| 00:00.10 | LiraNuna | haha, it tries to look for a maemo bug I take it? |
| 00:00.24 | ssvb | yeah, stupid bot |
| 00:00.38 | LiraNuna | ssvb, see that last part of GIMPLE? |
| 00:00.46 | LiraNuna | ssvb, GCC treats it as V4SF |
| 00:01.05 | LiraNuna | it treats NEON (float32x4_t) the same way |
| 00:01.24 | LiraNuna | so I am inclined to believe that it'll generate the same optimizations available for SSE |
| 00:02.12 | *** join/#maemo Funnyface2 (~user734@76.89-11-145.nextgentel.com) |
| 00:02.50 | ssvb | LiraNuna: yes, thanks for reporting this, I believe it helps to make gcc better in the long run |
| 00:02.53 | *** join/#maemo akeripper (~akeripper@213-21-75-230.bon.t3.se) |
| 00:03.02 | LiraNuna | ssvb, I would LOVE to see this implemented |
| 00:03.09 | LiraNuna | currently I use a template to merge masks |
| 00:03.38 | ssvb | LiraNuna: I also reported this bug: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=43364 |
| 00:03.39 | povbot | Bug 43364: was not found. |
| 00:03.44 | LiraNuna | I can do vec.xxyy.wwww.zwxy and they will all be merged into one shufps |
| 00:04.16 | LiraNuna | oh wow |
| 00:05.11 | LiraNuna | well, you could use vld1 directly |
| 00:05.16 | LiraNuna | there's an intrinsic for that |
| 00:07.15 | LiraNuna | good thing it uses vst1.32 though |
| 00:08.06 | ssvb | LiraNuna: it's just an example, I would like to load that value either from memory, or just put a single floating point value into a vector from a register |
| 00:08.56 | LiraNuna | ssvb, yeah I understand |
| 00:10.52 | LiraNuna | hmm |
| 00:11.00 | LiraNuna | http://bla/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1 |
| 00:11.01 | povbot | Bug 1: test - ignore it |
| 00:11.07 | LiraNuna | http://bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1 |
| 00:11.08 | povbot | Bug 1: test - ignore it |
| 00:11.11 | LiraNuna | http://show_bug.cgi?id=1 |
| 00:11.17 | LiraNuna | aww |
| 00:11.30 | javispedro | python url parser would choke on that one |
| 00:11.38 | MohammadAG | show_bug.cgi?id=1 |
| 00:11.38 | LiraNuna | http:///show_bug.cgi?id=1 |
| 00:11.44 | MohammadAG | buzilla show_bug.cgi?id=1 |
| 00:11.49 | MohammadAG | bugzilla show_bug.cgi?id=1 |
| 00:11.53 | MohammadAG | meh |
| 00:11.55 | LiraNuna | why don't you actually show the title of the page? it should work |
| 00:11.59 | *** join/#maemo geek00l__ (~geek00l@175.144.169.253) |
| 00:12.13 | LiraNuna | http://google.com/ |
| 00:12.23 | MohammadAG | it's not that stupid lol |
| 00:12.25 | LiraNuna | heh |
| 00:12.40 | LiraNuna | http://google.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1 |
| 00:12.41 | povbot | Bug 1: test - ignore it |
| 00:12.42 | LiraNuna | yes it is |
| 00:12.44 | LiraNuna | ^_^ |
| 00:13.03 | ShadowJK | SpeedEvil, sorry misread C3 as 500 |
| 00:14.58 | SpeedEvil | shuns ShadowJK with a coconut. |
| 00:20.39 | DocScrutinizer | bug 1 |
| 00:20.41 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1 test - ignore it |
| 00:21.11 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.170.35) |
| 00:21.44 | DocScrutinizer | http://google.com/bug #1 |
| 00:22.05 | javispedro | /kickall |
| 00:22.05 | DocScrutinizer | http://google.com/bug 1 |
| 00:22.43 | *** mode/#maemo [-o javispedro] by ChanServ |
| 00:22.46 | GeneralAntilles | javispedro, can you try to bug X-Fade about it in the morning? |
| 00:22.56 | javispedro | about it is, about the autobuilder? |
| 00:23.15 | javispedro | or about pr1.2? |
| 00:23.32 | GeneralAntilles | cloaks |
| 00:23.36 | javispedro | ah |
| 00:23.37 | GeneralAntilles | The least important thing of the bunch. |
| 00:23.43 | javispedro | yes, I forgot for a moment |
| 00:23.57 | DocScrutinizer | nah, I'll keep mine |
| 00:24.08 | javispedro | castigates himself for forgetting about the most important thing, cloaks |
| 00:24.28 | javispedro | :) |
| 00:24.52 | javispedro | hey, I still had op? damn. |
| 00:25.07 | MohammadAG | <javispedro> /kickall |
| 00:25.09 | GeneralAntilles | We're going to get DocScrutinizer the "Maemo/community/angryoldman" cloak. |
| 00:25.15 | MohammadAG | tsk tsk tsk, you even got the command wrong :P |
| 00:25.20 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 00:25.31 | MohammadAG | lol |
| 00:25.56 | MohammadAG | how about maemo/community/overclocker cloak :P |
| 00:26.03 | MohammadAG | +the * |
| 00:26.19 | DocScrutinizer | great match for a kickban |
| 00:26.21 | javispedro | no, might act as a easy target |
| 00:26.22 | javispedro | lol |
| 00:30.36 | MohammadAG | window was minimized lol |
| 00:37.15 | GeneralAntilles | javispedro, bug #9407 |
| 00:37.16 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9407 Browser: Do not show fullscreen button when scrolling with the keyboard |
| 00:37.22 | GeneralAntilles | Oops |
| 00:37.26 | GeneralAntilles | javispedro, bug #9896 |
| 00:37.27 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9896 Update IRC cloaks for new council |
| 00:38.26 | javispedro | dutifully votes |
| 00:38.36 | GeneralAntilles | What the hell x-server were we using in Diablo? |
| 00:38.46 | javispedro | xomap, based on kdrive |
| 00:38.52 | GeneralAntilles | Ah, right, thanks. |
| 00:39.01 | GeneralAntilles | shakes his head and hears rusty bolts rattle around. |
| 00:39.31 | javispedro | gets another little haiku courtesy of his favourite skype spammer |
| 00:40.34 | *** join/#maemo lcukn900 (~user@cpc1-oldh7-0-0-cust142.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 00:41.21 | *** join/#maemo geek00l__ (~geek00l@175.144.170.127) |
| 00:42.14 | *** join/#maemo rosch (~quassel@nat/trolltech/x-rpbpvtspbkhynuhj) |
| 00:43.17 | *** join/#maemo wazd (~wazd@188.123.241.73) |
| 00:48.39 | javispedro | lol |
| 00:48.50 | javispedro | people can really for adwords keywords like "citrix doesn't work" and "citrix doesn't print" |
| 00:48.55 | javispedro | *pay for |
| 00:52.17 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.170.181) |
| 00:53.26 | *** join/#maemo ebzzry__ (~Ebzzry@124.217.78.165) |
| 00:54.55 | GeneralAntilles | Need more editors. . . . |
| 00:54.56 | ebzzry__ | Hi! Is there a way for Pidgin to hook into Maemo's notification system, e.g. blinking led on new message |
| 00:55.08 | GeneralAntilles | Telepathy Extras works better in general. |
| 00:57.06 | ebzzry__ | For many reasons, I want to use Pidgin. The built-in messaging system, is unreliable at best. |
| 00:58.59 | MohammadAG | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9897 |
| 00:59.00 | povbot | Bug 9897: Proximity sensor not disabled when using headset in a call |
| 00:59.31 | *** join/#maemo z4chh (~zach@dhcp-128-194-74-49.resnet.tamu.edu) |
| 01:00.12 | *** join/#maemo dandiesel (~562c6b06@gateway/web/freenode/x-ejexmcpwwbphxmna) |
| 01:01.43 | MohammadAG | <GeneralAntilles> Need more editors. . . . |
| 01:01.56 | MohammadAG | editors as in text editors? or bloggers? |
| 01:02.10 | *** join/#maemo venkat (~venkat@59.164.98.58) |
| 01:02.25 | GeneralAntilles | mwkn.net editors |
| 01:02.40 | MohammadAG | oh ok |
| 01:03.10 | dandiesel | i've got a blank screen on my n900 (after flashing) and I'm guessing it's the little ribbon connecting the screen , am i invalidating my warranty if I open the device yes? |
| 01:03.21 | GeneralAntilles | Yes |
| 01:03.28 | GeneralAntilles | Are you sure it's not just busy doing something weird? |
| 01:03.32 | dandiesel | also..if the ribbon is loose.. will this affect the performance of the TV-out? |
| 01:03.37 | GeneralAntilles | Have you popped the battery? |
| 01:03.39 | GeneralAntilles | Shouldn't |
| 01:03.44 | GeneralAntilles | TV-out is on a different lead. |
| 01:03.51 | *** join/#maemo rsalveti (~rsalveti@187.59.117.154) |
| 01:03.54 | dandiesel | no it's been blank for 24 hours now I've tried everything.. thread is here http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=49736 |
| 01:04.10 | dandiesel | TV-out doesn't work either though, black and white lines intermittently and just a black screen |
| 01:04.14 | javispedro | ha |
| 01:04.22 | javispedro | calling DocScrutinizer to the scene |
| 01:04.42 | javispedro | is this something like what happened to yours? |
| 01:04.43 | GeneralAntilles | bangs head on desk at http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=7 |
| 01:05.12 | GeneralAntilles | dandiesel, sounds like an excellent case for a warranty fix. ;) |
| 01:05.20 | GeneralAntilles | dandiesel, I'll let the engineers in the room chime in, though. |
| 01:05.47 | dandiesel | yeah it's certainly looking that way, generalAntilles |
| 01:05.55 | *** join/#maemo adalal (~aritra@cpc4-clif8-2-0-cust778.know.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 01:06.35 | dandiesel | Thanks for the help all, i'll send it off for repair , nite! |
| 01:06.56 | *** join/#maemo flavioribeiro (~flavio@189.17.84.156) |
| 01:08.14 | javispedro | oh, another forum to monitor? |
| 01:08.21 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: (TV-out) well, here I get a black LCD and weird patterns on AV same time |
| 01:08.37 | GeneralAntilles | javispedro, sadly, yes. |
| 01:08.38 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.170.254) |
| 01:08.43 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: heh exactly |
| 01:08.51 | GeneralAntilles | One with broken as hell username capitalization just like maemo.org, too. |
| 01:09.28 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer: so not such an uncommon thing |
| 01:09.48 | DocScrutinizer | and my last suspect - main FPC |
| 01:10.13 | *** join/#maemo zhenhua (~zzhan17@134.134.139.70) |
| 01:10.25 | DocScrutinizer | funny though he said he got black+white stripes, well maybe NTSC vs PAL issue |
| 01:11.16 | lcuk | javispedro, blood red? |
| 01:11.20 | *** join/#maemo geek00l__ (~geek00l@175.144.171.15) |
| 01:11.25 | javispedro | lcuk: something spooky :) |
| 01:11.46 | DocScrutinizer | finally considers disassembling the LCD half as well |
| 01:12.48 | DocScrutinizer | so seems like I'm in peace with my world once again. Not me who caused it, basically. |
| 01:13.15 | DocScrutinizer | polishes his Senior-EE batch |
| 01:13.58 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, and warranty? :P |
| 01:14.29 | DocScrutinizer | warranty been void when I did these pics, no? |
| 01:14.32 | javispedro | I guess they could detect he opened it. |
| 01:15.35 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, what's your plan to fix it, then? |
| 01:15.53 | DocScrutinizer | nah, I'll first go check the maintenance manual on details about replacment of main-FPC |
| 01:16.22 | javispedro | "beyond economical repair"? |
| 01:16.24 | javispedro | ;) |
| 01:16.52 | DocScrutinizer | then I'll either give it to paid repair, or I get proper sparepart and do the fix myself |
| 01:17.25 | *** join/#maemo _Lucretia__ (~munkee@5ac2a2ce.bb.sky.com) |
| 01:18.16 | javispedro | ponders if forums.meego.com will ever convert into a hacker-place or will skip that stage and instead go straight to user forum |
| 01:18.27 | *** join/#maemo Openfree` (~Openfreer@116.228.88.98) |
| 01:18.29 | DocScrutinizer | nah, nix 'beyond economical' - actually replacing main-FPC should be rather affordable and a quite frequent cause of failure |
| 01:18.59 | *** join/#maemo ceolin (~user@201.53.205.241) |
| 01:19.05 | *** join/#maemo tearms (~tearms@cpe-67-252-158-86.buffalo.res.rr.com) |
| 01:19.06 | *** join/#maemo _Lucretia_ (~munkee@pdpc/supporter/active/lucretia) |
| 01:19.21 | DocScrutinizer | err break of FPC the cause, not replacement ;-P |
| 01:20.32 | DocScrutinizer | imagines all sorts of "my creditcard slipped in between" sorts of misshaps |
| 01:20.46 | javispedro | nearly pissed |
| 01:20.54 | javispedro | lol |
| 01:21.43 | DocScrutinizer | has any forum ever been a hacker-place? |
| 01:22.20 | javispedro | well... exaggerating a bit. |
| 01:23.37 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, to a certain extent, yes. |
| 01:23.39 | DocScrutinizer | my bet is it'll go straigt all the way to tmo-madness |
| 01:23.53 | GeneralAntilles | internettablettalk.com was very enthusiast and hacker-oriented in the early days. |
| 01:23.54 | *** join/#maemo sheepbat (~lev3k@c-98-238-227-32.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:24.07 | GeneralAntilles | The N900 really brought the overall level of sanity down, though. ;) |
| 01:24.18 | *** join/#maemo TriztFromWork (~user@62.95.110.130) |
| 01:25.04 | DocScrutinizer | hnn a pity I missed those good ol' times |
| 01:25.15 | MohammadAG | feels the same |
| 01:25.24 | DocScrutinizer | was just too happy with my diablo :-P |
| 01:25.38 | MohammadAG | didn't know Maemo was linux :) |
| 01:25.50 | DocScrutinizer | hahahaha |
| 01:25.56 | GeneralAntilles | I figure you can have success which brings users, and a lot of noise, but also money and productive things |
| 01:26.06 | GeneralAntilles | or you can have your little hacker club but eventually fade away into oblivion. |
| 01:26.12 | GeneralAntilles | probably would prefer the later. |
| 01:26.24 | javispedro | or you can have both |
| 01:26.25 | GeneralAntilles | s/later/latter |
| 01:26.32 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: /join #openmoko-cdevel ;-P |
| 01:26.58 | GeneralAntilles | watches as Nokia drifts farther and farther away from a devices which are actually interesting and useful. |
| 01:27.28 | MohammadAG | I'm actually interested if the N950 (if that's what it's getting called) can run Maemo 5 |
| 01:27.44 | javispedro | ha, as much as I were into running Diablo on the N900? |
| 01:27.49 | *** join/#maemo AndrewFBlack (~andrew@230-100.dothan.cable.graceba.net) |
| 01:28.18 | GeneralAntilles | Capacitive = fail |
| 01:28.24 | MohammadAG | javispedro, well that's technically impossible (at least without major changes) since Diablo was for OMAP2 and the N900 has OMAP3 |
| 01:28.28 | MohammadAG | GeneralAntilles, +1 on that |
| 01:28.40 | MohammadAG | if they kill the keyboard I'm not upgrading |
| 01:28.41 | DocScrutinizer | I know one thing for sure - I am *not* interested in N950 |
| 01:28.45 | MohammadAG | or downgrading in that case |
| 01:28.47 | lcuk | capacitive = different |
| 01:28.51 | javispedro | MohammadAG: if you go on that level, everything will need changes... |
| 01:29.19 | javispedro | as it is, you cannot do a "universal" kernel build. |
| 01:29.32 | MohammadAG | javispedro, build a kernel from scratch then |
| 01:29.33 | MohammadAG | :P |
| 01:29.48 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.171.110) |
| 01:29.55 | javispedro | then you could as well put diablo |
| 01:30.15 | MohammadAG | I'll get diablo running, you build the kernel |
| 01:30.18 | MohammadAG | deal? :P |
| 01:30.22 | GeneralAntilles | lcuk, it's fail for me. |
| 01:30.28 | GeneralAntilles | lcuk, I can't stand it in the slightest. |
| 01:30.31 | javispedro | it's not like most of it requires an exact kernel version (even though I know of a certain component at least that does) |
| 01:30.45 | GeneralAntilles | Whether it works for other people or not is irrelevant to me when I am given no other choices. |
| 01:30.55 | javispedro | "other choices" is a good question |
| 01:31.20 | GeneralAntilles | would love to have a perfect world of To Each His Own here, but Nokia's dead set on preventing that. |
| 01:31.26 | MohammadAG | would be cool if Nokia sold the "N950" as N950c and N950r |
| 01:31.27 | lcuk | isnt that the meego route - since we have a perfectly capable device in the n900 |
| 01:31.33 | GeneralAntilles | "Thanks for helping us get this platform where it is today, now kindly take your money and screw off!" |
| 01:31.36 | MohammadAG | resistive and capacitive options |
| 01:31.49 | GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, indeed. |
| 01:31.54 | GeneralAntilles | It's not like it'd be particularly difficult |
| 01:32.07 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: yep, with and without hw-kbd |
| 01:32.08 | javispedro | in fact we have a few "perfect capable devices", all of the nits |
| 01:32.11 | GeneralAntilles | and it would mean to abandoning a large portion of their market. |
| 01:32.11 | lcuk | build your own hardware set :) |
| 01:32.15 | javispedro | but who wants them now? :) |
| 01:32.18 | lcuk | walk into a store and choose components off the shelf |
| 01:32.19 | javispedro | mwahaha |
| 01:32.33 | ml-mobile | is there something in particular preventing a .33 kernel for the N900 |
| 01:32.34 | DocScrutinizer | and with a 23600mAh battery for the nerds |
| 01:32.39 | DocScrutinizer | as an option |
| 01:32.40 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, I was thinking that too, but both with a hw keyboard would be better than no keyboard |
| 01:32.44 | javispedro | 23600 mAh battery. |
| 01:32.48 | MohammadAG | Virtual keyboards just don't work |
| 01:32.57 | javispedro | I want one of those. |
| 01:33.14 | *** join/#maemo geek00l (~geek00l@175.144.171.120) |
| 01:33.20 | MohammadAG | wants a nuclear battery |
| 01:33.24 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: 2libs, size of 7 N900 |
| 01:33.27 | MohammadAG | no terrorism intended :P |
| 01:33.29 | javispedro | envisions the Nokia Internet Car-Sized Tablet" |
| 01:33.32 | lcuk | i want a flexible oled skin over the top of hw keyboard |
| 01:33.48 | MohammadAG | I want an i7 Maemo device |
| 01:33.52 | lcuk | proper haptics and reconfigurable |
| 01:33.56 | GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, virtual keyboards work fine. |
| 01:34.01 | ml-mobile | lcuk++ |
| 01:34.10 | MohammadAG | GeneralAntilles, not for everything |
| 01:34.10 | GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, I was hitting 40-60 wpm on my 770 and N800. |
| 01:34.18 | javispedro | I want the fountain of eternal youth. The holy grail will also suffice. |
| 01:34.23 | GeneralAntilles | It's just a matter of having a good implementation and a fair amount of practice. |
| 01:34.29 | MohammadAG | GeneralAntilles, not sure about the N800, but the N900's is broken |
| 01:34.33 | lcuk | and i need a holiday too |
| 01:34.34 | GeneralAntilles | javispedro, and make it for under $500, please. |
| 01:34.34 | MohammadAG | try to use it in terminal... |
| 01:34.36 | GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, yes, it is. |
| 01:34.41 | DocScrutinizer | I want a flexible OLED screen of 33', rolled up inside the pensized phone |
| 01:34.44 | GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, it's a huge regression, in fact. |
| 01:34.55 | MohammadAG | well I never had an N800 |
| 01:34.57 | GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, but Nokia doesn't test anything that isn't directly applicable to the latest product. |
| 01:35.00 | javispedro | GeneralAntilles: actually, that's a good point. Price is the current dealbreaker for higher platform expansion. |
| 01:35.07 | MohammadAG | for some reason I thought Maemo was some proprierty OS |
| 01:35.08 | lcuk | GeneralAntilles, you were amazing with your n800 kb |
| 01:35.11 | MohammadAG | corrects typos |
| 01:35.14 | lcuk | for irc i think you were the fastest |
| 01:35.22 | GeneralAntilles | javispedro, Nokia needs to stop pussy-footing around with Linux platforms. |
| 01:35.24 | lcuk | khertan did similar for coding |
| 01:35.33 | lcuk | could never use vkb |
| 01:35.42 | GeneralAntilles | Anssi's Nokia World keynote last year is indicative of the sickness which may bring the company down in the long run. |
| 01:35.49 | MohammadAG | I can reach 30 words per second on the N900 keyboard |
| 01:35.52 | MohammadAG | but it's just broken |
| 01:35.56 | MohammadAG | so I turned it off |
| 01:36.00 | lcuk | javispedro, how did your gsoc application go so far |
| 01:36.28 | javispedro | goes watch it |
| 01:36.41 | GeneralAntilles | javispedro, you're applying as a student? |
| 01:37.14 | lcuk | no GeneralAntilles - he applied for the janiters assistant role |
| 01:37.28 | lcuk | (yes he did |
| 01:37.35 | GeneralAntilles | lcuk, I'd figure he'd be better off as a mentor. ;) |
| 01:37.41 | *** join/#maemo pupnik (~pupnik@unaffiliated/pupnik) |
| 01:38.09 | javispedro | hm.. the application is gone. *calmly things it must be some weirdo temporary issue before yelling in panic* |
| 01:38.45 | GeneralAntilles | VDVsx says, "javispedro? I hate that guy!" |
| 01:39.03 | MohammadAG | lol |
| 01:39.22 | javispedro | GeneralAntilles: i applied as a student since this my last year as one :P (and still never applied...) |
| 01:39.29 | javispedro | before. |
| 01:40.02 | MohammadAG | kov, I'm off, a bit late for me (4:39), so.. ttyl :) |
| 01:40.24 | lcuk | mee to |
| 01:40.29 | lcuk | \o nn maemo |
| 01:40.30 | javispedro | looks at the time. god |
| 01:40.35 | MohammadAG | Night :) |
| 01:40.36 | javispedro | gnite |
| 01:41.21 | GeneralAntilles | Wee, only 11 more stories to go! |
| 01:41.29 | javispedro | has had its own share of doubts about gsoc, i even mailed the program manager... |
| 01:41.30 | DocScrutinizer | best time of the night, o.O |
| 01:41.47 | javispedro | you'll not get rid of me so easily! |
| 01:41.54 | javispedro | where's that op role when you need it |
| 01:43.01 | javispedro | ok ok I'll leave you to your endeavors, good night. |
| 01:44.24 | GeneralAntilles | nite |
| 01:44.27 | GeneralAntilles | erm |
| 01:45.46 | *** join/#maemo Ebzzry (~Ebzzry@124.217.78.165) |
| 01:46.23 | Ebzzry | Hi! Is there a pdf viewer in the repos that supports portait mode viewing? |
| 01:51.23 | DocScrutinizer | try evince |
| 01:52.01 | DocScrutinizer | I can't check right now, but I guess it knows portrait mode aka rotate-left/right |
| 01:52.30 | DocScrutinizer | the UI-widgets won't rotate though |
| 01:52.47 | Ebzzry | DocScrutinizer: Ok |
| 01:53.14 | Ebzzry | DocScrutinizer: Evince is in -devel right? |
| 01:53.31 | DocScrutinizer | not sure, but one of those |
| 01:54.10 | *** join/#maemo panaggio (~panaggio@200-158-190-11.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 01:55.18 | DocScrutinizer | mumbles swearwords about FlatPlasticCables and Board2Board-connectors |
| 01:55.58 | *** join/#maemo b-man17 (~b-man17@cpe-98-31-62-179.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 01:56.55 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@86.121.179.137) |
| 01:58.02 | *** join/#maemo AndrewFBlack (~andrew@230-100.dothan.cable.graceba.net) |
| 01:59.34 | *** join/#maemo pidus (~gandalf@unaffiliated/pidus) |
| 02:02.30 | GeneralAntilles | 4 more. . . . |
| 02:03.32 | *** join/#maemo type_t (~markwire@c-98-228-74-254.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 02:03.57 | b-man17 | GeneralAntilles: hm? |
| 02:04.04 | *** join/#maemo pcfe (~pcfe@a83-245-161-48.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 02:04.04 | *** join/#maemo pcfe (~pcfe@redhat/pcfe) |
| 02:04.08 | GeneralAntilles | http://mwkn.net |
| 02:04.42 | *** join/#maemo Pavel (~pavel@pool-173-75-5-189.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:04.45 | b-man17 | ah |
| 02:05.26 | ds3 | wonder if anyone has looked into adding waypoints to GPSjinni |
| 02:06.52 | *** join/#maemo Firebird (~Firebird@108.18.6.131) |
| 02:07.41 | *** join/#maemo microlith (~no@c-67-164-216-255.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:09.29 | *** join/#maemo tomaterr (~tomaterr@adsl-99-29-240-57.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:13.11 | LiraNuna | ssvb, do you see anything wrong with this code? http://pastie.org/private/uhlbksu4igy79cqzrqjmja |
| 02:13.18 | LiraNuna | optimization wise, not logic |
| 02:14.05 | ptl_demands_PR12 | Ebzzry: evince does |
| 02:14.28 | Ebzzry | ptl_demands_PR12: thanks |
| 02:14.34 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@86.121.179.137) |
| 02:18.48 | b-man17 | does the kexec-tools package in extras-testing actually work?? |
| 02:20.53 | *** join/#maemo bleeter_ (~bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 02:22.49 | *** join/#maemo dmj726_n900 (~user@m620e36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 02:23.52 | dmj726_n900 | is anyone using pidgin to for irc on the n900? |
| 02:23.56 | *** join/#maemo tonikitoo (~tonikitoo@201-75-2-73-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) |
| 02:24.06 | DocScrutinizer | eeeek pidgin |
| 02:24.24 | dmj726_n900 | I'd like to verify some bugs I experience. |
| 02:24.24 | DocScrutinizer | xchat ftw |
| 02:25.36 | DocScrutinizer | reminds me to unvoice all users with full-username 'purple' |
| 02:25.45 | *** join/#maemo AFBN900 (~user@230-100.dothan.cable.graceba.net) |
| 02:25.52 | *** part/#maemo dmj726_n900 (~user@m620e36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 02:26.02 | *** join/#maemo user__ (~user@230-100.dothan.cable.graceba.net) |
| 02:26.07 | *** join/#maemo dmj726_n900 (~user@m620e36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 02:30.18 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.172.97) |
| 02:34.50 | Ebzzry | How do I activate evince's portrait mode, aside of course from using the rotate operations? |
| 02:37.23 | *** join/#maemo fangfufu (~fangfufu@global-2-68.nat.csx.cam.ac.uk) |
| 02:39.52 | LiraNuna | does the N900 use OpenMAX? |
| 02:40.43 | *** join/#maemo felipec (~felipec@189.153.87.7) |
| 02:42.05 | ShadowJK | LiraNuna, I think so.. /lib/dsp/ ? |
| 02:42.15 | LiraNuna | ah awesome |
| 02:42.41 | *** join/#maemo b-man17 (~b-man17@cpe-98-31-62-179.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 02:43.34 | *** join/#maemo danielsilva (~dsilva@76-218-202-164.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:43.53 | dmj726_n900 | so nobody uses pidgin for irc on maemo? |
| 02:44.30 | LiraNuna | eew no, I just ssh to my server and attach my irssi screen |
| 02:44.31 | LiraNuna | <3 |
| 02:44.48 | danielsilva | dmj726_n900: i'm using pidgin right now |
| 02:44.59 | danielsilva | dmj726_n900: oh wait... but on my laptop :p |
| 02:45.08 | Ebzzry | dmj726_n900: maybe if it notifies like telepathy, as I mentioned earlier, I'd use it. |
| 02:45.29 | dmj726_n900 | it seems to work quite well, one bug aside. |
| 02:45.52 | Ebzzry | irssi is a very good irc client, but having scrolling up is a pain. |
| 02:46.00 | Ebzzry | s/having// |
| 02:46.33 | dmj726_n900 | pidgin seems to occassionally open random links in microb when scrolling. |
| 02:46.45 | ShadowJK | heh, amusingly I prefer irssi over xchat for scroling up on n900 |
| 02:46.57 | Ebzzry | I myself use xchat on maemo. |
| 02:47.07 | LiraNuna | xchat on maemo isn't my cup of tea |
| 02:47.14 | LiraNuna | I use xchat on my desktop though |
| 02:47.16 | Ebzzry | ShadowJK: how do you scroll? |
| 02:47.25 | LiraNuna | it's just not hildonized enough for me |
| 02:47.32 | dmj726_n900 | only seems to happen in certain cases though and i wanted to see if anyone could replicate it. |
| 02:47.42 | ShadowJK | I press pageup? |
| 02:47.53 | dmj726_n900 | pidgin has nice kinetic scrolling. |
| 02:48.00 | Ebzzry | LiraNuna: using say irssi, how would you easily switch server contexts? |
| 02:48.07 | ptl_demands_PR12 | I use irssi on my server with irssi-proxy now |
| 02:48.18 | ptl_demands_PR12 | and then I connect to it with whatever I feel appropriate, I am on kvirc right now :) |
| 02:48.20 | ShadowJK | in xchat I have to use scrollbar |
| 02:48.22 | *** join/#maemo fqhuy (~huy@133.64.169.222) |
| 02:48.30 | ptl_demands_PR12 | I've setup my N900 xchat to automatically connect to it |
| 02:48.31 | LiraNuna | Ebzzry, /win 1, Ctrl+X |
| 02:48.37 | ptl_demands_PR12 | other times I go through the terminal |
| 02:48.45 | LiraNuna | <ptl_demands_PR12> I use irssi on my server with irssi-proxy now |
| 02:48.46 | LiraNuna | <3 |
| 02:49.11 | Ebzzry | LiraNuna: that's a lot of keypresses, compared to a tap with xchat. |
| 02:49.18 | LiraNuna | I know |
| 02:49.28 | *** join/#maemo z4chh (~zach@dhcp-128-194-74-49.resnet.tamu.edu) |
| 02:49.28 | LiraNuna | I prefer xchat to irssi, however xchat maemo is horrible |
| 02:49.37 | ShadowJK | esc 1 instead of /win 1 works |
| 02:49.44 | Ebzzry | LiraNuna: in what ways is it horrible? |
| 02:50.44 | LiraNuna | too many to list |
| 02:51.45 | ShadowJK | uses desktop .conf |
| 02:52.10 | ShadowJK | instead of the default maemo .conf |
| 02:52.19 | *** join/#maemo b-man17 (~b-man17@cpe-98-31-62-179.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 02:52.36 | Ebzzry | hmm |
| 02:52.51 | dmj726_n900 | still, have any of you attempted to use pidgin for irc on the n900? |
| 02:54.01 | Ebzzry | dmj726_n900: what are you trying to get at? |
| 02:55.03 | *** join/#maemo mk500 (~mk500@c-24-6-150-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:55.45 | dmj726_n900 | I'm trying to see if anyone can reproduce the bug I mentioned. |
| 02:57.28 | *** join/#maemo b-man17 (~b-man17@cpe-98-31-62-179.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 02:58.34 | dmj726_n900 | connect to a high volume irc channel like #maemo |
| 02:59.02 | dmj726_n900 | leave it open for a while |
| 02:59.38 | dmj726_n900 | then try scrolling through it some. See if microb opens any links you didn't touch. |
| 03:00.14 | Ebzzry | dmj726_n900: hmm |
| 03:01.40 | *** join/#maemo B-man|N900 (~b-man17@cpe-174-102-119-88.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 03:05.05 | *** join/#maemo bleeter (~bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 03:05.09 | *** join/#maemo b-man17 (~b-man17@cpe-98-31-62-179.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 03:09.01 | *** join/#maemo anotnac (~chatzilla@cpc2-dudl9-2-0-cust805.wolv.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 03:09.16 | ptl_demands_PR12 | http://www.somelink.com if anyone is trying to test this bug :) |
| 03:09.22 | *** part/#maemo Drull (~none@S01060014bf83d05f.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 03:10.09 | dmj726_n900 | thanks. |
| 03:10.33 | LiraNuna | meh, another ICE |
| 03:10.33 | LiraNuna | http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/post_bug.cgi |
| 03:10.45 | LiraNuna | er |
| 03:10.53 | LiraNuna | http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=43722 |
| 03:10.54 | povbot | Bug 43722: was not found. |
| 03:11.23 | *** join/#maemo geek00l__ (~geek00l@175.144.173.71) |
| 03:14.13 | dmj726_n900 | while we're waiting for the bug to manifest, anyone looked at the theorarm project goggle seems to be funding? |
| 03:17.54 | dmj726_n900 | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/04/google-boosts-open-video-by-funding-arm-theora-codec.ars |
| 03:25.47 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.173.152) |
| 03:27.39 | *** join/#maemo b-man17 (~b-man17@cpe-174-102-119-88.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 03:31.55 | *** join/#maemo geek00l (~geek00l@175.144.173.164) |
| 03:41.13 | *** join/#maemo radic_ (~radic@p4FDA9840.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:41.40 | *** join/#maemo fangfufu (~fangfufu@global-2-68.nat.csx.cam.ac.uk) |
| 03:47.35 | *** join/#maemo pidus (~gandalf@unaffiliated/pidus) |
| 03:48.25 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.174.54) |
| 03:49.47 | Ken-Young | "su gainroot" just stopped sorking on my N900, after having worked for months. Now it give the error message "su: must be suid to work properly". Does anyone know what has gone wrong, and how to fix it? |
| 03:49.57 | *** join/#maemo MikaT (~mitapoja@projects.sse.fi) |
| 03:50.14 | Ken-Young | s/sorking/working/ |
| 03:51.01 | microlith | type "root" instead |
| 03:51.04 | DocScrutinizer | use sudo gainroot |
| 03:51.08 | DocScrutinizer | or just root |
| 03:51.24 | Ken-Young | DocScrutinizer, Oh, you're right. I forgot. Thanks! |
| 03:52.20 | Ken-Young | microlith, That works too. Thanks! |
| 03:54.21 | Ken-Young | I guess it's a good sign that I haven't had to become root in a while. |
| 04:06.48 | korhojoa | hmm. first day with xlv kernel. let's see hwo this goes |
| 04:07.00 | korhojoa | s/hwo/$1 |
| 04:07.10 | korhojoa | aw. damn. |
| 04:07.34 | korhojoa | s/damn./failure./ |
| 04:10.16 | *** join/#maemo SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 04:17.51 | *** join/#maemo KMFDM (~tKMFDM@ip5658167f.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 04:26.19 | *** join/#maemo b0unc3__ (~b0unc3@dynamic-adsl-84-223-154-205.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 04:26.19 | *** join/#maemo dfl (~Miranda@nat1.academ.org) |
| 04:27.02 | *** join/#maemo geek00l__ (~geek00l@175.144.174.198) |
| 04:27.31 | *** part/#maemo dfl (~Miranda@nat1.academ.org) |
| 04:27.33 | *** join/#maemo dfl (~Miranda@nat1.academ.org) |
| 04:29.51 | *** join/#maemo ptl (~patola@201-92-78-139.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 04:29.53 | *** join/#maemo ptl (~patola@unaffiliated/ptl) |
| 04:29.54 | *** join/#maemo promulo (~romulo@189.71.7.121) |
| 04:30.34 | *** join/#maemo tomaterr (~tomaterr@adsl-99-29-240-57.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:33.01 | ssvb | LiraNuna: "mov r3, #0" + "vdup.32 q9, r3" -> "veor.32 q9, q9, q9" |
| 04:34.33 | *** join/#maemo DocScrutinizer (~jr@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 04:34.41 | ssvb | LiraNuna: "vmvn q9, q8" + "vand q8, q8, q9" -> "vbic" |
| 04:36.35 | ssvb | LiraNuna: or even "mov r3, #0" + "vdup.32 q9, r3" + "vceq.f32 q8, q8, q9" -> "vceq.f32 q8, q8, #0" |
| 04:37.00 | *** join/#maemo Terje1 (~Terje@esprx01x.nokia.com) |
| 04:37.43 | *** join/#maemo Xisdibik (~xisdibik@c-67-164-41-249.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:43.58 | *** join/#maemo danielwilms (~dwilms@cs109108009201.pp.htv.fi) |
| 04:47.09 | *** join/#maemo jayabharath (~a0866114@nat/ti/x-ugnetjxjjgayzslz) |
| 04:49.16 | *** join/#maemo DocScrutinizer-8 (~jr-N810@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 04:51.20 | *** join/#maemo geek00l__ (~geek00l@175.144.175.24) |
| 04:59.25 | *** join/#maemo thomaz (~thomaz@96-35-219-141.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 05:00.11 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.175.57) |
| 05:00.50 | *** join/#maemo Khult (~kahult@gw.digia.com) |
| 05:00.59 | *** join/#maemo Chiku (~Chiku01@unaffiliated/chiku) |
| 05:09.05 | LiraNuna | ssvb, oh yeah! bit clear! |
| 05:09.15 | LiraNuna | this is 1:1 SSE port so there's no bit clear |
| 05:09.27 | *** join/#maemo lcuk2 (lcuk@cpc1-oldh7-0-0-cust142.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 05:10.07 | LiraNuna | <ssvb> LiraNuna: "mov r3, #0" + "vdup.32 q9, r3" -> "veor.32 q9, q9, q9" |
| 05:10.11 | LiraNuna | isn't that a nop |
| 05:10.59 | *** join/#maemo Cy8aer (~Cy8aer@62.157.192.144) |
| 05:11.30 | ssvb | LiraNuna: "eor" == "xor" from x86 |
| 05:11.39 | LiraNuna | ooooh |
| 05:11.46 | LiraNuna | duh |
| 05:11.58 | *** join/#maemo danielsilva (~dsilva@76-218-202-164.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:12.00 | LiraNuna | but wait, I didn't asign zero |
| 05:12.08 | LiraNuna | weird it's not using it itself |
| 05:13.12 | ssvb | also zero can be used as immediate operand for comparison, there is no need to put it into a register |
| 05:15.32 | LiraNuna | ssvb, oh nice |
| 05:15.54 | LiraNuna | not what the intrinsics show... |
| 05:19.24 | *** join/#maemo alexj_ (~alexj@nat/yahoo/x-smzkraldykbievmm) |
| 05:20.41 | shinkamui | is that video of N900s meego legit? |
| 05:20.54 | shinkamui | if so, thats a little exciting, though pretty boring that it does absolutely nothing right now but a console shell |
| 05:21.19 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@86.121.179.137) |
| 05:21.44 | *** join/#maemo SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 05:21.55 | LiraNuna | shinkamui, it's legit since meego was released |
| 05:22.30 | shinkamui | LiraNuna, have you seen the video? |
| 05:22.40 | LiraNuna | this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1hI1BI_Ua8 |
| 05:23.10 | shinkamui | yup |
| 05:23.15 | shinkamui | thats the one |
| 05:23.28 | LiraNuna | looks legit |
| 05:23.38 | LiraNuna | meego was released on 31st |
| 05:24.04 | LiraNuna | (march) |
| 05:24.16 | shinkamui | at least from the video |
| 05:24.21 | shinkamui | it would appear that X isn't working |
| 05:24.25 | *** join/#maemo tekojo (~quassel@192.100.124.156) |
| 05:24.25 | *** join/#maemo tekojo (~quassel@Maemo/maemo.org/infrastructure/tekojo) |
| 05:24.26 | shinkamui | or part of the distribution yet |
| 05:24.35 | shinkamui | or that guy just didn't know what he was doing, I dont know for sure |
| 05:24.40 | *** join/#maemo danielwilms1 (~dwilms@cs109108009201.pp.htv.fi) |
| 05:24.49 | *** join/#maemo chittoor (~chittoor@listertech.in) |
| 05:25.01 | dmj726_n900 | meego is command line only right now. |
| 05:25.04 | LiraNuna | ^ |
| 05:25.08 | shinkamui | hih i dmj726_n900 |
| 05:25.34 | shinkamui | ok, its real late, off to bed |
| 05:25.36 | dmj726_n900 | hi shinkamui |
| 05:25.38 | shinkamui | laters guys |
| 05:26.05 | *** join/#maemo crashanddie (~cb09b989@Maemo/community/contributor/crashanddie) |
| 05:26.47 | crashanddie | GOD I'M SO FECKIN BORED |
| 05:26.57 | *** join/#maemo sleipnir (~sleipnir@p4FDD1C7C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 05:26.59 | crashanddie | I know what I can do! |
| 05:27.03 | crashanddie | Kick people for fun! |
| 05:27.08 | *** mode/#maemo [+o crashanddie] by ChanServ |
| 05:27.16 | *** kick/#maemo [crashanddie!~cb09b989@Maemo/community/contributor/crashanddie] by crashanddie (wooohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo) |
| 05:27.20 | *** join/#maemo crashanddie (~cb09b989@Maemo/community/contributor/crashanddie) |
| 05:27.28 | crashanddie | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 05:28.22 | LiraNuna | oh... kay |
| 05:31.11 | *** join/#maemo rmoravcik (~rmoravcik@gtsgw.ttc.cz) |
| 05:33.00 | LiraNuna | ssvb, GCC doesn't use eor for vdup 0, wtf? |
| 05:33.07 | LiraNuna | ssvb, it does for SSE <_< |
| 05:42.08 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.175.57) |
| 05:42.17 | Jaffa | Morning all |
| 05:44.13 | dmj726_n900 | indeed |
| 05:45.43 | *** join/#maemo Cy8aer (~Cy8aer@62.157.192.144) |
| 05:46.24 | *** join/#maemo rock (~schie2645@96-42-120-21.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 05:47.21 | rock | um new here just passin through |
| 05:47.28 | RST38h | moorning indeed |
| 05:49.16 | crashanddie | morning Jaffa |
| 05:49.27 | *** part/#maemo rock (~schie2645@96-42-120-21.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 05:49.34 | *** join/#maemo swc|666 (~infidel20@unaffiliated/swc666/x-4934821) |
| 05:55.18 | *** join/#maemo ech0Asus (~ech0Asus@c-76-31-129-15.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 06:00.30 | ptl | PR1.2 yet? |
| 06:00.39 | ptl | just soft-trolling, nevermind |
| 06:02.34 | ech0Asus | yay for 33gb downloads... |
| 06:02.59 | dmj726_n900 | windows 8 image? |
| 06:03.21 | ech0Asus | rainbow table |
| 06:04.12 | swc|666 | heh, i'm rsyncing a mysql db 2x that size right now :) |
| 06:04.32 | ech0Asus | need a dictionary figured might as well just go with hex.. |
| 06:05.25 | crashanddie | swc|666: that must run like a dog |
| 06:06.01 | ech0Asus | is there a website you could upload a handshake packet to and have it run aircrack on it? |
| 06:06.20 | crashanddie | wep or wpa? |
| 06:06.24 | ech0Asus | wpa |
| 06:06.35 | *** join/#maemo Cy8aer (~Cy8aer@62.157.192.144) |
| 06:06.40 | *** join/#maemo fqhuy (~huy@133.64.169.222) |
| 06:07.02 | crashanddie | not anymore |
| 06:07.03 | crashanddie | there were a couple |
| 06:07.09 | crashanddie | but they were brought down due to abuse |
| 06:07.18 | crashanddie | well, abuse being the new way of saying "Crap, we can't handle the load" |
| 06:07.18 | ech0Asus | lol sucks |
| 06:07.21 | swc|666 | crashanddie, it runs well |
| 06:07.23 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@86.121.179.137) |
| 06:07.57 | ech0Asus | now we just have to carry around 33gb of rainbow tables? lol |
| 06:08.02 | crashanddie | ech0Asus: Though it'd be interesting to see if it would be possible to harvest the power of GAE and other cloud services for something like that |
| 06:08.13 | crashanddie | ech0Asus: that's what bittorrent is for |
| 06:09.16 | *** join/#maemo anotnac (~chatzilla@cpc2-dudl9-2-0-cust805.wolv.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 06:09.19 | *** join/#maemo Sho_ (~EHS1@kde/hein) |
| 06:09.25 | ech0Asus | going to have to edit my partitions to fit this on my netbook lol |
| 06:09.50 | crashanddie | ech0Asus: check if this one is still online (can't access it from work) http://ph33rbot.com/kracker/ |
| 06:10.10 | *** join/#maemo dvoid (~dvoid@h230n4-sde-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 06:11.13 | ech0Asus | hey thats cool they do it for 10 bucks |
| 06:11.24 | crashanddie | ah, so he implemented the payment plan |
| 06:11.39 | crashanddie | did he modify it to only charge upon success? |
| 06:11.42 | crashanddie | he had only something like 33% success rate |
| 06:11.50 | ech0Asus | thats not bad i mean that or wait till u can access 33gb of rainbow tables... |
| 06:13.09 | ech0Asus | thx for that link bookmarked :) |
| 06:13.30 | crashanddie | ech0Asus: there's also this one: http://www.wpacracker.com (again, no idea if still online) |
| 06:13.32 | *** join/#maemo aboyer (~quassel@unaffiliated/aboyer) |
| 06:14.00 | *** join/#maemo psybermonkey (~psybermon@115.134.81.254) |
| 06:14.40 | swc|666 | i know the dude that runs http://ph33rbot.com/kracker/ |
| 06:15.05 | swc|666 | its still up and better than moxie marlinspike's cloud cracker |
| 06:15.11 | swc|666 | and cheaper :) |
| 06:16.26 | ech0Asus | rofl wonder how my netbook is going to act with this 33gb file being opened with aircrack |
| 06:18.00 | swc|666 | prolly not too well |
| 06:18.07 | *** join/#maemo nicu (~nicu@office.adfinis.com) |
| 06:18.09 | ech0Asus | yeah didn't think so |
| 06:18.23 | ech0Asus | any suggestions for a portable dictionary? |
| 06:18.28 | swc|666 | that method is sloooow anyways |
| 06:19.21 | DocScrutinizer | how would I start a mediaplayer video via cmdline? |
| 06:19.40 | *** join/#maemo netw (~root@95.43.5.192) |
| 06:19.45 | ech0Asus | i have the handshake packet and have used the tools a lot on wep but i just need a dictionary lol |
| 06:20.23 | netw | what's the paket encrypt |
| 06:20.28 | netw | wep wpa wpa2 |
| 06:20.41 | ech0Asus | erm one i just did was wpa |
| 06:20.50 | netw | shit |
| 06:20.52 | netw | http://armorry.freevar.com/ |
| 06:21.02 | netw | chek the first picture |
| 06:21.06 | netw | for wep |
| 06:21.11 | netw | it's easy |
| 06:21.27 | netw | for wpa y need rainbow tables |
| 06:21.36 | ech0Asus | yeah 33gb is downloading lol |
| 06:22.11 | netw | 2 x 33 |
| 06:22.19 | ech0Asus | 2? |
| 06:22.21 | netw | plus bonus 1 or 5-6 gig |
| 06:22.39 | ech0Asus | i got the renderlab one downloading |
| 06:22.40 | netw | 1 of 5or6 |
| 06:23.02 | netw | i thing it's not worthy |
| 06:23.46 | netw | use something like SET against the target |
| 06:25.03 | *** join/#maemo davyg (~davyg@dau94-9-88-178-191-172.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 06:25.37 | *** part/#maemo netw (~root@95.43.5.192) |
| 06:25.37 | ptl | DocScrutinizer: there has been a maemo mailing list discussion about it, but I have not read it. I'll look into it, hold on. |
| 06:25.55 | DocScrutinizer | ptl: thanks |
| 06:26.45 | ptl | dbus-send --dest=com.nokia.mediaplayer /com/nokia/mediaplayer com.nokia.mediaplayer.mime_open string:file:///home/user/MyDocs/.videos/9.mp4 |
| 06:26.53 | DocScrutinizer | yeah |
| 06:26.58 | ptl | this is it |
| 06:27.00 | ptl | btw, lemme verify if it's in the Phone control page |
| 06:28.13 | ptl | it is... |
| 06:28.45 | *** join/#maemo gomiam (~magao@157.88.94.233) |
| 06:28.52 | DocScrutinizer | is idiot |
| 06:29.20 | DocScrutinizer | thought I'll test the AV while doing a tar backup of all /home |
| 06:29.22 | *** join/#maemo trofi (~slyfox@178.125.2.127) |
| 06:30.03 | DocScrutinizer | probably mediaplayer isn't quite happy with the already 100% cpu, before even any mpeg decoding takes place |
| 06:31.43 | DocScrutinizer | now syslog eats another 20% share of cpu :-S |
| 06:31.47 | DocScrutinizer | [ 5068.331756] omapdss DISPC error: GFX_FIFO_UNDERFLOW |
| 06:32.17 | DocScrutinizer | you might call it a bug in design |
| 06:33.05 | *** join/#maemo warp10 (~warp10@beeseek.org) |
| 06:33.09 | *** join/#maemo warp10 (~warp10@ubuntu/member/warp10) |
| 06:34.23 | ptl | :O |
| 06:34.29 | *** join/#maemo Cervajz (~Cervajz@opensuse/member/Cervajz) |
| 06:35.57 | crashanddie | Yay, I got a +5 funny on /.! |
| 06:36.17 | DocScrutinizer | http://paste.debian.net/68505/ MUHAHAAA |
| 06:36.27 | *** join/#maemo wired (~wired@gentoo/developer/wired) |
| 06:37.15 | crashanddie | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1614294&cid=31813210 |
| 06:37.17 | DocScrutinizer | CPU: 49.7% usr 40.9% sys 0.0% nice 0.0% idle 0.0% io 9.3% irq 0.0% softirq |
| 06:37.18 | DocScrutinizer | Load average: 3.41 3.27 3.02 |
| 06:40.28 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@86.121.179.137) |
| 06:41.13 | *** join/#maemo Abhinav1 (~Abhinav1@unaffiliated/abhinav1) |
| 06:41.28 | *** join/#maemo Wikier (~wikier@cm-staticIP-85-152-18-129.telecable.es) |
| 06:43.29 | DocScrutinizer | I *HATE* BUSYBOX |
| 06:43.36 | DocScrutinizer | no 'kill' in top |
| 06:43.48 | swc|666 | yeah |
| 06:44.05 | swc|666 | that other top prg has it |
| 06:44.10 | swc|666 | prog* |
| 06:44.14 | swc|666 | htop or something |
| 06:44.29 | DocScrutinizer | aah |
| 06:44.42 | *** join/#maemo wazd (~wazd@188.123.241.73) |
| 06:44.58 | ptl | htop |
| 06:45.05 | ptl | htop is much better than top but also uses lots more CPU |
| 06:45.33 | ptl | I prefer atop, that has lots of other interesting statistics and a few good options. |
| 06:45.41 | *** join/#maemo FlavioFerreiraBR (~Flavio@189.71.127.208) |
| 06:45.59 | ptl | hey FlavioFerreiraBR, woke up early? |
| 06:46.02 | ptl | not even 4 o'clock here in Brazil |
| 06:46.07 | ptl | 4 in the morning |
| 06:46.28 | DocScrutinizer | anyway a killall mediaplayer did it |
| 06:46.40 | ptl | I don't like killall because of solaris. :P |
| 06:46.44 | *** join/#maemo petur (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) |
| 06:46.58 | DocScrutinizer | hehehe |
| 06:46.59 | ptl | I prefer pkill, process kill. It's the same use, you kill a process by name., |
| 06:47.19 | *** join/#maemo ppenz (~ppenz@cm130-2.liwest.at) |
| 06:47.31 | ptl | and it's there, in busybox. |
| 06:47.39 | ech0Asus | erm apt-get install * |
| 06:47.43 | *** join/#maemo tekojo (~quassel@Maemo/maemo.org/infrastructure/tekojo) |
| 06:48.16 | *** join/#maemo kwek (~kwek@212.230.227.214) |
| 06:48.20 | *** join/#maemo hannesw (~hannes@80-121-120-143.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 06:48.23 | ptl | apt-get install * will just try to apt-get install the names of the files in the current directory. Won't work, usually. |
| 06:48.30 | *** join/#maemo calvaris (~calvaris@155.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com) |
| 06:48.42 | DocScrutinizer | I start to doubt the brilliance of the idea tor tar /home |
| 06:48.43 | ptl | apt-get install '*' wouldn't work if there is any package with 'conflicts:' in the repositories you use. |
| 06:49.21 | ech0Asus | apt-get install k* |
| 06:49.47 | DocScrutinizer | apt-get install '*' |
| 06:49.58 | ech0Asus | rofl im watchin asian dudes play table tenis they are so into it |
| 06:49.58 | ptl | ech0Asus: try and use single or double quotes, because if there is any file beginning with k on the current directories, your command would expand to it. |
| 06:50.25 | *** join/#maemo bleeter (~bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 06:50.26 | ptl | ech0Asus: to understand what I mean, try echo * |
| 06:50.41 | DocScrutinizer | apt-get install '*' |
| 06:50.43 | ech0Asus | rofl mens doubles they look like two twins |
| 06:51.13 | ech0Asus | u can get people in #ubuntu to type anything lol |
| 06:51.30 | ptl | so you are trying to spoil them, right? |
| 06:51.59 | ech0Asus | tryin to make them check out everything that starts with k... |
| 06:52.01 | ptl | fork bomb comes to mind. |
| 06:52.02 | ptl | Don't do that! |
| 06:52.46 | DocScrutinizer | wonders WTF those THREE /usr/sbin/omap3camd -d /dev/video1 and another THREE for video0 are for |
| 06:52.58 | ptl | :(){ :|:& };: |
| 06:53.00 | ptl | Don't type these commands. |
| 06:53.21 | ptl | DocScrutinizer: what are you using your camera for?? |
| 06:53.30 | ptl | your cameraS |
| 06:53.35 | DocScrutinizer | atm? nuttin |
| 06:53.46 | *** join/#maemo villemv (~quassel@esprx02x.nokia.com) |
| 06:53.57 | ech0Asus | so whats up with the webcam on the n900... what are we supposed to video conference with cause skype sure doesn't have it... |
| 06:53.58 | ptl | you are using htop |
| 06:54.04 | ptl | for me there is only one process for each camera |
| 06:54.13 | *** join/#maemo mikhas (~michael@2001:2060:40:2:221:6aff:fe94:b16) |
| 06:54.23 | ptl | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.28 | ptl | but htop shows the threads |
| 06:54.31 | *** join/#maemo kamui__ (~KamN900@ip68-11-94-155.no.no.cox.net) |
| 06:54.32 | ptl | by default |
| 06:54.42 | ech0Asus | htop is nice :) |
| 06:55.00 | ptl | so you might be watching all threads from these processes, besides the processes |
| 06:55.12 | DocScrutinizer | 788, 789, 793 : video0 |
| 06:55.15 | *** join/#maemo povbot (~supybot@office.pov.lt) |
| 06:55.25 | ptl | well... these are process identifiers. weird |
| 06:55.39 | *** join/#maemo cmvo (~cmvo@ex4.73a.net) |
| 06:55.49 | DocScrutinizer | 745, 757, 781 video1 |
| 06:57.05 | ptl | but are you using htop? |
| 06:57.11 | ptl | try using ps |
| 06:57.35 | ptl | ok, from using htop I also see three entries for video device |
| 07:00.08 | *** join/#maemo tekojo (~quassel@Maemo/maemo.org/infrastructure/tekojo) |
| 07:00.16 | ptl | but... that's weird. Now I try ps -ef, I see 2 processes only. Then I try ps -eLf to see threads too, and I still see two processes. I can't get the same result as htop. |
| 07:00.35 | DocScrutinizer | probably threads. htop is weird |
| 07:01.01 | DocScrutinizer | hmm |
| 07:02.17 | DocScrutinizer | I'd curse FUCKIN BUSYBOX |
| 07:02.52 | *** join/#maemo jpe (~jpe@d5152E781.static.telenet.be) |
| 07:02.59 | ptl | tried to get by pid |
| 07:03.08 | ptl | that's really weird |
| 07:03.17 | ptl | only the first process appears, the others don't |
| 07:03.20 | DocScrutinizer | messybox ps is weird |
| 07:03.45 | DocScrutinizer | s/weird/braindead crap |
| 07:03.59 | ptl | oh |
| 07:04.01 | ptl | pstree shows it |
| 07:04.06 | ptl | try it, pstree -Acp |
| 07:04.14 | ptl | you can grep omap3 if you wish |
| 07:04.21 | *** join/#maemo murrayc (~murrayc@dslb-084-056-022-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:04.34 | DocScrutinizer | pstree: not found |
| 07:04.39 | ptl | but I wonder why ps -eLf does not shows these threads |
| 07:05.04 | ptl | [root@n900 /root]% dpkg -S `which pstree` |
| 07:05.04 | ptl | psmisc: /usr/bin/pstree |
| 07:05.05 | ptl | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:05.05 | *** join/#maemo hannesw (~hannes@80-121-120-143.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 07:05.08 | DocScrutinizer | ~nuke busybox |
| 07:05.11 | infobot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at busybox ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 07:05.11 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@86.121.179.137) |
| 07:05.15 | ptl | apt-get install psmisc |
| 07:05.55 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# ps --help |
| 07:05.57 | DocScrutinizer | BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso26+0m5) multi-call binary |
| 07:07.11 | ptl | oh. |
| 07:07.15 | ptl | that explains it. |
| 07:08.38 | ptl | lol |
| 07:08.42 | DocScrutinizer | I *HATE* BUSYBOX |
| 07:08.43 | ptl | the psmisc package has a manpage in it |
| 07:08.56 | DocScrutinizer | cool, alas we got no mandb |
| 07:09.12 | ptl | yep |
| 07:09.27 | *** join/#maemo amigadave (~amigadave@85.183.48.167) |
| 07:09.34 | ptl | nevertheless |
| 07:09.39 | ptl | it's only listed in the package |
| 07:09.46 | ptl | it was not installed. Doh |
| 07:10.02 | ptl | maybe it couldn't create the /usr/share/man/man1 directory |
| 07:10.05 | *** join/#maemo silbo___ (~quassel@193.40.194.207) |
| 07:10.16 | DocScrutinizer | ""OHNOEEES 15MB just for *manpages*?!!?!!!!?! BUT ... we got only 32GB!"" |
| 07:10.47 | *** join/#maemo alterego (alterego@sverige.freeshell.org) |
| 07:10.58 | *** join/#maemo Addison2 (~addison@adsl-76-251-213-233.dsl.lgtpmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:11.09 | Addison2 | Hey all. :) |
| 07:11.17 | ptl | where can I find the "real" ps? |
| 07:11.35 | DocScrutinizer | coreutils? |
| 07:11.55 | Addison2 | Anyone here willing to help me out? It might take a few minutes of your time. I corrupted my memory card trying to partition it. |
| 07:12.00 | *** join/#maemo Vanadis_Work (~Vanadis_W@cust.static.84-253-9-113.cybernet.ch) |
| 07:12.08 | ptl | let me try |
| 07:12.26 | DocScrutinizer | beware!! coreutils are said to kill boot |
| 07:12.46 | ptl | After this operation, 336MB disk space will be freed. |
| 07:12.48 | ptl | lol |
| 07:12.59 | ptl | it would install everything |
| 07:13.04 | ptl | rofl |
| 07:13.06 | ptl | *uninstall everything |
| 07:13.15 | *** join/#maemo sqwable (~sqwabler_@c-d79fe055.312-1-64736c22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 07:13.17 | ptl | practically all base packages would be uninstalled |
| 07:13.20 | DocScrutinizer | what? coreutils?? |
| 07:13.59 | ptl | yes |
| 07:14.01 | DocScrutinizer | Addison2: reformat it? |
| 07:14.33 | Addison2 | Yes Doc, I reformatted it completely on my Windows XP. I think I really goobered it somehow. |
| 07:14.37 | DocScrutinizer | Addison2: the internal eMMC or the uSD |
| 07:14.37 | hrw | morning |
| 07:14.39 | DocScrutinizer | ? |
| 07:14.50 | DocScrutinizer | ahh on wixp |
| 07:14.57 | Addison2 | It's a SanDisk 4 gig card. |
| 07:15.02 | ptl | external mmc |
| 07:15.05 | DocScrutinizer | so I get it youre talking bout uSd |
| 07:15.11 | ptl | reformat it with vfat filesystem type |
| 07:15.14 | ech0Asus | addison get the boot disk for gparted and use that to format your sandisk |
| 07:15.18 | ptl | it should work |
| 07:15.38 | ech0Asus | just be sure not to format ur xp install... lol |
| 07:15.50 | Addison2 | I have gparted CD. I restarted my computer and gparted booted just fine. I didn't have a clue how to use it though. |
| 07:16.43 | ech0Asus | erm.. switch it to the sd disk by clicking in top right then use it to format that disk.. its pretty easy has a lot of stuff to click... |
| 07:17.00 | Addison2 | If I grabbed my wife's laptop and logged back in here. Could you walk me through the steps or find a web page for me to read? I can't seem to find one. |
| 07:17.50 | Addison2 | Oh, and gparted crashed on me because I didn't know how to even start it. :( |
| 07:17.51 | Addison2 | I'm a tool by the way. :) |
| 07:17.51 | ech0Asus | um.. |
| 07:18.25 | DocScrutinizer | suggests (on N900 root): ~> dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/mmcblk1p1 bs=1M count=10 |
| 07:19.08 | Addison2 | I'm more of a simple point and click kind of guy. This might be a tough one for me. |
| 07:19.20 | DocScrutinizer | then remove and reinsert the uSD. N900 should ask you if you want to format it |
| 07:19.29 | ech0Asus | gparted is clickable.. i'd start clickin' that way.. |
| 07:20.07 | Addison2 | Well, gparted had some kind of screen asking how to boot it and I poopered all over the menus and got lost. |
| 07:20.22 | ech0Asus | that or any other partitioning tool should work great |
| 07:20.27 | Addison2 | Crap, I hate coming online and looking dumb. :) |
| 07:20.28 | MiXu- | Is Chrome for N900 being actively developed by someone(tm)? |
| 07:20.30 | DocScrutinizer | Addison2: forget wixp |
| 07:20.41 | DocScrutinizer | Addison2: use N900 clean linux |
| 07:21.01 | Addison2 | I have a N800 by the way. |
| 07:21.09 | DocScrutinizer | oooh |
| 07:21.11 | Addison2 | I'm still living in abject poverty. :) |
| 07:21.19 | ech0Asus | i had one of those |
| 07:21.25 | ech0Asus | format it through your file manager |
| 07:21.34 | ech0Asus | hold down and it will pop up a menu |
| 07:21.37 | crashanddie | Addison2: heh |
| 07:21.39 | ech0Asus | then u can select format |
| 07:21.40 | DocScrutinizer | Addison2: anyway, should work as well |
| 07:21.58 | Addison2 | Yeah, it asked if it wanted me for the tablet to try and fix it. That's okay then? |
| 07:22.08 | ech0Asus | n800 was cool, could hold 2 sd cards... |
| 07:22.19 | ech0Asus | yes let it fix it |
| 07:22.30 | Addison2 | Okay. Thanks. Trying it out right now. |
| 07:22.31 | ech0Asus | it can fix it a lot better then the xp machine can |
| 07:22.36 | ech0Asus | np man |
| 07:23.50 | Addison2 | So it's saying "Memory card is incorrectly formatted or corrupted." So go ahead and repair? |
| 07:23.56 | ech0Asus | yeah |
| 07:24.22 | ech0Asus | your data is lost at this point on it but u can format it and use it again for other things... |
| 07:24.29 | Addison2 | "Unable to repair memory card. Format card via File manager." Joy! :D |
| 07:24.46 | Addison2 | I never had anything on the card to begin with. |
| 07:25.02 | ech0Asus | has the card ever worked? |
| 07:25.07 | Addison2 | I was trying to do crap to it so I could use Easy Debian. |
| 07:25.18 | ech0Asus | yeah easy debian is great |
| 07:25.36 | ech0Asus | installed it on my 900 day or so ago |
| 07:25.42 | Addison2 | I wouldn't know. :) |
| 07:25.46 | X-Fade | Morning |
| 07:25.49 | ech0Asus | mornin' |
| 07:25.52 | DocScrutinizer | moin |
| 07:25.55 | crashanddie | moin |
| 07:26.00 | ech0Asus | anyways, try and format it via ur file manager |
| 07:26.09 | crashanddie | your |
| 07:26.26 | ech0Asus | sorry i'm tired |
| 07:27.21 | *** join/#maemo ceyusa (~ceyusa@155.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com) |
| 07:28.04 | jacekowski | X-Fade: repositories are broken |
| 07:28.20 | X-Fade | jacekowski: what did you do :) |
| 07:28.20 | crashanddie | jacekowski: you're broken |
| 07:28.20 | jacekowski | morning |
| 07:28.41 | jacekowski | X-Fade: i've sent something yesterday to free, and nothing happened |
| 07:28.46 | Addison2 | Okay. From File Manager I went to Tools -> Format memory card. Clicked "Okay". It said something like "Formating memory card" with a bar that never filled up. And yeah, it didn't work. :( |
| 07:28.56 | jacekowski | so 6h later i've sent something to non-free |
| 07:29.00 | jacekowski | and nothing happened as well |
| 07:29.08 | crashanddie | jacekowski: build log? |
| 07:29.12 | *** join/#maemo GNUton-BNC (~gnuton@kde/developer/aloisio) |
| 07:29.21 | jacekowski | there is even bug reported |
| 07:29.48 | jacekowski | bug 9889 |
| 07:29.49 | ech0Asus | ok find someone with a sd card and swap urs with theirs.. |
| 07:29.49 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9889 Autobuilder does not upload packaged to extras-devel |
| 07:30.01 | ech0Asus | rofl i'm goin to bed... |
| 07:30.08 | X-Fade | Looking into it. |
| 07:30.33 | Addison2 | Okay Echo. Sounds like a great idea! Thanks! |
| 07:30.57 | jacekowski | it looks like there was nothing added into repo since 9th of april |
| 07:33.15 | X-Fade | Ugh, I found the issue. It is processing again now. |
| 07:34.07 | *** join/#maemo bigbrovar (~bigbrovar@83.229.6.19) |
| 07:34.07 | jacekowski | it's still building against 1.2? |
| 07:35.05 | *** join/#maemo AD-N770 (~jep@24.Red-80-26-22.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 07:36.46 | DocScrutinizer | this seems will not change anytime (until 1.3 ;-P ) |
| 07:37.08 | *** join/#maemo mk8 (~torello@ip-212-141.sn1.eutelia.it) |
| 07:41.40 | jacekowski | X-Fade: packages already sent are lost? |
| 07:42.05 | dottedmag | ptl: have a look at docpurge package. that's why manpages aren't installed |
| 07:42.05 | X-Fade | jacekowski: of course not. |
| 07:43.27 | *** join/#maemo amigadave (~amigadave@85.183.48.167) |
| 07:43.31 | *** join/#maemo sergio_ (~sergio@cpc2-camd3-0-0-cust349.hari.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 07:44.48 | X-Fade | jacekowski: It just hang while processing the queue. But that blockage is gone now and it is processing the backlog. |
| 07:46.07 | jacekowski | btw. i was quite amazed by 20 minutes build time |
| 07:46.32 | X-Fade | Dual Quadcore Xeon helps. |
| 07:46.40 | jacekowski | does it have ccache? |
| 07:46.46 | X-Fade | No |
| 07:46.56 | jacekowski | i7? |
| 07:47.23 | jacekowski | core? |
| 07:47.48 | X-Fade | 5420 |
| 07:48.40 | *** part/#maemo Anti[N900] (~Skim@2002:6dab:13b9:1:ee9b:5bff:fed3:99f6) |
| 07:48.54 | jacekowski | mhm i have 5520 here and it's not even close to 20 minutes |
| 07:48.58 | *** join/#maemo mtameni (~michele@dynamic-adsl-84-223-94-179.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 07:49.17 | X-Fade | jacekowski: parallel build? |
| 07:49.19 | jacekowski | and i don't think vmware is causing that much overhead |
| 07:49.28 | jacekowski | well -j 2 instead of 4 |
| 07:49.39 | *** join/#maemo Gadgetoid_mbp (~phil@84.92.26.220) |
| 07:49.55 | jacekowski | ( it's vm with 2 vcpus ) |
| 07:49.57 | X-Fade | vmware is very bad on latency it seems. |
| 07:50.19 | X-Fade | We had vmware at our previous isp and we had nothing but trouble. |
| 07:50.37 | DocScrutinizer | ooohnoes now it rebooted in the middle of the giant tarjob |
| 07:51.23 | *** join/#maemo mairas (~mairas@esprx02x.nokia.com) |
| 07:51.25 | jacekowski | ok, disaster |
| 07:51.37 | jacekowski | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/non-free/c/chromium/ that has to go |
| 07:51.52 | X-Fade | jacekowski: I can do that. |
| 07:53.19 | DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: close bug 9889 |
| 07:53.20 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9889 Autobuilder does not upload packaged to extras-devel |
| 07:53.44 | *** join/#maemo bigbrovar (~bigbrovar@83.229.6.19) |
| 07:54.41 | X-Fade | DocScrutinizer: done |
| 07:55.13 | RST38h | jacekowski: And why exactly is it a disaster? |
| 07:55.36 | X-Fade | RST38h: 2 times the same version in 2 separate repos. |
| 07:55.41 | RST38h | Ah! |
| 07:55.45 | jacekowski | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/c/chromium/ and http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/non-free/c/chromium/ |
| 07:55.50 | *** join/#maemo andre__ (~andre@Maemo/community/bugmaster/andre) |
| 07:55.54 | *** join/#maemo jonne|reconnecte (~jonne@97.100-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 07:56.40 | *** join/#maemo naba2 (~naba@cs78154083.pp.htv.fi) |
| 07:56.52 | *** join/#maemo eocanha (~eocanha@130.152.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 07:58.41 | *** join/#maemo bidossessi (~bidossess@41.221.23.177) |
| 07:58.48 | *** join/#maemo kalikiana (~kalikiana@xfce/goodies-developer/kalikiana) |
| 07:58.57 | jacekowski | is it possible to just send package to be built and don't import it into repository ( debug build and etc. )? |
| 07:59.39 | X-Fade | jacekowski: No, that has been mentioned before though. |
| 08:05.46 | *** join/#maemo crashanddie_ (~slauwers@Maemo/community/contributor/crashanddie) |
| 08:06.05 | *** join/#maemo tgalal (~tarek@41.178.140.245) |
| 08:06.19 | *** join/#maemo eMHa (~mh@212.144.117.125) |
| 08:07.47 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@86.121.171.50) |
| 08:08.30 | *** join/#maemo frade (~ivan@esprx02x.nokia.com) |
| 08:09.31 | *** join/#maemo _Lucretia_ (~munkee@pdpc/supporter/active/lucretia) |
| 08:13.49 | *** join/#maemo The_Tall1 (~A@infedyn194.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de) |
| 08:14.07 | *** join/#maemo Abhinav1|away (~Abhinav1@unaffiliated/abhinav1) |
| 08:15.15 | ptl | I've just setup a ad-hoc network for the N900 from my laptop |
| 08:15.16 | ptl | justin case |
| 08:15.20 | ptl | *just in case |
| 08:15.20 | ptl | :) |
| 08:18.14 | jacekowski | i think o2 underestimated demand for joggler |
| 08:18.30 | jacekowski | i've made an order on wednesday for next day delivery |
| 08:18.40 | jacekowski | and it's still not shipped |
| 08:19.22 | ptl | why is this device so hot? |
| 08:19.47 | jacekowski | price |
| 08:19.51 | jacekowski | and what it can do |
| 08:19.52 | Appiah | drop it like its hot! |
| 08:19.59 | frals | its pretty hackable isnt it? |
| 08:20.07 | jacekowski | yes |
| 08:20.16 | jacekowski | http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler |
| 08:20.32 | Appiah | ptl: 3G , then ad-hoc wifi? |
| 08:20.50 | *** join/#maemo bilboed-pi (~bilboed@74.Red-80-24-4.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 08:21.05 | ptl | Appiah: 3G, then my regular wifi (linksys router), then ad-hoc wifi |
| 08:22.27 | Appiah | so you're connected to 3G and Wifi at the same time? |
| 08:22.37 | ptl | no, no |
| 08:22.46 | wired | was watching some xvid series on a TV set the other day, streamed over wifi from his laptop, using the vid-out cable, on a 800mhz oc'd n900 (thank god for oc, mplayer would drop too many frames otherwise :)) |
| 08:22.47 | ptl | the N900 tries 3G first |
| 08:23.11 | ptl | I'm going to install it anytime, wired |
| 08:23.17 | wired | while at the same time i tethered my 3d connection through the same (adhoc) wifi connection to my laptop |
| 08:23.21 | ptl | I'm just waiting for PR1.2 |
| 08:23.24 | wired | you have to love this device :) |
| 08:23.28 | ptl | you bet |
| 08:23.34 | wired | s/3d/3g/ |
| 08:24.00 | ptl | because the stock kernel does not |
| 08:24.02 | ptl | btw, any of these overclocked kernels has support for full NAT? |
| 08:24.15 | wired | yes the titan one works brilliantly |
| 08:24.22 | ptl | hmmm, cool. |
| 08:24.24 | wired | and you can oc on demand |
| 08:24.28 | ptl | :D |
| 08:24.36 | wired | so i keep it at 600 and oc to 800 when i need it :) |
| 08:24.47 | Appiah | I been watching some series on the n900 |
| 08:24.52 | Appiah | and had smooth playback |
| 08:25.10 | wired | that depends on the codec and bitrate :) |
| 08:25.24 | Appiah | ofcourse |
| 08:26.27 | Appiah | but I have yet try to watch something in high quailty that the n900 could not handle |
| 08:26.56 | Appiah | So what codec and bitrate cant the n900 handle without oc wired ? |
| 08:27.39 | *** join/#maemo _berto_ (~berto@155.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com) |
| 08:30.18 | *** join/#maemo raster (~raster@enlightenment/developer/raster) |
| 08:30.54 | wired | Appiah: well those vids weren't anything too high, let me see if i can check it out from here |
| 08:31.04 | raster | maarp |
| 08:31.34 | *** join/#maemo konttori (~konttori@Maemo/OS/konttori) |
| 08:32.19 | *** join/#maemo konttori_ (~konttori@Maemo/OS/konttori) |
| 08:32.31 | wired | VIDEO: [XVID] 512x384 12bpp 23.976 fps 910.0 kbps (111.1 kbyte/s) |
| 08:32.40 | wired | this one, using mplayer |
| 08:35.08 | nidO | im gonna say thats mplayer, I have no trouble with those kinds of quality with the standard media player |
| 08:38.16 | wired | its possible |
| 08:38.20 | Appiah | hmm |
| 08:38.57 | wired | i'll have to test it. keep in mind i was using the tv-out, not sure if that brings some sort of penalty |
| 08:39.08 | wired | to performance |
| 08:40.09 | *** join/#maemo calvaris (~calvaris@155.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com) |
| 08:41.29 | *** join/#maemo vanadismobile (~user@gprs35.swisscom-mobile.ch) |
| 08:42.58 | *** join/#maemo mardi__ (~mardi_@81.187.141.95) |
| 08:42.59 | *** join/#maemo alicemirror (~Alicemirr@87.253.117.195) |
| 08:44.12 | *** join/#maemo tackat_ (~trahn@pd95bc258.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:44.45 | *** join/#maemo psybermonkey (~psybermon@115.134.81.254) |
| 08:46.45 | *** join/#maemo ptlo (~senko@cpe-94-253-167-167.zg.cable.xnet.hr) |
| 08:48.31 | *** join/#maemo schasch (~bucket@p578b7dd5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:50.10 | *** join/#maemo SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 08:51.49 | SpeedEvil_ | ShadowJK: I note bq* datasheet says 20mr |
| 08:52.24 | ShadowJK | it's just an example |
| 08:52.39 | ShadowJK | but I did switch to 20 a week or two ago |
| 08:53.16 | SpeedEvil_ | k |
| 08:53.26 | SpeedEvil_ | I need to measure. |
| 08:53.35 | *** join/#maemo dmj726_n900 (~user@m220e36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 08:53.39 | SpeedEvil_ | too much boring shit to do. |
| 08:53.51 | SpeedEvil_ | And soldering iron died. |
| 08:54.24 | *** join/#maemo zs (~zs@188-220-50-10.zone11.bethere.co.uk) |
| 08:55.09 | *** join/#maemo dmj726_n900 (~user@m620e36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 08:55.18 | *** join/#maemo peetah (~peetah@cha92-12-88-162-171-185.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:56.04 | *** join/#maemo crashanddie_ (~slauwers@Maemo/community/contributor/crashanddie) |
| 08:56.08 | *** join/#maemo Free_maN (~Free_maN@unaffiliated/freeman) |
| 08:56.42 | *** join/#maemo achipa (~chatzilla@Maemo/community/contributor/achipa) |
| 08:56.54 | *** join/#maemo Abhinav1 (~Abhinav1@unaffiliated/abhinav1) |
| 09:05.08 | *** join/#maemo psybermonkey (~psybermon@115.134.81.254) |
| 09:05.16 | *** join/#maemo ceyusa (~ceyusa@155.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com) |
| 09:05.51 | *** join/#maemo mardi__ (~mardi_@95.141.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 09:06.14 | *** join/#maemo cos^ (cosmo@coffee.modeemi.fi) |
| 09:07.45 | *** join/#maemo petrux (~petrux@host16-224-static.53-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 09:08.17 | *** join/#maemo tbf (~mathias@86.56.57.78) |
| 09:08.26 | *** join/#maemo Wolfie (~hpaul@tuxedo.abo.fi) |
| 09:08.30 | *** join/#maemo tipi^ (pihlstro@lehtori.cc.tut.fi) |
| 09:09.20 | *** join/#maemo zap (~zap@28.169.249.ozerki.net) |
| 09:09.29 | *** join/#maemo calvaris (~calvaris@155.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com) |
| 09:09.39 | *** join/#maemo Termana (~bradley@CPE-58-170-135-97.lns1.pie.bigpond.net.au) |
| 09:11.54 | *** join/#maemo konttori (~konttori@Maemo/OS/konttori) |
| 09:13.49 | *** join/#maemo aboyer (~quassel@unaffiliated/aboyer) |
| 09:14.27 | *** join/#maemo deegee (~drussell@cpc3-brom7-0-0-cust36.wolv.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 09:15.23 | *** join/#maemo mardi__ (~mardi_@81.187.141.95) |
| 09:22.03 | *** join/#maemo bidossessi (~bidossess@41.221.23.177) |
| 09:25.51 | *** join/#maemo dmj726_n900 (~user@m220e36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 09:27.03 | *** join/#maemo bleeter (~bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 09:27.41 | *** join/#maemo woodong50__ (~moodapo@211.244.137.200) |
| 09:31.08 | *** join/#maemo pidus (~gandalf@unaffiliated/pidus) |
| 09:31.31 | *** join/#maemo cbrake (~cbrake@oh-69-34-21-229.sta.embarqhsd.net) |
| 09:35.36 | jacekowski | some wanker is trying to dos my server |
| 09:36.17 | crashanddie_ | jacekowski: http redirect 127.0.0.1? |
| 09:36.25 | jacekowski | just ignoring him |
| 09:37.01 | jacekowski | he's not very good at it and cband is enough |
| 09:37.21 | *** join/#maemo villemv (~quassel@esprx02x.nokia.com) |
| 09:37.32 | *** join/#maemo ufa__ (~ufa@187.54.96.217) |
| 09:37.34 | *** join/#maemo talmai (~talmai@84-255-245-231.static.t-2.net) |
| 09:39.50 | *** part/#maemo alicemirror (~Alicemirr@87.253.117.195) |
| 09:40.10 | talmai | hello |
| 09:40.16 | talmai | has anyone tried PhoneGap on maemo? |
| 09:40.35 | talmai | http://blog.mfabrik.com/phonegap-on-maemo/ |
| 09:40.47 | talmai | works well in scratchbox x68 |
| 09:40.53 | talmai | but on the phone i get a segfault |
| 09:42.10 | jacekowski | it would be helpful if you could provide core dump/stack trace/anything |
| 09:42.47 | jacekowski | btw. what was name of that app that could create core dump without killing application? |
| 09:42.50 | *** join/#maemo kurtan (~kurtan@kurtan.se) |
| 09:43.35 | *** join/#maemo flavioribeiro (~Flavio@200.97.67.57) |
| 09:43.41 | *** join/#maemo pupnik (~pupnik@unaffiliated/pupnik) |
| 09:44.29 | *** join/#maemo konttori (~konttori@Maemo/OS/konttori) |
| 09:45.16 | *** join/#maemo C-S-B-N900 (~C-S-B@82.132.139.95) |
| 09:45.19 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.172.0) |
| 09:45.20 | *** join/#maemo smaug___ (~chatzilla@cs181150024.pp.htv.fi) |
| 09:45.28 | Anss| | jacekowski, gdb? |
| 09:47.12 | *** join/#maemo mece (~mwikstro@mariehamn.abo.fi) |
| 09:50.28 | hrw | heh.. n900 made one ugly thing to maemo.org |
| 09:50.39 | hrw | t.m.o is not worth reading anymore |
| 09:50.51 | hrw | too much crap there |
| 09:50.53 | hrw | konttori: hi |
| 09:54.19 | talmai | jacekowski: when running in gdb, i get this: |
| 09:54.42 | talmai | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 09:54.42 | talmai | 0x4085aa1c in QMetaObject::indexOfSignal(char const*) const () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 |
| 09:54.42 | talmai | 0x4085aa1c <_ZNK11QMetaObject13indexOfSignalEPKc+32>:ldrr0, [r1, #16] |
| 09:55.56 | *** join/#maemo tekojo (~quassel@Maemo/maemo.org/infrastructure/tekojo) |
| 09:58.07 | *** join/#maemo flavioribeiro (~Flavio@200.97.67.57) |
| 09:58.59 | *** part/#maemo Khult (~kahult@gw.digia.com) |
| 10:00.56 | *** join/#maemo danielwilms (~dwilms@esprx02x.nokia.com) |
| 10:04.29 | *** join/#maemo avs (~avs@alpskari.asiantuntijat.org) |
| 10:05.21 | *** join/#maemo ddweerasiri (~denis@202.129.235.15) |
| 10:07.16 | Scelt | konttori hops in and out, in and out |
| 10:07.28 | Scelt | avoiding our questions |
| 10:08.16 | lcuk2 | Scelt, konttori hops in and out because hes not in work at the moment |
| 10:08.26 | Scelt | why |
| 10:08.48 | lcuk2 | baby month |
| 10:09.11 | Scelt | nice |
| 10:16.44 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.172.0) |
| 10:17.30 | *** join/#maemo andrei_ (~andrei108@81.18.92.10) |
| 10:17.58 | *** join/#maemo jukey (~jukey@kamiserver.de) |
| 10:18.23 | *** join/#maemo bleeter (~bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 10:21.57 | *** join/#maemo lcuk (lcuk@Maemo/community/contributor/lcuk) |
| 10:22.47 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@81.18.92.10) |
| 10:26.28 | kirma | wonders if it's possible in any sensible way to maintain an informative, advanced-hacking discussion board for product sold in scale of millions without all that crap or overreaching moderation |
| 10:27.42 | *** join/#maemo lbt (~lbt@88.211.33.26) |
| 10:27.42 | *** join/#maemo lbt (~lbt@Maemo/community/contributor/lbt) |
| 10:27.56 | Wolfie | kirma: i guess Here Comes Everybody would tell you that |
| 10:28.32 | Wolfie | the Clay Shirky's book |
| 10:29.01 | kirma | I guess I've heard it being mentioned earlier too |
| 10:29.36 | Wolfie | i should order it, actually... |
| 10:29.40 | *** join/#maemo Dantonic (~david@c-67-174-39-138.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:29.45 | Wolfie | the xUnit book i'm reading is killing me |
| 10:34.31 | *** join/#maemo woodong50__ (~moodapo@211.244.137.200) |
| 10:34.59 | *** join/#maemo rom1dep (~rom1dep@unaffiliated/rom1dep) |
| 10:37.12 | *** join/#maemo cyborg-one (1000@188.115.157.27) |
| 10:38.12 | corecode | kirma: increase entry difficulty |
| 10:40.10 | corecode | kirma: if you can filter 99% of the people, it is more likely that the remaining 1% are dedicated to the use of the platform. of course, you can have dedicated trolls, but they are usually easier to ignore than the generic white noise |
| 10:42.05 | *** join/#maemo flavioribeiro (~Flavio@200.97.67.57) |
| 10:43.55 | *** join/#maemo SunilGhai (~SunilGhai@203.76.178.38) |
| 10:44.11 | rom1dep | jacekowski: if the chromium package works, I check my dinner to be sure there is no hallucinating mushroom in it :) |
| 10:44.24 | jacekowski | rom1dep: it's working |
| 10:44.42 | jacekowski | i hope so |
| 10:45.02 | Scelt | jacekowski: sorry for the tragedy |
| 10:45.09 | jacekowski | i don't care |
| 10:45.29 | *** join/#maemo lizardo (~lizardo@189.2.128.130) |
| 10:45.31 | jacekowski | they shouldn't have tried to land on too short runway in bad conditions |
| 10:45.34 | *** join/#maemo pupnik (~pupnik@unaffiliated/pupnik) |
| 10:46.12 | Scelt | sure. and they all shouldn't have been in the same airplane. but still it's awful |
| 10:46.18 | Stskeeps | jacekowski: you located around warsaw btw? |
| 10:46.22 | jacekowski | no |
| 10:46.30 | Stskeeps | k |
| 10:46.51 | *** join/#maemo TheNewAndy (~andy@60-242-120-238.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 10:47.24 | jacekowski | i'm around colchester |
| 10:47.26 | Stskeeps | ponders if there is more maemo people in warsaw |
| 10:47.47 | jacekowski | doubt that there will be a lot of maemo people in poland |
| 10:47.59 | *** join/#maemo timh (~timhardy@84.12.242.186) |
| 10:47.59 | jacekowski | ( n900 in poland costs about average monthly salary ) |
| 10:48.08 | jacekowski | + contract |
| 10:48.19 | *** part/#maemo timh (~timhardy@84.12.242.186) |
| 10:48.20 | haltdef | I chucked most of my first paycheck at my n900 :P |
| 10:48.22 | haltdef | worth it |
| 10:49.20 | jacekowski | rom1dep: there are some bugs in it but it's working as such |
| 10:49.23 | rom1dep | jacekowski: damn, it starts... and works ! great job :) |
| 10:49.24 | Arkenoi | bought my second n900 via "unofficial import", it saved me almost 30% |
| 10:49.35 | jacekowski | rom1dep: maemo2 version? |
| 10:49.37 | frals | Stskeeps: theres 2 (3 with yours) pins the in the "maemo" map in warszawa at least |
| 10:49.39 | haltdef | :o |
| 10:49.45 | Stskeeps | frals: :nod: |
| 10:49.45 | haltdef | unofficial import? |
| 10:49.49 | jacekowski | rom1dep: from extras? |
| 10:50.11 | rom1dep | jacekowski: yepp, from extras, on n900 1.1 |
| 10:50.13 | jacekowski | i'm surprised that it's working after so many stories of builder building broken packages |
| 10:50.17 | Arkenoi | haltdef: middle east version, they are much cheaper there |
| 10:50.22 | haltdef | ah |
| 10:50.31 | haltdef | shipping didn't cancel it out? |
| 10:50.47 | jacekowski | haltdef: why? |
| 10:50.50 | jacekowski | haltdef: they want to sell |
| 10:50.52 | Arkenoi | nope, here are guys who sell it via local internet stores |
| 10:50.55 | rom1dep | I'm doing some sunspider bench :) |
| 10:51.01 | haltdef | nice |
| 10:51.03 | Arkenoi | so i ordered it and got it the same day |
| 10:51.03 | jacekowski | haltdef: as long as you pay for it |
| 10:51.11 | jacekowski | Arkenoi: same day? |
| 10:51.18 | Arkenoi | yep |
| 10:51.19 | Anss| | yep, it is not cheap. if i would bought one, my girlfriend would like one too. that makes two, which would be expensive. :-| |
| 10:51.27 | Arkenoi | 4 hours actually |
| 10:51.42 | jacekowski | shiping with that speed made it costs twice as much probably |
| 10:51.52 | haltdef | I stopped trying to justify my smartphone purchases a while ago :P |
| 10:52.11 | jacekowski | when i order something from abroad it ussualy spends at least couple days on customs |
| 10:52.16 | Arkenoi | i guess they just have some in local stock ;-) |
| 10:53.05 | jacekowski | rom1dep: i've tried it and it just got stuck at some point |
| 10:53.17 | jacekowski | rom1dep: v8 benchmark worked fine |
| 10:53.20 | *** join/#maemo MohammadAG (~Maemohamm@62.219.120.20) |
| 10:53.24 | *** join/#maemo dl9pf (~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf) |
| 10:53.28 | jacekowski | rom1dep: and microb got about 18 points in it |
| 10:53.35 | jacekowski | rom1dep: chrome about 100 |
| 10:53.41 | jacekowski | rom1dep: opera on my laptop about 3000 |
| 10:53.57 | jacekowski | but chrome can go little bit higher |
| 10:54.12 | jacekowski | because current builds have disabled couple features that could make it faster |
| 10:54.18 | jacekowski | and i'm again talking to myself |
| 10:54.26 | rom1dep | I got 35s with microB, 22 with midori http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2010/04/ipad-review.ars/17 |
| 10:55.37 | rom1dep | the test is running but I fear I'll have to start it again after it finishes (if it finishes) because there was apps runing behind and I received a sms (slows the test) |
| 10:56.04 | jacekowski | i mean- it went trough couple of loops before it got stuck |
| 10:56.05 | *** join/#maemo noobmonk3y (~c2b06929@gateway/web/freenode/x-riccbjkilrtnzupo) |
| 10:56.24 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.172.0) |
| 10:56.39 | jacekowski | and microb failed to do complete test |
| 10:56.44 | rom1dep | ok, I reached the result page, 22s, starting it again... |
| 10:56.49 | barisione | lizardo: http://wiki.maemo.org/PyMaemo/Accessing_APIs_without_Python_bindings/More_examples doesn't do it in the right way |
| 10:56.54 | jacekowski | but on tests that run average score was about 18 |
| 10:57.32 | rom1dep | jacekowski: 18s ? |
| 10:57.48 | jacekowski | i'm talking about v8 |
| 10:57.50 | *** join/#maemo EspadaV8_L (~espadav8@unaffiliated/espadav8) |
| 10:57.52 | jacekowski | different benchmark |
| 10:58.27 | lizardo | barisione: what you mean? |
| 10:58.32 | *** join/#maemo villemv (~quassel@esprx02x.nokia.com) |
| 10:58.39 | barisione | lizardo: I just commented on the thread on the forum |
| 10:58.44 | rom1dep | oh ok, I'm testing through sunspider for now :) |
| 10:58.46 | barisione | you should not use libebook directly |
| 10:58.55 | barisione | lizardo: but just libosso-abook |
| 10:59.14 | barisione | if you just use libebook things will work in most cases but not always |
| 10:59.51 | *** join/#maemo skler` (~skler@static-217-133-74-59.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 10:59.55 | *** part/#maemo rmoravcik (~rmoravcik@gtsgw.ttc.cz) |
| 10:59.57 | jacekowski | rom1dep: have you tried to benchmark microb? |
| 11:00.50 | rom1dep | jacekowski: yepp, as said before I got 35s |
| 11:00.53 | rom1dep | fewer is better |
| 11:01.19 | lizardo | barisione: yes, I'm aware of that... but for some people/situations the returned information should be enough... of course you lack all the great things from abook |
| 11:01.29 | rom1dep | jacekowski: I tried midori too (I guess tear would give the same score) and got 22s |
| 11:01.42 | lizardo | barisione: but if you give me a C working example I can add ctypes equivalent code to that page too :) |
| 11:02.02 | rom1dep | so for now, chromium is at least as fast as the fastest browser for n900 :) |
| 11:02.27 | MiXu- | is chrome for N900 being actively developed by someon? |
| 11:02.47 | SpeedEvil | rom1dep: you've tried fennec, microb, tear, firefox (on debian) ? |
| 11:02.48 | MiXu- | Or is it just a one-man-proof-of-concept ? |
| 11:02.53 | SpeedEvil | proof |
| 11:03.03 | rom1dep | jacekowski: just finished 17814.2ms : chromium is the fastest :) |
| 11:04.11 | *** join/#maemo user__ (~Speedevil@mauve.plus.com) |
| 11:05.55 | rom1dep | SpeedEvil: I'm speaking about reasults gotten on the n900 (I don't have the sdk installed on a pc) because tear and midori are both running GtkWebKit I see no reason to try the two (but maybe will I try later) for fennec vs microB, my experience is microB is the fastest but I didn't run sunspider with fennec to be sure... |
| 11:06.08 | *** join/#maemo Khult (~kahult@gw.digia.com) |
| 11:07.19 | rom1dep | fcrozat: :) |
| 11:07.30 | hrw | fennec... mozilla should work on adding speed to it first |
| 11:08.00 | *** join/#maemo skler` (~skler@static-217-133-74-59.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 11:08.02 | *** join/#maemo trbs (~trbs@5355B9B3.cable.casema.nl) |
| 11:08.21 | jacekowski | rom1dep: still, it's not even close to desktop browser |
| 11:08.33 | rom1dep | hrw: trace monkey is conceptually slower than other jit... let me 2s to find an interesting post about it :) |
| 11:08.38 | SpeedEvil | I have had firefox working as fast as my desktop browser. |
| 11:08.49 | SpeedEvil | (displaying from desktop) |
| 11:08.52 | hrw | rom1dep: I do not care about JS speed |
| 11:09.06 | hrw | rom1dep: fennec as such is slow |
| 11:09.08 | jacekowski | results on desktop are like 18 times better |
| 11:09.18 | jacekowski | at least |
| 11:09.24 | *** join/#maemo Cazou (~detlev@host-213-213-221-24.brutele.be) |
| 11:09.29 | SpeedEvil | hrw: Not IME. |
| 11:09.42 | SpeedEvil | hrw: It tends to paint screen faster for me. |
| 11:09.54 | SpeedEvil | the killer is lack of some features |
| 11:10.18 | rom1dep | hrw: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/03/mozilla-borrows-from-webkit-to-build-fast-new-js-engine.ars |
| 11:10.37 | jacekowski | i think o2 is having serious problem with amount of joggler orders |
| 11:10.52 | hrw | personally I treat microb with such care as opera mini on my e66 phone |
| 11:10.58 | rom1dep | jacekowski: how could a small arm 600Mhz compete with some multi-core pc ? |
| 11:11.10 | *** join/#maemo SmilingShark (~Smilingsh@93-62-4-64.ip20.fastwebnet.it) |
| 11:11.13 | hrw | browser to be used only when I really need browser and do not have desktop available |
| 11:11.41 | SpeedEvil | lynx! |
| 11:11.48 | SpeedEvil | as fast on mobile as desktop |
| 11:12.05 | jacekowski | i have to get gcc on my phone |
| 11:12.18 | jacekowski | is usb networking working on windows? |
| 11:12.36 | rom1dep | jacekowski: any browser running on the n900 could probably be optimized, of course, but copmaring scores obtained on n900 vs computers is a nonsence since hardware is not comparable... |
| 11:12.50 | jacekowski | i know |
| 11:12.50 | SpeedEvil | Interesting |
| 11:12.54 | jacekowski | but that shows how slow it is |
| 11:13.03 | SpeedEvil | pointed at /. - iceweasel renders some page content first |
| 11:13.09 | ccooke | Afternoon, all |
| 11:13.45 | jacekowski | you should compare time to full load |
| 11:13.59 | SpeedEvil | jacekowski: I know - for benchmarking - it's not quite so good. |
| 11:14.14 | SpeedEvil | jacekowski: But if you're not benchmarking, the initial load may be important |
| 11:14.34 | ShadowJK | besides, any optimization can be carried over to PC side and the relative speed difference remains :) |
| 11:15.32 | jacekowski | rom1dep: v8 in chrome is running native arm code |
| 11:15.36 | jacekowski | rom1dep: blah |
| 11:15.42 | jacekowski | rom1dep: it's compiling js to native arm code |
| 11:15.57 | jacekowski | rom1dep: there are some feature that are disabled at the moment |
| 11:16.05 | jacekowski | rom1dep: and memory allocator sucks |
| 11:18.14 | rom1dep | jacekowski: :) I just got 117 on google's-v8 benchmark, my atom netbook I'm typing with got 418 (dual core) so it's not that bad, it's even fastest now on n900 than firefox 1.5 years ago on my netbook... |
| 11:19.54 | *** join/#maemo dreixel (~dreixel@165pc229.sshunet.nl) |
| 11:20.05 | rom1dep | That's good programming, when competition btw different technologies makes software run faster (in contrary to what we see most of the time : programs getting bigger and bigger and so on, slower...) |
| 11:20.09 | barisione | lizardo: I added a C example in the thread |
| 11:21.32 | jacekowski | rom1dep: i really want to se futhark on maemo |
| 11:22.20 | jacekowski | and even better carkan |
| 11:22.53 | *** join/#maemo warp10 (~warp10@beeseek.org) |
| 11:22.58 | *** join/#maemo warp10 (~warp10@ubuntu/member/warp10) |
| 11:23.20 | *** join/#maemo ScriptRipper_ (~mmohring@p4FDBC3C0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:23.50 | *** join/#maemo ScriptRipper_ (~mmohring@p4FDBC3C0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:24.08 | Termana | jacekowski: Those sound like Vikings not applications |
| 11:24.15 | *** join/#maemo ScriptRipper_ (~mmohring@p4FDBC3C0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:24.39 | *** join/#maemo ScriptRipper_ (~mmohring@p4FDBC3C0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:24.57 | Termana | Are those even apps or are you talking about something else? |
| 11:24.58 | wired | v8 on stock n900 browser gave me 16.5 on first run, 17.7 on second |
| 11:25.02 | rom1dep | jacekowski: anyway, that'll make fennec guys angry, at it's first -unofficial- try, chromium -unoptimized- is 3 times faster than firefox... |
| 11:25.15 | *** join/#maemo swo (~swo@p54AEC24C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:25.28 | jacekowski | Termana: it's kinda vikingish |
| 11:25.35 | *** join/#maemo ScriptRipper_ (~mmohring@p4FDBC3C0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:25.43 | Termana | Explains a lot then... :P |
| 11:26.04 | jacekowski | Termana: it's name of js engine in opera |
| 11:26.10 | jacekowski | Termana: and opera is from norawy |
| 11:26.12 | jacekowski | norway* |
| 11:26.14 | rom1dep | wired: so it's more than 3x faster... |
| 11:26.22 | wired | then i oc'd to 800mhx and got 23.2 |
| 11:26.23 | wired | :p |
| 11:27.06 | rom1dep | wired: no oc, 600mhz, 117 B) |
| 11:27.26 | rom1dep | that's crazy |
| 11:27.41 | wired | with chromium? |
| 11:27.46 | rom1dep | wired: yepp |
| 11:27.49 | wired | let me try |
| 11:28.04 | wired | starts chromium |
| 11:28.36 | *** join/#maemo t-tan (~tanner@e176242117.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 11:28.58 | jacekowski | what i need for usb networking? |
| 11:29.21 | lizardo | barisione: thanks :) |
| 11:29.23 | *** part/#maemo lindi- (~lindi@holodeck.hut.fi) |
| 11:29.59 | *** part/#maemo fr01 (~opera@212.30.2.18) |
| 11:30.02 | wired | holy |
| 11:30.05 | wired | 111 on first run |
| 11:30.13 | rom1dep | wired: also, close microb running behind, you can easily lose 30% if chromium isn't running alone... |
| 11:30.32 | wired | rom1dep: i didn't close it, 111 on first run :) |
| 11:30.38 | rom1dep | wired: http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2010/04/ipad-review.ars/17 |
| 11:30.45 | wired | keep in mind my chromium is running from within a gentoo chroot :P |
| 11:31.29 | rom1dep | look at this : n900 has the fastest browsing experience :) |
| 11:31.33 | rom1dep | (now) |
| 11:31.34 | wired | 112 on second run, lets try @800 |
| 11:31.45 | MiXu- | jacekowski: a linux OS for PC and a modified /etc/network/interfaces iirc |
| 11:32.07 | wired | is there a native maemo chromium build available anywhere? |
| 11:32.26 | wired | 131 @ 800mhz :) |
| 11:32.45 | rom1dep | wired: yepp, check extras-testing, thank to jacekowski :) |
| 11:32.59 | wired | interesting, so i can see the difference with my chrooted one |
| 11:33.01 | wired | :) |
| 11:33.04 | MiXu- | jacekowski: http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking |
| 11:33.14 | SpeedEvil | wired: what is this benchmark? |
| 11:33.26 | wired | SpeedEvil: google's V8 javascript benchmark |
| 11:33.49 | *** join/#maemo mk8 (~torello@ip-212-141.sn1.eutelia.it) |
| 11:33.50 | rom1dep | wired: you got ~ same score as me, just I'm not chrooted.. are you on pr1.2 ? |
| 11:34.13 | wired | rom1dep: no |
| 11:34.23 | *** join/#maemo timeless_mbp (~timeless@net-123.nrpn.net) |
| 11:34.23 | *** join/#maemo timeless_mbp (~timeless@firefox/developer/timeless) |
| 11:34.39 | *** join/#maemo rmoravcik (~rmoravcik@gtsgw.ttc.cz) |
| 11:34.58 | mece | so chromium is the fastest browser on N900 these days? |
| 11:34.59 | rom1dep | wired: so chroot seems not to break perfs at all :) |
| 11:35.21 | wired | well, it shouldn't anyway ;) |
| 11:35.28 | SpeedEvil | unless it means you swap more |
| 11:35.30 | SpeedEvil | which it may |
| 11:35.36 | *** join/#maemo zeq (~s_j_newbu@2a01:348:1e3:0:ca97:9fff:fec3:7dee) |
| 11:35.56 | SpeedEvil | javascript performance is nice - but orthoganol to speed |
| 11:36.19 | rom1dep | mece: looks like, making n900 the fastest mobile tablet ever (at least on the v8 benckmark) â faster than the shiny new iPad :) |
| 11:36.21 | SpeedEvil | speed depends on how fast the user thinks it is, not how fast it is |
| 11:36.40 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.172.0) |
| 11:36.53 | wired | well ipad doesn't have flash |
| 11:36.58 | wired | so you cant really compare them |
| 11:36.59 | wired | :P |
| 11:37.11 | Treibholz | does someone know whether meego will use a webkit-browser or stay with the old gecko? |
| 11:38.05 | mece | rom1dep, how is it at standard speeds then? |
| 11:38.06 | rom1dep | Treibholz: probably use QtWebKit through harmattan... I'm just guessing |
| 11:38.47 | rom1dep | mece: http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2010/04/ipad-review.ars/17 |
| 11:39.13 | rom1dep | mece: and read the scores we previously got wired and me |
| 11:39.43 | mece | 112 was at default speeds? |
| 11:39.46 | mece | pretty cool. |
| 11:40.37 | rom1dep | mece: on v8 18% faster than iPad, 100% faster tan nexus one, 500% faster than iPhone 3Gs |
| 11:40.43 | wired | mm the maemo chromium uses hildon menus, nice |
| 11:40.51 | *** join/#maemo crashanddie_ (~slauwers@60-241-211-180.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 11:40.51 | *** join/#maemo crashanddie_ (~slauwers@Maemo/community/contributor/crashanddie) |
| 11:41.02 | wired | is there a way to scroll in-page? |
| 11:41.17 | rom1dep | wired: use the scrollbar ? |
| 11:41.47 | wired | obviously, i meant without the scrollbar |
| 11:41.54 | SpeedEvil | mece: 7.92 - iceweasel |
| 11:42.19 | wired | the scrollbar is too tiny to use and the edges on the screen are superannoying to use |
| 11:42.59 | *** join/#maemo mag__ (~dottedmag@osl-vps-7.ucd.ie) |
| 11:43.01 | wired | yay flash works too =] |
| 11:43.06 | SpeedEvil | I have installed all-in-one gestures on iceweasel |
| 11:43.08 | SpeedEvil | which works ok |
| 11:43.09 | *** join/#maemo zeq (~s_j_newbu@cpc3-rdng22-2-0-cust536.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 11:43.17 | jacekowski | wired: chrome touch extension |
| 11:43.32 | wired | jacekowski: thanks for a job well done |
| 11:43.33 | wired | :) |
| 11:44.07 | *** join/#maemo mag__ (~dottedmag@altlinux/developer/dottedmag) |
| 11:44.14 | rom1dep | wired: it's not really a "port" of chromium, but a hack to make it compile and run on maemo, I doubt jacekowski has had time to work on gui to make it finger friendly nor if he aims to :) |
| 11:44.38 | jacekowski | aim is to work on gui |
| 11:44.50 | jacekowski | but it's not my full time day job |
| 11:44.52 | wired | well it does use hildon gui elements which my version does not :P |
| 11:44.53 | *** join/#maemo geek00l__ (~geek00l@175.144.175.107) |
| 11:44.53 | lizardo | frals: I'm now playing with barisione 's example... indeed the search results look more "sane" now :D |
| 11:45.37 | rom1dep | jacekowski: do you have feedback from google chromium devs ? It could be an interesting market for them since firefox guys sit on it ? |
| 11:45.42 | wired | i guess i should set up a scratchbox and build stuff for maemo myself :) |
| 11:45.52 | jacekowski | rom1dep: it makes android look bad |
| 11:46.28 | *** join/#maemo Tuco1 (~Tuco1@unaffiliated/tuco) |
| 11:46.37 | barisione | lizardo, frals: and my example also gets phone numbers coming from skype, not only the locally stored ones |
| 11:46.49 | rom1dep | jacekowski: too bad :/ maybe open a git repo somewhere, I'm sure people will be interested in working on that :) |
| 11:47.17 | lizardo | barisione: yes, although for frals' application (fMMS) I believe he will need to filter that somehow... |
| 11:47.50 | frals | barisione, lizardo: for only getting cellnumbers/email - is there any benefit of using the 'pure' osso_abook way? |
| 11:48.00 | jacekowski | nah, git sucks |
| 11:48.03 | jacekowski | i've got svn |
| 11:48.16 | wired | great, with the touch extension its actually usable |
| 11:48.16 | wired | :D |
| 11:48.53 | wired | jacekowski: any easy ways to get all the missing certificates? |
| 11:48.54 | barisione | lizardo, frals: what I mean is that skype gives you the ability to set your own phone number, so your contacts get it for free. that's a normal phone number, so you should be able to send MMSes to it |
| 11:49.06 | wired | although its fun to see google with the scull icon lol |
| 11:49.09 | lizardo | barisione: oh, I see :) |
| 11:49.18 | frals | barisione: oh, thats pretty nifty |
| 11:49.19 | jacekowski | wired: i've not even played with it |
| 11:49.23 | rom1dep | jacekowski: I agree with you ^^ but when you see meego, harmattan, (soon) kde... /o\ |
| 11:49.32 | lizardo | frals: at least in my case, the abook API returned more complete information |
| 11:49.55 | lizardo | barisione: e.g. the osso_abook_contact_get_display_name() function returned useful information |
| 11:50.14 | lizardo | barisione: for the contacts returned through the ebook API, it was returning "No name" sometimes |
| 11:50.14 | frals | lizardo: in my case im only after the contacts UID |
| 11:50.22 | barisione | frals: in general it's faster (stuff could be cached), it should always work (there are a lots of corners cases in which libebook doesn't work properly) and you get better info (for instance the display name could come from IM) |
| 11:50.44 | barisione | lizardo: how were you getting the contact name using the libebook api? |
| 11:50.45 | frals | barisione: ok, thanks for the info :) |
| 11:51.22 | lizardo | barisione: e_contact_get_const (contact, E_CONTACT_FULL_NAME) |
| 11:51.24 | *** join/#maemo pablo2 (~pablo@189.2.128.130) |
| 11:51.36 | barisione | ah yeah, that returns only the full name |
| 11:51.44 | lizardo | barisione: (note I'm totally newbie on abook/ebook APIs) |
| 11:51.45 | barisione | but the display name could come from other things |
| 11:52.08 | barisione | lizardo: did you write the example in http://wiki.maemo.org/PyMaemo/Accessing_APIs_without_Python_bindings#Accessing_Items_in_a_GList ? |
| 11:52.11 | frals | barisione: how does osso_abook_contact_get_display_name() decide which name to display? |
| 11:52.25 | lizardo | barisione: correct... in some of my contacts that field was empty, but abook seems to always return the expected name |
| 11:52.33 | barisione | frals: magic and settings |
| 11:52.52 | lizardo | barisione: yes, feel free to suggest improvements :) |
| 11:53.06 | frals | barisione: ok :) |
| 11:53.13 | barisione | frals: you can choose in the UI if you want âfirst lastâ, âlast, firstâ or ânicknameâ and the default setting is different in different languages |
| 11:53.20 | jacekowski | what was default user password? |
| 11:53.34 | mece | does the N900 get a "fail" on the first test like droid and iphone? |
| 11:53.52 | jacekowski | mece: no |
| 11:53.59 | barisione | frals: so libosso-abook tries to get the display name from the local contact based on the settings, if it fails from the IM contact and if it fails uses another name (like the nickname instead of the full name) |
| 11:54.03 | mece | figured :) |
| 11:54.45 | barisione | frals, lizardo: also, vcards have a full name fiels (FN) and a name field (N). only one of them could be specified or both |
| 11:55.00 | barisione | libosso-abook should use N and I think fallback on FN if needed |
| 11:55.02 | *** join/#maemo Ryback_ (~ulisses@enlightenment/developer/ryback) |
| 11:55.08 | frals | barisione: ok.. guess ill start using that instead of whatever python-evolution does when it does get_name() on a contact as that sometimes is empty :) |
| 11:55.43 | barisione | lizardo: g_list_nth should not be used as it's slow (it has to go through the full list every time) |
| 11:56.39 | barisione | lizardo: with glists you do what I do in my C example |
| 11:57.28 | *** join/#maemo Pavel (~pavel@pool-173-75-5-189.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 11:57.43 | lizardo | barisione: ok, will change that as well , thanks for the tip |
| 11:57.49 | barisione | np |
| 11:58.12 | lizardo | "ctypes: connecting Python and C people" |
| 11:58.49 | *** join/#maemo C-S-B (~csb@89.243.176.249) |
| 11:59.14 | frals | :D |
| 11:59.38 | rom1dep | must leave, bye ! |
| 11:59.41 | *** part/#maemo rom1dep (~rom1dep@unaffiliated/rom1dep) |
| 12:00.16 | *** join/#maemo timeless_mbp (~timeless@192.100.124.156) |
| 12:00.16 | *** join/#maemo timeless_mbp (~timeless@firefox/developer/timeless) |
| 12:01.39 | *** join/#maemo Jax (~cptjack@5e00020c.bb.sky.com) |
| 12:06.04 | *** join/#maemo carloscesa (~carlos@189.2.193.178) |
| 12:08.59 | *** join/#maemo Dialekt (~Dialekt@cpe-75-85-113-244.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 12:09.42 | *** join/#maemo geek00l__ (~geek00l@175.144.175.107) |
| 12:09.45 | *** join/#maemo Openfree (~Openfree`@222.65.29.213) |
| 12:10.30 | *** join/#maemo teevee (~floed@79.102.8.49) |
| 12:10.55 | *** join/#maemo SystemParadox (~simon@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust28.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 12:11.39 | SystemParadox | where's the USB networking module for N900? I can't find any usb-network-modules package |
| 12:12.06 | *** join/#maemo thauta (~thautako@tuomi.oulu.fi) |
| 12:12.20 | *** join/#maemo _Lucretia_ (~munkee@pdpc/supporter/active/lucretia) |
| 12:12.37 | *** join/#maemo halves (~higor@189.124.74.14) |
| 12:13.15 | jacekowski | mad-developer |
| 12:13.24 | *** join/#maemo dieb_ (~dieb@enlightenment/developer/dieb) |
| 12:15.32 | MohammadAG | wow the chrome on the battery cover is black |
| 12:15.46 | MohammadAG | it's getting scratched |
| 12:15.54 | *** join/#maemo user__ (~Speedevil@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 12:15.55 | MohammadAG | that's cheap... |
| 12:17.17 | *** join/#maemo peetah (~peetah@cha92-12-88-162-171-185.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:17.25 | *** join/#maemo C-S-B-N900 (~C-S-B@78.147.204.134) |
| 12:19.30 | *** join/#maemo alecrim (~alecrim@189.2.128.130) |
| 12:19.49 | *** join/#maemo mfinkle (~mfinkle@wm280hi-109.102.Maroon.akn.ca) |
| 12:21.15 | SystemParadox | argh what- the maemo-pc-connectivity package doesn't exist either? what's going on? |
| 12:22.04 | *** join/#maemo promulo (~romulo@189.71.119.169) |
| 12:22.34 | *** join/#maemo C-S-B (~csb@78.147.204.134) |
| 12:23.09 | *** join/#maemo Cazou (~detlev@host-213-213-221-24.brutele.be) |
| 12:23.58 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.168.94) |
| 12:25.02 | *** join/#maemo briglia (~briglia@189.2.128.130) |
| 12:25.08 | *** join/#maemo alecrim (~alecrim@189.2.128.130) |
| 12:25.16 | SystemParadox | jacekowski, was the mad-developer something for me? |
| 12:25.22 | SystemParadox | isn't that PC side |
| 12:25.30 | *** join/#maemo jcrawford (~jcrawford@unaffiliated/idle0ne) |
| 12:26.28 | *** join/#maemo Meizirkki (~Meizirkki@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-2.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 12:26.29 | *** join/#maemo mikeos (~mikeos@unaffiliated/mikeos) |
| 12:27.54 | *** join/#maemo emptyness47 (~emptyness@207-126-122-147.ip.openhosting.com) |
| 12:28.49 | *** join/#maemo Gadgetoid_mbp (~phil@84.92.26.220) |
| 12:32.29 | *** join/#maemo pidusad (~gandalf@121.242.23.197) |
| 12:32.59 | *** join/#maemo fqhuy (~huy@133.64.1.254) |
| 12:33.53 | *** join/#maemo z4chh (~zach@dhcp-128-194-74-49.resnet.tamu.edu) |
| 12:35.57 | jacekowski | SystemParadox: it's phone side |
| 12:36.37 | jacekowski | why internet in scratchbox is not working |
| 12:36.49 | jacekowski | fresh install |
| 12:37.00 | jacekowski | Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/dists/fremantle/sdk/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org' |
| 12:37.09 | jacekowski | and my /etc/resolv.conf is correct |
| 12:37.34 | SpeedEvil | does ping www.google.com work? |
| 12:37.38 | Anss| | what about restarting? |
| 12:37.58 | mikeos | jacekowski: be sure to be editing the proper /etc/resolv.conf |
| 12:38.00 | jacekowski | there is no ping in scratchbox |
| 12:38.00 | SystemParadox | jacekowski, I can't find any of these packages, no maddeveloper, no usb-network-modules, no maemo-pc-connectivity. Where are they? |
| 12:38.08 | jacekowski | SystemParadox: mad-developer |
| 12:38.17 | jacekowski | SystemParadox: in extras-devel or extras-testing |
| 12:38.24 | Anss| | jacekowski, maybe wget then |
| 12:38.33 | jacekowski | ok |
| 12:38.38 | jacekowski | mhm |
| 12:38.42 | jacekowski | wget is working fine |
| 12:38.47 | alterego | Still no PR1.2 crazy, |
| 12:38.52 | zeq | resolv.conf just uses localhost, the nameserver settings are dynamicly stored in /var/run by dnsmasq |
| 12:39.17 | alterego | Anyone successfully done a dist-upgrade using devel repo on their N900? ^.^ |
| 12:39.21 | *** join/#maemo gandalf__ (~gandalf@121.242.23.197) |
| 12:39.31 | Anss| | https |
| 12:39.41 | jacekowski | so what's wrong with apt? |
| 12:39.45 | *** join/#maemo jcrawford (~jcrawford@unaffiliated/idle0ne) |
| 12:40.00 | Anss| | jacekowski, is it https or http |
| 12:40.00 | jacekowski | and it's not timeout |
| 12:40.08 | jacekowski | Anss|: no |
| 12:40.25 | jacekowski | Anss|: that shouldn't cause that error anyways |
| 12:40.49 | SystemParadox | is extras-testing safe to enable? |
| 12:41.12 | jacekowski | safer than flying a plane |
| 12:41.39 | SystemParadox | I can fly a plane. It's still safer? |
| 12:41.56 | *** join/#maemo Clickety (~click@s55901cdb.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 12:42.01 | jacekowski | yes |
| 12:42.20 | jacekowski | there was huge plane crash 2 days ago |
| 12:42.28 | ShadowJK | but can you fly a helicopter |
| 12:43.14 | Scelt | jacekowski: libxss installation fails |
| 12:43.43 | *** join/#maemo crashanddie_ (~slauwers@Maemo/community/contributor/crashanddie) |
| 12:44.02 | jacekowski | Scelt: fails on what? |
| 12:44.04 | jacekowski | error |
| 12:44.20 | jacekowski | is it the one from extras-devel repo? |
| 12:44.29 | Scelt | jacekowski: error code 1. unpack. trying to overwrite libxs.so.1.0.0 |
| 12:44.33 | Scelt | devel |
| 12:44.45 | jacekowski | uninstall previous version |
| 12:44.57 | jacekowski | the one you probably have from jacekowski.org/maemo/ |
| 12:45.02 | Scelt | yeah |
| 12:45.03 | Scelt | okay |
| 12:45.09 | jacekowski | great |
| 12:45.10 | *** join/#maemo lardman (~simon@78.145.198.205) |
| 12:45.12 | jacekowski | E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/repository.maemo.org_extras-devel_dists_fremantle_free_binary-armel_Packages (1) |
| 12:45.25 | *** join/#maemo lardman (~simon@Maemo/community/contributor/lardman) |
| 12:45.42 | lardman | hi chaps |
| 12:45.44 | *** join/#maemo mfinkle (~mfinkle@mozca02.ca.mozilla.com) |
| 12:47.52 | crashanddie_ | hey brah |
| 12:48.44 | *** join/#maemo SWFu64 (~SWFu@unaffiliated/swfu) |
| 12:49.32 | *** join/#maemo ddweerasiri (~denis@202.129.234.231) |
| 12:49.34 | lardman | hi crashanddie_ |
| 12:49.45 | Scelt | frals: fmms doesn't use local time settings, it gives time always in UTC |
| 12:50.25 | ShadowJK | excellent |
| 12:51.05 | ShadowJK | I mean if it gives the correct time in utc in all cirumstances, it beats my s60 nokia phon |
| 12:51.37 | Scelt | well, not sure but at least it gives UTC in mine even I'm using EET |
| 12:51.45 | lardman | anyone know how the hold down for right click is handled in Qt? |
| 12:52.10 | *** join/#maemo bidossessi (~bidossess@41.221.23.177) |
| 12:53.18 | *** join/#maemo wenkat (~venkat@221.134.118.142) |
| 12:53.28 | jacekowski | http://gadzetomania.pl/images/2010/04/ipad_fail1.jpg |
| 12:54.52 | slingr | old news |
| 12:55.50 | haltdef | haha |
| 12:56.52 | *** part/#maemo teevee (~floed@79.102.8.49) |
| 12:59.03 | *** join/#maemo dracflamloc (dracflamlo@12.71.4.50) |
| 12:59.20 | lardman | Could someone give me a hint as to what to look at for Qt copy to clipboard functionality, or do I use the standard osso libs? |
| 12:59.35 | Anss| | have you guys check the dui gitorious lately? |
| 13:00.39 | *** join/#maemo jeez_ (~jeez@200.184.118.130) |
| 13:01.45 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.168.94) |
| 13:04.07 | *** join/#maemo WikierOFF (~wikier@cm-staticIP-85-152-18-129.telecable.es) |
| 13:04.28 | crashanddie_ | lardman: right click |
| 13:04.57 | *** join/#maemo avee_ (~avee@vps527.directvps.nl) |
| 13:04.58 | *** join/#maemo E0x (~moya@133.87.3.196.l.sta.codetel.net.do) |
| 13:05.04 | E0x | morning ppl |
| 13:07.12 | lizardo | frals: ok, I just made a new ctypes example based on barisione's code: http://pastebin.com/Wgdr2Rkj |
| 13:07.36 | lizardo | I'll update the wiki with it |
| 13:08.31 | *** part/#maemo Khult (~kahult@gw.digia.com) |
| 13:08.43 | barisione | lizardo: why hash(osso_ctx)? |
| 13:09.23 | lizardo | barisione: it is how you get a GObject's C address in ctypes |
| 13:09.46 | barisione | ah |
| 13:09.47 | barisione | weird :) |
| 13:10.04 | lizardo | barisione: http://faq.pygtk.org/index.py?req=show&file=faq23.041.htp |
| 13:10.24 | barisione | lizardo: your glist(addr) seems to break if addr is null |
| 13:10.35 | *** join/#maemo Aranel (~Aranel@unaffiliated/aranel) |
| 13:10.48 | barisione | also, I'm not sure how it can work |
| 13:10.50 | lizardo | barisione: yes, but ... works :) it happens that pygobject uses the underlying C object address as the Python object hash |
| 13:11.33 | lizardo | barisione: yes, I was assuming the caller checks for the null pointer beforing calling it |
| 13:11.37 | crashanddie_ | lizardo: you need to check the value of addr before passing it on to .from_address() |
| 13:11.51 | barisione | lizardo: NULL is a valid empty list in C |
| 13:12.05 | lizardo | barisione: in glib, you mean :) |
| 13:12.10 | barisione | yes :) |
| 13:12.21 | barisione | well, usually lists are implemented like that in C |
| 13:12.41 | lizardo | barisione: sure , I can add a simple check that make the iterator return nothing |
| 13:12.47 | *** join/#maemo mardi__ (~mardi_@95.141.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 13:12.50 | barisione | lizardo: also, won't l be the same at every iteration as you always get it from the address? |
| 13:12.51 | lizardo | so it becomes more "C friendly" |
| 13:12.57 | lardman | twiddles thumbs while SDK upgrades |
| 13:12.57 | *** join/#maemo thauta (~thautako@tuomi.oulu.fi) |
| 13:13.20 | lizardo | barisione: no, because of the yield operator |
| 13:13.47 | lizardo | barisione: http://docs.python.org/tutorial/classes.html#generators |
| 13:13.59 | lizardo | barisione: it's a neat Python trick :) |
| 13:14.32 | lizardo | (it also exists in other languanges , but usually is a kind of strange concept to C programmers) |
| 13:15.08 | *** join/#maemo zeq (~s_j_newbu@2a01:348:1e3:0:480d:e3ff:fe39:3b7e) |
| 13:15.29 | barisione | lizardo: I know about it :P but never really used python after yield was added to the language |
| 13:15.50 | barisione | lizardo: but I don't understand how yield changes stuff here |
| 13:16.22 | lizardo | barisione: it should work because the yield is inside a while loop |
| 13:16.44 | lizardo | barisione: so it returns the item's on each iterations and saves the context |
| 13:16.44 | barisione | lizardo: yes, but you overwrite l at every iteration |
| 13:16.55 | lizardo | barisione: no... because of the generator concept |
| 13:17.06 | lizardo | barisione: on next glist() call, it jumps to the saved context |
| 13:17.08 | *** join/#maemo hardaker (~hardaker@mail.hardakers.net) |
| 13:17.28 | lizardo | barisione: it's kind like C's longjump (IIRC) |
| 13:17.45 | *** join/#maemo flavioribeiro (~Flavio@200.97.67.57) |
| 13:17.53 | barisione | but addr remains the same at every iteration? |
| 13:17.55 | barisione | or not? |
| 13:19.49 | lizardo | barisione: e.g. , http://pastebin.com/YE6qRFBi |
| 13:19.53 | kamui | d00d |
| 13:19.57 | kamui | I gotta port crossfire |
| 13:20.00 | kamui | the client |
| 13:20.01 | kamui | :) |
| 13:20.12 | kamui | I haven't played that in ages, just started thinknig about it randomly today |
| 13:20.18 | lardman | bug 5422, that's good news I see just posted |
| 13:20.20 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5422 Disconnect inactive internet connections after idle timeout |
| 13:20.44 | lizardo | barisione: oh, I see what you mean :) |
| 13:20.56 | lizardo | barisione: it's a bug :) |
| 13:21.03 | lizardo | it should be "l" |
| 13:21.05 | *** join/#maemo FlavioFerreiraBR (~FlavioFer@187.62.149.2) |
| 13:21.06 | hrw | bug 6933 |
| 13:21.07 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6933 Alarm times are shown wrong |
| 13:21.09 | *** part/#maemo SmilingShark (~Smilingsh@93-62-4-64.ip20.fastwebnet.it) |
| 13:21.31 | lizardo | barisione: happens when you read your own code for a long time... |
| 13:21.37 | barisione | :) |
| 13:22.12 | barisione | lizardo: yeah, you should have: |
| 13:22.18 | barisione | l = addr |
| 13:22.21 | barisione | while l: |
| 13:22.28 | lizardo | yep :) |
| 13:22.33 | barisione | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:22.39 | barisione | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:22.45 | barisione | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.35 | *** join/#maemo tonikitoo (~tonikitoo@189.2.128.130) |
| 13:24.07 | lizardo | barisione: tks again :) I'll update the wiki pages asap |
| 13:24.25 | *** join/#maemo SWFu64 (~SWFu@unaffiliated/swfu) |
| 13:25.26 | noobmonk3y | blames MohammadAG for the world shortage of pistachio nuts... which is in turn causing bored people to spit randomly in different directions instead of spitooning the nut shells.... Which in turn will cause world flooding due to the in-balance of spit.... poor old MohammadAG. ;) |
| 13:25.29 | noobmonk3y | right back to work..... |
| 13:25.50 | *** join/#maemo psybermonkey (~psybermon@115.134.81.254) |
| 13:26.20 | lizardo | barisione, frals : ok... try #2: http://pastebin.com/5P1t0GVs |
| 13:28.23 | *** join/#maemo spencer (~spencer@CPE001c1011c8a5-CM00152fb928e2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 13:28.53 | barisione | lizardo: seems fine but I'm not an expert of ctypes |
| 13:29.14 | *** join/#maemo TimJascha (~Tim@dslb-084-062-201-047.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:29.35 | lizardo | barisione: neither am I :) I enjoy playing with it though, I can get quick prototypes much faster than plain C |
| 13:30.07 | lizardo | s/quick// |
| 13:30.12 | spencer | got a question on dbus mce request?? i somehow didn't get the proxy object from dbus_g_proxy_new_for_name.. and the error message showed nothing.. any ideas? |
| 13:30.42 | lizardo | (C is usually faster in performance) |
| 13:35.13 | *** join/#maemo esaym153 (~esaym153@cpe-24-174-176-203.satx.res.rr.com) |
| 13:37.32 | *** join/#maemo bidossessi (~bidossess@41.221.23.177) |
| 13:39.16 | Scelt | fy nokia |
| 13:39.30 | Scelt | where's pr1.2? where's ovi maps 3? |
| 13:40.55 | wired | who cares |
| 13:41.00 | wired | my n900 rocks as is :P |
| 13:41.01 | *** join/#maemo ssvb (~ssvb___@a88-112-120-50.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 13:41.18 | RST38h | directs Scelt to a little blackened hole in the ground |
| 13:41.42 | Scelt | RST38h: I don't wanna see your black holes |
| 13:42.05 | *** join/#maemo pupnik (~pupnik@unaffiliated/pupnik) |
| 13:42.08 | *** join/#maemo andre__ (~andre@Maemo/community/bugmaster/andre) |
| 13:43.03 | *** join/#maemo geek00l__ (~geek00l@175.144.170.205) |
| 13:43.29 | haltdef | wired, agree |
| 13:43.36 | *** join/#maemo FIQ (~FIQ@unaffiliated/fiq) |
| 13:43.48 | squidd | ovi maps 3 would be nice tho |
| 13:44.00 | spencer | got a question on dbus mce request?? i somehow didn't get the proxy object from dbus_g_proxy_new_for_name.. and the error message showed nothing.. any ideas? |
| 13:44.04 | wired | and a bigger default root partition as wel :P |
| 13:44.08 | wired | +l |
| 13:44.13 | squidd | root partition is fine for me :) |
| 13:44.36 | *** join/#maemo Khertan (~d4eabb96@gateway/web/freenode/x-acgbyiytgpqncdqp) |
| 13:44.56 | Khertan | Heya ! |
| 13:45.18 | squidd | maybe they could do something with battery usage too. I mean, I barely get thru day :( |
| 13:45.19 | Khertan | Someone have try the pyside example ? particulary the syntax hilighter example ? it s freeze/loop each time something is written in the QText widget ... |
| 13:46.30 | wired | squidd: battery is an issue yeah, but if you're careful it works ok... wifi switcher helps a lot |
| 13:48.03 | squidd | yah |
| 13:48.39 | *** join/#maemo zeq (~s_j_newbu@2a01:348:1e3:0:480d:e3ff:fe39:3b7e) |
| 13:48.55 | floffe | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.59 | Khertan | have a powerfull Samsung n130 which is in fact a good charger for n900 (usb charge) :) |
| 13:48.59 | *** join/#maemo sergio_ (~sergio@cpc2-camd3-0-0-cust349.hari.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:49.14 | *** join/#maemo edisson (~edisson@189.2.128.130) |
| 13:49.27 | squidd | I think I need to try using only 2G tomorrow in work since I can use wlan there. Maybe it helps when it doesnt jump between 2G-3G |
| 13:50.07 | squidd | 2G+wlan shouldnt use that much battery? |
| 13:50.23 | *** join/#maemo Cervajz (~Cervajz@opensuse/member/Cervajz) |
| 13:50.28 | ShadowJK | as long as the wlan access point isn't crap, yeah |
| 13:50.41 | squidd | well, thats the problem aswell :) |
| 13:51.04 | squidd | since sometimes I need to go between two different wlan access points |
| 13:51.14 | squidd | one doesnt cover the whole place so i got two \o& |
| 13:51.17 | squidd | \o/* |
| 13:51.38 | wired | its really hard to not drain the battery with wifi... |
| 13:51.40 | *** join/#maemo etrunko (~edulima@187.106.19.157) |
| 13:52.19 | ShadowJK | mine sirs like 24 hours or something on wifi with xchat open |
| 13:52.24 | squidd | It shouldnt drain it as fast as with 2G-3G jumping tho |
| 13:53.30 | ShadowJK | 3g uses about 20 times more power than noncrap wifi for the always-online case with frequent but low amounts of data transfer |
| 13:53.56 | squidd | yay |
| 13:54.23 | squidd | so 2G + wifi should be good for me when I'm at work |
| 13:54.29 | squidd | need to try it tomorow |
| 13:54.40 | squidd | +r |
| 13:55.19 | *** join/#maemo sergio__ (~sergio@cpc2-camd3-0-0-cust349.hari.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:55.42 | ShadowJK | data on 2g should be lots better too |
| 13:55.55 | *** join/#maemo javispedro (~javier@69.Red-80-32-146.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:56.03 | squidd | ya, but its so damn slow :( |
| 13:56.19 | *** join/#maemo rsalveti (~rsalveti@200.184.118.130) |
| 13:56.21 | lcuk | depends what you are doing of course |
| 13:56.27 | squidd | works well for ssh+irssi but for browsing it sucks |
| 13:56.33 | lcuk | irc over 2g works well |
| 13:56.42 | squidd | it does, yes |
| 13:56.50 | squidd | used it today |
| 13:57.23 | MohammadAG | wants a static IP for his 3G/2G connection |
| 13:57.49 | ShadowJK | I dont browse that many sites that would be light enough that cpu use would be a smaller part than the transfer over edge |
| 13:58.08 | Khertan | want that isp remove limitation on things other than http and https on his 3G/2G connection |
| 13:58.18 | noobmonk3y | blinks |
| 13:58.29 | javispedro | morning gentlemen |
| 13:58.40 | ShadowJK | but for gpodder 3g rocks, 5MBit/s! |
| 13:58.51 | *** join/#maemo hannesw (~hannes@public-wlan.oe3.sil.at) |
| 13:59.09 | ShadowJK | wikipedia: no difference between edge/3g/wifi... layout is so heavy |
| 13:59.34 | jacekowski | ehh |
| 13:59.42 | jacekowski | just lost all hope |
| 14:00.23 | jacekowski | i just found web page where somebody packed my chrome build and clams ownership of it |
| 14:00.26 | jacekowski | claims* |
| 14:01.02 | squidd | thats cool, isn't it :D |
| 14:02.40 | *** join/#maemo bleeter_ (~bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 14:03.04 | jacekowski | he will regret it |
| 14:03.23 | squidd | good |
| 14:03.55 | javispedro | will you use a hidden virical jacekowski license term? |
| 14:04.00 | javispedro | to sue him into oblivion? |
| 14:04.31 | jacekowski | nah |
| 14:04.40 | wired | lol |
| 14:04.41 | jacekowski | i've got better ways of punishing people |
| 14:05.46 | *** join/#maemo keesj (~keesj@ip49-193-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 14:06.03 | *** join/#maemo mardi__ (~mardi_@95.141.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 14:06.45 | kamui | jacekowski, what site |
| 14:06.55 | jacekowski | it's polish site |
| 14:08.05 | spencer | got a question on dbus mce request?? i somehow didn't get the proxy object from dbus_g_proxy_new_for_name.. and the error message showed nothing.. any ideas? |
| 14:08.16 | squidd | jacekowski: you just pwn them to oblivion? |
| 14:08.38 | wired | jacekowski: i'll set up a scratchbox later, perhaps I could help with this :) |
| 14:09.01 | jacekowski | nah, i'll just ddos that site |
| 14:09.10 | jacekowski | week of downtime will do |
| 14:09.28 | squidd | that evil |
| 14:09.29 | jacekowski | it's primitve |
| 14:09.46 | *** join/#maemo jayabharath (~a0866114@nat/ti/x-eatustsnqkbqwmrq) |
| 14:10.02 | *** join/#maemo z4chh (~zach@nat-165-91-15-214.tamulink.tamu.edu) |
| 14:10.47 | wired | for some reason the caps lock is always on when typing in in-page textfields in chromium |
| 14:11.14 | jacekowski | i know |
| 14:11.37 | *** join/#maemo smaug___ (~chatzilla@cs181150024.pp.htv.fi) |
| 14:11.42 | jacekowski | but i have to rebuild it with debugging information to fix it |
| 14:11.50 | jacekowski | and i can't use autobuilder for it |
| 14:12.13 | *** join/#maemo geek00l__ (~geek00l@175.144.170.205) |
| 14:15.37 | *** join/#maemo SWFu64 (~SWFu@unaffiliated/swfu) |
| 14:16.20 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.171.157) |
| 14:16.23 | *** join/#maemo MohammadAG_ (~MohammadA@62.219.120.20) |
| 14:24.33 | *** join/#maemo eMHa (~mh@212.144.117.125) |
| 14:25.24 | *** join/#maemo trofi (~slyfox@178.125.2.127) |
| 14:25.25 | *** join/#maemo zeq1 (~s_j_newbu@2a01:348:1e3:0:887e:f1ff:fed8:6f50) |
| 14:26.15 | *** join/#maemo pupnik_ (~pupnik@unaffiliated/pupnik) |
| 14:27.47 | zeq1 | OpenVPN works if you need/want full connectivity over 2G/3G. I'm about to create a bugzilla entry with the fixes to get it working with redirect-gateway and dnsmasq. There's still an issue when the connection goes down or switches to/from wifi needing openvpn to be restarted though.. |
| 14:31.14 | *** join/#maemo willer_ (~willer@189.2.128.130) |
| 14:33.26 | wired | zeq1: you can easily create a bash script to monitor that |
| 14:34.12 | E0x | what i need fro create widget ( skill , software , etc ) |
| 14:34.56 | lcuk | E0x, large amounts of etc |
| 14:34.59 | lcuk | where etc = bacon |
| 14:35.17 | Treibholz | and eggs |
| 14:35.35 | E0x | heh |
| 14:36.05 | *** join/#maemo baraujo (~Bruno@189.2.128.130) |
| 14:36.13 | crashanddie_ | 'night all |
| 14:36.14 | E0x | lcuk: i am look for do my baby step in dev in my n900 so i think is a easy one |
| 14:36.40 | crashanddie_ | lcuk: I saw an interview about a guy who did everything with bacon |
| 14:36.50 | zeq1 | wired: that's true, do you know if there's a suitable hook/event to trigger on network (re-)connections? |
| 14:37.06 | crashanddie_ | lcuk: bacon coke, bacon icecream, bacon pasta, bacon cheese, bacon fries, bacon mustard, bacon ketchup |
| 14:37.15 | jacekowski | bacon bacon? |
| 14:37.48 | crashanddie_ | then there was fried bacon, wrapped in bacon, wrapped around a sausage, stuffed in a chicken, wrapped in bacon. |
| 14:37.49 | wired | zeq1: there probably is, but im not aware of it :) |
| 14:38.07 | wired | zeq1: you could go simple and use ifconfig to monitor which interface is up and its ip |
| 14:38.13 | lcuk | baconaisse on your bacon sandwich |
| 14:38.23 | crashanddie_ | yeah but baconaise is a classic |
| 14:38.24 | lcuk | mmmmm |
| 14:38.38 | lcuk | E0x, widgets are a harder class |
| 14:38.44 | lcuk | for beginner to grasp |
| 14:38.45 | crashanddie_ | anyway, later |
| 14:38.53 | E0x | lcuk: oh |
| 14:38.57 | zeq1 | polling would't be good for battery life though |
| 14:39.47 | zeq1 | I think dbus is probably the way to go |
| 14:39.49 | SpeedEvil | Polling can actually be very light |
| 14:39.53 | SpeedEvil | while true do |
| 14:39.57 | SpeedEvil | sleep 60 |
| 14:40.01 | SpeedEvil | if ... |
| 14:40.08 | SpeedEvil | is surprisingly light on battery |
| 14:40.12 | E0x | lcuk: any recomendation ? |
| 14:40.28 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.171.157) |
| 14:40.34 | lcuk | yes, try some hello worlds with python |
| 14:40.40 | *** join/#maemo mikeos_ (~mikeos@unaffiliated/mikeos) |
| 14:40.52 | lcuk | see how you feel without spending tonnes of time setting up much |
| 14:41.05 | SpeedEvil | E0x: you can do useful widgets with only awk or shell. with command-line-execution widget |
| 14:41.23 | zeq1 | I suppose that would't be too bad, but it would be better to have it respond instantly to network reconfigurations |
| 14:41.29 | SpeedEvil | I've got one widget with the name 'dim' - that when pressed executes echo > ... |
| 14:41.31 | E0x | SpeedEvil: yes i was thinking in something like that , but using ruby |
| 14:42.36 | zeq1 | I'll do some more digging |
| 14:43.02 | Treibholz | E0x: I dont't think, there are ruby-bindings (yet) |
| 14:43.14 | E0x | :( |
| 14:43.17 | Treibholz | as there is no ruby in the default-repositories |
| 14:43.23 | *** join/#maemo sttwister (~sttwister@81.18.92.10) |
| 14:43.34 | SpeedEvil | you've also got to think about library footprint |
| 14:43.42 | SpeedEvil | Sure - your ruby app might be a small one. |
| 14:43.42 | Treibholz | E0x: use python (thats more beautifull anyway) |
| 14:44.01 | SpeedEvil | But nothing on the device uses the ruby interpreter, libraries, or ... |
| 14:44.11 | SpeedEvil | So it might use an additional 20M - say - of memory. |
| 14:44.17 | E0x | ok |
| 14:44.20 | SpeedEvil | and take another 2s to start |
| 14:44.30 | *** join/#maemo spencer (~spencer@CPE001c1011c8a5-CM00152fb928e2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 14:44.39 | *** join/#maemo aakashd (~aakashd@nat/mozilla/x-mvajajdayfnccyyq) |
| 14:44.46 | SpeedEvil | Compared to something written in python or perl |
| 14:44.59 | spencer | can anyone help me on a dbus mce request question?? |
| 14:45.09 | SpeedEvil | spencer: shoot |
| 14:45.46 | spencer | i can't get the proxy when i call dbus_g_proxy_new_for_name, and the GError object returned NULL.. |
| 14:50.28 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@81.18.92.10) |
| 14:52.00 | spencer | any idea? |
| 14:53.11 | *** join/#maemo The_Tall1 (~A@stgt-5f718f0f.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 14:54.06 | spencer | SpeedEvil, any clue? |
| 14:56.43 | SpeedEvil | nope, sorry, never used dbus much |
| 14:57.27 | dmj726_n900 | pidgin seems to think links are being pressed sometimes when they aren't. |
| 14:58.40 | *** join/#maemo romaxa (romaxa@a91-153-143-192.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 15:01.35 | javispedro | mikkov: there? |
| 15:03.34 | *** join/#maemo Cazou (~detlev@host-213-213-221-24.brutele.be) |
| 15:03.47 | *** join/#maemo mardi__ (~mardi_@95.141.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 15:04.37 | *** join/#maemo panaggio (~panaggio@recod-gw.ic.unicamp.br) |
| 15:05.05 | *** join/#maemo kik88 (~kik@92.33.137.237) |
| 15:09.47 | *** join/#maemo Funnyface (~user734@106-27-9.connect.netcom.no) |
| 15:11.40 | nidO | C-S-B: around? |
| 15:11.47 | C-S-B | yup |
| 15:11.48 | C-S-B | ;) |
| 15:12.15 | nidO | ukdedicated.com seem to be hiring if you're still looking |
| 15:12.24 | C-S-B | awesome. |
| 15:12.40 | C-S-B | do they have a jobs email adress? |
| 15:13.19 | nidO | no idea on any requirements etc as I cant find a public ad for the position, I have their techs on msn though and theyve got "we're hiring - msg me" in their names, but are afk ;) |
| 15:15.08 | C-S-B | well if you can grab an email address I'd love to submit my cv at least |
| 15:15.10 | C-S-B | :) |
| 15:15.40 | nidO | you'd probably be best mailing craig@flump.net |
| 15:16.02 | C-S-B | who's that? |
| 15:16.22 | nidO | flump.net == ukdedicated.com, 2 brands of the same business |
| 15:17.03 | *** join/#maemo Funnyface (~user734@106-27-9.connect.netcom.no) |
| 15:19.24 | C-S-B | Thanks nidO |
| 15:19.25 | *** join/#maemo Openfree (~Openfree`@222.65.29.213) |
| 15:19.28 | C-S-B | Email sent. |
| 15:19.58 | C-S-B | I need to head out and collect the gf who started her job today. :) |
| 15:20.14 | nidO | lucky her ;) |
| 15:25.49 | *** join/#maemo LoCusF (~asuomala@cs.uku.fi) |
| 15:26.58 | *** join/#maemo vpoluceno (~vpoluceno@189.75.44.17) |
| 15:33.31 | *** join/#maemo t-tan (~tanner@f052078031.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 15:35.36 | *** join/#maemo sunil (~sthaha@esprx02x.nokia.com) |
| 15:35.38 | *** join/#maemo dougt (~dougt@nat/mozilla/x-oryeahqzfzidytqe) |
| 15:38.05 | *** join/#maemo z4chh (~zach@nat-165-91-15-214.tamulink.tamu.edu) |
| 15:38.13 | *** join/#maemo geek00l__ (~geek00l@175.144.173.238) |
| 15:39.14 | *** join/#maemo zeq1 (~s_j_newbu@2a01:348:1e3:0:f0fa:1aff:fede:3563) |
| 15:41.10 | *** join/#maemo celesteh (~celesteh@sblug/member/celesteh) |
| 15:42.00 | *** join/#maemo flavioribeiro (~Flavio@200.97.67.57) |
| 15:43.29 | *** join/#maemo moza (~moza@h87-241-123-38.dynamic.se.alltele.net) |
| 15:44.21 | *** join/#maemo Abhinav1 (~Abhinav1@unaffiliated/abhinav1) |
| 15:44.30 | *** join/#maemo Flyser (~flyser@unaffiliated/flyser) |
| 15:45.09 | *** join/#maemo itdock (~harvey@149.28.3.10) |
| 15:47.15 | *** join/#maemo PhonicUK (~PhonicUK@95.149.124.153) |
| 15:47.21 | PhonicUK | hey all |
| 15:47.33 | MohammadAG_ | X-Fade, ping |
| 15:48.20 | PhonicUK | anyone know of an app that will announce when mobile reception is/isn't available? |
| 15:49.55 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.174.49) |
| 15:51.00 | *** join/#maemo sheepbat (~lev3k@c-98-238-227-32.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 15:52.38 | *** join/#maemo MadViking (~user@gprs-prointernet-ffa1c200-135.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 15:53.07 | *** join/#maemo venkat (~venkat@59.164.232.87) |
| 15:54.13 | *** join/#maemo bidossessi (~bidossess@41.221.23.177) |
| 15:54.23 | *** join/#maemo sopsnips (~nips@173-14-10-169-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 15:55.04 | *** join/#maemo timh (~timhardy@84.12.242.186) |
| 16:00.39 | *** join/#maemo flavioribeiro (~Flavio@200.97.67.57) |
| 16:01.15 | peetah | hi all |
| 16:01.21 | *** part/#maemo sopsnips (~nips@173-14-10-169-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 16:01.26 | *** join/#maemo ssvb (~ssvb___@a88-112-120-50.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 16:01.33 | peetah | anyone aware of a way to use something like localepurge with maemo ? |
| 16:01.37 | *** join/#maemo hannesw (~hannes@public-wlan.oe3.sil.at) |
| 16:01.39 | *** join/#maemo khertan (~507dafc5@gateway/web/freenode/x-oehntouvjovisrlp) |
| 16:01.59 | khertan | Hi again |
| 16:02.06 | peetah | I mean, it uses docpurge by default, so why not localepurge ? |
| 16:02.21 | khertan | someone have an idea why this code doesn t hilight syntax on maemo ? |
| 16:02.23 | khertan | http://pastebin.com/XAtemMBe |
| 16:03.02 | khertan | ~ping |
| 16:03.03 | infobot | ~pong |
| 16:03.34 | khertan | it s works elsewhere |
| 16:04.08 | *** join/#maemo slonopotamus (~slonopota@83.149.8.47) |
| 16:05.27 | slonopotamus | hello, maemo people |
| 16:06.21 | slonopotamus | can anyone explain where my package dissapeared from extras-devel? http://maemo.org/packages/view/sflphone-client-gnome/ |
| 16:07.04 | slonopotamus | ah, 'old version cleaned' |
| 16:07.06 | *** join/#maemo SunilGhai (~SunilGhai@203.76.178.107) |
| 16:07.13 | slonopotamus | wonderful, just wonderful |
| 16:07.21 | *** join/#maemo konttori (~konttori@Maemo/OS/konttori) |
| 16:07.35 | slonopotamus | sets up a daily script to upload new version. |
| 16:08.23 | khertan | you are lucky mine don t want to disappear |
| 16:08.29 | khertan | bug 9894 |
| 16:08.30 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9894 Ask for remove of all pypackager of fremantle extras, extras-testing, extras-devel |
| 16:08.34 | slonopotamus | err, no |
| 16:08.42 | *** join/#maemo venkat (~venkat@59.164.232.87) |
| 16:08.43 | slonopotamus | cleaner didn't remove last ones |
| 16:10.10 | slonopotamus | khertan: heh |
| 16:11.23 | slonopotamus | sooo? |
| 16:11.35 | slonopotamus | (note, sflphone-common is still in repo) |
| 16:13.25 | *** join/#maemo Funnyface (~user734@76.89-11-145.nextgentel.com) |
| 16:14.44 | korhojoa | http://jvprocon.com/~joakim/lelwut.png |
| 16:15.19 | korhojoa | can someone tell me why this happens? |
| 16:15.31 | *** join/#maemo dvoid (~dvoid@h230n4-sde-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 16:15.55 | corecode | does the xlv work for you with smartreflex enabled? |
| 16:16.05 | slonopotamus | Jaffa: ping |
| 16:16.10 | *** join/#maemo Vanadis (~Vanadis__@217-162-187-41.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 16:16.38 | korhojoa | corecode: I didn't explicitly enable smartreflex, was that needed? |
| 16:16.54 | corecode | i think otherwise the voltage regulation does not happen at all |
| 16:17.07 | corecode | i could be wrong, that's just my brief interpretation of the source |
| 16:17.10 | korhojoa | so uh, it ran at what voltage then? |
| 16:17.19 | corecode | at the stock voltage |
| 16:17.25 | corecode | like the stock kernel |
| 16:17.28 | korhojoa | then it should not have used more power? |
| 16:17.34 | korhojoa | because that's just retarded |
| 16:17.35 | corecode | no |
| 16:17.50 | corecode | is that batteryeye? |
| 16:17.55 | slonopotamus | the most embarrasing thing is that i got no notification on removal |
| 16:18.00 | korhojoa | batterygraph |
| 16:18.02 | *** join/#maemo konttori (~konttori@Maemo/OS/konttori) |
| 16:18.29 | corecode | ah new version |
| 16:18.29 | corecode | nice |
| 16:22.02 | *** join/#maemo noobmonk3y (~noobmonk3@host86-178-204-203.range86-178.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:22.32 | corecode | korhojoa: did you have it running at a higher frequency? |
| 16:22.44 | corecode | or maybe have more processes running? |
| 16:22.50 | *** join/#maemo geek00l__ (~geek00l@175.144.174.226) |
| 16:23.00 | *** join/#maemo lmoura (~lauromour@200.184.118.130) |
| 16:23.09 | *** join/#maemo TheOne (~max@dslb-088-072-249-045.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:23.17 | TheOne | hi @all |
| 16:24.01 | TheOne | i am not sure whether i found a bug or i am only stupi ^^ |
| 16:24.11 | TheOne | maybe someone can help me |
| 16:24.28 | TheOne | my problem relates to Petrovich |
| 16:24.35 | TheOne | the bluetooth app |
| 16:25.20 | TheOne | i would sent a friend a file from my n900 to his mobile phone |
| 16:25.26 | *** join/#maemo Cazou (~detlev@host-213-213-221-24.brutele.be) |
| 16:25.52 | slonopotamus | (if we were in ##c, you would be already banned for excessive flood) :) |
| 16:25.52 | kamui | lame |
| 16:26.08 | kamui | I dont' see chromium in the software repo for testing |
| 16:26.09 | kamui | :( |
| 16:26.14 | TheOne | at first there was the paring procedure of the 2 devices |
| 16:26.16 | nidO | its in -devel |
| 16:26.32 | *** join/#maemo SWFu64 (~SWFu@unaffiliated/swfu) |
| 16:26.53 | *** join/#maemo flavioribeiro (~Flavio@200.97.67.57) |
| 16:27.02 | TheOne | and here was the problem, we used numbers as key and i could not type numbers with the hardware keyboard |
| 16:27.14 | ShadowJK | press 0 without the fn |
| 16:27.19 | TheOne | only via the onscreen keyboard |
| 16:27.42 | korhojoa | corecode: no, default speeds, just lower voltage. nothing more running either |
| 16:28.05 | TheOne | yes i tried it with fn + number and the number key without fn |
| 16:28.09 | korhojoa | corecode: i actually played commander keen (dosbox) and listened to music with the stock kernel when that was taken |
| 16:28.15 | *** join/#maemo jreznik (~jreznik@36.173.broadband6.iol.cz) |
| 16:28.23 | TheOne | i always get the caracter |
| 16:28.24 | slonopotamus | wonders why he has _two_ browserd processes on n900. doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of running as daemon? |
| 16:28.27 | ShadowJK | You guys realize that in idle, the CPU will be running at 0MHz, and the voltage will be 0V? :-) |
| 16:28.49 | *** join/#maemo C-S-B (~csb@78.146.103.234) |
| 16:28.56 | ShadowJK | Your ULV kernels will only make a difference for when the CPU is actually used |
| 16:29.00 | javispedro | slonopotamus: miracles of modern technologies. one is used for normal browsing the other used for the conversations app. |
| 16:29.24 | TheOne | does somebody have the same problem? |
| 16:29.43 | slonopotamus | javispedro: why they can't be a single one? (and did you see my sflphone-client-gnome that dissapeared from extras-devel?) |
| 16:29.43 | corecode | ShadowJK: it does? |
| 16:29.48 | ShadowJK | TheOne, did you hold in the blue arrow (fn) while pressing the key with the blue 0? |
| 16:29.48 | kamui | nid0, i don't see it at all in my repositories |
| 16:29.56 | ShadowJK | corecode, what does what? |
| 16:29.58 | kamui | and I have testing and devel enabled |
| 16:30.09 | corecode | ShadowJK: so, what is using energy then? the maintained wifi/3g connections? |
| 16:30.10 | javispedro | slonopotamus: dunno really, just wondering that thing too. |
| 16:30.10 | kamui | hmm, let me manually look under all |
| 16:30.27 | TomaszD | kamui, refresh then, it's under network, I'm downloading it right now |
| 16:30.27 | ShadowJK | corecode, ram, radios, peripherals |
| 16:30.31 | nidO | http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/chromium/5.0.369.2-maemo2/ |
| 16:30.34 | nidO | its there ^ |
| 16:30.39 | corecode | mm ram |
| 16:30.45 | corecode | should switch off banks |
| 16:30.53 | slonopotamus | javispedro: no googleable traces, all deps seem to be in place... straange |
| 16:31.09 | javispedro | slonopotamus: was it submitted recently? |
| 16:31.15 | *** join/#maemo marcus__ (~marcus@0x573ebd02.cpe.ge-0-2-0-1104.mrbnqu1.customer.tele.dk) |
| 16:31.21 | javispedro | there was a bug fixed this morning for all I know |
| 16:31.23 | slonopotamus | javispedro: no, 2 months ago |
| 16:31.30 | javispedro | pft, dunno. |
| 16:31.45 | marcus__ | If I use the speedometer from Ovi Store, does it then connect to the internet etc? I've had some problems with using GPS without internet, but could just be a coincidence |
| 16:31.47 | ShadowJK | Standby is really really low power... the goal is to get back to standby as soon as possible... and for that, running at 600MHz to minimize active time and maximize standby time can be a win :-) |
| 16:31.56 | TheOne | ShadowJK: for example i want type 1 - i first use fn + Q and get the letter q, after that i remove the q and tried only the Key Q and get a q too |
| 16:31.57 | slonopotamus | javispedro: http://maemo.org/packages/view/sflphone-client-gnome/ has changelog |
| 16:32.25 | ShadowJK | marcus__, presumable since it's a speedometer it uses the Location service, which connects to the internet if you have Network Positioning enabled in the Location settings, and doesn't if you don't |
| 16:32.52 | slonopotamus | javispedro: so everything is there (even package page), except for debs |
| 16:32.52 | marcus__ | ShadowJK: So what's up with the GPS? Why would it need internet? :S |
| 16:33.07 | corecode | agps |
| 16:33.25 | ShadowJK | marcus__, it doesn't need it, it's just faster with it |
| 16:33.32 | marcus__ | Aha. Goodie. |
| 16:33.36 | marcus__ | Thankie. |
| 16:33.38 | ShadowJK | internet is like a gazillion times faster than downloading stuff from the satellite |
| 16:33.50 | corecode | i had serious problems making it work at all without network |
| 16:34.04 | nidO | "downloading stuff from the satellite"? |
| 16:34.12 | javispedro | slonopotamus: lol, indeed http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/s/sflphone-client-gnome/sflphone-client-gnome_0.9.7~ppa1~jaunty-maemo8_armel.deb |
| 16:34.13 | corecode | the almanac |
| 16:34.17 | slonopotamus | javispedro: i suspect old package cleaner was working too hard |
| 16:34.18 | javispedro | (404) |
| 16:34.23 | ShadowJK | Most people either permanently stand in a spot where the signal is too bad for downloading data from the satellites, or wave their device around like a crackmonkey so that the GPS chip never manages to download all the data and ends up having to restart from scratch constantly |
| 16:34.24 | corecode | where is which sattelite |
| 16:34.33 | ShadowJK | almanac, ephemeris |
| 16:34.41 | javispedro | slonopotamus: bump the version number and resubmit, if it happens again complain :) |
| 16:35.29 | TheOne | ShadowJK: do you know what i mean? |
| 16:35.37 | korhojoa | ShadowJK: what i don't understand is why the device doesn't try to download from multiple sources and patch together what it didn't get earlier |
| 16:35.38 | slonopotamus | javispedro: maybe just cron resubmit job? :) |
| 16:35.43 | ShadowJK | TheOne, hm... |
| 16:35.53 | javispedro | slonopotamus: did it happen more than once? |
| 16:36.03 | slonopotamus | javispedro: nope |
| 16:36.04 | ShadowJK | TheOne, I would have thought that atleast one of those methods would have given a number :( |
| 16:36.15 | TomaszD | testing |
| 16:36.17 | TheOne | me too ^^ |
| 16:36.22 | *** join/#maemo pupnik (~pupnik@unaffiliated/pupnik) |
| 16:36.27 | ShadowJK | korhojoa, it doesn't know the data will be correct if it patches together |
| 16:36.29 | *** join/#maemo Sargun (~Sargun@atarack/Staff/Sargun) |
| 16:36.31 | javispedro | slonopotamus: then hope the autoclearner learns his lesson :P |
| 16:36.32 | slonopotamus | wait |
| 16:36.36 | *** join/#maemo konttori (~konttori@Maemo/OS/konttori) |
| 16:36.41 | slonopotamus | javispedro: autocleaner removed them all |
| 16:36.43 | ShadowJK | I'm not really sure if it knows the actual position of the stuff coming from the sky.. |
| 16:36.55 | ShadowJK | and finding the satellite to download from in the first place it slower without agps :/ |
| 16:37.04 | slonopotamus | javispedro: maemo8 was removed too. i missed it first time |
| 16:37.15 | corecode | i think it can listen to any satellite |
| 16:37.21 | corecode | but it just takes very very long |
| 16:37.35 | korhojoa | ShadowJK: i mean, can't it look at the end of where the transmission ended and then look at where to continue next time? |
| 16:37.47 | slonopotamus | wtf?? |
| 16:38.05 | corecode | hum? |
| 16:38.10 | corecode | it just has to listen to the satellite |
| 16:38.10 | ShadowJK | It's one-way communication, you can't ask the sat to send the missing bytes :) |
| 16:38.18 | corecode | until the stuff comes what it wants |
| 16:38.18 | slonopotamus | javispedro: according to package page, maemo8 version was autocleaned the same minute it was imported |
| 16:38.37 | nidO | almanac data comes from all satellites simultaneously on a repeat, that data only needs to be downloaded infrequently anyway |
| 16:38.40 | *** join/#maemo SmilingShark (~Smilingsh@93-62-4-64.ip20.fastwebnet.it) |
| 16:39.18 | *** part/#maemo SmilingShark (~Smilingsh@93-62-4-64.ip20.fastwebnet.it) |
| 16:39.19 | *** join/#maemo Cazou (~detlev@host-213-213-221-24.brutele.be) |
| 16:39.20 | javispedro | slonopotamus: clearly, he hates you |
| 16:39.25 | slonopotamus | javispedro: and then, a week later, all previous versions were cleaned |
| 16:39.26 | javispedro | doesn't know the actual logic behind it |
| 16:40.34 | ShadowJK | So with perfect signal it takes 30 seconds to get the entire message from the sat, if you miss a piece you have to wait another 30sec while hte transmission loops :D |
| 16:40.49 | ShadowJK | and you need, what, 4 satellites to determine your position? :) |
| 16:41.08 | javispedro | remember something like that in his old garmin receiver manual |
| 16:41.16 | nidO | 3 for a rough fix |
| 16:41.24 | RST38h | moo all |
| 16:41.27 | ShadowJK | "Each frame contains 1/25th of the almanac, so 12.5 minutes are required to receive the entire almanac from a single satellite." |
| 16:41.29 | javispedro | including the "WHY IS THIS THING SO SLOW PART" |
| 16:41.30 | ShadowJK | ouch :) |
| 16:41.43 | javispedro | ls |
| 16:41.48 | slonopotamus | pwd |
| 16:41.55 | javispedro | /porn |
| 16:41.58 | *** join/#maemo Abhinav1 (~Abhinav1@unaffiliated/abhinav1) |
| 16:42.05 | slonopotamus | ~porn |
| 16:42.06 | infobot | Porn remains one of the largest problems with Open Source Software. Often causing development delays, flooded links and, in extreme cases, disabling programmers ability to type. |
| 16:42.17 | slonopotamus | muahaha :D |
| 16:42.36 | javispedro | moo RST38h, about bug 9752, have a minute? |
| 16:42.37 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9752 Autobuilder links against uninstallable libraries |
| 16:42.43 | RST38h | javis: yes? |
| 16:43.02 | slonopotamus | RST38h: do you manage extras-devel repo? |
| 16:43.11 | RST38h | slono: no. |
| 16:43.25 | javispedro | slonopotamus: X-Fade does it |
| 16:43.31 | slonopotamus | ah, right |
| 16:43.35 | slonopotamus | javispedro: thx |
| 16:44.17 | *** join/#maemo chittoor (~rajesh@115.117.198.170) |
| 16:44.23 | slonopotamus | summons X-Fade |
| 16:44.53 | slonopotamus | fails |
| 16:44.59 | *** join/#maemo eMHa (~mh@HSI-KBW-085-216-116-101.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 16:46.13 | *** join/#maemo unixSnob (~unixSnob@starfury.spearlink.com) |
| 16:46.15 | *** join/#maemo bilboed-pi (~bilboed@74.Red-80-24-4.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:46.44 | kamui | TomaszD, found it! |
| 16:46.54 | kamui | lame sauce, but I got it under all, didn't show for me under network at first |
| 16:46.57 | *** join/#maemo bidossessi (~bidossess@41.221.23.177) |
| 16:47.01 | kamui | not until I did my updates |
| 16:47.22 | slonopotamus | btw. who decided to trigger autobuilder on .dsc upload and not on .changes? dput uploads dsc (fast), then tarball (slow), then .changes (fast). so with current triggering it has high chances to get half-uploaded tarball. |
| 16:48.27 | KMFDM | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Participatory_economics |
| 16:48.31 | KMFDM | err |
| 16:48.33 | KMFDM | wrong channel |
| 16:49.22 | TheOne | ShadowJK: i will write report it as a bug to the Petrovich author |
| 16:51.48 | jacekowski | slonopotamus: emm |
| 16:52.00 | jacekowski | slonopotamus: it takes like 10s to upload tarball |
| 16:54.00 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.175.109) |
| 16:54.15 | slonopotamus | jacekowski: ... that depends on tarball size and network bandwidth. |
| 16:55.21 | *** part/#maemo timh (~timhardy@84.12.242.186) |
| 16:55.23 | *** join/#maemo pidus (~gandalf@unaffiliated/pidus) |
| 16:56.52 | noobmonk3y | hmmm is autobuilder back alive or still having that time of the month? :| |
| 16:58.51 | *** join/#maemo MohammadAG (~Maemohamm@62.219.120.20) |
| 16:58.55 | jacekowski | noobmonk3y: it was alive this morning |
| 16:59.00 | noobmonk3y | yay |
| 16:59.12 | jacekowski | noobmonk3y: but i think it's still building against pr1.2 |
| 16:59.24 | noobmonk3y | ahhh thats ok, not had that issue yet with mine |
| 16:59.29 | noobmonk3y | using python :D |
| 16:59.39 | noobmonk3y | seems to get past that bit ok |
| 16:59.59 | lcuk | if username = "n00bmonk3y": |
| 17:00.16 | slonopotamus | javispedro: there's a total mess with autocleaner... |
| 17:00.50 | *** join/#maemo Khertan (~507dafc5@gateway/web/freenode/x-omhppszkyxwrzbcs) |
| 17:00.57 | noobmonk3y | lol lcuk, noobmonk3y == Special ;) |
| 17:01.56 | noobmonk3y | lcuk was just panicking, he wouldn't know what to do with himself if he didnt get a daily healthcheck update ;) |
| 17:02.32 | korhojoa | you know what i like about summer? |
| 17:02.37 | noobmonk3y | the sun? |
| 17:02.40 | korhojoa | it's 20:02 already, and the sun hasn't set |
| 17:02.41 | korhojoa | <3 |
| 17:03.36 | lcuk | noobmonk3y, lol |
| 17:04.35 | *** join/#maemo Gh0sty (~ghosty@ip-83-134-181-177.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 17:04.48 | *** join/#maemo cyborg-one (1000@188.115.157.27) |
| 17:05.28 | noobmonk3y | :D mid-:D |
| 17:05.39 | *** join/#maemo timeless_mbp (~timeless@80-186-182-17.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 17:05.39 | TheOne | bye |
| 17:05.43 | *** part/#maemo TheOne (~max@dslb-088-072-249-045.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:05.43 | *** join/#maemo timeless_mbp (~timeless@firefox/developer/timeless) |
| 17:05.46 | *** join/#maemo mlpug (~mlpug@a88-115-164-40.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 17:05.52 | MohammadAG | hi |
| 17:06.41 | jacekowski | noobmonk3y: you will know something regarding that bugtracker link requirement |
| 17:08.00 | *** join/#maemo mikhas (~michael@cs78145066.pp.htv.fi) |
| 17:08.16 | MohammadAG | anyone got a link to the image shown at the summit? |
| 17:08.33 | MohammadAG | (about not keeping the N900 locked @ 550/600) |
| 17:09.38 | *** join/#maemo marcusm_m (~marcus@0x573ebd02.cpe.ge-0-2-0-1104.mrbnqu1.customer.tele.dk) |
| 17:10.29 | slonopotamus | bug 9902 |
| 17:10.29 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9902 Autocleaner purged _all_ versions of sflphone-client-gnome from extras-devel |
| 17:10.39 | slonopotamus | javispedro: /\ |
| 17:10.55 | marcusm_m | wonders if you can receive the text of a textmessage using DBus and then use espeak to speak it out loud ^_^ |
| 17:11.18 | javispedro | slonopotamus: well done |
| 17:11.47 | lcuk | lolololol slonopotamus |
| 17:11.53 | slonopotamus | javispedro: i'm lucky that it didn't purge html page too :) |
| 17:11.55 | lcuk | its just being efficient |
| 17:11.59 | slonopotamus | lcuk: that's not funny :) |
| 17:12.04 | noobmonk3y | giggles |
| 17:12.06 | noobmonk3y | tis a little |
| 17:12.13 | slonopotamus | well, actually it is funny :) |
| 17:12.24 | noobmonk3y | i just love the way you did everything correctly and logged a bug ;) |
| 17:12.33 | slonopotamus | but my user isn't happy :) |
| 17:12.42 | noobmonk3y | not suprised :( |
| 17:12.50 | *** join/#maemo S_WO (~swo@p54AEF4EA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:13.31 | slonopotamus | i wonder how autocleaner determines that particular version isn't the latest one. |
| 17:13.42 | slonopotamus | i think it does that wrong :) |
| 17:13.52 | *** join/#maemo geek00l__ (~geek00l@175.144.168.250) |
| 17:13.58 | *** join/#maemo alecrim (~alecrim@189.2.128.130) |
| 17:14.05 | lcuk | i'm betting it ignores maemo* section in equation - its meant to hold last 5 builds from what i hear |
| 17:14.08 | lcuk | http://maemo.org/packages/view/sflphone-client-gnome/ |
| 17:14.17 | *** join/#maemo crs_ (~crs@host86-179-31-214.range86-179.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:14.31 | slonopotamus | lcuk: well. 5 builds != no builds at all :) |
| 17:14.53 | lcuk | ofc - something made it go OTT cleaning |
| 17:15.01 | slonopotamus | OTT - ? |
| 17:15.05 | slonopotamus | ofc - ? |
| 17:15.08 | *** join/#maemo Gh0sty (~ghosty@ip-213-49-89-197.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 17:15.14 | marcusm_m | Anyone know if someone is working on a port for Bub Brothers? :P |
| 17:15.37 | *** join/#maemo promulo (~romulo@189.71.119.169) |
| 17:16.28 | lcuk | slonopotamus, ofcourse |
| 17:16.33 | noobmonk3y | lcuk, it finally realised after parsing 1000+ healtcheck builds that it needed a diet and cleaned itself up? |
| 17:16.42 | *** join/#maemo Cazou (~detlev@host-213-213-221-24.brutele.be) |
| 17:18.03 | slonopotamus | lcuk: i have wild guess. i uploaded ...-karmic-... (instead of jaunty) before, but it did't build and didn't stop maemo1-maemo5 from going into repo |
| 17:18.05 | *** join/#maemo aSIMULAtor (~me@dsl-hkibrasgw2-fef7de00-17.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 17:18.52 | slonopotamus | lcuk: weird things started from maemo6 |
| 17:19.27 | slonopotamus | brb |
| 17:21.08 | *** join/#maemo danielsilva (~dsilva@76-218-202-164.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:21.11 | jacekowski | does anybody know what software is used on autobuilder? |
| 17:21.21 | *** join/#maemo Gh0sty (~ghosty@ip-83-134-176-36.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 17:21.34 | jacekowski | and could share configs |
| 17:23.44 | *** join/#maemo andre900 (~user@gprs5.vodafone.cz) |
| 17:23.56 | Chiku | sob 1.2 still not out :( |
| 17:24.24 | *** join/#maemo Gadgetoid_mbp (~phil@cpc3-nrwh9-2-0-cust561.4-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:24.26 | *** join/#maemo slonopotamus (~slonopota@80.90.124.130) |
| 17:24.55 | *** join/#maemo githogori_ (~githogori@adsl-66-123-22-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 17:25.47 | *** join/#maemo yerga_ (~Daniel@87.223.169.175) |
| 17:26.13 | *** join/#maemo igagis (~igagis@cs181109083.pp.htv.fi) |
| 17:26.54 | *** join/#maemo booiiing (~booiiing]@cl-959.dus-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 17:26.56 | *** join/#maemo Abhinav1 (~Abhinav1@unaffiliated/abhinav1) |
| 17:27.11 | *** join/#maemo Terje1 (~Terje@a91-152-105-94.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 17:29.30 | *** join/#maemo aquarius- (~aquarius@sun.mitm.cz) |
| 17:29.54 | *** join/#maemo florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian) |
| 17:32.01 | *** join/#maemo venkat (~venkat@59.164.232.87) |
| 17:32.14 | *** join/#maemo andre__ (~andre@Maemo/community/bugmaster/andre) |
| 17:32.31 | *** join/#maemo geek00l_ (~geek00l@175.144.171.160) |
| 17:33.50 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@81.18.92.10) |
| 17:34.53 | javispedro | lcuk: indeed it might be ~ char throwing it off |
| 17:34.59 | javispedro | but dunno |
| 17:35.24 | *** join/#maemo C-S-B-N900 (~C-S-B@92.24.21.160) |
| 17:35.38 | lcuk | ~ is used in dpkg to incicate less than or something |
| 17:35.46 | javispedro | yeah, it's valid |
| 17:36.18 | lcuk | never suggested it wasnt |
| 17:36.37 | javispedro | might had in his previous assert |
| 17:37.04 | MohammadAG | oh for the love of god /var/tmp/ccZVnO3f.s:109050: Fatal error: can't close CMakeFiles/flake.dir/tools/KoCreatePathTool.o: No space left on device |
| 17:37.20 | javispedro | that's good! |
| 17:37.21 | MohammadAG | i filled my laptop's HDD :/ |
| 17:37.45 | *** join/#maemo sttwister (~sttwister@81.18.92.10) |
| 17:37.55 | MohammadAG | needs to find a way to backup scratchbox |
| 17:38.18 | MohammadAG | it's the PR1.1.1 SDK, and I can't lose that! |
| 17:38.52 | slonopotamus | MohammadAG: hehe :) |
| 17:39.17 | javispedro | oh, in the future you should |
| 17:39.41 | *** join/#maemo Cazou (~detlev@host-213-213-221-24.brutele.be) |
| 17:39.50 | javispedro | we're trying to bring in a more recent shlibdeps :P |
| 17:39.53 | *** join/#maemo Gh0sty (~ghosty@ip-213-49-89-254.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 17:41.02 | *** join/#maemo T7g (~t7g@d14-69-127-101.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 17:42.15 | MohammadAG | javispedro, i'll lose it when I get PR1.2 :p |
| 17:42.35 | javispedro | by then who knows if the pr1.3 sdk will be out :D |
| 17:43.09 | *** join/#maemo C-S-B (~csb@92.24.21.160) |
| 17:43.41 | MohammadAG | javispedro, well I hope you guys don't update the autobuilder next time! :P |
| 17:44.21 | slonopotamus | ~ping |
| 17:44.22 | infobot | ~pong |
| 17:44.39 | javispedro | there's people who wanted it -- qt guys mostly. |
| 17:45.12 | MohammadAG | wonders why |
| 17:45.21 | *** join/#maemo venkat (~venkat@59.164.232.87) |
| 17:45.23 | MohammadAG | they can't install their own apps then |
| 17:45.30 | *** join/#maemo slonopotamus (~slonopota@80.90.124.130) |
| 17:45.34 | javispedro | and there will be people that will want the 1.3 whenever it comes because it will have whizzy-whisky-optimized-trithium codecs |
| 17:45.58 | MohammadAG | javispedro, make a separate autobuilder for them ;) |
| 17:47.18 | javispedro | and then ditch qa? |
| 17:47.42 | MohammadAG | lcuk, did you try the live wallpaper package? |
| 17:47.50 | javispedro | you would have a fremantle-1.0 QA queue, a fremantle-1.2 queue, and a fremantle-1.3 queue. |
| 17:47.54 | MohammadAG | javispedro, QA doesn't really apply in -devel :) |
| 17:48.06 | MohammadAG | ditch the 1.0 one :) |
| 17:48.18 | *** join/#maemo bilboed (~bilboed@89.129.136.118) |
| 17:48.31 | javispedro | (cue complains from people who won't upgrade to 1.2 the day it's out, which includes me) |
| 17:49.05 | lcuk | MohammadAG, yes |
| 17:49.09 | lcuk | not yours tho |
| 17:49.24 | MohammadAG | ? |
| 17:49.37 | MohammadAG | it's not mine, i just repackaged it for PR1.1.1 |
| 17:49.57 | lcuk | exactly, i did not use your repackaged version |
| 17:49.58 | MohammadAG | kept control file the same too :) |
| 17:50.33 | MohammadAG | threatens lcuk and tells him to give him the PR1.2 image |
| 17:50.44 | lcuk | that took you a while :) |
| 17:51.28 | *** join/#maemo Mousey (~wtfisme@sea02-v600-nat.marchex.com) |
| 17:51.34 | MohammadAG | lag :P |
| 17:52.14 | *** join/#maemo ml-mobile (~wat@57.68.140.238) |
| 17:52.39 | MohammadAG | lcuk, how long have you had the image? |
| 17:52.48 | lcuk | shrugs |
| 17:53.14 | MohammadAG | persists |
| 17:53.43 | MohammadAG | lcuk, don't, i'm not aiming to guess a release date :) |
| 17:54.01 | *** join/#maemo andre900 (~user@g1.blanicka25.net) |
| 17:55.51 | lcuk | wow, ive been a member of gitorious now since january |
| 17:58.02 | MohammadAG | apologizes to lcuk :) |
| 17:59.02 | *** join/#maemo VDVsx (~Valerio@Maemo/community/council/VDVsx) |
| 18:02.33 | *** join/#maemo mlpug (~mlpug@a88-115-164-40.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 18:03.04 | *** join/#maemo spliffy_ (~spliffy@p4FE97853.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:04.59 | *** join/#maemo Flyser (~flyser@unaffiliated/flyser) |
| 18:07.57 | *** join/#maemo V13 (~v13@188.4.232.193.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 18:07.59 | V13 | j #maemo-devel |
| 18:08.03 | V13 | oops |
| 18:10.29 | *** join/#maemo silbo___ (~quassel@193.40.244.205) |
| 18:13.10 | V13 | t.m.o. needs to be split in a social and a technical forum... there is too much repetitive noise... |
| 18:13.21 | V13 | (whichever way you see it |
| 18:13.31 | *** join/#maemo slonopotamus (~slonopota@80.90.124.130) |
| 18:13.35 | RST38h | ...then everybody in the social part has to be banned, permanently |
| 18:13.41 | V13 | :) |
| 18:13.43 | andre__ | there's categories for that I'd say. |
| 18:13.54 | V13 | andre__ yes, but there is just one "active topics" tab |
| 18:14.04 | lcuk | we should have a check for repetition and see how many creative ways to ask for 1.2 they can come up with |
| 18:14.13 | V13 | none |
| 18:14.29 | V13 | (you said creative :-) |
| 18:14.33 | *** join/#maemo keesj (~keesj@ip49-193-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 18:14.44 | *** join/#maemo mardi__ (~mardi_@95.141.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 18:14.52 | *** join/#maemo choppa (~chigge@p5491B268.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:15.55 | *** join/#maemo buxz777 (~user@212.183.140.0) |
| 18:17.05 | *** join/#maemo trem (~trem@mol92-1-81-57-136-23.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:17.40 | V13 | at some point i heard (here i believe) for an easy way to use the accelerometer for games... any idea ? |
| 18:18.03 | SpeedEvil | well - 0th cut is just to read from /sys/wherever/coord |
| 18:18.13 | *** join/#maemo eean (~imonroe@amarok/developer/eean) |
| 18:18.28 | *** join/#maemo SmilyOrg (Smily@BSN-143-119-197.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) |
| 18:18.31 | V13 | someone had mentioned a way to use it as input using a library.. not reading and translating coord |
| 18:19.16 | *** join/#maemo paroneay` (~user@207-229-176-139.grn-bsr1.chi-grn.il.cable.rcn.com) |
| 18:19.24 | *** join/#maemo romulo_ (~romulo@189.71.110.51) |
| 18:23.17 | SpeedEvil | k |
| 18:24.50 | Jaffa | slonopotamus: pong |
| 18:25.01 | *** join/#maemo jkyro (jasu@dsl-hkibrasgw1-fe23f900-77.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 18:30.07 | *** join/#maemo Terje1 (~Terje@a91-152-105-94.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 18:30.28 | V13 | the builder has wrong time... |
| 18:30.49 | noobmonk3y | is about to test the autobuilder :| |
| 18:30.49 | V13 | i promoted a package about 5 minutes ago and its timestamp is still 2 minutes in the future |
| 18:31.00 | V13 | (18.32 UTC) |
| 18:31.20 | *** join/#maemo n900evil (~Speedevil@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 18:31.23 | V13 | noobmonk3y: hit it... it can take it... |
| 18:32.24 | noobmonk3y | jusy "hit it" ........ eeeeeeeeeek |
| 18:33.03 | noobmonk3y | just* |
| 18:33.32 | *** join/#maemo zeq (~s_j_newbu@2a01:348:1e3:0:ca97:9fff:fec3:7dee) |
| 18:33.55 | noobmonk3y | wow build succeeded in 2 mins |
| 18:33.58 | noobmonk3y | seems quicker ;) |
| 18:34.12 | *** join/#maemo db_ (~db@d1b.org) |
| 18:34.57 | *** join/#maemo d1b (~db@d1b.org) |
| 18:35.18 | X-Fade | slonopotamus: Will look at your issue tomorrow. The cleaner seems to either not like you or is a bit too agressive. |
| 18:35.36 | V13 | rephrases a song from iron maiden |
| 18:35.41 | noobmonk3y | thinks the first option, but is not sure |
| 18:36.01 | V13 | "abuse it, misuse it, it can take all that you've got" |
| 18:36.31 | *** join/#maemo hannesw (~hannes@chello062178166147.12.14.vie.surfer.at) |
| 18:36.35 | noobmonk3y | i dunno, even the strongest people cry when they see healthcheck.... pretty sure autobuilder has a tantrum when i get near it ;) |
| 18:37.05 | javispedro | lcuk: there, your dark side clone ("luck") is on #meego ! ;) |
| 18:37.24 | X-Fade | noobmonk3y: Nah, autobuilder has seen some really dark things today. |
| 18:37.25 | V13 | any idea on whom I may annoy when a project has 10 votes but cannot be promoted ? |
| 18:37.36 | V13 | (most probably because of "special" votes) |
| 18:37.37 | javispedro | chronos, god of time? |
| 18:37.43 | noobmonk3y | X-Fade, did you feed it after midnight again :| |
| 18:37.50 | X-Fade | noobmonk3y: Evil experiments :) |
| 18:37.51 | MohammadAG | omg |
| 18:37.53 | noobmonk3y | lol |
| 18:38.04 | MohammadAG | my N900 went from 60% to 0% |
| 18:38.07 | noobmonk3y | feeds MohammadAG to the autobuilder |
| 18:38.10 | MohammadAG | in 1 minute |
| 18:38.16 | noobmonk3y | lol MohammadAG !!! |
| 18:38.16 | *** join/#maemo T7g (~t7g@d14-69-127-101.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 18:38.24 | noobmonk3y | that'll teach you to not overclock ;) |
| 18:38.24 | MohammadAG | no seriously! |
| 18:38.40 | MohammadAG | i'm at 600MHz :) |
| 18:38.45 | X-Fade | MohammadAG: Redraw after unlock? |
| 18:38.45 | noobmonk3y | as i said ;) |
| 18:39.06 | MohammadAG | X-Fade, huh? :) |
| 18:39.32 | noobmonk3y | wtfffff |
| 18:39.37 | X-Fade | MohammadAG: When you unlock the screen, then it only redraws the screen. So for a short moment you see the old screen before lock? |
| 18:39.39 | noobmonk3y | autobuilder just cleaned a reasonably new version |
| 18:39.43 | noobmonk3y | the one in testing....... |
| 18:39.44 | noobmonk3y | hmmmmmmmm |
| 18:39.54 | *** join/#maemo timeless_mbp (~timeless@a88-115-8-36.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 18:39.55 | *** join/#maemo timeless_mbp (~timeless@firefox/developer/timeless) |
| 18:40.07 | noobmonk3y | i'm hoping it just cleaned it outta devel |
| 18:40.26 | kamui | yo |
| 18:40.29 | MohammadAG | X-Fade, nope |
| 18:40.31 | noobmonk3y | yoyo |
| 18:40.33 | X-Fade | noobmonk3y: Should keep one version? |
| 18:40.51 | V13 | xm.. -0 ? |
| 18:40.58 | kamui | so who's using chromium |
| 18:41.04 | kamui | I find it quite nice for an early build |
| 18:41.08 | MohammadAG | X-Fade, http://i39.tinypic.com/15qxe6w.jpg |
| 18:41.12 | V13 | noobmonk3y: you forced -0 as version ? |
| 18:41.12 | kamui | but all my letter IN the browser are stuck in caps |
| 18:41.13 | noobmonk3y | well 1.0 is in testing, and 1.1 is in devel, it said it just cleaned 1.0 |
| 18:41.13 | kamui | :( |
| 18:41.24 | V13 | are you making a debian native package ? |
| 18:41.29 | noobmonk3y | 1.0.0-0 and 1.1.0-0 |
| 18:41.30 | MohammadAG | that's small.... |
| 18:41.32 | noobmonk3y | python |
| 18:41.51 | *** join/#maemo Raafat (~29e9d734@gateway/web/freenode/x-rogaocdxeibdyrtd) |
| 18:41.52 | noobmonk3y | just checking the HAM sandwhich |
| 18:41.58 | X-Fade | noobmonk3y: Yes, it remove 1.0 from devel. But 1.1 is on it's way in. |
| 18:42.06 | noobmonk3y | yay |
| 18:42.13 | noobmonk3y | pats autobuilder on the back |
| 18:42.26 | *** join/#maemo Flyser (~flyser@unaffiliated/flyser) |
| 18:42.27 | V13 | x-fade: until yesterday it was only cleaning older debian versions (e.g -1 when -2 was uploaded) no ? |
| 18:42.38 | *** join/#maemo Ijan (~zeroblack@f048134025.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 18:42.43 | MohammadAG | noobmonk3y, X-Fade http://i40.tinypic.com/2l42dg.jpg |
| 18:42.52 | X-Fade | V13: it still does that. |
| 18:42.57 | noobmonk3y | wow!!! |
| 18:42.59 | X-Fade | V13: Just keeps one version. |
| 18:43.05 | noobmonk3y | MohammadAG, did it fart as it discharged? |
| 18:43.07 | MohammadAG | wish the stock market was like that |
| 18:43.14 | MohammadAG | LOL |
| 18:43.19 | V13 | then it should not clean 1.0 when 1.1 was uploaded... right ? |
| 18:43.29 | noobmonk3y | MohammadAG, when it gets some juice - new h/c uploaded to devel ;) |
| 18:43.41 | *** join/#maemo paroneayea (~user@fsf/member/paroneayea) |
| 18:43.44 | X-Fade | V13: Sure it should. Only one. |
| 18:43.45 | noobmonk3y | V13, assuming it cleaned it from devel, not testing |
| 18:43.56 | noobmonk3y | so i now have 1 version in devel, and 1 in testing |
| 18:44.39 | V13 | ok.. :) |
| 18:44.51 | *** join/#maemo bholst_ (~bholst@p548D7EE8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:45.27 | noobmonk3y | MohammadAG, have to admit that pic looks like mine when i use joikuspot ;) |
| 18:46.02 | *** join/#maemo Cazou (~detlev@host-213-213-221-24.brutele.be) |
| 18:47.06 | noobmonk3y | ahhhhhhh fucksocks |
| 18:47.11 | noobmonk3y | mistake in that devel version |
| 18:48.09 | lcuk | MohammadAG, doesnt joiku have to maintain an adhoc host |
| 18:48.23 | MohammadAG | lcuk, yep |
| 18:48.47 | noobmonk3y | yup |
| 18:48.50 | MohammadAG | noobmonk3y, it's a damn straight line lol |
| 18:48.58 | noobmonk3y | ;) |
| 18:49.23 | javispedro | adhoc and powersaving are incompatible |
| 18:49.32 | jacekowski | can anybody try if sudo rf -rf / would break their phone? |
| 18:49.47 | javispedro | rf: command not found |
| 18:49.48 | V13 | why not try this to the scratchbox? :-))) |
| 18:50.11 | MohammadAG | jacekowski, you ;) |
| 18:50.15 | lcuk | jacekowski, you seem to have made a typo in your script |
| 18:50.19 | spencer | i can't get the proxy when i call dbus_g_proxy_new_for_name, and the GError object returned NULL.. can anyone help? |
| 18:50.25 | jacekowski | rm -rf / |
| 18:50.25 | lcuk | please can you fix it, run a corrective cycle on your machine to confirm |
| 18:50.27 | *** join/#maemo crs (~crs@gentoo/user/crs) |
| 18:50.30 | lcuk | then let us know the fixed version |
| 18:50.46 | MohammadAG | javispedro, i'm not using powersaver :) |
| 18:50.54 | MohammadAG | errordeveloper, adhoc* |
| 18:50.54 | V13 | i tried it... it works ok.. |
| 18:50.58 | MohammadAG | wtf |
| 18:51.01 | MohammadAG | err* |
| 18:51.14 | MohammadAG | fails sometimes |
| 18:51.30 | V13 | MohammadAG: I was referring to jacekowski. |
| 18:51.31 | lcuk | more often than not :p |
| 18:51.32 | V13 | t:) |
| 18:52.18 | javispedro | C:\> rm -rf / |
| 18:52.22 | javispedro | command not found |
| 18:52.30 | *** join/#maemo aziwoqpd (~jperry@onigiri.lfx.org) |
| 18:52.32 | javispedro | but I typed it in that ms-dos thing!! |
| 18:52.47 | MohammadAG | javispedro, LOL |
| 18:53.03 | timeless_mbp | um |
| 18:53.04 | MohammadAG | lcuk, thanks for the input :P |
| 18:53.08 | timeless_mbp | anyone here familiar w/ vero.fi? |
| 18:53.18 | MohammadAG | javispedro, linux, on the N900 |
| 18:53.21 | MohammadAG | not me |
| 18:53.35 | *** join/#maemo smhar (~salman@94.79.216.77) |
| 18:54.03 | lcukn900 | rm -rf / |
| 18:54.05 | *** join/#maemo dmj726_n900 (~user@63.252.66.189) |
| 18:54.14 | lcuk | what was it meant to do> |
| 18:54.18 | lcuk | i dont tihnk its broke it |
| 18:54.27 | javispedro | MohammadAG: I clicked on the ms-dos thing in my n900 and typed that but the same happened!! |
| 18:54.27 | *** join/#maemo shinkamui (~KamN900@ip68-11-94-155.no.no.cox.net) |
| 18:54.53 | javispedro | MohammadAG: I had to install rover.sys just to get - working!! |
| 18:55.06 | noobmonk3y | just tried it on my ubuntu vm... |
| 18:55.10 | V13 | javispedro: first install cygwin |
| 18:55.11 | MohammadAG | detects sarcasm |
| 18:55.23 | MohammadAG | noobmonk3y, you're kidding... I hope |
| 18:55.27 | noobmonk3y | really did just try it... it's a vm, whats the worst thats gonna happen? |
| 18:55.30 | slonopotamus | X-Fade, or both :) |
| 18:55.39 | lcuk | norton says this script is potentially damaging and that it will nto be ran |
| 18:55.40 | noobmonk3y | will re-install it tomorrow anyway ;) |
| 18:55.48 | V13 | i remember ubuntu having a "protection" for it.. they had a patch that prevented that. |
| 18:56.01 | noobmonk3y | it certainly is doing something |
| 18:56.02 | red | timeless_mbp: yes |
| 18:56.04 | V13 | which of course was heavily criticized |
| 18:56.06 | X-Fade | Fixed the issue, will recover your app tomorrow. I'm way too tired after some intense hacking today :) |
| 18:56.10 | V13 | rofl |
| 18:56.14 | noobmonk3y | awwwww X-Fade |
| 18:56.22 | lcuk | slides a beer over @ X-Fade |
| 18:56.28 | slonopotamus | timeless_mbp, you should like it :) bug 9902 |
| 18:56.29 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9902 Autocleaner purged _all_ versions of sflphone-client-gnome from extras-devel |
| 18:56.43 | *** join/#maemo fangfufu (~fangfufu@global-2-68.nat.csx.cam.ac.uk) |
| 18:57.09 | timeless_mbp | slonopotamus: youch |
| 18:57.29 | *** join/#maemo Cazou (~detlev@host-213-213-221-24.brutele.be) |
| 18:57.35 | noobmonk3y | lmfao |
| 18:57.45 | noobmonk3y | X-Fade, build works quicker than normal, butttttttt |
| 18:57.52 | javispedro | noooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 18:57.54 | noobmonk3y | the icon has vanished from HAM completely lol |
| 18:58.08 | *** join/#maemo zeq (~s_j_newbu@2a01:348:1e3:0:a0ac:83ff:fe6d:d7c7) |
| 18:58.11 | timeless_mbp | red: i just got something in the mail from vero |
| 18:58.17 | X-Fade | noobmonk3y: Pretty sure that is not the builder's fault. |
| 18:58.17 | timeless_mbp | i'm trying to find an equivalency |
| 18:58.25 | noobmonk3y | will blame it while he can ;) |
| 18:58.37 | noobmonk3y | havn't changed anything though, may just need time to recover from it's seizure |
| 18:58.43 | red | okay? |
| 18:59.09 | red | i just got my tax papers from them less than week ago |
| 18:59.13 | slonopotamus | timeless_mbp, is it a sign that machines declared a war on people? :) |
| 18:59.22 | noobmonk3y | MohammadAG, Healthcheck is now working and in extras-devel l- minus the icon ;) |
| 18:59.32 | timeless_mbp | do i want http://vero.fi/?path=488,489&article=5460&domain=VERO_ENGLISH ? |
| 18:59.46 | noobmonk3y | lol!!! |
| 18:59.56 | *** join/#maemo briglia (~briglia@189.2.128.130) |
| 18:59.57 | noobmonk3y | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9902 maybe? |
| 18:59.58 | povbot | Bug 9902: Autocleaner purged _all_ versions of sflphone-client-gnome from extras-devel |
| 19:00.06 | X-Fade | Anyway, away from the screen. BBT. |
| 19:00.13 | noobmonk3y | ciaooooooooo |
| 19:00.22 | javispedro | cya |
| 19:00.30 | *** join/#maemo SWFu64 (~SWFu@unaffiliated/swfu) |
| 19:00.43 | red | timeless_mbp: if you ahve nothing to add or correct then no, but if say you have a long way to work and cannot use public transportation due a good reason - you can ease your taxes |
| 19:01.41 | red | like 0,24⬠* kilometers (home-work work-home) * days (usually 22) * months |
| 19:01.43 | *** join/#maemo briglia (~briglia@189.2.128.130) |
| 19:02.21 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@81.18.92.10) |
| 19:02.31 | *** join/#maemo marcusm (~marcus@0x573ebd02.cpe.ge-0-2-0-1104.mrbnqu1.customer.tele.dk) |
| 19:03.20 | smhar | what pdf viewer is available to N900? |
| 19:03.58 | *** join/#maemo sttwister (~sttwister@81.18.92.10) |
| 19:04.09 | *** join/#maemo konttori (~konttori@Maemo/OS/konttori) |
| 19:04.30 | RST38h | moo, konttori |
| 19:04.47 | marcusm | smhar: Isn't there a built-in? |
| 19:05.46 | smhar | I do not know. I am planning on buying an N900. I have N97 which have a shareware adobe acrobat reader that is expired already |
| 19:05.57 | ds3 | built in |
| 19:06.02 | *** join/#maemo rdorsch (~rd@p5B201958.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:06.17 | marcusm | Aha. I'm pretty sure there's one built-in. (: |
| 19:06.57 | Shapeshifter | smhar: the builtin one is very fast and does a fair job. only thing lacking is kinetic scrolling |
| 19:07.17 | smhar | good to know.. thanks |
| 19:07.28 | konttori | RST38h: moo to you too! |
| 19:07.42 | SpeedEvil | Shapeshifter: And arbitrary zoom. |
| 19:08.03 | ds3 | I much rather see it behave better with really really really huge PDFs |
| 19:08.14 | *** join/#maemo Sho_ (~EHS1@kde/hein) |
| 19:08.24 | *** join/#maemo n900evil (~Speedevil@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 19:09.42 | slingr | hrm.. any essential apps anyone can name off the top of their head |
| 19:09.54 | slingr | i recently got Sygic Mobile Maps, and Joikuspot |
| 19:10.26 | SpeedEvil | slingr: for me. Camkeyd - switch back to the desktop with cam button, flashlight, fbreader (ebooks) |
| 19:10.29 | konttori | slingr: picodrive, drnoksnes |
| 19:10.45 | SpeedEvil | slingr: xchat |
| 19:10.55 | slingr | yay :D |
| 19:11.03 | slingr | this should keep me busy for 5 minutes |
| 19:11.03 | konttori | slingr: 2g / 3g switcher status bar applet. |
| 19:11.04 | SpeedEvil | slingr: 'speedy' - net-speed measurerer |
| 19:11.06 | marcusm | DrNokSnes<3 |
| 19:11.07 | slingr | fbreader... |
| 19:11.10 | ds3 | camkeyd is a must have |
| 19:11.19 | slingr | yeah i got that one konttori |
| 19:11.21 | timeless_mbp | red: i need to file my US taxes |
| 19:11.29 | ds3 | and that double press to lock the screen app |
| 19:11.33 | konttori | slingr: 900 MHz kernel ;) |
| 19:11.34 | timeless_mbp | i'm trying to figure out if the numbers i need are 1.1 and 2.1 |
| 19:11.39 | timeless_mbp | i think they are |
| 19:11.43 | *** join/#maemo lbt (~david@Maemo/community/contributor/lbt) |
| 19:11.59 | timeless_mbp | 1.1 seems to be income (before taxes?) and 2.1 seems to be taxes (assuming no changes are required) |
| 19:12.03 | slingr | konttori.. overclocking the cpu? |
| 19:12.34 | SpeedEvil | slingr: it has issues - it is documented to shorten the life by the cpu maker |
| 19:13.16 | slingr | oi |
| 19:13.24 | slingr | well i'm fairly happy with the speed as is |
| 19:13.39 | *** join/#maemo trumee (~nobody@cpc2-cmbg15-0-0-cust1000.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:13.53 | noobmonk3y | slingr, healthcheck ;) hehe |
| 19:14.37 | konttori | slingr: yeah. well, it makes device fly. especially good for browser and flash |
| 19:14.45 | konttori | and emulators. |
| 19:14.46 | trumee | is it possible to 1) copy paste from conversations, 2) get to a previous message in conversations? |
| 19:14.51 | SpeedEvil | desktop command execution widget, gnu utils |
| 19:15.07 | red | timeless_mbp: doh, cant help with that - but surely you got ppl at your workplace who have experience of that? |
| 19:15.10 | marcusm | trumee: You get an IM-like overview. |
| 19:15.19 | timeless_mbp | red: today's the 12th |
| 19:15.25 | timeless_mbp | i have to file my taxes by the 15th :) |
| 19:15.37 | marcusm | trumee: So if you want to view a previous sms, just scroll a tad up. |
| 19:15.38 | trumee | marcusm: i want press the UP key and get one of my previous messages. |
| 19:15.40 | red | i see |
| 19:15.49 | trumee | marcusm: no, i want it in the input box |
| 19:16.25 | marcusm | trumee: Aha, well. I have not seen such feature, but after using XChat/terminal a lot on my desktop, I'd love such feature. |
| 19:16.34 | RST38h | konttori: Won't it shorten device's lifespan though? |
| 19:16.41 | *** join/#maemo Mek (~marijn@93.157.1.37) |
| 19:16.49 | SpeedEvil | marcusm: xchat does that on device too. :) |
| 19:16.55 | trumee | marcusm: hmm. most IM programs have that. comes in very handy. |
| 19:17.04 | *** join/#maemo peetah (~peetah@cha92-12-88-162-171-185.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:17.17 | marcusm | SpeedEvil: Indeed, but not in text messages etc (: Would love that. |
| 19:17.23 | marcusm | trumee: Indeed. |
| 19:17.30 | konttori | RST38h: I can't comment, as I'm on daddy month and cannot ask from experts, I'm only saying this as a normal geek / hacker. |
| 19:17.45 | *** join/#maemo peetah (~peetah@cha92-12-88-162-171-185.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:17.45 | trumee | well. this is the price we have to pay for a closed app :( |
| 19:17.48 | RST38h | ah, congratulations btw =) |
| 19:19.04 | konttori | thanks. She turns one tomorrow. |
| 19:19.04 | *** join/#maemo jcrawford (~jcrawford@unaffiliated/idle0ne) |
| 19:21.00 | trumee | ah, copy paste is possible in conversations. It works like in the browser, using the stylus and drag from left of the screen |
| 19:22.35 | *** join/#maemo Erod (~Juno@unaffiliated/erod) |
| 19:23.38 | RST38h | no wonder, given that conversations use web engine |
| 19:25.07 | *** join/#maemo thopiekar (~quassel@p57A15D78.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:25.09 | *** join/#maemo _berto_ (~berto@cpc2-camd3-0-0-cust349.hari.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:25.29 | timeless_mbp | RST38h: well, some browser engine derivatives intentionally break/disable such things |
| 19:25.31 | timeless_mbp | but yes |
| 19:25.37 | timeless_mbp | conversations chose not to break that :) |
| 19:25.53 | *** join/#maemo Flyser (~flyser@unaffiliated/flyser) |
| 19:25.55 | squidd | any idea if they gonna implement same kind of zooming to image viewer that is already in microb |
| 19:26.19 | timeless_mbp | squidd: that seems unlikely |
| 19:26.32 | timeless_mbp | officially microb is not the platform toolkit |
| 19:26.46 | squidd | i see |
| 19:26.47 | *** join/#maemo C-S-B (~csb@78.146.68.216) |
| 19:26.53 | timeless_mbp | for harmattan the platform is Qt, WebKit, DUI |
| 19:26.56 | timeless_mbp | give or take |
| 19:27.08 | V13 | lol |
| 19:27.14 | V13 | "give gtk, take qt" :-P |
| 19:27.17 | RST38h | and microb is supposed to die off? |
| 19:27.30 | V13 | webkit 2.0 is not ported to linux yet.. |
| 19:27.33 | V13 | does this ring any bells ? |
| 19:28.15 | squidd | kinda pitty if it dies. best browser in mobile so far imho |
| 19:28.30 | squidd | o/c there can always be better :P |
| 19:28.44 | timeless_mbp | RST38h: i haven't seen an official story |
| 19:29.04 | timeless_mbp | however microb's advantages over firefox for mobile are supposed to disappear w/ time |
| 19:29.05 | squidd | firefox is long way from microb |
| 19:29.08 | V13 | i mean webkit 3.0 |
| 19:29.16 | squidd | atleast in speed |
| 19:29.23 | timeless_mbp | microb 2's big advantage was process separation |
| 19:29.36 | RST38h | cackles nervously at the mention of firefox for mobile |
| 19:29.43 | timeless_mbp | e10s is fairly close to ready for at least oopp |
| 19:30.05 | timeless_mbp | i'm not quite sure when it'll be ready for content areas, but... |
| 19:30.27 | *** join/#maemo ml-mobile (~wat@32.173.207.152) |
| 19:30.31 | spencer | i can't get the proxy when i call dbus_g_proxy_new_for_name, and the GError object returned NULL.. can anyone help? |
| 19:31.27 | V13 | "A new major revision of the WebKit rendering engine has been posted by |
| 19:31.28 | V13 | Apple. "WebKit2 is designed from the ground up to support a split |
| 19:31.28 | V13 | process model, where the web content (JavaScript, HTML, layout, etc) |
| 19:31.28 | V13 | lives in a separate process. This model is similar to what Google Chrome |
| 19:31.28 | V13 | offers, with the major difference being that we have built the process |
| 19:31.28 | V13 | split model directly into the framework, allowing other clients to use |
| 19:31.30 | V13 | it." Unfortunately, it lacks a Linux port at the moment, but one assumes that can be fixed." |
| 19:31.40 | V13 | arg,, sorry for the multi-line! :( |
| 19:31.53 | marcusm | pats V13 |
| 19:32.02 | V13 | slaps himself with a large trut |
| 19:32.02 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@81.18.92.10) |
| 19:32.15 | V13 | buys an iphone |
| 19:32.19 | timeless_mbp | V13: "not my problem" |
| 19:32.31 | *** join/#maemo sttwister (~sttwister@81.18.92.10) |
| 19:32.37 | *** join/#maemo folnin (~folnin@2001:778:12:24::c0de) |
| 19:32.45 | V13 | learned his lesson.. punishment was heavy... |
| 19:33.32 | Shapeshifter | V13: huh. no linux support for a webkit browser version? |
| 19:33.37 | *** join/#maemo avs (~avs@a88-113-5-233.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 19:33.45 | Shapeshifter | ah apple. |
| 19:33.58 | Shapeshifter | rolls his eyes |
| 19:34.00 | V13 | not yet... i suppose qt folks will have to port it themselves... maybe... |
| 19:35.31 | V13 | off-topic [announce] [fyi] new game.. silly, fast and no-brainer... good for wasting a couple of minutes: "wok": http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/wok/1.0-3/ |
| 19:36.40 | noobmonk3y | hmmmmmmmm how does the "popular" apps part work in maemo downloads? |
| 19:36.45 | ds3 | give me netfront and throw out microb |
| 19:36.54 | noobmonk3y | have been getting 1/2k downloads a day and not anywhere near being popular ;( |
| 19:37.18 | lcuk | v13 so the aim of the game is to put your balls into a wok |
| 19:37.29 | V13 | and throw them |
| 19:37.29 | lcuk | can i ask, is it a hot wok? |
| 19:37.33 | *** join/#maemo Dantonic (~david@c-67-174-39-138.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 19:37.35 | V13 | :) |
| 19:37.51 | lcuk | its not offtopic tho :) |
| 19:37.53 | *** join/#maemo zs (~zs@188-220-50-10.zone11.bethere.co.uk) |
| 19:37.57 | lcuk | always pleased to see new titles |
| 19:38.12 | SWFu64 | Anyone get the chromium update to working in the application manager? |
| 19:38.19 | SWFu64 | It fails for me |
| 19:41.32 | *** join/#maemo embedded (~luigi@host123-89-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 19:41.38 | embedded | Hi all |
| 19:42.54 | *** join/#maemo ufa__ (~ufa@187.82.203.78) |
| 19:43.32 | *** join/#maemo lardman (~simon@92.25.56.50) |
| 19:44.05 | marcusm | Heya, embedded. |
| 19:44.36 | *** join/#maemo lardman (~simon@Maemo/community/contributor/lardman) |
| 19:45.29 | *** join/#maemo mece (~mece@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe3fdc00-44.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 19:45.43 | *** join/#maemo z4chh (~zach@nat-165-91-15-233.tamulink.tamu.edu) |
| 19:47.10 | *** join/#maemo hopbeat (~52d3c9f7@gateway/web/freenode/x-hldbpzppxkounrxj) |
| 19:47.50 | embedded | Hi marcusm |
| 19:48.31 | konttori | V13: any video / screenshots? |
| 19:49.38 | *** join/#maemo mairas (~mairas@a91-152-97-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 19:49.47 | V13 | of what ? |
| 19:49.53 | V13 | of the game? |
| 19:50.29 | lardman | jacekowski: You're the Chromium chap aren't you? |
| 19:52.31 | noobmonk3y | if anyone else has updated healthcheck to the latest devel version can they confirm the icon has re-appeared please? :D |
| 19:56.49 | n900evil | lardman: shine a light on him, and see. |
| 20:00.18 | V13 | is it possible to test portrait mode on SDK ? |
| 20:01.35 | lcuk | turn your monitor on its side |
| 20:01.40 | V13 | :) |
| 20:01.47 | lardman | n900evil: might dazzle me ;) |
| 20:01.52 | DocScrutinizer | you're aware of this? http://my.arava.co.il/~matan/repo/Modified_Hildon_Desktop.html - awesome. matan did a pretty good mod there |
| 20:01.53 | V13 | is the app supposed to turn or it needs any dbus magic ? |
| 20:02.02 | lardman | goes to grab some food + vino, bbiab |
| 20:02.03 | marcusm | lcuk: Shouldn't it be the PC? |
| 20:02.30 | lcuk | marcusm, good point |
| 20:02.46 | marcusm | lcuk: We wouldn't want him to look stupid, you know. |
| 20:03.16 | mece | I like it that chromium on n900 completely owns googles own phone on googles own test :D |
| 20:03.20 | mece | makes me all warm inside. |
| 20:04.06 | SpeedEvil | mece: Are you perhaps overclocking - leading the the warm feeling? |
| 20:04.27 | mece | no I'm not |
| 20:04.46 | lardman | it needs drag functionality |
| 20:04.58 | lardman | and is a bit slow on the rendering, but once rendered is bloody fast |
| 20:05.16 | mece | v3 results: http://twitpic.com/1f5kvu |
| 20:05.20 | mece | v5 results: http://twitpic.com/1f5fdu |
| 20:05.23 | lardman | actually it's not slow rendering, but rather insists on rendering everything before becoming responsive |
| 20:05.30 | lardman | goes back to the oven |
| 20:05.48 | mece | lardman, yeah, it's annoying. |
| 20:06.09 | mece | the competition: http://static.arstechnica.com/wifi-ipad-review/ipad-benchmarks2.002.png |
| 20:06.39 | Shapeshifter | what kind of comparison is that |
| 20:06.55 | Shapeshifter | are we comparing shopping trolleys to road trains now? |
| 20:06.55 | mece | javascript |
| 20:08.28 | mece | wot? |
| 20:08.51 | Shapeshifter | iphone and eeepc on the same chart? |
| 20:09.08 | mece | eeepc is for reference- |
| 20:09.31 | mece | just look at nexus iphone ipad and n900 chrome. |
| 20:09.35 | mece | it will make you smile., |
| 20:09.48 | mece | my n900 got 133 and 128. |
| 20:09.53 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@81.18.92.10) |
| 20:09.57 | mece | not overclocked. |
| 20:10.11 | *** join/#maemo sttwister (~sttwister@81.18.92.10) |
| 20:10.21 | *** join/#maemo shtef (~shtef@89-212-206-153.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) |
| 20:10.48 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@81.18.92.10) |
| 20:11.04 | DocScrutinizer | GAN900: where's your autoresponder for ".*overclock.*" ? |
| 20:11.14 | GAN900 | lol |
| 20:11.23 | GAN900 | All talk and no action? |
| 20:11.35 | GAN900 | I mean, come on, I'm a /community/ guy. :P |
| 20:12.23 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, some folks attach that label to me as well ;-D |
| 20:12.35 | *** join/#maemo shtef (~shtef@89-212-206-153.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) |
| 20:14.06 | Shapeshifter | mece: I got 168 just now |
| 20:14.19 | Shapeshifter | So now I'm supposed to smile? |
| 20:14.53 | mece | well the nexus got 63, so yeah. |
| 20:15.12 | mece | your n900 beat the crap out of googles own phone in googles own test. |
| 20:15.16 | Shapeshifter | well in any case, the chromium port for the n900 is quite nice, but it's just a dirty port, nothing more. In badly need for kinetic scrolling! |
| 20:15.23 | DocScrutinizer | has withdrawal syndrome from 1h of ssh to his N900 a few hours ago. Now it's at Nokia, to fix |
| 20:15.26 | mece | yep yep |
| 20:16.00 | ds3 | what did you break, DocScrutinizer? |
| 20:16.06 | *** join/#maemo mairas (~mairas@a91-152-97-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 20:16.22 | Shapeshifter | mece: but still, what does it matter? what matters is only the *feeling* of speed and smoothness |
| 20:16.40 | DocScrutinizer | probably the friffin main dlat plastic cable to connect the LCD had a trace broken |
| 20:16.49 | DocScrutinizer | friggin* |
| 20:17.16 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer: sad to hear :( |
| 20:17.20 | mece | Shapeshifter, well it feels really really fast once a page is loaded imo. But it's not comfortable to use, so I use microb. |
| 20:17.39 | *** join/#maemo dubzii (dubzi@baccara.mtveurope.org) |
| 20:17.40 | Shapeshifter | mece: well scrolling isn't smooth |
| 20:17.51 | mece | it isn't? |
| 20:17.53 | ds3 | DocScrutinizer: any idea how it broke? |
| 20:18.26 | Shapeshifter | mece: well I got used to the n900 scrolling performance, but it's *not* what I'd call smooth. This is plain personal preference. I just like smooth stuff. |
| 20:18.32 | Shapeshifter | like furry little kittens |
| 20:18.38 | Shapeshifter | ;) |
| 20:18.44 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, it's kinda ridiculous when your device works like a charm, but you can't use it because screen is black. I'm not *that* good in working blind without feedback |
| 20:19.04 | ds3 | VNCserver! |
| 20:19.12 | E0x | DocScrutinizer: use the force ! |
| 20:21.40 | *** join/#maemo NishanthMenon (~nmenon@72-254-135-232.client.stsn.net) |
| 20:22.36 | *** join/#maemo ufa__ (~ufa@187.82.198.196) |
| 20:22.37 | mece | I put a cursor on my n900 to aid use of x11vnc. Haven't remembered to actually try it. The cursor is nice though. |
| 20:23.02 | *** join/#maemo panaggio (~panaggio@recod-gw.ic.unicamp.br) |
| 20:25.59 | embedded | http://www.nokioteca.net/home/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=177787&view=findpost&p=1488332 :) |
| 20:26.07 | *** join/#maemo ufa (~ufa@fedora/ufa) |
| 20:28.56 | V13 | wtf!!! |
| 20:29.02 | V13 | you took n900 on another dimension :) |
| 20:29.57 | microlith | scary |
| 20:30.55 | *** join/#maemo anvith3 (~anvith@117.200.96.248) |
| 20:31.18 | SpeedEvil | Overclocking that way is complex. |
| 20:31.26 | SpeedEvil | (with a large imaginary component) |
| 20:31.30 | anvith3 | how do i restart the dbus service on my Nokia N810 NIT |
| 20:32.10 | V13 | I believe this is the first mobile phone running at 1.7GHz |
| 20:32.31 | dmj726_n900 | hmm...clutter might make an excellent base for making 2D and 2.5D games. |
| 20:32.31 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, you did send it back to Nokia? |
| 20:33.05 | MohammadAG | so.. how can one copy 12GBs from one linux device to the other without a hard disk |
| 20:33.14 | SpeedEvil | MohammadAG: rsync |
| 20:33.16 | V13 | try sftp |
| 20:33.21 | V13 | or scp |
| 20:33.24 | SpeedEvil | MohammadAG: I backed up my 16G laptop / with rsync |
| 20:33.27 | SpeedEvil | worked well |
| 20:33.37 | anvith3 | how do i restart the dbus service on my Nokia N810 NIT |
| 20:34.00 | MohammadAG | V13, that would take time |
| 20:34.02 | noobmonk3y | reboot? :D |
| 20:34.06 | MohammadAG | SpeedEvil, rsync? |
| 20:34.07 | V13 | anvith3: I believe there are two dbuses... one system and one user. The system dbus restarts most probably as /etc/init.d/dbus restart |
| 20:34.09 | MohammadAG | googles it |
| 20:34.21 | V13 | the user dbus is kill & restart but it may cause problems (e.g require rebot) |
| 20:34.26 | V13 | why do you want to restart it ? |
| 20:34.38 | V13 | MohammadAG: you want one file or many ? |
| 20:34.53 | E0x | MohammadAG: nfs |
| 20:35.05 | *** join/#maemo Gh0sty (~ghosty@ip-83-134-174-245.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 20:35.18 | E0x | you share the folder where the file are and mount it using nfs |
| 20:35.28 | E0x | in the linuxbox-B |
| 20:35.54 | *** join/#maemo LinuxCode (~LinuxCode@fedora/LinuxCode) |
| 20:36.04 | V13 | i no way is nfs faster that a tcp transfer |
| 20:36.15 | V13 | even if it has compression |
| 20:36.29 | anvith3 | @V13 i have sshed into the device in root login and tryin to run a python script which invokes another python script which inturn is accessing an application. i have created a .service file. it's on the lines of the libosso RPC example. |
| 20:36.30 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: repair shop |
| 20:36.52 | E0x | V13: i not mean copy the whole 12Gb |
| 20:37.11 | V13 | oh.. ok |
| 20:37.17 | anvith3 | the manual says to restart the app framework to restart the dbus daemon |
| 20:37.34 | anvith3 | but did not say how to do it on the device |
| 20:38.28 | anvith3 | V13: /etc/init.d/dbus restart throws error run-parts: unrecognized option `--reverse' |
| 20:38.29 | anvith3 | BusyBox v1.6.1 (2008-09-18 09:43:17 EEST) multi-call binary |
| 20:38.29 | anvith3 | Usage: run-parts [-t] [-l] [-a ARG] [-u MASK] DIRECTORY |
| 20:38.45 | *** join/#maemo ghostcube_maemo (~Ghost@p5B2D42C2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:38.49 | V13 | dunno... perhaps there is dbus reload ? |
| 20:38.57 | anvith3 | hmm |
| 20:39.52 | ghostcube_maemo | cute explorer update fails cause of missing qt libs :) |
| 20:40.10 | anvith3 | there is a force-reload option |
| 20:40.15 | anvith3 | but it throws the same error |
| 20:41.04 | V13 | perhaps killall dbus-daemon; sleep 1 ; dbus-daemon --system& ? |
| 20:41.14 | V13 | no! |
| 20:41.15 | V13 | wait! |
| 20:41.20 | anvith3 | :) |
| 20:41.20 | V13 | this will kill the user's dbus as well |
| 20:41.42 | V13 | ad I see that the system dbus is started as another user |
| 20:42.47 | frals | lizardo: cheers, will test it when i get home again :) |
| 20:42.53 | V13 | su -c "killall dbus-daemon ; sleep 1 ; /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system" - messagebus |
| 20:42.55 | V13 | could work |
| 20:43.56 | DocScrutinizer | killing dbus seems to reboot the system |
| 20:44.08 | V13 | oh... |
| 20:44.12 | anvith3 | yeah |
| 20:44.19 | anvith3 | i found out the hard way |
| 20:44.19 | V13 | sry :) |
| 20:44.23 | anvith3 | :P |
| 20:44.40 | anvith3 | i just tried to run-parts |
| 20:44.52 | anvith3 | which actually runs all the scripts in a directory |
| 20:45.01 | anvith3 | on the /etc/init.d directory |
| 20:45.23 | anvith3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.26 | anvith3 | silly me |
| 20:45.27 | anvith3 | :D |
| 20:45.42 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@81.18.92.10) |
| 20:46.04 | *** join/#maemo javispedro (~javier@69.Red-80-32-146.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:46.11 | MohammadAG | V13, a whole 12GBs of files |
| 20:46.33 | MohammadAG | Scratchbox |
| 20:47.45 | *** join/#maemo sttwister (~sttwister@81.18.92.10) |
| 20:49.28 | *** part/#maemo mece (~mece@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe3fdc00-44.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 20:49.29 | *** join/#maemo MohammadAG (~MohammadA@62.219.120.20) |
| 20:49.33 | *** join/#maemo mece (~mece@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe3fdc00-44.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 20:49.44 | E0x | MohammadAG: compress it |
| 20:49.50 | E0x | can save a lot of space |
| 20:49.54 | E0x | and the transport it |
| 20:50.02 | V13 | sftp -C |
| 20:50.35 | *** part/#maemo mece (~mece@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe3fdc00-44.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 20:51.07 | *** join/#maemo Hibernica (~chatzilla@188-222-253-84.zone13.bethere.co.uk) |
| 20:52.10 | noobmonk3y | mumbles |
| 20:52.40 | *** join/#maemo FIQ (~FIQ@unaffiliated/fiq) |
| 20:52.48 | anvith3 | i tried rebooting the device but the .service file is not getting registered . how do i check if the .service file is registered with dbus? |
| 20:53.15 | anvith3 | everything works in scratch box |
| 20:54.54 | *** join/#maemo valdyn (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 20:56.50 | *** join/#maemo z4chh (~zach@dhcp-128-194-74-49.resnet.tamu.edu) |
| 20:57.26 | *** join/#maemo rm_you (~Adam@66-90-162-231.dyn.grandenetworks.net) |
| 20:57.39 | *** join/#maemo pupnik_ (~pupnik@unaffiliated/pupnik) |
| 20:58.46 | *** join/#maemo smooph (~Miranda@e180135039.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:01.37 | MohammadAG | E0x, out of space :) |
| 21:01.59 | *** join/#maemo SpeedEvil1 (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 21:02.14 | E0x | MohammadAG: oh heh |
| 21:04.05 | *** join/#maemo zeq (~s_j_newbu@cpc3-rdng22-2-0-cust536.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 21:05.03 | V13 | is tempted to start a thread "speculation about the next tablet (N910) and its release date" |
| 21:07.17 | rm_you | anyone know if there is a more up to date version of something like MaemoVMWare somewhere? the one on garage says it is the final release of 1.0 but only has Maemo5 SDK Beta 2 |
| 21:07.23 | inz | V13, with clearly photoshopped "leaked" images? |
| 21:07.35 | V13 | inz.. no... just some fud :) |
| 21:07.41 | rm_you | since I still don't have my replacement n900 but am getting impatient, i want to start my project now on the VM :P |
| 21:07.41 | MohammadAG | V13, I'll come over and kill you :P |
| 21:08.10 | V13 | rm_you there is latest SDK which is not beta. |
| 21:08.31 | V13 | rm_you: http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/2nd_edition/ |
| 21:08.33 | rm_you | So is there a VMWare image that includes that? or is MaemoVMWare on garage the best I can do? |
| 21:08.51 | V13 | this one i'm using and it is *not* beta. |
| 21:08.55 | rm_you | hrm |
| 21:08.59 | rm_you | it says it is, odd |
| 21:09.02 | V13 | it is the final which can then be upgraded... |
| 21:09.07 | V13 | "Maemo SDK Virtual Images, 1.0 final" |
| 21:09.10 | *** join/#maemo shtef (~shtef@89-212-206-153.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) |
| 21:09.40 | rm_you | right |
| 21:09.47 | rm_you | but the changelog says it includes Beta 2 |
| 21:09.48 | V13 | Maemo_Ubuntu_Intrepid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.7z - 1693332116 - ut-of-box ready Maemo Final Fremantle 5.0 and Diablo 4.1.2 SDK and Eclipse IDE Virtual Image with Ubuntu Intrepid 8.10 Desktop (7-zip compressed) |
| 21:09.48 | rm_you | <_< |
| 21:10.02 | rm_you | alright yeah, the downloads agreement says that, i see now |
| 21:10.07 | rm_you | they must just need to update the site |
| 21:10.25 | *** join/#maemo Gadgetoid_mbp (~phil@cpc3-nrwh9-2-0-cust561.4-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 21:20.15 | V13 | ok... this 1.7GHz may be fake |
| 21:20.25 | V13 | a) it has an alarm set |
| 21:20.30 | V13 | b) it has 20h uptime |
| 21:20.37 | V13 | c) the fan seems still |
| 21:20.55 | V13 | d) the pwm connector of the fun seems to be not connected and instead just sit under n900 |
| 21:20.56 | MohammadAG | it is fake |
| 21:21.04 | SpeedEvil1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.09 | javispedro | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.11 | MohammadAG | don't bother |
| 21:21.15 | MohammadAG | he said it's fake |
| 21:21.23 | *** join/#maemo bholst_ (~bholst@92.117.75.163) |
| 21:21.33 | Shapeshifter | is startled that there's no #maemo-offtopic |
| 21:21.49 | Shapeshifter | where does all the silly talk go to? (t.m.o.? :P) |
| 21:21.54 | *** join/#maemo chffffffff (~chfffffff@cfoecker.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE) |
| 21:22.02 | V13 | :) |
| 21:22.05 | dubzii | V13 check this one out xD http://netbookhelden.de/sonderimg/7700mhz.jpg |
| 21:22.15 | V13 | lol :))) |
| 21:22.17 | javispedro | f.m.o ate my post! |
| 21:22.33 | javispedro | er.. f.m.c |
| 21:22.56 | toggles_w | lol |
| 21:23.22 | dottedmag | .oO(f.m.l.) |
| 21:23.51 | javispedro | forum.meego.com you pervert |
| 21:24.08 | *** join/#maemo gjl (~gjl@cpc1-seve21-2-0-cust257.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 21:24.40 | V13 | so.. talk was replaced with forum, maemo with meego and org with com... |
| 21:24.44 | V13 | what all these say ? |
| 21:24.50 | tripzero | zomg |
| 21:25.20 | tripzero | 7700MHz eh? |
| 21:26.39 | *** join/#maemo benh (~benh@54.200.49.122-static.velocitynet.com.au) |
| 21:26.48 | V13 | MohammadAG, SpeedEvil1, javispedro: looking at your "it is fake" words... you would make a good triplet... for singing... |
| 21:27.19 | javispedro | no, you should join and make it a quartet |
| 21:27.34 | Shapeshifter | just overclocked his n900 to 1.21jiggowatts |
| 21:27.36 | V13 | ok.. we need another one and go play basket... |
| 21:27.50 | Shapeshifter | also watched all three back to the future parts today |
| 21:27.52 | Shapeshifter | ;) |
| 21:27.57 | tripzero | lol, nice |
| 21:28.20 | V13 | killed a vampire |
| 21:28.23 | V13 | shoot an alien |
| 21:28.31 | V13 | brought peace... |
| 21:28.32 | trem | nite all, sweet dreams |
| 21:28.44 | pupnik_ | nii |
| 21:28.51 | V13 | bb |
| 21:29.01 | V13 | cured cancer |
| 21:29.05 | V13 | cured aids |
| 21:29.11 | pupnik_ | quartet would be a fun multiplayer to recreate |
| 21:29.13 | V13 | invented time travel |
| 21:32.42 | *** join/#maemo Jax (~cptjack@5e059f6c.bb.sky.com) |
| 21:33.40 | *** join/#maemo shtef (~shtef@89-212-206-153.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) |
| 21:35.08 | *** join/#maemo pidus (~gandalf@unaffiliated/pidus) |
| 21:35.42 | *** join/#maemo bbee (~bbee@unaffiliated/bbee) |
| 21:43.04 | *** join/#maemo vanadismobile (~user@217-162-187-41.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 21:44.40 | MohammadAG | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=607589#post607589 :) |
| 21:45.25 | *** join/#maemo pupnik (~pupnik@unaffiliated/pupnik) |
| 21:46.15 | javispedro | notes Xarchiver |
| 21:47.35 | MohammadAG | javispedro, Xarchiver? |
| 21:47.43 | *** join/#maemo sttwister (~sttwister@81.18.92.10) |
| 21:47.45 | javispedro | the one that was available for diablo |
| 21:49.05 | MohammadAG | never seen it |
| 21:49.28 | javispedro | well, it was the _only_ one.... :P |
| 21:50.01 | V13 | [not so] hype: Based on this: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=544861&postcount=3 don't you assume that pr1.2 will support live wallpapers? |
| 21:50.23 | MohammadAG | V13, it's already working... |
| 21:50.56 | V13 | ok .. the bug clears it: Yes, this live homescreen will 'fix' this bug. Will be available in pr1.2. |
| 21:51.18 | V13 | MohammadAG: with xcompmgr ? |
| 21:51.36 | MohammadAG | not sure |
| 21:51.48 | MohammadAG | V13, install my package and see for your self :) |
| 21:52.02 | MohammadAG | (it will be broken for blurred backgrounds, but it works) |
| 21:52.12 | V13 | i'll wait :) |
| 21:57.57 | *** join/#maemo SpeedEvil (~Speedevil@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 21:58.48 | Treibholz | hmm, any idea how to tickle the calendar-widget to reload the calendardb? |
| 21:59.57 | *** join/#maemo mardi__ (~mardi_@95.141.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 22:02.04 | *** join/#maemo zeq (~s_j_newbu@2a01:348:1e3:0:ca97:9fff:fec3:7dee) |
| 22:04.48 | *** join/#maemo Ken-Young (~Ken@pool-151-203-32-233.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:06.21 | javispedro | V13: afaik, it's hildon-desktop specific, custom protocol. not using xcompmgr |
| 22:06.30 | *** join/#maemo user__ (~user@108-189.echostar.pl) |
| 22:10.39 | JakubS | is there widget/application to show network throughput as graph? |
| 22:11.37 | JakubS | for example line chart with upload and download updated every x seconds |
| 22:11.41 | *** join/#maemo zeq (~s_j_newbu@cpc3-rdng22-2-0-cust536.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 22:11.54 | *** join/#maemo fqhuy (~huy@133.64.1.254) |
| 22:12.56 | *** join/#maemo FredrIQ (~FIQ@unaffiliated/fiq) |
| 22:13.17 | jacekowski | oO |
| 22:13.25 | jacekowski | google.pl is in black and white |
| 22:16.09 | MohammadAG | file-roller packaged :) |
| 22:18.45 | *** join/#maemo bleeter_ (~bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 22:18.46 | *** join/#maemo mardi__ (~mardi_@95.141.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 22:19.13 | *** part/#maemo mardi__ (~mardi_@95.141.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 22:24.51 | *** join/#maemo SpeedEvil1 (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 22:27.18 | *** join/#maemo dmj726_n900 (~user@63.252.67.49) |
| 22:30.22 | *** join/#maemo puwei (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/puwei) |
| 22:30.30 | *** join/#maemo tim (~timhardy@93-97-43-161.zone5.bethere.co.uk) |
| 22:30.45 | *** part/#maemo tim (~timhardy@93-97-43-161.zone5.bethere.co.uk) |
| 22:33.54 | *** join/#maemo Chewtoy (~chewtoy@c80-216-112-166.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 22:35.11 | *** join/#maemo tackat (~trahn@p5B08E8E4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:36.49 | *** join/#maemo tulkastaldo (~tulkas@97-83-126-16.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 22:38.19 | *** join/#maemo tgalal (~tarek@41.178.140.245) |
| 22:48.14 | w00t_ | any facebrick users: take a look at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=49866 please :) |
| 22:51.58 | *** join/#maemo NishanthMenon (~nmenon@72-254-135-232.client.stsn.net) |
| 22:52.31 | *** join/#maemo wazd_e63 (~wazd@83.149.8.45) |
| 22:55.52 | GAN900 | lol, chevrolette.com forces the iPad to to mobile version |
| 22:57.47 | Treibholz | hasn't experienced any website, that forced me to the mobile version |
| 22:57.55 | Treibholz | with the n900 |
| 22:58.02 | lcuk | w00t_, just put the damned poll somewhere in the app itself ;) |
| 22:58.20 | greenfly | w00t_: couldn't the sorting for the messages be a configurable option? |
| 22:58.47 | lcuk | there is no right or wrong ordering, merely what people feel is right |
| 22:58.55 | lcuk | make the app configurable and the problem is gone |
| 22:59.00 | greenfly | ^^ |
| 23:00.02 | w00t_ | 'make it an option' is always an option, but the value of sensible defaults is something which is often not considered |
| 23:00.56 | crashanddie | yo bitches |
| 23:00.56 | w00t_ | a keyboard that defaults to dvorak with an option to go to qwerty will probably have a higher number of frustrated users by default (even if it does have a niche appeal) |
| 23:00.59 | lcuk | you are scary |
| 23:01.07 | lcuk | w00t_ :) see my post |
| 23:01.24 | w00t_ | lcuk: we are on the same wavelength as ever |
| 23:01.25 | w00t_ | ;) |
| 23:01.31 | lcuk | smiles |
| 23:01.53 | w00t_ | btw I do have some limited ideas about in-application polling.. we'll see |
| 23:01.54 | w00t_ | :P |
| 23:02.02 | w00t_ | (if this works, I plan on doing it more often) |
| 23:02.16 | lcuk | polling hte server? |
| 23:02.18 | pupnik | dvorak = placebo |
| 23:02.20 | *** join/#maemo ech0Asus (~ech0Asus@c-76-31-129-15.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 23:02.24 | lcuk | does the website poll, or use ajax |
| 23:04.32 | *** join/#maemo timothay (~7bff0e21@gateway/web/freenode/x-lcupnhvblxhfurpl) |
| 23:05.10 | *** part/#maemo timothay (~7bff0e21@gateway/web/freenode/x-lcupnhvblxhfurpl) |
| 23:07.11 | *** join/#maemo raster (~raster@enlightenment/developer/raster) |
| 23:07.39 | *** join/#maemo MohammadAG_ (~MohammadA@62.219.120.20) |
| 23:08.18 | *** join/#maemo kevloral (~kevloral@223.85-85-181.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 23:08.21 | kevloral | hello all |
| 23:08.39 | tripzero | sup |
| 23:11.11 | *** join/#maemo panaggio (~panaggio@200-158-190-11.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 23:11.47 | *** join/#maemo ptl (~patola@187.57.94.73) |
| 23:11.49 | *** join/#maemo ptl (~patola@unaffiliated/ptl) |
| 23:12.03 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@81.18.92.10) |
| 23:14.06 | *** join/#maemo ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-14.elp.res.rr.com) |
| 23:14.37 | *** join/#maemo bbee (~bbee@unaffiliated/bbee) |
| 23:16.55 | *** join/#maemo ech0Asus (~ech0Asus@c-76-31-129-15.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 23:19.15 | crashanddie | lcuk: what's the difference between polling and ajax? |
| 23:21.00 | lardman | night all! |
| 23:22.02 | GAN900 | What happened to fiasco-flasher? |
| 23:24.06 | lcuk | ajax holds a connection doesnt it |
| 23:24.58 | MohammadAG_ | GAN900, it's there for some users |
| 23:25.01 | MohammadAG_ | not me though |
| 23:25.04 | GAN900 | Nor me |
| 23:25.08 | GAN900 | What the hell |
| 23:25.13 | GAN900 | flasher's there |
| 23:25.17 | MohammadAG_ | same |
| 23:25.22 | GAN900 | "Suitable USB device not found" |
| 23:25.38 | GAN900 | The whole regional firmware thing is really irritating. |
| 23:25.38 | MohammadAG_ | use fiasco-image-update |
| 23:27.39 | *** join/#maemo z4chh (~zach@dhcp-128-194-74-49.resnet.tamu.edu) |
| 23:29.59 | crashanddie | lcuk: nope |
| 23:30.24 | crashanddie | lcuk: ajax simply means that the webpage (or underlying code) talks to the webserver after the initial page load |
| 23:30.43 | lcuk | so, it polls? |
| 23:30.47 | crashanddie | asynchronous javascript and xml |
| 23:30.59 | crashanddie | doesn't matter whether it polls or not |
| 23:31.03 | crashanddie | could do either, still be java |
| 23:31.05 | lcuk | or it has a connection which waits for stuff to pop out |
| 23:31.09 | lcuk | it matters |
| 23:31.13 | lcuk | because polling == bad |
| 23:31.15 | crashanddie | s/java/ajax/ |
| 23:31.24 | *** join/#maemo FlavioFerreiraBR (~Flavio@189.71.127.208) |
| 23:31.50 | crashanddie | lcuk: usually a well-designed ajax app would only request info from the server upon user events |
| 23:34.08 | crashanddie | but again, it can be polling if required, or continuous. webchat.freenode.net is a continuous connection, mail.google.com uses polling and user-generated events |
| 23:35.09 | lcuk | you sure it polls? it sits with a connection most of the time |
| 23:35.58 | crashanddie | nha, if you shut down google chat there shouldn't be a connection |
| 23:37.17 | crashanddie | though it's been a while since I looked into it, so they may have changed the rules |
| 23:38.22 | *** join/#maemo tripzero (~tripzero@134.134.139.70) |
| 23:38.46 | lcuk | how often do you poll! |
| 23:39.07 | pupnik | regularly. with metamucil |
| 23:39.12 | lcuk | every second would cause meltdown every minute would be too slow for people |
| 23:39.29 | lcuk | haha |
| 23:44.11 | MohammadAG_ | knows the package he uploaded is going to fail |
| 23:44.35 | *** join/#maemo MohammadAG_ (~MohammadA@62.219.120.20) |
| 23:44.48 | MohammadAG_ | wow I hit upload and got disconnected here |
| 23:46.28 | TomaszD | well let that be a lesson to you |
| 23:46.37 | MohammadAG_ | lol |
| 23:46.38 | TomaszD | ;) |
| 23:48.14 | *** join/#maemo celesteh (~celesteh@sblug/member/celesteh) |
| 23:49.13 | MohammadAG_ | gives it another go |
| 23:51.20 | *** join/#maemo ech0Asus_ (~ech0Asus@c-76-31-129-15.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 23:52.20 | MohammadAG_ | grrr |
| 23:52.25 | MohammadAG_ | ~curse autobuilder |
| 23:52.26 | infobot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, autobuilder ! |
| 23:53.54 | *** join/#maemo ShadowJK (jk@terminus.enivax.net) |
| 23:53.59 | *** join/#maemo SWFu (~SWFu@5ad402ba.bb.sky.com) |
| 23:53.59 | *** join/#maemo SWFu (~SWFu@unaffiliated/swfu) |
| 23:56.10 | *** join/#maemo Only-One (~One2@host149-183-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:58.18 | *** join/#maemo SmilybOrg (Smily@BSN-143-112-123.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) |
| 23:58.22 | Only-One | Hi friends, I invite you to a new network of mIRC, /s -m irc.joinirc.org [join #CService for HELP] |
| 23:58.50 | haltdef | oh god |
| 23:58.53 | MohammadAG_ | :/ |
| 23:59.10 | MohammadAG_ | wonders why they don't just gline bots |
