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| 02:10.26 | hachi | I have a nokia n810, I'm trying to figure out how you can flash it without MS windows |
| 02:10.40 | hachi | I got rid of windows many years ago |
| 02:10.51 | hachi | trying to erase the whole thing though |
| 02:10.59 | hachi | everyone says the only way is to reflash the device |
| 02:11.23 | pupnik_ | hi |
| 02:11.37 | pupnik_ | i reflash using linux |
| 02:12.10 | hachi | how? |
| 02:12.16 | hachi | I can't even find links to a firmware image |
| 02:12.23 | hachi | the main link on nokiausa.com is to a .exe file |
| 02:12.57 | LinuxCode | hachi, hold |
| 02:13.19 | LinuxCode | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/d3.php |
| 02:13.32 | LinuxCode | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ |
| 02:13.34 | LinuxCode | actually |
| 02:19.24 | hachi | thank you |
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| 02:24.44 | hachi | bleh |
| 02:24.52 | hachi | that doesn't appear to have cleared out the 'memory card' |
| 02:24.56 | hachi | as the device calls it |
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| 02:31.12 | pupnik_ | hachi: it shouldn't wipe anything off either internal 2GB flash or the miniSD card |
| 02:31.20 | hachi | I would like it to |
| 02:31.34 | pupnik_ | why, the OS is not on the 2GB card |
| 02:31.43 | hachi | I'm giving the device to a friend |
| 02:31.47 | hachi | I had ssh keys on it |
| 02:32.08 | hachi | I'd like to make sure there isn't a copy of things I want to keep secure going to someone else |
| 02:32.18 | pupnik_ | cat /dev/random to the device or smth |
| 02:32.38 | pupnik_ | or copy big files over to the card |
| 02:32.42 | pupnik_ | fill it up |
| 02:32.47 | hachi | I'm not worried like that |
| 02:32.56 | hachi | I'm just trying to get the device to delete all files |
| 02:33.00 | hachi | the fast delete |
| 02:33.12 | hachi | I'm not being paranoid, I'm just trying to clean the device like it just came from the factory |
| 02:34.46 | pupnik_ | rm -rF /media/mmc2 then |
| 02:35.01 | pupnik_ | rm -rF /media/mmc2/* rather |
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| 03:09.24 | GeneralAntilles | Or reformat it. |
| 03:10.42 | Pavlov | reflashes his n810 |
| 03:11.30 | GeneralAntilles | Pavlov, it was cruel enough the first time. |
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| 03:11.39 | GeneralAntilles | We're going to have to criminalize that or something. |
| 03:11.56 | GeneralAntilles | (bunch of perverts in here . . .) |
| 03:12.01 | Pavlov | heh |
| 03:12.18 | Pavlov | all i really want is an 80211a radio in here |
| 03:12.35 | GeneralAntilles | Really? |
| 03:12.50 | GeneralAntilles | n seems likely in the RX-51, but no a. ;) |
| 03:12.51 | Pavlov | yeah, our building is basically screwed on the 2.4ghz spectrum |
| 03:12.56 | GeneralAntilles | Ah |
| 03:13.14 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, lead walls here. I have 4 APs covering about 2800 sq-ft. |
| 03:13.22 | Pavlov | i've got an AP above my desk |
| 03:13.26 | Pavlov | doesn't really help:( |
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| 03:56.14 | xnt14 | hmmm |
| 03:56.14 | xnt14 | xD |
| 03:56.22 | xnt14 | I just noticed b-man xD |
| 03:56.44 | xnt14 | ~seen FireFox16 |
| 03:56.47 | infobot | firefox16 <n=b-man16@cpe-98-30-195-117.woh.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 26d 23h 29m 56s ago, saying: 'damn :('. |
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| 03:59.10 | Macer | wtf |
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| 03:59.20 | Macer | there is a green lantern movie |
| 03:59.25 | Macer | and this one is white |
| 04:05.40 | t_s_o | i think i know of at least 2 white green lanterns, and 1 black... |
| 04:12.45 | xnt14 | im back |
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| 04:39.19 | Luddek1 | ... sorry, just excited, worked long |
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| 04:46.02 | DarwinSurvivor_ | has anybody else had problems with the screen not turning off on their n810? |
| 04:46.40 | DarwinSurvivor_ | mine's been doing this for about a month now and i can't figure out why |
| 04:49.03 | Luddek1 | tried reflashing? |
| 04:51.13 | DarwinSurvivor_ | i was trying to avoid that |
| 04:51.31 | DarwinSurvivor_ | it took a while to get msn/yahoo/icq all working natively with the chat app |
| 04:51.53 | DarwinSurvivor_ | i know some apps can keep the screen lit (video apps, etc) |
| 04:52.03 | DarwinSurvivor_ | is there any way to find out what (if any) apps are holding the screen on? |
| 04:53.37 | Luddek1 | I don't know. You could try to kill some process and see if the problem still occur |
| 04:54.26 | DarwinSurvivor_ | hmm |
| 04:54.31 | DarwinSurvivor_ | i guess that might work |
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| 07:08.13 | aquatix | morning all |
| 07:08.22 | Stskeeps | morning |
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| 07:28.47 | RST38h | moorning |
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| 08:14.21 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N810: some patches to your drag lock patch: http://gitorious.org/mer/hildon-desktop/commit/181d74ced14e55cc4f5e76315881ed014c3748a7 , http://gitorious.org/mer/hildon-desktop/commit/26b02fd7122c32a570fc1845985f8bfea865e78f , http://gitorious.org/mer/hildon-desktop/commit/6798e0f0b097d91afc60d1d74f9d0efdc1d2fb35 |
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| 08:14.44 | Stskeeps | well, and your own patch included obviously :P |
| 08:14.54 | qwerty12_N810 | Thanks |
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| 08:15.24 | Stskeeps | np, from saju |
| 08:15.46 | qwerty12_N810 | thanks saju too, if he ever sees this |
| 08:17.00 | RST38h | ...speeding the development a 20-foot, 30,000-lb bomb known as Massive Ordnance Penetrator. This weapon is intended to annihilate underground bunkers and other hardened sites (read: long-range missile or underground nuke development) up to 200 ft. underground.... |
| 08:18.03 | Stskeeps | RST38h: have to build a proper arsenal for hitting satan's underground lair! |
| 08:18.48 | qwerty12_N810 | The gconf schema file is the same as the one I did :P |
| 08:19.09 | Stskeeps | ah, i think the path may be different |
| 08:19.25 | Stskeeps | yours is in /applets or something |
| 08:19.31 | qwerty12_N810 | But, but, but, I like my path |
| 08:19.47 | qwerty12_N810 | It was well chosen. But, anyway, *shrug* |
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| 08:20.20 | RST38h | Sts: After old good Saddam went home, who is the next designated Satan? =) |
| 08:20.28 | Stskeeps | RST38h: obama, obviously |
| 08:20.28 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 08:20.38 | RST38h | That would be...mm...self defeating |
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| 08:24.06 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 08:24.24 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: "pipes of garage.*"? |
| 08:24.34 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: my bad, i meant the mer feed :) |
| 08:30.49 | Stskeeps | yay, i'm on planet :P |
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| 08:34.47 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: Ah. Not easily: the problem is that it links to Nabble which doesn't do it. I wonder if I could make the article link any URL which is seen in the subject. That might work |
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| 09:53.42 | VDVsx | dneary, ping |
| 09:53.50 | dneary | VDVsx: pong |
| 09:54.14 | VDVsx | dneary, Kenneth (Qt webkit) asked me yesterday to put their presentation in day 2, if possible, because he has to go to the Qt dev days after the summit |
| 09:54.27 | dneary | VDVsx: No problem for me |
| 09:54.38 | VDVsx | :) |
| 10:00.51 | VDVsx | dneary, btw, by the chat in tmo, I understood that we will probably ditch the round table, since a similar session will be held on the first day, so we will need to make a little arrangement on the schedule, or find a good session for the last slot of the summit :) |
| 10:01.04 | dneary | VDVsx: Yeah, I got that |
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| 17:55.26 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | Maemo Summit 2009: Call for Content Now Open! -> http://tinyurl.com/mvbcdy | Maemo Summit 2009: Registration now open - http://tinyurl.com/lumhbk |
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| 18:01.02 | johnsq | Hi |
| 18:01.06 | Stskeeps | 'lo johnsq |
| 18:01.14 | slonopotamus | i'm back. it took longer than i expected |
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| 18:01.54 | Stskeeps | checkup or? |
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| 18:08.07 | talig | Hi everyone. I got a quirky question: Is there any place that describes exactly what of pygtk was ported to maemo? Since gtk.ver gives 2.14, I have methods working that were introduced in 2.4 and methods not working though introduced in 2.12.... |
| 18:09.34 | lizardo | talig: do you have specific examples ? |
| 18:09.35 | slonopotamus | wow, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=308137 wasn't closed WONTFIX |
| 18:09.39 | slonopotamus | err |
| 18:09.51 | slonopotamus | i meant https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4874 |
| 18:10.05 | talig | lizardo: for not working: ToolButton.set_tooltip_text |
| 18:10.51 | talig | lizardo: Docs say 2.12, works on my laptop (2.16), doesn't on the N810 (thought version claimed is 2.14) |
| 18:11.25 | Stskeeps | slonopotamus: i really think the problematique may be they can't aid breaking regulation or something |
| 18:11.31 | Stskeeps | FCC and co are nasty people |
| 18:11.36 | lizardo | talig: what do you mean by "not working", the method is at least there : |
| 18:11.41 | lizardo | >>> gtk.ToolButton.set_tooltip_text |
| 18:11.43 | lizardo | <method 'set_tooltip_text' of 'gtk.ToolItem' objects> |
| 18:11.54 | Stskeeps | slonopotamus: but yes, you're the first person to directly ask |
| 18:12.03 | lizardo | talig: hmm |
| 18:12.15 | lizardo | talig: nao I see that you are talking about Diablo right ? |
| 18:12.21 | lizardo | nao -> now |
| 18:12.22 | talig | lizardo: not working == crashes claiming ToolButton does not have such an attribute (though I clearly use ()) |
| 18:12.27 | talig | lizardo: bingo |
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| 18:13.31 | lizardo | talig: Diablo has pygtk 2.12 |
| 18:13.47 | lizardo | talig: is it supposed to have such method? |
| 18:14.20 | talig | Supposed to have been introduced in 2.12. And I have the reverse example now: set_tooltip(tooltips, tip_text=None, tip_private=None) for the same item, supposed to be valid as of 2.4 |
| 18:14.35 | talig | it doesn't show the tooltip - but it doesn't crash either. |
| 18:15.13 | talig | lizardo: As for set_tooltip_text, docs say: "This method is available in PyGTK 2.12 and above." |
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| 18:16.58 | javispedro | talig, it may be PyGTK 2.12 but Diablo's GTK version is 2.10 AFAIK |
| 18:17.45 | talig | javispedro: I'm really getting confused here. a) lizardo claimed 2.12. b) Still doesn't explain why things that should be available as of 2.4(!) don't make it crash |
| 18:18.28 | talig | javispedro: and if I run python, import gtk and do: gtk.ver on the n810 I get: (2,14,1) |
| 18:18.32 | lizardo | talig: I thing the problem is that the underlying gtk libs in Diablo don't have this method: http://maemo.org/api_refs/4.1/gtk+2.0-2.10.12/libgtk2.0/GtkToolButton.html |
| 18:18.47 | javispedro | ^^^seen the URL? version 2.10 |
| 18:19.21 | lizardo | talig: even though we have PyGtk 2.12, what determines what will be in the binding is that underlying gtk libs |
| 18:19.48 | lizardo | talig: so even if we have pygtk 2.12 in diablo, as it has libgtk 2.10 , Pygtk will disable the 2.12 features |
| 18:20.00 | talig | javispedro: I really don't care what version it is, I care for consistency - which doesn't exist. |
| 18:20.16 | talig | lizardo: It doesn't have set_tooltip() either, but that doesn't crash. |
| 18:21.01 | lizardo | talig: it exists: simply follow that 2.10 docs, unfortunately , the PyGtk documentation hardcodes references to the PyGtk versions, what it should have been mentioning the underlying C library version |
| 18:21.06 | talig | lizardo: strike the last one. it's in ToolItem |
| 18:22.02 | talig | lizardo: Thanks. Gone to make the damned tooltips work. wish me luck... |
| 18:22.13 | lizardo | talig: good luck :) |
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| 18:23.34 | pupnik | anybody interested in getting a boat in amsterdam oct 8-12? would run to about 45 euro/night |
| 18:23.58 | pupnik | you get the boat to yourself, 4 beds, kitchen, a nice deck to chill and drink beers |
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| 18:25.52 | talig | lizardo: Thanks. Got it to work, it behaves weird, but I suppose that just the way it is... |
| 18:25.54 | talig | meh. |
| 18:26.34 | lizardo | talig: probably due to (lack of) hildonizations, but I'm no expert on it :) |
| 18:27.43 | talig | lizardo: elaborate? The weird behavior is that if you touch the icons like you normally would - they're just being clicked, it takes a delicate hand to have it marked without clicking to show the tooltip |
| 18:28.05 | lardman | wonders whether to watch more A-Team |
| 18:30.03 | pupnik | heh @ brainrot |
| 18:30.18 | lizardo | talig: well, I don't do gui programming myself, but I keep seeing on maemo-developers complaints about some gtk widgets not working/showing properly on Maemo... the usual answer is that that widget was not adapted to be used on Maemo, and is available only because Gtk has it.. anyway, other people might know better :) |
| 18:30.26 | pupnik | lardman: wats new |
| 18:30.48 | lardman | pupnik: hey, not much, got married now less busy :) |
| 18:31.04 | pupnik | o/ |
| 18:31.08 | pupnik | congrats |
| 18:31.20 | lardman | thanks :) |
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| 18:31.35 | lardman | or were you talking about the business bit :D |
| 18:31.49 | lardman | s/business/busyness |
| 18:32.27 | lardman | needs to stop typing in word processors and remember how to spell |
| 18:33.36 | johnsq | what is busyness? |
| 18:33.55 | RST38h | the state of being busy? |
| 18:35.14 | lardman | that was my thought anyway, but the more I look at it the stranger the spelling seems, I think I need to stop for the day |
| 18:35.56 | RST38h | let us ask google |
| 18:36.18 | lardman | ~google busyness |
| 18:36.22 | RST38h | 665000 for busyness |
| 18:36.48 | RST38h | Both Merriam Webster and TheDictionary know itr |
| 18:37.12 | johnsq | german dict http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=thMx..&search=busyness also |
| 18:37.43 | lardman | yeah that's the one |
| 18:38.06 | pupnik | oh just wondering how things were going |
| 18:38.23 | RST38h | ah German... |
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| 18:39.21 | lardman | pupnik: not bad anyway, other than the spelling :) and you? |
| 18:40.03 | lardman | RST38h: thanks, glad I'm not going mad (too mad anyway) |
| 18:40.44 | RST38h | lardman: check the fridge, somebody lit a light there |
| 18:41.14 | pupnik | great. got operation on herniated disc, and pain all gone! birds singing, sun shining. would be fun to get a boat for the amsterdam summit, but i'll probably just sleep in the car |
| 18:41.17 | lardman | ah, well I know they didn't 'cos I blew the circuit the other day while trying to fit a new bulb |
| 18:41.36 | lardman | pupnik: glad your back's sorted |
| 18:42.46 | RST38h | heh |
| 18:43.07 | RST38h | Meanwhile, the God is busy sabotaging LHC |
| 18:43.10 | lardman | I didn't realise it was a 240V circuit in there, lucky I didn't do any more damage! |
| 18:43.28 | lardman | again? more leaking He? |
| 18:43.39 | RST38h | Multiple magnet failures |
| 18:44.01 | RST38h | Cause unknown, but we all know =) |
| 18:44.24 | lardman | yeah, he's got to make up a bit of new theory so we can find something out |
| 18:44.41 | GAN800 | loves potluck. |
| 18:45.00 | lardman | I imagine he's regretting the decision to allow atoms to be divisible ;) |
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| 18:46.13 | RST38h | lardman: prolly not as much as the premature termination of large flying carnivorous lizards |
| 18:47.07 | lardman | yeah but they didn't exist, he just put their bones in the ground, another mistake - more work |
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| 18:51.31 | slonopotamus | Stskeeps, it's all about intent :) i want to respect regulations. but in order to do that, need some docs :) |
| 18:51.41 | Stskeeps | slonopotamus: that's a good argument :P |
| 18:52.20 | caotic | I just hear in the linux action show that there is a new tablet is just out there, havent been able to find anything about it ? do you guys know anything about this ? |
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| 18:53.08 | slonopotamus | tried to understand what Quim meant in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=308736&postcount=25 but failed. |
| 18:53.34 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: will find it |
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| 18:54.25 | lardman | slonopotamus: basically that it would be useful for someone to make a prioritised list of components to be opened |
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| 18:55.03 | lardman | pats himself on the back for some nice working phase-unwrapping code |
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| 18:56.31 | slonopotamus | lardman, meh. so making bme â1 will suddenly convince nokia to open it? i doubt |
| 18:57.07 | lardman | probably not, but at least then Quim can skip the ones that won't be opened and go to the next one.... |
| 18:57.14 | lardman | etc |
| 18:57.21 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=304018&highlight=ssu#post304018 if you still need it |
| 18:58.15 | Stskeeps | Jaffa, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=308832 |
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| 18:59.59 | woglinde | re |
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| 19:00.25 | lardman | slonopotamus: I think Stskeeps had a list somewhere on the Mer pages already now I think about it |
| 19:00.40 | Stskeeps | i think we have a few actually |
| 19:00.45 | slonopotamus | lardman, yeah, i read it |
| 19:01.20 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: maemo.org website is all CC by-sa 3.0? |
| 19:01.41 | lardman | bbiab |
| 19:04.53 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: reason why i'm asking is simple.. does this mean that anything under api_refs is CC by-sa 3.0 too |
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| 19:06.59 | lcuk | lardman|afk ping |
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| 19:08.25 | woglinde | hoi lcuk |
| 19:08.34 | lcuk | hiya woglinde \o |
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| 19:09.28 | lcuk | are you done with college/uni now woglinde or have you got more to do |
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| 19:19.21 | woglinde | lcuk 3 oral exams, the thesis(I started it, but not got very far) and a report about pratical work |
| 19:19.44 | lcuk | ahh ok, so you should be finished by next week :D |
| 19:19.49 | woglinde | the last is ready since 3/4 year but need some polish |
| 19:19.56 | woglinde | lol |
| 19:22.14 | RST38h | fun |
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| 19:26.34 | lcuk | woglinde, i thought you were from poland? |
| 19:27.40 | woglinde | lcuk lol |
| 19:27.49 | woglinde | berlin is not in poland |
| 19:28.02 | lcuk | yeah, that would be a bit of a commute |
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| 19:31.17 | Stskeeps | ponders when he gets barred from submitting bugs :P |
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| 19:32.37 | woglinde | jesus |
| 19:32.39 | RST38h | Sts: The real question is whether you get tired first =) |
| 19:32.52 | woglinde | what the hell I need for this damned dsp |
| 19:33.11 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, I'd've been barred way before you. ;) |
| 19:33.11 | woglinde | 5 software packages from TI |
| 19:35.08 | Stskeeps | GAN800: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4877 (Request clarification of license for API documentation published) will be interesting in terms of how Nokia wants to act |
| 19:38.01 | woglinde | ~lart TI |
| 19:38.01 | infobot | slaps a compatible dib on TI's head |
| 19:38.45 | woglinde | why the hell they dont ship a eclipse plugin instead of full flavor jre and eclipse |
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| 19:49.15 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, besides, the people holding the keys aren't Nokians. ;) |
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| 20:55.39 | slonopotamus | Luke-Jr, kde 4.3 is out. changelog lists lower memory usage for plasma. time to try? :) |
| 20:55.56 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: already 2 steps ahead of you |
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| 21:46.55 | Jaffa | nwidger: This is the best one, AFAIK |
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| 21:47.26 | nwidger | Jaffa: ah, thanks |
| 21:47.47 | nwidger | i was just wondering if anyone has gotten google street working with maemo mapper in the latest release (2.6.2 i think) |
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