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| 00:24.44 | lcuk | wazd, the capabilities i can just about manage are layering of transparent pngs, i can colorshift entire layers and render them at defined position and sizes scaled about a principle 800*480 |
| 00:25.20 | lcuk | you have seen examples of the battery, if things are not too technically challenging, we can see if it can be brought to life |
| 00:25.56 | lcuk | you could talk with z4chh because he has a number of local data items hes been investigated to be monitored |
| 00:26.21 | lcuk | i believe this principle could easily be applied to data of any kind (weather..) :) |
| 00:27.04 | nikosapi | Is there a way to force the built-in speakers on through software? |
| 00:27.21 | lcuk | there should be if you have root :) |
| 00:27.28 | nikosapi | It seems the jack on my n810 is broken so it always thinks there are headphones plugged in |
| 00:27.33 | wazd | lcuk: that's cool, but I really don't think that weather needs color shifting :D |
| 00:27.40 | lcuk | ahh maybe not lol |
| 00:27.48 | lcuk | wazd yeah i know |
| 00:28.24 | lcuk | i was just thinking about what you said earlier :) im pleased to be getting these pieces in and working as intended |
| 00:28.43 | lcuk | i look on my screen every day and i see nicer and nicer things |
| 00:29.11 | wazd | lcuk: I've said bout what?) |
| 00:29.28 | lcuk | heh, you said about doing something with the battery |
| 00:29.38 | wazd | lcuk: sorry, it's 4:30 AM in here so my brain is slightly slow :) |
| 00:29.51 | lcuk | mine too :) |
| 00:30.06 | wazd | lcuk: Oj, i didn't want to do anything with it, I just wanted to redraw it properly :) |
| 00:30.36 | lcuk | there was one part of it i couldnt get right at all |
| 00:30.41 | lcuk | and that was the reflection |
| 00:31.06 | lcuk | i dont know how to attack it, and my psp is crap with transparency |
| 00:31.48 | wazd | what exactly reflection? |
| 00:32.09 | wazd | floor? |
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| 00:37.20 | wazd | Whats wrong with it? |
| 00:39.12 | lcuk | there is none in mine, i couldnt get transp sorted |
| 00:39.18 | lcuk | anyway, im bedding |
| 00:39.22 | lcuk | gnite wazd \o |
| 00:39.50 | wazd | lcuk: cya) |
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| 01:13.30 | Macer | http://blog.laptopmag.com/always-innovatings-touch-book-netbook-in-production |
| 01:13.40 | Macer | its not vaporware afterall! |
| 01:13.45 | Macer | haha |
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| 04:49.03 | Macer | heh |
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| 05:57.18 | ttl | thanks |
| 05:58.26 | ttl | why there is no function "gtk_dialog_add_widget"? |
| 05:59.26 | prak | anyone here who is familiar with maemo sdk installation (for n810)? i'm not sure how to fix this error: http://pastebin.com/d58c7f660 |
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| 06:44.00 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 06:52.25 | Jaffa | prak: tried `sudo adduser $USER sbox'? |
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| 06:55.10 | Jaffa | oh yeah |
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| 08:34.31 | Mc2` | Hi |
| 08:35.14 | Mc2` | I just discovered Maemo and it looks pretty cool |
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| 08:35.59 | danielwilms | Mc2`: Welcome ;) |
| 08:36.13 | Mc2` | Hqve you heard of running it on non-Nokia devices ? |
| 08:36.21 | Mc2` | *Have |
| 08:37.26 | caoticM | are there any os updates for the n810 i just bought mine, feel it a little slow (i know n810 is not a power house for todays standars) |
| 08:39.09 | danielwilms | Mc2` fremantle alpha runs on the beagle board ;) |
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| 08:40.28 | Mc2` | danielwilms: mhh, interesting |
| 08:40.35 | Jaffa | Mc2`: Maemo itself can be run on the Beagleboard; but the best option for that is Mer - http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer - which takes the best bits of Maemo and rebuilds them on top of Ubuntu |
| 08:41.11 | Jaffa | Which has then been run on x86, Nokia tablets, OpenMoko freerunner, SmartQ5, PocketLoox 720, ... |
| 08:41.46 | danielwilms | Jaffa: :) |
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| 08:45.14 | andre___ | caoticM, which exact version do you run? |
| 08:45.22 | andre___ | 5.2008.43-7 is the latest release |
| 08:46.42 | Mc2` | Jaffa: so as I understand it, it is actually possible to run most of the Maemo applications on whatever device, provided that this device can run with Linux. Am I correct ? |
| 08:48.22 | rkirti | Mc2`: only in theory :) There are idiosyncrasies with glib, gtk (maemo has its own versions of these) and hildon-desktop, that make it quite a fight to have maemo software running outside SB |
| 08:50.04 | Mc2` | rkirti: i see :) |
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| 08:51.52 | caoticM | andre___: how do I tell ? Linux Nokia-N810-43-7 2.6.21-omap1 #2 Tue Oct 14 11:25:25 EEST 2008 armv6l unknown ? |
| 08:52.35 | Mc2` | and do think it can be suitable for a smartphone (so in short, less cpu ressources, smaller screen, .. than a tablet) ? |
| 08:53.23 | woglinde | mc2 after the next release the gui widget will be qt based |
| 08:53.40 | Jaffa | Mc2`: That's the basic aim of Mer, yes. To provide an open source, Maemo-compatible environment |
| 08:53.51 | andre___ | caoticM, see Control Panel > General > About product |
| 08:55.06 | caoticM | 5.2008.43-7 |
| 08:55.14 | andre__ | caoticM, yeah, that's the latest |
| 08:55.36 | caoticM | i see great |
| 08:55.36 | Mc2` | Ok, thank you verry much for the informations |
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| 08:56.19 | lbt | Mc2`: http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer should help... if you read that and have questions then let me know :) |
| 08:56.57 | lbt | (that way I can update it and make it clearer for others) |
| 08:57.21 | Mc2` | lbt: thanks |
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| 09:00.33 | Mc2` | ohh also, what about GPE ? Is the project still active ? |
| 09:05.01 | Jaffa | Mc2`: It is. Graham Cobb's still doing lots of work on it. |
| 09:05.13 | Jaffa | It remains to be seen if Nokia will ship any PIM apps using the built-in PIM framework in Maemo 5 |
| 09:05.56 | woglinde | jaffa *g* |
| 09:06.29 | caoticM | is imap a good choice for gmail for the n810 mail client, worried about the space 3k+ mails at my account |
| 09:07.09 | caoticM | err: 30k+ |
| 09:12.16 | lbt | caoticM: the new fremantle modest client has changelog comments that suggest incremental header downloads |
| 09:13.39 | caoticM | i just dont know if the headers woul be a considerable space muncher |
| 09:13.48 | Jaffa | caoticM: It works well with me, but then I have a ruthless archive policy (and 2 emails in my inbox atm) |
| 09:14.17 | caoticM | atm ? |
| 09:14.31 | Jaffa | At the Moment |
| 09:15.53 | caoticM | right :p |
| 09:17.53 | caoticM | ruthless can mean thar you dont care for space as well as vicious memory optimization ... mixed messages ... |
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| 09:21.04 | Jaffa | caoticM: I don't delete anything which was sent directly to me; but don't keep it in my gmail inbox either. |
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| 09:21.26 | caoticM | i see |
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| 09:49.27 | timeless_mbp | caoticM: headers won't cost more than 5k per message |
| 09:50.11 | timeless_mbp | so unless modest is incredibly stupid, you shouldn't lose more than 1mb of space i think |
| 09:50.36 | timeless_mbp | or was it 15 |
| 09:50.43 | timeless_mbp | has a hard time keeping units straight |
| 09:51.01 | timeless_mbp | 15... sorry, i lost a unit when i did my math :) |
| 09:51.16 | caoticM | 5k per message for 30000 messages dont sound like a mb to me |
| 09:51.45 | timeless_mbp | 146 mb? |
| 09:51.49 | timeless_mbp | units are hard |
| 09:52.39 | timeless_mbp | it depends how much modest actually stores |
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| 09:56.34 | caoticM | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.50 | caoticM | err: rethink |
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| 09:58.42 | wazd_n800 | heya maemo |
| 09:59.34 | timeless_mbp | caoticM: fwiw... my mailbox @gmail was around 2gb a few years ago |
| 09:59.46 | timeless_mbp | i usually paid around 200mb for just headers |
| 09:59.57 | timeless_mbp | and that was before my mail clients stopped being able to open my inbox |
| 10:00.23 | timeless_mbp | (i receive *lots* of messages, 99.99% of them are relatively tiny) |
| 10:00.42 | timeless_mbp | You are currently using 5043 MB (68%) of your 7346 MB. |
| 10:01.15 | timeless_mbp | Inbox (285768) 1 - 50 of 345886 |
| 10:01.32 | timeless_mbp | those are numbers of conversations (unread, page range, total) |
| 10:01.56 | timeless_mbp | if your inbox gets big enough, imap doesn't work if your imap server is lame |
| 10:04.07 | woglinde | lol |
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| 10:16.52 | caoticM | btw how does the browser knows if you want to scoll or select text with the stylus ? |
| 10:20.53 | timeless_mbp | it makes a bad guess? |
| 10:21.21 | timeless_mbp | typically the browser assumes that you only want to select text if you double or triple click at the beginning and then start dragging |
| 10:21.27 | timeless_mbp | otherwise it usually assumes you want to scroll |
| 10:21.39 | timeless_mbp | for fremantle, it'll do "something else(tm)" |
| 10:22.23 | caoticM | i guess i was a tap short |
| 10:24.09 | caoticM | thanks man |
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| 11:40.23 | Andy80 | hi all |
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| 11:43.29 | javispedro | as usual it is harder to buy the "stable" microb src pkg on nokia's repo than the svn, trunk, unstable one |
| 11:44.18 | timeless_mbp | err buy? |
| 11:44.32 | javispedro | lol build :) |
| 11:44.52 | timeless_mbp | well... |
| 11:44.59 | timeless_mbp | not sure what you mean by stable |
| 11:45.13 | lcuk2 | one time special offer, the price to you has been reduced by 100%, now get microb for an excellent price of $0.00 |
| 11:45.13 | timeless_mbp | but yes, typically "unstable" will include fixes to improve things, including the build process |
| 11:47.17 | javispedro | by stable I mean the one's on diablo latest ssu ( 1.0.4-60.19 ) |
| 11:49.38 | timeless_mbp | ok |
| 11:50.01 | timeless_mbp | anyway... sadly, as usual we're changing the browser-ui in order to give better user experience in the future |
| 11:50.16 | timeless_mbp | which means our changes to microb don't really help people until the next browser-ui is pushed |
| 11:50.22 | timeless_mbp | (don't ask me when that will happen, i really don't know) |
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| 11:51.49 | javispedro | don't worry, I'll eventually get it to build |
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| 11:59.54 | xnt14 | goes to work |
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| 12:22.53 | xnt14 | im back |
| 12:22.59 | woglinde | haha |
| 12:23.03 | xnt14 | lol |
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| 12:41.18 | fiferboy | coldboot: ping? |
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| 13:07.56 | fiferboy | lbt: ping? |
| 13:08.07 | lbt | pong |
| 13:08.17 | fiferboy | How's it going? |
| 13:08.19 | lbt | on phone atm...on hold |
| 13:08.29 | fiferboy | Ok |
| 13:08.29 | lbt | mailed kimitake |
| 13:08.32 | lbt | re bisect |
| 13:08.45 | fiferboy | I'll have to read about bisect, but I saw the mail |
| 13:09.06 | woglinde | hi lbt |
| 13:09.11 | lbt | hi woglinde |
| 13:09.23 | lbt | I need to chase the OBS guys |
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| 13:09.35 | lbt | to get c-compile implemented at native speed |
| 13:09.53 | fiferboy | I wonder if the flicker fix will speed up scrolling too |
| 13:09.55 | lcuk | push for warpspeed |
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| 13:10.29 | woglinde | lbt I am intressed too whats break the performance in later qt |
| 13:10.32 | lbt | fiferboy: it seems to force native... it could have a lot of effects |
| 13:10.49 | lbt | well, bisect is good at zeroing in on that kind of thing |
| 13:11.01 | lbt | sometimes you review the patches and just know |
| 13:11.02 | fiferboy | That's what I am thinking. I haven't heard from coldboot if OSK is still working |
| 13:11.26 | lbt | other times it points at something else and surprises you |
| 13:11.37 | fiferboy | Bisect looks cool, it seems like it would help in this case |
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| 13:13.32 | lbt | phone |
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| 13:22.09 | Macer | well today is day 1 of no smoki |
| 13:22.17 | Macer | smoking.. sure hope this chantix stuff works :) |
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| 13:25.52 | coldboot | fiferboy: It's still compiling from yesterday... |
| 13:26.11 | fiferboy | Hehe, compiling Qt is fun |
| 13:26.16 | coldboot | Yaaaaaaaay |
| 13:26.20 | fiferboy | As long as you have something to do as you wait... |
| 13:26.35 | coldboot | Like go home, play with my computer, eat dinner, go to sleep, and walk back to work... |
| 13:26.37 | Macer | coldboot: are you building it on an n800? |
| 13:26.41 | coldboot | haha no |
| 13:26.47 | Macer | :) |
| 13:26.48 | Macer | that would take a year |
| 13:26.50 | coldboot | I'm building two versions of it at the same time on a Dual Core. |
| 13:26.58 | fiferboy | I usually stop it after it compiles the libqtgui.so |
| 13:27.06 | coldboot | It might be done that by now. |
| 13:27.16 | lcuk | shakes head at the qt build system where changing one tiny grain of sand required recreating the whole island |
| 13:27.19 | fiferboy | It takes so long to link webkit for me (in virtualbox on an old laptop) I have never made it past that |
| 13:27.35 | coldboot | When compiling in scratchbox 2, it won't let me run make in src/gui unless I've already run dpkg-buildpackage -b up to a certain point. It complains it needs GCC 4.2 |
| 13:27.45 | fiferboy | lcuk: Only because he just imported the git repo and needed to build from scratch! |
| 13:28.16 | fiferboy | coldboot: It needs to build qmake and other tools that it uses for its own build, and dependencies, like libqtcore |
| 13:28.49 | coldboot | Do you always have to run dpkg-buildpackage, or can you ./configure and make somehow? |
| 13:28.55 | lcuk | makes a change to the c std lib and watches as everyone in the world needs to rebuild their entire system (non api change..) |
| 13:29.53 | fiferboy | coldboot: After dpkg-buildpackage sets everything up the first time, you can just make changes to the files you want and run make from that directory (or the closest directory up from there with a Makefile) |
| 13:30.09 | Macer | man i would seriously like an n97 or n95 that works with tmob 3G :( |
| 13:30.21 | fiferboy | It will just build the library you want then (although lcuk never seems to read this part of the build process) |
| 13:30.39 | coldboot | fiferboy: How long do you have to run dpkg-buildpackage for? Just until it starts building? |
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| 13:30.58 | fiferboy | I usually run it until it has build libqtgui (if that's the one I am interested in) |
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| 13:31.18 | fiferboy | You can check if it is in qt-maemo/libs and stop it if it is |
| 13:31.27 | coldboot | fiferboy: I'd like to cancel it as soon as possible, and then only build libQtGui |
| 13:31.46 | coldboot | Yay I've got it, I'm gonna throw it on the device and test hildon. |
| 13:31.46 | fiferboy | coldboot: You have to make sure all the tools and dependencies are built, though |
| 13:32.02 | fiferboy | coldboot: Excellent, let us know how it goes |
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| 13:33.09 | coldboot | Will libQtGui.so.4.5.2 work with qt-maemo 4.5.0, do you think? |
| 13:33.17 | fiferboy | Coldboot, no it won't |
| 13:33.33 | fiferboy | It will complain it is not the correct version, you will have to install 4.5.2 from extras-devel |
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| 13:34.44 | coldboot | fiferboy: What's it called in the repo? |
| 13:34.53 | coldboot | I've got extras-devel in my apt sources. |
| 13:34.57 | fiferboy | What is the package called? |
| 13:35.00 | coldboot | Yeah. |
| 13:35.17 | fiferboy | From the terminal run apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade |
| 13:35.27 | fiferboy | Do you see the qt packages listed for upgrade? |
| 13:35.41 | coldboot | When did it change to 4.5.2 ? |
| 13:35.47 | coldboot | Updating... |
| 13:35.54 | fiferboy | Maybe a week ago? |
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| 13:36.10 | coldboot | Will a program linked against 4.5.0 work with 4.5.2? |
| 13:36.13 | fiferboy | June 28th |
| 13:36.17 | fiferboy | coldboot: Yes |
| 13:36.38 | fiferboy | As far as I know. I haven't recompiled my program for 4.5.2 and it works |
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| 13:40.01 | coldboot | Hmm, I need to be able to downgrade to 4.5.0 afterwards, because that's what we're deploying our application on. |
| 13:40.25 | coldboot | I'm wondering if I should setup NFS and make a remote git repository of the nokia. |
| 13:40.32 | fiferboy | If you uninstall the libraries, disable extras-devel and install them again that should work |
| 13:40.37 | coldboot | ah ok |
| 13:40.55 | fiferboy | Are you going to backport your fix into 4.5.0? |
| 13:41.22 | coldboot | I already did, and compiled it. |
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| 13:53.06 | Khertan | Hello ! |
| 13:53.25 | X-Fade | Hi Khertan. |
| 13:53.45 | X-Fade | Khertan: Long time, no see :) |
| 13:53.47 | Khertan | someone know how microb password are encrypted ? i need to recover one stored in the file ~/.mozilla/...password |
| 13:53.52 | Khertan | X-Fade: yep ... right ... |
| 13:53.59 | Khertan | X-Fade: too less time ... |
| 13:54.06 | Khertan | irc lock at work |
| 13:54.20 | Khertan | irc lock by phone isp :) |
| 13:54.20 | timeless_mbp | Khertan: get a firefox(gecko) from the same general version |
| 13:54.28 | timeless_mbp | copy the profile into the firefox profile |
| 13:54.32 | timeless_mbp | and use firefox's ui |
| 13:54.44 | Khertan | timeless_mbp: ah ... yep ... great idea :) |
| 13:54.51 | Khertan | timeless_mbp: thanks ... i ll try ... |
| 13:55.16 | Khertan | The Story : got an trojan on a windows os ... |
| 13:55.37 | Khertan | by security i ve change all my password using a secure system (Maemo ;) ) |
| 13:56.01 | Khertan | but ... it s seems i ve entered at a place two time the same wrong password :) |
| 13:56.28 | Khertan | so what s new ? |
| 13:58.52 | coldboot | Is there a way to manually enable the hildon keyboard? |
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| 14:00.27 | fiferboy | coldboot: You are on a N810? |
| 14:00.35 | coldboot | Yeah |
| 14:00.48 | coldboot | Our application doesn't have any text fields... |
| 14:00.51 | fiferboy | Clicking an input field with the keyboard closed should do it |
| 14:00.55 | fiferboy | Ah. |
| 14:01.02 | coldboot | Got a quick test case for another program? |
| 14:01.22 | coldboot | Is "Notes" a qt app? |
| 14:01.28 | fiferboy | Installing qt-demos does it, but takes up a tonne of room |
| 14:01.53 | coldboot | I can just copy one of the executables. |
| 14:02.01 | fiferboy | That would work |
| 14:02.23 | fiferboy | Shopper has input fields and is in the repos |
| 14:02.37 | fiferboy | qt-maemo-example is a text editor |
| 14:04.00 | coldboot | So with the keyboard hidden, when clicking on those fields on the right, the keyboard should pop up? |
| 14:04.14 | fiferboy | As long as the hardware keyboard is closed, yes |
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| 14:04.43 | fiferboy | No go? |
| 14:04.47 | coldboot | Not working... |
| 14:05.18 | fiferboy | What field are you clicking? |
| 14:05.34 | coldboot | The '+' button, then the text field it asks to make a new thing. |
| 14:05.57 | fiferboy | And you can type there with the hardware keyboard? |
| 14:06.03 | coldboot | Yeah... |
| 14:06.11 | fiferboy | Try clicking with different pressures and with stylus and fingertip... |
| 14:06.14 | coldboot | I'm gonna see if it works with the original libQtGui now. |
| 14:06.19 | coldboot | k |
| 14:06.38 | fiferboy | I don't have my N810 handy to test how best to bring up the HIM |
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| 14:07.43 | coldboot | Yeah you have to use your finger. |
| 14:07.53 | coldboot | Interesting, I didn't think that finger detection code would work. |
| 14:08.07 | fiferboy | Is it working in your recompiled version? |
| 14:08.25 | fiferboy | It is actually supposed to bring up the small keyboard on stylus and large keyboard on finger |
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| 14:09.41 | coldboot | That part definitely doesn't work. ;) |
| 14:10.25 | coldboot | Fuck, it doesn't send the text, and the regular libQtGui does... |
| 14:10.37 | coldboot | So it needs that field... |
| 14:10.40 | coldboot | Shit. |
| 14:11.03 | coldboot | So we have to change the code to not send X11 signals. |
| 14:11.12 | fiferboy | Alright |
| 14:11.17 | coldboot | I don't see in the code where it's used, though... |
| 14:11.38 | fiferboy | It could be in the kernel code somewhere... |
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| 14:17.03 | lcuk | fiferboy, i never read it because all i ever see and read is people waiting hours/days for qt to compile |
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| 14:17.22 | lcuk | i hardly ever hear about people just actually getting on iwth it and making new stuff |
| 14:17.35 | fiferboy | That's because we have time to go on IRC while waiting :) |
| 14:18.01 | lcuk | thats a given heh |
| 14:18.29 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N810: i wonder if it's abuse to make simple maemo-launcher'ing by making the binaries shared |
| 14:18.41 | lcuk | but attrition gets you in the end |
| 14:20.12 | javispedro | luck: the autobuilder log for qt measures a whopping gigabyte |
| 14:20.27 | javispedro | s/luck/lcuk/ |
| 14:20.34 | javispedro | (sorry :P ) |
| 14:20.42 | X-Fade | javispedro: Seriously? |
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| 14:21.17 | fiferboy | That's a big log file! |
| 14:21.48 | X-Fade | Nah, only 18M. |
| 14:21.54 | X-Fade | Well only... |
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| 14:22.24 | fiferboy | Okay, that's (more) reasonable |
| 14:22.27 | javispedro | I assure you, it was way bigger before. maybe some "infinite recompilation" issue :) |
| 14:22.50 | X-Fade | javispedro: Can be. |
| 14:22.58 | qwerty12_N810 | X-Fade: you'll probably to remove the libwebkit-dbg package for the previous version of webkit :) |
| 14:23.02 | qwerty12_N810 | Stskeeps: :) |
| 14:23.07 | javispedro | I specially remember crashing mi 17-tab iceweasel session |
| 14:23.14 | coldboot | This is a proper fraction 8/1 |
| 14:23.40 | coldboot | s/([0-9])\/([0-9])/$2\/$1/ |
| 14:23.50 | coldboot | Hmmm, infobot isn't that sophisticated... |
| 14:23.52 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N810: because that's what maemo-launchering basically is.. make the code position independent and then make it a shared object that's also executable |
| 14:24.08 | X-Fade | qwerty12_N810: Jeremiah was working on some automatic cleaning script. I hope he deploys that soon. |
| 14:24.08 | Stskeeps | it will fit nicely in ram and will have the benefit of shared COW pages :P |
| 14:24.20 | coldboot | fo1 |
| 14:24.28 | coldboot | s/fo[0-9]/foo |
| 14:24.35 | fiferboy | coldboot: Sometimes infobot doesn't to the replacement |
| 14:24.35 | coldboot | boo |
| 14:24.39 | fiferboy | s/to/do |
| 14:24.41 | coldboot | s/boo/goo/ |
| 14:24.50 | coldboot | I guess it only reads literal strings |
| 14:24.51 | fiferboy | s/to/do/ |
| 14:24.59 | coldboot | (regex) |
| 14:25.02 | coldboot | s/(regex)/boo |
| 14:25.15 | fiferboy | Need the trailing slash |
| 14:25.24 | coldboot | (foo) |
| 14:25.31 | coldboot | s/(foo)/monkey/ |
| 14:25.37 | coldboot | f03 |
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| 14:25.48 | coldboot | s/f0[0-9]/wubb/ |
| 14:25.54 | coldboot | Only does literal strings then. |
| 14:25.59 | fiferboy | Trying to test regex? |
| 14:26.16 | coldboot | Just seeing if infobot can do regex replace. |
| 14:26.29 | coldboot | Hopefully I don't need to test such simple regexes. :) |
| 14:26.32 | javispedro | s/.*/nothing |
| 14:26.39 | javispedro | s/.*/nothing/ |
| 14:26.57 | fiferboy | If you haven't used regex in years you might (I might) |
| 14:27.14 | coldboot | You should use them all the time. |
| 14:27.44 | fiferboy | I use them maybe once every couple of years |
| 14:28.28 | lbt | regexps are a breath of fresh air |
| 14:28.49 | lbt | waves |
| 14:29.05 | lbt | are there issues on the virt keyb? |
| 14:29.19 | lbt | Antonio mentions it's been disabled in Fremantle |
| 14:29.22 | fiferboy | It doesn't send characters to the field without the line coldboot took out |
| 14:29.45 | lbt | hmm |
| 14:30.00 | coldboot | Why has the keyboard been disabled in Freemantle? |
| 14:30.07 | fiferboy | I would think the next step would be to try to send the window winId rather than the widget winId |
| 14:30.35 | lbt | coldboot: fremantle only runs on HW with a keyb... |
| 14:30.43 | lbt | we need some functional defines... |
| 14:30.57 | lbt | like HILDON_SUPPORT_HIM |
| 14:31.08 | Stskeeps | there's a thumb keyboard in fremantle though |
| 14:31.15 | lbt | fiferboy: yes |
| 14:31.22 | coldboot | fiferboy: Well it already sends a window id in another field. |
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| 14:31.39 | lbt | Stskeeps: it could be that the keyb isn't activated by default |
| 14:31.39 | coldboot | If we sent the window id in both fields, maybe that will work, assuming the signal will propagate down to the widget. |
| 14:31.54 | Stskeeps | lbt: like on n810 |
| 14:32.00 | fiferboy | Qt SHOULD handle the propogation, I think |
| 14:32.15 | lbt | it may be worth sending signals to an Qt rootwin |
| 14:32.29 | fiferboy | Hildon file dialogs in Qt should be an improvement |
| 14:34.42 | javispedro | 500 lines patch hunk... god, why?? |
| 14:38.38 | fiferboy | lbt: git bisect start would let kimitake focus on changes of part of the tree, right? |
| 14:39.08 | lbt | yes |
| 14:39.31 | lbt | git bisect doesn't deal in directories |
| 14:40.01 | lbt | it just bisects the changelog using an algorithm that understands the complexities of merges and the like |
| 14:40.08 | fiferboy | Ah |
| 14:40.36 | lbt | it's trivial on core Qt - that is a linear changelog |
| 14:40.47 | lbt | but if you look at something like qt-maemo... |
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| 14:41.52 | lbt | plus, as I said, it is to dim to ignore a change in, say, webkit on the grounds that "it couldn't possibly matter" ;) |
| 14:42.15 | fiferboy | True |
| 14:42.38 | fiferboy | I wonder what the number of revisions between the current version and the last good version are, though |
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| 14:43.31 | lbt | doesn't matter what's the log2 of that # |
| 14:43.37 | lbt | (I think it's log2) |
| 14:45.24 | lbt | anyhow if there are 8192 individual commits then you only need ~12 bisects often less |
| 14:45.49 | fiferboy | That's pretty good |
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| 14:54.42 | Khertan | someone have an idea on how to retrieve user password on maemo ... without knowing the root one ? |
| 14:55.37 | Khertan | i mean the simple way ... as i see the other one ... doing a .deb ... which will be run by installer as root :) |
| 14:55.44 | Khertan | then use root to change pass |
| 14:56.45 | Stskeeps | install rootsh0? |
| 14:56.47 | Stskeeps | -0 |
| 14:58.00 | Khertan | not in the catalog right ? |
| 14:59.46 | Khertan | (next time i ll carrefully look in which keyboard mode the keyboard is set before changing password) |
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| 15:01.41 | xnt14 | turns up his music |
| 15:01.56 | lcuk | bangs on the wall |
| 15:02.08 | xnt14 | musicbot: mizuki nana, ultimate diamond shin ai |
| 15:02.29 | lcuk | drills a hole in the wall, and farts through it |
| 15:02.35 | lcuk | + /me |
| 15:03.13 | xnt14 | wtf |
| 15:03.14 | xnt14 | lol |
| 15:04.01 | xnt14 | hooks up his surround sound system + massive speakers + insanely powerful amp, then he blows out lcuks ears.. xD |
| 15:04.53 | xnt14 | musicbot: mizuki nana ultimate diamond Etsuraku Camellia |
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| 15:05.40 | xnt14 | sits down and thinks on how to code a ssh montitor daemon for his nslu2 |
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| 15:09.08 | javispedro | shits itself |
| 15:09.22 | javispedro | microb just started building! |
| 15:09.56 | javispedro | crosses fingers |
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| 15:13.07 | coldboot | Setting HildonIMKeyEventMessage::input_window to QWidget::window()::winId() doesn't work, same problem as before. Hildon keys are not forwarded. |
| 15:13.53 | fiferboy | coldboot: Hmmm, translating the X11 signals, then? |
| 15:14.10 | coldboot | Yep, seems like the only way now. |
| 15:14.58 | fiferboy | Can you tell where the best place to implement that is? |
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| 15:26.55 | coldboot | I'm looking into it now. There's QHildonInputContext::sendHildonCommand() that calls XSendEvent, and QHildonInputContext::x11FilterEvent() that receives it, and sends the appropriate Qt keypress or other event. |
| 15:27.29 | coldboot | I'm wondering if anything has to really be "sent" at all, since it's all within the same object. |
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| 15:28.02 | coldboot | I could just change x11FilterEvent and make a call to it with the information. |
| 15:28.16 | fiferboy | coldboot: I think the send is for popping up the keyboard... |
| 15:28.37 | fiferboy | Changing the filterEvent would likely work |
| 15:31.15 | coldboot | I think I know where msg->input_window is used, you can't find it literally in the code, but x11ClientMessage() calls x11FilterEvent(), and both are passed a widget. |
| 15:31.22 | coldboot | So the widget is determined higher up the stack. |
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| 15:39.06 | xnt14 | installs sonata on his xps |
| 15:39.09 | xnt14 | then |
| 15:39.20 | xnt14 | mpd on nit + sonata on xps xD |
| 15:39.22 | xnt14 | errr |
| 15:39.30 | xnt14 | mpd on nit + sonata on xps + sonata on nit xDDD |
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| 16:26.23 | RST38h | Moo all |
| 16:27.49 | Stskeeps | moo RST38h |
| 16:28.17 | Stskeeps | RST38h: is there an advantage to ARM/EABI when it comes to position independent code? on x86 it has a bit of a slowdown as I remember? |
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| 16:29.16 | derf | The main problem on x86 is that it chews up yet another register from a vanishingly small set. |
| 16:29.45 | RST38h | Sts: A moment, let me verify |
| 16:29.59 | RST38h | Sts: In general, most ARM code is position independent by definition |
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| 16:30.50 | RST38h | Ok, here is what GCC manual says: |
| 16:31.39 | RST38h | When you enable pic, GCC will use a register to keep pic base, that will usually be r10 (release) or r9 (debug) |
| 16:32.21 | Stskeeps | *nod* |
| 16:32.25 | RST38h | There is an option that makes this register read-only, in this case it will not be saved/restored by function calls |
| 16:32.52 | Stskeeps | i'm pondering the whole maemo-launcher thing :) |
| 16:32.59 | Stskeeps | and why it's actually not that bad an idea |
| 16:33.08 | RST38h | If I understand things correctly, if you do not enable read-only pic-base, the compiler will use it the same as all the other registers UNLESS the function needs pic addressing |
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| 16:38.43 | coldboot | Well crap, calling QHildonInputContext::x11FilterEvent() directly from QHildonInputContext::sendHildonCommand() instead of sending an X event, prevents the hildon keyboard from even coming up. |
| 16:41.00 | fiferboy | coldboot: How are you doing it? |
| 16:42.56 | coldboot | Like this: http://pastie.org/540206 |
| 16:44.45 | fiferboy | The filter event is applied to the widget by installing an event filter. If you just call the function it will not monitor events |
| 16:44.58 | Luke-Jr | RST38h: from the ARM code I have looked at, it seems to depend very much on the position of its strings/data |
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| 16:47.12 | fiferboy | coldboot: As to why the OSK doesn't even pop up, I'm not sure |
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| 16:49.17 | fiferboy | coldboot: Ah, you have re-logiced when the XSendEvent is executed, it probably isn't getting called now |
| 16:49.52 | RST38h | Luke: Yes, the code itself should be position independent by nature |
| 16:50.01 | RST38h | Luke: Because all the jumps are relative |
| 16:50.17 | RST38h | Stskeeps: I think you will be interested in this: http://gizmodo.com/5310973/peek-creators-have-linux-envy-reach-out-to-hackers |
| 16:50.42 | xnt14 | I just crashed my 787 in flightgear xD |
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| 16:51.28 | GAN800 | Bleh, Flightgear. |
| 16:51.34 | GAN800 | X-Plane FTW. |
| 16:51.50 | GAN800 | xnt14, gotta learn helos. |
| 16:52.05 | ShadowJK | I love the helis in flightgear :) |
| 16:52.08 | ShadowJK | especially the R22 and bo105 |
| 16:52.51 | xnt14 | :) |
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| 16:52.59 | xnt14 | ill try that next ;) |
| 16:53.27 | ShadowJK | does your computer have enough gigahurtz to handle multiplayer? |
| 16:54.06 | Stskeeps | RST38h: oh, yes. |
| 16:54.13 | ShadowJK | (the first 12 or so crashes newbies do with the chopper is quite predictable) :P |
| 16:54.20 | Stskeeps | RST38h: .. arm7 |
| 16:54.26 | xnt14 | pentium D 2.80ghz dual core :P |
| 16:54.37 | GAN800 | Hughes 500D. |
| 16:54.47 | Stskeeps | RST38h: bit out of our league |
| 16:54.48 | ShadowJK | xnt14, a bit weak then, believe it or not ;) |
| 16:54.56 | xnt14 | ;) |
| 16:55.05 | Stskeeps | RST38h: but yes, i would love to hack something like that :P |
| 16:55.13 | xnt14 | well maybe if I stop running compiz at the same time...... |
| 16:55.14 | GAN800 | I need to start doing flyins again |
| 16:55.21 | RST38h | Sts: well, MMU-less Linux exists |
| 16:55.28 | GAN800 | Formation with two dozen people is a blast. |
| 16:55.32 | ShadowJK | I tried the chopper in ms fsim (i think) once.. but it was so dumbed down.. like, I could let go of the joystick and the chopper didn't instantly crash. hmph |
| 16:55.36 | xnt14 | I want to fly a f16 next :P |
| 16:55.37 | Stskeeps | RST38h: sure, but when we're on the good side of 64mb and MMU is a needed thing for Maemo.. |
| 16:55.53 | RST38h | ShadowJK: Do you get to fly a UFO? |
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| 16:55.58 | ShadowJK | xnt14, in flightgear CVS version they added a key on the F16 to disable fly-by-wire :-) |
| 16:56.01 | ShadowJK | RST38h, I haven't tried it |
| 16:56.02 | GAN800 | Fighters are surprisingly boring. |
| 16:56.03 | ShadowJK | it sounds kinda boring |
| 16:56.09 | xnt14 | :) |
| 16:56.10 | xnt14 | brb |
| 16:56.16 | Luke-Jr | RST38h: not all the jumps |
| 16:56.23 | GAN800 | Unless you're floating a Su-37 with afterburners. ;) |
| 16:56.53 | RST38h | Luke: Well, I guess you can find a situation that requires an absolute address, but it is way less frequent than in x86 |
| 16:57.00 | Luke-Jr | ok ⺠|
| 16:57.02 | Luke-Jr | I don't know x86 |
| 16:57.04 | ShadowJK | GAN800, the f14 in flightgear is fun. It has radar to play with, and the wings fall off if you pull too many Gs. It makes it fun to chase other people in tomcats in multiplayer :-) |
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| 16:57.18 | Luke-Jr | RST38h: it does make diffing asm code a pain though |
| 16:57.27 | RST38h | Hehe |
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| 16:57.37 | locutus | ShadowJK: hmhm, last time i tried flightgear it was dog slow :-( |
| 16:57.40 | GAN800 | Warbirds III was the best. |
| 16:57.43 | Luke-Jr | RST38h: I tried diffing the two BMEs... ugh |
| 16:57.54 | RST38h | Diff intelligently |
| 16:58.01 | Stskeeps | RST38h: ok, ARM7TDMI is actually ARM v4t |
| 16:58.04 | Luke-Jr | 'diff' isn't extensible |
| 16:58.05 | wazd_n800 | reheya all =) |
| 16:58.06 | RST38h | has got a few PERL scripts for diffing assemler and execution logs |
| 16:58.14 | RST38h | hey wazd |
| 16:58.20 | Luke-Jr | RST38h: is there a Perl module for diffing? |
| 16:58.26 | RST38h | Sts: Ah almost like GBA :) |
| 16:58.34 | RST38h | Luke: No. Should there be? |
| 16:58.39 | RST38h | writes his own code |
| 16:58.46 | locutus | GAN800: does Flightgear actually model the thrust vectoring? |
| 16:58.46 | ShadowJK | locutus, my Sempron3100+Geforce7600GT was 30ish fps in multiplayer |
| 16:58.54 | ShadowJK | locutus, yes |
| 16:58.54 | Luke-Jr | RST38h: I don't want to figure out the diff algorithm myself :/ |
| 16:58.55 | Stskeeps | ah, armv4t without mmu |
| 16:58.56 | Stskeeps | lovely |
| 16:59.10 | RST38h | Sts: But it has got thumb :O) |
| 16:59.20 | Luke-Jr | RST38h: it would be easier if I could just define a sub that returns whether two lines are "intelligently" equal or not |
| 16:59.31 | ShadowJK | locutus, this has unfortunate side effects in the SU37 when afterburners come on and your manouver is suddenly amplified 2X :) |
| 16:59.36 | RST38h | Luke: You want regular expression matching |
| 16:59.43 | RST38h | Luke: google for perlre |
| 16:59.48 | Luke-Jr | RST38h: ⦠I know perlre |
| 16:59.52 | Luke-Jr | that doesn't help with the diff itself |
| 16:59.54 | RST38h | good |
| 17:00.19 | Stskeeps | really needs to find that contact within Marvell that does mp4 player reference OS based on Diablo |
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| 17:00.49 | ShadowJK | This is the most unflyable plane in flightgear that I've found. I am betting the real life version was nearly unflyable too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_XFY |
| 17:00.51 | GAN800 | locutus, I fly X-Plane. |
| 17:01.19 | ShadowJK | does a barrell roll in the chopper |
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| 17:05.16 | coldboot | fiferboy: I did that intentionally, I didn't want XSendEvent to get called in most cases. |
| 17:05.33 | coldboot | fiferboy: But that's probably interrupting the "show hildon keyboard" event... |
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| 17:05.50 | fiferboy | Yes, you are only calling it on the hide keyboard event, not the show keyboard event... |
| 17:05.56 | coldboot | fiferboy: I'm trying to find a way to get the event to happen, while not using a winId() |
| 17:06.22 | coldboot | Does HILDON_IM_SHOW need a widget? |
| 17:06.56 | fiferboy | It is just a different number in the enumeration for HildonImCommands |
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| 17:07.27 | fiferboy | You could try if (cmd == HILDON_IM_HIDE || cmd == HILDON_IM_SHOW ) |
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| 17:08.52 | coldboot | fiferboy: Yeah I was just thinking about that. |
| 17:09.18 | coldboot | fiferboy: But surely there will be other commands that will not work, that are not widget-specific, similar to hide and show. |
| 17:10.11 | xnt14 | im back |
| 17:10.18 | xnt14 | x-plane? |
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| 17:10.24 | xnt14 | nice |
| 17:10.26 | johnsq | Hi |
| 17:10.31 | xnt14 | i fly xplane on my ipod |
| 17:10.35 | fiferboy | coldboot: Hmm, yes |
| 17:10.44 | xnt14 | wants a xplane port to the nits (n900) |
| 17:10.55 | xnt14 | johnsq, hi |
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| 17:16.02 | xnt14 | argh! I still can't figure out how to fly this heli xD |
| 17:16.10 | xnt14 | ill just fly a f16 now |
| 17:16.58 | ShadowJK | yeah you need to read the flightgear wiki page on helicopter flight :) |
| 17:17.04 | xnt14 | :) |
| 17:17.10 | xnt14 | wait :) ftp://ftp.de.flightgear.org/pub/fgfs/Aircraft/Concorde_2.5.zip |
| 17:17.17 | xnt14 | the plane looks cool xDDDD |
| 17:17.20 | xnt14 | installs it |
| 17:17.26 | ShadowJK | even then it takes a day of intensive training before you'll be able to land(crash) the chopper with enough precision to hit the runway :P |
| 17:17.33 | RST38h | Does Flightgear have nazi experimental planes? |
| 17:17.58 | ShadowJK | ive seen volksjaeger |
| 17:22.19 | RST38h | ShadowJK: http://www.luft46.com/ |
| 17:23.05 | RST38h | ShadowJK: dark germanic genius at its best (although I can't help but think that hallucionogenic mushrooms also were involved) |
| 17:23.11 | ShadowJK | the youtube video of the lippisch coaldust powered ramjet interceptor is damn awesome |
| 17:23.16 | ShadowJK | have you seen it? |
| 17:23.22 | RST38h | googling |
| 17:23.54 | RST38h | heh |
| 17:23.57 | ShadowJK | this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvtxjSrImHw |
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| 17:25.38 | RST38h | ShadowJK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCw0s0BJKY&NR=1 !!! |
| 17:26.25 | RST38h | ShadowJK: The direct cycle nuclear jet engine =) |
| 17:26.36 | ShadowJK | the soviets actually had a bomber with nuclear reactor and electricly powered engines :-) |
| 17:26.59 | RST38h | Yes, I know. It is kinda legendary among Russian plane fans |
| 17:26.59 | ShadowJK | Downside was the life expectency of the crew.. not that great |
| 17:27.10 | RST38h | That and the flying tank |
| 17:27.20 | thunderfest | is there anywhere I can get the source of liqbase and liqbase-playground? |
| 17:28.09 | lbt | sadly lcuk can't type "git push" .... |
| 17:28.25 | lbt | offer him a sausage wrapped in bacon |
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| 17:28.38 | johnsq | first he must typt git commit |
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| 17:28.47 | lbt | he has issues with commitment |
| 17:28.55 | RST38h | no shit... |
| 17:28.58 | Luke-Jr | ⦠|
| 17:28.59 | lbt | C, C++, C ... you know how it is |
| 17:29.43 | thunderfest | so your telling me he doesn't share his code at all |
| 17:29.50 | RST38h | He does |
| 17:30.00 | RST38h | You have to catch him here and ask him for the code, that's all |
| 17:30.11 | thunderfest | oh ok |
| 17:30.15 | lbt | yeah, I thought addressing him would catch his eye |
| 17:30.45 | lbt | try on #liqbase too |
| 17:31.00 | thunderfest | oh ok |
| 17:31.07 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N810: did you have a clue what the powerlaunch issue was btw? |
| 17:31.23 | qwerty12_N810 | Which one? :D |
| 17:31.52 | Stskeeps | not starting for instance |
| 17:32.24 | qwerty12_N810 | It started when I last left it, I can assure you that |
| 17:32.34 | Stskeeps | k |
| 17:32.37 | Stskeeps | yeah, it does it off and on |
| 17:33.04 | qwerty12_N810 | Should probably be moved to start-hildon.d |
| 17:33.12 | Stskeeps | *nod* |
| 17:34.09 | Stskeeps | how's the college preperation coming along? |
| 17:34.10 | coldboot | fiferboy: Hmm, having `|| cmd == HILDON_IM_SHOW` in there doesn't work either. |
| 17:34.41 | qwerty12_N810 | Stskeeps: Hopefully OK, I have to get my photo taken for their ID card soon :P |
| 17:34.54 | fiferboy | coldboot: When does sendHildonCommand get called? |
| 17:35.19 | thunderfest | I miss college it was a great time |
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| 17:38.26 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N810: hehe, neat |
| 17:40.15 | coldboot | fiferboy: I can't find where it's called with a generic command, only specific commands. |
| 17:42.01 | RST38h | tiredly curses SigmaTel |
| 17:43.14 | coldboot | Where does output from qDebug() go? |
| 17:43.22 | fiferboy | coldboot: It looks like it is never called with HILDON_IM_SHOW |
| 17:43.29 | Luke-Jr | RST38h: so what algorithm do you use to detect if something is an add,remove, or change? |
| 17:43.36 | fiferboy | coldboot: If you run the application from the terminal it is displayed as standard output |
| 17:43.49 | coldboot | fiferboy: Yeah there is HILDON_IM_SETNSHOW |
| 17:44.00 | coldboot | fiferboy: This is when you use the debug library? |
| 17:44.06 | lcuk | lbt i bloody well do type git push every single night |
| 17:44.21 | fiferboy | It should print it even without the debug library |
| 17:44.44 | lcuk | lbt, and its publically available too! |
| 17:44.49 | coldboot | fiferboy: But this specific qDebug() is in an #ifdef HIM_DEBUG macro. |
| 17:45.12 | coldboot | lcuk: To backup? Does it push everything on your local repo? |
| 17:45.14 | RST38h | Luke: I operate in terms of instructions executed |
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| 17:45.28 | fiferboy | coldboot: In Qt code? You probably need that flag enabled |
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| 17:45.39 | RST38h | Luke: Accumulating all values printed for each executed instruction in a hash and then comparing hashes |
| 17:45.39 | lcuk | no coldboot, it goes to my account |
| 17:45.53 | lcuk | i changed from crappy private hosting when i made the package |
| 17:46.17 | lcuk | thunderfest hi |
| 17:46.21 | Luke-Jr | RST38h: uhâ |
| 17:46.55 | Luke-Jr | RST38h: so you only compare the output? |
| 17:46.59 | fiferboy | coldboot: try using || cmd == HILDON_IM_SETNSHOW then |
| 17:47.19 | coldboot | fiferboy: Yeah, trying that. |
| 17:47.30 | lcuk | lbt, one other thing, maemo extras-devel includes full source when packages are uploaded ;) |
| 17:48.40 | fiferboy | coldboot: line 686, does it look like the second half should be commented out like line 644? |
| 17:48.46 | fiferboy | Probably doesn't mean anything, but... |
| 17:49.13 | RST38h | Luke: I parse and compare output |
| 17:49.18 | coldboot | fiferboy: You mean the `break;`? |
| 17:49.39 | RST38h | Luke: this includes disassembly, register states, stack state, and any memory accesses printed as messages |
| 17:49.46 | coldboot | fiferboy: That will break out of the case statement, when it's already at the end. It's a noop. |
| 17:49.48 | fiferboy | coldboot: No, the line before that in the code I am looking at |
| 17:49.55 | coldboot | fiferboy: What file? |
| 17:49.57 | fiferboy | toggleHildonMainIMUi(); showHIMMainUI(); |
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| 17:50.10 | fiferboy | Ah, sorry in qhildoninputcontext_x11.cpp |
| 17:50.18 | fiferboy | Line 644 is toggleHildonMainIMUi(); //showHIMMainUI(); |
| 17:50.26 | fiferboy | Commenting out the second call |
| 17:50.41 | RST38h | Luke: But if you just want a simple diff-like functionality, choose a threshold (let us say 100 lines) and look ahead 100 lines in the second document - if you find a match there, print it |
| 17:51.03 | RST38h | Luke: Otherwise, report that the line from the first document is not present in the second one |
| 17:51.08 | RST38h | And continue matching |
| 17:51.36 | coldboot | fiferboy: Yeah I see that, I'm not sure what it's doing exactly. |
| 17:52.16 | fiferboy | It looks like they meant to use the toggle method to replace the show method, but forgot to take out the call |
| 17:52.28 | fiferboy | Probably not related to our problem, though |
| 17:52.33 | coldboot | Yeah probably not. |
| 17:58.53 | Macer | hm. looks like i'm going to stick wtih this aspireone for a little longer |
| 17:59.13 | Macer | was going to preorder a touchbook but i had a check fire to make sure it wasn't a piece of crap first :) |
| 18:03.41 | javispedro | USE_XIM in MicroB is #undef ? |
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| 18:04.15 | javispedro | why am I asking? it is |
| 18:04.21 | javispedro | but why it is #undef? |
| 18:04.29 | Stskeeps | possibly conflict with HIM? |
| 18:04.36 | ds3 | build your own touchbook |
| 18:04.50 | ds3 | and learn something in the process |
| 18:05.28 | javispedro | still need to learn how him works |
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| 18:05.36 | Stskeeps | tell me when you figure it out :P |
| 18:05.40 | javispedro | s/him/HIM/ |
| 18:05.44 | RST38h | feels like a grumpy old man |
| 18:05.47 | javispedro | (that sounds weird) |
| 18:06.27 | javispedro | either way, i've got stdout free in browserd... time to fill microb with printfs |
| 18:06.54 | Stskeeps | what are you trying to acheieve? |
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| 18:07.15 | RST38h | javispedro: You have got your hands on browserd? |
| 18:07.33 | qwerty12_N810 | RST38h: source has always been in the svn |
| 18:07.37 | RST38h | Can we, ah, can we hope for a few fixes? |
| 18:07.48 | RST38h | qwerty: Yes, I heard so, never checked though |
| 18:08.02 | javispedro | Stskeeps, https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3250 |
| 18:08.27 | javispedro | RST38h: one fix so far, since I'm building 1.0.4-60.20 |
| 18:08.29 | Stskeeps | ah, yes |
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| 18:09.34 | thopiekar | hi |
| 18:11.24 | RST38h | javispedro: GAN had a pet bug tracker about MicroB unnecessarily taking window focus when it starts, three times |
| 18:11.42 | javispedro | very noticeable, yes |
| 18:11.49 | RST38h | javispedro: And I have one about >1 Flash applets hanging the tablet hard |
| 18:11.52 | javispedro | but browser-ui is still closed |
| 18:11.56 | RST38h | Oh |
| 18:12.33 | RST38h | Also there is a curious bug last encountered by pupnik, where MicroB will refuse loading image URLs when image loading turned off |
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| 18:12.54 | RST38h | (that option should really only apply to inline images not to explicitly entered URLs) |
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| 18:13.33 | javispedro | wait. I've just finished building nearly the same version on the tablet and testing it still works, and you're already asking for more bugfixes? :D |
| 18:14.04 | RST38h | is always asking for more bugfixes, good thing that you have not touched Modest yet ;) |
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| 18:15.38 | coldboot | fiferboy: Didn't work either. |
| 18:15.50 | fiferboy | coldboot: Doesn't pop up the keyboard? |
| 18:15.56 | coldboot | fiferboy: Nope. |
| 18:16.04 | coldboot | fiferboy: I've got it checking hide, show and setnshow. |
| 18:16.38 | fiferboy | Try allowing all of them, but print out the code received each time with qDebug() |
| 18:16.49 | fiferboy | See what is sent on a keyboard popup |
| 18:17.12 | coldboot | I need a way to #define HIM_DEBUG |
| 18:17.41 | javispedro | seems today's public enemy #1 is HIM, isn't it? :) |
| 18:17.52 | Stskeeps | it's always #1 bug |
| 18:17.56 | coldboot | Yeah, we're tracking down the flickering bug. |
| 18:18.07 | coldboot | I've fixed the flickering bug, but it's breaking the rest of HIM. |
| 18:18.07 | fiferboy | coldboot: Why do you need to define a debug flag? |
| 18:18.27 | RST38h | Haven't they murdered HIM in Fremantle? |
| 18:18.30 | coldboot | fiferboy: Well it's where the qDebug() call is, and it would be nice to not have to recompile since it takes forever. |
| 18:18.41 | coldboot | RST38h: Did they? |
| 18:18.50 | lcuk | RST38h, :( no more noodle appendage? |
| 18:18.54 | fiferboy | Recompiling just the gui library isn't TOO bad |
| 18:19.20 | javispedro | btw, libxul.so with debug symbols is nearly 100 MiB, and this time I... HAVE.. *PROOF* |
| 18:19.24 | fiferboy | Just do a make in the gui subdirectory and it will build the library |
| 18:19.37 | RST38h | lcuk: Pray to the Tentacled One, he has got all the appendages you will ever need =) |
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| 18:21.05 | Luke-Jr | fail |
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| 18:24.22 | coldboot | fiferboy: I do make in the gui subdir and it takes 15 minutes. |
| 18:25.04 | fiferboy | That's about right, you should be able to test and build almost 3 versions an hour! |
| 18:25.27 | coldboot | yay |
| 18:25.57 | fiferboy | It takes me about a minute and a half to upload the file to my N810 once it is built |
| 18:26.09 | coldboot | qhildoninputcontext_x11.cpp:955: warning: `operator+' is deprecated |
| 18:26.21 | coldboot | So what, "please subtract negative numbers instead"? ;) |
| 18:26.31 | javispedro | lol |
| 18:26.36 | coldboot | Why does it take so long? I can upload in about 20 seconds. |
| 18:26.37 | fiferboy | Hehe, I've seen that message before |
| 18:26.55 | fiferboy | I am on an ad-hoc wireless network between my nit and laptop |
| 18:32.49 | RST38h | heh |
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| 18:33.39 | rmt | Hmmmm... just reading about HTML5's AppCache ... *drool* |
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| 18:33.58 | rmt | Tear needs support for it! |
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| 18:39.10 | coldboot | fiferboy: I pulled out the #ifdef, so it's always calling qDebug(), and nothing is coming up in the terminal... |
| 18:39.27 | fiferboy | What about once the keyboard is up and you hide it? |
| 18:39.33 | coldboot | Oh wait, now it is. |
| 18:39.42 | coldboot | Had to wait for rsync to finish copying the cached version. |
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| 18:44.50 | javispedro | nsCOMPtr<nsIWidget> kungFuDeathGrip = this; |
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| 18:47.20 | mni | hi all |
| 18:47.47 | keesj | hi |
| 18:48.25 | Stskeeps | wazd: pro and cons against having no actual control panel, just things in "Settings" category? |
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| 18:52.51 | mni | i am new to maemo and i want to join the summit |
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| 18:53.17 | mni | what are the procedures? |
| 18:53.41 | fiferboy | coldboot: Any progress? |
| 18:54.04 | X-Fade | mni: Registration isn't open yet. |
| 18:54.14 | mni | ok |
| 18:54.28 | mni | is there any training for novice:) |
| 18:54.31 | X-Fade | mni: But I expect it to open within 2 weeks. |
| 18:54.34 | mni | may be special |
| 18:54.43 | X-Fade | The idea is to have multiple tracks |
| 18:54.51 | mni | ok |
| 18:54.58 | X-Fade | From end-user to hardcore hacker. |
| 18:55.22 | mni | ok |
| 18:55.39 | mni | but i am novice (core novice) |
| 18:56.03 | javispedro | hum... virtual keyboard key presses aren't going throught microb... so I assume javascripts can't catch them |
| 18:56.50 | X-Fade | mni: http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Summit_2009/Schedule |
| 18:57.11 | coldboot | fiferboy: building and eating |
| 18:57.21 | fiferboy | A good combination |
| 18:59.07 | mni | for people like us that wish to come from another country what shaould we do/ |
| 19:00.34 | Stskeeps | plenty of us will come from other countries |
| 19:00.59 | X-Fade | Maybe even most of us? |
| 19:01.05 | Stskeeps | most will pay their own travel and some will be sponsored |
| 19:01.08 | X-Fade | Or close to at least. |
| 19:01.47 | mni | Alright |
| 19:01.48 | Stskeeps | is just glad summit isn't clashing with his wedding or something like that. |
| 19:02.40 | mni | Yes like how gnome and KDE does during their summit |
| 19:04.56 | RST38h | Anyone knows how to tell Ubuntu use a particular charset for displaying non-ascii messages and file names? |
| 19:05.55 | derf | LC_CTYPE? |
| 19:05.56 | coldboot | fiferboy: I've just realized that msg->cmd is set to HILDON_IM_SETCLIENT and HILDON_IM_SETNSHOW when you finger touch a text field, but it's actually msg->type that's set to the key presses... |
| 19:06.07 | erik___ | RST38h: the point is that there is no such thing as non-ascii messages :) |
| 19:06.20 | RST38h | derf: where do I set this thing to make it system wide? |
| 19:06.26 | erik___ | you can not discriminate ASCII from non-ASCII |
| 19:06.29 | derf | On Ubuntu? No idea. |
| 19:06.34 | fiferboy | coldboot: Can you get the keycode from msg->type? |
| 19:06.40 | derf | There's no /etc/env.d? |
| 19:06.41 | RST38h | erik: only where you are. |
| 19:06.41 | erik___ | you rely on the user to tell you, thaht is the current locale, use it |
| 19:06.47 | coldboot | fiferboy: Yeah, you can, but I don't see where it's being set... |
| 19:06.55 | RST38h | derf: Checking |
| 19:07.32 | fiferboy | coldboot: x11FilterEvent has a big switch statement for msg->type... |
| 19:07.48 | fiferboy | And then uses sendKey to send the code to the widget |
| 19:07.48 | coldboot | fiferboy: Yeah that's what I was looking at. |
| 19:07.58 | erik___ | RST38h: so check your locales |
| 19:08.24 | coldboot | fiferboy: But for example, HILDON_IM_CONTEXT_HANDLE_ENTER is only in that switch statement, and it's own definition, in all of src/ |
| 19:09.12 | fiferboy | It is defined in qhildoninputmethodprotocol_p.h |
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| 19:09.56 | coldboot | fiferboy: Yeah, but not referenced in anywhere but those two places... |
| 19:10.56 | Macer | hm |
| 19:11.01 | RST38h | derf: Ok, LC_CTYPE made console work |
| 19:11.09 | RST38h | derf: Still no luck with Nautilus |
| 19:11.10 | fiferboy | coldboot: It doesn't need to be, it just makes it easier to read than type->msg = 0 |
| 19:11.33 | Macer | these pills are making me feel funny. my stomach feels strange and my chest feels strange but i'm not fiending for a cigarette like i normally would |
| 19:11.44 | erik___ | RST38h: isn't nautilus that crappy gnome tool ?" |
| 19:12.06 | javispedro | I'm so definining USE_XIM... try to stop me if you dare |
| 19:12.07 | coldboot | fiferboy: Yes but where is msg->type being set? |
| 19:12.29 | derf | RST38h: LC_CTYPE is the minimal solution. Some apps may look at LC_ALL or LANG. |
| 19:12.55 | derf | (I generally just set LANG) |
| 19:13.04 | RST38h | derf: The moment I set LANG, it will start reporting dates in Russian |
| 19:13.09 | derf | Right. |
| 19:13.20 | fiferboy | coldboot: It is sent by HIM, and retreived in x11FilterEvent by: *msg = (HildonIMComMessage *)&event->xclient.data; |
| 19:13.22 | RST38h | derf: Absolutely positively definitely hate that =) |
| 19:13.50 | derf | Unless you, e.g., build a en_US.isu88595 locale or something. |
| 19:13.50 | RST38h | Hmm, there is a solution for the fstab |
| 19:13.57 | derf | *iso |
| 19:14.02 | RST38h | derf: hairy. |
| 19:14.39 | RST38h | Oh, the miracle, somebody hit the same problem before, according to google |
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| 19:20.18 | konttori__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:20.37 | javispedro | whohoo! |
| 19:20.41 | javispedro | yes! |
| 19:20.47 | Stskeeps | shake for next track? :P |
| 19:20.48 | javispedro | #defining USE_XIM makes it work |
| 19:21.10 | johnsq | konttori__: n810 has an accelerometer ? |
| 19:21.29 | konttori__ | well, you can get it for n810 |
| 19:21.40 | konttori__ | http://wiki.maemo.org/Accelerometers |
| 19:22.20 | konttori__ | So, whatever reason fremantle has it, I implemented it and works nice |
| 19:23.06 | RST38h | derf: hmm, the official answer, according to google, is "no way". |
| 19:23.36 | lcuk2 | konttori_, what are you using it for |
| 19:23.59 | derf | RST38h: Well, now you know. I've heard knowing = 0.5 battle. |
| 19:24.03 | lcuk2 | i was pondering making liqbase slide lists around when you tilt device |
| 19:24.55 | RST38h | derf: sucks. |
| 19:25.19 | derf | I still think you could do it with a custom locale. |
| 19:25.20 | RST38h | can't believe nobody has thought about it so far. Even Windows has got a solution for this. |
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| 19:25.40 | RST38h | derf: Yea, guess so. I am thinking of setting LANG and then LC_TIME |
| 19:26.03 | derf | RST38h: I mean, I still can't get a 24-hour clock on my N810. |
| 19:27.19 | RST38h | Heh |
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| 19:27.57 | coldboot | Is QApplication a singleton? |
| 19:28.06 | lbt | yes |
| 19:28.15 | lbt | well |
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| 19:28.38 | coldboot | You get the instance by calling aApp? |
| 19:28.51 | lbt | qApp is the global variable holding it |
| 19:29.22 | lbt | QApplication->getApp() would be a proper singleton method I think |
| 19:29.32 | lbt | s/->/./ |
| 19:29.44 | lbt | anyhow, yes |
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| 19:33.59 | konttori__ | lcuk2: I'm just reading from the file. |
| 19:34.27 | lcuk2 | yeah, thats the simple part, what are you using it for tho |
| 19:34.50 | konttori__ | for detecting landscape vs. portrait |
| 19:34.53 | konttori__ | http://pastebin.com/m78b1ca27 |
| 19:35.29 | lcuk2 | what do you do when its on its back flat :P |
| 19:35.29 | konttori__ | if x<-600 I set to portrait. If more than -300 i set to landscape. |
| 19:35.37 | konttori__ | landscape |
| 19:36.38 | konttori__ | that keeps it to not to jump all the time between states |
| 19:36.43 | lcuk2 | should account for more than x |
| 19:37.16 | konttori__ | x is all that is needed |
| 19:37.21 | lcuk2 | cos you can be holding it upright or nearly flat but still oriented |
| 19:38.04 | konttori__ | I haven't found bugs on this solution yet |
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| 19:38.46 | konttori__ | the portrait trigger should probably be -650, but that's tuning |
| 19:39.12 | konttori__ | cool. I'll make ukmp release now. |
| 19:39.19 | konttori__ | not yet perfect, but pretty neat. |
| 19:39.26 | konttori__ | try it out in a few mins. |
| 19:39.34 | lbt | is this randr via accel? |
| 19:39.55 | konttori__ | you mean xrandr? |
| 19:39.59 | konttori__ | nope. I rotate myself |
| 19:40.03 | lbt | OK |
| 19:40.06 | lcuk2 | konttori_, its based on just a sideways angle, not actually orientation then |
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| 19:40.40 | konttori__ | well, it's based on the left side edge of the device pointing up |
| 19:40.47 | lcuk2 | and what about when x > 700 ;) |
| 19:41.02 | konttori__ | well, I don't support inverse portrait |
| 19:41.08 | konttori__ | so, it stays landscape |
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| 20:10.21 | VDVsx | konttori_, do you know/can tell me the sample rate of the accelerometer on the test units ? |
| 20:11.29 | konttori__ | hmm... cannot remember it. ehmm.. pretty high? |
| 20:11.42 | VDVsx | 100hz ? |
| 20:11.42 | konttori__ | at least 50 |
| 20:11.50 | konttori__ | could well be 100 |
| 20:11.55 | konttori__ | I really don't remember |
| 20:12.05 | konttori__ | hmm... I think there was some setting for |
| 20:12.06 | VDVsx | konttori_, ok, thanks :) |
| 20:12.07 | konttori__ | it |
| 20:12.13 | konttori__ | so, it's probably dynamic |
| 20:12.38 | konttori__ | enigma works really well with the accelerometer controls |
| 20:12.46 | konttori__ | someone should port neverball to maemo |
| 20:12.51 | konttori__ | would be cool |
| 20:13.27 | VDVsx | konttori_, yeah there's a lot of possible conf's, according to the kernel driver :) |
| 20:13.59 | konttori__ | anyway, the quality is good. data comes fast and seems easy to interpret |
| 20:14.10 | VDVsx | konttori_, neverball is openGl, can't be done right now, I guess |
| 20:14.57 | konttori__ | opengl works just |
| 20:14.58 | konttori__ | fine |
| 20:15.10 | konttori__ | no issues. gets composited as anything else |
| 20:15.23 | konttori__ | and you can also just go completely full screen and stop composition. |
| 20:15.26 | konttori__ | not an issue |
| 20:16.51 | VDVsx | konttori_, last time I tried can't done anything with openGl, because some parts are missing in the SDk (a lot of them), that was the issue :) |
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| 20:22.11 | fiferboy | coldboot: Any progress? |
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| 20:23.21 | coldboot | fiferboy: I've found that when you press a key, it sends code 4. |
| 20:23.25 | VDVsx | wazd, crapy video :), Playing Quake on an 5800 with BlueMaemo : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAZh0BBOfs8 :P |
| 20:23.33 | fiferboy | Always 4? |
| 20:23.44 | coldboot | fiferboy: I'm going to try calling qApp->x11ClientMessage(widget, &ev, false); instead of XSendEvent. |
| 20:23.53 | coldboot | Yeah, I'm sure the extra data has the actual key. |
| 20:24.01 | lbt | have you asked in #qt |
| 20:24.27 | coldboot | lbt: Haven't asked them anything yet. |
| 20:24.37 | lbt | may be worth it |
| 20:24.52 | fiferboy | Do they know about qt there? |
| 20:24.56 | lbt | can be frustrating |
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| 20:25.14 | lbt | there's a lot of noobs and the devs aren't always helpful :( |
| 20:25.16 | konttori__ | VDVsx: afaik, it's not an issue anymore |
| 20:25.22 | slonopotamus | omg |
| 20:25.49 | slonopotamus | you were discussing same topic 14 hours ago |
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| 20:26.04 | konttori__ | nice video of q2 |
| 20:29.24 | mikkov_ | .com/m78b1ca27 |
| 20:31.34 | timeless_mbp | konttori_: know anything about sofia-sip? |
| 20:31.37 | timeless_mbp | like where upstream is? |
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| 20:33.01 | Guest4819_554 | any xauth (or xbase-clients) package for diablo for make ssh -x working? |
| 20:34.29 | johnsq | Guest4819_554: try ssh -Y |
| 20:34.43 | woglinde | xauth is in extras-devel |
| 20:34.45 | slonopotamus | johnsq, !!! |
| 20:34.55 | woglinde | If i remember correctly |
| 20:35.18 | slonopotamus | johnsq, you aren't johnx, right? |
| 20:36.02 | johnsq | slonopotamus: no, johns is my normal nick. |
| 20:36.15 | Guest4819_554 | ssh -Y don't work |
| 20:36.27 | slonopotamus | johnsq, you statically compiled qemu? |
| 20:36.47 | Guest4819_554 | in fact ssh -X command works well on my tablet....but i cant see my tablet on the pc |
| 20:37.22 | johnsq | Guest4819_554: you must enable forward X11 in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 20:37.22 | slonopotamus | Guest4819_554, it's not your day |
| 20:37.43 | Guest4819_554 | its made it |
| 20:37.52 | johnsq | slonopotamus: yes, otherwise you must copy the missing libs in the chroot |
| 20:37.55 | Guest4819_554 | i see on some forum i need a xauth on the tablet too |
| 20:37.58 | slonopotamus | johnsq, how on earth you compiled it? it dies during linking |
| 20:38.03 | Guest4819_554 | but i cant find any package for diablo |
| 20:38.35 | johnsq | slonopotamus: gentoo ~x86 |
| 20:38.55 | johnsq | Guest4819_554: see above extra-devel |
| 20:39.24 | slonopotamus | johnsq, i'm on x86_64 and this damn qemu doesn't link |
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| 20:40.01 | slonopotamus | it misses libc, libm, libsdl and god knows what else |
| 20:40.02 | johnsq | slonopotamus: I have the last days installed x86_64, i can try it |
| 20:40.17 | Guest4819_554 | extra-devl is allready installed and updated on my tablet...apt-get install xauth dont work |
| 20:40.41 | Guest4819_554 | whit sudo...same issue |
| 20:40.57 | woglinde | hm |
| 20:41.30 | woglinde | If I understand right you want the apps from the nokia on your desktop? |
| 20:41.45 | Guest4819_554 | yes |
| 20:41.51 | woglinde | hm |
| 20:42.07 | Guest4819_554 | like ssh -x 192.168.0.101 xterm |
| 20:42.11 | Guest4819_554 | but that work |
| 20:42.16 | Guest4819_554 | on my tablet all open |
| 20:42.27 | Guest4819_554 | but i cant see the tablet on my pc |
| 20:43.24 | woglinde | hm ah xauth is in sdk stuff |
| 20:43.42 | Guest4819_554 | i dont use sdk |
| 20:43.49 | Guest4819_554 | iam not in scratchbox |
| 20:43.54 | woglinde | yes but you want xauth |
| 20:44.08 | Guest4819_554 | yesssssssssssssss |
| 20:44.13 | Guest4819_554 | i think that my issue |
| 20:44.27 | Guest4819_554 | or some source said xbase-client |
| 20:44.29 | woglinde | you need download it manually |
| 20:44.39 | Guest4819_554 | hm |
| 20:44.39 | woglinde | and libxxubla too |
| 20:44.56 | Guest4819_554 | from where for both? |
| 20:45.17 | woglinde | still searching it |
| 20:45.55 | Guest4819_554 | ;) |
| 20:47.43 | woglinde | hm |
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| 20:47.59 | johnsq | slonopotamus: just build qemu without problems |
| 20:49.06 | labaudio | its look like ssh -x command need xauth |
| 20:50.17 | woglinde | hm seems I am wrong and remembered falsly |
| 20:50.24 | woglinde | there seems no xauth |
| 20:51.03 | labaudio | i know |
| 20:51.52 | johnsq | labaudio: you want ssh -X on the device? |
| 20:52.49 | labaudio | yes |
| 20:53.49 | labaudio | i want ssh -x THE device |
| 20:53.52 | labaudio | ;) |
| 20:53.59 | labaudio | on my pc |
| 20:54.09 | labaudio | pc to pc all is good |
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| 20:54.14 | labaudio | but pc to my tablet |
| 20:54.24 | labaudio | i have issue |
| 20:54.27 | johnsq | labaudio: ssh -v and see debug1: Remote: No xauth program; cannot forward with spoofing. |
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| 20:56.56 | johnsq | labaudio: build xauth for nokia. |
| 20:57.07 | labaudio | ssh -v give me that http://pastebin.com/m53be13d6 |
| 20:58.49 | johnsq | funny broken package. |
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| 20:59.46 | johnsq | labaudio: ssh -v -X your_device |
| 21:04.27 | labaudio | http://pastebin.com/m35080dc7 |
| 21:06.18 | johnsq | labaudio: you need xauth... or enable tcp clients on your computer X11 |
| 21:07.01 | labaudio | yes but i cant find xauth |
| 21:07.23 | labaudio | you think tcp client on my pc X11 resolved that |
| 21:07.47 | johnsq | labaudio: get the source and build it or somebody who builds it for you |
| 21:08.24 | labaudio | you read in my mind |
| 21:08.26 | labaudio | lol |
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| 21:09.02 | johnsq | labaudio: yes, than on your pc xhost +your_n8x0 |
| 21:10.37 | labaudio | but i wantt run directly in ssh not in xhost |
| 21:10.58 | labaudio | in fact this xauth is bug jar |
| 21:11.03 | labaudio | damn |
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| 21:20.14 | GeneralAntilles | I can see Modest's formatting and quoting are going to be just as awful as always. |
| 21:20.59 | GeneralAntilles | If we get one goddamn thing from the Fremantle upgrade, can it please be plaintext emails that DON'T DOUBLEWRAP?! |
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| 21:37.23 | lbt | FYI I have a basic 'SDK' for Mer now. |
| 21:37.59 | lbt | ie a simple command that sets up a qemu build env that allows us to build for Mer |
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| 23:15.15 | xnt14 | goes home |
| 23:15.54 | xnt14[work] | ls /etc/san47/config/firewall |
| 23:16.01 | xnt14[work] | err wrong window xD |
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