| 00:00.01 | *** join/#maemo theworldofbrad (~bradcarra@bas4-hamilton14-1096566703.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 00:01.01 | ptl | good times. And the Nokia 7710 even had flash. (iPad hasn't) |
| 00:01.49 | *** part/#maemo theworldofbrad (~bradcarra@bas4-hamilton14-1096566703.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 00:09.33 | *** join/#maemo Mozillion (~paul@target.ipv6.spacelabs.nl) |
| 00:12.36 | *** join/#maemo Andy80 (~andy80@Maemo/community/contributor/Andy80) |
| 00:12.45 | Andy80 | hi |
| 00:13.29 | ifreq | lo |
| 00:14.25 | Andy80 | yes, we really need am hildonized xchat :) |
| 00:15.32 | SpeedEvil | That woudl be nice. |
| 00:15.35 | SpeedEvil | Plz do. |
| 00:15.55 | zerojay | What are you waiting for? Get to work. ;) |
| 00:18.46 | SpeedEvil | If you succeed, I will buy you a GPS upgrade kit! |
| 00:18.49 | Andy80 | lol :p |
| 00:18.53 | SpeedEvil | http://dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2876 |
| 00:19.17 | Andy80 | I'm not so skilled with gtk ui |
| 00:19.36 | DocScrutinizer | what's "hildonized xchat" please? |
| 00:20.01 | SpeedEvil | presumably one that scrolls nicely |
| 00:20.10 | SpeedEvil | some of the menus are less insane to use |
| 00:20.15 | SpeedEvil | ... |
| 00:20.32 | DocScrutinizer | [2010-02-06 14:07:33] <DocScrutinizer51> RST38h: big master of xchat mods, how about less crome to shrink the input textfield (almost 2 lines hight now), removing the dangerous chantab close [X}, and ##make scrollbutton hotarea MUUUCH LARGER## ? Earn further eternal merits :-) |
| 00:20.51 | DocScrutinizer | would suffice for me, for now |
| 00:21.56 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 00:22.16 | SpeedEvil | chantab close? |
| 00:22.56 | SpeedEvil | smaller input area would be good. |
| 00:23.01 | DocScrutinizer | I have channel-tree o n left side. n left lower there's a "[X]" to close the current chan subwin |
| 00:23.11 | SpeedEvil | you can turn that off |
| 00:23.14 | SpeedEvil | it's in prefs |
| 00:23.17 | DocScrutinizer | how? |
| 00:23.27 | SpeedEvil | vi ~/.xc... |
| 00:23.32 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 00:23.57 | SpeedEvil | I also want what pidgin can do. |
| 00:24.34 | DocScrutinizer | I want waht pidgin can't do |
| 00:25.36 | DocScrutinizer | pidgin is abyssmal crap. what is it, it can do and xchat can't? |
| 00:25.50 | SpeedEvil | http://www.mauve.plus.com/pidgin.gif |
| 00:26.08 | SpeedEvil | aliased channel names with short names |
| 00:26.30 | DocScrutinizer | k |
| 00:28.02 | DocScrutinizer | any searchstring for mod-o-fy .../xchat.conf? |
| 00:28.26 | SpeedEvil | hango |
| 00:28.33 | DocScrutinizer | I mean, that's 175 lines |
| 00:28.36 | *** join/#maemo myosound (~myosound@173-13-200-50-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 00:29.12 | SpeedEvil | gui_quit_dialog? |
| 00:29.18 | SpeedEvil | set to 0 here |
| 00:30.57 | DocScrutinizer | doesn't sound quite right, anyway I'll give it a try |
| 00:32.54 | *** join/#maemo radic_ (~radic@p4FDA81A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 00:33.24 | *** join/#maemo Docscrutemp (~Joerg_rw@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 00:33.46 | parolang | <-- ERC FTW :) |
| 00:33.54 | DocScrutinizer | what I suspected. That is for quit-app-query "do you really want to leave?" |
| 00:34.51 | SpeedEvil | Sorry. |
| 00:35.04 | SpeedEvil | It's a side-effect of picking 'tree mode' channel list |
| 00:35.20 | *** join/#maemo trem (~trem@mol92-1-81-57-136-23.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 00:35.27 | SpeedEvil | (which I find takes up - with channels shortened to 4 chars - less room) |
| 00:35.32 | DocScrutinizer | the [X] ? |
| 00:35.44 | SpeedEvil | The [X] dissapearing |
| 00:35.51 | SpeedEvil | tree mode has no such button |
| 00:36.21 | DocScrutinizer | hmm when I tested it there was something odd with it - can't remember what though |
| 00:36.29 | SpeedEvil | wfm |
| 00:37.06 | *** join/#maemo Docscrutemp (~Joerg_rw@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 00:40.20 | DocScrutinizer | hmm I guess it's been the "#maemo" vs "#maemo-devel", and "#openmoko" vs "#openmoko-cdevel" wich makes me grant it more space than the centered can-name text in tabs list |
| 00:40.53 | DocScrutinizer | so yes, chan aliases are really useful I guess |
| 00:43.09 | *** join/#maemo geaaru (~geaaru@95.232.227.117) |
| 00:43.38 | DocScrutinizer51 | still I think I'll learn to love it, when the previous tablist with (X) is the alternative |
| 00:44.09 | SpeedEvil | hildon has some breakages in some cases |
| 00:44.14 | SpeedEvil | forex fbreader |
| 00:44.26 | SpeedEvil | you can't use the device inverted in portrait mode sanely |
| 00:45.01 | SpeedEvil | as the 'popup menu' appears in the top-left corner when you pagedown - which is somewhat annoyinhg |
| 00:45.28 | DocScrutinizer | errr? |
| 00:45.44 | *** join/#maemo vanadismobile (~user@84-75-177-47.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 00:46.14 | SpeedEvil | inverted portrait - when you want the USB charging cable going down |
| 00:46.29 | DocScrutinizer | with xchat? |
| 00:46.34 | SpeedEvil | no |
| 00:46.38 | SpeedEvil | with fbreader |
| 00:46.39 | SpeedEvil | sorry |
| 00:48.00 | *** join/#maemo Arkenoi (~ark@81.200.10.94) |
| 00:48.11 | ifreq | what does n900 use as sound device? |
| 00:48.15 | *** join/#maemo _Lucretia_ (~munkee@pdpc/supporter/active/lucretia) |
| 00:48.17 | *** join/#maemo angasule (~angasule@190.176.237.196) |
| 00:48.21 | ShadowJK | what do you mean with that question |
| 00:48.26 | DocScrutinizer | on lowest level: alsa |
| 00:48.28 | ifreq | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:48.51 | DocScrutinizer | ifreq: you're sure about that? |
| 00:49.00 | ifreq | okay. i still cant figure out my problem. built an app (mp3blaster) it works with the deb i built. doesnt work when its build with garage |
| 00:49.10 | ifreq | so im quite puzzled atm :( |
| 00:49.58 | ShadowJK | build-dep on pulse-dev libalsa-dev and stuff? |
| 00:50.02 | ShadowJK | whatever the real names are |
| 00:50.16 | *** join/#maemo Sargun (~Sargun@atarack/Staff/Sargun) |
| 00:50.31 | DocScrutinizer | ifreq: I don't think there is (or if there actually is then whether you should use) /dev/dsp alike OSS soundsystem emu |
| 00:50.39 | ifreq | hmm ok will look into them |
| 00:50.41 | ifreq | yeah |
| 00:51.08 | ifreq | just strange it builds locally OK package but via garage .. yeah it prob misses something |
| 00:51.09 | ShadowJK | The autobuilder basically doesn't give you anything installed by default |
| 00:51.16 | ifreq | ah |
| 00:51.20 | SpeedEvil | Okaaaay. |
| 00:51.26 | ifreq | bbl then. need to fix stuff |
| 00:51.27 | trem | nite all, sweet dreams |
| 00:51.39 | SpeedEvil | First unmap original function of ctrl-q before trying to add new. |
| 00:52.06 | *** join/#maemo N900evil (~Speedevil@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 00:52.47 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: seems your topics are a little jumpy, no? :-) |
| 00:53.21 | DocScrutinizer | Or I'm below par on keeping up with your thoughts today |
| 00:53.31 | SpeedEvil | see above quit |
| 00:53.53 | SpeedEvil | I was trying to map complete nick to ctrl-q |
| 00:54.10 | ShadowJK | has it mapped to shift-space in xchat |
| 00:54.33 | DocScrutinizer | no quit here. maybe caused by "filter join/quit msgs"? |
| 00:54.41 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 00:54.55 | *** join/#maemo dracflamloc (~dracflaml@adsl-243-112-118.sav.bellsouth.net) |
| 00:55.30 | DocScrutinizer | so it's not me :-) pfffeww |
| 00:57.00 | DocScrutinizer | reminds me to remap nick completion to the unused shift-space |
| 00:58.05 | *** join/#maemo N900evil (~Speedevil@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 00:58.59 | *** join/#maemo satmd|n900 (~satmd@91-115-67-84.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 00:59.18 | satmd|n900 | finally. :) |
| 01:00.33 | ptl | *envious* |
| 01:00.45 | satmd | why? |
| 01:01.40 | ptl | because my n900 is still not here |
| 01:01.54 | ptl | I only have the emulated scratchbox environment. |
| 01:02.02 | ptl | two weeks and a half since I bought it |
| 01:02.11 | *** join/#maemo benh (~benh@54.200.49.122-static.velocitynet.com.au) |
| 01:02.18 | ShadowJK | perpetually out of stock :( |
| 01:02.53 | ptl | 3 or 4 days to get to my country |
| 01:02.53 | DocScrutinizer | k, bat @ 28% after 6h of UMTS & IRC |
| 01:02.55 | ptl | not because it's out of stock |
| 01:02.57 | ptl | the rest of time in the customes agency |
| 01:03.14 | Arkenoi | i get constant problems with mouse click from flash |
| 01:03.23 | Arkenoi | most of the time it just does not work at all |
| 01:03.31 | ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer, how many chans/active is that? |
| 01:04.04 | dracflamloc | ptl: i just got mine yesterday, im loving it |
| 01:04.05 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:04.42 | ptl | aaaaaah :( |
| 01:04.50 | DocScrutinizer | [2010-02-07 02:03:49] [Whois] DocScrutinizer51 hat Benutzerstatus in den Kanälen: #gta02-core #maemo #maemo-devel #neo1973-germany #openmoko #openmoko-cdevel |
| 01:04.53 | ptl | I'm anxious as hell |
| 01:05.06 | dracflamloc | i bet |
| 01:05.10 | dracflamloc | i was too |
| 01:05.55 | ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer, odd, it showed me maemo and mer only :P |
| 01:06.05 | Arkenoi | tried to play tower defence and could not build any towers :-( |
| 01:06.07 | ShadowJK | probably only chans we're both in. |
| 01:06.34 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: hmm, might relate to some chan set "invisible" or somesuch |
| 01:06.51 | ShadowJK | i suspect freenode treats all chans as +s for whois |
| 01:07.25 | DocScrutinizer | or there is a user mode to set this |
| 01:07.30 | DocScrutinizer | dunno |
| 01:08.33 | ShadowJK | manages to pose the question whether N900 has colomb counting or voltage crap in a bugzilla comment :D |
| 01:09.00 | DocScrutinizer | hrhrr |
| 01:09.24 | ShadowJK | so like, freerunner had a chip in the battery, but also worked fine on nokia batteries, I guess the battery meter (if any) didn't work with nokia batteries? |
| 01:09.33 | Matthew- | oi guys, you know the podcast thingy? |
| 01:09.45 | ShadowJK | gpodder? |
| 01:09.48 | Matthew- | Can I get the podcasts from Itunes there? |
| 01:09.49 | Matthew- | ShadowJK: yeah |
| 01:09.59 | ShadowJK | dunno about itunes |
| 01:10.50 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: that's been addressed to me? |
| 01:12.58 | ShadowJK | not particulary, but there has been some freerunner users here in the past atleast, would've been interesting if anyone had tried it with nokia batteries |
| 01:13.12 | DocScrutinizer | sure |
| 01:13.58 | DocScrutinizer | we even made a kernel module to have semi-decent 'battery-voltage crap" with nokia BL-xC |
| 01:14.25 | ShadowJK | ah :-) |
| 01:14.27 | DocScrutinizer | the bq27k CC chip resides in the GTA02 smart battery |
| 01:15.05 | N900evil | hmm |
| 01:15.33 | DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Battery_Questions_and_Answers |
| 01:15.59 | N900evil | f7/8 are scroll buttons. unfortunately shift-lock does not act like shift is pressed |
| 01:16.32 | N900evil | trying to get it to scroll up/down after caps lock turned on |
| 01:16.38 | *** join/#maemo benh (~benh@54.200.49.122-static.velocitynet.com.au) |
| 01:16.45 | DocScrutinizer | wonders how SpeedEvil is goinf to press F7/8 on N900 |
| 01:17.50 | ShadowJK | hm.. "noisy measuring of battery current" on gta01 |
| 01:18.17 | Damion2 | qemu took 4* as long to decode an mp3 to wav than native |
| 01:18.38 | Damion2 | that's pretty promising |
| 01:19.13 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: I'm not 100% sure this is correct |
| 01:19.21 | Damion2 | ace_solitaire was significantly faster emulated locally than X forwarded |
| 01:19.57 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: actually current *is* noisy. Probably you just get a momentary value when reading the current |
| 01:19.57 | N900evil | f7/8 are scroll buttons. unfortunately shift-lock does not act like shift is pressed |
| 01:20.37 | DocScrutinizer | wonders how SpeedEvil is goinf to press F7/8 on N900 |
| 01:20.42 | DocScrutinizer | :-P |
| 01:20.52 | ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer, yeah I'd imagine it'd be something like a soc's gpio/ADC over a sense resistor? |
| 01:20.54 | N900evil | f7/8 are zoom buttons. |
| 01:21.03 | N900evil | oops |
| 01:21.13 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: yup |
| 01:21.36 | ShadowJK | must now find the sauce for that "voltage crap" module, it's porn |
| 01:22.14 | DocScrutinizer | it's built in to the PCF50606 PMU chip, but nevertheless I guess it's not smart enough to do an average over the last say 10sec |
| 01:22.46 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: any hints? :-D |
| 01:24.46 | *** join/#maemo DerSaidin (~dersaidin@CPE-121-208-163-64.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au) |
| 01:24.46 | *** join/#maemo DerSaidin (~dersaidin@pdpc/supporter/student/dersaidin) |
| 01:24.59 | GAN900 | DocScrutinizer, volume keys are bound to that. |
| 01:25.09 | DocScrutinizer | aaaaah |
| 01:25.20 | DocScrutinizer | thanks GAN900 |
| 01:25.55 | N900evil | shift-up/down bound to pgup/dn makes sense |
| 01:26.08 | DocScrutinizer | coool |
| 01:26.37 | DocScrutinizer | ouch, broke my fingers :-P |
| 01:27.23 | DocScrutinizer | muhahaha, "internal error, xchat closed" |
| 01:28.11 | *** join/#maemo Docscrutemp (~Joerg_rw@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 01:30.03 | N900evil | Sha, |
| 01:30.13 | N900evil | hmm |
| 01:30.40 | N900evil | sha: |
| 01:30.49 | N900evil | sha, |
| 01:30.54 | N900evil | oops |
| 01:31.47 | dracflamloc | lol |
| 01:32.17 | dracflamloc | so... whats the 'best' app/game/whatever everyone recommends for the n900? |
| 01:33.05 | N900evil | vi |
| 01:33.23 | DocScrutinizer | less |
| 01:33.45 | DocScrutinizer | or maybe bash :-P |
| 01:33.53 | Damion2 | tower toppler |
| 01:34.29 | *** join/#maemo bleader (~bleader@teenapping.lalooz.com) |
| 01:34.57 | Damion2 | N900evil: have you done those pgup/dn mappings? |
| 01:35.45 | dracflamloc | haha |
| 01:35.51 | dracflamloc | ok besides the normal linux stuff |
| 01:40.08 | DocScrutinizer | N900evil: ...or have you killed your xchat by pressing shift-leftVol, like I did? :-) |
| 01:41.11 | *** join/#maemo penguinbait (~mlewis@c-98-209-247-133.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 01:41.29 | ShadowJK | anyone with sparetime/sparemotivation to write a energysaving irc bouncer? :P |
| 01:42.47 | DocScrutinizer | make that a proxy. |
| 01:43.09 | SpeedEvil | Damion2: yes |
| 01:43.16 | SpeedEvil | Damion2: works well |
| 01:43.34 | SpeedEvil | Damion2: and shift-right to complete |
| 01:43.42 | Damion2 | yeah me too |
| 01:43.44 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: you did that just via the settings/keymappings? |
| 01:43.53 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: yes. |
| 01:44.15 | Damion2 | oh, I edited some complex config file |
| 01:44.16 | DocScrutinizer | with shiftlock? |
| 01:44.20 | SpeedEvil | annoyingly, you can't map blue-shifts |
| 01:44.42 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: no - it doesn't work with shiftlock - as it looks at the state of teh key, not the logical state of the key |
| 01:44.49 | SpeedEvil | or something |
| 01:44.58 | SpeedEvil | but holding down shift is possible |
| 01:45.16 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, you'd probably have to tweak xmodmap (or whatever it's called) to map blue-F7/8 |
| 01:45.16 | SpeedEvil | I was initially thinking of using the zoombuttons - for which holding down shift is awkward |
| 01:46.02 | Damion2 | where do I get sshfs and is fuse built in? |
| 01:46.21 | DocScrutinizer | hmmm |
| 01:48.46 | *** join/#maemo gunni_ (~quassel@xdsl-81-173-235-34.netcologne.de) |
| 01:48.53 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: (hold shift) <quote> [2010-02-07 02:26:36] <DocScrutinizer> ouch, broke my fingers :-P </quote> |
| 01:51.35 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: on a different topic: was that you who complained about the original white breathing light having too long a pause time to spot it at a glance? |
| 01:57.01 | N900evil | maybe |
| 01:57.40 | N900evil | I think I more wasn't seeinb the point in it at all |
| 01:58.27 | N900evil | on xchat - shift-0 to channel 1 is very handy. |
| 02:00.44 | DocScrutinizer | curses his äöü kbd |
| 02:01.50 | N900evil | ah |
| 02:03.43 | *** join/#maemo mardi__ (~mardi_@95.141.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 02:03.47 | *** join/#maemo bleeter (~bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 02:05.33 | DocScrutinizer | 21% after 10h |
| 02:06.11 | ShadowJK | wait what? what was it at 6h.. |
| 02:06.23 | ShadowJK | and how come your umts irc is draining battery like my edge irc... |
| 02:06.56 | ShadowJK | to be fair, whenever I enable 3g mode with xchat open, it stays at 3.5g hsdpa all of the time :/ |
| 02:07.53 | DocScrutinizer | sorry, after 7h |
| 02:09.43 | ShadowJK | wonders if the voltageguestimate thing knows about current consumption |
| 02:09.49 | DocScrutinizer | still mostly 3G here |
| 02:10.26 | DocScrutinizer | doesn't seem so, according to lshal |
| 02:10.42 | DocScrutinizer | iirc |
| 02:10.46 | *** join/#maemo ph1l (~ph1l@228-226.62-188.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 02:11.12 | ShadowJK | yeah well, current consumption isn't in lshal on N8x0 either |
| 02:11.44 | ShadowJK | but the hardware actually measures it good enough that you can make your own colomb counter in userspace |
| 02:12.27 | ShadowJK | 1sec sampling interval ghetto mA counting seems to stay 10% accurate for half a week or so, too :-) |
| 02:16.49 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: actually I'd expect the omap PMU should know about current consumption |
| 02:18.06 | ShadowJK | I've seen some unrealistic "corrections" |
| 02:19.07 | ShadowJK | which kinda make me think it's unaware of current consumption, and just has a voltage window treating peaks as unloaded voltage |
| 02:20.23 | DocScrutinizer | That's what I deduced from the capacity readings, yes |
| 02:21.08 | ShadowJK | I guess the hw can measure current, but can't count it |
| 02:21.44 | DocScrutinizer | but the guessometer not knowing or caring about actual current consumption doesn't mean you can't accuire this reading from any of the PMU registers |
| 02:21.57 | DocScrutinizer | exactly |
| 02:22.05 | *** join/#maemo norayr (~noch@81.16.4.175) |
| 02:22.39 | ShadowJK | I'm running shit that keeps the CPU awake most of the time anyway, adding a charge counter running on the CPU would be small batterylife hit for me :( |
| 02:25.00 | *** join/#maemo `0660_ (~olli@ppp121-45-208-174.lns20.cbr1.internode.on.net) |
| 02:27.51 | *** join/#maemo crashanddie (~slauwers@60-241-211-180.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 02:27.51 | *** join/#maemo crashanddie (~slauwers@Maemo/community/contributor/crashanddie) |
| 02:28.22 | DocScrutinizer | hrhrr haha. bat low warning. 0% |
| 02:31.08 | ShadowJK | from what percentage did it jump to 0? :-) |
| 02:31.54 | DocScrutinizer | [2010-02-07 03:05:32] <DocScrutinizer> 21% after 7h [edit] |
| 02:32.58 | *** part/#maemo levity (~levity@unaffiliated/canuck) |
| 02:34.49 | *** join/#maemo post_j (~poster@75-1-214-255.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:43.23 | *** join/#maemo JamieBen1ett (~jamie@5ac8845e.bb.sky.com) |
| 02:46.42 | *** join/#maemo _Lucretia__ (~munkee@5ac2a28d.bb.sky.com) |
| 02:51.32 | *** join/#maemo ml-mobile (~wat@c-98-208-76-211.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:57.16 | dracflamloc | have any of you tried jagged alliance 2 on n900? |
| 03:03.35 | *** join/#maemo DerSaidin (~dersaidin@CPE-121-208-163-64.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au) |
| 03:03.35 | *** join/#maemo DerSaidin (~dersaidin@pdpc/supporter/student/dersaidin) |
| 03:09.54 | *** join/#maemo `0660 (~olli@ppp121-45-207-124.lns20.cbr1.internode.on.net) |
| 03:09.55 | *** join/#maemo pcfe (~pcfe@a88-115-2-212.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 03:09.56 | *** join/#maemo pcfe (~pcfe@redhat/pcfe) |
| 03:11.44 | *** join/#maemo MistaED (~alex@123-243-195-174.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 03:13.09 | *** join/#maemo Docscrutemp (~Joerg_rw@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 03:17.16 | *** join/#maemo benh (~benh@54.200.49.122-static.velocitynet.com.au) |
| 03:17.50 | dracflamloc | erm |
| 03:17.59 | dracflamloc | why does my n900 tell me its fully charged, but its really at 90% |
| 03:18.04 | timeless | jebba: ping |
| 03:18.17 | timeless | drac: =~ s/its/it's/ |
| 03:20.13 | timeless | jebba: can you give me space on mas:/dev/vdh1 ? |
| 03:20.48 | timeless | (or anything w/ a couple of gigs of space, / doesn't even have 1gb) |
| 03:21.26 | *** join/#maemo Rhoruns_ (Rhoruns@ip98-165-95-29.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 03:22.02 | crashanddie | dracflamloc: battery protection? |
| 03:22.28 | dracflamloc | ? |
| 03:23.58 | ShadowJK | I think the battery charger and the battery meter are mostly unaware of eachother |
| 03:26.58 | *** join/#maemo simula (~mark@c-24-16-132-121.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 03:30.48 | timeless | is rarely told that the battery is charged |
| 03:31.17 | timeless | dracflamloc: how do you decide that it's @90% and what makes you think that the n900 told you it was fully charged? |
| 03:32.06 | dracflamloc | well |
| 03:32.16 | dracflamloc | the status light turned white while it was plugged in |
| 03:32.29 | dracflamloc | so i unplug, and the 'batlevel' program shows 90% |
| 03:32.47 | timeless | thought 'green' meant fully charged.. |
| 03:33.04 | ShadowJK | i think the white is "charger not connected, device alive" |
| 03:33.09 | ShadowJK | pulsating white |
| 03:33.12 | dracflamloc | hm |
| 03:33.15 | ShadowJK | dunno what constant white is |
| 03:33.32 | dracflamloc | man i just got this thing yesterday and already im worried about messing up that usb port |
| 03:33.48 | timeless | if it's fully charged, it will say so w/ text on the screen... |
| 03:33.57 | dracflamloc | i hear that some have grinded down the nubs on the charger/usb cable. |
| 03:33.57 | timeless | (when it's not screen locked) |
| 03:33.58 | dracflamloc | ah |
| 03:34.06 | dracflamloc | i think it was screen locked tho |
| 03:37.14 | ShadowJK | The N900 always runs on battery, once it's charged it'll be draining the battery until the charge level drops sufficiently to restart charging |
| 03:37.31 | timeless | anyway, it sound like you randomly guessed at the color scheme |
| 03:37.34 | ShadowJK | Theoretically you could keep the charger always on, keeping it constantly fully charged, but this is very hard on the battery |
| 03:37.37 | timeless | and then accused it of lying |
| 03:37.44 | dracflamloc | uhm |
| 03:37.44 | timeless | which is probably not the best way to go about things |
| 03:37.48 | dracflamloc | forgive me? |
| 03:38.02 | timeless | sure, but piece of advice: next time, ask what the colors mean :) |
| 03:38.19 | dracflamloc | since your timeless i guess you've not made assumptions with that timeless wisdom ;) |
| 03:38.48 | timeless | =~ s/your/you're/ |
| 03:38.56 | ShadowJK | timeless: there's actually a bug on bugzilla complaining about full != 100% ;) |
| 03:39.18 | timeless | shadowjk: i can't say i'm surprised :) |
| 03:39.27 | dracflamloc | ah ha! |
| 03:39.38 | ShadowJK | Those batlevel things should probably have an option to filter the raw values in order not to confuse users :) |
| 03:39.48 | dracflamloc | heh |
| 03:40.09 | timeless | no |
| 03:40.16 | dracflamloc | well lets just say that the n900 is the first of all the devices i've ever had, to not show 100% in 'raw' values when the charger says its fully charged |
| 03:40.18 | timeless | odds are the raw values are more confusing ;-) |
| 03:41.06 | timeless | i still want to know how you decided it thought it was fully charged |
| 03:41.16 | timeless | it sure doesn't sound like you got the text message saying that |
| 03:41.32 | ShadowJK | dracflamloc, one popular method is to say full when charge reaches 70%, and silently continue charge in background, because the last 30% take a really long time... |
| 03:41.34 | dracflamloc | the screen was locked |
| 03:41.37 | timeless | there's a second text message that tells you to unplug the charger |
| 03:41.52 | dracflamloc | anyway |
| 03:42.08 | timeless | drac: we've already indicated that white is basically 'i'm alive and wasting power' |
| 03:42.19 | dracflamloc | yes |
| 03:42.22 | timeless | '(but my screen is dark, that's why i'm white)' |
| 03:42.59 | ShadowJK | wonders if timeless has slept |
| 03:43.08 | timeless | not recently |
| 03:43.12 | luke-jr | timeless: huh? isn't white the least power-consuming? |
| 03:43.16 | timeless | yesterday i was waiting to throw up |
| 03:43.31 | timeless | luke: powered off wastes less power |
| 03:43.32 | ShadowJK | luke-jr, the most power-consuming I think? |
| 03:43.40 | luke-jr | timeless: well, yeah... :P |
| 03:43.45 | timeless | and no, it isn't wasting 0 |
| 03:43.58 | timeless | removing the battery will probably waste less |
| 03:44.03 | ShadowJK | white takes more power to produce than red I think? |
| 03:44.10 | timeless | and again, probably technically still >0 |
| 03:44.15 | luke-jr | ShadowJK: IIRC, white is the default of LCD |
| 03:44.27 | ShadowJK | luke-jr, not the LED though |
| 03:44.48 | luke-jr | ... |
| 03:45.04 | dracflamloc | wow jagged alliance data folder is 10,000 files |
| 03:45.18 | dracflamloc | guess i should tar those and untar them right on the phone |
| 03:45.32 | ShadowJK | They're usually 3 led's on a single die/package, red green blue.. all 3 needed to produce white |
| 03:45.49 | ShadowJK | and not white led with a 1-pixel large LCD infront |
| 03:46.37 | *** join/#maemo rm_you (~rm_you@pool-173-74-78-231.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 03:47.52 | timeless | you need two /'s if you want root |
| 03:47.56 | timeless | it's documented somewhere |
| 03:48.01 | timeless | oops |
| 03:48.08 | ShadowJK | Oh you mean white on the screen, not status light, consuming least power? |
| 03:48.31 | ShadowJK | yeah... on SmartQ7 you can turn off LCD but keep backlight.. the screen fades to white :D |
| 03:49.54 | *** join/#maemo JoeBrain (~JoeBrain@c-98-234-56-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 03:58.00 | *** join/#maemo `0660 (~olli@ppp121-45-199-123.lns20.cbr1.internode.on.net) |
| 04:04.32 | *** join/#maemo Moku (~John@f048008037.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 04:06.09 | *** join/#maemo dockane (~dockane@f054215241.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 04:07.54 | *** join/#maemo hardaker (~hardaker@mail.hardakers.net) |
| 04:14.06 | *** join/#maemo EspadaV8_L (~espadav8@unaffiliated/espadav8) |
| 04:14.11 | *** join/#maemo promulo (~romulo@189.71.118.41) |
| 04:16.47 | SpeedEvil | ShadowJK: yeah - there are three LEDs in one little package. The blue is probably the most efficient in terms of light output per unit of power in - but the eye sucks at blue. green or red are probably slightly more efficient. in practice - an equal brightness of light will probably use more or less the same power to within 50% |
| 04:16.55 | *** join/#maemo akshey (~aksheyjaw@121.242.23.197) |
| 04:16.56 | SpeedEvil | whatever the colour |
| 04:17.53 | ShadowJK | awesome |
| 04:18.03 | ShadowJK | now explain why people pimp their cars with blue headlights |
| 04:18.09 | ShadowJK | ;) |
| 04:18.16 | SpeedEvil | 'cause they're ass-hats. |
| 04:18.40 | ShadowJK | :) |
| 04:18.52 | SpeedEvil | More seriously - HID lights - are considerably more efficient and produce more light output per watt. And it's a better light to see with. |
| 04:18.54 | SpeedEvil | But. |
| 04:18.57 | ShadowJK | I was expecting rayleigh and what not, but that's good enough |
| 04:19.11 | SpeedEvil | Unless very carefully adjusted - they can dazzle other drivers badly. |
| 04:19.44 | *** join/#maemo axon (~paul@97.100.235.191) |
| 04:19.49 | *** part/#maemo axon (~paul@97.100.235.191) |
| 04:19.53 | SpeedEvil | Even in some cases if they are carefully and properly adjusted - and an unlucky road layout |
| 04:21.10 | *** join/#maemo danny (~danny@adsl-75-63-188-9.dsl.skt2ca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:21.13 | danny | hi |
| 04:21.18 | ShadowJK | I remember when yellow was pop |
| 04:21.43 | crashanddie | oh man, yellow lights sucked |
| 04:22.10 | SpeedEvil | Reterofitted lights need lots of clue to work right. |
| 04:22.23 | danny | i need help |
| 04:22.25 | crashanddie | for some reason, in Belgium, the surface of the roads had a specific property that when it rained and you were in a car that had yellow lights, the whole road would light up |
| 04:22.36 | SpeedEvil | danny: With? |
| 04:22.50 | danny | math |
| 04:22.55 | crashanddie | danny: wrong channel |
| 04:22.55 | SpeedEvil | danny: Do you have a man-eating lump of animated cheese hammering at your window trying to kill you? |
| 04:23.07 | danny | no |
| 04:24.00 | crashanddie | BTW, guys |
| 04:24.14 | crashanddie | you don't think it's interesting we don't have an explanation of Maemo is in our topic? |
| 04:24.32 | ShadowJK | not enough room |
| 04:24.32 | SpeedEvil | not really. |
| 04:27.55 | *** join/#maemo lpotter_ (~quiggly@CPE-58-173-176-153.wucz1.woo.bigpond.net.au) |
| 04:38.48 | crashanddie | Uploading 1.5gig worth of photos to flickr on the hotel wifi maybe wasn't such a good idea after all |
| 04:39.05 | luke-jr | ..... |
| 04:41.22 | crashanddie | I don't know why I'm reminded of this discussion I had with a University system admin |
| 04:42.03 | crashanddie | He explained that in order to make sure that all large uploads to their FTPs/whatever sharing service it was, people were recommended to download the file again, and make sure that the old file had the same hash as the new one |
| 04:42.47 | crashanddie | A couple of months after I'd raised my concerns, I saw the guy again, and asked him: "So how's that whole double-upload/download working out for ya?" |
| 04:43.23 | crashanddie | The answer was unique, and I'll never forget it: "I was fired last month after they received the bandwidth usage statistics" |
| 04:45.59 | derf | Maybe I'm confused. If they didn't have the bandwidth for people to download something after they uploaded it, what was the point of having an FTP to begin with? |
| 04:47.07 | *** join/#maemo ssvb (~ssvb___@a88-112-120-50.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 04:47.26 | crashanddie | Oh my bad, forgot to mention a pretty important point: upload was internal, download was external |
| 04:47.52 | *** join/#maemo benh (~benh@54.200.49.122-static.velocitynet.com.au) |
| 04:48.45 | crashanddie | which it obviously wasn't supposed to be |
| 04:50.44 | *** join/#maemo alexj_ (~alexj@c-98-248-142-214.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:51.52 | *** join/#maemo jabis (~jabis@69.162.91.23) |
| 04:58.31 | DocScrutinizer | weird |
| 05:01.20 | DocScrutinizer | sighs and points to backscroll of this very channel while reading about battery-at-90% |
| 05:04.45 | dracflamloc | hm |
| 05:05.15 | dracflamloc | so whats the actual path to the "n900" and microsd card from terminal? |
| 05:06.32 | DocScrutinizer | N900 is /home/user/MyDocs |
| 05:06.54 | *** join/#maemo qwer (~madtop@c-24-14-243-237.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 05:07.29 | DocScrutinizer | uSD probably something like /media/card or /mnt or sth |
| 05:07.40 | qwer | will multitouch work with maemo's google maps? |
| 05:07.58 | DocScrutinizer | which multitouch? |
| 05:08.09 | qwer | oh n900 |
| 05:08.14 | dracflamloc | thanks |
| 05:08.27 | DocScrutinizer | N900 has no multitouch |
| 05:08.36 | qwer | I'm comparing nexus one, droid, and maemo - cause I'd prefer OSS, but I want power too |
| 05:08.44 | qwer | ah, thanks docscrutinizer |
| 05:11.19 | DocScrutinizer | dracflamloc: for battery you might find http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Battery_Questions_and_Answers interesting |
| 05:13.14 | *** join/#maemo sheepbat (~lev3k@c-98-238-227-32.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:16.39 | dracflamloc | tx |
| 05:25.52 | dracflamloc | how do i install 'easy debian' |
| 05:26.33 | crashanddie | dracflamloc: GOOGLE |
| 05:26.39 | crashanddie | GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGLEEEEEEEEE |
| 05:26.41 | dracflamloc | yea im trying |
| 05:26.55 | uhsf | what's easy debian? i installed the synergy binary from easy debian but i don't know the purpose of easy debian |
| 05:29.21 | crashanddie | uhsf: easy debian is a chroot allowing you to run all of debian's pre-packaged apps |
| 05:29.29 | *** join/#maemo jabis (~jabis@69.162.91.23) |
| 05:30.08 | dracflamloc | ah i had searched for 'debian' |
| 05:30.10 | dracflamloc | not 'deb' |
| 05:32.32 | *** join/#maemo DocScrutinizer (~jr@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 05:32.39 | dracflamloc | woot, here we go! |
| 05:33.24 | *** join/#maemo Docscrutemp (~Joerg_rw@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 05:46.24 | crashanddie | http://www.flickr.com/photos/slauwers/4336160423/ |
| 05:46.33 | *** join/#maemo alexj_ (~alexj@c-98-248-142-214.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:48.05 | dracflamloc | any of you guys post useful stuff to twitter? |
| 05:48.20 | qwer | twitter is capable of useful content? |
| 05:48.25 | qwer | lol j/k |
| 05:48.35 | dracflamloc | ha |
| 05:48.39 | dracflamloc | yea i know |
| 05:48.41 | dracflamloc | hard to believe |
| 05:49.04 | qwer | there are penty of other resources that work better I'd imagine |
| 05:49.45 | crashanddie | dracflamloc: are you following mwkn? |
| 05:50.34 | crashanddie | http://twitter.com/mwkn |
| 05:50.42 | dracflamloc | nah i only follow a few coders i know so far |
| 05:51.26 | crashanddie | dracflamloc: check it out, it's not too shabby |
| 05:51.37 | dracflamloc | will do |
| 06:46.34 | *** join/#maemo PaulFertser (~PaulFerts@aein-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 06:46.51 | PaulFertser | ShadowJK: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=blob_plain;f=drivers/power/gta01_battery.c;hb=andy-tracking |
| 06:47.29 | luke-jr | PaulFertser: possible to wire that to BME? :P |
| 06:47.31 | luke-jr | err |
| 06:47.35 | luke-jr | to Nxx0 battery* |
| 06:47.36 | luke-jr | :) |
| 06:47.59 | PaulFertser | luke-jr: :))) if there's a way to measure battery voltage somehow (in-kernel), yes. |
| 06:48.52 | Lumpio- | BME o_o |
| 06:55.15 | *** join/#maemo PaulFertser (~PaulFerts@aein-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 06:58.33 | crashanddie | I'm bored |
| 06:58.57 | crashanddie | just came back from work |
| 06:59.42 | crashanddie | asj_: any restaurants you'd recommend for tonight? |
| 07:03.18 | *** join/#maemo droid001 (~g1@p4FDCA5C9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:16.50 | *** join/#maemo N900evil (~Speedevil@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 07:17.33 | *** join/#maemo SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 07:20.05 | *** join/#maemo KaKaRoTo-KS (kakaroto@amsn/developer/kakaroto) |
| 07:29.37 | *** join/#maemo alancio (~Alancio@p22223-ipngn501hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 07:36.39 | dracflamloc | how can you start a debbie-based program without the top-bar from maemo? |
| 07:37.13 | *** join/#maemo swo (~swo@f051095132.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 07:40.17 | *** join/#maemo mfinkle (~mfinkle@81.253.92.65) |
| 07:47.30 | *** join/#maemo mlpug (~mlpug@a88-115-164-40.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 07:54.54 | dracflamloc | anyone home? |
| 07:55.04 | dracflamloc | how do i use 'hardware keys' |
| 07:55.25 | dracflamloc | Select the "Set Debian HW Keys" menu item; wait a bit, then you can press the minus (-) hardware key followed by the "fullscreen" hardware key to toggle fullscreen for any app. |
| 08:09.28 | *** join/#maemo mfinkle (~mfinkle@81.253.92.103) |
| 08:13.01 | *** join/#maemo Dantonic (~david@c-24-7-146-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 08:21.10 | *** join/#maemo djcb (~user@a88-114-93-212.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 08:22.14 | Chiku | any news when new minor firmware will be released? |
| 08:25.11 | *** join/#maemo pillar (~pillar15@cs181189224.pp.htv.fi) |
| 08:27.16 | *** join/#maemo zap_ (~zap@28.169.249.ozerki.net) |
| 08:28.07 | kamui__ | feb 8th |
| 08:28.11 | *** join/#maemo MohammadAG (~Maemohamm@62.219.120.20) |
| 08:31.18 | *** join/#maemo timeless_mbp (~timeless@logilab-paris-7-50.cnt.nerim.net) |
| 08:31.18 | *** join/#maemo timeless_mbp (~timeless@Maemo/community/contributor/timeless) |
| 08:31.20 | *** join/#maemo TomTom_ (~tomtom@109.79.189.240) |
| 08:31.43 | *** join/#maemo Acedip (~ani@fedora/Acedip) |
| 08:40.34 | *** join/#maemo davyg (~davyg@2a01:e35:243c:9250:223:54ff:fe69:226e) |
| 08:42.51 | *** join/#maemo Dantonic (~david@c-24-7-146-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 08:45.57 | *** join/#maemo mfinkle (~mfinkle@2001:6a8:1100:cafe:223:6cff:fe87:2e0e) |
| 08:46.48 | *** join/#maemo pupnik (~pupnik@201-56-191-193.dhcp4.fosdem.net) |
| 08:47.49 | *** join/#maemo pupnik (~pupnik@unaffiliated/pupnik) |
| 08:50.02 | *** join/#maemo Markus23 (~Markus@78.142.180.187) |
| 08:51.17 | Markus23 | How can I authorize/get authorication icq contacts? |
| 08:51.43 | vincentstans | is anyone having canola2 as media player installed ? |
| 08:51.45 | Markus23 | I only see numbers as contacts... |
| 08:52.24 | Markus23 | i have installed the additional codecs |
| 08:52.32 | Markus23 | they work great |
| 08:53.00 | Markus23 | now I can play all videos but one I have here |
| 08:53.23 | vincentstans | the default media player send out a high pitch tone to my stereo canola doesn't do this |
| 08:54.19 | vincentstans | but when listening to a track in canola it sometimes suddenly send a piece of a other track on my phone for 3 or 4 seconds |
| 08:54.35 | vincentstans | really weird |
| 08:55.01 | *** part/#maemo alancio (~Alancio@p22223-ipngn501hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 08:57.25 | *** join/#maemo lbt (~david@Maemo/community/contributor/lbt) |
| 08:57.59 | *** join/#maemo mateus (~mateus@187.64.36.72) |
| 08:59.35 | mateus | hello, I'm trying to test the espeak in maemo more no sound. somebody did? |
| 09:00.03 | Markus23 | anyone uses icq contacts for n900? |
| 09:03.33 | *** join/#maemo voltagex (~voltagex@unaffiliated/voltagex) |
| 09:03.53 | voltagex | Hi, Where does Tasks actually store the tasks database? |
| 09:07.00 | *** join/#maemo fab (~bellet@bellet.info) |
| 09:09.02 | vincentstans | markus23 let me just install icq and retrieve my icq stuff i haven'd use for years ;D |
| 09:11.11 | mateus | someone already successfully tested the espeak? |
| 09:16.07 | *** join/#maemo Aranel (~Aranel@88.252.1.54) |
| 09:16.08 | *** join/#maemo Aranel (~Aranel@unaffiliated/aranel) |
| 09:18.02 | *** join/#maemo akshey (~aksheyjaw@121.242.23.197) |
| 09:18.40 | vincentstans | markus23 what have you installed to use icq ? in conversations or a seperate app |
| 09:19.31 | *** join/#maemo kamui (~KamN900@ip68-11-94-155.no.no.cox.net) |
| 09:19.38 | *** join/#maemo dvoid_ (~dvoid@h213n5-sde-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 09:27.41 | *** join/#maemo tkharju (~tkharju@84-253-196-142.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi) |
| 09:29.27 | *** join/#maemo `0660_ (~olli@ppp121-45-199-130.lns20.cbr1.internode.on.net) |
| 09:34.05 | *** join/#maemo millenomi (~millenomi@93.48.144.193) |
| 09:36.47 | Damion2 | I found with gtalk that I got a quick screen notification to accept contacts, I think if I missed it, it was hard to have the chance again |
| 09:38.01 | crashanddie | I need recommendations for takeaway food tonight |
| 09:38.46 | Damion2 | qemu-i386 ./toppler runs at about 75% ! full sdl app |
| 09:40.22 | *** join/#maemo Meizirkki (~Meizirkki@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-2.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 09:40.43 | Damion2 | it feels more like p120 than 486dx40 some were estimating |
| 09:41.59 | Damion2 | it helps that native kernel and Xorg are involved in much of the work vs full pc h/ware emulation |
| 09:42.24 | *** join/#maemo hrw|n900 (~hrw@128-50-191-193.dhcp4.fosdem.net) |
| 09:42.28 | *** join/#maemo choppa (~chigge@pD95F053F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:43.11 | hrw|n900 | hi |
| 09:44.59 | hrw|n900 | mdbus needs to be in extras |
| 09:45.37 | *** join/#maemo asj_ (~asj@124-171-132-105.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 09:47.16 | ifreq | mourning |
| 09:51.16 | *** join/#maemo mateus (~mateus@187.64.36.72) |
| 09:51.39 | *** join/#maemo wazd (~Miranda@80-240-220-132.dnat.migtel.ru) |
| 09:54.21 | voltagex | Hi, Where does Tasks actually store the tasks database? |
| 09:54.35 | voltagex | calendardb doesn't seem to have it |
| 09:55.43 | voltagex | I stand corrected, there it is. |
| 09:56.23 | *** join/#maemo range (ralph@centos/homeonthe/range) |
| 09:59.15 | *** join/#maemo mariorz (~mariorz@li10-58.members.linode.com) |
| 10:02.31 | asj_ | yawns |
| 10:05.41 | *** join/#maemo Tanuva (~tanuva@p5B10B459.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:05.42 | *** join/#maemo Flyser (~flyser@unaffiliated/flyser) |
| 10:12.42 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 10:12.47 | asj_ | eening |
| 10:14.12 | *** join/#maemo hrw|n900 (~hrw@128-50-191-193.dhcp4.fosdem.net) |
| 10:14.17 | hrw|n900 | re |
| 10:17.22 | Corsac | hmhm, is angry birds available for other handsets? |
| 10:17.31 | Corsac | (n810? other phones from other brands?) |
| 10:18.13 | Jaffa | Corsac: iPhone, IIRC |
| 10:20.25 | *** join/#maemo The_Tall1 (~A@stgt-5f73cbfb.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 10:29.53 | *** join/#maemo wazd (~Miranda@80-240-220-132.dnat.migtel.ru) |
| 10:39.47 | *** join/#maemo Dantonic (~david@c-24-7-146-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:45.01 | *** join/#maemo trem (~trem@mol92-1-81-57-136-23.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:45.09 | asj_ | what is angry birds? |
| 10:45.49 | *** join/#maemo Vanadis (~Vanadis__@84-75-177-47.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 10:46.04 | Jaffa | asj_: Fun little game in the Ovi store |
| 10:46.09 | asj_ | ah ok |
| 10:46.18 | asj_ | there's something useful there? ;) |
| 10:46.21 | Jaffa | asj_: http://store.ovi.com/content/23158?clickSource=browse&contentArea=games |
| 10:46.26 | Jaffa | asj_: That's about it ;-) |
| 10:52.47 | *** join/#maemo andrei1089 (~andrei108@81.18.92.10) |
| 10:53.08 | *** join/#maemo PaulFertser (~PaulFerts@aein-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 10:53.16 | *** join/#maemo pupnik (~pupnik@201-56-191-193.dhcp4.fosdem.net) |
| 10:55.51 | asj_ | lovely, ovi store can't send to my phone |
| 10:59.27 | fragment | asj_: but there is nothing there to send anyway :P |
| 10:59.44 | asj_ | fragment: well, other than angry birds |
| 11:02.51 | *** join/#maemo BabelO (~fcr@unaffiliated/babelo) |
| 11:10.02 | *** join/#maemo Ufoeke (~ufoeke@212.112.59.50) |
| 11:10.34 | *** join/#maemo jpe_ (~jpe@94-224-241-175.access.telenet.be) |
| 11:11.10 | *** join/#maemo Anunakin (~fazzi@189.82.63.225) |
| 11:11.23 | *** join/#maemo LuciusMare (~LuciusMar@187.110.broadband4.iol.cz) |
| 11:12.41 | LuciusMare | hi, does anybody know why is ssh so unobeying? i had to /etc/init.d/ssh stop it about 20 times, then sigkill the process itself (it spawned again by itself) and now, i hope it is gone for a while |
| 11:16.02 | *** join/#maemo hrw|n900 (~hrw@128-50-191-193.dhcp4.fosdem.net) |
| 11:17.01 | *** join/#maemo rdorsch (~rd@p5B201BF3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:18.02 | pupnik | quiet |
| 11:18.46 | koala_man | I get this when trying to run maemo-sdk-install-wizard_5.0.py: TypeError: QWizardPage.registerField(QString, QWidget, str property=None, SIGNAL() changedSignal=0): argument 4 has unexpected type 'str' |
| 11:19.25 | koala_man | this is on a newly installed debian sid chroot with python-qt4 4.7-2 |
| 11:20.03 | pupnik | urgh |
| 11:20.35 | *** join/#maemo realitygaps (~realityga@2001:6a8:1100:cafe:222:fbff:fe43:be88) |
| 11:22.52 | pupnik | 13:00 aw 1124 Daniel Stone :) |
| 11:23.09 | pupnik | anybody watching tannenbaum ? |
| 11:24.34 | *** join/#maemo mk8 (~torello@ip-212-141.sn1.eutelia.it) |
| 11:26.36 | *** join/#maemo EspadaV8_L (~espadav8@203.219.228.159) |
| 11:26.36 | *** join/#maemo EspadaV8_L (~espadav8@unaffiliated/espadav8) |
| 11:27.56 | *** join/#maemo bennypr0fane (~bennypr0f@vie-078-142-134-115.dsl.sil.at) |
| 11:30.05 | bennypr0fane | Hello, does anyone know whether it's possible to undo a screen calibration of N900? I calibrated it, but now it's worse than before, so i'd like to go back to the previous situation. Any suggestions? |
| 11:38.00 | *** join/#maemo grossh (~gro@ip-94-42-10-81.multimo.pl) |
| 11:38.46 | *** join/#maemo pupnik (~pupnik@201-56-191-193.dhcp4.fosdem.net) |
| 11:40.35 | *** join/#maemo Anunakin (~fazzi@189.82.63.225) |
| 11:40.45 | *** join/#maemo spectre- (~n900@41.202.225.144) |
| 11:42.29 | *** join/#maemo fnordian900 (~user@94-30-69-47.xdsl.murphx.net) |
| 11:45.26 | *** join/#maemo thopiekar (~thopiekar@p57A157B9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:47.23 | *** join/#maemo Arkenklo (arkenklo@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-furgdujgcpqzusot) |
| 11:48.47 | RST38h | yawns |
| 11:49.58 | *** join/#maemo MrGoose1 (~cache@5ac515cd.bb.sky.com) |
| 11:50.23 | RST38h | found why his N900 ends up unnlocked every morning: for some reason, PR1.1 makes it unlock every time the charger is plugged in |
| 11:51.12 | LuciusMare | unlocked? |
| 11:51.41 | RST38h | yes |
| 11:52.12 | *** join/#maemo t-tan (~tanner@f050244013.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 11:52.14 | LuciusMare | and, talking about unlocking, what is the default code? |
| 11:52.23 | LuciusMare | (if i want to change it) |
| 11:52.29 | RST38h | "The HoneyGrid scans 40 million Web sites and 10 million emails, so it was bound to find something interesting. Among the things it found was that a staggering 95% of User Generated Content is either malicious in nature or spam." |
| 11:52.40 | RST38h | cackles evilly |
| 11:52.47 | LuciusMare | honeygrid? |
| 11:53.22 | LuciusMare | wait a minute |
| 11:53.30 | LuciusMare | it scans 10 million emails?? |
| 11:53.36 | LuciusMare | like, personal emails? |
| 11:53.57 | *** join/#maemo Acedip (~ani@fedora/Acedip) |
| 11:56.39 | bennypr0fane | Hello, does anyone know whether it's possible to undo a screen calibration of N900? I calibrated it, but now it's worse than before, so i'd like to go back to the previous situation. Any suggestions? |
| 11:57.49 | LuciusMare | calibrate it better :) |
| 11:58.29 | bennypr0fane | In dunno, i'm afraid of making it even worse |
| 11:59.09 | bennypr0fane | so, do you know if can be nudone? |
| 11:59.15 | bennypr0fane | *undone |
| 11:59.37 | LuciusMare | well, i dont really think that it is possible |
| 11:59.49 | RST38h | Lucius: Yes. And all it gets is "what is the default code honeygrid? wait a minut it scans 10 million emails like personal emails" |
| 12:00.01 | RST38h | "well i dont really think it is possible" |
| 12:00.08 | LuciusMare | eh? |
| 12:00.18 | RST38h | Lucius: Do you see why they claim 95% of that stuff to be garbage now? :) |
| 12:00.59 | LuciusMare | well, everything looks like garbage without context |
| 12:02.00 | *** join/#maemo wazd_ (~Miranda@80-240-220-132.dnat.migtel.ru) |
| 12:02.26 | RST38h | wazd moo |
| 12:03.32 | Corsac | mootoo |
| 12:04.32 | LuciusMare | mootoo? |
| 12:05.56 | *** join/#maemo MohammadAG (~Maemohamm@62.219.120.20) |
| 12:09.19 | *** join/#maemo Tanu (~tanuva@p5B10D7B3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:09.58 | *** part/#maemo bennypr0fane (~bennypr0f@vie-078-142-134-115.dsl.sil.at) |
| 12:15.38 | *** join/#maemo PaulFertser (~PaulFerts@aein-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 12:19.13 | *** join/#maemo MrGoose1 (~cache@5ac515cd.bb.sky.com) |
| 12:22.01 | *** join/#maemo VDVsx (~Valerio@Maemo/community/council/VDVsx) |
| 12:22.02 | zerojay | Any di.fm fans here? |
| 12:22.45 | *** join/#maemo Dassu (haikion@amadeus.cc.tut.fi) |
| 12:22.52 | crashanddie | you? |
| 12:23.23 | Dassu | How does ssh to the device work for you guys when wlan is in power save mode? O_o |
| 12:23.27 | Dassu | I never get connection that way |
| 12:23.57 | zerojay | Just working on a package that will add all the di.fm streams to media player when installed. |
| 12:24.15 | zerojay | Dassu: Set powersave to intermediate instead of max. |
| 12:24.29 | crashanddie | Dassu: depends which router I'm on |
| 12:24.44 | *** join/#maemo fredrin (~fredrik|f@cm-84.208.111.224.getinternet.no) |
| 12:24.49 | *** join/#maemo Sho_ (~EHS1@kde/hein) |
| 12:25.03 | crashanddie | Dassu: in the London office, doesn't work. At home in London it works fine, at the PAT in Brisbane doesn't work either |
| 12:25.18 | fnordianslip | Dassu: works fine with my Draytek router/ap |
| 12:25.36 | SpeedEvil | works just fine on mine |
| 12:25.45 | SpeedEvil | on max |
| 12:26.41 | Dassu | :/ |
| 12:26.51 | Dassu | I alwasy have to set my Power save to none. |
| 12:27.39 | Dassu | hmm |
| 12:27.40 | crashanddie | Dassu: well, the reason your N900 doesn't work with SSH then is because the battery drained in 48.3 seconds |
| 12:27.44 | Dassu | seems to work with medium as well |
| 12:27.50 | zerojay | lol |
| 12:27.51 | crashanddie | in other words, don't set power save to none |
| 12:28.11 | Dassu | crashanddie: It can last for like 8hours |
| 12:28.33 | Dassu | Nope, doesn't work with medium anymore |
| 12:28.41 | crashanddie | you but, like, it's not like it won't like liking what I have, which unlike yours, is like 3 days! |
| 12:28.43 | Dassu | I guess I have to create a switch for this |
| 12:29.08 | Dassu | crashanddie: Dont care about 3 days If the recharger is right next to me |
| 12:29.42 | crashanddie | So you bought a mobile device because you never leave home? Makes sense |
| 12:29.52 | crashanddie | deactivates House mode |
| 12:30.12 | Corsac | crashanddie: not sure how you manage to keep it 3 days |
| 12:30.15 | *** join/#maemo vincenzo (~User@host204-189-dynamic.45-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:30.25 | Corsac | I can't make it last more than 36h |
| 12:30.29 | *** join/#maemo onen|openBmap (~quassel@vbo91-1-89-87-201-85.dsl.club-internet.fr) |
| 12:30.30 | Corsac | or maybe 40-45 |
| 12:30.45 | vincenzo | ciao |
| 12:30.49 | crashanddie | Corsac: I dunno, I charged it last on Friday and now it's beeping |
| 12:30.51 | vincenzo | !list |
| 12:31.05 | *** mode/#maemo [+o crashanddie] by ChanServ |
| 12:31.08 | Dassu | crashanddie: dude |
| 12:31.09 | *** kick/#maemo [vincenzo!~slauwers@Maemo/community/contributor/crashanddie] by crashanddie (vincenzo) |
| 12:31.15 | *** mode/#maemo [-o crashanddie] by ChanServ |
| 12:31.37 | Dassu | crashanddie: I'm not gonna ssh to my device from anywhere else than home. So problem doesn't exist in elsewhere |
| 12:32.41 | crashanddie | zerojay: favourite picture of all those I've taken yesterday: http://www.flickr.com/photos/slauwers/4336878936/sizes/l/ |
| 12:32.51 | crashanddie | sorry, GeneralAntilles ^ |
| 12:33.22 | Jaffa | crashanddie: I had to give in and introduce a tiny bit of PHP into the existing mwkn.net site (under `resources' in svn) just to handle issue lists |
| 12:33.41 | crashanddie | Jaffa: no sweat |
| 12:33.42 | Jaffa | crashanddie: Cool photo |
| 12:34.03 | *** join/#maemo juliank (~juliank@ubuntu/member/juliank) |
| 12:35.52 | Corsac | Jaffa: yes I've seen them, remember we cooked the wiki page together? :) |
| 12:38.15 | zerojay | crashanddie: Wow. |
| 12:39.18 | crashanddie | lol... some guy in a photography channel just asked me why my pictures were blurry... |
| 12:39.27 | crashanddie | that's shallow depth of field, bru |
| 12:39.35 | *** join/#maemo MohammadAG (~Maemohamm@62.219.120.20) |
| 12:39.51 | SpeedEvil | how big is that snake - 2cm across? |
| 12:40.00 | SpeedEvil | no - 1.5 |
| 12:40.45 | crashanddie | SpeedEvil: bit more than that |
| 12:40.55 | Kegetys | or the noise reduction |
| 12:40.55 | crashanddie | SpeedEvil: depends what you mean by "across" |
| 12:40.59 | *** join/#maemo Vanadis (~Vanadis__@84-75-177-47.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 12:41.03 | Jaffa | Corsac: Yeah, thought we might've done - but it was a while ago and my mind is failing :-/ |
| 12:41.11 | Corsac | :) |
| 12:41.16 | Corsac | Jaffa: were you at the talk? |
| 12:41.17 | SpeedEvil | crashanddie: diameter |
| 12:41.42 | crashanddie | SpeedEvil: maybe a bit more than 2cm, probably 4 |
| 12:42.16 | crashanddie | Jaffa: thanks |
| 12:42.17 | Jaffa | Corsac: No, didn't make it to FOSDEM. |
| 12:42.26 | *** join/#maemo PaulFertser (~PaulFerts@aein-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 12:42.43 | Jaffa | Corsac: Didn't even consider going until someone asked. I'm not used to thinking of myself as a somebody who people might like to meet ;-) |
| 12:42.57 | *** join/#maemo thuttu77 (daemon@a88-112-28-227.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 12:43.00 | crashanddie | Jaffa: don't be that humble, you're not that great |
| 12:43.07 | Corsac | well, you might have wanted to go to the talks :) |
| 12:43.31 | SpeedEvil | Yes he is! He invented those lovely cakes. |
| 12:43.35 | Jaffa | crashanddie: Good point. |
| 12:43.47 | Jaffa | SpeedEvil: Yeah, but I stupidly gave them away so I don't get 'em anymore :-( |
| 12:44.15 | Jaffa | Corsac: Indeed. If nothing else, would give me some more content for tonight's MWKN |
| 12:44.26 | crashanddie | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa |
| 12:44.58 | crashanddie | quote from that page: "Jaffa suffers from drug problems, high crime rates and violence." |
| 12:45.10 | Corsac | ahaha |
| 12:45.15 | *** join/#maemo sleipnir (~sleipnir@p4FDD30B5.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:45.18 | Jaffa | Hehe |
| 12:45.31 | crashanddie | it would appear Jaffa is a bit gay: "Jaffa's Jewish population is a mix of "old-timers" who settled in the city in the 1950s and 1960s" |
| 12:45.35 | *** join/#maemo JoeBrain (~JoeBrain@c-98-234-56-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 12:45.50 | Jaffa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_orange is the closest to the origin of the nick. "very sweet" |
| 12:46.37 | crashanddie | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_riots |
| 12:47.04 | Jaffa | Corsac: http://fosdem.org/2010/interview/elena-reshetova looks appropriate |
| 12:47.16 | Corsac | yeah, it almost decided me to go :) |
| 12:47.18 | Myrtti | mmmm jaffa cakes |
| 12:47.40 | crashanddie | Heh, Elena |
| 12:47.54 | crashanddie | we're not done with her yet |
| 12:48.10 | crashanddie | I have great plans for her |
| 12:48.50 | zerojay | Nothing to do with a ballgag, I hope. |
| 12:49.07 | crashanddie | no, I already told you the ballgag was yours only |
| 12:49.12 | crashanddie | stop being so insecure, goddamnit |
| 12:49.30 | SpeedEvil | that sounds interesting |
| 12:49.54 | crashanddie | zerojay: you have no idea how hard it was to deflect that on you rather than throw in a cheap "your mom" line |
| 12:49.54 | Myrtti | goddamnit, now I want jaffa cakes |
| 12:50.12 | zerojay | crashanddie: I appreciate the effort. :) |
| 12:50.26 | crashanddie | that's what she said |
| 12:50.33 | *** join/#maemo PaulFertser (~PaulFerts@aein-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 12:51.03 | Jaffa | Heh |
| 12:52.09 | crashanddie | Jaffa: I didn't have to work on Saturday afternoon, so I thought I'd go to the zoo, take some pictures, and get drunk during the evening |
| 12:52.18 | crashanddie | bastards called me in today... |
| 12:52.24 | Jaffa | crashanddie: Sounds like a perfec... oh. |
| 12:52.46 | *** join/#maemo hannes__ (~hannes@80-121-105-112.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 12:53.02 | crashanddie | anyway, going to try and watch something on the crap wifi, and then off to bed |
| 12:53.09 | crashanddie | 'night all |
| 12:53.14 | Jaffa | Cy |
| 12:53.15 | Jaffa | +A |
| 12:54.18 | *** join/#maemo wazd (~Miranda@80-240-220-132.dnat.migtel.ru) |
| 12:58.05 | crashanddie | btw: I WANT MORE V |
| 12:58.09 | *** join/#maemo jophish (~jophish@hermi.gotadsl.co.uk) |
| 12:58.23 | crashanddie | That little Lisa kid in V? Djeezus |
| 12:59.47 | crashanddie | I mean... seriously? http://blog.hdscreencaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Laura_Vandervoort_0001.jpg |
| 13:02.53 | aSIMULAtor | starts back in march right? |
| 13:03.01 | crashanddie | aye |
| 13:03.10 | crashanddie | bbl, rebooting |
| 13:03.41 | *** join/#maemo akshey (~aksheyjaw@121.242.23.197) |
| 13:04.47 | hcarrega | hi |
| 13:06.45 | zerojay | 4 streams done... 31 to go. :/ |
| 13:08.39 | hcarrega | anyone using stellarium? |
| 13:09.01 | *** join/#maemo vallhalla81 (~user@cpc2-warw3-0-0-cust336.sol2.cable.ntl.com) |
| 13:09.45 | vallhalla81 | Hi there all |
| 13:09.50 | hcarrega | hi |
| 13:10.50 | *** join/#maemo crashanddie (~slauwers@Maemo/community/contributor/crashanddie) |
| 13:12.31 | *** part/#maemo vallhalla81 (~user@cpc2-warw3-0-0-cust336.sol2.cable.ntl.com) |
| 13:12.44 | *** join/#maemo vallhalla81 (~user@cpc2-warw3-0-0-cust336.sol2.cable.ntl.com) |
| 13:12.54 | *** part/#maemo vallhalla81 (~user@cpc2-warw3-0-0-cust336.sol2.cable.ntl.com) |
| 13:13.33 | *** join/#maemo stevenhong (~xihong@124.240.125.49) |
| 13:16.58 | Damion2 | how old is lisa supposed to be? |
| 13:17.20 | Damion2 | is this a remake and she's the one who gets knolckedd up by the alien? |
| 13:17.47 | *** join/#maemo Arkenklo (arkenklo@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-roinmwdkhvywyycp) |
| 13:18.37 | MohammadAG | lol changing the transitions.ini file is fun |
| 13:18.52 | MohammadAG | set the rotation angle to 360 |
| 13:22.34 | ShadowJK | i think she's supposed to be an alien |
| 13:23.25 | crashanddie | Damion2: yeah, she's an alien |
| 13:23.37 | crashanddie | Damion2: the one who gets knocked up is a black chick, don't remember her name |
| 13:24.36 | *** join/#maemo glass (glass@ip242.otanner5.opintanner.fi) |
| 13:25.14 | *** part/#maemo jonnylamb (~jonnylamb@jonnylamb.com) |
| 13:28.31 | RST38h | V? Who mentioned V? They are returning V? |
| 13:29.24 | *** join/#maemo avs (~avs@a88-113-5-233.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 13:31.26 | crashanddie | I'm thinking about opening a gym, it will only be open on Sunday mornings, and it'll be called "Jehova's Fitness" |
| 13:32.55 | RST38h | crashanddie: "Burn Your Fat for Jesus!" |
| 13:33.08 | *** join/#maemo guysoft42 (~guysoft@bzq-79-176-68-34.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 13:33.10 | RST38h | (also minimizes stigmata size) |
| 13:33.57 | crashanddie | And the Lord said unto John: "Come forth and receive eternal life." |
| 13:33.58 | Myrtti | there actually is this volunteer thing going on in Finland |
| 13:34.05 | crashanddie | But John came fifth and won a toaster |
| 13:34.11 | koala_man | the eula link on http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Maemo_5_SDK_installation_for_beginners#Nokia_binaries_installation is broken |
| 13:34.16 | Myrtti | Lose your weight for Education in Nepal |
| 13:34.27 | crashanddie | your weight? |
| 13:34.30 | crashanddie | Your whole weight? |
| 13:34.31 | crashanddie | everything? |
| 13:34.39 | crashanddie | That gives a whole new meaning to "Burn your fat" |
| 13:34.40 | *** join/#maemo Markus23 (~Markus@188.45.7.37) |
| 13:35.09 | Myrtti | some millionaire promised to pay 15⬠per lost kilo to a development project in Nepal to aid education |
| 13:36.10 | SpeedEvil | lost weight with the n900! |
| 13:36.19 | MohammadAG | koala_man, http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/eula/index.php |
| 13:36.22 | crashanddie | ok, so on average that's a 150euro pledge per person, how many participate? |
| 13:36.32 | Myrtti | so for every kilo of weight you lose, the development project gets money. There's the Finnish institute for health and wellbeing monitoring it, and some church councils and official offices are participating |
| 13:36.35 | MohammadAG | there was a |Maemo at the end |
| 13:36.55 | SpeedEvil | Seriously - I could barely afford it - but I decided that with planned low-calorie/inexpensive meals - I could subsidise it from the diet. And lose weight too! :) |
| 13:37.03 | *** join/#maemo Aranel (~Aranel@88.232.219.3) |
| 13:37.03 | *** join/#maemo Aranel (~Aranel@unaffiliated/aranel) |
| 13:37.19 | Myrtti | http://www.thl.fi/en_US/web/en/pressrelease?id=21864 |
| 13:37.29 | SpeedEvil | http://www.mauve.plus.com/weight.gif :) |
| 13:39.33 | koala_man | Myrtti: nice. does it work the other way as well? |
| 13:39.37 | MohammadAG | koala_man, wiki edited |
| 13:39.47 | MohammadAG | thanks for pointing it out :) |
| 13:39.54 | koala_man | yay, thanks |
| 13:39.58 | crashanddie | SpeedEvil: how are you achieve such consistency? |
| 13:40.14 | crashanddie | s/ve/ving/ |
| 13:40.57 | lopz | hey :p |
| 13:43.25 | MohammadAG | umm |
| 13:43.44 | MohammadAG | my n900 has a charging only indicator in the pop down status menu |
| 13:43.50 | MohammadAG | applets area |
| 13:44.12 | MohammadAG | the USB cable isn't connected, what's that area's name? systemui? |
| 13:44.34 | *** join/#maemo lopz (gentoo@unaffiliated/lopz) |
| 13:44.45 | SpeedEvil | crashanddie: caloric defecit. |
| 13:44.59 | *** join/#maemo filip42 (~filip@ankh-morpork.disque-monde.org) |
| 13:45.07 | *** join/#maemo Ken-Young (~Ken@128.171.116.249) |
| 13:45.18 | crashanddie | SpeedEvil: impressive, building muscle as well? |
| 13:45.28 | SpeedEvil | crashanddie: just maintaining ATM - losing fat |
| 13:45.58 | SpeedEvil | crashanddie: -1000 calories/day (from my ~2700 or so baseline) = ~1Kg/week loss |
| 13:46.12 | crashanddie | SpeedEvil: you do realise that the first thing that goes when you do a calorific burn kills most of your muscles first,right? |
| 13:46.18 | SpeedEvil | slowed down recently to approach more gradually |
| 13:46.32 | koala_man | 1700kcal per day? jesus |
| 13:46.35 | SpeedEvil | crashanddie: I am not finding that I am getting any weaker on tests I'm doing. |
| 13:46.57 | *** join/#maemo realitygaps (~realityga@2001:6a8:1100:cafe:222:fbff:fe43:be88) |
| 13:47.01 | crashanddie | SpeedEvil: no, but you should be getting stronger |
| 13:47.10 | crashanddie | SpeedEvil: anyway, whatever works for you, good luck |
| 13:47.27 | SpeedEvil | crashanddie: Got other problems - post viral fatigue syndrome - that makes excersize a real problem. |
| 13:47.39 | SpeedEvil | But am doing as much as I can. |
| 13:47.57 | crashanddie | don't be a pussy :P |
| 13:48.07 | *** join/#maemo hardaker (~hardaker@mail.hardakers.net) |
| 13:48.32 | crashanddie | just go to a local tall building, run up and down the stairs a couple of time, go back home, undust those dumbells and do some abs, you'll be fine |
| 13:49.03 | SpeedEvil | Unfortunately, if I exert myself as much as I can on one or two days - I can have _no_ energy and difficulty thinking clearly for up to several months. |
| 13:49.05 | RST38h | moos at Myrtti |
| 13:49.07 | crashanddie | dumbells, you get a good 40kg set for roughly 60euros, running shoes for roughly the same, so if you bargain, 100euros and you're set for life :P |
| 13:49.57 | RST38h | Ok, seeing that half the regulars are here, whose N900 goes out of locked mode when you plug it into the charger? |
| 13:50.07 | SpeedEvil | RST38h: not mine |
| 13:50.17 | SpeedEvil | oh |
| 13:50.27 | cehteh | RST38h: locked as in keyboard locked or passcode locked? |
| 13:50.30 | SpeedEvil | if you set 'display always on during charger plugged in' - it may do that |
| 13:50.44 | RST38h | cehteh: Locked as in locked with the sliding switch |
| 13:50.59 | RST38h | Speed: Hmmm...ok, lemme see if it got set by chance |
| 13:51.20 | cehteh | yes mine wakes up .. i have the 'display always on, when on charger' enabled too |
| 13:51.51 | RST38h | no, not set |
| 13:52.16 | cehteh | are this screen-blinking apps which shall fix stuck pixels a myth or actually working? |
| 13:52.18 | *** join/#maemo panaggio (~panaggio@200-158-190-11.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 13:52.28 | RST38h | myth |
| 13:52.49 | cehteh | guessed so |
| 13:53.13 | zerojay | They do work from time to time. |
| 13:53.48 | cehteh | for what is the 'power saving' on the screen preferences? |
| 13:53.54 | RST38h | hmm, no, my N900 always goes unlocked when charged |
| 13:54.05 | cehteh | i mean we have 'turn off after n secs' |
| 13:54.19 | cehteh | tries |
| 13:54.33 | cehteh | yes mine too |
| 13:54.51 | RST38h | Have you got a final one or a dev unit? |
| 13:54.57 | cehteh | final |
| 13:55.02 | RST38h | wtf? |
| 13:55.11 | RST38h | Weird. Never did that before 51.1 |
| 13:55.12 | cehteh | with new firmware |
| 13:55.16 | crashanddie | ahaha... elderly care home overlooking a funeral director... |
| 13:55.21 | cehteh | yes iirc thats a regression |
| 13:55.23 | crashanddie | that's a classic |
| 13:55.35 | *** join/#maemo Balthazar (~Balthazar@AAmiens-156-1-107-169.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 13:58.12 | *** join/#maemo ceh900 (~ct@pipapo.org) |
| 13:58.16 | *** join/#maemo gunni (~quassel@xdsl-84-44-156-47.netcologne.de) |
| 13:59.04 | *** join/#maemo Micze (~micze@81-237-239-229-no133.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 14:00.01 | Micze | test |
| 14:00.17 | SpeedEvil | ator |
| 14:01.13 | Micze | Lovely |
| 14:01.38 | *** join/#maemo grossh (~gro@ip-94-42-10-81.multimo.pl) |
| 14:05.44 | Micze | This device is the best thing ever. |
| 14:06.52 | SpeedEvil | This, or the wheel. |
| 14:10.00 | *** join/#maemo N900evil (~Speedevil@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 14:10.51 | *** join/#maemo Tanuva (~tanuva@p5B10D7B3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:11.07 | *** join/#maemo srw (~swo@f051088102.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 14:11.33 | *** part/#maemo Balthazar (~Balthazar@AAmiens-156-1-107-169.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:14.25 | RST38h | why don't I see the mention of firearms in this context? |
| 14:15.30 | *** join/#maemo Flyser (~flyser@unaffiliated/flyser) |
| 14:16.55 | *** join/#maemo akshey (~aksheyjaw@121.242.23.197) |
| 14:19.41 | N900evil | you don't have a bluetooth phalanx system? |
| 14:21.02 | crashanddie | cocks a glock and aims at RST38h |
| 14:21.05 | crashanddie | happy now? |
| 14:21.10 | RST38h | oh yessss |
| 14:21.18 | RST38h | found the wiki page about V 2009 season |
| 14:21.21 | N900evil | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS I got one in the box with the n900 |
| 14:21.35 | RST38h | Weird how things transform with time... |
| 14:21.44 | Micze | everyone i show my phone to that have things like sony experias and the lige just gape in awe |
| 14:24.36 | *** join/#maemo solpete (~Wretep@c83-255-52-236.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 14:25.21 | solpete | urm... why doesnt my 12volt car2usb adapter charge my n900? |
| 14:25.58 | N900evil | have you measured the output voltage? |
| 14:26.18 | solpete | well it charged my old TYTNII are the voltage speccs different? |
| 14:26.33 | solpete | between micro/mini usb? |
| 14:26.40 | N900evil | no |
| 14:26.59 | N900evil | do you mean no charge at all? |
| 14:27.03 | solpete | yeah |
| 14:27.09 | hardaker | I don't think most adaptors can supply the current. |
| 14:27.10 | solpete | doesnt even light up |
| 14:27.15 | hardaker | I don't think it has to do with the voltage. |
| 14:27.22 | solpete | ok |
| 14:27.25 | hardaker | the n900 seems to need to draw a lot of current |
| 14:27.33 | Lumpio- | 500mA shouldn't be hard to draw from a car battery |
| 14:27.39 | hardaker | you're not alone |
| 14:27.41 | solpete | not really no |
| 14:27.42 | Lumpio- | Is the charger a dumb one? |
| 14:27.42 | N900evil | it should charge from low current |
| 14:27.44 | hardaker | It's not the car. |
| 14:27.46 | hardaker | it's the charger. |
| 14:27.51 | N900evil | in principle |
| 14:27.56 | hardaker | N900evil: it doesn't. |
| 14:28.03 | Lumpio- | If it's just a voltage converter, the N900 might not even try to charge from it |
| 14:28.07 | crashanddie | does maps still require internet connectivity? |
| 14:28.23 | Lumpio- | Because the USB spec requires that you can't draw over 100mA without asking the USB host for a permission |
| 14:28.28 | solpete | well it seems as if n900 doesnt want to charge it |
| 14:28.30 | Lumpio- | ...and a dumb voltage converter isn't going to respond |
| 14:28.44 | N900evil | Lumpio-, it does according to L3/L4 manual |
| 14:28.46 | Lumpio- | I have no idea about that part of the N900 though, so I'm just guessing. |
| 14:29.05 | N900evil | if the d pins are shorted |
| 14:29.08 | solpete | ok so I have to buy a specific Nokia charger? |
| 14:29.12 | Lumpio- | oo |
| 14:29.15 | Lumpio- | Never heard of that >_> |
| 14:29.23 | N900evil | to indicate it's a charger |
| 14:29.24 | Lumpio- | I must've skipped that part of the USB spec |
| 14:29.28 | N900evil | newish spec |
| 14:29.38 | N900evil | couple of years |
| 14:29.48 | hardaker | solpete: I suspect you don't need a Nokia one; just a good one. |
| 14:30.03 | N900evil | supporting dumb high current chargers |
| 14:30.35 | solpete | okay |
| 14:30.41 | crashanddie | works fine with blackberry charger |
| 14:31.14 | solpete | I guess the fuse wont burn in my car, its not that power hungry I hope hehe |
| 14:32.45 | Lumpio- | ...maybe the car charger doesn't know of the spec :P |
| 14:33.53 | SpeedEvil | I fit's under a year old, wquite likely |
| 14:35.22 | RST38h | Heh... So many people asking for UAE and *none* of them tried porting it. |
| 14:35.28 | *** join/#maemo rlinfati (~rlinfati@net-93-147-31-242.t2.dsl.vodafone.it) |
| 14:35.39 | RST38h | The best they can do is take pupnik's binary and try running it on n900. |
| 14:36.07 | SpeedEvil | uae? |
| 14:36.08 | RST38h | We are not even talking about writing the thing from scratch, just compiling it |
| 14:36.48 | derf | RST38h: You mean... use the COMMAND-LINE? That's so hard! |
| 14:37.05 | RST38h | derf: what is "COMAND-LINE"? |
| 14:37.37 | derf | Yes, exactly. |
| 14:40.16 | *** join/#maemo avs (~avs@83-102-31-186.tampere.customers.dnainternet.fi) |
| 14:40.54 | RichiH_fosdem | can the n900 function as a usb host? |
| 14:41.18 | koala_man | what does "sb-conf se FREMANTLE_ARMEL" do? set the currently used architecture? why are you supposed to run af-sb-init.sh start in x86 mode? |
| 14:42.40 | RST38h | cehteh: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8890 |
| 14:42.43 | povbot | Bug 8890: Device becomes unlocked when plugged into charger |
| 14:43.48 | *** join/#maemo hannes_ (~chatzilla@188-192-48-57-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 14:44.58 | koala_man | I can't run af-sb-init.sh in armel mode, am I supposed to be able to do that? |
| 14:46.34 | Micze | . |
| 14:47.39 | *** join/#maemo user__ (~user@215-61-191-193.dhcp4.fosdem.net) |
| 14:49.30 | *** join/#maemo snostorm (~snostorm@cpc1-harg4-2-0-cust983.7-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 14:52.00 | *** join/#maemo unixSnob (~unixSnob@starfury.spearlink.com) |
| 14:52.41 | ifreq | koala_man: i dont think so |
| 14:52.58 | snostorm | Need help I believe my N900 is Bricked for me, Resulting from the secon time the n900 has went into continious reboot mode. the fist time I had just enough battery left to flash the phone this time the battery is dead and does not seem to want to recharge. Any ideas? |
| 14:53.48 | Lumpio- | I guess that's one downside of USB charging, if not done partway in hardware >_> |
| 14:54.29 | *** join/#maemo siriusnova (~siriusnov@84.235.75.19) |
| 14:54.54 | ifreq | koala_man: Known limitations: The Hildon UI does not come up in the armel target (this is being worked on). |
| 14:55.34 | koala_man | ah |
| 14:55.43 | *** join/#maemo levity (~levity@unaffiliated/canuck) |
| 14:56.08 | SpeedEvil | snostorm: unplug battery and charger. |
| 14:56.24 | SpeedEvil | snostorm: wait 43.7 minutes, and plug in battery and charger - leave for a couple of hours |
| 14:56.35 | *** join/#maemo septyni (~m@2002:55ff:3ce1:a:250:22ff:fe8b:8224) |
| 14:56.37 | snostorm | ok how long, |
| 14:57.01 | SpeedEvil | err 4-5 mins I mean |
| 14:57.36 | The_Tall1 | Hi there. There are some python-twisted packages online. Does somebody have experiences using them together with bluetooth? |
| 14:58.39 | snostorm | ok will try that, and bee back, does any one know if there is a fix for the phone going into continous reboot if I get it fixed? |
| 15:01.04 | *** part/#maemo septyni (~m@2002:55ff:3ce1:a:250:22ff:fe8b:8224) |
| 15:02.16 | *** join/#maemo Panttine (~Petri@82-128-247-97-Rajakyla-TR1.suomi.net) |
| 15:02.21 | *** join/#maemo avs (~avs@83-102-31-186.tampere.customers.dnainternet.fi) |
| 15:03.07 | SpeedEvil | snostorm: flashing it should work |
| 15:03.17 | SpeedEvil | snostorm: if there isn't a hardware fault |
| 15:04.26 | Aranel | is Nokia Maps support any language else English? |
| 15:06.49 | *** join/#maemo adalal_mobile (~user@cpc3-clif8-2-0-cust174.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 15:07.18 | *** part/#maemo Panttine (~Petri@82-128-247-97-Rajakyla-TR1.suomi.net) |
| 15:07.21 | *** part/#maemo adalal_mobile (~user@cpc3-clif8-2-0-cust174.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 15:08.32 | *** join/#maemo MrGoose1 (~cache@5ac515cd.bb.sky.com) |
| 15:14.14 | *** join/#maemo KMFDM (~tKMFDM@ip5658167f.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 15:16.28 | *** join/#maemo Erod (~Juno@unaffiliated/erod) |
| 15:17.18 | *** join/#maemo Aquarina (~Aquarina@bl6-213-26.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 15:17.38 | Micze | Did i say that i love my n900, if any developer is around. nice work! |
| 15:18.05 | *** join/#maemo avs (~avs@a88-113-5-233.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 15:18.21 | libben | I love the hardware, but it's a shame that the google contact/calander sync is poor |
| 15:18.37 | *** join/#maemo sheepbat (~lev3k@c-98-238-227-32.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 15:18.46 | libben | To get my google contacts working on my phone, i had to export all contacts from gmail, and then transer the file to the phone. |
| 15:19.36 | *** join/#maemo Markus23 (~Markus@78.142.180.187) |
| 15:19.48 | *** join/#maemo ioeee (~x@193.Red-81-39-204.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:19.53 | Markus23 | Is it possible to play a song as a whole as wakeup sound? |
| 15:20.06 | *** join/#maemo jgoss (~josh@unaffiliated/jgoss) |
| 15:20.22 | Markus23 | and not only 10 sec and then waiting for some minutes? |
| 15:20.29 | ioeee-N900 | saluda o/ |
| 15:20.43 | The_Tall1 | All right connect it to a unix socket and it should work, but does it perform on N8XX, too? |
| 15:23.24 | snostorm | SpeedEvil I put the battery back in but still no charge light I even put the battery in a warm place to make sure it was not cold drained |
| 15:25.09 | *** join/#maemo type_t (~markwire@c-98-228-74-254.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 15:26.20 | *** part/#maemo MistaED (~alex@123-243-195-174.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 15:30.10 | Markus23 | nobody has an idea how you can play the alarm sound longer then 10 sec? |
| 15:31.11 | *** join/#maemo RST38h (marat@trantor.komkon.org) |
| 15:35.47 | *** join/#maemo `0660 (~olli@ppp121-45-196-115.lns20.cbr1.internode.on.net) |
| 15:36.50 | *** join/#maemo siriusnova (~siriusnov@84.235.75.19) |
| 15:38.28 | RST38h | OMG they got Linux Torvladsx |
| 15:40.59 | Stskeeps | shot by a reindeer hunter? :P |
| 15:41.02 | derf | You know all he cares about is the kernel. |
| 15:42.20 | kynky | lies |
| 15:42.36 | kynky | thought all he cared about was git :) |
| 15:43.32 | derf | Well, Android uses that, too. |
| 15:44.13 | kynky | would be hard not too i would imagine |
| 15:44.55 | *** join/#maemo uhsf (~uhsf@modemcable228.151-57-74.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 15:45.16 | *** join/#maemo hannes__ (~hannes@91-115-218-241.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 15:48.08 | *** join/#maemo Sentri (~sentri@tango-179.srv.hosting.fi) |
| 15:48.30 | *** join/#maemo LuserN800 (~lo@p5B0C5DDD.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:49.18 | snostorm | Does any one know anything about the constant reboot bug ? |
| 15:49.35 | Stskeeps | upgrade to PR1.1 or send it to nokia care |
| 15:50.49 | Sentri | is there a way to add a shortcut to the dashboard (or whatever it is called in english) that would open x terminal, ssh to my address and "screen -r" to my irssi? |
| 15:51.06 | Sentri | I tried this but it doesn't work: http://www.petrilopia.net/wordpress/nokia-n900/nokia-n900-irssi-shortcut-to-desktop/ |
| 15:51.11 | Sentri | x term just crashes |
| 15:52.26 | Sentri | or closes |
| 15:53.56 | *** join/#maemo akshey (~aksheyjaw@121.242.23.197) |
| 15:55.29 | ifreq | Sentri: dont think so |
| 15:55.56 | Sentri | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=426851&postcount=4 also mentions the same way |
| 15:56.28 | ifreq | its for ssh connection |
| 15:56.31 | Lumpio- | ...I added that just yesterday |
| 15:56.36 | ifreq | not to run commands after |
| 15:56.49 | Sentri | yeah I'm trying to ssh to my remote box where I have irssi running |
| 15:57.02 | Lumpio- | I'm not sure if it's necessary, but I put the ssh invocation into a separate .sh file |
| 15:57.06 | ifreq | ssh is OK, but you asked to open screen -r afer |
| 15:57.06 | Lumpio- | And made osso-xterm run that |
| 15:57.21 | Lumpio- | I read somewhere that it doesn't like command line args, but I'm not 100% sure of that |
| 15:57.27 | Lumpio- | ifreq: That works too. |
| 15:57.48 | ifreq | btw on examples i suggest to use fullpaths |
| 15:58.35 | RST38h | Stskeeps: Does you N900 go off locked mode when you plug it into the charger? |
| 15:58.40 | RST38h | (51.1 assumed) |
| 15:58.47 | ifreq | Lumpio-: youve tested that your desktop icon opens ssh conenctiona and executes screen -r? |
| 15:58.58 | Stskeeps | RST38h: not sure |
| 15:59.02 | Lumpio- | ifreq: Yes. |
| 15:59.12 | ifreq | ookay then help sentri :) i dont need that nfo. |
| 15:59.21 | Sentri | I removed the 'ssh user@example.org' argument and xterm opens up fine |
| 15:59.35 | Lumpio- | Maybe it really doesn't like command line arguments for the command |
| 15:59.50 | Sentri | hmm |
| 16:00.00 | Lumpio- | Try putting the ssh invocation into something like /usr/share/bin/ssh-server.sh |
| 16:00.16 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: I never use 'lock'. It unblanks though |
| 16:01.07 | Lumpio- | And Exec=/usr/bin/oxxo-xterm /usr/local/bin/ssh-server.sh |
| 16:01.10 | RST38h | Stskeeps: Do check: it looks like this is a regression that occurs in 51.1 |
| 16:01.12 | Lumpio- | Minus typos |
| 16:01.23 | Lumpio- | At least that worked for me |
| 16:02.58 | *** join/#maemo Venst (~6d6e6011@gateway/web/freenode/x-hyekwwanakxtjvtc) |
| 16:03.17 | Venst | hello, |
| 16:03.36 | Venst | n' good day to you all. |
| 16:03.56 | Venst | had a few questions regarding the Maemo SDK, |
| 16:04.46 | Venst | would i use it to compile stuff that are arml for maemo ? |
| 16:07.43 | Trizt | if you want to release it to be used on an arm based device |
| 16:08.23 | *** join/#maemo Venst_ (~6d6e6011@gateway/web/freenode/x-lzpojawnglhotveh) |
| 16:08.32 | RST38h | wonders if he can cut the number of resident browserds down to 3 |
| 16:08.33 | Aranel | How can I upload a package to extras-devel? |
| 16:08.35 | Venst^ | sorry got disconnected, |
| 16:08.36 | RST38h | There are 7 right now |
| 16:08.46 | Venst^ | paste any replies pls |
| 16:08.54 | GAN900 | RST38h, somebody needs to ship him an N900 |
| 16:08.57 | Trizt | if you want to release it to be used on an arm based device |
| 16:08.59 | GAN900 | That's just depressing. |
| 16:09.07 | RST38h | GAN: Sts has no N900? |
| 16:09.14 | GAN900 | RST38h, Linus |
| 16:09.32 | RST38h | Ah, Linus... Who cares about Linus |
| 16:09.38 | Venst^ | so would is SDK allow me to compile cli applicaions for the n900 ? |
| 16:09.42 | RST38h | is more concerned that wazd has no N900 =) |
| 16:10.03 | Trizt | Venst^; yes, if you select to compile an arm version |
| 16:10.20 | GAN900 | RST38h, well wazd sucks. There's nothing we can do about that. :P |
| 16:10.32 | GAN900 | wazd, don't you have a passport yet? |
| 16:10.39 | RST38h | GAN: Judging from what he does, he rulez =) |
| 16:10.43 | Trizt | Venst^; for testing it may be good to compile x86 and run it in the "emulator" |
| 16:11.02 | RST38h | GAN <-- came first in the race to get a passport |
| 16:11.18 | GAN900 | Woo! |
| 16:11.44 | Venst^ | Trizt : shouldnt i compile for arml and test i nthe emulator ? |
| 16:11.48 | Venst^ | in* |
| 16:12.22 | Trizt | Venst^; it's run my x86 compiles so I would say x86 |
| 16:13.12 | Venst^ | Trizt : do some applications need their sources edited to run on maemo ? |
| 16:13.20 | Venst^ | as in for arm |
| 16:13.28 | Venst^ | talking about cli applications here |
| 16:13.40 | Trizt | Venst^; no it shouldn't as long as you don't write something really specific x86 CPU |
| 16:13.50 | Venst^ | great. |
| 16:14.13 | Venst^ | Trizt : whats the best easiest road in terms of gui ? |
| 16:14.20 | ifreq | wazd doenst have a paypal either :P |
| 16:14.23 | Venst^ | QT or something like that? |
| 16:14.26 | ifreq | so he prolly wont get n900.. ever |
| 16:14.46 | Trizt | Venst^; I have to say I haven't been doing that much, but they suggest to go with qt as that will be the future of maemo |
| 16:14.59 | wazd | maybe we'll stop discussing me and n900? |
| 16:15.26 | ifreq | wazd: nevah!! |
| 16:15.27 | ifreq | :) |
| 16:15.43 | Venst^ | you know what, fuck gui's i need to find a good command execution widget! |
| 16:16.35 | Trizt | Venst^; think there was one in devel repo |
| 16:17.00 | RST38h | wazd: Only when you get one. OR the N920 =) |
| 16:17.24 | Venst^ | will check. |
| 16:17.42 | wazd | RST38h: with dual-sim and TV :D |
| 16:17.50 | RST38h | wazd: and a deadly laser |
| 16:18.03 | Trizt | don't forget a toaster |
| 16:18.08 | RST38h | does not get what dual sim is good for, but TV would be nice |
| 16:18.21 | RST38h | one step closer to tricorder |
| 16:18.23 | *** join/#maemo alexj_ (~alexj@c-98-248-142-214.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 16:18.52 | Trizt | RST38h; so you can have your private sim and your work sim in hte same phone, it's quite a lot to carry around on two cellphones |
| 16:19.09 | *** join/#maemo kalikiana (~kalikiana@xfce/goodies-developer/kalikiana) |
| 16:19.16 | RST38h | Trizt: I do not have corporate phone. |
| 16:19.19 | RST38h | No need to. |
| 16:19.24 | Trizt | lucky you |
| 16:19.53 | kuriiri | i don't have private phone :( |
| 16:19.56 | RST38h | My time off work is mine. |
| 16:20.08 | *** join/#maemo alextreme (~alex@82-171-161-1.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 16:20.41 | *** join/#maemo Aquarina (~Aquarina@bl6-57-122.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 16:20.45 | Trizt | has weeks when he worsk 24h/7d |
| 16:22.37 | wazd | RST38h: what do you think about "17 moments of spring" in 3D? :D |
| 16:26.11 | RST38h | wazd: won't make a difference either way, I think |
| 16:26.29 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: it's more like the time *at* work your ass isn't owned by your boss :-P |
| 16:26.41 | RST38h | wazd: redrawing it in technicolor has not made it significantly worse, so 3d wouldn't either :) |
| 16:27.21 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: neither is your private phone |
| 16:27.47 | RST38h | DocS: my boss knows well that it is more effective to email me. |
| 16:28.00 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: so if your boss ever wants to give you a phonecall he better tosses over a corporate phone to you |
| 16:28.12 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: heh :-D |
| 16:28.17 | DocScrutinizer | good boss |
| 16:28.19 | RST38h | DocS: I am ok with my boss calling me on my private phone, no big deal |
| 16:29.31 | DocScrutinizer | let's think about another usecase for dual sim: roaming |
| 16:30.19 | RST38h | well, when abroad, I have to buy a sim card and insert it anyway, so I can just as well remove my original sim |
| 16:30.25 | DocScrutinizer | get your contract sim to keep the number for people calling you. Use a local prepaid for fair tariff when calling out |
| 16:30.48 | RST38h | again, people send me email :) |
| 16:30.58 | RST38h | is more interested in data rates than voice rates |
| 16:31.11 | RST38h | (and EU data rates suck moose balls =() |
| 16:31.30 | ioeee-N900 | se despide de todos y cierra o/ |
| 16:31.31 | jaska | tyrannousaur testicles |
| 16:31.49 | Trizt | RST38h; so you use open wlans? |
| 16:32.43 | DocScrutinizer | hmmm, 25EUR for 5GB/month here |
| 16:32.56 | DocScrutinizer | prepaid |
| 16:33.15 | *** join/#maemo wazd (~Miranda@80-240-220-132.dnat.migtel.ru) |
| 16:33.30 | Trizt | thats robbery when data is un-prioritized traffic |
| 16:35.56 | DocScrutinizer | errr, don't see the point. I get HSPA and even can do (SIP-)VoIP. It's not really different to the cost for a DSL |
| 16:37.13 | *** join/#maemo siriusnova (~siriusnov@84.235.75.20) |
| 16:37.29 | Trizt | DSL here don't have traffic limits, but data transfer for phonesubscriptions seems to have that (they limit your speed to silly if you use more) |
| 16:38.03 | *** join/#maemo Arkenklo (arkenklo@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-thwrxnieckohyair) |
| 16:38.33 | DocScrutinizer | yup, but 5GB is more than enough for me |
| 16:39.30 | Trizt | 5G thats what I would spend on a day |
| 16:39.51 | DocScrutinizer | o.O |
| 16:39.58 | RST38h | Trizt: I use normal GPRS or wlan when available |
| 16:40.33 | RST38h | DocS: Except when you come to a country (let us say Greece or Lithuania) you cannot get this rate by just buying a ISM |
| 16:41.00 | RST38h | DocS: The rate you get is something like $12/MB |
| 16:41.07 | MohammadAG | wow, steep price <DocScrutinizer> hmmm, 25EUR for 5GB/month here |
| 16:41.17 | MohammadAG | and i thought IL was expensive |
| 16:41.46 | Stskeeps | pokes the mbx driver guy |
| 16:42.18 | RST38h | DocS: which goes down to $1.50/MB after long negotiations |
| 16:42.31 | *** join/#maemo eocanha (~eocanha@130.152.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 16:43.05 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: yes, I know about these. Everybody using these rates is insane |
| 16:44.35 | *** join/#maemo Aquarina (~Aquarina@bl7-101-234.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 16:44.35 | SpeedEvil | For $12/M - I want the internet to be fully spell, and style corrected as I download it. |
| 16:45.48 | Trizt | would want free meals on top of that |
| 16:45.53 | *** join/#maemo theworldofbrad (~bradcarra@bas4-hamilton14-1096566703.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 16:46.13 | *** part/#maemo theworldofbrad (~bradcarra@bas4-hamilton14-1096566703.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 16:46.19 | satmd | pays 30â¬/m for 6mbit dsl with 3 disconnects/day |
| 16:46.37 | satmd | so don't complain :< |
| 16:46.53 | Trizt | I would complain if me was you |
| 16:47.03 | SpeedEvil | pays $20/mo for 0.5mbit dsl with 2 disconnects/day |
| 16:47.49 | RST38h | pays $14/mo for 100mbd ethernet |
| 16:48.02 | SpeedEvil | well - it's 1.8 most of the time - but throttled due to the 0.5% of the time it's at 512 |
| 16:48.05 | Trizt | pays <â¬30/m for 30mibt and he can decide himslef when he wants to disconnect |
| 16:49.26 | *** join/#maemo Firebird (~Firebird@pool-138-88-215-39.res.east.verizon.net) |
| 16:50.02 | uhsf | me i can't afford any data in canada it's too expensive |
| 16:50.39 | uhsf | i only use cable at home and wifi at school |
| 16:59.48 | uhsf | btw, does anyone here know if rogers still offers a 100$ prepaid voice that is good for one year? |
| 16:59.57 | GAN900 | Hey, at least it's not Comcast! :P |
| 17:01.50 | RST38h | hasn't comcast renamed itself? |
| 17:01.54 | *** join/#maemo siriusnova (~siriusnov@ded.khan.su) |
| 17:02.38 | Hukka | what's this... I've gotten "sim registration failed" now twice today |
| 17:02.56 | Hukka | each requiring a reboot to get network back |
| 17:03.14 | GAN900 | RST38h, dunno, still says Comcast on the bill. |
| 17:03.45 | *** join/#maemo snostorm (~snostorm@cpc1-harg4-2-0-cust983.7-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:06.03 | *** join/#maemo myosound (~myosound@173-13-200-50-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 17:06.05 | *** join/#maemo sepultina (~quassel@zux221-074-102.adsl.green.ch) |
| 17:07.00 | *** join/#maemo LuciusMare (~LuciusMar@187.110.broadband4.iol.cz) |
| 17:07.08 | LuciusMare | hello, what is [omap2_mcspi] ? It takes 25% of my cpu |
| 17:07.34 | libben | google it =) |
| 17:07.40 | libben | and u will find out probably |
| 17:08.27 | *** join/#maemo penguinbait (~mlewis@c-98-209-247-133.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 17:08.33 | *** join/#maemo Xisdibik (~Xisdibik@c-24-5-197-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 17:08.40 | LuciusMare | meh. |
| 17:08.41 | LuciusMare | thanks |
| 17:10.26 | SpeedEvil | A nice annotated process list would be nice |
| 17:10.43 | ifreq | annotated? humm |
| 17:10.56 | SpeedEvil | wiki page - listing 'ps' output |
| 17:11.06 | SpeedEvil | with each line linking to an app-page |
| 17:11.53 | ifreq | ah |
| 17:12.19 | ifreq | shouldnt be so hard actually |
| 17:12.34 | ifreq | just need time and effort as always :) |
| 17:14.56 | *** join/#maemo trbs (~trbs@82-169-23-132.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 17:16.15 | GAN900 | I hate the iPhone touchscreen so much. |
| 17:17.01 | kynky | why ? |
| 17:18.12 | *** join/#maemo doubleukay-1 (~doubleuka@124-168-96-128.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 17:20.20 | LuciusMare | yes,why? |
| 17:20.52 | RST38h | BTW, there are still two cpu-load applets in the repos. Anyone knows which one is better? |
| 17:21.11 | LuciusMare | iirc, one is with screenshot and one without |
| 17:21.12 | cehteh | uses 'top' |
| 17:21.16 | LuciusMare | :) |
| 17:21.34 | cehteh | and conky sometimes |
| 17:21.43 | wazd | RST38h: any news from Roman btw? |
| 17:22.05 | kynky | htop ftw |
| 17:22.26 | cehteh | plain top |
| 17:22.31 | RST38h | wazd: No, I have been out of touch with him for a while |
| 17:22.48 | GAN900 | kynky, because it's freaking useless. |
| 17:22.53 | cehteh | top -d300 |
| 17:23.06 | GAN900 | kynky, impossible to do anything requiring any precision. |
| 17:24.31 | kynky | well thats a problem with capacitive afaik, resistive better for precision (generally) , i do like the fact you dont need to apply any pressure on capacitive, but hae never used an iphone, i prefer resistive anyway atm |
| 17:26.36 | cehteh | the n900 is really quite sensitive, you need little pressure but i prefer that over accidental inputs.. |
| 17:27.01 | RST38h | In N900 UI, there is pretty much no difference between click and slide |
| 17:27.02 | cehteh | not to tell about the improved precision, glove and pen friendly |
| 17:27.20 | RST38h | It is a freaking minefield: I accidentally click stuff in MicroB half the time |
| 17:27.54 | cehteh | rarely happens to me |
| 17:28.26 | cehteh | well the click could be little more explicit, maybe configureable |
| 17:28.57 | cehteh | as in distance, pressure (dunno how well pressure sensitivity works) and time |
| 17:29.40 | red | RST38h: same problem |
| 17:29.53 | red | might be lack of pressure for me since im used to capacitive |
| 17:30.00 | red | but damn annoying |
| 17:30.06 | red | id prefer having to click links twice |
| 17:30.10 | wazd | \ |
| 17:31.00 | RST38h | red: The guy who made MediaBox solved this by providing buttons to click |
| 17:31.08 | RST38h | anything outside these buttons lets you scroll |
| 17:31.24 | red | im using mediabox |
| 17:31.33 | red | i get alot of accidentals in it too |
| 17:31.51 | red | is it a setting that has come via updates? |
| 17:32.19 | *** join/#maemo adalal (~aritra@cpc3-clif8-2-0-cust174.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:34.09 | *** join/#maemo dwwdewd (~KSAWde@95.66.37.112) |
| 17:35.43 | *** part/#maemo dwwdewd (~KSAWde@95.66.37.112) |
| 17:36.19 | doubleukay-1 | RST38h: hey, I isntalled cpumem-applet. didn't really find it useful, it shows 3 blocks in the status area (where the battery and network icons go). so it's only visible when you are on the dashboard, which is to say, hardly useful at all. besides, it updates too slowly. |
| 17:37.12 | SpeedEvil | I find it very useful |
| 17:38.16 | *** join/#maemo joejoe (~imlich@2001:718:802:80c:21c:c0ff:fe18:9398) |
| 17:38.19 | doubleukay-1 | personally I prefer firing up conky/top/top-over-ssh when I need it |
| 17:40.43 | RST38h | doublekay: I see =( |
| 17:40.57 | RST38h | then the second one is the one to use |
| 17:41.08 | doubleukay | what is it called? |
| 17:41.20 | RST38h | osso-cpu-load I think |
| 17:41.24 | *** join/#maemo spectre- (~n900@41.202.225.145) |
| 17:41.52 | doubleukay | hm I don't have it here. what repository is it in? |
| 17:42.59 | joejoe | it is possible to set jabber status according to essid of access point on which i am connected? |
| 17:45.37 | *** join/#maemo VDVsx (~Valerio@Maemo/community/council/VDVsx) |
| 17:45.47 | Lumpio- | Of course it's possible. |
| 17:46.13 | *** join/#maemo ph1l (~ph1l@228-226.62-188.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 17:46.21 | *** join/#maemo leandroal (~leandro@200.223.178.254) |
| 17:50.00 | joejoe | Lumpio-, i mean is there any checkbox in configuration to do this automatically? |
| 17:50.15 | *** join/#maemo mfinkle (~mfinkle@81.253.94.0) |
| 17:50.40 | RST38h | manages to boot ZX Format on Speccy |
| 17:50.52 | Lumpio- | That, I'm not aware of. |
| 17:52.26 | *** join/#maemo thopiekar (~thopiekar@p57A157B9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:52.37 | *** join/#maemo juergbi (~juerg@84-73-60-247.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 17:54.04 | *** join/#maemo scr4ve (~scr4ve@unaffiliated/scr4ve) |
| 17:55.12 | doubleukay | hm do you guys use anything for music syncing? mine's in a regular directory structure (i.e. not itunes or anything) |
| 17:55.33 | doubleukay | a lot of the music's in flac, so something that automatically transcodes them before putting them onto the n900 would be good |
| 17:59.19 | tank-man | if you have the space for flac files, why not flac+mp3 |
| 18:00.05 | RST38h | No flac decoder in Maemo5? |
| 18:00.31 | doubleukay | I'm sure there is, but I have more GBs of music than I have storage on the n900 |
| 18:00.50 | SpeedEvil | doubleukay: All legally purchased? |
| 18:01.03 | doubleukay | I neither confirm nor deny anything ;) |
| 18:01.12 | pekuja | are you really going to be able to tell the difference with a portable player? |
| 18:01.16 | DocScrutinizer | sure there's a flac decoder |
| 18:01.39 | derf | find . -name \*.flac -exec 'oggenc -q4.99' should do fine. |
| 18:02.52 | derf | Err, 'oggenc -q4.99 {};', I mean. |
| 18:03.56 | doubleukay | might just end up doing something like that as a last resort |
| 18:04.38 | *** join/#maemo rdorsch (~rd@p5B201BF3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:05.17 | *** join/#maemo MohammadAG_ (~MohammadA@62.219.120.20) |
| 18:05.25 | RST38h | pekuja: yes |
| 18:05.33 | RST38h | pekuja: hint: start with percussion |
| 18:05.48 | *** join/#maemo aal (~Trinity_@95.66.33.194) |
| 18:05.58 | MohammadAG_ | does anyone see the problem where you can't paste in xchat? |
| 18:06.22 | *** join/#maemo cpasjuste (~cpasjuste@mydedibox.fr) |
| 18:06.26 | cpasjuste | hi |
| 18:06.42 | doubleukay | pekuja: I wouldn't be able to, for a reasonably-encoded file, listened in portable situations. |
| 18:07.02 | cpasjuste | could someone help me with my first application (wesnoth) for the n900 ? impossible to correctly execute it from the application menu ... it's totally silly |
| 18:07.09 | cpasjuste | my sdl application is not launching from application menu. I added (i think) correct .desktop, the exec path is right, the application launch correctly from terminal under the "user" account |
| 18:07.17 | *** join/#maemo choppa (~chigge@mnch-4d04376e.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 18:07.23 | cpasjuste | i did replace my binary ( exec ) with a script that echo to a file, and nothing is echo"ed" so i guess the script isnt executed at all when launching my application from the application menu |
| 18:15.32 | *** join/#maemo onen|openBmap (~quassel@vbo91-1-89-87-201-85.dsl.club-internet.fr) |
| 18:23.37 | MohammadAG_ | DocScrutinizer / DocScrutinizer51 u there mate? |
| 18:23.47 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 18:23.53 | DocScrutinizer | wazzup? |
| 18:24.07 | MohammadAG_ | nm mate, just helping someone set their N900 up |
| 18:24.17 | MohammadAG_ | and I gave him your method for xchat notifications |
| 18:24.25 | MohammadAG_ | it's just not working for him |
| 18:24.27 | DocScrutinizer | aah :-) |
| 18:24.35 | DocScrutinizer | ohh :-/ |
| 18:24.46 | MohammadAG_ | <Bash> " is badly formedtem " |
| 18:24.46 | MohammadAG_ | <Bash> ' leep: invalid number ' 10 |
| 18:24.53 | MohammadAG_ | sh notify.sh outputs that |
| 18:25.05 | *** join/#maemo hardaker (~hardaker@mail.hardakers.net) |
| 18:25.17 | MohammadAG_ | DocScrutinizer, http://i49.tinypic.com/of9c7n.png |
| 18:26.32 | DocScrutinizer | missing shebang? |
| 18:26.59 | MohammadAG_ | shewhat? |
| 18:27.02 | MohammadAG_ | http://pastebin.com/d1476f7d4 |
| 18:27.40 | MohammadAG_ | oh the #! |
| 18:27.44 | MohammadAG_ | it's there |
| 18:29.16 | DocScrutinizer | ^M vs ^R issue? (edited file on dos or mac?) |
| 18:29.32 | *** join/#maemo DarkunderdoG (DarkundeR@unaffiliated/darkunderdog) |
| 18:29.35 | MohammadAG_ | no, he downloaded it off pastebin |
| 18:30.32 | DocScrutinizer | pastebin has unwanted linebrakes |
| 18:30.35 | *** join/#maemo eocanha (~eocanha@130.152.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 18:30.50 | DocScrutinizer | it seems |
| 18:31.05 | *** part/#maemo DarkunderdoG (DarkundeR@unaffiliated/darkunderdog) |
| 18:33.49 | DocScrutinizer | i suggest ls -l ./notify.sh; file ./notify.sh (if that exists); and check for the linebreaks in the dbus lines |
| 18:34.32 | *** join/#maemo maromader (~maromader@pc-48-228.ds.gumed.edu.pl) |
| 18:34.36 | maromader | hi |
| 18:34.51 | *** join/#maemo MohammadAG_ (~MohammadA@62.219.120.20) |
| 18:34.55 | DocScrutinizer | the output from http://i49.tinypic.com/of9c7n.png is really weird |
| 18:35.26 | *** join/#maemo panaggio (~panaggio@200-158-190-11.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 18:37.01 | MohammadAG_ | it made me <MohammadAG_> o.O too DocScrutinizer :P |
| 18:39.43 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG_: please advice Bash to do "ls -l ./n*" and "cat ./notify.sh" |
| 18:39.55 | *** join/#maemo rlinfati (~rlinfati@net-93-147-31-242.t2.dsl.vodafone.it) |
| 18:40.38 | DocScrutinizer | ahh, plus "id" please |
| 18:43.19 | *** join/#maemo N900evil (~Speedevil@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 18:43.58 | *** join/#maemo tonikitoo (~tonikitoo@200.182.121.225) |
| 18:45.49 | *** join/#maemo PaulFert1er_ (~pavel@ppp83-237-106-113.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 18:46.29 | *** join/#maemo N900evil (~Speedevil@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 18:46.45 | cehteh | mhm found a way to disable blinking after the user responds |
| 18:47.14 | cehteh | was thinking about making a xchat plugin for notifications |
| 18:47.46 | N900evil | is playing with xchat keymaps |
| 18:47.59 | cehteh | ah keymaps .. have to setup emacs ... |
| 18:48.14 | maromader | any fallout fans around? |
| 18:48.37 | *** join/#maemo radic (~radic@p4FDA81A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:49.13 | SpeedEvil | http://www.mauve.plus.com/keybindings.conf - shift-blue-0-9 = chan 9-0 |
| 18:50.13 | SpeedEvil | shift-zoom move a tab up and down in the list. shift up-down go to nex/prev tab. shift-left goes 'back' - well reconnects to server. shift-right completes a nick |
| 18:50.28 | *** join/#maemo unixSnob (~unixSnob@starfury.spearlink.com) |
| 18:51.43 | DocScrutinizer | shift-l/r is mapped to highlight by default. I don't like to lose that |
| 18:53.25 | SpeedEvil | highlight? |
| 18:56.17 | *** join/#maemo mece (~mece@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe3fdc00-44.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 18:56.52 | DocScrutinizer | mark text |
| 18:57.19 | DocScrutinizer | ctrl-l/r is jump word |
| 18:57.23 | *** join/#maemo joppu_ (~joppu@cs181240191.pp.htv.fi) |
| 18:57.29 | MohammadAG_ | DocScrutinizer, http://pastebin.com/m33ae300f |
| 18:57.32 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 18:57.36 | DocScrutinizer | all highly convenient |
| 18:57.42 | MohammadAG_ | root is the root of all problems there eh? |
| 18:57.48 | SpeedEvil | I diddn't have a problem selecting text with fingers |
| 18:58.37 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG_: seems so |
| 18:59.08 | MohammadAG_ | chown? |
| 18:59.16 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 18:59.27 | DocScrutinizer | then exit !! |
| 19:00.00 | DocScrutinizer | using root account for no good reason is silly and deprecated |
| 19:02.28 | MohammadAG_ | DocScrutinizer, how can he change the group? |
| 19:02.45 | MohammadAG_ | it's 1 user (user) root (group_ |
| 19:02.49 | MohammadAG_ | )* |
| 19:03.07 | DocScrutinizer | chown [OPTION]... [OWNER][:[GROUP]] FILE... |
| 19:07.09 | *** join/#maemo polac (~polac@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fecaf900-166.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 19:07.29 | *** join/#maemo PaulFertser (~PaulFerts@aein-1-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 19:08.30 | *** join/#maemo Guest17851 (~Pangeran_@95.66.33.194) |
| 19:08.50 | MohammadAG_ | DocScrutinizer, same problem |
| 19:09.14 | DocScrutinizer | weird |
| 19:09.28 | MohammadAG_ | <Bash> ./notify.sh: not found |
| 19:09.40 | DocScrutinizer | I don't even get the nature of this problem |
| 19:09.47 | MohammadAG_ | <MohammadAG_> sh notify.sh |
| 19:09.52 | MohammadAG_ | <Bash> method return sender =:1.8 -> dest=:1.510 reply_serial=2 |
| 19:09.52 | MohammadAG_ | <Bash> 'leep: invalid number '10 |
| 19:10.01 | MohammadAG_ | oh wait |
| 19:10.09 | MohammadAG_ | 'leep should be sleep |
| 19:10.17 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 19:10.18 | MohammadAG_ | why is it 'leep |
| 19:10.49 | DocScrutinizer | it's croppled fubar. I guess a non-prinatbe error reply of dbus-send causing that |
| 19:11.14 | DocScrutinizer | non-printable |
| 19:12.02 | *** join/#maemo spectre- (~n900@41.202.225.147) |
| 19:14.28 | DocScrutinizer | you should insert a "echo -n A; sleep 1;echo x" for 1. and then every second line |
| 19:20.38 | satmd | I wonder if there's a way to make the phone software prefer sip over cellular |
| 19:20.55 | satmd | the wiki didn't tell me or I use the wrong terms to seatch |
| 19:20.58 | satmd | *search |
| 19:21.43 | *** join/#maemo smaug___ (~chatzilla@cs181150024.pp.htv.fi) |
| 19:22.14 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG_: or a 'set -v -x' as first line |
| 19:23.52 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG_: I really doubt that notify.sh is wellformed |
| 19:24.46 | MohammadAG | I gave him my file |
| 19:24.56 | MohammadAG | oh wait, I made another one |
| 19:25.04 | MohammadAG | I'll upload him my own file, seeing as mine works fine |
| 19:25.43 | DocScrutinizer | I suggest you avoid c&p from pastebin |
| 19:26.42 | *** part/#maemo Myrtti (myrtti@ubuntu/member/myrtti) |
| 19:26.42 | *** join/#maemo Myrtti (myrtti@ubuntu/member/myrtti) |
| 19:27.04 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, uploiading it to my RS |
| 19:27.16 | MohammadAG | so the file should stay the same |
| 19:29.12 | *** join/#maemo thopiekar (~thopiekar@p57A157B9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:30.46 | *** join/#maemo RevdKathy (~RevdKathy@5ace03a9.bb.sky.com) |
| 19:32.01 | Hukka | Heh, Philip Van Hoof must be a relative of Zumba (he posted on planet maemo :) |
| 19:35.00 | *** join/#maemo davyg (~davyg@dau94-9-88-178-191-172.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:36.03 | *** join/#maemo n1c0 (~n1c0@unaffiliated/n1c0) |
| 19:37.56 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, my file worked :) |
| 19:38.12 | MohammadAG | looks for a pastebin alternative |
| 19:39.02 | n1c0 | hello, is it possible to export wireless key from n900 to computer? |
| 19:40.35 | *** join/#maemo angasule (~angasule@190.176.237.196) |
| 19:40.52 | MrGoose1 | MohammadAG: take a screenshot and use imagehost |
| 19:40.54 | MrGoose1 | :P |
| 19:41.39 | MohammadAG | and for copy and paste? :p |
| 19:41.46 | Wolfie | MohammadAG: gist.github.com? |
| 19:42.11 | MrGoose1 | you didnt ask for that |
| 19:44.32 | MohammadAG | well pastebin supports c&p, and so should an alternative |
| 19:44.37 | MohammadAG | I'd rather upload files now |
| 19:44.48 | MohammadAG | seeing as pastebin and other sites add text |
| 19:46.33 | smaug___ | is there some easy way to cause M900 to beep? |
| 19:46.39 | *** join/#maemo croppa (~stuart@135.27.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 19:46.42 | smaug___ | in some perl script or something |
| 19:46.50 | smaug___ | hmm, does perl run on N900 |
| 19:46.57 | smaug___ | if not that, perhaps python |
| 19:47.30 | smaug___ | would like to get notified when some specific kind of email arrives |
| 19:48.05 | smaug___ | timeless: you might know |
| 19:52.21 | Markus23 | smaug___: just play an beep sound? |
| 19:52.30 | Markus23 | smaug___: perl and python is available |
| 19:52.40 | Markus23 | but perl modules are somewhat stripped down |
| 19:53.29 | smaug___ | I think I'd want to check some IMAP email subjects |
| 19:53.54 | smaug___ | and beep if I find something interesting |
| 19:54.17 | smaug___ | (in this case something like : tinderbox is burning: fix it!) |
| 19:54.41 | *** join/#maemo type_t (~markwire@c-98-228-74-254.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 19:54.55 | Markus23 | your questions are very confusing and seem unrelated |
| 19:55.48 | doubleukay | smaug___: not sure if it helps, but there's - usage: play-sound <sound file> |
| 19:55.57 | smaug___ | the question is about beep |
| 19:56.08 | smaug___ | ah, play-sound sounds good |
| 19:56.25 | MohammadAG | but... |
| 19:56.30 | MohammadAG | it bypasses the volume control |
| 19:56.38 | smaug___ | even better |
| 19:57.05 | smaug___ | I want something which wakes me up |
| 20:00.13 | MohammadAG | lol |
| 20:00.29 | MohammadAG | make sure you don't have the headset on then :p |
| 20:01.11 | doubleukay | that's a good point |
| 20:01.43 | *** join/#maemo swc|666 (~infidel20@unaffiliated/swc666/x-4934821) |
| 20:03.05 | *** join/#maemo eocanha (~eocanha@130.152.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 20:03.15 | *** join/#maemo ioeee (~Emilio@193.Red-81-39-204.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:09.08 | *** join/#maemo asyncritus (~Timon@host-091-097-028-238.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 20:16.30 | *** join/#maemo henkie- (~henkie@5571fe92.ftth.concepts.nl) |
| 20:17.30 | henkie- | Hi, is there a simple way to associate a shell script with a mimetype (for using in the browser) |
| 20:17.47 | henkie- | creating a desktop entry with the associated mimetype didnt work for me |
| 20:18.06 | henkie- | it says the filetype is not supported |
| 20:18.28 | henkie- | using maemo5 |
| 20:20.44 | *** join/#maemo Dantonic (~david@c-24-7-146-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:21.01 | *** join/#maemo millenomi (~millenomi@93.48.144.193) |
| 20:25.34 | MohammadAG | *facepalm* http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=514797#post514797 |
| 20:29.44 | *** join/#maemo Docscrutemp (~Joerg_rw@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 20:33.38 | *** join/#maemo ph1l (~ph1l@228-226.62-188.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 20:33.42 | *** join/#maemo realitygaps (~realityga@222.52-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 20:34.53 | *** join/#maemo MohammadAG (~Maemohamm@62.219.120.20) |
| 20:34.57 | *** join/#maemo benh (~benh@54.200.49.122-static.velocitynet.com.au) |
| 20:35.40 | *** join/#maemo Docscrutemp (~Joerg_rw@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 20:36.32 | frals | any ideas on how to get what item is "selected" when using a GtkTreeView with gtk.HILDON_UI_MODE_NORMAL and a callback on tap-and-hold signal? as the ui mode disableas real selections im going crazy trying to figure out what item the menu options should be associated with |
| 20:36.48 | *** join/#maemo flo_lap (~fuchs@p57B67D4D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:36.48 | *** join/#maemo flo_lap (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian) |
| 20:37.01 | *** join/#maemo tchan (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) |
| 20:39.45 | *** join/#maemo N900evil (~Speedevil@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 20:40.03 | MohammadAG | who's an irc oper? |
| 20:40.17 | MohammadAG | GeneralAntilles? |
| 20:41.13 | *** join/#maemo SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 20:41.26 | MohammadAG | Guest17851, seems to be a spam bot |
| 20:42.31 | realitygaps | hey guys, anyone successfully managed to reconnect the usb port after it fell out of their device? |
| 20:42.55 | realitygaps | or is it not even worth trying |
| 20:43.03 | cehteh | realitygaps: no |
| 20:43.15 | MohammadAG | the port falls out? |
| 20:43.16 | henkie- | where can i get dbus-switchboard for the n900? I found a package, but wouldnt install because of a missing "maemo-select-menu-location" |
| 20:43.18 | cehteh | send it in for replacement |
| 20:43.31 | realitygaps | preproduction model so.... |
| 20:43.49 | realitygaps | but i dont think i'd buy n900 again if this isnt confirmed fixed |
| 20:43.50 | cehteh | it prolly damaged the pcb as well |
| 20:43.52 | MohammadAG | why do you have it then |
| 20:44.01 | realitygaps | MohammadAG: ? |
| 20:44.15 | realitygaps | cehteh: yep some of the pcb came out (tiny bits) |
| 20:44.20 | cehteh | grinded the charger clamps down |
| 20:44.23 | MohammadAG | why do you have the preproduction metal? |
| 20:44.31 | cehteh | at least the charger plugs easily now |
| 20:44.34 | realitygaps | MohammadAG: i was at the amsterdam summit |
| 20:44.51 | MohammadAG | oh i thought you had to return them |
| 20:44.58 | cehteh | realitygaps: it quite certainly damaged the copper connections on the pcb too |
| 20:45.00 | realitygaps | MohammadAG: not yet, in april |
| 20:45.05 | MohammadAG | in january |
| 20:45.07 | cehteh | let it be fixed by nokia/get replacement |
| 20:45.11 | MohammadAG | oh jj |
| 20:45.16 | realitygaps | cehteh: likely... i dont think theyd replace a summit model |
| 20:45.16 | MohammadAG | kk* |
| 20:45.25 | cehteh | you may try |
| 20:45.32 | realitygaps | loads and loads of n900s at fosdem this weekend :) |
| 20:45.37 | cehteh | if not you can try by yourself |
| 20:46.05 | MohammadAG | just kline Guest17851 already |
| 20:46.10 | cehteh | but otherwise around, trying to fix by yourself would quite certain void any warranty if there is one |
| 20:46.11 | MohammadAG | keeps spamming via pm |
| 20:46.20 | Stskeeps | realitygaps: good - more freerunners or more n900s? |
| 20:46.35 | realitygaps | cehteh: no warranty on preproduction (or on developer discount models as far as i remember) |
| 20:46.57 | realitygaps | Stskeeps: i noticed more n900's but lots of iphones too |
| 20:46.59 | cehteh | well maybe they still would do that as voluntary support |
| 20:47.14 | cehteh | why do you ask anyways if you dont care |
| 20:47.34 | *** join/#maemo simoneb_ (~simone@151.59.217.223) |
| 20:47.39 | realitygaps | cehteh: its possible. honestly i dont mind but im just wary to buy one if the same will happen |
| 20:47.46 | cehteh | dunno what kind of pcb the n900 has but multilayer boards are almost unfixable |
| 20:48.17 | cehteh | iirc thats not 'properly' fixed as in using a non surface mounted connector |
| 20:48.54 | realitygaps | cehteh: thanks for the info. I do care very much, the n900 is one of my favourite things ever |
| 20:49.01 | cehteh | maybe they improved the production to make it bit better but there are still reports and they exchange it on sold devices |
| 20:49.14 | MohammadAG | mine's pretty sturdy |
| 20:49.29 | cehteh | until it breaks |
| 20:49.40 | MohammadAG | hasn't moved on the inside (yet& |
| 20:49.41 | realitygaps | exactly.. mine was sturdy up until the end |
| 20:49.48 | MohammadAG | )* |
| 20:49.51 | cehteh | the soldering comes off, means its hard and then suddenly falls off |
| 20:50.18 | MohammadAG | gulps |
| 20:51.27 | cehteh | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37107&page=13 |
| 20:51.59 | realitygaps | cehteh: thx |
| 20:52.07 | shamus | maby they cut cost by not soderign all the conectiosn securely? |
| 20:52.37 | cehteh | i doubt it replacing costs more :P |
| 20:53.05 | cehteh | but they cut costy by not using a connector which crimps on the pcb |
| 20:53.10 | shamus | ok shoty conector deisne? |
| 20:53.45 | cehteh | means they designed the pcb not to have any holes not requireing holes |
| 20:54.05 | cehteh | that saves a whole manufacturing step and a lot costs |
| 20:54.52 | cehteh | http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/connecting-on-the-surface-an-n900-risk/ |
| 20:58.05 | GAN900 | Jaffa, ping? |
| 20:58.34 | GAN900 | Jaffa, date format as dd Month yyyy? |
| 20:59.09 | MohammadAG | UPDATE: Nokia reports that the problem was fixed for production devices. I do not know details |
| 20:59.13 | MohammadAG | reassuring |
| 20:59.25 | MohammadAG | gulps again |
| 20:59.38 | MohammadAG | my query assy isn't sturdy :/ |
| 21:00.04 | realitygaps | MohammadAG: not reassuring as people with production modules are having the same issues |
| 21:00.12 | realitygaps | but possibly only early production models |
| 21:00.17 | realitygaps | its still unclear |
| 21:00.18 | MohammadAG | thinking about buying a replacement for 7 euros |
| 21:00.41 | MohammadAG | mine's a late december one |
| 21:00.55 | MohammadAG | hw revision 2101 |
| 21:01.21 | *** part/#maemo MrGoose1 (~cache@5ac515cd.bb.sky.com) |
| 21:01.39 | *** join/#maemo t-tan (~tanner@g226146172.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:02.11 | MohammadAG | * Guest17851 Þã ÈÒíÇÑÊäÇ Ýí ÔÈßÉ ÇáãÍÇÏËå æ ÇÍÕá Úáì ÈæÊÇÊ + åæÓÊ ÎÇÕ æãÌÇäí ¡ äÊãäÇ ÒíÇÑÊßã ÈÃÓÑÚ æÞÊ ¡¡ äÃÓÝ ááÃÒÚÇÌ /server IRC.ForChat.Net |
| 21:02.12 | *** join/#maemo Dantonic (~david@c-24-7-146-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:02.16 | MohammadAG | :/ |
| 21:03.56 | doubleukay | that chair snagging has broken my nokia charger (the small pin type) too many times to count |
| 21:04.52 | *** join/#maemo choppa (~chigge@mnch-4d04376e.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:09.35 | *** join/#maemo newbie005 (~mythtv@pool-98-108-246-176.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 21:10.38 | newbie005 | hi, I'm trying to ssh from my n900 to a desktop which would act as the server, I can ping both ways but get a "no route to host" from the "ssh user@192.." command on the phone |
| 21:11.15 | kynky | could be lots of things , check logs on server ? |
| 21:11.50 | doubleukay | can you confirm with a "netstat -lnt" on the phone that ssh is running? |
| 21:12.00 | newbie005 | kynky: thanks I'll try it |
| 21:13.26 | newbie005 | doublekey: i et a single entry tcp 0 127.0.0.1:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
| 21:13.33 | henkie- | is there an easy way for starting a custom script when clicking on a link with an associated mime-type? (using N900) |
| 21:13.56 | *** join/#maemo millenomi (~millenomi@93.48.144.193) |
| 21:14.06 | doubleukay | newbie005: if ssh is running you should also see a - tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
| 21:14.11 | doubleukay | (note the 0.0.0.0:22) |
| 21:14.22 | doubleukay | perhaps you can check why it didn't start? |
| 21:14.25 | doubleukay | or reboot :) |
| 21:14.27 | newbie005 | I did change it to 2222 |
| 21:14.34 | doubleukay | ah I see |
| 21:15.09 | newbie005 | on the server I do see a 2222 actually 2 one in a 0.0.0.0 format and the other in :::2222 format |
| 21:15.37 | kynky | so you can connect to ssh from box it served on ? |
| 21:15.46 | *** join/#maemo Gary (gary@freenode/staff/colchester-lug.gary) |
| 21:16.19 | kynky | ssh -p 2222 user@localhost |
| 21:16.20 | newbie005 | kynky: do you mean ssh from the desktop to the desktop ? |
| 21:16.23 | uhsf | i just received the first call on my n900! |
| 21:16.40 | ljp | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.47 | doubleukay | sorry, I misunderstood that you wanted to ssh to the phone. |
| 21:16.51 | uhsf | it was my mother! |
| 21:17.01 | *** join/#maemo rom1dep_ (~c2d67224@gateway/web/freenode/x-fttzxwdnnxvwdddu) |
| 21:17.02 | kynky | ssh from phone to desktop |
| 21:17.03 | *** join/#maemo kamui__ (~KamN900@ip68-11-94-155.no.no.cox.net) |
| 21:17.16 | kynky | but check you can do it from desktop to itself first |
| 21:18.05 | uhsf | i tested my shure music phone adapter connected with my etymotics er-4 earphones and it works great |
| 21:18.05 | newbie005 | I can do it from the desktop to the desktop,, actually I get a security error about not having the public key file |
| 21:18.49 | Proteous | just figured out that the n900 remember different volume settings for headphone vs internal speakers |
| 21:18.53 | newbie005 | could it be a firewall thing with the router? |
| 21:18.59 | Proteous | just love the little things that are well thought out |
| 21:19.15 | doubleukay | newbie005: got another device to test it with? |
| 21:19.49 | doubleukay | failing which, if you undertand tcpdump's output try running it on the desktop to confirm if it's seeing a SYN to its port 2222 from the phoen |
| 21:20.05 | kynky | shouldnt be a firewll thing on router as you no crossing nets, it could be your iptables if you got that setup , allow.hosts in /etc , the listenon address in sshd.conf |
| 21:20.32 | newbie005 | doublekay: my only other computer is some windows 7 that hasn't been formatted yet |
| 21:20.44 | newbie005 | meaning it's not yet running fedora |
| 21:20.44 | kynky | try putty from win7 |
| 21:20.47 | doubleukay | don't think it's hosts.allow, as that blocks above the tcp stack |
| 21:21.12 | *** join/#maemo trem (~trem@AToulouse-256-1-4-224.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:21.27 | kynky | which ssh client u install on n900 ? |
| 21:21.34 | kynky | openssh or dropbear ? |
| 21:21.35 | yuizy | openssh |
| 21:21.46 | keesj_ | openssh |
| 21:21.48 | newbie005 | kynky: not sure, I think it was an apt-get install ssh-client |
| 21:21.53 | kynky | i only tried openssh. it works for me |
| 21:22.13 | Jaffa | GAN900: As default; but I tried to be locale sensitive (e.g. for the PUSH N900 US stuff) |
| 21:22.16 | kynky | using apt-get isnt wise i thought |
| 21:22.28 | newbie005 | is there a command to disable the firewall on the desktop? |
| 21:22.51 | newbie005 | kynky: how come? |
| 21:22.54 | kynky | iptables -F (as root) (but only do if you know what your doing) |
| 21:23.12 | newbie005 | I definatly do not know what i'm doing |
| 21:23.16 | doubleukay | newbie005: if you're sure about it, iptables -F; iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT |
| 21:23.17 | kynky | newbie005, you should really use the inbuilt package manager |
| 21:23.47 | kynky | the gui one, reduces problems |
| 21:23.47 | *** join/#maemo shdb (~shdb@80-218-240-206.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 21:24.00 | newbie005 | there is a service I can stop.. I'll try that |
| 21:24.11 | kynky | enable add repositories, but be careful which reposotories you add, some are dangerous |
| 21:24.41 | newbie005 | I'm not going to touch the test or dev repos |
| 21:24.48 | newbie005 | ok that worked |
| 21:25.10 | kynky | looks like you need to permanantly add a rule then |
| 21:25.10 | newbie005 | I did a service iptables stop on the desktop and then I could get a security error on the phone |
| 21:25.24 | newbie005 | kynky: any idea of how to do that |
| 21:25.50 | kynky | depends on how its configured |
| 21:26.09 | doubleukay | knowing your distro will be a good start.. |
| 21:26.14 | newbie005 | I'll see what I can find out |
| 21:26.16 | newbie005 | thanks!! |
| 21:26.23 | doubleukay | :) |
| 21:26.33 | kynky | could be as simple as an iptables-restore from an rc.local script, but depends on your distro |
| 21:27.02 | *** join/#maemo DangerMaus (~eeeeeeeee@tuxhacker/loft306) |
| 21:27.46 | kynky | good thing your box isnt directly connected to internet, as iptables -F , coulda made things insecure , but good you running sshd on a non default port |
| 21:30.07 | *** join/#maemo simula (~mark@c-24-16-132-121.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 21:34.49 | newbie005 | it was an iptables rule, I'm now getting a security error! woo hoo! |
| 21:36.03 | Arif_ | yawns |
| 21:36.46 | Arif_ | damn you TNT, why don't you deliver packages on Sundays ;( |
| 21:38.20 | *** join/#maemo Docscrutemp (~Joerg_rw@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 21:49.30 | newbie005 | I'm dealing with an ssh Permission denied error. I setup a public / private key file. In googling the error it was suggested that I check the permissions of thoes files. However on the phone I'm not seeing a ~/.ssh directory |
| 21:51.07 | doubleukay | how did you generate the public/private keys? |
| 21:51.21 | Vanadis | anybody installed openarene from devel? |
| 21:51.35 | Vanadis | *arena |
| 21:51.42 | newbie005 | doublekay: I dont quite remember,, I'll look it up. I had originaly set this up a month ago and I'm just coming back to it |
| 21:52.43 | kynky | Vanadis, yep |
| 21:52.45 | newbie005 | doublekay: I did a ssh-keygen -t rsa |
| 21:52.59 | doubleukay | on the phone? |
| 21:53.09 | Vanadis | kynky, any comments? is the Phone fast enough? |
| 21:53.13 | Damion2 | is nowave7 somebody on here? |
| 21:53.49 | kynky | when you install ssh server it should generat key afaik, then on client it should accept public key and store in authorised_keys file |
| 21:53.50 | newbie005 | doublekay: no on the server |
| 21:54.33 | doubleukay | newbie005: aha. what do you want to do? ssh from the phone, to the desktop which is the ssh server? |
| 21:54.38 | kynky | Vanadis, yep it fast enough, plays q3 better though, because of better textures |
| 21:54.44 | Vanadis | okay |
| 21:54.54 | doubleukay | q3 on the n900? no way :P |
| 21:54.57 | newbie005 | doublekay: yes |
| 21:54.59 | doubleukay | lemme check that out |
| 21:55.09 | doubleukay | newbie005: in that case you'd wanna run ssh-keygen on the *phone* :) |
| 21:55.10 | Vanadis | i played q3 on my old N95 |
| 21:55.28 | newbie005 | doublekay: ah ok thanks |
| 21:55.34 | kynky | n900 got more horses |
| 21:55.37 | doubleukay | you can use ssh-copy-id to transfer the key to your computer.. it's kinda convenient |
| 21:55.58 | newbie005 | doublekay: can I do this as non-root? |
| 21:55.58 | doubleukay | Vanadis: ah ok. evidently I've been out of touch with phone capabilities :( |
| 21:56.01 | doubleukay | yes |
| 21:56.18 | Vanadis | well i give q3 and openarena a try |
| 21:57.12 | zerojay | My friend came over and complained that I didn't have cable so we could watch the Superbowl. |
| 21:57.13 | *** join/#maemo Dantonic (~david@c-24-7-146-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:57.37 | zerojay | 5 minutes later, I'm streaming it from justin.tv to my 40" TV with my N900 and the video out cable. |
| 21:57.41 | zerojay | He's in love. |
| 21:57.41 | SpeedEvil | http://animal.discovery.com/tv/puppy-bowl/about.html |
| 21:57.45 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 21:58.19 | kynky | zerojay, is the image darker than it should be ? |
| 21:58.26 | simoneb_ | any pointer on how to make a transparent widget with gtk? |
| 21:58.27 | zerojay | Kind of blows my mind even that my phone can stream it better than my PS3 can. |
| 21:58.44 | zerojay | kynky: Maybe a little, but I just adjust my brightness on the TV a little bit. |
| 21:59.15 | kynky | i tried video out (pal), was a little dark |
| 21:59.33 | zerojay | Yeah, it is a little dark, but I'm not sure if it's just the stream or what. |
| 21:59.37 | N900evil | there are so many 'oh - it shlould just work moments'. |
| 22:00.00 | kynky | well you can see video on n900 at same time as tv |
| 22:00.33 | henkie- | crazy dbus! |
| 22:00.40 | kynky | heard they got sixaxis controller working with n900, so emu++ |
| 22:01.59 | simoneb_ | are those controllers laggy? or it's just the wiimote that's laggy? |
| 22:02.12 | kynky | cracked my screen on my n900 was gutted |
| 22:02.23 | uhsf | i can't even make a sixaxis work with bluetooth on arch linux |
| 22:02.32 | kynky | simoneb_, thought it should b fine |
| 22:02.35 | *** join/#maemo Sachin (~user@c-98-201-90-34.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 22:02.58 | Sachin | anyone here? |
| 22:03.03 | simoneb_ | i've read on the forum that the wiimote is imprevedibly laggy, somewhere from 20ms to 500ms ... wondered if other controllers were the same |
| 22:03.13 | kynky | luckily nokia repair centre fixed screen for modest fee |
| 22:03.21 | doubleukay | by any chance, has anyone experimented with /proc/sys/vm/swappiness? |
| 22:03.25 | kynky | you could try bt kb |
| 22:03.37 | zerojay | simoneb_: Yes, that was me that said that. I work with the Wii and yes, it's terribly laggy... and it's like that on the Wii and on devkits as well. |
| 22:03.40 | doubleukay | I noticed while dong some IO that the n900 was caching really aggressively |
| 22:04.19 | zerojay | I haven't tried the Sixaxis on the N900 yet, but I know there's no lagging when using sixaxis normally in Linux. |
| 22:04.43 | simoneb_ | zerojay: you mean that wiimotes are laggy on the wii itself? |
| 22:05.05 | Damion2 | annoyingly the current ps3 controller w/ n900 needs flashed kernel |
| 22:05.06 | zerojay | simoneb_: Wiimotes have a built-in lag to them that developers have to work around. |
| 22:05.33 | zerojay | simoneb_: And the lag is random. |
| 22:05.47 | kynky | sixaxis will be better for drnoksnes anyway |
| 22:05.49 | Damion2 | though technically that shouldn't be. bt has enough userland stuff to be used to generate keypresses |
| 22:06.07 | zerojay | Some developers wanting more precision are using the same movement prediction that you'd see in online games for the Wii. |
| 22:06.32 | zerojay | Damion2: Shouldn't be, but it is and is for all games... it's just that some people have gotten better at hiding that lag than others. |
| 22:08.49 | simoneb_ | this stuff makes me love wires |
| 22:09.00 | zerojay | No. |
| 22:09.04 | zerojay | It should make you hate the Wii. |
| 22:09.19 | *** join/#maemo Shanita (~John@g227198144.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 22:09.23 | zerojay | The other consoles don't suffer from the same problem. |
| 22:09.31 | zerojay | And the PS3 is also using Bluetooth. |
| 22:09.46 | *** part/#maemo DangerMaus (~eeeeeeeee@tuxhacker/loft306) |
| 22:10.51 | kynky | well its using bt in a slightly annoying way i thought (pairing) |
| 22:10.53 | simoneb_ | by the way.... any pointer on how to make a transparent widget with gtk? |
| 22:11.07 | Arif_ | anyone know if the Wii classic controller works with the N900? :) |
| 22:11.28 | kynky | simeoni, try cairo with a surface that supports composite ? |
| 22:11.47 | kynky | simoneb_, i mean |
| 22:12.10 | simoneb_ | kynky: cairo? i'm just trying to draw a half-transparent desktop widget :O |
| 22:12.28 | simoneb_ | kynky: with one single button and some text |
| 22:13.12 | kynky | well if it was me, i would go down o the garage and find out, simoneb_ |
| 22:13.17 | kynky | to* |
| 22:13.48 | simoneb_ | last time i went there i couldn't find the sources i wanted to peek in |
| 22:14.59 | *** join/#maemo n6pfk (~n6pfk__@pool-173-53-57-150.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net) |
| 22:16.00 | Dassu | I guess the music player doesn't have search function? |
| 22:16.07 | simoneb_ | nevermind. found them. |
| 22:16.14 | simoneb_ | Dassu: it does, just type some text |
| 22:17.45 | Dassu | oh finally I got the answe thanks |
| 22:17.53 | Dassu | simoneb_: |
| 22:18.21 | simoneb_ | you're welcome |
| 22:18.25 | *** join/#maemo wazd (~Miranda@80-240-220-132.dnat.migtel.ru) |
| 22:21.25 | *** join/#maemo `0660_ (~olli@ppp121-45-222-232.lns20.cbr1.internode.on.net) |
| 22:21.33 | kynky | crazy, my n900 stuck in portrait and desktop is weird too use like that |
| 22:21.58 | simoneb_ | that happened to me once too, but before 1.1 |
| 22:22.11 | kynky | im on pr1.1 |
| 22:22.52 | Arif_ | so no one tried a classic controller? =( |
| 22:23.02 | simoneb_ | i can't remember how i got there, i think i opened and rapidly closed an application or something like that |
| 22:23.39 | kynky | had to reboot |
| 22:24.16 | *** join/#maemo chun1 (~db@0-a0-d1-c3-1-c9.sj.esol.dur.ac.uk) |
| 22:24.37 | chun1 | Is 16GB the limit on micro-sd cards the n900 can read? |
| 22:24.42 | *** join/#maemo fab (~bellet@bellet.info) |
| 22:25.04 | Arif_ | no |
| 22:25.14 | GAN900 | zerojay, usuk |
| 22:25.32 | Arif_ | SDHC is upto 32GB |
| 22:26.26 | simoneb_ | but, will it be possibly to attach 2 ps3 controllers to the n900? |
| 22:26.31 | simoneb_ | possible* |
| 22:27.29 | ScribbleJ | IT's possible now, I'm sure. |
| 22:27.35 | ScribbleJ | They're just bluetooth HID, right? |
| 22:27.52 | *** join/#maemo wazd_ (~wazd@80-240-220-132.dnat.migtel.ru) |
| 22:29.43 | *** join/#maemo Bash1 (~Bash@94-193-105-245.zone7.bethere.co.uk) |
| 22:30.39 | *** join/#maemo Stskeeps (~chobits@Maemo/community/distmaster/Stskeeps) |
| 22:31.02 | *** join/#maemo netvandal (~netvandal@host-84-223-96-233.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 22:31.20 | *** part/#maemo chun1 (~db@0-a0-d1-c3-1-c9.sj.esol.dur.ac.uk) |
| 22:31.47 | Bash1 | hi guys |
| 22:31.56 | *** join/#maemo Flyser (~flyser@unaffiliated/flyser) |
| 22:32.07 | *** join/#maemo chun1 (~db@0-a0-d1-c3-1-c9.sj.esol.dur.ac.uk) |
| 22:32.29 | trem | nite all, sweet dreams |
| 22:32.56 | *** part/#maemo chun1 (~db@0-a0-d1-c3-1-c9.sj.esol.dur.ac.uk) |
| 22:33.19 | n1c0 | i can't switch app when i see a video :S |
| 22:34.07 | n1c0 | ican only go back to player menu to switch and i lose video connexion |
| 22:34.26 | n1c0 | is there any workaround ? |
| 22:34.40 | kynky | use mplayer ? |
| 22:35.00 | *** join/#maemo MrGoose1 (~cache@5ac515cd.bb.sky.com) |
| 22:35.13 | n1c0 | hmm gona try it but maybe not so nice integrated |
| 22:35.32 | *** part/#maemo MrGoose1 (~cache@5ac515cd.bb.sky.com) |
| 22:35.57 | kynky | it doesnt use dsp |
| 22:37.02 | Bash1 | guys ive just installed firefox on my n900 but i dont have an icon, only a blue box |
| 22:37.07 | Bash1 | is this for everyone? |
| 22:37.22 | *** join/#maemo ml-mobile (~wat@32.152.186.213) |
| 22:37.25 | fragment | Bash1: it takes a while to update |
| 22:37.45 | Bash1 | oh cool. |
| 22:37.45 | fragment | Bash1: icon cache |
| 22:37.50 | n1c0 | i ve set video bookmark, how to see files related ? |
| 22:38.02 | n1c0 | thre is nothing in .videos |
| 22:39.50 | *** join/#maemo newbie005 (~mythtv@pool-98-108-246-176.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 22:40.51 | *** join/#maemo EspadaV8_L (~espadav8@unaffiliated/espadav8) |
| 22:42.02 | *** join/#maemo adan_ (~adan@host86-149-75-96.range86-149.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:44.18 | *** join/#maemo Acedip (~ani@fedora/Acedip) |
| 22:44.24 | *** join/#maemo Dantonic (~david@c-24-7-146-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:45.43 | sar3th | hey |
| 22:45.57 | sar3th | is it possible to run a "ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, stripped" on the n900? |
| 22:46.11 | ljp | login |
| 22:46.36 | SpeedEvil | no |
| 22:46.40 | SpeedEvil | well |
| 22:46.42 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 22:46.44 | SpeedEvil | qemu |
| 22:46.44 | ljp | hmm.. wrong window. sorry |
| 22:46.48 | SpeedEvil | but you won't like the speed |
| 22:46.52 | sar3th | :( |
| 22:46.57 | sar3th | thanks SpeedEvil |
| 22:47.04 | *** join/#maemo hardaker (~hardaker@168.150.236.43) |
| 22:47.10 | SpeedEvil | the processor in the n900 is arm |
| 22:47.29 | kynky | ed and dangerous |
| 22:47.47 | luke-jr | sar3th: just recompile it |
| 22:48.17 | sar3th | luke-jr: i would do it if i could, but it's the VPN client of my university (juniper network connect), so i don't have the sourcecode |
| 22:48.30 | luke-jr | sar3th: poor logic |
| 22:48.44 | SpeedEvil | is it a VPN authenticator - or does it do the VPNstuff itself? |
| 22:48.54 | *** join/#maemo panaggio (~panaggio@200-158-190-11.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 22:49.13 | SpeedEvil | you might also try running it on a x86 box somewhere - and vpning to that |
| 22:49.16 | luke-jr | sar3th: a university shouldn't be requiring anti-freedom blobs |
| 22:49.17 | GAN900 | stabs the S60 blog |
| 22:49.58 | GAN900 | Idiots copied konttori's SNES video to their off feed. |
| 22:50.03 | GAN900 | Lamd hit whoring shit. |
| 22:50.26 | luke-jr | ponders what the cheapest ARM board is |
| 22:51.06 | sar3th | luke-jr: i agree :( |
| 22:51.27 | zerojay | GAN900: Hmm? |
| 22:51.30 | sar3th | SpeedEvil: i don't know, it's the client you use to connect into the vpn, it sets up routing and runs as a service in the background |
| 22:52.03 | *** join/#maemo plq (~plq@88.249.173.198) |
| 22:52.04 | N900evil | luke-jr, there are many sorts of arm |
| 22:52.19 | luke-jr | N900evil: so? |
| 22:52.28 | N900evil | luke-jr, from $20 or so |
| 22:52.34 | luke-jr | N900evil: where? :P |
| 22:52.37 | N900evil | arm cortex |
| 22:52.40 | kynky | luke-jr, beagleboard too expensive ? or would using qemu-arm be to silly ? |
| 22:52.50 | luke-jr | kynky: yes, beagleboard is pretty expensive |
| 22:53.13 | luke-jr | kynky: I'm thinking ordering 5-10 or so |
| 22:53.18 | luke-jr | and putting them various places |
| 22:54.47 | SpeedEvil | luke-jr: do you mean with mmu/ |
| 22:54.52 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.59 | luke-jr | SpeedEvil: yeah, don't all ARM have a MMU? O.o |
| 22:55.08 | SpeedEvil | no |
| 22:55.10 | SpeedEvil | http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=mini2440&=&_sacat=See-All-Categories |
| 22:55.15 | SpeedEvil | not the little ones |
| 22:55.32 | SpeedEvil | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/mini2440-S3C2440-ARM9-Board-3-5-TFT-LCD-Touch-Screen_W0QQitemZ120512554488QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c0f1ba5f8 |
| 22:55.36 | plq | hey, first line from my new n900 :) is there a way to send tab key to xchat to do nick completion? |
| 22:55.49 | SpeedEvil | 64K ROM, 20K RAM, 32 bit forex |
| 22:56.12 | SpeedEvil | plq: see settings -> advanced -> key-bindings |
| 22:56.32 | SpeedEvil | http://www.mauve.plus.com/keybindings.conf or |
| 22:56.35 | plq | sure, thanks. |
| 22:56.39 | SpeedEvil | and drop it in your xchat |
| 22:56.54 | SpeedEvil | shift-rightarrow does completion in that |
| 22:56.55 | GAN900 | zerojay, S60 blog reuploade konttori's SNES video as their own. |
| 22:57.08 | SpeedEvil | and shift-0-9 go to channels 0-9 |
| 22:57.26 | SpeedEvil | and stuff |
| 22:58.14 | SpeedEvil | shift up and down are pgup/down, ... |
| 22:59.46 | *** join/#maemo Vanadis (~Vanadis__@84-75-177-47.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 23:00.07 | Damion2 | sar3th: I've been impressed by the speed |
| 23:01.46 | sar3th | Damion2: i don't know much about how qemu works; does it put the qemu'd process in a sandbox-like environment or will it give plain access to the required resources? it would be useless if the client does work, but i can't use it out of qemu |
| 23:02.22 | red | http://fox.nncdn.com/nn/0/273/979/84420.jpg |
| 23:02.27 | redeeman | qemu-user will run binaries from the target architecture on the host arch |
| 23:02.34 | redeeman | typically used in chroots or for static binaries |
| 23:02.41 | Damion2 | mplayer converted an ogg to wav in 1/4 of native arm speed and toppler was about 70% |
| 23:02.42 | *** part/#maemo newbie005 (~mythtv@pool-98-108-246-176.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 23:03.06 | Damion2 | sar3th: I can probably somehow send you my binary |
| 23:03.13 | *** join/#maemo Firebird (~Firebird@pool-138-88-215-39.res.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:04.15 | Damion2 | I've been using ./qemu ./ld-linux.so.2 --library-path `pwd` ./arbitrary_binary |
| 23:04.16 | *** join/#maemo Sachin (~user@m390e36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 23:04.29 | *** part/#maemo simoneb_ (~simone@151.59.217.223) |
| 23:05.06 | *** join/#maemo fiferboy (~quassel@Maemo/community/contributor/fiferboy) |
| 23:09.19 | plq | another question, i got dosbox to run, but it reports /dev/snd/seq not found. what snd device should it be pointed to? |
| 23:09.46 | sar3th | Damion2: i assume you built qemu from source using scratchbox then? |
| 23:10.12 | Damion2 | yep |
| 23:10.51 | Damion2 | plq: I've not see sequencer in use for yonks |
| 23:11.11 | plq | yonks?? |
| 23:11.20 | Damion2 | even oss seemed to drop support in the 90s with the last wavetable soundcard |
| 23:11.38 | Damion2 | timidity and userspace libs took over |
| 23:11.52 | Damion2 | yonks = donkey's yeahs |
| 23:11.54 | Damion2 | years |
| 23:12.17 | Damion2 | you're not british are you? |
| 23:12.20 | plq | ah ok so its expected behaviour. |
| 23:12.33 | plq | nope im turkish |
| 23:12.52 | Damion2 | plq: it's suboptimal and I'm just assuming but yeah it's what I'd expect |
| 23:13.17 | plq | ok thanks a bunch. |
| 23:13.20 | *** join/#maemo fiferboy (~fiferboy@Maemo/community/contributor/fiferboy) |
| 23:13.21 | Damion2 | sar3th: I can scp the binary of qemu somewhere |
| 23:14.13 | *** join/#maemo benh (~benh@nat/ibm/x-zxqgeutooyvdcryv) |
| 23:16.59 | *** join/#maemo Maromader (~user@pc-38-228.ds.gumed.edu.pl) |
| 23:17.19 | Maromader | hello from n900 :) |
| 23:18.59 | Damion2 | hello: I'm normally using mine |
| 23:19.10 | Damion2 | s/:/, |
| 23:19.57 | zerojay | GAN900: Ugh, that's bullshit. |
| 23:20.22 | zerojay | GAN900: Feel like testing something out for me real quick? |
| 23:22.00 | *** join/#maemo mango_make (~dan@109.180.243.53) |
| 23:27.48 | mango_make | Hi guys, im trying to setup esbox, i finally have it up and running and i have the scratchbox sdk working (have sucesfully built libmpd and a qt front end im wokring on and launched it in xephyr), im running an amd64 gentoo system, ive seen varioud places state that this does not work or is not supported but i have it all up and running to the point where im trying to start the "maemo application framework" in esbox. Probem is the ok button is alwasy greyed |
| 23:27.48 | mango_make | out, i set the Build machien type to "host Machine" as im an not using a virtual machine. |
| 23:33.43 | Xisdibik | zerojay: what do u need tested? |
| 23:33.51 | *** join/#maemo Dantonic (~david@c-24-7-146-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 23:34.58 | mango_make | just realised esbox is lookin for scratchbox 1, when i have scratchbox2 up and running |
| 23:37.58 | *** join/#maemo thevibe (~thevibe@host86-156-38-64.range86-156.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:40.41 | *** join/#maemo SmilybOrg (Smily@BSN-143-112-145.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) |
| 23:40.42 | *** join/#maemo Acedip (~ani@fedora/Acedip) |
| 23:48.52 | *** join/#maemo plq (~plq@88.249.173.198) |
| 23:49.17 | *** join/#maemo crashanddie_ (~c336e713@Maemo/community/contributor/crashanddie) |
| 23:50.34 | *** join/#maemo SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 23:50.37 | *** join/#maemo N900evil (~Speedevil@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
