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| 02:49.47 | Luke-Jr | qwerty12_N810: no it doesn't, it makes Fn/Ctrl/Alt "sticky" |
| 02:51.08 | xnt14 | oh no....... |
| 02:51.11 | xnt14 | :P |
| 02:51.43 | xnt14 | nevermind :P |
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| 05:53.41 | sarower | for thread programming in maemo which one i can use..? |
| 05:53.53 | sarower | any suggestion? |
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| 06:22.10 | tl | I add my input method plug-ins, why plug-ins menu to choose the input method in the sub-menu is displayed on this gray |
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| 07:26.20 | timeless_mbp | hello world |
| 07:26.41 | danielwilms | morning! :) |
| 07:29.06 | timeless_mbp | do you read maemo bug jar? |
| 07:30.13 | danielwilms | haven't done it yet this morning, but in general yes :) |
| 07:30.33 | timeless_mbp | ok, before you read today's |
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| 07:30.55 | timeless_mbp | can you give me a rough from memory summary of how you remember things from the last bug jar? |
| 07:31.06 | timeless_mbp | mostly an impression |
| 07:31.22 | timeless_mbp | are any components improving? are any components getting worse? |
| 07:31.25 | timeless_mbp | things like that |
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| 07:33.05 | danielwilms | as the new beta_2 came last week a lot of things has been fixed there |
| 07:33.11 | danielwilms | have a look here |
| 07:33.13 | danielwilms | http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo_5_beta_2_release_notes/ |
| 07:36.24 | timeless_mbp | danielwilms: yeah, i don't care :) |
| 07:36.32 | timeless_mbp | that's not the goal of my inquiry |
| 07:36.53 | timeless_mbp | the question is basically: does the bug jar enable you to see where things are getting better |
| 07:37.22 | timeless_mbp | grumbles |
| 07:37.54 | timeless_mbp | why the heck is HAM's section using Justification? |
| 07:38.13 | timeless_mbp | and would someone please teach the relnotes author about HTML's <a href> ? |
| 07:39.04 | timeless_mbp | really hates the color scheme used by maemo.org for links :( |
| 07:39.16 | timeless_mbp | who thought light gray was a good idea for followed links? |
| 07:40.15 | timeless_mbp | oh, also... does anyone know if changes to the Maemo5 Dev Doc online will get reflected back into the original content? |
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| 07:41.17 | danielwilms | timeles_mbp: the bug-jar gives a good overview what the biggest issues are and what was adressed during the week...so you can see some steady improvements...sometimes more, sometimes less ;) |
| 07:42.35 | timeless_mbp | danielwilms: well, after you read today's jar, lemme know which things you think improved :) |
| 07:43.14 | danielwilms | sometimes less :) hey...it's vacation's period :) |
| 07:45.26 | Stskeeps | morning timeless_mbp, danielwilms |
| 07:45.30 | timeless_mbp | hi |
| 07:45.43 | danielwilms | morning |
| 07:45.56 | RST38h | yawns widelu |
| 07:45.57 | RST38h | y |
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| 07:46.16 | RST38h | All right, gentlemen, what are the news? X900? C900? =) |
| 07:46.35 | Stskeeps | Nokia XXX, obviously. |
| 07:47.06 | Stskeeps | with vin diesel in the commercials |
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| 07:49.18 | timeless_mbp | danielwilms: oh, i know that... but that's not the point... |
| 07:49.22 | timeless_mbp | i'm fishing for something specific |
| 07:49.24 | timeless_mbp | play along :) |
| 07:49.39 | timeless_mbp | if the answer is that you don't think anything specific has improved, you can just say that |
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| 07:51.48 | RST38h | Sts: With a vibration feature. |
| 07:52.30 | RST38h | Sts: BTW, Nokia already has a lipstick-shapred fashion phone, so adding a vibration feature to that should work |
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| 07:53.07 | Stskeeps | and we have an instant winner, coupling it with pornographic linux applications |
| 07:53.08 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 07:53.23 | timeless_mbp | somehow i don't think that phone will run linux anytime soon |
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| 07:55.17 | qwerty12_N810 | They could say it has Linuxxx. Maybe that will go down nice with the furries who are into their penguins... |
| 07:56.07 | danielwilms | timeless_mbp: it was equal...almost the same amount of bugs opened and fixed...so slight improvement and some new things found... :) |
| 07:56.32 | timeless_mbp | danielwilms: so you've read and you're done? |
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| 08:05.33 | RST38h | Sts: ...and make it PINK! |
| 08:05.55 | RST38h | Sts: Speaking of which, http://tamss60.tamoggemon.com/2009/04/06/pink-n97-pops-up-at-the-fcc/ |
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| 08:09.01 | Macer | lol |
| 08:09.05 | Macer | i'm looking at the touch book site |
| 08:09.11 | Macer | and all the "reviews" etc of it |
| 08:09.15 | Macer | were from march of 2009 |
| 08:09.18 | Macer | when it was announced |
| 08:09.24 | Macer | thinks it is vaporware |
| 08:09.24 | Macer | lol |
| 08:09.40 | Macer | it is SUPPOSED to come out this month.. they are supposed to start shipping |
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| 08:34.57 | johnx | Macer, seems like a commonality between a lot of OMAP3 devices :) |
| 08:34.59 | suihkulokki | Macer: they started taking pre-orders early this month, and they still kept the "expect to ship in july" so I think they are serious |
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| 08:40.29 | RST38h | Serious people do not take preorders until production starts |
| 08:41.18 | woglinde | *g* |
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| 08:43.38 | woglinde | netbook with ion |
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| 08:46.13 | woglinde | hi florian |
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| 08:48.17 | florian | good morning |
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| 08:54.40 | timeless_mbp | wet morning |
| 08:54.43 | timeless_mbp | very wet |
| 08:54.51 | timeless_mbp | considers staying inside |
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| 09:06.24 | wazd | timeless_mbp: oh, we have slight rain too :( |
| 09:06.40 | wazd | timeless_mbp: and I have to go to my country :( |
| 09:06.50 | timeless_mbp | "country"? |
| 09:06.57 | timeless_mbp | as in going from Russia to Finland? |
| 09:07.00 | timeless_mbp | or "country house" |
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| 09:10.49 | vilen_ | hello |
| 09:11.25 | vilen_ | im developing some software for maemo |
| 09:11.53 | vilen_ | any of you have experience working with the maemo wifi driver? |
| 09:12.23 | vilen_ | please let know, i have some questions :) |
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| 09:14.06 | Stskeeps | what are you trying to do with it? |
| 09:16.54 | vilen_ | basically force sleep/wakeup |
| 09:17.10 | vilen_ | i tried turning txpower on/off |
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| 09:17.38 | vilen_ | but it seems that the driver does not react to those iwreq's |
| 09:17.42 | Stskeeps | hmm, PSM? |
| 09:18.05 | vilen_ | well yeah but there i can play only with the beacon interval |
| 09:18.28 | woglinde | vilen_ might be problem from underlying wlan stack too |
| 09:18.29 | Stskeeps | you can disable it too though |
| 09:18.30 | vilen_ | but yes i have thought about that to |
| 09:18.40 | Stskeeps | yeah - on maemo it will do a lot of nasty things |
| 09:18.53 | Stskeeps | try under Mer or something like that and disable the power saving wifi script |
| 09:18.58 | Stskeeps | you might have better success with it |
| 09:19.24 | vilen_ | sorry i have never heard of Mer before |
| 09:19.39 | Stskeeps | http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer |
| 09:20.16 | Stskeeps | same wifi driver but it doesn't interfere as much |
| 09:21.01 | vilen_ | ok thanks i will give it a go |
| 09:27.21 | Stskeeps | http://dilbert.com/fast <- heh :> |
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| 09:35.15 | timeless_mbp | http://dilbert.com/fast/2009-07-19/ <- better |
| 09:39.33 | timeless_mbp | http://dilbert.com/fast/2009-07-09/ |
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| 09:47.57 | RST38h | More, more rain! |
| 09:48.05 | RST38h | And can we have +12oC please? |
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| 09:54.02 | Macer | ugh |
| 09:54.08 | Macer | have to move like a lot of stuff over to my raid |
| 09:54.09 | Macer | blah |
| 09:54.14 | Macer | i should have done this a long tmie ago |
| 09:54.29 | Macer | the crappy part is going to be when i have to stop the vboxes |
| 09:54.35 | Macer | to move them :( |
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| 12:09.11 | Jaffa | Looking through http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/iphone_vs_android_vs_webos_vs_blackbery_vs_windows_mobile_vs_symbian - Nokia are going to have a hit if they remember to advertise Rover having full Flash. |
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| 12:15.17 | RST38h | It is actually a minor feature though |
| 12:16.15 | qwerty12_N810 | Seen the people on tmo wanting Flash 10 for their tablets? |
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| 12:20.11 | Stskeeps | jeremiah_away: hope you get better :) |
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| 12:22.39 | lcuk | beats up databases |
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| 12:28.56 | lcuk | how big are the map databases usually? does the device happily manage 100mb+ sqlite databases? :$ |
| 12:29.04 | RST38h | qwerty: People on tmo are no indication of anything |
| 12:34.10 | qwerty12_N810 | RST38h: shows there's a demand for it though. (Not from me, personally, I always keep it disabled) :) |
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| 12:35.09 | GeneralAntilles | timelyx, X-Fade, infact. Feel free to suggest an improved option. ;) |
| 12:35.32 | Macer | well |
| 12:35.36 | Macer | talk about a pain in the damn ass |
| 12:35.48 | lcuk | mmmm, what endian order is the arm usually? |
| 12:35.50 | Macer | i just had to migrate my fileserver's home dir |
| 12:35.58 | Macer | to its raid from the rpool |
| 12:36.00 | GeneralAntilles | lcuk, armel. |
| 12:36.07 | Macer | talk about something you should have thought about BEFORE you installed |
| 12:36.12 | lcuk | that doesnt tell me the endianness |
| 12:36.22 | Macer | little |
| 12:36.34 | Macer | little big |
| 12:36.39 | lcuk | damn, so that explains why my png memory function wasnt working :D |
| 12:36.45 | Macer | no i'm just joking |
| 12:36.47 | GeneralAntilles | Advanced RISC Machine Endian Little |
| 12:36.47 | lcuk | mmm thats confusing lol |
| 12:36.48 | Macer | i have no idea |
| 12:37.02 | lcuk | ooooh GeneralAntilles... now it does! |
| 12:37.05 | lcuk | you are a * thanks |
| 12:37.09 | Macer | but i would assume an arm is little |
| 12:37.10 | Macer | heh |
| 12:37.16 | GeneralAntilles | It can be either |
| 12:37.24 | lcuk | facepalms |
| 12:37.32 | GeneralAntilles | But we happen to be little here. |
| 12:37.39 | lcuk | im trying to read png data without saving to an explicit file |
| 12:38.01 | lcuk | filled up all memory space :$ |
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| 13:08.10 | lcuk | facepalsm |
| 13:08.14 | lcuk | it wasnt endianness |
| 13:08.31 | lcuk | it helps if i add the required offset into the memory structure for reading a particular block |
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| 13:12.34 | rkirti|away | wonders what "herring" packages are ...... |
| 13:12.52 | Stskeeps | sardine ? |
| 13:14.33 | rkirti | Stskeeps: /me doesnt know much about sardine except its some bleeding-edge distro for devels to build against |
| 13:15.01 | rkirti | some packages are missing from fremantle after beta2 upgrade...osso-gwconnect for instance |
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| 13:16.53 | Stskeeps | yeah, they no longer depend on it |
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| 13:22.49 | GAN800 | rkirti, Sardine stopped being updated a looong time ago, so the whole bleeding edge thing is a mostly a myth. ;) |
| 13:23.14 | rkirti | GAN800: :-) |
| 13:27.50 | GAN800 | Herring was the stable dev branch, I believe. |
| 13:27.59 | GAN800 | Either way, the fish are dead. |
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| 13:34.41 | Macer | awesome |
| 13:35.33 | Macer | got the home automounter working between my fileserver and client :) |
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| 13:35.54 | lcuk | do labels in gtk NEED a background color, or can they be drawn transparent (im used to vb with opaque and transparent |
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| 13:46.51 | Macer | OK |
| 13:47.23 | Macer | MER DEVELOPERS! |
| 13:47.27 | Macer | stop what you are doing! |
| 13:47.34 | Macer | stop stop stop! |
| 13:47.39 | Macer | http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/osarm |
| 13:47.48 | Macer | U-TURN! use that instead! |
| 13:47.51 | Macer | grins |
| 13:48.30 | locutus | oh dear |
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| 13:49.09 | Stskeeps | Macer: get it on a sheevaplug and we're talking |
| 13:49.53 | Macer | lol! |
| 13:50.33 | Macer | This release support NEC Electronics's NaviEngine 1 (NE1). |
| 13:50.42 | Stskeeps | i have no idea wtf that device is |
| 13:50.46 | Macer | haha |
| 13:51.06 | Macer | http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/osarm/200805/relnotes/ |
| 13:51.35 | Macer | 3. Known Bugs |
| 13:51.35 | Macer | None. |
| 13:51.38 | Macer | HAHA |
| 13:51.40 | Macer | ooook |
| 13:52.16 | Macer | you will learn that in about a year or so all the time you wasted on making "just another linux distro" when you could have been working on groundbreaking opensolaris on arm works :) |
| 13:53.17 | glass | hehe |
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| 13:53.26 | Macer | showing superior coding on embedded platforms and small n800s .. proving that efficient code and kernels can blow linux out of the water |
| 13:53.33 | Macer | and instead you're making debian with a new wm :) |
| 13:53.51 | glass | Macer: yeah that would actually be 'sexy' project |
| 13:53.54 | Macer | haha |
| 13:54.14 | Macer | wouldn't it? i mean it already has gtk/gnome stuff |
| 13:54.16 | glass | Macer: blogofame and gobs of cash from indians |
| 13:54.18 | glass | yeah |
| 13:54.22 | Macer | hahahaha |
| 13:54.29 | Macer | blogofame |
| 13:54.35 | glass | Macer: a friend uses opensolaris at home for disk server |
| 13:54.45 | Macer | i do too ;) |
| 13:54.48 | glass | hehe |
| 13:54.52 | glass | i hear it's pretty nice |
| 13:54.56 | Macer | as a matter of fact i just got it to do the automounted home dir |
| 13:55.06 | Macer | because i kind of screwed up on my dir structure in my ignorance when i installed |
| 13:55.10 | glass | Macer: out of the blue, would you know if theres a povray port to opensolaris? |
| 13:55.16 | Macer | and had the home dir on an 80G rpool instead of an 8TB raid :) |
| 13:55.17 | Macer | OOPS |
| 13:55.33 | Macer | i don't know what povray is ;) |
| 13:55.35 | Macer | haha |
| 13:55.45 | Macer | right now i was going to set up kerberos and nis |
| 13:55.50 | Macer | just to be old school |
| 13:55.59 | Macer | and because i dont' feel lke taking the time to rip my hair out using ldap |
| 13:56.18 | glass | Macer: it's a raytracing program..(theres a free modeller for it too).. i use it to do stuff like this http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3452/3735013696_1a0dd53ed1.jpg?v=0 |
| 13:56.19 | murrayc | Has anyone heard of this Zoom thing? It looks very beagleboard-esque: http://www.logicpd.com/products/development-kits/texas-instruments-zoom%25E2%2584%25A2-omap34x-ii-mdp |
| 13:57.51 | RST38h | moo glass |
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| 13:58.21 | glass | Macer: opensolaris would be perfect os for the renderbox for toying around.. |
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| 13:59.00 | Stskeeps | murrayc: think it's a typical development board from TI, https://omapzoom.org/gf/project/omapzoom/wiki/?pagename=WhatIsZoom2 - i think it's rather pricey :) |
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| 13:59.44 | murrayc | Stskeeps: The price is similar to a BeagleBoard plus a touchscreen plus the other bits and pieces you need. |
| 13:59.46 | Stskeeps | but for the stuff you get along I guess it's rather cheap |
| 13:59.48 | Stskeeps | yeah |
| 14:00.34 | murrayc | We might try to get one if DigiKey can't deliver our BeagleBoards. Though I fear being the only people using it. I'd rather have the same problems as other people. |
| 14:00.46 | murrayc | And DigiKey seem to be the sellers of the Zoom. |
| 14:00.50 | glass | "Currently SW support for following features are not available on the public git trees due to licensing restrictions:" |
| 14:00.58 | glass | and then all the fun stuff |
| 14:01.32 | murrayc | Oh, at least you can put your choice of WLAN USB stick in the beagleboard. |
| 14:01.53 | murrayc | And "graphics" seems like a big deal. But it must be the same graphics as on the BeagleBoard. |
| 14:01.57 | murrayc | Right? |
| 14:02.28 | murrayc | I don't get how video playback is available but graphics isn't. |
| 14:02.38 | glass | "video playback" |
| 14:02.42 | glass | is just frames after frames |
| 14:02.50 | glass | if you can draw to the screen you can do that at some quality |
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| 14:03.51 | Macer | hm |
| 14:03.58 | Macer | damn zimbra server jabberd seems lagged to shit |
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| 15:14.31 | KucukMubasir | what do you think about the Qt port of Maemo, good or batd? |
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| 15:15.42 | blen2r | hi |
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| 15:17.16 | blen2r | how would you rate mer's speed vs. neovento (I currently have Neovento on my freerunner but it's quite slow) |
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| 15:20.30 | Jaffa | blen2r: You might be better asking in #mer; not many people here have freerunners |
| 15:22.46 | blen2r | oh ok, thank you |
| 15:22.59 | blen2r | have a nice day |
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| 15:27.17 | GAN800 | murrayc, Beagle is probably a better option. Most of the people with Zooms are working for big cellular companies. |
| 15:27.33 | Luke-Jr | KucukMubasir: depends; GTK and Maemo have always sucked so far; Qt is generally good |
| 15:27.40 | Luke-Jr | KucukMubasir: so Maeco+Qt = â? |
| 15:27.44 | Luke-Jr | Maemo* |
| 15:28.03 | murrayc | GAN800: Yeah. Hopefully the deliver delays will be fixed, though DigiKey refuse to say when that might be. |
| 15:28.05 | GAN800 | Woo, subjective absolutisms. |
| 15:30.13 | KucukMubasir | thanks Luke-Jr: what is the right side of it is illigible :) |
| 15:30.31 | Luke-Jr | KucukMubasir: fix your IRC client ;) |
| 15:30.59 | Stskeeps | Luke-Jr: .. why on earth using utf-8 for "??", btw? :P |
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| 15:32.18 | Luke-Jr | Stskeeps: Efficiency ⺠|
| 15:32.59 | GAN800 | Pfft |
| 15:33.02 | GAN800 | Jackassery |
| 15:33.09 | Luke-Jr | GAN800: f u |
| 15:34.57 | Stskeeps | is reminded of http://www.oreillynet.com/conferences/blog/2006/07/oscon_how_open_source_projects.html |
| 15:36.16 | Luke-Jr | Stskeeps: GAN800 started it :þ |
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| 15:37.18 | Stskeeps | Luke-Jr: pfft. |
| 15:40.17 | GAN800 | On that note, has anybody gotten around to writing up a wikipedia entry for Mer? |
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| 15:41.35 | Stskeeps | no, we automatically disqualify ourselves |
| 15:41.36 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 15:42.51 | Luke-Jr | hmm |
| 15:42.55 | Luke-Jr | am I disqualified? |
| 15:43.04 | Luke-Jr | my Mer involvement is limited |
| 15:44.02 | Stskeeps | you're listed as a mer contributor for god knows why, so i would guess so :P |
| 15:44.11 | Stskeeps | also, there's the problem of notability |
| 15:44.14 | qwerty12_N810 | it will be a plug for Gentoo and how Mer sucks because it currently uses GTK+ |
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| 15:45.03 | jeremiah_away | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:45.14 | Luke-Jr | qwerty12_N810: Mer isn't GTK+-specific, is it? :þ |
| 15:45.17 | Luke-Jr | even if the default is |
| 15:45.18 | Stskeeps | ** No messages for jeremiah |
| 15:45.27 | jeremiah_away | heh |
| 15:45.32 | jeremiah_away | Yes there are! |
| 15:45.34 | jeremiah_away | :P |
| 15:45.44 | Stskeeps | jeremiah_away: you holding up alright? |
| 15:46.00 | jeremiah | Doing okay - my face is freaky but otherwise alright. :) |
| 15:46.03 | Stskeeps | is dangerously afraid of forest walks cos of borellia and such :P |
| 15:46.08 | jeremiah | Stskeeps: How is Spain? |
| 15:46.14 | Stskeeps | jeremiah: not there yet |
| 15:46.19 | Stskeeps | going on thursday |
| 15:46.29 | jeremiah | Ah. Fun! |
| 15:46.45 | Stskeeps | Luke-Jr: /connect'd work better.. |
| 15:46.46 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 15:46.48 | Luke-Jr | :þ |
| 15:46.54 | jeremiah | How long will you be there for, the weekend? |
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| 15:47.54 | Stskeeps | jeremiah: 23-31 july |
| 15:48.04 | Stskeeps | we arrive quite late 23th and leave very early 31th |
| 15:48.40 | jeremiah | Stskeeps: Whoah - you'll be there nearly all of debconf |
| 15:48.42 | jeremiah | Cool. |
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| 15:49.04 | jeremiah | See my friend dam for lunch tickets! |
| 15:49.38 | Stskeeps | well not debcamp |
| 15:49.57 | jeremiah | oh yeah, just debconf |
| 15:49.58 | Stskeeps | and i'll present on the 25th |
| 15:50.11 | jeremiah | Cool - you're doing the Mer presentation? |
| 15:50.17 | jeremiah | And will it be video taped? |
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| 15:52.05 | Stskeeps | nop, don't think so |
| 15:52.10 | Stskeeps | except maybe by zenvoid |
| 15:52.15 | Stskeeps | i'll have to ask him :P |
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| 15:52.54 | jeremiah | The debian-perl group is going to have a video feed for a meeting so I would be surprised if your talk didn't have a feed |
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| 15:56.12 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, meh, arguably I'd be disqualified from writing about Maemo. |
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| 15:56.29 | GAN800 | Notability shouldn't be an issue. |
| 15:56.59 | Stskeeps | well, for Mer it would be |
| 15:57.12 | Stskeeps | heck, I had 84% of the RFC1459 market and my project wasn't "notable" |
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| 15:57.39 | Stskeeps | except it's still there, interesting |
| 15:58.19 | GAN800 | If somebody objects, then fine. |
| 15:58.33 | GAN800 | But until then there's little harm in putting up an article. |
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| 16:36.39 | Macer | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/06/opensolaris-200906-released-new-arm-port-announced.ars |
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| 16:50.28 | coldboot | If I `maemo-sdk enter runtime` for arm, with the i386-2007q3 toolchain set, it should run the i386->arm compiler when I run gcc, right? I just want to make sure that this is the case when you're in emulation mode. |
| 16:51.03 | woglinde | ???? |
| 16:51.26 | woglinde | you need want emu mode use arm-toolchain |
| 16:51.33 | woglinde | args |
| 16:51.49 | woglinde | you need arm-toolchain for emu mode |
| 16:52.45 | coldboot | woglinde, what's your primary language? |
| 16:52.53 | coldboot | Just wondering because I can read French... |
| 16:53.19 | woglinde | german |
| 16:53.29 | coldboot | Ah ok, I don't know German. :) |
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| 16:59.09 | coldboot | Should the linker be running in emulation mode? |
| 16:59.22 | woglinde | ???? |
| 16:59.31 | woglinde | its all running automagicly |
| 16:59.36 | woglinde | with qemu |
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| 17:01.14 | pinchartl | hi |
| 17:03.18 | coldboot | woglinde: But it's running extremely slow when I'm on arm, it should be using the cross-compiler, but just seems to be running the arm compiler in emulation mode. |
| 17:03.30 | woglinde | args |
| 17:03.41 | woglinde | right you are doing the pains yourself |
| 17:03.48 | woglinde | and running it on the device |
| 17:03.56 | coldboot | woglinde: No this is in scratchbox 2 |
| 17:05.04 | woglinde | yepp its using qemu |
| 17:06.26 | coldboot | I'm saying it should be using the cross compiler, not the arm compiler in emulation. |
| 17:06.36 | coldboot | It should be using i386->arm instead of arm->arm. |
| 17:06.48 | coldboot | host->target |
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| 17:08.39 | woglinde | coldboot hm never saw that this mode is available |
| 17:09.12 | coldboot | Compiling in arm and i386 should be the same speed, for me it's slow for arm. |
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| 17:14.24 | jeremiah | Hmmmm -> http://www.qi-hardware.com/ |
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| 17:15.13 | Stskeeps | yeah.. :P |
| 17:15.35 | jeremiah | Yeah, that qi think should run Mer |
| 17:15.38 | jeremiah | :P |
| 17:17.36 | Stskeeps | MIPS, ick. |
| 17:17.36 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 17:17.39 | Stskeeps | also, very low ram |
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| 17:21.10 | woglinde | good bye |
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| 17:34.26 | xnt14 | ~uncrash lcuk's computer |
| 17:34.38 | xnt14 | ~fix lcuk's computer |
| 17:34.39 | infobot | ACTION opens the hood of lcuk's computer , looks inside and says "that'll be 500 dollars." |
| 17:34.43 | xnt14 | :P |
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| 17:55.54 | wazd | ok, engadget guys think that mirror reflect light at 90 degrees |
| 17:56.18 | wazd | are they copypasting from Gizmodo or something? |
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| 18:00.43 | nomis | ya |
| 18:00.45 | nomis | eh. |
| 18:01.05 | nomis | wazd: yay, even with some comments "confirming" that... |
| 18:01.15 | nomis | "Get a flashlight, go to mirror. Point it at an angle towards the mirror. The light is reflected off by 90 degrees from the angle of the original light beam." |
| 18:01.18 | nomis | duh :) |
| 18:01.50 | coldboot | Wow. |
| 18:02.28 | mgedmin | physics fail |
| 18:02.55 | coldboot | Did you know that ls always returns 0? Confirmed by doing `ls .; echo $?` |
| 18:03.32 | mgedmin | 'ls nosuch; echo $?' disproves your theory |
| 18:03.48 | coldboot | My sarcastic theory, yes. |
| 18:04.00 | mgedmin | but I suppose it's easier to echo $? than to measure an angle between light beams |
| 18:04.06 | coldboot | heh |
| 18:04.31 | mgedmin | especially ones you can't see without filling up the room with smoke |
| 18:04.34 | coldboot | Where's this article? I'd like to post a comment. |
| 18:05.08 | nomis | coldboot: http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/20/universal-mirrors-more-useful-less-fun-than-carnival-mirrors/ |
| 18:05.09 | mgedmin | they're back to old greek philosopher's way of doing science experiments: "it stands to reason" |
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| 18:14.33 | johnsq | Hi |
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| 18:15.41 | slonopotamus | johnsq, hello |
| 18:16.25 | johnsq | slonopotamus: something new? |
| 18:17.09 | slonopotamus | johnsq, released fb_text2screen and open-wlan-cal. writing libcal replacement. |
| 18:18.58 | johnsq | slonopotamus: nice. |
| 18:22.15 | RST38h | moo all |
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| 18:35.06 | florian | re |
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| 18:40.36 | Stskeeps | wb qwerty12_N810 |
| 18:40.49 | qwerty12_N810 | Thank you |
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| 18:47.08 | Luke-Jr | I just got ReactOS running on my N810! |
| 18:47.26 | coldboot | Oh cool |
| 18:47.46 | Luke-Jr | sweet, WoW is working |
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| 18:49.56 | jaska | and i see a bunch of pigs with wings flapping outside the window |
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| 18:59.37 | slonopotamus | Luke-Jr, how's bme going? :P |
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| 19:33.36 | coldboot | Has anyone got gdb running and breaking functions properly on the device? |
| 19:36.18 | RST38h | Apple Approves iPhone App That Promotes School Shootings hehehe |
| 19:36.58 | qwerty12_N810 | Doom? No, wait... |
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| 19:38.18 | RST38h | more like Zombies Ate My Neighbors, but way way lamer |
| 19:38.39 | Stskeeps | RST38h: did you see the pedophile finder? |
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| 19:39.13 | Stskeeps | RST38h: http://www.beststuff.com/fromthewire/audiovideo-news/new-iphone-app-increases-family-safety-provides-sex-offender-information.html |
| 19:39.55 | Stskeeps | 10 bucks we'll be seeing torches |
| 19:39.56 | RST38h | ! |
| 19:40.08 | RST38h | iTorhces |
| 19:41.13 | RST38h | ...and a new tactic of "paedophiling" where evil hackers (tm) insert your name into the sex offender database |
| 19:41.27 | qwerty12_N810 | Yes, it displays a picture of a torch and it can be yours for $999.99! |
| 19:41.33 | RST38h | that would be a welcome advancement of the "swatting" tactic |
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| 19:54.02 | RST38h | "A Saudi Arabian man married a Filipino woman as a cover for buying her kidney, trying to circumvent the Philippines' strict new rules to fight organ trafficking" |
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| 20:02.34 | coldboot | When I run gdb on the device, and run `symbol-file /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4.5.0`, it says "(no debugging symbols found)"... But I compiled libQtGui with -g, why is gdb not finding debug symbols? |
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| 20:04.09 | johnsq | coldboot: have you tried it on the desktop pcß |
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| 20:04.25 | coldboot | johnsq: I'm using scratchbox 2 and gdb doesn't work in it at all. |
| 20:05.19 | johnsq | coldboot: you can test a local desktop application. |
| 20:05.59 | coldboot | johnsq: What do you mean? |
| 20:06.55 | johnsq | coldboot: I'm not fit with gdb, but to test the command you can debug a qt application on your pc, to look if the commands are correct. |
| 20:07.41 | coldboot | johnsq: What commands? |
| 20:07.54 | johnsq | coldboot: symbol-file fe. |
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| 21:17.23 | coldboot | lbt: Hey lbt, are you there? |
| 21:17.44 | lbt | enjoying a glass of drambuie |
| 21:19.29 | lbt | which is a yes... |
| 21:20.03 | coldboot | I don't see where the hildonCommands are getting received. |
| 21:20.19 | TimRiker | is the source to the video call app available in maemo yet? if not, does anyone have a nokia contact to talk to about it? we're releasing a smartphone with video calling, and it would be nice to let them interoperate. |
| 21:21.25 | coldboot | I've been debugging QApplication::x11ProcessEvent, and keywidget never gets set to anything. |
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| 21:22.17 | lbt | My Qt build environment is in bits at the moment .. very frustrating 'cos I want to get into this |
| 21:22.38 | coldboot | lbt: What happened to it? |
| 21:23.27 | lbt | I merged up to 4.5.2-mer1 |
| 21:25.25 | coldboot | lbt: With git? |
| 21:25.34 | coldboot | What did you have before? |
| 21:25.37 | lbt | yes |
| 21:26.21 | coldboot | You can checkout another branch |
| 21:26.25 | lbt | sec |
| 21:27.03 | lbt | http://gitorious.org/+mer/qt/qt-mer |
| 21:27.14 | lbt | My git runs on Mer |
| 21:27.21 | coldboot | What does Mer replace? |
| 21:27.31 | lbt | heh a lot |
| 21:27.36 | coldboot | What is it? |
| 21:27.53 | lbt | mainly cleans up sbox-ism |
| 21:28.05 | coldboot | lbt: So you don't need to use Scratchbox at all? |
| 21:28.10 | lbt | no |
| 21:28.18 | lbt | pure qemu build |
| 21:28.21 | lbt | pure chroot |
| 21:28.35 | lbt | it's nice but slow |
| 21:29.02 | lbt | I spent the weekend working on a technique to inject 586 binaries into an arm qemu chroot |
| 21:29.10 | lbt | like sbox but transparently |
| 21:29.19 | lbt | and using the same version as the distro |
| 21:30.02 | lbt | some build deps differ |
| 21:30.28 | lbt | I merged the 'append -qt4' patch into git |
| 21:31.18 | lbt | the Mer Qt has fingerscroll (of course) |
| 21:32.20 | ds3 | Mer QT? isthat implying the next NIT-OS will have QT elements in it? |
| 21:32.35 | lbt | ds3 that's old news :) |
| 21:32.55 | lbt | Harmattan will support Qt |
| 21:32.56 | ds3 | old is relative.... some of us are a little bit hehind :( |
| 21:33.05 | lbt | np |
| 21:33.06 | woglinde | the actual nit has qt |
| 21:33.20 | johnsq | say welcome to the slowness |
| 21:33.25 | lbt | my actual nit |
| 21:33.28 | lbt | has Qt |
| 21:33.35 | lbt | says welcome to Gentoo |
| 21:34.00 | lbt | Qt is noticeably quicker than gtk for me |
| 21:34.40 | lbt | I ported a gtk (well gtkmm) app to Qt and was amazed at how much quicker it ran |
| 21:34.48 | woglinde | lbt *g* |
| 21:36.17 | lbt | Who knows debhelper stuff? |
| 21:36.39 | lcuk | some of the debian guys at debconf might |
| 21:36.56 | lbt | hold on ... browser crashing... |
| 21:37.22 | lbt | OK dh_install: libqt4-dbg missing files (usr/lib/libQt3Support.so.*.debug), aborting |
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| 22:00.39 | Proteous | w00t, someone made a touch enabled version a putty for s60v5 and it's really sweet |
| 22:02.39 | Proteous | wipping up and down to sent pageup and pagedown to irssi is sweet |
| 22:03.10 | Proteous | so is proofreading but who has the time? |
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| 23:01.34 | nikosapi | Does it make sense that my n810 isn't playing sound from the external speakers even when the headphone/state file in /sys says "disconnected"? |
| 23:01.48 | nikosapi | and yes, my headphones are unplugged :P |
| 23:04.09 | nomis | nikosapi: maybe your mixer is confused. |
| 23:05.06 | qwerty12_N810 | nikosapi: dbus-send --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.osso_hp_ls_controller /com/nokia/osso_hp_ls_controller com.nokia.osso_hp_ls_controller.loudspeaker.force_loudspeaker_on |
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| 23:06.37 | nikosapi | sweeeeet |
| 23:06.49 | nikosapi | thank you so much qwerty12_N810 |
| 23:07.58 | nikosapi | At first I thought the switch/load-detection in the headphone connector was broken, but it's still detecting the state properly |
| 23:08.19 | nikosapi | so I still don't know what's making it malfunction |
| 23:08.33 | qwerty12_N810 | Think multimediad can get stuck sometimes |
| 23:09.01 | nikosapi | after I reboot it works, but after plugging it headphones it doesn't work anymore |
| 23:09.31 | nikosapi | I don't really mind though, at least I have a work-around now |
| 23:09.34 | coldboot | GOT IT! |
| 23:09.39 | coldboot | I fixed the flickering bug completely. |
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