| 00:00.08 | nidO | but its height and being a clamshell is what allows it to have such a perfect keyboard |
| 00:00.32 | ShadowJK | e90 is the SUV of phones: heavy, big, inefficient, expensive |
| 00:00.37 | C-S-B-N900 | wouldn't netbook fill that void? |
| 00:00.48 | nidO | e90 fits in a pocket and is a phone |
| 00:00.52 | nidO | netbooks are neither |
| 00:00.53 | C-S-B-N900 | the sony p series for example |
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| 00:01.03 | crashanddie | best keyboard is still on most blackberries |
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| 00:01.25 | C-S-B-N900 | but then you oqn a blackberry |
| 00:01.28 | nidO | whereas an e90 with updated hardware and a non symbian os basically *is* a netbook, with about as good a keyboard, that can fit in your pocket and make phone calls. |
| 00:01.38 | crashanddie | oqn? |
| 00:01.48 | C-S-B-N900 | own |
| 00:01.54 | C-S-B-N900 | fm kb |
| 00:01.59 | crashanddie | heh... My point exactly? |
| 00:02.34 | crashanddie | owning a blackberry isn't a bad thing -- only for business use though. |
| 00:02.59 | ShadowJK | I think the next communicator, if any, would still be symbian.. backwards compat for enterprise/business users.. |
| 00:03.13 | C-S-B-N900 | i know too many twats with them. |
| 00:03.33 | crashanddie | Writing a long email on a blackberry isn't an issue. The UI keeps up, spellcheck is on-par, extremely responsive |
| 00:03.34 | nidO | yes im afraid of that as well, or that nokia will kill the communicator series now |
| 00:03.48 | nidO | seeing as commercially at least the e90 was a flop thanks to nokia regressing the os |
| 00:03.51 | C-S-B-N900 | i think theres a real market for linux admin geek phones. |
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| 00:04.44 | openstandards | i just hope nokia understand that alot of their users want better calendar support....etc |
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| 00:05.09 | nidO | if they do release another communicator theyd probably have to be less over the top with the hardware anyway |
| 00:05.19 | nidO | I think these days a £750 phone is gonna be a real hard sell. |
| 00:05.28 | C-S-B-N900 | i think they should make the hw more open. an ultimate hacker phone. |
| 00:06.23 | openstandards | C-S-B-N900, won't work won't make enough money....look at the freerunner that pretty much flopped |
| 00:06.45 | C-S-B-N900 | like the n900, if they deliver im sure the community will pick up the rest. |
| 00:07.05 | trip0 | freerunner suffered things other than being open source |
| 00:07.15 | C-S-B-N900 | freerunner is not in the shopfront with nokia behind it. |
| 00:07.19 | trip0 | ie, an only partially working stack |
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| 00:07.42 | nidO | no "ultimate hacker phone" aimed squarely at geeks is going to be in the shopfront |
| 00:08.02 | openstandards | exactly... |
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| 00:08.18 | C-S-B-N900 | n900 is fairly under utilised by any else |
| 00:09.15 | openstandards | C-S-B-N900, the n900 seems like a good bridge give it to a geek and they will divorce their partner : |
| 00:09.27 | nidO | pfff |
| 00:09.37 | nidO | I got my n900 and my girlfriend steals it all the time to play blubbels |
| 00:09.45 | C-S-B-N900 | lol |
| 00:09.58 | openstandards | and shes still your girlfriend? :P |
| 00:10.06 | C-S-B-N900 | first time my gf touched it, she dropped it. |
| 00:10.26 | openstandards | yikes.... i've dropped mine enough |
| 00:10.28 | pupnik | it should really sell to folks who want a good browser also |
| 00:10.28 | nidO | mine has it on threat of snapping her hd2 in half to be careful with mine |
| 00:10.31 | ds3 | C-S-B-N900: is she still your gf? ;) |
| 00:11.01 | crashanddie | <C-S-B-N900> first time my gf touched it, she dropped it. <-- quoted |
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| 00:11.18 | openstandards | if the n900 had more enterprise features it would be alot better than it currently is |
| 00:11.35 | crashanddie | Well, for specific people, not everyone |
| 00:11.38 | C-S-B-N900 | yeah, i forgave her. shes not touched it since. |
| 00:12.02 | Robot101 | more quote fodder |
| 00:12.03 | Robot101 | :P |
| 00:12.09 | crashanddie | C-S-B-N900: I think that in order to qualify as your girlfriend, she needs to /touch it/ every once in a while |
| 00:12.16 | C-S-B-N900 | saying that im on n900 no. 3. this is my baby. |
| 00:12.41 | crashanddie | Robot101: glad you're seeing it too |
| 00:13.36 | C-S-B-N900 | is fully aware... |
| 00:13.45 | noobmonk3y | prods lcuk |
| 00:14.41 | noobmonk3y | smiles :D |
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| 00:16.31 | C-S-B-N900 | anyone had luck with the infrared remote control app? |
| 00:16.37 | nidO | some |
| 00:16.46 | nidO | half of the remote profiles seem to do bugger all though |
| 00:17.02 | C-S-B-N900 | i have a shit crt here and it ignores me. |
| 00:17.20 | silverbullet | yes it worked for me |
| 00:17.24 | nidO | I managed to cobble something together for my tv from various similar profiles, but its total pot luck as to whether the profile you want will actually do anything |
| 00:17.24 | C-S-B-N900 | and whines like a bitch |
| 00:17.31 | SpeedEvil | anyone seen since pr 1.1.1 the virtual keyboard not popping up in textfields? |
| 00:18.05 | C-S-B-N900 | silverbullet: what kind of range are you getting? |
| 00:18.17 | nidO | SpeedEvil iv had no problems with it |
| 00:18.22 | nidO | dont use it much but when I do it works |
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| 00:18.50 | C-S-B-N900 | virtual kb seems like asking for trouble? |
| 00:19.10 | silverbullet | speedevil, it sometimes is slow in coming up, and sometimes on a regular use, it fails to show on just 1 click, i have to touch many times on a text field to have it open |
| 00:20.00 | silverbullet | csb, i dont know about the range stuff, i have toshiba tv, and from the download remote area, i selceted toshiba and just randomly selected seom tv remote and it worked, all buttons that i added |
| 00:20.08 | tools | cool - im using irssi on a remote system with my new n900 :-) |
| 00:21.03 | silverbullet | i'm using qtirreco |
| 00:21.11 | C-S-B-N900 | silverbullet: well how far are you sat from your tv? |
| 00:21.30 | C-S-B-N900 | like usuable distance? |
| 00:21.32 | silverbullet | about 9 feet i think |
| 00:21.39 | noobmonk3y | has never got the ir working :( |
| 00:22.04 | nidO | probably using a duff remote profile |
| 00:22.06 | silverbullet | noobmonk3y have u used qtirreco ? |
| 00:22.07 | C-S-B-N900 | might be good alt. to a harmony. |
| 00:22.24 | SpeedEvil | silverbullet, hmm. not working at all. odd. |
| 00:22.38 | nidO | it would be a great alternative if the remote profiles all just worked properly and there were more of them |
| 00:22.47 | noobmonk3y | yeah silverbullet - tried on 3 tv's - none officially on the lists - but tried the random similar models, never got it working |
| 00:23.01 | C-S-B-N900 | my tv is an lg lcd but im home staying at the mother in laws and her tv is ancient. i cant find anything that works. |
| 00:23.20 | noobmonk3y | i have a wharfdale in my room, none on there :( but still no others work with it |
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| 00:23.40 | nidO | my yamaha separates are a no-go with gtirreco too |
| 00:23.46 | nidO | though I got it going for my tv, mostly |
| 00:24.17 | C-S-B-N900 | id really like it to work. |
| 00:24.38 | silverbullet | i thought the *download remote* had a pretty comprehensive list of makes and models |
| 00:24.48 | noobmonk3y | hmmmm none of mine ;) |
| 00:24.53 | silverbullet | hmm |
| 00:24.54 | nidO | it has a fair few, but its in no way comprehensive |
| 00:24.59 | nidO | and half of them dont work |
| 00:25.07 | C-S-B-N900 | but saying that it prob would work on *my* tv. |
| 00:25.19 | noobmonk3y | i do have 3 oddish tv's i suppose |
| 00:25.25 | noobmonk3y | but all under 3 years old |
| 00:25.31 | nidO | dont work as in = properly messed up, and result in the ir tx not even doing anything when you press the buttons |
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| 00:25.51 | noobmonk3y | nidO - nothing, no sign of life...... |
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| 17:42.25 | *** mode/#maemo [-o DocScrutinizer] by ChanServ |
| 17:42.53 | DocScrutinizer | ~botsnack |
| 17:42.53 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: aw, gee |
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| 17:43.02 | Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer: who'd you bribe? |
| 17:43.02 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 17:43.25 | satmd | ghostbusters! |
| 17:43.34 | DocScrutinizer | was too stupid to refuse |
| 17:43.36 | satmd | no err... not quite |
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| 17:47.52 | DocScrutinizer | Stskeeps: the canops got tired of me nagging them to do boring housekeeping tasks ;-) |
| 17:51.46 | GAN900 | lol |
| 17:52.11 | GAN900 | Stskeeps, it's all about the delegation. |
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| 17:52.58 | Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer: good :) |
| 17:54.10 | DocScrutinizer | Stskeeps: let me put it this way: one more chan to keep an eye on doesn't matter |
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| 17:55.10 | Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer: yeah, i know - i forgot a ;) somewhere |
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| 17:56.23 | C-S-B | loves fm transmitter listening to tunes over the radio or using the gps in the car |
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| 18:06.03 | andrewfblack | anyone know size of border around icons on desktop? |
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| 18:09.27 | Khertan | Hi ! |
| 18:11.23 | Arif_ | Hello! |
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| 18:12.10 | L0NELY-TR0LL | hello |
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| 18:12.41 | Khertan | ~ping |
| 18:12.42 | infobot | ~pong |
| 18:12.43 | L0NELY-TR0LL | hi |
| 18:12.54 | L0NELY-TR0LL | ~ping |
| 18:12.55 | infobot | ~pong |
| 18:12.59 | L0NELY-TR0LL | wow |
| 18:13.05 | L0NELY-TR0LL | ~pizza |
| 18:13.14 | Myrtti | oh, it's you again |
| 18:13.17 | *** mode/#maemo [+o DocScrutinizer] by ChanServ |
| 18:13.19 | L0NELY-TR0LL | NO!!! |
| 18:13.24 | L0NELY-TR0LL | It is not me!! |
| 18:13.42 | L0NELY-TR0LL | So.. what is new |
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| 18:14.02 | zaheerm-lp | some people don't have better things to do |
| 18:14.06 | GAN900 | Guy just doesn't know when to quit. |
| 18:14.07 | Khertan | ? |
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| 18:14.18 | L0NELY-TR0LL | hey |
| 18:14.21 | Myrtti | GAN900: gal, apparently. |
| 18:14.23 | L0NELY-TR0LL | it hurts |
| 18:14.29 | Arif_ | .ru? |
| 18:14.29 | aSIMULAtor | you have big balls? |
| 18:14.32 | L0NELY-TR0LL | really |
| 18:14.35 | GAN900 | Myrtti, women troll? |
| 18:14.36 | aSIMULAtor | like Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge |
| 18:14.42 | zaheerm-lp | L0NELY-TR0LL, you should have better things to do |
| 18:14.56 | L0NELY-TR0LL | zaheerm-lp For example |
| 18:14.58 | L0NELY-TR0LL | ? |
| 18:14.59 | Myrtti | GAN900: so I've been informed |
| 18:15.19 | aSIMULAtor | nice |
| 18:15.24 | aSIMULAtor | pwned |
| 18:15.28 | Myrtti | indeed |
| 18:15.29 | GAN900 | Myrtti, my world view has been shaken. *g* |
| 18:15.36 | aSIMULAtor | now |
| 18:15.39 | aSIMULAtor | if he was a real troll |
| 18:15.41 | aSIMULAtor | watch for hte onslaught |
| 18:16.02 | Myrtti | she's claimed that female ops are jealous of the attention she gets from men |
| 18:16.14 | Arif_ | we have female ops? |
| 18:16.22 | Myrtti | so far, she's managed to get herself banned from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic |
| 18:16.26 | Myrtti | Arif_: other channels do |
| 18:16.37 | Myrtti | though I wouldn't mind the idea on this channel either... *g* |
| 18:16.47 | Arif_ | ={ |
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| 18:17.22 | Myrtti | God knows I've seen stuff that would have earned atleast a warning on other channels |
| 18:17.54 | Arif_ | whistles |
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| 18:19.32 | Khertan | is happy theme is now implemented in pygtkeditor |
| 18:19.36 | Khertan | and it s works |
| 18:19.52 | Arif_ | whos implemented in whatnow? |
| 18:19.59 | Arif_ | :p |
| 18:20.06 | Khertan | i do it :) |
| 18:20.27 | Khertan | but not release it ... |
| 18:21.52 | GAN900 | Myrtti, lol, that's classic. |
| 18:22.34 | GAN900 | Considering the unfortunagely male-biased ratio of IRC I'd argue there's plenty of attention for everybody. *eg* |
| 18:23.15 | Myrtti | would love to have less attention, really... |
| 18:24.11 | Myrtti | especially calling me a whore or bitch or telling me they know my home address is the kind of attention I can live without |
| 18:24.35 | Arif_ | you really get that? |
| 18:24.37 | Arif_ | o.o; |
| 18:24.46 | Khertan | as i m still waiting the removal of pygtkeditor from extras repository ... |
| 18:24.52 | Myrtti | Arif_: joys of being an op on the biggest channel of Freenode |
| 18:24.53 | corecode_ | \o/ conboy |
| 18:25.10 | Gadgetoid_iMac | I missed troll... damn |
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| 18:25.24 | hugokernel1 | hi |
| 18:25.24 | Arif_ | so did you ever get a visit? :P |
| 18:25.37 | corecode_ | what's the biggest # on freenode? |
| 18:25.40 | hugokernel1 | anyone can help me about sixaxis controller and n900 ? |
| 18:26.27 | Myrtti | corecode_: /msg alis list * -min 1000 |
| 18:26.40 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Probably #ubuntu at a guess... as any ubuntu user gets autojoined? |
| 18:26.50 | Gadgetoid_iMac | hugokernel1: what's wrong? |
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| 18:27.06 | Myrtti | Gadgetoid_iMac: no, they don't get autojoined when they start the computer |
| 18:27.27 | hugokernel1 | i have read all thread on forum and much more but nothing... pairing with controller is ok |
| 18:27.35 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Myrtti: are you implying there are people using Ubuntu without running IRC!? |
| 18:27.56 | Myrtti | Gadgetoid_iMac: strangly enough, yes!!!11 |
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| 18:28.20 | hugokernel1 | my dmesg when pairing : generic-bluetooth 0005:4005:8AF4.0001: input: BLUETOOTH HID v0.00 Keyboard [CSR HIDEngine Keyboard] on xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx |
| 18:28.54 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Myrtti: does not compute! |
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| 18:29.08 | Gadgetoid_iMac | hugokernel1: what steps have you followed thus far? |
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| 18:29.52 | Gadgetoid_iMac | And have you removed the input plugin from the disabled list in the bluetooth conf? that farks it up |
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| 18:30.16 | Gadgetoid_iMac | ergo: it *should* be disabled, not enabled |
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| 18:31.06 | GAN900 | Myrtti, plenty of unpleasant people everywhere, I guees. :( |
| 18:31.14 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: this one : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=41693 |
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| 18:31.26 | DocScrutinizer | almost like in RL ;-P |
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| 18:32.25 | DocScrutinizer | in RL you got no ignorelist though, and /kick is going to be a violent act |
| 18:32.42 | Gadgetoid_iMac | hugokernel1: have you tinkered with your /etc/bluetooth/main.conf at all? |
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| 18:33.24 | Myrtti | DocScrutinizer: as an op I get no ignorelist either, and atleast with RL I can walk away, or just blatantly tell people to fuck off, which isn't what I can do wrt Ubuntu stuff |
| 18:33.45 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: Yes, i have tested all possiblities with DisablePlugin and rebooted every time |
| 18:33.47 | DocScrutinizer | hehehe |
| 18:34.13 | Gadgetoid_iMac | The line should read: DisablePlugins = network,input,hal |
| 18:34.26 | DocScrutinizer | (ignorelist) well you're supposed to not have any. though it still works |
| 18:35.17 | GAN900 | DocScrutinizer, yeah, but at least there's no real anonymity to make people worse. ;) |
| 18:35.30 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: yes, i have that |
| 18:35.36 | DocScrutinizer | that's a fact |
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| 18:35.50 | Gadgetoid_iMac | And controller set up with sixpair? |
| 18:36.12 | DocScrutinizer | except for police special sqads, and cu clux clan |
| 18:36.20 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: yes |
| 18:36.22 | ptl | * sigh * |
| 18:36.46 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: Pairing is ok, i see that in dmesg |
| 18:37.15 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: but, i have a new device in /dev/input named event4 |
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| 18:37.51 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: when i run evtest /dev/input/event4/, nothing happen when i tape on sixaxis button |
| 18:37.58 | Stskeeps | X-Fade: doubt it'll be noticable, but grabbing all fremantle sources for fun and profit :P |
| 18:38.12 | Tobarja_n810 | will the n810 charge via usb? |
| 18:38.22 | Stskeeps | there's a hardware hack for it, i think |
| 18:38.27 | Stskeeps | but not out of box |
| 18:38.46 | DocScrutinizer | Tobarja_n810: no, not afaik |
| 18:39.02 | Tobarja_n810 | ok thanks |
| 18:39.04 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Hmmm, I never tries any of that, just fired up an emulator and it worked |
| 18:39.41 | DocScrutinizer | Tobarja_n810: I could check the hw schematics, to find out if there's a way to implement it - if you're really that interested in it |
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| 18:40.10 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: could you tell me what you see in your dmesg when you press sixaxis PS button |
| 18:40.25 | Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer, Tobarja_n810: http://tabletblog.com/2007/11/review-kensington-usb-charger.html |
| 18:40.27 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: please |
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| 18:41.19 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Will give it a shot, with the controller off? |
| 18:41.33 | GAN900 | DocScrutinizer, Klu Klux Klan. ;) |
| 18:42.11 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: yes |
| 18:42.26 | GAN900 | Oops, N900 keyboard fail! |
| 18:42.30 | Gadgetoid_iMac | hugokernel1: input: PLAYSTATION(R)3 Controller (00:1B:FB:9F:2D:D0) as /class/input/input5 |
| 18:42.32 | GAN900 | -l |
| 18:42.48 | DocScrutinizer | Stskeeps: this kensington fake is about adapter USB->barrel |
| 18:43.04 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: ok, thank you |
| 18:43.14 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: i have « input: CSR HIDEngine Keyboard as /class/input/input4 » |
| 18:43.35 | DocScrutinizer | Stskeeps: ... not exactly about carging N810 via usb-micro receptacle |
| 18:43.39 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: and « generic-bluetooth 0005:4005:8AF4.0001: input: BLUETOOTH HID v0.00 Keyboard [CSR HIDEngine Keyboard] on xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx » |
| 18:43.42 | Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer: yeah, but still :P |
| 18:44.00 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Hmm, hugokernel1 is this using the package installed from repos? |
| 18:44.06 | Tobarja_n810 | well dang... that's not exactly what i was thinking about but it would do the trick. |
| 18:44.07 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: yes |
| 18:44.20 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: my sixaxis is not a real sony controller |
| 18:44.27 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Interesting |
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| 18:44.49 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.23767 |
| 18:44.52 | Gadgetoid_iMac | I can't imagine why that would make a difference, though, unless the "hack"/"driver" is looking for a specific identification string to latch on to |
| 18:45.20 | Gadgetoid_iMac | I'm using the sixad package, and a geniune DS2 |
| 18:45.21 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: i search in source driver identifier but i don't found |
| 18:45.36 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Well, that's that theory dead in the water, then! |
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| 18:45.46 | DocScrutinizer | GAN900: seen kbd driver hickup several times. usually closing slide fixes that |
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| 18:46.12 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: ok |
| 18:46.12 | GAN900 | DocScrutinizer, also: muscle memory fail. ;) |
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| 18:46.45 | Gadgetoid_iMac | I hate that Sonic loses rings by hitting spikes side on... what the hell! |
| 18:46.48 | DocScrutinizer | GAN900: (KKK) thanks :-) |
| 18:47.21 | GAN900 | DocScrutinizer, since, you know, spelling extremist hate group names properly is so important. ;) |
| 18:47.31 | jacekowski | GAN900: sonic? |
| 18:47.37 | jacekowski | Gadgetoid_iMac: sonic? |
| 18:47.41 | jacekowski | Gadgetoid_iMac: on maemo? |
| 18:48.30 | DocScrutinizer | GAN900: well I'm always trying to improve my spelling. It's abysmal |
| 18:48.53 | GAN900 | DocScrutinizer, spell check did a lot of damage to mine. |
| 18:48.58 | Gadgetoid_iMac | jacekowski: yes... |
| 18:49.09 | Gadgetoid_iMac | In MasterGear |
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| 18:49.29 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Blame hugokernel1, he made me go and get my PS3 controller, and one thing lead to another, and I'm playing Sonic 1 again |
| 18:50.04 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: ;) |
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| 18:50.13 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: Thank you for the help |
| 18:50.14 | wizkoder | hy everybody |
| 18:50.24 | wizkoder | is the n900 little or big endian? |
| 18:50.25 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Well the master system sonic is awesome |
| 18:50.33 | Gadgetoid_iMac | hugokernel1: sorry I couldn't solve it :( |
| 18:50.43 | hugokernel1 | I continue to seek |
| 18:51.01 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Start with a real DS2 :) |
| 18:51.02 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: Play for me ;) |
| 18:51.36 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Although that fake one you linked is very, very convincing |
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| 18:52.15 | cpt_nemo | Is there a port of emacs 23 for maemo? |
| 18:52.26 | cpt_nemo | Specifically one that is compatible with the N810? |
| 18:52.36 | ds3 | EH? |
| 18:53.01 | ShadowJK | wizkoder, little endian |
| 18:53.27 | wizkoder | ShadowJK: excellent. as is my laptop. thanks |
| 18:53.46 | LiraNuna | armel = arm endian little |
| 18:53.56 | ShadowJK | It wont even kill you for unaligned access |
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| 18:55.11 | wizkoder | ShadowJK: working on a blowfish algorythm for my program. So I guess I don't have to change nothing for deployment on the n900 |
| 18:55.27 | ebzzry | Hi! Is there a way to unlock the screen from the command line (via SSH). |
| 18:55.57 | ShadowJK | wizkoder, I'm sure there are already blowfish functions available in one of the included libraries :) |
| 18:56.00 | DocScrutinizer | GAN900: spellcheck for Konversation/4 is somewhat borked. Can't set it to "English" permanently, always switches back to "German" :-/ |
| 18:56.28 | lostinmirkwood | ebzzry:Been Looking for the same answer, unlock or lite the screen. |
| 18:56.30 | wizkoder | ShadowJK: couldn't find that. So I wrote my own ;-) |
| 18:56.42 | ebzzry | lostinmirkwood: Hmm. |
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| 18:57.29 | ebzzry | lostinmirkwood: I need to unlock the screen because VNC would otherwise be useless with it. |
| 18:58.13 | ShadowJK | wizkoder, well, openssl would be where I'd start looking :) |
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| 18:58.35 | ebzzry | I hope there's someone out here who could point out what routines are being performed when the keyboard is slid out. |
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| 19:00.14 | t3rm1n4l | hi |
| 19:00.14 | GAN900 | multilingual system-wide dictionaries are nice in OS X |
| 19:00.23 | t3rm1n4l | is there google summer of code channel for maemo ? |
| 19:00.39 | DocScrutinizer | GAN900: KDE4 has 1% of new features and 99% of regressions :-/ |
| 19:01.00 | trip0 | lol |
| 19:01.16 | LiraNuna | haha |
| 19:02.36 | lostinmirkwood | ebzzry:Found it, it's a DBUS Send Command, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=574066#post574066 |
| 19:02.48 | ebzzry | lostinmirkwood: Going |
| 19:03.32 | dmj726_n9001 | t3rm1n4l: I don't think there is but think it would be a really good idea. |
| 19:03.39 | lostinmirkwood | ebzzry:Just tested it and it works fine. |
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| 19:04.20 | ebzzry | lostinmirkwood: Sweet. Thanks a lot! |
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| 19:04.38 | ebzzry | gives some cookies to lostinmirkwood |
| 19:04.52 | Sho_ | DocScrutinizer: FWIW, the spell-checking stuff is in kdelibs, it's not Konversation-specific |
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| 19:05.08 | DocScrutinizer | ebzzry: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/DBUS#dbus-send-unlock http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/DBUS#dbus-send-unlock2_.28with_code.29 |
| 19:05.26 | ebzzry | DocScrutinizer: Going |
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| 19:07.03 | ebzzry | DocScrutinizer: Thanks a lot! |
| 19:07.07 | jonne|reconnecte | if you installed the cifs package, is it possible to mount a cifs share through /etc/fstab with maemo? |
| 19:07.18 | jonne|reconnecte | the same way you'd do it on a debian box? |
| 19:08.40 | microlith | jonne|reconnecte: yes, but you have to do some hacking to get it automatic on boot |
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| 19:09.04 | microlith | and busybox won't let you do it as a regular user (it ignores the user parameter) |
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| 19:11.09 | jonne|reconnecte | Hmm, I guess the hacking part would be a bit over the top |
| 19:11.45 | jonne|reconnecte | I'm ok with editing conf files and installing packages, but that's all I'm doing with this phone ;-) |
| 19:11.51 | jonne|reconnecte | thanks for the answer |
| 19:11.53 | DocScrutinizer | watch out fstab is autocreated on boot time |
| 19:12.22 | DocScrutinizer | aiui |
| 19:12.43 | Arif_ | hmm |
| 19:12.44 | jonne|reconnecte | I guess there's no other way to auto-mount my NAS when I walk into my LAN? |
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| 19:17.07 | Jaffa | anyone in the mood for some election-oriented wiki editing? |
| 19:17.09 | fnordianslip | i guess automount is ou of the question? |
| 19:17.14 | DocScrutinizer | Sho_: thanks. Probably it's best to switch to english spellcheck in kde-sysconfig |
| 19:18.31 | jonne|reconnecte | meh, I guess it's not really necessary to be able to access my music from my phone when I'm home, as I can just use my computers for that |
| 19:18.36 | jonne|reconnecte | would be cool, though |
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| 19:19.12 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: could you take a « ls -la » in your /dev/input when your sixaxis is connected ? |
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| 19:19.47 | Sho_ | DocScrutinizer: Possibly. The KDE 4 spell-checking implementation was originally designed to do language detection on a per-paragraph basis to support multi-dictionary spell-checking within the same document, but the developer disappeared at some point (he was actually presumed dead for a while) which meant other had to pick up the slack, and it didn't quite reach its lofty goals. Maybe some remnant of that detection stuff is going haywire for you. |
| 19:19.59 | Sho_ | *others |
| 19:20.11 | Gadgetoid_iMac | hugokernel1: you looking for something like 0 crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 13, 0 Mar 25 18:43 js0 |
| 19:20.25 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: ok, thx |
| 19:21.01 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: i don't understand, i have : event0 event1 event2 event3 event4 keypad pwrbutton ts uinput |
| 19:21.16 | Gadgetoid_iMac | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.16 | Gadgetoid_iMac | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.17 | Gadgetoid_iMac | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.17 | Gadgetoid_iMac | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.17 | Gadgetoid_iMac | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.25 | hugokernel1 | ok |
| 19:21.25 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: What's your kernel version ? |
| 19:21.54 | Gadgetoid_iMac | I have event0, event1, event2, event3, event4, js0, keypad -> event1, mice, mouse0, pwrbutton -> event0, ts -> mouse0, uinput |
| 19:22.23 | Gadgetoid_iMac | 2.6.28-omap1 pow pow |
| 19:22.51 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: ok, i don't have js0 |
| 19:23.39 | ebzzry | BTW, where is wmctrl? |
| 19:24.10 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Damn I love the music from Sonic bridge zone |
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| 19:25.38 | oly | hi, i have got easy debian on my phone, is there a way i can use the chroot from the terminal rather than using the icon ? |
| 19:25.40 | DocScrutinizer | Gadgetoid_iMac: be careful, the limit for pasts is ~5 lines in this chan, and seems is enforced quite rigidly |
| 19:26.07 | oly | basically i want to use it over ssh connection, but dont know what to type to launch the enviroment |
| 19:26.23 | Gadgetoid_iMac | DocScrutinizer: Thanks for the warning... but I like to live on the wild side |
| 19:26.44 | oly | guessing i just need to know the path to chroot against |
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| 19:27.44 | Gadgetoid_iMac | I categorically hate internet explorer. |
| 19:28.20 | ptl | how is it to categorically hate anything? |
| 19:28.59 | Vanadis | i love internet explorer |
| 19:29.19 | Vanadis | i spent 90% of my time on fixing CSS-Bugs in IE6 |
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| 19:29.56 | Vanadis | Basically, my whole salary is based on Microsoft |
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| 19:30.39 | ptl | Poor Vanadis. I feel pity. |
| 19:31.22 | ptl | How can you stand this pain and suffering? |
| 19:32.40 | Vanadis | well |
| 19:32.45 | Vanadis | it's very good paid |
| 19:32.56 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: Could you run /usr/sbin/sixad-uinput-sixaxis ? |
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| 19:34.09 | ebzzry | Any kind soul out here who would point to me where should I get wmctrl? |
| 19:34.10 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Kerpow? |
| 19:34.48 | Funnyface | meh, I was going to record video in a pitch dark room today, and it appears that the flashlight app can't run at the same time as the camera.. -_- |
| 19:35.21 | SpeedEvil | Funnyface, it uses the same driver |
| 19:35.26 | Gadgetoid_iMac | requires sixad, please run sixad instead, hugokernel1 |
| 19:35.51 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: Thx |
| 19:35.53 | SpeedEvil | Funnyface, anyway. That only works to some 5pcm distance. |
| 19:36.01 | Funnyface | probably, the camera app fails to open so I was thinking of something along those lines |
| 19:36.04 | SpeedEvil | more and you can't see |
| 19:36.09 | SpeedEvil | 50 |
| 19:36.15 | Gadgetoid_iMac | It also segfaults when given any parameters, nice! |
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| 19:37.36 | hugokernel1 | Gadgetoid_iMac: ok |
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| 19:40.21 | C-S-B-N900 | any going on in here? |
| 19:40.52 | Stskeeps | is really doing crazy things on his lazy evenings |
| 19:41.12 | Stskeeps | currently uploading entire fremantle sdk sources to OBS, modified the fremantle gcc to be for armv6+vfp, and seeing how far we get |
| 19:41.16 | Stskeeps | :P |
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| 19:41.45 | ptl | is there any dbus call to take a photo while the camera app is running? |
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| 19:41.59 | ptl | or to otherwise control the camera app. |
| 19:42.22 | Stskeeps | andrewfblack: i'll be a customer of your bubble bobble theme for sure |
| 19:42.52 | andrewfblack | Stskeeps: lol you seen screenshots yet? |
| 19:43.19 | andrewfblack | is thinking of holding all themes hostage until someone programs him a Weight Watchers Calculator lol |
| 19:43.54 | andrewfblack | Stskeeps: I mean Backgrounds not screenshots |
| 19:44.03 | Stskeeps | yeah, backgrounds |
| 19:44.05 | GAN900 | andrewfblack, if you're not hungry you're doing it wrong? |
| 19:44.12 | Stskeeps | i played that game quite a lot as a kid :P |
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| 19:44.34 | GAN900 | Suppose somebody could modify the Hello, World example. ;) |
| 19:44.38 | andrewfblack | GAN900: lol well I've lost 8 lbs in 4 weeks making me happy. Going to gym 3 times a week also |
| 19:44.44 | Arif_ | I want a jazz jackrabbit 2 port for the N900! |
| 19:45.09 | andrewfblack | GAN900: If I had time I would learn to do it my self in python but I have knee deep in about 5 themes right now. |
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| 19:48.01 | andrewfblack | Stskeeps: any ideas for the Bubble Bobble themes? I'm thinking it wont require alot of changes I might just stick with maemo-org theme with color changes, and some bubble bobble things here and there. I could go all out and make top bar look like platform and all but I think that would be to much |
| 19:48.05 | pronto | so i knowy ou can have a vnc viewer on the n900, but am i able to view my n900 via vnc on my desktop? |
| 19:48.53 | Stskeeps | andrewfblack: i'm not very creative in that area :P |
| 19:50.48 | lcuk | pronto, sure |
| 19:51.57 | andrewfblack | if I can find a copy of Inkscape for Windows that will run on a thumb drive I can do more at work I'm stuck with only Gimp at work right now |
| 19:52.05 | DocScrutinizer | konttori: (our home became or prison) couldn't agree more, esp wrt the bit about security framework concerns |
| 19:53.17 | konttori | thanks. I haven't followed up the latest in security fw developments, but it's very tricky to make something like that developer friendly for non-commercial development. |
| 19:53.20 | andrewfblack | Stskeeps: btw I was trying to make icons fit in between levels on background but I either need to increase space another 20 pixels or so or lose the the border around icons. |
| 19:53.25 | hrw | re |
| 19:53.54 | Stskeeps | wb hrw |
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| 19:54.14 | hrw | I just answered to konttori's mail |
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| 19:54.42 | ptl | btw |
| 19:54.49 | ptl | isn't there inkscape for the N900? |
| 19:55.01 | DocScrutinizer | konttori: I'd dare to state it's inpossible |
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| 19:56.00 | dmj726_n9001 | no inkscape, just mypaint. |
| 19:56.10 | ptl | mypaint is not vectorial, is it? |
| 19:56.35 | hrw | ptl: I cannot imagine using inkscape on 800x480 highdpi screen |
| 19:56.58 | konttori | I agree. Me? I would just give it up completely. I don't see the point of it at all. Wel, for the only thing I do see the point is blocking cellmo access. But that's it. |
| 19:56.58 | andrewfblack | ptl: no inkscape on n900 except for with easy debian whihc hates me |
| 19:57.20 | andrewfblack | hrw: if I could get inkscape on here I would use it everyday |
| 19:57.29 | konttori | and even for that it's overkill. |
| 19:57.48 | dmj726_n9001 | inkscape is barely able to scale to 1024x600. |
| 19:58.05 | dmj726_n9001 | virtual machine? |
| 19:58.07 | Stskeeps | konttori: i see a benefit to it in a world where devices are more promiscious than an american girl on exchange in europe.. |
| 19:58.22 | ptl | hrw: you'd have to hide most toolbars and UI, for sure |
| 19:58.25 | Stskeeps | and the fact any extras app could technically blow up the battery |
| 20:00.17 | ShadowJK | thinks that's harder/impossible on n900 |
| 20:00.21 | hrw | wants qt 4.6 on users devices |
| 20:00.21 | Vanadis | is anybody playing diablo through psx4all? |
| 20:00.26 | timeless_mbp | hi konttori |
| 20:00.58 | timeless_mbp | wants 4.8 |
| 20:01.00 | konttori | Stskeeps: any interesting security flaws will anyway come in more sneaky forms. |
| 20:01.06 | konttori | qt 4.8? |
| 20:01.11 | timeless_mbp | why not? |
| 20:01.22 | timeless_mbp | everyone's asking for 4.7 |
| 20:01.22 | RST38h | moos at konttori |
| 20:01.27 | timeless_mbp | so it's too pedestrian :) |
| 20:01.37 | timeless_mbp | konttori: is it true that my mail widget bug is going to be fixed? :) |
| 20:01.44 | konttori | target it to at leash have 4.7 asap. Yeah, I also want 4.8. |
| 20:01.53 | timeless_mbp | heh :) |
| 20:02.05 | konttori | 4.7 is really a minor step, but 4.8 looks to be stellar |
| 20:02.21 | RST38h | suggests anyone working on Maemo security carefully check the royal clusterfuck of symbian 9.x |
| 20:02.33 | konttori | sorry, which mail widget bug. I don't remember discussing such with you. |
| 20:02.34 | timeless_mbp | RST38h: we prefer to make our own :) |
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| 20:02.41 | GAN900 | lol, Veyron downtown |
| 20:02.43 | timeless_mbp | konttori: bugmail cc by me this week |
| 20:02.52 | GAN900 | Gotta love race car drivers. |
| 20:02.52 | konttori | anyway, I'm on daddy month, so no clues about what's going on internally |
| 20:02.53 | ShadowJK | RST38h, they probably think it's good there :P |
| 20:03.01 | RST38h | timeless: So, which company is going to make your security cluster fuck its business model this time? |
| 20:03.19 | RST38h | (or, to be direct, who is gonna be signing binaries for $60 a pop?) |
| 20:04.16 | timeless_mbp | i wouldn't know :) |
| 20:04.28 | timeless_mbp | but trust me, i really don't want to know :) |
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| 20:05.08 | ShadowJK | At one point there were developer certificates so you could sign binaries for one specific device yourself :) |
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| 20:05.24 | ShadowJK | but then they stopped sellng those certs |
| 20:05.41 | RST38h | javispedro |
| 20:05.53 | javispedro | evening |
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| 20:06.00 | RST38h | ShadowJK: Keyword is "specific device" |
| 20:06.05 | Stskeeps | evening javispedro |
| 20:06.20 | asj | s60 capabilities are the worst thing I've ever dealt with |
| 20:06.34 | RST38h | ShadowJK: + I would personally curse with the bloody diarrhea the guy who made getting IMEI a protected capability |
| 20:06.34 | ShadowJK | Yeah but atleast that let you write stuff for yourself |
| 20:06.39 | timeless_mbp | asj: i promise someone will develop something much worse :) |
| 20:06.50 | RST38h | ShadowJK: How generous! |
| 20:06.56 | ShadowJK | RST38h, or using the gps |
| 20:07.02 | asj | timeless_mbp: they haven't yet |
| 20:07.10 | timeless_mbp | someone will! |
| 20:07.17 | RST38h | ShadowJK: actually, you could use the external GPS BUT NOT the internal one |
| 20:07.25 | RST38h | (notice the past tense too, it is there for a reason) |
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| 20:08.18 | asj | that's ok, I can now sign "all -tcb" so that solves most of my problems ;) |
| 20:09.16 | timeless_mbp | ? |
| 20:09.50 | asj | timeless_mbp: that covers most s60 caps to do anything |
| 20:10.33 | timeless_mbp | kicks some random organization in SF.CA.US |
| 20:10.46 | timeless_mbp | proceeds to complain to chase |
| 20:10.54 | Myrtti | oh, sf. near miss |
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| 20:14.30 | ShadowJK | hopes batterymeter will recalibrate itself after discharge/charge cycle :D |
| 20:14.52 | ShadowJK | it's doing some funny seesawing now.. |
| 20:15.11 | ShadowJK | (with mugen 2400mAh batt) |
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| 20:15.21 | timeless_mbp | goes through a phone maze dealing w/ Chase bank |
| 20:15.58 | timeless_mbp | how much time do you guys get w/ that? |
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| 20:17.12 | ShadowJK | hasn't managed to drain it yet and is watching videos while ircing on hspa |
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| 20:20.38 | ptl | which one is better? Mer or easy-debian? |
| 20:21.24 | timeless_mbp | for what purpose? |
| 20:21.29 | ShadowJK | Not exactly comparable? |
| 20:21.41 | timeless_mbp | s/exactly/remotely/ |
| 20:21.59 | asj | ShadowJK: do you have a cart to haul your phone around behind you now? that batt is huge |
| 20:22.16 | ShadowJK | Still fits in jeans pocket |
| 20:22.21 | asj | wow |
| 20:22.43 | ShadowJK | and the edges are curved so I can even slide it into pocket onehanded |
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| 20:23.32 | ShadowJK | I guess a 1800mAh battery would add less thickness and be a middle option |
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| 20:23.55 | jonne|reconnecte | is there some sort of buddy list widget for your empathy contacts? |
| 20:23.57 | ShadowJK | but I suspect they're getting fed up with the n900 users by now :) |
| 20:26.08 | hd1 | would it be possible to have MyDocs be an NFS mount or is that not going to work? |
| 20:26.25 | hd1 | specifically, an NFS mount from FreeBSD |
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| 20:27.50 | trip0 | hd1: maybe. depends on whether or not nfs is installed |
| 20:28.30 | DocScrutinizer | thinks it's a pity meego-meeting wasn't inclined to elaborate on the whole security-framework and locked-bootloader shit topic, and points to http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5115609628556940516&q=trusted+computing# |
| 20:29.13 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer: it's too late for that. enjoy your unlocked but closed bootloader while it lasts. |
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| 20:29.41 | DocScrutinizer | yo :-( |
| 20:29.59 | Aquarina | hi |
| 20:30.29 | lcuk | hi Aquarina |
| 20:30.37 | Aquarina | does maemo need mmc2? can I just format it with something else? |
| 20:31.30 | Aquarina | I'd like to get rid of it apearing on the device |
| 20:31.42 | Aquarina | and would like to use it for mer |
| 20:31.49 | Aquarina | (n810) |
| 20:32.24 | javispedro | lols at the nokia design by community polls |
| 20:32.55 | javispedro | clearly, the right way to "enhance" a poll is to put a big meter near the options that tells you how much the option you're going to vote is liked by Nokia |
| 20:33.59 | javispedro | invokes Godwin's Law: http://tamoggemon.com/blog/contents/2006/August/thabigobvious/paper.jpg |
| 20:34.41 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: ack |
| 20:34.54 | DocScrutinizer | largely useless fake |
| 20:35.49 | lcuk | javispedro, didnt you regiger yourself in the election as ">>>>>>>>> Javis <<<<<<<<<<<" |
| 20:35.53 | hd1 | it is installed |
| 20:35.54 | DocScrutinizer | unless Nokia is using the results for a completely different purpose than stated in the 'poll' |
| 20:36.14 | javispedro | lcuk: I hope not :S :) |
| 20:36.21 | lcuk | heh |
| 20:36.29 | FlavioFerreiraBR | i need of automake-1.10 for fremantle. Someone know if this version exists |
| 20:36.31 | FlavioFerreiraBR | ? |
| 20:36.54 | lcuk | FlavioFerreiraBR, which version have you discovered |
| 20:37.28 | Aquarina | any way to print to a samba shared printer from maemo? |
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| 20:45.50 | C-S-B-N900 | was there a gavin in here earlier? |
| 20:46.11 | C-S-B-N900 | wonder if it was gavin de vine of glastonbury. |
| 20:46.41 | C-S-B-N900 | theres one in linux format talking about n900. |
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| 20:49.14 | RST38h | javispedro: ja, ja, volskwagen |
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| 20:54.45 | gavin | there is a gavin in here now |
| 20:55.06 | gavin | I am not of vine, nor glastonbury |
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| 20:55.47 | C-S-B-N900 | well hello anyway. |
| 20:57.53 | gavin | hi :) |
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| 20:58.31 | FlavioFerreiraBR | <lcuk> I found 1.9 at maemo repositorys , but i need of 1.10 |
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| 21:00.12 | lcuk | FlavioFerreiraBR, http://maemo.org/packages/view/automake/ |
| 21:00.16 | lcuk | read the description |
| 21:00.20 | lcuk | i think its automake 1.1 |
| 21:00.47 | lcuk | for future reference, the maemo package search http://maemo.org/packages/ |
| 21:01.02 | lcuk | shows all available versions based on keyword search |
| 21:01.05 | Shapeshifter | people haven't tried compiling chromium for the n900, have they? I read it can be compiled for ARM... |
| 21:01.10 | lcuk | so typing automake in there was enough |
| 21:02.46 | javispedro | google's chromium? |
| 21:03.31 | FlavioFerreiraBR | thanks |
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| 21:04.31 | Shapeshifter | javispedro: yes |
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| 21:04.46 | javispedro | then, i at least didn't :) |
| 21:04.50 | C-S-B-N900 | we cant use the front facing camera for sky can we? |
| 21:05.13 | ds3 | has anyone ran into a situation where you just can't switch apps on the n900? |
| 21:05.14 | C-S-B-N900 | *skype |
| 21:05.25 | C-S-B-N900 | nope. |
| 21:06.04 | ds3 | heh so once again, I alone hit the corner cases |
| 21:07.23 | Stskeeps | ctrl-backspace or camera button? |
| 21:07.54 | ds3 | nope |
| 21:08.06 | ds3 | I even have the camera button switcher daemon thing |
| 21:08.32 | Shapeshifter | javispedro: I wonder how well it would fair but I'm too lazy to crosscompile right now ;) |
| 21:08.43 | ds3 | I was sort of impressed at how well it manage to grab things; opening the camera would get the camera app to run in the background ! |
| 21:08.46 | Shapeshifter | it's quite nippy on a desktop, but might have high ram usage. |
| 21:09.05 | ds3 | and power button's kill current app didn't do anything either |
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| 21:18.35 | FlavioFerreiraBR | someone has been used ODE (OPEN DYNAMICS ENGINE) |
| 21:18.37 | FlavioFerreiraBR | ? |
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| 21:19.22 | C-S-B-N900 | im fed up of pm on the wifi timing out the connection. |
| 21:19.37 | C-S-B-N900 | anyone else get this? |
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| 21:21.15 | javispedro | no. |
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| 21:21.59 | C-S-B-N900 | :( prob the ap. |
| 21:22.20 | C-S-B-N900 | and what pm setting are you? |
| 21:22.48 | javispedro | default (aka max) |
| 21:23.46 | C-S-B-N900 | mmm... |
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| 21:24.20 | C-S-B-N900 | ive moved up to intermediate and it still goes dead here until i reconnect. |
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| 21:24.55 | C-S-B-N900 | it doesn't lose connection,just get nothing in the browser |
| 21:25.08 | C-S-B-N900 | and i cant ping. |
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| 21:26.15 | FlavioFerreiraBR | someone know ODE project. (OPEN DYNAMICS ENGINE) |
| 21:26.16 | FlavioFerreiraBR | ? |
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| 21:29.28 | ptl | I don't, flavio |
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| 21:31.44 | DocScrutinizer | ds3: seen this when heavy swapping brings everything to a temporary halt - longest freeze I seen was ~20min |
| 21:32.59 | DocScrutinizer | ds3: leving a youtube browser win running in background seems to frequently create issues like that |
| 21:33.08 | DocScrutinizer | leaving even |
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| 21:37.44 | ds3 | DocScrutinizier: I am pretty sure this wasn't a cpu/swapping thing |
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| 21:38.05 | ds3 | what happened was - someone send me a RTF file as an attachment. I have the Koffice viewer thingie installed. |
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| 21:38.44 | ds3 | I click on the file to open it. Koffice viewer gets confused and pops up a dialog asking for what it is. but it won't let me select anything, or cancel out of it. |
| 21:38.56 | DocScrutinizer | you all probably know the requester "some javascript in your webpage is slowing down browser execution. Kill? [yes/no]" (OWTTE). I'd consider it useful to have a similar requester rised by a daemon, whenever an app is going loose with excessive malloc or cpu-load |
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| 21:41.51 | C-S-B-N900 | not seen that one docscrutinizer, i agree with your proposal though. |
| 21:42.05 | DocScrutinizer | ds3: I had a similar problem with HAM (iirc) rising a requester but that requester bas *behind* the main win. And of course it was modal so I couldn't kill the app |
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| 21:42.42 | C-S-B-N900 | my mp3 playback is getting jumping as i have xchat and a couple of browsers open |
| 21:43.12 | crashanddie_ | C-S-B-N900: and that already exists |
| 21:43.18 | crashanddie_ | sorry, wrong nick |
| 21:43.27 | crashanddie_ | DocScrutinizer: and that already exists |
| 21:43.38 | Shapeshifter | firefox is so freakin fast. it's what i'd expect of a browser. what a surprise. |
| 21:44.12 | crashanddie_ | DocScrutinizer: if an app is sucking off the transistors, and you try to close it, because the watchdog doesn't get a reply within x cycles, you'll get a popup "Window not responding, force quit execution?" |
| 21:44.13 | DocScrutinizer | crashanddie_: heh, great :-) Wasn't aware - how's the name |
| 21:44.20 | C-S-B-N900 | id use firefox if it supported flash |
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| 21:44.42 | Shapeshifter | I hardly ever use flash :) |
| 21:44.50 | crashanddie_ | I'm pretty sure we could definitely improve the thread scheduler |
| 21:44.56 | crashanddie_ | don't remember which one we're using atm |
| 21:45.05 | DocScrutinizer | crashanddie_: yes, I know that one. Only triggers on failing close xmsg |
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| 21:48.50 | DocScrutinizer | C-S-B-N900: that's :-/. Tried renicing mediaplayer (or probably gstreamer or whatever mediaplayer uses to process the mp3)? |
| 21:49.27 | C-S-B-N900 | pretty ghetto solution. |
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| 21:49.44 | C-S-B-N900 | and no i didn't. |
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| 21:50.40 | DocScrutinizer | not really. If implemented the right way, means include the 'nice -n -5 <whatever process>' in the right place |
| 21:51.35 | C-S-B-N900 | but would it take a cpu cycle away from say phone or a daemon etc |
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| 21:52.48 | C-S-B-N900 | i think media player is just being greedy. |
| 21:53.20 | C-S-B-N900 | since closing a browser its ok. |
| 21:53.23 | DocScrutinizer | heh, priority (aka niceness) doesn't take away cpu cycles from any process in itself. It just assigns better chances to get cpu cycles just in time, to the higer priorized process |
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| 21:56.44 | DocScrutinizer | (greedy) so this would tell me it's browser that's greedy, not mediaplayer |
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| 22:06.04 | L0NELY-TR0LL | hello))) |
| 22:06.40 | L0NELY-TR0LL | oh! my eyes! i forget my eyes! |
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| 22:06.45 | L0NELY-TR0LL | here it is : |
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| 22:07.09 | L0NELY-TR0LL | xe2000 Do you use Windows 2000? |
| 22:07.39 | L0NELY-TR0LL | Flyser Hello! What mean your nickname? |
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| 22:08.36 | L0NELY-TR0LL | Elie Hello! |
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| 22:11.20 | C-S-B-N900 | i am going to kill who ever implemented the n900 power management on wifi. |
| 22:11.41 | javispedro | not your wifi ap manufacturer? |
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| 22:15.39 | C-S-B-N900 | maybe them as well. |
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| 22:29.07 | xe2000 | Hi i'm looking for a single conversation time count, on my n900. But i cant finde this. Can anybody help me? |
| 22:29.52 | xe2000 | similar of S60 |
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| 22:30.07 | crashanddie | xe2000: conversation time count? |
| 22:30.11 | SpeedEvil | conversation time count? |
| 22:30.20 | crashanddie | ~ping |
| 22:30.21 | infobot | ~pong |
| 22:30.38 | xe2000 | call log and sms protocol |
| 22:31.06 | crashanddie | xe2000: in case you didn't understand it from two people questioning the most fundamental part of your initial message: ELABORATE |
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| 22:33.28 | ptl | waiting for xe2000 to elaborate, he's curious |
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| 22:34.19 | xe2000 | i mean for example http://www.connect.de/themen_spezial/28691587_156d3dd27e.jpg |
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| 22:35.19 | bleeter | well, I'm confused |
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| 22:35.23 | ptl | me too |
| 22:35.30 | ptl | I can't see the 'time' in this 'time counter' |
| 22:35.37 | iryge | hey stskeeps, still up? |
| 22:35.45 | sp3000 | timeless_mbp: http://tinyurl.com/yd5vagf there's totally like people on it think there may be an app for that, though I'm not wure if it worked out that well the last time I tried |
| 22:35.53 | sp3000 | the time is hidden in the next level |
| 22:35.55 | xe2000 | hmm sorry i cant find a pic |
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| 22:36.28 | sp3000 | er, s/timeless_mbp: http://tinyurl.com/yd5vagf there's totally like people on it/I/ |
| 22:36.42 | sp3000 | the keys are like right next to each other |
| 22:38.08 | trem | nite all, sweet dreams |
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| 22:45.53 | crashanddie | xe2000: how about you try to properly explain what you're after |
| 22:46.21 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, the 'screenshot' is exactly meaningless to me |
| 22:46.31 | lcuk | some phones used ot have a total talk time screen |
| 22:46.31 | crashanddie | and then some |
| 22:46.35 | lcuk | time spent calling out |
| 22:46.39 | lcuk | time spent inbound calls |
| 22:46.50 | lcuk | my o2 ice had it |
| 22:47.00 | lcuk | its an old feature |
| 22:47.17 | lcuk | hes given shitty screenshot but i know the metric hes thinking of i think |
| 22:48.30 | xe2000 | lcuk, yes that it |
| 22:48.37 | DocScrutinizer | lcuk: xe2000: phome -menu -timer ? |
| 22:49.38 | xe2000 | a list of particular calls |
| 22:49.58 | DocScrutinizer | err what? |
| 22:50.09 | lcuk | xe2000, http://www.wirelessinfo.com/images/upload/Image/reviews/images/lg/choclate/screens/call-history-2.jpg |
| 22:50.35 | SpeedEvil | anyone had bt keyb working? |
| 22:51.12 | lcuk | used to be really important when you had 60 minute calltime plans |
| 22:51.38 | Lumpio- | ...I prefer to get a plan where I don't need to worry about minutes or whatnot if I ever need to make a call (which I rarely do) |
| 22:51.42 | odin_ | !seen Venomrush |
| 22:51.47 | DocScrutinizer | lcuk: xe2000: phone ->menu ->timer ?!? |
| 22:51.56 | lcuk | ~seen odin_ |
| 22:51.57 | infobot | odin_ is currently on #maemo (22h 40m 43s) #tomcat (22h 40m 43s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 15s, last said: '!seen Venomrush'. |
| 22:52.01 | odin_ | ~seen Venomrush |
| 22:52.02 | infobot | venomrush <~opera@188-221-102-245.zone12.bethere.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 15d 23h 50m 39s ago, saying: 'to select the other mode'. |
| 22:52.06 | SpeedEvil | I edited /etc/.../main.conf - and removed input from excluded plugons. |
| 22:52.15 | lcuk | DocScrutinizer, i dont use it but prolly lol |
| 22:52.27 | lcuk | ye |
| 22:52.30 | lcuk | :D |
| 22:52.32 | odin_ | who is this Venomrush, and is he doing something considered useful in the community my the majority of the community? https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7919 |
| 22:52.33 | povbot | Bug 7919: Add to Contacts (from POP3/Inbox reading mail) offers to add myself |
| 22:52.45 | xe2000 | DocScrutinizer, not the cout of all calls |
| 22:52.47 | lcuk | must root around his menus more |
| 22:53.00 | DocScrutinizer | xe2000: ??? |
| 22:53.12 | SpeedEvil | It says paired, and pressing a key makes the data light on keyb flash - bu nothing... /dev/input/* does not seem to appear |
| 22:53.14 | xe2000 | http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3883/327883585screen.jpg a call log with a single cont of every call |
| 22:53.47 | lcuk | never knew the timers screen existed :) |
| 22:53.49 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, yes. duration of particular calls missing in call history |
| 22:54.11 | xe2000 | DocScrutinizer, yes |
| 22:54.44 | DocScrutinizer | xe2000: though all your screenshots aren't to the point |
| 22:55.06 | DocScrutinizer | as they miss any call duration of particular calls as well |
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| 22:55.58 | SpeedEvil | Also - bt icon goes blue when I press... |
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| 22:57.01 | xe2000 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/extcalllog/ ist fine, but i can't see: Call DATETIME, DURATION, AMOUNT |
| 22:57.27 | SpeedEvil | ping the maker? |
| 22:57.48 | SpeedEvil | tries the last resort of fools, and reboots. |
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| 22:58.56 | DocScrutinizer | xe2000: heh, I was about to find that one right ATM. you found it :-) |
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| 23:00.45 | xe2000 | :-) |
| 23:01.04 | SpeedEvil | meh. |
| 23:01.26 | SpeedEvil | looks at his keyboard. |
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| 23:02.39 | joker_891 | anyone knows why this goes directly to my formEdit |
| 23:02.39 | joker_891 | appuifw.app.body = listbox = appuifw.Listbox(ls) |
| 23:02.39 | joker_891 | appuifw.app.menu = [(u"Editar",self.formEditar(resultat[listbox.current()]))] |
| 23:02.39 | joker_891 | e32.ao_yield() |
| 23:04.24 | DocScrutinizer | xe2000: possibly the system phonelog doesn't keep this info :-/ |
| 23:05.18 | SpeedEvil | it at least broadcasts dbus events which could be caught in realtime |
| 23:05.45 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 23:05.51 | DocScrutinizer | my idea |
| 23:06.36 | DocScrutinizer | en passant I found dbus-addressbook-bindings :-) |
| 23:06.36 | SpeedEvil | wonders if he can find the energy to work out why bt keyb not working. |
| 23:06.55 | DocScrutinizer | prods SpeedEvil |
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| 23:40.10 | RobbieAB | Hi, I have just got an N900, and am wondering what I need to do to get it working as a PAN access point. I've tried google with no success, has anyone done this or got any pointers? |
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| 23:41.55 | ptl | Shapeshifter: I am just trying your alarmed application. Is there a wiki page with alarmed scripts and events, like there is for fcron? |
| 23:42.22 | ptl | RobbieAB: joikuspot and maemo hotspot. Search them on talk.maemo.org |
| 23:43.19 | RobbieAB | joikuspot is WiFi isn't it? |
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| 23:43.39 | javispedro | yeah, for PAN you're on your own mostly |
| 23:43.51 | RobbieAB | That's sort of what I expected. |
| 23:44.10 | javispedro | try to do it same way you'd do it on a gnu/linux desktop, and if nothing works, complain |
| 23:44.36 | RobbieAB | Unfortunately, gnome/blueman aren't there :D |
| 23:44.40 | MohammadAG | Created a new project, aiming to get an app into at least extras |
| 23:44.45 | MohammadAG | extras-devel* |
| 23:45.00 | RobbieAB | But yeah, I can take that route. Work out what packages I need, and go down that route. :) |
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| 23:45.39 | RobbieAB | One of the joys of having started with Gentoo... Common sense doesn't get in the way. :) |
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| 23:46.40 | MohammadAG | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=48336 :/ |
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| 23:48.34 | ptl | MohammadAG: LOL |
| 23:49.52 | DocScrutinizer | RobbieAB: http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_Unsupported_Bluetooth_profiles#PAN |
| 23:51.33 | ptl | RobbieAB: Sorry, robbie, I didn't know what you were talking about! |
| 23:51.39 | RobbieAB | DocScrutinizer: Thanks, I found that, but it doesn't seem to be enough to get a PAN Access Point working, sadly. I suspect the N900 is missing other pieces of infrastructure. |
| 23:51.55 | DocScrutinizer | ooh |
| 23:52.05 | RobbieAB | ptl: It's ok, that just means I need to learn how to ask better questions. |
| 23:52.59 | RobbieAB | If JoikuSpot works, it may just be that I need to look at what they are using. :D |
| 23:53.10 | RobbieAB | i.e. dhcp servers and the like. |
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| 23:54.24 | RobbieAB | I can get a bnep device on the laptop, but it doesn't seem to be getting an IP address, which is why I suspect dhcp. |
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| 23:55.19 | RobbieAB | Anyway, thank you all, you have been very helpful, and at least I know I'm not missing something obvious. :) |
| 23:56.06 | red | haha MohammadAG :) |
| 23:56.08 | RobbieAB | I will start pursuing this seriously this weekend :) |
| 23:57.34 | ptl | joikuspot does something very intriguing |
| 23:57.41 | ptl | masquerade through userspace |
| 23:57.54 | ptl | I don't have any idea how it does it. |
| 23:58.13 | RobbieAB | Well, ideally, I would want to do the routing in the kernel, as it would be faster. |
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| 23:58.31 | RobbieAB | But it's not critical, getting it working is more important :) |
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| 23:59.37 | ptl | it's just that the stock kernel does not have masquerading compiled in |
| 23:59.50 | ptl | so it can not be enabled by echoing into /proc |
| 23:59.57 | RobbieAB | Oh, yuck. |
| 23:59.59 | ptl | *the stock N900 kernel |
