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| 02:10.22 | b-man16 | hello |
| 02:11.28 | b-man16 | is still waiting for his tablet to arrive in the mail :P |
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| 02:37.07 | b-man16 | ~seen xnt14 |
| 02:37.09 | infobot | xnt14 <n=xnt14@pool-98-116-130-240.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 22h 29m 11s ago, saying: 'home mainframe...lol'. |
| 02:37.25 | b-man16 | hmmm :( |
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| 02:49.02 | r2d2rogers | wonders if he should try .14 testing9 again |
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| 02:51.02 | r2d2rogers | it should be able to get to first boot wizard before it needs the swap file, even on a 770 |
| 02:51.23 | r2d2rogers | checks the card for log files |
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| 03:38.31 | tom-davidson | hello pavlov and stskeeps thanks for your help yesterday with flashing my n810. took the usb hub out of the equation and it worked. |
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| 04:07.20 | tom-davidson | hi, does anyone know if maemo can use a swap partitino rather than a virtual mem file? |
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| 04:09.00 | Luke-Jr | tom-davidson: the difference being? |
| 04:09.58 | tom-davidson | when i boot mer or my experimental maemo it would use the same space ... the same space being the interanl memory and not the internal or exteral flash |
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| 04:37.22 | sarower | Good morning all |
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| 04:39.10 | sarower | for desktop widget (home screen applet) what is the mechanism to handle the drag (stylus motion) event. If i drag in the applet, system handles the drag event. How i can get the drag event from my applet |
| 04:39.23 | sarower | any body any help or any idea? |
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| 05:31.34 | parsimoniae | !rules |
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| 06:17.38 | hal9k2010 | have some questions about the n800 and n810 anyone that can help ? |
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| 06:18.15 | ShadowJK | tom-davidson, you can't use the internal nand memory as flash |
| 06:18.31 | ShadowJK | as swap, I mean |
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| 06:21.13 | johnx | well, you probably could, but anyone who wants to can figure it out on their own and do it at their own peril |
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| 06:47.09 | tom-davidson | shadowjk: ok i understand better now that my swap should be on my external card. i missunderstood the internal raw nand... thought it didnt wear. BUT with swap on my external SD.,.. how do i get maemo to use it? |
| 06:48.20 | ShadowJK | I do: swapon /media/mmc1/.swap |
| 06:48.21 | ShadowJK | manually |
| 06:48.22 | ShadowJK | :/ |
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| 06:49.12 | johnx | a symlink, maybe? or just edit the boot script |
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| 07:29.06 | tom-davidson | shadowjk: johnx: thanks. i think the swapon was just want i wanted. |
| 07:29.12 | tom-davidson | goodnight |
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| 09:22.50 | yerga | qwerty12_N810, have you seen this? http://tinyurl.com/lmj49e |
| 09:24.30 | qwerty12_N810 | yerga: hehe, I hadn't, thanks :) |
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| 09:41.57 | L0cutus | re |
| 09:42.16 | L0cutus | does exist a zfs-fuse port to maemo ? |
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| 10:07.52 | Andy80 | hi all |
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| 11:56.07 | X-Fade | Jaffa: ping? |
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| 12:33.20 | hendry | i need to automate armel builds |
| 12:33.52 | hendry | so how do people do that generally? pbuilder? script /scratchbox/login |
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| 12:35.57 | lbt | hendry: in general? or for maemo specifically |
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| 12:37.39 | hendry | well say you have a debian packaged product, and you want to target maemo as well as Debianx86 |
| 12:37.47 | X-Fade | http://maemo.org/news/announcements/registration_maemo_summit_2009_open/ |
| 12:38.25 | hendry | right now, i checkout source. remove debconf stuff. login to scratchbox, dpkg-buildpackage, log out and dput |
| 12:38.38 | lbt | hendry: I ask because Mer uses an autobuilder called OBS |
| 12:38.44 | hendry | it's quite manual. |
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| 12:39.40 | lbt | I think you need to think about basing on orig.tar.gz |
| 12:40.02 | lbt | and providing debian.diff.gz and debian-maemo.diff.gz |
| 12:40.57 | lbt | maemo has lots of scratchboxisms |
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| 12:42.31 | RST38h | in other words, it's all scratchy |
| 12:42.58 | lbt | and much of Mer packaging is about removing these |
| 12:43.05 | lbt | heh - it sure is |
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| 12:48.08 | hendry | Urghhh |
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| 12:50.41 | Andy80 | X-Fade, cool news :) |
| 12:50.54 | Andy80 | X-Fade, I'm registering ;) |
| 12:51.44 | X-Fade | Andy80: Hurry, only 293 places left ;) |
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| 12:52.52 | Andy80 | X-Fade, lol :D |
| 12:53.29 | Andy80 | X-Fade, I think the hardest part is "Reason for requesting Nokia sponsorship" ;) |
| 12:54.36 | lbt | X-Fade: Primary community project and Project ? Should that be "Other community projects" ? |
| 12:54.37 | RST38h | Andy80: That's easy - "NO MONEY" |
| 12:55.41 | Andy80 | X-Fade, there's a little error in wiki page, it's still present "Not yet, but for you to know:" right after "Registration", can I remove it? |
| 12:55.53 | X-Fade | Andy80: Sure. It is a wiki ;) |
| 12:55.59 | Andy80 | RST38h, and it's true, at least for me. I'm a student :( |
| 12:56.58 | X-Fade | lbt: Indeed. Will fix that. |
| 13:00.47 | Andy80 | X-Fade, it doesn't let me go again to that page.... don't know why... it's better if you try to fix it |
| 13:01.47 | X-Fade | Andy80: Ah, I know where. I'll fix that. |
| 13:02.58 | Andy80 | ok |
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| 13:04.44 | Andy80 | X-Fade, the link that appears in the registration form (in my case: http://maemo.org/news/events/registrations/register/e840196271eb11deb15535a00f6d72187218 ) is personal/related to session-id, or is public? |
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| 13:05.31 | X-Fade | Andy80: That is the public url. |
| 13:05.38 | Andy80 | ok |
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| 13:12.05 | Andy80 | blogged too ;) |
| 13:12.20 | VDVsx | X-Fade, karma changes ? |
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| 13:19.01 | GAN800 | I hate this phone. |
| 13:19.16 | thux | why? |
| 13:19.20 | X-Fade | lbt: Description changed and added second column to the participants list. |
| 13:19.45 | RST38h | <he wants his Moto RAZR> |
| 13:19.48 | RST38h | hides |
| 13:20.23 | GAN800 | Because it doesn't work correctly, and Nokia is a pretty shitty manufacturer. |
| 13:20.44 | thux | what model it is? |
| 13:20.58 | GAN800 | 5800 |
| 13:21.03 | RST38h | GAN: It is one of better Nokia phones, ironically :) |
| 13:21.50 | lbt | hmmm the 2nd time I go to the form it says "Login" and just returns to that page |
| 13:22.05 | thux | i have old n85 and it works reasonable well |
| 13:22.45 | X-Fade | thux: N85 is not that old? |
| 13:23.11 | thux | but not as new as 5800 |
| 13:23.13 | VDVsx | RST38h, best nokia phone = n95 :P |
| 13:23.19 | till- | n82! |
| 13:23.29 | RST38h | VDV: It's a brick. |
| 13:23.36 | RST38h | E70 forever =) |
| 13:23.37 | VDVsx | RST38h, nah nah |
| 13:23.50 | RST38h | Although it is also a brick. |
| 13:23.54 | VDVsx | lol |
| 13:24.13 | qwerty12_N810 | RST38h: for the true brick experience: E90 |
| 13:24.48 | RST38h | qwerty: looks like a concealed gun when in the pocket |
| 13:24.57 | RST38h | qwerty: scary thing |
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| 13:25.08 | qwerty12_N810 | heh |
| 13:25.51 | RST38h | Seriously though, if Nokia does not deliver its maemophone soon enough, I will have to start shopping for a new phone =( |
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| 13:27.16 | VDVsx | RST38h, you need a iphone :P |
| 13:27.24 | RST38h | VDV: fuck that. |
| 13:27.24 | VDVsx | hides |
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| 13:29.08 | Jaffa | X-Fade: I can't get back in to my registration |
| 13:29.39 | VDVsx | RST38h, not kidding now, samsung has/will have some interesting devices o_0 |
| 13:29.43 | X-Fade | Jaffa: Hmm might be a rights setting. Let me see. |
| 13:30.04 | Jaffa | X-Fade: despite being logged in on both http & https, it takes tme to a login page and doesn't let me get past it (no error) |
| 13:30.06 | RST38h | VDV: Not programmable |
| 13:30.18 | X-Fade | Jaffa: Yeah, that sounds like a permission issue. |
| 13:30.31 | lcuk | Jaffa, you are registered |
| 13:30.36 | dieb_ | How to port c++ libraries to maemo? Which tools should be used? Specifically, does anyone know whether if libQxt is being ported? |
| 13:30.36 | lcuk | http://maemo.org/news/events/maemo_summit_2009/ |
| 13:30.39 | lcuk | listed here |
| 13:30.40 | VDVsx | RST38h, you can do some hacking for s60 and android :) |
| 13:30.42 | lcuk | it did the same with me |
| 13:31.02 | X-Fade | lcuk: yeah, but you should be allowed to change things. |
| 13:31.05 | RST38h | VDV: They do have a few S60 devices but I have heard some nasty rumors about compatibility with mainline S60 apps |
| 13:31.19 | RST38h | dieb: Could you elaborate |
| 13:31.29 | RST38h | dieb; What exactly do you want to do? |
| 13:31.30 | lcuk | ahhhh |
| 13:32.18 | VDVsx | RST38h, ah right, nokia S60 != samsung s60, really a shame :( |
| 13:32.26 | hendry | how do people script /scratchbox/login? I want to : /scratchbox/login; cd code; fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -B |
| 13:32.29 | RST38h | it is more like ~= |
| 13:32.40 | Jaffa | lcuk: I know. I wanted to change my "other community projects" ;-) |
| 13:32.42 | VDVsx | ;) |
| 13:32.42 | RST38h | Stuff runs but behaves weirdly |
| 13:33.34 | GAN800 | The login form is still broken to the point of uselessness in MicroB. |
| 13:33.58 | Jaffa | GAN800: The login infrastructure's pretty broken everywhere, IME ;-) |
| 13:35.42 | GAN800 | Seemingly |
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| 13:35.51 | GAN800 | Needs to do away with the js or something. |
| 13:36.00 | GAN800 | It just plain doesn't work. |
| 13:37.29 | lbt | dieb_: http://qt4.garage.maemo.org/ |
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| 13:37.52 | dieb_ | lbt: does it include Qxt? |
| 13:37.54 | X-Fade | Jaffa: Better now? |
| 13:37.57 | lbt | qxt isn't specifically supported but should be easy to port and we'd like to add it to the gitorious repo |
| 13:37.59 | dieb_ | Qxt is not Qt |
| 13:38.11 | lbt | no it layers on it |
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| 13:39.18 | lbt | you'd need to get it working with the qt-maemo team |
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| 13:39.19 | lbt | that includes getting qxt people helping to package it |
| 13:39.19 | X-Fade | GAN800: Works for me on microb? |
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| 13:39.19 | lbt | should be fairly easy |
| 13:39.19 | GAN800 | X-Fade, N800 |
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| 13:39.35 | X-Fade | GAN800: What does it do for you? |
| 13:39.44 | X-Fade | GAN800: Focus issues? |
| 13:39.59 | dieb_ | lbt: is there anyone working on this already? |
| 13:40.11 | GAN800 | Probably not clearing the field properly or something stupid. |
| 13:40.12 | Jaffa | X-Fade: No. |
| 13:40.12 | lbt | not qxt AFAIK - a few of us work on Qt |
| 13:40.15 | GAN800 | fkb |
| 13:40.27 | Jaffa | X-Fade: Still broken. |
| 13:40.37 | GAN800 | Had to change my input settings to make it work. |
| 13:40.57 | GAN800 | wonders what he should put for projects. |
| 13:41.05 | dieb_ | lbt: as I'll need Qxt on maemo, I'll probably give it a try porting it |
| 13:41.29 | RST38h | Wiki? |
| 13:41.30 | dieb_ | could you point me to any document related to ports ? |
| 13:42.06 | RST38h | does not quite understand what dieb wants |
| 13:42.36 | RST38h | dieb: You just want to compile Qxt on Maemo? |
| 13:42.57 | lbt | http://gitorious.org/qt-maemo |
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| 13:48.44 | dieb_ | RST38h: yes |
| 13:48.49 | X-Fade | GAN800: Worked fine on my N800 with vkb? |
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| 13:51.35 | GAN800 | X-Fade, try finger keyboard. |
| 13:51.49 | GAN800 | Which is the only keyboard enabled on my tablet. |
| 13:51.51 | X-Fade | GAN800: Ok. |
| 13:53.23 | X-Fade | GAN800: Worked fine. |
| 13:53.43 | GAN800 | Well, doesn't work here. |
| 13:54.10 | X-Fade | GAN800: click in username, finger keyboard username, pressed minimize, click password, finger keyboard password, minimize, click go? |
| 13:54.27 | GAN800 | Yes |
| 13:54.50 | X-Fade | That worked for me. |
| 13:54.57 | GAN800 | Also: tapping a field after information has been entered doesn't bring up that info in the fkb. |
| 13:55.40 | X-Fade | GAN800: That is a browser/fkb bug then? |
| 13:56.02 | X-Fade | GAN800: Nothing happens to these fields with javascript? |
| 13:59.09 | X-Fade | Jaffa: can you try again? |
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| 14:25.02 | lcuk | X-Fade, i just retried, and it indeed allows editing some fields. but the one jaffa mentioned (his projects) is still appearing to come from the default profile and unchangable |
| 14:25.23 | X-Fade | lcuk: Yeah, those you need to change in your own profile. |
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| 14:26.03 | lcuk | so for jaffa's sake, if he changes them in his default profile, and then comes here to edit his application it should pick them up? |
| 14:26.42 | X-Fade | lcuk: It would show in the list already when you edit your profile. |
| 14:27.21 | lcuk | cool |
| 14:27.25 | lcuk | hows your wii arm |
| 14:27.40 | X-Fade | Hehe, pretty well ;) |
| 14:27.44 | lcuk | and are we planning on having one at the summit! |
| 14:27.55 | lcuk | or should we make our own :D |
| 14:28.39 | X-Fade | lcuk: Image a wrist-strap attached to a N900 ;) |
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| 14:29.20 | lcuk | oooh, you mean theres a lanyard attachment? |
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| 14:29.55 | X-Fade | No idea, but if you would make the N900 a wiimote it would be a good idea to have one at least ;) |
| 14:31.30 | lcuk | hah |
| 14:31.37 | lcuk | we should have these on the canals |
| 14:31.38 | lcuk | http://www.sinosplice.com/life/archives/2007/02/27/like-a-hamster-ball-on-the-water |
| 14:33.04 | woglinde | lcuk haha |
| 14:33.22 | woglinde | looks the same as the land's one |
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| 14:36.06 | X-Fade | lcuk: Yeah, those are cool! |
| 14:37.15 | lcuk | indeed they are :D |
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| 14:37.41 | lcuk | what do you think is the biggest practical database in maemo (the one with big recordsets) ? |
| 14:37.50 | lcuk | needs some comparisons |
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| 14:39.53 | LinuxCode | so we finally have got a name for the new Nxxx ? |
| 14:40.54 | GAN800 | No. |
| 14:41.20 | LinuxCode | is still waiting very patiently for news |
| 14:41.25 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 14:41.37 | lcuk | http://www.lolpix.com/pictures/8/Funny_Pictures_595.htm :) |
| 14:41.52 | GAN800 | is very, very tired. |
| 14:41.58 | lcuk | LinuxCode, you need to sit up straight |
| 14:42.09 | LinuxCode | ? |
| 14:42.13 | LinuxCode | i cant |
| 14:42.24 | lcuk | cant have you slouching or nokia wont think you are ready |
| 14:42.29 | LinuxCode | my cat is occupying the office chair |
| 14:42.43 | lcuk | your cat will make a very nice comfortable cushion then |
| 14:42.48 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 14:42.55 | LinuxCode | i disagree |
| 14:42.56 | lcuk | it will quickly move :) |
| 14:43.06 | LinuxCode | dont bet on it |
| 14:43.08 | lcuk | or will rip your ass to shreds |
| 14:43.17 | LinuxCode | its claws and teeth will move |
| 14:43.21 | lcuk | one way or the other, you will know |
| 14:43.22 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 14:43.27 | LinuxCode | yep |
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| 14:44.05 | LinuxCode | maybe I should send nokia my cat |
| 14:44.12 | LinuxCode | maybe that would speed things up |
| 14:44.36 | LinuxCode | meeeeeeooooooowwwwww |
| 14:45.02 | lcuk | dont bet upon it. once the nokians get word theres some pussy skulking around, you really think they will do any work? |
| 14:47.00 | LinuxCode | probably not |
| 14:47.07 | lcuk | this looks like the back of my pooter |
| 14:47.09 | lcuk | http://www.lolpix.com/pictures/11/Funny_Pictures_594.htm |
| 14:47.33 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 14:47.39 | LinuxCode | mine is all tidy |
| 14:48.05 | LinuxCode | bought some radaitor pipe covering stuff and screwed that under the desk |
| 14:48.06 | lcuk | i used to lay everything down nice and neat |
| 14:48.14 | LinuxCode | now all cables lay within that |
| 14:48.40 | lcuk | heh, thats all well and good until you need to change one wire |
| 14:48.54 | LinuxCode | theres plenty of space |
| 14:48.59 | LinuxCode | easy to thread |
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| 15:01.37 | Talus_Laptop | cool |
| 15:01.43 | Talus_Laptop | maemo videos |
| 15:01.45 | Talus_Laptop | http://garrgle.net/?qkw=maemo&qcat=video&qcoll=relevance&rfcid=6000&rfcp=IntelliFindTop&_iceUrlFlag=11?_IceUrl=true |
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| 15:53.16 | fiferboy | Hi lbt |
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| 16:01.44 | fiferboy | woglinde: Hi |
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| 16:29.57 | Jaffa | X-Fade: perfect |
| 16:30.10 | Jaffa | X-Fade: but I can't change my "other projects" anyway, ho hum. |
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| 16:56.31 | wazd | wee, 931 Gb of free space :P |
| 16:57.55 | slonopotamus | wazd, oh noes! you purged all porn? |
| 16:58.06 | Luke-Jr | beats slonopotamus |
| 16:58.12 | wazd | slonopotamus: I bought new HDD to get MORE! |
| 16:58.22 | slonopotamus | :D |
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| 16:58.27 | wazd | xD |
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| 16:59.59 | RST38h | ehlo all |
| 17:00.06 | wazd | RST38h: heya |
| 17:00.28 | RST38h | wazd: how are things? =) |
| 17:01.13 | wazd | RST38h: just got new terabyte HDD :) Now my nightmare bout "where to store all those goddamn RAW photos" is finally over :) |
| 17:01.35 | RST38h | well, it is a bit delayed now :) |
| 17:02.27 | wazd | RST38h: I hope to buy BD-R asap :) |
| 17:03.07 | wazd | RST38h: as soon as they'll stop having such a ridiculous price |
| 17:03.58 | wazd | RST38h: but first I need proper display cause my current starting to say "I'm dying, kill me!" :) |
| 17:04.14 | RST38h | wazd: Optical disks are said to have short lives |
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| 17:05.49 | RST38h | wazd: Apple display? =) |
| 17:05.56 | wazd | RST38h: I can still run Carmageddon from CD so I think it's more marketing bullshit than something serious |
| 17:06.08 | RST38h | wazd: It's not. |
| 17:06.41 | wazd | RST38h: well, this CD is right from 1997 or something :) |
| 17:06.48 | RST38h | wazd: I tried reading a few 3-year-old backup CDRs once, and got very mixed results (and yes, I used the tool that detects crc errors too) |
| 17:06.57 | RST38h | wazd: Is it a pressed CD or a CDR? |
| 17:07.06 | wazd | RST38h: pirate cd :) |
| 17:07.22 | RST38h | wazd: Those also come in two varieties |
| 17:07.35 | RST38h | Back in 1997 they were USUALLY pressed though |
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| 17:09.34 | wazd | RST38h: I want something like this: http://market.yandex.ru/model.xml?hid=91052&modelid=2485880 |
| 17:10.54 | lcuk | wazd, the nightmare is never over. when you think you solved the problem with a bigger harddrive, you actually made it worse because its impractical to do offline backup |
| 17:11.24 | wazd | RST38h: pretty expensive but a very good one |
| 17:11.38 | wazd | lcuk: RAW photos are *really* big :) |
| 17:11.51 | coldboot | fiferboy: Hey Andrew, are you around? |
| 17:11.55 | lcuk | and your tears will be even greater when you lose more data |
| 17:12.11 | wazd | lcuk: don't think that anyone will allow me to store that much somewhere in the net |
| 17:12.16 | lcuk | i know they are massive, i have similar situation with my own data |
| 17:12.55 | lcuk | theoretically wazd, you can push quite insane amounts of data at the net |
| 17:13.01 | lcuk | and have a good chance of getting some back |
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| 17:14.28 | RST38h | wazd: There is also a similarly specced Samsung |
| 17:14.38 | RST38h | wazd: May come cheaper |
| 17:15.26 | wazd | RST38h: everyone says that this HP is a true must-have :) |
| 17:15.54 | wazd | RST38h: I haven't read any negative opinion bout it. I mean any :) |
| 17:16.08 | RST38h | wazd: There is something suspicious about it |
| 17:16.23 | RST38h | wazd: A 24" monitor can't cost $1000+, even here |
| 17:16.32 | wazd | RST38h: If it was benq or something - I would agree with you :) |
| 17:16.43 | RST38h | wazd: Any monitor |
| 17:16.52 | RST38h | wazd: A moment, lemme check around |
| 17:16.57 | wazd | RST38h: It's a dreamcolor series, 102% NTSC :) |
| 17:17.07 | lbt | hi fiferboy |
| 17:17.16 | RST38h | wazd: Still. |
| 17:17.33 | fiferboy | coldboot, lbt hey |
| 17:17.40 | wazd | RST38h: it doesn't cost 1000+ btw, it costs near 1000 |
| 17:17.48 | fiferboy | hi wazd |
| 17:17.50 | RST38h | wazd: Ok, Froogle shows it starting at $435 in the US, with average price about $550 |
| 17:17.50 | coldboot | fiferboy: So I managed to build the 4.5.2 of the fix, without segfaults. |
| 17:17.53 | wazd | $985 |
| 17:18.00 | coldboot | fiferboy: I can't build 4.5.0 because of some stupid include path problem. |
| 17:18.02 | wazd | fiferboy: heya! |
| 17:18.05 | RST38h | wazd: rur33000 is >$1000 right now |
| 17:18.07 | wazd | RST38h: that's TN |
| 17:18.22 | fiferboy | coldboot: I am just testing your latest fix now. |
| 17:18.24 | RST38h | wazd: I am just searching for LP2475W |
| 17:18.28 | wazd | RST38h: check out price.ru |
| 17:18.33 | RST38h | wazd: Should I add something else to the id? |
| 17:18.37 | RST38h | wazd: checking |
| 17:18.46 | wazd | RST38h: 29058 р. ($985.02) |
| 17:19.08 | fiferboy | lbt: I have done a major refactoring on how overshoot is calculated |
| 17:19.40 | fiferboy | coldboot: I still don't get the keyboard pop down... |
| 17:19.48 | wazd | RST38h: Non-TN 24" screen can't cost less than 800 bucks |
| 17:19.52 | coldboot | fiferboy: hmmmm |
| 17:19.54 | RST38h | wazd: It is about twice more expensive than in US |
| 17:20.06 | RST38h | wazd: Unless I am missing some letter in the product id |
| 17:20.17 | wazd | RST38h: yep, that's HP |
| 17:20.24 | fiferboy | coldboot: Clicking a line edit pops it up, but clicking a checkbox or drop down doesn't get rid of it |
| 17:20.29 | wazd | RST38h: it's like Apple in PC world |
| 17:20.31 | RST38h | wazd: HP is the brand name :) |
| 17:20.37 | lcuk | wazd, that looks like an impressive monitor |
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| 17:21.15 | fiferboy | coldboot: Actually, a non-editable drop down does pop it down, my mistake |
| 17:21.45 | lbt | so I see |
| 17:21.58 | fiferboy | coldboot: For some reason a check box does not. And after clicking the checkbox, key presses get sent to the line edit |
| 17:22.04 | wazd | RST38h: I bought my HP mini 2133 in US for about 550 bucks and it still costs more in here |
| 17:22.30 | RST38h | wazd: but twice more? hmmm |
| 17:22.30 | fiferboy | lbt: It makes things simpler in most cases, but it is (at least the way I did it) more complicated during AutoScroll |
| 17:22.46 | RST38h | wazd: Ok, I have got some "secret" info: this monitor uses an IPS LCD panel from LG |
| 17:23.16 | lbt | One area I'm unhappy about is the x/y seperation/code replication |
| 17:23.19 | lcuk | http://www.trustedreviews.com/monitors/review/2009/03/27/HP-LP2475w---24in-H-IPS-Display/p4 :) |
| 17:23.30 | fiferboy | lbt: Where is that? |
| 17:23.35 | RST38h | wazd: Let us see if there is an LG display with the same part ;) |
| 17:23.46 | lbt | if (yScrollState == AutoScroll) ...... if (xScrollState == AutoScroll) |
| 17:23.50 | fiferboy | lbt: Oh, you mean in general in the event filer |
| 17:23.52 | wazd | RST38h: oh, not LG for god sake :) |
| 17:23.55 | lbt | not in your work |
| 17:24.00 | fiferboy | lbt: Yes, there should be a way around that... |
| 17:24.01 | lbt | yes, in general |
| 17:25.11 | fiferboy | lbt: I'm trying to figure out a way to make the AutoScroll overshoot more straight forward |
| 17:25.19 | wazd | lcuk: yep, that baby is goddamn beast :) |
| 17:25.29 | lcuk | the video review shows it nicely |
| 17:26.06 | fiferboy | There are three cases, just plain autoscroll through the body of the list, autoscroll through the body with overshoot at the end, and a list starting out in overshoot (from ManualScroll) and scrolling through the list |
| 17:26.12 | RST38h | wazd: Monitors are commodity nowadays. As long as they both use the same panel you will hardly see the difference |
| 17:26.14 | lbt | yes |
| 17:26.28 | coldboot | How can I include qhildoninputmethodprotocol_p.h from qwidget.cpp in 4.5.0? It works fine in 4.5.2, because it's in private/, but 4.5.0 doesn't generate it the same way... |
| 17:26.44 | lcuk | RST38h, but the package there seems neat too :) i have an lg here and have no complains, but that monitor rox |
| 17:26.49 | fiferboy | Actually, there is a fourth corner case where the list starts out in overshoot and tries to AutoScroll past the limit, but that is easy to take care of |
| 17:26.50 | lcuk | stands with wazd on this debate |
| 17:26.59 | coldboot | fiferboy: Ah, so the hide command isn't being sent. |
| 17:27.18 | coldboot | fiferboy: If you click on the drop down, the keyboard hides, does it still send keys to the LineEdit? |
| 17:27.21 | RST38h | lcuk: ah my point is that this HP uses an LG panel |
| 17:27.30 | wazd | RST38h: Maybe I'm just a snob but I'll better trust that much money to HP :) |
| 17:27.34 | RST38h | lcuk: So why not cut a corner and buy directly from Koreans :) |
| 17:27.35 | coldboot | fiferboy: Even though, you said if you click a checkbox, the keyboard does NOT go away, AND keys still got to the LineEdit. |
| 17:27.35 | fiferboy | coldboot: I can't check, the keyboard is hidden ;) |
| 17:27.45 | coldboot | fiferboy: Oh yeah. |
| 17:27.50 | RST38h | wazd: I do not really trust the "new" HP though... |
| 17:27.51 | coldboot | fiferboy: Well that's not really a problem then. |
| 17:27.59 | coldboot | fiferboy: Because when the keyboard is shown, the proxy gets set. |
| 17:28.05 | fiferboy | coldboot: I think it is not a problem with your code if it hides for one widget but not another |
| 17:28.06 | wazd | RST38h: My mini is absolutely solid :) |
| 17:28.10 | RST38h | wazd: Same shit as DELL, as far as I am concerned... Still respect their old lab equipment and calcs |
| 17:28.16 | RST38h | wazd: Yea, Mini is nice =) |
| 17:28.18 | coldboot | fiferboy: They keyboard shouldn't go away when checking a checkbox, probably. |
| 17:28.22 | fiferboy | coldboot: Yes, and when it doesn't hide it stays on the first widget |
| 17:28.28 | lcuk | RST38h, sometimes cutting corners isnt what is needed :) |
| 17:28.36 | fiferboy | coldboot: Could you check un an unpatched Qt install? |
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| 17:28.41 | coldboot | fiferboy: I bet that behaviour is intentional. "Doo dee doo, I'm typing in a text box, oh let me check that box over there, now I'll type some more". |
| 17:28.54 | fiferboy | coldboot: Could we be |
| 17:29.06 | coldboot | fiferboy: I can check |
| 17:29.09 | fiferboy | s/we/well/ |
| 17:29.19 | wazd | lcuk: damn, video review is like porno for me :( |
| 17:29.24 | coldboot | fiferboy: Shopper? |
| 17:29.27 | lcuk | heh |
| 17:29.52 | fiferboy | coldboot: I'm not sure if there are check boxes near input fields, I am using my own program to test |
| 17:30.24 | coldboot | lcuk: Do you know how I could include qhildoninputmethodprotocol_p.h from qwidget.cpp? I include "private/qhildoninputmethodprotocol_p.h" which is a generated location in maemo 4.5.2, but in 4.5.0 it's not being copied there... |
| 17:30.46 | wazd | RST38h: lcuk: right now I have http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/tft-monitor/fujitsu-siemens-scaleoview-w19-1/ |
| 17:30.54 | coldboot | fiferboy: I bet it's in the original behaviour. There's no reason my code would cause the bug in this checkbox situation, and not for other widgets. |
| 17:31.06 | lcuk | coldboot, i know no specifics about qt |
| 17:31.06 | wazd | One of the best TN screens out there |
| 17:31.21 | coldboot | fiferboy: I bet checkboxes never get focus, because they don't do anything after you click them. |
| 17:31.25 | fiferboy | coldboot: Next time I make a build I will take out your code and see how it acts |
| 17:31.27 | coldboot | lcuk: k |
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| 17:33.41 | lbt | checkboxes do get focus |
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| 17:34.07 | RST38h | wazd: Found similar LG monitor for rur27434 |
| 17:34.07 | lbt | you can use arrow/tab keystrokes to move focus and space to select |
| 17:34.31 | wazd | RST38h: I'd better add 1500 and buy HP :) |
| 17:34.35 | wazd | RST38h: seriously :) |
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| 17:35.11 | RST38h | wazd: incredible brand loyalty =) |
| 17:35.22 | wazd | RST38h: maybe :) |
| 17:35.40 | wazd | RST38h: can you give me the link to LG? |
| 17:36.10 | RST38h | wazd: http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/lg-l246wp-bn-flat/4505-3174_7-32443394.html |
| 17:37.51 | wazd | RST38h: # TFT Technology MVA |
| 17:38.01 | RST38h | wazd: Other sites say IPS |
| 17:38.07 | wazd | RST38h: they are damn slow |
| 17:38.12 | RST38h | Ok, I have found something better: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/search.php?query=&select=model |
| 17:38.15 | wazd | RST38h: even S-IPS are slow |
| 17:38.24 | RST38h | Simply search for the panel name |
| 17:38.34 | wazd | RST38h: HP has H-IPS - latest stuff |
| 17:39.49 | RST38h | wazd: So does Phillips apparently |
| 17:39.49 | wazd | RST38h: 24"WS LG.Display H-IPS (LM240WU4) |
| 17:39.49 | RST38h | aha |
| 17:40.43 | wazd | RST38h: looks like phil is not available in here |
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| 17:40.56 | wazd | RST38h: and it's ugly :D |
| 17:41.03 | RST38h | wazd: Yep. price.ru knows nothing of it |
| 17:41.20 | RST38h | HP does look like the only game n town, this would explain the price |
| 17:41.48 | wazd | RST38h: HP knows that Pro-display shouldn't have any lights and bling-bling on the front :) |
| 17:43.12 | RST38h | wazd: I am sure it is simply a mistake on their part :) |
| 17:43.23 | RST38h | wazd: Forgot to include the Blue LED (tm) |
| 17:43.53 | RST38h | wazd: My BBK has got such a huge Blue LED (tm) that it can be used for reading at night |
| 17:44.19 | wazd | RST38h: BBK, eeeek :) |
| 17:44.27 | lbt | DGM... |
| 17:44.57 | RST38h | wazd: it's a dvd player/recorder, not a monitor :) |
| 17:45.44 | RST38h | wazd: can't really fault them for their av stuff, it is semidecent |
| 17:45.48 | wazd | RST38h: crappy "look at yourself, bitch!" apple cinema 24 costs fricking $1300 |
| 17:46.22 | wazd | RST38h: oh, I have BORG with same huge blue led stuff :) |
| 17:46.32 | wazd | RST38h: won it in karaoke contest :D |
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| 17:47.06 | RST38h | wazd: Ah, fashion! |
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| 17:50.41 | wazd | RST38h: http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/9774/a76lt5.jpg |
| 17:50.52 | wazd | RST38h: nec 2490 on the left, HP on the right |
| 17:51.07 | wazd | RST38h: but Nec is insane expensive and slow :( |
| 17:51.33 | wazd | RST38h: it's like 40000 rur or something |
| 17:54.05 | RST38h | wazd: This is the same panel? I can't believe it... |
| 17:54.39 | RST38h | That must be some camera effect... |
| 17:55.00 | wazd | RST38h: no, nec is MVA if I remember correct |
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| 17:56.11 | wazd | RST38h: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgWbsOeFKms |
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| 17:57.32 | RST38h | ah ok |
| 17:58.24 | RST38h | wazd: So, MVA has got better blacks at the cost of speed? Or the viewing angle? |
| 17:58.40 | wazd | RST38h: they are damn slow |
| 17:58.48 | RST38h | oh |
| 18:03.45 | RST38h | wazd: have you considered monitors with led backlight? |
| 18:04.18 | wazd | RST38h: I'm considering any monitor with good picture and affordable price :) |
| 18:06.33 | RST38h | Ah so LED ones are even more expensive... |
| 18:09.34 | coldboot | fiferboy: I seem to have forgotten how to build qt-maemo 4.5.2, the debian directory is missing in branch qt-diablo... |
| 18:10.10 | fiferboy | coldboot: From your git clone you checked out origin/4.5 and then from there checked out origin/qt-diablo? |
| 18:10.18 | coldboot | fiferboy: Yeah |
| 18:10.37 | fiferboy | coldboot: git branch says you are in the qt-diablo branch? |
| 18:10.43 | coldboot | fiferboy: Yeah. |
| 18:10.51 | fiferboy | What is the last commit message in git log? |
| 18:10.55 | coldboot | fiferboy: I merged qt-diablo with him-proxy, though. |
| 18:11.21 | fiferboy | coldboot: In the qt-diablo branch you did 'git merge him-proxy'? |
| 18:11.30 | coldboot | fiferboy: Yeah, I did that. |
| 18:11.40 | coldboot | fiferboy: Last message that's not mine: Crash fix. Qt apps crash when backspace is pressed and autocapitalization is active |
| 18:12.29 | fiferboy | coldboot: In my qt-diablo branch, the last message that is not mine is "Update debian/changelog..." |
| 18:12.41 | fiferboy | coldboot: When did you do your clone? |
| 18:13.04 | coldboot | fiferboy: A couple of weeks ago, it used to have debian in there... Because I did dpkg-buildpackage two days ago... |
| 18:13.51 | fiferboy | coldboot: From 4.5 branch, try wiping out your qt-diablo branch and checking it out again |
| 18:14.11 | fiferboy | coldboot: You might want to refresh your clone first, there are some speed improvements in 4.5.2-1maemo2 |
| 18:14.27 | coldboot | fiferboy: How do I do that? |
| 18:15.09 | fiferboy | coldboot: 'git checkout master', 'git pull', 'git checkout 4.5', 'git branch -D qt-diablo', 'git checkout -b qt-diablo origin/qt-diablo' |
| 18:15.11 | fiferboy | I think |
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| 18:15.40 | fiferboy | Then you can do your merge |
| 18:15.56 | fiferboy | coldboot: Although, would that update purely from your clone, or update your clone from qt-maemo? |
| 18:16.11 | coldboot | fiferboy: That will come from my clone directly. |
| 18:16.37 | coldboot | fiferboy: It's tracking qt-diablo, but it's still missing debian/ |
| 18:16.39 | coldboot | Weird. |
| 18:16.41 | fiferboy | coldboot: I'm not exactly sure how you would update your clone from qt-maemo... |
| 18:17.10 | fiferboy | coldboot: Even if you switch to your 4.5 branch, delete the qt-diablo branch and re-check it out? |
| 18:17.21 | coldboot | fiferboy: Yeah |
| 18:17.52 | coldboot | I think I messed up qt-diablo with some push |
| 18:18.05 | fiferboy | coldboot: That is strange. Maybe you modified your qt-diablo branch locally and pushed it to your clone? |
| 18:18.18 | fiferboy | coldboot: I know I have done that, my qt-diablo branch is a bit screwed up now |
| 18:20.52 | fiferboy | coldboot: I only do 'git push origin HEAD' from the branch I want to update now |
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| 18:21.28 | coldboot | I need to make qt-diablo track qt-maemo/qt-diablo somehow. |
| 18:21.55 | fiferboy | coldboot: You can add the qt-maemo repository as a remote and make a branch from that |
| 18:22.18 | fiferboy | coldboot: Then you should be able to push the corrected branch to your clone |
| 18:22.34 | esaym153 | ugh |
| 18:22.43 | esaym153 | I want my backordered n810 from nokia right now |
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| 18:26.09 | coldboot | fiferboy: I added qt-maemo as a remote, but I can't find qt-diablo with `git ls-remote qt-maemo` |
| 18:26.21 | mgedmin | registers for the maemo summit |
| 18:26.21 | fiferboy | coldboot: Did you do a fetch? |
| 18:26.44 | fiferboy | thinks about registering for the maemo summit |
| 18:26.57 | jeremiah | Hmm. Didn't know summit regustration was open. |
| 18:27.10 | jeremiah | How about a URL mgedmin? |
| 18:27.22 | mgedmin | planet.maemo.org just had a couple of links |
| 18:27.28 | jeremiah | Cool. |
| 18:27.35 | coldboot | fiferboy: I got it! Yeah I had to fetch. |
| 18:27.48 | mgedmin | eeeek! http://maemo.org/news/events/registrations/register/e840196271eb11deb15535a00f6d72187218 |
| 18:27.51 | mgedmin | what a SCARY link |
| 18:28.07 | mgedmin | does an event like the "maemo-summit-2009" *really* need a long, hexadecimal UUID? |
| 18:28.26 | Stskeeps | yes, it's technical hardcore! |
| 18:28.27 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 18:28.47 | fiferboy | It's to scare off people who aren't serious |
| 18:29.05 | mgedmin | now I'm wondering if that's maybe a permalink to my personal details page :) |
| 18:29.32 | RST38h | mgedmin: Yes! |
| 18:29.45 | esaym153 | amsterdam? pot smokers can program? |
| 18:29.56 | RST38h | And you should be thankful they only used hex digits... |
| 18:31.10 | adeus | if you're doing c or c++, pot is the minimum |
| 18:31.21 | esaym153 | I like c++ |
| 18:31.24 | fiferboy | coldboot: Let me know if you are able to clean up your qt-diablo branch in your clone |
| 18:31.30 | esaym153 | as long as math isn't involved |
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| 18:32.18 | chx | mgedmin: thats not an UUID |
| 18:32.29 | fiferboy | coldboot: checkbox doesn't clear the vkb in the old him code either |
| 18:32.32 | chx | mgedmin: to my eyes that looks like an md5 sum but i might be mistaken |
| 18:32.39 | chx | mgedmin: i have not counted the digits |
| 18:33.00 | mgedmin | 144 bits |
| 18:33.29 | mgedmin | to distinguish it from all the 2**144 other events taking place in the maemo community |
| 18:33.49 | mgedmin | we would't want to accidentally mix it up with e840196271eb11bed15535a00f6d72187218, now would we? |
| 18:34.15 | RST38h | we wouldn't? |
| 18:34.32 | lcuk | are you sure? that one involves pole dancing |
| 18:35.13 | mgedmin | polish national dances don't interest me in the least |
| 18:35.18 | mgedmin | one polka is just like another |
| 18:35.21 | lcuk | :D |
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| 18:39.30 | lbt | git checkout --track origin/qt-diablo |
| 18:39.55 | lbt | nm ... I was backscrolled a long way |
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| 18:43.24 | coldboot | fiferboy: qt-diablo is clean in my clone now. |
| 18:43.28 | Jaffa | mgedmin: Taking all the best undecipherable UUIDs from Lotus Notes into the Web 2.0 world... |
| 18:43.33 | coldboot | fiferboy: Okay then the checkbox bug is unrelated, if it really is a bug. |
| 18:44.00 | fiferboy | coldboot: That's good to know, I'm going to clean up my branch too |
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| 18:55.01 | jeremiah | Wow, cool. Jim Zemlin will be talking at the Maemo summit. |
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| 18:55.13 | jeremiah | Look forward to that. |
| 18:57.13 | fiferboy | coldboot: Did you just do a 'git push origin HEAD' or did you have to force it? |
| 18:59.08 | coldboot | coldboot: I did `git push origin qt-diablo --force` |
| 19:00.02 | fiferboy | coldboot: I just refreshed my clone's branch from your clone's branch (since I already had it as a remote) :) |
| 19:00.09 | slonopotamus | why would anyone want to do --force? |
| 19:00.40 | fiferboy | slonopotamus: because we accidentally commited changes to the branch and wanted to revert it |
| 19:00.56 | slonopotamus | :/ |
| 19:01.10 | slonopotamus | commit reverse diffs? |
| 19:01.35 | lbt | git doesn't force you to air dirty laundry |
| 19:01.42 | fiferboy | slonopotamus: It is in personal clones that aren't being used by other people |
| 19:01.49 | slonopotamus | if anyone pulled that between your 'wrong' commit and --force, he'll be in trouble |
| 19:01.54 | coldboot | fiferboy: Cool |
| 19:02.02 | coldboot | fiferboy: I love git. Every day I find out how much more I love it. |
| 19:02.03 | slonopotamus | fiferboy, oh, ok |
| 19:02.11 | coldboot | fiferboy: With all other software, I hate it more every day. |
| 19:02.33 | coldboot | fiferboy: I even hate Windows more each day, because I realize how it can surprise me with undiscovered uselessness. |
| 19:02.38 | fiferboy | coldboot: git is certainly making my life easier, it is hard to beleive how useful it is |
| 19:02.51 | fiferboy | coldboot: Those are undocumented features... |
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| 19:03.47 | coldboot | haha |
| 19:04.18 | fiferboy | Everytime I think I need git to do something it doesn't, it turns out it does I just didn't know it |
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| 19:28.07 | dougt_ | are there APIs to get the HW version? |
| 19:28.20 | Stskeeps | except for /proc/component_version? :P |
| 19:28.40 | dougt_ | anything cleaner? |
| 19:29.29 | Jaffa | That's pretty clean |
| 19:29.51 | Jaffa | Horizon checks /etc/maemo_version at startup for a 5.0 to disable its OSSO support (segfaults in PyMaemo) |
| 19:30.28 | slonopotamus | dougt_, why you want that? |
| 19:31.04 | dougt_ | what I would really like to do is to determine the real DPI. |
| 19:31.13 | dougt_ | not the stuff reported to x |
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| 19:31.58 | slonopotamus | dougt_, you should ask display for that, no? |
| 19:32.05 | slonopotamus | x gets smth wrong? |
| 19:32.30 | dougt_ | xdpyinfo reports 96 |
| 19:33.06 | slonopotamus | dougt_, under Xomap? |
| 19:33.16 | dougt_ | on device, y |
| 19:33.33 | dougt_ | is it suppose to report something else? ;-) |
| 19:33.39 | dougt_ | i thought it was common for X to lie about DPI |
| 19:33.47 | slonopotamus | dougt_, afaik, it's X who lies. |
| 19:34.20 | slonopotamus | dougt_, X was patched to report incorrect value on purpose |
| 19:34.55 | dougt_ | right. |
| 19:35.12 | dougt_ | so, what I need is to get at the real dpi value. |
| 19:35.42 | dougt_ | i was thinking about just looking at the hw version, and deciding based on that. i didn't find a way to get the actual dpi via an api or something like that |
| 19:36.00 | slonopotamus | dougt_, there must be smth low-level that tells X screen dpi |
| 19:36.48 | slonopotamus | dougt_, if you just want to hardcode it - /proc/component_version is absolutely ok |
| 19:36.56 | dougt_ | yeah. |
| 19:37.05 | dougt_ | but not something I would be very proud of. |
| 19:38.10 | slonopotamus | dougt_, i think you'd better ask that on X-related channel. 'how X determines screen dpi' or smth like that |
| 19:38.34 | dougt_ | yup. |
| 19:38.37 | qwerty12_N810 | dougt_: if it'd make you feel any better: the hildon-application-manager does it like that (look at component_version) |
| 19:38.58 | slonopotamus | hehe |
| 19:39.31 | dougt_ | heh |
| 19:39.33 | slonopotamus | dougt_, that means 'you app will suck as h-a-m' :D |
| 19:39.54 | slonopotamus | no offence, just kidding :) |
| 19:40.07 | dougt_ | :-) |
| 19:40.22 | dougt_ | a bunch of people do that. |
| 19:40.33 | dougt_ | haf does too? |
| 19:41.13 | slonopotamus | doesn't understand why dpi matters, actually |
| 19:41.16 | lbt | dpi usually comes from ... <rummage in Xorg.log> ....EDID |
| 19:41.31 | dougt_ | slonopotamus: computers don't matter either. ;-) |
| 19:42.00 | ShadowJK | ugh, wonderful... dd if=/dev/sdh | sha1sum |
| 19:42.04 | ShadowJK | twice... doesn't match |
| 19:42.17 | slonopotamus | ShadowJK, oh my |
| 19:42.25 | slonopotamus | ShadowJK, why it should? |
| 19:42.34 | ShadowJK | Because the contents is unchanged |
| 19:42.50 | slonopotamus | ShadowJK, how do you know that? |
| 19:43.02 | ShadowJK | it's not mounted, nothing should be touching it |
| 19:43.09 | ShadowJK | especially not writing to it |
| 19:43.17 | slonopotamus | oh |
| 19:43.26 | slonopotamus | then you're in trouble |
| 19:43.37 | ShadowJK | wonders whether to blame the usb hub, the card reader, the minisd-sd converter or the minisd card |
| 19:44.09 | slonopotamus | omg |
| 19:44.21 | slonopotamus | try replacing them one by one :P |
| 19:44.28 | slonopotamus | start with card |
| 19:44.34 | ShadowJK | mm |
| 19:49.44 | ShadowJK | A USB memory stick on same USB hub passes this test |
| 19:49.48 | ShadowJK | tries with another usb memory stick |
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| 19:51.55 | coldboot | fiferboy: Can you comment on my merge request? |
| 19:52.13 | fiferboy | coldboot: Sure thing |
| 19:52.27 | coldboot | http://qt.gitorious.org/+qt-maemo-developers/qt/qt-maemo/merge_requests/952 |
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| 20:16.45 | ShadowJK | hah |
| 20:17.09 | ShadowJK | passes test: usb -> card reader, usb -> hub -> card reader |
| 20:17.32 | ShadowJK | fails test: usb -> hub -> { card reader, usb pendrive } |
| 20:17.43 | ShadowJK | but the pendrive passes |
| 20:17.46 | ShadowJK | usb is shit :-( |
| 20:18.22 | timeless_mbp | too much power drawn? |
| 20:18.59 | ShadowJK | powered hub... |
| 20:19.02 | lbt | hmmm http://gitorious.org/maemo-af/vala3 |
| 20:19.06 | ShadowJK | (external adapter) |
| 20:19.12 | lbt | Jaffa: ^^ |
| 20:19.24 | ShadowJK | The hub consumes 100mA, the card reader says 100mA and the pendrive says 100mA :/ |
| 20:19.34 | ShadowJK | so it should be fine even if it was self-powered |
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| 20:24.08 | lcuk | ShadowJK, not fine |
| 20:24.15 | lcuk | my keyboard is 100ma |
| 20:24.25 | lcuk | problem is, power draw increases as you chord more keys |
| 20:24.36 | lcuk | it crashed the machine if i pressed >2 keys |
| 20:26.11 | javispedro | whoo ramzswap! |
| 20:26.54 | fiferboy | coldboot: I found another problem, but I'm not sure if it was pre-existing |
| 20:27.00 | javispedro | i remember reading both very optimistic and very pessimistic reviews about it :D |
| 20:27.23 | fiferboy | coldboot: If I get the keyboard to pop-down by selecting a non-input widget, I can't get it to pop-up again on an input widget |
| 20:27.50 | fiferboy | coldboot: I'm going to test the code before your patch, because I suspect it has nothing to do with your code |
| 20:28.06 | fiferboy | coldboot: I will update you (and the merge request) when I find out more, but I have to go now |
| 20:29.06 | woglinde | hi javispedro |
| 20:29.17 | fiferboy | lbt: Could you review my changes in my clone? There are still some problems in certain cases when autoscrolling starts with an overshoot |
| 20:29.21 | javispedro | hi woglinde :) |
| 20:29.47 | lbt | fiferboy: I am desperately trying to finalise the OBS work and get some Qt time... :) |
| 20:29.59 | fiferboy | lbt: I'll continue to look at it tonight, but my refactor may not be the best solution. |
| 20:30.12 | lbt | sadly I got zero assistance from anyone els in the maemo community on this stuff ... nm :) |
| 20:30.15 | fiferboy | lbt: That's fine, I'll spend another day or so on it and decide if it is feasible |
| 20:30.32 | coldboot | fiferboy: Thanks. |
| 20:30.35 | lbt | no, go slow... I want to get involved ;) |
| 20:30.48 | lbt | gui's are more fun than build services! |
| 20:30.53 | fiferboy | lbt: I'll look into eliminating some repetition as well |
| 20:31.04 | lbt | (which is probably why I'm on my own!) |
| 20:31.29 | lbt | sure -- It may make sense to duplicate the code you know |
| 20:31.35 | Jaffa | lbt: cool. |
| 20:31.35 | fiferboy | lbt: It's good when someone is actually willing to improve the build service, too bad there is no help |
| 20:32.01 | fiferboy | lbt: It seems like the duplication may be necessary because yScrollState and xScrollState can be different |
| 20:32.18 | Jaffa | lbt: WTF? "vala - Maemo's version of Vala"; "vala3 - Don't Ask" |
| 20:32.18 | lbt | yes, I couldn't see an easy solution back then |
| 20:32.33 | lbt | Jaffa: thought you may be interested... |
| 20:32.39 | lbt | vala3 = Qt ? |
| 20:32.41 | fiferboy | Anyhoo, I'm off. Talk to you later |
| 20:32.46 | lbt | take care!! |
| 20:33.01 | fiferboy | lbt: BTW, have you registered for the summit? |
| 20:33.07 | fiferboy | I am trying to decide whether I should go.. |
| 20:33.10 | lbt | yes... |
| 20:34.15 | fiferboy | I'll have to check with my pregnant wife if I'm able to take the time off ;) |
| 20:34.30 | lbt | ah |
| 20:34.47 | lbt | shoulda thought of that back then shouldn't you... |
| 20:35.00 | fiferboy | Also, it would depend on sponsorship, so I should probably apply as soon as possible |
| 20:35.12 | lbt | I would |
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| 20:35.13 | Jaffa | lbt: that's what I'm wondering/hoping |
| 20:35.14 | fiferboy | lbt: I know, bad planning. Summit in September, baby in November |
| 20:35.17 | Jaffa | emailing mvo |
| 20:35.35 | fiferboy | Toodle-oo! |
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| 20:36.05 | lbt | Jaffa : http://gitorious.org/maemo-af/vala3/commits/master |
| 20:36.34 | lbt | I'd say not |
| 20:36.51 | Jaffa | lbt: Indeed. |
| 20:37.33 | lbt | goes to package cross-glibc and patchelf ... |
| 20:37.50 | Jaffa | goes to bed. |
| 20:38.37 | woglinde | good nite jaffa |
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| 20:46.14 | coldboot | lbt: Do you know much about how Qt configures itself? |
| 20:46.24 | lbt | build time? |
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| 20:47.38 | coldboot | lbt: I'm still trying to get src/gui/inputmethod/qhildoninputmethodprotocol.h to be copied to include/QtGui/private in 4.5.0... In 4.5.2 it's been renamed to *_p.h, which makes bin/synqt treat it differently, and I've renamed all instances of it in every file, but it's still not copied over. |
| 20:49.05 | lbt | and why 4.5.0 ? |
| 20:49.12 | lbt | do we care? |
| 20:49.28 | coldboot | lbt: You don't care, but I need this to backport the flicker fix to the version of Qt we have deployed. |
| 20:49.36 | lbt | ah, OK |
| 20:49.39 | coldboot | I was wondering if you knew how Qt did this sort of thing. |
| 20:49.43 | lbt | sure |
| 20:49.49 | lbt | no idea :) |
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| 20:49.54 | coldboot | :( |
| 20:50.07 | coldboot | I'm gonna see when it was renamed in qt-maemo. |
| 20:50.15 | lbt | pickaxe |
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| 20:53.42 | lbt | wow |
| 20:53.48 | lbt | start up gitk |
| 20:53.58 | lbt | select 'find touching paths' |
| 20:53.59 | coldboot | Running `git log -S` on qt-maemo takes a while... |
| 20:54.03 | lbt | and 19fcd40645b263923d316326e2c7bde71cb27c5c |
| 20:54.46 | coldboot | Where is "find touching paths"? |
| 20:55.13 | coldboot | Got it |
| 20:55.15 | coldboot | for qt-maemo? |
| 20:55.16 | lbt | middle drpdown |
| 20:55.20 | lbt | says "containing" |
| 20:55.34 | coldboot | Put 19fcd40645b263923d316326e2c7bde71cb27c5c in the find string, leave it as exact and all fields? |
| 20:55.37 | lbt | Find <next> <prev> commit ...<dropdown> |
| 20:55.40 | lbt | no |
| 20:55.51 | lbt | change the dropdown to "touching paths" |
| 20:55.56 | coldboot | yep |
| 20:55.58 | lbt | pu src/gui/inputmethod/qhildoninputmethodprotocol.h |
| 20:56.01 | lbt | in the the string |
| 20:56.16 | coldboot | Holy crap. |
| 20:56.36 | lbt | fiferboy would wet himself |
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| 20:58.32 | coldboot | That is amazing. |
| 20:58.52 | woglinde | hm what? |
| 20:58.55 | coldboot | I don't get it then, all they did was rename the file, and change the .pri file, and anything that includes it. |
| 20:59.06 | coldboot | I re-ran configure as it's run by dpkg-buildpackage... |
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| 21:04.11 | lbt | woglinde: git - specifically gitk here |
| 21:04.27 | woglinde | iieks gitk |
| 21:04.30 | woglinde | qgit is nicer |
| 21:04.43 | woglinde | gitk has always font problems |
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| 21:22.06 | lbt | coldboot did that do it? |
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| 21:31.28 | coldboot | lbt: No, it doesn't copy the files over. It might be something that dpkg-buildpackage does, though, so I'm trying that now. It just takes forever. |
| 21:31.41 | lbt | no it won't be that |
| 21:31.43 | lbt | for sure |
| 21:32.53 | lbt | what sha# are you using? |
| 21:35.09 | coldboot | lbt: I'm using the subversion revision 546 |
| 21:35.42 | lbt | ok - too complex for me to pull the source + too busy sorry :( |
| 21:35.50 | lbt | you could ask in #qt |
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| 23:25.50 | Macer | anybody around? |
| 23:26.38 | woglinde | nope |
| 23:27.59 | Macer | heh |
| 23:28.25 | Macer | was wondering if someone can check www.rancorous.net and tell me if a wordpress site opens correctly |
| 23:29.14 | woglinde | yes |
| 23:29.15 | woglinde | seems so |
| 23:29.18 | Macer | awesome. thaks |
| 23:29.19 | Macer | :) |
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| 23:29.29 | Macer | can you go to the one post there and tell me if it sends you to like |
| 23:29.35 | Macer | 2009/07/22/postname |
| 23:29.40 | Macer | in the address |
| 23:30.29 | Macer | ? |
| 23:30.43 | woglinde | hm |
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| 23:32.09 | Macer | no? |
| 23:32.22 | woglinde | no |
| 23:32.26 | woglinde | bot in the mood |
| 23:32.55 | Macer | huh? |
| 23:33.05 | woglinde | not in the mood |
| 23:33.11 | Macer | ok |
| 23:33.50 | Macer | thanks for checking the site |
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