| 00:00.03 | trem | nite all, sweet dreams |
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| 00:06.06 | njsf | re |
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| 00:15.20 | C-S-B | ouch, anyone good with helping me with the sdk? |
| 00:16.46 | DocScrutinizer | eeeeew |
| 00:18.26 | C-S-B | exactly |
| 00:18.46 | joga | hmm...I guess I could modify /usr/sbin/gainroot to execute bash instead |
| 00:19.05 | joga | I wonder if that's a potential disaster ;) |
| 00:19.43 | C-S-B | that would be nice |
| 00:19.53 | C-S-B | bash is alot better than what we have |
| 00:20.02 | Jaffa | joga: You could just add a bash line to /etc/sudoers |
| 00:20.06 | pupnik | so happy javicq added quicksave slopts to picodrive n900 |
| 00:20.27 | Jaffa | joga: But nothing built-in to the OS uses gainroot, so it should be fine. Some third party scripts do, though. |
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| 00:21.15 | DocScrutinizer | FAIL... omg |
| 00:21.37 | joga | Jaffa: ok |
| 00:21.39 | DocScrutinizer | gainroot is a fail in itself |
| 00:21.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | SpeedEvil, you confused me there, evil highlighter |
| 00:21.55 | C-S-B | sapwood-server[5866]: GLIB WARNING ** Gdk - cannot open display: |
| 00:21.55 | C-S-B | process 5889: arguments to dbus_connection_send_with_reply_and_block() were incorrect, assertion "connection != NULL" failed in file dbus-connection.c line 3298. |
| 00:22.02 | C-S-B | anyone else had this? |
| 00:23.03 | DocScrutinizer | sapwood server? never heard of |
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| 00:23.56 | C-S-B | after running af-sb-init.sh start |
| 00:24.03 | joga | Jaffa: I think I'll just leave gainroot alone and make a copy that calls bash and add that with visudo |
| 00:24.11 | DocScrutinizer | anyway sounds like connection to dbus failed |
| 00:24.38 | C-S-B | yeah, my thoughts but im a bit at a loss on a remedy |
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| 00:25.13 | DocScrutinizer | wrong user? wrong bus (system vs session)? wrong dbus perm config? |
| 00:25.50 | joga | heh I found a /usr/sbin/gainroot.old that has an 'echo "Enable RD mode if you want to break your device"' :) |
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| 00:26.37 | DocScrutinizer | joga: that's the one before rootsh replaced it by the real thing |
| 00:26.49 | joga | k |
| 00:27.13 | joga | hmm...misses symlink from vi -> vim |
| 00:27.21 | joga | (visudo complains) |
| 00:28.15 | joga | oh, that exists, but /bin/vi doesn't |
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| 00:28.54 | DocScrutinizer | bet that's another messybox symlink usually |
| 00:29.38 | joga | well, simply exported VISUAL |
| 00:30.20 | DocScrutinizer | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Dec 17 12:34 /usr/bin/vi -> /etc/alternatives/vi |
| 00:31.33 | DocScrutinizer | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Dec 17 12:34 /etc/alternatives/vi -> /bin/busybox |
| 00:31.38 | joga | DocScrutinizer: apparently root doesn't have visual editor set or it likes to use /bin/vi |
| 00:31.51 | joga | but it works now, I have gainroot-bash that I will alias |
| 00:32.39 | DocScrutinizer | actually vi should be in /bin rather than in /usr/bin |
| 00:33.37 | DocScrutinizer | rationale being you need in /bin all the tools to service a system in init -s |
| 00:33.54 | DocScrutinizer | and in /sbin of course |
| 00:34.29 | joga | yeah |
| 00:34.43 | DocScrutinizer | while /usr should hold all the executables "nice to have" but may be mounted later or not at all in servicemode |
| 00:36.29 | DocScrutinizer | I guess most admins would consider vi an essential tool for servicing a broken system |
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| 00:41.50 | andrei | I'm trying to install the sdk, and the install script dies with: "awk: fatal: could not find groups: Invalid argument" Enyone else encouter this? |
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| 01:49.36 | Andrewfblack | can anyone help me flash my n900 with flasher on windows NSU isn't working for me |
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| 01:57.28 | sar3th | hm dunno an |
| 01:57.31 | sar3th | *Andrewfblack |
| 01:57.35 | sar3th | what's di matter? |
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| 02:05.20 | electronicsjar | does anyone here know how to set up modest so that the email archives are saved on the 2Gb or 8Gb hard drive space rather than internal memory? |
| 02:08.37 | Andrewfblack | anyone know how long after I flash using flash it will take device to reboot |
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| 02:16.42 | ml-mobile | electronicsjar: it does save them on the 2GB |
| 02:17.07 | electronicsjar | ml-mobile, really? it doesn't seem like the case on mine before i reflashed the os |
| 02:17.09 | ml-mobile | or do you mean storing it on an SD card? |
| 02:17.36 | electronicsjar | storing it on the SD would work too |
| 02:17.45 | electronicsjar | i need to find ways of not overloading the internal memory |
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| 02:17.50 | electronicsjar | (the 128 mb space) |
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| 02:17.58 | ml-mobile | 256 |
| 02:18.25 | ml-mobile | and the mail messages are stored under /home/user/.modest |
| 02:18.37 | ml-mobile | which is on the 2GB ext3 partition |
| 02:21.22 | electronicsjar | hmm...what then could cause the 256 mb being overloaded? |
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| 02:27.25 | DocScrutinizer | who's responsible for maemo mailinglists mailman? spamasassin prepends a [possible spam] to empty mails, which makes mailan fail on maemo-*-request@maemo.org |
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| 02:27.59 | ml-mobile | electronicsjar: apps from -devel that aren't optified, some caches |
| 02:28.09 | ml-mobile | how much do you have free? |
| 02:28.33 | DocScrutinizer | s/mails,/mails' subjects,/ |
| 02:31.02 | acidjazz | http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t306/shakesville/oralsexlight.jpg |
| 02:31.05 | acidjazz | so i got a nexus one |
| 02:31.11 | acidjazz | and im playin w/ it in parallel to the n900 |
| 02:31.20 | acidjazz | made me realize how awesome maemo really is |
| 02:33.27 | C-S-B | woot iodine all set up and working on my n900 |
| 02:33.37 | acidjazz | whats iodine |
| 02:33.42 | C-S-B | dns tunneling |
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| 02:38.09 | C-S-B | lowering the mtu i can get fairly good traffic flow |
| 02:38.17 | C-S-B | :) |
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| 02:50.48 | Andrewfblack | trying to use flasher and it is telling me to supply the 2nd image??? |
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| 02:54.35 | ml-mobile | did you tell it to flash both the rootfs and the eMMC? |
| 02:56.20 | electronicsjar | ml-mobile, device memory are 83.2 mb available, internal memory card is 1.75 Gb available, removable memory card is 3.42 Gb available |
| 03:00.24 | Andrewfblack | ok got it now I think added --flash-only=rootfs |
| 03:00.42 | Andrewfblack | waiting at found device how long doesn't flasher take to flash phone? |
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| 03:07.55 | C-S-B | a couple of mins |
| 03:08.10 | C-S-B | what are you flashing the emmc or kernel? |
| 03:11.59 | Andrewfblack | rootfs |
| 03:12.33 | Andrewfblack | does device need to be on or just hold down U and plug in? |
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| 03:15.25 | hd1 | go go gadget eBay! |
| 03:18.15 | DocScrutinizer | couple of seconds |
| 03:18.39 | DocScrutinizer | waiting means something failed |
| 03:19.01 | Andrewfblack | should phone be on or off? |
| 03:19.08 | DocScrutinizer | unplug N900, switch off, replug |
| 03:19.41 | DocScrutinizer | should switch on automatically on plugin |
| 03:21.10 | Andrewfblack | I started over phone is off plug in and I got device not found |
| 03:21.37 | Andrewfblack | phone is viberation some and screen is flashing |
| 03:22.02 | DocScrutinizer | flasher has to be waiting on plugin |
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| 03:22.37 | Andrewfblack | hold anything down or just plug in |
| 03:22.59 | DocScrutinizer | you could hold down "u", but it's probably not needed |
| 03:24.40 | Andrewfblack | got phone off with Dark screen Nokia and USB flasher icon thingy |
| 03:24.50 | Andrewfblack | flasher still waiting on device |
| 03:25.23 | DocScrutinizer | strange. |
| 03:25.51 | DocScrutinizer | if you got the usb icon, you could try to kill and restart flasher |
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| 03:26.21 | Andrewfblack | could it be I"m using USA image just thought about that I have a prerelease n900 Quim sent me from Finland |
| 03:26.37 | DocScrutinizer | shouldn't matter |
| 03:27.26 | Andrewfblack | still getting device not found |
| 03:27.47 | DocScrutinizer | try another usb connector on PC |
| 03:28.37 | Andrewfblack | been having trouble nokia software updater wont work either says connecton to device lost |
| 03:29.00 | DocScrutinizer | hmm yes |
| 03:29.23 | DocScrutinizer | bad cable, or 'bad' usb connector (with internal hub) |
| 03:30.05 | Andrewfblack | same thing on 2 computers |
| 03:30.14 | Andrewfblack | bad usb connector on device? |
| 03:30.38 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, maybe you broke your N900 usb receptacle? |
| 03:31.41 | DocScrutinizer | hard to diagnose from remote |
| 03:32.09 | Andrewfblack | works fine for transfering files |
| 03:32.17 | DocScrutinizer | you're using linux on PC? |
| 03:32.29 | Andrewfblack | pc |
| 03:33.31 | Andrewfblack | charges fine also |
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| 03:35.54 | Andrewfblack | n900 booted isn't seeing cable plug in now was 10 minutes ago |
| 03:36.54 | electronicsjar | is the /home/user/.modest directory on the 128 mb or the internal/external memory cards? |
| 03:37.08 | electronicsjar | i thought the /home/user/ directory is on the 128 mb memory |
| 03:37.14 | ml-mobile | it isn't |
| 03:37.26 | microlith | the 2GB partition is mounted on /home |
| 03:38.08 | microlith | there is a softlink to /home/opt |
| 03:38.18 | DocScrutinizer | /home is on the 2GB ext3 partition of eMMC |
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| 03:38.33 | DocScrutinizer | see 'mount' |
| 03:41.21 | DocScrutinizer | Andrewfblack: there's no 10 minutes wait in flashing. Everything happens instantly |
| 03:41.42 | DocScrutinizer | no wait at any point |
| 03:42.00 | DocScrutinizer | if you wait, it failed |
| 03:42.23 | Andrewfblack | so go by a new cable and try I guess |
| 03:42.31 | Andrewfblack | if that isn't it then bad device |
| 03:42.50 | DocScrutinizer | still dunno what's your OS |
| 03:42.57 | Andrewfblack | Windows XP |
| 03:43.04 | DocScrutinizer | hmm |
| 03:43.15 | electronicsjar | hmm |
| 03:43.27 | Andrewfblack | windows 7 on other computer failed also havn't tried it under linux yet |
| 03:43.36 | electronicsjar | then what's happening with the out of memory message on my n810 then |
| 03:43.37 | electronicsjar | ? |
| 03:44.35 | DocScrutinizer | you're running flasher with admin permisions? |
| 03:45.19 | DocScrutinizer | (not as if I had any idea of redmond crap. just wild guessing) |
| 03:46.51 | Andrewfblack | yeah |
| 03:50.43 | ml-mobile | electronicsjar: wait, you're on an N810? |
| 03:50.48 | electronicsjar | ml-mobile, yes |
| 03:50.52 | ml-mobile | ohhhh |
| 03:50.54 | electronicsjar | does it change what you said? |
| 03:50.58 | ml-mobile | yes |
| 03:51.31 | electronicsjar | ml-mobile, what does it entail then? |
| 03:52.02 | ml-mobile | only thing I can think of is softlinking .modest to a directory on an SD card |
| 03:52.23 | electronicsjar | ml-mobile, i'm not sure how to softlink .modest to a directory on an SD card |
| 03:52.28 | ml-mobile | however I do not know how th N810 would react on bootup |
| 03:52.35 | electronicsjar | i guess i can try looking online before asking for more informaiton |
| 03:53.08 | ml-mobile | you may want to ask in the Maemo 4 forum on maemo.org |
| 03:53.26 | ml-mobile | the issue has likely been encountered before |
| 04:00.23 | ml-mobile | browserd has some serious cpu usage issues :/ |
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| 04:06.51 | Andrewfblack2 | DocScrutinizer51: I got with flasher on windows 7 pc |
| 04:07.17 | DocScrutinizer | what fixed it? |
| 04:07.50 | Andrewfblack2 | really have no idea I hadn't tried flasher on windows 7 but nsu didn't work on either and flasher wouldn't work on windows xp |
| 04:08.08 | C-S-B | anyone tried sygic? |
| 04:08.50 | Andrewfblack2 | linux was about to be my next try but your right only takes about 5 total seconds to do it |
| 04:09.17 | C-S-B | linux should be your only try ;) |
| 04:09.27 | C-S-B | step away from the win. |
| 04:10.07 | Andrewfblack2 | I have several times but I get so used to windows at work it just feels easier to do it at home |
| 04:10.54 | C-S-B | i use linux at home but often end up supporting it at work |
| 04:11.06 | C-S-B | its refreshing coming home to it |
| 04:11.26 | C-S-B | i cant think of anything that is easier or better in windows |
| 04:11.37 | Andrewfblack2 | in fact work is about to make me go buy a windows mobile phone as well |
| 04:11.47 | C-S-B | Im so sorry |
| 04:12.18 | Andrewfblack2 | our work network will only allow windows mobile phones connect and I'm tired of logging into desktop to get an email |
| 04:12.41 | Andrewfblack2 | I've been trying for months to find a way to get n900 to connect |
| 04:12.44 | C-S-B | mail for exchange not working for you on n900 |
| 04:13.07 | C-S-B | plus im sure theres an exchange plugin for evolution on a desktop |
| 04:13.50 | C-S-B | theres imap and pop as other solutions... |
| 04:13.56 | Andrewfblack2 | mail for exchange works I just can't get my phone on network and no cell service |
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| 04:14.28 | DocScrutinizer | weird |
| 04:14.37 | C-S-B | try and spoof your mac to a win mobile mac? |
| 04:15.01 | C-S-B | how are they os checking on the network? |
| 04:15.57 | DocScrutinizer | that's the question. Which exotic crap technology is involved in winmoob registering on the network? |
| 04:16.08 | Andrewfblack2 | problem is how you have to setup network settings and I have to set it for network to give me WEP Key and enroll the root cert |
| 04:16.34 | C-S-B | wep? |
| 04:16.46 | Andrewfblack2 | n900 has no setting for network giving WEP key |
| 04:16.49 | Andrewfblack2 | C-S-B: yep |
| 04:17.14 | C-S-B | you can connect to wep network, if your really wanted to, on the n900 |
| 04:17.54 | Andrewfblack2 | I can't get it to connect always asks for WEP key which I don't have |
| 04:18.00 | C-S-B | but what kind of mindless security choice was wep? |
| 04:18.21 | C-S-B | you could get the key without ever connecting to the network if its wep. |
| 04:18.24 | DocScrutinizer | legacy I guess |
| 04:18.45 | C-S-B | i hope that the network isolates wep clients |
| 04:18.46 | Andrewfblack2 | they don't care about security just tracking what you do |
| 04:19.20 | Andrewfblack2 | If you don't work out there you can't get close enough to network to connect |
| 04:19.37 | DocScrutinizer | I don't get it how winmoob is fetching a key for the network over the network o.O |
| 04:19.42 | Andrewfblack2 | we are surrounded by about a 3 miles of fence |
| 04:19.53 | C-S-B | DocScrutinizer same here |
| 04:20.50 | Andrewfblack2 | Windows has a setting for allow network to give key. I think they are really comfirming you with the Root Cert that you have to enroll by running some enroll.exe that requires you to enter your network login information |
| 04:20.52 | C-S-B | just obtaining sygic anyone else a |
| 04:21.06 | C-S-B | tried it |
| 04:22.04 | Andrewfblack2 | I wont be buying I got screwed on n810 Navigation I can't believe they didn't release wayfinder for n900 |
| 04:23.48 | C-S-B | I'm lovin my fully working n900 |
| 04:23.59 | C-S-B | 3rd one seems to be doing well |
| 04:24.19 | C-S-B | not found a missing feature yet |
| 04:26.23 | DocScrutinizer | crossing fingers |
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| 04:28.05 | Andrewfblack2 | thinking of getting a SmartQ v5 I would assume that booting the windows ce would be able to connect to work network |
| 04:30.10 | DocScrutinizer | I'd not place my bet on that |
| 04:30.48 | Andrewfblack2 | might just get a used winmo phone from ebay since it will just a work phone i looked for a PDA that runs winmo but cna't find them anymore |
| 04:31.26 | C-S-B | htc hd2 looks nice if you want a lighter wallet |
| 04:31.53 | Andrewfblack2 | btw if anyone of you are as lazy of me I figure out how to do click to unlock on n900 lockscreen lol |
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| 04:33.43 | Andrewfblack2 | 650 for a work toy is a little much lol |
| 04:35.53 | ptl | I paid US$ 580 |
| 04:36.02 | ptl | and there's people selling it for much less now |
| 04:36.46 | DocScrutinizer | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms836771.aspx *puke* |
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| 04:38.13 | Andrewfblack2 | DocScrutinizer: yeah that enroll.exe thing is what keeps me from connecting n900 to work network |
| 04:39.40 | DocScrutinizer | wonders if ssh and relatives could handle PKCS#10 and*.cer as well |
| 04:40.07 | DocScrutinizer | fwiw |
| 04:40.36 | DocScrutinizer | anyway that's not the wep key aiui |
| 04:40.41 | C-S-B | docscrutinizer this is something Ive wondered about all my n900s |
| 04:41.06 | C-S-B | does the power management drop the wifi in a haphazard way if you dont use it in a while? |
| 04:44.05 | Andrewfblack2 | I find it hard to believe its impossible to connect n900 to my work network just havn't found a way yet lol |
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| 04:47.24 | DocScrutinizer | well, aiui you can connect to the *network* quite easily, and in the classic way by providing a wep key that *has* to be preshared. The question is what you're allowed to do on the network then, other than sending an enrollment request to the cert server of windows |
| 04:47.26 | C-S-B | try harder |
| 04:48.07 | C-S-B | you could be a little naughty, obtain the wep key and connect |
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| 04:51.18 | Andrewfblack2 | C-S-B: not work losing job lol |
| 04:51.32 | C-S-B | deny all |
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| 04:55.46 | DocScrutinizer | I'd pester company's admin to get the shit working on linux |
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| 05:02.49 | ptl | admin or programmers? |
| 05:03.35 | njsf_ | re |
| 05:05.07 | Andrewfblack2 | DocScrutinizer: problem is I work with 5000 people at my work location with about 100 it people, Company wide their are 10s of thousands of people who knows how many it people and we all have same network setup |
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| 05:14.29 | DocScrutinizer | Andrewfblack: you're missing my point. It should probably work with very same "network setup" on linux as well. Company hadn't have to change any of their infrastructure for you, it just needs one of the 100 IT guys to understand how to configure linux (probably ssh plus another few supplementary services) and get it done on your N900 |
| 05:15.42 | njsf_ | DocScrutinizer what network setup are we talking about? I just missed it... Is it cisco vpn over wifi, ActiveSync ? |
| 05:15.55 | DocScrutinizer | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms836771.aspx |
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| 05:18.32 | njsf_ | Oh ic, Is this for VPN PPTP auth or for Exchange sync? |
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| 05:19.26 | DocScrutinizer | VPN sounds like matching the case |
| 05:20.32 | njsf_ | yeah, my employer fortunately chose a cisco vpn solution, so vpnc is a solution |
| 05:20.33 | DocScrutinizer | as Andrewfblack says he "can't connect to network" |
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| 05:21.06 | njsf_ | even if I had to manually edit the config, since the vpnc-gui would not allow to edit some of the fields they validate (like the client version...) |
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| 05:22.35 | DocScrutinizer | anyway, I mean this wince crap is from 2002 or somesuch. Hard to believe no hacker implemented that shit on linux yet |
| 05:24.03 | njsf_ | lemme see the pptp solutions if they support the pcks |
| 05:28.25 | njsf_ | Ok, it seems this is related to l2tp, not pptp... |
| 05:28.59 | njsf_ | which is similar to the way the cisco vpn works, but it seems that with windows it just uses ipsec... |
| 05:29.15 | njsf_ | Andrewfblack: could this be of use to you? http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/networking/linux-l2tp.html |
| 05:30.47 | njsf_ | Unfortunately it is not very clear on how to do the initial certificate exchange, which it seemed to be the question? |
| 05:30.48 | Stskeeps | Andrewfblack: there's a flasher-3.5 binary for windows that's not nsu |
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| 05:35.50 | DocScrutinizer | ""Smart cards provide the flexibility of enrollment from any client device that supports smart cards, such as a desktop PC"" |
| 05:36.23 | Stskeeps | yawns |
| 05:36.58 | njsf_ | DocScrutinizer51: ?! |
| 05:38.05 | DocScrutinizer | any device includes Linux. If this enrollment is just smartcard standard, then there should be a sw based solution for linux as well |
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| 05:42.22 | njsf_ | I think the smartcard bit is just an alternate way to get the certificate other than that http exchange |
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| 05:45.22 | RST38h | "I am Shung Hin Hui, I have a business of $15.5 million for you contact me for details." |
| 05:45.30 | RST38h | Funny. |
| 05:46.21 | DocScrutinizer | nigeria connection reloaded |
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| 05:49.07 | cehteh | hehe .. so far nothing toped the breast enhancement cream spam i once got .. wtf do they know that i dont need a bigger penis but my titties are small? :P |
| 05:49.41 | RST38h | Haven't you complained about it on tmo? =) |
| 05:50.00 | cehteh | no |
| 05:51.37 | Stskeeps | twitches at texrat's suggestion at putting pandora under linux foundation/meego |
| 05:51.52 | Stskeeps | talk about a PR scandal that could be.. |
| 05:51.53 | RST38h | eek |
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| 06:08.52 | RurouniJones | 3 days to register a project on the maemo garage?! Ouch |
| 06:09.12 | Stskeeps | ah, x-fade is on a long weekend |
| 06:09.17 | Stskeeps | should probably approve today |
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| 06:09.43 | RST38h | Stskeeps: And there is still nobody who can do it in his absence? |
| 06:09.53 | Stskeeps | RST38h: i think there is but i have nothing to deal with infra |
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| 06:11.02 | RurouniJones | One person does all the approval? Ok |
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| 06:11.27 | RurouniJones | I just want to check. This is the only way to get packages into extras-devel right? |
| 06:12.09 | Stskeeps | no |
| 06:12.19 | Stskeeps | that's the extras uploader queue |
| 06:12.23 | Stskeeps | projects has nothing to deal with that |
| 06:12.39 | RST38h | Ruroni: You do not need a garage project to submit stuff to the extras-devel |
| 06:13.44 | RurouniJones | Ah, you only need a garage account, not a project? |
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| 06:15.26 | Stskeeps | right, and requesting access to upload |
| 06:15.28 | Stskeeps | morning tekojo |
| 06:15.36 | tekojo | Morning Stskeeps |
| 06:15.45 | RurouniJones | Righto, thanks muchly. |
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| 07:01.36 | ShadowJK | [ 15.665374] EXT3-fs warning: mounting fs with errors, running e2fsck is recommended |
| 07:01.54 | ShadowJK | ponders sanest way to fsck /home... |
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| 07:02.41 | Appiah | how about fsck at reboot? |
| 07:03.00 | Appiah | touch /forcefsck |
| 07:05.23 | ShadowJK | that works? |
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| 07:06.44 | ShadowJK | grep -r forcefsck /etc |
| 07:06.48 | ShadowJK | yields nothing |
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| 07:09.01 | ShadowJK | nothing with just fsck either |
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| 07:16.29 | Appiah | ShadowJK: ? |
| 07:17.03 | Appiah | thats how I've done it on all linux installs |
| 07:17.18 | Appiah | (servers and desktops) |
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| 07:18.35 | ShadowJK | my ubuntu install has a /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh which contains if [ -f /forcefsck ] |
| 07:18.43 | ShadowJK | so it'd work there |
| 07:18.48 | Appiah | hmm |
| 07:18.55 | ShadowJK | but I don't run Ubuntu on my N900 |
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| 07:21.24 | Appiah | "You can prevent your phone of mounting /home at boot time by commenting the "/bin/mount /home" rule in /etc/event.d/rcS-late" |
| 07:21.28 | Appiah | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=43698 |
| 07:21.31 | Appiah | thats one way... |
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| 07:46.52 | furunk3l | yes hello |
| 07:47.18 | ccooke | morning, all |
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| 07:50.58 | bib38 | Hello sygic free n900 possible ? :) |
| 07:51.15 | ShadowJK | no |
| 07:51.58 | bib38 | Yes but i don t know where i can found this |
| 07:52.15 | bib38 | It s possible , i m sure |
| 07:52.25 | ShadowJK | go away |
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| 07:52.46 | Jaffa | Morning all |
| 07:52.50 | ShadowJK | or use ovi maps |
| 07:52.56 | ccooke | bib38: it may be, but that doesn't mean we'll want to help you pirate it |
| 07:53.18 | FIQ | °°«»©â¢âââ¥â¤Ã§Ã¢¡¿§*°·±½«»}{]|[><¤%#"+-=!&@\/)(_;:'.,?â¬Â£$Â¥ |
| 07:53.21 | bib38 | Ok i prefre this answer |
| 07:53.21 | Jaffa | TTOTD: automated publishing scripts need failsafes to event re-publishing last week's issue. |
| 07:53.25 | FIQ | uhm |
| 07:53.28 | FIQ | ups |
| 07:53.59 | bib38 | But ovi maps is not ready with voice on n900 |
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| 07:55.12 | bib38 | Have you gote a date for ovi maps for n900 ? |
| 07:55.23 | RurouniJones | Is there a vaguely accurate due date for the next release of maemo that has Qt 4.6 built-in? |
| 07:56.14 | ShadowJK | RurouniJones, dates aren't released by nokia in advance. There are only rumours. |
| 07:56.35 | RurouniJones | Ok, any vageuly believeable rumours / estimates |
| 07:56.45 | FIQ | yay, 100% used on debian chroot image |
| 07:56.55 | FIQ | thinks the image is too small |
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| 07:57.19 | ShadowJK | RurouniJones, it was "really soon now" a month ago :P |
| 07:57.24 | RurouniJones | Oh boy |
| 07:57.38 | FIQ | - 2.0G 2.0G 0 100% / |
| 07:57.56 | RurouniJones | goes and tries his app on his current N900 to see how spectacularly it explodes |
| 07:57.56 | ShadowJK | but then, rumour has it, things failed QA |
| 07:58.20 | ccooke | FIQ: I bet you're glad the image isn't on a jffs2 partition, then :-) |
| 07:58.54 | ShadowJK | RurouniJones, so I think qt-4.6 is in extras-devel |
| 07:58.54 | FIQ | jffs2 partition... |
| 07:59.16 | RurouniJones | ShadowJK: Yer it is, but I am not sure I want to wipe out the existing Qt on my N900 |
| 07:59.34 | RurouniJones | I did in the scratchbox environment to test the app, but I won't want to wreck my phone ;) |
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| 07:59.53 | ShadowJK | I suspect it installs in parallell but I'm not sure :) |
| 07:59.55 | RurouniJones | since I have no idea how any other qt apps will react |
| 08:00.10 | RurouniJones | I am not sure beause the guide said to remove the existing Qt libs |
| 08:00.16 | FIQ | yay for apt-get clean |
| 08:00.20 | ShadowJK | oh, scary |
| 08:00.30 | ShadowJK | yeah 8Md be afraid too then :P |
| 08:00.53 | ShadowJK | s/8Ms/I'd/ |
| 08:01.00 | ShadowJK | oh I give up |
| 08:01.19 | ShadowJK | switching between N810 and N900 keyboard gives interesting typos... |
| 08:01.26 | ccooke | ShadowJK: I wonder how many of us are here on n900s... |
| 08:01.51 | FIQ | is here on a N900 |
| 08:01.58 | MiXu- | I'm just gonna wait for PR1.2 and not install Qt4.6 by myself. Even though I'm developing a qt app that requires 4.6. |
| 08:02.01 | ccooke | also |
| 08:02.07 | RurouniJones | ditto, but not as a phone because sodding networks won't allow it |
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| 08:02.29 | ShadowJK | I've got my desktop, my N810 and my N810 connected to this nickname right now :P |
| 08:02.33 | RurouniJones | MiXu-: Same, but it is annoying because this program is really useful for me (Hell, I developed it for myself) |
| 08:02.45 | RurouniJones | and having to wait is annoying *) |
| 08:02.47 | MiXu- | RurouniJones: Yep. Same here. :) |
| 08:02.48 | ccooke | has anyone else thought about proxying im transports, btw? |
| 08:03.36 | ccooke | I am considering the benefits of plugging all of my non-voip transports into an instance of minbif |
| 08:04.14 | ccooke | (minbif is an im to irc gateway bult on libpurple) |
| 08:04.45 | ccooke | and since it runs on a server on my vpn, I should be able to cut processing and bandwidth use on the phone massively |
| 08:05.11 | ShadowJK | hm |
| 08:05.44 | RurouniJones | MiXu-: You using QT-Creator to make your interfaces? |
| 08:06.08 | MiXu- | RurouniJones: Yes. Except some maemo specific stuff. |
| 08:06.23 | MiXu- | And at this point the UI is a bit of a mess because of that. |
| 08:06.43 | MiXu- | Looks fine on Maemo, but horrible in the code :) |
| 08:06.53 | RurouniJones | Hehe, I am finding it a real pain in the arse to get things positioned nicely using the ui designer and the various layouts |
| 08:08.06 | MiXu- | The designer takes a while to get used to, that's all. |
| 08:08.52 | RurouniJones | Well plus the fact I am new to Qt and haven't done c++ for a hell of a long time. |
| 08:09.29 | RurouniJones | In fact I was going to ask if someone coul dhave a look at hte code and let me know if it is ok / breaking more conventions than I care to know about. Is there a big QT site where people might be up for that? |
| 08:10.02 | MiXu- | I'm on #qt and #qt-maemo |
| 08:10.42 | RurouniJones | I was thinking website. Probably get more response on a forum or something. |
| 08:11.30 | mikhas | maybe http://www.qtcentre.org/ then, not sure how active it really is, though |
| 08:11.53 | RurouniJones | Gracias |
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| 08:12.27 | MiXu- | Looks active |
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| 08:28.58 | ShadowJK | tries fsck from bootmenu.sh |
| 08:29.10 | ShadowJK | hope i dont brick my n900 :D |
| 08:29.31 | Appiah | that should be a wikipage |
| 08:29.36 | Appiah | "How to brick your n900" |
| 08:30.19 | Lumpio- | Always think of the bright side |
| 08:30.27 | Lumpio- | An N900 makes for a classy paperweight |
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| 08:32.22 | ShadowJK | well, first attempt failed to fsck |
| 08:32.36 | RurouniJones | The crowd winces |
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| 08:36.00 | ShadowJK | I think /dev/mmcblk* is either missing or not yet fubar'd that early in boot.... |
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| 08:41.02 | ShadowJK | yep, no mmc in /dev that early |
| 08:41.39 | bib38 | Bonjour ya t il un chant serveur maemo ou n 900 en francais ? |
| 08:41.54 | timeless_mbp | non |
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| 08:43.48 | bib38 | Merci timeless , tu es en france ? |
| 08:44.15 | timeless_mbp | English. |
| 08:45.29 | bib38 | Ok thank you timeless |
| 08:45.38 | timeless_mbp | thanks for conforming :) |
| 08:45.47 | tybollt | Et francais? |
| 08:46.02 | bib38 | Moi oui |
| 08:46.26 | tybollt | c'est la vie |
| 08:46.33 | bib38 | Je cherche un chant sur le n900 en français , mais ya pas |
| 08:46.52 | Corsac | bib38: please create one and don't bother non-french speakers |
| 08:47.02 | timeless_mbp | ++ |
| 08:47.06 | MiXu- | yep |
| 08:47.15 | bib38 | Ok corsac |
| 08:47.23 | Corsac | (well, please don't bother french speakers either) |
| 08:47.29 | MiXu- | :D |
| 08:47.29 | tybollt | :D |
| 08:47.43 | ShadowJK | timeless_mbp: ever tried to use realtime google translate on n900? :) |
| 08:47.52 | timeless_mbp | no |
| 08:47.55 | timeless_mbp | wait |
| 08:48.01 | bib38 | What a the best ap n900 for you ? |
| 08:48.04 | timeless_mbp | for productive use or to test the browser? |
| 08:48.10 | timeless_mbp | for the latter? sure |
| 08:48.48 | ShadowJK | to test yeah |
| 08:49.10 | bib38 | I realy like phototranslate :) |
| 08:49.11 | ShadowJK | it's dropping keys for me |
| 08:49.45 | timeless_mbp | translate is in my google bookmarks folder :) |
| 08:50.13 | timeless_mbp | (although, it is last, which shows how often it's used) |
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| 08:50.58 | ShadowJK | oops nevermind, my conf mods caused it :D |
| 08:51.21 | ShadowJK | no wait.. |
| 08:51.26 | timeless_mbp | aww, you made me reboot my n900 |
| 08:51.41 | cehteh | mhm .. new openvpn |
| 08:51.47 | ShadowJK | why did you have to reboot... |
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| 08:51.57 | cehteh | i wonder if it will overwrite all my handcrafted configs |
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| 08:52.10 | cehteh | (scripts) |
| 08:52.15 | timeless_mbp | something got stuck, and i'm too tired to do anything else to it |
| 08:52.49 | cehteh | 2 n900 would be ideal .. one for using, one for playing and bricking |
| 08:53.00 | timeless_mbp | cehteh: i'm quite happy w/ 2 |
| 08:53.04 | cehteh | hehe |
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| 08:53.06 | ShadowJK | Anyway, when it translates as you type, I randomly lose keypresses. the keys get lost just before the translation results are updated |
| 08:53.07 | timeless_mbp | i used to have red and green |
| 08:53.13 | cehteh | i dont have money for 2 |
| 08:53.16 | timeless_mbp | but red died, so now i have green and pink |
| 08:53.40 | cehteh | i have black and invisible :) |
| 08:53.53 | timeless_mbp | ShadowJK: from memory this is known |
| 08:54.20 | timeless_mbp | the most basic problem is that the realtime system is hazardous to events |
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| 08:55.15 | timeless_mbp | in about 5-10 words, i tend to lose one character |
| 08:55.26 | timeless_mbp | but as the line length gets longer, the losses mount |
| 08:55.56 | ShadowJK | Yeah I lost one with 5 words after I changed jit back to default off |
| 08:56.26 | timeless_mbp | i think i decided it wasn't worth chasing |
| 08:56.38 | timeless_mbp | the system itself can't really handle fast typists anyway |
| 08:56.50 | timeless_mbp | let alone fast typists using the browser for realtime translation |
| 08:57.31 | timeless_mbp | sadly, "hello world. my name is josh" became "hello world. my name s josh" |
| 08:57.48 | timeless_mbp | an the lack of a verb seriously hurt my translation |
| 08:59.15 | Corsac | maybe you translate to redneck? |
| 08:59.57 | timeless_mbp | s/an/and/ |
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| 09:00.52 | ShadowJK | tries it on N810 |
| 09:00.56 | Corsac | pvanhoof: hey, I wanted to ask you how exactly the thumbnailers (google image / album art) are supposed to work? |
| 09:01.10 | Corsac | pvanhoof: I managed to do it with mussorgsky, but it still puzzles me |
| 09:01.30 | Corsac | pvanhoof: afaict there's a dbus service registered, but I don't know who's responsible for calling it |
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| 09:01.54 | ShadowJK | I don't lose keys with microb on N810 :) |
| 09:01.57 | pvanhoof | Corsac, on the n900 or on harmattan? |
| 09:02.06 | ShadowJK | (and it does the realtime stuff) |
| 09:02.31 | Corsac | pvanhoof: n900 |
| 09:02.52 | pvanhoof | What did you manage to do with mussorgsky? |
| 09:03.11 | Corsac | pvanhoof: to get all art for my albums |
| 09:03.42 | pvanhoof | Corsac, so you made a albumart provider tha uses mussorgsky based on the googlealbumartprovider that I made? |
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| 09:04.10 | Corsac | pvanhoof: no, I just used mussorgsky as an end-user and it managed to do it properly |
| 09:04.26 | Corsac | I don't think it uses your googlealbumart provider |
| 09:04.28 | Corsac | but maybe |
| 09:04.31 | Corsac | I didn't think of that |
| 09:04.38 | pvanhoof | I don't understand what exactly you did |
| 09:04.52 | pvanhoof | You downloaded images from a website? |
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| 09:05.04 | Corsac | pvanhoof: mussorgsky did |
| 09:05.19 | pvanhoof | A website wont do anything automatically, is mussorgsky a website? |
| 09:05.32 | Corsac | mussorgsky is an application for n900, sorry |
| 09:05.44 | Corsac | basically it's a metadata/albumart manager |
| 09:05.52 | pvanhoof | ok, I don't know about mussorgsky |
| 09:05.55 | Corsac | it presents you your music database and you can do stuff on it |
| 09:06.01 | pvanhoof | You should ask the author of that software |
| 09:06.04 | Corsac | and there's a part where you can download album art |
| 09:06.12 | Corsac | yeah but that's not the point |
| 09:06.33 | Corsac | what I was asking was: how am I supposed to use googlealbumart provider |
| 09:06.37 | pvanhoof | I really can't answer you anything about what mussorgsky did I'm afraid |
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| 09:06.56 | Corsac | yeah, well, forget about mussorgsky |
| 09:06.58 | pvanhoof | Over its dbus api |
| 09:06.58 | Khertan | Hello ! |
| 09:07.09 | Corsac | pvanhoof: I mean, as an end user |
| 09:07.25 | pvanhoof | Corsac, it's not for end-users, it's an API for app developers |
| 09:07.29 | Corsac | ok, thanks |
| 09:07.35 | Corsac | that's what I was missing :) |
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| 09:07.45 | Corsac | (description is not very clear about that) |
| 09:07.53 | pvanhoof | ok |
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| 09:08.09 | Corsac | sorry for bothering |
| 09:08.14 | ShadowJK | it's in user/ but not for endäusers? |
| 09:08.15 | pvanhoof | np |
| 09:08.20 | ShadowJK | end-users* |
| 09:08.35 | pvanhoof | I don't know who ended up packaging it |
| 09:09.01 | pvanhoof | or don't remember |
| 09:09.51 | Corsac | http://maemo.org/packages/view/google-album-art-downloader/ you're marked as maintainer :/ |
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| 09:09.54 | ShadowJK | is it in extras too.. |
| 09:10.13 | pvanhoof | im not maintaining it, so if somebody wants to pick it up ... |
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| 09:12.09 | ShadowJK | ah good, it's only in devel? |
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| 09:12.36 | pvanhoof | it's a plugin for fremantle's standard api for album art handling |
| 09:13.13 | pvanhoof | fremantle's standard album art handling doesn't support any music stores or album art sources other than embedded albumart, by installing this you make it support google-images as source for album-art for songs that have no embedded album-art |
| 09:13.23 | pvanhoof | i dunno what you want to call that |
| 09:13.45 | timeless_mbp | ShadowJK: hrm |
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| 09:14.11 | timeless_mbp | i think we've made more things async |
| 09:14.14 | timeless_mbp | which is sorta necessary |
| 09:14.20 | timeless_mbp | dunno |
| 09:14.25 | timeless_mbp | it really isn't worth chasing |
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| 09:15.13 | Stskeeps | lo X-Fade, had a good weekend? |
| 09:15.41 | ShadowJK | not worth chasing in the sense that the fix will be called fennec? |
| 09:15.42 | X-Fade | Hi Stskeeps, yes coffee is needed. :) |
| 09:15.55 | tybollt | hmm |
| 09:16.29 | tybollt | that's why the low profile timeless? It's all going to be fennec hence forth? |
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| 09:17.01 | timeless_mbp | microb's work is generally prototyping forks off of gecko |
| 09:17.15 | timeless_mbp | if you want something with less hacky implementations, i'd encourage you to try fennec |
| 09:17.19 | tybollt | is microb alive still - I mean in trunk :) |
| 09:17.35 | tybollt | no |
| 09:17.43 | timeless_mbp | it's like Schrödinger's cat |
| 09:17.50 | tybollt | I don't care about mess of hacks.. I care about support longevity... |
| 09:18.08 | timeless_mbp | microb could last 1 year or 5 years |
| 09:18.12 | timeless_mbp | and i wouldn't know which |
| 09:18.17 | Stskeeps | support can be cut over a cup of coffee |
| 09:18.17 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 09:18.27 | timeless_mbp | but if you want to help out for the future, fennec is the place to be |
| 09:18.36 | tybollt | Stskeeps: s/can/can't/? |
| 09:18.42 | Stskeeps | can |
| 09:18.49 | timeless_mbp | no, Stskeeps did not misspeak |
| 09:18.53 | Stskeeps | as in, can happen anytime |
| 09:18.59 | tybollt | ah yeah |
| 09:19.00 | tybollt | olrite |
| 09:19.14 | timeless_mbp | there is still work being done |
| 09:19.19 | timeless_mbp | improvements will turn up in 1.2 |
| 09:19.27 | timeless_mbp | and i suspect some improvements will happen after that |
| 09:20.07 | timeless_mbp | but i wouldn't expect huge new features in this microb |
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| 09:20.15 | timeless_mbp | the first microb was 'ooh, a gecko' |
| 09:20.16 | tybollt | I guess my question really is - and you will chastize me for bringing this up - will the Intel half of things still see fit in touting microb as the built in browser? |
| 09:20.24 | timeless_mbp | the second microb was, 'ooh, an asynchronous gecko' |
| 09:20.38 | sobczyk | hi is it possible to sync evolution or the kde organizer with n900/maemo5? |
| 09:20.44 | timeless_mbp | the third microb was, 'ooh, an asynchronous gecko that can draw reasonably quickly' |
| 09:20.59 | timeless_mbp | tybollt: i'd assume not |
| 09:21.13 | timeless_mbp | intel afaiu uses a fairly standard gecko |
| 09:21.31 | timeless_mbp | albeit, fairly out of date |
| 09:21.48 | timeless_mbp | something like ff3.0.5 ? |
| 09:22.18 | timeless_mbp | sobczyk: define possible |
| 09:22.22 | timeless_mbp | 'anything is possible' |
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| 09:22.38 | timeless_mbp | http://wiki.maemo.org/Sync#HTTP_support_.28using_syncevolution.29 |
| 09:22.46 | sobczyk | sync contacts and calendar without hassle |
| 09:23.31 | timeless_mbp | wonders how one defines hassle |
| 09:24.20 | MiXu- | There's a gui syncevolution client that does the same thing |
| 09:24.32 | MiXu- | That's no hassle. If you need terminal, it's a hassle. :) |
| 09:25.19 | Corsac | syncevolution 1.0 does direct device sync using bluetooth |
| 09:25.39 | Corsac | no need to install syncevo on the n900, just on the host |
| 09:26.10 | MiXu- | I prefer sync over the internet |
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| 09:27.34 | ShadowJK | would have expected either no browser in meego, or "regular" firefox for netbook ux and fennec for mobile ux |
| 09:28.16 | sobczyk | no hassle = sync with bluetooth wothout any need for internet accounts |
| 09:28.20 | SpeedEvil | lynx! |
| 09:28.23 | sobczyk | or wifi |
| 09:28.59 | ShadowJK | my n900 synced fine and without hassle over bluetooth to my e75 |
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| 09:38.50 | Noobmonk3y | waves.... |
| 09:39.18 | Noobmonk3y | hmmmm cafe nero wireless v 3.5g..... 3.5g it is :) |
| 09:39.26 | sobczyk | I tried to use google sync bt it fails... |
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| 09:39.55 | ShadowJK | uh oh |
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| 09:40.08 | ShadowJK | is closer to reflash now |
| 09:40.16 | Noobmonk3y | eeeek |
| 09:40.35 | ShadowJK | ponders |
| 09:41.00 | ShadowJK | how long should fsck of 2gigs take, and is 256M ram enough :D |
| 09:41.15 | Noobmonk3y | lol |
| 09:41.33 | Noobmonk3y | never tried, not sure, should be.... |
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| 09:41.53 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: depends on FS |
| 09:41.58 | ShadowJK | ext3 |
| 09:42.26 | jacekowski | on reasonable fast disk - couple seconds |
| 09:42.34 | Noobmonk3y | :) |
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| 09:42.54 | ShadowJK | n900 emmc :) |
| 09:42.57 | jacekowski | do you know that fsck is offline procedure? |
| 09:43.03 | jacekowski | couple seconds at most |
| 09:43.08 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: how are you fscking it? |
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| 09:43.39 | ShadowJK | edited /etc/event.d/rcS-late to add fsck before mount |
| 09:43.52 | Noobmonk3y | lol that sounds like a t-shirt logo . hows to you fsck yours? |
| 09:44.13 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: that's pointless |
| 09:44.22 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: use tune2fs |
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| 09:44.58 | MiXu- | Noobmonk3y: Haha. Good one =) |
| 09:45.04 | Noobmonk3y | :) |
| 09:45.05 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: tune2fs -c 1 /dev/whatever |
| 09:45.11 | timeless_mbp | sighs |
| 09:45.15 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: that will force fsck every single mount |
| 09:45.16 | Noobmonk3y | right time for a joyeous meeting... |
| 09:45.30 | timeless_mbp | someone please remind me to baby sit whichever 'brilliant minds' are responsible for the next 'calendar' app |
| 09:45.34 | ShadowJK | jacekowski: um, does kernel know how to do that |
| 09:45.42 | jacekowski | yes |
| 09:45.57 | ShadowJK | jacekowski: because like, there's no reference to fsck anywhere in /etc |
| 09:46.16 | jacekowski | kernel knows |
| 09:46.23 | jacekowski | and it's bad idea to do it anyways |
| 09:46.34 | cehteh | the mount command should know .. but i have no idea if busybox mount knows that |
| 09:46.44 | jacekowski | because you will end up with non booting device in case of any fs errors |
| 09:46.45 | cehteh | and the next problem is that it wont work for FAT |
| 09:46.55 | ShadowJK | I thought the fsck interval was fsck.ext3 being run, and doing nothing until the -c counter forced it to |
| 09:47.24 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: no |
| 09:47.28 | ShadowJK | well I managed to fsck MyDocs |
| 09:47.40 | cehteh | overall mounting is a bit pita .. anyone wants to make some package which hacks a normal fstab and mounting stuff in? :) |
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| 09:48.29 | ShadowJK | oh hm, something happened, charge led started blinking :) |
| 09:48.56 | tybollt | ugh? |
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| 09:49.07 | tybollt | charging bruhaha AGAIN? |
| 09:49.49 | tybollt | have we not been through every conceivable charging and or space-on-root issue yet? |
| 09:49.55 | hrw | morning |
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| 09:50.37 | ShadowJK | tybollt: no this is /home needing fsck |
| 09:50.44 | flux | I wonder if pr1.2 will resolve once and for resolve all the charging issues :) |
| 09:51.02 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: i never had any issues |
| 09:51.05 | jacekowski | ehh |
| 09:51.09 | jacekowski | i never had any issues |
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| 09:51.19 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: use tune2fs to force fsck |
| 09:51.23 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: if you really need to |
| 09:51.27 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: but don't do it |
| 09:51.37 | flux | jacekowski, have you ran out of battery? |
| 09:51.37 | jacekowski | it's bad idea |
| 09:51.42 | jacekowski | it's journaled FS |
| 09:51.44 | jacekowski | flux: yes |
| 09:51.47 | RurouniJones | Heh, played the "Air traffic control" game on an iPhone a few days ago, very fun. Someone make a maemo clone! |
| 09:51.57 | jacekowski | RurouniJones: there is maemo clone |
| 09:52.02 | ShadowJK | journaled fs doesn't mean anything |
| 09:52.04 | RurouniJones | No kidding? |
| 09:52.06 | jacekowski | RurouniJones: look in ovi store |
| 09:52.12 | ShadowJK | especially not on flash |
| 09:52.13 | flux | jacekowski, well, just last night I noticed that that had happened to me and left it charge overnight (powered off). couldn't start it in the morning before taking the battery out and putting it back in. |
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| 09:52.21 | RurouniJones | Cool, I was there a few days ago but didn't see anything obvious |
| 09:52.24 | ShadowJK | ooh, it booted |
| 09:52.46 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: journal is replayed every single mount |
| 09:52.52 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: independently of fsck |
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| 09:54.08 | ShadowJK | yes yes, but if watchdog kills the device in the middle of writing, a whole 256k chunk can be left in undefined state, and the journaling relies on 512 byte sectors that get written in-order |
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| 09:54.40 | RurouniJones | jacekowski: Don't suppose you know the name of the app do you? I can't find anything useful |
| 09:55.05 | jacekowski | RurouniJones: airport |
| 09:55.17 | jacekowski | RurouniJones: it's in ovi store not in app manager |
| 09:55.19 | RurouniJones | hehehe, imaginative |
| 09:55.28 | RurouniJones | aye, I am looking in the ovi store now on PC and n900 |
| 09:55.48 | RurouniJones | still not seeing anything, nothin on search either. Do you have a direct link? I guess my brain is failing badly |
| 09:55.51 | ShadowJK | besides, the fact the fsck DID find problems proves the journaling didnt work |
| 09:57.07 | ShadowJK | the reason boot didn't continue seems to be fsck asking to be run manually :( |
| 09:57.34 | RurouniJones | jacekowski: It is apparently no longer available for some reason :( |
| 09:58.45 | MiXu- | Hmm. So it seems :o |
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| 10:00.40 | RurouniJones | bahahahaa, N900 seismograph, that will be handy |
| 10:01.11 | Corsac | RurouniJones: there's a project in SF to detect seims using laptops acceleromters |
| 10:02.04 | MiXu- | The ovi store is a bit sad. :/ |
| 10:02.08 | Clickety | why |
| 10:02.25 | MiXu- | It has maybe two more apps for N900 than it did two months ago. |
| 10:02.28 | Clickety | i havent really looked at it yet i just downloaded this game roller evolution or something yesterday |
| 10:02.28 | RurouniJones | yea, the Ovi store is a bit...um, sparse |
| 10:02.32 | Clickety | where u can roll a ball or something |
| 10:02.38 | RurouniJones | bounc evolution |
| 10:02.42 | Clickety | yeah |
| 10:02.54 | RurouniJones | That and angry birds are the only, um, pro looking games I have come across |
| 10:03.04 | Clickety | yeah the games are a bit sparse |
| 10:03.13 | jacekowski | RurouniJones: i've seen it there yesterday |
| 10:03.16 | Khertan | Of course noone can publish things to ovi yet |
| 10:03.24 | Khertan | it s still not really open |
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| 10:04.09 | RurouniJones | jacekowski: You mean this right? http://maemo.nokia.com/maemo-select/applications/airport-touch/ -> following the ovi store link shows that is isn't avilable |
| 10:04.10 | MiXu- | Khertan: Oh. Why is that? |
| 10:04.18 | MiXu- | That's even more sad in my opinion. |
| 10:04.33 | Khertan | http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/vectormine/ |
| 10:04.42 | Khertan | MiXu-, noone know ... |
| 10:04.55 | MiXu- | :P |
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| 10:05.13 | Khertan | my game ^ isn't publish on ovistore . .. so this is why i ve try to publish to extras |
| 10:05.34 | Khertan | but noone care of problems for non-free |
| 10:05.42 | MiXu- | alright |
| 10:05.56 | Khertan | so i think this is the same for other developers |
| 10:06.00 | RurouniJones | So I gues the apps/game on ovi now are done via special contract with nokia? |
| 10:06.14 | nidO | basically yeah |
| 10:06.17 | Khertan | sio2interactive have stop making game for maemo |
| 10:06.24 | nidO | seemed like rovio were going to get some content in the store |
| 10:06.43 | nidO | but then the level pack for angry birds was put up, pulled off, put up again, pulled off again, and has now vanished |
| 10:06.56 | Khertan | and many other pro developer will not do game too for maemo |
| 10:07.04 | thresh | yeah, cause apparently APT has no built-in DRM |
| 10:07.07 | jacekowski | hmm |
| 10:07.10 | thresh | (and thanks god it doesnt) |
| 10:07.14 | jacekowski | i'm still not sure what to do with sygic |
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| 10:07.20 | Khertan | the problem isn't apt |
| 10:07.21 | jacekowski | download from torrent |
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| 10:07.35 | Khertan | registration can be done without drm |
| 10:07.40 | jacekowski | download from torrent and send them as much as i think it is worth paying for it |
| 10:07.49 | RurouniJones | Wonder what game engine Rovio uses for angry birds |
| 10:07.50 | jacekowski | or just buy it for a full price |
| 10:08.07 | MiXu- | =) |
| 10:08.09 | Khertan | look at my game |
| 10:08.13 | Khertan | i didn't use drm |
| 10:08.20 | Khertan | just a registration key |
| 10:08.28 | jacekowski | drm is little bit pointless |
| 10:08.33 | jacekowski | and any registration |
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| 10:08.43 | thresh | thinks games should be free |
| 10:08.55 | Khertan | i didn't understand what they didn't do similar things for the ovistore |
| 10:09.14 | jacekowski | there are people that just crack that sort of things for fun |
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| 10:09.29 | Khertan | thresh, free source code .... yes ... other not |
| 10:09.49 | jacekowski | free source code? |
| 10:09.52 | nidO | the hopeful guy in me has fingers crossed that after the qt upgrade we'll see a major new ovi store revision that includes all the promised stuff like application updates, as well as a working maemo store |
| 10:09.54 | jacekowski | pointless |
| 10:10.19 | Khertan | you know that doing game is really long ... difficult, and an independant dev cann't do it alone ... |
| 10:10.29 | Khertan | jacekowski, you are pointless |
| 10:10.37 | SpeedEvil | Speaking personally. At times I have serious cashflow problems - I have not had the heating on this winter, and it's been down to 5C in here - hence I will not pay for stuff, I download pirated copies, and then make a list of stuff I've enjoyed - and purchase stuff from the same authors when I'm able to. |
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| 10:10.44 | jacekowski | have you seen any opsn source game that? |
| 10:10.52 | jacekowski | have you seen any successfull open source game? |
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| 10:11.04 | Khertan | jacekowski, yes |
| 10:11.07 | jacekowski | name |
| 10:11.10 | Stskeeps | jacekowski: openttd |
| 10:11.10 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 10:11.13 | nidO | depends on your definition of succesful, but yes loads |
| 10:11.16 | SpeedEvil | jacekowski: nethack |
| 10:11.17 | Khertan | Nexus |
| 10:11.27 | Khertan | Freeciv |
| 10:11.32 | mece | bzflag! |
| 10:11.35 | Khertan | Battle for Wesnoth |
| 10:11.36 | nidO | nethack, freeciv, hell even TA:spring, if by succesful you mean played and enjoyed a lot |
| 10:11.36 | jacekowski | based on already existing game |
| 10:11.53 | Khertan | not nethack :) |
| 10:12.00 | SpeedEvil | Doom even. |
| 10:12.05 | tybollt | DNF! most successfull game EVAH |
| 10:12.52 | mece | tybollt, LOL |
| 10:12.57 | RurouniJones | Bleh, nidO, I agree with you, hope they pull their act together, because...yea. |
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| 10:19.35 | ShadowJK | ugh, fs totally destoyed after fsck :D |
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| 10:26.13 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: that's because you did it online |
| 10:26.32 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: or did something equally stupid |
| 10:26.37 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: use tune2fs to do it |
| 10:26.37 | ShadowJK | No, I did it before /home was mounted |
| 10:26.51 | jacekowski | how do you know? |
| 10:27.08 | jacekowski | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:28.58 | ShadowJK | let me check.. |
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| 10:30.17 | cityLights2 | hi all, can I get recomandation on what upnp server to install on my desktop to server music to my N900? |
| 10:30.24 | ShadowJK | jacekowski, it wasn't mounted |
| 10:30.40 | ShadowJK | I put the fsck in /etc/events.d/rcS-late |
| 10:30.56 | nidO | cityLights2 - whats os |
| 10:30.59 | ShadowJK | and just now I put a cat /proc/mounts > /mounts.log, which confirms home wasn't mounted at that point |
| 10:31.19 | cityLights2 | nid0: gentoo |
| 10:31.32 | cityLights2 | sorry was obvius to me I use linux |
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| 10:32.22 | cityLights2 | I mean most ppl here surely use linux and have a favorite upnp server |
| 10:32.37 | nidO | you've got a huge choice then, mediatomb is a decent option |
| 10:33.20 | mece | nidO, mediabomb you say. That works well with the N900 then? |
| 10:33.23 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: why are you doing that anywas? |
| 10:33.42 | ShadowJK | jacekowski, because it was mildly corrupted after a "random reboot" |
| 10:33.43 | jacekowski | ShadowJK: and home should be mounted already when rcS-late is invoked |
| 10:33.49 | ShadowJK | it isn't |
| 10:33.57 | ShadowJK | because the command that mounts it is in rcS-late |
| 10:34.18 | nidO | mece i've only tested it briefly and it worked, for day to day here though my fileserver runs w7 and just uses wmp's upnp server |
| 10:34.44 | jacekowski | if i would be hacking my device in that way i would hack it to use reiserfs |
| 10:35.24 | ShadowJK | The only hacking is trying to make it fix its corrupted fs |
| 10:35.52 | ShadowJK | That is the only hacking I've been doing |
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| 10:41.47 | mece | nidO, ok, I'll test it at home. Did it require lots of confing? |
| 10:45.04 | nidO | not particularly, can just fire it up and go using defaults if you have sqlite running, or setup a mysql db and user - beyond that it's essentially just plugin the media folders to add |
| 10:46.15 | mece | is it just me or does neverball look like it's made for the N900? |
| 10:46.26 | mece | http://neverball.org/screenshots.php <- accelerometer heaven |
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| 10:47.06 | cityLights2 | scripting question , can I use [ -z $DEVICE ] && DEVICE=tap0 ? |
| 10:47.34 | cityLights2 | or should I [ x$DEVICE == x ] && DEVICE=tap0 |
| 10:47.38 | cityLights2 | ? |
| 10:47.40 | jacekowski | mece: more like nightmare |
| 10:47.45 | jacekowski | mece: it's hard with a keyboard |
| 10:47.47 | nidO | mece: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=16773 |
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| 10:47.56 | mece | cityLights2, I think you need bash for that. |
| 10:48.23 | nidO | wrong link, try this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=47466 |
| 10:48.42 | cityLights2 | I want to run this on the maemo with no bash to set a default value |
| 10:50.31 | tybollt | IIRC -z is valid on bsh |
| 10:50.35 | tybollt | so yeah try that |
| 10:51.10 | tybollt | although I'd use a full fledged if-statement |
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| 11:04.20 | italodance | hi kid babes |
| 11:04.27 | italodance | naemo is still live |
| 11:04.31 | italodance | alive |
| 11:04.54 | italodance | incredible |
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| 11:05.01 | brody | does anybody know where are the sms's stored? |
| 11:05.09 | brody | or the recent calls |
| 11:05.11 | italodance | who's persian? |
| 11:05.16 | brody | or the contacts |
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| 11:06.58 | ShadowJK | hmm... |
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| 11:08.43 | jacekowski | brody: .osso-abook |
| 11:09.19 | brody | cool thx |
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| 11:16.11 | Arif_ | yawns |
| 11:17.35 | mece | Arif_, have some coffee |
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| 11:20.05 | Arif_ | eww |
| 11:20.06 | Arif_ | coffee |
| 11:21.15 | ShadowJK | so it seems I can't just flash the mmc image |
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| 11:21.28 | ShadowJK | ponders trying to hack rcS-late to format /home instead ;D |
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| 11:26.28 | mgedmin | ShadowJK, eh, why? |
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| 11:27.36 | ShadowJK | instead of flashing rootfs and emmc to fix corrupted /home |
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| 11:28.09 | mgedmin | hmm |
| 11:29.16 | cato` | is it posible to force maemo to update its music metadata cache ? |
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| 11:37.01 | Anssi__ | find . -name "*mp3" | xargs touch ;#maybe? |
| 11:37.23 | Arif_ | tracker-processes -r ? ;p |
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| 11:40.01 | cato` | tracker-processes -r sounds harsh ... |
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| 11:41.04 | Arif_ | it just removes the databbase.. |
| 11:41.32 | cato` | but then I'll have to reboot to make it build new ones |
| 11:41.45 | Arif_ | you could just open the media player too... |
| 11:41.52 | Arif_ | ;p |
| 11:42.00 | cato` | haha, ok. I'll try it |
| 11:42.03 | Anssi__ | cato, tracker-processes --help |
| 11:43.00 | Anssi__ | there was reindex option at least in my version. |
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| 11:44.34 | cato` | yes, it did it |
| 11:44.37 | cato` | thansk |
| 11:44.40 | cato` | -k |
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| 11:45.18 | Arif_ | the joy of knowing useless commands |
| 11:45.19 | Arif_ | \o/ |
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| 11:46.49 | talmai | Hi everyone! Is there an easy way to set a custom autocomplete dictionary for a specific gtk Entry? |
| 11:47.39 | Arif_ | I wish I could get a Turkish dictionary.. |
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| 11:50.22 | ech0dish | turn by turn navigation in US going to be available soon? any eta? |
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| 11:50.54 | Arif_ | Sygic? |
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| 11:52.06 | ech0dish | was at their site the other day it said for Europe |
| 11:52.19 | nidO | it was released for usa like a day after launch |
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| 11:53.39 | ech0dish | hrm wonder what i was reading them lol.. |
| 11:53.45 | nidO | http://www.sygic.com/index.php/en/how-to-buy.html |
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| 11:54.09 | nidO | select maemo then you get a choice of eu russia middle east africa, or north central and south america |
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| 11:55.06 | ech0dish | thanks dude |
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| 11:57.20 | silferme | for some reason im not able to reactivate the keyboard at debian lxde after returning from maemo enviroment |
| 11:57.27 | silferme | any ideas why? |
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| 12:10.20 | ech0dish | is there a car mount for the n900? |
| 12:10.42 | ech0dish | or perhaps a generic that is known to fit? |
| 12:10.42 | SpeedEvil | Not from nokia |
| 12:10.42 | SpeedEvil | At least, I don't think so |
| 12:10.55 | SpeedEvil | I have a generic from dealextreme that fits. |
| 12:10.56 | kamui | I have a mount that works |
| 12:10.57 | lcuk | i have seen one |
| 12:10.59 | lcuk | its not nokia |
| 12:10.59 | SpeedEvil | It is very bulky though |
| 12:11.00 | kamui | however, it sucks to use |
| 12:11.02 | kamui | :( |
| 12:11.12 | ech0dish | :( i want to mount it and use it as mp3 player and gps in my car lol |
| 12:11.16 | kamui | I think I got my generic from dealextreme too speed |
| 12:11.20 | mortal | could it be possible to chroot to some newer debian installation and have all the modules and drives from the os2008 |
| 12:11.28 | kamui | it was originally to hold a different pmp that had gps |
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| 12:12.44 | lcuk | ech0dish, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=565036&postcount=112 |
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| 12:17.34 | RST38h | moos |
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| 12:28.34 | kamui | any new news |
| 12:28.40 | kamui | about 1.2 or meego |
| 12:28.50 | haltdef | don't think so |
| 12:29.02 | Arif_ | they're both canceled |
| 12:29.52 | thresh | and each time you ask, their release is postponed for a week |
| 12:30.20 | haltdef | from what I can tell the n900 is win with maemo 5 as is :P |
| 12:30.21 | timeless_mbp | nah, just 5 business days :) |
| 12:31.02 | hrw | kamui: 1.2 will be in november |
| 12:31.14 | hrw | thats what I just read in one email |
| 12:31.15 | lcuk | haltdef, :) |
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| 12:31.50 | RST38h | thresh: It requires a sacrifice! |
| 12:32.19 | lcuk | sacrifices RST38h |
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| 12:36.23 | Arif_ | aww |
| 12:36.24 | Arif_ | no update |
| 12:37.51 | RST38h | lcuk: You really want to get PR1.2 compiled for x86 instead of armel? =) |
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| 12:38.22 | Arif_ | does it come with an x86 processor for N900? |
| 12:38.53 | RST38h | No. |
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| 14:13.47 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo | http://maemo.org/ | http://maemo.nokia.com/ | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org/ | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Free software mirror: http://espejo.freemoe.org/ | Can't talk? Register. Getting spammed? /mode YOURNICK +R |
| 14:13.51 | ShadowJK | for web surfing I don't notice any difference between edge and 3g on N900 :( |
| 14:14.03 | ShadowJK | For gpodder 3g is awesome, I get 5 megabits/s |
| 14:14.13 | ShadowJK | and about 200-ish kbit/s on edge |
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| 14:14.38 | nidO | I get a huge difference in surfing speeds between the two, mostly because o2 uk's edge speed is l-a-m-e |
| 14:14.51 | tybollt | FIQ: no they don't, 3G still caps their connections right? I went w/ Telenor because they have no data limit on theirs. |
| 14:15.22 | DocScrutinizer | tybollt: (no national roaming) that's the standard aiui. Same here - except for O2 still using T-Mo in rural areas where they don't see profit for own BTS. They had to establish this contract thru swiss carrier's contract with T-Mo though |
| 14:15.41 | FIQ | "caps" |
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| 14:15.52 | FIQ | sorry my english.. caps=? |
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| 14:16.00 | nidO | has a data transfer limit |
| 14:16.05 | FIQ | ah |
| 14:16.06 | tybollt | DocScrutinizer: uhuh, so 3 in UK doesn't own an actual net then, they jsut rent it all?= |
| 14:16.23 | nidO | they have a 3g network |
| 14:16.23 | FIQ | i had unlimited for 199kr/month before |
| 14:16.27 | nidO | with suprisingly good coverage |
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| 14:16.33 | FIQ | now i have 5G limit for 89 |
| 14:16.38 | nidO | but they also piggyback orange's network in areas they dont have their own |
| 14:16.56 | nidO | so you get full national coverage with 3, its just if you're somewhere rural your connection's going through orange |
| 14:16.57 | FIQ | and that's enough for me, even at N900 |
| 14:17.22 | DocScrutinizer | tybollt: no idea about UK and 3 |
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| 14:17.41 | FIQ | 750MB down as of 16 march |
| 14:17.55 | FIQ | so around 3GB/month |
| 14:18.03 | Arif_ | you should use more bw! |
| 14:18.38 | FIQ | i used 0.3GB/month at my old phone |
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| 14:18.47 | FIQ | and that was much for me then. :P |
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| 14:19.11 | FIQ | my old was a sony ericsson P1, a nice phone imo but pretty outdated nowdays |
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| 14:19.25 | Arif_ | uses about the same amount |
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| 14:19.50 | FIQ | wtf is happening? |
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| 14:20.01 | FIQ | were it a netsplit before? |
| 14:20.18 | nidO | not recently |
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| 14:20.30 | Arif_ | I used 5GB since 2 march apparently |
| 14:20.31 | Arif_ | :( |
| 14:20.33 | FIQ | nice mass-join then |
| 14:20.47 | FIQ | heh |
| 14:20.55 | FIQ | interesting thing: |
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| 14:21.22 | FIQ | my brother has a broadband from three, 199 per month, a limit at 3GB ithink |
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| 14:21.37 | FIQ | of the same operator (3) |
| 14:21.49 | FIQ | and i pay less and get more. :d |
| 14:21.50 | Arif_ | we have great ISPs |
| 14:21.59 | Arif_ | with 250MB/month limits |
| 14:22.00 | Arif_ | :D |
| 14:22.13 | FIQ | nice |
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| 14:22.24 | FIQ | wait, wut |
| 14:22.24 | Arif_ | and voip is blocked |
| 14:22.29 | FIQ | MB? |
| 14:22.33 | Arif_ | yes |
| 14:22.34 | Arif_ | MB |
| 14:22.36 | FIQ | lol |
| 14:22.45 | nidO | FIQ german mobile operators are dreadful |
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| 14:22.59 | Arif_ | I'm on the only unlimited dataplan in .nl |
| 14:23.04 | Arif_ | nidO, Aldi talk \o/ |
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| 14:23.11 | nidO | awful contracts, awful prices, awful limits |
| 14:23.24 | Arif_ | I got 5GB for 15eur |
| 14:23.45 | FIQ | guess i'm pretty lucky then |
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| 14:23.55 | dmj726_n9001 | unlimited data, no contract here |
| 14:24.12 | nidO | ah |
| 14:24.22 | nidO | the split came late then. |
| 14:24.30 | Arif_ | I'm on a contract....I pay more for internet than minutes |
| 14:24.30 | FIQ | uh |
| 14:24.30 | Arif_ | :D |
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| 14:26.04 | jcrawford | Arif_, how is 5gb unlimited lol |
| 14:26.13 | Arif_ | no |
| 14:26.14 | jcrawford | i would go throught that 5gb in 2 days probably rofl |
| 14:26.15 | Arif_ | that was in Germany |
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| 14:26.18 | jcrawford | ah |
| 14:26.28 | nidO | though oddly, 5gb in the uk is unlimited |
| 14:26.33 | nidO | or 3gb, or 2gb |
| 14:26.34 | Hrww | hmm.. sdk/armel is updated too |
| 14:26.43 | dmj726_n9001 | often carriers call 5gb unlimited in the us |
| 14:26.43 | Arif_ | nidO, or 500MB? |
| 14:26.46 | Hrww | who tried upgrading n900 with sdk pacakges? |
| 14:26.48 | nidO | yep |
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| 14:27.05 | Arif_ | apparently at Voda NL 250MB is unlimited too |
| 14:27.05 | Arif_ | :D |
| 14:27.13 | nidO | somehow, the advertising watchdog here decided that advertising something as unlimited then putting a limit on it is all fine and good |
| 14:27.19 | dmj726_n9001 | umm that's not right |
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| 14:27.49 | Arif_ | the only limit I have is I get capped to 384 after 2GB usage :( |
| 14:28.00 | lcuk | didnt they squirm out of it by saying you can connect anytime |
| 14:28.03 | dmj726_n9001 | tmobile doesn't seem to have the 5gb cap as far as i could tell |
| 14:29.31 | dmj726_n9001 | i haven't managed to use 5gb though. |
| 14:29.45 | dmj726_n9001 | n900 keeps connecting to the wifi |
| 14:30.13 | Appiah | use wlan switcher! :) |
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| 14:30.52 | Arif_ | don't add your wlan ap! |
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| 14:31.23 | FIQ | the mouse enabling in browser is ugly |
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| 14:31.39 | dmj726_n9001 | perfectly fine with it defaulting to wifi speeds though |
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| 14:32.14 | FIQ | my wlan sucks |
| 14:32.24 | Arif_ | for some reason it takes ages to update the app manager |
| 14:32.30 | FIQ | almost only 2x faster than my 3g connections |
| 14:32.36 | Arif_ | lol |
| 14:32.40 | Arif_ | whats your wlan |
| 14:32.49 | FIQ | hm, that appeals for my manger too |
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| 14:32.53 | FIQ | it's annoying |
| 14:32.57 | Arif_ | yeah |
| 14:33.02 | Arif_ | takes ages to install multiple apps |
| 14:33.14 | Arif_ | I wanna install everything from games |
| 14:33.14 | FIQ | it _should_ be 24Mbit/s |
| 14:33.15 | Arif_ | ;( |
| 14:33.33 | Arif_ | wow |
| 14:33.36 | Arif_ | you have 12Mb 3G? |
| 14:33.41 | FIQ | but it's just 6Mbit down - in an ideal situration |
| 14:33.57 | FIQ | and downloads usually goes 90KB/s |
| 14:34.01 | FIQ | yay me |
| 14:34.39 | MarcusM | Not worth getting a n900 for wlan and phone use only? :( |
| 14:34.40 | FIQ | 3 is going to get 21Mbit/s 3.5G btw, but that's irrelevant |
| 14:34.53 | nidO | 14mbit* |
| 14:35.01 | FIQ | hm |
| 14:35.05 | FIQ | maybe 14 |
| 14:35.09 | FIQ | but w/e |
| 14:35.57 | nidO | ill believe that when it happens though |
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| 14:36.54 | Hrww | 638 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 24 not upgraded. |
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| 14:37.05 | hrw | nice set of updates for n900 |
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| 14:37.46 | MohammadAG | <Hrww> 638 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 24 not upgraded. |
| 14:37.50 | MohammadAG | hate it when that happens :/ |
| 14:38.15 | hrw | http://hrw.pastebin.com/bximjQ5z |
| 14:38.24 | hrw | MohammadAG: ? |
| 14:38.29 | hrw | why? |
| 14:38.52 | MohammadAG | When there are non upgradable packages |
| 14:39.15 | MohammadAG | kernel-flasher isn't getting updated here |
| 14:39.22 | MohammadAG | I hate having a 1 not upgraded at the end |
| 14:39.27 | hrw | ah.. they are upgradable probably too - a bit of manipulating |
| 14:40.00 | MohammadAG | hrw, why not use HAM? |
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| 14:40.06 | MohammadAG | it's safer when doing system upgrades |
| 14:40.40 | hrw | MohammadAG: I need to check what is going to be upgraded - sdk repos are not device friendly |
| 14:40.40 | FredrIQ | [15:39:38] <MohammadAG> I hate having a 1 not upgraded at the end |
| 14:40.47 | FredrIQ | mksh install failed befor |
| 14:40.48 | FredrIQ | e |
| 14:41.04 | FredrIQ | now i cannot upgrade, use it, even not uninstall |
| 14:41.09 | FredrIQ | :P |
| 14:41.29 | FredrIQ | guess i can do it manually |
| 14:41.36 | FredrIQ | but i'm too lazy for it |
| 14:42.19 | Arif_ | get a new N900! |
| 14:42.26 | hrw | making sensible backup of n900 takes time |
| 14:42.36 | MohammadAG | Arif_, not really helpful are you :p |
| 14:42.46 | Arif_ | never am :) |
| 14:42.51 | MohammadAG | says a lot |
| 14:42.52 | MohammadAG | :p |
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| 14:43.17 | FredrIQ | Arif_: prefer reflash if i can choose... :p |
| 14:43.31 | Arif_ | mostly because I have no idea about all hte loonix stuff :D |
| 14:43.56 | MarcusM | bye bye. I have to go to work to earn money for the n900 ._. |
| 14:44.01 | MohammadAG | Arif_, three years ago I was the same |
| 14:44.04 | FredrIQ | well |
| 14:44.18 | MohammadAG | everyone starts as a newbie |
| 14:44.32 | FredrIQ | i use win on my computer (only because burning a live CD failed) |
| 14:44.44 | FredrIQ | i don't know that much about linux |
| 14:44.45 | Arif_ | I use Win7 on my desktop |
| 14:44.50 | Arif_ | my tv card doesn't work on Linux |
| 14:44.54 | Arif_ | ={ |
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| 14:44.58 | FredrIQ | but i'm not a completly noob. :3 |
| 14:45.12 | nidO | I use w7 on my desktop purely because it's the most productive workstation platform for me. |
| 14:45.23 | Arif_ | yeah, that too |
| 14:45.24 | Arif_ | it just works :P |
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| 14:45.47 | hrw | Arif_: dvb card? |
| 14:45.54 | Arif_ | yea |
| 14:46.16 | Arif_ | the card itself worked, but the CAM wasn't recognised ;( |
| 14:46.16 | FredrIQ | the thing i like most with linux (exept being so open) is the package manager idea |
| 14:46.25 | FredrIQ | wished win had that |
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| 14:46.36 | nidO | run by who though |
| 14:46.51 | MohammadAG | I uninstalled Windows more than a year ago |
| 14:46.51 | Arif_ | a windows 7 version of marketplace? :P |
| 14:46.58 | nidO | im sure ms would love to offer it, and then imagine how much outcry there'd be |
| 14:47.12 | MohammadAG | what if windows goes open source |
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| 14:47.27 | MohammadAG | reads what he said and thinks he's being an idiot |
| 14:47.28 | hrw | MohammadAG: reactos? |
| 14:47.29 | Arif_ | we'd have 40 different versions of Windows only 3 people used |
| 14:47.31 | FredrIQ | lol |
| 14:47.40 | Arif_ | oh wait....thats Linux |
| 14:48.18 | FredrIQ | the only reason for having 38440372 distros is because having a linux for everyone |
| 14:48.42 | rmrfchik_ | FredrIQ: is think is more than 38440372 people live |
| 14:48.52 | rmrfchik_ | i think |
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| 14:49.09 | Arif_ | we could have 1 distro that works for most people too |
| 14:49.11 | MohammadAG | hrw, is it a linux distro using wine? |
| 14:49.13 | FredrIQ | i think not everybody uses comåuter |
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| 14:49.20 | FredrIQ | computers* |
| 14:49.23 | nidO | MohammadAG no |
| 14:49.31 | hrw | MohammadAG: no, it is foss implementation of ms windows |
| 14:49.38 | nidO | reactos is an oss o/s built entirely from scratch to mimic windows |
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| 14:50.00 | MohammadAG | looks interesting |
| 14:50.03 | MohammadAG | downloading |
| 14:50.03 | FredrIQ | reactos... |
| 14:50.12 | FredrIQ | my parents would love that distro |
| 14:50.20 | lcuk | they have much in common dont they? isnt one of the key devs a wine guy, or the other way round |
| 14:50.28 | FredrIQ | getting the stableness of linux and the UI from windows |
| 14:50.38 | MohammadAG | 35MBs, cool |
| 14:50.51 | lcuk | i just want the xp window manager in linux |
| 14:50.53 | nidO | except windows is perfectly stable when looked after, and its still not a linux distro. |
| 14:50.57 | MohammadAG | FredrIQ, not a distro |
| 14:50.57 | ptl | Windows UI is crap |
| 14:51.04 | MohammadAG | Compiz FTW |
| 14:51.07 | FredrIQ | hm |
| 14:51.14 | FredrIQ | a window manager? de? |
| 14:51.17 | lcuk | ubuntu has quirks |
| 14:51.29 | MohammadAG | Using GNOME |
| 14:51.31 | lcuk | err gnome |
| 14:51.36 | MohammadAG | :) |
| 14:51.41 | lcuk | and everyother wm has same |
| 14:51.44 | MohammadAG | KDE looks windows-y |
| 14:51.51 | MohammadAG | and it's resource heavy |
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| 14:51.57 | FredrIQ | i like kde |
| 14:51.57 | lcuk | look!=feel |
| 14:52.02 | FredrIQ | : < |
| 14:52.11 | Arif_ | I need moar RAM |
| 14:52.20 | MohammadAG | lcuk, used it before |
| 14:52.28 | MohammadAG | again, it's resource heavy |
| 14:52.36 | MohammadAG | not sure how it'd run on this i5 though |
| 14:52.45 | FredrIQ | .5GB |
| 14:52.48 | FredrIQ | eh |
| 14:52.49 | FredrIQ | wait |
| 14:52.50 | MohammadAG | oh well, installing it on ubuntu |
| 14:52.54 | FredrIQ | resource heavy.. |
| 14:53.07 | FredrIQ | fail by me |
| 14:53.09 | Arif_ | depends how much resources you have |
| 14:53.10 | Arif_ | :P |
| 14:53.23 | ShadowJK | purchases sygic for maemo |
| 14:53.29 | FredrIQ | kde isn't that resource heavy? |
| 14:53.35 | MohammadAG | asks ShadowJK to share it |
| 14:53.41 | Arif_ | ShadowJK, its only 1.8GB! |
| 14:53.47 | FredrIQ | i used it on my 3-4 years old computer |
| 14:53.48 | MohammadAG | says the last two letter's of ShadowJK's nick |
| 14:54.01 | MohammadAG | s/letter's/letters/ |
| 14:54.03 | ShadowJK | MohammadAG, I doubt the key works on more than one device? :) |
| 14:54.13 | Arif_ | it won't |
| 14:54.18 | MohammadAG | ShadowJK, I think someone mentioned it does |
| 14:54.28 | Arif_ | the key is imei dependant |
| 14:54.32 | MohammadAG | shame it doesn't have maps for us |
| 14:54.39 | ShadowJK | they do now |
| 14:54.41 | Arif_ | it does |
| 14:54.42 | MohammadAG | us = where I live, not US |
| 14:54.43 | Arif_ | :D |
| 14:54.59 | FredrIQ | anyway, can someone put a simple guide on what to edit and how, to customize keyb layouts? |
| 14:55.06 | FredrIQ | wants tab |
| 14:55.16 | Arif_ | wants Turkish characters |
| 14:55.21 | MohammadAG | FredrIQ, in xchat? |
| 14:55.31 | FredrIQ | not just there |
| 14:55.37 | FredrIQ | everywhere |
| 14:55.40 | nidO | theres a turkish localization app in -testing iirc |
| 14:55.48 | ShadowJK | MohammadAG, can I guess |
| 14:55.51 | Arif_ | yeah I have it |
| 14:55.57 | Arif_ | I even did part of it :P |
| 14:56.02 | FredrIQ | but having tab enabled in xchat would be nice yeah |
| 14:56.15 | ShadowJK | oh, I would have guessed wrong |
| 14:56.19 | Arif_ | but I can't type turkish characters on the hardware keyboard |
| 14:56.23 | Arif_ | I always have to use the virtual one |
| 14:56.25 | MohammadAG | ShadowJK, guess what? :) |
| 14:56.33 | ShadowJK | MohammadAG, where you are |
| 14:56.42 | summel | :O symbian does not support ad hoc wifi connections? :( |
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| 14:56.52 | Arif_ | summel, it should |
| 14:56.57 | Arif_ | =P |
| 14:56.58 | FredrIQ | it does? |
| 14:57.03 | massoud | hey there |
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| 14:57.11 | summel | i get "function not supported" oO |
| 14:57.17 | Arif_ | haha |
| 14:57.23 | FredrIQ | and btw |
| 14:57.26 | MohammadAG | ShadowJK, my IP shows :o |
| 14:57.32 | ShadowJK | yes |
| 14:57.37 | MohammadAG | why isn't cloaking enabled? |
| 14:57.37 | massoud | there is no way to stop/disable wlancond ? |
| 14:57.40 | ShadowJK | But I made a guess in my head before I checked the IP |
| 14:57.40 | FredrIQ | tried to get hedgewars running through ARM Debian |
| 14:57.53 | MohammadAG | ShadowJK, well, say what you guessed then |
| 14:57.58 | ShadowJK | massoud, it has to support ad-hoc.. that's how joikuspot works :) |
| 14:58.03 | FredrIQ | it installs fine, but trying to start it result in "floating point exception" |
| 14:58.06 | ShadowJK | MohammadAG, I would have started my guessing with UAE |
| 14:58.25 | summel | ShadowJK: i can't connect to my ad-hoc network... creating one should work, yes |
| 14:58.26 | MohammadAG | ShadowJK, nope, think further away |
| 14:58.31 | FredrIQ | is that because N900 has to little resources, a common problem or a HW fail? |
| 14:59.05 | ShadowJK | MohammadAG, and then your IP says Israel |
| 14:59.23 | massoud | but i want to destroy my interface andrecreate them but the watch with wlancond wants to create the managed one |
| 14:59.24 | ShadowJK | fredrin, hedgewars fail |
| 14:59.38 | ShadowJK | FredrIQ, hedgewars fail |
| 14:59.52 | MohammadAG | ShadowJK, well you failed at guessing :p |
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| 15:00.29 | mortal | how do I move the widgets on the screen? |
| 15:00.45 | lcukn900 | with the power of your mind |
| 15:00.50 | Arif_ | and your finger |
| 15:01.03 | lcukn900 | orbarron, failing that enter edit mode on the desktop |
| 15:01.05 | mortal | with the stylus, it does not work |
| 15:01.07 | MohammadAG | nice |
| 15:01.10 | MohammadAG | /scratchbox/login: line 237: 3110 Segmentation fault |
| 15:01.13 | lcukn900 | click thr little gear icon |
| 15:01.14 | MohammadAG | as always :/ |
| 15:01.47 | lcukn900 | press bare desktop area, gear icon appears in top right, click, profit |
| 15:01.52 | MohammadAG | click an empty area and click the gear icon, or hold an empty area |
| 15:01.55 | mortal | will having swap enabled kill my sd card? |
| 15:02.09 | MohammadAG | it might wear the flash |
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| 15:04.06 | ShadowJK | "We will extend regional coverage in coming days with new region in every 2 or 3 days." |
| 15:06.47 | MohammadAG | ShadowJK, I have Sygic maps |
| 15:06.53 | MohammadAG | but they're for an older edition |
| 15:07.04 | MohammadAG | car navigation system has it |
| 15:07.13 | Arif_ | does it have .il maps? |
| 15:08.10 | MohammadAG | yeah |
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| 15:08.21 | MohammadAG | Arif_, and in hebrew :/ |
| 15:08.40 | ShadowJK | is that bad? |
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| 15:09.35 | noobmonk3y | heard the words "Segmentation Fault".... crinnnnnnnnnge.. |
| 15:10.03 | Arif_ | segments noobmonk3y |
| 15:10.06 | MohammadAG | ShadowJK, I'm not installing a hebew keymap to run sygic |
| 15:10.26 | MohammadAG | plus I'm not that good in hebrew, so memorizing roadnames can be tedious for me |
| 15:11.35 | ShadowJK | ah. I live in an officially bi-lingual area, where each place has two names. It's however pretty random WHICH name gps navigation softwares decide is the "correct" one, and in most towns people only know one of them, and it turns out to be the one that gps doesn't know about |
| 15:11.55 | Arif_ | lol |
| 15:12.15 | Arif_ | where might that be ! |
| 15:12.20 | MohammadAG | ShadowJK, tri-lingual here |
| 15:12.21 | MohammadAG | :p |
| 15:12.43 | Arif_ | whats the third? |
| 15:12.53 | Arif_ | Hebrew, Arabic, English? :p |
| 15:12.56 | MohammadAG | English, Arabic, Hebew |
| 15:12.57 | ShadowJK | Arif_, west coast finland :P |
| 15:12.59 | DocScrutinizer | mortal: will reduce lifetime from 100 to 10 years |
| 15:13.16 | Arif_ | ShadowJK, I didn't know Finland had two languages ;o |
| 15:13.47 | DocScrutinizer | mortal: btw swap is on eMMC, not on SD |
| 15:13.56 | MohammadAG | ShadowJK, the whole Middle East isn't on Sygic's site |
| 15:14.23 | ShadowJK | MohammadAG, they promised a new region every week or so in that massive thread on talk.maemo.org :) |
| 15:14.33 | ShadowJK | let's hope middle east comes :) |
| 15:14.45 | mortal | ok thanks |
| 15:15.13 | Arif_ | I'm suprised they have maps of Turkey |
| 15:15.28 | Arif_ | as there are about 50 name changes every day |
| 15:15.28 | Arif_ | :D |
| 15:15.55 | MohammadAG | Arif_, I was in Turkey more than 7 years ago |
| 15:15.57 | DocScrutinizer | who cares? |
| 15:16.01 | MohammadAG | loved the fact that you pay in millions |
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| 15:16.20 | ShadowJK | 3 hours left on the download |
| 15:16.29 | ShadowJK | I should have used my N900 to download sygic.. would have been faster :) |
| 15:16.30 | Arif_ | well, you don't anymore |
| 15:16.45 | Arif_ | they got rid of that in like....2004 :O |
| 15:16.47 | Arif_ | or 2005 |
| 15:16.52 | Arif_ | somwhere long ago :D |
| 15:17.57 | DocScrutinizer | I guess you easily get change in millions though XP |
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| 15:19.09 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, LOL |
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| 15:23.57 | lupine_85 | wonders how useful the local dns resolver actually is |
| 15:25.29 | Arif_ | nothing on the N900 is very useful :p |
| 15:26.20 | MohammadAG | Arif_, nothing on the iPhone is useful :P |
| 15:26.27 | Arkenoi | oops, sdk cannot work while selinux is in enforcing mode |
| 15:26.30 | Arif_ | there's nothing on the iphone |
| 15:26.33 | orbarron | lcukn900: ??? |
| 15:26.39 | Arkenoi | it really sucks |
| 15:26.47 | nidO | a lot of the apps are though tbh, and most of the really useful ones dont get written for other platforms :< |
| 15:27.06 | lcukn900 | orbarron ? |
| 15:27.22 | lcuk | what sup orbarron |
| 15:27.36 | orbarron | thought you had ping me :P |
| 15:28.42 | lcuk | i can if oyu like |
| 15:28.47 | lcuk | but which did you think i had said |
| 15:31.51 | RST38h | moo Arkenoi |
| 15:32.02 | RST38h | Arkenoi: Do not use SELinux =) |
| 15:33.29 | ptl | Maemo 5 SDK 1.2 has just been released |
| 15:33.32 | ptl | http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/c05693a1-265c-4c7f-a389-fc227db4c465/Maemo_5_SDK.html |
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| 15:34.01 | Arkenoi | RST38h, why? SELinux rulez. |
| 15:34.59 | Arif_ | ptl, is it made of win? |
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| 15:36.49 | Arkenoi | ptl: install guide still advises patching the script to make path layout reasonable :-/ |
| 15:37.07 | ptl | Arkenoi: ! |
| 15:37.12 | ptl | ok |
| 15:37.24 | ptl | I just tried it and if 'failed' to upgrade scratchbox |
| 15:38.24 | Arkenoi | actually the script is byte similar to previous version |
| 15:38.34 | petteri | ptl: with apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 15:38.56 | ptl | petteri: is that really enough? I doubt so |
| 15:39.11 | petteri | don't know. I am just wandering how to upgrade |
| 15:39.37 | petteri | maybe I will just try |
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| 15:43.30 | petteri | argh.. dpkg returnder error, while upgrading :/ |
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| 15:45.34 | MohammadAG | 708 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 32 not upgraded. |
| 15:46.04 | DrGrov | Good day to all |
| 15:46.15 | Rabidus | god |
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| 15:46.45 | ptl | good... got it to upgrade using custom! |
| 15:46.48 | ptl | wow |
| 15:46.56 | ptl | 708 new packages on scratchbox repository? |
| 15:47.01 | ptl | damn |
| 15:47.09 | petteri | ok, I got some conflicts while upgrading but with apt-get -f install sorted those and I am running now up-to-date scratchbox |
| 15:47.27 | hrw | sbox... I am planning to upgrade my n900 |
| 15:47.28 | MohammadAG | hmm, apt got upgraded |
| 15:47.41 | MohammadAG | meaning it should be more crippled now |
| 15:47.50 | ptl | I am trying through the install wizard. |
| 15:47.58 | ptl | More crippled? |
| 15:48.01 | ptl | Why do you think that? |
| 15:48.09 | petteri | hmm... the menu is reworked it seems |
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| 15:48.33 | ptl | which menu? |
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| 15:49.09 | DrGrov | hrw: how you mean upgrading your n900? |
| 15:49.10 | petteri | the menu what comes out when you tap on the left corner, where the application icons are |
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| 15:49.25 | ptl | huhh |
| 15:49.33 | ptl | I use catorise on my environment |
| 15:49.41 | Arif_ | you should be able to move around stuff now |
| 15:49.45 | ptl | I'll uninstall it then |
| 15:49.50 | DrGrov | is there a new firmware??? :) |
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| 15:50.01 | nidO | the menu can now be manipulated without using catorise? |
| 15:50.02 | DrGrov | is lost |
| 15:50.02 | nidO | nice |
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| 15:50.20 | Arif_ | DrGrov, no |
| 15:50.24 | nidO | DrGrov the pr1.2 sdk software is available, not the firmware itself for the device yet |
| 15:50.32 | andrewfblack_ | Anyway to get access to root files with gpe file manager? |
| 15:50.37 | noobmonk3y | ooOOOoo new sdk |
| 15:50.37 | DrGrov | Arif_: ah, ok. i was wetting my pants almost :D lol |
| 15:50.55 | Arif_ | everyone knows Nokia discontinued the N900 |
| 15:50.56 | Arif_ | :P |
| 15:50.57 | DrGrov | nidO: can the pr1.2 sdk be run in a linux environment? |
| 15:51.08 | noobmonk3y | Arif_: Not everyone, the trolls get the news 2 weeks later |
| 15:51.23 | Arif_ | thats because they can't read ;( |
| 15:51.29 | noobmonk3y | ahhhhhhhhhh good point |
| 15:52.35 | petteri | DrGrov: it runs only in linux |
| 15:52.47 | DrGrov | petteri: ah, of course. silly me :( |
| 15:52.52 | DrGrov | petteri: i must be lost. |
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| 15:53.12 | Arif_ | petteri,has the media player changed? |
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| 15:53.23 | DrGrov | how is when taking out the qwerty keyboard, anyone got any issues with taking out and hiding the qwerty keyboard? |
| 15:53.42 | DrGrov | petteri: how could i download it for testing? anything particular dependencies needed? |
| 15:54.21 | petteri | DrGrov: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Development_Environment/Maemo_SDK |
| 15:54.31 | petteri | Arif_: it seems the same |
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| 15:54.45 | Arif_ | aw |
| 15:54.50 | DrGrov | petteri: thank you. will download it now. |
| 15:55.04 | Arif_ | I hoped they added a "share" option to the media player too |
| 15:55.05 | Arif_ | ;~; |
| 15:55.13 | noobmonk3y | lol |
| 15:55.24 | DrGrov | petteri: can you check whether there is regular 3g/wlan video call? |
| 15:55.30 | noobmonk3y | Arif_: didn;t they say they would only add share in portrait mode ;) hehe |
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| 15:56.05 | Arif_ | maybe they'll add symbian^3 to the N900! |
| 15:56.26 | noobmonk3y | lol after they winish with getting windows 7 ;) |
| 15:56.29 | noobmonk3y | finish* |
| 15:56.59 | Arif_ | but Win7 has no multitasking |
| 15:57.01 | Arif_ | or copy paste! |
| 15:57.16 | nidO | blinks at his 30 open windows |
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| 15:57.41 | Arif_ | hands nidO an iPheun |
| 15:58.01 | nidO | sweet |
| 15:58.07 | noobmonk3y | passes Arif_ the ifruit basket.... |
| 15:58.15 | ech0dish | sygic works pretty good |
| 15:58.16 | Arif_ | ooo |
| 15:58.19 | Arif_ | crackberries! |
| 15:58.22 | noobmonk3y | lol!! |
| 15:58.33 | noobmonk3y | ooo sygic the one that costs? |
| 15:58.43 | Arif_ | yeah sygic works well |
| 15:58.44 | d14_ | :)) |
| 15:58.53 | ech0dish | one that costs people who abide by copyright laws lol |
| 15:59.02 | d14_ | i want install it today x) |
| 15:59.07 | ech0dish | caugh torrent caugh |
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| 15:59.16 | noobmonk3y | meh happy to pay but wouldnt mind a demo |
| 15:59.22 | Arif_ | coughspleelingcough |
| 15:59.24 | Arif_ | :D |
| 15:59.29 | Arif_ | and warez is bad, m'kay |
| 15:59.37 | Arif_ | you must support the creators :( |
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| 15:59.59 | ech0dish | must support free software |
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| 16:00.10 | ech0dish | down with commercial! |
| 16:00.22 | Arif_ | free software mostly sucks |
| 16:00.23 | Arif_ | ;D |
| 16:00.44 | ech0dish | no it just gets stolen and resold with new shiny buttons |
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| 16:01.28 | noobmonk3y | wants to charge 10p for every healthchceck download... that would be £1,500 by now... darn........ (Ok take of the 14,999 who wouldnt pay lol) |
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| 16:02.00 | ech0dish | i would pay for joikuspot but thats about it, and only cause its 20 bucks lol |
| 16:02.12 | Arif_ | I wouldn't pay 20USD for that |
| 16:02.13 | noobmonk3y | 20? lol sure i paid alot less |
| 16:02.13 | Arif_ | ;P |
| 16:02.26 | ech0dish | 15 euro for n900 version |
| 16:02.29 | SpeedEvil | noobmonk3y: I will pay a pound for healthcheck. |
| 16:02.34 | noobmonk3y | have to admit i actually havnt used it yet, but on holiday soon and will need it! |
| 16:02.37 | noobmonk3y | awwwwwwww |
| 16:02.40 | noobmonk3y | hugs SpeedEvil |
| 16:02.43 | SpeedEvil | noobmonk3y: If it properly reads blood glucose using the IR proximity meter. |
| 16:02.47 | noobmonk3y | yay! |
| 16:03.06 | noobmonk3y | SpeedEvil: when they include a needle and blood reader in a next firmware update, consider it done ;) |
| 16:03.23 | ech0dish | anyone tried running backtrack on the n900 lol? |
| 16:03.37 | Arif_ | I'd pay for KMplayer if it didn't suck |
| 16:03.38 | Arif_ | =D |
| 16:04.07 | noobmonk3y | ech0dish: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=45472&highlight=backtrack |
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| 16:04.23 | noobmonk3y | it does suck a bit... to be fair the standard player has been fine for me |
| 16:05.28 | Arif_ | the built in player is even worse :P |
| 16:05.28 | SpeedEvil | The standard player has a few issues |
| 16:05.28 | noobmonk3y | does it? |
| 16:05.28 | Arif_ | it lacks such features as "repeat" |
| 16:05.29 | noobmonk3y | been fine for me, i download from ip[layer and watch... works fine :D |
| 16:05.29 | noobmonk3y | meh, dont need that so thats prob why i havnt missed it |
| 16:05.35 | Arif_ | and a search button |
| 16:06.08 | nidO | my main issue with the standard player is it's brokenness with upnp |
| 16:06.12 | noobmonk3y | havn't amassed the porn collection as large as Arif_'s yet... so dont need search ;) |
| 16:06.17 | Arif_ | and a share button :P |
| 16:06.24 | Arif_ | and....and..... |
| 16:06.27 | noobmonk3y | Arif_: only in portrait mode, lol..... |
| 16:06.44 | Arif_ | noobmonk3y, I don't have any video material :( |
| 16:06.57 | noobmonk3y | awwww .... the sun still has a customer in you :D |
| 16:06.58 | ech0dish | hahaha this is the sickest shit ever, bt on a n900 rofl.. de auths to all!1! |
| 16:07.03 | FredrIQ | does vncviewer fails or the server? |
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| 16:07.19 | noobmonk3y | wouldnt really call it sick shit.... lemonparty..... now that is........ |
| 16:07.29 | noobmonk3y | FredrIQ: both at times :P |
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| 16:07.46 | Arif_ | noobmonk3y, I do have 3000 songs....and its hard to find something when the search crashes :P |
| 16:07.55 | noobmonk3y | ahhh good point |
| 16:07.58 | FredrIQ | as i without problems can connect through internet (not through 127.0.0.1) at the machine |
| 16:08.05 | Lantizia | Afternoon!... anyone know if I can completely disable the screen going in to power save? (i.e. I want it to only happen if I use the switch on the side of the N900) ? |
| 16:08.22 | FredrIQ | but i'm unable to do it through N900 |
| 16:08.29 | nidO | untick "lock screen automatically" |
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| 16:08.40 | nidO | @ Lantizia |
| 16:08.48 | Lantizia | nidO, I don't see that - which screen? |
| 16:08.49 | FredrIQ | i use tightvnc |
| 16:08.57 | nidO | settings > display |
| 16:09.13 | Lantizia | FredrIQ thats part the reason I want this :) it gets annoying when using X11VNC |
| 16:10.01 | Lantizia | nid0- right so it's the "lock screen automatically" that obverses the "Backlight time-out" value? |
| 16:10.13 | Lantizia | nid0- and the "power saving mode" option has nothing to do with it? |
| 16:10.19 | FredrIQ | and i'm not on a linux machine, so no X = no X11VNC |
| 16:10.51 | Lantizia | FreqrIQ - nah I mean X11VNC on the N900... you can use any vnc viewer |
| 16:10.57 | nidO | I don't really know what the powersaving mode does but the backlight-timeout value just dims the screen after no action, then after a while longer the screen shuts down and locks |
| 16:11.28 | Lantizia | ok thanks |
| 16:11.40 | nidO | if you disable the lock, the screen just dims but is still usable |
| 16:12.06 | Lantizia | maybe the power save disables the dimming ? |
| 16:12.11 | noobmonk3y | there is a backlight app though isnt there? |
| 16:12.16 | noobmonk3y | so you could keep it on indefinitley |
| 16:12.54 | Lantizia | whats freemantle-1.2 ... I noticed it in the repo directory listings |
| 16:13.18 | noobmonk3y | 1.2 of the fremantle sdk? |
| 16:13.56 | Lantizia | think I'll leave that whatever it is lol - anyway I only went digging though there... because Bounce won't install |
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| 16:14.28 | Lantizia | it doesn't show up in the application manger, and if I use apt-get I get ... "E: Handler silently failed" |
| 16:14.39 | Lantizia | was the Bounce demo pulled? |
| 16:15.26 | MohammadAG | Lantizia, use the Ovi Store |
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| 16:15.38 | MohammadAG | Nokia crippled apt, installing using apt-get isn't possible |
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| 16:15.55 | noobmonk3y | awwwwwwww |
| 16:15.58 | Lantizia | MohammadAG, so bounce is only available via that now? not in extras or testing? |
| 16:16.07 | Lantizia | I use apt-get all the time over SSH on the N900 |
| 16:16.23 | MohammadAG | Lantizia, it's only available through the ovi store |
| 16:16.34 | FredrIQ | [17:15:55] <MohammadAG> Nokia crippled apt, installing using apt-get isn't possible |
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| 16:16.49 | FredrIQ | apt-get install (someappname)? |
| 16:17.08 | MohammadAG | FredrIQ, that works, unless that app's in the ovi store repo |
| 16:17.18 | FredrIQ | k |
| 16:17.23 | MohammadAG | same as with Jokispot's repo |
| 16:17.25 | Lantizia | aah... so it's a purposeful restriction? |
| 16:17.35 | RST38h | But if you know where to download Bounce levels from, you can still install it with dpkg, right? |
| 16:17.43 | Lantizia | i.e. Ovi is APT... but the apt-get tool has been modifed to not let you use apt-get with that APT repo? |
| 16:17.45 | FredrIQ | [17:17:51] <RST38h> But if you know where to download Bounce levels from, you can still install it with dpkg, right? |
| 16:17.54 | FredrIQ | more bounce levels? : D |
| 16:18.09 | Lantizia | yeah... what extra bounce leevelS?!??S!? OMG OMG |
| 16:18.13 | MohammadAG | Lantizia, yes |
| 16:18.13 | RST38h | Sorry, not Bounce, Angry Birds |
| 16:18.16 | noobmonk3y | bounce levels?!?!?! |
| 16:18.21 | MohammadAG | first thing, not bounce levels |
| 16:18.26 | FredrIQ | meeh |
| 16:18.26 | RST38h | cackles |
| 16:18.39 | MohammadAG | <Lantizia> aah... so it's a purposeful restrictio |
| 16:18.42 | MohammadAG | yes, and it fails |
| 16:18.54 | FredrIQ | i liked bounce but it has too few levels |
| 16:18.56 | Lantizia | with ... E: Handler silently failed |
| 16:19.05 | Lantizia | FredrIQ, you mean like... 1 |
| 16:19.07 | MohammadAG | ham uses ..../MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache |
| 16:19.16 | FredrIQ | uhm, yes |
| 16:19.22 | MohammadAG | cp'ing the dev from there is easy |
| 16:19.25 | FredrIQ | yay my english |
| 16:19.33 | MohammadAG | therefore piracy can't be solved by crippling apt |
| 16:19.41 | RST38h | Of course it cannot |
| 16:19.43 | MohammadAG | I want the 44-1 apt :( |
| 16:19.55 | MohammadAG | RST38h, Nokia thinks otherwise |
| 16:19.56 | Lantizia | get the .deb for it :) |
| 16:19.57 | FredrIQ | lol |
| 16:20.04 | RST38h | You want a proper repo mechanism to distribute software securely |
| 16:20.12 | RST38h | MohammadAG: I doubt Nokia ever thought about it |
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| 16:20.18 | FredrIQ | why don't just use a special repository and package manager for Ovi? |
| 16:21.08 | RST38h | MohammadAG: I would say, use make web server serve .debs encoded with client's MAC address and send decryption keys separately |
| 16:21.13 | MohammadAG | OH GOD |
| 16:21.24 | MohammadAG | PR1.2 menu sucks! |
| 16:21.28 | MohammadAG | no more more |
| 16:21.37 | MohammadAG | everything's trashed in the main menu |
| 16:21.41 | Lantizia | whats 1.2? the next incarnation? |
| 16:21.45 | MohammadAG | oh wait! |
| 16:21.50 | FredrIQ | is it even released? |
| 16:21.52 | MohammadAG | you can rearrange the menu!!! |
| 16:21.57 | ptl | lol |
| 16:21.59 | ptl | Lantizia: yes |
| 16:22.04 | noobmonk3y | lol! |
| 16:22.04 | ptl | nooo |
| 16:22.04 | RST38h | MohammadAG <-- trolling as we speak |
| 16:22.07 | ptl | it's on scratchbox |
| 16:22.09 | ptl | calm down, guys |
| 16:22.10 | Lantizia | if I swap my repo to fremantle-1.2 will I get it?! :D |
| 16:22.14 | FredrIQ | ah |
| 16:22.14 | MohammadAG | RST38h, :( |
| 16:22.17 | noobmonk3y | Lantizia: no lol |
| 16:22.17 | ptl | PR 1.2 is out for the scratchbox environment ONLY |
| 16:22.23 | ptl | along with the SDK |
| 16:22.29 | MohammadAG | RST38h, I just updated the scratchbox, I'm not trolling :( |
| 16:22.35 | RST38h | Ahhahaha |
| 16:22.36 | MohammadAG | I have screenies :p |
| 16:22.39 | noobmonk3y | Lantizia: if you download the scratchbox, then yes, you will have it on your linux machine :D |
| 16:22.41 | FredrIQ | but that will mean, not long until release |
| 16:22.45 | FredrIQ | .. I think |
| 16:22.46 | RST38h | lcuk DID try to sacrifice me :))) |
| 16:22.48 | ptl | and... in other news... The N900 has been officially announced for my country (Brazil) |
| 16:22.51 | Lantizia | does 1.2 finally fix ogg album art? |
| 16:22.55 | noobmonk3y | already knows he has a bug in his software when run on 1.2 :( |
| 16:22.59 | Lantizia | prays for that |
| 16:23.05 | Lantizia | I need my music to look PRETTY |
| 16:23.18 | RST38h | MohammadAG: Just this morning, lcuk said he is gonna sacrifice me to get PR1.2 and I told him that he shouldn't complain about getting x86 flavor only then |
| 16:23.22 | MohammadAG | should I start a new thread mentioning the changes? |
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| 16:23.31 | MohammadAG | lol |
| 16:23.31 | RST38h | MohammadAG: And GUESS WHAT? =) |
| 16:23.33 | noobmonk3y | lol there is already one out there |
| 16:23.39 | RST38h | strokes his crystal balls |
| 16:23.45 | noobmonk3y | MohammadAG: Troll the forums - someone has listed changes |
| 16:23.49 | ptl | we'll need to create a new channel #maemo-PR1.2 |
| 16:23.53 | ptl | lol |
| 16:23.55 | MohammadAG | Clear device is back! |
| 16:23.58 | noobmonk3y | lols |
| 16:24.20 | noobmonk3y | install healthcheck on it and watch it fail please :( - want a second confirmation lol |
| 16:24.24 | MohammadAG | ok, browser keeps closing :( |
| 16:24.47 | MohammadAG | noobmonk3y, downloading |
| 16:24.51 | noobmonk3y | yay! |
| 16:24.56 | MohammadAG | (cc timeless_mbp ?) |
| 16:25.17 | ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer, who is this "blue_led" person on the forums |
| 16:25.26 | noobmonk3y | no idea |
| 16:25.32 | noobmonk3y | but wasnt aimed at me lol |
| 16:25.33 | ShadowJK | seems to also have concluded bq27200 isn't used.. |
| 16:25.36 | noobmonk3y | anyway ... almost home time ;D |
| 16:25.36 | MohammadAG | noobmonk3y, works for me |
| 16:25.39 | MohammadAG | but the UI fails |
| 16:25.40 | timeless_mbp | ? |
| 16:25.41 | noobmonk3y | Yayyyyyyy |
| 16:25.43 | noobmonk3y | oh |
| 16:25.45 | noobmonk3y | not so yay |
| 16:25.47 | timeless_mbp | is sick |
| 16:25.48 | noobmonk3y | so doesnt work? |
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| 16:26.12 | MohammadAG | sorry to hear timeless_mbp :( |
| 16:26.17 | MohammadAG | get well soon mate |
| 16:26.24 | MohammadAG | noobmonk3y, it's half cut |
| 16:26.28 | MohammadAG | and everything's extra huge |
| 16:26.29 | lcuk | RST38h, your crystal balls were thrown into the fire |
| 16:26.30 | noobmonk3y | :| |
| 16:26.33 | lcuk | you a eunuck now |
| 16:26.34 | noobmonk3y | drunken UI? lol! |
| 16:26.52 | noobmonk3y | waves at lcuk |
| 16:26.54 | timeless_mbp | MohammadAG: yeah, you can rearrange |
| 16:26.57 | lcuk | hiya noobmonk3y |
| 16:26.57 | timeless_mbp | or you can use catorize |
| 16:27.05 | timeless_mbp | it isn't perfect and doesn't mix well w/ rearranging, but |
| 16:27.19 | MohammadAG | timeless_mbp, I'm talking about the web browser crashes |
| 16:27.41 | timeless_mbp | MohammadAG: did you install crash-reporter? |
| 16:27.48 | MohammadAG | maemo-launcher: invoking '/usr/bin/browser.launch' |
| 16:27.48 | MohammadAG | browser[12469]: GLIB WARNING ** GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor - remote volume monitor with dbus name org.gtk.Private.HalVolumeMonitor is not supported |
| 16:27.48 | MohammadAG | maemo-launcher: opening of /usr/bin/browser.launch took 7020 usec |
| 16:28.00 | MohammadAG | and the crash |
| 16:28.08 | timeless_mbp | install crash-reporter |
| 16:28.09 | MohammadAG | browserd[12470]: GLIB DEBUG default - wb-new:0xa194800:eal |
| 16:28.09 | MohammadAG | browserd[12470]: GLIB WARNING ** default - Client disconnected, KILL self |
| 16:28.09 | MohammadAG | maemo-launcher: child (pid=12469) terminated due to exit()=127 |
| 16:28.10 | MohammadAG | ok |
| 16:28.30 | timeless_mbp | but is this sdk or device? |
| 16:28.34 | MohammadAG | SDK |
| 16:28.40 | timeless_mbp | note that it doesn't look like a crash |
| 16:28.49 | timeless_mbp | it looks like a failure to include enough packages in an update |
| 16:29.01 | timeless_mbp | which means you should file a bug against the sdk team |
| 16:29.06 | lcuk | quickly :) |
| 16:29.11 | timeless_mbp | presumably it's reproducible |
| 16:29.23 | timeless_mbp | get someone to confirm, and yeah, as lcuk said, confirm and file quickly |
| 16:29.25 | MohammadAG | vkb was changed? |
| 16:29.28 | timeless_mbp | note that i'm sick, so i'm done for the week |
| 16:29.33 | timeless_mbp | yes vkb was essentially redone |
| 16:29.37 | lcuk | :( timeless_mbp |
| 16:30.01 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: (bluled) no idea. (bq27k) where? pointer please |
| 16:30.03 | petteri | microb works for me with up-to-date scratchbox |
| 16:30.37 | lcuk | it would be good now the repositoriy is coming online to have as many identified confirmed issues as possible in the trackers |
| 16:30.46 | MohammadAG | kept back: tablet-browser-ui |
| 16:30.48 | petteri | MohammadAG: try fakeroot apt-get update && fakeroot apt-get dist-upgrade , so that you see that all packages are updated |
| 16:30.53 | timeless_mbp | anyway, as far as i'm concerned, bugs in the sdk are bugs in the sdk |
| 16:30.55 | ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer, eh I forget, it was a 3-word reply in a silly "waaah my battery only charges to 1200mAh waaah whine whine"-thread |
| 16:30.56 | timeless_mbp | not in the browser |
| 16:31.04 | timeless_mbp | if you do something stupid like pinning a related package |
| 16:31.09 | timeless_mbp | then well, you did something stupid |
| 16:31.14 | MohammadAG | dist-upgrade-ing |
| 16:31.23 | ShadowJK | I only paid attention to it since that blue_led person seems generally knowledgeable and has written detailed posts elsewhere |
| 16:31.33 | lcuk | noobmonk3y, |
| 16:32.01 | ptl | pinning a related package? would Hildon Application Manager respect it? |
| 16:36.11 | ptl | why I have the N900 connected to the wall charger and he still reports discharing? |
| 16:36.14 | ptl | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:36.18 | ptl | *why do |
| 16:36.30 | zap_ | pre-installed-documentation-rx44 is not in repository? I can't upgrade a old N810 with firmware 30 |
| 16:36.30 | ptl | *s/ he still/ it still/ |
| 16:36.38 | luke-jr | ptl: because Nokia doesn't want you to control your battery charger |
| 16:36.39 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: well, yes. but a little captain obvious |
| 16:37.19 | ptl | luke-jr: how could I change my control over my battery charger with or without this information? |
| 16:37.38 | luke-jr | knowledge is power! :p |
| 16:38.16 | ptl | ...and the power reports as discharging. |
| 16:38.30 | DocScrutinizer | ptl: because it *is* discharging |
| 16:38.36 | nidO | did you charge it to full, leave it plugged in, and now check it? |
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| 16:38.48 | DocScrutinizer | ~tell ptl about batteryfaq |
| 16:39.55 | ShadowJK | On N8x0 the battery is discharging throughout 50% of the charge cycle :) |
| 16:40.04 | ShadowJK | in tiny bits |
| 16:41.39 | dmj726_n9001 | rocha: you wrote ocrfeeder, right? |
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| 16:42.57 | MohammadAG | Can someone confirm the file manager is broken in the SDK? |
| 16:43.05 | MohammadAG | (top menu) |
| 16:43.44 | Arif_ | MohammadAG, can you check if they added share to the media player :P |
| 16:44.23 | MohammadAG | Videos only have "Delete" |
| 16:44.33 | MohammadAG | nope |
| 16:44.35 | Arif_ | musiks? |
| 16:44.38 | Arif_ | bah |
| 16:44.43 | Arif_ | ihu nokia.... |
| 16:44.54 | MohammadAG | file manager has share option |
| 16:45.08 | Arif_ | yeah....that's useful |
| 16:45.12 | MohammadAG | Yep, petrovich no longer needed |
| 16:45.20 | DocScrutinizer | fsck share! Hope they added playlist-edit |
| 16:45.21 | Arif_ | thats the same as using petrovich |
| 16:45.25 | Arif_ | scrolling through 3000 files |
| 16:45.25 | Arif_ | :P |
| 16:45.29 | tybollt | MohammadAG: PR 1.2 released? |
| 16:45.34 | MohammadAG | tybollt, SDK updated |
| 16:45.35 | nidO | sdk is |
| 16:45.36 | tybollt | wtf? |
| 16:45.39 | tybollt | oh ok :) |
| 16:45.40 | tybollt | heh |
| 16:45.41 | tybollt | yaya |
| 16:45.52 | MohammadAG | File manager no longer broken, weird |
| 16:46.06 | Arif_ | is there a search in file manager? |
| 16:46.06 | tybollt | btw |
| 16:46.43 | DocScrutinizer | tybollt: wrong syntax |
| 16:46.52 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, no edit from what I can see |
| 16:46.53 | DocScrutinizer | ~wtf sdk |
| 16:47.17 | tybollt | my friends problem w/ the N900 that suddenly "comes alive" although he has used the disable-screen-button on the side... I now know what the problem is... |
| 16:47.27 | tybollt | he's got one of those belt pouches |
| 16:47.33 | tybollt | w/ a magnetic seal |
| 16:47.34 | nidO | magnetic clasp |
| 16:47.35 | nidO | easy |
| 16:47.38 | tybollt | yes |
| 16:47.42 | tybollt | nid++ |
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| 16:48.18 | DocScrutinizer | tybollt: oooh fsck |
| 16:48.29 | tybollt | so my analysis is that the magnet in the belt pouch is trigguering the camera slider mechanism and the device actually thinks the camera door opened and thus activates, is that it? |
| 16:48.31 | Arif_ | how the fuck does the file manager sort files |
| 16:48.34 | DocScrutinizer | seen that here as well :-S |
| 16:48.36 | Arif_ | its just random |
| 16:48.37 | Arif_ | ! |
| 16:48.44 | nidO | luckily its only clasps on the bottom of the phone (when in portrait) that does it - my case is magnetic as well but the clasp is in the middle bottom (while in landscape) so doesnt screw with it |
| 16:48.57 | tybollt | anyway I told him to go get a velcro pouch - problem solved |
| 16:48.59 | nidO | tybollt thats right but its the keyboard slider not camera slider |
| 16:49.14 | tybollt | nid, ah, sorry, of course it is, d'oh :) |
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| 16:50.09 | DocScrutinizer | nidO: no, I guess it's the backlid hotswap reedswitch |
| 16:50.22 | DocScrutinizer | unmounting the uSD |
| 16:51.00 | nbdarvin | hello, are there any gsoc mentors here?) |
| 16:51.09 | DocScrutinizer | at least that one is much closer to the bottom surface than the kbd slide reed |
| 16:51.29 | Arif_ | hmm |
| 16:51.29 | DocScrutinizer | camera is no reed at all |
| 16:51.31 | nidO | it triggers from the top as well / more |
| 16:51.45 | DocScrutinizer | hmm |
| 16:52.04 | nidO | with the magnet in my case, the screen will always light up if the magnet's placed over the screen in bottom right corner (in landscape) but not if its in the same place on the back of the device |
| 16:52.10 | ptl | DocScrutinizer: ok... I got it, it discharges even when plugged. Ok... didn't know that, thanks |
| 16:52.11 | DocScrutinizer | dmesg should make clear what's going on |
| 16:52.21 | DocScrutinizer | ptl: yw |
| 16:52.23 | nidO | yeah sec ill check it |
| 16:52.29 | tybollt | no |
| 16:52.31 | tybollt | iw |
| 16:52.33 | tybollt | !!! |
| 16:53.08 | tybollt | what does the omweather author use as nickname on here? |
| 16:53.12 | tybollt | forget |
| 16:53.23 | nidO | its not the cover switch |
| 16:53.30 | nidO | Nokia-N900-02-8:~# cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc0/cover_switch |
| 16:53.30 | nidO | closed |
| 16:53.38 | nidO | with a magnet lighting the screen |
| 16:54.27 | MohammadAG | timeless_mbp, was scrolling changed? |
| 16:54.46 | MohammadAG | seems snappier on the SDK (could be because of the i5 processor - which is why I'm asking) |
| 16:54.54 | timeless_mbp | um |
| 16:55.01 | timeless_mbp | we upgraded from an out of date gecko to 1.9.2 |
| 16:55.03 | DocScrutinizer | nidO: dmesg -> [31942.153198] slide (GPIO 71) is now open |
| 16:55.05 | timeless_mbp | and did a lot of perf work |
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| 16:55.15 | timeless_mbp | so, it's more like 'i can't think of something that wasn't changed' |
| 16:55.28 | MohammadAG | rendering seems much much quicker! |
| 16:55.31 | petteri | the browser is really much faster on the sb than before |
| 16:56.16 | nidO | yar. thats the keyboard slider switch doing it |
| 16:56.37 | DocScrutinizer | nidO: vs [32023.805236] mmc0: cover is open, card is now inaccessible |
| 16:57.15 | nidO | did you get that from using a magnet? i've just tested a magnet front and back and its the slider thats tripping the screen both ways |
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| 16:58.55 | DocScrutinizer | nidO: I got that from opening back co ver, rsp sliding out kbd |
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| 17:00.29 | andrewfblack_ | anyway to open GPE file Manager or regular file manager with access to root files |
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| 17:00.41 | nidO | afaik not |
| 17:00.50 | DocScrutinizer | well I got a sound signal attached to *all* switch action now, so I'll notice if ever my magnetich pouch will mess with the reeds |
| 17:00.52 | andrewfblack_ | I really don't want to sit here and type out all these commands lol |
| 17:01.19 | Jaffa | andrewfblack_: You know of tab-completion, right? ;-) |
| 17:02.16 | DocScrutinizer | andrewfblack_: filer requester lib is braindamaged - you'll always only get access to MyDocs and SDcard |
| 17:02.52 | DocScrutinizer | andrewfblack_: I suggest you give mc a try |
| 17:04.30 | andrewfblack_ | Jaffa in xterm? |
| 17:04.39 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 17:04.46 | andrewfblack_ | nope didn't know that |
| 17:04.49 | DocScrutinizer | in shell to be precise |
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| 17:05.15 | DocScrutinizer | best feature ever of shell |
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| 17:05.39 | andrewfblack_ | well come to thing about it I remember doing it back in the day but never thought about it because n900 doesn't ahve tab key but I do remember the tab button now |
| 17:05.39 | DocScrutinizer | give two tabs to list alternatives |
| 17:06.13 | DocScrutinizer | also works for cmd names |
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| 17:07.47 | Jaffa | andrewfblack_: Having 'tab' in osso-xterm's button bar is a life saver! |
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| 17:08.33 | DocScrutinizer | and inability to define new qualifier keys there is a royal PITA |
| 17:08.43 | DocScrutinizer | like "Alt" |
| 17:09.02 | andrewfblack_ | Jaffa: well its kinda funny I used to work with Linux in Shell form only for years then I went away from it for about 8 years and then got N810 and got back into linux on it and now on desktops some but I forgot most the shell stuff I used to know |
| 17:09.09 | Jaffa | nods. You can do it via gconf, I believe. |
| 17:09.19 | DocScrutinizer | Jaffa: nope |
| 17:09.25 | MohammadAG | PR1.2 changes, for now, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=577393 |
| 17:09.26 | DocScrutinizer | not afaik |
| 17:09.49 | pupnik | picodrive has a pretty impressive lack of tearing |
| 17:10.26 | Jaffa | DocScrutinizer: http://mg.pov.lt/blog/maemo-flood.html |
| 17:10.28 | MohammadAG | does anyone know of a way to rotate the screen in the SDK? |
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| 17:11.42 | DocScrutinizer | Jaffa: all not qualifier keys |
| 17:12.24 | DocScrutinizer | Jaffa: I know you can create new printing keys, but you can not create things like "shift" "alt" etc |
| 17:12.37 | DocScrutinizer | though there's "ctrl" by default |
| 17:12.57 | DocScrutinizer | which is largely useless as we got that on hw kbd |
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| 17:17.52 | slackmagic | is going to miss his n900 while being shipped off for replacement. |
| 17:18.10 | DocScrutinizer | Jaffa: (can not) at least I failed when I tried on N810 back when |
| 17:18.39 | DocScrutinizer | Jaffa: I doubt there changed a lot |
| 17:19.33 | ptl | uninstalling petrovich and catorise in anticipation of PR 1.2 |
| 17:20.07 | timeless_mbp | ptl: bah |
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| 17:20.10 | timeless_mbp | you can keep them |
| 17:20.15 | timeless_mbp | there's very little harm |
| 17:20.18 | timeless_mbp | they do uninstall safely |
| 17:20.24 | ptl | with petrovich I guess so |
| 17:20.26 | timeless_mbp | and petrovich still works in 1.2 |
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| 17:20.36 | nidO | but has no real benefit |
| 17:20.41 | MiXu- | PR1.2 isn't even coming yet, is it? |
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| 17:20.47 | ptl | but since PR1.2 messes with the menus, I'd rather not risk any incompatibility from catorise. |
| 17:20.57 | timeless_mbp | i've been using it for a while |
| 17:21.00 | DocScrutinizer | nidO: due to braindead file requester |
| 17:21.06 | timeless_mbp | the only break i get is that reordering does something stupid |
| 17:21.06 | ptl | MiXu-: SDK 1.2 went out, and (some?) PR1.2 changes are on it |
| 17:21.25 | timeless_mbp | fwiw, for the task of sending files, i find petrovich easier to use than file manager |
| 17:21.45 | ptl | anyway, i was sort of tired of the B&W look of catorise categories |
| 17:21.50 | DocScrutinizer | thinks of replacing the original file requester .so by a patched version... |
| 17:21.51 | Shapeshifter | Has someone figured out how to make proper filters in gmail? :| this is infant-grade stuff, only takes "To:" but not "CC:" or other fields, and there's no multiple filters, like TO: foo excluding CC: bar etc. |
| 17:21.57 | MiXu- | ptl: Yeah, but that doesn't mean the firmware itself is ready yet :) |
| 17:22.06 | timeless_mbp | Shapeshifter: eh? |
| 17:22.26 | timeless_mbp | you can certainly do complex filters |
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| 17:22.40 | timeless_mbp | Matches: (listid:(opensolaris-code.opensolaris.org) OR list:"website-discuss.opensolaris.org" OR list:"install-discuss.opensolaris.org") |
| 17:22.45 | ptl | MiXu-: I know, I agree, but I am anxious, and I'd get anxious when it is out, so I do not want having to recall to uninstall these 2 apps at that time |
| 17:22.49 | timeless_mbp | Matches: (-{to:(developers@bugzilla.org) to:(rsa@soref.com) to:(josh@soref.us) from:(josh@soref.us) from:(cron daemon) from:(mozilla.dev.planning group <noreply@googlegroups.com>) bugzilla-daemon@mozilla.org bugzilla-daemon@lists.maemo.org from:(extras-cauldron-builds@garage.maemo.org) whatwg subject:(tools-discuss) from:weewar Matches: from:(bugzilla-daemon@defect.opensolaris.org) from:(bugzilla-daemon@lv-defect.opensolaris.org) listid:(x |
| 17:22.55 | Shapeshifter | timeless_mbp: and where do I put that? |
| 17:23.19 | timeless_mbp | 'has the words' |
| 17:23.22 | Shapeshifter | the "Create a filter" mask only has 5 fields. |
| 17:23.27 | Shapeshifter | ah |
| 17:23.30 | Shapeshifter | ookay |
| 17:23.39 | timeless_mbp | that part of the ui isn't the greatest |
| 17:23.43 | timeless_mbp | but it definitely works :) |
| 17:23.49 | Shapeshifter | great, let's see... |
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| 17:23.53 | timeless_mbp | as you can see, i have a fairly long filter :) |
| 17:24.00 | Shapeshifter | yep |
| 17:24.17 | timeless_mbp | that rule is: Do this: Apply label "Personal" |
| 17:24.27 | MiXu- | ptl: I know what you mean. I can't wait myself. :) |
| 17:24.29 | timeless_mbp | basically anything which isn't any of those is \personal\ |
| 17:24.34 | MohammadAG | <ptl> MiXu-: SDK 1.2 went out, and (some?) PR1.2 changes are on it |
| 17:24.37 | MohammadAG | seems like all to me |
| 17:24.55 | MohammadAG | nvm, nokia maps isn't on it |
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| 17:25.56 | Shapeshifter | timeless_mbp: well I'll need to figure out how to write a filter that labels all mail from the maemo-developers list with "maemo-developers" and mark them as read, except those including me in to: |
| 17:26.08 | timeless_mbp | Shapeshifter: trivial |
| 17:26.10 | ptl | MohammadAG: btw, saw your post, thanks for the screenshots |
| 17:26.30 | MohammadAG | np, thanks for mentioning PR1.2 being updated |
| 17:26.33 | MohammadAG | :) |
| 17:26.35 | timeless_mbp | Shapeshifter: start w/ 'filter messages like this' |
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| 17:28.10 | DocScrutinizer | Shapeshifter: how about adding a mini changelog to the "about" of the package? |
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| 17:30.12 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer: I usually add the latest change to the package when building it. doesn't that show up? |
| 17:30.28 | Shapeshifter | timeless_mbp: thanks |
| 17:30.50 | DocScrutinizer | Shapeshifter: seems to me it doesn't, in HAM |
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| 17:32.58 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer: mh. maybe has something to do with py2deb. |
| 17:33.27 | Shapeshifter | I should switch to the new thing Khertan made |
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| 17:34.36 | DocScrutinizer | you could edit the generic "about" containing the verbose pgk description |
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| 17:36.09 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer: mh. it's not even visible in apt-cache show alarmed |
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| 17:37.01 | DocScrutinizer | for sure we can wait until meego87 til appmanager will show a separate changelog |
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| 17:37.26 | MohammadAG | is thinking of something crazy |
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| 17:37.36 | MohammadAG | adding the SDK repo and updating the N900 |
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| 17:37.46 | crs | Hi there all. Have had n900 connected to charger overnight, I did nothing and in the morning I have realized that all my conversations are gone. They were there yesterday. Did such a thing happen to anyone else? |
| 17:37.50 | DocScrutinizer | muhaha |
| 17:38.12 | MohammadAG | crs, usually a restart helps, if you haven't done that |
| 17:38.16 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, go/no? |
| 17:38.41 | crs | MohammadAG: Ok, will try now. |
| 17:38.45 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: well, install qemu to execute the x86 ELFs |
| 17:39.05 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, why's that? |
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| 17:39.11 | MohammadAG | there are ARMEL updates |
| 17:39.13 | MohammadAG | I think |
| 17:39.21 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: I have no clue about SDK |
| 17:39.36 | MohammadAG | most probably asking for a brick |
| 17:39.42 | MohammadAG | but what the heck, I'm bored |
| 17:40.03 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
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| 17:40.25 | DocScrutinizer | gooo, MohammadAG GOOOOO! :-D |
| 17:41.24 | DocScrutinizer | thenmake a youtube vid from that - eternal fame :-P |
| 17:42.05 | MohammadAG | lol, I don't care about fame and stuff |
| 17:42.22 | crs | MohammadAG: Yep, got them back. Thanks a lot. |
| 17:42.22 | MohammadAG | or credit etc... |
| 17:42.37 | MohammadAG | np, reboots solve a lot of problems crs |
| 17:42.48 | MohammadAG | (and sometimes create more, but that's rare) |
| 17:43.31 | crs | MohammadAG: That was the idea on my previous win based htc. Why I wanted n900 was because i hate restarts. :P |
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| 17:44.20 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, what'd ya know |
| 17:44.21 | MohammadAG | 434 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 43 not upgraded. |
| 17:44.26 | MohammadAG | I'm worried about the 43 |
| 17:44.31 | DocScrutinizer | takes bets on whether boot will free up sufficient storage in /, or will brick the device XP |
| 17:45.03 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, this isn't important is it The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 17:45.04 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:45.12 | MohammadAG | laughs devilishly |
| 17:45.23 | DocScrutinizer | MUHAHA |
| 17:45.36 | MohammadAG | Installing |
| 17:45.39 | GAN900 | now wants to make an Insteon/Indigo application for Maemo. |
| 17:45.54 | MohammadAG | looks 5 minutes into the future |
| 17:46.06 | MohammadAG | (MohammadAG: bah, didn't work, reflashing) |
| 17:46.22 | DocScrutinizer | cackles |
| 17:46.28 | GAN900 | DocScrutinizer, minus the non-hardened security nature of Insteon it's really quite nice. |
| 17:46.31 | Shapeshifter | w00t, teeworlds! |
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| 17:51.32 | Shapeshifter | oh and it runs well |
| 17:51.42 | Shapeshifter | 1st good native game. a bit hard to control though |
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| 17:57.21 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, unpacking |
| 17:57.37 | petteri | MohammadAG: you are upgrading n900? |
| 17:57.41 | MohammadAG | (as in Preparing to replace and unpacking) |
| 17:57.46 | MohammadAG | petteri, indirectly, yes |
| 17:57.51 | MohammadAG | seems to be working for now |
| 17:57.51 | javispedro | nooooooooooo the bugtracker link parser is failing me again |
| 17:58.00 | javispedro | uses the dark side of the force to choke the packages interface |
| 17:58.04 | andrewfblack_ | wonders if works Slide to Unlock on Lockscreen can be changed or removed |
| 17:58.09 | MohammadAG | "for now" underlined twice |
| 17:58.19 | petteri | MohammadAG: cool :) |
| 17:58.21 | MohammadAG | Andrewfblack, there's an app for that |
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| 17:58.56 | andrewfblack_ | andrewfblack_: lol would be nice if their was my new theme doens't slide its tap/press to unlock |
| 17:59.10 | DocScrutinizer | bets 10 bucks on epic fail ;-P |
| 17:59.17 | hrw | upgrading n900 to sdk packages |
| 18:01.51 | DocScrutinizer | andrewfblack_: sorry, I fail to get your posts parsed |
| 18:02.15 | andrewfblack_ | DocScrutinizer: ? |
| 18:02.31 | hrw | Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 18:02.31 | hrw | rootfs 227.4M 222.4M 888.0k 100% / |
| 18:02.32 | hrw | crap |
| 18:02.48 | DocScrutinizer | pfft |
| 18:03.17 | DocScrutinizer | I guess that's exactly what we'll see on real pr1.2 update too |
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| 18:04.05 | hrw | DocScrutinizer: nope - nokia will just say 'one more week' and do release in november |
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| 18:04.10 | DocScrutinizer | or maybe, just maybe... nah, I should stop daydreaming |
| 18:04.12 | dmj726_n900 | jrocha? I'm interested in using some of the tech from ocrfeeder in maemo. |
| 18:05.09 | MohammadAG | hrw, haha, 62% free! |
| 18:05.17 | jrocha | dmj726_n900, hi |
| 18:05.23 | jrocha | dmj726_n900, what do you mean? |
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| 18:05.47 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: haha, mp-fremantle-generic-pr removed successfully |
| 18:06.07 | hrw | MohammadAG: what you moved? |
| 18:06.16 | MohammadAG | hrw, most of /usr/share |
| 18:06.19 | hrw | ah |
| 18:06.25 | dmj726_n900 | what does ocrfeeder do to determine text vs image? |
| 18:06.32 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, not really, it's a meta package afaik |
| 18:06.45 | MohammadAG | and last time I tested, the device reboots if it's removed |
| 18:06.49 | MohammadAG | still waiting for my brick |
| 18:07.25 | DocScrutinizer | ~nuke optification |
| 18:07.26 | infobot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at optification ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 18:07.41 | DocScrutinizer | fix your fsckng partitoning, Nokia!!! |
| 18:07.45 | hrw | I see that lot of apps will require rebuilding |
| 18:07.53 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, agreed |
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| 18:08.36 | hrw | you should curse TI and memory/nand chip vendors |
| 18:08.50 | DocScrutinizer | duh, why? |
| 18:09.04 | MohammadAG | hrw, nokia could've used two chips |
| 18:09.05 | C-S-B | how well are people finding the GPS without network assistance? |
| 18:09.06 | MohammadAG | or three |
| 18:09.08 | dmj726_n900 | jrocha: I'm planning to make an accessiblity app to read the text from images taken with the camera but i need it to know the difference between the text and anything else on the page. |
| 18:09.08 | MohammadAG | or four |
| 18:09.14 | MohammadAG | one for each directory |
| 18:09.15 | C-S-B | I know theres a bug report |
| 18:09.19 | MohammadAG | /usr on a chip |
| 18:09.23 | MohammadAG | /var on a chip |
| 18:09.26 | cityLights2 | DocScrutinizer: hi |
| 18:09.28 | hrw | MohammadAG: omap3 uses pop-on-module chip for memory+nand |
| 18:09.31 | cityLights2 | hi hrw |
| 18:09.34 | MohammadAG | /etc on a chip (ok that's more than needed) |
| 18:09.36 | C-S-B | Just wondering how well its working |
| 18:09.36 | hrw | hi cityLights2 |
| 18:09.47 | MohammadAG | hrw, I doubt they can't add extra ones |
| 18:09.49 | jrocha | dmj726_n900, I see |
| 18:09.53 | DocScrutinizer | C-S-B: GPS without assistance is borked for now |
| 18:09.59 | cityLights2 | say after I run openvpn and establish a connection I get tap0 |
| 18:10.02 | jrocha | dmj726_n900, that's kinda what OCRFeeder does |
| 18:10.02 | MohammadAG | I know the 256MB one will be there in all cases |
| 18:10.03 | C-S-B | DocScrutinizer completely? |
| 18:10.04 | hrw | MohammadAG: if they guy other ver of omap3 then they can |
| 18:10.16 | C-S-B | DocScrutinizer is it at the HW level or software? |
| 18:10.17 | DocScrutinizer | C-S-B: 75% |
| 18:10.18 | jrocha | dmj726_n900, I need to run now but we can talk about it later |
| 18:10.18 | cityLights2 | I then run udhcpc to get an IP - but it doesnt work |
| 18:10.20 | hrw | MohammadAG: they could also use faster nand chip for emmc |
| 18:10.20 | MohammadAG | buy*? |
| 18:10.22 | jrocha | dmj726_n900, cheers |
| 18:10.29 | DocScrutinizer | C-S-B: probably sw |
| 18:10.34 | cityLights2 | oopus must go now, pls answer here |
| 18:10.35 | MohammadAG | cityLights2, ifconfig |
| 18:10.51 | javispedro | GPS without assitance borked? |
| 18:10.54 | javispedro | it works |
| 18:10.56 | C-S-B | DocScrutinizer so once fixed, I actually can expect to get non assisted gs |
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| 18:11.03 | cityLights2 | right - I need to issue ifconfig in the script before udhcpc |
| 18:11.08 | C-S-B | Would like to replace tomtom |
| 18:11.21 | cityLights2 | ok |
| 18:11.22 | javispedro | C-S-B: you're not going to replace tomtom because of missing mapping software, but gps works. |
| 18:11.27 | cityLights2 | brb (going to buy onion for soup) |
| 18:11.40 | hrw | C-S-B: forget it |
| 18:11.43 | MohammadAG | C-S-B, works for me |
| 18:11.58 | C-S-B | javispedro, sygic? |
| 18:12.03 | DocScrutinizer | C-S-B: you get GPS w/o assistance even now, given you had a fix (with A) last 2h, and/or you got 15min time for dl the data from sats |
| 18:12.33 | dmj726_n900 | not thinking a straight ocrfeeder app since it has to be used by blind folks |
| 18:12.33 | dmj726_n900 | ok...ping me when you are back jrocha |
| 18:12.34 | MohammadAG | why couldn't they put the sats nearer |
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| 18:12.44 | MohammadAG | like, 10 metres above the ground |
| 18:12.46 | MohammadAG | :P |
| 18:12.53 | DocScrutinizer | C-S-B: also all this rant based on tests I did prior to last major fw update |
| 18:12.54 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer: make it 5 minutes on clear sky and I'll agree. |
| 18:13.09 | hrw | C-S-B: if you have tomtom for a car then stay with it |
| 18:13.24 | C-S-B | hrw, its a cradle/pda/gps combo |
| 18:13.47 | C-S-B | and I'll be damned if I can find the pda |
| 18:13.52 | hrw | C-S-B: you do not use tomtom pna? |
| 18:14.35 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, seem to have gotten PR1.1.1.1 |
| 18:14.45 | DocScrutinizer | LOL |
| 18:14.53 | DocScrutinizer | 1111!!!111!!11 |
| 18:14.55 | apoirier | C-S-B: working fine here, by using 'Location Test' before to launch OVI map |
| 18:14.59 | hrw | brb |
| 18:15.06 | C-S-B | location test? |
| 18:15.07 | Arif_ | PR1.1.1.1.1.1? |
| 18:15.08 | Arif_ | :O |
| 18:15.09 | Shapeshifter | can someone recommend an alternative image viewer for the n900? |
| 18:15.20 | Arif_ | gimp? :P |
| 18:15.37 | MohammadAG | if you don't mind waiting 3 mins to see a pic |
| 18:15.38 | Shapeshifter | nah, more like gpicview |
| 18:15.45 | Shapeshifter | I see it's not packaged |
| 18:15.57 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: will there be *any* noticable changes? |
| 18:16.16 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, on the N900? yeah, keyboard looks crippled |
| 18:16.25 | DocScrutinizer | cooooool |
| 18:16.33 | C-S-B | mmm...so Ill assume the non-assisted gps issue isnt going to be fixed yet? |
| 18:16.37 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, and it WILL brick on the next reboot |
| 18:16.46 | DocScrutinizer | I bet |
| 18:16.49 | MohammadAG | that should make you charge it |
| 18:17.10 | MohammadAG | as whenever it dings, Nokia takes a soul |
| 18:17.14 | Arif_ | whats wrong with the built in picture viewer anyway |
| 18:17.23 | MohammadAG | and when it bricks, it'll be the apocalypse |
| 18:17.35 | apoirier | C-S-B: get the "location-test-gui" app |
| 18:17.39 | MohammadAG | someone hit me with a brick |
| 18:17.54 | Arif_ | ~brick MohammadAG |
| 18:17.55 | infobot | ACTION installs a bad bootloader on MohammadAG and turns MohammadAG into a brick |
| 18:18.12 | Arif_ | ...I was expecting something else... |
| 18:18.15 | MohammadAG | not that kind of brick |
| 18:18.34 | Arif_ | grabs part of his neighbour's house and smacks MohammadAG around with it |
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| 18:18.46 | MohammadAG | thanks, should make me wake up |
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| 18:18.54 | Arif_ | nope, no mushrooms or flowers in there |
| 18:18.56 | Arif_ | ={ |
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| 18:19.03 | ptl | what verbs does infobot have? |
| 18:19.11 | ptl | ~reboot |
| 18:19.12 | infobot | Not on your life cowboy :(, or are you using Window$? |
| 18:19.18 | C-S-B | apoirier, just debug info is it? |
| 18:19.22 | ptl | ~flash |
| 18:19.22 | infobot | well, flash is the same as ~flashing |
| 18:19.27 | ptl | ~flashing |
| 18:19.28 | infobot | flashing is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 18:19.37 | Arif_ | ~meow |
| 18:19.38 | infobot | jbot: woem |
| 18:19.42 | Arif_ | :D |
| 18:19.43 | DocScrutinizer | ptl: /query infobot, üplEEAAASE |
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| 18:20.36 | apoirier | C-S-B: this app searchs satellites as long as you don't stop it. So use it to get your location and only after that, launch OVI map |
| 18:21.17 | DocScrutinizer | ptl: btw it's called factoids, and there are some 100k of them |
| 18:21.32 | C-S-B | apoirier, offline? |
| 18:22.01 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, still unpacking :( |
| 18:22.06 | MohammadAG | expected a 5 min install |
| 18:22.17 | DocScrutinizer | ptl: ...and currently reference 116910 factoids. I'm using about 21732 kB of memory |
| 18:23.00 | MohammadAG | C'MON, brick already |
| 18:23.09 | apoirier | C-S-B: yes, working fine (I don't have any activated phone sim card at all) |
| 18:23.24 | pupnik | any gtk gurus working on gqview? |
| 18:23.49 | MohammadAG | noticed something in the SDK |
| 18:23.58 | MohammadAG | it no longer inverts colours |
| 18:23.59 | C-S-B | apoirier, so what is this doing that the phone should? |
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| 18:25.18 | apoirier | C-S-B: the problem is the OVI map app doesn't wait enough to get the satellites. There is a opened bug in the tracker. |
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| 18:25.52 | C-S-B | im not using ovi map, I'm using sygic now. |
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| 18:27.32 | apoirier | ok. I don't know about sygic |
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| 18:28.05 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, can you check sth for me? |
| 18:28.15 | DocScrutinizer | ther's a simple workaround though: just start GPS by another app, like e.g. gpsjinni |
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| 18:28.23 | mortal__1 | how do I search radio channels in n800? |
| 18:28.26 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: not sure |
| 18:28.29 | DocScrutinizer | shoot |
| 18:28.42 | MohammadAG | Settings > tap title bar |
| 18:28.49 | MohammadAG | what does it say on the second button |
| 18:29.03 | MohammadAG | I'm sure it wasn't the same in PR1.1.1 |
| 18:29.13 | DocScrutinizer | enter code for sim unlocking |
| 18:29.19 | MohammadAG | "Enter code to remove operator lock" |
| 18:29.23 | MohammadAG | ah so it was changed |
| 18:29.30 | MohammadAG | I notice the smallest things :P |
| 18:29.42 | DocScrutinizer | well I translated it from german |
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| 18:29.56 | DocScrutinizer | your L18N may vary |
| 18:29.58 | MohammadAG | it was something along the lines I think |
| 18:30.24 | namus | how do i add new radio channels in N900 |
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| 18:30.48 | DocScrutinizer | namus: "add station" ? |
| 18:32.06 | MohammadAG | ~curse slow unpacking |
| 18:32.06 | infobot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, slow unpacking ! |
| 18:32.08 | DocScrutinizer | namus: (in menu) |
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| 18:32.25 | namus | got it |
| 18:32.30 | namus | tahnks |
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| 18:33.40 | javispedro | ah, you gotta love the PR1.2 SDK tmo thread |
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| 18:34.44 | Jaffa | javispedro: day off from tmo. Bliss ;) |
| 18:35.08 | javispedro | but you miss all the fun! |
| 18:35.15 | Jaffa | Of course, that's because I'm a forum-hating surrender monkey |
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| 18:35.26 | javispedro | I specially love the post about "someone's meego trial version running out" |
| 18:35.36 | Jaffa | Oh good grief. |
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| 18:37.01 | javispedro | "root memory" |
| 18:37.08 | javispedro | sounds good. |
| 18:37.12 | javispedro | I am going to patent it |
| 18:37.25 | MohammadAG | :/ Does PR1.2 make better use of root memory? |
| 18:37.29 | MohammadAG | LOL |
| 18:37.34 | Jaffa | javispedro: I might drop out and let you deal with the lot of 'em. |
| 18:37.37 | MohammadAG | didn't look before pasting |
| 18:37.41 | Jaffa | Muwhahahahaha |
| 18:37.51 | Arif_ | MohammadAG, you'll have 4GB root! |
| 18:38.05 | MohammadAG | I'd rather have 4 spears in me atm |
| 18:38.08 | MohammadAG | :p |
| 18:38.17 | Arif_ | that can be arranged |
| 18:38.31 | MohammadAG | Arif_, oh please, nothing from you |
| 18:38.41 | Arif_ | aww |
| 18:38.44 | javispedro | Jaffa: ah, as you can see, I'm from the "requiring-another-registration-also-servers-as-noise-filter"camp :D |
| 18:39.11 | MohammadAG | javispedro, I showed some changes, and posted that if I could find any more I'll post them, now they're asking for stuff that's was confirmed (as not coming) and stuff that needs PR1.2 on the N900! |
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| 18:39.22 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, PR1.1.1.5 |
| 18:39.26 | javispedro | MohammadAG: YOU SHOWED THEM CHANGES!! |
| 18:39.53 | javispedro | now they're going to ask you for more until they dry the last drop of blood from you |
| 18:40.06 | Jaffa | And expect you to code them. |
| 18:40.06 | MohammadAG | is turning pale |
| 18:40.21 | Arif_ | MohammadAG, does PR1.2 run andoird apps? |
| 18:40.26 | Arif_ | :D |
| 18:40.27 | javispedro | iphone apps? |
| 18:40.42 | VDVsx | lol |
| 18:40.44 | MohammadAG | makes a script that has rm -rf /<insert wildcard> and publishes it |
| 18:40.47 | Jaffa | javispedro: Evil! You're trying to keep the prolateriate unde the thumb of The Man. |
| 18:40.52 | VDVsx | Win 7 FTW |
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| 18:40.57 | MohammadAG | javispedro, yeah, you can fart all you want |
| 18:41.02 | MohammadAG | got mIRC working |
| 18:41.11 | Jaffa | Ooooh, PR1.2 can run Windows 7 apps? |
| 18:41.11 | javispedro | /fart? |
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| 18:41.15 | Arif_ | VDVsx, Windows 7 port for N900 in PR1.2! |
| 18:41.27 | javispedro | Windows 7 to run Maemo 5 apps! |
| 18:41.55 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, SETTING UP!!! |
| 18:42.04 | Jaffa | Actually, because MeeGo will run on x86, does that mean I'll be able to run Windows 7 apps on my N900 when it gets the developer build of MeeGo later this month? |
| 18:42.12 | MohammadAG | LOL |
| 18:42.17 | Jaffa | I should *so* kick off that rumour. |
| 18:42.18 | javispedro | yes. |
| 18:42.26 | Arif_ | rofl |
| 18:42.37 | Arif_ | will N900 run Crysis? |
| 18:42.45 | MohammadAG | Jaffa, 574 users online, take out the bots, one of them will post it somewhere |
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| 18:42.55 | MohammadAG | Arif_, no, but it WILL blend! |
| 18:42.55 | javispedro | is always impressed at the "more recent sw X version => more speed" common belief |
| 18:43.03 | Arif_ | \o/ |
| 18:43.10 | MohammadAG | points to the oldversion.com slogan |
| 18:43.31 | Arif_ | javispedro, everyone knows how fast Vista is compared to XP! |
| 18:43.42 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: Oooh, twitter'd be good for that. |
| 18:43.54 | Arif_ | should I tweet it? |
| 18:43.56 | Arif_ | :D |
| 18:44.03 | MohammadAG | LOL |
| 18:44.11 | Jaffa | Arif_: Yeah, and I'll RT ;) |
| 18:44.14 | GAN900 | Jaffa, nuhuh, you are NOT dropping out. |
| 18:44.21 | MohammadAG | Jaffa, you on twitter? |
| 18:44.22 | Arif_ | or open a facebook group |
| 18:44.30 | MohammadAG | Arif_, oh god |
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| 18:44.38 | Jaffa | GAN900: Yuhuh. You watch me dude :p |
| 18:44.43 | MohammadAG | onfiguration file `/etc/mce/mce.ini' |
| 18:44.44 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.44 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.49 | javispedro | makes DrNokWin7 |
| 18:44.49 | MohammadAG | SO IT WILL SHOOT LASERS!!! |
| 18:44.50 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: http://twitter.com/jaffa2 |
| 18:45.02 | GAN900 | Jaffa, my threat to Texrat can be redirected your direction. :P |
| 18:45.08 | Jaffa | GAN900: Or maybe I won't then |
| 18:45.23 | MohammadAG | Jaffa, followed :) |
| 18:45.42 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: ta :) |
| 18:45.46 | MohammadAG | Setting up location-daemon (0.98-1+0m5) ... |
| 18:45.50 | Arif_ | javispedro, it must have zeemote support! |
| 18:45.50 | MohammadAG | wonder why that was updated |
| 18:46.13 | javispedro | MohammadAG: Changelog: "bumped version number" ;) |
| 18:46.18 | MohammadAG | how do i overclock the N900 to 5.00GHz? |
| 18:46.18 | javispedro | (joking) |
| 18:46.25 | MohammadAG | :p |
| 18:46.47 | Arif_ | set CPUCl0kz0r=600 to 5000 :P |
| 18:46.50 | Jaffa | More serious question: anyone have any ideas for getting random student laptops up & running for Maemo dev for a hack day? VM is most obvious, installed on a bunch of USB sticks |
| 18:46.55 | MohammadAG | I already have some -273C cooling substances |
| 18:46.58 | MohammadAG | shame physics doesn't allow more |
| 18:47.08 | Jaffa | Damn physics. |
| 18:47.22 | Arif_ | Jaffa, a loonix live cd with the rest on USB? |
| 18:47.24 | MohammadAG | Arif_, now that's what I call 1337 4ax0ring |
| 18:47.48 | MohammadAG | Arif_, you do realize the SDK is large |
| 18:47.48 | Arif_ | indeed! |
| 18:47.58 | Arif_ | USB sticks are 16GB |
| 18:48.05 | Arif_ | I'm not expecting it to be that large..... |
| 18:48.12 | javispedro | The whole Fremantle SDK is around 3 - 4 GiB iirc |
| 18:48.18 | javispedro | (debug symbols and the lot) |
| 18:48.18 | MohammadAG | and how do you propose he installs the casper-rw file? |
| 18:48.30 | Arif_ | no idea |
| 18:48.33 | Arif_ | whats that? :P |
| 18:48.50 | DocScrutinizer | Casper Red White ?? o.O |
| 18:48.51 | SpeedEvil | http://terreptik.soup.io/post/44492295/Bild :) |
| 18:49.10 | javispedro | winner of the day. |
| 18:49.20 | Jaffa | 'll have to investigate this evening and post for UK-based Maemo peeps to be involved if they want. |
| 18:49.21 | Arif_ | if it was Wind00z you could just make a ghost image |
| 18:49.30 | andrewfblack_ | Why does N900 require a net connetion to access 127.0.0.01? |
| 18:49.40 | ShadowJK | the browser does |
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| 18:49.52 | Arif_ | because its retarded? :D |
| 18:49.52 | javispedro | there's a tmo bug about that |
| 18:50.02 | andrewfblack_ | ShadowJK: thats what I'm asking why does browser require it |
| 18:50.06 | MohammadAG | 486,380 items, totalling 4.9 GB |
| 18:50.10 | javispedro | iirc the browser-ui was patched not to require connection for localhost or file:// urls |
| 18:50.16 | javispedro | but maybe not 127.0.0.1 |
| 18:50.17 | ShadowJK | firefox sometimes does that too on linux distros with NotworkManager :) |
| 18:50.50 | Arif_ | MohammadAG, 8GB sticks are like 5 euro :D |
| 18:51.05 | MohammadAG | Arif_, it's not the stick that's important, it's the filesystem it uses! |
| 18:51.11 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: Ta |
| 18:51.27 | andrewfblack_ | file:// seems to work file just not localhost |
| 18:51.28 | MohammadAG | if he uses the normal live CD installs to USB, it won't work on a FAT32 stick |
| 18:51.29 | Jaffa | Arif_: Yeah, but someone'll have to pay for 'em :p |
| 18:51.40 | Arif_ | you could use microSDs too |
| 18:51.49 | Arif_ | most people should have a 8+GB one :D |
| 18:51.51 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: Reformat the stick for booting |
| 18:51.51 | MohammadAG | *Facepalm* |
| 18:52.51 | MohammadAG | Jaffa, ext3 should work |
| 18:53.00 | MohammadAG | but I doubt the automated installs allow that |
| 18:53.23 | Arif_ | MohammadAG, your 1.2 thread killed the site |
| 18:53.28 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: Hmm, will have a look |
| 18:53.32 | MohammadAG | Arif_, happy to help |
| 18:53.40 | MohammadAG | the site really needed killing |
| 18:53.41 | Arif_ | :D |
| 18:53.47 | MohammadAG | someone should... |
| 18:53.53 | MohammadAG | ~nuke TMO database |
| 18:53.54 | infobot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at TMO database ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 18:54.12 | ShadowJK | fedora has a tool to convert livecd into usb boot key, with an overlay of choosable size for r/w ext3 storage.. on fat32 |
| 18:54.16 | ShadowJK | aufs or similar |
| 18:54.40 | MohammadAG | same as ubuntu |
| 18:54.55 | MohammadAG | which is why I said "automated" :) |
| 18:55.05 | MohammadAG | I wanted to do it on my 8GB stick |
| 18:55.45 | javispedro | opens 100 "disappointment with N900" threads |
| 18:55.58 | Arif_ | replies to all of them with agreement |
| 18:56.19 | SpeedEvil | I am dissapointed - my n900 cannot fly itself to me when I lose it. |
| 18:56.21 | Arif_ | adds "LOL BUY EYEPHONE THEN" to all posts |
| 18:56.45 | javispedro | thread #59: The N900 sucks because Nokia didn't give me a free girlfriend with it. Arif_: LOL BUY EYEPHONE THEN. |
| 18:56.55 | SpeedEvil | Damn, that would be cool. |
| 18:56.56 | SpeedEvil | http://www.rotarywoofer.com/ |
| 18:57.03 | SpeedEvil | Four tiny models of that. |
| 18:57.08 | SpeedEvil | In the corners. |
| 18:57.09 | Arif_ | javispedro, iPhone has a girlfriend app |
| 18:57.35 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, guess what didn't get upgraded |
| 18:57.36 | ShadowJK | Arif_, is that a straight copy of some creepy app originating from jp? |
| 18:57.37 | Arif_ | you need to invest $1000 in it every month |
| 18:57.44 | Arif_ | or it'll start screeching non stop |
| 18:57.53 | DocScrutinizer | you tell me |
| 18:57.58 | MohammadAG | the binaries x.x |
| 18:57.59 | RST38h | javispedro moo |
| 18:58.01 | MohammadAG | http://pastebin.com/Jq8bnrvg |
| 18:58.07 | DocScrutinizer | yo |
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| 18:58.10 | javispedro | afternoon RST38h |
| 18:58.17 | Arif_ | ShadowJK, probably |
| 18:58.33 | lcuk | the way to stop hearing your girlfriend app is to simply return to iphone to the kitchen and retire to the den |
| 18:58.42 | Shapeshifter | oh for crying out loud, what is this >.> no google talk for linux |
| 18:58.51 | Shapeshifter | are we living in the middle ages, google? |
| 18:59.02 | MohammadAG | autoremoving MUHAHAHAHA |
| 18:59.03 | ShadowJK | btw, N900 doesn't need anti-molester apps. Just put your N900 in your panties, when the molester starts he'll think you're a dragqueen and go molest someone else |
| 18:59.05 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: all the closed source pkgs |
| 18:59.19 | RST38h | OMG THEY FIXED THE KEYBOARD |
| 18:59.26 | Arif_ | OMG THEY DID? |
| 18:59.31 | Arif_ | the guestures are back? |
| 18:59.39 | derf | As in, they neutered it? |
| 18:59.40 | MohammadAG | No |
| 18:59.46 | MohammadAG | lol |
| 18:59.49 | thresh | ÑÑпб 1Ñ2 ÑÑ Ñге, |
| 18:59.50 | Arif_ | :| |
| 18:59.51 | javispedro | it is now completely exact to the iphone one? |
| 18:59.51 | thresh | oh well |
| 19:00.11 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, they can be restored right? |
| 19:00.12 | Arif_ | he said fixed |
| 19:00.14 | Arif_ | not fucked up |
| 19:00.26 | MohammadAG | Arif_, he used Nokia's term for f***ed up |
| 19:00.28 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: no idea |
| 19:00.39 | MohammadAG | bummer |
| 19:00.40 | MohammadAG | oh well |
| 19:00.49 | Arif_ | nokia's term for fucked up is target manhattan |
| 19:00.54 | Arif_ | :P |
| 19:01.02 | MohammadAG | nah, they use the word FIXED |
| 19:01.04 | MohammadAG | or IMPROVED |
| 19:01.13 | javispedro | makes you wonder why tmoers still wait for the update if the only they know for sure that comes with it (because they saw a photo of it!) sucked! |
| 19:01.13 | Arif_ | I usually see WONTFIX |
| 19:01.33 | hrw | so do I |
| 19:01.47 | Arif_ | coincidence? :P |
| 19:02.40 | MohammadAG | yeah, both of you have eyes |
| 19:02.49 | MohammadAG | Site's slow as **** |
| 19:02.56 | MohammadAG | I guess I did kill it |
| 19:02.56 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: my guess is they won't play nicely with 1.2 |
| 19:03.33 | MohammadAG | lol http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ytorvCxRjxo/STmcSqHSCFI/AAAAAAAAAKU/V7XrK5U3yk0/n900.png |
| 19:03.35 | Arif_ | stop spreading rumors! |
| 19:03.42 | DocScrutinizer | puts the 10 bucks back into the wallet |
| 19:03.52 | javispedro | omg the pr 1.3 update in app mgr! |
| 19:04.02 | Arif_ | z0mg |
| 19:04.07 | Arif_ | does it have silverlight? |
| 19:04.22 | javispedro | it says it comes with free n930 |
| 19:04.41 | Arif_ | it says it needs 500MB rootfs! |
| 19:04.44 | javispedro | they also fix the small rootfs issue |
| 19:04.49 | MohammadAG | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have |
| 19:04.49 | MohammadAG | requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable |
| 19:04.49 | MohammadAG | distribution that some required packages have not yet been created |
| 19:04.49 | MohammadAG | or been moved out of Incoming. |
| 19:04.50 | MohammadAG | I knew it |
| 19:04.58 | javispedro | ... by silently replacing the kernel with FreeDOS. Qt works on everything! |
| 19:05.07 | MohammadAG | LOL |
| 19:05.20 | Arif_ | New Qt 4.9 works on DOS! |
| 19:05.26 | Arif_ | with 16 color sweetness |
| 19:05.41 | Arif_ | it needs a PC speaker emulator though :( |
| 19:06.06 | lcuk | dont worry, bill gates will personally call you up everytime it needs to make a sound. i just got off the phone to him myself |
| 19:06.07 | VDVsx | lololol |
| 19:06.09 | lcuk | he said "beep" |
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| 19:06.34 | Arif_ | heh |
| 19:06.41 | Arif_ | bill gates narrating commander keen \o/ |
| 19:06.43 | javispedro | hehe |
| 19:07.20 | VDVsx | Arif_, ask at #Qt if it runs on DOS :D :D ihihih |
| 19:07.29 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, REFLASH :p |
| 19:07.30 | Arif_ | /server -m..... |
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| 19:07.42 | javispedro | ponders if he really chose a good day to promote drnoksnes to -testing |
| 19:07.44 | Arif_ | I need a new vhost though :P |
| 19:07.51 | lcuk | shouldnt we have dos widgets by now |
| 19:08.01 | Arif_ | javispedro, so YOU killed the site |
| 19:08.06 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: fix partitioning en passant, while you're about to flash anyway ;-P |
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| 19:08.11 | lcuk | or other random *OS widgets (based on amiga OS - since thats the one true one lol) |
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| 19:08.26 | Arif_ | I want a pong widget |
| 19:08.28 | Arif_ | =} |
| 19:08.31 | javispedro | the site munged MY package thus I exacted revenge on the site! |
| 19:08.33 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, I think this is the 4th time this week |
| 19:08.37 | floffe | does talk work for anyone else? |
| 19:08.44 | MohammadAG | and by week I mean from the start of the week |
| 19:08.49 | hrw | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/microb-engine-common_20091230-1.9.2-6.8+0m5_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/microb-engine/chrome/en-US/locale/en-US/pippki/validation.dtd', which is also in package microb-engine-common-ext |
| 19:08.56 | hrw | someone forgot to test pacakges... |
| 19:09.20 | javispedro | or maybe they moved files around |
| 19:09.21 | lcuk | can people test/validate/file any sdk bugs please :) |
| 19:09.29 | VDVsx | wants Qt on the spectrum |
| 19:09.42 | hrw | lcuk: I can do that but after PR 1.2 will be released for people |
| 19:09.46 | Arif_ | Qt just got ported to the Comodore 64 I heard |
| 19:10.06 | Arif_ | but only the SDK is available :( |
| 19:10.12 | lcuk | sure hrw, but MohammadAG and yourself seem to be investigating things already |
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| 19:10.44 | hrw | lcuk: sure, but if I start reporting bugs then PR1.2 will really be released in november |
| 19:11.05 | lcuk | heh, then make notes |
| 19:11.11 | hrw | better let nokia release 1.2 in bad state and work fast on 1.2.1 which will fix errors |
| 19:11.30 | |R | hehe fix that damn SIP ;) |
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| 19:11.39 | hrw | I had 32MB free on / and it was not enough for upgrade |
| 19:11.45 | VDVsx | OMG talk is down :D |
| 19:11.54 | Arif_ | hrw, Nokia and fixing things? |
| 19:11.56 | lcuk | runs around screaming |
| 19:12.00 | Arif_ | blinks |
| 19:12.11 | |R | sacrifices a goat |
| 19:12.19 | Arif_ | mmm, goat |
| 19:12.28 | lcuk | shurrup Arif_ ~600 public bugs confirmed, triaged identified and fixed |
| 19:12.28 | Arif_ | makes döner from it |
| 19:12.34 | Jaffa | VDVsx: See, we got our wish! Now everyone will have to use mailing lists and IRC. Or we'll shoot them. |
| 19:13.01 | VDVsx | Jaffa, eheheh, and make multiple accounts :D |
| 19:13.19 | lcuk | where is my irc to tmo thread conversion thingy? |
| 19:13.31 | lcuk | i want to post here in irc and have it direct on tmo (with replies :P) |
| 19:13.38 | Arif_ | the forums are back! |
| 19:14.08 | VDVsx | lcuk, +1 |
| 19:14.13 | MohammadAG | <hrw> lcuk: sure, but if I start reporting bugs then PR1.2 will really be released in november |
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| 19:14.17 | MohammadAG | 2012 |
| 19:14.23 | MohammadAG | be more specific |
| 19:14.27 | hrw | MohammadAG: ;d |
| 19:15.19 | javispedro | lcuk: IRC to webforum bridge means the end of the internet as we know it! |
| 19:15.20 | Arif_ | I still havent found a changelog for v35 of N95 8GB |
| 19:15.21 | Arif_ | :D |
| 19:15.29 | Jaffa | lcuk: you're just trying to exclude people with the artificial barriers like "email client" and "IRC thingybob" |
| 19:15.48 | lcuk | omg, you know what |
| 19:15.58 | lcuk | we are missing the most important bridge of all |
| 19:16.14 | lcuk | the community members using myspace! |
| 19:16.31 | Arif_ | myspace?:P |
| 19:16.33 | javispedro | the solution here is clearly ship a "just point me to the nearest textbox where I can write about my very important opinion" icon in n900 app launcher. |
| 19:16.48 | Arif_ | javispedro, twitter? |
| 19:16.51 | MohammadAG | <Arif_> I still havent found a changelog for v35 of N95 8GB |
| 19:16.51 | lcuk | desktop widget? |
| 19:16.57 | MohammadAG | it's in the logs omsehwere |
| 19:16.59 | MohammadAG | somewhere* |
| 19:17.01 | lcuk | javispedro, |
| 19:17.04 | javispedro | actually /dev/null, but that's an implementation detail the user shouldn't know. |
| 19:17.12 | DocScrutinizer | Jaffa: (wish) good thing :-D |
| 19:17.16 | MohammadAG | Arif_, found it! <javispedro> MohammadAG: Changelog: "bumped version number" ;) |
| 19:17.25 | Robot101 | javispedro: isn't that called brainstorm? :P |
| 19:17.28 | Arif_ | :D |
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| 19:17.32 | Arif_ | sounds about right |
| 19:17.34 | lcuk | every line should be simulaposted across irc, twitter, facebook, tmo, google news and myspace |
| 19:17.48 | lcuk | like lawnmower man |
| 19:17.57 | Arif_ | lcuk, dont forget everyone in your MSN contact list |
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| 19:18.27 | lcuk | doesnt use msn anymore |
| 19:18.34 | javispedro | Robot101: touché :) |
| 19:18.40 | Shapeshifter | MohammadAG: did it work? |
| 19:19.07 | MohammadAG | Shapeshifter, the brickification? yeah |
| 19:19.12 | MohammadAG | made a new word |
| 19:19.17 | Robot101 | javispedro: I actually quite respect the Pidgin upstream, someone set up a brainstorm and they were quick to have it marked as unofficial, unsupported, and not a way to actually get the developers to pay any attention to you |
| 19:19.52 | Robot101 | its all about expectation management :) |
| 19:20.12 | Robot101 | turns out if you make april fools blogs about features that some people want, they get really worked up with you too |
| 19:20.16 | javispedro | amateurs |
| 19:20.30 | javispedro | the should've let the brainstorm stand but ignore every entry either way :) |
| 19:20.32 | hrw | brainstorm... terrible idea with even worse implementation |
| 19:21.03 | Robot101 | http://resiak.livejournal.com/60614.html |
| 19:21.04 | Robot101 | :P |
| 19:21.11 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, seen this https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/moebian-devel/2010-March/000012.html ? |
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| 19:21.45 | lcuk | why is there no brainstorming improvements brainstorm> |
| 19:21.47 | MiXu- | Hmm. Sygic doesn't seem bad at first glance. Gotta try tomorrow while driving. |
| 19:22.07 | hrw | MiXu-: too bad that there is no demo ver ;( |
| 19:22.10 | ShadowJK | oh my download just completed :) |
| 19:22.40 | Arif_ | sneds hrw sygicmobileinstaller.deb |
| 19:23.18 | MohammadAG | Arif_, me me me |
| 19:23.21 | MohammadAG | :P |
| 19:23.31 | MohammadAG | it's useless for me anyways :P |
| 19:23.35 | MohammadAG | brb |
| 19:23.45 | Arif_ | you could look at maps for different regions! :P |
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| 19:23.54 | hrw | Robot101: awesome feature! |
| 19:24.04 | marcus_ | Just came in, so hrw: What feature? .d |
| 19:24.05 | marcus_ | :D |
| 19:24.11 | hrw | 20:19 < Robot101> http://resiak.livejournal.com/60614.html |
| 19:24.46 | MiXu- | hrw: yeah |
| 19:24.48 | Robot101 | hrw: the comments are the depressing bit |
| 19:25.05 | VDVsx | is the kitten head customizable ? :D |
| 19:25.29 | javispedro | it is! |
| 19:25.35 | MarcusM | How :O |
| 19:25.39 | javispedro | you can choose between your average ugly green box |
| 19:25.43 | Robot101 | hrw: like, it's a joke, obviously, posted on april 1st, and there are people saying the telepathy developers should die in a fire because we don't take security seriously!!! etc |
| 19:26.07 | javispedro | clearly, your security has not enough head kittens. |
| 19:26.28 | hrw | Robot101: users... |
| 19:26.43 | VDVsx | but, but that feature is pretty cool :) |
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| 19:27.35 | hrw | Robot101: http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2008/04/01/moving-to-london/ and then read post linked at the end of it |
| 19:27.52 | SpeedEvil | VDVsx: /me keeps meaning to make bonsaikittens for ebay. A kitten toy - with a couple of servos to twitch it a bit |
| 19:28.42 | crashanddie | SpeedEvil: if you manipulate the motors in the right way, you won't even need a speaker to make it meow. |
| 19:28.51 | javispedro | hm april fools. |
| 19:29.26 | javispedro | jokes are outdated these days. outright plan evilness is the cool thing now! |
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| 19:29.55 | hrw | gconftool-2: I've been haxored to use xml::/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults as the config source. |
| 19:29.56 | javispedro | for example they could delete the bugtracker link from each and every extras package forcing every developer to reupload it |
| 19:29.59 | hrw | ;D |
| 19:30.05 | javispedro | i'm sure it would be seen as funny |
| 19:30.35 | hrw | javispedro: maemo extras needs someone who will do NMU instead of inventing new and new qa steps |
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| 19:31.03 | javispedro | ah, nmus on extras |
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| 19:31.47 | hrw | what is a sense on having to reupload pacakges jsut because 'cli icon is required since 5 minutes ago' |
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| 19:31.55 | hrw | argh |
| 19:32.35 | javispedro | well, everyone can do an nmu in extras |
| 19:32.38 | javispedro | :) |
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| 19:32.48 | javispedro | finding someone to do it for you, on the other side ;() |
| 19:32.54 | bennypr0fane | Hi, I'm trying to install this: http://iskuri.org/niklas/blogi/2010/shake-to-wake/ |
| 19:32.59 | bennypr0fane | Python script |
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| 19:33.41 | bennypr0fane | but i don't know how to put something in this directory: /home/user/shake/shake.py |
| 19:33.49 | bennypr0fane | can anyone help me out? |
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| 19:35.01 | bennypr0fane | also, i saved the script from the browser, so now it's named .html |
| 19:35.12 | bennypr0fane | if i just rename it to.py, will that work? |
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| 19:35.34 | lcuk | bennypr0fane, that script is a proof of concept thing |
| 19:35.43 | lcuk | and requires a package around it |
| 19:35.47 | lcuk | to be useful |
| 19:35.52 | bennypr0fane | hm |
| 19:35.56 | MarcusM | Does the n900 have built-in mms yet? (In an update or such) |
| 19:36.06 | hrw | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 19:36.06 | lcuk | post a comment on the guys blog asking him to add it so you can install directly from app manager |
| 19:36.07 | bennypr0fane | MarcusM no |
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| 19:36.10 | hrw | time to reboot |
| 19:36.19 | MarcusM | beenypr0fane: Ever thinking it will come? |
| 19:36.19 | javispedro | sssssssssrch ffmms |
| 19:36.25 | javispedro | oops |
| 19:36.30 | javispedro | search for fmms |
| 19:36.37 | MarcusM | javispedro: Read about that, but was wondering if they've updated it since then. |
| 19:36.57 | javispedro | it will most probably not ever get mms.. |
| 19:37.00 | lcuk | MarcusM, frals has been busy working away and others too :) |
| 19:37.14 | MarcusM | lcuk: Good to know :P |
| 19:37.16 | hrw | MarcusM: mms support is probably one of those things which will happen in 2013y device |
| 19:37.20 | frals | pling wat? |
| 19:37.29 | lcuk | speak of the devil! |
| 19:37.49 | MarcusM | hrw: Oh gawd. Kind of weird they didnt make it for the n900. |
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| 19:37.51 | frals | yes, fMMS is awesome etc |
| 19:37.53 | lcuk | i fr[tab]'ed you and didnt get a result lol |
| 19:38.00 | frals | (that was the topic, right? ;D) |
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| 19:38.08 | frals | hehe |
| 19:38.14 | lcuk | yes frals we were discussing your ascention |
| 19:38.31 | MohammadAG_ | back, with crippled firmware |
| 19:38.47 | MohammadAG_ | any idea how to reinstall mp-fremntle-generic-pr? |
| 19:38.53 | Shapeshifter | humm. |
| 19:38.54 | hrw | MohammadAG_: apt-get install |
| 19:38.58 | Shapeshifter | my n900 just rebooted. |
| 19:39.06 | Shapeshifter | aww my uptime xD |
| 19:39.07 | javispedro | no, the topic is whether frals need to be tied to a chair with a desktop computer and forced to work 25h a day to please mms users |
| 19:39.08 | MohammadAG_ | hrw broken packages |
| 19:39.18 | hrw | MohammadAG_: so check why |
| 19:39.28 | frals | javispedro: :( :D |
| 19:39.56 | hrw | ok, my n900 goes to pin input dialog and reboots |
| 19:39.56 | MohammadAG_ | hrw, any way to force the install? |
| 19:39.56 | Arif_ | yawns |
| 19:39.59 | bennypr0fane | Icuk can i install that script as it is now? if not, where would i find the required package? |
| 19:40.19 | Shapeshifter | where was that file that tells you the reason for reboot? |
| 19:40.43 | MohammadAG_ | /proc/bootreason |
| 19:40.48 | Shapeshifter | MohammadAG_: thanks |
| 19:41.02 | Shapeshifter | sw_rst. mh |
| 19:41.17 | MarcusM | Not that I want to bring it up again, but on http://www.meegosweden.com/ it says that MeeGo _will_ come to N900? Could that be correct. |
| 19:41.28 | MohammadAG_ | Shapeshifter, happens when i overload the cpu |
| 19:41.33 | MarcusM | Aha! http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=554980&postcount=196 |
| 19:41.33 | ShadowJK | MarcusM, sort of |
| 19:41.34 | floffe | MarcusM: a developer version, yes |
| 19:41.35 | MohammadAG_ | with things like audacity |
| 19:41.44 | MarcusM | Okay, thanks. |
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| 19:42.15 | Shapeshifter | MohammadAG_: mh. so the official google talk video thing, which is kinda hidden and apparently only works when you get called, is officially rubbish :) |
| 19:42.32 | MohammadAG_ | hidden? |
| 19:42.41 | MohammadAG_ | you can call someone |
| 19:43.08 | MohammadAG_ | i'm just curious if it turns on the red light while recording |
| 19:43.14 | MohammadAG_ | as there's a pattern for that |
| 19:43.24 | Shapeshifter | MohammadAG_: it doesn't |
| 19:43.43 | MohammadAG_ | what's the pattern for then? |
| 19:43.52 | MohammadAG_ | PatternWebcamActive i think |
| 19:43.57 | Shapeshifter | and I mean... the interface is just completely different when you _get called_ instead of _calling_ |
| 19:44.06 | Shapeshifter | and it caused a reboot. |
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| 19:44.24 | Shapeshifter | It almost appeared as if they forgot to remove it from the official version. |
| 19:44.34 | MohammadAG_ | Shapeshifter, how are you checking this |
| 19:44.43 | Shapeshifter | MohammadAG_: what do you mean checking? |
| 19:44.57 | MohammadAG_ | video calls? |
| 19:44.59 | Shapeshifter | I'm calling my n900 from my laptop using two different google-talk accounts |
| 19:45.04 | Shapeshifter | and the other way around |
| 19:45.18 | MohammadAG_ | what fw? |
| 19:45.43 | Shapeshifter | when the n900 gets called, the interface is different, and there's a webcam button. though when I press it, the call disconnects on both sides and after I tried this three times, the n900 rebooted. |
| 19:45.51 | Shapeshifter | MohammadAG_: uhm, latest, the normal one |
| 19:46.09 | MohammadAG_ | that doesn't have video calls |
| 19:46.11 | MohammadAG_ | officially |
| 19:46.25 | Shapeshifter | MohammadAG_: is it there because of "extra protocols plugin"? |
| 19:46.51 | MohammadAG_ | no |
| 19:47.08 | MohammadAG_ | by default u can't call someone |
| 19:47.25 | Shapeshifter | no? why can I? |
| 19:48.04 | MohammadAG_ | idk |
| 19:48.10 | MohammadAG_ | no video call option here |
| 19:48.14 | javispedro | aw |
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| 19:48.27 | javispedro | so control panel applets can't be user/ packages? |
| 19:48.37 | Shapeshifter | MohammadAG: well yeah. but if you call it from pidgin or so, you'll have a webcam button |
| 19:48.50 | MohammadAG | didn't know that |
| 19:48.52 | Shapeshifter | MohammadAG: doesn't work if you call _from_ the n900, but to |
| 19:49.30 | MohammadAG | what I learned today: never update to SDK packages |
| 19:49.34 | MohammadAG | it eats babies |
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| 19:49.46 | Shapeshifter | you kinda saw it comming though. |
| 19:50.17 | MohammadAG | yeah, should've had a bet with DocScrutinizer |
| 19:50.23 | MohammadAG | if it didn't work, he'd pay me |
| 19:50.25 | MohammadAG | :P |
| 19:50.33 | Shapeshifter | MohammadAG: now you owe him 10 internets? |
| 19:51.07 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: huh? I placed my bet on *fail* |
| 19:51.22 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, I should've placed it on fail |
| 19:51.24 | MohammadAG | :p |
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| 19:51.35 | MohammadAG | likes the green reflashing bar on the N900 screen |
| 19:51.46 | MohammadAG | reflashing again, just to see it fill up |
| 19:52.12 | Arif_ | you should record it! |
| 19:52.19 | MohammadAG | yeah, and youtube it! |
| 19:52.29 | Arif_ | so I can watch it! |
| 19:52.33 | MohammadAG | Arif_, how old are you again? you have the thoughts of a 10 year old :P |
| 19:52.45 | Arif_ | 12 :D |
| 19:52.48 | Arif_ | nah |
| 19:52.52 | MohammadAG | 1? |
| 19:53.00 | Arif_ | 6? |
| 19:53.11 | Shapeshifter | so, this rebooting the device when "overloading the cpu" is actually "wanted" behavior? why not just kill the offending process. |
| 19:53.13 | MohammadAG | unborn |
| 19:53.20 | crashanddie | MohammadAG & Arif_ take it outside |
| 19:53.29 | MohammadAG | Shapeshifter, could be the watchdog |
| 19:53.33 | MohammadAG | crashanddie, apologies |
| 19:53.45 | valdyn | Shapeshifter: "overloading the cpu" certainly does not cause reboots |
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| 19:53.53 | bennypr0fane | Still, can anyone brief me on how to put a file into a directory that is not accessible via the file manager? (/home) anyone? |
| 19:53.57 | MohammadAG | valdyn, it does here |
| 19:53.57 | Shapeshifter | valdyn: that's what he said. |
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| 19:54.17 | MohammadAG | again, it happens with apps like audacity |
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| 19:54.37 | Arif_ | bennypr0fanem use XTerm and type mv file_location new_location? |
| 19:54.59 | valdyn | my while true;do true;done isnt causing a reboot |
| 19:55.05 | MohammadAG | bennypr0fane, if you don't like XTerm use gpe-filemanager |
| 19:55.10 | valdyn | i think its running out of ram that might cause this |
| 19:55.55 | DocScrutinizer | Shapeshifter: said who? |
| 19:55.56 | valdyn | so like swapoff -a causes a reboot |
| 19:56.10 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer: MohammadAG |
| 19:56.16 | bennypr0fane | MohammadAG it's not about liking, it's just that i don't know the commands..... |
| 19:56.29 | valdyn | ~bash |
| 19:56.30 | infobot | sh-compatible command language interpreter. URL: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/, or ugly, or another word for a 'do' |
| 19:56.39 | valdyn | bennypr0fane: ^^ |
| 19:56.42 | MohammadAG | mv /path/to/file new_location |
| 19:56.44 | bennypr0fane | is gpe GUI-based? |
| 19:56.46 | DocScrutinizer | bennypr0fane: mc |
| 19:56.52 | MohammadAG | so take foo for example |
| 19:56.55 | MohammadAG | bennypr0fane, yes |
| 19:57.01 | DocScrutinizer | bennypr0fane: even comes with icon |
| 19:57.05 | MohammadAG | mv /home/user/MyDocs/foo /home |
| 19:57.06 | bennypr0fane | cool |
| 19:57.11 | MohammadAG | that should move foo, into /home |
| 19:57.29 | bennypr0fane | aha |
| 19:57.31 | bennypr0fane | i see |
| 19:57.33 | MohammadAG | bennypr0fane, just start it with root privs when you want to move system files |
| 19:57.53 | MohammadAG | (to start with root privs open terminal, type root, then gpe-filemanager) |
| 19:57.55 | bennypr0fane | i get it |
| 19:57.57 | MohammadAG | should start up the UI |
| 19:58.00 | bennypr0fane | mv is move |
| 19:58.00 | crashanddie | ~do |
| 19:58.01 | infobot | ACTION doesn't do $1, or an event like a party |
| 19:58.10 | Shapeshifter | ^^ |
| 19:58.15 | crashanddie | ~party |
| 19:58.16 | infobot | Woohoo! Bot on the loose! |
| 19:58.21 | bennypr0fane | so is gpe preinstalled? |
| 19:58.21 | crashanddie | ~loose |
| 19:58.22 | infobot | methinks loose is the most annoying spelling error. It's LOSE you moron. Unless of course you're using loose in a Madonna sorta way. |
| 19:58.27 | DocScrutinizer | or just type mc |
| 19:58.32 | GAN900 | I can't fathom why people want portrait in the browser |
| 19:58.33 | crashanddie | ~mc |
| 19:58.34 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, mc is Midnight Commander, a file browser for GNU. Monaco |
| 19:58.37 | GAN900 | It's uselesss. |
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| 19:58.50 | crashanddie | GAN900: you're useless, still the world had you anyway |
| 19:58.57 | GAN900 | Things are too wide 90% of the time. |
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| 19:59.05 | javispedro | GAN900: we need the Apple's patented force-portrait mode switch! |
| 19:59.09 | javispedro | Nokia please license it for us! |
| 19:59.13 | crashanddie | GAN900: you're too wide 90% of the time |
| 19:59.15 | GAN900 | crashanddie, hey, at least I can avoid getting beaten up b |
| 19:59.25 | GAN900 | by a bunch of street toughs. :P |
| 19:59.27 | valdyn | GAN900: plenty sites have text in a column that is not really wide enough for landscape mode |
| 19:59.40 | GAN900 | valdyn, not really |
| 19:59.42 | crashanddie | GAN900: i'm sorry, you little wanker, they were not street toughs, they were a bunch of kids |
| 19:59.42 | javispedro | s/force-portrait/force-landscape |
| 19:59.49 | Arif_ | GAN900, yeah....they should've put portrait in media player & conversations first..... |
| 19:59.52 | crashanddie | GAN900: :D |
| 19:59.53 | GAN900 | crashanddie, worse! |
| 19:59.58 | valdyn | GAN900: www.sueddeutsche.de |
| 20:00.03 | valdyn | GAN900: slashdot.org |
| 20:00.08 | valdyn | GAN900: endless list |
| 20:00.14 | GAN900 | valdyn, slashdot fits fine |
| 20:00.22 | javispedro | valdyn: that's what Ctrl+Shift+I is for |
| 20:00.33 | GAN900 | valdyn, the overall content does not count as a "text column" |
| 20:00.39 | javispedro | to send a signal that tells the designer of the site to die |
| 20:00.40 | valdyn | javispedro: lets see, i didnt know that one |
| 20:00.45 | GAN900 | and portrait aint any wider |
| 20:00.49 | valdyn | javispedro: hehe |
| 20:00.55 | crashanddie | javispedro: that exists, it's called a paycheck |
| 20:00.55 | GAN900 | So I don't see your point. |
| 20:01.07 | valdyn | javispedro: unfortunately slashdot at least no fixed layout, but thats the exception |
| 20:01.15 | GAN900 | Arif_, equally useless. |
| 20:01.24 | GAN900 | Arif_, you can't type in portrait. |
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| 20:01.31 | crashanddie | sure you can |
| 20:01.33 | Arif_ | T9 |
| 20:01.36 | Arif_ | :P |
| 20:01.36 | crashanddie | if you have a twin brother |
| 20:01.36 | GAN900 | Haha |
| 20:01.40 | GAN900 | Fucking fail |
| 20:01.50 | valdyn | GAN900: maybe you just like or need huge fonts, i dont |
| 20:01.54 | crashanddie | GAN900: stop bitching, go PM |
| 20:01.56 | Arif_ | its really annoying to use both hands just to change a song.... |
| 20:02.05 | GAN900 | valdyn, um? |
| 20:02.16 | crashanddie | Arif_: that's because you're not skilled enough with one hand... |
| 20:02.20 | GAN900 | valdyn, I think you're completely missing my poit. |
| 20:02.38 | Arif_ | I don't want to jump around in the metro/bus :P |
| 20:03.11 | valdyn | GAN900: your point was that you "cannot fathom why people want portrait mode" |
| 20:03.40 | GAN900 | valdyn, not sure what wide websites or large fonts has to do with that. |
| 20:05.28 | valdyn | GAN900: I cant that any more obvious |
| 20:05.28 | valdyn | GAN900: I cant make that any more obvious |
| 20:05.32 | GAN900 | valdyn, OK then. |
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| 20:12.03 | hrw | restoring backup ;( |
| 20:12.04 | bennypr0fane | I can't find gpe filemanager. Is this in extras testing or devel (cause i disabled these...)? |
| 20:12.52 | lcuk | bennypr0fane, you could of course find out which its in by simple process of elimination |
| 20:13.20 | Arif_ | oo, drnoksnes is updated....again! |
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| 20:20.26 | DocScrutinizer | bennypr0fane: try mc |
| 20:20.48 | bennypr0fane | what's mc? |
| 20:20.51 | andrewfblack_ | konttori: anyway to remove Swipe to unlock text from lockscreen? |
| 20:20.53 | DocScrutinizer | ~mc |
| 20:20.54 | infobot | from memory, mc is Midnight Commander, a file browser for GNU. Monaco |
| 20:21.26 | konttori | andrewfblack_: hmm... perhaps by nulling the localization text |
| 20:21.34 | konttori | but, for any sane solution, I think not |
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| 20:21.55 | konttori | is on daddy month, so cannot ask from devs |
| 20:22.02 | d14_ | bennypr0fane: http://my-maemo.com/software/applications.php?name=Midnight_Commander&faq=42&fldAuto=949 |
| 20:22.16 | andrewfblack_ | konttori: Daddy month? |
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| 20:22.36 | konttori | yeah, one moth with my little emilia while my wife goes to work |
| 20:22.40 | andrewfblack_ | Swipe to unlock looks strange on my theme now that you don't have to swipe just click |
| 20:22.56 | andrewfblack_ | konttori: you guys take turns working months? |
| 20:23.28 | konttori | no, it's customary. I get 75% of pay from goverment for that month |
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| 20:23.42 | noobmonk3y | MohammadAG - great job on the post :D |
| 20:23.49 | konttori | so, it's really worth taking. |
| 20:24.00 | andrewfblack_ | konttori: nice |
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| 20:26.00 | andrewfblack_ | is falling back into Gimmick Themes and needs to get to work on some real good ones again |
| 20:26.03 | konttori | well, had emilia been born month or two later, I would have been able to enjoy month and a half, but... anyway, it's great to be able to take mind off from mundane things for a while and spend some time with the kid. |
| 20:26.22 | konttori | Also, it's nice to be *just* a user of n900 for a change. |
| 20:26.28 | DocScrutinizer | wow, just noticed lockscreen bug is fixed. No longer stays alive when touching it frequently |
| 20:26.46 | andrewfblack_ | konttori: yeah must be nice. over here I get to take 12 weeks off when my kid is born but unless I have vacation I don' get paid |
| 20:26.57 | konttori | we wrapped up pr1.2 before I left, so my mind is free from burden of it |
| 20:27.14 | andrewfblack_ | makes note not to bug konttori for the next month |
| 20:27.28 | konttori | andrewfblack_: yeah, I also had a month when emilia was born, this is just a little bit extra. |
| 20:27.46 | konttori | lol, bug me all you want, but I certainly won't be able to help much. |
| 20:28.40 | andrewfblack_ | konttori: when my wife has our first child I wont get but 1 week off with pay because I'm saving up vaction to give to her so she can stay out longer. We work together and our company allows use to donate Vaction to other people |
| 20:29.03 | crashanddie | vaction eh? |
| 20:29.15 | konttori | lol! |
| 20:29.24 | konttori | (lol was about the term vacation) |
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| 20:29.37 | crashanddie | your company might allow it, but legally in most countries that practise is illegal |
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| 20:29.49 | konttori | anyway, that makes sense andrewfblack_ . |
| 20:29.54 | timeless_mbp | konttori: you finished 1.2? congrats |
| 20:30.25 | andrewfblack_ | hates webchat client keeps closing it out |
| 20:31.11 | crashanddie | i guess the best place to have kids is sweden still |
| 20:31.13 | hrw | -> off |
| 20:33.45 | crashanddie | sweden gives you 16 months maternal leave AND 16 months paternal leave |
| 20:33.48 | toggles_w | hrw -> on ! |
| 20:33.51 | crashanddie | out of which 3 months can be combined |
| 20:33.59 | crashanddie | that's paid leave, too |
| 20:34.03 | toggles_w | oh.. doesn't work like wonder twin powers... |
| 20:34.34 | crashanddie | wonder twin powers when someone toggles hrw on? |
| 20:34.48 | toggles_w | though he might come back? |
| 20:34.51 | pupnik | crashanddie: you know they dont "givea" anything |
| 20:35.03 | crashanddie | givea? |
| 20:35.20 | crashanddie | jive-e? |
| 20:35.21 | pupnik | that is all taken out of your salary, taxes and employment opportunities |
| 20:35.25 | pupnik | give |
| 20:35.30 | crashanddie | well, yeah |
| 20:35.31 | crashanddie | but still |
| 20:35.41 | crashanddie | i mean, who cares, 16 frikking months leave dude |
| 20:35.54 | crashanddie | that's like uni all over again |
| 20:35.58 | crashanddie | paid to do nothing, and then some |
| 20:36.23 | pupnik | it is merely a lack of choice |
| 20:36.47 | petteri | lols at pupnik |
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| 20:38.33 | crashanddie | just admit it, sweden is the best place to have kids |
| 20:38.35 | andrei1089 | hi, X-Fade |
| 20:38.42 | crashanddie | move there, spit some kids out, leave |
| 20:38.47 | crashanddie | how hard can it be? |
| 20:38.56 | lcuk | for you as a male, i think quite difficult |
| 20:39.24 | Arif_ | He'd need some help.. |
| 20:39.36 | crashanddie | well, I've got enough children bodyparts in my luggage that I can fix one up |
| 20:39.45 | asj_ | Arif_: don't we all? |
| 20:39.53 | crashanddie | plus, I can always dig some up from my time in Belgium |
| 20:40.17 | Arif_ | XD |
| 20:40.19 | crashanddie | brb, police at the door for some reason |
| 20:40.23 | GAN900 | Woot |
| 20:40.46 | d14_ | :)) |
| 20:40.48 | crashanddie | I really need to stop with my inappropriate talking |
| 20:41.00 | crashanddie | when I was at the hospital for my eye, this guy walks in with a massive eyepatch |
| 20:41.29 | crashanddie | he sits next to me, and I teasingly said "Woah there brother, that's one massive eyepatch, what'd'they do? Add you another one?" |
| 20:41.45 | crashanddie | He goes: "No, they had to remove it" |
| 20:41.51 | Arif_ | lol |
| 20:41.53 | crashanddie | [... awkward ...] |
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| 20:42.03 | Arif_ | they can remove mine too |
| 20:42.07 | Arif_ | doesn't work anyway ={ |
| 20:42.29 | crashanddie | Arif_: the whole 3DTV must really suck for you |
| 20:42.37 | Arif_ | indeed |
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| 20:42.43 | Arif_ | it looks quite the same as 2D... |
| 20:42.52 | crashanddie | except for the horrible chromatic aberation and bleeding |
| 20:44.06 | Arif_ | there's a 3D test channel on Turksat.....and everything has weird colors in it |
| 20:45.09 | pupnik | an abberation is some idiot stealing my wages to force me to take off 16 months when i have a kid |
| 20:45.23 | dmj726_n900 | don't worry, that chromatic aberation is annoying for all of us. |
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| 20:45.49 | crashanddie | pupnik: you're not forced to take the parental leave if you really want to be a bad father |
| 20:46.12 | SpeedEvil | pupnik: If you have a kid, I think you'll get to not work again on the media income alone. |
| 20:46.46 | crashanddie | pupnik: plus, looking at all the sleepless nights you have to go through when having a kid, you'd be an idiot not to take some time off |
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| 20:47.31 | crashanddie | best xkcd to date http://xkcd.com/717/ |
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| 20:52.17 | Tobarja | just got a n810 in the mail today... can someone recommend a few good 'application catalogs' i should add? |
| 20:52.32 | Stskeeps | maemo extras should be all you ned |
| 20:52.38 | Stskeeps | maemo.org extras, that is |
| 20:52.54 | Arif_ | is there anything else? |
| 20:52.55 | Arif_ | :D |
| 20:53.31 | Tobarja | maybe i did something wrong then... i've only got about a dozen apps available in 'all' and i marked extras as not disabled |
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| 20:54.09 | Arif_ | you should have <500 apps |
| 20:54.38 | Tobarja | ah ok... i clicked refresh and now i have lots more :) |
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| 20:56.08 | Arif_ | why did you get an N810 anyway |
| 20:56.22 | trip0 | my osk doesn't appear anymore all of the sudden |
| 20:56.33 | trip0 | anyone experience the same thing before? |
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| 20:58.26 | Tobarja | because i can't afford a n900 |
| 20:59.08 | Arif_ | you could've saved more ;( |
| 20:59.28 | haltdef | order mine friday :D |
| 21:00.34 | Arif_ | I'm wating for a better S60v5 device to get released |
| 21:00.36 | Arif_ | :P |
| 21:00.43 | haltdef | never used symbian |
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| 21:01.56 | Arif_ | the X6 looks nice |
| 21:02.01 | Arif_ | but it has a small screen ;( |
| 21:02.06 | hd1 | what's the X6? |
| 21:02.15 | crashanddie | Arif_: the n810 is still a very good device |
| 21:02.18 | Arif_ | http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_x6_16gb-3109.php |
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| 21:02.26 | haltdef | still wants a phone |
| 21:02.38 | crashanddie | Arif_: we really shouldn't be dissing any device running maemo |
| 21:02.38 | haltdef | never paid any attention to maemo up until the n900 |
| 21:02.38 | hd1 | will stick to his Nexus 1 |
| 21:03.02 | hd1 | I also have an n900, but it's crap as a phone, which is a shame,because otherwise it's a great device |
| 21:03.03 | haltdef | 360 x 640 pixels, 3.2 inches |
| 21:03.03 | haltdef | ew |
| 21:03.07 | crashanddie | hd1: if you came here to troll, you can leave right away too |
| 21:03.11 | Arif_ | crashanddie, its not that its bad...but will people still do stuff with it now maemo5/meego(later) is out |
| 21:03.30 | crashanddie | Arif_: Maemo 5 has been out for what, 6 months now? |
| 21:03.34 | haltdef | don't need the phone bit to be brilliant, just a secondary function :P |
| 21:03.35 | noobmonk3y | Arif_ i will, lol well for another 1 4months till i'm due for an upgrade |
| 21:03.37 | noobmonk3y | 14* |
| 21:03.40 | crashanddie | Arif_: it didn't remove qualities from the n8x0 |
| 21:03.46 | hd1 | haltdef: then you might be happy with it |
| 21:04.11 | C-S-B-N900 | the channel has really livened up in here... |
| 21:04.29 | haltdef | I'm probably not alone in wanting a pocketable internet tablet with 3G :p |
| 21:04.39 | crashanddie | and it's about to go real quiet if the android trolls don't shut up |
| 21:05.13 | hd1 | sighs |
| 21:05.21 | noobmonk3y | hmmmm if i send a dbus query to activate the led can i create my own pattern in dbus, or am i limited by the mce patterns, such as - PatternCommunicationCall |
| 21:05.32 | haltdef | can you install unapproved apps without rooting? |
| 21:05.34 | haltdef | (android) |
| 21:05.51 | hd1 | haltdef: nope |
| 21:05.58 | haltdef | not happy with this app store being the only way to install stuff |
| 21:06.04 | C-S-B-N900 | why would android users troll? Are we all batting for the same side |
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| 21:06.10 | haltdef | coming from windows mobile |
| 21:06.21 | haltdef | also not as easy to port linux apps is it |
| 21:06.23 | hd1 | nice Google's hiring bond traders |
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| 21:06.48 | DocScrutinizer | noobmonk3y: you need to define the pattern in mce.ini |
| 21:06.51 | crashanddie | C-S-B-N900: not really |
| 21:07.14 | hd1 | CSB -- are you the Comic Strip Blogger? |
| 21:07.22 | C-S-B-N900 | nope |
| 21:07.26 | MohammadAG | noobmonk3y, ty :) |
| 21:07.29 | MohammadAG | off to bed |
| 21:07.32 | MohammadAG | nn |
| 21:08.33 | dmj726_n900 | winmo 7 is....like an iphone from a couple years back...with all the good and bad. |
| 21:09.13 | hd1 | what's good about winMo? I've never had the pleasure of using (or writing apps for) it? |
| 21:09.18 | C-S-B-N900 | i think android and maemo are both making awareness of open source. |
| 21:09.25 | dmj726_n900 | the new ui looks decent |
| 21:09.30 | C-S-B-N900 | which has to be good |
| 21:09.32 | noobmonk3y | lol |
| 21:09.46 | noobmonk3y | DocScrutinizer - cheers :( |
| 21:09.48 | C-S-B-N900 | one more refined than the other... |
| 21:09.49 | haltdef | doesn't care about open source |
| 21:09.56 | noobmonk3y | pity wanted to run some random tests from python, via dbus |
| 21:10.01 | dmj726_n900 | ...but winmo 7 is locked down, lacks multitasking. copy paste |
| 21:10.01 | haltdef | just stop trying to control how I use my £500 device, bastards |
| 21:10.02 | GAN900 | C-S-B-N900, Android is the enemy of mobile Linux. |
| 21:10.07 | DocScrutinizer | noobmonk3y: ?? |
| 21:10.17 | noobmonk3y | having an issue where only some of the mce' ones work... as some require the screen to be off to work |
| 21:10.17 | C-S-B-N900 | gan900 why? |
| 21:10.56 | DocScrutinizer | noobmonk3y: so what. That's how they are defined |
| 21:11.08 | GAN900 | C-S-B-N900, because it's not Linux. It's a kernel with Google's insanity on top. |
| 21:11.26 | hd1 | GAN900: Linux IS a kernel |
| 21:11.31 | dmj726_n900 | correction: android is the enemy of mobile gnu/linux |
| 21:11.31 | hd1 | the userland is GNU |
| 21:11.39 | noobmonk3y | :D - just wanted to be able to run through a drop down list - which i have, and test... i think i'm going to have to learn how to blacken the screen..... |
| 21:11.45 | GAN900 | hd1, no, the userland is bustybox. |
| 21:11.47 | hd1 | GAN900: Linux is nothing more than a kernel |
| 21:11.50 | noobmonk3y | so far 4 / 8 work |
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| 21:11.59 | DocScrutinizer | noobmonk3y: you're free to define your own custom patterns in mce.ini - if you're root to do that |
| 21:11.59 | GAN900 | hd1, don't presume to try to lecture me on this issue. :) |
| 21:12.03 | hd1 | GAN: the userland in most Linux distros is GNU |
| 21:12.13 | noobmonk3y | :) - yeah dont want to screw peoples mce as part of my app :D |
| 21:12.17 | GAN900 | C-S-B-N900, it's taking market away from distros that actually care about compliant technologies |
| 21:12.19 | noobmonk3y | just run through to show them whats in there :D |
| 21:12.23 | hd1 | why not? you're wrong, GAN900 |
| 21:12.29 | hd1 | and I know you are |
| 21:12.32 | noobmonk3y | would also like to run custom patterns, ie, test different led colours |
| 21:12.34 | GAN900 | Not developing their own ecosystem that's not compliant with anything else |
| 21:12.38 | hd1 | as do you (I suspect) |
| 21:12.40 | noobmonk3y | (ie healthcheck) |
| 21:12.46 | hd1 | GAN900: Dalik is open source |
| 21:12.59 | GAN900 | But it's not compatible with anything |
| 21:13.08 | hd1 | neither is maemo |
| 21:13.08 | crashanddie | open source != compatible |
| 21:13.08 | Stskeeps | hd1: maemo uses busybox but coreutils and bash |
| 21:13.10 | DocScrutinizer | noobmonk3y: you always can access the sysfs nodes directly - if you're root |
| 21:13.11 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 21:13.23 | GAN900 | Maemo uses GTK and Qt, which are available on everything. |
| 21:13.24 | Stskeeps | s/but/not/ |
| 21:13.26 | noobmonk3y | hmm again the app wont be root, thankee though :) |
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| 21:13.41 | noobmonk3y | will stick to the current ones for now :D |
| 21:13.47 | GAN900 | Davlik is limited to Android |
| 21:13.58 | hd1 | Dalik can be compiled anywhere else |
| 21:14.07 | GAN900 | can see arguing with hd1 will never go anywhere productive. |
| 21:14.13 | Arif_ | oh I leave for a few minutes and there's a debate again |
| 21:14.21 | crashanddie | lol... android troll can't even spell the name of the VM |
| 21:14.26 | GAN900 | hd1, so it's a good idea to break from everything else? |
| 21:14.26 | valdyn | GAN900: Davlik is not free software? |
| 21:14.27 | dmj726_n900 | I can tell you that a lot of the best stuff for maemo would be pain to port to android |
| 21:14.32 | hd1 | GAN: only because you're so thick |
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| 21:14.40 | DocScrutinizer | noobmonk3y: well, that's the way the system keeps sane. Not allow user to do things like running weird patterns on indicator LED |
| 21:14.42 | hd1 | smiles |
| 21:14.48 | pupnik | and vice versa dmj726_n900 ? |
| 21:14.48 | *** mode/#maemo [+b *!*hdiwan@*.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] by crashanddie |
| 21:14.48 | *** kick/#maemo [hd1!~slauwers@Maemo/community/contributor/crashanddie] by crashanddie (goodbye) |
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| 21:15.24 | noobmonk3y | hehe :D tis fair enough :D |
| 21:15.38 | noobmonk3y | allows me to run some, though so not entirely noobmonkey safe ;) |
| 21:15.38 | dmj726_n900 | yep, porting an android app to desktop linux would be unpleas*nt |
| 21:16.10 | GAN900 | Maemo forwards existing Linux desktop technologies |
| 21:16.19 | dmj726_n900 | however, porting a maemo app to debian is mostly a matter of packaging (hardware aside) |
| 21:16.21 | pupnik | well put GAN900 |
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| 21:16.56 | pupnik | that is the power, and also the ball-and-chain |
| 21:17.47 | crashanddie | two examples: openoffice and thunderbird. Both ran on n8x0 (maybe even 770?). Even though I truly despise people who did such ports, the simple fact that they were possible tells a lot about the platform. |
| 21:18.16 | dmj726_n900 | my mom uses oo.o on her n900. |
| 21:18.22 | jacekowski | hi |
| 21:18.23 | haltdef | :o |
| 21:18.24 | pupnik | i found the difficult abiword a very happy result |
| 21:18.34 | jacekowski | i've bought sygic in torrent shop |
| 21:19.03 | jacekowski | and i'm not sure how to install it |
| 21:19.11 | jacekowski | as there is small .deb file |
| 21:19.15 | jacekowski | and lot of other files |
| 21:19.23 | pupnik | btw is there a simple print->pdf->pipe->cups server solution? |
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| 21:19.39 | pupnik | without a full cups on n900? |
| 21:19.45 | valdyn | jacekowski: you want help in using software without license? |
| 21:19.45 | GAN900 | lol |
| 21:19.52 | pupnik | or something equivalent? |
| 21:20.01 | jacekowski | valdyn: i need help evaluating software |
| 21:20.07 | GAN900 | I can't believe people who sell .debs |
| 21:20.14 | Appiah | what |
| 21:20.17 | valdyn | jacekowski: thats ridiculous |
| 21:20.18 | GAN900 | It's such a burden for your customer. |
| 21:20.19 | Appiah | who does that? |
| 21:20.24 | pupnik | it would be kinds cool to print from n900 |
| 21:20.38 | jacekowski | pupnik: well, lpr |
| 21:21.02 | jacekowski | pupnik: i mean you could possibly create something very simple |
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| 21:21.26 | jacekowski | because cups is big because it talks to printers and does a lot of other stuff |
| 21:21.47 | valdyn | pupnik: thats not hard to solve |
| 21:22.38 | crashanddie | I want to create a CUPS monitor that will say everything that is happening on the printer level with one out of two random female voices |
| 21:22.48 | pupnik | valdyn: would be best if someone with a cloo would do it |
| 21:22.49 | crashanddie | and call it 2grlz1CUPS |
| 21:22.54 | Shapeshifter | btw, is mbarcode supposed to work? |
| 21:22.54 | pupnik | probabl hahahah |
| 21:23.50 | GAN900 | DocScrutinizer, your wish is now a burden! |
| 21:24.36 | X-Fade | DocScrutinizer: Use the force wisely ;) |
| 21:26.08 | DocScrutinizer | GAN900: huh? |
| 21:26.19 | DocScrutinizer | checks some.... |
| 21:26.31 | crashanddie | DocScrutinizer: use the force, doc, and if that doesn't work, try turning it off and then on again. |
| 21:27.00 | DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: I c |
| 21:27.00 | microlith | Shapeshifter: it does, but its camera handling is poor |
| 21:27.17 | microlith | it stretches the image to fit the window, and can't control the focus |
| 21:27.22 | DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: not that it's been exactly a wish ;-P just an offer |
| 21:27.31 | noobmonk3y | hahaha!!! |
| 21:27.37 | noobmonk3y | grins n laughs |
| 21:28.42 | pupnik | software should be in english |
| 21:28.44 | pupnik | so the world can finally communicate |
| 21:29.26 | Trizt | thought everyone knew Finnish |
| 21:29.36 | valdyn | pupnik: you can now already print from the debian chroot. Integrating with nokia closed source apps is probably not possible though |
| 21:29.41 | noobmonk3y | lcuk |
| 21:29.46 | noobmonk3y | prods lcuk |
| 21:29.47 | noobmonk3y | lol |
| 21:29.51 | noobmonk3y | learns to type |
| 21:30.26 | pupnik | typops are permitted on thumbboards |
| 21:30.59 | lcuk | noobmonk3y, hi |
| 21:31.06 | lcuk | ive got an idea i want to run past you |
| 21:31.10 | lcuk | but no time now |
| 21:31.15 | noobmonk3y | you know how feeble my vibrate test was on healthcheck? |
| 21:31.25 | noobmonk3y | sorted that out - it just scared me when i tested it! |
| 21:31.26 | lcuk | i dont :P |
| 21:31.37 | lcuk | noobmonk3y, speak with jaffa |
| 21:31.58 | noobmonk3y | well, tested, and then the missus text, just as i hit test! it went on a mega vibrate for 10 seconds till the dbus call shut it down |
| 21:32.05 | noobmonk3y | speak with Jaffa? |
| 21:32.13 | noobmonk3y | death by vibration is possible? lol |
| 21:32.27 | jacekowski | yes |
| 21:32.28 | noobmonk3y | but least i got it working now :D |
| 21:32.43 | jacekowski | but that has to strong vibration |
| 21:33.26 | noobmonk3y | :D |
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| 21:34.30 | Shapeshifter | microlith: yeah I couldn't get it to scan any of the barcodes I have around here |
| 21:35.28 | DocScrutinizer | noobmonk3y: actually I'd not be surprised to find the vibrator isn't designed to work on 100% for extended periods of time |
| 21:36.06 | DocScrutinizer | noobmonk3y: where "extended" means like minutes here |
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| 21:36.48 | w00t_ | I put mine on 100% vibrate a few times |
| 21:36.52 | w00t_ | it scared me, so I stopped doing it |
| 21:36.53 | w00t_ | :P |
| 21:37.06 | noobmonk3y | hehehe :D |
| 21:37.09 | noobmonk3y | lol w00t_ |
| 21:37.16 | haltdef | my x1 no longer vibrates, just quietly clicks |
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| 21:37.21 | GAN900 | DocScrutinizer, access list assuming you haven't already figured it out. |
| 21:37.29 | noobmonk3y | DocScrutinizer - yeah i agree - wasnt my idea to do it, was a phantom txt ;) |
| 21:37.30 | DocScrutinizer | w00t_: I found vibration is stronger on maybe 75% than on 100% |
| 21:37.42 | DocScrutinizer | GAN900: I figured |
| 21:37.58 | DocScrutinizer | GAN900: [2010-03-22 22:27:22] <DocScrutinizer> X-Fade: not that it's been exactly a wish ;-P just an offer |
| 21:38.07 | w00t_ | DocScrutinizer: anything over 20% made me uncomfortable |
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| 21:39.26 | GAN900 | dockside, ah, missed that. |
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| 21:41.27 | GAN900 | highlight fail |
| 21:41.28 | DocScrutinizer | w00t_: that's what the PWM is for - make you feel comfortable with the result :-) |
| 21:41.44 | DocScrutinizer | GAN900: anyway got it |
| 21:42.10 | DocScrutinizer | :-D |
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| 21:43.52 | jacekowski | hmmm |
| 21:43.57 | jacekowski | i've got sygic working |
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| 21:44.48 | Corsac | hmhm, wonder if the mediaplayer will last one complete transatlantic flight |
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| 21:45.33 | crashanddie | http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/22/1635205/Open-Source-Is-Not-a-Democracy?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher |
| 21:45.36 | ShadowJK | searching for places is even more broken in sygic than ovi |
| 21:45.42 | crashanddie | It's about time the open source community caught on |
| 21:45.46 | crashanddie | Thank fuck for that! |
| 21:46.01 | crashanddie | Corsac: yup it does |
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| 21:46.36 | crashanddie | Corsac: I flew from Australia (brissie) to London, with 3h stop in Bangkok, only had to charge the N900 in London |
| 21:47.03 | DocScrutinizer | Corsac: I'd recommend to get a spare bat precharged |
| 21:47.13 | crashanddie | Corsac: same thing on the way back, charged it the day before I left, flew from London to Brisbane, with 2h stop in Dubai, and it had enough juice to phone for 2h after I landed |
| 21:47.41 | ShadowJK | The search works if you know the postal number.. |
| 21:47.46 | ShadowJK | how silly |
| 21:47.51 | DocScrutinizer | crashanddie: amazing |
| 21:48.18 | crashanddie | I killed the Nokia headphones when I landed in London though |
| 21:48.22 | crashanddie | so had to buy new ones :( |
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| 21:48.46 | Myrtti | Open source isn't a democracy. NEWS AT ELEVEN! |
| 21:49.04 | Myrtti | shock and horror |
| 21:49.16 | Corsac | DocScrutinizer: don't have one at all :) |
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| 21:50.40 | crashanddie | Corsac: also, which company are you flying with? |
| 21:51.45 | jacekowski | Corsac: well, if you will behave like a good passenger and don't use it when they tell you to don't use it - it will last |
| 21:52.12 | Corsac | crashanddie: KLM |
| 21:52.33 | Myrtti | klm ⥠|
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| 21:52.50 | Corsac | CDG-YVR via AMS |
| 21:52.59 | crashanddie | Corsac: never did intercontinental with them, but they usually offer good service: if your battery runs low, take your charger and phone, and ask a flight attendant if she can plug it in somewhere for an hour or two |
| 21:53.22 | crashanddie | watch a movie, then ask for it back |
| 21:53.26 | Corsac | I wonder if I should take the wall charger or only the usb key |
| 21:53.29 | Corsac | cable* |
| 21:53.33 | crashanddie | wall charger |
| 21:53.40 | crashanddie | they don't have USB ports in the plane, yet :P |
| 21:54.01 | crashanddie | unless you have a laptop with you, in which case you can charge it that way |
| 21:54.11 | Corsac | I do |
| 21:54.26 | crashanddie | but really the wall charger is the easiest solution, I always do that with my macbook if it runs out of juice |
| 21:54.32 | Corsac | might be a good idea to bring the laptop just as a power source :) |
| 21:54.44 | Corsac | or a power adaptor |
| 21:55.06 | Corsac | plug n900 to laptop plugged to the wall :) |
| 21:55.11 | Corsac | a big big power adaptor |
| 21:55.17 | crashanddie | best is to fly with emirates, as they provide power sockets for everyone, even in economy (on the big boeings). If you're nice and understanding, most cabin crew will allow you to plug it in no problem |
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| 21:56.16 | Corsac | yeah but I don't think emirates does CDG-YVR except with a connection in dubai? :) |
| 21:56.51 | crashanddie | YVR? |
| 21:56.53 | Arif_ | take a few extra batteries with you? |
| 21:57.09 | jacekowski | crashanddie: BA provides sockets in some planes in economy as well |
| 21:57.20 | crashanddie | jacekowski: indeed |
| 21:57.25 | jacekowski | i just don't understand why their staff went on strike recently |
| 21:57.31 | crashanddie | but BA's service isn't very good... especially this weekend |
| 21:57.44 | jacekowski | i mean - they agreed onto specific contract terms |
| 21:57.54 | crashanddie | emirates you get hot chicks rubbing themselves against you |
| 21:58.28 | Corsac | crashanddie: vancoucer |
| 21:58.36 | Corsac | s/ce/ve/ |
| 21:58.50 | crashanddie | yeah, probably not |
| 21:58.59 | crashanddie | but then again, it's your own damn fault for going to vancouver :P |
| 21:59.19 | Corsac | definitely :) |
| 21:59.41 | crashanddie | just take the wall charger, you'll be fine |
| 21:59.57 | crashanddie | unless you're an annoying prick, they'll charge it for you, but then again, I don't expect you to need it |
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| 22:01.03 | Corsac | last year I tried to gps trace the plane course but gps is too heavy on battery :) |
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| 22:02.02 | Arif_ | ponders on how crappy European flights are |
| 22:02.09 | Arif_ | we don't get anything.. |
| 22:02.20 | lcuk | there should be a low powered gps that only tells you if you deviate from the flightpath |
| 22:02.26 | lcuk | ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, crap |
| 22:02.49 | noobmonk3y | lol |
| 22:02.49 | crashanddie | lcuk: and raise an alert if your course brings you near important buildings |
| 22:03.01 | noobmonk3y | takes a deep breath] |
| 22:03.01 | frals | anyone around HEL next monday? ;o |
| 22:03.06 | noobmonk3y | oooo |
| 22:03.12 | SpeedEvil1 | crashanddie: Also a skydiving tutorial app. |
| 22:03.17 | frals | looks around and glances over at mr bacon |
| 22:03.18 | lcuk | n900fly |
| 22:03.20 | SpeedEvil1 | 'learn to skydive in 20s' |
| 22:03.22 | noobmonk3y | lol! |
| 22:03.25 | Corsac | oook |
| 22:04.06 | Arif_ | the iPhone will do that automagically! |
| 22:04.10 | crashanddie | though, I have to say, flying out from Dubai is a bit weird, because for once you look like a terrorist, being the only white kid with a suitcase full of wires and electronical equipment, in a plane full of bearded muslims |
| 22:04.33 | Pio | heh |
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| 22:04.59 | noobmonk3y | will brb |
| 22:05.06 | Myrtti | moar painkillers! |
| 22:05.34 | SpeedEvil1 | ponders painkillers. |
| 22:05.43 | SpeedEvil1 | Moved ~10 tons of soil this week |
| 22:05.53 | Arif_ | you'll probably get questioned and miss your flight :( |
| 22:07.03 | crashanddie | lcuk: another feature would be the network detection mode |
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| 22:08.21 | lcuk | frals, i dunno yet |
| 22:08.38 | Arif_ | now you mention network detection...our airport wants to count people via bluetooth |
| 22:08.44 | RurouniJones | Just be careful of British Airways flight attendants. |
| 22:08.56 | RurouniJones | I tihnk they are recruited from School cafeteria personnel. |
| 22:09.37 | Arif_ | RurouniJones, last thing I saw they were making pr0n in the airplanes xD |
| 22:09.42 | RurouniJones | Also read the "Freefall survival guide" very funny and interesting. |
| 22:10.41 | jacekowski | Arif_: that's why european flights are so cheap |
| 22:10.53 | Arif_ | they're not exactly cheap |
| 22:11.00 | jacekowski | Arif_: i mean - you can get from east to west for like £30 |
| 22:11.13 | RurouniJones | If you don't mind being abused by Ryanair |
| 22:11.13 | Arif_ | NL>TR is like 200 euro in the summer |
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| 22:11.21 | jacekowski | if you are flexible on dates |
| 22:11.35 | jacekowski | Arif_: can you be more precise |
| 22:11.56 | Arif_ | Holland>Turkey is like 200+ euro in the summer period |
| 22:12.11 | Arif_ | thats not what I call cheap |
| 22:12.14 | jacekowski | well |
| 22:12.23 | jacekowski | according to skyscanner it's 200 |
| 22:12.31 | jacekowski | but for return ticket |
| 22:12.40 | jacekowski | so it works out 100 for nl>tr |
| 22:13.13 | Arif_ | hmm, guess its different here |
| 22:13.28 | RurouniJones | Right, orf to work. For those interested, enjoy the freefall research page: http://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/carkeet.html |
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| 22:14.18 | Arif_ | have fun =} |
| 22:14.30 | jacekowski | use skyscanner |
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| 22:15.54 | jacekowski | lowest price £89 for 21 jun |
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| 22:16.14 | jacekowski | 15 jun |
| 22:16.28 | jacekowski | 15jun |
| 22:16.48 | Arif_ | one way is 150 on June 22 |
| 22:16.54 | Arif_ | return was near 300 |
| 22:17.01 | Arif_ | guess its cheaper there =} |
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| 22:17.21 | Arif_ | plans on leaving somewhere in that week |
| 22:17.31 | jacekowski | i've been in france last week |
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| 22:19.34 | Arif_ | I've been in France once |
| 22:19.40 | Arif_ | I didn't really like it...={ |
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| 22:22.16 | corecode_ | lots of frenchmen, eh |
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| 22:48.06 | ShadowJK | whoah |
| 22:48.16 | ShadowJK | N900 acquired lock in place where sirfstarIII doesn't :) |
| 22:48.45 | haltdef | win? |
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| 23:10.53 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: heh - I guess with A though |
| 23:13.12 | ShadowJK | yes |
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| 23:15.29 | DocScrutinizer | actually sirfstar-III was top of the pile ~2 years (iirc) ago, meanwhile other chipsets are on par or even better |
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| 23:16.28 | ShadowJK | it's a nice benchmark |
| 23:16.37 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 23:22.24 | noobmonk3y | prods Khertan |
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| 23:33.24 | DocScrutinizer | noobmonk3y: he seems rather pissed |
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| 23:34.11 | noobmonk3y | :( |
| 23:34.15 | noobmonk3y | and not here :) |
| 23:34.39 | DocScrutinizer | not here? |
| 23:34.50 | noobmonk3y | well he isnt replying :D |
| 23:34.54 | DocScrutinizer | define "here" |
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| 23:35.06 | noobmonk3y | talking to me, he may be in another #room lol |
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| 23:47.44 | Funnyface | when the N900 is in standby mode, is the screen supposed to be completely black, or is there a way to just turn off the backlight? |
| 23:48.30 | pupnik | interesting question |
| 23:48.54 | pupnik | is n900 screen viewable without backlight in sunlight? |
| 23:49.01 | GAN900 | Yes |
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| 23:55.49 | massoud | Hi there |
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