| 00:02.03 | *** join/#maemo BlackHand (n=yonsy@lab.aureal.com.pe) |
| 00:03.32 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/Are_You_A_Microsoft_User.jpg |
| 00:04.11 | swc|666 | nice |
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| 00:12.17 | mtnbkr | pupnik: microsoft has had a LONG history of buying/tealing/borrowing other people |
| 00:12.59 | mtnbkr | 's code (or whole companies) and then putting the "innovate" lie^H^Hable on the tech or just shelving it |
| 00:13.41 | timeless_mbp | can you guys please complain about ms somewhere else? |
| 00:13.57 | xorAxAx | yeah, complaining about nokia would be ontopic |
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| 00:14.33 | pupnik | we still don't have an *apology* for blocking *# |
| 00:15.04 | pupnik | when you can pass them straight through to the modem from cmdline |
| 00:15.18 | xorAxAx | they are not blocked, they behave differently than calls |
| 00:15.28 | pupnik | ah thanks |
| 00:15.36 | xorAxAx | you need to decode the reply |
| 00:15.47 | timeless_mbp | pupnik: *# kinda expects a ui |
| 00:15.58 | timeless_mbp | and iirc most of that is coming in 1.2 |
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| 00:17.59 | darkcool | hi i need help to find two libraries |
| 00:18.18 | darkcool | where i can download and how i can install it on my n810 |
| 00:18.52 | darkcool | ncurses-base and tcpdump |
| 00:18.59 | kamui__ | pupnik |
| 00:19.04 | kamui__ | sup G |
| 00:19.13 | derf | xorAxAx: That first image you posted is not a QR code. |
| 00:19.26 | xorAxAx | derf: oh, what is it? |
| 00:19.27 | derf | The second one requires an Ovi membership. |
| 00:19.36 | derf | xorAxAx: Datamatrix. |
| 00:19.42 | xorAxAx | is that supported? |
| 00:19.47 | pupnik | listening to great music kamui__ |
| 00:20.02 | derf | Supposedly, but it's actually multiple codes all shoved adjacent to each other. |
| 00:20.03 | kamui__ | haha, nice |
| 00:20.07 | derf | Which I'm not sure is supported. |
| 00:20.10 | hardaker | does the ovi store work on anyone's n900 yet? mine says to upgrade, but it's sort of in an odd state. |
| 00:20.14 | kamui__ | I have been unnecessarily fascinated with the Abiword port |
| 00:20.17 | derf | I didn't write the datamatrix code. |
| 00:20.18 | kamui__ | I wrote a paper just to try it out |
| 00:20.22 | hardaker | (since I had at flash it after the last upgrade trashed it) |
| 00:20.51 | darkcool | ill try to use this apt-get install ncurses-base tcpdump |
| 00:20.58 | darkcool | and doesnt work |
| 00:21.20 | niekt0 | when I do $ mplayer tv://... video1, how the hell mplayers knows the turn of n900? I doubt its parsing input from accelometers, so it must be "build in" funcionality of camera (??) |
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| 00:21.37 | SpeedEvil | umm |
| 00:21.39 | darkcool | its works |
| 00:21.47 | SpeedEvil | wonders if that was a deeply stupid question. |
| 00:22.45 | kamui__ | wonders if he's the only one who doesn't quite understand the question |
| 00:22.51 | xorAxAx | derf: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Japan-qr-code-billboard.jpg&filetimestamp=20090104110949 |
| 00:23.03 | xorAxAx | derf: thats an qr example which doesnt extract the url correctly |
| 00:23.28 | xorAxAx | derf: also i would like to have a feature which opens google with the number extracted from barcodes |
| 00:24.55 | derf | xorAxAx: It decodes fine here with zbar. |
| 00:25.07 | xorAxAx | derf: yes, but then it doesnt chop the message |
| 00:25.09 | niekt0 | well, when I do mplayer tv:// /dev/video1, I see myself upside down (in |
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| 00:25.24 | xorAxAx | derf: but it passes the full message to the browser |
| 00:25.28 | xorAxAx | which is more than the url |
| 00:25.28 | darkcool | i have kismet with gps |
| 00:25.34 | derf | xorAxAx: Ah, I see. |
| 00:26.13 | niekt0 | "vertical" mode, even when I turn mobile. I can fix it by som scwitch to mplayer, but where is this "inteligence" done? |
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| 00:29.01 | kamui__ | niekt0, odd. When run mplayer on the video device, I see the 5mp camera's image, normal inversion |
| 00:29.09 | kamui__ | what is the exact command you're typing |
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| 00:29.32 | kamui__ | that would describe the default output of the front vga camera |
| 00:29.34 | villager | I think he wrote video1, not video0, so probably got the front cam |
| 00:29.38 | kamui__ | but I dont see how you get that from your command |
| 00:30.19 | kamui__ | at least for me, ANY video device is linking to the rear cam |
| 00:30.25 | kamui__ | though mirror works :) |
| 00:30.59 | niekt0 | for me, video0 is big(rear) cam, and video1 is small(front) camera |
| 00:31.44 | niekt0 | I just want to know how this get automatically flipped |
| 00:33.14 | kamui__ | niekt0, are you saying that when you rotate the phone the camera image reorients? |
| 00:34.07 | Guest21975 | question for people - anyone else suffering from bookmarks that disappear? |
| 00:34.28 | Guest21975 | I've added store.ovi.mobi about half a dozen times as a bookmark, and it just keeps on disappearing! |
| 00:34.51 | milhouse | that's better. :) |
| 00:35.09 | villager | I think I see what he means... he's holding the phone in portrait mode, which means that the video will appear rotated 90 degrees twice (once by holding it in portrait when it's really a landscape camera, and once by the mplayer also trying to display in landscape) |
| 00:35.15 | hardaker | so does store.ovi.mobi actually work for you milhouse? |
| 00:35.20 | hardaker | (cause it doesn't for me). |
| 00:35.25 | villager | hence a total of 180 degrees rotation |
| 00:35.26 | Guest10594 | hardaker: yes |
| 00:35.30 | hardaker | pats nickserv on the shoulder; good man. |
| 00:35.38 | villager | of course, that means there's no intelligence in this anywhere |
| 00:36.03 | villager | (and that is totally was a totally stupid question) |
| 00:36.04 | niekt0 | kamui__> actually, I am saying that when I turn camera upside down, the image is still same. So I cannot film someone upside down. I am not saying this is a bug, I just wonder where does it come from, and if it can be dissabled. |
| 00:36.08 | hardaker | sigh I think that means I have a half-upgraded device. |
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| 00:37.56 | Guest10594 | aha, think i've hit bug #6269 |
| 00:37.56 | povbot` | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6269 Can't reuse the name of a bookmark that has been deleted |
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| 00:38.16 | svanheulen | Hello! |
| 00:39.05 | timeless_mbp | Guest10594: so, it's not too hard to fix the locally... |
| 00:39.10 | svanheulen | Hey, anyone else here use T-Mobile with their N900? |
| 00:39.35 | Proteous | I do |
| 00:39.35 | niekt0 | svanheulen> I do |
| 00:39.44 | SpeedEvil | svanheulen: me |
| 00:40.18 | milhouse | @timeless: sorry, what do you mean? |
| 00:40.28 | timeless_mbp | milhouse: it's a text fike |
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| 00:40.32 | timeless_mbp | s/ke/le/ |
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| 00:40.38 | svanheulen | Are your guys data connections proxied? Mine wasn't until about a week ago, now I'm being proxied through Tennessee |
| 00:40.42 | timeless_mbp | you can open it in vi and get rid of the bits you don't like |
| 00:40.45 | milhouse | timeless: yes but according to that bug this is fixed in 51-1 |
| 00:41.15 | milhouse | timeless: well yes... I could... ideally i'd rather the bug was fixed :) |
| 00:41.44 | Proteous | svanheulen: what APN ARE YOU USING |
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| 00:41.56 | Proteous | er sorry bout caps |
| 00:41.56 | svanheulen | epc.t-mobile.com |
| 00:42.03 | corecode | i heard there is some service where you can upload your mp3s and then listen to them from everywhere using a flash player |
| 00:42.15 | corecode | anybody know that? |
| 00:42.18 | timeless_mbp | milhouse: so... |
| 00:42.20 | timeless_mbp | i'm running 51-1 |
| 00:42.29 | corecode | alternative to using spotify on the n900 |
| 00:42.35 | timeless_mbp | i created a bookmark by right clicking 'world' on news.google.com |
| 00:42.45 | timeless_mbp | then i went to bookmarks, right clicked 'world', and deleted it |
| 00:42.57 | milhouse | yeah, it doesn't happen straight away |
| 00:42.59 | Proteous | svanheulen: I belive they are all proxied now but you can try internet2.tmobile.com |
| 00:43.01 | timeless_mbp | then i loaded news.google.com again, right clicked again, added the bookmark again |
| 00:43.47 | timeless_mbp | milhouse: so...killall browser didn't cause my bookmark to disappear |
| 00:43.48 | Proteous | might come out somewhere closer |
| 00:44.15 | svanheulen | Proteous: well if they are all proxied it must have happened recently because it wasn't doing that a couple weeks ago |
| 00:44.17 | milhouse | timeless: I'm yet to identify the circumstances under which it disappears... could be time, or reboot |
| 00:44.40 | timeless_mbp | milhouse: so... |
| 00:44.43 | timeless_mbp | i looked at the xml file |
| 00:44.50 | timeless_mbp | i don't see a second entry for 'world' |
| 00:44.56 | timeless_mbp | just use xterm and look at the file |
| 00:45.00 | milhouse | i've created a bookmark - Mozilla Mobile Test - which is still there. It's just my "Ovi Store" (store.ovi.mobi) bookmark which won't stay put |
| 00:45.03 | timeless_mbp | if you see an interesting entry, lemme know |
| 00:45.19 | timeless_mbp | milhouse: err |
| 00:45.29 | timeless_mbp | isn't ovi store a default bookmark? |
| 00:45.35 | milhouse | timeless: what is the location of the is the file? |
| 00:45.43 | milhouse | timeless: Yes, I think it might be |
| 00:45.44 | timeless_mbp | ~/.bookmarks/MyBookmarks.xml ? |
| 00:45.51 | Proteous | svanheulen: it's hard to find good recent info on that stuff |
| 00:45.57 | timeless_mbp | anyway, congrats, you shot yourself with predefined content |
| 00:46.14 | milhouse | timeless: but come on... that's a bug, right? |
| 00:46.26 | timeless_mbp | milhouse: come on, you read the bug, right? |
| 00:46.39 | GeneralAntilles | Oh, milhouse, by the by, do you want a maemo.org cloak? |
| 00:47.23 | svanheulen | Proteous: very true |
| 00:47.45 | milhouse | timeless: yes, I'm trying to get my head around it. still can't see how this can be excused as not being something designed to confuse the hell out of the end user |
| 00:47.56 | milhouse | GA: Sure, need my postal address? ;) |
| 00:48.01 | timeless_mbp | milhouse: um |
| 00:48.13 | GeneralAntilles | milhouse, blood type, and mother's maiden name. |
| 00:48.41 | svanheulen | blood type: red |
| 00:48.45 | timeless_mbp | milhouse: anyway |
| 00:48.54 | timeless_mbp | the code they changed was to 'is duplicate bookmark' |
| 00:49.03 | timeless_mbp | which to me seems like an incredibly odd place to 'fix' it |
| 00:49.32 | timeless_mbp | if you can still trigger the problem, attach your file showing the deleted entry |
| 00:49.32 | timeless_mbp | and reopen the bug |
| 00:49.50 | milhouse | timeless: yes, "Ovi Store" is a stock bookmark and in the XML it still has the original "link.ovi.mobi" but that bookmark is no longer visible |
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| 00:50.15 | timeless_mbp | does the xml have a deleted annotation? |
| 00:50.17 | milhouse | yep |
| 00:50.19 | milhouse | value 1 |
| 00:50.28 | milhouse | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.29 | milhouse | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.29 | milhouse | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.29 | milhouse | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.29 | milhouse | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.29 | milhouse | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.31 | milhouse | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.33 | milhouse | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.36 | milhouse | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.37 | milhouse | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.39 | milhouse | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.41 | milhouse | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.52 | timeless_mbp | ... i trust you... no need to flood here |
| 00:50.55 | svanheulen | blarg, pastebin |
| 00:50.58 | milhouse | (Sorry) |
| 00:51.06 | timeless_mbp | upload your file |
| 00:51.12 | milhouse | I also have 4 more entries also titled "Ovi Store" |
| 00:51.15 | timeless_mbp | then reopen the bug, change the version to 51-1 |
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| 00:51.35 | timeless_mbp | milhouse: the problem here is that ui designers are well, stupid |
| 00:51.39 | milhouse | so basically I have 5 "Ovi Store" bookmarks, one deleted, four not deleted, none show up. |
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| 00:51.44 | timeless_mbp | and bug fixers are contracted |
| 00:52.02 | timeless_mbp | the bug was probably "fixed" w/o looking at my suggested fix :/ |
| 00:52.08 | milhouse | sigh... good to know nokia are taking this all seriously. |
| 00:52.20 | timeless_mbp | ... |
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| 00:52.32 | timeless_mbp | we wanted to drop bookmarks entirely |
| 00:52.40 | timeless_mbp | that got approved and then dropped iirc |
| 00:52.50 | timeless_mbp | which left us up a creek with some really messed up paddles |
| 00:53.04 | timeless_mbp | (and a boat with lots of holes in it) |
| 00:54.01 | torindel | ok maybe dumb question: anyother way to close openarena than via ssh? xD |
| 00:54.20 | timeless_mbp | ctrl-backspace? power key? |
| 00:54.39 | torindel | power key screws things up |
| 00:54.52 | hardaker | err... |
| 00:55.05 | hardaker | can someone tell me if "dpkg -l maemo5" lists anything for them? |
| 00:55.20 | Jef91 | "E: Build-dependencies could not be satisfied. |
| 00:55.20 | Jef91 | " - is there a way I can have it tell me which build depens it cannot find/get? |
| 00:55.28 | torindel | timeless_mbp: i.e. power key menu shows up but its not on "top layer" of clicking on touchscreen |
| 00:55.38 | timeless_mbp | hardaker: NO |
| 00:55.46 | hardaker | ok, that sort of makes me feel better. |
| 00:55.50 | timeless_mbp | torindel: awesome |
| 00:56.09 | timeless_mbp | hardaker: the package you want is something like mp-fremantle-... |
| 00:56.55 | hardaker | mp-fremantle-002-pr? |
| 00:57.45 | hardaker | see... cause the ovi store still says it's not available for my device, which means the image I flashed to the phone is, um, wrong-ish. |
| 00:57.49 | hardaker | (though it looks right-ish) |
| 00:58.45 | torindel | timeless_mbp: ctrl+backspace doesnt work |
| 00:59.12 | timeless_mbp | hardaker: what does settings>about say? |
| 00:59.18 | timeless_mbp | torindel: ctrl-shift-x? :) |
| 00:59.34 | timeless_mbp | oh, or, open the camera lens cover :) |
| 00:59.43 | SpeedEvil | hardaker: or the ovi store is broken |
| 00:59.57 | timeless_mbp | hardaker: did you try store.ovi.mobi ? |
| 00:59.59 | hardaker | 2.2009.51-1.002 |
| 01:00.05 | Jef91 | hardaker - try manually entering the store URL |
| 01:00.06 | timeless_mbp | hardaker: that's current |
| 01:00.11 | hardaker | Jef91: did that. |
| 01:00.14 | torindel | timeless_mbp: ok got it /quit from openarena console xD |
| 01:00.23 | hardaker | (that's where I get the error) |
| 01:00.26 | timeless_mbp | torindel: try the others |
| 01:00.38 | hardaker | the OVI button actually takes me to a page that says "go to the app manager to update your phone" |
| 01:00.58 | timeless_mbp | hardaker: javascript:navigator.userAgent |
| 01:00.59 | hardaker | (err... button = silly app that registers a desktop setting just to open a web page) |
| 01:01.13 | timeless_mbp | did you install something stupid like browser-useragent-hider? |
| 01:01.29 | hardaker | timeless_mbp: ahh... yes, I did. |
| 01:01.31 | hardaker | duh. |
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| 01:01.41 | hardaker | long enough ago totally forgot about it. |
| 01:01.42 | timeless_mbp | RESOLVED USERS ARE STUPID |
| 01:01.43 | hardaker | I bet that's it. |
| 01:01.55 | redeeman | timeless_mbp: no, ovi store is stupid for requiring user agent |
| 01:01.58 | timeless_mbp | please feel free to yell at ovi for being somewhat stupid |
| 01:02.17 | timeless_mbp | their help should suggest that you not forge your useragent |
| 01:02.27 | hardaker | definitely true. |
| 01:02.37 | hardaker | or better yet, they should ask you which phone you're using and let you in anyway. |
| 01:02.41 | torindel | timeless_mbp: shift+; acts as esc ^^ |
| 01:02.43 | redeeman | its absurd that they require a specific useragent |
| 01:02.46 | GeneralAntilles | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=477457 |
| 01:02.57 | timeless_mbp | redeeman: why? |
| 01:03.03 | hardaker | I don't like telling web servers which type of device I'm using. serve approved standard compliant objects to me please. |
| 01:03.06 | timeless_mbp | would you like to buy software that won't work on your device? |
| 01:03.08 | timeless_mbp | i'd be pissed |
| 01:03.23 | redeeman | easy, don't be stupid enough to try and buy if you are on the wrong store |
| 01:03.37 | timeless_mbp | redeeman: very funny |
| 01:03.39 | redeeman | i also don't automatically get custom tailored clothes at the clothe shops |
| 01:03.40 | GeneralAntilles | Gawd, Brainstorm is such a cesspool |
| 01:03.46 | redeeman | i can buy incorrect clothes |
| 01:03.59 | timeless_mbp | redeeman: i can return clothes |
| 01:04.04 | timeless_mbp | even in this stupid country |
| 01:04.13 | timeless_mbp | although, perhaps not undergarments |
| 01:04.23 | hardaker | you can return software too, they just have to trust you. |
| 01:04.33 | hardaker | I've actually done it with other companies |
| 01:04.36 | timeless_mbp | does ovi support refunds? |
| 01:04.38 | redeeman | nevertheless, if a user is stupid enough to buy something which it clearly says what is, but without looking, that is the users problem |
| 01:04.47 | timeless_mbp | rotfl |
| 01:04.52 | timeless_mbp | that's not the way users work |
| 01:04.57 | timeless_mbp | look at the indignant users here! |
| 01:05.07 | timeless_mbp | the customer is always right |
| 01:05.16 | redeeman | rofl |
| 01:05.21 | timeless_mbp | best not to allow the customer if they're going to be annoying |
| 01:05.26 | timeless_mbp | they're bad for business |
| 01:05.27 | hardaker | I think a company that offers a web site for downloading free software that they could just put in the repo is insanely stupid too |
| 01:05.41 | timeless_mbp | hardaker: there's a word for this |
| 01:05.53 | timeless_mbp | but roughly, if you register, you're good for a certain statistic |
| 01:05.58 | timeless_mbp | for about 6 months iirc |
| 01:06.10 | timeless_mbp | which means even though it's "Free" to you, you're "Valuable" to them |
| 01:06.19 | timeless_mbp | (i'm not calling this smart, i'd actually call it dishonest) |
| 01:06.23 | redeeman | not to mention they are testing their shit |
| 01:06.25 | greenfly | but "repository" doesn't sound like "App store" and everyone knows a portable device has to have an App Store |
| 01:06.42 | timeless_mbp | greenfly: and an app store can't be successful without content! |
| 01:06.49 | timeless_mbp | especially free content |
| 01:07.05 | redeeman | ofcourse with the (rumored?) policies for the ovi app store, its NEVER going to get successful |
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| 01:07.17 | hardaker | it's companies like that which remind me why I use throw-away addresses per company. |
| 01:07.19 | timeless_mbp | redeeman =~ s/its/it's/ |
| 01:07.30 | greenfly | hardaker: heh, same here |
| 01:07.36 | timeless_mbp | hardaker: i just gave my phone number to paypal |
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| 01:07.52 | redeeman | lol i used fake email and phone number aswell |
| 01:07.58 | timeless_mbp | because i'm going to arrange to block their software from firefox customers around the globe :) |
| 01:08.07 | hardaker | I loved google's requirement you give them a cellphone number to activate your developer account via SMS |
| 01:08.22 | redeeman | i didn't even check if it send me a mail, ovi store was nice enough to just let me in right after creation, no shitty activation |
| 01:08.22 | hardaker | what the purpose of that is certainly is informatiion collection. |
| 01:09.10 | torindel | hardaker: well you can always buy prepaid for 1$ and threw it away afterwards -__- |
| 01:09.47 | timeless_mbp | torindel =~ s/threw/throw/ |
| 01:09.55 | timeless_mbp | (you want future tense, not past tense) |
| 01:10.11 | timeless_mbp | (or conditional present or something) |
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| 01:10.54 | GeneralAntilles | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=481130 |
| 01:11.14 | greenfly | anyone know if the recent addition of pidgin-otr (and the main otr libs and binaries) also means OTR support in telepathy? |
| 01:11.21 | GeneralAntilles | I love stream-of-consciousness requests. |
| 01:11.51 | pillar | GeneralAntilles: heh |
| 01:13.05 | timeless_mbp | 'nakian' is that like 'naked'? |
| 01:13.50 | Xisdibik | debian without clothes? |
| 01:14.20 | greenfly | ubuntu? |
| 01:14.44 | shinkamui | nudebuntu |
| 01:15.00 | Xisdibik | hey shinka, might i ask where you are located? |
| 01:15.25 | Xisdibik | im just curious where no.no.cox.net is lol |
| 01:16.31 | Xisdibik | shinka being shinkamui |
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| 01:18.17 | pupnik | i hope the rumored good sales solves the chicken-and-egg problem with app stores |
| 01:21.04 | vip- | Im gonna order an n900 this week :D |
| 01:21.07 | vip- | pretty excited |
| 01:23.39 | shinkamui | Xisdibik, New Orleans |
| 01:24.03 | shinkamui | well, you' |
| 01:24.06 | shinkamui | re not in the US |
| 01:24.14 | shinkamui | cox is a cable provider here |
| 01:24.37 | shinkamui | anyway Im off to th gym, cheers to you guys |
| 01:24.54 | shinkamui | anyone who hasn't tried the new abiword release needs to get that sh1t installed |
| 01:24.55 | Jef91 | The N900 really needs a Pandora Radio app |
| 01:24.57 | shinkamui | its fantastic |
| 01:24.59 | Jef91 | ones things I really miss |
| 01:25.02 | shinkamui | Jef91, second |
| 01:25.06 | shinkamui | but I hear spotify is good |
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| 01:25.13 | shinkamui | I have yet to try it though, since its not available here |
| 01:25.15 | Jef91 | spotify? |
| 01:25.26 | shinkamui | I hear its a pandora where you can selectively listen to what you want |
| 01:25.37 | Jef91 | ahh kinda like grooveshark |
| 01:25.48 | shamus | grooveshark is nice |
| 01:25.49 | Jef91 | I like pandora exactly because I don't have to pick what I listen to... |
| 01:26.11 | jebba | hey Jef91 is abiword optified? sry too lazy to check myself ;) |
| 01:26.12 | Jef91 | and running pandora via flash in the browser lags hardcore |
| 01:26.25 | Jef91 | jebba - not sure, that one in the repos is not my port |
| 01:26.25 | milhouse | shinkamui: is abiword in maemo.org? |
| 01:26.41 | shinkamui | I think its in extras-devel atm |
| 01:26.42 | shamus | is there any chance of geting abiword to work on the old n800? |
| 01:26.42 | Jef91 | Although I am now killing mine since someone else beat me to it lol |
| 01:26.44 | shinkamui | I just noticed it today |
| 01:26.56 | shinkamui | shamus, I thought there was already an N800 port of abiword |
| 01:27.00 | Jef91 | the abiword port in the repos is solid though - works very well |
| 01:27.02 | shamus | ther is? |
| 01:27.10 | shinkamui | IIRC shamus there is |
| 01:27.16 | jebba | ah, ok i thought it was yours |
| 01:27.18 | milhouse | shinkamui: thanks. hopefully it will make it to maemo.org soon enough |
| 01:27.21 | shamus | what repository? |
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| 01:27.27 | shamus | chinook? |
| 01:27.40 | Xisdibik | shinkamui: im from the US though, im just in japan for 2 weeks ;) |
| 01:27.43 | shinkamui | milhouse, Im not sure if its even optified, but it works pretty flawlessly, I wrote a very complex document today as a test |
| 01:27.54 | shinkamui | Xisdibik, where are you from? |
| 01:28.03 | Xisdibik | shinkamui: San Francisco Bay Area |
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| 01:28.09 | shinkamui | oh, nice |
| 01:28.17 | shinkamui | Im hoping to move further west soon |
| 01:28.20 | shinkamui | haven' tbeen to Sanfran yet |
| 01:28.25 | Xisdibik | west is the best ;) |
| 01:28.30 | shinkamui | but that would be a nice place to settle down |
| 01:28.31 | milhouse | shinkamui: watch out you don't run out of rootfs :) |
| 01:28.38 | Xisdibik | its a tad expensive though |
| 01:28.42 | Xisdibik | anyways im heading out of the hotel now |
| 01:28.50 | Xisdibik | ill be online again sometime, or when im back in the states on thursday |
| 01:28.54 | shinkamui | milhouse, I constantly monitor mine :) when in doubt, I use the optify script to relink packages |
| 01:29.01 | ml-mobile | hey Xisdibik have you gotten the anthy-based IME to work? |
| 01:29.05 | Jef91 | however the abiword port lacks spell checking... |
| 01:29.08 | ml-mobile | gah |
| 01:29.09 | shinkamui | ok, GYM time :) |
| 01:29.10 | shinkamui | bbl |
| 01:29.21 | Jef91 | (red lines everything for me) and it doesn't play well with auto word complete |
| 01:29.29 | Xisdibik | ml-mobile: i havnt tried yet |
| 01:29.38 | ml-mobile | ok |
| 01:29.39 | Xisdibik | ml-mobile: i fubared my phone in the SF airport and had to reflash in japan |
| 01:29.43 | Xisdibik | not gonna go down that route again |
| 01:29.44 | ml-mobile | doh |
| 01:29.45 | Xisdibik | until im home |
| 01:30.12 | Xisdibik | but i was happy to see it in the repos |
| 01:30.16 | Xisdibik | so im gonna test it a bunch when im home |
| 01:30.22 | ml-mobile | cool |
| 01:30.40 | Xisdibik | i also dont have wifi at this hotel and most of the places ive been staying |
| 01:30.43 | Xisdibik | they just have LAN connections |
| 01:31.08 | Xisdibik | anyways off i go |
| 01:31.08 | Xisdibik | ttyl |
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| 01:32.17 | Jef91 | No wifi? That would kill me |
| 01:33.22 | shamus | ok i know this might be a sill question but what are the odds of a text based sl client with voice suport? |
| 01:33.59 | SpeedEvil | sl? |
| 01:34.02 | ml-N900 | hmm |
| 01:34.14 | shamus | second life |
| 01:34.41 | ml-N900 | it installed without issue on my phone, guess the sdk environment isn't quite the same for some packages |
| 01:34.41 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 01:34.50 | SpeedEvil | I have never sl'd. |
| 01:34.58 | SpeedEvil | I've not played the first one through yet. |
| 01:35.25 | Jef91 | "deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian lenny main" |
| 01:35.32 | Jef91 | is that the only URL for the lenny repos? |
| 01:35.38 | Jef91 | Or are there others for extra software? |
| 01:35.52 | jebba | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main |
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| 01:36.09 | jebba | deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main |
| 01:36.23 | Jef91 | whats that second one jebba? |
| 01:36.30 | AndrewFBlack2 | X-Fade, Ping |
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| 01:40.00 | jebba | http://www.debian.org/volatile/ Jef91 |
| 01:46.12 | fredrin | do the new n900 come with PR1.1? |
| 01:46.38 | fredrin | witing for my n900 to restock at the local shop |
| 01:46.45 | fredrin | got a gift card i got to use |
| 01:47.17 | fredrin | 29. jan will be a good day |
| 01:47.20 | fredrin | :D |
| 01:47.22 | SpeedEvil | doesn't really matter. |
| 01:47.27 | fredrin | i know |
| 01:47.29 | SpeedEvil | upgrade is painless |
| 01:47.34 | fredrin | not for me |
| 01:47.41 | fredrin | hopefully |
| 01:47.43 | fredrin | heh |
| 01:48.07 | fredrin | can you dual boot with mer? |
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| 01:49.08 | b-man17 | fredrin: yes |
| 01:49.14 | fredrin | sweet |
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| 01:50.00 | b-man17 | btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_ETSvTAo4A&feature=sub if only they did something like that for the N900 xD |
| 01:52.17 | fredrin | sweeet, good marketing |
| 01:52.45 | b-man17 | indeed xD |
| 01:54.14 | pupnik | i liked the n900 chris cunningham ad, with the green interrogation room and the pupnik spazzing out |
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| 01:54.55 | shamus | so what dose the red pill do? is it just a easter egg or dose it basicly thro the app maniger into look at me i thjnk i realy know what im doign mode? |
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| 01:57.22 | pupnik | it's there for people who watch matrix and want to break-out of the mundane world into the light of reality |
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| 01:59.36 | SpeedEvil | There should so be blue pill mode. |
| 01:59.50 | SpeedEvil | Which starts a nokia 3310 emulator. |
| 01:59.56 | shamus | lol |
| 02:00.19 | yuizy | :D |
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| 02:01.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | lol |
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| 02:06.11 | Realcomix | hi |
| 02:06.41 | shamus | hum looks like gpe-calender dose not like my google ical as the inport fails |
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| 02:08.20 | shamus | invalid format for type "date/time" in attribute CREATED |
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| 02:08.49 | Jef91 | Does anyone know how i can figure out what package provides the file ld-linux.so.2 |
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| 02:12.04 | Jef91 | nvm found it |
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| 02:20.26 | phreck | im about to shoot myself |
| 02:20.32 | phreck | anyone used the flasher in win7? |
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| 02:20.46 | phreck | because i cant even get my n900 to go into flash mode |
| 02:20.52 | phreck | i feel like a big bag of failure |
| 02:20.56 | Realcomix | ha i couldnt get it to work |
| 02:20.58 | SpeedEvil | just linux |
| 02:21.02 | phreck | yea |
| 02:21.10 | phreck | im in ubuntu right now, about to give it another shot |
| 02:21.16 | Realcomix | just dl live ubuntu iso |
| 02:21.20 | SpeedEvil | what does it do? |
| 02:21.23 | phreck | gotta go through the install first. |
| 02:21.32 | phreck | i have a dedicated ubuntu box |
| 02:21.43 | kamui__ | me too |
| 02:21.49 | kamui__ | Im BAACK! |
| 02:25.25 | phreck | annnd im SOL due to me running 64 bit?! |
| 02:27.33 | jebba | phreck: you need 32bit libraries. Too bad the flasher isn't free software :( |
| 02:27.43 | phreck | sigh |
| 02:28.02 | jebba | There is a free software version that may work with N900: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Flash#Flashing_N900_with_0xFFFF See there for a few details |
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| 02:28.54 | matthew- | HMM, can you download podcasts from iTunes onto your n900? |
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| 02:30.40 | fredrin | can't you just apt-get something and have a flasher? |
| 02:31.00 | fredrin | like the Neo Freerunner |
| 02:31.21 | SpeedEvil | fredrin: the other side |
| 02:31.21 | fredrin | dfu-util |
| 02:31.32 | SpeedEvil | fredrin: the PC flasher is not open source |
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| 02:31.41 | jebba | fredrin: this definitely isn't a freerunner... |
| 02:31.44 | SpeedEvil | fredrin: though a linux 32 bit binary is available |
| 02:32.07 | fredrin | mmkay |
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| 02:52.09 | swc|666 | jebba, bravo @ message to the list ;) |
| 02:52.10 | hardaker | angry birds rocks |
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| 03:00.09 | xorAxAx | would something like this be possible for maemo? "On an incoming call country and if available state or city of the caller is displayed." |
| 03:00.51 | GeneralAntilles | Don't get enough non-contacts calls to make that worthwhile. |
| 03:00.56 | SpeedEvil | If you can supply the reverse directory - probably |
| 03:00.57 | jebba | xorAxAx: i once wrote a script for asterisk (which handled my calls) to do a reverse whitepages lookup of the caller and display it on google maps. heh |
| 03:01.11 | xorAxAx | hah |
| 03:01.51 | xorAxAx | the question is whether i can hook into the telephony event and augment the caller dialog with info |
| 03:02.29 | clmntch | hello |
| 03:02.32 | jebba | certainly could be done... can't think of how off the top of my head, but i still dont grok all the dbus stuff yet |
| 03:02.34 | jebba | hola |
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| 03:03.14 | xorAxAx | is currently developing a rule driven dwid daemon |
| 03:03.24 | xorAxAx | that controls: |
| 03:03.25 | xorAxAx | # availability, profile, cellular, secure, lock, wifi |
| 03:03.33 | xorAxAx | anything else that should be controlled? |
| 03:03.43 | xorAxAx | s/dwid/dwim/ |
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| 03:08.42 | jebba | dwim? |
| 03:08.49 | xorAxAx | do what i mean |
| 03:09.17 | xorAxAx | it controls the device like an automatic profile daemon |
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| 03:12.26 | jebba | ah cool |
| 03:12.41 | xorAxAx | # gps, time, weekday, load, location, orientation |
| 03:12.41 | xorAxAx | # moving, charging, playing, display, locked |
| 03:12.44 | xorAxAx | are the inputs |
| 03:12.59 | xorAxAx | i am using a rule engine |
| 03:13.12 | matthew- | damn |
| 03:13.18 | matthew- | my bat died after 3hours today |
| 03:13.20 | matthew- | new record :D |
| 03:13.26 | xorAxAx | what did you do? |
| 03:13.37 | matthew- | just browse internet |
| 03:13.40 | matthew- | _and shit_ |
| 03:16.37 | revnil | that is when i get the most use out of my n900, on the crapper. i lose track of time playing angry birds. |
| 03:18.21 | matthew- | revnil: i take my laptop to the loo |
| 03:18.30 | KenYoung | Remind me not to buy revnil's used N900. |
| 03:19.02 | KenYoung | Especially if there's water damage. |
| 03:19.33 | matthew- | :-D |
| 03:20.09 | revnil | :) i take my laptop too, but only at home. co-workers look at you funny when you lug a dell into the restroom |
| 03:20.29 | microlith | :/ ovi store needs to work again so I can get the extra levels for angry birds |
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| 03:20.31 | matthew- | revnil: i've got toilet in my office |
| 03:20.37 | matthew- | dont share it with any1 :D |
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| 03:20.55 | revnil | lucky...work from home? |
| 03:21.04 | matthew- | nope |
| 03:21.22 | matthew- | one company i work for i own so ive got en suit office |
| 03:21.48 | matthew- | other company i work for its an investment bank and im a director, hence ive got en suite |
| 03:21.52 | matthew- | ;) |
| 03:21.54 | revnil | ah nice. |
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| 03:23.10 | goodwill | contemplates ovi maps vs sygic maps |
| 03:23.15 | goodwill | any thought anyone |
| 03:24.08 | matthew- | are sygic maps out yet? |
| 03:24.29 | vip- | does the n900 come with any memory card already ? |
| 03:24.38 | matthew- | vip-: nope |
| 03:24.43 | vip- | :l |
| 03:24.44 | matthew- | goodwill: they're not. |
| 03:24.57 | goodwill | matthew-: I know ... but they are coming soon |
| 03:25.43 | matthew- | ;] |
| 03:26.09 | DocScrutinizer | there's a dbus msg with full phonenumber on inbound call |
| 03:26.36 | SpeedEvil | vip-: but it has 32G inside |
| 03:28.23 | DocScrutinizer | should be a matter of a 10 limer python proggy to look up the countrycode of the number in a table and fire up a notifier |
| 03:28.25 | revnil | matthew-: you looking for an assistant or anything? i'm willing to travel! |
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| 03:28.49 | matthew- | revnil: Are you hot? red head? 3 languages a minimum? willing to sleep with your boss? |
| 03:28.51 | DocScrutinizer | even mere shellscript |
| 03:29.25 | revnil | yes, yes, hoe gaat het met jou?, na klar! |
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| 03:29.50 | matthew- | :) |
| 03:30.04 | matthew- | let me see if i can find my current PA on some facebook/myspace |
| 03:31.59 | matthew- | heh ofc she is |
| 03:32.13 | matthew- | revnil: http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/32/l_5ad9e04151e32bd978477896f831181d.jpg |
| 03:32.19 | matthew- | + shes EASY like sunday morning |
| 03:32.36 | matthew- | http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/10/l_58bb61926b31b75b9652aaf91a9a4114.jpg |
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| 03:33.32 | revnil | oh you didn't say female....jeez |
| 03:33.42 | revnil | :) |
| 03:33.46 | matthew- | heheh |
| 03:34.08 | revnil | good lord. i want one of those.... |
| 03:34.21 | SyncA | hi, I'd like to check for a bug report and if not present maybe try to file one on the volume inconsitencies in mediabox. |
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| 03:35.09 | matthew- | revnil: yeah, |
| 03:35.17 | SyncA | found wiki.maemo.org/bugs:Tasks |
| 03:35.19 | matthew- | she gets over £100k a year thou |
| 03:37.30 | doc|home | she's not hot, just kinda skanky looking |
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| 03:37.36 | revnil | she can't be over, what, 27? |
| 03:38.00 | SyncA | but cannot find a bug on mediabox and volume on bugs.maemo.org/query.cgi?format=specific |
| 03:39.44 | SyncA | is there an other place I should check if this is a known bug? |
| 03:43.06 | revnil | bugs.maemo.org? |
| 03:43.22 | revnil | seems like that's the place. |
| 03:48.51 | SyncA | hmm bad connection... |
| 03:50.00 | SyncA | so is it a problem with mediabox that the program sound control is more quiet than the system sound? |
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| 03:51.20 | SyncA | or is it a system problem? how do I adress resolving this whole problem... that's the wiki I'm looking for... |
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| 04:22.57 | phreck | yah |
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| 04:31.41 | solrize | http://www.wayneschulz.com/2010/01/zagg-sparq-promises-4-iphone-recharges-can-it-deliver/ brutal review, maybe i will try to build my own portable pack from aa cells |
| 04:33.04 | janszoon | Photos off th n900: How do you get yours off? I used to use PCSuite for older nokia, worked quite well, ordered photos by day taken etc. n900 does not work for photos with PCSuite and as far as I know knot for OVi suite either.......any ideas???? |
| 04:33.27 | janszoon | Yes I know mass sotrage, but I dont want to name all the folders etc...to transfer |
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| 04:39.00 | microlith | janszoon: mass storage is pretty much it... at least for me |
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| 04:41.45 | janszoon | microlith - thanks.....might have to try picasa or something |
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| 04:54.35 | derf | Or, when I have wifi, like right now, it will only let a single device connect at a time. |
| 04:57.02 | Jef91 | Its a shame fat32 doesn't support symlinks |
| 04:57.06 | Jef91 | that would be the quick fix |
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| 05:31.11 | goodwill | anyone managed to download ovi maps onto the device |
| 05:31.28 | goodwill | I tried following:http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?s=99035a40ee972fcd9db84654cfc17e67&t=38872 |
| 05:31.32 | goodwill | to no luck |
| 05:31.44 | pronto | that maps app that is included? |
| 05:31.54 | goodwill | yeah |
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| 05:32.03 | goodwill | appearantly its possible to do an offline download |
| 05:32.06 | pronto | heh odd timing, i so just ran it |
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| 05:32.17 | goodwill | pronto: did it work? |
| 05:32.28 | pronto | yeah o.O why wouldnt it? |
| 05:32.30 | goodwill | cause it does not work for me |
| 05:32.33 | goodwill | how did you do it? |
| 05:32.42 | pronto | i clicked it |
| 05:32.46 | pronto | and it came up O_o |
| 05:32.52 | goodwill | clicked what? |
| 05:33.00 | pronto | the maps icon |
| 05:33.01 | goodwill | I am trying to use the PC Suite |
| 05:33.22 | pronto | never used that |
| 05:33.37 | goodwill | how did you do it? |
| 05:34.00 | pronto | by cilcking the program that came with the phone , and it just worked |
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| 05:34.18 | goodwill | that does not help |
| 05:34.26 | goodwill | I am not sure what you are talking about |
| 05:34.49 | pronto | i know i'm looing at a map, that has a red dot where i am |
| 05:35.02 | goodwill | thats no offline maps |
| 05:35.12 | goodwill | I am talking about loading all the maps for use offline |
| 05:35.28 | pronto | oh |
| 05:35.34 | pronto | never tried that |
| 05:41.08 | Proteous | that's no moon |
| 05:41.31 | pronto | you can only do thiw with that method? |
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| 06:05.02 | RST38h | Google is investigating whether one or more of its employees in China helped launch the cyber attack against it last month |
| 06:05.16 | RST38h | ah! the witch hunt! |
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| 06:16.46 | Proteous | why they start burning them at the stake let me know |
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| 06:17.10 | Proteous | or compairing their weight to a ducks... |
| 06:18.11 | Guest63262 | I've uploaded a couple packages; they compiled and said they were fine. However, they are not being imported or showing up in the list. It has been several hours. Who do I need to ping to get this fixed? In fact the lists of packages on the sidebar are out of date. |
| 06:22.55 | GeneralAntilles | groans at bug #8253 |
| 06:22.56 | povbot` | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8253 Phone heats up when 3G connection established. |
| 06:24.10 | Proteous | lol |
| 06:24.19 | Proteous | that's not a bug, I use it to keep my hands warm |
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| 06:26.27 | ruskie | :) |
| 06:26.43 | ruskie | actually it has it established here and it's not heating up |
| 06:26.51 | ruskie | it does though if I run openvpn |
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| 06:32.46 | RST38h | yawns |
| 06:33.02 | RST38h | General: Does it really heat up? =) |
| 06:33.54 | GeneralAntilles | RST38h, not a clue, never used 3G on the goddamn thing. |
| 06:33.57 | thresh | cause it would help surviving the walk for me |
| 06:34.10 | pronto | heh, i cant scroll though a moive (86min long) with the default media player, but with kmplayer i can |
| 06:34.16 | RST38h | General: We finally got 3G here (spot coverage) but I have never seen it heat up |
| 06:34.21 | GeneralAntilles | 's 5-a-Day is done. |
| 06:35.00 | Exconvictriddick | hi |
| 06:35.06 | RST38h | Now, running Transmission makes it heat up really fast, really well |
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| 06:36.20 | Proteous | it heats up when you use a lot of CPU |
| 06:36.51 | Proteous | so I guess it probably is more warm when browsing with 3g then with 2g |
| 06:37.10 | Proteous | since the browser spends more time rendering and less time waiting for the data |
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| 06:37.24 | Proteous | or if you are streaming video over 3g which you can't do over 2g really |
| 06:37.27 | Exconvictriddick | can anyone recommend a good converter mp4/h264 for 900? |
| 06:37.33 | Proteous | handbrake |
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| 06:38.06 | Proteous | http://handbrake.fr/ |
| 06:38.09 | Exconvictriddick | i tried handbrake. it didnt work.i even followed the guide in maemo.org. |
| 06:38.16 | Proteous | works for me |
| 06:38.27 | GeneralAntilles | Proteous, 3G consumes more power. |
| 06:38.30 | GeneralAntilles | Thus, more heat. |
| 06:38.32 | Proteous | GeneralAntilles: yes |
| 06:38.38 | Exconvictriddick | what plist did you use? did you create your own? |
| 06:39.01 | GeneralAntilles | Proteous, my 5800, for instance, would heat up nearly to scalding just with extended tethering. |
| 06:39.13 | Exconvictriddick | present i meanrt |
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| 06:39.42 | Proteous | GeneralAntilles: yeah, just sitting there not transfering any data it would be fine, but if you are actualy using the 3g connection the phone gets warm, it's unavoidable until we get quantum chips I guess |
| 06:39.56 | Proteous | Exconvictriddick ment preset |
| 06:39.56 | RST38h | Weird |
| 06:40.21 | alongst | Hi All. I just had my calendar and notes/tasks erased. Any ideas where to look for the lost data? I can use a terminal / ssh into the device. |
| 06:40.25 | Wolfie | Exconvictriddick: coding on apple lately, have we? :) |
| 06:40.27 | alongst | I'm using an n900 |
| 06:40.35 | ruskie | gah... just stupid... |
| 06:40.38 | RST38h | General: it is true that 3G uses more power, but to heat up the phone to scalding temperatures? |
| 06:40.52 | ruskie | someone figured out why camera didn't work on ext3 |
| 06:41.10 | RST38h | Weird...May depend on the amount of data transferred though... |
| 06:41.22 | ruskie | stupid permissions on DCIM dir |
| 06:41.43 | Exconvictriddick | no. not real expert in video coding. i just want to play whole dexter hd in my 900. /sigh |
| 06:42.06 | Proteous | bug #ID10T my video card heats up when I play 3d games on my comptuer |
| 06:42.22 | ruskie | :) |
| 06:42.24 | Proteous | causes annoying fan noise |
| 06:42.37 | Proteous | maybe they will fix it in the next driver update |
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| 06:44.15 | chetan | is talk.maemo.org down again? |
| 06:44.24 | TTilus | my desktop effects have been really jerky since last update |
| 06:44.25 | Proteous | it was up? |
| 06:44.30 | TTilus | where to start debugging? |
| 06:44.37 | TTilus | top shows noting suspicious |
| 06:44.43 | chetan | Proteous: lol |
| 06:44.51 | TTilus | (somebody already suggested its reindexing and thus slow) |
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| 06:48.33 | ruskie | chetan, hmm looks like it to me |
| 06:50.12 | chetan | ruskie: hmm.. i can't connect to it. i can ping the server, but can't telnet to port 80 |
| 06:52.40 | ruskie | hmm anyone managed to use a .mkv for hildon-welcome vid? |
| 06:55.56 | ifreq | sigh |
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| 06:58.28 | ShadowJK_ | RST38h, also wakeups :-) |
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| 06:58.54 | ShadowJK_ | on edge amount of power used is more closely correlated with amount of data transfered |
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| 07:05.02 | mece | good morning maemites |
| 07:05.12 | Proteous | Exconvictriddick: I can give you the preset that I used |
| 07:05.50 | lcukn900 | mornin |
| 07:05.57 | Proteous | Exconvictriddick: it is a custom one I made to encode video for my n97, works fine for the n900 too although I could probably up the resolution and bitrate, still looks great though |
| 07:05.59 | mece | "It's not just you! http://talk.maemo.org looks down from here." |
| 07:06.16 | Proteous | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ |
| 07:06.27 | mece | exactly |
| 07:06.37 | Proteous | :) |
| 07:07.07 | mece | so what's up with tmo? server move there too? |
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| 07:07.33 | tekojo | mece, looks like it crashed |
| 07:07.42 | mece | tekojo, fun times :) |
| 07:07.52 | goodwill | nice |
| 07:07.56 | lcukn900 | tekojo, random reboot lol |
| 07:07.56 | tekojo | Reggie just appeared online, so I guess it should be handled soon |
| 07:08.07 | goodwill | maemo.org has been getting the smackdown since n900 came out |
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| 07:09.28 | Nathanael_Anders | Tekojo, do you have access to the server that promotes the stuff from the builderbots to extras-devel. It appears to be down also. |
| 07:09.38 | tekojo | goodwill yes, the loads have been pretty amazing |
| 07:09.40 | ruskie | /home/user/.config/user-dirs.dirs <-- hmm anyone know what this file should contain? |
| 07:09.49 | lcukn900 | heads through the snow to the nrc |
| 07:10.10 | tekojo | Nathanael no, that's Ed and Niels |
| 07:10.15 | goodwill | ruskie: user dirs for the freedesktop .deskto directories? |
| 07:10.23 | Nathanael_Anders | k, thx. |
| 07:10.30 | ruskie | goodwill, hmm |
| 07:10.34 | tekojo | ping X-Fade and he'll notice it |
| 07:11.26 | tekojo | Nathanael what's your package name? |
| 07:11.37 | Nathanael_Anders | Samba, and Truecrypt. |
| 07:11.46 | tekojo | Ooh, big ones |
| 07:12.02 | Nathanael_Anders | But the sidebar shows packages from like much earlier; so I suspect the whole process failed. |
| 07:12.15 | frals | Nathanael_Anders: i noticed it showed up in -devel when browsing on device way before it showed up on the webpage (maemo.org/packages) |
| 07:12.29 | frals | thats what happend to my package anyway |
| 07:12.29 | Nathanael_Anders | Yeah, I got bored with the small ones like Cifs. Had to try some big ones. ;-D |
| 07:12.50 | tekojo | Yes, last one seems to be yesterday at 17:15 UTC |
| 07:19.57 | alongst | For whomever was interested, I found a backup in ~user/.calendar, it is sqlite3, just copying it should work. I was trying syncevolution, may be related, no idea how. Thanks for listening. |
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| 07:24.40 | tekojo | tmo back on-line |
| 07:24.57 | Proteous | don't everyone load it up at once or it will go down again |
| 07:25.01 | Proteous | too late... |
| 07:25.03 | tekojo | it was running an update (what a weird time to do that) |
| 07:26.23 | ShadowJK_ | monday morning would be better ;) |
| 07:26.29 | mece | tekojo, it's never a good time since it's not centered on a particular continent. |
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| 07:27.05 | tekojo | The best time we know is the EET early morning hours |
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| 07:31.22 | goodwill | fantastic reviews ... "maemo is the first device LOSELY based on linux" |
| 07:31.29 | goodwill | marooons |
| 07:31.56 | goodwill | LOOSELY |
| 07:32.58 | ruskie | rofl |
| 07:33.09 | ruskie | I think that would be Android, PalmPre, etc... |
| 07:33.25 | goodwill | pretty much |
| 07:33.30 | ruskie | those are losley based |
| 07:33.34 | ruskie | maemo is a full distro |
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| 07:33.44 | ruskie | gah why does the camera need to be so stupid |
| 07:34.16 | goodwill | also given linux is a kernel even android and palmpre is fully linux |
| 07:34.41 | thresh | orly |
| 07:34.52 | goodwill | I still would like for the camera key not to bring the camera |
| 07:35.12 | thomaz | i forgot in which i file a set the location for the default folders in MyDocs... anybody? |
| 07:35.14 | goodwill | contemplates recompiling camera app |
| 07:35.20 | ruskie | I would like the camera to NOT be volume based but just point it where you want to store |
| 07:35.44 | goodwill | ruskie: I think you can ... I set it for internal storage only |
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| 07:35.55 | ruskie | goodwill, erm... no you can't |
| 07:36.00 | goodwill | yeah you can |
| 07:36.01 | ruskie | goodwill, it needs a volume |
| 07:36.04 | ruskie | i.e partition |
| 07:36.06 | ruskie | not a directory |
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| 07:36.19 | goodwill | you mean you want to set a folder? |
| 07:36.22 | ruskie | yes |
| 07:36.26 | goodwill | I see |
| 07:36.49 | thomaz | nevermind, found it |
| 07:36.52 | goodwill | ovi maps really make me sad |
| 07:37.05 | goodwill | anyone here use ovi maps 3.0 are they really good? |
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| 07:39.04 | timeless_mbp | goodwill: is that the web app or the thing for other platforms? |
| 07:39.26 | goodwill | timeless_mbp: web app? |
| 07:39.55 | timeless_mbp | is that your final answer? |
| 07:40.29 | goodwill | I am not really sure what you are refering to? |
| 07:41.54 | ruskie | dear nokia... please make the camera app less anal about where it can store images |
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| 07:42.20 | goodwill | I think DCIM folder is the camera standard? |
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| 07:43.18 | ruskie | goodwill, yeah but the app doesn't care about that at this stage... only: I have no volume I can store to |
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| 07:44.21 | ofotmrqde | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.22 | xfrmm | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.22 | zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.22 | lgesmaukeuwc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.22 | fvwnckrvszkc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.23 | ayyxzgzsiuwr | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.23 | bqpddbzybda | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.23 | psnefwbdrdpl | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.23 | lgaqhubddra | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.23 | ofotmrqde | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.24 | xfrmm | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.24 | zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.24 | lgesmaukeuwc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.24 | fvwnckrvszkc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.25 | ayyxzgzsiuwr | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.25 | bqpddbzybda | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.25 | psnefwbdrdpl | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.25 | lgaqhubddra | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.25 | ofotmrqde | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.26 | xfrmm | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.26 | zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.26 | lgesmaukeuwc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.26 | fvwnckrvszkc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.27 | ayyxzgzsiuwr | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.27 | bqpddbzybda | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.27 | psnefwbdrdpl | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.27 | lgaqhubddra | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.27 | ofotmrqde | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.28 | ruskie | /ignore -regexp -pattern "GNAA invites you.*" * <-- for those with irssi |
| 07:44.28 | xfrmm | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.28 | zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.28 | lgesmaukeuwc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.28 | fvwnckrvszkc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.29 | ayyxzgzsiuwr | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.29 | bqpddbzybda | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.29 | psnefwbdrdpl | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.29 | lgaqhubddra | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.29 | ofotmrqde | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.30 | xfrmm | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.30 | zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.30 | lgesmaukeuwc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.30 | fvwnckrvszkc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.31 | ayyxzgzsiuwr | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.31 | bqpddbzybda | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.31 | psnefwbdrdpl | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.31 | lgaqhubddra | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.31 | ofotmrqde | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
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| 07:44.32 | xfrmm | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.32 | zlpspfetugy | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.32 | lgesmaukeuwc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.32 | fvwnckrvszkc | GNAA invites you to cry at: irc.hardchats.com #gnaa |
| 07:44.41 | Corsac | thanks |
| 07:44.48 | ruskie | :) |
| 07:44.50 | pwnguin | why maemo? |
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| 07:52.28 | go1dfish | no |
| 07:52.33 | adeus | you can ignore ctcps from freenode only if you want |
| 07:52.42 | go1dfish | this is me: http://tunetrack.net/go1dfish |
| 07:53.30 | ghast | sup w/ those pubes on your chin holmes |
| 07:53.50 | go1dfish | they are now shaved, the hair is much shorter now to heh |
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| 07:55.34 | Stskeeps | blah, attack again? |
| 07:55.37 | go1dfish | I'm a lazy mofo, that's why I am a developer |
| 07:55.54 | Stskeeps | oh dear, GNAA is at it again? |
| 07:56.09 | ghast | they already killed lilo |
| 07:56.15 | ghast | why must they bother us again |
| 07:56.23 | go1dfish | Stskeeps: that was my reaction I hadn't seen anything from GNAA since the slashdot css makeover (i.e. when they went away from the horrible table layout) |
| 07:56.43 | Stskeeps | more importantly, why doesn't their IRCd have throttling |
| 07:57.19 | mece | ghast, perhaps it's easy.. |
| 07:57.28 | ghast | 02:55 < Stskeeps> oh dear, GNAA is at it again? |
| 07:57.33 | ghast | oops mispaste |
| 07:57.41 | go1dfish | freenode has a smaller percentage of windows users (and therefore owned boxes), and script kiddies that most other irc networks, so the admins are lulled into a false sense of security? |
| 07:58.16 | ghast | or maybe they are just incompetent |
| 07:58.33 | Stskeeps | go1dfish: it could also be that ircd coders are a dying breded |
| 07:58.34 | goodwill | irc is usually not a good playground for bots |
| 07:58.35 | Stskeeps | breed |
| 07:58.40 | Stskeeps | got out of it in time |
| 07:58.46 | goodwill | its usually techie infested |
| 07:59.07 | go1dfish | Stskeeps: heh I've never tried to write an ircd, clients on occasion, but never crazy enough to write an ircd |
| 07:59.16 | pwnguin | go1dfish: i figure it's like natural selection |
| 07:59.27 | Myrtti | Or maybe you should concentrate on helping them test the new ircd instead of complaining |
| 07:59.34 | pwnguin | go1dfish: you know how antibiotic strains of staph accumulate in hospitals? |
| 07:59.55 | pwnguin | go1dfish: well, freenode accumulates banhammer resistant botnets |
| 07:59.56 | go1dfish | pwnguin: yeah, they are whats left off after all the drugs/antivirals etc... kill the rest |
| 08:00.00 | go1dfish | and they breed |
| 08:00.02 | Stskeeps | Myrtti: freenode ircd's are another pandora's box of stuff :P |
| 08:00.23 | Stskeeps | sips his coffee |
| 08:00.28 | go1dfish | considering freenode's audience, I'd expect the attacks here to be more sophisticated/interesting, and less frequent |
| 08:00.31 | go1dfish | than say efnet |
| 08:00.42 | Myrtti | Wasnt saying theyre not |
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| 08:00.46 | ghast | hi |
| 08:01.08 | ghast | did you know that the attacks actually dont work on efnet |
| 08:01.14 | ghast | seems theyre a little more sophisticated |
| 08:01.28 | ghast | and all while handling so many users |
| 08:01.36 | Stskeeps | ghast: nah, they just have seen the type of attacks before and implemented defenses against them |
| 08:01.37 | ghast | what an odd sense of superiority freenode has |
| 08:01.38 | go1dfish | ghast: I was speaking more of the people who chat on freenet moreso than the admins |
| 08:02.11 | go1dfish | due to all the warez etc, efnet has a lot more easy targets |
| 08:02.43 | go1dfish | I would expect that on the whole the userbase (not the admins) are more comp. savvy than the userbase of efnet |
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| 08:03.05 | ghast | why do you expect that |
| 08:03.06 | Stskeeps | go1dfish: i don't think admins are as visible as they are on efnet. |
| 08:03.32 | go1dfish | ghast: because most of the channels, and traffic on freenode is related to development |
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| 08:04.10 | Pit | Hi - I think my N900 is brokent - I just got it |
| 08:04.15 | Stskeeps | Pit: what are the issues? |
| 08:04.23 | Pit | There is no WIFI |
| 08:04.45 | Pit | Laptop shows 5-10 wireless access points, N900 shows none |
| 08:05.06 | Pit | Even if I enter my home router's SSID etc. manually, it doesn't work |
| 08:05.24 | go1dfish | what firmware version are you running? |
| 08:05.30 | go1dfish | Settings -> About |
| 08:05.32 | Pit | 11-42, I think |
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| 08:06.10 | go1dfish | I'd try flashing to 51 or whatever the latest is and see if that helps, but I haven't heard of any issues like that before |
| 08:06.43 | Pit | I tried a bit fiddling with the USB flahers, but didnt get it to work |
| 08:07.38 | Pit | but i was wondering, if this is a hardware defect, shouldn't dmesg show something suspicious? |
| 08:08.38 | adeus | well you should see messages from wl1251 |
| 08:08.56 | adeus | at least I do when it works |
| 08:09.27 | Pit | I think I saw them, too.... but let me check |
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| 08:10.36 | Pit | Yeah... I have some w11251 messages. The last one is "firmware booted" |
| 08:10.54 | adeus | Then I'd say it works |
| 08:12.00 | Pit | Hmmm.... any idea what I can do to find out what's going on? |
| 08:12.13 | Pit | It's a sad device without wifi |
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| 08:13.19 | goodwill | *sighs* |
| 08:14.07 | goodwill | is it wrong to try to convince people that n900 supports nextel and verizon by using Custom Operator Name Widget |
| 08:15.09 | Proteous | lol |
| 08:15.19 | Proteous | depends, do you like these people? |
| 08:15.20 | Pit | is there a way to use the terminal to see wireless accesspoints? |
| 08:15.44 | Pit | E.g., like "iwlist scan" does under my linux box? |
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| 08:17.08 | L0cutus | re |
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| 08:18.04 | Pit | anyone has an idea? I'm desperate! |
| 08:18.14 | ifreq | go see a doctor |
| 08:18.37 | Pit | I did, but he said "go, chat on #maemo" |
| 08:18.47 | Cy8aer | Pit: (hard way, and I do not know, if it is compiled allready) kismet? |
| 08:18.58 | goodwill | Pit I think you have to install it |
| 08:19.07 | Pit | install kismet, you mean? |
| 08:19.17 | Stskeeps | Pit: did you try with flasher under ubuntu 32-bit or the likes? |
| 08:19.25 | ifreq | wifi should work quite straight from the box |
| 08:19.47 | goodwill | Pit: I think its: apt-get install wireless-tools |
| 08:19.54 | Pit | I used opensuse |
| 08:20.07 | Pit | goodwill: don't I need network for apt-get? |
| 08:20.19 | goodwill | yes ... you can use a usb set up |
| 08:20.27 | ifreq | Pit: you didnt mention your 3G does not work |
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| 08:20.42 | Pit | ifreq: no, WIFI (WLAN) doesn't work |
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| 08:20.57 | Pit | goodwill: where can i find instructions to set up usb networking? |
| 08:21.01 | goodwill | Pit: http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking |
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| 08:21.27 | ifreq | is the wireless tool package so huge you cannot download it via 3G? |
| 08:21.28 | Pit | thanks - I'll try this! |
| 08:21.51 | Pit | I dont have a data contract |
| 08:22.31 | goodwill | Pit: you'll need rootsh first |
| 08:22.56 | goodwill | Pit: run ifconfig to see if you have a wlan interface? |
| 08:23.03 | Pit | ok |
| 08:23.05 | mece | does romaniausa on tmo seem rather young, or is it just me that think so? |
| 08:23.29 | Pit | what is the path for ifconfig? |
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| 08:23.51 | goodwill | /sbin/ifconfig |
| 08:23.55 | Pit | thx |
| 08:24.10 | goodwill | Pit: put my nick in your questions ... cause otherwise it does not alert me |
| 08:24.35 | Pit | goodwill: o.k. - i have wlan0 and wmaster0 and some others |
| 08:24.44 | ifreq | or you can continue on private goodwill |
| 08:24.52 | goodwill | ifreq: why? |
| 08:25.11 | goodwill | ifreq: maybe if I can not help others can read the discussion and step in |
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| 08:26.30 | goodwill | Pit: so wlan0 being there is already good |
| 08:26.49 | RST38h | reMoos |
| 08:27.08 | hrw | morning |
| 08:27.20 | mece | hrw, mornin' |
| 08:27.58 | koala_man | I'm trying to set up mail for exchange with google calendar. after I enter the account details, it sits there for a bit and finally gives some vague message about communication errors with exchange server, but the calendar is synchronized |
| 08:28.04 | RST38h | moorning hrw |
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| 08:28.27 | koala_man | but since it thinks it fails, I can't save the connection or anything |
| 08:28.47 | koala_man | what's up with that? |
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| 08:29.12 | RST38h | is constantly getting invited to join Facebook by people he does not know |
| 08:29.24 | RST38h | Is it some kind of spam Facebook itself is sending out? |
| 08:29.29 | ifreq | nope |
| 08:29.59 | Stskeeps | RST38h: people using their feature to spam people on your email list |
| 08:30.09 | hrw | RST38h: to facebook or to VK? |
| 08:30.16 | Stskeeps | on their address list |
| 08:30.19 | RST38h | Facebook |
| 08:30.28 | RST38h | Sts: Oh =( |
| 08:30.49 | RST38h | OMG bug #4371 is finally fixed!!! |
| 08:30.50 | povbot` | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4371 Scrollbar handle in subscriptions list does not look like a handle. |
| 08:31.00 | aquatix | moaning |
| 08:31.19 | goodwill | Pit: how is it going? |
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| 08:31.46 | Pit | goodwill: I'm not sure what to do now |
| 08:32.06 | RST38h | The replacement still vaguely looks like a Mac user turd, but it is definitely better than the previous piece |
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| 08:32.28 | goodwill | Pit: set up usb networking |
| 08:32.46 | goodwill | Pit: then use Application Manager to install rootish |
| 08:33.07 | Pit | goodwill: how can I enable RD mode? |
| 08:33.07 | goodwill | Pit: then run terminal and: "rootsh apt-get install wireless-tools" |
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| 08:33.22 | goodwill | Pit: which maemo version are you running |
| 08:33.56 | Pit | goodwill: Maemo 5 (?) |
| 08:34.40 | goodwill | Pit: Settings > About |
| 08:34.49 | goodwill | Pit: there should be a version |
| 08:34.57 | goodwill | Pit: 42 ? or 51? |
| 08:35.11 | Pit | goodwill: 1.2009.42-11.002 |
| 08:35.26 | goodwill | Pit: in that case you can enable Red Pill |
| 08:35.51 | goodwill | Pit: but you still need a netwok connection first |
| 08:35.57 | Pit | goodwill: thanks - but how? |
| 08:36.01 | goodwill | Pit: so try the USB tutorial I sent |
| 08:36.08 | goodwill | Pit: http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking |
| 08:36.08 | Pit | goodwill: When I follow usb network instructions, I enter "sudo gainroot", it says "Enable RD mode if you want to break your device" |
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| 08:36.15 | goodwill | hmm |
| 08:36.52 | goodwill | Pit: http://wiki.maemo.org/Red_Pill_mode |
| 08:36.52 | ml-N900 | did you install the rootsh package? |
| 08:37.03 | goodwill | ml-N900: he does not have networking |
| 08:37.13 | ml-N900 | no wifi even? |
| 08:37.13 | goodwill | no wireless |
| 08:37.17 | ml-N900 | ouch |
| 08:37.22 | Stskeeps | did you verify flashing doesn't work? .. |
| 08:37.22 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 08:37.33 | tekojo | goodwill red pill is out as of 1.0.1 |
| 08:37.33 | Pit | ml-900: this is the problem - wifi does not work |
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| 08:38.30 | goodwill | tekojo: he still ahs 1.0 |
| 08:38.33 | goodwill | has |
| 08:38.37 | tekojo | ok |
| 08:39.54 | ml-N900 | Pit: I'd suggest Stskeeps reflash suggestion |
| 08:39.56 | Pit | goodwill: the N900 is brand new. I could try to install new firmware using NSU from nokia europe. But not sure - I'm in the US and I don't want to break warranty, especially since it looks something might be broken...? |
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| 08:40.38 | Stskeeps | Pit: i would just use flasher-3.5 really |
| 08:40.43 | ml-N900 | Pit: so you can't see any access points at all? |
| 08:40.46 | goodwill | Pit: you can reflash using using the flasher 3.5 |
| 08:41.01 | Pit | ml-N900: no, no access points |
| 08:41.15 | goodwill | Pit: a really stupid question ... is your wlan available? |
| 08:41.19 | goodwill | the route |
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| 08:41.35 | goodwill | router |
| 08:41.38 | goodwill | got to go |
| 08:41.51 | Pit | goodwill: yeah, I can try flasher again... but it didn't work.. some usb error message |
| 08:41.54 | goodwill | Pit: good luck ... people here are helpful |
| 08:42.00 | Pit | goodwill: thanks a log! |
| 08:42.06 | Pit | goodwill: a lot |
| 08:42.10 | goodwill | sorry could not help more :) |
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| 08:42.43 | Pit | ml-N900: yes, i have my own wifi router on, several other devices connect fine. also, lots of access points in the neighbourhood |
| 08:42.54 | ml-N900 | hmm |
| 08:43.03 | adeus | the antenna might be broken |
| 08:43.14 | ml-N900 | yeah, reflash once then RMA |
| 08:43.26 | Pit | adeus: yeah, that's a good point |
| 08:43.34 | cosmo | off-topic question, but i'm getting lines like this in my irssi's server window: 09:47 [freenode] -!- crolqsdumxbe: No such nick/channel |
| 08:43.47 | Pit | ml-N900: o.k., I'll try... |
| 08:43.52 | Stskeeps | cosmo: attacks on freenode, disable ctcp responses |
| 08:43.52 | cosmo | is this normal and any ideas what might be causing it? |
| 08:44.03 | Pit | ml-N900: too bad I was so much looking forward to getting this |
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| 08:44.34 | ml-N900 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:44.35 | cosmo | Stskeeps: ok, thanks |
| 08:44.53 | Stskeeps | Pit: grab a ubuntu livecd, 32-bit and try there |
| 08:44.57 | Stskeeps | usb error is usually on the host. |
| 08:45.26 | Pit | Stskeeps: o.k., I can do this. But I have a Windoze laptop, couldn't I use the NSU? |
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| 08:46.04 | Stskeeps | Pit: we've used flasher in community for ages and sometimes it is less buggy than NSU :P |
| 08:46.12 | Stskeeps | is it a 64-bit or 32-bit laptop? |
| 08:46.27 | Pit | Stskeeps: o.k., then I should use flasher |
| 08:46.40 | Stskeeps | yeah, and grab a fiasco image from tablets-dev.nokia.com |
| 08:46.43 | Pit | Stskeeps: laptop is 64-bit, but Windoze is 32-bit. Linux is 64-bit |
| 08:46.52 | Stskeeps | right, 32-bit windows should do the trick |
| 08:47.09 | Pit | Stskeeps: o.k. - thanks for your help |
| 08:47.18 | Stskeeps | Pit: let me know if there's any problems |
| 08:47.55 | Pit | Stskeeps: O.k. will do |
| 08:48.28 | go1dfish | Pit: does bluetooth work? |
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| 08:48.48 | go1dfish | Pit: on the n900 wifi and bt share an antenna |
| 08:48.54 | Pit | go1dfish: Didnt try |
| 08:49.14 | Pit | go1dfish: Have never really used bluetooth for anything |
| 08:49.17 | go1dfish | cool, well if it doesn't work after the flash, try out bt and see what happens |
| 08:49.26 | Pit | go1dfish: good idea! |
| 08:49.30 | go1dfish | yeah I don't use it much either |
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| 08:50.05 | go1dfish | antenna issue is the first thing that comes to mind that could be hardware problem and have dmesg still show up right |
| 08:50.39 | rohit22 | hi |
| 08:50.51 | Proteous | (after 10 hours of troubleshooting we find out Pit's n900 was in offline mode) |
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| 08:50.53 | Pit | go1dfish: makes sense, although its the least desirable one - sending it back and waiting forever until i get a replacement - sucks |
| 08:51.12 | rohit22 | hello all |
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| 08:51.22 | Proteous | hi |
| 08:51.25 | Pit | Proteous: what's offline mode? ;-) |
| 08:51.28 | Proteous | :P |
| 08:52.02 | rohit22 | i m new in maemo... i need u ppl help ..i want to know how to get start with mameo.. |
| 08:52.25 | Proteous | get started doing what? |
| 08:52.26 | ifreq | rohit22: you can start going thru maemo.org talk.maemo.org |
| 08:52.29 | juhjokel | rohit22: Regarding software development? |
| 08:52.39 | rohit22 | yes |
| 08:53.16 | juhjokel | rohit22: http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/c05693a1-265c-4c7f-a389-fc227db4c465/Maemo_5_SDK.html |
| 08:53.18 | juhjokel | sdk installer |
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| 08:53.50 | juhjokel | rohit22: Of course could ask first, if you are using linux :) |
| 08:55.13 | sejo | I cannot seem to install the maemo update |
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| 08:55.30 | ifreq | sejo: please explain more. |
| 08:55.32 | sejo | always states I have not enough memory on target |
| 08:55.36 | sejo | how can I fix that? |
| 08:55.40 | ifreq | sejo: then clean up some installed apps |
| 08:55.50 | sejo | I uninstalled a lot of apps already |
| 08:55.52 | ifreq | your root fs is full |
| 08:55.59 | sejo | got 18 M free |
| 08:55.59 | ifreq | uninstall more |
| 08:56.01 | mece | sejo, http://wiki.maemo.org/Free_up_rootfs_space |
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| 08:57.15 | Hukka | sejo: Also run apt-get clean |
| 08:57.29 | Hukka | sejo: At least in my case HAM hadn't done that automatically, I got 17 megs extra space |
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| 08:58.00 | Hukka | sejo: And reboot the tablet, as the file system is compressing and is smallest just after booting |
| 08:59.01 | Exconvictriddick | how do you press ctrl F7 on n900? |
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| 09:02.32 | Gadgetoid_mbp | Kapow! |
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| 09:07.24 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 09:08.15 | Jaffa | X-Fade: ping |
| 09:08.27 | X-Fade | Jaffa: Here. |
| 09:08.32 | Gadgetoid | morning |
| 09:08.56 | Jaffa | X-Fade: Is /packages/ known to be broken? (Not updated since 2010-01-15 08:05, AFAICT) |
| 09:09.26 | Nathanael_Anders | X-fade, the process to move files from the builders to the extra-devel seems to be down. |
| 09:09.29 | X-Fade | Jaffa: The build part needs a bit of work for the new situation still. |
| 09:10.00 | X-Fade | Jaffa: And the import part is down because we're working on the maintenance server. |
| 09:10.08 | X-Fade | Jaffa: But that is only for a few hours. |
| 09:10.15 | Jaffa | X-Fade: Righto. ETA? (I'll send a mail to maemo-developers) |
| 09:10.38 | X-Fade | Jaffa: Depends on the agenda today. There is a lot of stuff going on ;) |
| 09:10.40 | woglinde | hi x-fade |
| 09:11.20 | X-Fade | Anybody seen this before? |
| 09:11.21 | X-Fade | 23:56:48 up 14665 days, 18:06, 1 user, load average: 0.99, 0.97, 0.91 |
| 09:11.33 | Stskeeps | X-Fade: maemo.org is older than any of us? |
| 09:11.45 | X-Fade | Is this clock counting backwards or what? :) |
| 09:12.00 | woglinde | *g* |
| 09:12.13 | Stskeeps | 40 years uptime, not bad |
| 09:12.14 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 09:12.15 | ruskie | :) |
| 09:12.17 | woglinde | x-fade is this error because moving from builders dont works? |
| 09:12.29 | X-Fade | woglinde: No, will need to look into that. |
| 09:12.51 | sejo | mece: thanks! |
| 09:13.00 | sejo | Hukka: thanks |
| 09:13.26 | Hukka | sejo: Which one helped you? |
| 09:14.06 | sejo | the link and yours is good info :p |
| 09:14.18 | sejo | well the dist-upgrade is renning |
| 09:14.22 | sejo | bight brick my phone :p |
| 09:14.29 | sejo | s/bight/might/ |
| 09:16.14 | arachnist | X-Fade: i had an opensolaris virtual machine reporting that kind of uptime... after several reboots |
| 09:16.35 | X-Fade | arachnist: this is a kvm. |
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| 09:16.46 | arachnist | mine was vmware-server |
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| 09:18.28 | sejo | now to get the dpkg tool onto my fedora so I can start playing :p |
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| 09:22.13 | sejo | hmm appears that the new nokia version made it quicker? |
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| 09:22.22 | sejo | maemo version I mear |
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| 09:24.56 | Corsac | for which value of ânewâ? |
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| 09:37.47 | X-Fade | Nathanael_Anders: Issue should be resolved now. |
| 09:40.09 | woglinde | thanks x-fade |
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| 09:41.21 | pupnik | good morning woglinde |
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| 09:44.13 | woglinde | jo pupnik |
| 09:45.20 | vanksi | has anyone managed to get vpnc-gui's autoconnect to work? |
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| 09:49.54 | vanksi | and also, how could i make a shortcut to bash shell |
| 09:50.24 | arachnist | xterm -e bash |
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| 10:03.15 | Stskeeps | how on earth can i have two jehovas witnesses visits in two weeks |
| 10:03.42 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: You showed interest the first time? |
| 10:03.51 | Stskeeps | X-Fade: "not interested" "slam door" |
| 10:04.14 | adeus | you should've asked what's the point since your heaven is full |
| 10:04.14 | Ave | a challenge |
| 10:04.35 | ruskie | lol |
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| 10:04.45 | ruskie | I tend to listen to all these people that come to the door |
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| 10:04.51 | ruskie | let them talk and talk and talk |
| 10:04.56 | ruskie | then say not interested |
| 10:04.59 | ruskie | and slam the door |
| 10:05.02 | Stskeeps | "let me introduce you to cheap polish vodka and strippoker" |
| 10:05.08 | ruskie | I do the same for telemarketers |
| 10:05.15 | ruskie | works like a treat |
| 10:05.16 | adeus | or about the whacky predictions they make |
| 10:05.26 | adeus | and why they're always false |
| 10:05.50 | ruskie | they get to have their pitch and after that they never call again as they see I'm a waste of time :) |
| 10:06.40 | ruskie | and I always either sound or look really interested |
| 10:06.55 | fatal^ | Stskeeps: this worked for me (didn't do it on purpose): show basic interest first time based on the assumption that you get rid of them faster by letting them say whatever they came for, promise to read up on the litterature they hand out until next time, next time open up using "I give blood donations" t-shirt..... Resulted in "You're not very interested, are you?" and never having any visits again. :) |
| 10:07.19 | Pit | go1dfish: still there? |
| 10:07.32 | Pit | go1dfish: bluetooth works |
| 10:07.43 | Pit | go1dfish: updated, but doesnt help |
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| 10:11.00 | TTilus | my desktop effects (app change, desktop slide, background fade on menu, scroll) have been jerky and jumpy since last system upgrade, any idea why? how to debug? top shows >95% idle and nothing suspicious and scrolling/effects still jump randomly, but at least once every single time |
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| 10:22.58 | felipec | X-Fade: hello |
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| 10:23.08 | X-Fade | felipec: Hi |
| 10:23.52 | felipec | X-Fade: any update regarding the missing dependencies issue? would updating the package again help? |
| 10:24.09 | thresh | wants python-xcbgen in repos |
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| 10:24.24 | woglinde | thresh whats the problem? |
| 10:24.32 | woglinde | take debain package optify it |
| 10:24.35 | woglinde | and upload it |
| 10:24.55 | felipec | woglinde: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/telepathy-msn-pecan/0.1.0~rc2-0maemo6 |
| 10:25.08 | felipec | the build system added those missing dependencies, not me |
| 10:25.17 | thresh | woglinde: the problem is that libxcb source package has that binary package but it's not published |
| 10:25.21 | thresh | i have no idea why |
| 10:25.26 | thresh | and i need that for vlc |
| 10:25.30 | Guest85647 | hi! has anybody the extra plugins installed for conversations. i can not create an account for icq. |
| 10:25.32 | X-Fade | felipec: We're probably going back to 1.0 SDK soon. |
| 10:25.49 | X-Fade | felipec: And rebuild everything submitted after 1.1 sdk release. |
| 10:25.56 | woglinde | x-fade was quicker |
| 10:26.28 | felipec | X-Fade: so in the mean time there's no way I can promote my package? |
| 10:26.47 | X-Fade | felipec: No, it will be removed behind the scenes and rebuilt. |
| 10:26.56 | felipec | crap |
| 10:27.19 | X-Fade | This is the best thing we can do for end users. |
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| 10:27.57 | woglinde | thresh uh what binary package? |
| 10:28.22 | woglinde | thresh apt-get source libxcb? |
| 10:28.49 | felipec | X-Fade: yeah, but in the meantime my users need to enable extras-devel just to use this package |
| 10:29.18 | thresh | woglinde: oh, sorry, i was wrong with the source package name. It is xcb-proto, of course. |
| 10:29.24 | woglinde | felipec I am sure they will solve it that week |
| 10:29.43 | woglinde | I think your user can just wait this couple of days |
| 10:29.59 | X-Fade | felipec: You have to put your misery in the background on this. |
| 10:30.03 | thresh | woglinde: yeah, i did apt-get source xcb-proto and rebuilt that package and got python-xcbgen binary deb. I wonder why the latter is not available by default, without rebuilding, though. |
| 10:30.11 | X-Fade | It should not break for end-users. |
| 10:30.15 | woglinde | thresh ???? |
| 10:30.29 | thresh | duh. |
| 10:30.30 | X-Fade | I know that is a pain, but there is not more I can do. |
| 10:30.38 | X-Fade | I didn't release the sdk :) |
| 10:30.45 | felipec | woglinde: yes, but I will need to keep checking until I see it's solved, and then click on promote |
| 10:30.47 | woglinde | x-fade the left hand? |
| 10:31.00 | woglinde | or the right? |
| 10:31.21 | woglinde | epic fail of to low communication |
| 10:31.21 | X-Fade | felipec: There will be a post when everything is done. |
| 10:31.33 | X-Fade | woglinde: Well the problem has always been there. |
| 10:31.35 | felipec | X-Fade: ah, cool :) |
| 10:31.40 | X-Fade | But in diablo we just don't cared. |
| 10:31.49 | X-Fade | Which resulted in uninstallable apps in Extras. |
| 10:32.11 | X-Fade | Better prevent that now, we should be more professional as a community too. |
| 10:32.17 | thresh | okay, here we go. There is a source package named xcb-proto. debian/control in it it has two binary packages: xcb-proto and python-xcbgen. Latter is not available on public repos. |
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| 10:32.19 | X-Fade | Works for me is not enough ;) |
| 10:32.26 | AdmiralSausage | Guest85647, I can create an account in ICQ but it never oconnects. same thing? pidgin rorks jufst fine |
| 10:32.41 | mece | where's the random reboot bug? |
| 10:32.56 | Stskeeps | thresh: python isn't part of SDK i think so |
| 10:33.05 | Guest85647 | AdmiralSausage: Same problem here |
| 10:33.25 | thresh | Stskeeps: yeah, that's why http://maemo.org/packages/search/?org_maemo_packages_search[1][property]=name&org_maemo_packages_search[1][constraint]=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search[1][value]=python returns so many 'python' packages. |
| 10:33.29 | Guest85647 | pidgin worksfor sure. |
| 10:33.45 | jjo | python is in the repositories, but it's not officially supported |
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| 10:33.54 | Stskeeps | ah |
| 10:34.02 | jjo | also we do not provide all binaries for all source packages on purpose |
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| 10:34.16 | jjo | sometimes it's a mistake but not always |
| 10:34.33 | Stskeeps | worth exploring in a bug report maybe, jjo? |
| 10:34.43 | jjo | possibly |
| 10:34.44 | thresh | jjo: how do i know if it is? |
| 10:34.50 | AdmiralSausage | Guest85647, I don't use ICQ much so not a big deal for me. wierd that pidgin is ok as it's the same library underneath. |
| 10:35.01 | jjo | but usually we try to provide the binaries that are on the device |
| 10:35.26 | Stskeeps | thresh: submit a bug on it against SDK, missing binary package and let's see what it concludes with. it can be a plus for you that it is a package you need but you can't include in extras cos it's in SDK |
| 10:35.26 | AdmiralSausage | IM is a huge battery drainer for me so I can't generally stay online anyway |
| 10:35.44 | thresh | the lack of python-xcbgen is the most annoying thing because i cant build VLC for maemo without it |
| 10:35.52 | thresh | Stskeeps: okay. |
| 10:36.01 | Stskeeps | and mention your specific use case |
| 10:36.21 | jjo | if a developer developes a piece of software against binaries in the SDK it would be nice if it was pretty likely to work on the device also |
| 10:36.28 | jjo | without extra binaries |
| 10:36.38 | wazd | hello maemo |
| 10:36.42 | thresh | it will. |
| 10:36.46 | woglinde | hi wazd |
| 10:36.54 | woglinde | libnl1 is problem too |
| 10:36.56 | felipec | AdmiralSausage: it depends which telepathy CMs you use for IM |
| 10:36.56 | jjo | and without the temptation to add the SDK repositories on the device to satisfy these dependencies == bad idea |
| 10:37.07 | felipec | I have no problems staying online all the time |
| 10:37.19 | Guest85647 | Admiralsausage: Yes. So i think I will use pidgin in the future as I already do. |
| 10:37.21 | thresh | yeah, of course. the plan is to minimize vlc external dependancies. |
| 10:37.34 | Stskeeps | thresh: why does it need python-xcb btw? |
| 10:37.40 | Stskeeps | (out of curiousity) |
| 10:37.42 | frals | ah, only sent 75 MMS the last month, wasnt that bad ;D |
| 10:37.49 | jjo | if you need extra binaries in the SDK you'll most propably also understand that you have to provide them for the device also |
| 10:38.07 | thresh | Stskeeps: to build some contrib libraries vlc needs to be linked with. |
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| 10:38.27 | Guest85647 | AdmiralSausage: I have the same power problems if i enable skype. Better stay offline with IMs. |
| 10:38.43 | woglinde | thresh disable them for now |
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| 10:38.58 | woglinde | or you really needs the python-bindings? |
| 10:39.00 | AdmiralSausage | felipec: got the "pidgin protocols plugin" so I'd assume they were using the same libpurple as pidgin itself (not checked though) |
| 10:39.50 | felipec | AdmiralSausage: yeah, they should... I think most libpurple plugins are poorly developed... but it also depends which ones exactly you use |
| 10:40.09 | renato | Hi! I've got my Nokia N900 bricked. I can't make it on Flashing mode (that's with the usb signal on the right upper corner). Cananyone help? |
| 10:40.22 | Guest85647 | So in generally the icq plugin is broken. |
| 10:40.40 | Guest85647 | Maybe I go to file a bugreport |
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| 10:42.00 | felipec | Guest85647: you can try on Pidgin's tracker, but I wouldn't have much hope on getting it fixed |
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| 10:42.37 | AdmiralSausage | Guest85647: looks like it. I can add the account, but can't sign in even with the same settings as pidgin. just stays on 'not signed in' |
| 10:42.55 | Guest85647 | hm... but at least the developers get a msg that it's broken. |
| 10:43.05 | Guest85647 | Yes. same for me. |
| 10:43.23 | felipec | wait, so it works in Pidgin on the N900, but not telepathy? |
| 10:43.35 | Guest85647 | yes. |
| 10:43.35 | AdmiralSausage | felipec: yes |
| 10:43.42 | Guest85647 | pidgin works fine. |
| 10:44.02 | felipec | then it's a telepathy-haze issue |
| 10:44.31 | pupnik | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware renato |
| 10:45.00 | felipec | you can try disabling the account, then on a terminal: HAZE_PERSIST=1 HAZE_DEBUG=all /usr/lib/telepathy/telepathy-haze > ~/debug.log |
| 10:45.13 | Guest85647 | so i should file the bug against telpathy-haze |
| 10:45.46 | felipec | Guest85647: I would file it against telepathy-extras: http://maemo.org/packages/view/telepathy-extras/ |
| 10:46.09 | felipec | but the debug log would be very useful |
| 10:46.18 | Guest85647 | ah ok! I will do it later on. |
| 10:46.28 | Guest85647 | Includung the log |
| 10:46.41 | aep | hm constant 25% cpu usage when idle. is that normal? |
| 10:47.35 | X-Fade | aep: How do you measure that? |
| 10:47.36 | renato | Pupnik: thanx, i've tried that but it doesn't go into Flash mode. Is there a way to make Win7 work as winXP? |
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| 10:47.54 | aep | X-Fade: htop |
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| 10:48.06 | aep | over ssh |
| 10:48.14 | X-Fade | aep: Which app is running on top? |
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| 10:48.28 | wjt | Is there an officially-sanctioned way to file bugs against the Ovi Store? |
| 10:48.51 | pupnik | renato: i don't know how to use windows |
| 10:48.54 | aep | X and hildonsomething |
| 10:48.55 | Guest85647 | thx for your help! |
| 10:49.07 | aep | hildon-desktop |
| 10:49.19 | X-Fade | aep: Some applet active? |
| 10:49.31 | aep | applet= widget? |
| 10:49.36 | X-Fade | yes |
| 10:49.40 | aep | yes, lots |
| 10:49.51 | X-Fade | start with disabling those ;) |
| 10:49.51 | aep | rss, weather, calendar |
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| 10:49.59 | X-Fade | To see if that stops it. |
| 10:50.00 | aep | they draw even when idle? oO |
| 10:50.09 | aep | but going to try, yeah |
| 10:50.09 | X-Fade | They should not. |
| 10:50.15 | kryptoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:50.17 | renato | Pupnik: thanx again, seems that i'll have to keep on searching.... =\ |
| 10:50.30 | X-Fade | aep: But that would be a good thing to find out ;) |
| 10:50.47 | felipec | aep: also try dimming the screen |
| 10:50.53 | pupnik | renato: make sure device is really off before pluggin in? remove battery to make sure? |
| 10:50.58 | felipec | er, blanking |
| 10:51.06 | aep | felipec: actually... i just figured that does it |
| 10:51.14 | aep | its all idle now, except dbus taking 10% |
| 10:51.29 | aep | oh and htop itself.. |
| 10:51.41 | felipec | htop takes *a lot* of cpu |
| 10:51.54 | aep | this thing doesnt have acpi has it? would be interesting to check with powertop |
| 10:52.10 | X-Fade | Also notice that 25 of cpu in low frequency is different from 25% at full power. |
| 10:52.12 | aep | since battery lasts not even a day |
| 10:52.21 | aep | yeah |
| 10:52.28 | X-Fade | There is powertop. |
| 10:52.33 | aep | i'm more interested in wakups anyway |
| 10:52.35 | aep | really? where |
| 10:52.57 | X-Fade | sdk/tools repo, IIRC. |
| 10:53.23 | aep | hm i have tools, but cant find powertop |
| 10:54.01 | renato | Pupnik: i'll try connecting without the battery in. Do you know if the sim card needs to be in? |
| 10:54.42 | AdmiralSausage | felipec: can't disable the accout as such as it doesn't have the checkbox. I think because it's never been signed in before. |
| 10:54.57 | pupnik | i meant temporarily remove battery to ensure it is off. |
| 10:55.11 | pupnik | i don't know if sim card affects flashing |
| 10:55.14 | AdmiralSausage | felipec: talking about icq plugin again |
| 10:55.19 | SpeedEvil | renato: can't remove bat and have it work |
| 10:56.32 | AdmiralSausage | felipec: I can see plenty of activity in that log file when I sign into (eg) MSN. but when I attempt to sign in to ICQ, the account dialog disappears and nothin is written to the log. |
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| 10:59.47 | aep | according to google, powertop should be built in, but i dont have it. oO |
| 11:01.02 | AdmiralSausage | aep: i found that too. I got some guy to email it to me from this forum. not ideal, and noone could work out why i didn!t have it! |
| 11:01.44 | aep | i ordered mine from the us 3 weeks ago. you? |
| 11:01.52 | renato | SpeedEvil: it seems the battery needs to be fully loaded for the flasher to work. Damn phone wont charged when fully bricked. Have to wait till i get my hands on a 5800 battery as i can't find anyone with the n900... |
| 11:02.00 | AdmiralSausage | uk, early december |
| 11:02.02 | aep | might be broken formware. would explain all the crashes... |
| 11:02.07 | renato | Thanx anyway guys! |
| 11:02.41 | aep | AdmiralSausage: US version too? |
| 11:02.51 | AdmiralSausage | aep: doubt it, i think it just doesn't ship with it. other people (i think) hat tetsting fw versions |
| 11:02.53 | aep | oh uk |
| 11:03.01 | aep | hm |
| 11:03.13 | SpeedEvil | renato: it will charge |
| 11:03.34 | SpeedEvil | renato: it just won't charge at more than 100mA from a computer, or 500mA from the charger |
| 11:03.36 | aep | testing might be more stable then what i have here :/ |
| 11:03.45 | SpeedEvil | accorfding at least to the l3/l4 manual |
| 11:03.47 | aep | any change of bricking when running testing? |
| 11:04.17 | AdmiralSausage | aep have you enabled extras devel & testing and apt-get install powertop? it might have been packaged since |
| 11:04.35 | aep | not yet. i am about to |
| 11:05.10 | SpeedEvil | it's not. |
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| 11:05.21 | SpeedEvil | apt-get install powertop - dose nothing |
| 11:05.22 | aep | ew :( |
| 11:05.27 | skon | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:05.40 | aep | well i'll go compile it myself then later |
| 11:05.43 | SpeedEvil | skon: err - that's the whole point of pdf |
| 11:05.50 | aep | can't be that hard, its just linux-arm isnt it? |
| 11:05.55 | woglinde | http://maemo.org/packages/view/powertop/ |
| 11:06.10 | SpeedEvil | skon: pdf is a fixed page format, you can't wrap it |
| 11:06.10 | AdmiralSausage | aep: will sent it direct to you if you're comfortable with it |
| 11:06.17 | woglinde | same as with libnl |
| 11:06.34 | SpeedEvil | Convert to html or something, and then ... |
| 11:06.50 | skon | SpeedEvil: Yeah might have to do that |
| 11:06.58 | aep | AdmiralSausage: sure. |
| 11:07.05 | woglinde | are you need to be root |
| 11:07.10 | skon | used to be able to wrap text in previous pdf reader |
| 11:07.18 | woglinde | apt-get install rootsh |
| 11:07.21 | woglinde | sudo gainroot |
| 11:07.23 | woglinde | powertop |
| 11:07.29 | aep | woglinde: you're talking to me? |
| 11:07.35 | woglinde | sure |
| 11:07.38 | aep | i am root. and there is no powertop binary anywhere |
| 11:07.53 | aep | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:08.12 | Remosi | theres never been powertop on my n900 either |
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| 11:08.17 | woglinde | /sbin/powertop |
| 11:08.24 | aep | woglinde: nope |
| 11:08.34 | aep | all i have there is poweroff |
| 11:08.42 | woglinde | as root too? |
| 11:08.52 | go1dfish | Pit: sounds like it's time to contact nokia |
| 11:09.06 | Remosi | aep, well... poweroff would help save significant amounts of energy on your phone..... |
| 11:09.14 | aep | woglinde: yes |
| 11:09.17 | woglinde | hm pr1.1 |
| 11:09.19 | woglinde | maybee |
| 11:09.26 | aep | what? |
| 11:09.45 | woglinde | the updated version |
| 11:09.54 | aep | well i got mine from the second wave |
| 11:10.14 | woglinde | did you update it to pr1.1? |
| 11:10.24 | woglinde | and which country? |
| 11:10.26 | aep | err, i did update it to something, yes |
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| 11:10.30 | aep | its a US device |
| 11:10.35 | woglinde | maybee thats the problwm |
| 11:10.38 | woglinde | hm ah |
| 11:10.52 | Remosi | I have a Pr1.1, it is a US device (although I'm physically in NZ) |
| 11:10.53 | woglinde | I remember slightly some other us user didnt have powertop |
| 11:11.16 | woglinde | maybee powertop cannt scope with the cdma modem |
| 11:11.24 | woglinde | but that are all wild guesses |
| 11:11.36 | woglinde | vi VDVsx |
| 11:11.37 | aep | um its a different modem? |
| 11:11.38 | aep | crap |
| 11:11.42 | woglinde | sure |
| 11:11.48 | woglinde | cdma vs. gsm |
| 11:11.54 | go1dfish | woglinde: no |
| 11:12.02 | go1dfish | there is no cdma version of the n900 |
| 11:12.05 | X-Fade | woglinde: there is no cdma modem ;) |
| 11:12.07 | aep | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:12.08 | go1dfish | the us model is gsm like the rest of them |
| 11:12.09 | woglinde | uh? |
| 11:12.10 | VDVsx | woglinde, I'm not a file, you can't open me with vi :D |
| 11:12.12 | woglinde | lol |
| 11:12.22 | go1dfish | there is WCDMA, but thats a whole different thing (3g for some gsm networks) |
| 11:12.35 | go1dfish | and all n900's support wcdma |
| 11:12.41 | woglinde | I thought without cdm you are lost in us |
| 11:12.42 | AdmiralSausage | VDVsx: everything is a file! |
| 11:12.52 | aep | woglinde: i'm not in the US :P |
| 11:13.02 | go1dfish | the only hardware difference I'm aware of across regions on the n900 is the keyboard layout/print |
| 11:13.14 | aep | and the .de keyboard sucks |
| 11:13.14 | go1dfish | woglinde: in the rural areas yeah, cdma is all there is |
| 11:13.40 | go1dfish | in more civilized/dense areas gsm coverage is decent/getting better |
| 11:14.16 | woglinde | hm but still stands usversions missing powertop |
| 11:14.32 | aep | AdmiralSausage: nope that binary won't work D: |
| 11:14.34 | aep | status: Unknown job: pmtrackerdaemon |
| 11:14.36 | go1dfish | I'm pretty sure mine has powertop |
| 11:15.04 | AdmiralSausage | aep: really? did you run it a second time? |
| 11:15.16 | aep | yes |
| 11:15.23 | aep | uh wait, it works |
| 11:15.24 | renato | SpeedEvil: i have tried a lots of ways to falsh the phone and read many many posts about ppl tryng to unbrick it. My last hope before taking it back to the shop is that the battery isn't fully loaded. I left it charging through the whole night and still it didn't charge. I hope (if i can fix it) that this thing won't happen very often as i need the phone to work properly cause i'm always travelling and can't waste much time unbrick |
| 11:15.34 | aep | its just different then the powertop i know |
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| 11:16.55 | aep | huh wait, usbhost? |
| 11:17.06 | aep | this thing has an usb host mode? |
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| 11:23.15 | aep | well powertop tells me nothing |
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| 11:24.03 | aep | other then that there are lots of wakups |
| 11:24.09 | aep | but from what... no clue |
| 11:25.13 | X-Fade | There are tools fo that in tools, iirc. |
| 11:25.14 | thresh | woglinde: well vlc is totally useless without libxcb, so i really need python-xcbgen :) the one in standard repositories is crippled. |
| 11:25.37 | go1dfish | aep: the drivers support usbhost, the hardware/circuitry does not as I understand it |
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| 11:26.25 | aep | well there is an irq for it! |
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| 11:26.52 | aep | i guess i'm just reading this all wrong. |
| 11:27.00 | aep | the powertop i have on my desktop is easier |
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| 11:37.05 | SpeedEvil | go1dfish: not quite true as I understand it - the lowest level driver does not support the chip in question for host mode. According to the readings of datasheets and kernels I've done |
| 11:37.31 | SpeedEvil | renato: how are you verifying it diddn't charge? |
| 11:37.51 | go1dfish | honestly I'm afraid to do too much connecting/disconnecting on the microusb port |
| 11:38.16 | xorAxAx | go1dfish: i smoothed down the plug |
| 11:38.26 | go1dfish | xorAxAx: yeah me to |
| 11:39.05 | go1dfish | lots of discussion about it on this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37107 |
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| 11:44.23 | xorAxAx | "fwiw the cases reported here were pre-production devices. This problem was addressed in the final sales devices. " |
| 11:47.01 | go1dfish | keep reading |
| 11:47.08 | go1dfish | there have been reports on production devices as well |
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| 11:49.49 | xorAxAx | too much noise in that thread |
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| 11:50.46 | tgalal_ | HI, is it possible to show that a person is typing in conversations? like for msn or google talk |
| 11:54.54 | lardman | morning |
| 11:55.05 | SpeedEvil | morning |
| 11:55.27 | lardman | X-Fade: did you see the email from Thomas Tanner re upload rights? Would you mind taking a look at that as we'd like to get some code into the repo asap. Thanks |
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| 11:55.56 | lardman | exciting exam invigilations! /me goes to find a coffee to wake up |
| 11:56.22 | SpeedEvil | It's gotta be exciting - it's got vigil in there! |
| 11:56.43 | X-Fade | lardman: Will look at it after lunch. |
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| 11:58.39 | KenYoung | X-Fade, Are you in charge of the maemo garage website? |
| 12:04.28 | lardman | X-Fade: thanks |
| 12:05.07 | lardman | X-Fade: uername is tanner if that's of use |
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| 12:06.44 | wazd | X-Fade: maemo.org works like a charm, great job :) |
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| 12:17.46 | tekojo | wazd X-Fade and feri have been working like crazed lemmings to make things good |
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| 12:18.44 | wazd | tekojo: I can only imagine :) |
| 12:20.34 | aep | hm how does maemo find windows shares? it lists my gfs vista but not my samba share |
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| 12:20.49 | alterego | aep: netbios |
| 12:20.56 | aep | ah |
| 12:21.17 | alterego | aep: you should be able to see it if you enter the address manually however. |
| 12:21.49 | pupnik | thing about websites is people tend to assume everything always works, when they are often actually complex applications managing a lot of (often dirty) data |
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| 12:25.01 | aep | alterego: and where do i enter that? |
| 12:25.03 | aep | the file manager doesnt seem to have any option to enter something |
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| 12:25.39 | hrw | maemo filemanager? it is parody of application |
| 12:25.46 | hrw | s/filemanager/files/ |
| 12:25.53 | aep | there isnt any other |
| 12:26.34 | aep | i doubt you used fuse for this so i can just do it manually |
| 12:27.25 | aep | oh well, going to copy it using usb... |
| 12:28.07 | wazd | all: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=481778&postcount=46 |
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| 12:28.31 | wazd | any help is much appreciated |
| 12:30.04 | pupnik | what color mess where wazd ? on some user theme? |
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| 12:35.52 | koala_man | I can sync contacts and calendar with google just fine until I change the icon of a contact, then it fails. it appears completely reproducible. is this a known issue? |
| 12:37.51 | mtd | koala_man: I'm going to try that now. How do you fix it (delete the MfE account and re-set-up?)? |
| 12:38.12 | fcrozat | mtd: no need to delete |
| 12:38.17 | fcrozat | try to force a full resync |
| 12:38.26 | mtd | fcrozat: thx |
| 12:38.28 | fcrozat | you might need to clear your calendar on n900 |
| 12:38.40 | koala_man | no, re-setup fails too. doing a full resync fails. changing the contact icon back worked a few times |
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| 12:38.50 | fcrozat | (I usually need to do so when sync breaks, like when you try to merge contact) |
| 12:38.59 | fcrozat | koala_man: did you clear all your calendar data ? |
| 12:39.14 | wazd | pupnik: well, my Marina theme has it :) |
| 12:39.27 | wazd | pupnik: I don't know what template color does what |
| 12:39.29 | koala_man | fcrozat: I did rm -r .calendar |
| 12:39.30 | pupnik | ahh context |
| 12:39.56 | fcrozat | koala_man: well, removing them with UI might be better (just a guess) ;) |
| 12:40.14 | koala_man | I didn't figure out how to delete everything at once |
| 12:40.27 | koala_man | but I did go into the calendar to verify that nothing was there |
| 12:40.57 | fcrozat | koala_man: try to delete the n900 calendar, it will complain "can't delete calendar, want to delete all entries instead ?" :) |
| 12:41.00 | mtd | koala_man: to delete everything from the calender, I attemp to delete the calendar itself. The Calendar app then asks if you want to delete all the events instead (for the N900 calendar). |
| 12:41.06 | mtd | fcrozat: jinx |
| 12:41.08 | mtd | :) |
| 12:41.20 | koala_man | how do you delete the calendar itself? |
| 12:41.42 | fcrozat | koala_man: you can't (because it is the system calendar) but it will clear all entries |
| 12:41.52 | koala_man | I mean, how do you try to delete it |
| 12:42.32 | mtd | koala_man: Calendar -> Settings -> Edit calendars |
| 12:42.48 | koala_man | ah |
| 12:43.28 | redeeman | have anyone precompiled the pidgin-otr plugin for maemo? |
| 12:44.11 | hrw | redeeman: it is in extras(something) |
| 12:44.17 | redeeman | ah ok |
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| 12:46.15 | gks200 | hi |
| 12:47.30 | hrw | zeenix: rygel question I have |
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| 12:50.57 | jebba | qgil: "Distributing devices to community developers around Maemo, KDE & Debian - BAU" What's BAU? |
| 12:51.09 | jebba | redeeman: ya, i did |
| 12:51.31 | frals | "business as usual"? |
| 12:51.31 | jebba | i think it hit extras-devel heh. If it made it thru the builder |
| 12:51.37 | jebba | ah |
| 12:51.40 | gks200 | hi guys, i have problem in installing maemo SDK. someone please help Documentation/Maemo 5 Final SDK Installation Contents [hide] 1 Introduction 1.1 What is not i |
| 12:51.59 | gks200 | hi guys, i have problem in installing maemo SDK. someone please help |
| 12:52.24 | roide | what problem ? |
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| 12:52.59 | Stskeeps | jebba: it's good he's working on distributing devices, device queue must be starting then |
| 12:53.09 | jebba | probably the akamai "last mile" problem, if that hasnt been fixed yet. |
| 12:53.43 | hrw | did someone finally built some kind of file manager other then MC for maemo5? |
| 12:53.46 | jebba | what device queue? It's early, i really need things explained ;) |
| 12:53.55 | jebba | ls, cp, mv' |
| 12:53.58 | jebba | ;) |
| 12:54.00 | hrw | jebba: haha |
| 12:54.05 | Stskeeps | jebba: http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_Developer_Device_Queue |
| 12:54.26 | zeenix | hrw: yes |
| 12:54.44 | zeenix | hrw: in a meeting so could be slow in replying |
| 12:54.56 | mtd | telepath-/win 11 |
| 12:55.38 | DocScrutinizer51 | jebba: mooin |
| 12:55.46 | hrw | zeenix: I can wait |
| 12:56.12 | gks200 | i am able to install xephyr, but not able to run it |
| 12:56.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | hrw: what's wrong with mc? |
| 12:56.49 | hrw | DocScrutinizer51: suxx in portrait? |
| 12:56.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | k |
| 12:57.03 | redeeman | how might i disable the camera sound? |
| 12:57.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: shutter or recordng? |
| 12:57.48 | redeeman | for normal picture taking |
| 12:57.53 | hrw | redeeman: cd /usr/share/sounds/;rm *cam*wav or sth like that |
| 12:58.13 | DocScrutinizer51 | replace the audio file by a link to dev/null |
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| 12:58.40 | redeeman | might it not get upset when it cant read? |
| 12:58.40 | Shadikka | redeeman: switch to silent mode |
| 12:59.04 | redeeman | Shadikka: ah, didn't test that :) |
| 12:59.15 | redeeman | also, i have noticed that there now appears to be a "enter code for unlocking sim card" in the settings menu - it wasnt there before, perhaps PR1.1 brought it, what is it? and what code exactly does it want? afaik my sim is not locked |
| 12:59.15 | Shadikka | At least I've heard that it should work :P |
| 12:59.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: when you have a link from foo.wav to dev/null it has nothing to complain about |
| 13:00.35 | DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: that's PUK aiui |
| 13:00.35 | ifreq | woah conboy gets updated like 2 times a week |
| 13:00.36 | ifreq | =) |
| 13:00.38 | ifreq | gotta like it |
| 13:00.58 | redeeman | DocScrutinizer51: i got all those codes for the SIM, but what unlocking exactly does it do? |
| 13:01.32 | DocScrutinizer51 | PUK unlocks a SIM with 3false-PIN lock |
| 13:01.43 | redeeman | but its not locked now? the pin code works |
| 13:02.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | so you dont need PUK. feel happy! |
| 13:02.33 | redeeman | that makes no sense, the puk code should only be requested if the pin code fails and requires puk, why is that menu item then available after i've entered pin? |
| 13:02.41 | DocScrutinizer51 | and don't forket your PIN otherwise you'll need PUK |
| 13:02.42 | redeeman | (and that option was not there before) |
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| 13:03.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | forget |
| 13:03.40 | DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: I have not the slightest idea why it's implemented that way |
| 13:03.48 | redeeman | either way |
| 13:03.53 | redeeman | it should not be shown when all is well then |
| 13:04.24 | DocScrutinizer51 | doesn't bother me |
| 13:04.36 | redeeman | well... it bothers me that im not sure what its doing there exactly |
| 13:04.41 | redeeman | i don't care that its there, i wanna know WHY |
| 13:05.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | ask Nokia customer service. Then enlighten us ;-) |
| 13:05.17 | redeeman | i will |
| 13:05.44 | mtd | ugh, I always have to kill telepathy-butterfly's python process when I switch from WiFi to GPRS :( |
| 13:06.22 | Caesium | the normal way to ask for a PUK on a phone is to insist it's entered after you got your PIN wrong 3 times, but the N900 isn't a phone, it's a tablet. |
| 13:06.31 | wjt | mtd: filed a bug? :) |
| 13:06.38 | Caesium | I would be a bit miffed if I got my PIN wrong 3 times, then couldn't use my Internet tablet on wifi because it was insisting I enter a PUK |
| 13:06.52 | Caesium | therefore, it being in a menu for me to enter at my leisure is perfect |
| 13:07.03 | mtd | wjt: naw, I'm just at the complaining stage :). Before I file a bug I'll hace to do work and stuff, like finding logs. So I just waste this channel's time. |
| 13:07.08 | mtd | s/hace/have/ |
| 13:07.13 | mtd | infobot: stopit |
| 13:07.20 | wjt | bounces on /ignore |
| 13:07.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | Caesium: fair enough |
| 13:08.22 | redeeman | Caesium: yes, correct, but perhaps it should only be showed when the pin has been entered wrong, also, does that mean that before the update one couldnt enter puk code? |
| 13:08.23 | wjt | mtd: fair :) |
| 13:08.37 | Caesium | don't know, I didn't need my PUK before the update :) |
| 13:08.45 | Caesium | perhaps someone could downflash and try it ;) |
| 13:08.57 | Caesium | (have another phone handy to unlock your SIM) :P |
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| 13:10.04 | DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: Caesium: also the very basic method is to enter sth like "**4711*<PUK>#" and we all know the dialer doesn't yet(!) know how to enter those commendcode numbers |
| 13:11.06 | DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: yes, I'm quite sure with Pr1.0 you had now way to enter PUK |
| 13:11.08 | Caesium | redeeman: it only being shown when required sounds like a good idea for a bugs.maemo.org entry :) |
| 13:11.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | just adds complexity |
| 13:11.42 | redeeman | well i don't care, as long as i just know that's why its there |
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| 13:12.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | and this additional complexity might fail |
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| 13:15.31 | gks200 | hi, when i try to run Xephyr , i am getting the following error. |
| 13:15.31 | gks200 | [config/dbus] couldn't take over org.x.config: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied (Connection ":1.67" is not allowed to own the service "org.x.config.display2" due to security policies in the configuration file) |
| 13:15.39 | gks200 | anybody knows how to fix this? |
| 13:15.46 | lupine_85 | hee, maemo uses telepathy for sip |
| 13:16.34 | DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: hiding PUK menu implies querying the modem if PIN is locked. Modem might be shut down though (offline mode e.g.) or any other complications may happen like modem completely busy with UMTS data download or something |
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| 13:17.24 | redeeman | yes, as i said, i don't care that its there as long as i know that's why its there |
| 13:18.19 | DocScrutinizer51 | redeeman: I try to explain to you why (at least what I guess is why) |
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| 13:18.40 | redeeman | yes i know |
| 13:18.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | k |
| 13:19.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | afk for a coffee |
| 13:19.17 | Maemob | hi all, I am new to the community, I needed a help |
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| 13:20.07 | Maemob | how can I use my PC to install applications on N900? |
| 13:20.29 | ifreq | Maemob: what is wrong with application manager on phone? |
| 13:21.11 | Maemob | nothing actually, I am away from wlan |
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| 13:21.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | so the question isn't quite to the point I guess |
| 13:22.04 | adalal | Maemob: use the pc suite if you're in windows |
| 13:22.31 | adalal | Maemob: or, transfer installation files over to the phone, and run dpkg -i <filename> to install |
| 13:23.05 | Maemob | ok, let me put it it this way: how can I install a pre downloaded application on N900 through my PC? |
| 13:23.19 | DocScrutinizer51 | or set up usb networking with your PC as router' though that's quite tricky |
| 13:23.45 | Maemob | ok, I oppend the .install file, it is just redirecting the N900 to dowload site |
| 13:25.48 | tybollt | hmm I'm a bit annoyed that my n900 doesn't make my coffee or give me a backrub... when will nokia fix that? |
| 13:26.02 | tybollt | ;-) |
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| 13:26.47 | Maemob | can you guide me how to set up usb netwrking? |
| 13:27.00 | thresh | there is a howto on the wiki |
| 13:27.52 | Maemob | cool, I better refer it then, |
| 13:28.22 | Maemob | I read about red pill for .deb installations, is it not safe? |
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| 13:28.39 | MohammadAG | Maemob, it was removed from 51-1 |
| 13:28.41 | red | that was removed |
| 13:29.07 | MohammadAG | hi ppl |
| 13:29.39 | Maemob | ok, then is there any way to install using .deb files? |
| 13:30.12 | adalal | Maemob: it will have to be compiled for the maemo device |
| 13:30.34 | adalal | you can install using terminal |
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| 13:31.07 | Maemob | adalal, can you please guide me? |
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| 13:34.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | Maemob: to clearly say what you're planning to do would be a great start |
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| 13:34.22 | fatal^ | what's the proper way to autostart an application when the session starts on fremantle? |
| 13:35.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | Fatal: excellent question |
| 13:37.12 | Fatal | DocScrutinizer51: I didn't state one |
| 13:37.27 | Maemob | DocScrutinizer51: I am away from Network and I do not have connectivity on my N900, but I have a PC which has Internet, then how can I dowload and install aplications? |
| 13:37.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | oops |
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| 13:38.47 | Maemob | is there any way? |
| 13:39.09 | MohammadAG | Maemob, download the deb files and the dependencies, then use rootsh and dpkg -i to install them |
| 13:39.40 | MohammadAG | or get a wifi adapter and create an ad hoc connection |
| 13:40.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | that's what I was pondering ATM |
| 13:40.32 | Maemob | MohammadAG: ok, let me try this, this is something I can try right away |
| 13:40.56 | MohammadAG | you need to install rootsh in one way or another though |
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| 13:41.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: do you have rootsh installed already? |
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| 13:41.27 | MohammadAG | yes |
| 13:41.37 | DocScrutinizer51 | sorry |
| 13:41.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | Maemob: do you have rootsh installed already? |
| 13:41.52 | Maemob | yes I have |
| 13:41.57 | MohammadAG | heh tab :p |
| 13:41.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | ooh good |
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| 13:42.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: sure :-P |
| 13:43.11 | Maemob | I am trying, I will be back, thanks so far |
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| 13:44.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | Maemob: so procedure is simple: download the .deb with your PC. Copy to N900 using mass storage. fire 'root' in terminal. then install using dpkg as adviced above |
| 13:45.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: put your LED to pirpse yet? |
| 13:45.45 | fatal^ | DocScrutinizer51: /etc/osso-af-init/ maybe? |
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| 13:46.06 | DocScrutinizer51 | fatal^: huh? |
| 13:46.21 | Maemob | Ok, thanks. |
| 13:46.41 | fatal^ | DocScrutinizer51: the way to autostart progams in the users session... |
| 13:46.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | aah |
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| 13:47.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | fatal^: no idea, honestly. Tried this for maemo4 once (N810) but gave up |
| 13:48.15 | Dialekt | i wonder what will be announced thursday |
| 13:48.19 | Dialekt | maemo 6? |
| 13:48.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | it involved editing one of the very classical X files, like ~/.xinit or sth |
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| 13:49.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | but didn,t pan out in the end |
| 13:50.04 | GeneralAntilles | Oops, guess I took +r off too early. |
| 13:50.09 | GeneralAntilles | Sorry, folks! |
| 13:50.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | GeneralAntilles: ooh? |
| 13:50.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | runs to check on one of the non ctcp filtered clients |
| 13:51.21 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer51, lots of GNAA spam around 2:45AM EST. |
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| 13:51.36 | nedko | what you use for microblogging in n900? |
| 13:51.56 | GeneralAntilles | Mauku? MaStory? |
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| 13:52.37 | nedko | mauku does not behave very well here :] |
| 13:52.59 | joerg_42 | GeneralAntilles: EST? mind to convert to UTC? |
| 13:53.23 | nedko | mastory is for non-microbloging, i.e. real blog |
| 13:53.27 | GeneralAntilles | joerg_42, -5 |
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| 13:53.33 | nedko | at least accroding to the functionality i get here |
| 13:53.33 | joerg_42 | k |
| 13:54.10 | rkc | how to simulate click event using gdkevent / gtk_main_do_event ? |
| 13:56.55 | GeneralAntilles | Goddamn, 4 dupes. |
| 13:57.06 | tybollt | huh? |
| 13:57.25 | GeneralAntilles | Commit only needs to be clicked *once*. . . . |
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| 14:04.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | GeneralAntilles: 150332 <PaulFert`> DocScrutinizer51: my robot did trigger, but i have no OP in #maemo :) |
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| 14:05.01 | GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, ping? |
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| 14:05.34 | DocScrutinizer51 | GeneralAntilles: sure it doesn't help to set +r to stop a already joined malicious client |
| 14:06.21 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer51, they spam themselves into oblivion. |
| 14:06.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | yup |
| 14:06.41 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer51, what, do you want me to give PaulFerster op? |
| 14:06.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | not really been my suggestion |
| 14:07.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | just to let yu know that smart oneliner actually kinda works nice |
| 14:07.56 | GeneralAntilles | shrugs. |
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| 14:08.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | GeneralAntilles: nevermind |
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| 14:18.05 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer51, yep :) |
| 14:18.31 | MohammadAG | added the dbus-send for leds, plus a sleep 10 then a disable signal |
| 14:18.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | aah a timer. OK :-) |
| 14:19.04 | MohammadAG | was wondering if I could send a notification to the dashboard (like sms-s) that says xchat |
| 14:19.29 | MohammadAG | just for showing what it blinked for |
| 14:19.32 | igagis | Hi |
| 14:19.33 | DocScrutinizer51 | I guess it should be simple |
| 14:19.42 | MohammadAG | but dbus-send-notifications failed |
| 14:19.55 | igagis | Does anyone have any idea why could this be: http://pastebin.org/78682 |
| 14:20.13 | DocScrutinizer51 | once we got to know the right dbus incantation ;-) |
| 14:20.13 | igagis | and how to solve it |
| 14:20.54 | MohammadAG | igagis, dns problem |
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| 14:20.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: failed? threw error or simply no effect? |
| 14:21.00 | MohammadAG | could be your resolve.conf |
| 14:21.07 | MohammadAG | error i think |
| 14:21.12 | MohammadAG | sec i'll try again |
| 14:21.17 | MohammadAG | switching to wlan |
| 14:21.37 | igagis | MohammadAG: ok, I actually can open maemo.org by browser |
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| 14:22.05 | igagis | MohammadAG: ok, I actually can open maemo.org by browser |
| 14:22.15 | igagis | MohammadAG: but ping maemo.org does not work too |
| 14:22.31 | PhonoN900 | has anyone had any issues with hildon-thuimbnail process pegging your processor for an extended amount of time? |
| 14:22.47 | X-Fade | igagis: You can't ping maemo.org anyway. |
| 14:23.03 | igagis | X-Fade: ah, ok |
| 14:23.07 | DocScrutinizer51 | PhonoN900: seems to be normal |
| 14:23.16 | tekojo | igagis http://wiki.maemo.org/Developer_FAQ#Why_can_I_reach_an_IP-address_but_no_domain_inside_Scratchbox.3F |
| 14:23.17 | xorAxAx | BabelO: does your rds thingie work with mediabox? |
| 14:23.19 | MohammadAG | igagis, check your resolve.conf |
| 14:23.20 | PhonoN900 | it's been the top process all morning, and i don't think i've ever seen it before |
| 14:23.31 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer51, this should work right? |
| 14:23.34 | MohammadAG | dbus-send-notification "foo bar boo bah bang" |
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| 14:23.42 | alterego | What do we have in the way of bittorrrent clients for Maemo? |
| 14:23.57 | alterego | I'm thinking of porting transmission with both Gtk and Qt front ends. |
| 14:23.59 | X-Fade | PhonoN900: Added memory card with a lot of pictures or multimedia files? |
| 14:24.01 | pupnik | bleh manually resetting up vmplayer is a nice timesink |
| 14:24.04 | DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: no idea. never tested yet |
| 14:24.19 | MohammadAG | -sh: dbus-send-notification: not found |
| 14:24.51 | PhonoN900 | x-fade, i loaded a new album on yesterday, via transmission, but that is all... |
| 14:24.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: so the name or the path (or syntax) is wrong |
| 14:25.05 | igagis | tekojo, MohammadAG: thanks I will try that |
| 14:25.17 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer51, the command's wrong |
| 14:25.28 | MohammadAG | dbus-send is the command for dbus signals |
| 14:25.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: you might want to use mdbu (google for it) to introspect for correct method names |
| 14:25.46 | bfree1 | alterego: transmission (gtk) is already there (extras-testing) ;-) |
| 14:25.54 | MohammadAG | that one has -notification and it's not a parameter |
| 14:26.07 | MohammadAG | dbus monitor? |
| 14:26.33 | DocScrutinizer51 | mdbus does active introspection |
| 14:26.35 | alterego | bfree1: awesome, I don't have to do anythign then :) |
| 14:27.36 | PhonoN900 | my usual offenders in conky are hildon-desktop and xorg, which i assume are fine... i |
| 14:27.41 | wjt | mdbus? yet another better dbus-send clone? |
| 14:27.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: see sth like http://wiki.openmoko.org/mdbus |
| 14:28.18 | PhonoN900 | this process is running between 30-60 percent of 500mhz, constantly |
| 14:28.35 | Stskeeps | PhonoN900: hildon-video-thumbnailer you mean? |
| 14:29.20 | X-Fade | PhonoN900: Are you sure it isn't indexing your torrents? |
| 14:29.32 | PhonoN900 | in conky all i see is "hildon-thumbnai" |
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| 14:30.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework/mdbus |
| 14:30.07 | PhonoN900 | xffade: i'm not sure of anything :) |
| 14:30.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | that's python and works flawlessly on maemo |
| 14:30.45 | PhonoN900 | goes off to check his torrents |
| 14:31.03 | ifreq | ah ww |
| 14:32.43 | lizardo | DocScrutinizer51: nice finding :) |
| 14:33.10 | angasuleN810 | is there an equivalent to alt-tab? |
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| 14:33.32 | angasuleN810 | to go back and fort, I mean, alt-tab then release |
| 14:33.35 | PhonoN900 | process is gone, i guess i over reacted. thanks for the help and suggestions, everybody |
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| 14:33.51 | DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: alas no |
| 14:34.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: just ctrl-BS |
| 14:34.22 | angasuleN810 | bummerous, I'm an obsessive multitasker |
| 14:34.43 | angasuleN810 | DocScrutinizer, what does that do? |
| 14:35.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: and for unknown reasons on dashboard not even cursor arrow keys work to select one |
| 14:35.40 | angasuleN810 | ctrl-bs doesn't seem to do anything for me |
| 14:35.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: ctrl-BS opens dashboard (taskswitcher) |
| 14:36.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: oooh on maemo4 |
| 14:36.22 | DocScrutinizer51 | no won't work there |
| 14:36.32 | angasuleN810 | my nicname is too subtle :-P |
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| 14:37.04 | angasuleN810 | in general I love the buttons |
| 14:37.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: but on N810 it works with homekey just like you'd expect |
| 14:37.28 | angasuleN810 | stardict is nicer on the n810 than my desktop, even |
| 14:37.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | by pressing short to switch and holding to select |
| 14:37.46 | angasuleN810 | but I mean quick switching |
| 14:38.24 | angasuleN810 | short shows the list as an overlay, hold takes me to the desktop |
| 14:38.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | no quick switching back and forth (afaik) :-( |
| 14:38.41 | xorAxAx | wuah, syncevolution deleted half of my calendar |
| 14:39.00 | xorAxAx | together with mobical |
| 14:39.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: multiple short jump to next in list. hold selects the one you just moved mark to |
| 14:39.57 | lopz | hola |
| 14:39.58 | wazd | I really wonder what bright mind decided to make text shadow the same color as default font color http://img10.imageshack.us/i/screenshot2010011914074.png/ |
| 14:40.27 | angasuleN810 | I don't like holding, I prefer one click and then d pad |
| 14:41.12 | DocScrutinizer51 | angasuleN810: (like the power button menu for selecting profiles on *ancient* phones ;-) |
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| 14:42.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | text shadow WTF - eeeeew |
| 14:42.12 | angasuleN810 | I like the power button menu :-P no need to hold! |
| 14:42.28 | DocScrutinizer51 | useless eyecandy crap |
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| 14:43.04 | angasuleN810 | is it useless or rather harmful? |
| 14:43.07 | *** mode/#maemo [+o GeneralAntilles] by ChanServ |
| 14:43.12 | *** mode/#maemo [+R] by GeneralAntilles |
| 14:44.09 | DocScrutinizer51 | more like harmful |
| 14:44.22 | *** mode/#maemo [-o GeneralAntilles] by GeneralAntilles |
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| 14:45.39 | joerg_42 | GeneralAntilles: anticipating further impact? |
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| 14:46.33 | GeneralAntilles | joerg_42, well, the last two times #freenode has said things have quieted down and I took it off, we got hit again. ;) |
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| 14:46.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | hehe |
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| 14:51.33 | DocScrutinizer51 | (taskswitching) so le's face that: N810 has 2 working concepts to switch tasks with kbd only (not using touchscreen) - short/long click of homebutton, and dpad. N900 has exactly ZERO. I'm wondering if this isn't a bug actually |
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| 14:51.49 | Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer51: ctrl-backspace. |
| 14:52.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | Stskeeps: and THEN?? |
| 14:52.06 | angasule | umh, +R makes it impossible to change nicks, too |
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| 14:52.17 | angasule | thanks, GeneralAntilles |
| 14:52.31 | Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer51: good point |
| 14:52.54 | angasule | can anyone recommend an msn program other than pidgin? |
| 14:53.14 | angasule | it crashes a lot, it's slow and a hog |
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| 14:55.41 | DocScrutinizer51 | angasule: (change nick) I guess you can switch to any nick actually registered to your 'account' (i.e. GROUPed) |
| 14:56.09 | DocScrutinizer-2 | actually no problem |
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| 14:56.50 | angasule | my n810 nick isn't registered at all, since most programs suck at dealing with nickserv in the middle of a session |
| 14:57.19 | pupnik | irssi on tablet could use a 'enter nick' script on firstrun |
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| 14:57.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | well +R is exactly to forbid login with unregistered nicks |
| 14:57.57 | AndrewFBlack | whats shortcut from screenshot about Ctrl Shift I or O? |
| 14:58.01 | Stskeeps | heh, like that ever stopped bots |
| 14:58.04 | Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: p |
| 14:58.14 | AndrewFBlack | p ahh I was way off |
| 14:58.28 | javispedro | morning |
| 14:58.28 | AndrewFBlack | btw when did I have to start identifying to talk in here? |
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| 14:59.54 | javispedro | hm.. any reason "happy new year" is still in topic? |
| 15:00.01 | frals | AndrewFBlack: after freenode got infected with spambots a day or so ago |
| 15:00.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | AndrewFBlack: 'p' like 'ppppprintscreen' ;-P |
| 15:00.58 | *** topic/#maemo by GeneralAntilles -> Welcome to #maemo | http://maemo.org/ | http://maemo.nokia.com/ | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org/ | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Free software mirror: http://espejo.freemoe.org/ |
| 15:01.16 | javispedro | ~GeneralAntilles++ |
| 15:01.37 | javispedro | er.. |
| 15:01.43 | FIQ | couldn't they make a temporary script g-lining everyone that send that line and not notices the link at all? |
| 15:01.49 | javispedro | that extraneous character before the pipe symbols again |
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| 15:02.07 | FIQ | i've no experience with making an ircd, just asking. :p |
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| 15:02.28 | *** topic/#maemo by javispedro -> Welcome to #maemo | http://maemo.org/ | http://maemo.nokia.com/ | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org/ | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Free software mirror: http://espejo.freemoe.org/ |
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| 15:08.00 | igagis | Hi All |
| 15:08.26 | igagis | I still did not resolve the problem |
| 15:08.44 | igagis | the questions is, is this normal: http://pastebin.org/78698 ? |
| 15:09.59 | igagis | (the original problem is here http://pastebin.org/78682) |
| 15:11.01 | bionoid | igagis: First link just tells you that one hop does not let your ICMP through. The second link says there is a problem _resolving_ the hostname, meaning your DNS setup is probably incorrect. |
| 15:11.07 | KamuiN900 | pumpernicl.e |
| 15:11.32 | bionoid | igagis: You could try echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 15:11.48 | igagis | bionoid: hm, ok, let me try that |
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| 15:14.08 | pupnik | i get a similar block of icmp igagis - that isnt really a problem to use the service |
| 15:14.13 | igagis | bionoid: no, it did not help |
| 15:14.32 | igagis | pupnik: so, how do you use it? |
| 15:14.37 | pupnik | you should be aple to apt-get now |
| 15:14.45 | igagis | pupnik: ah, ok |
| 15:14.48 | adalal | anyone know of a trip planning software? |
| 15:14.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | friggin pastebin ad just opened a second browser window with some crap when clicking first pastebin link above |
| 15:16.08 | pupnik | adalal: vi ? what do you need it to do? |
| 15:16.54 | adalal | pupnik: lol, you know how they have trippit, and worldmate for iphones and blackberries... is there any such software for maemo.. or for linux in general? |
| 15:17.09 | adalal | tripit* |
| 15:17.12 | pupnik | i dont know really |
| 15:17.25 | DocScrutinizer51 | wonders how to disable JS on microb |
| 15:18.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | temporarily(!) disable JS |
| 15:18.35 | adalal | is there a about:config? |
| 15:18.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | hmm |
| 15:19.16 | w00t | timeless_mbp_: question, why does microb constantly reset its useragent? |
| 15:20.03 | mtnbkr | igagis: try traceroute -T maemo.org if you're curious to see more of the route |
| 15:20.15 | adalal | w00t: it does? that's weird... i use the hide agent app... and it the ettings stick |
| 15:20.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | adalal: actually there is. Not practicable for fast switching of JS though |
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| 15:20.57 | adalal | DocScrutinizer, well, one could always build a script for it right :P |
| 15:21.04 | igagis | mtnbkr: yes, it found maemo.org that way |
| 15:21.11 | angasule | DocScrutinizer, I think a bookmark would work |
| 15:21.39 | angasule | DocScrutinizer, if I remember right, settings can be switched with an URL |
| 15:21.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | sounds interesting. No idea about such tings though |
| 15:22.37 | angasule | a short google would tell you, I don't know it myself |
| 15:22.57 | angasule | but it takes 2' and no scripting :-) |
| 15:23.05 | mtnbkr | wonders where his "simple brightness applet" went |
| 15:24.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | anyway I just learned there's a JS setting in menu under 'options' |
| 15:24.53 | angasule | cool |
| 15:25.13 | DocScrutinizer51 | fool |
| 15:26.54 | DocScrutinizer51 | nevertheless a key shortcut would be great. plus a tiny notifier icon thingie somewhere in a corner |
| 15:27.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | maybe th*t's there as well and I failed to notice. I'll shut up for a while |
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| 15:29.53 | w00t | 01/19@16:22:57 | 16:20 [timeless(n=timeless@65.75.195.122)] sorry. i can't comment because the channel is rude |
| 15:29.56 | w00t | 01/19@16:22:57 | 16:21 [timeless(n=timeless@65.75.195.122)] in short: the browser orders the engine to reset a bunch of prefs. why do you ask? (please repeat my comments to the |
| 15:29.59 | w00t | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:30.06 | w00t | 01/19@16:23:59 <w00t> I asked because it's a bit annoying; I'm dealing with a few sites that don't identify maemo as mobile correctly, so I want to (for them at least) switch |
| 15:30.09 | w00t | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:30.12 | w00t | 01/19@16:24:16 <w00t> usually changing it to something like "Maemo; better than iPhone" works |
| 15:30.20 | tybollt | heh |
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| 15:31.05 | w00t | (just so everyone is kept in the loop there, he's unable to talk due to +R) |
| 15:31.05 | tybollt | I guess the channel was locked to avoid spambots |
| 15:31.13 | tybollt | I'm actually all for it |
| 15:32.34 | GAN900 | Sites that identify Maemo as mobile piss me off. |
| 15:32.50 | GAN900 | timeless, /msg nickserv identify |
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| 15:33.20 | w00t | GAN900: it's sort of a hit and miss thing |
| 15:33.34 | w00t | GAN900: google reader, for example, is absolutely terrible |
| 15:34.09 | tybollt | is actually waiting for a google-breader... I will not be surprised :) |
| 15:34.10 | w00t | GAN900: facebook is also a bit irritating to use in some ways, in that I dislike having to zoom constantly, but at least they offer a seperate URL that I can use and don't *force* one UI on me by guessing what they think I want |
| 15:34.21 | w00t | (touch.facebook.com) |
| 15:34.28 | GAN900 | Yeah, mostly Newegg and such irritate me with their useless mobile versions. |
| 15:34.31 | Stskeeps | lite.facebook.com isn't bad |
| 15:34.37 | w00t | never used lite |
| 15:34.40 | w00t | touch is good. |
| 15:34.48 | _berto_ | and http://www.google.com/reader/i is very usable |
| 15:35.06 | w00t | _berto_: yeah, reader has alternatives |
| 15:35.27 | w00t | there are others, though (can't remember now, I found one yesterday, which is why I asked about this :-)) that do horrible guessing |
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| 15:36.08 | hrw | GReader is hard to use in MicroB also because browser steals keys |
| 15:37.02 | w00t | *nod* |
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| 15:37.32 | GAN900 | Wish some of these themes actually came with icon sets. |
| 15:38.16 | tybollt | what themes are good - what are you folks using? |
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| 15:38.30 | tybollt | has been running hitech for a few days now |
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| 15:40.31 | hrw | tybollt: still 'digital nature' - tried all ovi ones, hitech |
| 15:41.16 | hrw | ah... enabling manipulation mode in microb makes greader getting keys :) |
| 15:42.00 | angasule | I need MSN :/ |
| 15:42.16 | tybollt | you HAVE msn |
| 15:42.32 | angasule | where? |
| 15:42.37 | GAN900 | WordCity is nice |
| 15:42.43 | angasule | checks under the carpet |
| 15:42.51 | GAN900 | Although the colors are screwy. |
| 15:42.54 | hrw | angasule: msn is not not out of box - you need to install 'extra protocols for conversations and contacts' pacakge |
| 15:42.59 | Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: how did you solve the icons stuff? |
| 15:43.03 | AndrewFBlack | maemo-org theme is in testing now and here is screenshots http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=41363 |
| 15:43.22 | AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, all I have is App Manger icons so far that was easy they just go in background folder |
| 15:43.31 | angasule | hrw, thanks |
| 15:43.36 | Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: also your blurred text is worthless |
| 15:43.37 | Stskeeps | :P |
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| 15:43.53 | Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: at least in the SMS view |
| 15:44.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | has anyone seen problems with copying marked text in microb is somewhat broken? Sometimes I need to disable the cursormode to make copy show up in menu. ctrl-c doesn't work at all when those situations hit |
| 15:44.21 | AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, lol not an interesting converstation you wouldn want to read it lol |
| 15:44.31 | angasule | hrw, I don't see it |
| 15:44.34 | hrw | AndrewFBlack: nice, but I would drop orangre frames |
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| 15:44.52 | fiferboy | I like the orange frames |
| 15:44.54 | hrw | angasule: you need to enable 'extras' repository catalog in application manager |
| 15:45.03 | Stskeeps | hrw: it's not maemo.org theme for nothing |
| 15:45.03 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 15:45.17 | fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: The font colour for notifications is orange with and orange shadow on an orange background :) |
| 15:45.18 | AndrewFBlack | hrw, lol yeah everone else has longed the orange frames |
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| 15:45.29 | hrw | ;) |
| 15:45.35 | angasule | hrw, yes, I have it,hmm |
| 15:46.09 | TTilus | debugging help needed: my desktop effects (app change, desktop slide, background fade on menu, scroll) have been jerky and jumpy since last system upgrade, any idea why? how to debug? top shows >95% idle and nothing suspicious and scrolling/effects still jump randomly, but at least once every single time |
| 15:46.22 | Stskeeps | TTilus: PR1.1? |
| 15:46.28 | TTilus | yep |
| 15:46.29 | angasule | hrw, I have an N810 |
| 15:46.36 | Stskeeps | TTilus: is there anything doing heavy I/O? |
| 15:46.47 | TTilus | Stskeeps: how do i tell |
| 15:46.57 | X-Fade | TTilus: Or swapping? |
| 15:47.02 | TTilus | Stskeeps: should top show it? |
| 15:47.07 | TTilus | X-Fade: how do i tell? |
| 15:47.14 | hrw | angasule: ah.. so install accounts-plugin-haze (or other with 'haze' in it) |
| 15:47.23 | hrw | angasule: my n810 is discharged so cannot test |
| 15:47.30 | AndrewFBlack | fiferboy, its orange with white shadow on orange BG afraid only way I can fix it is make background grey I´ll do that in next release |
| 15:47.46 | angasule | hrw, no package has haze in the name |
| 15:47.53 | fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: I thought it was probably a limitation of the colour scheme |
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| 15:48.55 | fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: Also, on the lock screen the date is orange on an orange background |
| 15:48.57 | AndrewFBlack | fiferboy, yeah I get getting questions about changing font in just on program or widget have to keep telling people I have like 12 colors to work with and thats it. |
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| 15:49.25 | agi | hi, what's the recommended way to install scratchbox in debian(sid)? nokia's maemo-scratchbox-install_5.0.download ? |
| 15:49.26 | fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: Yeah, and the colours seem to be really geared towards dark themes |
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| 15:49.46 | AndrewFBlack | fiferboy, on that one I think I might draw a grey box on background since I like orange back and I cna change text |
| 15:50.01 | angasule | agi, the script will call apt-get, but I use squeeze |
| 15:50.27 | fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: And the calendar widget date box is white text on white background. That one is probably hardest to fix |
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| 15:50.58 | agi | angasule: I was wondering if the script is 'clean' enough, or if it will mess my current install... |
| 15:51.20 | angasule | agi, not sure, it does some strange stuff |
| 15:51.28 | hrw | angasule: try: purple-extra-protocols |
| 15:52.03 | AndrewFBlack | fiferboy, thats going to be imposible to fix unless I change hte white font on whole theme. I was trying to find the littleicon for the calendar but I can´t find t anywhere |
| 15:52.04 | angasule | agi, you are better off asking in #debian-arm or something, I guess |
| 15:52.33 | agi | angasule: not sure people @ #debian-arm know about this particular script... |
| 15:52.41 | fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: I'll look for it |
| 15:52.47 | agi | I guess I'll try it and see what happens |
| 15:53.11 | AndrewFBlack | fiferboy, thanks |
| 15:53.53 | AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, do you need to know the full path to each icon folder to make icons work? |
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| 15:54.42 | angasule | hrw, it's not showing in the app manager, weird, since I have pidgin installed |
| 15:54.46 | Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: mm, maybe we should make a template for icon sets too |
| 15:54.58 | Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: meiz did a freemantle-icons package |
| 15:55.16 | xorAxAx | DocScrutinizer51: is there a kind of profile daemon for openmoko or other platforms that e.g. silences the phone at night? |
| 15:55.51 | AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, seporate is would better I guess incase someone doesn´t want icons |
| 15:56.20 | wjt | angasule: the haze package is called something like "Pidgin protocols for Conversations and Contacts" currently |
| 15:56.23 | DocScrutinizer51 | xorAxAx: not afaik |
| 15:56.25 | wjt | (a name I think is misleading) |
| 15:56.46 | wjt | angasule: "Extra protocols for Conversations and Contacts" installs pretty much all the extra Telepathy CMs |
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| 15:57.13 | angasule | umh, I have pidgin installed, but I don't want it |
| 15:57.21 | angasule | I want anything else |
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| 15:57.35 | wjt | right. you can remove pidgin, and install "Extra protocols for Conversations and Contacts" |
| 15:57.51 | agi | where can I find the kernel .config used in maemo5/n900? I guess it's the one in rx51_defconfig, but is it accesible from any website? |
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| 15:58.09 | eijk | Hi, the repositories are currently broken? |
| 15:58.16 | hrw | agi: it is in maemo5 kernel source |
| 15:58.21 | eijk | http://repository.maemo.org/dists/fremantle/sdk/free/source/Sources.gz |
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| 15:58.39 | eijk | gives me a system error |
| 15:58.45 | X-Fade | eijk: Should not. Works for me? |
| 15:59.07 | agi | hrw: thanks, /me searches for that |
| 16:00.17 | TTilus | Stskeeps, X-Fade: still there? |
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| 16:00.41 | TTilus | Stskeeps, X-Fade: how do i tell if theres heavy io or swapping going on? |
| 16:00.54 | tybollt | TTilus: get the desktop load widget |
| 16:01.04 | TTilus | tybollt: i have |
| 16:01.05 | X-Fade | TTilus: install loadapplet and see if memory usage is high. |
| 16:01.13 | TTilus | it doesnt show heavy load |
| 16:01.28 | tybollt | so there is no heavy load? |
| 16:01.30 | X-Fade | TTilus: 4 blocks in the right column is not ok. |
| 16:01.31 | tybollt | if you want to make sure |
| 16:01.32 | angasule | wjt, I'm just not finding the package you mention |
| 16:01.40 | tybollt | open a friggen xterm and use ps/top/ etc |
| 16:02.05 | wjt | angasule: oh... it's in extras-devel or -testing, not extras proper yet |
| 16:02.06 | wjt | i think |
| 16:02.12 | angasule | ah |
| 16:02.26 | TTilus | X-Fade: ive got one faint gray block in left and two white in right |
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| 16:02.41 | X-Fade | TTilus: That should be fine then. |
| 16:02.43 | angasule | so no msn other than pidgin? (which is unusable for me) |
| 16:02.43 | eijk | X-Fade, http://pastebin.com/d47772c25 |
| 16:02.51 | TTilus | X-Fade: but its not :) |
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| 16:04.31 | igagis | pupnik: just want to let you know that 'sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf' solved the problem for me |
| 16:04.31 | TTilus | any thoughts how to debug this (jerky effects and scroll) further? |
| 16:04.59 | X-Fade | TTilus: I think a question to maemo-developers is in order. |
| 16:05.15 | TTilus | mm, gonna go there... |
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| 16:05.37 | hrw | ARGHHH!$!@#$@!#$ |
| 16:05.53 | hrw | fscking expired token on tmo |
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| 16:06.26 | hrw | Your submission could not be processed because the token has expired. |
| 16:06.27 | hrw | Please reload the window. |
| 16:06.32 | hrw | I just reloaded... |
| 16:06.47 | MohammadAG | igagis, didn't i tell you to check it before... |
| 16:06.51 | hrw | fuck it |
| 16:06.53 | javispedro | and your message is gone! |
| 16:07.26 | igagis | MohammadAG: yes, I just was so stupid that copied the resolv.conf to targets/FREMANTE/etc :-) |
| 16:07.34 | eijk | X-Fade, also apt-get update (in scratchbox) fails because it gets non-gzip content. |
| 16:07.34 | angasule | thanks fornthye help guys, I'm off to lunch |
| 16:07.36 | MohammadAG | lol |
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| 16:07.50 | X-Fade | eijk: Yeah, your local mirror cached an error. |
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| 16:08.10 | eijk | X-Fade, ok, if it's fixed, I can wait :-) |
| 16:08.18 | teilzeitstudent | What kind of firewall is running on the maemo? basic iptables? Or none at all? :p |
| 16:08.33 | agi | is there a way to know if someone already packaged a certain kernel module? |
| 16:09.07 | X-Fade | eijk: Yeah, it is fixed. But now I need to ask for it to get flushed, will take a while as everybody is gone/going home atm ;) |
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| 16:10.05 | andre__ | teilzeitstudent: N900 you mean? I wonder what "the maemo" is... |
| 16:10.37 | teilzeitstudent | err.. yea, the n900. |
| 16:10.48 | teilzeitstudent | fremantle. |
| 16:11.01 | FIQ | uh |
| 16:12.02 | RST38h | Ahhhahahahahahaha |
| 16:12.18 | RST38h | can talk now *and* KOffice seems to be out |
| 16:12.38 | tybollt | rst =) |
| 16:12.46 | FIQ | i've heard that a N900 stock is delayed in swe..? |
| 16:12.46 | FIQ | i seems to be forced to wait to feb 10th anyway |
| 16:12.46 | FIQ | i don't like waiting to feb 10th |
| 16:13.19 | tybollt | uhm I'm in .se and I've got my device for what a month now :) |
| 16:13.44 | FIQ | yes, it was release a while ago |
| 16:14.06 | tybollt | granted I ordered via nokia online thingy |
| 16:14.08 | RST38h | libgsf missing, cannot install |
| 16:14.15 | FIQ | but it seems to be out of devices everywhere except the official shop atm that has got SO good reviews.. not |
| 16:14.23 | andre__ | FIQ: get money, go to different country, buy N900, go back to Sweden. RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| 16:14.34 | tybollt | FIQ: I had _no_ problems what-so-ever w/ the official shop |
| 16:14.53 | eijk | X-Fade, what rough timeframe will the flush take? |
| 16:14.54 | teilzeitstudent | andre__, connecting via ssh works on another port, the command iptables is unknown..so I'm guessing no firewall at all? |
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| 16:15.24 | tybollt | RST38h: s/koffice/freeoffice/ but ye :P |
| 16:15.37 | FIQ | Tybollt: ok, i will check it soon. |
| 16:15.41 | RST38h | Ah, freoffice needs libgsf but it can only be found in extras-devel |
| 16:15.52 | RST38h | X-Fade: Looks like something has not got promoted automatically |
| 16:15.57 | andre__ | people asking me in private why this channel is +R. |
| 16:16.07 | RST38h | andre: No shit Sherlock |
| 16:16.11 | ivan4th | would anyone please tell me a working IP address for repostory.maemo.org to put in /etc/hosts ? |
| 16:16.14 | X-Fade | andre__: people == timeless? :) |
| 16:16.31 | tybollt | guessing it is due to the spambot the other day |
| 16:16.33 | andre__ | harhar, no... frals. |
| 16:16.38 | andre__ | errr oops |
| 16:16.47 | andre__ | fatal^ I meant. |
| 16:16.50 | RST38h | oh wait they are both in devel which is down |
| 16:16.53 | X-Fade | RST38h: koffice is only in -devel? |
| 16:17.07 | tybollt | ? |
| 16:17.10 | javispedro | devel is down again? |
| 16:17.11 | RST38h | yea |
| 16:17.14 | tybollt | freeoffice just installed fine here |
| 16:17.17 | RST38h | yea x2 |
| 16:17.18 | tybollt | no problems |
| 16:17.29 | tybollt | RST38h: can't verify that? |
| 16:18.22 | RST38h | BTW, apt-get package lists are starting to really hurt / free space |
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| 16:18.38 | RST38h | Are there any plans to move them to /opt? |
| 16:18.51 | slonopotamus | does n900 support CSD? |
| 16:19.40 | javispedro | I guess removing older package versions would help |
| 16:19.59 | javispedro | since having them grow too much hinders h-a-m performance |
| 16:20.19 | X-Fade | Yeah, should be done soon(ish) |
| 16:20.19 | kamui | RST38h, I relinked my apt cache |
| 16:20.21 | RST38h | javispedro: But I think this is being done every now and then |
| 16:20.24 | kamui | solves that problem |
| 16:20.37 | kamui | because that was really annoying |
| 16:20.37 | RST38h | How safe is it though in the case of an update? |
| 16:20.46 | kamui | I was able to do the 1.1 update fine |
| 16:20.55 | kamui | I ended up reflashing anyway because of hte battery life, but it wasn't an issue |
| 16:21.05 | RST38h | hmm, no cannot refresh -devel and -testing |
| 16:21.07 | kamui | I just relinked /var/cache/apt or whatever that folder is |
| 16:21.14 | RST38h | yea |
| 16:21.16 | kamui | where all the downloads go first |
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| 16:21.49 | RST38h | ---> home |
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| 16:22.13 | MohammadAG | did that too |
| 16:22.25 | MohammadAG | and i'm at 89% root |
| 16:22.27 | bfree | anyone know about new accounts on maemo.org? I created one ~18h ago, it's logged in on the garage but I can't login to the main site yet (for brainstorm) |
| 16:23.05 | X-Fade | bfree: We're working on account sync. Will take a while still. |
| 16:23.36 | bfree | X-Fade: ok, thanks (was wondering if I might have managed to typo my password somehow) |
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| 16:24.47 | bfree | I want my N900 right-handed damnit ;-) |
| 16:25.23 | adalal | what did you mean? |
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| 16:26.04 | GeneralAntilles | To the unregistered or unidentified users in the room. It's simpler if you just register with NickServ or identify yourself than bothering me about it. Thanks. |
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| 16:26.44 | bfree | adalal: me? the pop-up menus when you hold on something should try to appear left of press not right of it (so you can see it), though with a config option for the lefties to get current behaviour |
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| 16:27.36 | adalal | hm |
| 16:28.59 | andre__ | GeneralAntilles, so what's the reasoning for +R? |
| 16:29.05 | GeneralAntilles | andre__, botspam. |
| 16:29.12 | andre__ | ah, okay |
| 16:29.14 | javispedro | GeneralAntilles: lol. thought the silence is nice >:) |
| 16:29.18 | GeneralAntilles | andre__, we had a round of GNAA spam at about 0745 UTC. |
| 16:29.32 | javispedro | s/thought/though |
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| 16:31.44 | andre__ | I see |
| 16:33.30 | javispedro | infobot: ping |
| 16:33.31 | infobot | ~pong |
| 16:33.47 | javispedro | well, at least infobot is R. |
| 16:33.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | bfree: exactly what I thought when clearing my mail a few minutes ago |
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| 16:34.56 | tybollt | what-the-hell |
| 16:35.06 | bfree | well anyone can feel free to brainstorm it seeing as though I'm still awaiting the account sync :-p it may even be bug worthy ;-) |
| 16:35.10 | tybollt | 7,4MB for a battery widget? :) |
| 16:35.13 | DocScrutinizer51 | andre__: and +R is what [<christel>] suggests |
| 16:35.16 | tybollt | that's... insane :) |
| 16:36.44 | andre__ | okay. Christel is always right :) |
| 16:38.50 | alterego | Oh dear, people pasting their IMEI numbers on the internet again .. |
| 16:39.19 | SpeedEvil | It's OK as long as you post the CC number in the same message. |
| 16:39.32 | alterego | Heh |
| 16:39.33 | goodwill | Pit: ya figure it out? |
| 16:39.52 | alterego | Is the UK version of the Nokia image the "Global" release? |
| 16:40.06 | alterego | Or is it still stuck on 41? |
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| 16:47.40 | ilovefish | sweet! http://img263.yfrog.com/img263/418/screenshot2010011917363.png |
| 16:48.05 | plastun | hi! where I can find maemo-specific fields of debian/control file, such as XB-Memo-Icon? |
| 16:48.20 | javispedro | ilovefish: |
| 16:48.24 | javispedro | http://depot.javispedro.com/er.png |
| 16:48.57 | _berto_ | plastun: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=xb-maemo-icon :) |
| 16:49.05 | _berto_ | plastun: first entry |
| 16:49.09 | _berto_ | :) |
| 16:49.40 | plastun | _berto_, but this page contains only this field and no more |
| 16:49.42 | ilovefish | javispedro, now that a nice pattern there! |
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| 16:49.57 | _berto_ | plastun: there's a couple of links there |
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| 16:50.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | javispedro: meh |
| 16:51.22 | javispedro | :) |
| 16:52.25 | DocScrutinizer51 | javispedro: told ya not to use that stiching pattern for a wallpaper |
| 16:53.02 | javispedro | ... because after using it for a while it corrupts the application manager? ;) |
| 16:53.34 | javispedro | actually I was toying with clutter when that started happening (and it fixed after reboot), so it's cheating |
| 16:53.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | appmgr can't decrypt payTV ;-) |
| 16:55.35 | t_s_o | crap, each time i read something related to maemo5, i wish nokia would make a non-phone device... |
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| 16:56.01 | javispedro | you can imagine how cool the blur effect was (basically a random new pattern each frame) |
| 16:56.07 | alterego | t_s_o: why? |
| 16:56.45 | t_s_o | alterego: never liked big expensive phones. they risk turning into big expensive bricks all to soon, given that its carried everywhere |
| 16:57.02 | alterego | Ah, okay |
| 16:57.10 | javispedro | well, I used to carry my PDA everywhere too. |
| 16:57.16 | t_s_o | a second device can be left at home or similar when not needed, while my more rugged featurephone can come along for those calls and messages |
| 16:57.20 | timeless | tries to talk |
| 16:57.39 | Stskeeps | success |
| 16:57.54 | timeless | how do i add other nicks there's some link command? |
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| 16:58.01 | t_s_o | also, my N800 have a battery life of hours, while my phone can sit for days as i do not play with it all the time ;) |
| 17:00.09 | DocScrutinizer51 | timeless: GROUP |
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| 17:00.20 | GeneralAntilles | timeless, /msg nickserv identify timeless <password> from your other nicks. |
| 17:00.25 | GeneralAntilles | then /msg nickserv group |
| 17:04.06 | timeless | gan900: can you give 'timeless' the maemo cloak? |
| 17:05.16 | GeneralAntilles | timeless, sure. |
| 17:05.19 | timeless | frowns |
| 17:05.26 | GeneralAntilles | timeless, just want /community/contributor/ or something more? |
| 17:06.00 | timeless | i'm pretty sure i don't know/care :) |
| 17:06.03 | timeless | so why not? |
| 17:06.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | timeless: just group it to timeless_mbpÄ |
| 17:06.12 | DocScrutinizer51 | ? |
| 17:06.25 | AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, Ping |
| 17:06.34 | zaheerm | .. |
| 17:06.37 | plastun | how to add new application to bugs.maemo.org? |
| 17:07.07 | GeneralAntilles | timeless, well, the other option is to indicate Nokia affiliation. So I'd assume conributor would be preferred. ;) |
| 17:07.17 | timeless | plastun: file a bug in bugs.maemo.org asking for it |
| 17:07.28 | timeless | there's even a wiki w/ instructions |
| 17:07.32 | timeless | gan: . |
| 17:07.35 | GeneralAntilles | http://wiki.maemo.org/Bugs:Adding_Extra_products |
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| 17:07.45 | timeless | ok, so um |
| 17:07.52 | timeless | now i can't change my nick |
| 17:07.57 | plastun | thanks! |
| 17:08.15 | *** part/#maemo timely (n=timeless@192.100.124.156) |
| 17:08.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | timeless: you can change to grouped nicks only |
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| 17:08.40 | GeneralAntilles | timeless, it's the spambot-fighting +R |
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| 17:09.40 | javispedro | the spambot is still around? |
| 17:09.46 | timeless | how do i tell colloquy about ident? |
| 17:10.19 | GeneralAntilles | timeless, should be a setting for the NickServ password in the server settings. |
| 17:10.23 | DocScrutinizer51 | timeless: most easy procedure: identify with a known nick; change to new nick; /ns group |
| 17:10.24 | GeneralAntilles | cmd-1 or something brings it up |
| 17:10.28 | GeneralAntilles | switched to Adium. |
| 17:11.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | timeless: I guess you can't du that while you joined +R channels though |
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| 17:11.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | do* |
| 17:11.29 | Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: pong |
| 17:12.15 | AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, any idea why a theme made with Upper Case Folder name is not optified? |
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| 17:13.13 | Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: give me an example package please |
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| 17:13.25 | AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, Maemo-org |
| 17:13.47 | AndrewFBlack | was optifed chnged folder name to Maemo-org from maemo-org and now its now |
| 17:13.49 | AndrewFBlack | not |
| 17:14.00 | Stskeeps | 1.2-6? |
| 17:14.09 | AndrewFBlack | yeah |
| 17:14.15 | fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: Why not use lowercase folder name? |
| 17:14.32 | DocScrutinizer51 | maemo6 ?? :-P |
| 17:14.32 | Stskeeps | fiferboy: cos name of theme is maemo.org |
| 17:15.03 | AndrewFBlack | fiferboy, problems with hilights and relationsip between folder name and theme name |
| 17:15.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | Maemo-org is a.... strange package name anyway |
| 17:15.21 | AndrewFBlack | Iḿ going to be forced to make theme name Maemo.org I guess |
| 17:15.25 | fiferboy | Stskeeps, AndrewFBlack: Then make folder name lower case and gtk-theme-name uppercase |
| 17:15.49 | fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: You can make the theme name whatever you want with no impact on the folder name |
| 17:16.34 | DocScrutinizer51 | so I suggest to call the package 'theme_ maemo-org' |
| 17:16.35 | fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: You just need to adjust the XB-Maemo-Display-Name in the control file, and the name inside index.theme |
| 17:16.35 | Stskeeps | fiferboy: it's a little more complex than that in the template so :P |
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| 17:16.48 | Stskeeps | fiferboy: we can't edit -layout-5 easily so |
| 17:16.53 | Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: anyway |
| 17:16.59 | Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: 1.2-6 is optified |
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| 17:17.26 | AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, ok someone said something on Testing pag for it about not being optified |
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| 17:17.48 | Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: it is, it is actually optified but the heuristics keep some things on rootfs |
| 17:18.08 | Stskeeps | http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/listing.txt |
| 17:18.12 | agi | I've got a problem trying to install scratchbox: |
| 17:18.14 | agi | E: Host kernel module binfmt_misc is required for the CPU transparency feature. |
| 17:18.18 | agi | agi@var:~$ lsmod | grep bin |
| 17:18.18 | agi | binfmt_misc 6860 0 |
| 17:18.23 | agi | but: |
| 17:18.28 | agi | agi@var:~$ ls /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc |
| 17:18.28 | agi | ls: cannot access /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc: No such file or directory |
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| 17:18.38 | fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: If you just look in /opt/themes it is not there, but it is in /opt/maemo/usr/share/themes |
| 17:18.47 | agi | module exists, but the dir the script is looking for does not |
| 17:18.53 | agi | (2.6.31) |
| 17:18.55 | Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: we don't optify in same way as theme maker does it so |
| 17:19.05 | fiferboy | Stskeeps: What is the highlighting fix using the theme layout template? |
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| 17:19.33 | AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, ok just checking because it something was said about it. |
| 17:19.55 | Stskeeps | AndrewFBlack: yeah and tell them that it is optified, they can check for themselves. maemo-optify does some heuristics so |
| 17:20.16 | Stskeeps | fiferboy: if theme name (the visible one) is lowercase, directory name is uppercase, and reverse. |
| 17:20.28 | Stskeeps | directory name is invisible, so |
| 17:20.41 | fiferboy | Stskeeps: Gotcha |
| 17:20.52 | fiferboy | Stskeeps: Does the theme tool also handle the packaging? |
| 17:21.11 | Stskeeps | fiferboy: try_it_out.sh modifies the packaging yeah |
| 17:21.46 | fiferboy | Stskeeps: But it doesn't use the theme thumbnail to generate a XB-Maemo-Icon in control. I guess that is up to the user afterwards? |
| 17:22.10 | Stskeeps | fiferboy: we can make the source code do so if we want |
| 17:22.15 | AndrewFBlack | Stskeeps, any idea how I can add the calendar icon in theme package |
| 17:22.19 | Stskeeps | fiferboy: i just didn't get a patch for it or make it one |
| 17:22.29 | Stskeeps | fiferboy: the idea is to extend it to support icon replacements etc |
| 17:22.30 | Stskeeps | as well |
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| 17:23.03 | Stskeeps | fiferboy: so if someone gives me a good idea how to do it sanely, or send me a patch, i'm all ears :) |
| 17:23.37 | fiferboy | Stskeeps: I'll see if I have some free time |
| 17:24.08 | fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: I tried creating a /usr/share/icons/Maemo-org dir, point gtkrc to it and populating it with an alternate calendar_applet png |
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| 17:24.31 | fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: Didn't work. Either I did something wrong, or calendar applet is hardcoded to look in a specific directory for an icon |
| 17:25.18 | Caesium | agi: perhaps you can mount it? |
| 17:25.23 | AndrewFBlack | fiferboy, wonder who we can ask if its hardcoded |
| 17:25.32 | Caesium | agi: "mount binfmt_misc -t binfmt_misc /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc" or similar? |
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| 17:25.59 | agi | Caesium: I tried, but failed: |
| 17:26.08 | fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: Good question |
| 17:26.08 | agi | root@var:~# mount -t binfmt_misc none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc |
| 17:26.08 | agi | mount: mount point /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc does not exist |
| 17:26.16 | agi | root@var:~# mkdir /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc |
| 17:26.18 | agi | mkdir: cannot create directory `/proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc': No such file or directory |
| 17:26.30 | fiferboy | AndrewFBlack: Changing the icon in the /usr/share/icons/hicolor directory works |
| 17:26.41 | Caesium | agi: no /proc at all? |
| 17:26.42 | agi | /proc/sys/fs/ does exist |
| 17:26.46 | Caesium | ah, um.. :) |
| 17:26.59 | agi | I can mount binfmt_misc in /mnt i.e. |
| 17:27.16 | agi | but that's not what the install script is looking for |
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| 17:29.49 | andre__ | anybody having an idea where it's defined (codewise, not specs) that .desktop files go into /usr/share/applications/hildon/ in Maemo5? |
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| 17:40.47 | eijk | X-Fade, any news about the flush? I still get the error page... |
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| 17:44.57 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:45.18 | hrw | I starts to like people like Nathan Anderson due to his mail to maemo-devel |
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| 17:50.49 | woglinde | re |
| 17:50.59 | woglinde | still attacks? |
| 17:50.59 | slonopotamus | ... |
| 17:51.41 | slonopotamus | woglinde, now it's perfectly protected and silent here :D |
| 17:51.51 | woglinde | yeah its nice |
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| 17:52.32 | woglinde | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.39 | Arkenoi | the drawback of slow bundled updates is that we unlikely to expect icq to work again soon. maybe that's not bad at all, though ;-) |
| 17:53.01 | woglinde | hm wonder who needs icq |
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| 17:53.15 | woglinde | xmpp and irc is enough |
| 17:53.16 | hrw | Arkenoi: icq is by community |
| 17:53.17 | derf | People who started using the internet in 1997. |
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| 17:53.50 | woglinde | derf I started 96 and used irc |
| 17:54.14 | Stskeeps | icq was the way to keep in touch with girls you met on irc |
| 17:54.15 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 17:54.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | I fail to see how +R may cause silence - while number of users is almost same |
| 17:54.18 | hrw | woglinde: I started 1997, used irc. in 98/99 I connected my Amiga to internet. used irc and icq |
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| 17:54.33 | Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer51: it bans non-reg users to talk |
| 17:54.51 | hrw | woglinde: icq was first popular IM client |
| 17:55.03 | woglinde | hrw it was hype |
| 17:55.09 | woglinde | and dont believe in hypes |
| 17:55.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | Oh so +R doesn,t block join, it rather simply 'devoices'? |
| 17:55.44 | hrw | woglinde: it was nice way to catch friends from other dormitories |
| 17:55.56 | woglinde | and server was controlled by yahoo right? |
| 17:56.16 | hrw | woglinde: so? |
| 17:56.25 | hrw | woglinde: irc servers were also controlled by someone |
| 17:56.34 | woglinde | dont like yahoo till today |
| 17:56.36 | Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer51: might do both |
| 17:56.36 | woglinde | *g* |
| 17:56.36 | hrw | woglinde: you trusted ircops? |
| 17:56.39 | Arkenoi | I started in 1994 (and email was almost 5 years earlier) |
| 17:56.48 | hrw | Arkenoi: you are older then |
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| 17:56.52 | woglinde | hrw more than yahoo |
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| 17:57.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | please anybody who's not registered and thus van't post: please speak up now X-P |
| 17:58.09 | gevaerts | spamming problems? |
| 17:58.15 | Arkenoi | that's funny there are people who show off with "short" icq numbers trying to say "people, look, i had internet in 1996/7!". Actually using icq in that years was considered incredibly lame, as the client was windows-only and using windows was mauvais ton |
| 17:58.29 | javispedro | I can't post |
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| 17:58.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | javispedro: too bad ;-P |
| 17:58.50 | woglinde | Arkenoi ms-comic-chat |
| 17:58.52 | woglinde | haha |
| 17:59.00 | javispedro | goes find ms-comic-chat |
| 17:59.02 | woglinde | was fun on irc |
| 17:59.04 | Cas07 | lol ICQ that takes me back |
| 17:59.06 | Stskeeps | Arkenoi: icq got so bloated |
| 17:59.07 | Arkenoi | hrw: i even seen the great efnet/ircnet split by my own eyes! |
| 17:59.27 | Arkenoi | is old fart |
| 17:59.33 | hrw | Arkenoi: ;) |
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| 18:00.56 | javispedro | ~curse endianness |
| 18:00.57 | infobot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, endianness ! |
| 18:00.57 | woglinde | okay |
| 18:01.00 | woglinde | dinnertime |
| 18:01.05 | woglinde | still later |
| 18:01.16 | woglinde | javispedro wine on n900 and ms-comic-chat? |
| 18:01.17 | woglinde | hahahaha |
| 18:01.23 | penguinbait | its better than vista |
| 18:01.23 | Hukka | woglinde: I just had dinner. That does not prevent chatting :) |
| 18:01.25 | woglinde | or wine with win95 |
| 18:01.30 | penguinbait | or even coming back as OS2 |
| 18:01.36 | woglinde | hukka I have a 3 year child |
| 18:01.47 | woglinde | even when he can use the browser |
| 18:01.57 | woglinde | we still not eating at computers |
| 18:02.00 | woglinde | till later |
| 18:02.12 | javispedro | it's not fun at all when you try to glue together 3 libs: one which tries to be host-endianness independent, another one which follows host-endianness, and some other one where some functions are endianness dependent and some are not. |
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| 18:02.28 | Hukka | woglinde: You need one of those plastic, deforming keyboards. I'm sure they are anything-proof |
| 18:02.31 | ivan4th | javispedro: accidental ARM endianness switch is even better than this. |
| 18:02.41 | woglinde | Hukka its more space |
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| 18:02.46 | woglinde | so now |
| 18:02.49 | Hukka | woglinde: Go, man, go :) |
| 18:02.50 | nedko | wao: GPG error: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2 |
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| 18:02.56 | Hukka | woglinde: Your child is hungry! |
| 18:03.31 | nedko | wao=W |
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| 18:05.23 | DocScrutinizer51 | signatute 'NODATA1'? not a surprise |
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| 18:06.07 | nedko | i get htmls for Packages.gz for some repos |
| 18:06.17 | nedko | Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/fremantle/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) |
| 18:06.19 | nedko | for example |
| 18:07.28 | hrw | nedko: thats maemo way of moving servers |
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| 18:07.53 | hrw | they say |
| 18:08.10 | nedko | hrw: where it is announced/confirmed? |
| 18:08.12 | gevaerts | tries to get a workaround working |
| 18:08.43 | hrw | nedko: officially they finished that part iirc |
| 18:09.02 | hrw | http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/maemork/ is the only official way to get infos |
| 18:09.39 | nedko | hrw: i guess i'll have to get account there too (i have twitter and identi.ca) :] |
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| 18:11.42 | DocScrutinizer51 | tzz. AppMgr throws error on update of each repo: 'gzip returned error (1)' |
| 18:12.25 | slonopotamus | ~ping |
| 18:12.26 | infobot | ~pong |
| 18:12.47 | agi | 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss |
| 18:12.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | anybody else seeing this, or is my gzip going rotten? |
| 18:13.30 | slonopotamus | agi, :P |
| 18:13.43 | nedko | DocScrutinizer: yes, i see it too |
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| 18:15.41 | RST38h | Is Extras-Devel working for someone? |
| 18:17.06 | Arkenoi | abiword non-functional still? |
| 18:17.15 | pH5 | RST38h: haha, not really |
| 18:17.16 | pH5 | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz |
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| 18:17.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | gzip returns 1 |
| 18:18.01 | RST38h | oh |
| 18:18.15 | RST38h | Arkenoi: It is functional but not feature complete it seems |
| 18:18.17 | javispedro | lol. |
| 18:18.39 | tybollt | so are y'all going to watch the olympics in your n900s? =) |
| 18:18.44 | javispedro | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz interesting :) |
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| 18:19.00 | javispedro | and explains why gzip returns -1 :) |
| 18:19.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | it does? |
| 18:19.35 | javispedro | well, it's text/html, not application/x-gzip |
| 18:19.36 | Arkenoi | RST38h, will try it now. last time i tried it did not even start |
| 18:19.38 | nedko | yes |
| 18:19.42 | nedko | it is a html |
| 18:19.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | ooh ok |
| 18:19.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | muhaha |
| 18:20.14 | RST38h | Arkenoi: starts well now |
| 18:20.15 | ivan4th | Missing right curly or square bracket at /var/www/dhandler line 110 (in Packages.gz :) |
| 18:20.30 | javispedro | I guess someone switched perl versions |
| 18:20.51 | DocScrutinizer51 | X-Fade: ?? |
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| 18:21.26 | nedko | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.27 | nedko | syntax error at /var/www/dhandler line 95, near "!==" |
| 18:21.28 | X-Fade | Working on it, the origin is ok. |
| 18:21.32 | inz | javis, you mean text/plain (although it _is_ served as application/x-gzip |
| 18:21.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | X-Fade: k. thanks :) |
| 18:21.53 | nedko | text/html is served as application/x-gzip? :) |
| 18:21.53 | Stskeeps | javispedro: .gz works for me |
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| 18:22.22 | javispedro | Stskeeps: dunno, tbh I am testing from a browser (not apt useragent) |
| 18:22.30 | Arkenoi | rst38h: btw how do i type ^ on cyrillic keyboard? it is not in sym menu nor it is on the physical keyboard. using virtual one to type just one character is kinda stupid. |
| 18:22.32 | Stskeeps | javispedro: same |
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| 18:22.44 | Stskeeps | not saying it's not a bug but :) |
| 18:22.54 | javispedro | clears pdnsd cache |
| 18:22.55 | nedko | Arkenoi: there are no cyrillic keyboards. there are bulgarian, russian, etc |
| 18:22.57 | RST38h | Arkenoi: How do I know? :) |
| 18:23.12 | RST38h | There is no Bulgarian keyboard on N900 |
| 18:23.29 | nedko | RST38h: there is, i use it |
| 18:23.31 | RST38h | He means Russian. If you are Bulgarian, will just have to live with a few extra letters :) |
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| 18:23.42 | RST38h | nedko: Oh but he means physical keyboard |
| 18:23.55 | RST38h | nedko: Of course BG layout exists |
| 18:24.15 | nedko | RST38h: there are several BG layouts |
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| 18:24.39 | nedko | RST38h: the phonetic one is most usable but i havent yet managed to make it work with the hardware keyboard |
| 18:24.43 | RST38h | nedko: btw what physical device do you get in .BG? |
| 18:24.54 | RST38h | nedko: easy to d ;) |
| 18:24.57 | RST38h | do |
| 18:24.58 | nedko | RST38h: you mean the keyboard? |
| 18:25.49 | nedko | it is a n900... |
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| 18:26.47 | hrw | off |
| 18:26.48 | RST38h | nedko: Yes, I mean the keyboard. Have you got all 4 arrows? |
| 18:27.08 | nedko | RST38h: yes |
| 18:27.16 | El_Angelo | what is up with the repo now??? |
| 18:27.17 | nedko | RST38h: and english letters |
| 18:27.38 | X-Fade | Will take around 10 minutes for it to flush still. |
| 18:27.38 | RST38h | cool, euro-1 then |
| 18:27.52 | RST38h | nedko: go to xterm and type gconftool --get /apps/osso/inputmethod/int_kb_layout |
| 18:28.08 | nedko | RST38h: i guess it will work through ssh too, right? |
| 18:28.12 | RST38h | yea |
| 18:28.24 | nedko | RST38h: "us" |
| 18:28.44 | RST38h | good |
| 18:28.59 | GeneralAntilles | lol, the 5800 v40 firmware might actually make it somewhat bearable. |
| 18:29.04 | RST38h | nedko: No type gconftool --set /apps/osso/inputmethod/int_kb_layout --type string ru |
| 18:29.06 | GeneralAntilles | Too bad it'll never come out for NAM |
| 18:29.09 | RST38h | s/No/Now |
| 18:29.14 | GeneralAntilles | and it's about 8 months too late. |
| 18:29.22 | RST38h | General: Stop teasing, we have not got v40 yet =) |
| 18:29.32 | nedko | RST38h: and layout switching will work? |
| 18:29.51 | RST38h | nedko: It will switch to ru layout (just like if you had a physical russian keyboard) |
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| 18:30.08 | RST38h | nedko: To go back to us, set that key to "us" instead of "ru" |
| 18:30.54 | hrw|gone | Stskeeps: grats for mer team on n900 support! |
| 18:30.54 | RST38h | nedko: You can also modify the ru layout to be more comfortable (I guess you will need that hard sign in some more accessible spot) |
| 18:31.02 | frals | GeneralAntilles: same for .SE version of the firmware for 5800, for some reason it differs from the finnish... |
| 18:31.46 | RST38h | nedko: (it is safe to switch, do not worry it will break our device) |
| 18:31.52 | nedko | RST38h: i'll have to heaviliy modify it. thanks for the tips |
| 18:32.01 | Stskeeps | hrw|gone: ta - had it for a while but first now we had it in semi usable for |
| 18:32.02 | Stskeeps | m |
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| 18:32.13 | RST38h | nedko: Unfortunately, layout names are hardcoded so no way to add "bg" one afaik |
| 18:32.34 | nedko | RST38h: there is always a way :) |
| 18:32.44 | pronto | wow, i've never seen repos go down this often :| |
| 18:32.49 | RST38h | nedko: In PR1.2, hopefully |
| 18:33.08 | lardman|home | they;re not down again are they? |
| 18:33.13 | nedko | RST38h: cant i hack the maemo itself? |
| 18:33.20 | X-Fade | No, just caching the wrong thing. |
| 18:33.26 | RST38h | nedko: Because this switch should realy happen on Ctrl+Space and it does not |
| 18:33.27 | X-Fade | Or caching an erorr. |
| 18:33.31 | lardman|home | ah ok |
| 18:33.35 | X-Fade | But should be gone within 10 minutes. |
| 18:33.39 | RST38h | nedko: You can, but I am not sure you want to hack HIM |
| 18:33.51 | lardman|home | X-Fade: did you get a change to look at that upload permission request? |
| 18:33.53 | RST38h | kinda fruitless, better wait for it to be fixed |
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| 18:34.09 | lardman|home | X-Fade: and happy new year, etc. as I don;t think I've really spoken to you since then :) |
| 18:34.22 | nedko | RST38h: it is acceptable if you have clear ETA |
| 18:34.33 | X-Fade | lardman|home: No, still working on the sync. But it will happen today. |
| 18:34.42 | lardman|home | ok cool, thanks |
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| 18:35.36 | Mousey | Piro? |
| 18:37.41 | GeneralAntilles | Hoo boy, Engadget N900 review is up. |
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| 18:39.15 | javispedro | ohmy. |
| 18:39.19 | javispedro | mustsee. |
| 18:39.21 | nedko | how to get MMPC to work on n900, despite the description on the site, it is not in the repos |
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| 18:40.58 | RST38h | nedko: no clear eta :( |
| 18:41.42 | nedko | RST38h: thus the motivation to fix things myself. and the motivation to get maemo |
| 18:41.45 | nedko | phone |
| 18:41.56 | lardman|home | ~mmpc |
| 18:42.40 | RST38h | nedko: there is a bug for it, with comments from people who tried |
| 18:42.45 | Stskeeps | X-Fade: saw the report on .gz's containing error messages from a script? |
| 18:42.46 | nedko | lardman|home: how to get it? |
| 18:42.55 | lardman|home | nedko: what is it? |
| 18:42.55 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: Yes, working on it. |
| 18:43.07 | nedko | RST38h: i saw forum thread with replies about using the soft kbd. |
| 18:43.22 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: gz files are fine for me now. pgp files are still waiting for a flush. |
| 18:43.31 | nedko | lardman|home: mpd client. mpd is a music player daemon |
| 18:43.34 | RST38h | soft kbd is a different can of worms |
| 18:43.52 | nedko | RST38h: it works in bg phonetic ;) |
| 18:43.58 | Stskeeps | X-Fade: alright |
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| 18:44.42 | Cas07 | GeneralAntilles: just in the middle of reading that review |
| 18:44.55 | lardman|home | nedko: ah I see; no clue, sorry |
| 18:45.03 | GeneralAntilles | They managed not to be completely heinous in their resistive bashing, at leaste. |
| 18:45.31 | RST38h | nedko: it is generally easier to modify |
| 18:46.00 | javispedro | well, they're already saying that the phone app has no "automatic orientation switch" |
| 18:46.17 | RST38h | nedko: Things start getting hairy when you are trying to make physical work. You are at least lucky to have more or less the same JCUKENG as standard. Imagine greek guys having to modify ru layout to fit their needs... |
| 18:46.18 | nedko | lardman|home: http://my-maemo.com/software/applications.php?name=MMPC&fldAuto=955&faq=34 |
| 18:46.41 | lardman|home | I meant I don't know where you can get it |
| 18:46.48 | nedko | RST38h: JCUKENG? |
| 18:47.29 | nedko | lardman|home: the page says: Download:Extras, Extras-Testing or Extras-Devel |
| 18:47.30 | javispedro | and they only searched for apps in the ovi store; not in maemo.org |
| 18:47.38 | RST38h | checks the Internet |
| 18:47.40 | javispedro | which doesn't make sense especially considering the keyword is "IRC" |
| 18:47.42 | nedko | lardman|home: but it is not in testing nor in extras |
| 18:47.44 | Cas07 | GeneralAntilles: Not exacting praising the resistive screen |
| 18:47.57 | slonopotamus | lol :) |
| 18:48.01 | slonopotamus | jcukeng :) |
| 18:48.16 | RST38h | nedko: Oh. Holy fuck. I did not know. |
| 18:48.20 | lardman|home | nedko: mymaemo is not official, bug the page owners |
| 18:48.28 | RST38h | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Bulgarian_BDS_layout.svg |
| 18:48.44 | nedko | RST38h: but waht is JCUKENG as standard? |
| 18:49.01 | nedko | RST38h: the svg is for the BDS layout |
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| 18:49.07 | nedko | RST38h: i use the phonetic one |
| 18:49.13 | RST38h | nedko: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/KB_Russian.svg |
| 18:49.21 | RST38h | nedko: This is the one used throughout CIS |
| 18:49.34 | RST38h | nedko: Has been around since XIX century |
| 18:49.46 | nedko | RST38h: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bulgarian_Phonetic_layout.svg |
| 18:50.21 | nedko | RST38h: bulgaria is not in CIS |
| 18:50.24 | RST38h | nedko: Yea, the phonetic one looks about the same for either language, but using it breeds bad habits |
| 18:50.44 | RST38h | nedko: Yea, but I have been stupidly assuming that it uses the same kbd layout as .RU, given how old the layout is |
| 18:50.52 | RST38h | nedko: *wrong*. |
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| 18:51.09 | nedko | RST38h: keep in mind that cyrillic was invented in bulgaria ;) |
| 18:51.19 | nedko | RST38h: we are older :P |
| 18:51.29 | RST38h | nedko: True =) |
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| 18:52.00 | javispedro | I love how people say "still not optimized for the N900's X" |
| 18:52.05 | javispedro | where X = CPU, GPU |
| 18:52.14 | RST38h | Aha, BDS has been actually optimized for efficient typing |
| 18:52.32 | RST38h | JCUKENG has been "optimized" to keep typewriters from stalling =) |
| 18:53.02 | RST38h | javispedro: lemme guess...another "emulator lover"? |
| 18:53.08 | nedko | RST38h: so JCUKENG is the russian (CIS) kbd layout? |
| 18:53.10 | javispedro | RST38h: of course. |
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| 18:54.03 | nedko | AHA! mmpc is in extras-devel only |
| 18:55.49 | Corsac | maemo media player client? |
| 18:56.07 | Arkenoi | RST38h, well, it works and it seems to be not bad. though toc is not recognized in word documents, it imports odt pretty good. |
| 18:56.14 | nedko | Corsac: a client for mpd |
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| 18:56.50 | nedko | installed it by manual download and dpkg -i |
| 18:56.55 | Corsac | nedko: i was just asking for acronym signification, I do know mpd :) |
| 18:57.00 | RST38h | nedko: generic cyrillic layout for russian and any former USSR languages based on cyrillics |
| 18:57.45 | RST38h | javispedro: Suggest him he uses is expoertise in architectural optimization to optimize, the sources are in the open |
| 18:57.53 | RST38h | (if it is the SNES emulator) |
| 18:57.58 | nedko | RST38h: my arrow keys stopped working, they write letters now :( |
| 18:58.15 | RST38h | nedko: that is correct |
| 18:58.24 | nedko | RST38h: i want them back! |
| 18:58.33 | RST38h | nedko: set key back to us |
| 18:58.35 | RST38h | a moment |
| 18:58.42 | javispedro | RST38h: it's not, though I've heard that one too. |
| 18:59.05 | nedko | RST38h: right, it was at "bg", sorry |
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| 18:59.46 | slonopotamus | woah, koffice for maemo |
| 19:00.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | X-Fade: appmanager back to normal here |
| 19:00.31 | RST38h | nedko: http://milliways.chance.ru/~ark/images/N900keybru.jpg |
| 19:00.42 | slonopotamus | is it optified? :P |
| 19:01.27 | nedko | RST38h: ies it was cyrrilic B |
| 19:01.39 | Cas07 | GeneralAntilles: was there any mention of the app manger and extras? |
| 19:01.40 | X-Fade | DocScrutinizer51: Good. |
| 19:01.45 | nedko | RST38h: i fixed it by setting gconf to "us" |
| 19:01.54 | RST38h | nedko: yea |
| 19:02.07 | RST38h | nedko: unfortunately, they killed two arrows in the ru layout |
| 19:02.40 | Arkenoi | koffice? where? |
| 19:02.54 | tybollt | seems it is just a viewer |
| 19:02.55 | tybollt | still |
| 19:03.05 | slonopotamus | Arkenoi, extras-devel |
| 19:03.06 | DocScrutinizer51 | RST38h: not only ru. de as well :-( |
| 19:03.16 | Arkenoi | will try now |
| 19:03.21 | nedko | is controlling mpd through n900 o/ |
| 19:03.27 | tybollt | Arkenoi: app man -> office -> freeoffice case you've the extras-devel repo in there |
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| 19:03.31 | RST38h | Doc: And fi/se as well afaik |
| 19:03.39 | Arkenoi | abiword has major formatting glitches even with odt |
| 19:03.39 | slonopotamus | Arkenoi, at least post on maemo planet says so |
| 19:03.42 | javispedro | People are STILl asking to build palm. |
| 19:03.51 | javispedro | s/build/buy |
| 19:04.06 | tybollt | buy palm? |
| 19:04.10 | RST38h | javispedro: Why don't they buy themselves palm and shut up? =) |
| 19:04.11 | javispedro | , Inc. |
| 19:04.21 | Arkenoi | quite stange, i see evince and abiword but not freeoffice |
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| 19:04.43 | RST38h | frEoffice |
| 19:04.46 | RST38h | in Office |
| 19:05.13 | javispedro | openoffice, freeoffice, office open. |
| 19:05.35 | javispedro | next one should be named "beeroffice". I vote for gnome office to be renamed. |
| 19:06.25 | Arkenoi | ah. clicked "update" and now it is here |
| 19:06.28 | DocScrutinizer51 | beerware, meh |
| 19:06.42 | odin_ | my https://garage.maemo.org/ should work on the forums ? |
| 19:07.00 | odin_ | my https://garage.maemo.org/ _LOGIN_ should work on the forums ? |
| 19:07.14 | Cas07 | odin_: nope need another login |
| 19:07.15 | RST38h | GNU/Gnome Office ! |
| 19:07.50 | pwnguin | you'd think you could configure webapps to validate via ldap or something more central |
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| 19:08.56 | RST38h | why would you think so? |
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| 19:09.18 | pwnguin | RST38h: because i need hope =( |
| 19:09.21 | RST38h | (given how most web apps are made of some string, glue, and paper :)) |
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| 19:09.45 | odin_ | well you can in come environment (i.e. bolt in your authentication provider) |
| 19:09.54 | odin_ | s/come/some |
| 19:10.09 | nedko | forum registration redirects to garage registration |
| 19:10.22 | nedko | and thus i cannot register for forum posting too |
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| 19:11.50 | Cas07 | nedko: This is Talk registration:http://talk.maemo.org/register.php |
| 19:11.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | single-logon is on the todo list |
| 19:12.09 | X-Fade | Probably for next Sprint. |
| 19:13.02 | nedko | Cas07: thanks! |
| 19:13.59 | Arkenoi | koffice viewer is not bad, but it is just viewer and has problems with embedded images in .doc files as well. but it is way faster than abiword. but i am probably willing to pay $10 for dtg. |
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| 19:17.38 | RST38h | dtg is not perfect either |
| 19:18.16 | Arkenoi | yep |
| 19:18.29 | Arkenoi | fails with embedded vector graphics as usual |
| 19:18.31 | javispedro | dtg is absolutely multiplatform |
| 19:18.41 | javispedro | the same bugs it had on palmos. |
| 19:18.46 | Arkenoi | visio pictures are total mess |
| 19:18.49 | GeneralAntilles | Cas07, dunno, got interrupted, almost had to take my roommate to the hospital. |
| 19:19.28 | Cas07 | GeneralAntilles: what he do! |
| 19:19.33 | ivan4th | btw, Open Office is nearly usable under debian installed using debootstrap on ext2 partition (not an image file as in case of EasyDebian) |
| 19:19.36 | Arkenoi | OOo does not handle them perfectly, either, though it gives a much better try |
| 19:19.42 | pwnguin | 'nearly usable'? |
| 19:19.46 | GeneralAntilles | Cas07, overheated in the shower and collapsed unconscious in the hallway. . . . |
| 19:19.54 | Stskeeps | ah, nasty |
| 19:20.05 | Arkenoi | Ooo is sloooow |
| 19:20.09 | RST38h | The "nearly" thing is the main problem |
| 19:20.13 | ivan4th | pwnguin: takes a lot time to start up, but seems to be not that slow after that |
| 19:20.14 | Cas07 | GeneralAntilles: !! |
| 19:20.15 | RST38h | AbiWord should be fast |
| 19:20.21 | Mek | Arkenoi: there have already been massive improvements in all kinds of ms formats support in koffice since the version this current freoffice package is based on, and more to come |
| 19:20.22 | MohammadAG | is it me or are the reposities slow? |
| 19:20.24 | GeneralAntilles | Cas07, yeah, that was my reaction. ;) |
| 19:20.30 | Arkenoi | btw is there russian keyboard for easydebian? |
| 19:20.38 | RST38h | http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51arHpAwO7L._SL500_AA240_.jpg |
| 19:20.42 | Cas07 | GeneralAntilles: guess he ok now :) |
| 19:20.44 | Arkenoi | mek: so there is a hope for backport? |
| 19:20.50 | GeneralAntilles | Cas07, seems so. |
| 19:21.00 | slonopotamus | last time i tried koffice (2 months ago), it crashed on _all_ odf/doc files i had. |
| 19:21.02 | GeneralAntilles | Cas07, minus the bloodied nose, but. |
| 19:21.10 | ivan4th | RST38h: I just want to say that it's several times faster when it's not started from a loop device |
| 19:21.22 | ivan4th | I mean OOo |
| 19:21.24 | Cas07 | GeneralAntilles: oh i reread the article and they completely omitted to mention the app manger! |
| 19:21.26 | Mek | Arkenoi: yes, there will be newer versions before freoffice will be even considered to be pushed to extras(-testing) |
| 19:21.49 | GeneralAntilles | Cas07, yeah, I'm going to be writing them an email about some omissions and inaccuracies. |
| 19:21.59 | Cas07 | GeneralAntilles: ah sweet :D |
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| 19:23.47 | Arkenoi | mek: will there eventually be a full editor as well? |
| 19:24.47 | Mek | Arkenoi: I don't think there is one planned at the moment; but it is all opensource/developped in kde subversion, so others are free to contribute :) |
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| 19:27.27 | Cas07 | talk of office apps i installed Gnumeric accidentally on my N900 but found it works surprisingly well, any plans to offcially bring it Maemo 5 |
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| 19:28.32 | RST38h | Gnumeric should work fine except for the screen size |
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| 19:28.40 | RST38h | Too tiny |
| 19:28.45 | MohammadAG | anyone managed to dualboot debian using the new modifications for the bootloader? |
| 19:28.55 | Arkenoi | seems that dtg is way faster than anything |
| 19:29.13 | Arkenoi | i wonder why there is no editor |
| 19:29.16 | RST38h | well it has been optimized for slower cpus |
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| 19:29.20 | Arkenoi | there is for almost any other platform |
| 19:29.58 | tybollt | MohammadAG: what mods? do tell |
| 19:30.20 | MohammadAG | err, the bootloader was changed in 1.1 |
| 19:30.34 | tybollt | ok, is it modifyable? |
| 19:30.38 | MohammadAG | it looks for a .sh file if the keyboard is open |
| 19:31.40 | X-Fade | MohammadAG: Check the planet ;) |
| 19:31.45 | slonopotamus | woot |
| 19:31.57 | MohammadAG | err, planet? |
| 19:32.00 | slonopotamus | 1 level left to all 3 stars |
| 19:32.04 | tybollt | slonopotamus: no he spells his nick "w00t" |
| 19:32.13 | slonopotamus | w00t |
| 19:32.19 | Stskeeps | MohammadAG: planet.maemo.org |
| 19:32.19 | tybollt | ;-) |
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| 19:32.42 | MohammadAG | lol never heard of that before |
| 19:32.54 | slonopotamus | :/ |
| 19:33.05 | Cas07 | RST38h: yeh that puzzled me until i found out it was from chinook repository :D |
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| 19:33.41 | Stskeeps | MohammadAG: mer-project.blogspot.com has various advice |
| 19:33.49 | MohammadAG | found it |
| 19:33.56 | MohammadAG | kk Stskeeps |
| 19:34.00 | xorAxAx | how do you like this config file approach? |
| 19:34.01 | xorAxAx | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/167232 |
| 19:34.05 | xorAxAx | for the dwimd |
| 19:34.05 | MohammadAG | never had an n810/800 |
| 19:34.07 | GeneralAntilles | Ugh, portrait. |
| 19:34.10 | GeneralAntilles | I really hate Engadget. |
| 19:34.20 | Cas07 | LOL! |
| 19:34.23 | xorAxAx | never had an 800, but any other internet tablet |
| 19:34.24 | GeneralAntilles | Chris Ziegler should be strung up for abusing "journalism" so. |
| 19:35.07 | Cas07 | maybe that why it took him so long to write it? |
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| 19:37.12 | xorAxAx | any ideas? |
| 19:37.36 | fnordianslip | GeneralAntilles: i'd recommend AppleCare for your mbpro. My 2.5 year old one had graphics adapter issues, and it came back fixed in a week. Shame the keyboard is still dodgy though :( |
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| 19:39.20 | javispedro | god save us. |
| 19:39.32 | javispedro | and those who can understand clutter. |
| 19:39.33 | GeneralAntilles | fnordianslip, huh? |
| 19:39.38 | Stskeeps | javispedro: mm? |
| 19:39.58 | javispedro | Stskeeps: I'm trying to dig more into the issue... |
| 19:39.59 | fnordianslip | GeneralAntilles: oh, just some advice. not suggesting yours is broken |
| 19:40.04 | nedko | is there a biff-like app for n900? |
| 19:40.07 | GeneralAntilles | fnordianslip, I don't own a mbp. |
| 19:40.21 | xorAxAx | guys, is the config file format understandable? |
| 19:40.31 | xorAxAx | would you use such a daemon that does what you mean? :) |
| 19:40.32 | fnordianslip | oh. confused. sorry. you should though, they're nice |
| 19:40.43 | javispedro | Stskeeps: since I found that some textures are still byteswapped, and then, when put in perspective, nothing makes any sense at all. |
| 19:40.45 | xorAxAx | controlling the behaviour of your device based on environmental parameters |
| 19:41.05 | javispedro | like MSBFirst should mean RGB textures "in what I think is clutter parlance" and not BGR. |
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| 19:41.59 | xorAxAx | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/167232 |
| 19:42.15 | javispedro | looks like someone couldn't decide wheter to make RGB "physical RGB" or "BGR in LE, RGB in BE". |
| 19:42.57 | GeneralAntilles | Cas07, that review coming from Ziegler is practically a 10/10. |
| 19:43.05 | GeneralAntilles | fnordianslip, I don't do laptops. |
| 19:43.10 | GeneralAntilles | fnordianslip, N900 + Mac Pro. |
| 19:43.54 | fnordianslip | GeneralAntilles: good choices :) |
| 19:44.17 | fnordianslip | i have far too many computing devices of all shapes and sizes |
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| 19:44.35 | javispedro | baaarg! |
| 19:44.49 | fnordianslip | and none of them run anything written by microsoft :) |
| 19:45.29 | javispedro | so the clutter bitmap conversion feature reads rgb565 as uint16_t (thus actually bgr565 on LE) but reads rgb888 as uint8_t (thus rgb888 on LE) |
| 19:45.51 | javispedro | then proceeds to say that both texture formats are in "RGB" order. |
| 19:46.14 | javispedro | and this is in gl / gles shared code! thus the n900 is doing this. |
| 19:46.25 | javispedro | I can only but fear what kind of other bugs are hiding this one. |
| 19:46.28 | Stskeeps | javispedro: i don't think it's for fun that they're switching away from clutter |
| 19:46.55 | tybollt | just tried the composite thing... that was some poor quality, yikes :-| |
| 19:47.01 | javispedro | Stskeeps: and I fear touching any of this since everything will break. |
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| 19:50.30 | GeneralAntilles | Email sent to Ziegler |
| 19:50.39 | GeneralAntilles | Let's see if he's as obnoxious in his reply as he was last time. |
| 19:50.51 | tybollt | GeneralAntilles: about what, specifically? |
| 19:51.14 | lardman|home | hmm, deja-vu with the email subject line prefix rubbish |
| 19:51.48 | GeneralAntilles | tybollt, orientation incorrectness, the reason for the 3-row keyboard, the complete omission of Extras and a couple other minor things. |
| 19:52.18 | tybollt | I see |
| 19:52.24 | GeneralAntilles | Which, actually, the 3-row explanation makes a lot of sense. |
| 19:52.38 | Gadgetoid_iMac | http://pandorawiki.org/MogsVsDogs is really developing as a concept |
| 19:53.05 | konttori | By the way, have we announced examples on how to have the 'launcher screenshot' in your app? |
| 19:53.12 | konttori | I haven't seen that much in apps so far |
| 19:53.20 | konttori | there is a nice api on how to do it. |
| 19:53.31 | konttori | And I was wondering if people know of it. |
| 19:53.38 | RST38h | nope |
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| 19:53.42 | konttori | really? |
| 19:53.43 | Gadgetoid_iMac | konttori: faking fast app loading times? |
| 19:53.47 | konttori | yeah |
| 19:53.49 | RST38h | and you mean the yellow note thing used in modest/messagin? |
| 19:53.57 | konttori | no, the fake loading |
| 19:54.04 | RST38h | ah, still not :) |
| 19:54.05 | Gadgetoid_iMac | I find it difficult to see that as a priority |
| 19:54.14 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Dirty rotten iPhone trick that it is |
| 19:54.22 | GeneralAntilles | wishes the fake loading worked like the iPhone. |
| 19:54.31 | GeneralAntilles | Having actual widgets makes me want to start tapping things. |
| 19:54.40 | konttori | ? |
| 19:54.51 | Gadgetoid_iMac | GeneralAntilles: it's quite funny when you install a language pack which makes all the text in the fakeloads differ from the actual app |
| 19:54.56 | GeneralAntilles | konttori, the iPhone just shows a skeleton of the UI. |
| 19:55.00 | GeneralAntilles | konttori, then it fills in everything. |
| 19:55.09 | GeneralAntilles | konttori, so it feels faster, but it doesn't feel like you can start tapping yet. |
| 19:55.11 | konttori | sure, well your app can do the same ;) |
| 19:55.16 | GeneralAntilles | Unlike with Maemo and the application manager. . . . |
| 19:55.18 | javispedro | Stskeeps: I see this is all caused by whoever introduced 16bpp texture support in clutter, not upstream (which seems to agree on BGR flag being host-endianness independent) |
| 19:55.23 | konttori | oh, lol, that |
| 19:55.26 | Arkenoi | GeneralAntilles, what was the explanation? |
| 19:55.30 | konttori | I think most of the apps start fast enough |
| 19:55.36 | GeneralAntilles | Gadgetoid_iMac, or rearrange the Control Panels. |
| 19:55.56 | GeneralAntilles | Arkenoi, since Maemo is so touch-oriented, they wanted your thumbs to be as close to the screen as possible. |
| 19:56.06 | GeneralAntilles | Thus, 3-rows instead of 4. |
| 19:56.18 | Arkenoi | most of the apps start fast enough, but 2-3 seconds delay for any qt app is not "fast enough", it is just "barely acceptable and should be fixed" |
| 19:56.34 | Arkenoi | it was "fast enough" when wm was de facto ui standard |
| 19:56.41 | lcuk | from an ideal basis, 2-3 seconds is too long ;) |
| 19:56.54 | konttori | sure, but most apps start in that time |
| 19:57.16 | konttori | and still, the fake launcher brings nice immediate response even faster |
| 19:57.27 | javispedro | I like it. |
| 19:57.48 | Gadgetoid_iMac | The built in Apps on my Palm m500 have no perceptible starting delay, how about we use that as a baseline and work to improve upon it? |
| 19:57.57 | javispedro | though the issue with the key presses going somewhere else was bad, but was it fixed in 1.1 iirc? |
| 19:57.57 | GeneralAntilles | I hate how trying to do things before Maemo is ready is always punished. |
| 19:58.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | 2..3s is fine with me. Esp if alternative is to nuke memory for preloading each and every crap |
| 19:58.21 | GeneralAntilles | Either by switching to the desktop with h-a-m (in older versions) or by clearing whatever you've typed when opening a new browser window. |
| 19:58.34 | javispedro | Gadgetoid: on your Palm, switching between apps is literally two function calls. |
| 19:58.48 | javispedro | (two jumps, that's about it) |
| 19:58.55 | RST38h | looks at a piece of 68000 assembler code, absolutely lost |
| 19:59.06 | GeneralAntilles | Gadgetoid_iMac, Palm might be used as a baseline if you weren't talking about a composited Debian environment. |
| 19:59.10 | konttori | Gadgetoid_iMac: those apps are probably in mem all the time |
| 19:59.19 | javispedro | yep. |
| 19:59.29 | Gadgetoid_iMac | I love how everyone takes me so seriously :) |
| 19:59.33 | Gadgetoid_iMac | I feel special |
| 19:59.36 | konttori | lol |
| 19:59.57 | GeneralAntilles | Oh, by the way, do you want a cloak, konttori? |
| 20:00.06 | konttori | ? |
| 20:00.21 | GeneralAntilles | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.28 | Gadgetoid_iMac | Takes about 30sec to fire up Warfare Incorporated |
| 20:00.40 | GeneralAntilles | konttori, custom Maemo hostmask. |
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| 20:01.16 | konttori | oh, cool! |
| 20:01.20 | konttori | would love it! |
| 20:01.28 | GeneralAntilles | konttori, OK, any preference on the format? |
| 20:01.44 | konttori | Yours looks pretty good! |
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| 20:01.49 | GeneralAntilles | konttori, you can just use a /Maemo/community/contributor/konttori or you could do something that indicates your position at Nokia. |
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| 20:02.11 | GeneralAntilles | For instance, tekojo's got: Maemo/maemo.org/infrastructure/tekojo |
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| 20:02.44 | viq | Anyone found a nice todo application for n900 ? |
| 20:03.03 | viq | And notes, currently using conboy, but syncing would be nice, still looking into that. |
| 20:03.11 | GeneralAntilles | Maemo/Nokia/*/konttori |
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| 20:03.19 | konttori | Sounds good to me |
| 20:04.06 | GeneralAntilles | konttori, fill in the wildcard. |
| 20:04.10 | GeneralAntilles | integration or something? |
| 20:04.19 | konttori | OS |
| 20:04.23 | GeneralAntilles | OK |
| 20:04.49 | GeneralAntilles | Maemo/Nokia/OS/konttori then |
| 20:04.53 | konttori | My transition to head it for fremantle is still incomplete, but started. |
| 20:04.59 | GeneralAntilles | I'll bug X-Fade about doing the next batch tomorrow. |
| 20:05.04 | konttori | thanks |
| 20:05.04 | RST38h | Maemo/Cthulhu/Fhtagn/Fhtagn |
| 20:05.21 | GeneralAntilles | RST38h, too late! You already declined yours. :P |
| 20:05.22 | konttori | Man, engadget were actually positive about n900 in their review http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/nokia-n900-review/ |
| 20:05.38 | GeneralAntilles | konttori, like I said earlier, a review like that from Chris Ziegler is practically a 10/10. |
| 20:05.41 | Arkenoi | GeneralAntilles, bad explanation :-( it affects ability to type too much :-( |
| 20:05.47 | RST38h | Just thinking =) |
| 20:05.59 | GeneralAntilles | Arkenoi, not really once you get used to it. |
| 20:06.06 | GeneralAntilles | Arkenoi, and I don't have to stretch to hit the screen. |
| 20:06.08 | GeneralAntilles | Which is a big plus. |
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| 20:06.55 | Arkenoi | GeneralAntilles, i take lecture notes all the time with n900. it is barely acceptable but nowhere as good as e90 when it comes to typing more than a short email or IM |
| 20:07.32 | lcuk | then complain to your college about giving lectures that are too long |
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| 20:08.42 | frals | lol lcuk, good solution |
| 20:08.47 | xorAxAx | "the environment sensing gestalt optimizer for the n900" - what a title :) |
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| 20:12.12 | lcuk | Arkenoi, in seriousness, what makes it wrong for your notetaking |
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| 20:12.48 | slonopotamus | meh. 'total carnage'. i hoped they'll give bonus level. |
| 20:12.49 | javispedro | KAA NAAMA FTAH'N CTHULHU! |
| 20:12.52 | AOK | hi guys |
| 20:13.04 | AOK | I will be trying tonight to install HAMACHI on my N900 |
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| 20:13.33 | tybollt | is upset that a student can afford this type of phone :) |
| 20:13.53 | tybollt | In my days college (or uni) studies implied you were a poorian :) |
| 20:14.00 | thresh | yeah, what a young little fellow Arkenoi is! |
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| 20:16.23 | GeneralAntilles | tybollt, who knows, he could be working 60 hours a week, eating Top Ramen and putting all of his savings towards cool new devices. |
| 20:17.09 | ds3 | hamachi is for eatting, not installing! |
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| 20:19.10 | AOK | tybollt: this is a special phone |
| 20:19.24 | AOK | it's worth every cent/penny given |
| 20:19.35 | AOK | get it on leasing or something |
| 20:21.25 | aliendude3500 | Hi, all I'm looking for right now is _any_ subsidized Maemo phone on _any_ wireless carrier in the United States. |
| 20:21.48 | tybollt | GeneralAntilles: he could. :) |
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| 20:26.26 | PaulAnagrama | Hi. Short question: does the email client on N900 (gmail account) has the option of "leave message on the server"? If I delete on the tablet, it gets deleted on the server too and I can't find this option "leave message on the server" |
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| 20:27.38 | AOK | PaulAnagrama: why not using IMAO |
| 20:27.40 | AOK | IMAP |
| 20:27.49 | igagis | PaulAnagrama: as i know it works via IMAP |
| 20:27.50 | AOK | I am currently using it and it works just fiiiiiineee :-0 |
| 20:27.58 | AOK | rofl |
| 20:28.06 | AOK | igagis: |
| 20:28.09 | AOK | we think the same |
| 20:28.19 | thresh | you should marry |
| 20:28.31 | pronto | that fmms thing, for the config, what do i put for MMSC ? |
| 20:28.45 | igagis | it works via IMAP by default |
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| 20:28.54 | igagis | AOK: ;-) |
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| 20:29.38 | eijk_ | X-Fade, are you still around? |
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| 20:30.16 | eijk | The cache somehow doesn't flush and I still get errors on apt-get update... |
| 20:31.39 | chem|st | PaulAnagrama: thats something you have to tell google not the phone (if you are using POP3, IMAP is sync and you never have your email on the phone apart of a temp you loaded to view, ok depends on settings but the idea is to have non-local emails) |
| 20:31.40 | X-Fade | eijk: What file was it again? |
| 20:31.51 | kamui | still having some battery problems |
| 20:31.53 | kamui | its lame |
| 20:32.00 | kamui | but I think its just pulse audio |
| 20:32.05 | PaulAnagrama | thanks |
| 20:32.08 | kamui | its been "idling" all day at 16% cpu |
| 20:32.32 | chem|st | idle != load |
| 20:33.10 | PaulAnagrama | Another question. In address book you can setup the street address for the contacts. Is there any way to see this address on the ovi maps app? |
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| 20:33.35 | pierlux | or any other maps app :) |
| 20:33.42 | chem|st | not my topic but I guess yes |
| 20:34.14 | chem|st | isnt there a "find on map" or something in the contactsmenu |
| 20:34.26 | PaulAnagrama | well, I can't find a way to see this address in ovi maps... |
| 20:34.33 | PaulAnagrama | nope, I didn't see anything like that |
| 20:34.38 | chem|st | mmh |
| 20:34.44 | chem|st | do not know... |
| 20:35.15 | igagis | I have just uploaded my package to extras-devel but the tablet does not see it |
| 20:35.16 | igagis | http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/theremin/1.7.1-1 |
| 20:35.31 | flux | konttori_nokia, decently positive interview, but the guy completely missed the existence of maemo-extras :) |
| 20:35.50 | GeneralAntilles | tybollt, or just do what I did and put those 60 hours into conning Nokia into sending you a loaner. ;) |
| 20:36.06 | igagis | it says it has missing dependencies, why i that? Why autobuilder put missing lib version? |
| 20:36.57 | X-Fade | flux: Because the icon for app manager is hidden away. |
| 20:37.16 | X-Fade | flux: Along with all the other non cool apps :) |
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| 20:40.40 | nedko | is hacking an eve online access app that will work on n900 |
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| 20:43.44 | xorAxAx | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4143 |
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| 20:47.48 | AOK | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel |
| 20:47.50 | AOK | sorry |
| 20:48.17 | AOK | I don't know how to select the link from within the firefox of the n900 |
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| 20:50.18 | RST38h | Freoffice does not seem to be optified |
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| 20:51.21 | eijk | X-Fade, http://repository.maemo.org/dists/fremantle/sdk/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz fails in apt-get update but my browser gets an gzip file. Strange. |
| 20:52.05 | eijk | X-Fade, now my browser gets gzips on all previously failing URLs. |
| 20:52.16 | eijk | Probably apt-get will recover too soon. |
| 20:53.06 | eijk | Maybe it uses a different server from the round-robin DNS replies. |
| 20:55.12 | lcuk | hiya mikhas hows it goin |
| 20:55.23 | RST38h | Am I the only one feeling that Freoffice is unusably slow? |
| 20:55.35 | RST38h | Maybe it is the document I am trying to load? |
| 20:55.55 | lcuk | RST38h, not tried it |
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| 21:00.38 | eijk | X-Fade, rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* fixed it |
| 21:00.48 | eijk | These still contained the error pages |
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| 21:04.44 | LuciusMare | hi |
| 21:04.53 | LuciusMare | i heard a hoax,but just in case |
| 21:05.17 | LuciusMare | more data on the internal memory do not consume more battery. |
| 21:05.21 | LuciusMare | right? |
| 21:05.58 | LuciusMare | this is as it came to me - dont store too much data,it drains battery because the device has to keep more parts active |
| 21:06.12 | oscillik | nope |
| 21:06.14 | oscillik | not true |
| 21:06.14 | mikhas | heya lcuk! |
| 21:06.21 | oscillik | only true for stuff you keep in RAM |
| 21:06.25 | oscillik | internal storage is not RAM |
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| 21:09.15 | LuciusMare | great |
| 21:09.58 | LuciusMare | i told them so, but its kinda logical,actually |
| 21:10.03 | LuciusMare | thanks |
| 21:10.30 | Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: did you have experience with IEGD? |
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| 21:14.39 | woglinde | jo jebba |
| 21:14.43 | jebba | y |
| 21:14.45 | odin_ | Stskeeps, have you complied a kernel since 55-1 |
| 21:15.36 | odin_ | $ apt-get install fiasco-gen <<-- does not exist bug#7972 |
| 21:16.29 | Stskeeps | odin_: Reporter: Carsten Munk <carsten.munk@gmail.com> <- me |
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| 21:17.25 | odin_ | can I compile 44-1 ? how do I check it out |
| 21:17.58 | Stskeeps | kernel version 4102.3 |
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| 21:20.57 | odin_ | "apt-get source kernel 4102.3" sorry not a debian user at heart |
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| 21:21.51 | odin_ | something like: apt-get source kernel=2.6.28-20094803.3+0m5 << since that works |
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| 21:23.58 | odin_ | ah got it... "apt-cache showpkg kernel" shows up "2.6.28-20094102.6+0m5" |
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| 21:26.18 | odin_ | jebba, whose box is this scratchbox? (freemoe) |
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| 21:29.35 | woglinde | re |
| 21:30.17 | odin_ | I asked on glibc about libintl, apparently the /usr/share/locale directory is hardwired into glibc.... SuSE has a similar requirement and a maintainer produces a patch http://pasky.or.cz/~pasky/dev/glibc/glibc-2.3.90-langpackdir.diff this basicallys adds additional directories to the locale searches |
| 21:31.49 | odin_ | the issue I am thinking over is command-line tools in /opt/maemo, making a few symlinks for the binaries/execs and maybe a few configs/data is acceptable but when it comes to locale should the maemo platform be looking to modify its core libraries to automatically look into /opt/maemo as well as the default system paths |
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| 21:33.33 | odin_ | so fo rexample: /opt/maemo/usr/local/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/xyz123.mo would require adding a patch to glibc to also search in /opt/maemo/usr/share/locale AND /opt/maemo/usr/local/share/locale |
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| 21:34.08 | jebba | odin_: the freemoe scratchbox is on a server of mine at netdepot.com |
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| 21:36.13 | jebba | i can't believe the "last mile" problem either. I'd love to see the planning docs for this move. yowza |
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| 21:37.38 | Stskeeps | jebba: did you see the real cause of the issue? |
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| 21:38.56 | Stskeeps | jebba: also, http://mer-project.blogspot.com/2010/01/dual-booting-mer-on-nokia-n900.html |
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| 21:40.08 | odin_ | jebba, looks like I shall be using it for a bit as my planned upgrade to FC12 might never take place; so no local scratchbox for me for a while, so if I am eating up too much disk please send me a slap |
| 21:40.15 | timeless_mbp | cries |
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| 21:42.09 | odin_ | pop the battery, pop the battery !!! |
| 21:43.18 | odin_ | Stskeeps, it uses Nokia's kernel but an alternative rootfs ? |
| 21:43.31 | jebba | Stskeeps: akamai is gunzipping the files on the fly, no? |
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| 21:44.29 | jebba | odin_: no problem. If you *need* more diskspace, let me know and i can just allocate more. That box is a virtual computer so i can just line up larger virtual drives for it as needed (do a df outside of the scratchbox to see what i mean) |
| 21:44.59 | xorAxAx | some wiki pages read like parts of maemo were developed and documented in russia |
| 21:45.15 | jebba | downloading testing10 now |
| 21:45.17 | Stskeeps | jebba: no, worse. it cached error responses from a script that went wrong |
| 21:45.37 | xorAxAx | ok, brazil. nearly russia :) |
| 21:45.48 | RST38h | both statements are probably correct |
| 21:46.17 | odin_ | in Soviet Nokia your handset rulez you |
| 21:46.22 | jebba | oooh! charging and watchdog! No r&d mode? |
| 21:47.08 | thresh | xorAxAx: a lot of russians work for nokia |
| 21:47.58 | jebba | so is that what is causing the repos to be down again? I havent checked myself, i'm just seeing my inbox |
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| 21:49.04 | jebba | Stskeeps: what's .gpgs? |
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| 21:50.47 | dotblank | So im getting the n900 tonight |
| 21:50.48 | Stskeeps | jebba: .gpg files |
| 21:51.02 | dotblank | Cant wait |
| 21:51.08 | Stskeeps | jebba: basically i think the export filter had an error and that caused the temporary issue (which is fixed now) |
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| 21:53.27 | Stskeeps | god, IEGD drivers are worse than dealing with n8x0 MBX drivers |
| 21:54.24 | ShadowJK | iegd? is that poulsbo? |
| 21:54.29 | jebba | ah, literally gpg files, gotcha, |
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| 21:54.48 | Stskeeps | ShadowJK: well it's powervr underneath i think |
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| 21:55.04 | woglinde | Stskeeps uh what you are doing with iegd? |
| 21:55.05 | ljp | I thought Fins were Russians with a northern accent |
| 21:55.15 | Stskeeps | woglinde: i bought a Joggler |
| 21:55.23 | woglinde | Stskeeps they got better with the later releases |
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| 21:56.05 | ShadowJK | yeah powervr.. |
| 21:56.38 | woglinde | hm oh whats joggler? |
| 21:57.04 | woglinde | and yes gma500 its powervr |
| 21:57.14 | woglinde | nearly the same as in omap3 platform |
| 21:57.31 | Stskeeps | woglinde: 99 GBP atom device, 512mb ram, usb port, ethernet, wifi 800x480 capacitive screen |
| 21:57.38 | Stskeeps | only connects to DC, no battery |
| 21:57.41 | Stskeeps | and hackable to run linux |
| 21:57.46 | uhsf | I just honnored one minute of silence at 16:53 for Haïti. |
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| 21:57.59 | Stskeeps | and 7" screen |
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| 21:58.02 | woglinde | stskeep yes the most are linux hackable |
| 21:58.18 | Stskeeps | woglinde: in this case it has EFI and such so not that straightforward :P |
| 21:58.19 | woglinde | stskeep which formfactor? |
| 21:58.26 | woglinde | uh efi |
| 21:58.27 | lcuk | uhsf, good, but so others could have joined in, perhaps you could have told us earlier |
| 21:58.30 | Stskeeps | woglinde: tablet with a huge unmountable efi |
| 21:58.31 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 21:58.34 | lcuk | woglinde, photoframe |
| 21:58.38 | Stskeeps | err, unmountable stand |
| 21:58.43 | woglinde | lcuk ah thanks |
| 21:58.44 | woglinde | lol |
| 21:58.45 | Stskeeps | .. non-unmountable i think |
| 21:58.48 | odin_ | jebba, can FTP me made to work (from inside sbox, maybe some NAT helper kernel module is not running? or NAT settings) or maybe I just loging sbox? |
| 21:58.53 | woglinde | photoframe with gma500 lol |
| 21:59.04 | lcuk | Stskeeps, it prolly can be unhinged but i havent tried yet |
| 21:59.08 | Stskeeps | woglinde: it's a little more than a photoframe though :P |
| 21:59.11 | lcuk | the psu connector would make that impractica |
| 21:59.12 | Stskeeps | i run mer on it |
| 21:59.17 | woglinde | but 99 GB its a good price |
| 21:59.17 | jebba | Stskeeps: there a link anywhere describing the akamai .gpg thing i can link to? |
| 21:59.27 | woglinde | stskeep which iged did you use? |
| 21:59.28 | Stskeeps | jebba: earlier in this discussion |
| 21:59.36 | Stskeeps | woglinde: 10.1 at first but 10.2 now |
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| 21:59.41 | woglinde | I didnt tested the latest |
| 21:59.51 | Stskeeps | jebba: it wasn't a akamai issue, just stuff that shouldn't have been cached |
| 21:59.53 | Stskeeps | (i think) |
| 21:59.55 | woglinde | 10.1 worked but without 3d on jaunty |
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| 22:00.12 | woglinde | with kernel 2.6.29 from moblin |
| 22:00.13 | Stskeeps | jebba: but it's all flushed out now |
| 22:00.45 | Chiku | does adblock is for meamo basic browser? |
| 22:00.58 | Chiku | I 'installed adblock and I don't it anywhere |
| 22:01.18 | jebba | odin_: I can use ftp on the SDK box. I don't have ftp client in the scratchbox, but i dont know why offhand it wouldn't work. Just exit the scratchbox if it's not working within it (not a NAT issue) |
| 22:01.41 | jebba | Stskeeps: as of when? the posts keep coming. |
| 22:01.55 | odin_ | jebba, works outside (which will do me), from inside I use "wget" that works ftp:// schems |
| 22:02.16 | jebba | no clue why it doesnt work within scratchbox |
| 22:02.18 | Stskeeps | jebba: where? i don't see any new ones |
| 22:02.43 | jebba | thought i saw some on talk.mo but maybe i'm just lagging. |
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| 22:04.36 | Stskeeps | jebba: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/latest.log.html#t2010-01-19T20:06:07 it started at, X-Fade picked it up immediately, fixed it |
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| 22:06.25 | Chiku | someone installed adblock? |
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| 22:09.11 | wolf^ | Chiku, yes, it does work, but it's hard to configure |
| 22:09.39 | Chiku | where is adblock after installation? |
| 22:10.02 | wolf^ | don't know/don't care |
| 22:10.19 | wolf^ | you can try to copy your adblock configuration from pc to n900 |
| 22:10.36 | wolf^ | look into /home/user/.mozilla/microb |
| 22:10.38 | wolf^ | works for me |
| 22:10.41 | odin_ | Chiku, you mean how do you configure it/remove it ? I have this same issue with "Load Applet" |
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| 22:10.56 | __ibz | hi, does anyone know the differences between the various image variants? usa vs middle east & north africa vs global? |
| 22:11.36 | odin_ | language, legal, radio frequence capability/requirement differences ? (would be by guess) |
| 22:12.02 | Shrik3 | keyboard layout? |
| 22:12.15 | __ibz | odin_: ok, so if you have a us device, but using it in europe, you would use global not usa? |
| 22:12.47 | Arkenoi | impressed people today with ussd widget: see, this thing is just a couple of scripts and a few mniutes to set up, can you do that on wm, android, or, haha, iphone? |
| 22:12.48 | odin_ | __ibz, well I would also guess different specific versions of hardware are also shipped to different parts of the world too |
| 22:13.13 | odin_ | __ibz, not just visible keyboard layout changes, other things might be different |
| 22:13.18 | ShadowJK | arkenoi: this is why I like maemo :) |
| 22:13.57 | Shrik3 | Arkenoi: united studios of self defence widget or what?-) |
| 22:14.11 | __ibz | hmmmn, so what image *should* i use, there is no guidance on the tablets-dev.nokia.com webpage.. |
| 22:14.39 | Chiku | wolf^, does mean this file patterns.ini ? |
| 22:14.53 | thomaz | __ibz, i reflashed mine with the global image, seems ok so far |
| 22:15.16 | wolf^ | Chiku, yes, that one |
| 22:15.25 | odin_ | __ibz, I would hope is there are real hardware difference, the flasher will refused to flash something that plainly won't work.. but that is a hope! |
| 22:15.29 | Chiku | ok I will try it |
| 22:15.39 | Arkenoi | Shrik3, a simple script that requests account balance from cellular operator and shows the result in a small widget |
| 22:15.47 | Shrik3 | ah |
| 22:15.53 | odin_ | Shrik3, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unstructured_Supplementary_Service_Data |
| 22:16.17 | __ibz | i'm going to try global first...thanks odin_, thomaz |
| 22:16.18 | odin_ | you know the "phone" bit of the device, that you would have expected Nokia to be shit hot on |
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| 22:16.58 | odin_ | but instead support for things every other phone has may never by part of the N900 |
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| 22:17.52 | Arkenoi | well, we already have MMS (though a bit tricky to set up) and USSD (not well-integrated), what else do we miss? voice dial? |
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| 22:18.20 | __ibz | odin_: are you saying maemo will never mature as a phone OS, or that by the time it does, n900 will likely not be supported (e.g maemo 6)? |
| 22:19.13 | Arkenoi | i think PR1.2 will be good enough for a phone OS |
| 22:19.36 | GeneralAntilles | Stskeeps, hmm? |
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| 22:21.09 | Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: nm |
| 22:21.21 | Stskeeps | just messing about with a intel graphics device so |
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| 22:27.45 | Chiku | about repository is I added devel so I don't need testing right? |
| 22:31.31 | timeless_mbp | __ibz: fwiw, i work at nokia and don't know anything about the different images |
| 22:31.36 | timeless_mbp | we didn't really know they existed |
| 22:32.07 | pronto | i'm having trouble getting fMMS working, i set MMSC to http://mmsc.cingular.com (i have at&t) , but it'll say failed to download message |
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| 22:35.46 | timeless_mbp | __ibz: note that an n900 _must_ be able to operate anywhere in the world |
| 22:36.01 | timeless_mbp | so whatever the differences are, they can't be too interesting :) |
| 22:36.40 | Stskeeps | jebba: http://communitizer.blogspot.com/2010/01/backwards-compatibility-broken-pr11-sdk.html re discussions , it refers to it |
| 22:36.44 | xorAxAx | pronto: maybe you have to configure another APN |
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| 22:39.19 | jebba | Stskeeps: dude on maemo-devel is still reporting repo errors |
| 22:39.43 | jebba | in this case .gz related, not gpg |
| 22:40.03 | jebba | http://pastebin.ca/1757618 |
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| 22:43.07 | adalal | how do you play m4b file? |
| 22:43.33 | xorAxAx | with mediabox? :) |
| 22:46.39 | jebba | Stskeeps: i'm getting: "W: GPG error: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG E40DC434616730BD maemo.org Extras repositories (Fremantle Extras) <repositories@maemo.org>" |
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| 22:46.56 | xorAxAx | yes, i am seeing invalid signatures as well |
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| 22:48.23 | Chiku | how to copy paste on x termical ? |
| 22:48.41 | Chiku | oh top menu |
| 22:49.30 | jebba | xorAxAx: any clue why? Is your error exactly the same as mine? |
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| 22:50.41 | jebba | X-Fade ? ^^ |
| 22:50.49 | xorAxAx | jebba: yes, same error. well, invalid signatures :) |
| 22:51.07 | jebba | xorAxAx: same BADSIG? If different, can you paste it? |
| 22:51.18 | jebba | i'm submitting to bugzilla |
| 22:52.01 | xorAxAx | yes, the same |
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| 22:55.15 | pronto | heh, when i confugure the at&t internet to use a proxy fmms works, but sites don't load right, there needs to be a way to only use the at&t proxy for fMMS |
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| 22:55.52 | jebba | waiting for headers man, it's still going on. |
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| 22:58.03 | krasatos | hi there, i got a lil question about the fm transmitter on n900 if any1's willing to help: im in a country where it's disabled, so i downloaded this app to enable the transmiter and now i can access it through the settings menu, still there is no option in the media player to route the audio to the fm transmitter... any ideas? |
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| 23:07.34 | Cas07 | hmmm tea and keyboard not playing nice tonight! |
| 23:07.47 | timeless_mbp | krasatos: eh |
| 23:07.59 | timeless_mbp | what do you mean a country where the fm transmitter is disabled? |
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| 23:10.19 | luke-jr | timeless_mbp: probably legal regulations prohibit private FM transmittors? |
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| 23:11.38 | krasatos | the fm transmitter of the n900 is disabled in some countries |
| 23:11.39 | timeless_mbp | krasatos: open settings>fm transmitter |
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| 23:11.52 | krasatos | depending on the imei of the device |
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| 23:12.09 | timeless_mbp | krasatos: is it actually disabled? |
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| 23:12.13 | timeless_mbp | because that's nuts |
| 23:12.23 | krasatos | ie Greek phones come with the fm transmitters of the device |
| 23:12.28 | AOK-N | dddd |
| 23:12.29 | __ibz | timeless_mbp: thanks |
| 23:12.29 | krasatos | there is a hack to enable it |
| 23:12.34 | krasatos | lemme fetch a link |
| 23:12.51 | GeneralAntilles | finally got most of the way through his -community backlog. |
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| 23:12.55 | xorAxAx | its in the repo, the hack |
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| 23:13.09 | GeneralAntilles | Just need to finish reading that monster Brainstorm usefulness thread. |
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| 23:13.17 | krasatos | yeh, it's this app "fmtx-faker" |
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| 23:13.37 | xorAxAx | timeless_mbp: you didnt know that? :) |
| 23:13.37 | krasatos | thing is, although the transmiter is now working, at least i can access it's settings, |
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| 23:13.56 | krasatos | it;s not available to select as output on the maemo's built in media player |
| 23:14.03 | Chiku | wolf^, adblock doens"t block ads like on my pc |
| 23:14.18 | Chiku | i use same patterns.ini |
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| 23:14.34 | timeless_mbp | xorAxAx: they don't tell us about every stupid thing that goes around in their heads |
| 23:15.00 | krasatos | i can select it as output from this mediabox player (havent't tested if it's working yet) but i can select it |
| 23:15.09 | krasatos | there's no option in the default media player |
| 23:15.16 | timeless_mbp | frowns |
| 23:15.16 | krasatos | that's why im asking for clues :( |
| 23:15.21 | timeless_mbp | kicks krasatos |
| 23:15.24 | timeless_mbp | let's try this again. |
| 23:15.25 | xorAxAx | krasatos: there is a simple-fmtx widget |
| 23:15.28 | timeless_mbp | did you open Settings? |
| 23:15.34 | timeless_mbp | did you check the checkbox? |
| 23:15.36 | xorAxAx | krasatos: that lets you enable the tx via the desktop |
| 23:15.37 | wolf^ | Chiku, try opening xterm and execute "killall -9 browser browserd" |
| 23:15.38 | GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp, I think you should request some stream-of-consciousness microblogging. |
| 23:15.39 | timeless_mbp | did you select a frequency? |
| 23:15.41 | wolf^ | ChanServ, preferably as root |
| 23:15.58 | wolf^ | Chiku, this should reload browser (and adblock) |
| 23:16.12 | nomis | Hum. hildon.WizardDialog for some reason messes with the title of the dialog when switching pages. It suddenly showed "Welcome" that I did not specify anywhere. |
| 23:16.27 | GeneralAntilles | wolf^, restart browser may be a better option. |
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| 23:16.52 | krasatos | timeless_mbp: yes, but the last step is to start playing a song and then have the media player to output it to the fm transmitter right? |
| 23:16.53 | GeneralAntilles | Or whatever the hell the upstart recipe is. |
| 23:16.53 | Chiku | wolf^, I even reboot it |
| 23:17.05 | timeless_mbp | krasatos: yes |
| 23:17.11 | timeless_mbp | err no |
| 23:17.15 | timeless_mbp | last step is to plug in headphones |
| 23:17.16 | wolf^ | Chiku, which adblock are you using (how have you installed it)? |
| 23:17.22 | timeless_mbp | and *then* turn on the media player |
| 23:17.23 | Chiku | yes |
| 23:17.27 | krasatos | ow, |
| 23:17.30 | krasatos | lemme check ;) |
| 23:17.33 | timeless_mbp | if you don't plug in headphones, you don't have an antenna |
| 23:17.38 | timeless_mbp | if you don't have an antenna, well.. you can't transimt |
| 23:17.41 | timeless_mbp | s/imt/mit/ |
| 23:17.48 | timeless_mbp | GeneralAntilles: users suck |
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| 23:18.13 | GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp, erm, actually, doesn't plugging in headphones DISABLE the transmitter? |
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| 23:18.19 | Chiku | adblock plus 1maemo0-8 |
| 23:18.24 | GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp, receiver requires headphones. |
| 23:18.30 | GeneralAntilles | The transmitter doesn't. |
| 23:18.31 | timeless_mbp | GeneralAntilles: from memory, no |
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| 23:18.49 | GeneralAntilles | Maybe it just lowers the output power when headphones are plugged in. |
| 23:19.08 | GeneralAntilles | (disproportionately, so you're likely to get a lower quality signal) |
| 23:19.21 | krasatos | generalantilles ure right, it wont let me launch the transmitter with anything pluged in the jack slot, headphones or av output cable |
| 23:19.24 | Chiku | lol, I'm reading description "... Will requirea reboot or two after installation before it will work" |
| 23:19.33 | timeless_mbp | oops |
| 23:19.35 | timeless_mbp | sorry :) |
| 23:19.40 | timeless_mbp | doesn't really use the transmitter |
| 23:19.43 | GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp, you suck. :P |
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| 23:20.28 | wolf^ | Chiku, see http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/adblock-plus-1.0/ |
| 23:20.46 | wolf^ | Chiku, seems there are some problems (but with workarounds) |
| 23:21.12 | krasatos | hmm... ok, if i enable the transmitter first from the settings menu, then run the media player it routes the sound to the transmitter, it's working |
| 23:21.17 | wolf^ | Chiku, I have adblock 1.1.1, not from extras, which works better |
| 23:21.44 | timeless_mbp | ok, stupid question |
| 23:21.48 | timeless_mbp | how does one test the fm radio? |
| 23:21.55 | odin_ | __ibz, I'm saying its been commented on my representatives as Nokia that for the N900 at least certain phone functions (which usually have UI) may never be provided |
| 23:21.56 | Chiku | where did you got this version? |
| 23:22.02 | GAN900 | timeless_mbp, send or receive? |
| 23:22.06 | timeless_mbp | send :) |
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| 23:22.23 | timeless_mbp | can't figure out how to use the fm radio on this stereo system |
| 23:22.32 | w00t | is there a safe way to restart X without restarting the whole device (over ssh)? I've managed to horribly confuse the application menu in interesting ways |
| 23:22.49 | krasatos | i just thought that i could enable it after runing the media player and then tapping on the top of the screen and selecting transmitter (saw the option in a youtube vid, had the playlist buttons+ a fm transmitter option) mine doesnt, but it seems to wokr the other way around |
| 23:22.52 | krasatos | i can leave with it |
| 23:23.02 | krasatos | live* |
| 23:23.38 | krasatos | thanx guys, nn+cu round |
| 23:23.57 | AOK-N | hmmm |
| 23:24.15 | odin_ | ah I see why the gzip/akamai talk earliar in channel; to do with current repo errors |
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| 23:24.48 | w00t | tries to restart it anywaty |
| 23:24.50 | timeless_mbp | hey! |
| 23:24.54 | timeless_mbp | i could test using my n800! |
| 23:25.10 | wolf^ | Chiku, http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/12/ |
| 23:25.16 | wolf^ | Chiku, remember to uninstall old adblock first |
| 23:25.27 | krasatos | hm, thought of another question :).... how do i add msn messenger support to the built in IM thingy? |
| 23:25.49 | Chiku | thx wolf^ |
| 23:25.57 | timeless_mbp | wow |
| 23:26.05 | w00t | hooray |
| 23:26.09 | timeless_mbp | didn't realize that browser.garage still published news |
| 23:26.11 | w00t | restarting hildon-desktop fixed it |
| 23:26.48 | w00t | though I do wonder why, if the init.d script can stop and start it, why it can't just restart it |
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| 23:27.10 | w00t | though it is of little consequence |
| 23:27.25 | timeless_mbp | krasatos: it's in extras |
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| 23:28.09 | krasatos | any hint on the name so i can search for it? |
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| 23:28.21 | krasatos | timeless_mbp |
| 23:28.45 | timeless_mbp | msn protocol plugin for Conversations and Contacts |
| 23:29.13 | krasatos | thanx timeless |
| 23:29.29 | timeless_mbp | krasatos: so |
| 23:29.35 | timeless_mbp | the fm radio icon in the status area... |
| 23:29.39 | timeless_mbp | just tells you that you're broadcasting |
| 23:29.46 | timeless_mbp | the item in the menu lets you change the settings |
| 23:29.59 | timeless_mbp | remember that the broadcast range for the fm radio is incredibly small |
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| 23:31.15 | krasatos | timeless_mbp: mate, when in the "now playing" screen when u tap on the top part, do u get a fm transmitter option? |
| 23:31.25 | javispedro | the official fmtx middleware _disables_ the tx when headphones are connected |
| 23:31.48 | timeless_mbp | krasatos: yes |
| 23:31.56 | krasatos | i dont get one :( |
| 23:31.58 | timeless_mbp | do you really not get one? |
| 23:32.01 | SpeedEvil | timeless: The FM transmitter runs from a transmit antenna loop that is integrated into the case, and connected by a little spring connector |
| 23:32.02 | timeless_mbp | frowns |
| 23:32.03 | krasatos | yep |
| 23:32.16 | timeless_mbp | SpeedEvil: interesting |
| 23:32.29 | timeless_mbp | krasatos: gah, |
| 23:32.38 | SpeedEvil | timeless: see the hardware hacking page in the n900_hardware category for the l3/l4 manual |
| 23:32.48 | krasatos | i only get "Clear current playlist" and "Save playlist" timeless_mbp |
| 23:32.51 | timeless_mbp | SpeedEvil: no thanks |
| 23:33.16 | timeless_mbp | sighs |
| 23:33.18 | SpeedEvil | Also - one way of checking the tx is to measure teh current consumption - but that won't work reliably with the internal sensor - as it's only a 19mA jump |
| 23:34.50 | uhsf | new Sony VAIO Z is gonna be so powerful but I'm so poor I can't buy laptops |
| 23:35.06 | w00t | uhsf: info? |
| 23:35.09 | w00t | is a sony lover |
| 23:35.23 | xorAxAx | thinkpads are the better sony |
| 23:35.27 | krasatos | is there some way to keep incoming messages and missed calls notifications visible in the desktops? |
| 23:35.33 | timeless_mbp | krasatos: can you visit a country which doesn't have this rule and then file a bug? |
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| 23:36.25 | xorAxAx | :-) |
| 23:36.58 | krasatos | well. i think its working anyway if i enable the transmitter before i run the media app, so i dont think i'll bother |
| 23:37.01 | timeless_mbp | because if it doesn't work properly when you're in another country, it's buggy |
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| 23:37.13 | SpeedEvil | ebay |
| 23:37.17 | krasatos | maybe in an update of the media playeer it'll be fixed |
| 23:37.28 | timeless_mbp | krasatos: which software are you running? |
| 23:38.01 | timeless_mbp | 42-11/44-1/51-1/ ? |
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| 23:38.20 | krasatos | i update the latest update available |
| 23:38.37 | krasatos | 5.1? |
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| 23:39.52 | Chiku | wolf^, when microb need restart, when I tap on restart it won't |
| 23:40.12 | krasatos | yo timeless... how can i check my contacts? how can i see who's online? |
| 23:40.29 | timeless_mbp | just open addressbook, tap the title, tap the third tab |
| 23:40.31 | Chiku | and if I closed microb, when I launch it, I don't see adblock in extension list :( |
| 23:40.34 | w00t | open contacts, click the title area |
| 23:40.47 | w00t | timeless_mbp as ever, is faster :-) |
| 23:41.04 | timeless_mbp | krasatos: which language is your device using? |
| 23:41.10 | timeless_mbp | iirc we don't offer greek |
| 23:41.48 | krasatos | i am Greek, but i use the phone in english |
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| 23:41.58 | wolf^ | Chiku, just open the x terminal and execute kill -9 ... command |
| 23:42.16 | krasatos | thanx for the tip btw, it would take me a while to find it out ;) |
| 23:43.13 | pupnik | ssh + mplayer helps locate device |
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| 23:43.45 | krasatos | gnite guys, thanx for all the help ;) |
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| 23:43.49 | javispedro | ... specially if you output audio with media.role == "game" which bypasses most volume controls |
| 23:43.57 | javispedro | and thus you get a loud _bang_ from the speakers |
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| 23:44.17 | pupnik | didn't try that |
| 23:44.23 | AOK | fre |
| 23:44.23 | pupnik | it disables xprot? |
| 23:44.27 | pupnik | @ javispedro |
| 23:44.30 | AOK | Soo I have a big problem |
| 23:44.32 | AOK | I have installed |
| 23:44.39 | javispedro | nope, just uses max volume no matter what |
| 23:44.47 | javispedro | even with headphones connected |
| 23:44.55 | javispedro | (it's a bug, I filed it) |
| 23:44.58 | AOK | Beah SSh |
| 23:45.00 | AOK | the client |
| 23:45.05 | AOK | I want to install HAMACHI |
| 23:45.23 | AOK | http://logmeinwiki.com/wiki/Hamachi:Install_on_Nokia_N800 |
| 23:45.27 | AOK | The problem is |
| 23:45.33 | pupnik | ok do not try to move vmware-player to a new system. reinstall instead. |
| 23:45.49 | AOK | Install dropbear SSH |
| 23:45.49 | AOK | In xterm, do a dbclient root@127.1 with password "rootme" (if rootme doesn't work, update your Nokia software to the latest version, at least the 3/2007 version. |
| 23:45.59 | AOK | Now here is where it asks for password |
| 23:46.07 | AOK | and gainroot is not working |
| 23:46.10 | AOK | neither is rootme |
| 23:46.13 | AOK | on my N900 |
| 23:46.25 | SpeedEvil | type root |
| 23:46.28 | SpeedEvil | what happens |
| 23:46.34 | AOK | I have of course ran it under give me a sec |
| 23:46.35 | SpeedEvil | you have installed the roothsh pachage? |
| 23:46.37 | SpeedEvil | rootsh |
| 23:46.38 | AOK | restarting |
| 23:46.44 | woglinde | aok using old outdate compiled binary stuff is crap |
| 23:46.53 | AOK | well I know |
| 23:46.55 | woglinde | get the source code and make a fine package out of it |
| 23:47.17 | AOK | I am too noob |
| 23:47.18 | AOK | :-( |
| 23:47.28 | woglinde | we all were noobs |
| 23:47.33 | woglinde | try hard to get better |
| 23:47.35 | AOK | for repacking |
| 23:48.05 | Cas07 | nice slogan "we all were noobs" :D |
| 23:48.37 | woglinde | *g* |
| 23:48.51 | Cas07 | oh noz my enter and backspace key have suffered from tea attack!! |
| 23:48.55 | AOK | neither |
| 23:49.09 | AOK | "root" nor "rootsh" works |
| 23:49.17 | woglinde | apt-get install rootsh |
| 23:49.20 | woglinde | sudo gainroot |
| 23:49.24 | AOK | ye ye ye |
| 23:49.28 | AOK | did that ;-) |
| 23:49.38 | woglinde | enable extras |
| 23:49.43 | woglinde | in programmanger |
| 23:49.47 | AOK | as I said prior to runnung the dbclient |
| 23:49.54 | AOK | I got the root access |
| 23:50.31 | pupnik | javispedro: do you plan to pursue the rendering in .25 or does it look like a bad path? |
| 23:50.37 | AOK | but then I have the # sign |
| 23:50.38 | AOK | ;-) |
| 23:51.06 | javispedro | pupnik: you mean the hildon scaling stuff? |
| 23:51.10 | pupnik | yes |
| 23:51.12 | javispedro | i am trying to encapsulate it |
| 23:51.17 | javispedro | just now trying to decide how... |
| 23:51.27 | pupnik | i don't understand |
| 23:51.41 | javispedro | basically, you need to render your stuff to a window not managed by sdl |
| 23:51.50 | pupnik | ah |
| 23:52.02 | pupnik | gtk-pixbuf or smth? |
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| 23:52.13 | javispedro | then send some commands to the window manager indicating rotation, scale, etc. |
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| 23:52.29 | javispedro | I currently use a plain x window on drnok |
| 23:52.41 | Mohan | I was trying to update to the latest 2.2009-51 version from win 7 and software update failed |
| 23:52.58 | javispedro | and of course it looks a bit ugly to have all the sdl code and THEN some xlib code |
| 23:52.59 | timeless_mbp | is ham capable of handling *any* conflicts? |
| 23:53.23 | *** part/#maemo ml-N900 (n=wat@32.159.248.255) |
| 23:53.31 | Mohan | now my n900 is bricked, I've read the docs for flashing using the flasher utility and the bin image file. |
| 23:53.46 | javispedro | pupnik: my current plan is to wrap this into a set of SDL_CreateActor / SDL_FreeActor functions that hide that from you and give you a surface to render to |
| 23:53.54 | javispedro | s/surface/SDL_Surface |
| 23:54.09 | javispedro | but that may still mean some mods to games.. |
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| 23:54.12 | Mohan | when I connect the device in a linux mahcine and hold the U key for a while I see that nokia usb rom connected and followed by usb disconnected |
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| 23:55.05 | pupnik | javispedro: that is GREAT |
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| 23:55.56 | Mohan | http://pastebin.com/m6debb9 |
| 23:56.17 | Mohan | can someone help me here to figure out whats the issue. |
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| 23:56.41 | timeless_mbp | anyone here willing to test something for me? |
| 23:56.44 | ml-mobile | hmm |
| 23:56.48 | pupnik | the advantages for sdk in a vm are serious. i should have run with that from the beginning |
| 23:56.49 | pronto | timeless_mbp: depends |
| 23:56.50 | ml-mobile | there |
| 23:57.12 | timeless_mbp | pronto: http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/bugs-maemo-8288/test.install |
| 23:57.12 | pronto | what do you want tested |
| 23:57.14 | ml-mobile | all of freenode is locked to unregistered users eh? |
| 23:57.21 | javispedro | uh oh, updated libc in lenny |
| 23:57.23 | javispedro | panics |
| 23:57.27 | timeless_mbp | add the repo, install the package, go to app/manager |
| 23:57.33 | timeless_mbp | tap the title area, choose restore |
| 23:57.36 | timeless_mbp | tap restore |
| 23:57.39 | pronto | timeless_mbp: what is it? |
| 23:57.42 | Chiku | someone else already install adblock? |
| 23:57.55 | timeless_mbp | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8288 |
| 23:58.05 | Mohan | Is this the room to ask support for n900 flashing ? |
| 23:58.06 | javispedro | povbot: pin |
| 23:58.07 | Chiku | that's making me creazy |
| 23:58.07 | javispedro | povbot: ping |
| 23:58.11 | javispedro | povbot`: ping |
| 23:58.16 | javispedro | heh. |
| 23:59.05 | pronto | timeless_mbp: added |
| 23:59.09 | pronto | wella dding |
| 23:59.40 | Mohan | javispedro: I've got my n900 bricked. I'm trying to reflash it but i dont see the usb logo screen as mentioned in the document |
| 23:59.50 | pronto | timeless_mbp: added now |
