IRC log for #maemo on 20090926

00:00.12pupnikah well
00:00.21lcuk2i have that video
00:00.26lcuk2some is with device
00:00.30lcuk2some was with a crappeh cam
00:00.37ShadowJKhm
00:00.55lcuk2where in there are you seeing aliasing
00:01.10SpeedEvilErr - video out = interlaced/
00:01.29SpeedEviloh
00:01.30lcuk2is hearing more of his voice
00:01.36ShadowJK00:07 for example
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00:01.57lcuk2that looks like digital editing
00:02.04lcuk2or i had a fit
00:02.16lcuk2take your pick
00:02.17SpeedEvilis hearing a jagged repeating loop of audio 0.4 seconds long
00:02.25SpeedEvilhas a broken sound system.
00:02.36ShadowJKlcuk2, even if you had a fit it wouldn't look like that
00:02.46ShadowJKIt's two frames interleaved together
00:03.01ShadowJKeven lines from one frame, odd lines from another frame...
00:03.03ShadowJK:/
00:03.03smackpotatoput a marble on the stylus
00:03.28lcuk2ShadowJK, thats probably mixing pieces together
00:03.58ShadowJKIt did it over the entire sequence until a "scene cut" atleast
00:04.13ShadowJKI just hope the n900 doesn't really produce that video
00:04.28ShadowJKand that it was only the author that butchered it afterwards somehow
00:05.11lcuk2i can see where he spliced bits together and thats the only time it does the interlacing that i can see
00:05.19lcuk2theres another one right at the end to fade to black
00:05.34lcuk2thinks he did a good job at it actually
00:07.02ShadowJKoh it goes from view of projected screen to view of n900?
00:07.21ShadowJKSo it was his software the added the fugly then :)
00:08.11ShadowJKI don't usually notice or mind tearing, but interlacing is like tearing on every second line :)
00:08.20lcuk2hah
00:08.31lcuk2enjoyed time in london :)
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00:12.14ShadowJKthat liqflow video is awesome :)
00:13.10lcuk2liqflow works on n810 too :) just without the accelerometer
00:13.27lcuk2i should have a package out in time for the summit
00:19.01woglindehm
00:19.21woglindelcuk where do you live again?
00:19.33lcuk2manchester england
00:19.36woglindehm oh
00:20.09woglindecambridge is to far
00:20.09lcuk2for what
00:20.09pupnikhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KxjVlaLBmk&NR=1  BEST ROBOT HAND EVER
00:20.25woglindetalking and drinking a beer
00:20.28woglindeafter oedem
00:21.25lcuk2are you coming to the summit
00:21.36woglindeno
00:22.01Firebirdwow, nice find pupnik , incredibly fast
00:22.58lcuk2we have spoken about this robot before i showed you the ball thing, the other features are new tho :O
00:23.48lcuk2:( woglinde
00:24.46lcuk2woglinde, where is the full oedem pages
00:25.04lcuk2i get hrw's when i search (not a bad thing :))
00:25.09woglindehttp://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Oedem/2009
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00:26.43lcuk2:D
00:26.49lcuk2a typically english devcamp
00:26.57woglindeyeah hrw will be there too
00:27.10woglindeI am flying with him from berlin
00:28.12lcuk2nods, poke him and say hiya if we do not cross paths at the summit
00:29.57woglindeokay
00:29.57woglindebed now
00:29.57woglindegood nite
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00:33.25ShadowJKWhat did he say, 128x128 camera? :)
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00:43.52ShadowJKrobots need to be scary, and look like they'd be useless at anything except breaking your arm, like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO9th_Rfk2o
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00:45.52lcuk2ShadowJK, it dropped the drill
00:45.59lcuk2you could kick it over
00:46.07ShadowJK:)
00:47.17ShadowJKI think it can get up
00:48.39SpeedEvilhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHuDvVa7mkw
00:48.40lcuk2runs
00:49.49lcuk2clever!
00:50.08lcuk2each does the best it can to sort and organise
00:50.14lcuk2and doesnt actually worry if it misses
00:50.18lcuk2the other gets em
00:50.21lcuk2i like that!
00:51.13lcuk2what am impressive system, thanks SpeedEvil
00:51.46ShadowJKWhat, you'd run after it?
00:52.00lcuk2away from your scary one
00:52.06lcuk2the picker one i want to implement
00:52.23lcuk2anyway
00:52.24lcuk2bedtime
00:52.28lcuk2gnite chaps
00:53.02ShadowJKno I mean, you'd run after the sausage you missed?
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01:00.44Firebirdlcuk2, is the pic button in the menu in liqbase-playgroud supposed to close the program?
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02:50.22luke-jrMarvell 88F6192 chipset seems pretty open :o
03:11.50FirebirdHmm, odd, I can't get the onscreen keyboard or the auto-complete bar to open/display
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03:34.44pupniki can't get it to stop capitalizing my passwords
03:35.18Firebirdbah, I think scim broke my onscreen keyboard
03:36.03pupnikscim?
03:36.11Firebirdchinese character support
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04:37.10pupnikmoo
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04:39.07vladovghawe a qeston
04:39.46vladovgdid exist some home scrin plug in like the internet radio
04:40.04vladovgbuth to play the mp3 from GUI player
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04:56.28vladovg?
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04:56.50MaceN8x0bones just isnt that good anymore
04:57.45luke-jrneither r u
04:58.17MaceN8x0gentoo sucks
04:58.22MaceN8x0:-P
05:00.12vladovghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIiP7D3cg7Y&feature=response_watch
05:00.43vladovgwatch this and pause on the 0:40
05:00.49microlithMaceN8x0: no way, I love it when glib changes and I have to re-emerge my entire OS
05:01.06vladovgwat is thet applet
05:01.17vladovgon the botton rigth
05:01.46vladovgunder the clock applet
05:01.47vladovg?
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05:02.31vladovgis the applet for the FM radio on the 800
05:02.32vladovg?
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05:06.21RST38hmoos
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05:31.00pupnikvladovg: n800 comes with an internet-radio capable stream player - mediaplayer
05:31.10pupnikyou can also get 'streamtuner' running on n800 iirc
05:31.25pupnikusually i just mplayer [url] for an http radio stream
05:31.34pupniknot sure what to do about mms:///
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08:02.19benson_Good morning
08:02.49benson_Hi all. Is there a better solution about a2pd on N810 now?
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08:05.40RST38hBensons. They breed.
08:06.57zerojaylol
08:08.03bensongood morning
08:10.01bensonI have a bluetooch headphones. But N810 doesn't support a2pd :(
08:11.09zerojayNope, it doesn't.
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08:11.47zerojaySomeone had a solution but it was with 3rd party media players. I've never used it personally.
08:12.09zerojayGlad it's not a problem on N900.
08:12.11bensonHow can I use a2pd on N810?
08:12.29zerojaysearch for a2pd on tmo.
08:12.45bensontmo?
08:12.47zerojayThe solution was there.
08:12.49zerojaytalk.maemo.org
08:13.15benson"http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=111634" That's what I found.
08:13.53zerojayYeah, that's it.
08:14.09bensonIt seems that CPU usage is ~50% at 320MHz!
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08:14.27RST38hbenson: You need lardman
08:14.37RST38hbenson: And yes, it will waste your battery
08:14.50*** topic/#maemo by qwerty12 -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:14.50RST38huses HSP headphones with N810, they work
08:14.59zerojaySuch is life. Battery's the main reason it probably wasn't done on the N810 orginally.
08:15.04qwerty12Any mods around? This cunt set the topic to the same shit yesterday.
08:15.04zerojayoriginally.
08:15.15qwerty12*OPs
08:15.20*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:15.26*** topic/#maemo by qwerty12 -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:15.28zerojayUgh.
08:15.33RST38hqwerty: How can he set the topic not being an op?
08:15.47doc|home+t is not set
08:15.56RST38hOh...Then set the fucking +t
08:15.57qwerty12RST38h: Anyone can set the topic. Look at me - I'm changing it back and I'm not an op
08:15.59*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:16.13*** topic/#maemo by qwerty12 -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:16.18RST38hqwerty: and only enable setting topic through the bot
08:16.20bensonzerojay: Is there a better solution?
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08:16.27zerojaybenson: Not that I know of.
08:16.47bensonRST38h: And is there a better solution?
08:16.50RST38hbenson: there are exactly two solutions, one uses cpu, another uses dsp (lardman's)
08:16.53*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:17.02RST38hbenson: neither is perfect, both will suck the battery dry
08:17.07*** topic/#maemo by doc|home -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
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08:17.29RST38hqwerty: Can infobot ban the bastard?
08:17.37qwerty12RST38h: infobot can't do shit
08:17.47bensonRST38h: Where can I find lardman's solution?
08:17.49RST38hBad, bad idea not to have a bot here
08:17.50zerojayDoes no one have control over ChanServ?
08:17.59RST38hbenon: talk.maemo.org, google
08:18.04bensonOK
08:18.12RST38hhas no idea how it works on freenode
08:18.30doc|homeGeneralAntilles: X-Fade Jaffa can you ban this numpty please?
08:18.46RST38hOn EFNet or IRCNet, the channel bots would already ban the guy
08:19.11ccookeRST38h: you tend not to get so much arseholery here
08:19.45RST38hccooke: Still, having security never hurts
08:20.40*** topic/#maemo by ccooke -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
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08:20.59*** topic/#maemo by qwerty12 -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:21.24*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:21.29*** topic/#maemo by ccooke -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:21.42ccookeProblem with this is, it kills discussion :-/
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08:22.07RST38hccooke: doesn't, unless you get a ban-happy admin
08:22.09*** topic/#maemo by qwerty12 -> Cut-R's mère BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:22.34ccookeRST38h: no, I mean the fact that the channel's full of topic change
08:23.20RST38hah that...yes
08:23.38ccookeso... do we know anyone with access to chanserv here?
08:23.42RST38hHow do I look up the names of network admins?
08:23.45ccookethere should be at least one person
08:23.54qwerty12RST38h: /msg chanserv access #maemo list
08:23.59RST38haha
08:24.18*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:24.31tank-manso ccooke is the asshole in here?
08:24.40qwerty12No, that would be Cut-R :)
08:24.42RST38hNot good...
08:24.43zerojaytank-man: Uh.. no.
08:24.54zerojayHe's changing the topic to the same on #lisp.
08:25.02RST38hit's some bot
08:25.49qwerty12Oh, incidentally, if this chan is looking for OPs that are actually awake, I'm available
08:26.00mavhcif only there were a way to stop people changing the topic
08:26.15zerojayThere is but only an op can enable topic protection.
08:26.18ccookeqwerty12: if you op yourself, you can deal with the bot, then
08:26.32RST38hqwerty: you know what to do.
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08:26.40qwerty12ccooke: No, my English sucks... I meant that if #maemo needs new OPs
08:26.42mavhcsorry, did I not use the sarcasm font?
08:26.46ccookeahh
08:27.23fralsgod i slept on my ear so its burning like ive spent a whole day in the sun without any sunscreen
08:27.42ccookeWe need one of: GeneralAntilles, Jaffa, X-Fade
08:27.50ccookethose are the names on the bot's list
08:27.57ccookeoh, and freenode-staff
08:28.27fralsisn't there like a #feds chan where one could get help?
08:28.32ccooke(there are a few others too, but they're hostmasks - no nicks)
08:28.51ccookeusually, yes. I'm looking up its name on freenode
08:28.52qwerty12Maybe one could ask in #freenode
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08:29.27ccookebtw: list ops: /msg ChanServ ACCESS #foo LIST
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08:30.43lbtI let them know in #freenode
08:31.03lbtwhen an op arrives they'll deal with it
08:31.33ErrantEgolbt: feel free to change it back to the old topic
08:31.48ErrantEgolbt, etc in here: when an op arrives, have them set the channel +t
08:31.52ErrantEgoexplain to them what happened
08:32.00*** topic/#maemo by slonopotamus -> Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:32.03*** topic/#maemo by ccooke -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:32.09ccookesorry
08:32.13slonopotamusi guess we need more ops
08:32.15ErrantEgotopic change fight?
08:32.16ErrantEgolol.
08:32.23lbtthanks ErrantEgo
08:32.31slonopotamus3 out of 300ppl is pretty few
08:32.41ErrantEgolbt: np
08:32.48ccookeslonopotamus: there are more, I just don't recognise the nicks
08:32.50fralshehe
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08:33.00*** topic/#maemo by qwerty12 -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:33.03ErrantEgowe've yet to see any other complaints..
08:33.09ccookeand I don't have the screen space for the who commands right now:-)
08:33.14ErrantEgoCut-R: you should knock it off.
08:33.21zerojayErrantEgo: They were doing the same in #lisp, but there was an op there.
08:33.21lbtah ErrantEgo, that's the problem; he just changes it right back
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08:33.42*** topic/#maemo by ccooke -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:33.51mavhcyou want an ircop
08:34.05ccookegiven that Cut-R is changing the topic exactly once per minute, I'd call it a bot...
08:34.21ErrantEgomavhc: freenode staff arent allowed to actively do anything in a channel without them being on the channel's access list
08:34.22aquatixonce every 30 sec
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08:34.50slonopotamussame problem in #ubuntu
08:34.51aquatixErrantEgo: can't you invite them here
08:35.00mavhckline the user for spamming, triv
08:35.03tank-manits steve ballmer, he is mad about win mobile
08:35.03ccookeaquatix: not unless time's running faster for you than everyone else :-)
08:35.04ErrantEgoaquatix: the staff can join under their own power
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08:35.21ErrantEgoaquatix: however, they arent allowed to do anything in such channels unless they are on the access list
08:35.30ccookeErrantEgo: they're onthe list herwe
08:35.49ccooke/msg chanserv access #maemo list
08:35.57ErrantEgohm
08:36.01ccooke09:27 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- 10    freenode-staff         +voOtsriRfAF
08:36.05aquatixyeah, wasn't specifically talking about using /invite , but i thought maybe if they are here, they can change things
08:37.03slonopotamusthat's just fail.
08:37.12*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:37.33slonopotamusi suggest increasing number of ops to 5% at least after this incident is fixed
08:37.48ccookeslonopotamus: good call.
08:38.01ErrantEgoccooke: i was just made aware that freenode-staff != *@freenode/staff/*
08:38.13slonopotamushehe :)
08:38.17ccookeah, how useful
08:38.45ErrantEgoccooke: so, to have them be able to do things in here, *!*@freenode/staff/* needs to be added
08:38.54RST38hehehe
08:39.13RST38hanyway is there some special channel where freenode staff stays?
08:39.19ccookeokay, then. can someone with more screen space do the list command I used and check the other six ops? one might be around but not looking at channel
08:39.25qwerty12They can still k-line the cunt, right? I mean he seems to be insulting Freenode; not Maemo...
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08:40.32*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
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08:41.20fralsccooke: i did a /who on the complete masks and didnt get any hit
08:41.21*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
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08:41.33*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
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08:41.41*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
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08:41.52*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
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08:41.56*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
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08:42.14*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:42.15*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:42.16tank-manThis reminds me of a new movie trailer I saw, the invention of lying. This is like cut-r has invented spam in here, the first guy to do it
08:42.18*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
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08:42.22*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:42.24*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:42.26*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:42.29*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:42.30*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:42.35ccooke*sigh*
08:42.42mavhcthis isn't helping
08:42.44aquatixi second that *sigh*
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08:42.48*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:42.54*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:43.04ErrantEgoshrugs
08:43.06ErrantEgoi know...
08:43.08ErrantEgook, i am backlogged and laggeed
08:43.10ErrantEgotheres not much more you can really do until an op shows up
08:43.18lbtheh
08:43.26ErrantEgoCut-R: get a fucking life.
08:43.28lbtopen invite to #mer ;)
08:43.28ErrantEgoCut-R: do your fucking homework.
08:43.31ccookeOkay. Has anyone messaged the ops we *do* know about?
08:43.39ccooke(don't want to do it more than once)
08:44.08lbtErrantEgo: what command sets the channel +t ?
08:44.08ErrantEgoi do know its got to be a kid.
08:44.14mavhcemail his isp with threats of libel
08:44.21frals/mode #maemo +t
08:44.22ErrantEgoadults with a brain in their head wouldnt do something like this
08:44.27lbtfrals: ta
08:44.31ErrantEgonods at frals
08:44.32aquatixThough it's not a support  channel, you're most likely to find freenode volunteers on the staff social channel, #defocus.
08:44.38aquatixmaybe that helps/
08:44.39aquatix?
08:44.42RST38hSome other time, I would say flood him off the Net, but it no longer works
08:44.44ccookeErrantEgo: I like your optimism and wish I had cause to share it.
08:44.51ErrantEgoaquatix: staff coverage is light right now
08:44.53ErrantEgobecause of the time of day
08:44.59RST38hFlooding a cable connection will be problematic
08:45.00aquatixit's almost noon :P
08:45.08aquatixbut indeed :(
08:45.10ErrantEgohere, its going on 5 AM
08:45.18aquatixyeah, i know
08:45.23RST38hHeffalump is right, we need more ops
08:45.24mavhcnot really, but it's not a great thing to suggest
08:45.44RST38hOr, alternatively, more ChanServ users
08:45.48*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
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08:46.57*** topic/#maemo by Myrtti -> Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:47.11*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:47.12aquatixhey Myrtti :)
08:47.12*** topic/#maemo by Myrtti -> Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
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08:47.20*** topic/#maemo by Myrtti -> Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:47.25*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:47.26*** topic/#maemo by Myrtti -> Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:47.30*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:47.32*** topic/#maemo by Myrtti -> Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:47.36*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:47.37Myrttiohai Gary
08:47.38*** topic/#maemo by Myrtti -> Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:47.42*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:47.44*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:47.45*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:47.49*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:47.51*** topic/#maemo by Myrtti -> Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:47.52*** topic/#maemo by ErrantEgo -> Topic for #maemo: Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:47.52lbtit may be better to leave the topic
08:47.55*** topic/#maemo by Cut-R -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
08:48.17fralsid say so as well
08:48.32MyrttiGary: so you came to see the turmoil
08:48.41aquatixyeah, the big original topic makes the conversation scroll offscreen quick
08:48.42aquatixoh :D
08:48.43*** topic/#maemo by Myrtti -> Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
08:48.49aquatixand there was much rejoicing
08:48.50ErrantEgoyay
08:48.52Myrttihuggles Gary
08:48.53ErrantEgoasshat.
08:49.17ccookewell, that's a relief
08:49.25aquatixindeed
08:49.40aquatixgood job on the arrow-up-enter buttons people :)
08:49.57ErrantEgoit makes a mess out of the channel though
08:50.01mavhcif only nokia chat had that
08:50.01ErrantEgothats the only down-side
08:50.02aquatixtrue
08:50.02ErrantEgo:(
08:50.19RST38hKILL KILL DESTROY
08:50.42ccookeRST38h: no crushing?
08:50.54lbtno *pussycats* ?
08:51.02aquatix*g*
08:51.09Myrtti*rolleyes*
08:51.11RST38hpreceding your next question, no rape either
08:51.24ccookelbt: there will always be time for pussycats. Rest assured.
08:51.28lbtoi... my cat is watching...
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08:51.35RST38hheya lardman
08:51.36lardmanmorning
08:51.39lbtwiggles cursor to distract her
08:51.44RST38hyou missed all the action
08:51.45Myrttiyou missed all the fun, lardman
08:51.56lardmanhmm, shall I check the logs then?
08:52.13RST38hnot worth it
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08:52.44RST38hif you want entertainment, check out the tmo thread with Eldar coming out of the closet
08:53.03lardmanoh, cut-r again?
08:53.43lardmanhmm, not sure I can stomach tmo at this time of the morning
08:54.08RST38hit is entertaining though, at least for an armchair shrink
08:54.19qwerty12lardman: Looking at the time, that doesn't say much... :p
08:54.47lardmanweekend :p
08:55.18lardmanat least I thought it was....
08:55.58RST38his dumping several gigabytes of logs
08:56.51lardmanRST38h: burn them if they are dry
08:57.10qwerty12will blame RST38h for the breakdown of Moscow's sewage system
08:57.20RST38hYes...but first, some coprology...
08:57.21lardmanlol
08:57.34zerojaylol
08:57.34lardmanah, tmo here I come....
08:57.54RST38hqwerty: Been done just this morning, right next to the Kremlin
08:58.22RST38hqwerty: I am afraid the jet was lower than the natural gas one (in May) and less spectacular
08:58.32lardmanyuck
08:58.34qwerty12hehe
08:58.47lardmansure it was pretty craptacular is you were nearby ;)
08:58.56lardmans/is/if
08:59.00RST38hOk, ok, it was just a water main
08:59.02lardmanthe typos start afresh
08:59.11frals*going through 30 topics of unread posts* I knew it was too early to go to bed last night!
08:59.16RST38hDon't get your hopes too high
08:59.21lardmanah ok, I was thinking a methane + other "stuff" explosion from the sewer
09:01.43lardmanpages and pages.....
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09:01.57RST38hjust limit yourself to eldar thread
09:02.06RST38hin terms of hilarity it beats the rest
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09:05.33fralslol
09:05.35fralshere we go again
09:05.37Standley;-)
09:06.16ErrantEgoStandley: don't evade bans.
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09:06.30*** topic/#maemo by frals -> Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
09:06.43lardmanhow do you ban him?
09:06.49lardmansays I need to be a channel op to do that
09:06.56RST38hlardman: Normally you would have to have an op for that
09:07.00RST38hOr ChanServ access
09:07.15lardmanor even better work our his ip and send a ping of death
09:07.23RST38hWhen General or Jaffa or XFade are online, we should ask them to add more people to ChanServ
09:07.26lardmanand angel if the ping doesn't work
09:07.34RST38hlardman: No longer works, this has been years ago
09:07.40mavhcalso, noone has any idea what the hell you're complaining about
09:07.48lardmanworks again in Win7 so I hear
09:07.53lardmannot the same one mind you
09:08.31RST38hah
09:08.44lardmanwell DoS then :)
09:08.56lardmanbut angel of death sounds equally good
09:09.08*** topic/#maemo by Standley -> FREENODE BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS D'ENFANTS ABUSEURS D'INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
09:09.11*** join/#maemo Gary (i=gary@freenode/staff/colchester-lug.gary)
09:09.14RST38hI think he is using cable IP, so DOSing will be a problem
09:09.17RST38hGary: Standley
09:09.18*** topic/#maemo by Myrtti -> Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
09:09.25qwerty12lardman: I've got some tools here, I'll try them with your IP first, tell me if they work
09:09.31lardmanoi!
09:09.32fralsqwerty12: :D
09:09.39slonopotamusqwerty12, :D
09:09.43Myrttiplease don't suggest DoSing anyone :-(
09:09.56mavhcin public
09:10.02RST38hyes, in public...
09:10.07lardmanpicks up his bag of "tools" and gets on the train to London....
09:10.11Myrttiwrongdoings of others do not justify yours
09:10.19StandleyGary & jayne <- ALL STAFF OF FREENODE ARE PEDOPHILE !!! FREENODE IS NOT FREENODE BUG JAILNODE OR TRAPNODE !!! WARNING !!!
09:10.21StandleyGary & jayne <- ALL STAFF OF FREENODE ARE PEDOPHILE !!! FREENODE IS NOT FREENODE BUG JAILNODE OR TRAPNODE !!! WARNING !!!!
09:10.23StandleyGary & jayne <- ALL STAFF OF FREENODE ARE PEDOPHILE !!! FREENODE IS NOT FREENODE BUG JAILNODE OR TRAPNODE !!! WARNING !!!
09:10.26StandleyGary & jayne <- ALL STAFF OF FREENODE ARE PEDOPHILE !!! FREENODE IS NOT FREENODE BUG JAILNODE OR TRAPNODE !!! WARNING !!!!
09:10.28StandleyGary & jayne <- ALL STAFF OF FREENODE ARE PEDOPHILE !!! FREENODE IS NOT FREENODE BUG JAILNODE OR TRAPNODE !!! WARNING !!!
09:10.31RST38hHmm, this thing is a not a bot
09:10.34Myrttiboring
09:10.41RST38hNot human either, so yes, boring
09:10.43ccookeRST38h: it is a bot.
09:10.56ccookejust one that's configurable, I think
09:11.03mavhcwell, after that overwheling evidence I'm convinced
09:11.16RST38hccooke: If someone is configuring it every 30 seconds, then it is not a bot =)
09:11.26fralswow that sentence he spammed did not make any sense until i replaced the 'bug' with a 'but' :P
09:11.49mavhcif you only say something once it's obviously not true, but if someone repeats it a lot it must be, I learned that watching american news
09:11.54lardmanI wonder who the vendetta is against
09:12.03ccookeRST38h: We could have a long philoophical discussion about where you draw the line between bot and not-bot...
09:12.10RST38hlardman: The World!
09:12.11ccookelardman: Freenode. HTH, HAND
09:12.23lardmanand Gary and Jayne of course
09:12.36RST38hlardman: As it often happens, it may simply be the lack of sex
09:12.37Garywhat did I do :'(
09:13.11RST38hGary: Badmouthed the Lord of Darkness? =)
09:13.36ErrantEgoGary: you killed him
09:13.40ErrantEgoGary: you bastard!
09:13.40RST38hccooke: My stand is that anyone not able to maintain conversation on an arbitrary topic is a bot
09:13.41ErrantEgo;p
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09:13.56RST38hccooke: This, of course, makes large swath of US population bots.
09:14.00mavhcor a bit thick
09:14.01lardmanlol
09:14.05ccookeRST38h: I'd point out that this would rule out many tech... oh, you said it
09:14.16RST38hccooke: Not that tech...
09:14.22RST38hnot ONLY, I meant
09:14.44ccooke(tech: was to be technically)
09:14.53RST38hAh
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09:15.42RST38hwonders if BeyondCompare can handle 2GB+2GB of logs
09:17.17mavhcmaybe you need beyondbeyondcompare
09:18.56RST38hI have got the super duper Perl script for that
09:19.25GaryI wonder what a /kline ErrantEgo would do
09:19.35ErrantEgoOH NOES
09:19.44ErrantEgohides
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09:22.44lardmanI'm losing the will to live reading about Eldar or whatever his name is
09:23.52lardmanwasn't he an elf or something?
09:25.04lcuk2then ignore it
09:25.13lardmanI have
09:25.23lcuk2apart from mentioning it :P
09:25.27lcuk2and worryign
09:25.30lcuk2and needing more wine
09:25.33lardmanam looking at SU-33W now
09:25.37lcuk2o_O
09:25.44lardmannah, just commenting
09:25.58lcuk2ofc :D
09:26.27lcuk2thinks lardman feeds the trolls bacon :P
09:26.32lcuk2i know i do
09:26.45MyrttiBACON!
09:26.53RST38hlardman: this has to be builtin =)
09:26.55lardmannah, given up feeding trolls
09:27.00qwerty12lcuk2: This is the food product that you're referring to, right?
09:27.07lardmanRST38h: support for it you mean?
09:27.13RST38hno, the hw
09:27.31lcuk2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D98VWrApW4M
09:27.32lardmanit's BT isn't it?
09:27.40lcuk2yerga posted about pyrecipe
09:27.45RST38hit is an extra gadget in your pocket. has to be builtin
09:27.47lcuk2and bacon is high on list
09:28.05lardmanRST38h: "should be" you mean?
09:28.52RST38hlardman: or ought to be
09:28.56lardmanhmm, no DVB-H near my anyway
09:28.58lcuk2is there some sort of batsignal call together method that i could get people with n900s into one place
09:29.00lardmanRST38h: ok
09:29.06lcuk2i dont know who would come to such a thing
09:29.07RST38hlardman: same here, no dvb-h
09:29.23RST38hlcuk: You know there is
09:29.51lcuk2do i ?  which irc channel then i wonder
09:30.18RST38hlcuk: I know how to do it
09:30.33lardman<PROTECTED>
09:30.40RST38hlcuk: Ask qwerty to port XChat to Fremantle =)
09:30.41qwerty12RST38h: By asking Eldar? ;p
09:30.53RST38hqwerty: By asking YOU!
09:30.55RST38h;)
09:31.22lcuk2"help me qwerty 13, you're my only hope"
09:31.27lcuk2:O 13
09:31.30RST38hqwerty: And specially for Fremantle port, set /quit messages to "IRCing from N900 right NOW"
09:31.32lcuk2he grew up
09:31.37lcuk2lololol
09:31.39RST38hLet'em wonder
09:31.58qwerty12RST38h: You port it, you know what you're doing :p
09:32.02RST38hActually increment the 900 number every month by 10
09:32.23RST38hqwerty: I am comparing 4GB of VAX execution traces.
09:32.40qwerty12A straight build of the Diablo version suffices for me; with the amount of menu options it has, good luck making it use a HildonAppMenu instead
09:32.55lcuk2RST38h, the problem with that is
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09:33.04RST38hqwerty: Forget hildonappmenu, just use a stackablewindow
09:33.22lcuk2the n900 wont ever quit
09:33.31RST38hqwerty: btw, VGBA options miraculously fit hildonappmenu, just barely
09:33.45qwerty12Cool
09:34.00qwerty12With Transmission, I just removed a ton of them and put them on the toolbar/tap and hold menu
09:34.08RST38hbut 1-2 more options and I will have to get perverse
09:34.17qwerty12The HIG did say after all for me not to "repeat myself" :p
09:34.36RST38hqwerty: Old style menus also work, they are just not as cute
09:34.55qwerty12I'm not so keen on them in Fremantle, I must admit
09:35.12RST38hyea, whoever designed the UI for Fremantle was...mmm...wrong.
09:35.23qwerty12After using my N800 and N810 with a stylus all the time, not having to use one with the N900 is nice
09:35.50RST38hbut the layouts!!!
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09:36.27RST38hI mean, the idea was to find a solution that maximizes screen estate usage while allowing for finger input
09:36.51RST38hThey solved #2 all right, but the number #1 got completely forgotten in the process
09:37.44qwerty12#1 is probably let down with dialogs and the response buttons for it being on the right, but there's ways around that
09:38.16RST38hlike not using the dialogs yes
09:38.27RST38hthe appmenu is also guilty of ignoring #1
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09:38.34qwerty12Precisely ;)
09:38.51RST38hqwerty: I have got an idea of how to stick XChat menus into appmenu
09:39.10RST38hqwerty: Hildon has got that horizontal "filter" control
09:39.36RST38hqwerty: Use it as the top level of the menus, and change the actual menu when the filter is changed
09:40.23qwerty12The menu closes when you select a filter, however. It's a bit anal-retentive to have to keep opening it up again :)
09:41.09RST38hoh
09:41.29RST38hmaybe if you do it quickly, nobody will notice? =)
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09:42.27qwerty12Heh. True, that could probably passed off...
09:42.37qwerty12+be
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09:49.26lcuk2ive got too many icons on my desktop
09:50.43lcuk2qwerty12, btw, more northern accent
09:50.45lcuk2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r8JJkDv7hw
09:51.08qwerty12oh god
09:51.12lcuk2:D
09:51.18lcuk2no subtitles either
09:51.56lcuk2and i use my stylus :O
09:52.09qwerty12heh
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09:52.32lcuk2my god it has portrait mode usage too
09:52.32lcuk2:D
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09:54.21lcuk2oh crap, ive gotta find a function i wrote a lonnnnnnng time ago
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09:57.41lardmanwhen I pass a gstreamer bus message, does it make a copy of the data I'm passing through it?
09:57.56lardmani.e. shall I then free the string I'm trying to pass?
09:58.25lcuk2usually yes
09:58.45lcuk2but if it crashes, no
09:59.00lardmanuseful as ever :p
09:59.05lcuk2ie, just try it
09:59.13lcuk2you are normally in control of your own allocation
09:59.14lardmanyeah
09:59.27lcuk2and when functions get strings they expect to deal with themselves
09:59.39lardmanthey usually make copies
09:59.45lcuk2nods
10:00.00slonopotamuslardman, what docs say?
10:00.11lcukslonopotamus, dont swear :P
10:01.41lardmanslonopotamus: dunno, will take some digging for GStreamer, will look in a bit
10:02.02lardmanjust thought I'd ask and see if anyone happened to know
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10:07.51Myrttieldar thread OLOLOLOL
10:08.17aSIMULAtermass pwnage?
10:09.37RST38ha catarsis!
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10:20.01igagisHi!
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10:21.26lcukhi igagis \o
10:21.32igagisbeta-testing of new theremin release is going on, thanks to testers a number of bugs was fixed, now version 1.4.0-4 is available in extras-devel, there I added 2 new instrument voices: Trombone and Clarinet. You are welcome to beta-test!
10:21.43igagislcuk: hi :-)
10:22.04lcukigagis, which backend does theramin use
10:22.07lcukcannot remember
10:22.13igagisit's ALSA
10:22.39lcukdoes that work on fremantle
10:22.55igagisbut I have thoughts to transfer all sound stuff directly to DSP because currently synthesis eats much processor resources
10:23.00igagisI did not try it on fremantle
10:23.38lcukdid you push it to fremantle autobuilder when you sent it up
10:23.47igagisno I did not
10:24.04igagisI'm not even sure it will compile for fremantle without some tweaks
10:24.22lcukdamn!
10:24.30lcukdo you want to try with the next one
10:24.36lcukand then at least you will know
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10:24.47lcukwhen you do, drop into here and shout me, or #liqbase
10:25.13igagiswell, I will definetly try compiling for fremantle someday (I think it will be soon)
10:25.31lcukjust try ticking fremantle next time you send to autobuilder
10:25.32igagisok, I will have you in mind
10:25.37igagisok
10:25.40igagisno problem
10:25.41lcukit will not make the others fail if fremantle doesnt work
10:25.55igagisyes, sure
10:26.06lcukand you can read the error report and see if its something trivial :)
10:26.12lcukyou never know - it might just work too ;)
10:26.23igagisby the way, main feature on 1.4 release is that it allows listening other players who currently plays
10:26.43lcukthat was what i said about ages ago :D excellent
10:26.43igagislcuk: yes, you are right, it worth trying
10:26.56igagis:-)
10:27.18lcukwe were doing some instrumentless jamming the other day
10:27.25lcukcouple of weeks ago now
10:27.27lcukmm time flies
10:27.30lcukhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk27PenpAz0
10:27.32igagisbut at this time I have not much people registered on server, so it is hard to catch someone playing currently
10:28.59lcukthere was a musician at the onedotzero event who it might be good for you to speak with :)
10:29.06igagislcuk: cool, what is that? is that just a music player with visualizations?
10:29.29lcukthe visualization is liqflow - its completely dynamic and the flow is created with finger strokes
10:29.53lcukso you draw and its pulled along
10:29.54igagiscool, and the music is playing is mp3?
10:30.06lcukand the pulsing occurs because of the accelerometer detecting drumming on the desk
10:30.09lcukyeah
10:31.02igagiswhat is the third device which differs from other two? is that a dev-sample of N900?
10:31.24lcukwhat different device?
10:31.36lcuk<obi-wan> they are all the same </obi-wan>
10:32.13igagiso the vide there'are two N900 from left and right and on top of them the third which is slightly different
10:32.42lcukshrugs
10:32.51qwerty12The fugly one is a dev unit, yes
10:34.08igagisqwerty12: cool
10:35.24lcukmmm scaling of colorcube is wrong
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10:44.51RST38hHmmm...Someone is reporting the first N900 in ovi store
10:44.58RST38hn900/n900 game
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11:00.31igagislcuk: I've just pushed theremin to fremantle autobuilder, will see how it goes :-)
11:00.52lcukcool!
11:01.20lcukhopefully we can get some feedback with it
11:03.01lcukbtw igagis this is a presenation i gave a couple of weeks ago showing liqbase on n900
11:03.02lcukhttp://mynokiablog.com/2009/09/15/video-nokia-n900-presentation-with-gary-birkett-and-liqbase/
11:04.13igagislcuk: liqflow is also your creation, right?
11:04.29lcukyeah
11:04.38lcuki explain it in the presenation
11:04.49lcukit responds really nicely to accelerometer
11:05.07lcukand wherever you draw it creates dynamic gravity waves
11:05.07igagisit looks cool
11:05.18lcukyeah you have only seen a tiny bit with big flows
11:05.24lcukit gets really intricate :)
11:05.28igagis:-)
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11:05.46igagisit uses OpenGL directly or do you use Clutter or something?
11:05.55lcukuses liqbase
11:05.57lcukruns on n810
11:06.11lcukliqbase can now also create standalone apps :)
11:06.27igagisit does not use 3d graphics?
11:06.43lcuknope
11:06.53lcuknot yet at least
11:06.59igagisi see
11:07.08igagisis it available for download on n810?
11:07.28lcukyeah the playground is in extras-devel, its a bit raw at the moment tho
11:07.38lcukim not the best coder im just trying to mould ideas with it
11:07.51lcukeverything i show in the presentation is there
11:07.58igagisok, I see
11:08.13igagisI will check it out ;-)
11:08.14lcukand pretty much everything runs well on n810 - cos thats where i designed and optimized it
11:08.40lcukit just runs even better on n900 :D
11:08.53lcukhuggles his shiny slick fremantle device
11:09.09lcuksends aSIMULAter a txt message too :P
11:09.32igagisI've got to go now, bye
11:09.37lcukcya later igagis
11:09.42lcukhave fun
11:15.25lcukplease upvote this proposal :P http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=334172&postcount=243
11:15.28lcukrobot wars!
11:17.01qwerty12looks for the "Anti-Thanks!" button
11:17.43lcuksends crashanddie_ round to say Thanks! to you personally
11:22.54crashanddie_puts on his anti-riot gear before heading to qwerty12's area
11:23.16qwerty12lol
11:23.25lcukqwerty will kick your ass
11:23.41Myrttihrmh
11:23.44lcukhes like the anti-governator
11:23.55lcukhi Myrtti (K) relaxed this morning?
11:25.06lardmangoes mad with pointers to pointers
11:25.38Myrttilcuk: I need to go yank the umbilical cord a bit at mums before flying to UK in a week
11:25.52Myrttinot too intrested, but I guess it has to be done
11:26.03lcukyou could tie it onto the plane
11:26.09lcukand stretch it across europe
11:26.25qwerty12...until lcuk decides to have it fried
11:26.35lcukits not bacon ffs
11:26.44Myrttilcuk: 6 weeks is a long time to stretch it
11:27.40SpeedEvilpasses lcuk a pack of bacon-cure, with instructions.
11:28.56Myrttibah, I should pack my bag
11:30.53lcukreally
11:30.59lcukpacks about 10minutes before leaving
11:31.22Myrttiyeah, I've got 20minutes
11:31.44lcukthats ok then
11:31.47lcukpack twice :D
11:32.19RST38hlcuk: Forget the brain, think of the Weaponry!
11:32.27lcukyeah i know
11:32.36lcukbut we have official reason to make Pusher robots
11:32.45lcukthey will protect us from the terrible secret of space
11:33.00lcukand hopefully wont push grandma downstairs
11:33.31RST38htries think of some practical use of N900
11:33.43RST38hWe have covered barcode scanners already, right?
11:33.49lcuka bit
11:34.07RST38hHow about the whole package delivery system? With barcodes, touch screen notes, signatures, and GPS?
11:34.24lcuksave the alligator, save the world.  http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80752886/
11:34.46lcukthat comes later i think and would be sponsored by fedex ;)
11:35.10lardmantalking about barcodes ;) http://maemo.pastebin.com/m50b954ad
11:36.00RST38hlardman: Now make it go to Amazon and BUY BUY BUY! :)
11:36.12RST38hlaughs demonically
11:36.14lcukhow come google doesnt know isbn
11:36.29lardmanit knows ean
11:36.40lardmanthe 13 digit codes are actually eans
11:36.49lardmanisbn is 10 digit
11:36.49lcukyeah it came back with no results for either
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11:37.06lardmanyou just searched for that barcode?
11:37.09lcukyeah
11:37.40lcukahhh, had to disable safe search "how to improve your sex life with goats"
11:37.42lardmanhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Chickenhawk-Robert-Mason/dp/0552160989/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1253965053&sr=8-1
11:38.17lardman:p
11:38.23lcuk:D
11:38.25qwerty12_N810lcuk: I hear that's a bestseller in the north
11:38.42lcukyeah north east london
11:39.20qwerty12_N810I'm from the east, so...
11:39.31lardmanah, segfault with QR and dmtx and I have to go into town :(
11:39.49lcuknot a prob simon! progress at least is great
11:39.56lardmanyeah
11:39.58Myrttitata kids
11:40.02lcuktake pictures of as many barcodes as you can
11:40.06lardmanc ya Myrtti
11:40.11lcukcya Myrtti
11:40.22lcuklardman, different things you think you want scanning
11:40.26lcukyou can post process later
11:40.28lcuk;)
11:40.57lardmanoh no, I just meant I have to go so can#t fix it now
11:41.00lcukwill try barcode reading from the la sensa modelling show later
11:41.07lcukjust take the camera
11:41.12lcukand take pictures
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11:41.29lcuktest cases in different situations
11:41.39lcukthey will help you to see how easy it is to use :P
11:41.43lcukmornin javispedro \o
11:41.58javispedromorning
11:42.10RST38hheya javis
11:42.23lcuksussed how to get nokia binaries working on sdk :)
11:42.35javispedrolcuk: you're trying sdk!!
11:42.37javispedronow this is news.
11:42.41javispedro;)
11:42.44lcukerrr
11:42.56lcukno - i just took the deb blah blah line from my scratchbox install
11:43.02lcukwhich includes my key thingy
11:43.12lcukand it works on non emulated armel too :)
11:43.22javispedrooh
11:43.24qwerty12_N810So, "SDK"  is your device? >.<
11:43.33lcukLDK
11:43.41javispedroLcuk Development Kit lol
11:43.47qwerty12_N810Losers' development kit?
11:43.51lcuk:D
11:44.15lcukchanges the install message
11:46.21lcukis pleased to see liqbase colorcube reappearing
11:46.27lcukits been too long
11:47.38qwerty12_N810Next time round, will it reappear with the correct spelling of "colour"? :)
11:48.08RST38hOnly if you ask for a special favoUr
11:48.27lbtlcuk: shame on you
11:48.28RST38hAnd lcuk is in his best behavioUr.
11:48.38qwerty12_N810Sure: lcuk, I will arrange it for you to get out of the shithole that is the north
11:48.38lcuklbt mmn?
11:48.50lbtcolorcube .... tssk tssk
11:48.54lcukhaha - you really should stop complaining about the north
11:49.12lcukwithout it, we wouldnt have finland, and without finland you wouldnt have a bloody nXXX
11:49.36lcukinfact, we wouldnt have irc either
11:49.42lcukcos that was invented in oulu
11:50.01lcukis northern and proud :)
11:50.14qwerty12_N810is northern and not proud
11:50.20lcuk(could someone subtitle that rant please)
11:50.30RST38hnoUrthern
11:50.33RST38h=)
11:50.58lcukim actually bored and tired and cold
11:51.00mavhcif you're proud of where you live you haven't studied history enough
11:51.07lcukand i have no cash to buy bacon
11:51.09javispedroso, being a northern is more frowned upon in this channel than being an Android user?
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11:51.26lcukmavhc, the first computer came from manchester
11:51.51mavhcno such thing
11:51.54RST38hjavis: "user" was unnecessary in that sentence
11:51.56lcukhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Computer_(Manchester)
11:52.38javispedro"It was a second-generation computer"
11:52.47qwerty12_N810It says "supercomputer"
11:52.47lcukdamn wrong link
11:52.49lcukthat was later
11:52.50lcukhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Mark_1
11:53.01mavhcnot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Small-Scale_Experimental_Machine ?
11:54.13qwerty12_N810lcuk: Only the Mancunians could make such an anal thing
11:54.20javispedrolols at yesterday's #maemo-pedo story
11:56.00RST38h?
11:56.05mavhcThe Z3 thus became the first functional program-controlled, all-purpose, digital computer, 1941
11:56.17qwerty12_N810RST38h: Cut-R
11:56.22RST38hah
11:56.33mavhcColossus was the first totally electronic computing device, 1943
11:56.35RST38hbecause it happened today for me =)
11:56.49qwerty12_N810Today was pt. 2 :)
11:57.05javispedroah, today's story.
11:57.08javispedro(reading logs)
11:57.30javispedrowe should all move to a xmpp conference rom
11:57.33javispedros/rom/room
11:57.53mavhcThe Atanasoff-Berry Computer was the world's first electronic digital computer, 1939
11:58.43mavhcetc etc
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12:00.05lcuk:D mavhc isnt history great
12:00.23lcukwe have had so many advancements and the acceleration that occured in those decades was fascinating
12:01.54javispedrowhistles Blackadder tune
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12:04.26lcuki still dont know how i could make use of 3d to obtain the rendering stuff i need
12:04.39lcukit recursively includes sections from the rest of the system as required
12:04.46javispedrouh?
12:04.50lcuklike thumbnails are just rerenders of the live stuff
12:04.56javispedroa
12:05.05lcukat a different scale
12:05.07javispedroyou can do that, but I don't know what the performance will be
12:05.12javispedrolcuk: that's not uncommon
12:05.15lcuknot recursively i cant
12:05.25lcukand besides - it can render itself in a thumbnail
12:05.26javispedroMario Kart's 64 "tv screen" comes to mind
12:05.37javispedrolcuk: and portal
12:05.47lcukof course
12:05.58lcukloves portal
12:06.45lcukit just boggles my mind that it can render itself in the scene before its rendered all of its self
12:06.51lcukits fractal and hurts head to ponder
12:08.35lcuki was reading up about pixel and vertex shaders and stuff
12:08.56javispedrothe idea I guess to just render multiple times
12:08.58lcukand i cannot create new geometry with them (i think there is one, but it will be limited by memory i believe
12:09.08lcukmost of the time it doesnt need it
12:09.24lcukbut when im scrolling down an introspective tree of the universe
12:09.31lcuktheres a thumbnail of the treeview im using
12:09.32javispedro:)
12:09.34lcukand its updating
12:09.59lcukit works fine using the liqbase renderer
12:10.14lcukcos that simply renders until theres no pixel left to render onto
12:10.31lcuksmaller scale == much quicker == lots of little things happily even on n8x0
12:10.41javispedroi think there are two ways to do "that"
12:11.27javispedroone is to render the scene many times with varying clipping/stencil
12:11.45javispedrothe other is to do what the compositor does (color buffer to texture or something like that)
12:11.47lcukyeah, it has clipping already
12:11.54lcukthats gonna take lots
12:12.07lcuklook @ this:  its one of the tests of the engine i did in feb
12:12.07lcukhttp://liqbase.net/liq.20090216_004545.lib.scr.png
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12:12.27lcukbottom right is the recursive desktop
12:12.30lcuki can just zoom into it
12:12.37lcukand its fully live and everything else works
12:12.42lcukand includes its own desktop
12:13.19lcukand it carries on to infinity :$
12:13.29javispedrolike infinity?
12:13.34javispedroyou'd have a logic to stop
12:13.40javispedrolike when the area to render < 1x1
12:13.47lcukthe renderer stops
12:13.53lcukbut i can click zoom as far as i want
12:14.01lcukwell, not any more - i stopped that
12:14.07lcukive got a max dive depth
12:14.09javispedroyeah
12:14.19javispedrobut limit yourself to a scene (where talking about the renderer)
12:14.27javispedrosa/where/were
12:14.35lcukyeah so in 3d i build up a texture
12:14.39javispedros/were/we're/
12:14.46lcukbut that bottom right needs to have a texture of the thing im building
12:15.24lcukbtw, there is a glitch in that matrix
12:15.32lcukthe clocks show different times
12:15.45javispedronot a glitch, but because you're rendering it on the fly
12:15.49lcukcos the outside rendering occured a little before the inside one
12:15.49javispedrothus that may happen a guess
12:16.34javispedrowhat I'd do (for example): render the deepest calculated one, reset renderer, render the deepest - 1 one, etc, render the top one
12:16.52javispedrowhich is probably what you're doing already with libliqbase
12:16.59lcukbut how do i know which is which - each tile on the topmost might contain anything else
12:17.07lcukand its only once i render it do i know
12:17.13lcukits just pointer math in the liq* renderer
12:17.17lcukand it "just works"
12:17.37javispedrowell, i don't see how it can work in the opposite direction.
12:17.42javispedro(start rendering the topmost)
12:17.43lcukme neither
12:17.50javispedroI meant!
12:17.52lcukwhich is why im scratching head about using the 3d
12:17.57javispedrowell, i don't see how it can't work in the opposite direction. ;)
12:18.20lcuki would have to do a full render scan first and build up a list of all cells needing rendering
12:18.32lcukthen render them in the order required
12:18.39lcukdependency trees
12:18.49lcukper frame
12:19.01javispedrowell.
12:19.19javispedroi can see a few ways so far.
12:19.51lcukwill take learning more about the powervr :)
12:20.11lcukto see how capable and feasible it is
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12:21.08javispedroand opengl
12:21.12lcukyeah
12:21.27lcuka path will show itself
12:21.35lcukeven if it involves restricting renderdepth
12:21.45javispedrolcuk: but you already do :)
12:21.57lcukyeah
12:22.06lcukbut if i did the same with opengl and stuff
12:22.11lcuki would run out of memory
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12:22.17lcukcos what scale would i render each cell to
12:22.20javispedrowhat I don't know is if you're gonna get any extra performance
12:22.27lcukat the moment, no matter how detailed the scene is
12:22.31javispedrounless you want opengl to do weird rotations to cells
12:22.33lcuki only ever render maximum 800*480
12:22.36javispedrotransitions, etc.
12:22.47lcuknods
12:22.53lcukthat is the *only* reason :)
12:22.59javispedro:)
12:22.59lcuki have strong need for rotation
12:23.11javispedrowell, going to eat something, cy
12:23.23lcukk javis, bon appetite
12:30.04RST38hEhhehehe
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12:45.13keesjslowly getting there http://www.flickr.com/photos/51025379@N00/3954922955/in/set-72157622287431773/ (real push button in the Lego)
12:45.43lcuknice keesj !
12:46.26lcuki dont think your concept will get on a plane tho lol
12:46.53aquatixha
12:46.59lcukloves the lego kit tho
12:47.05keesjthe bomb you mean?
12:47.08aquatixindeed
12:47.10lcukyeah
12:47.39keesjI guess I need to keep is all lego, the nice thing is that I can first make it for the N800 and modify it after
12:47.56lcukyeah
12:48.12lcukits sweet tho and practical
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13:23.39Silveira_NetoHi huys, I just bought a N800, I took the red pill, got root and everything, I'd like to know wich version of Maemo I'm using. A "uname -a" gives me "Linux Nokia-N800-43-7 2.6.21-omap1 #2 Tue Oct 14 11:25:25 EEST 2008 armv6l unknown". Is this the so called OS2008?
13:26.19StskeepsSilveira_Neto: check about product
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13:31.37Silveira_NetoStskeeps, there's some menu or comand line where I can see that?
13:31.57lcukhey Stskeeps thought you were offline all weekend
13:31.58Stskeepscontrol panel
13:32.00lcukor justcant resist
13:32.12Stskeepslcuk, relaxing after a day out
13:32.19Silveira_NetoStskeeps, ok, thx, I will check now.
13:32.26lcuknods
13:32.44StskeepsSilveira_Neto: and compare with wiki.maemo.org/Codenames
13:33.36Silveira_Neto5.2008.43-7
13:33.41Silveira_Netodecember 2008
13:33.51Silveira_Netogood =)
13:35.29Silveira_NetoI'd like to develop some basic hello-world applications to it, and after something using SDL, so I need to compile them using that enviroment using qemu, right?
13:37.30lcukyeah
13:37.35lcukerr
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13:37.44lcukrnot necessarily qemu  - scratchbox
13:38.35lcukhttp://maemo.org/development/
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13:54.51keesjor control pannel -> about product
13:56.41lcuk:D jonathan coulton is comin to manchester
13:56.45lcukshame i cant afford it
13:57.47qwerty12_N810Poor guy. Has anyone told him what he is letting himself in for?
13:58.05lcukyes!
13:59.34mavhche's so famous now he's out of your price range?
14:00.00lcukno, now i havent got a job hes out of my price range
14:00.14lcuklily allen also playing :'(
14:00.28lcukwhy oh why did i have to lose job when cool folks are coming up this way
14:00.35qwerty12_N810Now she should move to Manchester
14:00.40lcukhaha
14:00.52qwerty12_N810Fuck, man, her voice pisses me off
14:00.59lcukhas her on full volume now
14:01.01lcukthe fear
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14:02.26SpeedEvilsics Florence and the Machine on qwerty12_N810.
14:02.35SpeedEvilturns Drumming Song up to 11.
14:03.21qwerty12_N810getitaway!getitaway!
14:04.54mavhcjust wait until the next day and they'll be 117 iphone video recordings of it on youtube
14:05.10iluminator101How could i load maemo5 into a nokie N85?
14:05.47qwerty12_N810By selling the N85 and buying the N900 when it comes out, whenever that is
14:05.59iluminator101ha ha
14:06.32lcukmavhc, recordings of what
14:06.40iluminator101n900 is out of my budget thats why i asked
14:06.46lcukand if i get to either concert i will hopefully post vides from n900 :P
14:07.15iluminator101i am sure you load maemo5 into n85
14:07.21javispedrono.
14:08.49lcukiluminator101, where did you read that?
14:08.57lcukcos thats a small limited device
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14:10.21lcukwould love to try maemo on n97 tho
14:10.31qwerty12_N810Also, considering that the N85 has no touchscreen and all, it would be interesting to try and use it on an N85 :)
14:10.42iluminator101when is n900 available in us
14:10.42lcukits got accelerometer!
14:10.49lcukshrugs
14:10.50lcukdunno
14:11.01lcukno fixed release date announced yet i believe
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14:14.53iluminator101i thought it was out
14:15.08lcukthp, scrolling for the sake of it is silly.  thank you
14:15.16lcukwhere can you buy them from?
14:15.43pupnik_if you save up for n900, at some point your savings and the n900 price will intersect
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14:17.44pupnik_Maemo_Ubuntu_Intrepid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Splitted.zip.001   so downloading this and part 002 yields a working vmdk?
14:18.00lcuki think so
14:18.07lcukzip has spanning
14:18.15DocScrutinizerIs N900 usb capable of powering external devices (e.g. USB-flashstick) when in hostmode? Up to which max current?
14:18.24iluminator101iphone vs n900  http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/9eyag/nokia_n900_vs_iphone_3gs_specs_side_by_side/?sort=new
14:19.03javispedroheh.
14:19.07javispedrothe n900 has no usb host mode.
14:19.19SpeedEvilOr rather - it has no officially working host mode.
14:19.34SpeedEvilExactly if it can be configured to do host mode is a matter of debate AIUI
14:19.49javispedroI still don't know if its a software thing or not
14:20.00DocScrutinizerSpeedEvil: seems that's been same with N810? Still N810 can power up to 100mA afaik
14:20.14lcukn810 has official usb OTG available
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14:22.36SpeedEvilThe closest thing to an official statement is ambiguous if all that will be needed is cable and external hub - or if it's not possible at all.
14:23.03javispedroyeah.
14:23.12javispedroand being the pessimist I am.
14:23.14javispedrowell.
14:23.32DocScrutinizerlogical ostmode should always be possible
14:23.32lcukbah
14:23.35lcukyou are not a pessimist
14:23.45javispedrorealist ;)
14:23.53DocScrutinizerelectrical that's a different story
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14:24.16javispedrogood lock if the controller doesn't cooperate
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14:26.39javispedrootoh, I (and most people) used to think that the usb port on t|x era palms was hardwired to the gadget-only PXA port.
14:26.50javispedroand it wasn't.
14:27.22javispedrothat was kinda a surprise :P
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14:29.17DocScrutinizerI guess the SoC USB port is capable to do its part of OTG, no? So its just a question of auxilary chips like 5V supply and possibly pullup/down
14:29.45SpeedEvilthat is a reasonable guess
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14:35.14javispedrofears the mention of "hw bugs"
14:35.47DocScrutinizerjavispedro: SoC bigs?
14:35.51DocScrutinizerbugs
14:36.09javispedronot sure. I'd pray not.
14:36.17DocScrutinizeryes
14:36.39DocScrutinizeronly thing you can do for SoC
14:36.46DocScrutinizer;-)
14:37.33luke-jrponders if SoC manufacterors, upon learning of a post-production SoC bug, make it available at a discount with that feature "removed"
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14:37.51DocScrutinizerI seem to remember there was a chip bug for Samsung S3C6400 USB2.0 :-/
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14:39.45javispedroon the other side, the pandora & beagle board are using the same SoC series, and the same twl4030
14:40.05javispedroafaik.
14:40.20DocScrutinizerbeagleboard yes, afaik too
14:40.59DocScrutinizerno idea if BB supports OTG though
14:41.07DocScrutinizeror pandora
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14:41.27javispedropandora should.
14:41.34mavhcotg is slightly different from just doing host mode though
14:41.44DocScrutinizeryes, I know
14:41.51javispedrohttp://pandorawiki.org/USB_reference
14:41.53javispedrohas botha
14:41.58javispedroa pure host and a otg one
14:42.13lopzhey
14:42.18DocScrutinizerso probably no chip bug
14:42.45javispedrothe pandora doesn't charge from usb
14:42.52javispedrowell, it does trickle charge
14:43.35javispedro(i mean, no > 500mA stuff)
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14:43.41DocScrutinizercharge is relatively unrelated to hostmode capabilities
14:43.51pupnik_ah kinna break the laws o' Physics, capt'n!@
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14:44.19*** topic/#maemo by Standley -> FREENODE PEDOPHILE VIOLEURS ABUSEURS D'ENFANTS INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
14:44.24qwerty12_N810Lol.
14:44.25javispedroDocScrutinizer: well, from the discussion the would seem to be related.
14:44.34*** topic/#maemo by javispedro -> yessir
14:44.41*** topic/#maemo by Standley -> FREENODE PEDOPHILE VIOLEURS ABUSEURS D'ENFANTS INNOCENTS FILS DE PUTES D'ENCULÉS !!!
14:44.58javispedroah, that's what happened
14:46.36javispedrowell.
14:46.49javispedroI think more info is needed about the topic.
14:47.07javispedrosince I cannot think what could have trhown Nokia into now saying otg is not supported
14:47.14javispedroother than some catastrofic thing
14:49.53lcukcan we get Standley kicked and blocked and get that damned title sorted
14:49.57lcukits unprofessional
14:50.14mavhcand we've still no idea what they're on about
14:50.14Standleyit's liberty of speech
14:50.29mavhcfree speech comes with responsibility
14:50.29glass_Standley: this is too, fuck you and the horse you rode in on
14:50.30javispedroStandley kicked
14:50.31lcuklike fuck is it
14:50.54javispedroStandley blocked
14:50.57glass_Standley: since it's presumably french, the point of the message gets lost too to most here
14:50.59javispedrowow, he is not a bot?
14:51.05lcuktake your protest to those who need to see itwe are not those peopl
14:51.13Standleyi am a real human.
14:51.14lcukno just a stupid motherfucker
14:51.33Standleyabused by freenode and somes operator pedo.
14:51.36mavhcnah, human implies some kind of rationality
14:51.52javispedroyeah, it is clear from your behaviour you are 12 year old.
14:51.56glass_Standley: well what the fuck has that to do with maemo
14:52.00GeneralAntillesHum, sorry guys, was sleeping. :P
14:52.01mavhcwhy don't you talk to the police then?
14:52.07javispedrowb General.
14:52.16*** mode/#maemo [+o GeneralAntilles] by ChanServ
14:52.20Standleypolice = jude = pedo
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14:52.53mavhcwhat's a jude?
14:52.57GeneralAntillesAhaha
14:52.57Standleyjew
14:52.59*** mode/#maemo [+o GeneralAntilles] by ChanServ
14:53.03Standleypolice = jew = pedo
14:53.04GeneralAntillesWho needs killin'?
14:53.08GeneralAntillesOh, I see.
14:53.08mavhcseems unlikely, cite your source
14:53.11glass_Standley: maybe you should start a revolution then. good luck finding anyone willing to do that kind of thing with a guy like you
14:53.15*** kick/#maemo [Standley!n=GeneralA@c-68-59-48-143.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] by GeneralAntilles (Thanks, but no thanks.)
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14:53.22Standleypolice = ice = shut down boat titanic
14:53.25lcukhe has a bot
14:53.28aquatixautorejoin?
14:53.36mavhceveryone has autorejoin
14:53.44lcukdoesnt
14:53.44*** mode/#maemo [+b *!*@91.179.254.158] by GeneralAntilles
14:53.47*** kick/#maemo [Standley!n=GeneralA@c-68-59-48-143.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] by GeneralAntilles (Thanks, but no thanks.)
14:53.48aquatixmyeah, it can get you banned
14:53.53*** topic/#maemo by qwerty12_N810 -> Welcome to #maemo | N900 and Maemo 5 announced @ http://maemo.nokia.com | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Community council election -> http://tinyurl.com/n9j9pa | Maemo 5 will not be available for 770/n8x0, use Mer instead
14:53.58javispedrodanke schön.
14:54.01lcukthx
14:54.04aquatixdank u
14:54.06GeneralAntillesAlright, who wants to be deputized?
14:54.12SpeedEvilanyone can set the topic
14:54.18lcuksomeone that understands irc hopefully
14:54.29GeneralAntillesStskeeps, you present and accounted for?
14:54.31lcukvotes qwerty12_N810 he knows everything
14:54.45lcukand is here often lol
14:54.46aquatixmaybe put some access list on the topic?
14:55.05GeneralAntillesaquatix, meh, we get real spammers maybe once every 6 months.
14:55.06javispedrowhat for? he could've as well come here and flooded the channel
14:55.30aquatixtrue
14:55.33javispedrothe problem is that the day shift needs one more OP ;)
14:55.34GeneralAntillesFirst time I tried to op myself there my client crashed. :D
14:55.39aquatixjust thinking out loud
14:55.46aquatixGeneralAntilles: *g*
14:55.51aquatixi wondered :)
14:55.53GeneralAntillesjavispedro, we didn't have any for the longest time.
14:56.07javispedroGeneralAntilles: yeah, your quit on that moment was quite.. dramatic.
14:56.08GeneralAntillesaquatix, I managed to kick my own ass somehow.
14:56.11lcukit was bad when WoW diablo came out
14:56.16lcukfacepalmed then
14:56.56aquatixGeneralAntilles: hah, always fun
14:57.00javispedrolcuk: just wait until WoW fremantle comes out
14:57.57rkirtisupports lcuk's vote on qwerty12_N810
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14:58.39GeneralAntillesqwerty12_N810, can I deputize you without you bringing the whole channel down? :P
14:58.49*** mode/#maemo [+o qwerty12_N810] by GeneralAntilles
14:58.57*** mode/#maemo [-o GeneralAntilles] by GeneralAntilles
14:59.11javispedrowhat did you do??? what have you done!!!!!! he'll kick us all now.
14:59.18GeneralAntillesMuahaha!
14:59.21qwerty12_N810The power... *gasps*. Now I must start my revenge plan...
14:59.25qwerty12_N810Thanks!
14:59.54lcukremember
15:00.01lcukthis isnt the #idonthaveann900 chan :P
15:00.09javispedro(will still exists btw)
15:00.22aquatixlcuk: butbutbut
15:00.26javispedros/will/which
15:00.35aquatixlcuk: I *don't* have an n900
15:00.38qwerty12_N810lcuk: To be fair, I did ban myself from that chan in the end :p
15:00.57mavhcwhat's the current state of rumours of a non phone n900 type thing?
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15:01.00crashanddie_life will ban you in the end as well
15:01.04mavhcwithout the 40% extra cost
15:01.15crashanddie_mavhc, like an n900-touch?
15:01.21mavhcyes
15:01.30crashanddie_mavhc, rumours are probably pretty strong
15:01.37lcuksounds interesting, but the modem is really really useful
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15:01.48crashanddie_but if Nokia does it, they're led by the most stupid execs ever
15:01.59lcukand that was what we were told it was anyway
15:02.06lcuki have to go be computer repair guy
15:02.06lcukbbl
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15:02.13crashanddie_lcuk, got a job yet?
15:02.16mavhcthat seems like it was misdirection
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15:02.54lcukno
15:03.00crashanddie_lcuk, got any leads?
15:03.18lcukyeah, usb mini usb micro power cables
15:03.25crashanddie_good
15:03.25wazdhello world)
15:03.30crashanddie_hello alone
15:03.33lcukhello wazd
15:03.37lcukgoodbye wazd
15:03.38javispedrohello wazd
15:03.50courmischmavhc: no modem => no operator deal => 40% pricier rather than cheaper
15:03.58javispedrocourmisch: you'd wish
15:04.12crashanddie_courmisch, the n900 doesn't really have any operator deals anyway
15:04.27javispedroi'm used at getting my gadgets at less than 200€. no strings attached.
15:04.32mavhcseems like n900 price is 40% higher than original n810 price
15:04.44crashanddie_mavhc, also has a shitload more features
15:04.49crashanddie_and inflation, all that
15:04.59mavhcbut we're in the future, of course it has more features
15:05.15crashanddie_doesn't work like that matey
15:05.17mavhcin general gadgets keep the same price, but get new features
15:05.28crashanddie_if it's the same version of the gadget, yeah
15:05.34crashanddie_like PS3 becoming PS3Slim
15:05.35SpeedEvilcrashanddie_: in many countries the secondary market is subsidising it. These are independant phone shops that get a subsidy for every contract they sell - that can apply to any hardware tehy like
15:05.41mavhcno, that gets cheaper
15:05.51wazdDamn, this army dep. case is even deeper than I thought
15:05.53crashanddie_mavhc, my point exactly
15:06.10mavhcover time the same thing gets cheaper, and the new better version is released at the original price
15:06.10crashanddie_mavhc, but was the PS3 more expensive than the PS2?
15:06.11courmischI don't know the component cost, but I would be very much surprised if the modem accounted for 40%
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15:06.18SpeedEvilcrashanddie_: for example - in the UK - you can get it at - IIRC - 32 quid a month. Or 382 quid new in box. Compared to 499 from nokia
15:06.35crashanddie_SpeedEvil, and where's that then?
15:06.41courmischthere is a camera, an OMAP SoC, an MMC and a touch screen too
15:07.02crashanddie_courmisch, and 32gb of ROM
15:07.08SpeedEvilhttp://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/Nokia/Nseries-Multimedia-Phones/sb489/n443/p26078.aspx?lpsrc=google&lpcat=NokiaN900l&lpgrp=N900Nokia&lptxt=N900v1&lpkey=n900%20nokia&gclid=CI7E8PeK-pwCFV8B4wodgyBMbg#tabsAnchor
15:07.13courmischcrashanddie_: you mean MMC
15:07.26crashanddie_no, I mean ROM
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15:07.53mavhcps1 and ps2 were $299
15:09.04courmischcrashanddie_: ROM in the N900?
15:09.28mavhcweird, I can't search for $ in chrome
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15:13.27crashanddie_courmisch, memory you can't remove, which remains *in* the machine, and which saves data over reboots/loss of power, yes, that is textbook definition of ROM
15:13.57pupnik_i thought it meant Read Only Memory
15:14.07mavhcand you can't edit
15:14.16javispedroa 1980 book would say so ;)
15:14.44crashanddie_mavhc, oh, and PS2 was indeed $299, but PS3 was $599, so yeah, just blame it on inflation, I guess :)
15:14.54pupnik_you know you're old when words don't mean what they used-to
15:15.54mavhcrom is rom, flash is flash, eeprom is eeprom, there's no real confusion unless people are wrong
15:16.08SpeedEvilexcept eeprom is flash
15:16.19javispedronow.
15:17.14courmischas /dev/mmcblk0  implies, it's an MMC not a ROM
15:17.25crashanddie_don't make me bring out my infrared torch and erase your memories
15:17.28javispedrowhat was the discussion anyway? ;)
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15:18.10SpeedEvilcourmisch: Unless someones flipped the read-only switch.
15:18.46fnordianslipi suppose some of you might not yet have heard of "Write Only Memory".  If not, see: http://www2.vmi.edu/Faculty/squirejc/Research/IC_Datasheets/digital_cmos/Write%20Only%20Memory.pdf
15:19.21crashanddie_fnordianslip, OutputStream os = new OutputStream();
15:19.23courmischSpeedEvil: it's supposed to contain the swap and user files. Why would it be read-only anyway?
15:19.30GeneralAntillesAh, Eldar.
15:19.35javispedroI know about Write Once Read Never memory (WORN)
15:20.14fnordianslipcrashanddie_:  huh?
15:20.23crashanddie_javispedro, sounds like my gf's clothes... WORN (Wear once, re-use never)
15:20.27mavhcwhat are the point of such things?
15:20.43mavhcWORM discs were Write Once Read Many
15:20.56javispedrocrashanddie_ :)
15:21.44mavhcyour gf wears clothes?
15:21.54javispedroGeneralAntilles: first time you read his posts? grab a BIG bag of popcorn then
15:22.04GeneralAntillesjavispedro, been working my way through slowly.
15:22.10crashanddie_mavhc, helps for work (unless she's a prostitute, I guess)
15:22.26crashanddie_GeneralAntilles, link
15:22.28GeneralAntillesjavispedro, I like the one where he summarily dismissed the entire community for being "non-adequate".
15:22.29crashanddie_GeneralAntilles, how's your mac?
15:22.34GeneralAntilleshttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=334114&postcount=387
15:22.37GeneralAntillescrashanddie_, fucking fast.
15:22.49crashanddie_too much information
15:22.53crashanddie_I just wanted to know how it ran
15:23.17mavhcas fast as women run away from him after talking about his mac
15:23.27GeneralAntillesBuuuurn
15:23.52crashanddie_marmo
15:24.02javispedromahvc: women don't run away now from macs. didn't you read the latest apple memo?
15:24.10crashanddie_that guy needs to guy back to highschool and learn some spelling and grammar
15:24.35MoaBirdThey never did, as far as I could tell. Macs are the easier of the two major platforms to pick up, in my experiences. (for non techies)
15:24.50mavhcso they're like guys?
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15:25.04crashanddie_mavhc, nice
15:25.21mavhclinux: the third sex
15:25.28crashanddie_trans
15:25.37mavhcI hear linux is more popular than windows 98 now
15:25.37crashanddie_wants to be sexy, but has that rough edge
15:26.30MoaBirdmavhc: I'd be pretty surprised if that was true. It's amazing how many years people will hold onto their old crap machines.
15:26.39crashanddie_I'm looking at my PS3, and one of the glossy edges reflected a sticker somewhere in the room... It said "INITRAM"
15:26.43crashanddie_init ram?
15:26.48crashanddie_I looked around, "MARTINI"
15:26.52mavhcwas some browser stat thing a few years ago
15:27.32crashanddie_MoaBird, I guess your statement would make sense, networking on win98 was a bitch
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15:27.59mavhc"Hackintoshes Possibly More Popular than Linux" "Ubuntu may be more popular than Linux itself in 2010"
15:28.07MoaBirdcrashanddie_: As was pretty much everything else, if I recall. Home versions of Windows didn't stop sucking until XP SP2, frankly.
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15:28.26MoaBirdHow can Ubuntu be more popular than something it's a subset of?
15:28.27javispedromavhc: why that wouldn't surprise me.
15:28.38mavhcMoaBird: prediction of future search traffic
15:28.56javispedroOSX86, being way more difficult to install, and having substantially less PCI hardware support,
15:29.04javispedro"more popular".
15:29.12javispedro*sigh*
15:29.15mavhcmore populus?
15:29.40javispedro"Possibly More Popular".
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15:31.31Firebirdhm, out of game ideas for maemo :o
15:32.02qwerty12_N810Firebird: Google "iBoobs"
15:32.13FirebirdI'll pass on the apple apps
15:34.29mavhcwaterfall game? bacteria growth game?
15:34.48glass_Firebird: paratrooper clone
15:35.21Firebirdglass_, like shooting airborne people?
15:35.29Firebirdmavhc, what's a waterfall game
15:35.33mavhcaudio game, where you have to adjust the input from the microphone somehow?
15:35.45mavhcwater falls from top, you have to direct it somewhere with limited resources
15:36.16glassFirebird: http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/images/screenshots/paratrooper.gif
15:36.28mavhcfrom the days when computers were just powerful enough to do particle staff
15:36.30mavhcstuff
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15:54.25fralson what critera is the ideas in brainstorm sorted? its doing my head in to figure it out
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16:11.27StskeepsGeneralAntilles: mm?
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16:11.46GeneralAntillesStskeeps, nevermind, deputized qwerty12_N810.
16:12.20Stskeepsgood :)
16:12.25qwerty12_N810Who is halfway through banning you all...
16:12.39luke-jr:O
16:12.43Stskeepsi don't blame you
16:13.20GeneralAntillesI'd ban me too.
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16:13.43qwerty12_N810Nah, I'm busy making XChat's search dialog under Fremantle somewhat usuable...
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16:23.20fralsnice, xchat port! :)
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16:26.32DocScrutinizerqwerty12_N810: pleased to hear that (XChat). Will be the first app I need to install
16:27.25qwerty12_N810XChat isn't my port (done by skyhusker) but he seems to have gone AWOL, and I do need my IRC...
16:27.46DocScrutinizer:-)
16:28.59DocScrutinizerqwerty12_N810: probably the "ctrl-F / F3" approach will just do a good job. Basically you don't need the dialog anymore, after entering search-regex
16:29.27DocScrutinizerreplace F3 by a better supported shortcut though :-P
16:29.56qwerty12_N810I've taken the lazier approach and replaced the dialog with a HildonFindToolbar :)
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16:35.01javispedrothat's the "lazier approach"?
16:35.09javispedroi would want to know what the hard work approach is.
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16:35.53zerojayI think I'll wait for telepathy-idle instead. ;)
16:37.17javispedrozerojay: with removed chatroom support in the gui...
16:37.51qwerty12_N810likes real IRC clients ;)
16:39.16javispedroqwerty12_N810: count down to someone saying ${RANDOM_CLI_IRC_CLIENT} is the only real irc client: 5.. 4... 3... 2...
16:40.39qwerty12_N810$REAL_IRC_CLIENT can be defined as anything that is not RTComm/Pidgin...
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16:46.09SpeedEvilnetcat is the only real IRC
16:49.21pupnik_whoever does xterm please implement audio bell
16:49.54penguinbaitand please make it so it can be disabled ;)
16:50.37zerojayjavispedro:
16:50.41zerojayer
16:50.43SpeedEvilAudio mp3 bell
16:50.59zerojayjavispedro: Forgot about that.
16:51.00SpeedEvilIt has to be able to play 'My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard' - whenever it beeps
16:51.16zerojayqwerty12_N810: I like real IRC clients... when they're any good and XChat doesn't fit the bill. :)
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16:54.13qwerty12_N810RTComm - regarding IRC - has fewer features, and I seem to remember it being generally slow when entering #maemo (and there's more people now than there was when I last used it). RTComm does have a better interface, however, I won't lie there
16:57.29zerojayI've been on IRC for over a decade. I can't say I don't miss the extra features from a real IRC client, but I'd rather not deal with something like Xchat at all.. and to do so on a tablet... bah.
16:58.41Sho_I imagine we'll put Konversation on Maemo 6, or Maemo 5 already if the kdelibs packaging takes off
16:58.50MyrttiIrssi ftw
16:59.42zerojayI'd like to see an IRC client made specifically for the tablets, actually.
17:00.12MyrttiWell
17:00.40MyrttiAtleast mirggi is a bearably good one
17:00.46zerojayProbably won't happen, but hey... a guy can dream, right?
17:01.16Myrttijmirc is niceish
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17:02.47zerojayJava?
17:02.52MyrttiTheres plenty of irc clients for s60, nothing stops people from developing one for maemo
17:03.06MyrttiJmirc is java yes
17:03.13Sho_zerojay: well, if we do make a Konversation-for-Maemo we'd look into making the UI work well of course
17:03.17lardmanderf: ping
17:03.30derflardman: Pong.
17:03.49zerojaySho_: Sure.
17:03.52lardmancan I ask you about your QR code?
17:03.58derfYes.
17:04.18lardmanlet me get a pastebin up
17:05.01lardmanhttp://maemo.pastebin.com/m42a8176e
17:05.21lardmanI guess I've made a mistake somewhere, but your code only outputs ntext==1 all the time
17:05.36lardmanwell I have made a mistake, just wondering if you could see anything fishy
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17:06.49derfntext is the number of _strings_, not characters.
17:06.50lardmanwas using this to generate QR codes: http://qrcode.kaywa.com/
17:06.54lardmanah
17:07.02derfIn the even there's more than one code in the image.
17:07.06derf*event
17:07.19lardmanso how does one access the strings?
17:07.31lardmanis text[i] a pointer to a *char?
17:07.37derfYes.
17:07.44lardmanah, great
17:07.53derfYou have it declared char **text right above!
17:08.11lardmanah yes, brain fade this morning
17:08.46lardmando they tend to have more than one string in them>
17:08.47lardman?
17:08.57lardmanor is that if there are multiple QR codes in an image?
17:09.03derfThat's for multiple QR codes.
17:09.10MyrttiWhy dont you look at the mobile barcoder extension for firefox
17:09.11lardmanok cool
17:09.31lardmanMyrtti: overhead, plus this is interesting
17:09.32derfIn fact, with structured append, multiple codes can still produce 1 string.
17:09.37MyrttiIt uses nokias barcode creator
17:09.46lardmanMyrtti: ah it creates does it?
17:10.13MyrttiAnd my bf made the extension ;-)
17:10.13lardmanI had to test QR atm, dmtx works fine
17:10.13lardmanand the Nokia stuff is dmtx iirc
17:10.18lardmanah :)
17:10.31MyrttiIts javascript afaik
17:10.32lardmannepotism!
17:10.45derfIt's the way the world works.
17:10.50MyrttiJust loving suggestion
17:11.07MyrttiI almost understood how it works
17:11.37MyrttiI dont really code myself
17:13.05lardmanderf: will try to send you some barcodes that don't decode with zbar this week, batoo is working very nicely
17:13.14derflardman: Great.
17:13.22lardmanlibdmtx need some work though, it's a real CPU hog
17:13.43lardmanhence the separate thread, which I will try lowering the pri for
17:13.47derfYeah... they're not easy to find.
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17:21.56lardmanright, have changed to this, but no output (i.e. blank): http://maemo.pastebin.com/m5eeaad3c
17:22.31lardmanN8x0 binary here if anyone's interested http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/nokia770/mbarcode/
17:23.12derftext[1]?
17:23.34derfIn C our indices start at 0.
17:23.40lardmanoh dear
17:23.50lardmansorry, have been doing MATLAB code today
17:23.56lardmanhides his head in shame
17:24.42pupnik_be happy, you made me feel better
17:25.28lardmanok, that's working better now
17:25.30lardmanthanks
17:25.50lardmanI managed a ~ yesterday instead of ! too
17:25.57lardman~lart MATLAB for being different
17:25.57infobotsmacks MATLAB up side the head with a clue-by-4 for being different
17:29.28derfIt's not Matlab's fault. It's the same as FORTRAN!
17:30.19inzlarman, well, ~ is not, it's just the not you're looking for =)
17:30.26inz+not
17:31.12lardmanyeah, well really it's my fault of course for not concentrating
17:31.28lardmanbut yes, we can also blame the wonders of FORTRAN ;)
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17:35.22lardmanhmm, can't get my "Do you want to open this URL?" dialog to go away....
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17:49.46RST38hmoos
17:49.56lardmanbaaaaa
17:50.33qwerty12_N810kidnaps RST38h and makes him into beef
17:50.50MuJmmm.. raw meat
17:50.51RST38hBad, bad idea
17:51.36lardmanqwerty12_N810: does osso_rpc_run() block?
17:51.42lardmanor is it async?
17:52.11qwerty12_N810IIRC, yes, it does but I believe it comes in an async form too
17:52.30lardmanah, ok
17:53.03qwerty12_N810osso_rpc_async_run()
17:54.09lardmanhmm, that's not even causing the problem so it seems
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17:54.48lardmanI've got a gtk_message_dialog_new(), then a gtk_dialog_run() then gtk_widget_destroy(dialog), yet my dialog stays on screen and the app locks up
17:55.48RST38hit does not get out of _run()
17:56.09lardmanyeah it does, I can press the buttons, but after that it#s locked
17:56.11RST38h_run() blocks afaik, until the user closes the dialog with Ok or Cancel or whatever
17:56.27lardmanfor some reason the destroy fn doesn't work
17:56.41RST38hdoes it execute though?
17:56.44lardmanyes
17:58.13lardmanthe dialog stays though and I guess it's modal so I can't press any other buttons,e tc
17:59.03RST38hquestion: do you call _destroy inside the dialog event loop?
17:59.09RST38hi.e. inside _run?
17:59.12lardmanno
17:59.28RST38hthen, if you do not exit from _run, where do you call _destroy>
17:59.29RST38h?
17:59.37RST38h(sorry if it is a stupid question)
17:59.42lardmanI have something like: response = gtk_dialog_run(GTK_DIALOG(dialog)); gtk_widget_destroy(dialog); switch (response) {
18:00.02lardmandoes _run() not return immediately?
18:00.14lardmanafter you press one of the buttons that is
18:01.00lardmanah, I think it my arguments
18:01.43lardmanwas trying to use a char* rather than a printf-style string
18:02.49lardmanhmm, no, that's not it at all
18:03.04lardmanI'll pastebin the code
18:03.28lardmanhttp://maemo.pastebin.com/m3624024b
18:04.11RST38hlardman: Ok
18:04.31RST38hlardman: bad news: _run won't return until the dialog is cancelled or confirmed
18:04.45lardmanyeah, I'm pressing yes or no
18:05.04RST38hlardman: ok...and it should disappear immediately
18:05.09RST38heven if you do not destroy it
18:05.11lardmanit doesn't
18:05.15lardmanhmm
18:05.22RST38hcan you should the dialog implementation?>
18:05.51lardmanshould?
18:05.52lardmanshow?
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18:06.02RST38hWait, let me look something up
18:06.08lardmanok
18:07.06RST38hAdd GTK_DIALOG_MODAL to flags
18:08.07lardmanok
18:08.59lardmansame thing
18:09.03RST38hhmmm
18:09.08lardmanGTK_DIALOG_DESTROY_WITH_PARENT | GTK_DIALOG_MODAL,
18:09.18lardman?
18:09.36RST38hYeah
18:09.45RST38hPut a printf before _destroy() call
18:09.51RST38hjust to be sure
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18:11.38lardmanyep, I see that output
18:11.51lcuk2mmmmmmmm
18:13.24lardmantry for yourself if you fancy: http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/nokia770/mbarcode/
18:13.38lardmanhave to install libdmtx0 first though, then run maemo-barcode
18:13.42lardmanmust change that name too
18:15.18pupnik_QEMU on OMAP3430 x86 benchmarks
18:15.23pupnik_500 and 800mhz  http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/48726-qemuonarm/page__st__30__p__757489&#entry757489
18:16.22lardmanno doubt some very basic error I've made
18:16.42lardmanah, is it the output values I've missed out?
18:16.49RST38hlardman: weird, weird crap
18:17.12lardmandon't want to flood the channel here, but how's 8 lines?
18:17.20lardman<PROTECTED>
18:17.20lardman<PROTECTED>
18:17.20lardman<PROTECTED>
18:17.20lardman<PROTECTED>
18:17.20lardman<PROTECTED>
18:17.21lardman<PROTECTED>
18:17.23lardman<PROTECTED>
18:17.25lardman<PROTECTED>
18:17.27lardmanthat works
18:17.37lardmanbut in the other code, I don't specify the return values do I?
18:17.40konttori__I was just testing dr. noksnes on n900. runs full speed, but sounds are not working :(
18:17.40RST38hpupnik: So, it simulates a pentium 90 at more or less 100%?
18:17.49konttori__also, no fullscreen scaling.
18:18.21pupnik_RST38h: it does the integer bench 3x faster than P90
18:18.35pupnik_floating point about 1/2 as fast
18:18.42RST38hpupnik: Yes but does it run gamezzzz 3 times faster ? =)
18:18.53javispedrokonttori_: ta. I'm writing sw scaler support right now
18:18.55konttori__which reminds me to ask that would you guys like to get automatic compositor based scaling of any window? (so, you could say: fullscreen window, and resolution 320x200, but compositor would use opengl to scale it to fullscreen)
18:19.57javispedrokonttori_: if you do that,  reuse XSP*pixeldoubling* functions API ;)
18:20.09RST38hkonttori: fuck, YESSS
18:20.18RST38hkonttori: PLEASE
18:20.23javispedrohehe
18:20.24RST38hkonttori: with sugar on top
18:20.25pupnik_yes please
18:20.36qwerty12_N810konttori_: is that a rhetorical question? :p
18:20.37konttori__well, it's something I could add to our PR1.1 map
18:20.56javispedrogoes back to writing the sw scaler
18:21.05javispedro;)
18:21.09konttori__well, it has not been asked by anybody before. I thought it might be nice to have myself, so I wanted some additional feedback
18:21.11RST38hkonttori: We will sacrifice a dozen of iPhone users in your honor
18:21.32pupnik_konttori__: as usual i'm whining about such things to the wrong people :)
18:21.40konttori__lol. anyway, I *think* it's not a huge job. Mostly about making it clean on how you set the window.
18:21.54qwerty12_N810RST38h: I do that service for free
18:22.05RST38hqwerty: Perfect!
18:22.09konttori__pupnik_: well, I'm heading applications framework, so that kind of issues should be whined to me.
18:22.29pupnik_you may use my car if you need it
18:22.31RST38hkonttori: If the same can be done in windowed mode too, even better
18:22.35javispedrobtw.
18:22.48javispedrodoes sdl 1.3 try to do hw scaling now?
18:23.05konttori__RST38h: well, probably, yeah, it could be done.
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18:23.25konttori__I have no idea about sdl 1.3
18:23.34lcuk2hey
18:23.42lcuk2the android hacker doesnt think maemo do phones
18:23.47javispedrome neither, I can't find a recent roadmap
18:23.51lcuk2http://gizmodo.com/5367420/google-threatens-cyanogen-android-hacker-with-cease+and+desist
18:23.53lcuk2this guy
18:24.12konttori__that sounds like such a bad developer PR thing for google
18:24.19konttori__I don't understand why they do that.
18:24.27lcuk2he left out maemo in his plea
18:24.34lcuk2nahhh they want closed source apps
18:24.45konttori__pupnik_: you also know that you can just set any fullscreen app to non-composited mode?
18:24.57RST38hkonttori: can I file a few bug to you right here?
18:25.01konttori__You gain about 10% of more speed with that.
18:25.09pupnik_that's great :)
18:25.11lcuk2konttori_, i disabled fullscreen at first because notifications didnt come through
18:25.15lcuk2and i missed important messages
18:25.37konttori__in non-composited, notifications do not appear. only the blue led blinks.
18:25.44lcuk2do message notifications still come on without compositing
18:25.50konttori__but the notifications are 'stored' in the dashboard, so it's all good
18:26.13konttori__lcuk2: ^ see above. no notifications, but the blue led
18:26.17lcuk2noticed
18:26.23pupnik_lcuk has to say 'yes please' also
18:26.29pupnik_:)
18:26.39konttori__you cannot composite on top of non-composited surface. It's a tradeoff, but makes sense for e.g. games.
18:26.45lcuk2compositor costs only 10% coooool
18:26.52konttori__you don't want to be disturbed / loose framerate during that
18:27.47lcuk2so can you pan back, or does it work like liqbase
18:27.50lcuk2ie none zooming
18:27.57lcuk2just a keyed window area
18:28.03pupnik_konttori__: is DaVinci something that 3rd party developers can use within maemo5?
18:29.11konttori__to be honest, I don't know.
18:29.32lcuk2konttori_, best of both would be: when the lostfocus event comes - just take a screenshot and store it in a pixmap on the window
18:29.40lcuk2that way, it freezes, but pans back nicely
18:29.48lcuk2(its what im gonna do for liqbase asap
18:29.54pupnik_New tablets are a great adventure.
18:30.03lcuk2all tablets are an adventure
18:30.04javispedrolcuk2: or start compositing then.
18:30.15javispedrocompiz did something like that iirc
18:30.18lcuk2whether it will switch just like that
18:30.23javispedrofull screen video without overlapping windows -> unredirected.
18:30.37konttori__I mean, you can access any existing codecs and services, but I don't know that how well you can actually program to the dsp. (that do you need some sdk or alike)
18:30.41javispedroput a window over -> slows down (gets redirected)
18:30.51konttori__There is nothing that we have put that would restrict the use, that's for sure.
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18:35.30konttori__compositing/non-compositing switch takes about 50 to 100 ms.
18:35.38konttori__so, you can keep switching quite often
18:35.41lcuk2konttori__, cool then!have you seen keesj's push! button controller project
18:35.44lcuk2perfect for gaming
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18:37.40lcuk2konttori__, if not, quick flickr vid, cant find project page right now http://www.flickr.com/photos/51025379@N00/sets/72157622287431773/
18:37.46lcuk2flickr page^
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18:50.29pupnik_moo
18:50.49qwerty12_N810adds pupnik_ to his list of people to make into beef
18:51.20lcuk2why, oh, why did i suggest qwerty as op
18:51.33qwerty12_N810/kick
18:52.01MyrttiWhy didnt you suggest me ;-)
18:52.14Myrtti*chuckle*
18:52.55javispedroME,  and I'll ban you ALL and convert this channel into my NEW #idonthaveann900!!!
18:52.58johnx'mornin
18:53.34qwerty12_N810Hullo, johnx
18:53.41javispedromorning
18:54.19pupnikthanks for the info konttori__ much appreciated
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18:57.32Stskeepsmorning johnx
19:03.13penguinbaitis it morning already?
19:04.41johnxit was 10 minutes ago...
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19:10.13RST38hheya johnx
19:10.27RST38hpenguinbait: it is not morning for 47 more minutes
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19:24.18lcuk2Myrtti, you were not up for nomination because you would kick everyone who disagrees with pink
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19:34.27konttori__lcuk2: interesting project. How do the keypresses get handled to the device?
19:35.01lcuk2mmm what do you mean
19:35.10lcuk2are you suffering from contacts app popping up?
19:35.26lcuk2has followed a keypress through the window manager
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19:36.14konttori__I meant the keesjs push! button controller
19:36.48konttori__oh, yeah, the way contacts are getting key events is a bit irritating.
19:37.23lcuk2thats fairly easy from what i gather
19:37.30lcuk2you can send fake x11 keypresses
19:38.07lcuk2you can make the bluetooth just use the HID profile
19:38.08lcuk2or even a joystick profile itself
19:38.22lcuk2and so when it comes over the wire the bt subsystem does the heavy lifting required
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19:41.18keesjbt-hid it the really easy (and expensive stuff) I bet my money on a variation of http://pupnik.de/xkbd.html + using the IR transciever as cheap way of doing things
19:42.23lcuk2neat!
19:44.41keesjbut for now I am doing "over the top" with the hammer. I am tempted to even use several PIC's for each lego block so I don't need to much wires
19:45.06lcuk2doesnt mindstorms lego have a bluetooth brick
19:45.27lcuk2http://mindstorms.lego.com/overview/bluetooth.aspx
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19:56.00zombieffhi all, i've got a problem with my nokia n800: the screen often "quakes" and sometimes slides from top to bottom cyclically
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19:56.28zombieffi don't even know is the problem with software or hardware
19:56.36pupnikwow
19:56.39zombieff*if
19:56.56pupnikwhat happens when the screen is gone?
19:57.19zombieffit appears at the top of the physical screen
19:57.27zombieffalmost seamlessly
19:57.33zombieffat slides down
19:57.37zombieff*and
19:57.52pupnikkind of like a television without working vsync?
19:58.01zombieffyep)
19:58.21konttori__anybody know if opengles1 packages are available for fremantle somewhere?
19:59.32keesjnot opengles2.0?
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19:59.52konttori__they are by default on the device
20:00.02konttori__I need es1 to get quake3 running
20:00.03lcuk2konttori__, i would have thought you above anyone else in this chan would know
20:00.15lcuk2i thought it ran already?
20:00.21konttori__well, I don't know if they are in the open available
20:00.31konttori__and I don't have access to internal systems from home
20:00.36konttori__blah. on monday then
20:00.50konttori__yeah I wanted to take a video of it
20:01.02konttori__now to bed.
20:01.06keesjbye
20:01.09pupnikcheers konttori__
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20:08.52javispedrowow.
20:09.02javispedrotruly the state of ogles 1 is unknown?
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20:16.20pupnikargh.  in the ubuntu desktop vmware image, my numlock is locked down
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20:17.03ShadowJKzombieff, other people have N800 with same problem :/
20:20.54zombieffShadowJK: so it isn't curable? :(
20:22.12zombieffno solution?
20:26.03zombieff> This is an issue the N800. You have to replace the LCD.
20:26.13zombieffthat's what i googled
20:27.35lcuk2zombieff, ive heard of it only once before
20:27.41lcuk2does it seem effected by temperature
20:27.47lcuk2ie works normally at first
20:27.56lcuk2then drifts as it heats up?
20:28.18ShadowJKStskeeps has an N800 that does the same thing
20:28.20johnx(or gets better as it heats up)
20:28.32lcuk2thats who i meant
20:33.18RST38hAnyone knows how I can tell C compiler NOT to modify function arguments on stack?
20:34.15unixSnobRST38h: you can put "const" in front of the parameters
20:34.34javispedroi don't know how the optimizer will react to that
20:35.47RST38hoptimizer does not give a fuck
20:36.01javispedrowhat kind of parameters you're talking?
20:36.05RST38has far as it is concerned, parameters are fair game for temporaries
20:36.16RST38hfunc(int a1,int a2,int a3)
20:36.21javispedrothat's what I am saying
20:36.23RST38ha1,a2,a3 should not change on stack
20:36.33javispedroint b = a1; b = 3 would change a1
20:37.59unixSnobfunc (const int a1, const int a2, const int a3)
20:38.24unixSnobfunc (const int&, const int&, const int&) <= even better
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20:43.15javispedroyeah, even if it accepts the keyword it may ignore it.
20:43.15RST38hsnake blood and a skinned hedgehog and a bat wing...========== Rebuild All: 1 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 skipped ==========
20:43.16RST38hit worked
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20:43.47javispedro[rep] yeah, even if it accepts the keyword it may ignore it.
20:43.55javispedroah, did you run it?
20:44.32RST38hyep.
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20:46.42javispedro:)
20:47.09caoticSo, what is required to be able to get your current location on maps in the N810 ?
20:47.33caoticI always get location information not available
20:48.56RST38hjavis: Thanks! You saved me from having to modify ~5000 lines of assembly code
20:49.53johnxcaotic, and you're outside with a clear view of the southern sky?
20:50.43caoticindoors right now but can be fixed. How about when inside a car. Will that terribly affect it ?
20:50.53johnxdunno
20:51.00johnxprobably not once it has a fix
20:51.10johnxit's just getting the first fix in a new area that takes a while
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20:51.35caotick, going outside :P
20:51.39lcuk2always does a full shutdown battery pop before taking n810 in car. not had a problem since :)
21:02.01ShadowJKthe roof in my new car seems like an effective GPS blocker
21:02.14ShadowJKworks fine when under the window though
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21:07.02SpeedEvilcars vary.
21:07.36RST38hdraws a pentagram with word "volatile" in the center
21:07.40SpeedEvilsome - especially newer/shinier cars have a coating on the window to reduce solar gain - which also blocks GPS - or do rear window demisting
21:07.54javispedroRST38h: you finally found the source of all the evil in the world
21:07.54SpeedEvilwonders what foul demon RST38h is summoning.
21:08.04RST38hOh shit, even link-time-optimization works
21:08.07RST38hSpeed: VAX
21:08.19RST38hSpeed: And it speaks to me in German, unless properly excorsized
21:08.37ShadowJKVAX <3
21:08.40RST38hjavis: Yes, and I am currently productizing it
21:08.47ShadowJKhad ssh account on a VAX once
21:08.54ShadowJKit ran OpenVMS :-)
21:09.05RST38hcompiled ircii for openvms once
21:09.15ShadowJKI used epic :)
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21:14.52johnxRST38h, did you already hear about the bank heist in Stockholm?
21:15.47RST38hNo, what happened? They airdropped VAX onto the vault?
21:16.04pupnikhahaha
21:16.14johnxRST38h, http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/now-this-is-how-to-rob-a-bank/
21:17.19RST38hah, so the helicopter was involved after all
21:17.58johnxso who says you only ever hear about the dumb criminals
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21:19.12fralsyeah that chopper landed a few minutes from where i live, pretty cool
21:19.44johnxfrals, they cut you in to keep your mouth shut? :)
21:19.53lardmannight all
21:19.58johnx'night lardman
21:19.59fralshaha, i wish :D
21:20.30qwerty12_N810"Here, son, get that N900 you've always wanted"
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21:21.10javispedrothat's how eldar got his prototype
21:21.35fralspretty pro to rob a cash storage central with a fuckin chopper tbh
21:22.35johnxI'd feel a lot differently if it was someplace that wasn't insured or if anyone was hurt
21:22.48johnxbut as it is: just wow
21:23.52qwerty12_N810So, is Sweden heaven for bank robbers? If so, I'll get a ticket right now
21:24.55javispedroyes it is
21:25.04qwerty12_N810Great!
21:25.16javispedroI will be waiting for you there to rob you first ;)
21:25.45qwerty12_N810Of what?
21:25.53qwerty12_N810coughs
21:25.58johnxyour cool nickname
21:26.17javispedrowhatever you stole from all those nokians!
21:26.29rkirti:D
21:27.36qwerty12_N810Well, if you want a 3310 *that* badly...
21:28.02SpeedEvilqwerty12_N810: Running maemo5?
21:28.31rkirtiwonders what encryption system would map n900 to 3310......
21:28.32lcuk2the 3310 is easy enough, but getting a lock of a nokians hair for that voodoo anti-iphone spell is a bit more tricky
21:29.03lcuk2tho notably, jeremiah has long hair...
21:29.06qwerty12_N810SpeedEvil: Running some version of Maemo with Snake II...
21:29.24SpeedEvillcuk2: I thought you simply needed the ash from the heartwood of a Golden Delicious tree, planted in a graveyeard.
21:29.40javispedroanti-iphone spell?
21:29.46lcuk2thats to resurect a c64, get with the times
21:29.52javispedrowould be happy with an anti-rdf spell
21:30.04SpeedEvilFor that I always used leaded solder.
21:30.41lcuk2my first attempt at fixing a broken computer involved tinfoil and the expansion port on my zx spectrum
21:30.56qwerty12_N810leaves you old people to it
21:31.03javispedrolol
21:31.05lcuk2i didnt have to gel my hair for weeks afterwards!
21:31.19lcuk2speakin of which :O shockingly - for real
21:31.26lcuk2jake was stupid tonight
21:31.37lcuk2he idly put the charger for the laptop in his mouth
21:31.44SpeedEvil20v=ow
21:31.47lcuk2facepalmed
21:31.51kpel!!
21:32.02lcuk2yes speedevil
21:32.10lcuk2reactions are quite quick when you get a zap
21:32.14SpeedEvilIs jake 7?
21:32.19lcuk2yeah
21:32.43SpeedEvilThat'll do it.
21:32.45lcuk2hopefully its his first and final lesson in the dangers of electricity :)
21:33.18SpeedEvillcuk2: "That's the evil in the internet biting you"
21:33.42lcuk2nahhh, internet cables arent that shocking
21:33.51lcuk2they have a bad taste occasionally tho
21:35.11SpeedEvillive 10base-t cables can be detected with the tongue.
21:36.30lcuk2i prefer just looking at my color coding sheet and using a regular non living tester
21:36.46lcuk2my dad had a mega-ohm industrial circuit tester
21:36.55lcuk2he once asked me to "hold onto these"
21:37.01lcuk2giving me a pair of crocodile clips
21:37.23ShadowJKhah
21:37.37RST38h<sleep>
21:37.46ShadowJKonce thought the electric fence was off and did "I'm not afraid, watch this!"
21:38.00lcuk2haha
21:38.09lcuk2they give a right jolt
21:38.46lcuk2my mate once peed onto a lamppost and caused a massive electric arc and shorted the post out
21:38.56lcuk2im surprised he didnt fry anywhere
21:39.09ShadowJKAlso at work one of the engineers told me he just discovered the failure mode of triacs vs relays.. relays just become a break in the circuit.. triacs become a conductor in the circuit when they break :-)
21:39.15ShadowJKI didn't ask how he discovered it
21:39.18fralsmythbuster tested that whole peeing on stuff concept, didnt they?
21:39.25lcuk2dunno
21:39.35lcuk2but afterwards we tried other pepole peeing
21:39.42ShadowJKWell with the electric fence, electricity would be conducted through the body into the ground
21:39.44lcuk2and only he had explosive electrolitic piss
21:40.05fralsturns out its pretty hard to get it to arc up to you due to.. well, its not a solid stream all the way to the electric current usually
21:40.07ShadowJKbut lamppost has live and ground near eachother?
21:40.17lcuk2yeah -  but sparks flew
21:40.20lcuk2and we were young
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21:42.29qwerty12_N810There was some guy in London who took a piss on the train tracks and got elecrocuted as a result of doing so
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21:43.05SpeedEvilIt depends on the stream.
21:43.37SpeedEvilIf you can obtain a coherent stream, with under a few cm gap
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21:49.33zerojayThe Mythbusters fucked that one up anyways.
21:49.50zerojayTheir piss stream had zero pressure behind it unlike a dude taking a piss normally.
21:49.52lcuk2how/why
21:50.14SpeedEvilzerojay: pressure is actually bad
21:50.29SpeedEvilzerojay: more energy in the stream tends to cause it to become uncoherent sooner
21:50.39mavhcif only science let you do your own experiments
21:50.41zerojayCome to my toilet then. :)
21:51.00SpeedEvilzerojay: Turn the lights off, and flash photograph some streams from the side.
21:51.14SpeedEvilcannot be held responsible for piss all over the floor.
21:51.23frals:D
21:51.54zerojaylol
21:51.57javispedro#maemo. you can talk about ye olde computers, and you can piss.
21:52.18mavhcdon't use your pick up lines on me
21:52.29qwerty12_N810Why limit yourself to just pissing?
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21:53.06lcuk22 girls 1 transformer
21:53.10t_s_osheesh, do i need to grab the mind bleach?
21:53.15SpeedEvildownloads tubgirl to perform photometrology.
21:53.27mavhcdo you now
21:54.08lcuk2ok, lets flush this conversation.  we need to wipe the slate clean.
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21:54.21qwerty12_N810That's it! Tubgirl! I haven't fapped to that in a while
21:54.32lcuk2OP!
21:54.42t_s_oi did not see that...
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21:55.10lcuk2t_s_o, consider yourself lucky
21:55.52lcuk2all because of a silly electrocution
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22:11.17lcuk2wow http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=39904
22:12.00kpellol
22:12.48b-man16rofl
22:13.22Corsacnice
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22:14.39lcuk2Corsac, i dont think its a photoshop - its more like smoking into a projector
22:14.59lcuk2is probably wrong tho
22:17.20CorsacI would agree
22:17.25Corsacbut it still looks very nice
22:17.56Corsac(cigarettes are kind-of hot, on a picture)
22:18.09Corsacphotogenic, I mean
22:18.48zerojayIf you say so.
22:19.56lcuk2zerojay, ok, dynamic smoke clouds generated by combustion of a mixture of checmicals in a safe filtered environment vented to ECC regulations :D
22:20.06lcuk2and without going near humans
22:20.14lcuk2the point was the smoke, not the act of smoking
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22:20.56lcuk2Corsac, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJk8ijAUCiI
22:21.02lcuk2this is super cool too
22:21.06zerojaylcuk2: I meant that towards Corsac saying cigs are kind of hot.
22:21.28zerojaylcuk2: And I can't really separate the smoke from the act of smoking. ;)
22:21.45lcuk2smoke rings on that video you can :P
22:21.59lcuk2they are like the best explosions out of scifi
22:24.51Corsaczerojay: well, cigarettes *are* hots
22:24.54Corsacwhen they are lighted
22:25.31Corsaclcuk2: pretty :)
22:25.46igagislcuk2: hi
22:26.25igagislcuk2: I managed to upload theremin to fremantle extras-devel
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22:27.37MrGoose1lcuk2: who are you and what did you do to luck?
22:27.43MrGoose1s/uc/cu/
22:27.43rohanrhuhello
22:28.00lcuknothing
22:28.05lcukapart from got kicked earlier
22:28.06MrGoose1lcuk: who are you and what did you do to lcuk2?
22:28.25MrGoose1ah!
22:28.30rohanrhuis maemo installable to nokia n95 ?
22:28.31Tiredgot a good kickin...
22:28.33MrGoose1resumes his sleep
22:28.55lcuk:D
22:29.29javispedrono. no. no.,
22:29.33javispedroand no.
22:29.39b-man16can anyone help me with this? :( http://pastebin.ca/1580709
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22:31.15Andy80hi all
22:31.23javispedrob-man16: as a temporary workaround, you could try with "export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:2"
22:31.32b-man16ok
22:31.32kpelb-man16: add a line in /etc/hosts for localhost?
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22:33.07pupnikit's fun watching nethack.alt.org people play the game
22:33.53b-man16javispedro: didn't work :( http://pastebin.ca/1580711
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22:35.52SpeedEvil1pupnik: yup
22:36.07SpeedEvil1pupnik: I have played nethack.alt.org over gprs with my neo1973
22:36.15pupnik:)(
22:36.16pupnik:)
22:36.18SpeedEvil1pupnik: (openmoko) this was very silly though
22:36.33SpeedEvil1and didn't really work very well, due to the limited virtual keyb
22:36.34javispedrob-man16: is xephyr listening, and on display 2:?
22:37.13b-man16javispedro: yes
22:38.03SpeedEvil1pupnik: I have a tiled screensaver I made once - that shows a dozen in-progress games.
22:39.06javispedrouh, well..
22:40.16b-man16i ran "Xephyr :2 -host-cursor -screen 800x480x16 -dpi 96 -ac -kb &"
22:40.43pupnikheh
22:41.06javispedrob-man16: does /tmp/.X11-unix/X2 exists in sbox
22:41.07javispedro?
22:42.05b-man16nope
22:42.12MrGoose1n900 for vodaphone?
22:42.25b-man16ls -a /tmp/.X11-unix; x0
22:42.38b-man16*X0
22:42.40MrGoose1http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/Nokia/Nseries-Multimedia-Phones/sb489/n443/p26078.aspx?lpsrc=google&lpcat=NokiaN900l&lpgrp=N900&lptxt=N900v3&lpkey=n900&gclid=CIrTzpqskJ0CFcQB4wod8j242g
22:42.45MrGoose1sorry for the long link
22:42.50SpeedEvilMrGoose1: also t-mobile
22:42.55SpeedEvilMrGoose1: not bad prices
22:43.03pupnikok adding repository.maemo.org to /etc/hosts
22:43.17MrGoose1SpeedEvil: In UK?
22:43.33SpeedEvilMrGoose1: in that compared with buying from nokia, you get a discount of maybe 70-100 quid including the discounted plan. yes
22:43.50SpeedEvilactually - more in some cases
22:44.34MrGoose1SpeedEvil: I cant find a link for t-mobile
22:44.40SpeedEvilYou get a discount of 100 quid if you get it with a PAYG SIM. - vodafone simplicity - it's another tab
22:44.49SpeedEvilabove the list
22:45.07SpeedEvilmych the same price
22:45.19MrGoose1SpeedEvil: oh right! sorry
22:45.21b-man16javispedro: only /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 exists
22:45.36javispedrob-man16: that /tmp should be the same as the host /tmp
22:45.47b-man16oh
22:45.48javispedrodoes X2 exist there?
22:46.05b-man16mm
22:46.53SpeedEvilMrGoose1: Look at the price of the individual plans - without phones - on the voda/t-mobile website - and you save perhaps 100-200 quid buying through there - compared to buying from nokia and the sim-only plan. And of course - nothing to pay up-front.
22:47.09SpeedEvilMrGoose1: I am unsure if the phone would be locked to the carrier - I suspect not
22:47.15b-man16javispedro: nope
22:47.19rangeWhat does vodafone mean with "unlimited web"? Internet or Intarweb?
22:47.41SpeedEvilrange: it's a lie.
22:47.50SpeedEvilrange: As they all are in the UK
22:47.58SpeedEvilrange: they mean you can have it up 24*7
22:48.06rangeSpeedEvil: Only UK-Web? :)
22:48.16pupnikAhh to fix DNS in Maemo Scratchbox VMware image, need to edit ubuntu's crazy /etc/nsswitch.conf - just copying resolv.conf into SBOX does not help... http://lists.scratchbox.org/pipermail/scratchbox-users/2007-March/000906.html
22:48.32SpeedEvilrange: there are 'fair use' quotas - that vary from 500M/mo to 5G/mo depending on plan
22:49.02lcukrange, yeah, only .co.uk sites available :(
22:49.03SpeedEvilrange: I'm currently using vodafone 3G to connect over - ssh works, http works - I haven't checked out much else.
22:49.05rangeSpeedEvil: Additional data plans, I guess. Okay, I'm not envious then :)
22:49.10lcukyou have to pay more for long distance internet
22:49.15range:)
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22:49.26javispedrob-man16: are you using a vm too?
22:49.36b-man16yup
22:49.40SpeedEvilAh - my DSL has synced again - so I can stop using 3G.
22:49.42SpeedEvilstabs.
22:49.43b-man16virtualbox
22:49.46javispedrowhere are you running xephyr?
22:49.56wazdOmg, Eldar on t.m.o.
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22:50.42SpeedEvilsighs.
22:51.27javispedrosighs at tmo thread
22:51.29wazdSo much strive to show n920 in  his profile
22:51.42b-man16javispedro: i'm running it within virtualbox in ubuntu
22:52.06b-man16(9.10)
22:53.08javispedrob-man16: maybe http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/49848 ? :P
22:53.49javispedro(first google hit, not that I ever experienced that)
22:55.39lcukwazd, whats he gonna be like when he finds out he missed out on the n930 \o/
22:56.47qwerty12_N810lcuk: What are you talking about? I mean, he "already gets all the devices".
22:56.58lcukhe mustv missed the memo then
22:57.37javispedrohas a n9000 with builtin granade launcher
22:57.44qwerty12_N810lcuk: With contacts like his in his phonebook?! /s
22:57.53lcukpah javispedro so last week
22:58.10mavhcbut does your phone have an extra large 5?
22:58.11b-man16xD
23:00.37lcukin 10 years time, people will still be wondering whether bringing in King C. Gillette to maemo was a good move.  a 5 screen tablet seems too much for some people.
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23:01.05SpeedEvil_wants_
23:01.14lcukyeah :)
23:01.16SpeedEvilA foldable tablet would be awesome.
23:01.25lcukmultipule cohesive units acting as one is desirable
23:01.33lcukmultiple
23:01.42javispedrowonders if the n9000 will still have ir port.
23:01.52lcukneural interface
23:01.58javispedrono.
23:02.00javispedroI want my IR port!
23:02.01SpeedEvilImagine a n900 where you could grab the top of the screen, pull, and it unfolds to a 3*10" display
23:02.15johnxyeah, that was the readius concept
23:02.19qwerty12_N810I just want a tablet with the ability to alert you if there are northerners around you
23:02.21johnxthey couldn't seem to get to market
23:02.23lcukSpeedEvil, more like if you could spread a deck of cards across the table
23:02.33lcukand have the entire surface just appear :)
23:02.51lcuksmall area - just one
23:02.56lcukor maybe 2 ;)
23:03.16SpeedEvillcuk: that too
23:03.46lcukthey would have to know where abouts they were in relation to each other tho
23:04.02SpeedEvillcuk: but that solution has the problem that overlap is hard to do
23:04.09lcukmmm really
23:04.10SpeedEvillcuk: I want seamless edges
23:04.29lcukbezelless devices are possible
23:04.49lcukbut doubt you would get one in near future
23:04.49SpeedEvillcuk: so it looks like a 3*10" display, not a segmented one
23:04.58SpeedEvilbezelless devices are not really possible at the moment
23:04.58lcuklook at the lcd walls in use in tv studios
23:05.08SpeedEvilthey are thin bezel, not bezelless
23:05.10lcukthe seams use a lens
23:05.21lcukand remove appearance
23:05.28SpeedEvilyeah - that doesn't work well for high-res text
23:05.29lcukor you can use projection methods
23:05.32lcukand blending
23:05.34lcukits possible
23:05.36SpeedEvilWhich they don't care about
23:05.39lcukbut impractical on small devices
23:06.07lcukdepending on the fresnel lens and design of components it could be eliminates
23:06.08lcukd
23:06.24lcukbut on the whole, a windowed effect isnt that bad
23:06.37ShadowJKI wonder if it's not really an IR port, but bitbanging the proximity sensor's emitter
23:06.46SpeedEvillcuk: I disagree.
23:06.57SpeedEvillcuk: It sucks for my primary use-case - reading text split over screens
23:06.59lcukthen your dream wont be a reality for a while :P
23:07.10lcukjust buy a bigger tablet
23:07.19javispedroShadowJK: well, there's a window on a side of the "gadget"
23:07.20SpeedEvillcuk: I really want some e-ink film so I can do this.
23:07.37SpeedEvillcuk: a 2cm*10cm wand. The screen is wrapped round it.
23:07.38Tiredyou just need your pixels on a stretchable material...
23:07.56SpeedEvillcuk: e-ink screen. You unroll the screen, and drag the wand over it, and it prints.
23:07.56Tiredresolution would stay the same, but you could just pull the screen to the desired size
23:08.04SpeedEvillcuk: drag the wand back, and it reprints
23:08.29pupnikFailed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/dists/diablo/sdk/Release.gpg  Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
23:08.32pupnikFailed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/dists/diablo/tools/Release.gpg  Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
23:08.34pupnikFailed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/diablo/Release.gpg  Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
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23:08.40TiredSTOP!
23:08.45SpeedEvilhammertime!
23:09.02mavhccan't download this
23:09.06lcukSpeedEvil, i know your principle, but its not gonna be practical to have a flexi screen
23:09.16SpeedEvillcuk: why not?
23:09.46SpeedEvillcuk: This is more for a cheap large-screen book reader, it's not an internet access device.
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23:09.48lcukrolling unrolling will cause lots of stress
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23:09.56lcuki like the folding all in one one ive seen
23:09.58SpeedEvillcuk: The screen is _completely_ passive
23:10.30SpeedEvillcuk: It has _no_ electronics. Simply a e-ink layer, laminated with a conductive transparent plastic film. And that's it.
23:10.52lcukoh jees, thats worse than i thought lol
23:11.02lcukjust go look at reusable paper - which uses eink
23:11.05lcukits already there
23:11.08lcukyou can buy it
23:11.20SpeedEvilPlease point me to a source - I haven't seen any.
23:12.08SpeedEvilThere have been lots of 'oooh - wouldn't it be nice in the future' announcements.
23:12.20SpeedEvilI have yet to see where I can buy a ream.
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23:14.09mavhchow is the eink controlled?
23:14.39SpeedEvilmavhc: in the above case - by an electrostatic printer in the wand
23:14.53lcukok SpeedEvil i misread, you can buy it but its not fully out lol
23:15.24SpeedEvillcuk: I can't find anywhere where I can buy one sheet.
23:15.32SpeedEvilMaybe my google-fu sucks.
23:15.45SpeedEvil(for under $100)
23:16.52javispedroeink! lovely
23:17.37SpeedEvilthinks of bacon.
23:20.33johnxSpeedEvil, I'll sell you a sheet of bacon for $100
23:20.49lcuke-bacon :D
23:20.59lcukits reusable
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23:22.00SpeedEvilA bacon-printer. You'll never look at spam email the same way again.
23:22.52lcukbah
23:23.03lcuki found the article about erasable toilet paper
23:23.34range*snicker*?
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23:36.22pupnikok fixed
23:36.24pupnikneed to run sudo /scratchbox/sbin/sbox_ctl restart
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23:50.20lcukhey fiferboy \o

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