2 ;) |
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| 09:43.12 | DocScrutinizer51 | uhuh |
| 09:43.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | lol |
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| 09:43.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | reboot? |
| 09:43.51 | X-Fade | Power button helped, I think. |
| 09:44.09 | X-Fade | Or locking the screen. |
| 09:44.50 | SpeedEvil | Can anyone recall if the omap5350 has a fast hashing unit of some form? |
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| 09:45.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | powerbutton will help when held down 8sec :-P |
| 09:46.41 | Khertan_ | DocScrutinizer51: and not use it again |
| 09:46.46 | SpeedEvil | 3530 even. |
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| 09:47.29 | X-Fade | SpeedEvil: sha1 or something like that? |
| 09:47.35 | DocScrutinizer51 | waves |
| 09:47.40 | SpeedEvil | X-Fade: yes |
| 09:48.01 | X-Fade | I seem to recall reading something about that yes. |
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| 09:48.58 | X-Fade | SpeedEvil: drivers/crypto/omap-sha1-md5.c in kernel |
| 09:49.24 | X-Fade | SpeedEvil: At least there was a recent patch: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org/msg04318.html |
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| 09:50.04 | SpeedEvil | Thanks - I think I must have missed that |
| 09:50.41 | X-Fade | Not sure if it is in the kernel we are using, but I guess you can find that out ;) |
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| 09:52.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | blarghh. powerbutton also completely useless |
| 09:52.34 | DocScrutinizer51 | happy me has xterm |
| 09:52.41 | Trewas | hrm, n900 has now crashed a couple of time after removing usb-cable (in mass-storage mode)... and crashed to the point that removing the battery is the only fix |
| 09:52.48 | DocScrutinizer51 | and shutdown -r now |
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| 09:57.25 | Oli``` | Hi all. I fed my N900 too much extras-devel and now it won't boot (w00t! I'm an idiot!) What are my options for getting it up and running again? Is it just a full re-flash or can I go in like a ninja (somehow) and move a load of /usr/ off to opt and ln it back? |
| 09:57.55 | pupnik | Oli```: i don't know of any ninja solutions for non-booting n900 |
| 09:57.59 | Stskeeps | well, depends on how hardcore you are with kernels and initrd |
| 09:58.01 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 09:59.13 | Oli``` | I've been reading http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Flash but I can't find where he gets his "proprietary" flasher-3.5 binary from |
| 09:59.18 | pupnik | tries to run from Stskeeps but cannot see him |
| 09:59.30 | viliny__ | Oli```: the maemo flasher? nokia website? |
| 10:00.07 | viliny__ | http://maemo.org/news/announcements/maemo_flasher-3-5_tool_final_for_fremantle_and_diablo_released/ |
| 10:00.10 | viliny__ | is that of any help? |
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| 10:00.22 | Stskeeps | tablets-dev.nokia.com |
| 10:00.24 | Oli``` | viliny__: yeah googled it and ended up here http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php |
| 10:00.30 | viliny__ | ah i see |
| 10:00.52 | Oli``` | awesome, a deb! |
| 10:01.27 | Oli``` | less awesome - only i386... let's see what a bit of --force-architecture does |
| 10:01.39 | Oli``` | bricks his PC |
| 10:01.51 | viliny__ | NOW THOSE i know how to fix ;) |
| 10:02.43 | Oli``` | awesome, that worked fine |
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| 10:07.38 | SpeedEvil | Re above crypto hash patch that x fade linked to - if anyone is mildly interested - it looks like it's very not in kernel at the moment - the patch state was - well - ripped to shreds may be harsh - but it looks like it's not going in in that form. |
| 10:07.58 | Oli``` | wishes his phone didn't smell of elderberries |
| 10:08.59 | SpeedEvil | better than if it was a hampster. |
| 10:09.10 | Oli``` | ;) |
| 10:09.10 | DocScrutinizer | bangs head against wall |
| 10:09.11 | achipa | did the package importer get unborked ? |
| 10:09.27 | DocScrutinizer | waaaaahaaaahaaahaha FFS ½³â¼²½«ÄjÅöⶽ ŧ½ |
| 10:09.37 | DocScrutinizer | powerbutton DEAD |
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| 10:09.56 | SpeedEvil | notes 'Hello - I think you may be trying to bang your head on the keyboad. Do you need any help?' |
| 10:09.57 | DocScrutinizer | next repair |
| 10:10.15 | SpeedEvil | oh dear. |
| 10:10.22 | SpeedEvil | Were you maybe pressing it a bit hard? |
| 10:10.37 | DocScrutinizer | this time defionitely NOTHING wrong I've done |
| 10:10.48 | viliny__ | how do you determine it to be dead? |
| 10:11.04 | DocScrutinizer | press it, device doesn't come up?? |
| 10:11.06 | SpeedEvil | viliny__: It's pining for the fjords. |
| 10:11.17 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: does it feel wierd? |
| 10:11.19 | DocScrutinizer | or doesn't shut down, or show no menu |
| 10:11.27 | DocScrutinizer | no, feels nice |
| 10:11.32 | DocScrutinizer | FPC!!! |
| 10:11.39 | SpeedEvil | battery out, wait 5 min? |
| 10:11.41 | viliny__ | SpeedEvil: going a bit python today eh? |
| 10:11.43 | DocScrutinizer | k |
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| 10:11.57 | SpeedEvil | viliny__: There is not a day when I'm not. |
| 10:11.58 | DocScrutinizer | done that, except the 5min part |
| 10:12.18 | SpeedEvil | walks off. (in Ministry of Silly walks style 47) |
| 10:12.25 | DocScrutinizer | ohh SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT |
| 10:12.33 | viliny__ | enough of this gay banter |
| 10:12.42 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 10:12.49 | DocScrutinizer | well I can live a few weeks without powerbutton, I guess |
| 10:12.59 | viliny__ | how exactly can you live without powerbutton? |
| 10:13.24 | SpeedEvil | viliny__: device will turn itself on if charger is plugged in IIRC. |
| 10:13.34 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 10:13.38 | SpeedEvil | Oh - actually - yes it will - but only to first stage |
| 10:13.48 | DocScrutinizer | ohnoes |
| 10:13.48 | SpeedEvil | I don't think it will actually boot into the OS that way |
| 10:14.08 | Stskeeps | r&d flags, force-power-key |
| 10:14.10 | SpeedEvil | I suppose in principle you could flash a new kernel/userspace that would |
| 10:14.11 | Oli``` | yey phone boots! |
| 10:14.20 | SpeedEvil | or that |
| 10:14.23 | DocScrutinizer | Stskeeps: my hero |
| 10:14.39 | viliny__ | what does that do Stskeeps ? |
| 10:15.27 | DocScrutinizer | you think the 5 min are over? |
| 10:15.29 | Stskeeps | viliny__: forces all boots to be like power button was held down |
| 10:15.30 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 10:16.40 | viliny__ | Stskeeps: ah i see, my first guess was mapping power to another button :) |
| 10:16.45 | DocScrutinizer | ohhhhh :-((( |
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| 10:17.47 | viliny__ | it's been exactly 5 minutes according to my timestamps |
| 10:18.25 | viliny__ | i was going to say that you should press the powerbutton while the battery is off to discharge the phone but that would have been cruel. |
| 10:18.40 | viliny__ | And im not even sure if that works :) |
| 10:19.41 | DocScrutinizer | og freggles. maybe it's a bad switch. It came up with much with flashy yellow charger led finally. Seems I had to press the button one side only |
| 10:19.46 | pupnik | ok... we have perl on tablets. so... http://www.robobunny.com/projects/asciiquarium/html/ |
| 10:20.26 | DocScrutinizer | s/much with/much short white/ |
| 10:20.53 | DocScrutinizer | Or maybe the rain? |
| 10:22.12 | Treibholz | hmm, is there something similar to shazam on the iPhone? |
| 10:23.57 | DocScrutinizer | definitely a wanky contact in or on switch |
| 10:24.31 | Shapeshifter | pupnik: do you know if the Term::Animation module is packaged for maemo5? |
| 10:25.32 | DocScrutinizer | hooray, repair shop again |
| 10:25.41 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer: :/ |
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| 10:26.11 | DocScrutinizer | the bastards killed the switch while replacing the cable, it seems |
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| 10:27.54 | pupnik | Shapeshifter: i figured it isn't worth putting in my queue. But an ascii aquarium does rule. |
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| 10:28.30 | SpeedEvil | Re above hash - it looks like it got pushed upstream for kernel acceptance 'soon' - after serious editing |
| 10:30.08 | Shapeshifter | pupnik: mh. seems like not even ncurses for perl is packaged |
| 10:33.07 | DocScrutinizer | good, repair shop has enough competence in house to replace the switch, rather than send the whole device to nokia for weeks another time |
| 10:33.28 | RST38h | moos moodily |
| 10:33.42 | DocScrutinizer | they better had, otherwise I'd ask Nokia to take over their local business here |
| 10:33.59 | DocScrutinizer | hi RST38h |
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| 10:35.36 | DocScrutinizer | I definitely should try to get a development device |
| 10:36.20 | RST38h | HELO Doc |
| 10:36.28 | RST38h | tmo is dead again? |
| 10:36.56 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: ask if they have any brokenish motherboards to play with |
| 10:36.57 | Khertan_ | RST38h: not for me |
| 10:37.08 | DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: do you know if the developers lend out devices are preproduction or hw is identical to the MP version? |
| 10:37.19 | pupnik | boycott fuckin tmo unless we can ignore users |
| 10:37.40 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: whom? repair shop? |
| 10:37.51 | X-Fade | DocScrutinizer: I think it was the first production run, but I don't know for sure. |
| 10:38.21 | achipa | X-Fade: sorry to bother, but is the package importer stuck ? abiword still hasn't shown up :) |
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| 10:38.33 | DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: but USB andbatcharger circuitry isn't fundamentally different on those? |
| 10:39.09 | achipa | DocScrutinizer: it's production, but production itself has changed a few revisions since then :) |
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| 10:40.18 | Jaffa | pupnik: You mean users in general? You can ignore specific user accounts. |
| 10:40.25 | Jaffa | is coming round to the "more harsh moderation" |
| 10:40.31 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizeryes |
| 10:40.35 | DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: probably you can't help on that topic, but maybe you know somebody you could ask. See, if I try to put hostmode to work, and face issues during that due to hw is different to what the masses buy at local store, the whole enterprise is rather silly |
| 10:41.13 | SpeedEvil | Especially if working with others with MP hw |
| 10:41.13 | X-Fade | DocScrutinizer: No idea, sorry. Ask on the list? |
| 10:41.26 | lcuk | Jaffa, public flogging? |
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| 10:41.39 | X-Fade | achipa: This one? http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/abiword/2.8.1-2maemo2/ |
| 10:41.48 | DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: yes. Thanks for pointing me at it. Seems I need a coffee |
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| 10:42.08 | DocScrutinizer | as it should've been obvious to me |
| 10:42.40 | achipa | X-Fade: yep. It's there on the interface, but no sign of it when I do apt-cache policy after an update |
| 10:43.23 | X-Fade | achipa: I can download it here: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/a/abiword/abiword_2.8.1-2maemo2_armel.deb |
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| 10:43.32 | achipa | X-Fade: in fact... I see a 2.8.1-2, which is supposed to be 'cleaned by repository management'. hm |
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| 10:44.52 | pupnik | Jaffa: ? this is a new feature? I'd /ignore whole swaths of folks. Because i don't want to be forced to insult people online. |
| 10:45.23 | pupnik | i might even post something useful again |
| 10:45.45 | achipa | X-Fade: SNAFU. I'm correct, I just zgrepped packages gz from extras-devel, that package is NOT there. The cleaned up one, however, IS |
| 10:46.14 | achipa | X-Fade: akamai magic ? |
| 10:46.42 | X-Fade | achipa: They are both there in the repo. |
| 10:46.52 | X-Fade | But not in the Packages file. |
| 10:47.30 | X-Fade | Let me check what happened there. My guess is that your SNAFU with the date has something to do with it. |
| 10:47.36 | achipa | exactly. That's what I'm saying :) |
| 10:47.56 | achipa | knew it it's going to be his fault XD |
| 10:48.59 | achipa | though it IS the date, I'd say we need a check for it... /me ducks and heads for cover |
| 10:49.43 | X-Fade | achipa: I wonder why apt-ftparchive doesn't add the package to Packages. |
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| 10:50.13 | Dima_Sharihin | X-Fade, it doesn't add the package in the /var/apt/archives? |
| 10:50.34 | jacekowski | i need help |
| 10:50.36 | X-Fade | Dima_Sharihin: huh? |
| 10:50.49 | Dima_Sharihin | X-Fade, or what is "Packages"? |
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| 10:51.29 | jacekowski | i'm in the shop looking at earphones |
| 10:51.33 | DocScrutinizer | anybody toss me a URL or unique search key term for google, to find the devel device lendout program page (on wiki.maemo.org?) |
| 10:51.46 | jacekowski | and they hava skullcandy earphones with 4 pin plug |
| 10:52.02 | jacekowski | are these compatible with N900 |
| 10:52.18 | Dima_Sharihin | jacekowski, try to plug and test =) |
| 10:52.27 | DocScrutinizer | lol, yeah |
| 10:52.41 | asj | jacekowski: if they are ipod compatible then I beleive the answer is no |
| 10:52.43 | jacekowski | i would have to buy it |
| 10:52.56 | DocScrutinizer | asj: huh? why? |
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| 10:53.23 | asj | DocScrutinizer: I've heard nokia and apple has wired the 4th connection differently |
| 10:53.28 | asj | DocScrutinizer: never verified it |
| 10:53.30 | Dima_Sharihin | jacekowski, you can buy 4pin-3pin adapter for nokia mobiles |
| 10:53.32 | DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: try with any arbitrary MP3 player |
| 10:54.00 | Dima_Sharihin | asj, I think, that 4pin connection isn't standart =) |
| 10:54.13 | DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: the pinout is in such a way so it is compatible with standard headphones (without mic) |
| 10:54.31 | Dima_Sharihin | DocScrutinizer, and with mic?? =) |
| 10:54.50 | X-Fade | achipa: I'd suggest to increase the version number and not to mess up again :) |
| 10:54.58 | DocScrutinizer | Dima_Sharihin: please try to ask more precise questions. |
| 10:55.23 | X-Fade | achipa: I think the order of the changelog you see on the packages page is also the order packages get imported. |
| 10:55.27 | achipa | X-Fade: :D okay |
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| 10:55.34 | DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: so the 4pin pinout is as standard as it gets |
| 10:55.40 | jacekowski | didn't worked |
| 10:55.41 | X-Fade | achipa: by the debian tools. |
| 10:55.46 | pupnik | i really would love to make a little app to record a few tracks of audio - to jot-down song ideas |
| 10:55.47 | asj | http://pinouts.ru/connector/4_pin_3.5mm_2.5mm_plug_connector.shtml |
| 10:55.52 | asj | there's your answers |
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| 10:56.34 | Dima_Sharihin | If the headphone jack coincides with the 3-pin as the microphone can vary contact? (sorry, google translate) |
| 10:57.07 | frals | how does this whole MWKN on twitter work, can i just tweet "@mwkn Apps fMMS is awesome"? |
| 10:57.13 | jacekowski | ipod headphones get detected as tvout cable |
| 10:57.20 | frals | looks over in Jaffas general direction |
| 10:57.34 | SpeedEvil | frals: Put that in the next fmms as a button |
| 10:57.42 | DocScrutinizer | asj: actually the best answer is there: http://members.omtp.org/Lists/ReqPublications/Attachments/36/OMTP_Local_Connectivity_Wired_Analogue_Audio_v1_0.pdf |
| 10:57.59 | achipa | X-Fade: you know what's super funny ? abiword_2.8.1-2_armel.deb and abiword_2.8.1-2maemo2_i386.deb |
| 10:58.17 | achipa | X-Fade: note how the versions are cross-linked with the arch |
| 10:58.18 | pupnik | :D |
| 10:58.24 | Dima_Sharihin | XD |
| 10:59.01 | X-Fade | achipa: I know why that is, but don't feel like explaining ;) |
| 10:59.12 | asj | DocScrutinizer: not really :| |
| 10:59.13 | frals | achipa: im very impressed with how you seem to have broken completly, kudos! |
| 10:59.13 | achipa | X-Fade: heh :D ok |
| 10:59.13 | Dima_Sharihin | achipa, is there Gnumeric Spreadsheet ported on maemo? |
| 10:59.24 | achipa | Dima_Sharihin: no idea |
| 10:59.27 | frals | s/broken/broken stuff/ |
| 10:59.49 | X-Fade | achipa: Next time don't mix .dsc files, mess up changelog etc ;) |
| 10:59.51 | achipa | frals: what can I say, I'm a natural :) |
| 11:00.01 | DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: N900 detects standard headsets with 3pin connector as such, afaik. That means the pinout for a headset is compatble with the pinout for a 3pin standard headphones, except the lowest additional ring is MIC/TV-CVBS-out |
| 11:00.05 | achipa | X-Fade: pffft, but where's the fun then ? XD |
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| 11:00.25 | achipa | wonders if he's a hidden QA talent |
| 11:00.55 | DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: like <L|R|M|gnd*********** |
| 11:00.56 | Dima_Sharihin | DocScrutinizer, http://pinouts.ru/CellularPhones-Nokia/nokia_headset_pinout.shtml <- really? |
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| 11:01.33 | Dima_Sharihin | oh, sorry. This was 2.5mm connector |
| 11:01.45 | DocScrutinizer | Dima_Sharihin: I won't go check arbitrary random websites for you |
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| 11:02.11 | achipa | is off to try to break^H^H^H^H upload to extras-devel again |
| 11:03.08 | DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: while <L|R|-gnd-*********** is a standard 3.5mm headset plug |
| 11:03.15 | DocScrutinizer | err headphones |
| 11:03.49 | DocScrutinizer | it's just missing the 3rd ring, next to base/sleeve/ground |
| 11:05.44 | achipa | Jaffa: hey, didn't know you were against karma lately ? |
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| 11:17.34 | lcuk | lardman, \@ |
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| 11:20.43 | alterego | wtf is this kernel image so fucking big .. |
| 11:21.36 | mece | it's not the size that matters, it's how you use it! |
| 11:22.02 | Jaffa | achipa: I'm not against karma. Why does everyone keep saying that? (Just got an email suggesting I was) |
| 11:22.18 | achipa | Jaffa: that's what I was referring to :) |
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| 11:23.49 | Jaffa | achipa: I'm just trying to be impartial in the discussion about MeeGo karma (my requirement is that people I think should be recognised get recognised ;-)) |
| 11:23.56 | DocScrutinizer | Shapeshifter: check http://wiki.maemo.org/Fcron! |
| 11:29.05 | mece | or http://wiki.maemo.org/Fcron |
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| 11:29.27 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer: yeah I've seen it, been around for a while. good stuff. |
| 11:29.42 | mece | yeah Jaffa, quit being against Karma! |
| 11:29.50 | mece | is joking. |
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| 11:30.47 | achipa | Jaffa: I have the feeling the baby is going to be thrown out with the bathwater here. I don't care what people want to call it, top list, karma, whatever, but agree that the goal is to make it point out relevant people without getting a buddy-o-cracy or pop-contests |
| 11:30.51 | DocScrutinizer | Shapeshifter: there's incorrect statements about alarmed in there |
| 11:31.10 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer: yeah. I'm correcting it right now |
| 11:31.19 | DocScrutinizer | good :-) |
| 11:31.25 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer: I don't get the part about "not able to set any time" |
| 11:31.34 | DocScrutinizer | me neither |
| 11:31.39 | Shapeshifter | I'll just remove it... |
| 11:31.44 | DocScrutinizer | that's why I put it in italic |
| 11:32.19 | DocScrutinizer | also it's not quite clear if fcron actually boots the device, via RTC alarm |
| 11:32.34 | DocScrutinizer | which clearly is a big advantage of alarmed |
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| 11:33.27 | DocScrutinizer | well, just meant to make sure you're aware of it |
| 11:33.47 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer: I never tested if alarmed events do boot the n900, though I strongly suspect it does. Also, I think you can't even turn it off atm. I looked into in once, and iirc the pymaemo bindings are missing the bit to disable the auto-boot thing and bahaviour on missing an event. |
| 11:34.15 | Shapeshifter | imo an advantage of alarmed is that it uses alrmd as the daemon and doesn't need another daemon running.. |
| 11:34.30 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 11:34.40 | Shapeshifter | I think I need to write a wiki page for Alarmed some day. |
| 11:34.52 | DocScrutinizer | exactly. and that's why I doubt fcron actually does boot |
| 11:35.24 | Shapeshifter | yep |
| 11:35.48 | DocScrutinizer | I'd suggest a merge, but... up to you devels |
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| 11:36.52 | DocScrutinizer | (merge) i.e fcron adopts your alarmd managing, and your alarmed uses fcron instead of alarmd directly |
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| 11:37.53 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer: I think fcron is an okay alternative to alarmed for people who don't want the python/pyside dependencies (atm even libboost but not for long) and don't need such a rich feature set. |
| 11:37.59 | Shapeshifter | choice is good ;) |
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| 11:45.13 | th3hate | Can anyone confirm whats writen here? |
| 11:45.18 | th3hate | http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.maemo.ch/nokia-dev-congress-zurich/1407&sl=de&tl=en |
| 11:46.11 | TomaszD | interesting |
| 11:46.24 | TomaszD | as with any software release though, I'll believe it when I see it |
| 11:46.42 | th3hate | +1 |
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| 11:47.01 | th3hate | just wondering if he's a real nokia dev |
| 11:47.31 | TomaszD | I'm going to go out on a limb and say hell no |
| 11:47.41 | TomaszD | but we'll see |
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| 11:50.01 | Khertan_ | oh t.m.o update ? |
| 11:50.55 | timeless | me sighs |
| 11:51.14 | timeless | took another excursion yo yhe nokia store |
| 11:51.24 | timeless | sighs |
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| 11:52.01 | timeless | one of the notebooks was in "flight" mode |
| 11:52.13 | timeless | and none of the staff new how to get it out |
| 11:53.02 | tekojo | timeless: did you? |
| 11:53.07 | lcuk | timeless, they have nokia stores on airplanes now? :D |
| 11:55.10 | timeless | no |
| 11:55.10 | timeless | but i'm not paid to know :) |
| 11:55.37 | timeless | do you know how useful the nokia laptops are at the store w/o wifi/bt? |
| 11:55.56 | timeless | everyone i saw trying to use it tried to use IE |
| 11:56.02 | timeless | which didn't work... |
| 11:56.16 | timeless | was trying to use BT |
| 11:57.04 | Nitial | I'm jealous that t.m.o gets more software updates than my n900 |
| 11:57.05 | timeless | hrm, clearly touch typing w/ the n900 isn'y error free |
| 11:57.17 | timeless | keeps missing the 't' key |
| 11:57.49 | Termana | timeless, purpose misspelling there? (on isn't) |
| 11:57.51 | Termana | :P |
| 11:57.58 | timeless | nope |
| 11:58.07 | timeless | merily coincident |
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| 12:01.46 | Netrum | Hi all. whats new in the maemo universe today? :) |
| 12:02.31 | Shapeshifter | Netrum: maemo is now called meamo |
| 12:02.39 | Dima_Sharihin | O_o |
| 12:02.59 | Netrum | imagine if they actually did that :P |
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| 12:04.01 | Shapeshifter | nobody would notice |
| 12:04.12 | Netrum | yea probably :) |
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| 12:05.18 | Netrum | anyone here had any success running joikuspot on the n900 ? stability and such |
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| 12:08.08 | Jaffa | achipa: Good point - I'd thought about that "positions" comment but didn't want to appear to strengthen whatever position I'm supposed to have. |
| 12:08.32 | Stskeeps | well, project wise it will be easy to see who's in what teams and such at least |
| 12:08.40 | Stskeeps | as it's a meritocracy |
| 12:08.48 | Stskeeps | (ie, in a meego context) |
| 12:09.04 | cehteh | maego :) |
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| 12:09.46 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: I bet the vast majority of the community won't be in any specific "team" |
| 12:09.54 | Jaffa | should've brought this up on #meego |
| 12:10.12 | Jaffa | does so :) |
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| 12:11.23 | achipa | thanks and braces for impact/fallout :) |
| 12:11.45 | Dima202 | netrum, I am running mobile hotspot with great success |
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| 12:16.20 | MohammadAG_ | ~seen noobmonk3y |
| 12:16.21 | infobot | noobmonk3y <~noobmonk3@host86-178-50-44.range86-178.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 1d 15h 7m 48s ago, saying: 'not allways a bad thing :P'. |
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| 12:18.26 | BCMM_ | can i get a C compiler on my n900? |
| 12:19.32 | lcuk | yes |
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| 12:19.53 | lcuk | add sdk/tools repositories and install build-essential to get your compiler goodness |
| 12:19.58 | lcuk | includes support for make too :) |
| 12:20.48 | Gilly | On a related note, is there haskell compiler for n900? :P |
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| 12:21.31 | adeus | I thik so |
| 12:21.33 | adeus | +n |
| 12:23.10 | BCMM_ | is there a list of official catalogues? |
| 12:23.23 | BCMM_ | and how does one add sdk/tools? |
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| 12:25.29 | Gilly | adeus: hmm, ported ghc or something else? |
| 12:25.48 | crashanddie | BCMM_: don't add sdk/tools to your n900 |
| 12:26.02 | crashanddie | BCMM_: sdk/tools should only be used inside the scratchbox environment |
| 12:26.22 | Dima202 | Hey I just read a threat about some guy qole reporting from an imaginary inside soruce flash 10 will not be coming to n900 |
| 12:26.27 | Dima202 | thread* |
| 12:26.33 | crashanddie | lcuk: we really should package build-essential into extras |
| 12:26.55 | crashanddie | Dima202: qole is usually quite accurate |
| 12:26.56 | lcuk | nahh but it needs to be optified |
| 12:27.07 | lcuk | and find a decent mechanism to allow dpkg-buildpackage too ;) |
| 12:27.26 | Jaffa | Dima202: How do you know the source is imaginary? And qole's not just "some guy", y'know :-) |
| 12:27.27 | Dima202 | crashanddie, but i've seen flash 10 work on fremantle it was demoed not too long ago |
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| 12:28.00 | Termana | DEMOed doesn't mean it will be RELEASED |
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| 12:28.36 | Dima202 | fucking nokia, bunch of wankers |
| 12:28.49 | MohammadAG_ | grrr |
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| 12:29.15 | Termana | Dima202, I' |
| 12:29.21 | Termana | I'll be sure to pass on the message |
| 12:29.28 | Termana | Now, GTFO :) |
| 12:29.41 | Termana | Please. |
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| 12:30.58 | viliny__ | why wouldn't flash 10 come to the n900 anyway? |
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| 12:31.06 | viliny__ | is there any reason why it wouldn't? |
| 12:31.17 | lcuk | Dima202, theres no need to be so abusive |
| 12:31.17 | crashanddie | Dima202: Nokia has most likely not much to do with Flash 10 not coming to it |
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| 12:32.42 | Dima202 | I see Adobe did their part just fine from the demonstration. I'm guessing Nokia thinks it might hurt profits for the latest and greatest future release |
| 12:32.58 | DocScrutinizer | (([2010-05-06 12:33:07] <DocScrutinizer> good, repair shop has enough competence in house to replace the switch, rather than send the whole device to nokia for weeks another time)) Muhahaha, as the device was sent in to Nokia last time (3weeks ago), they can't fix it themselves, they need to send in again, as Nokia has to fix their fix - OMG |
| 12:33.09 | crashanddie | Dima202: my intuition would be that Adobe scrapped the ARM development team for a while because of the iPhone news, which also included the n900 devs |
| 12:34.23 | DocScrutinizer | fsckng buerocrat idiots |
| 12:34.29 | crashanddie | Dima202: I don't see in what deranged world you live to think that Flash 10 could hurt their sales performances in a significant way, quite the contrary even |
| 12:35.02 | Jaffa | Dima202: As crashanddie says, it's difficult to imagine why Nokia wouldn't want to be getting the press that Android is getting. |
| 12:35.25 | DocScrutinizer | alternatively I can pay for the repair myself, a minimum of 70EUR, *to resolder a pad!!* |
| 12:35.35 | Dima202 | Android is coming out with 9 or 10? |
| 12:35.38 | Jaffa | Dima202: There's a long way from a tech demo on an N900 to a supportable release. And, as I heard it, Adobe are concentrating on the Android release first. |
| 12:37.04 | satmd | does not want flash |
| 12:37.10 | satmd | I love n900 for allowing me to disable it |
| 12:37.15 | aquatix | Dima202: 10 |
| 12:37.17 | Dima202 | heh |
| 12:37.26 | Dima202 | I guess I over reacted, sorry |
| 12:37.39 | shamus | flash is over rated |
| 12:37.41 | DocScrutinizer | or I resolder myself and void my waranty |
| 12:37.53 | satmd | flash is a risk to privacy |
| 12:37.59 | aquatix | shamus: absolutely overrated |
| 12:38.00 | satmd | and to security too |
| 12:38.08 | aquatix | too bad there's still too much out there using it |
| 12:38.14 | Termana | satmd, Steve Jobs - I didn't notice you there! |
| 12:38.21 | aquatix | ghehe |
| 12:38.21 | shamus | and flash kills batteries faster then you can say feed me in hungry |
| 12:38.24 | satmd | then again, java is too |
| 12:38.43 | lcuk | i am in 2 minds about flash |
| 12:38.51 | aquatix | lcuk: me too |
| 12:38.54 | lcuk | on the one hand, it lets me see playboy yoga |
| 12:38.55 | satmd | if I were steve, I'd hate my own company - that'd be awkward |
| 12:39.00 | aquatix | just had the discussion at work :) |
| 12:39.08 | lcuk | on the other theres multiple flash advertisements on the same page slowing the experience |
| 12:39.12 | crashanddie | satmd: I agree with you about flash, also agree with the fact java isn't necessarily the best for mobile devices |
| 12:39.15 | lcuk | so i want default click to view |
| 12:39.45 | DocScrutinizer | slowing is a polite word |
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| 12:39.52 | crashanddie | lcuk: flashblock has made my life on laptop so much more enjoyable |
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| 12:40.15 | lcuk | bah - as a flashblock guy myself (first OSS project i helped out with) |
| 12:40.19 | lcuk | i know its limitations |
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| 12:40.26 | Dima202 | hmm, what about adblock? |
| 12:40.29 | lcuk | and think that parsing the DOM to disable already activated flash |
| 12:40.32 | lcuk | to be the wrong way |
| 12:40.40 | lcuk | Dima202, i dont mind ads in principle |
| 12:40.54 | lcuk | website operators have a right to get some cash afterall |
| 12:40.57 | crashanddie | lcuk: seriously, it's just amazing to see all the websites where there are 1px by 1px to track your time on the site, which part you look at, etc |
| 12:41.01 | DocScrutinizer | "click to start plugin" - ftw |
| 12:41.12 | crashanddie | DocScrutinizer: aye |
| 12:41.17 | lcuk | the best way to get click to play would be a binary shim |
| 12:41.20 | lcuk | that acted like flash |
| 12:41.30 | lcuk | and worked natively and quickly |
| 12:41.35 | lcuk | and just forwarded everything through |
| 12:41.38 | lcuk | once you click |
| 12:42.01 | DocScrutinizer | isn't it implemented like that? |
| 12:42.07 | lcuk | no |
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| 12:42.09 | crashanddie | on safari it is |
| 12:42.11 | lcuk | it scans the DOM after loading |
| 12:42.15 | lcuk | and replaces the elements |
| 12:42.17 | DocScrutinizer | OMFG |
| 12:42.29 | SpeedEvil | lcuk: A binary shim - which meant that if flash crashed - it would just stall flash |
| 12:42.32 | lcuk | its a js thing |
| 12:42.43 | lcuk | SpeedEvil, flash itself is a binary plugin |
| 12:42.50 | SpeedEvil | lcuk: I know |
| 12:42.54 | lcuk | so when an element has <object ...> its loaded |
| 12:43.04 | crashanddie | because safari spawns its own processes for each plugin, whether it's flash, java, or whatever |
| 12:43.07 | lcuk | just replace that plugin with another |
| 12:43.09 | SpeedEvil | lcuk: But if you had a shim, the flash process may run under a different process |
| 12:43.09 | alterego | Anyone used Nokia's qemu n900 emulation? I just booted the meego nand image :) |
| 12:43.12 | alterego | It's awesome. |
| 12:43.20 | lcuk | SpeedEvil, potentially but i wouldnt expect that |
| 12:43.25 | lcuk | its reengineering severly |
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| 12:43.53 | alterego | Slightly annoyed that it emulates the N900 keyboard, so I have to memorise the blue symbols and use ALT a lot :( |
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| 12:44.39 | lcuk | is mentioned on the flashblock credits page (claim to fame:D) http://flashblock.mozdev.org/credits.html |
| 12:45.02 | SpeedEvil | alterego: tippex |
| 12:45.10 | DocScrutinizer | mumbles nonprintable swearwords about Korean solder quality and wrestlers untrained for sensible work at Nokia repair shop, and heads out into the friggin rain |
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| 12:45.25 | SpeedEvil | My claim to fame is I'm mentioned on a flash patent. |
| 12:45.26 | SpeedEvil | err |
| 12:45.29 | SpeedEvil | flashlight patent |
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| 12:45.36 | lcuk | fleshlight? |
| 12:45.40 | SpeedEvil | no. |
| 12:45.50 | haltdef_ | read that as fleshlight patient |
| 12:45.53 | lcuk | cool beans |
| 12:45.53 | SpeedEvil | Though I have read the fleshlight patent |
| 12:45.54 | haltdef_ | gets eyes checked |
| 12:46.13 | SpeedEvil | (I wanted to know how they make stretchy rubber) |
| 12:46.18 | lcuk | grabs dinner thats binged |
| 12:46.22 | Dima202 | lol wtf |
| 12:46.34 | viliny__ | how do they make stretchy rubber? |
| 12:47.03 | SpeedEvil | Viliny: It's a copolymer with a substansial gel component. IIRC |
| 12:47.16 | viliny__ | ah, so a wizard did it. |
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| 12:47.52 | Dima202 | damn, i've been paying for the real thing, could have just gotten unlimited for $65 |
| 12:47.54 | lcuk | MohammadAG_, hows your hacking going? |
| 12:48.24 | DocScrutinizer | hmmpf, mentioned on a patent... Same here, for GSDC's XMLMaker |
| 12:48.48 | MohammadAG_ | lcuk, just hit a brick wall :P |
| 12:49.05 | lcuk | a shiny pulsing brickwall? |
| 12:49.08 | DocScrutinizer | won't buy me candybars |
| 12:49.25 | crashanddie | MohammadAG_: what you hacking? |
| 12:49.27 | MohammadAG_ | lcuk, I got it working for the arrow keys, the rest, nope |
| 12:49.31 | MohammadAG_ | crashanddie, sec |
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| 12:49.50 | lcuk | MohammadAG_, thats a shame, will manage it - need to get it working with hotkeys to be really effective |
| 12:50.09 | lcuk | MohammadAG_, should i show him the pastebin i put up last night |
| 12:51.56 | MohammadAG_ | crashanddie, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3pvdFpA1II |
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| 12:52.06 | MohammadAG_ | lcuk, show him the script if he wants to do it :) |
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| 12:52.32 | crashanddie | MohammadAG_: excellent |
| 12:52.36 | lcuk | genius :D you youtubed it |
| 12:52.51 | crashanddie | MohammadAG_: bonus points if you can link that to a phone profile, which would do that when in silent mode |
| 12:52.52 | MohammadAG_ | lol |
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| 12:53.00 | lcuk | crashanddie, wanting to make closest led light up on keypress |
| 12:53.02 | BCMM_ | crashanddie: so is there a proper way to install GCC on an n900? |
| 12:53.13 | lcuk | BCMM_, look at scrollback i answered you |
| 12:53.15 | crashanddie | BCMM_: at the moment only as lcuk said |
| 12:53.40 | MohammadAG_ | <crashanddie> MohammadAG_: bonus points if you can link that to a phone profile, which would do that when in silent mode |
| 12:53.41 | BCMM_ | sorry lcuk |
| 12:53.48 | MohammadAG_ | great idea! |
| 12:53.56 | MohammadAG_ | might start on it once I finish lcuk's |
| 12:54.12 | lcuk | crashanddie, he also considered it for a throbber when busy processes |
| 12:54.30 | BCMM_ | lcuk, crashanddie: why shouldn't i install that on an n900? |
| 12:54.34 | crashanddie | how about using it to show the progress of an installation? |
| 12:54.51 | crashanddie | BCMM_: install sdk/tools repository, google for it. Though please be careful, and only use apt-get to install to install build-essential and then remove the repository as to not mess up your package manager |
| 12:54.54 | MohammadAG_ | <MohammadAG_> Might be cool if apps use the knight rider thing as a loading |
| 12:54.55 | MohammadAG_ | * MohammadAG_ is thinking healthcheck :P |
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| 12:55.26 | MohammadAG_ | Need to audio swap that vid, apparently mute is static lol |
| 12:55.28 | crashanddie | MohammadAG_: yeah, but also the progress indicator... every percent increments one button |
| 12:55.43 | MohammadAG_ | hmm, might not work if mce is running |
| 12:55.54 | crashanddie | hey, you're the dev, I'm just the ideas guy |
| 12:55.58 | MohammadAG_ | kill mce and it'll work immediately |
| 12:55.59 | MohammadAG_ | LOL |
| 12:56.09 | crashanddie | don't tell me "might not work because of x", just do it :P |
| 12:56.19 | BCMM_ | crashanddie: what happens otherwise? conflicting dev versions of things? |
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| 12:56.36 | MohammadAG_ | crashanddie, and the QA testing team? :) |
| 12:56.55 | Arkenoi | retweet pingbacks as blog comments suck big time. why the f should i read a list of people who read the same and retweeted? |
| 12:57.22 | alterego | tweeter feedback? :) |
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| 12:58.04 | Arkenoi | twitter sucks, too |
| 12:58.21 | Arkenoi | but at least i am not forced to read it |
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| 13:22.05 | alterego | Anyone have an idea of how I could make a complete image of the nand flash in the N900? |
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| 13:26.52 | alterego | Don't even need to, I can generate it from a fiasco image :D |
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| 14:13.56 | DocScrutinizer | ~botsnack |
| 14:13.56 | infobot | :), DocScrutinizer |
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| 14:40.58 | SmokeyD | hey everyone. Can I get a proper bash shell on my maemo device with the same versions of commandline tools (du and others) as I have on my normal ubuntu box |
| 14:41.19 | SmokeyD | I noticed that du at least is different from others and there are no man pages either in the normal terminal |
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| 14:43.05 | BCMM_ | smokey: there is a package for bash and one for coreutils |
| 14:43.21 | SmokeyD | BCMM_: ok, I will check it out |
| 14:43.24 | SmokeyD | thanks |
| 14:43.27 | BCMM_ | also, several for other little things like less |
| 14:43.43 | BCMM_ | there is some stuff with paths |
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| 14:44.06 | javispedro | afternoon gentleman |
| 14:44.18 | BCMM_ | coreutils does not install in the default $PATH to avoid some kind oof conflict |
| 14:44.27 | BCMM_ | after |
| 14:44.31 | BCMM_ | noon |
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| 14:54.55 | SmokeyD | BCMM_: it indeed was the PATH setting. I just added /opt/maemo/usr/bin/gnu/ to my PATH and now I get the normal commands again. |
| 14:54.58 | SmokeyD | thanks |
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| 14:59.46 | Stskeeps | morning afb |
| 15:00.33 | andrewfblack | Stskeeps: Morning |
| 15:01.24 | andrewfblack | Anything interesting going on? |
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| 15:02.05 | alterego | teeheehee |
| 15:02.13 | SmokeyD | andrewfblack: Yeah, I have a nokia N900, that is really very interesing |
| 15:02.17 | alterego | I managed to get PR1.2L to boot in qemu :D |
| 15:02.18 | SmokeyD | at least for me |
| 15:02.22 | SmokeyD | :) |
| 15:02.38 | SmokeyD | too interesting actually because I should be working instead of playing around with my phone :) |
| 15:02.38 | BCMM_ | andrewfblack: first 3-way UK election in a while... |
| 15:02.54 | alterego | I had to rip out the boot loader from the meego nand image. |
| 15:03.01 | BCMM_ | what is PR1.2L? |
| 15:03.34 | alterego | Vapourware |
| 15:03.52 | |R | Leak |
| 15:04.07 | SmokeyD | hmm, will I run into trouble installing the SDK on x86_64? |
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| 15:04.21 | alterego | SmokeyD: what SDK? |
| 15:04.28 | SmokeyD | maemo 5.0 SDK |
| 15:04.29 | alterego | SmokeyD: scratchbox? Or the Nokia Qt SDK? |
| 15:04.44 | alterego | Probably, I use a 32bit VM |
| 15:04.55 | alterego | People have done it, but I think there are some complications. |
| 15:05.04 | SmokeyD | ok |
| 15:05.04 | alterego | I can't remember off hand if I've done it in the past. |
| 15:05.32 | SmokeyD | then I'll fetch another VM :) |
| 15:05.37 | SmokeyD | thanks |
| 15:05.59 | alterego | np |
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| 15:12.51 | ZogG | SmokeyD i can't succeeded |
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| 15:17.21 | ZogG | hey |
| 15:17.25 | ZogG | sup folks |
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| 15:29.23 | andrewfblack | hides in corner and plays with Backflip |
| 15:30.04 | Jaffa | andrewfblack: "Backflip"? |
| 15:30.25 | andrewfblack | Jaffa: Yeah |
| 15:30.50 | Jaffa | andrewfblack: ... |
| 15:31.06 | andrewfblack | Jaffa: Moto Backflip |
| 15:31.14 | BCMM | isn't that a phone? |
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| 15:31.22 | andrewfblack | BCMM: Yes |
| 15:31.47 | BCMM | google |
| 15:31.50 | BCMM | oh, an android one |
| 15:32.26 | andrewfblack | BCMM: Yeah I sold out to android : ) |
| 15:34.52 | Jaffa | andrewfblack: Ah, I see. |
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| 15:36.50 | slonopotamus | tried to commit a file to svn repo and suddenly discovered that it was locked by someone since feb 2008 o_O |
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| 15:37.03 | Dassu | O_o |
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| 16:03.40 | zokier | ... and thats why we dont use svn |
| 16:03.59 | Dima_Sharihin | zokier, who dont use svn? |
| 16:08.33 | Trizt | timeless_mbp; sent you a new e-mail with the results after the latest update |
| 16:09.26 | BCMM | i am somewhat confused about Ovi Store - does it contain a mix of maemo and symbian apps or something? it says this is not for the n900 http://store.ovi.com/content/34132 |
| 16:12.41 | Jaffa | BCMM: If you navigate to it from an N900 you should only see N900 content. However, the multimedia stuff isn't compatible despite being sold. |
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| 16:14.12 | Mace_N900 | whoa |
| 16:14.18 | Mace_N900 | hexen 2! |
| 16:14.24 | Mace_N900 | classic :) |
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| 16:16.41 | Mace_N900 | i wonder if i have an old q3 cd lying around |
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| 16:18.18 | Mace_N900 | openarena? |
| 16:18.43 | Mace_N900 | im running on half a battery now so i will have fun with this later on |
| 16:18.46 | Mace_N900 | thanks |
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| 16:19.53 | lbt | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.31 | Dima_Sharihin | lbt, I'm sorry, offtop? |
| 16:20.40 | lbt | only a lot :) |
| 16:21.07 | lbt | but since when is #maemo ever on topic ... |
| 16:21.26 | VDVsx | ~poke lbt |
| 16:21.27 | infobot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind lbt, pokes lbt repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 16:21.58 | lbt | heh... anyway, we'll get meego support for it and backport it to maemo6 (which is meego) |
| 16:22.35 | VDVsx | lbt, HP print/scanners work well on Linux, so far I don't have any complain |
| 16:22.54 | VDVsx | but I would say that the major brands will work |
| 16:23.18 | VDVsx | otherwise you can write the drivers :D |
| 16:23.18 | Trizt | I have a Mustect USB scanner, been happy with it |
| 16:23.41 | Trizt | s/Mustect/Mustech/ |
| 16:23.58 | lbt | VDVsx: ta... do you know id that's a GPL(ish) driver or a binary? |
| 16:24.11 | lbt | Trizt: same question :) |
| 16:24.42 | VDVsx | lbt, not sure, but since it works out of the box in debian, should be GPL, |
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| 16:24.54 | lbt | yeah, that's good enough :) |
| 16:25.57 | VDVsx | there's some standards for these kind of devices, but as usual nobody cares :D |
| 16:26.06 | Dima_Sharihin | have Acer ScanPrisa 340P... was made in 2000, Linux support missing =(( |
| 16:26.12 | Trizt | think all the drivers in sane are gpl, as far as I seen |
| 16:27.17 | mikki-kun | hm... is there actually a way to put several hdds on the sata-interface of a notebook |
| 16:27.56 | Trizt | unplug sata-dvd and plug the other hard drive there |
| 16:28.41 | mikki-kun | tritz sata-dvd? |
| 16:29.08 | Trizt | or if you paid a lot you may have a sata-br |
| 16:29.09 | mikki-kun | is the dvd drive on a sata-interface? |
| 16:29.44 | Trizt | mikki-kun; depends on the laptop you bought, crap from HP, no, something from sony maybe |
| 16:30.06 | mikki-kun | cause i'd have a spare 3.5" 1.5TB here which i'd like to use |
| 16:30.33 | mikki-kun | Trizt: it would be a dell d620 |
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| 16:31.16 | Trizt | think it's an ide |
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| 16:31.30 | Err0r | ! |
| 16:31.36 | kokosz | 1.2 here yet? |
| 16:31.45 | Trizt | ~pr1.2 |
| 16:31.46 | infobot | i heard pr1.2 is not here yet. Stop asking. Read the topic Just stop asking. Read the topic. AND STOP ASKING. If you ask then release moves by another week, so do not ask. |
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| 16:32.01 | Dima_Sharihin | ~help |
| 16:32.57 | kokosz | help- the colours are too dark on my N900 in xchat., |
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| 16:33.07 | kokosz | cant see damn thing |
| 16:33.09 | RST38h | change them then |
| 16:33.20 | kokosz | how? it dont work |
| 16:33.33 | ZogG | doesn't* |
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| 16:33.52 | ZogG | kokosz, doesn't work what? |
| 16:34.00 | ZogG | are you on desctop or n900? |
| 16:34.13 | kokosz | changing colors in xchat on N900 dont work |
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| 16:34.26 | kokosz | cant see damn thing |
| 16:34.29 | ZogG | hahaha |
| 16:34.48 | ZogG | kokosz it's pretty fine be default actually |
| 16:34.54 | ZogG | where did you try to change? |
| 16:34.58 | RST38h | changing colors works for me. |
| 16:34.59 | ZogG | ~pr1.2 |
| 16:35.00 | infobot | i guess pr1.2 is not here yet. Stop asking. Read the topic Just stop asking. Read the topic. AND STOP ASKING. If you ask then release moves by another week, so do not ask. |
| 16:35.04 | ZogG | lol =) |
| 16:35.07 | kokosz | no....when i write its all black |
| 16:35.11 | d14 | "D |
| 16:35.23 | Dima_Sharihin | kokosz, open Settings->Colors |
| 16:35.24 | kokosz | how do i change my own colors? |
| 16:35.37 | Dima_Sharihin | In desktop version colors are configurable |
| 16:35.43 | kokosz | i did but dont see options for own color |
| 16:36.21 | kokosz | you peeps using xchat on n900 or sumething else? |
| 16:36.22 | Dima_Sharihin | but don't usethese silly features |
| 16:36.37 | sECuRE | kokosz: irssi |
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| 16:37.04 | kokosz | irssi...ok |
| 16:37.59 | marmoute | irssi++ (in a screen on a stable server |
| 16:38.57 | SpeedEvil | kokosz: I like xchat |
| 16:39.04 | Shapeshifter | I use irsii on screen on a server |
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| 16:40.45 | kokosz | i like xchat too but cant change damn colors and cant see damn thing i write |
| 16:41.05 | Dima_Sharihin | kokosz, don't see what you typing :D |
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| 16:41.33 | SpeedEvil | kokosz: You don't have a black text on white display? |
| 16:41.39 | kokosz | no |
| 16:41.39 | mikki-kun | hm, i would love to get the perl-extensions for irssi working ;/ |
| 16:41.52 | SpeedEvil | http://qkwv.com/xchat.png |
| 16:41.56 | SpeedEvil | like that? |
| 16:41.57 | tybollt | ~ask |
| 16:41.58 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 16:42.04 | SpeedEvil | kokosz: Do you have the default theme installed? |
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| 16:42.11 | kokosz | yes |
| 16:42.20 | kokosz | default theme |
| 16:42.28 | SpeedEvil | has no clue what's wrong. |
| 16:42.50 | Dima_Sharihin | kokosz, did you change default colors in xchat? |
| 16:42.56 | kokosz | im using xchat on N900 and the colors are hard to read |
| 16:42.57 | ZogG | screenshot pls |
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| 16:43.53 | ZogG_N900 | it's fine for me |
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| 16:45.21 | Dima_Sharihin | http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1705/47734165.png || mine xchat is fine too :D |
| 16:45.27 | kokosz | so you peeps using xchat on n900 dont find the colors dark? |
| 16:45.39 | SpeedEvil | kokosz: See above |
| 16:46.17 | ZogG | kokosz, http://yfrog.com/jc85op |
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| 16:46.41 | kokosz | speedevil - but i'm using N900 |
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| 16:46.53 | SpeedEvil | kokosz: See the above image I posted |
| 16:46.58 | SpeedEvil | kokosz: that's from n900 |
| 16:47.01 | SpeedEvil | (resized) |
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| 16:47.47 | lcuk | kokosz, i agree some of the colorchoices are suspect |
| 16:48.00 | Dima_Sharihin | low battery (= |
| 16:48.08 | lcuk | infact the font has even changed on this latest update |
| 16:48.21 | lcuk | i cant read blue on black nicknames |
| 16:48.29 | kokosz | speedevil yes!!!!! how did you get it like that??? |
| 16:48.38 | SpeedEvil | kokosz: I forgot. |
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| 16:48.50 | SpeedEvil | kokosz: I beat the config files with a hammer, I think. |
| 16:48.52 | SpeedEvil | hangon |
| 16:49.01 | kokosz | man!!! that's what i need |
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| 16:49.17 | MohammadAG_ | <SpeedEvil> http://qkwv.com/xchat.png |
| 16:49.22 | MohammadAG_ | that's so.... simple |
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| 16:50.04 | MohammadAG_ | http://i42.tinypic.com/muesxv.jpg |
| 16:50.10 | kokosz | when i installed xchat on my n900 the default colors are different from your screenshot |
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| 16:50.27 | MohammadAG_ | from mine? |
| 16:50.32 | MohammadAG_ | I set it to randomly coloured |
| 16:50.39 | MohammadAG_ | (for nicknames) |
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| 16:50.47 | SpeedEvil | http://www.mauve.plus.com/xchatconf.tar.gz |
| 16:50.49 | Dima_Sharihin | It's a xchat feature |
| 16:50.52 | SpeedEvil | for what it's worth |
| 16:51.03 | MohammadAG_ | SpeedEvil, sure your ns id isn't there? |
| 16:51.15 | SpeedEvil | drop those in your ~.xchat2 |
| 16:51.17 | SpeedEvil | MohammadAG? |
| 16:51.28 | MohammadAG_ | Nickserv password |
| 16:51.29 | Dima_Sharihin | /Nickserv identify <password!> |
| 16:53.04 | kokosz | SpeedEvil: how did you get the colors to be like that? |
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| 16:54.14 | MohammadAG_ | SpeedEvil, /query |
| 16:54.32 | SpeedEvil | yes |
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| 16:55.43 | Dima_Sharihin | Is software interface N900 harder desktop clones? |
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| 16:57.00 | Dima_Sharihin | /s/harder/harder than desktop clones of these apps |
| 16:57.14 | kokosz | trying |
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| 17:00.17 | SpeedEvil | kokosz: See the above posted file - which is now there again - after I changed my password. :/ |
| 17:00.17 | Shapeshifter | well, listening to a song on youtube while multitasking aint such a great experience |
| 17:01.31 | SpeedEvil | Do remember to edit the 'n900evil' to something else. |
| 17:01.41 | Dima_Sharihin | =) |
| 17:02.03 | MohammadAG_ | or just ignore the whole serverlist file |
| 17:04.33 | ZogG | kokosz http://yfrog.com/jc85op from n900 |
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| 17:08.17 | th3hate_ | how do you see black font on black background? |
| 17:08.44 | Dima_Sharihin | th3hate_, font is grey =) |
| 17:08.52 | th3hate_ | Still hard to see |
| 17:09.38 | kokosz | yes still hard to see |
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| 17:10.06 | tamas | ~pr1.2 |
| 17:10.07 | infobot | methinks pr1.2 is not here yet. Stop asking. Read the topic Just stop asking. Read the topic. AND STOP ASKING. If you ask then release moves by another week, so do not ask. |
| 17:10.35 | Tuukka | Hey! Just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and i'd need some help in installing some drivers. |
| 17:10.49 | tamas | ~pr1.3 |
| 17:10.54 | tamas | aaaaw! |
| 17:11.06 | th3hate_ | ~pr1.1.1 |
| 17:11.17 | tamas | ~pr1.4 |
| 17:11.18 | Dima_Sharihin | Tuukka, drivers for what? |
| 17:11.23 | achipa | ~slap tamas |
| 17:11.24 | infobot | ACTION slaps tamas, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 17:11.34 | tamas | ~vissza |
| 17:11.57 | Tuukka | Dima_sharihin for wlan adapter |
| 17:12.03 | timeless | trizt? ping |
| 17:12.09 | Dima_Sharihin | Tuukka, Atheros wlan, or broadcom? |
| 17:13.11 | Tuukka | Dima_sharihin allready downoloaded the right ones, but i need to run some scripts which i have no idea of |
| 17:13.23 | th3hate_ | Q&A About PR1.2 release date: http://maemocentral.com/2010/05/06/here-is-why-the-pr-1-2-firmware-for-the-n900-is-late/ |
| 17:13.41 | Dima_Sharihin | huh. Aren't you use NetworkManager??? |
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| 17:13.47 | timeless | infobot, ~pr1.1.1 is <reply> you are here. please wait |
| 17:13.48 | infobot | timeless: okay |
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| 17:14.05 | timeless | ~pr1.1.1 |
| 17:14.19 | timeless | infobot, pr1.1.1 is <reply> you are here. please wait |
| 17:14.20 | infobot | timeless: okay |
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| 17:14.23 | timeless | ~pr1.1.1 |
| 17:14.24 | infobot | you are here. please wait |
| 17:14.36 | timeless | infobot, forget ~pr1.1.1 |
| 17:14.36 | infobot | i forgot ~pr1.1.1, timeless |
| 17:15.18 | th3hate_ | infobot, remember ~pr1.1.1 |
| 17:15.19 | infobot | How can i forget about ~pr1.1.1 ? That person is the greatest <fill in whatever is appropriate> in the whole wide world ! |
| 17:15.33 | timeless | infobot, pr1.1 is <reply> that's old, please update to 1.1.1 |
| 17:15.34 | infobot | ...but pr1.1 is already something else... |
| 17:15.34 | GAN900 | Love dneary's thread |
| 17:15.44 | timeless | ~pr1.1 |
| 17:15.45 | infobot | hmm... pr1.1 is http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.1 |
| 17:15.58 | GAN900 | "Anything that has MeeGo in it is evil and I say you can't work on it!" |
| 17:16.15 | FredrIQ | ~pr. |
| 17:16.18 | FredrIQ | eh |
| 17:16.22 | FredrIQ | ~pr1.2 |
| 17:16.23 | infobot | rumour has it, pr1.2 is not here yet. Stop asking. Read the topic Just stop asking. Read the topic. AND STOP ASKING. If you ask then release moves by another week, so do not ask. |
| 17:16.30 | FredrIQ | Aw |
| 17:17.00 | Stskeeps | GAN900: mm :P |
| 17:17.06 | timeless | infobot, pr1.1.1 is also http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.1.1 |
| 17:17.07 | infobot | timeless: okay |
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| 17:17.26 | GAN900 | Stskeeps, I really need to catch up |
| 17:17.48 | timeless | gan900: yum |
| 17:17.49 | GAN900 | Apparently everybody decided to start making noise the day I went back to work. |
| 17:18.10 | th3hate_ | infobot, kick timless |
| 17:18.11 | infobot | ACTION kicks timless |
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| 17:18.19 | Stskeeps | GAN900: well, at least council is a bit more active |
| 17:18.26 | FredrIQ | infobot, can i get a kick? |
| 17:18.33 | FredrIQ | meh |
| 17:18.33 | GAN900 | Stskeeps, hey! |
| 17:18.38 | Stskeeps | GAN900: be sure to thank/beat andre in his thread btw |
| 17:18.53 | GAN900 | Stskeeps, yeah, been on my list. |
| 17:18.55 | timeless | fredrIQ: someone would have to spell your nick correctly |
| 17:19.14 | FredrIQ | hmm |
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| 17:19.29 | FredrIQ | infobot, i'm FredrIQ, may you kick him? |
| 17:19.37 | FredrIQ | aw |
| 17:19.41 | Dima_Sharihin | =] |
| 17:19.47 | kokosz | unreal |
| 17:19.52 | th3hate_ | infobot, kick FredrlQ |
| 17:19.53 | infobot | ACTION kicks FredrlQ |
| 17:20.01 | FredrIQ | yay |
| 17:20.03 | th3hate_ | infobot, thanks |
| 17:20.03 | infobot | gern geschehen, th3hate_ |
| 17:20.09 | GAN900 | Stskeeps, yeah, been on my list. |
| 17:20.09 | GAN900 | Ah, damn |
| 17:20.10 | Dima_Sharihin | infobot, kick me |
| 17:20.11 | infobot | ACTION kicks dima_sharihin |
| 17:20.16 | Dima_Sharihin | lol |
| 17:20.16 | GAN900 | andre__, dun wanna half-ass it, though. :) |
| 17:20.28 | GAN900 | Up arrow is too close to the enter key |
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| 17:21.33 | kokosz | testing |
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| 17:23.28 | kokosz | nice |
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| 17:24.15 | andre__ | yay, GAN900 is in? finally some real criticism :) |
| 17:24.58 | crashanddie | GAN900: sudo find me a job |
| 17:25.01 | GAN900 | andre__, well, I wanted to avoid a "You're great!" post and give you something more useful. |
| 17:25.05 | Chrome | qole said n900 won't get flash 10.1? |
| 17:25.12 | GAN900 | crashanddie, garbage man! |
| 17:25.23 | Stskeeps | qole isn't an authorative source |
| 17:25.29 | GAN900 | lol |
| 17:25.30 | andre__ | GAN900, that's bad for my ego, but good for my will to explain things :-P |
| 17:25.33 | crashanddie | GAN900: sudo find-me-a-job.sh -type NOT_CRAP |
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| 17:25.34 | GAN900 | Stskeeps, lies! |
| 17:25.46 | kokosz | lies? |
| 17:26.23 | GAN900 | crashanddie, error: unknown option "-type" |
| 17:26.36 | crashanddie | GAN900: sudo find-me-a-job.sh -h |
| 17:26.51 | GAN900 | crashanddie, back in Europe? |
| 17:26.54 | crashanddie | aye |
| 17:27.12 | GAN900 | crashanddie, good to be back? |
| 17:27.20 | crashanddie | very |
| 17:27.47 | GAN900 | Why not go apply at Nokia or one of their contractors? |
| 17:28.44 | Stskeeps | are you sure they'd dare to let him on as anything than a security guard after reading #maemo logs? ;p |
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| 17:32.23 | kokosz | hi |
| 17:32.54 | kokosz | yes |
| 17:34.14 | kokosz | i see |
| 17:35.22 | kokosz | time to go |
| 17:35.48 | kokosz | testing |
| 17:36.24 | lcuk | kokosz, what are you testing? |
| 17:36.59 | kokosz | different colors in xchat on my n900 to make it more readable |
| 17:37.11 | crashanddie | GAN900: thought about it, just don't know where to get it tbh |
| 17:37.16 | crashanddie | Stskeeps: well, that'd'work |
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| 17:37.26 | lcuk | kokosz, change the preferences |
| 17:37.40 | kokosz | lcuk: yes |
| 17:37.46 | crashanddie | GAN900: thing is, I'd like to be in Perpignan for a while, want to be with gf for a bit |
| 17:37.59 | lcuk | click the menu andclick settings and click preferences |
| 17:38.05 | arachnist | kokosz: try dark background and light text |
| 17:38.06 | lcuk | and change fonts and colors etc? |
| 17:38.24 | arachnist | btw, do the "preferences" in xchat still make it die? |
| 17:38.29 | lcuk | no |
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| 17:38.40 | lcuk | i changed the font and the colors myself just a minute ago |
| 17:38.49 | kokosz | arachnisrt: i think i prefer light background and dark text |
| 17:38.51 | lcuk | usernames are no longer darkblue on black |
| 17:38.59 | lcuk | and the font size is greater than 6 |
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| 17:39.53 | kokosz | i also got rid of the marker line |
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| 17:41.36 | RST38h | yawns |
| 17:41.42 | RST38h | lcuk moo |
| 17:41.52 | lcuk | hey RST38h \o |
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| 17:42.00 | lcuk | you changed the font i was squinting! |
| 17:42.42 | RST38h | what font? |
| 17:42.48 | lcuk | in xchat? |
| 17:42.57 | lcuk | or have i had little fingers playing.. |
| 17:43.03 | lcuk | considers the latter actually |
| 17:43.06 | kokosz | is there a specific N900 room on irc? |
| 17:44.18 | RST38h | lcuk: have not been changing anything, using the same mheg-whatever font |
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| 17:45.11 | lcuk | roger - its down to little fingers then |
| 17:45.16 | lcuk | font change is on the front page of preferences |
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| 17:45.32 | timeless | kokosz: most of the time this 'channel' is focussed on the n900 |
| 17:45.52 | kokosz | timeless: yes |
| 17:46.57 | timeless | nokia is replacing maemo w/ meego, and thus it's assumed that the n900 is the last 'maemo' device |
| 17:46.57 | timeless | it's also reasonable to conclude that there's at least an order of magnitude more n900 devices than its predecessors |
| 17:47.27 | timeless | well, maemo is merging into meego, however you want to look at it |
| 17:47.51 | E0x | anybody here ever buy a beagleboard ? |
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| 17:48.05 | timeless | internally, nokians now work for meego devices whereas earlier we were in maemo devices |
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| 17:49.28 | kokosz | will meego run officially on n900? and I'm not talking about 16 year olds trying to make it work. I'm talking official release. |
| 17:50.20 | MohammadAG_ | not sure if that's an insult to 1) old devs 2) 16 year olds 3) no one, it was a question |
| 17:50.20 | Stskeeps | a team from nokia is working on n900 hardware adaptation for meego. |
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| 17:50.58 | GAN900 | crashanddie, mmm, yeah, probably not productive. |
| 17:51.02 | E0x | MohammadAG_: my question ? |
| 17:51.20 | MohammadAG_ | no, kokosz's |
| 17:51.21 | GAN900 | crashanddie, what tech companies are in the area? |
| 17:51.44 | E0x | ah got it |
| 17:51.47 | crashanddie | GAN900: there's Ubisoft about 300km away |
| 17:52.04 | nid0 | bitch of a commute |
| 17:52.24 | crashanddie | GAN900: pretty big city, loads of jobs |
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| 17:52.47 | crashanddie | GAN900: would be perfect if I could work from home most of the time, then go in for meetings or so. Bout 2 hours by train |
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| 17:55.42 | Stskeeps | crashanddie: got a resume/CV somewhere? |
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| 17:56.16 | crashanddie | well, there's my linkedin page, I need to renew my CV |
| 17:56.27 | MohammadAG_ | 2007-2010 talk.maemo.org :P |
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| 17:56.42 | MohammadAG_ | should give you CEO position somewhere |
| 17:57.05 | crashanddie | http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=30401713&trk=tab_pro |
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| 17:59.05 | timeless | kokosz: nokia hasn't formally commented on that issue |
| 17:59.26 | timeless | and anyone affiliated with nokia is careful not to comment on it |
| 17:59.49 | kokosz | timeless: yes |
| 18:00.01 | timeless | in general, nokia has provided service updates for roughly two years |
| 18:00.18 | timeless | sometimes that includes a major update |
| 18:00.35 | timeless | as in the update for the n800 |
| 18:00.57 | timeless | and sometimes it doesn't |
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| 18:01.19 | timeless | either way, your phone should still work |
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| 18:01.54 | timeless | as long as networks support the supported bands or your basestations use the supported bands and encryption sets |
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| 18:03.48 | luke-jr | timeless: the problem is that when Nokia stops providing updates, they refuse to let anyone else continue it |
| 18:03.57 | Stskeeps | community SSU is going on so far |
| 18:03.58 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 18:04.06 | Stskeeps | introduced last week |
| 18:04.20 | nid0 | sigh :( screen dying |
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| 18:06.22 | kokosz | yes |
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| 18:07.53 | Stskeeps | luke-jr: got time to discuss some hypothetical situations in private? |
| 18:07.56 | timeless | luke-jr: i'm not listing all facts, merely those i can easily list as an employee |
| 18:08.23 | timeless | however, i have heard rumors in this channel of community ssu |
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| 18:08.36 | luke-jr | Stskeeps: sure |
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| 18:09.00 | luke-jr | timeless: community lacks the documentation needed to maintain the devices |
| 18:09.27 | kokosz | when you guys respond how do you get the person's nick to appear automatically? |
| 18:09.30 | timeless | shrugs |
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| 18:09.47 | timeless | kokosz: that depends on the client |
| 18:09.47 | valdyn | kokosz: <tab> |
| 18:09.49 | luke-jr | kokosz: tab completion. learn to love it. then complain to Nokia that you have no Tab key. |
| 18:09.55 | timeless | i'm hand typing everything |
| 18:10.08 | kokosz | in xchat on N900 |
| 18:10.16 | timeless | there's a tab in my x-terminal |
| 18:10.29 | luke-jr | timeless: KEY |
| 18:10.35 | frals | kokosz: shift+space |
| 18:11.04 | timeless | luke-jr: it's called a soft key ;-) |
| 18:11.14 | lcuk | :D awww frals you got a linkedin! |
| 18:11.19 | frals | yepp! |
| 18:11.20 | frals | :D |
| 18:11.22 | luke-jr | timeless: most people call it a BUTTON |
| 18:11.24 | kokosz | thanks all |
| 18:11.30 | lcuk | now fill the thing in :p |
| 18:11.55 | timeless | luke-jr: the hardware things are buttons too :-b |
| 18:12.00 | frals | waiting for official mail first, just to be on the safe side ;) |
| 18:12.04 | luke-jr | timeless: but also keys |
| 18:12.11 | lcuk | rog |
| 18:13.52 | BCMM_ | how does one tab-complete in maemo xchat? |
| 18:14.25 | luke-jr | BCMM_: I sell a microUSB tab key |
| 18:14.31 | luke-jr | just plug it in and press it |
| 18:15.43 | frals | BCMM: shift+space |
| 18:15.52 | frals | or maybe its ctrl+space.. hmm |
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| 18:16.46 | luke-jr | (microUSB tab key is vapourware, for the record. :p) |
| 18:17.35 | lcuk | bluetooth one? |
| 18:17.54 | luke-jr | dunno |
| 18:17.57 | Erod | I wouldn't be surprised if someone had designed a gadget like that. |
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| 18:22.20 | N900evil | BCMM_: I setup shift-rightarrow to complete |
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| 18:26.34 | Tuukka | why is ndiswrapper trying to acces a file in /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1,9 although im in /home/blah/blah? |
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| 18:27.22 | Tuukka | I'm using: sudo ndiswrapper -i sis163.inf and i'm in the folder in which sis163.inf is located |
| 18:28.07 | BCMM_ | Tuukka: tried ./sis163.inf? |
| 18:28.53 | Tuukka | BCMM still trying to /usr/sbin/.. |
| 18:31.24 | Tuukka | It's trying to find it inside the ndiswrapper-1.9 line 219, hmmm.... |
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| 18:36.03 | Tuukka | MAN, typoed the file name -.-' fail |
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| 18:36.56 | vuong | anyone knows about a bricked n900? |
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| 18:37.56 | johnsq | Hi |
| 18:38.10 | lcuk | MohammadAG_, rag doll kung fu? |
| 18:38.19 | vuong | i need help. i just bricked my n900 =/ |
| 18:38.19 | MohammadAG_ | PS3 game |
| 18:38.29 | lcuk | i didnt know the ps3 had games |
| 18:38.37 | MohammadAG_ | LOL |
| 18:39.05 | MohammadAG_ | PlayStation: First 50 to @reply us with *correct* answer to the following MW2 trivia Tweet wins a Modern Warfare 2 DLC code. US only. <-- watching this on twitter ;) |
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| 18:41.38 | MohammadAG_ | I'm gonna lose that lol |
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| 19:01.07 | frals | bah, got email and only saw "Invitation" before the notification went off screen, thought id gotten some nice escort service spam... but it was lcuk accepting my linkedin request :( |
| 19:01.14 | MohammadAG_ | lcuk, check what's trending on twitter lol |
| 19:01.26 | MohammadAG_ | 7th one |
| 19:01.42 | frals | lol |
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| 19:03.36 | tybollt | sigh |
| 19:04.14 | Khertan_n900 | Hi ! |
| 19:04.19 | tybollt | look nokia - please release PR1.2 now... hell they even have domestic riots and are on the brink of civil war in Greece because you didn't release it... |
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| 19:05.11 | Khertan_n900 | like the maemo planet news question and answer about pr1.2 ... can be resume in few words : when it s ready |
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| 19:10.06 | lcuk | MohammadAG_, not online what is it |
| 19:10.37 | MohammadAG_ | Scar-H from the PS3 CoD contest |
| 19:10.46 | MohammadAG_ | wonder if I won... |
| 19:11.26 | lcuk | ahh |
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| 19:15.07 | noobmonk3y | waves and apologises for not throwing enough touts at frals this week! |
| 19:15.10 | noobmonk3y | trouts* |
| 19:15.13 | frals | slaps noobmonk3y around a bit with a large trout |
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| 19:15.23 | noobmonk3y | buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusy week |
| 19:15.29 | noobmonk3y | MohammadAG, cool script! |
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| 19:16.07 | MohammadAG_ | noobmonk3y, lcuk helped :) |
| 19:16.23 | noobmonk3y | ahhhh not sure of having it on load though |
| 19:16.31 | noobmonk3y | as the keyboard needs to be open |
| 19:16.41 | noobmonk3y | might just have it as a keyboard led test |
| 19:17.04 | MohammadAG_ | so? |
| 19:17.08 | MohammadAG_ | it will show if it's open/closed |
| 19:17.17 | noobmonk3y | lol true :P will give it a go |
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| 19:21.09 | lcuk | noobmonk3y, its just for playing but uber cool |
| 19:21.17 | lcuk | MohammadAG_, i had a thought about something |
| 19:21.21 | lcuk | will test it and see if it works |
| 19:21.25 | lcuk | if so will update script |
| 19:21.39 | noobmonk3y | lol |
| 19:21.48 | noobmonk3y | is plugging it into H/c as an initial test :D |
| 19:21.58 | noobmonk3y | was working on 1 myself - but yours is cooler! |
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| 19:22.38 | lcuk | is doing something differenter |
| 19:23.04 | frals | plugs a trout in noobmonk3y |
| 19:23.16 | lcuk | wont that hurt? |
| 19:23.28 | noobmonk3y | screams troutyness!!!!! |
| 19:23.35 | frals | depends on where i guess, size of his mouth he wont even notice! |
| 19:23.40 | noobmonk3y | brb 5 mins - reading the missus's sisters uni dissertation |
| 19:23.45 | noobmonk3y | :( |
| 19:23.51 | noobmonk3y | is quite honest guv! |
| 19:23.54 | noobmonk3y | quiet* |
| 19:23.59 | noobmonk3y | really can't type |
| 19:24.35 | Dima_Sharihin | noobmonk3y, speak or sing what you can't type... =) |
| 19:24.44 | noobmonk3y | :P |
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| 19:25.51 | Dima_Sharihin | hates typing "unsigned long long.... unsigned long long... unsigned long long". Damn C standart =) |
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| 19:28.54 | lcuk | Dima_Sharihin, UINT64 etc are clearer to understand |
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| 19:29.15 | Dima_Sharihin | lcuk, yes, that's right |
| 19:29.24 | noobmonk3y | has just realised, tjhat is a script - not python |
| 19:29.26 | noobmonk3y | meh |
| 19:29.56 | lcuk | noobmonk3y, lol |
| 19:30.00 | RST38h | Dima)Sharihin: ever heard of typedef? |
| 19:30.06 | noobmonk3y | 's brain struggles! |
| 19:30.26 | Dima_Sharihin | RST38h, no =) |
| 19:30.34 | RST38h | google for it |
| 19:30.43 | Dima_Sharihin | RST38h, oooh! sorry, forgot =] |
| 19:31.13 | lcuk | noobmonk3y, which script are you looking at? |
| 19:31.33 | frals | noobmonk3y: some call python script as well ;) |
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| 19:32.16 | frals | gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 19:32.34 | MohammadAG_ | lcuk, yours, assuming I gave him the right link |
| 19:32.37 | frals | needs Reggie to find a vBullentin plugin to *FORCE* users to read the first post before pressing reply |
| 19:32.45 | MohammadAG_ | checks |
| 19:32.48 | lcuk | lol |
| 19:32.51 | frals | facepalms and goes for more ice cream |
| 19:32.52 | MohammadAG_ | nope, it's not a rick roll |
| 19:33.06 | MohammadAG_ | frals, there is one :P |
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| 19:34.12 | noobmonk3y | lol looking at erm, a non python led one |
| 19:34.21 | frals | link me up! |
| 19:34.30 | noobmonk3y | *trout palms* frals |
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| 19:38.59 | noobmonk3y | blinks |
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| 19:39.21 | MohammadAG_ | hits noobmonk3y |
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| 19:39.36 | noobmonk3y | cries like a girly - ie frals |
| 19:39.51 | frals | oi u wnkr! |
| 19:39.59 | tybollt | hrrrm |
| 19:40.16 | MohammadAG_ | LOL |
| 19:40.29 | Dima_Sharihin | silently watching on the channel |
| 19:40.54 | tybollt | getting the missus a new phone |
| 19:41.07 | MohammadAG_ | silently\ watching\ on\ the\ channel="lurking" |
| 19:41.10 | tybollt | pondering the x10 mini pro |
| 19:41.21 | MohammadAG_ | N900 FTW!1111!!!! |
| 19:41.23 | MohammadAG_ | :P |
| 19:41.33 | tybollt | any word if there wil be a Maemo "mini"? |
| 19:41.55 | tybollt | as in ... "hand bag friendly" format? |
| 19:42.49 | Dima_Sharihin | MohammadAG, If I had n900, I wouldn't be here |
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| 19:44.56 | E0x | hmm |
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| 19:45.25 | Dima_Sharihin | ? |
| 19:45.27 | E0x | my n900 almost in 98% of the time choose edge over 3g |
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| 19:45.53 | Dima_Sharihin | E0x, EDGE uses less power, isn't it? |
| 19:46.23 | E0x | i think yes |
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| 19:47.02 | E0x | if i manual force use 3g and back put in in dual mode and 3g signal don't get lost stay in 3g all the time |
| 19:47.11 | Dima_Sharihin | And n900 have small battery life =) |
| 19:47.16 | noobmonk3y | why when running an sh file with | root after it am i getting permission denied? |
| 19:47.25 | E0x | but when it lose 3g signal and go back to 2.5g it never come back to 3g |
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| 19:47.38 | Dima_Sharihin | noobmonk3y, you typing sudo, or su...? |
| 19:47.48 | E0x | | is not a command |
| 19:48.00 | SpeedEvil | tybollt: I'm not sure it would be anywhere near as good without a hwkeyb |
| 19:48.00 | E0x | what is the entery line that are you trying ? |
| 19:48.04 | SpeedEvil | tybollt: that may be me |
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| 19:48.42 | E0x | small battery life ? |
| 19:48.51 | E0x | i think is averague |
| 19:48.57 | E0x | average* |
| 19:49.01 | Dima_Sharihin | E0x, 1 day is very small =] |
| 19:49.14 | Dima_Sharihin | N900 is a PHONE!!! |
| 19:49.22 | jacekowski | it's a tablet |
| 19:49.29 | E0x | with phone |
| 19:49.38 | daniel_sz | its a phone tablet =] |
| 19:49.43 | jacekowski | limited phone functionality |
| 19:49.45 | E0x | fun table ? |
| 19:49.56 | E0x | "limited" ? |
| 19:50.09 | E0x | that more do phone that do calls ? |
| 19:50.12 | tybollt | SpeedEvil: eh? |
| 19:50.30 | tybollt | SpeedEvil: LMGTFY |
| 19:50.47 | Dima_Sharihin | E0x, send SMS, MMS, USSD-calls, Video-calls |
| 19:50.51 | tybollt | SpeedEvil: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/02/500x_x10-mini-pro.jpg&imgrefurl=http://gizmodo.com/5471484/sony-ericsson-x10-mini-and-x10-mini-pro-are-even-less-attractive-than-the-original-x10&usg=__FyxdNrV1SEsWtfJ6mzTUzhXkKKE=&h=434&w=500&sz=126&hl=en&start=2&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=bcfdoqtc52z9VM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dx10%2Bmini%2Bpro%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26saf |
| 19:50.57 | SpeedEvil | tybollt: I'm unsure I could live with a smaller n900 |
| 19:50.57 | tybollt | oi long url :S |
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| 19:51.10 | Dima_Sharihin | tybollt, very short url X] |
| 19:51.11 | E0x | sms is so 1999 |
| 19:51.19 | tybollt | SpeedEvil: Dima_Sharihin :-| |
| 19:51.26 | E0x | video-calls is not a phone feature |
| 19:51.39 | tybollt | ehr s/SpeedEvil// |
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| 19:52.04 | Dima_Sharihin | E0x, of course. But I want to do Video-calls using Skype on N900 :) |
| 19:52.15 | E0x | so that is a table |
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| 19:52.18 | E0x | feature |
| 19:52.30 | E0x | table/computer feature |
| 19:52.30 | tybollt | SpeedEvil: The mini pro _does_ have a keyboard - hence my question. I am also likely not accepting a smaller N900 - however - again - this is for missus. |
| 19:52.31 | joga | tables are for putting things on them |
| 19:52.36 | Dima_Sharihin | No, that is a Desktop-laptop-pda feature |
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| 19:52.52 | SpeedEvil | tybollt: ah - sorry - I diddn't read scroll |
| 19:52.52 | MohammadAG_ | <Dima_Sharihin> E0x, of course. But I want to do Video-calls using Skype on N900 :) - PR1.2, Qole confirmed it |
| 19:53.26 | Dima_Sharihin | MohammadAG, I didn't see any of PRs =) |
| 19:53.26 | daniel_sz | hi, anyone know any app for 3g data control? |
| 19:53.48 | MohammadAG_ | look at the topic |
| 19:53.51 | E0x | i use have a few reason for video-calls |
| 19:54.00 | tybollt | SpeedEvil: np. I'm shopping for something more ... "handbag sized" for missus, yet still something she can tinker w/ a lot (she steals mine to tinker w/ :-| ) |
| 19:54.14 | E0x | bah , nevermind |
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| 19:56.38 | SpeedEvil | suggests a larger handbag. |
| 19:56.48 | SpeedEvil | I suspect that may not work though. |
| 20:04.12 | tybollt | SpeedEvil: suggesting that may render me a handbag ina head... I prefer not... ;) |
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| 20:11.28 | DrGrov | Good evening |
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| 20:12.54 | DrGrov | PR 1.2 ??= |
| 20:12.57 | DrGrov | It is out? |
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| 20:13.08 | frals | ~pr1.2 |
| 20:13.09 | infobot | from memory, pr1.2 is not here yet. Stop asking. Read the topic Just stop asking. Read the topic. AND STOP ASKING. If you ask then release moves by another week, so do not ask. |
| 20:13.20 | frals | and evening to you too :) |
| 20:13.34 | MohammadAG_ | so wants to set that kick regex |
| 20:15.03 | jacekowski | pr 1.2 has leaked |
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| 20:15.12 | jacekowski | but it's month old build |
| 20:15.16 | jacekowski | that has some issues |
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| 20:15.21 | DrGrov | I will be fucked |
| 20:15.35 | DrGrov | God damn Nokia! |
| 20:15.41 | frals | jacekowski: its a leaked build, what evidence do you have its pr1.2? :p |
| 20:15.44 | MohammadAG_ | flashing it isn't supported, giving links out isn't allowed |
| 20:15.49 | E0x | i dont belive in god |
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| 20:16.05 | DrGrov | Actually, more serious issues though. My boss is asking on how to obtain a license for DocsToGo so he can use Word/Powerpoint/Excel documents while working. |
| 20:16.07 | jacekowski | frals: it has lot of features that 1.2 was supposed to have |
| 20:16.15 | MohammadAG_ | slaps noobmonk3y around with a trout |
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| 20:16.17 | jacekowski | frals: ir's more like 1.95 |
| 20:16.19 | MohammadAG_ | waits for frals to thank him |
| 20:16.25 | jacekowski | frals: 1.1.95 |
| 20:16.36 | frals | trouts noobmonk3y and MohammadAG_ |
| 20:16.49 | noobmonk3y | prods frals with a trout shaped lcuk |
| 20:16.52 | tybollt | salmons frals |
| 20:17.13 | DrGrov | Seriously hey, my boss has been asking me shitload of times about this and I couldn't tell him squat |
| 20:17.19 | noobmonk3y | frals a trout with a salmon smelling tuna looking lcuk |
| 20:17.25 | frals | watches as lcuk gets eaten by his cat |
| 20:17.31 | noobmonk3y | giggles |
| 20:17.37 | MohammadAG_ | trouts the cat |
| 20:17.43 | DrGrov | For fucks sake guys! |
| 20:17.46 | Jaffa | DrGrov: Yes. Nokia are purposefully witholding it to screw with you and your boss |
| 20:17.51 | E0x | Dima_Sharihin: google it |
| 20:17.56 | noobmonk3y | looks at DrGrov |
| 20:18.00 | DrGrov | Jaffa: those damn idiots |
| 20:18.07 | MohammadAG_ | laughs at Jaffa's startement |
| 20:18.08 | E0x | DrGrov: google it |
| 20:18.11 | MohammadAG_ | -r |
| 20:18.17 | DrGrov | E0x: ah yes, google... |
| 20:18.26 | frals | quick, someone get the tar and feathers! |
| 20:18.27 | DrGrov | E0x: you don't think i've fucking googled it? |
| 20:18.34 | DrGrov | E0x: lol |
| 20:18.36 | SpeedEvil | tybollt: It's OK. They're so small, they can't hurt. |
| 20:18.48 | E0x | i already do a search |
| 20:18.49 | MohammadAG_ | gets the tar and feathers |
| 20:18.51 | E0x | i am find it |
| 20:18.57 | MohammadAG_ | good for you |
| 20:19.00 | DrGrov | You do need to excuse me |
| 20:19.08 | SpeedEvil | tar -F |
| 20:19.10 | DrGrov | I have a withdrawal from swedish snus atm... |
| 20:19.15 | MohammadAG_ | If I were Nokia I'd sue rapidshare |
| 20:19.17 | frals | throws some tar at lcuk and noobmonk3y |
| 20:19.18 | MohammadAG_ | (for the lulz) |
| 20:19.36 | MohammadAG_ | dumps the feathers and takes pictures |
| 20:19.49 | noobmonk3y | DrGrov, http://www.dataviz.com/products/documentstogo/maemo/faqs.html |
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| 20:20.10 | lcuk | i have been voting and taking pictures of lamps and you bleeders decide to throw trout at me |
| 20:20.12 | lcuk | thanks |
| 20:20.19 | DrGrov | noobmonk3y: ah thank you. my withdrawing from using snus is killing my intellect. :D lol |
| 20:20.29 | noobmonk3y | DrGrov, http://www.dataviz.com/products/documentstogo/maemo/index.html - to be more precise |
| 20:20.34 | noobmonk3y | lol np :P |
| 20:20.56 | frals | lcuk: thats what you get when it takes you this long! |
| 20:21.04 | DrGrov | noobmonk3y: or should i say i am trying to cut down usage of it... |
| 20:21.08 | noobmonk3y | lol! |
| 20:21.10 | DrGrov | noobmonk3y: not working though so well |
| 20:21.12 | lcuk | twitter has picture of the lamp |
| 20:21.23 | noobmonk3y | i havnt had snus since i last went to sweden - 5 years ago |
| 20:21.31 | noobmonk3y | brought loads back, but ran out fast :P |
| 20:21.33 | frals | lol lcuk |
| 20:21.40 | tybollt | SpeedEvil: http://www.fishex.com/seafood/salmon/big-king-pic2.jpg |
| 20:21.41 | MohammadAG_ | lcuk, genie lamp? |
| 20:21.44 | DrGrov | noobmonk3y: you like snus then? |
| 20:21.48 | lcuk | noobmonk3y, you havent had snusnu? |
| 20:21.48 | tybollt | 'small' |
| 20:21.57 | noobmonk3y | apart from the initial burning my mouth apart yeah |
| 20:22.10 | frals | ah god snus is awful |
| 20:22.14 | DrGrov | noobmonk3y: i'm been using 15 years so withdrawing is a bit fucked up |
| 20:22.14 | noobmonk3y | lol frals |
| 20:22.24 | noobmonk3y | ahhhh have smoked 15 years so know the feeling |
| 20:22.32 | frals | otoh smoking is even worse so :D |
| 20:22.46 | DrGrov | noobmonk3y: to stop using snus is even harder than to stop smoking |
| 20:23.00 | noobmonk3y | lol :P |
| 20:23.43 | lcuk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWn9aDYuarc&NR=1 |
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| 20:30.50 | RST38bis | wazd: here? |
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| 20:33.28 | MohammadAG_ | can't believe a bot who spammed both #maemo and freenode is from opensuse... |
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| 20:33.40 | timeless_mbp | Trizt: i've pushed a newer set |
| 20:33.45 | timeless_mbp | hopefully w/ fewer packaging failures |
| 20:33.47 | Joonas | frals, can I ask you a question about fmms? |
| 20:33.56 | frals | sure |
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| 20:35.06 | BCMM | any advice on watching BBC videos? |
| 20:35.06 | Joonas | I have followed this list http://wiki.maemo.org/MMS#TDC for configuration of fMMS, but I'm getting an error when trying to send a MMS. |
| 20:35.18 | Joonas | Sending failed |
| 20:35.18 | Joonas | Error: 101 Network is unreachable |
| 20:35.18 | Joonas | Please make sure your APN settings are corroect |
| 20:35.35 | Joonas | Any hints, whats wrong? |
| 20:36.59 | BCMM | i have seen several reviews saying that the BBC news channel streams perfectly |
| 20:37.07 | BCMM | but it's pretty jerky, like any flash video |
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| 20:37.35 | BCMM | am i doing something wrong, or did some fail arrive in an update? |
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| 20:38.09 | frals | Joonas: probably some setting or another is wrong - if you email me the log to fmms@frals.se i can take a closer look |
| 20:38.44 | Joonas | where can i find the log? |
| 20:39.01 | frals | /tmp/fmms.log |
| 20:39.15 | korhojoa | DrGrov: bara grov? |
| 20:39.45 | BCMM | ah, http://mynokiablog.com/2010/04/02/how-to-getting-your-n900-to-play-smooth-videos-on-bbc-iplayer-despite-the-bbc-update-that-stopped-the-old-solution/ this got iplayer working for me, but not the news channel |
| 20:39.51 | BCMM | unless that is available somewhere on iplayer |
| 20:43.08 | Joonas | yes, just a sec |
| 20:44.05 | DrGrov | korhojoa: bara grov? |
| 20:48.08 | alterego | ... "If everything goes well, the release after PR 1.2 will ship with Qt 4.7.x" .. Interesting, so we can hopefully expect a PR1.3? Or are they talking about Harmatten, as the released dates for Qt4.7 and Maemo 6 are pretty damn close .. |
| 20:48.45 | lcuk | alterego, wheres that quote from |
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| 20:50.07 | alterego | labs.trolltech.com/blogs/ |
| 20:50.17 | alterego | specifically: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2010/05/06/new-experimental-qt-47-packages-for-the-n900/ |
| 20:50.20 | alterego | that post :) |
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| 20:50.55 | tamas_ | ~pr1.2 |
| 20:50.56 | infobot | i guess pr1.2 is not here yet. Stop asking. Read the topic Just stop asking. Read the topic. AND STOP ASKING. If you ask then release moves by another week, so do not ask. |
| 20:51.36 | alterego | tamas_: who's asking? |
| 20:51.39 | lcuk | tamas_, shush for once, this was a genuine question with real considerations :) |
| 20:52.05 | tamas_ | didn't ask anything, just typed some random characters... :$ |
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| 20:52.39 | alterego | Heh |
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| 20:53.01 | alterego | Well, wasn't really a question, more of a discussion opener :) |
| 20:53.04 | lcuk | alterego read the qt 4.7 statement how you like, did you see eeros posting about pr1.2? |
| 20:53.28 | alterego | lcuk: sorry? I don't get you |
| 20:53.53 | alterego | eeros? |
| 20:54.10 | kokosz | Peeps this is why 1.2 is delayed: http://maemocentral.com/2010/05/06/here-is-why-the-pr-1-2-firmware-for-the-n900-is-late/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MaemoCentral+%28Maemo+Central%29 |
| 20:54.32 | alterego | That link is far too long for what it's addressing. |
| 20:54.32 | lcuk | http://twitter.com/mwkn/status/13496469558 |
| 20:54.45 | tamas_ | I know why, mr council member kept me updated |
| 20:54.46 | alterego | And yes, I'm sure anyone that cares picked that up from planet maemo :P |
| 20:55.10 | lcuk | tamas_, ? |
| 20:55.26 | tamas_ | I know a council member |
| 20:55.33 | tamas_ | in person :P |
| 20:55.36 | lcuk | and ? |
| 20:55.40 | tamas_ | nothing |
| 20:55.45 | tamas_ | never mind |
| 20:56.36 | kokosz | http://maemocentral.m/2010/05/06/here-is-why-the-pr-1-2-firmware-for-then-n900-is-late/ |
| 20:57.03 | SpeedEvil | .m? |
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| 20:57.05 | SpeedEvil | Mars? |
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| 20:58.25 | BCMM | 'm' for 'mangled' |
| 20:58.37 | GAN900 | knows a council person in person too. |
| 20:58.38 | BCMM | hmm |
| 20:58.55 | BCMM | past bbc news channel shows on iplayer are fine, live is jerky |
| 20:59.09 | Joonas | frals: Btw, i noticed some other thing with fMMS, when I installed it. fMMS made a new connection, but when I edited the connection in the fMMS (Apn), it used my 3G connection instead... |
| 20:59.33 | BCMM | sounds is fine; but sync drifing horribly |
| 21:00.07 | kokosz | who needs MMS ? email your pix instead |
| 21:00.32 | lcuk | kokosz, majority of population of existing phone users dont have email on phones/configured |
| 21:00.35 | javispedro | thinks that, in typical rushed software development fashion, one would just introduce a daemon that periodically kills browserd instead of fixing its memory leaks ;P |
| 21:01.05 | Stskeeps | i thought that was what flash plugin did |
| 21:01.21 | javispedro | yes, well. |
| 21:01.28 | javispedro | if adobe decided to drop that useful feature... |
| 21:01.55 | javispedro | just hope that the adobe-periodic-crash-simulator-daemon is released under an OSS license. |
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| 21:02.05 | DocScrutinizer | ugggh |
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| 21:08.26 | kokosz | read it and weep peeps: http://maemocentral.m/2010/05/06/here-is-why-the-pr-1-2-firmware-for-then-n900-is-late/ |
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| 21:08.57 | lcuk | Firefox can't find the server at www.maemocentral.m. |
| 21:08.59 | lcuk | weeps |
| 21:09.21 | kokosz | ouch |
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| 21:09.54 | kokosz | http://maemocentral.com/2010/05/06/here-is-why-the-pr-1-2-firmware-for-the-n900-is-late/ |
| 21:10.16 | javispedro | or read the original eero post in the mailing lists. |
| 21:10.32 | lcuk | i did earlier |
| 21:10.47 | lcuk | or i could just read the commits on gitorious of course |
| 21:11.06 | javispedro | poor eero, now his opinions are going to be understood as official Nokia PR stuff as soon as this gets on the interwebs |
| 21:11.14 | kokosz | gitorious? |
| 21:11.23 | lcuk | open source remember |
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| 21:11.35 | javispedro | lcuk: save for the sgx :) |
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| 21:11.52 | Trewas | sheesh, now they want to release PR1.2 without regressions, why the hell they then broke streaming avi's in PR1.1 and "fixed" it in january, yet refuse to ship that as an update :P |
| 21:12.08 | Chiku | A. Releases are not based on calendar, but on them being ready, based on testing results. (Hm. Is Maemo showing its Debian roots?) <-- debian got calendar since last year |
| 21:12.26 | Chiku | with 2 years release cycle |
| 21:13.11 | kokosz | i'm praying they fix that damn email bug where the delete button is grayed out |
| 21:13.18 | Trewas | Chiku: no they don't, there was some debate about the release schedule to co-incide with ubuntu but that did not realize |
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| 21:13.58 | javispedro | kokosz: you could know that by a) looking at the bug report b) downloading the updated version of the modest source and building it. |
| 21:14.06 | javispedro | choose one! no need for pr1.2 |
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| 21:15.28 | Chiku | this lien is funny... so HK native PR1.2 is too buggy one |
| 21:15.50 | Chiku | HK buyers bought and buying buggy PR1.2 so ? |
| 21:15.58 | DocScrutinizer | honestly doubts the why-1.2-is-late will bring any good bit to the rotten mood of screaming whining tmo crowd |
| 21:16.00 | kokosz | the chinese 1.2 flying around is buggy? |
| 21:16.40 | BCMM | for anybody trying to watch the UK election: http://www.livestation.com (front page) streams BBC news better than the BCC site for me |
| 21:16.43 | BCMM | (YMMV) |
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| 21:17.07 | kokosz | BCMM: on the N900? |
| 21:17.10 | BCMM | yes |
| 21:17.27 | BCMM | blockier, but full framerate and perfect AV sync |
| 21:17.27 | DocScrutinizer | chinese people are used to use crap XP |
| 21:17.56 | BCMM | oh, it also puts "Livestation" in the corner |
| 21:17.59 | BCMM | but not it big letters |
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| 21:19.05 | BCMM | oh, and you need to mouseover with mouse mode to get the fullscreen button |
| 21:19.12 | BCMM | easiest is to just click the video (pausing it) |
| 21:19.19 | DocScrutinizer | wonders how many HK users are whining about their 1.2 being such a drag compared to the nicely stable 1.1.1 all the rest of the world is allowed to use :-D |
| 21:19.21 | BCMM | (rather than using mouse mode) |
| 21:21.40 | trem | nite all, sweet dreams |
| 21:21.48 | Chiku | any HK users reported it? |
| 21:21.55 | SpeedEvil | hmm |
| 21:21.55 | Chiku | maybe not so buggy |
| 21:22.11 | SpeedEvil | iplayer on the n900 is actually usable. |
| 21:22.45 | Chiku | or nokia want to lose asian market |
| 21:24.16 | Trewas | was the leaked version actually the same that ships with HK n900? |
| 21:24.39 | DocScrutinizer | honestly - Nokia probably found the HK 1.2 being 'good enough' to start rollout at HK, but it's probably not such a leap ahead yet from 1.1.1 to justify a worldwide release. I'm appreciating that reasoning, and probably HK users do as well, and all the "where's my 1.2??!!eleven" fools should too |
| 21:24.56 | Chiku | when hk pr released |
| 21:25.20 | javispedro | are you even sure the HK release has anything to do at all with our releases? |
| 21:25.20 | Joonas | what is HK? |
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| 21:25.34 | Chiku | hong kong |
| 21:25.36 | javispedro | for all we know, their definition of "1.2" might be completely different to our definition of 1.2 |
| 21:25.52 | Chiku | you mean hk 1.2 is 1.1.2 ? :) |
| 21:25.54 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: of course I'm not |
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| 21:26.17 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: ack |
| 21:26.35 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: I pointed at that fact several times |
| 21:26.47 | kokosz | that dude from Nokia ... Arsi Jaki or something is running 1.2....read his blog....you peeps know which one? |
| 21:26.48 | javispedro | but nobody listens... I know that :) |
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| 21:27.20 | javispedro | "dude from Nokia" is head of maemo devices |
| 21:27.51 | DocScrutinizer | and his name is Ari Jaksi afaik |
| 21:28.05 | lcuk | meego devices * |
| 21:28.18 | SpeedEvil | 1.2 may not be the leaked 1.2 |
| 21:28.22 | DocScrutinizer | Arsi sounds rather odd |
| 21:28.54 | MohammadAG_ | was tmo pushed off a cliff? |
| 21:29.05 | Shapeshifter | MohammadAG_: hopefully? |
| 21:29.43 | DocScrutinizer | I guess that leaked crap has NOWHERE written 1.2 on it |
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| 21:30.14 | DocScrutinizer | there's no cliff high enough for tmo |
| 21:31.05 | middleearthradio | greetings. anyone aware of any efforts to attempt to port kwordquiz to the Nokia n900? If not, any up front caveats I should be aware of in attempting to port it over to n900? thanks. |
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| 21:31.32 | kokosz | Arsi...Ari... whomever. .. he has the true 1.2 |
| 21:32.16 | DocScrutinizer | and I have a N980 prototype board - so what? |
| 21:32.30 | MohammadAG_ | <javispedro> "dude from Nokia" is head of maemo (s/maemo/meego) devices |
| 21:32.42 | lbt | kokosz: did he get it from a chinese site though? |
| 21:32.43 | kokosz | lucky him |
| 21:33.23 | kokosz | if that Ari dude is running 1.2 it must be close to releasing no? |
| 21:33.32 | Shapeshifter | ... |
| 21:33.43 | Shapeshifter | kokosz: go drink some warm milk and relax |
| 21:33.46 | DocScrutinizer | really wonders what *** practics kokosz intends to undertake 'his' 1.2 once he gets hands on it |
| 21:33.57 | javispedro | 1.2 will end world hunger! |
| 21:34.02 | javispedro | and cure cancer! |
| 21:34.03 | MohammadAG_ | PR1.2 testing builds might have begun since january.... |
| 21:34.07 | lbt | is it out then? |
| 21:34.14 | Shapeshifter | javispedro: but can it cure cancer in portrait mode? |
| 21:34.14 | MohammadAG_ | *facepalm* |
| 21:34.22 | SpeedEvil1 | kokosz: People were almost certainly running '1.2' release candidates a month or two after 1.1.1 came out |
| 21:34.22 | DocScrutinizer | SIGHS |
| 21:34.26 | MohammadAG_ | Shapeshifter, no, but it runs Crysis |
| 21:34.34 | MohammadAG_ | how about someone sets mode +m here :P |
| 21:34.35 | Shapeshifter | sweet |
| 21:34.46 | javispedro | in fact, people at nokia at this point are running 1.3~git+1.4modest |
| 21:35.16 | GAN900 | javispedro, MeeGo devices. |
| 21:35.25 | GAN900 | javispedro, also, MeeGo operations |
| 21:35.30 | kokosz | do you peeps have the link to that dude's site? Ari or whatwever??? |
| 21:35.33 | GAN900 | We've come full circle! |
| 21:35.38 | javispedro | I've been corrected thrice! what's this meego you're speaking about! |
| 21:35.52 | GAN900 | kokosz, http://jaaksi.blogspot.com |
| 21:35.54 | MohammadAG_ | he's head of MeeGo devices :P |
| 21:36.10 | kokosz | GAN900: thanks |
| 21:36.14 | Trizt | is there a body? |
| 21:36.36 | DocScrutinizer | corpse? |
| 21:37.01 | DocScrutinizer | bah, boozetime |
| 21:37.35 | Trewas | why I think pr1.2 matters is that that maybe some software makers could give a flying fuck about n900 after pr1.2 with qt4.6 is available, now pretty much nobody seems interested in making software to it |
| 21:37.42 | tybollt | hmm looks to be Cameron in a hung parliament after all eh? |
| 21:38.05 | DocScrutinizer | Trewas: orly?? |
| 21:38.05 | Shapeshifter | huh, what's this http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YaAt2fURNNU/S30jNW9SimI/AAAAAAAAALs/riyEWoXWOKQ/s1600/Screenshot-20100214-173750.png |
| 21:38.08 | tybollt | I'll give it a year before we'll see a reelection |
| 21:38.09 | Trizt | thinks he sees new applications almost every day |
| 21:38.17 | Shapeshifter | ah wait, I think I saw that in ovi store once |
| 21:38.20 | Trewas | DocScrutinizer: jalry! |
| 21:38.38 | Shapeshifter | the "i" in the lower left corner gives it away as one of the *-touch apps |
| 21:38.40 | tybollt | Shapeshifter: doubt you're doing 801km/h |
| 21:38.45 | tybollt | REALLY doubt it :) |
| 21:38.47 | Shapeshifter | tybollt: that's from aris blog |
| 21:38.51 | Shapeshifter | in a plane |
| 21:38.58 | tybollt | oh ok :) |
| 21:39.10 | tybollt | plane would make sense of course ;) |
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| 21:40.20 | pancake | im using sdl in n900, but every click i get some invalid MOUSEMOTION events |
| 21:40.28 | javispedro | "invalid"? |
| 21:40.45 | pancake | well. i get like 3 mousemotion events in different positions |
| 21:41.06 | javispedro | that doesn't seem invalid; this is a touch screen we're talking about. |
| 21:41.20 | pancake | but it's a click |
| 21:41.24 | javispedro | not really |
| 21:41.26 | javispedro | think of it |
| 21:41.37 | javispedro | if the sequence were mousedown -> mousemotion to correct position |
| 21:41.43 | lcuk | pancake, log the mousemotion events and press once in the centre of the screen |
| 21:41.44 | pancake | i was testing it with the pen |
| 21:41.48 | lcuk | and pastebin the result |
| 21:41.51 | javispedro | every tap would read as a drag event |
| 21:41.58 | lcuk | just once as close to 400,240 as you can |
| 21:42.02 | pancake | i already did that test, let me ssh again |
| 21:42.13 | lcuk | lets see how "invalid" you mean |
| 21:42.26 | pancake | :) |
| 21:43.01 | lcuk | pancake, it will just hep us understand |
| 21:43.05 | lcuk | help |
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| 21:44.41 | lcuk | javispedro, have you seen what MohammadAG_ did? |
| 21:44.46 | lcuk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3pvdFpA1II |
| 21:45.22 | javispedro | heh |
| 21:45.34 | pancake | yep |
| 21:45.36 | pancake | im using sdl 1.3 |
| 21:45.38 | lcuk | neat little effect |
| 21:46.14 | DocScrutinizer | alas conflicts a little with mce |
| 21:46.23 | lcuk | its fun |
| 21:46.36 | lcuk | afaik doesnt r&d mode do something similar |
| 21:46.42 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 21:46.45 | lcuk | just for a practical purpose |
| 21:47.06 | MohammadAG_ | <DocScrutinizer> alas conflicts a little with mce |
| 21:47.08 | javispedro | yep |
| 21:47.12 | MohammadAG_ | nope, bypassed it :) |
| 21:47.26 | DocScrutinizer | I doubt |
| 21:47.28 | MohammadAG_ | old version killed mce |
| 21:47.37 | MohammadAG_ | now it just kills the engine and restores it later |
| 21:47.53 | DocScrutinizer | probably you can spoil the pattern by pressing arbitrary key, but hey, sow what |
| 21:48.09 | pancake | http://lolcathost.org/b/log |
| 21:48.11 | MohammadAG_ | echo disabled > /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0032/engine3_mode and echo 0 > /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0032/leds\:lp5523\:kb*/brightness to shut off all the LEDs |
| 21:48.13 | pancake | 2 clicks log |
| 21:48.25 | MohammadAG_ | sliding the keyboard while it's running otoh... |
| 21:48.48 | MohammadAG_ | btw for some reason, when running mce the LEDs turn off 1 second after echoing, if mce is off, they stay on |
| 21:48.49 | lcuk | DocScrutinizer, hes gonna have it lighting nearest key |
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| 21:49.06 | lcuk | pancake, where on the screen did you actually click |
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| 21:49.16 | MohammadAG_ | lcuk, when I figure out how to detect keystrokes in python I'll do that ;) |
| 21:49.20 | DocScrutinizer | mce is restoring the engine3 whenever a kbd event or timeout event would cause kbd backlight to come up or go dim |
| 21:49.21 | MohammadAG_ | still googling around |
| 21:49.28 | PhonicUK | hey everyoen |
| 21:49.29 | pancake | in the place where down says |
| 21:49.31 | pancake | (x,y) |
| 21:49.32 | MohammadAG_ | yep |
| 21:49.40 | PhonicUK | hey MohammadAG, hows your little experiment go? |
| 21:49.41 | lcuk | ok, so the initial tap is actually correct |
| 21:49.46 | lcuk | it just wanders immediately? |
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| 21:49.55 | lcuk | you dont make a stroke motion? |
| 21:49.58 | lcuk | manually |
| 21:50.01 | pancake | no |
| 21:50.02 | MohammadAG_ | not bad, although it's not tied to a VU, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3pvdFpA1II |
| 21:50.03 | lcuk | its a tap tap |
| 21:50.07 | pancake | just click |
| 21:50.35 | PhonicUK | awesome |
| 21:50.47 | PhonicUK | that a script or app? |
| 21:50.56 | MohammadAG_ | will add this to the wiki later http://pastebin.com/k0kY0s1x |
| 21:51.07 | MohammadAG_ | script, .sh, lcuk helped, as usual :) |
| 21:51.13 | PhonicUK | and me too ^_^ |
| 21:51.28 | MohammadAG_ | lol, when I tie it to the VU I'll say that :P |
| 21:51.31 | MohammadAG_ | thanks though :P |
| 21:51.31 | PhonicUK | :P |
| 21:51.34 | PhonicUK | yw |
| 21:51.59 | pancake | lcuk: any idea? |
| 21:52.58 | lcuk | pancake, so you first clicked in bottom right of screen |
| 21:53.04 | lcuk | then second click was top left |
| 21:53.13 | lcuk | in the centre of the quadrant basically |
| 21:53.23 | javispedro | the issue here is the big offset between the position reported by mousedown event and position reported by mouseup |
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| 21:53.40 | javispedro | ofc it seems weird sdl1.3 would cause such an offset. |
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| 21:53.54 | pancake | 2nd click is top right |
| 21:54.00 | lcuk | sorry yes |
| 21:54.09 | lcuk | does it do this normally |
| 21:54.17 | lcuk | ie can you use your screen in sketch etc? |
| 21:54.23 | lcuk | JUST TRY IT |
| 21:54.25 | pancake | yes |
| 21:54.30 | lcuk | -CAPS |
| 21:54.52 | lcuk | because if you had an n810 i would say check for grit |
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| 21:54.56 | lcuk | around the bezel |
| 21:55.31 | lcuk | can you draw the points it makes and save framebuffer? |
| 21:56.01 | pancake | ye i can write this |
| 21:56.08 | pancake | will take a while |
| 21:56.14 | pancake | dunno if tehre's any example somewhere |
| 21:56.16 | PhonicUK | has anyone done an edge test on the N900 touchscreen? |
| 21:56.23 | javispedro | are you for any reason using multiple fingers? |
| 21:56.23 | lcuk | yeah phonic |
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| 21:56.37 | PhonicUK | howd it come out? |
| 21:56.56 | lcuk | it works |
| 21:57.26 | PhonicUK | is there a vid somewhere? |
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| 21:59.06 | lcuk | PhonicUK, have you not got yourself a 900 |
| 21:59.10 | PhonicUK | of course :P |
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| 21:59.17 | lcuk | then make a vid :P |
| 21:59.23 | PhonicUK | lol |
| 22:02.01 | PhonicUK | omg warzone2100? |
| 22:02.02 | PhonicUK | no way |
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| 22:03.12 | PhonicUK | anyone know what the package is called? |
| 22:03.14 | PhonicUK | i cant find it |
| 22:04.16 | MohammadAG_ | <PhonicUK> anyone know what the package is called? < ? |
| 22:04.22 | PhonicUK | for Warzone 2100 |
| 22:04.37 | MohammadAG_ | oh |
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| 22:05.03 | PhonicUK | i wanna play it |
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| 22:05.44 | javispedro | arggh |
| 22:06.48 | lcuk | oh fiddlesticks |
| 22:06.56 | lcuk | my desktop icons have vanished on ubuntu |
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| 22:07.07 | lcuk | anyone know what console incantation i need to poke to get em back |
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| 22:07.27 | lcuk | something randomly crashes |
| 22:07.32 | javispedro | nautilus |
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| 22:09.18 | tybollt | that's kinda linux desktop for you |
| 22:09.33 | tybollt | "ooops something randomly crashed taking half the desktop w/ it..." |
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| 22:11.15 | kevloral | hi all |
| 22:12.09 | SpeedEvil | hi |
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| 22:18.16 | MohammadAG_ | <lcuk> my desktop icons have vanished on ubuntu |
| 22:18.20 | MohammadAG_ | nautilus crashed |
| 22:18.42 | MohammadAG_ | or you killed it |
| 22:18.48 | MohammadAG_ | switches to the other nick |
| 22:18.51 | lcuk | w00t yeah :)D |
| 22:18.55 | lcuk | thanks MohammadAG_ |
| 22:19.03 | lcuk | restarted it with nautilus & |
| 22:19.09 | MohammadAG_ | :) |
| 22:19.27 | MohammadAGpingth | meh |
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| 22:26.40 | pancake | yeah |
| 22:26.41 | pancake | fixed :D |
| 22:27.05 | javispedro | pancake: so what was it? |
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| 22:27.10 | pancake | in touchscreens |
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| 22:27.24 | pancake | the mousedown x,y is the one from the previous movement |
| 22:27.36 | pancake | so, you then get the new position |
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| 22:27.49 | javispedro | that might be actually a bug. |
| 22:28.00 | pancake | yes |
| 22:28.12 | pancake | i will add a compile-time option |
| 22:28.22 | javispedro | as I was explaining ideally you should to motion event first THEN the down event. |
| 22:28.27 | pancake | but maybe nice to do it at runtime..but fixing would be great |
| 22:28.31 | javispedro | thus getting updated coordinates by the down event time. |
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| 22:29.21 | GAN900 | Yo, pancake. |
| 22:29.39 | javispedro | ponders something for a moment.. |
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| 22:29.47 | javispedro | uh.. |
| 22:30.08 | javispedro | nothing. |
| 22:30.58 | markinfo | n810 - how to make "right click" ? |
| 22:31.11 | javispedro | no universal way by default |
| 22:31.18 | javispedro | most gtk apps -- long tap |
| 22:32.06 | markinfo | javispedro, hm - at east skype accept that. |
| 22:34.58 | markinfo | how to get Skype in Notification Statusbar? "close" Button want to shutdown skype. Pidgi works properly. |
| 22:35.36 | PhonicUK | I wanna game like Wipeout for Maemo |
| 22:35.51 | PhonicUK | maybe i'll learn how to use Ogre and make one |
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| 22:52.11 | markinfo | OS2008 ... /var/log is completely empty. Where are logs? or must be activated? |
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| 22:56.00 | genewitch | anyone around today that can help me with the n800 RSS feed reader? |
| 22:56.24 | javispedro | markinfo: must be _installed_, as by default no syslog daemon is installed. |
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| 23:00.51 | DocScrutinizer51 | javispedro: which is kinda pitty |
| 23:01.44 | C`I`A | hi |
| 23:01.56 | markinfo | javispedro, what is the package name for syslog daemon? |
| 23:02.23 | javispedro | http://maemo.org/development/tools/doc/diablo/syslog/ |
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| 23:05.57 | genewitch | The rss feed reader on the n800 stopped refreshing 8/9 of my feeds |
| 23:06.06 | genewitch | manual or automatically. |
| 23:10.12 | markinfo | javispedro, there is no package "sysklogd" |
| 23:10.22 | javispedro | markinfo: you need to enable tools repository |
| 23:10.50 | javispedro | http://maemo.org/development/tools/diablo/ |
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| 23:16.02 | jd | <3 |
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| 23:26.35 | javispedro | OTG state: a_idle :P |
| 23:26.45 | javispedro | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.31 | markinfo | javispedro, "Note!: To have these tools visible in the Application manager, you need to have the Red Pill Mode activated. " link goes nowhere. |
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| 23:32.42 | javispedro | markinfo: ignore that and use apt-get |
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| 23:36.16 | N900evil | javispedro: anything more? - dsl died |
| 23:36.37 | javispedro | nope. |
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| 23:43.31 | markinfo | javispedro, sysklog works already. Syslog is full with many messages "EAC mode:play disabled, rec disabled" every 5 seconds. |
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| 23:47.53 | GAN900 | pokes javispedro. |
| 23:48.01 | javispedro | hi |
| 23:50.21 | kthomas_vh | way to reinstall n810 standard web browser (it seems dead)? |
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| 23:55.52 | markinfo | hm - the same Question - what is the standard browser at all? There is no name or version. |
| 23:57.04 | SpeedEvil | suffers context switching problems. |
| 23:57.04 | SpeedEvil | markinfo: this is for n810? |
| 23:57.11 | markinfo | yes |
| 23:57.19 | MohammadAG | microB afaik |
| 23:57.34 | MohammadAG | (not sure about the N8**) |
| 23:57.45 | markinfo | I would like to have some Browser with html5 support. |
| 23:58.45 | javispedro | Status: MHDRC, Mode=Host |
| 23:58.47 | javispedro | inactive :( |
| 23:58.50 | javispedro | bah |
| 23:59.06 | javispedro | I'm not getting any interrupts whenever I plug in a self powered hub |
| 23:59.14 | kthomas_vh | I'd like to have a browser other than FF1, which keeps crashing :) |
