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| 00:01.15 | Macer | goddamn tmob with their 1700 |
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| 05:46.52 | tomdavidson | hello, i would like to use "load applet" to activate swap space on my ext sd, but am having troubles figuring it out. anyone know? http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/load-applet/ |
| 05:49.16 | tomdavidson | swap space as in a partition and not a swapfile |
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| 06:00.50 | qwerty12_N810 | It |
| 06:01.16 | qwerty12_N810 | 's hardcoded to only find /media/mmc2/.swap in /proc/swaps |
| 06:05.29 | tomdavidson | that applet (and the load-applet-run for OS2006) are suppose to mnt a swap partition as defined in the fstab ... swapon -a ? this way i can deactivate pop the card and than reactivate on the new card with out opening the console |
| 06:05.31 | tomdavidson | http://maemo.org/community/oldwiki/howto-createswap/ |
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| 08:41.21 | Stskeeps | wb qwerty12_N810 |
| 08:42.03 | qwerty12_N810 | Thank you |
| 08:45.17 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 08:45.29 | Stskeeps | morning jaffa |
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| 08:49.49 | lcuk | mornin jaffa/sts/qwerty |
| 08:50.09 | qwerty12_N810 | mornin' |
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| 09:07.25 | lcuk | i cant use windows to do iphone development can i |
| 09:08.19 | ShadowJK | i think you need mac |
| 09:08.43 | lcuk | thats a bit crap lol |
| 09:08.57 | LinuxCode | isnt that what hackintosh is for ? |
| 09:09.05 | lcuk | but thats fake |
| 09:09.26 | LinuxCode | well, if they want to be nazis, for you to be bale to dev |
| 09:09.31 | LinuxCode | able* |
| 09:09.32 | lcuk | and doesnt really show the right face |
| 09:09.49 | LinuxCode | lcuk, then dont bother |
| 09:09.57 | lcuk | just pondering a few things :) |
| 09:10.21 | LinuxCode | is fixing his system |
| 09:10.27 | VDVsx | lcuk, vm with OSX inside windows |
| 09:10.39 | VDVsx | like to do symbian dev in linux or mac :( |
| 09:10.41 | lcuk | but osx isnt licensable is it |
| 09:10.46 | VDVsx | lcuk, yes |
| 09:10.52 | VDVsx | 150 ⬠|
| 09:10.53 | lcuk | o_O |
| 09:10.55 | VDVsx | here |
| 09:11.05 | lcuk | waits for an apple.com link |
| 09:11.12 | LinuxCode | too |
| 09:11.43 | lcuk | VDVsx, even maemo dev expects a vm ;) |
| 09:11.53 | qwerty12_N810 | I thought that Mac OS X was only licensed for Apple computers. Not that I really care, but... |
| 09:12.09 | lcuk | \o/ yesssss i have image thumbnailing working |
| 09:12.30 | LinuxCode | lcuk, you having on liqbase again ? |
| 09:12.42 | LinuxCode | hacing |
| 09:12.46 | LinuxCode | god |
| 09:12.46 | lcuk | just left the import running for a bit and it worked |
| 09:12.46 | VDVsx | lcuk, in windows and mac yes, so we are in the same foot ;) |
| 09:12.51 | LinuxCode | this stupid laptop battery |
| 09:12.55 | LinuxCode | I have to send it back |
| 09:12.59 | LinuxCode | hacking even |
| 09:13.03 | lcuk | laptop battery makes you do typos? |
| 09:13.08 | VDVsx | qwerty12_N810, I guess you are right |
| 09:13.09 | LinuxCode | yes, I have both in |
| 09:13.17 | LinuxCode | it affects the keyboard |
| 09:13.20 | lcuk | electric shocks? |
| 09:13.25 | LinuxCode | if I remove the new one, its fine |
| 09:13.28 | LinuxCode | lcuk, possibly |
| 09:13.34 | LinuxCode | Im sending it back |
| 09:14.21 | lcuk | yeah, im hacking getting every single sketch and photo and screenshot in liqbase ever taken :) |
| 09:14.25 | LinuxCode | anyway, time for a shower while yum finishes the upgrade, it was meant to finish before it crashed on me |
| 09:14.45 | LinuxCode | lcuk, ;-} |
| 09:14.48 | LinuxCode | bbiab |
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| 09:38.05 | lcuk | mornin wazd \o |
| 09:38.24 | wazd | lcuk: heya |
| 09:40.52 | lcuk | wazd, ive been playing with multitouch again, and pondering some things. it appears as if the bottom right corner that i wanted to use has an issue |
| 09:41.23 | lcuk | if i press in that corner with thumb and use finger elsewhere, i get innacurate readings |
| 09:41.57 | lcuk | i tihnk its hardware - but it throws me out from wanting to use vertical position for changing list styling |
| 09:42.10 | lcuk | so im pondering a horizontal wipe :) |
| 09:43.00 | wazd | lcuk: heh :) |
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| 09:59.10 | udovdh | hello |
| 09:59.21 | udovdh | got a working ip-phone app for the n810? |
| 10:03.04 | Myrtti | udovdh: you mean sip/voip? |
| 10:03.11 | udovdh | indeed |
| 10:03.29 | Myrtti | udovdh: the one built in works fine, given you don't try to use it with ekiga.net account |
| 10:04.16 | udovdh | built in? hmm. must look again |
| 10:04.17 | udovdh | thanks |
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| 10:31.15 | lcuk | hey Myrtti hows tricks now |
| 10:31.19 | lcuk | which country are you in |
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| 11:07.56 | mavhc | is there a pc sip client that'll give me decent errors so I can work out why the voip system I'm connecting to isn't letting it connect? |
| 11:08.28 | AStorm | isn't letting, or isn't getting a connection? |
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| 11:09.16 | AStorm | I suspect asterisk in client mode has proper error messages |
| 11:16.08 | mavhc | according to random things the cisco voip controller might do sip, there's a sip port open, but who knows |
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| 11:22.58 | Myrtti | lcuk: Finland |
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| 13:58.15 | lcuk | interesting. |
| 13:58.38 | lcuk | multitouch list scaling works :) |
| 13:58.48 | Firebird | "multitouch" |
| 13:59.03 | lcuk | :) |
| 13:59.33 | lcuk | well the list works nicely when i use it with one hand, when i use CTRL type thumb modifier, it scales the list items |
| 13:59.53 | lcuk | (based on X position of second finger) |
| 14:00.06 | lcuk | releasing them makes it go back to being a normal list |
| 14:00.30 | Firebird | try sliding your finger quickly to trick it into multitouch detection |
| 14:01.03 | lcuk | but if i do it quickly it wont start and be sat in bottom corner not moving |
| 14:01.13 | lcuk | (which is the trigger for the starting point) |
| 14:01.26 | lcuk | "a fixed thumb" |
| 14:01.37 | Firebird | ah |
| 14:01.51 | lcuk | but anyway |
| 14:02.04 | lcuk | the multitouch tries to know that you have not broken the laws of physics |
| 14:02.13 | Firebird | the multitouch in liqbase is easily done with one finger |
| 14:02.42 | lcuk | resolution dependent :) |
| 14:02.49 | Firebird | heh |
| 14:03.17 | lcuk | anyway :) works now and i can tweak, capability is there for me to expand on properly |
| 14:03.28 | Firebird | nice |
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| 14:15.47 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N810: happen to know how to switch boot state in DSME? i mean, it should be possible since we can switch to non-charger-mode by holding down power at charging screen |
| 14:16.53 | qwerty12_N810 | Stskeeps: Dunno. I use my writable bootreason patch and echo pwr_key to bootreason to make dsme think the tablet has been started with the power key |
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| 14:17.54 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N810: yeah.. i'm pondering if we should include that in mer kernel |
| 14:18.01 | Stskeeps | you have the patch anywhere? |
| 14:19.03 | qwerty12_N810 | Should be on qwerty12.qole.org but it seems to be down ATM |
| 14:19.09 | Stskeeps | k |
| 14:20.03 | mace0 | bujaka! |
| 14:20.49 | mace0 | i know everyone is using VNC like mad for all their remote use needs, but i wonder if anyone here has been using X11 to the same effect? |
| 14:23.42 | mace0 | i should set up a proper network between asus eee and NIT, both running linux, with enough X11 and other real unix things between the machines |
| 14:24.45 | mace0 | ssh is a start, then comes X11 and filesharing with NFS, samba or whatever works best over wireless, perhaps flaky connections |
| 14:25.45 | suihkulokki | mace0: X11 remote apps should work just fine on NITs |
| 14:26.15 | suihkulokki | mace0: the trouble is that if the X11 connection breaks (due to flaky wireless or whatever) the remote X11 app gets *killed* |
| 14:27.23 | mace0 | suihkulokki: aha, and VNC is immunune to that? |
| 14:27.30 | mace0 | suihkulokki: hieno nikki muuten :) |
| 14:27.56 | suihkulokki | joo, vnc on immuuni sille :) |
| 14:32.52 | mace0 | hmm, what does vnc do if the connection drops? |
| 14:33.27 | mace0 | is thinking |
| 14:33.28 | mace0 | nevermind |
| 14:33.46 | mace0 | i wanna try x11 anyway... i'll regret later |
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| 14:34.18 | mace0 | nfs over wireless sounds like asking for trouble ;) |
| 14:35.16 | mace0 | one more thing: on N800, does the virtual keyboard work with x11? |
| 14:35.43 | mace0 | i remember i had trouble with that earlier (maybe a year ago), but i don't know if that has been cured since |
| 14:36.10 | mace0 | i've been quite frustrated with NIT all in all and got myself a netbook instead |
| 14:36.27 | mace0 | now i think n800 could be a nice companion for it. n800 alone doesn't suffice |
| 14:36.43 | mace0 | likes to type a lot, if you didn't notice :) |
| 14:38.17 | suihkulokki | remote X11 apps and NIT VKB don't probably work well |
| 14:38.31 | mace0 | bugger |
| 14:38.41 | suihkulokki | the vnc client app comes with a built-in vkb if I remember correclty |
| 14:38.54 | mace0 | yeah that what i reckoned too |
| 14:40.00 | mace0 | i typically run a headless emacs under screen, and connect to it with emacsclient(1) and spawn a window over X11. that environment would be ok if the x11 window (and emacsclient) die |
| 14:47.51 | mace0 | shit, i don't want to invest to an n810 (or n900) before i get some value out of my n800, so better try vnc |
| 14:48.20 | mace0 | tcp/ip and x11 over bluetooth anyone? |
| 14:49.00 | mace0 | that's just wrong. but back in the day (with Athena Widgets, not GNOME and KDE), ppl used to run x11 over modems |
| 14:49.17 | suihkulokki | mace0: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PAN |
| 14:50.50 | mace0 | suihkulokki: lovely |
| 14:51.30 | suihkulokki | bt is much slower than wlan (duh), but otoh it will give you much better battery life |
| 14:53.06 | mace0 | yeah, that's what i have in mind |
| 14:54.06 | mace0 | i need to see if my ubuntu netbook can talk tcp/ip over bluetooth both towards the n800 in a private network and to the internet over my phone |
| 14:55.29 | mace0 | i might need to set up some virtual network devices and use a private address-space (192.168.*) between n800 and ubuntu |
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| 14:56.10 | mace0 | i'm sure this will break my ubuntu netbooks gnome applets that handle the internet connection |
| 14:56.19 | mace0 | *sigh* |
| 14:57.47 | mace0 | i cannot be bothered to get all geeky, but would like to find some use for my n800 |
| 14:58.25 | mace0 | it's useless with netvibes.com (too heavy site) and n800 as a mere wlan-photoframe is pointless |
| 15:01.17 | mace0 | otoh, n810 costs 22020ac new, less second hand |
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| 15:06.07 | mace0 | i'm outta here |
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| 15:17.04 | GAN800 | Who has experience with Windows to Wine migration that I can bug? |
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| 16:23.34 | lcuk | wazd, i was mucking about with one of those monitors today |
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| 16:24.20 | wazd | lcuk: I'm trying to find a place to see HP live in here |
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| 16:24.42 | lcuk | yeah, comet in the uk have them |
| 16:25.00 | lcuk | nice, but i was a bit disturbed about the stand, it didnt seem big enough |
| 16:26.18 | wazd | lcuk: there are some good VESA stands, that will allow you to place the display in any position you want :) |
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| 16:26.44 | lcuk | yeah i think if i get a new one ill get a big clamping one |
| 16:26.48 | orangey | hello all |
| 16:26.48 | lcuk | so i can move it to the wall |
| 16:26.55 | orangey | could I take some opinions on what kind of smart phone to buy? |
| 16:26.57 | lcuk | hi orangey \o |
| 16:27.15 | orangey | iphone vs. android vs. pre vs. windows mobile seem to be the major options |
| 16:27.29 | orangey | I'm a linux user, and obviously more free = better |
| 16:27.38 | orangey | though I recognize of those four options, there's no truly free one |
| 16:27.43 | lcuk | if those are the options, what are you doing in a maemo chan? |
| 16:27.55 | orangey | lcuk: People here share the same values I do |
| 16:28.09 | orangey | and probably have had the same conundrum |
| 16:28.13 | lcuk | i dont, i think the options you have supplied are not optimal |
| 16:28.22 | orangey | lcuk: what do you suggest? |
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| 16:29.04 | lcuk | maemo and mer are viable free open options :) |
| 16:29.35 | lcuk | put whatever you want on them |
| 16:29.39 | lcuk | write your own |
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| 16:34.06 | orangey | lcuk: Which smartphones run maemo or mer? |
| 16:34.29 | orangey | rather, which announced smartphones? |
| 16:34.54 | lcuk | openmoko runs mer |
| 16:35.15 | lcuk | dunno how well |
| 16:35.39 | lcuk | you are right tho, i missed your first comment, continue with the 4 flavors you had lol |
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| 16:41.09 | orangey | lcuk: I've been in here and at #mer asking for the past 6 mo if I should switch to Mer on my N810. Consistently, everybody tells me that it's not yet ready for prime time.. and my needs are minimal - good SIP and some kind of calendaring |
| 16:41.45 | lcuk | i understand entirely |
| 16:41.53 | lcuk | i also had a need for calendaring |
| 16:42.02 | lcuk | so i put my own take on it |
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| 16:45.33 | orangey | your own take? |
| 16:45.43 | orangey | p.s., have you tried seqretary? |
| 16:45.44 | orangey | amazing |
| 16:45.54 | orangey | all it's missing is sync, and it'll be the best by far |
| 16:46.31 | lcuk | calendar shown in here |
| 16:46.32 | lcuk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt7qB37sLLo |
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| 16:47.00 | lcuk | and as for syncing, i hope to have everything running smoothly v v v soon: http://liqbase.net/liqbase_net_preview.png |
| 16:52.56 | orangey | lcuk you made seqretary? |
| 16:53.08 | wazd | I wonder if there's any smart person to copy Palm's calendar app :) |
| 16:53.40 | lcuk | no orangey |
| 16:53.53 | lcuk | wazd, which bits in particular |
| 16:53.54 | zakkm | lcuk still using that youtube page eh? |
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| 16:54.06 | lcuk | zakkm, just in relation to the calendar |
| 16:54.38 | zakkm | could never get that working for me |
| 16:54.41 | zakkm | it wouldnt save the note |
| 16:54.49 | wazd | lcuk: every single bit :) |
| 16:54.50 | orangey | lcuk: what is that? |
| 16:54.56 | orangey | is that Mer? |
| 16:54.59 | orangey | or fremantle? |
| 16:55.11 | lcuk | then why copy it |
| 16:55.22 | lcuk | cant you get a palm emulator? (i thought you could) |
| 16:55.28 | wazd | lcuk: If you can't make better - vopy it :) |
| 16:55.30 | orangey | for maemo? |
| 16:55.33 | lcuk | orangey, thats liqbase on diablo :) |
| 16:55.35 | orangey | the palm emulator (garnet vm) is terrible |
| 16:55.45 | lcuk | or chinook |
| 16:55.48 | lcuk | or fremantle |
| 16:55.51 | lcuk | or ubuntu |
| 16:55.56 | orangey | never heard of it.. time to try it out : ) |
| 16:56.20 | lcuk | heh work in progress for now so very rusty - the original liqbase is nice and stable tho |
| 16:56.22 | orangey | is it in the regular reps, or garage? |
| 16:56.25 | lcuk | and what i started all the notes in |
| 16:56.51 | lcuk | i know you hate work in progresses lol |
| 16:56.57 | lcuk | but everything has to start somewhere |
| 16:57.14 | orangey | heh. |
| 16:57.25 | orangey | I don't hate them. it's just that I have to recognize their place. |
| 16:57.36 | orangey | at this moment in my life, stability is more important than adventure |
| 16:57.43 | orangey | my n810 is my primary phone |
| 16:57.53 | lcuk | yeah, i wont physically "release" liqbase until its ready |
| 16:58.07 | lcuk | its out there and in extras-devel, because thats what stage its upto |
| 16:58.32 | orangey | awesome |
| 16:58.32 | zakkm | how is it your primary phone? |
| 16:58.39 | orangey | zakkm: SIP |
| 16:58.43 | zakkm | in and out? |
| 16:58.50 | orangey | I pay $5.95 for unlimited incoming |
| 16:58.52 | orangey | callcentric.com |
| 16:58.57 | zakkm | my dad has free SIP |
| 16:59.01 | zakkm | he runs a SIP business lol |
| 16:59.04 | orangey | heh ; ) |
| 16:59.06 | orangey | which one? |
| 16:59.11 | zakkm | local |
| 16:59.19 | orangey | well, I'd love to dump my sip provider |
| 16:59.24 | zakkm | he did it for fun, didnt really uhh how you say get popular lol |
| 16:59.25 | orangey | it's always about picking compromises. |
| 16:59.48 | lcuk | :) compromise is what created liqbase itself |
| 16:59.49 | orangey | gizmo5 works always, but has almost radio quality with half-duplex |
| 17:00.01 | zakkm | why not full-duplex? |
| 17:00.05 | orangey | callcentric has excellent quality, but doesn't work half the time |
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| 17:00.07 | orangey | zakkm: no idea |
| 17:00.14 | orangey | zakkm: but its quality is truly terrible |
| 17:00.18 | zakkm | my dad uses gizmo to call, also uhh some other app works |
| 17:00.29 | zakkm | its this weird one.. it has a picture of a phone on it.. you dial and then it owrks |
| 17:00.38 | zakkm | has linux support too so that was cool |
| 17:00.45 | zakkm | pure binary, like liqbase :P |
| 17:01.08 | lcuk | wazd, regarding manually cloning palm calendaring - find me a decent overview and mae sure the PIM page on wiki is updated if it doesnt contain enough already |
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| 17:01.28 | lcuk | liqbase is all source |
| 17:01.29 | zakkm | orangey: people really pay 5.95 for unlimited incoming ? |
| 17:01.39 | orangey | I do |
| 17:01.46 | zakkm | hah i didnt mean it like that |
| 17:01.53 | zakkm | wondering if i should try expanding it sort of thing |
| 17:01.58 | orangey | what did your father charge? |
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| 17:02.02 | zakkm | it was free |
| 17:02.06 | zakkm | it was very basic |
| 17:02.21 | lcuk | https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:PIM |
| 17:02.27 | zakkm | tried putting ads on the site and all itself |
| 17:02.29 | wazd | lcuk: sorry but I really have no time for this :) |
| 17:02.52 | zakkm | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.52 | zakkm | --lcuk 22:25, 30 October 2008 (UTC) |
| 17:02.55 | zakkm | XD |
| 17:03.09 | lcuk | indeed |
| 17:04.28 | woglinde | hm did I already said that pbuilder rockz? |
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| 17:04.39 | zakkm | pbuilder? |
| 17:05.08 | woglinde | yeah for debian and ubuntu |
| 17:05.18 | zakkm | what does it do? |
| 17:05.25 | woglinde | sb2 uses some stuff similiar |
| 17:05.38 | zakkm | ahh package builder |
| 17:05.39 | woglinde | provides you a clean compile chroot |
| 17:05.55 | woglinde | without pollution of your hostsystem |
| 17:06.16 | woglinde | maemo online builder use it too I think |
| 17:08.06 | lcuk | zakkm, ive got that days notes up on screen now, as well as adding to the wiki i also made a load of things about evolution :P |
| 17:08.45 | lcuk | including one that says "multitple distinct views of the data tree" which is exactly what i am working on today! :D |
| 17:09.07 | zakkm | lol if only i knew what that means :D |
| 17:09.13 | zakkm | nice though |
| 17:10.33 | lcuk | it means using multitouch to allow switching between different list views dynamically :P |
| 17:10.45 | zakkm | we dont have multitouch? |
| 17:11.05 | lcuk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJWvvn_cePM ? |
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| 17:11.36 | zakkm | yeah i used to mess with that, it didnt actually work well ;p |
| 17:11.45 | lcuk | thats why its not a normal thing |
| 17:11.47 | zakkm | it was two touch |
| 17:11.49 | zakkm | not more |
| 17:11.53 | lcuk | but it works nicely for a CTRL key in the corner |
| 17:12.00 | lcuk | where the user is expected to keep it still ;) |
| 17:15.06 | coldboot|home | Why is the coreutils package missing md5sum? |
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| 17:21.09 | woglinde | coldboot dont know, but I know the pitfalls |
| 17:21.14 | woglinde | with sb2 |
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| 18:13.07 | lcuk | rolleyes at children |
| 18:13.27 | lcuk | jake just dropped a big heavy diecast metal ambulance on his foot |
| 18:13.50 | zakkm | eek |
| 18:13.57 | zakkm | how old is jake? |
| 18:16.24 | xci | injured by an ambulance |
| 18:16.26 | xci | :/ |
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| 18:21.06 | LinuxCode | lol gotta laugh...kids |
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| 18:23.43 | lcuk | zakkm, 7 |
| 18:24.00 | lcuk | and yeah xci it didnt seem to make him cry any less when i told him there was an ambulance on scene |
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| 18:36.30 | xci | lcuk: :) |
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| 19:59.06 | Macer | blah |
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| 20:12.50 | wazd | jeez, Rambo IV is one of the coolest movies I've ever seen :) |
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| 20:25.59 | lcuk | wazd, doesn't that simply mean you haven't seen very many movies |
| 20:26.38 | wazd | lcuk: nope, that means that Silver knows how to make good'ol bad-ass action movie :) |
| 20:27.21 | lcuk | but surely there has to be something better than r4 |
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| 20:34.21 | Proteous | Predator FTW |
| 20:34.51 | Macer | heh |
| 20:34.57 | Macer | have to love named when it works correctly |
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| 20:39.11 | Macer | anybody here good with mysql? |
| 20:39.13 | Macer | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.20 | Macer | the "identified by 'wp'; |
| 20:39.26 | Macer | isn't the 'wp' the password? |
| 20:40.15 | woglinde | ieehks |
| 20:40.16 | lbt | afaik yes |
| 20:40.45 | woglinde | I am at rails with typo no mysql and no php |
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| 20:41.13 | lbt | anyone any good with bootmenu failures? |
| 20:41.33 | lbt | jakemaheu has installed it and a reboot goes to nokia screen and shutdown |
| 20:41.35 | lbt | hmm |
| 20:41.41 | lbt | hows the battery jakemaheu |
| 20:41.52 | jakemaheu | i think around 70% |
| 20:41.59 | jakemaheu | i can try plugging in the charger |
| 20:42.04 | lbt | yes |
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| 20:42.44 | jakemaheu | plugged in the carger |
| 20:42.47 | jakemaheu | nokia logo is on |
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| 20:43.07 | jakemaheu | give it a sec |
| 20:43.43 | jakemaheu | it's just sitting on the blue nokia logo |
| 20:43.53 | jakemaheu | wait, it just restarted |
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| 20:44.17 | jakemaheu | the screen flickered and it's still on the nokia screen |
| 20:44.53 | jakemaheu | it did it again |
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| 20:44.58 | jakemaheu | i doubt it's charging |
| 20:45.17 | lbt | hold down the various home, back, menu keys as it boots |
| 20:45.22 | lbt | or restarts |
| 20:45.31 | jakemaheu | it's trying to do the boot sequence where it goes to the "battery charging" screen |
| 20:45.43 | jakemaheu | but can't load initfs it appears |
| 20:46.09 | lbt | qwerty12_N810: you about? |
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| 20:51.35 | lbt | hmm you can use the linux flasher to only reflash initfs |
| 20:53.42 | jakemaheu | i know |
| 20:53.50 | jakemaheu | i have a copy of the diablo initfs too |
| 20:54.05 | jakemaheu | i'll try reflashing that for now and retry the install |
| 20:54.07 | jakemaheu | brb |
| 20:54.25 | lbt | it's been months since I did this and it was seamless :( |
| 20:56.00 | jakemaheu | hasn't even touched linux for months |
| 20:56.19 | jakemaheu | feels stupid |
| 20:56.26 | woglinde | *g* |
| 20:56.30 | jakemaheu | looks up flasher documentation |
| 21:01.27 | jakemaheu | mwahahaha |
| 21:01.48 | jakemaheu | i have ressurected my tablet form the dead |
| 21:01.55 | lbt | how? |
| 21:02.06 | jakemaheu | ./flasher -f -n initfs.jffs2 -R |
| 21:02.07 | Proteous | dark, dark magic |
| 21:02.08 | jakemaheu | :D |
| 21:02.14 | jakemaheu | linux, baby |
| 21:02.24 | jakemaheu | everything is back to normal |
| 21:02.28 | lbt | ok - so somehow it screwed up your initfs |
| 21:02.32 | jakemaheu | time to try again |
| 21:02.33 | lbt | try again then... |
| 21:02.33 | jakemaheu | lol |
| 21:02.41 | jakemaheu | oh dear |
| 21:02.46 | jakemaheu | 14.1% battery |
| 21:02.48 | lbt | already? |
| 21:02.53 | jakemaheu | should prolly plug it in before i start |
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| 21:03.12 | lbt | and it's been on charge? |
| 21:03.16 | jakemaheu | endless reboots tend to kill a battery if it doesn't charge |
| 21:03.27 | lbt | is it possible it shutdown during the flash? |
| 21:03.34 | jakemaheu | alright |
| 21:03.39 | jakemaheu | i doubt it |
| 21:03.41 | woglinde | lbt you better wont do it |
| 21:03.46 | jakemaheu | i'll do it and tell you what happens |
| 21:04.04 | lbt | woglinde: ? |
| 21:04.06 | jakemaheu | i go into utils -> instal bootmenu |
| 21:04.37 | jakemaheu | 2gb sd card is in internal slot |
| 21:04.46 | lbt | watches ncurses build... again! |
| 21:04.47 | jakemaheu | close all apps: check |
| 21:04.54 | jakemaheu | disconnect from wifi: check |
| 21:05.00 | lcuk | lbt, surely it would be more fun watching nurses |
| 21:05.05 | jakemaheu | 5mb free space: check |
| 21:05.13 | lcuk | (which is what i thought you said lol) |
| 21:05.19 | lbt | in a tiny diecast ambulance... |
| 21:05.27 | jakemaheu | know how to reflash device: lol yeah |
| 21:05.31 | lcuk | :D hah |
| 21:05.42 | jakemaheu | aree you sure to continue: y |
| 21:05.42 | lcuk | it wasnt no matchbox car |
| 21:05.48 | lcuk | this was a big heffa |
| 21:05.55 | jakemaheu | create backup of current initfs: y |
| 21:05.57 | lcuk | serious ingot of solid cast iron |
| 21:06.16 | jakemaheu | ***creating backup + lots of text*** |
| 21:06.21 | lbt | jakemaheu: still listening |
| 21:06.35 | jakemaheu | it's backing it up still |
| 21:06.39 | lcuk | jakemaheu, i cannot believe you have navigated the pathway |
| 21:06.51 | jakemaheu | ? |
| 21:06.57 | lcuk | thats some serious linuxfoo you are showing |
| 21:07.02 | jakemaheu | why thank you |
| 21:07.19 | jakemaheu | i can use a console easily enough, and i know some BASH scripting |
| 21:07.41 | jakemaheu | but for anything involving REAL progamming, i'd be screwed |
| 21:07.49 | jakemaheu | except for simple python >.< |
| 21:07.56 | lcuk | i use linux console like i play text adventures |
| 21:08.00 | Macer | hm |
| 21:08.02 | jakemaheu | Never? |
| 21:08.09 | lcuk | i give up after about 5 commands and start seeing what swear words it knows |
| 21:08.23 | jakemaheu | i lol'd hard |
| 21:08.24 | Macer | any of the mer guys here mind if i host some of your stuff? |
| 21:08.27 | Macer | on tech.rancorous.net ? |
| 21:08.32 | jakemaheu | "press enter to continue" |
| 21:08.34 | Macer | still working on it :) |
| 21:08.37 | jakemaheu | *presses enter* |
| 21:08.39 | lbt | Macer: ? |
| 21:08.50 | jakemaheu | *** copying current initfs*** |
| 21:08.51 | Macer | lbt: i won't get hit with an lgpl suit? |
| 21:08.54 | Proteous | Andrea, |
| 21:08.54 | Proteous | Sure, you can download an Outlook configuration file from rackspace that will configure outlook to connect to your mywinesdirect.com email account. If you don't have Outlook on your laptop you can download it from: https://owa.rackspace.com/Outlook2k3.zip |
| 21:08.57 | Macer | if i put some mer stuff on there? |
| 21:08.58 | Proteous | I'm not sure if that link will work for you. Let me know if it doesn't. |
| 21:09.00 | Proteous | You can download the Outlook config file by clicking on "Manage My Account" on owa.rackspace.com when you are logging in. If you mouse over your email account name at the top of the page it will bring down a menu. Go to settings and select Outlook. That page has instructions one how to run the config file from different versions of Outlook. |
| 21:09.06 | Proteous | ah |
| 21:09.07 | Proteous | the perls of right click paste |
| 21:09.08 | lbt | mmmm |
| 21:09.12 | jakemaheu | lol |
| 21:09.14 | Macer | i'm still finishing the wordpress install |
| 21:09.14 | Proteous | :) |
| 21:09.18 | lbt | sure |
| 21:09.26 | lbt | what are you thinking of? |
| 21:10.01 | Macer | oh nothing. just goign to put my favorite mobile apps on it |
| 21:10.05 | Macer | figured mer should be on there ;) |
| 21:10.09 | lcuk | Proteous, it would only be fail if you had private stuffs |
| 21:10.11 | Macer | along with android hackoring tips |
| 21:10.22 | Macer | and other misc arm based product updates |
| 21:10.25 | lcuk | mind you, knowing how to use outlook is a tad odd ;) |
| 21:10.27 | jakemaheu | "remove unneeded extra (and factory testing) stuff?" y |
| 21:10.28 | Macer | like my vaporware touch book that i'm still waiting on |
| 21:10.31 | Proteous | everyone needs instructions on how to install and configure Outlook with rackspace hosted email!! |
| 21:10.31 | lbt | oh, gotcha |
| 21:10.34 | Macer | but i am still working on the site now |
| 21:10.38 | Proteous | IT'S CRITICAL INFO!! |
| 21:10.42 | Macer | it should be done tomorrow and ready for me to put stuff on it |
| 21:10.47 | Macer | have to test it out wtih actual files heh |
| 21:10.47 | lcuk | yeah |
| 21:10.54 | lbt | not binaries though? |
| 21:10.58 | jakemaheu | install telnet server for network recovery: y |
| 21:10.59 | lcuk | i know, we get asked most days how to configure email |
| 21:10.59 | Macer | lbt: not sure yet |
| 21:11.07 | Macer | i am going ot try that in a few minutes |
| 21:11.18 | lbt | we don't want to encourage a raft of repos - that really hurt maemo |
| 21:11.20 | jakemaheu | install dropbear ssh server for advanced network recovery: y |
| 21:11.31 | lbt | I mean we can't stop you :) |
| 21:11.33 | jakemaheu | ok, dropbear added |
| 21:11.54 | jakemaheu | no dropbear in rootfs, server keys will be generated on each boot |
| 21:11.59 | lbt | but links ensure things stay up-to-date |
| 21:12.07 | jakemaheu | searching for optional bootmenu.conf in /etc |
| 21:12.19 | Macer | lbt: oh no |
| 21:12.25 | Macer | i'm not trying to make a repo |
| 21:12.35 | Macer | at the most i'd probably just keep the bins on there to be flashed |
| 21:12.37 | Macer | or something like that |
| 21:12.43 | Macer | maybe the latest ver of mer |
| 21:12.54 | Macer | ver of mer :) |
| 21:12.57 | Macer | (tm_ |
| 21:13.02 | Macer | (tm) |
| 21:13.06 | *** join/#maemo |thunder (n=e@c-68-61-172-71.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 21:13.07 | jakemaheu | "/etc/bootmenu.conf found, do you want to add it to initfs?" y |
| 21:13.17 | lbt | It wouldn't hurt to mirror the images |
| 21:13.47 | lbt | stskeeps' machine has been known to be flakey... though we have a new one from goshawk now |
| 21:14.07 | jakemaheu | wait, should i edit bootmenu.conf? |
| 21:15.18 | jakemaheu | before adding it to initfs? |
| 21:16.23 | jakemaheu | lbt: does it need to be editied? |
| 21:16.41 | lbt | I'd ssh in |
| 21:16.48 | jakemaheu | right now? |
| 21:16.49 | lbt | oh, wait |
| 21:16.54 | lbt | memory says |
| 21:17.04 | lbt | that there's no need for an entry for flash |
| 21:17.09 | lbt | so no worries |
| 21:17.17 | jakemaheu | alright, the ni'll type "y" |
| 21:17.22 | lbt | yep |
| 21:17.24 | jakemaheu | *then i'll |
| 21:17.43 | jakemaheu | ok, bootmenu.conf added |
| 21:17.47 | lbt | what country are you in BTW... just checking... |
| 21:18.02 | jakemaheu | updating /etc/bootmenu.d/*.item: no such file or directory |
| 21:18.07 | jakemaheu | the US |
| 21:18.24 | lbt | cool, that's far enough away... carry on. |
| 21:18.28 | Macer | lol |
| 21:18.48 | jakemaheu | cp: cannot stat '/etc/bootmenu.d/*.item': no such file or directory |
| 21:18.51 | Macer | lbt: well.. once i'm done working on it i'll test it out and see what happens |
| 21:19.06 | Macer | hopeuflly i can find a bin plugin |
| 21:19.10 | Macer | to put the bins directly in the posts |
| 21:19.12 | Macer | but who knows |
| 21:19.14 | lbt | jakemaheu: ok - there's nothing there yet. it shoudn't matter |
| 21:19.19 | jakemaheu | creating /var/tmp/initfs.bootmenu.jffs2 |
| 21:19.32 | Macer | otherwise i can just link them.. but that'll take longer ;) |
| 21:19.34 | *** join/#maemo dieb__ (n=dieb@189.71.68.49) |
| 21:19.37 | jakemaheu | mkfs.jffs2: write: no space left on device |
| 21:19.40 | Macer | i have a few TB of space to do so though ;) |
| 21:19.43 | jakemaheu | (crap crap crap) |
| 21:20.01 | jakemaheu | part 2: ready for flashing this image? |
| 21:20.04 | lbt | no |
| 21:20.08 | jakemaheu | i don't think so |
| 21:20.16 | lbt | I think your rootfs is full |
| 21:20.29 | jakemaheu | the device's memory is full? |
| 21:20.31 | jakemaheu | lemme check |
| 21:20.50 | jakemaheu | disk space 3.5mb/249.5mb |
| 21:20.54 | jakemaheu | disk space 3.5mb/249.5mb |
| 21:20.57 | jakemaheu | crap |
| 21:21.03 | jakemaheu | it was like 10mb before |
| 21:21.27 | jakemaheu | i gotta find some space |
| 21:21.30 | lbt | it's a compressing FS so they are estimates |
| 21:21.59 | jakemaheu | ah |
| 21:22.05 | lbt | builds nCurses again... |
| 21:22.58 | jakemaheu | hmm... |
| 21:23.06 | jakemaheu | where has all my space gone? |
| 21:23.11 | lbt | du -sh * |
| 21:23.24 | lbt | useful in this situation |
| 21:23.33 | lbt | start in home |
| 21:23.40 | lbt | don't forget .files |
| 21:23.43 | jakemaheu | k |
| 21:23.46 | jakemaheu | just a sec |
| 21:24.12 | lbt | actually in $HOME you want du -sh .??* * |
| 21:24.40 | jakemaheu | lemme delete the 150spam emails |
| 21:25.44 | jakemaheu | there we go, 150 spam emails deleted |
| 21:25.48 | jakemaheu | now into the terminal |
| 21:27.57 | jakemaheu | there's 4.6mb in .liqbase |
| 21:28.18 | jakemaheu | lcuk: any chance of saving images to the normal images folder? |
| 21:28.30 | jakemaheu | HOLY CRAP |
| 21:28.39 | jakemaheu | 58.9M modest |
| 21:28.45 | lcuk | thats not modest |
| 21:28.50 | jakemaheu | THAT EXPLAINS A LOT |
| 21:29.08 | lcuk | nahh doesnt |
| 21:29.36 | lcuk | as for images in normal folder, that would involve a patch and changes to classic that i havent done in a while and qwerty found a decent solution - use a symlink |
| 21:30.06 | jakemaheu | i used symlinks when i was using kismet |
| 21:30.19 | jakemaheu | it generated TONS of log files |
| 21:30.36 | lcuk | 4.6mb in liqbase tho, is that all images, or do you sketch lots too |
| 21:31.00 | jakemaheu | i sketch quite a bit |
| 21:31.10 | wnd | btw how does mediacrawler get along with symlinks nowadays? |
| 21:31.11 | jakemaheu | there should be some pics too |
| 21:31.24 | lcuk | cool |
| 21:32.09 | lcuk | categorization and grouping is looking better than ever |
| 21:32.14 | jakemaheu | i found where quite a bit of stuff is |
| 21:32.15 | lcuk | and the graffiti wall now contains images |
| 21:32.29 | lcuk | as well as other stuff |
| 21:33.10 | jakemaheu | in "/home/user/.modest/cache/mail/pop/jak+jakemaheu.com_mail.jakemaheu.com_110_cache" |
| 21:33.12 | lcuk | has 107mb in his liqbase folder |
| 21:33.19 | jakemaheu | wow |
| 21:33.30 | jakemaheu | there's tons of folders with cache files in em |
| 21:33.35 | jakemaheu | can they be deleted? |
| 21:33.50 | lcuk | i never delete anything |
| 21:33.58 | jakemaheu | there are 3f folders |
| 21:34.09 | jakemaheu | that is to say: 00-39 then 3a-3f |
| 21:34.23 | lcuk | if your modest stuff *IS* just a cache cant you delete it easily |
| 21:34.32 | jakemaheu | oh my god |
| 21:34.45 | lcuk | lions? |
| 21:34.45 | jakemaheu | there's so much data herre |
| 21:34.47 | jakemaheu | *here |
| 21:34.55 | jakemaheu | i'm gonna delete the folders |
| 21:35.02 | jakemaheu | wish me lcuk |
| 21:35.05 | jakemaheu | lol |
| 21:35.15 | lcuk | fsck that, you are in control of the button |
| 21:35.20 | lcuk | gets some popcorn |
| 21:36.05 | jakemaheu | time to do some rm magic |
| 21:36.09 | lcuk | jakemaheu, my rule of thumb about deletions is: would you take them out of a building if it was on fire |
| 21:36.25 | lcuk | i like having my entire devkit on something i can carry :) |
| 21:37.27 | jakemaheu | i wouldn't take cache files out |
| 21:37.29 | lbt | I like having my entire devkit on a RAID |
| 21:37.36 | jakemaheu | i can redownload every email from my server |
| 21:38.00 | jakemaheu | alright then |
| 21:38.02 | jakemaheu | time for rm |
| 21:38.11 | lcuk | passes lbt some popcorn |
| 21:38.14 | jakemaheu | it took me like 3 minutes to get to the folder in xterm |
| 21:38.37 | lbt | munches and passes the tub along |
| 21:39.16 | jakemaheu | types rm -r *.* |
| 21:39.24 | jakemaheu | wow fail |
| 21:39.29 | lbt | dos |
| 21:39.38 | jakemaheu | types rm -r * |
| 21:39.42 | jakemaheu | now it worked |
| 21:39.44 | lbt | unix |
| 21:40.57 | jakemaheu | all those cache files are gone |
| 21:41.08 | |thunder | Hey all, anyone know of a breakout cable for the audio port of a n8x0 ? |
| 21:41.14 | jakemaheu | time to rerun the setup |
| 21:42.01 | jakemaheu | free space: 51.5M |
| 21:42.05 | jakemaheu | yay |
| 21:42.21 | |thunder | I want to plug a seperate mic and speakers from the n800, anyone know if this is doable ? |
| 21:42.42 | jakemaheu | erm, maybe |
| 21:43.04 | jakemaheu | if you have one of the 3-ridge plugs |
| 21:43.05 | |thunder | like, a 4 pin male phono to a 3 pin for headphone and a 2 pin for mic ? |
| 21:43.17 | Macer | lbt: where can i download mer bins? |
| 21:43.21 | Macer | like the install stuff? |
| 21:43.46 | Macer | i need to test and see if i can just set up a local link within wordpress to allow people to download it :) |
| 21:43.51 | |thunder | jakemaheu; Its the regular one on the n800, with integrated mic. I'd like to break it out to 2 female phono connectors. |
| 21:44.03 | jakemaheu | erm http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Documentation/Installation#N8x0_Install |
| 21:44.08 | |thunder | Macer, what you trying to do ? |
| 21:44.11 | jakemaheu | for Macer |
| 21:45.15 | lbt | Macer: I think linking to the wiki pages makes more sense to start |
| 21:45.15 | |thunder | Macer, trying to make a file on your web server publicly available ? |
| 21:45.15 | Macer | jakemaheu: thank you |
| 21:45.15 | jakemaheu | np |
| 21:45.16 | Macer | |thunder: sure |
| 21:45.16 | Macer | trying it now |
| 21:45.16 | Macer | trying to make it accessable from wordpress |
| 21:45.16 | |thunder | Macer, just change the permission to allow public read access |
| 21:45.40 | |thunder | chmod 771 ./file |
| 21:45.43 | jakemaheu | unless wordpress still has that annoying bug where you can't use any files without modifying the .htaaccess file |
| 21:46.08 | Macer | jakemaheu: heh... yeah |
| 21:46.13 | |thunder | no, change permission and just make a direct link. (if its in a server folder) |
| 21:46.24 | Macer | |thunder: that is what i'm going to do |
| 21:46.33 | |thunder | yep[ |
| 21:46.35 | Macer | i'm just going to add a dir in the vhost dir |
| 21:46.41 | Macer | and add files to it and direct link them |
| 21:46.48 | |thunder | yep |
| 21:46.49 | jakemaheu | ah |
| 21:46.59 | Macer | hopefully that just works ;) |
| 21:47.22 | |thunder | they have to be at least chmod 111 though |
| 21:47.26 | |thunder | to allow reading |
| 21:48.28 | |thunder | I really want to breakout this audio port. I want to be able to call people via SIP from teamspeak, lol |
| 21:48.28 | Macer | wtf? :) |
| 21:48.30 | Macer | heh |
| 21:48.46 | Macer | http://tech.rancorous.net/mer/merinstaller.install |
| 21:48.57 | Macer | it's actually reading the file instead of downloading it :) |
| 21:49.05 | Macer | i guess because the file is just ascii? |
| 21:49.14 | |thunder | wget "url" |
| 21:49.21 | |thunder | on linux |
| 21:49.21 | Macer | i know that will work |
| 21:49.34 | Macer | but well.. blah. never mind |
| 21:49.38 | |thunder | its because of the extension |
| 21:49.39 | Macer | someone should know how to right click on it ;) |
| 21:49.40 | jakemaheu | you need to make the file type where it's like text/install |
| 21:49.52 | Macer | or i can just tarball it or something? |
| 21:50.00 | Macer | heh.. but that would probably not be a good idea |
| 21:51.09 | Macer | hm |
| 21:51.14 | Macer | the link isn't getting treated like a linke |
| 21:51.18 | Macer | link |
| 21:51.36 | Macer | http://tech.rancorous.net/?page_id=5 |
| 21:51.49 | Macer | maybe there is a plugin to do this stuff |
| 21:52.09 | jakemaheu | oh, MIME types |
| 21:52.13 | jakemaheu | doh |
| 21:52.50 | jakemaheu | sweet, it looks like it flashed correctly this time |
| 21:53.09 | jakemaheu | YAYAYAYAYAY |
| 21:53.12 | jakemaheu | IT WORKED |
| 21:53.12 | |thunder | i love evince for redaing books |
| 21:53.16 | jakemaheu | I LOVE LINUX |
| 21:53.21 | |thunder | me too |
| 21:53.24 | Macer | oh |
| 21:53.27 | jakemaheu | SWEEEET |
| 21:53.32 | Macer | guess i missed something there :) |
| 21:53.32 | Macer | heh |
| 21:53.34 | jakemaheu | except for ati |
| 21:53.41 | |thunder | eric@amd64:~$ uptime |
| 21:53.41 | |thunder | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.54 | jakemaheu | because they suck because they dropped my card into legacy |
| 21:53.54 | |thunder | i <3 linux |
| 21:54.13 | jakemaheu | and 9.04 doesn't support the restricted driver for my card |
| 21:54.59 | jakemaheu | Macer: Do you have a cPanel? |
| 21:55.33 | jakemaheu | like tech.rancorous.net:2082 |
| 21:57.32 | rm_you | did someone say it was time for rm? :P |
| 21:57.38 | rm_you | ^_^ |
| 22:00.49 | jakemaheu | |thunder: i can beat yours |
| 22:01.07 | jakemaheu | root@paul-laptop: uptime |
| 22:01.35 | jakemaheu | 18:06:09 up 162 days, 4:35, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 |
| 22:01.41 | jakemaheu | what now? |
| 22:01.58 | jakemaheu | that system gets used rarely, in unusual situations (like today) |
| 22:05.38 | jakemaheu | i think that there should be a bug filed |
| 22:06.02 | jakemaheu | if you don't have enough space, it'll kill your tablet until you reflash |
| 22:06.48 | |thunder | nice uptime jake |
| 22:06.53 | |thunder | 1/3 of a year |
| 22:06.59 | jakemaheu | thank you |
| 22:07.53 | rm_you | I hate windoze, but my windoze uptime is 44 days right now <_< |
| 22:08.00 | rm_you | and that's only cause of a power outage. lol |
| 22:08.12 | rm_you | my gaming desktop ^^^ |
| 22:08.28 | jakemaheu | i just got a vista box (sff) hooked up to my tv (42" plasma) |
| 22:08.35 | jakemaheu | it's actually pretty nice |
| 22:08.37 | |thunder | aero vs compiz videos are so funny |
| 22:08.46 | jakemaheu | i don't get what people have against vista |
| 22:08.55 | rm_you | linux server up 69 days >_> |
| 22:08.58 | jakemaheu | i love compiz fusionj |
| 22:09.00 | rm_you | hard drive upgrade |
| 22:09.02 | jakemaheu | *fusion |
| 22:09.14 | |thunder | I just got a touch panel to tape to the front of my monitor so my 2 year old can play dora and calliou games.... |
| 22:09.20 | jakemaheu | awww |
| 22:09.24 | |thunder | 81 $ for 17" |
| 22:09.27 | Macer | jakemaheu: heh |
| 22:09.27 | rm_you | lol nice |
| 22:09.32 | lbt | linux server up 23 years...... settimeofday() |
| 22:09.40 | Macer | jakemaheu: why would i need cpanel? :) |
| 22:09.40 | |thunder | hsa external and usb header pins |
| 22:09.43 | Macer | http://tech.rancorous.net/mer/ |
| 22:09.46 | jakemaheu | my xp box goes down pretty often |
| 22:09.48 | Macer | there.. that is starting to work out |
| 22:09.51 | Macer | direct linking works fine |
| 22:09.53 | jakemaheu | Macer: to set MIME types |
| 22:10.18 | jakemaheu | you could set text/install or whatever maemo.org uses |
| 22:10.27 | Macer | well.. that's unnecessary. if someone on an n8x0 uses the link it will just default to the install |
| 22:10.30 | Macer | heh |
| 22:10.46 | jakemaheu | but my xp box goes down prety often because it's getting old and starting to sie |
| 22:10.48 | Macer | jakemaheu: or they can just right click on it and download it ;) |
| 22:10.48 | jakemaheu | *die |
| 22:10.53 | jakemaheu | yeah |
| 22:11.17 | jakemaheu | it's getting harder to bring it back up each time |
| 22:11.18 | Macer | and from what lbt says.. another repository is just not a cool thing for mer to have |
| 22:11.21 | Macer | heh |
| 22:11.46 | Macer | lbt: i'm running this on opensolaris ;) |
| 22:11.47 | Macer | ftw! |
| 22:11.49 | jakemaheu | if it has a bad crash, it might give a system boot disk failure error |
| 22:11.59 | jakemaheu | it freaks me out |
| 22:12.09 | Macer | lbt: ok. i have the building blocks all there ;) |
| 22:12.11 | jakemaheu | i can't afford new parts either |
| 22:12.11 | lbt | using their new fs? |
| 22:12.16 | jakemaheu | (i'm 15) |
| 22:12.21 | Macer | lbt: new fs? |
| 22:12.27 | lbt | zfs |
| 22:12.29 | Macer | zfs is a few years old ;) |
| 22:12.31 | Macer | but yes |
| 22:12.42 | Macer | zfs on top of an 8TB raid 5 |
| 22:13.02 | lbt | that's bigger than mine |
| 22:13.08 | jakemaheu | should i do simple or advanced setup for mer? |
| 22:13.12 | Macer | with zfs running the 2 OS drives off the onboard sata |
| 22:13.18 | Macer | mirrored |
| 22:13.25 | Macer | opensolaris is A++++ as a server ;) |
| 22:13.29 | Macer | it sucks as a desktop tho |
| 22:13.32 | Macer | heh |
| 22:13.33 | jakemaheu | lol |
| 22:13.49 | Macer | either that or gnome just kind of disgusts me |
| 22:14.04 | Macer | now that i think about it i haven't ran into a good enviroment yet for xorg that i .. no kidding.. liked |
| 22:14.05 | jakemaheu | for mer, are apps installed on the fat partition or the ext3 partition? |
| 22:14.26 | Macer | ext3 |
| 22:14.28 | rm_you | Macer: beats my raid too :P |
| 22:14.29 | Macer | :-P |
| 22:14.41 | rm_you | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 22:14.42 | rm_you | /dev/md0 4.0T 2.2T 1.8T 56% /media/md0 |
| 22:14.42 | jakemaheu | Macer: thanks |
| 22:14.42 | Macer | rm_you: heh.. well.. i just updated my business line |
| 22:14.46 | Macer | to 22down 5 up |
| 22:15.02 | rm_you | yeah that's what i have too <_< |
| 22:15.05 | jakemaheu | my hdd setup is painful |
| 22:15.05 | Macer | rm_you: i lose some of it because of reserve/raid5 |
| 22:15.23 | Macer | archive 6.2T 2.5T 3.8T 40% |
| 22:15.31 | rm_you | yeah i'm down like 60G from ext3 reserve |
| 22:15.42 | rm_you | but it rounds it out with -H |
| 22:15.56 | Macer | i might add a sas or something to add on to the existing raid |
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| 22:16.02 | Macer | but that's later ;) |
| 22:16.15 | Macer | i can always just get an areca sas card and run it out and pair up the 2 in the system |
| 22:16.20 | rm_you | is that 5x2T drives? |
| 22:16.34 | Macer | 8x1TB |
| 22:16.40 | rm_you | 9x1TB? |
| 22:16.40 | jakemaheu | i've got an 80GB for my main (almost full), a 200GB for storage (full), and a 60GB for more storage(1/2 full) |
| 22:16.41 | rm_you | oh |
| 22:16.42 | Macer | + 2x80G for OS |
| 22:16.45 | rm_you | 7TB raid |
| 22:16.51 | Macer | 8TB raid5 ;) |
| 22:16.56 | Macer | 1 drive = parity |
| 22:16.59 | rm_you | right |
| 22:17.02 | rm_you | when I say 4Tb RAID |
| 22:17.07 | rm_you | i mean i have 5x1Tb drives |
| 22:17.16 | Macer | oh |
| 22:17.25 | Macer | ok :) i'll do the same from now on |
| 22:17.34 | Macer | haha |
| 22:17.41 | Macer | but then that makes my e-penis shrink |
| 22:17.44 | jakemaheu | my compy is IDE, not SATA, so not only is it hard to find big drives, they're really expensive |
| 22:17.46 | rm_you | lol |
| 22:17.49 | rm_you | use -H instead of -h |
| 22:17.50 | rm_you | it helps :P |
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| 22:18.11 | Macer | jakemaheu: tell tehm to get some new hardware.. the cheap bastards :) |
| 22:18.18 | Macer | i mean at the very least you can always get a drobo |
| 22:18.19 | Macer | heh |
| 22:18.19 | jakemaheu | D: |
| 22:18.20 | ShadowJK | jakemaheu, maybe you can find a IDE-SATA converter |
| 22:18.28 | Macer | i wonder if they have an esata drobo |
| 22:18.30 | jakemaheu | my entire compy is old |
| 22:18.36 | Macer | they have to :) |
| 22:18.37 | jakemaheu | i'm just strapping onto it |
| 22:18.46 | jakemaheu | here's the specs |
| 22:18.54 | ShadowJK | or, you know, SATA PCI controllers cost about ten bucks... |
| 22:18.55 | Macer | ah well.. i have that mer page going |
| 22:18.59 | Macer | i think that's all i'll do for the day |
| 22:19.03 | Macer | ShadowJK: hahaha |
| 22:19.08 | Macer | i was about to say the same thing :) |
| 22:19.12 | Macer | maybe he lives in eastern europe |
| 22:19.25 | Macer | or hk :) |
| 22:19.46 | Macer | i have to find a better theme for thsi tech wordpress page |
| 22:19.52 | Macer | and more plugins i suppose |
| 22:20.54 | jakemaheu | amd athlon xp+ 2600, 1gb ddr ram, 80GB hd, 200GB hd, 60GB hd (all IDE), ati radeon x1300 pro |
| 22:21.26 | jakemaheu | Stskeeps: If the Mer download server goes down, I'm gonna be mad. |
| 22:22.05 | lcuk | thats a decent spec machine |
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| 22:23.04 | rm_you | xp+ is like 3 generations ago <_< |
| 22:23.07 | jakemaheu | lcuk: lolwut? |
| 22:23.12 | jakemaheu | yeah |
| 22:23.14 | rm_you | i mean, processesors havent gotten much better |
| 22:23.16 | jakemaheu | it's only 32bit |
| 22:23.20 | lcuk | and? |
| 22:23.20 | rm_you | but the other hardware is dated |
| 22:23.22 | jakemaheu | yeah they have |
| 22:23.23 | lcuk | when do you need 64bits? |
| 22:23.27 | rm_you | IE, lack of SATA |
| 22:23.37 | rm_you | or PCI-express |
| 22:23.47 | lcuk | if the drives are humming along nicely and it does whats expected of it - its working |
| 22:23.48 | jakemaheu | they have quad-core 64bit multithreaded cpus |
| 22:24.01 | lcuk | they have had multicore super cpus for decades |
| 22:24.17 | jakemaheu | lcuk: except that i can't add anymore storage now and i need it |
| 22:24.23 | jakemaheu | i torrent a LOT |
| 22:24.31 | lcuk | and i havent seen any real advancements in compiler stuffs to make use of extra SLOWER cores |
| 22:24.33 | rm_you | yeah the XP+ series was a great series of procs |
| 22:24.40 | jakemaheu | bullshit |
| 22:24.44 | rm_you | but it tells a lot about the REST of the system |
| 22:24.45 | woglinde | lcuk some databases are better with 64bit |
| 22:24.52 | jakemaheu | i do a lot of gaming |
| 22:24.55 | jakemaheu | and mapmaking |
| 22:25.03 | lcuk | woglinde, and those have been using 64bit now since ~2000 ish (or before) |
| 22:25.10 | jakemaheu | compiling maps is like amazingly faster on a new system |
| 22:25.31 | rm_you | if it uses multi-core, then yeah |
| 22:25.52 | lcuk | what sort of maps? |
| 22:25.58 | jakemaheu | the half-life 2: episode 2 engine uses multicore rendering |
| 22:25.59 | lcuk | knows it will be WADS |
| 22:26.06 | jakemaheu | lcuk: hl2:dm |
| 22:26.14 | jakemaheu | bsp actually |
| 22:26.18 | lcuk | loves hl2 |
| 22:26.20 | lcuk | and portal |
| 22:26.24 | jakemaheu | <33333 me too! |
| 22:26.29 | jakemaheu | and tf2 |
| 22:26.32 | rm_you | everyone and their mother loves portal :P |
| 22:26.42 | jakemaheu | my gf doesn't |
| 22:26.45 | lcuk | no, my mum doesnt like it |
| 22:26.46 | rm_you | sadface |
| 22:26.48 | jakemaheu | D: |
| 22:26.49 | lcuk | she wants something easier |
| 22:26.49 | Macer | :) |
| 22:26.49 | rm_you | get a new GF |
| 22:26.53 | Macer | "Are you sure to continue?" - yes |
| 22:26.54 | rm_you | lcuk: get a new mother :P |
| 22:26.57 | jakemaheu | she wants to try TF2 tho |
| 22:26.58 | Macer | hehe |
| 22:27.01 | lcuk | heh |
| 22:27.06 | Macer | ze computer shall restart |
| 22:27.27 | Macer | who made the mer dialogues? |
| 22:27.32 | jakemaheu | ? |
| 22:27.41 | lcuk | jakemaheu, ok, you have a defined desire for faster machine, but its not exactly a slouch for most things |
| 22:27.43 | rm_you | lol depends on which one |
| 22:27.43 | Macer | "Are you sure to continue?" |
| 22:27.44 | Macer | ? :) |
| 22:28.01 | Macer | it had to be Stskeeps |
| 22:28.03 | lcuk | i only just upgraded my system recently |
| 22:28.06 | jakemaheu | lcuk: I guess it does what I need, but not well. |
| 22:28.11 | Macer | he sounds like he would say something like that |
| 22:28.12 | Macer | haha |
| 22:28.17 | rm_you | johnx made or influences some of them IIRC |
| 22:28.23 | Macer | the euroenglish |
| 22:28.26 | jakemaheu | the guy who runs the server i play on just upgraded |
| 22:28.33 | lcuk | Macer, he just did an open chan session |
| 22:28.33 | jakemaheu | it's crazy |
| 22:28.45 | lcuk | and randomly assigned lines from chat into the translations |
| 22:29.00 | lcuk | just wait until you get to some of the late night messages |
| 22:30.17 | jakemaheu | lcuk: the hl2:dm server is Two Dual Xeon 2.4 GHz processors with 3 GB ram. This is a "real" server with RAID, etc. |
| 22:30.50 | woglinde | a real server has blades and san |
| 22:31.04 | jakemaheu | woglinde: GTFO |
| 22:31.21 | jakemaheu | correction: it's a real gaming server |
| 22:31.53 | lcuk | woglinde, a real searver has napkins and FOOD |
| 22:31.57 | lcuk | server |
| 22:32.00 | woglinde | bacon |
| 22:32.04 | lcuk | mmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 22:32.05 | jakemaheu | BACON |
| 22:32.10 | jakemaheu | I LOVE BACON |
| 22:32.15 | woglinde | lcuk too |
| 22:32.16 | jakemaheu | BACON WEAVES ARE AWESOME TOO |
| 22:32.29 | jakemaheu | i am a master of the bacon weave |
| 22:32.48 | lcuk | why is my screen turning red |
| 22:32.49 | lcuk | who is mentioning bacon! |
| 22:32.49 | jakemaheu | lol |
| 22:32.51 | jakemaheu | everyone |
| 22:32.59 | lcuk | should never have added it as a triggerword |
| 22:33.17 | jakemaheu | heh |
| 22:33.18 | jakemaheu | bacon |
| 22:33.44 | jakemaheu | i should make a bot that checks for you being online and that says bacon occasionally |
| 22:33.56 | jakemaheu | just to bug you |
| 22:33.58 | jakemaheu | :D |
| 22:33.58 | lcuk | i have a bot that responds to bacon |
| 22:34.14 | Macer | hahah |
| 22:34.20 | lcuk | so even when im not online it will still respond |
| 22:34.48 | Macer | wtf is a bacon weave? |
| 22:34.52 | jakemaheu | hang on |
| 22:35.04 | Macer | is that like some canadian thing? |
| 22:35.24 | Macer | like calling a house a howoose? |
| 22:36.20 | lcuk | a bacon weave is the perfect layer in a blt |
| 22:36.31 | jakemaheu | http://www.instructables.com/id/Bacon-Placemats/ |
| 22:36.35 | woglinde | whats blt? |
| 22:36.42 | jakemaheu | nuff said since i can't find the right site |
| 22:37.20 | jakemaheu | this: http://www.bbqaddicts.com/blog/recipes/bacon-explosion/ is even cooler |
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| 22:37.42 | jakemaheu | n;t: a sandwhich wiht bacon, lettuce, and tomato |
| 22:37.50 | lcuk | and mayo |
| 22:37.52 | Macer | wow that is disgusting |
| 22:37.53 | Macer | haha |
| 22:37.55 | jakemaheu | eew |
| 22:37.57 | jakemaheu | which one? |
| 22:38.06 | Macer | the bacon-placemats |
| 22:38.24 | woglinde | suckers now I am hungry again |
| 22:38.57 | lcuk | :D |
| 22:39.06 | lcuk | we aren't suckers |
| 22:39.17 | jakemaheu | Macer: blasphemy! |
| 22:39.20 | lcuk | i would actually like to make proper bacon one day |
| 22:39.39 | jakemaheu | if you bake the bacon in the oven it's pretty good |
| 22:39.53 | jakemaheu | it's evenly cooked and all straight |
| 22:40.08 | LinuxCode | lcuk, pigs make the bacon |
| 22:40.15 | LinuxCode | I dont see how you could make it any better |
| 22:40.17 | rm_you | lcuk: like, go buy a pig? |
| 22:40.32 | rm_you | lcuk: THAT kind of *make* proper bacon? :P |
| 22:40.43 | Macer | like |
| 22:40.59 | Macer | i don't have anything against pork.. but that thing makes me want to convert to islam |
| 22:41.00 | lcuk | yes, properly prepared and smoked bacon |
| 22:41.14 | lcuk | not just lifted from a shelf in plastic packaging :) |
| 22:41.23 | rm_you | wait, could you put baconaise on a BLT? :P |
| 22:41.23 | jakemaheu | ahmake friends with a butcher |
| 22:41.25 | rm_you | that would be SWEET |
| 22:41.37 | jakemaheu | ? baconaise? |
| 22:41.41 | lcuk | spending months curing it and anticipating the amazingness afterwards |
| 22:41.43 | Macer | or you can just go to the butcher and ask for fresh bacon? |
| 22:41.45 | Macer | hah |
| 22:42.06 | lcuk | fresh pig arse from a butchers is usually uncured |
| 22:42.08 | Macer | i mean.. butchers still just cut meat right? :) now that i think about it though. there really aren't many good butchers |
| 22:42.12 | lcuk | i want to go through the entire process |
| 22:42.19 | rm_you | from pig to platter :P |
| 22:42.22 | Macer | lcuk: like killing the pig? |
| 22:42.25 | lcuk | but yeah starting from a dead pig would be logical |
| 22:42.29 | Macer | and cuttign it up? |
| 22:42.34 | lcuk | yeah |
| 22:42.38 | Macer | that is the first sign of a murderer |
| 22:42.43 | Macer | :) |
| 22:42.45 | jakemaheu | extra-thick slices of bacon! |
| 22:42.50 | jakemaheu | bacon cubes |
| 22:42.53 | rm_you | or the first sign of someone who likes delicious bacon :P |
| 22:42.54 | lcuk | OMG< my local butcher is goin postal! |
| 22:43.01 | Macer | lcuk: yup |
| 22:43.05 | Macer | haha |
| 22:43.11 | lcuk | how come you dont hear about it much then |
| 22:43.11 | Macer | i mean like... killing and cuttign animals |
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| 22:43.23 | rm_you | when i look at anything considered a common food animal, i pretty much just see a walking version of the processed result |
| 22:43.26 | Macer | lcuk: because you don't read up about serial killers much |
| 22:43.28 | lcuk | "local morrisons butchered jailed for life for carving his missus into lovely steaks" |
| 22:43.29 | rm_you | cows are like hamburgers/steaks on legs |
| 22:43.37 | Macer | most serial killers murdered animals to start with |
| 22:43.48 | lcuk | rm_you, you sound like homer |
| 22:43.51 | Macer | then moved on to bigger and better things |
| 22:43.55 | rm_you | lol |
| 22:44.01 | rm_you | well it's true |
| 22:44.02 | Macer | anyways. i'm off to work on this site a littlemore then sleep |
| 22:44.13 | lcuk | Macer, i have heard most serial killers read up about what other serial killers did |
| 22:44.18 | rm_you | rofl |
| 22:44.31 | rm_you | I've heard that too :P |
| 22:44.35 | lcuk | and you telling me all this information is rather revealing, should we be dialing? |
| 22:47.14 | Macer | lcuk: touche |
| 22:47.27 | jakemaheu | starting mer |
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| 22:47.34 | jakemaheu | i like the spash |
| 22:48.07 | jakemaheu | er, splash |
| 22:48.10 | jakemaheu | >.< |
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| 22:52.19 | Macer | lol |
| 22:52.26 | Macer | see what happens when you run Mer! |
| 22:52.29 | Macer | :-P |
| 22:52.51 | lbt | night all |
| 22:53.16 | woglinde | nite lbt |
| 22:53.58 | lcuk | nite lbt |
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| 22:54.03 | lcuk | hi z4chh |
| 22:54.17 | z4chh | hi |
| 22:54.43 | lcuk | smiles at kickass multitouch |
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| 22:55.26 | lcuk | z4chh, i never asked you |
| 22:55.29 | lcuk | do you like bacon? |
| 22:56.51 | woglinde | lol |
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| 22:58.47 | lcuk | guess not :'( |
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| 23:01.55 | jakemaheu | hello again |
| 23:02.37 | jakemaheu | mer is actually pretty good |
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| 23:05.27 | jakemaheu | bacon |
| 23:05.46 | lcuk | takes a rasher |
| 23:05.55 | jakemaheu | there you are |
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