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| 00:56.48 | ken | Now i want to add a GtkWiget like drawing_area to plugin area,who encountered a similar sitruation? |
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| 01:05.35 | ken | any idea? |
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| 02:10.24 | xnt14 | is back |
| 02:10.41 | xnt14 | well actually I was back a looong time ago, just forgot to update :P |
| 02:13.52 | Luke-Jr | . |
| 02:13.55 | xnt14 | on #maemo? |
| 02:13.57 | xnt14 | -.- |
| 02:13.59 | xnt14 | ... |
| 02:14.11 | xnt14 | ~seen ljrbot |
| 02:14.12 | infobot | ljrbot <n=supybot-@2002:46bb:1a76:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 106d 23h 18m 56s ago, saying: 'luke-jr: The operation succeeded.'. |
| 02:14.32 | Luke-Jr | xnt14: #anime |
| 02:14.41 | xnt14 | doesn't feel like |
| 02:14.46 | xnt14 | playinh |
| 02:14.48 | xnt14 | *ing |
| 02:14.55 | xnt14 | im deep in code right now |
| 02:15.33 | xnt14 | goes back to his CoreJS framework |
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| 02:22.15 | kell | how to add a GtkWidget in plugin area |
| 02:25.15 | Luke-Jr | no. |
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| 02:46.43 | xnt14 | lol |
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| 05:34.47 | stelleg | anyone here do kernel debugging over serial console? |
| 05:37.42 | usicow | I log into my n810 via ssh using root@my_ip.. to use 'root' (the shell which is spawned with rootsh installed) do I need to add the root user to the sudoers? |
| 05:39.53 | usicow | the reason I ask is because even if I use the rootsh command directly, I get permission denied on this script i've got: |
| 05:39.55 | usicow | ./wake.py: Permission denied |
| 05:43.12 | usicow | this is quite confusing.. even though I'm logged in as root, I need to run sudo /usr/bin/gainroot to get.. root.. |
| 05:44.51 | stelleg | you sure you have execute flag enabled on wake.py? |
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| 05:45.21 | usicow | yep,. its set. |
| 05:45.33 | usicow | it'll run only if I run this: python2.5 ./wake.py |
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| 05:47.33 | usicow | I have another test script though..it too wont run, but it is not set as an executable. I'm trying to run chmod +x hello.py, but nothing happens. Do I need to do something special to chmod a file? |
| 06:05.40 | usicow | its strange.. any command I try to sudo, just gets ignored. |
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| 06:14.57 | johnx | morning all :) |
| 06:16.13 | usicow | morning |
| 06:20.31 | usicow | can I make it so that the 'Audio clips' directory that I see when I open up the media player points to a different directory? Like with a symbolic link? |
| 06:21.30 | johnx | I think some people have done that, but for some reason I thought I remembered someone having issues after doing that |
| 06:22.21 | RST38h | I did |
| 06:22.26 | RST38h | it works, mostly |
| 06:22.31 | johnx | m00f RST38h |
| 06:22.37 | RST38h | ehlo johnx |
| 06:25.36 | usicow | is anyone using usbcontrol? |
| 06:26.18 | johnx | I used it in the past |
| 06:26.56 | usicow | when run it, nothing happens.. |
| 06:27.01 | RST38h | Hehe, Palin quits |
| 06:28.58 | johnx | so, if you plug in a usb device after running it, that doesn't work? |
| 06:30.02 | usicow | no.. still doesnt work. |
| 06:30.30 | usicow | I've opened up the file /usr/share/applications/hildon/usbcontrol.desktop |
| 06:30.34 | johnx | could be lots of reasons. what kind of device did you try plugging in? |
| 06:30.44 | usicow | and in there it says the command that it runs is: sudo run-standalone.sh /usr/bin/usbcontrol |
| 06:31.02 | usicow | the strange thing is that for me, if I've got a terminal window open, all sudo commands are just ignored. |
| 06:31.44 | usicow | its a USB stick that I've plugged in to it.. I know it does work, because it has worked in the past. But I resently flashed the n810 and since then it hasnt worked. |
| 06:31.56 | johnx | ah, no real idea then |
| 06:33.10 | RST38h | Doesn't it need power? |
| 06:33.32 | RST38h | In this case, there is an applet in Extras that lets you power up things plugged into usb port |
| 06:33.47 | johnx | usbcontrol is the other way to do it |
| 06:34.21 | johnx | they're all just running echo host > /sys/.../musb/mode or something |
| 06:34.29 | johnx | about 3 out of 4 usb sticks I've tried on the N800 here work fine |
| 06:34.51 | johnx | the oldest crappiest one i have demands more power for no discernible reason |
| 06:34.57 | usicow | ever got an external hdd working? |
| 06:35.05 | johnx | not gonna happen |
| 06:35.29 | usicow | hehe ok |
| 06:35.55 | johnx | needs too much power at spin-up |
| 06:36.09 | RST38h | "Nokia Should Lock Up Ovi Store Developers In A Warehouse" |
| 06:36.38 | usicow | ok, another question.. I asked ealier but got to reply. I've got a file called wake.py. I'd like to make it executable. chmod +x wake.py doesnt do anything though. Any ideas? |
| 06:36.52 | johnx | where is it? |
| 06:37.02 | usicow | on mmc1 |
| 06:37.02 | johnx | on a fat16/32 formatted sd card? |
| 06:37.16 | johnx | fat16/32 doesn't have file permissions |
| 06:37.30 | johnx | and it's mounted "noexec" IIRC |
| 06:37.41 | usicow | oh, true |
| 06:38.42 | johnx | just move it to ~/ |
| 06:38.46 | johnx | it's probably tiny anyways |
| 06:38.55 | usicow | ok |
| 06:39.58 | Luke-Jr | johnx: yes they do |
| 06:40.06 | Luke-Jr | Linux just doesn't support them by default |
| 06:40.23 | johnx | fat file permissions? really? |
| 06:40.48 | johnx | the only two I know about are "read only" and "archive" |
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| 06:41.17 | Luke-Jr | there is also "system" |
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| 06:41.33 | Luke-Jr | which the Linux fat driver will optionally translate to the POSIX "immutable" |
| 06:42.10 | johnx | ok, let me s/ that to "unix-style" file permissions |
| 06:42.39 | Luke-Jr | ⺠|
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| 07:15.36 | usicow | how do I add an entry in the Extra's section of installed applications to run a script to prevent me from having to open a terminal window? |
| 07:17.34 | johnx | I would look at the files installed by say, usbcontrol package |
| 07:17.39 | johnx | dpkg -L usbcontrol |
| 07:18.07 | johnx | and just copy the .desktop file and make it point to your own script |
| 07:19.34 | usicow | yeah I copied the .desktop file, but its not appearing.. maybe theres another config file that needs to be edited.. |
| 07:19.52 | johnx | i think there's a cache you need to regenerate, or just reboot |
| 07:21.06 | usicow | ok |
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| 09:01.59 | oespirit | ~seen vimzard |
| 09:02.01 | infobot | vimzard <n=arunc@203.199.213.3> was last seen on IRC in channel #gsoc, 74d 14h 11m 49s ago, saying: 'sid0: :-P'. |
| 09:02.46 | oespirit | drat |
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| 09:31.11 | aquatix | good morning all |
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| 11:03.59 | man_in_pda | well i FINALLY got this thing connected to a friend's WEP wifi |
| 11:05.17 | man_in_pda | would have been a bit easier with working wardriving scripts :P |
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| 11:19.17 | wazd | heya Maemo |
| 11:21.06 | aquatix | hey wazd |
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| 11:44.41 | RST38h | heya wazd |
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| 13:01.59 | usicow | is it possible for me to make a .desktop file to run a script? I've been trying to work it out but without success. I've got a .desktop file written, but no idea is added to the list of installed applications. |
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| 13:04.26 | cheng_99 | hi, does anyone know is there any network sniffer tools for n810? |
| 13:05.15 | ShadowJK | what do you want to do? |
| 13:05.42 | cheng_99 | do something like tcpdump or wireshark stuffs |
| 13:05.58 | slonopotamus | ShadowJK, to hack pentagon, of course |
| 13:06.15 | ShadowJK | i think tcpdump is in the tools repo |
| 13:06.54 | cheng_99 | humm. i tried apt-cache, but not there |
| 13:07.25 | cheng_99 | is there any other tools instead of tcpdump? |
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| 13:08.10 | ShadowJK | http://repository.maemo.org/ add the SDK repository... but whatver you do, don't do apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade with it, it'll brick your tablet |
| 13:09.06 | ShadowJK | or I guess you could click the browse link and get tcpdump and libpcap0.8 manually :) |
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| 13:12.58 | cheng_99 | great. thanks! |
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| 14:03.09 | b-man16 | hello |
| 14:04.24 | b-man16 | HATES!!! windows vista |
| 14:04.35 | locutus | I COULDNT CARE LESS |
| 14:04.38 | locutus | (: |
| 14:04.42 | b-man16 | lol |
| 14:05.14 | b-man16 | i'm forced to use it untill my tablet gets fixed xP |
| 14:09.36 | b-man16 | ~seen xnt14 |
| 14:09.38 | infobot | xnt14 is currently on #maemo (2d 14h 28m 41s). Has said a total of 35 messages. Is idling for 11h 22m 55s, last said: 'lol'. |
| 14:09.56 | b-man16 | :P |
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| 14:22.39 | X-Fade | Quim Gil is now doing his talk in GCDS. |
| 14:22.47 | ShadowJK | gcds? |
| 14:23.07 | X-Fade | bergie is posting the highlights on the go here: http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/maemo/view/1de68a4dc960c8468a411de941fbbade091992b992b/#1de68a5d9e828b868a511de9da0419e3866cfcdcfcd |
| 14:23.23 | X-Fade | ShadowJK: Gran Canaria Desktop Summit |
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| 14:25.01 | X-Fade | The talk is about Harmattan already :) |
| 14:26.02 | RST38h | :(\ |
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| 14:30.22 | RST38h | XFade: nokia ditching gtk already??? |
| 14:30.37 | mgedmin | wouldn't surprise me |
| 14:30.45 | mgedmin | why else buy trolltech? |
| 14:30.46 | RST38h | hm |
| 14:30.50 | RST38h | still. |
| 14:30.59 | mgedmin | I'll miss gtk |
| 14:31.00 | mgedmin | maybe |
| 14:31.12 | mgedmin | as a user, I prefer gtk because the themes are prettier :) |
| 14:31.19 | mgedmin | nokia will make the themes look the same |
| 14:31.43 | mgedmin | as a programmer, I haven't written a single app for maemo during all those years anyway |
| 14:32.10 | mgedmin | has a pygtk desktop app for uploading e-books into his nokia over sshfs with a single click, and /me should open-source it some day |
| 14:32.13 | guysoft42 | just wrote a patch, that the developer didn't apply |
| 14:32.20 | guysoft42 | .. i wonder where he is.. |
| 14:32.32 | RST38h | anyways, as long as I can still use fb0 I am happ |
| 14:32.41 | RST38h | y |
| 14:33.13 | guysoft42 | does anyone here know of a way to access Cannon cameras with maemo? i saw someone packaged stuff for it.. but its all commandline |
| 14:34.04 | RST38h | btw |
| 14:34.22 | RST38h | this means that everything they develop for fremantle is temporary |
| 14:34.32 | ShadowJK | if you set the camera to usb mass storage mode and connect it, it probably just works |
| 14:34.41 | RST38h | maybe that is why it all looks so crappy |
| 14:35.11 | RST38h | Shadow: unless his camera onlly supports that picture-gate-whatever mode |
| 14:35.59 | ShadowJK | then it sucks :) |
| 14:36.01 | X-Fade | RST38h: I'm sure that GTK will still work in Harmattan. It would require a _big_ rewrite to move everything to qt? |
| 14:36.33 | X-Fade | Well, sure.. you never know. :) |
| 14:39.00 | RST38h | X-Fade: It will. |
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| 14:39.26 | RST38h | X-Fade: Completely different toolkit, uses C++ object model, gtk+ uses GObjects |
| 14:39.41 | RST38h | X-Fade: So, not only the UI but everything else using GObjects will have to go |
| 14:40.37 | RST38h | X-Fade: Also good luck to them trying to make it work on both Symbian and Maemo without changes: the original S60 is designed for one-handed button operation, Maemo UI is horizontal, touch based, no buttons |
| 14:41.13 | X-Fade | RST38h: Well, maybe when that time comes, S60 is all touch too. |
| 14:41.20 | RST38h | X-Fade: Completely different form factors dictate differences in UI. I strongly doubt these guys will be able to reconcile the differences |
| 14:41.35 | RST38h | X-Fade: Yes, that would mean sacrificing S60 UI model for Maemo one |
| 14:42.00 | X-Fade | There are a lot of options, hard to guess which ones they will take ;) |
| 14:42.13 | RST38h | X-Fade: But looking at the latest Fremantle stuff, I can't help but wonder if they are doing the opposite, i.e. changing Maemo UI for S60-like UI |
| 14:42.30 | RST38h | X-Fade: Not a lot, just 2. 3-4 if you are imaginative. |
| 14:42.44 | RST38h | Which they do not seem to be, hence 2. |
| 14:42.57 | X-Fade | RST38h: Grudual moves towards a single point perhaps? |
| 14:44.41 | ShadowJK | aren't the form factors merging? ;-) |
| 14:45.36 | RST38h | X-Fade: my point is that there is no single point, because current form factors are different |
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| 14:46.17 | RST38h | X-Fade: You may try achieving semantic unity (kinda like HTML in FF and HTML in Lynx) but I doubt they will |
| 14:46.18 | X-Fade | RST38h: But new iterations aren't designed on current form factors :) |
| 14:46.21 | ShadowJK | If you flip N810 upside down and draw green and red on the buttons, it looks almost like Tube |
| 14:46.57 | RST38h | X-Fade: Well, if they just go the tablet way (i.e. 5800/N97/etc) then it is more probable that they will ditch S60 |
| 14:47.52 | RST38h | X-Fade: But then, you have to take into account the corporate politics, where S60 guys probably won't go without a fight |
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| 14:48.02 | RST38h | And may end up with Maemo resembling current S60 |
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| 14:56.13 | wazd | the only UI that fits all devices is a console :) |
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| 14:57.01 | X-Fade | wazd: One window with one button should work too :) |
| 14:57.38 | wazd | X-Fade: well, rhen button should have a "make it awesome!" label) |
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| 14:58.08 | X-Fade | wazd: "do what I want you to do" button. |
| 14:59.54 | RST38h | X-Fade: "KILL ALL" will do nicely |
| 15:00.02 | RST38h | It is shorter, too |
| 15:01.07 | Jaffa | Not having both Gtk & Qt officially supported during a transition seems odd. |
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| 15:01.59 | RST38h | Jaffa: We do not even have a real device during transition |
| 15:02.24 | Jaffa | RST38h: Well, we can assume there will exist a device with Fremantle before a device with Harmattan comes out, I think |
| 15:02.25 | RST38h | So, it is already beyond odd into stupid, really |
| 15:02.36 | wazd | I wonder if they'll show some of the harmattan screenshots or something |
| 15:03.31 | wazd | or maybe release Fremantle SDK "real" Beta for god sake |
| 15:04.26 | Jaffa | What's a "real" beta? |
| 15:04.43 | wazd | Jaffa: with full featured ui and stuff :) |
| 15:05.33 | RST38h | Jaffa: "Real" beta is a beta that fully works, but not on a real device |
| 15:05.42 | Jaffa | wazd: I'm perfectly happy with them holding some stuff back if it has little to no impact on most app. development since it means we've actually *had* an SDK suitably long enough |
| 15:06.16 | Jaffa | I'm more upset about arbitrarily crap APIs than not having task switching, for example. |
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| 15:14.21 | Jaffa | would quite like an accelerometer simulator though |
| 15:14.27 | Jaffa | Since I've got lots of code written |
| 15:15.14 | wazd | Jaffa: there's not only task switching that's absent |
| 15:15.27 | wazd | Jaffa: portrait mode for example |
| 15:15.43 | RST38h | wazd: Portrait mode will be absent from the final Fremantle |
| 15:16.06 | RST38h | wazd: (which is weird considering that they are planning a phone :)) |
| 15:17.27 | wazd | no comments on this statement X( |
| 15:20.09 | _berto_ | RST38h: what do you mean by absent ? |
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| 15:31.03 | RST38h | berto: Quim once mentioned that Fremantle is not going to support portrait mode on user level |
| 15:31.35 | RST38h | There is a loophole provided for hackers to enable it, but as of now, even new widgets do not operate well in the portrait mode (they get cut off afaik) |
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| 15:33.24 | GAN800 | X-Fade, have you have any word from Freenode yet? |
| 15:33.31 | wazd | RST38h: obvious solution is to make 2 different desktop setups for both modes |
| 15:33.49 | X-Fade | GAN800: Nope. |
| 15:34.07 | GAN800 | Bleh, they sure love taking their goddamn time. |
| 15:34.08 | wazd | RST38h: you can even set different widgets for diggerent modes if you want |
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| 15:34.56 | X-Fade | GAN800: It is probably just lost. |
| 15:35.33 | GAN800 | I was rebuked for even considering asking about it last time I did. |
| 15:35.45 | GAN800 | Not a great way to run an operation. |
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| 16:03.16 | _berto_ | RST38h: they don't get cut off, in fact some like HildonBanner of the menu have explicit support for portrait mode |
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| 16:05.10 | _berto_ | but it's true that much more effort has been put in landscape mode |
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| 16:12.04 | Jaffa | wazd: Portrait, as well as it will be supported in Fremantle, can be done in the beta SDK by using xrandr. |
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| 17:10.23 | cheng_99 | does anyone know why my app launches from command line, but not from task menu? |
| 17:10.49 | cheng_99 | it shows loading, but then didn't launch |
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| 17:23.17 | z4chh | does anyone know why the link quality of wlan0 never seems to approach around 100%? i'm using a c program to check link quality using iwlib...and i can put my tablet right on my wireless access point and still got only around the 80s in link quality heh |
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| 17:40.31 | xnt14 | brb |
| 17:40.36 | xnt14 | mows the lawn |
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| 18:08.45 | wazd | xnt14: hope your name is not Job :D |
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| 18:14.27 | xnt14 | is back |
| 18:14.37 | RST38h | wazd: Sorry, did not answer to your last comment, went out |
| 18:14.39 | xnt14 | wazd, no, its not :P |
| 18:14.52 | RST38h | wazd: No, two different modes for widgets is not the right thing |
| 18:15.19 | xnt14 | well, now my mom wants us to go on a picnic :P, I want to finish up v3 of my site :P |
| 18:15.26 | RST38h | wazd: The right thing that is supposed to be on Nokia's task list is "make Maemo widgets scalable" |
| 18:16.07 | RST38h | wazd: The modes may apply to the layout engine though, because horizontal and vertical layouts may be different |
| 18:16.56 | xnt14 | oh and if you see b-man show his this http://xceleo.com/ |
| 18:16.56 | xnt14 | err |
| 18:16.56 | xnt14 | this: http://xceleo.org/network/ |
| 18:17.15 | wazd | RST38h: well, ofcourse separate layouts is not the best solution in the world, but definitely better than nothing and its pretty easy to make I think |
| 18:19.11 | wazd | RST38h: I'd propose some advanced "zoom to fit" technology that will place widgets in coloumn in portrait mode with zooming them out to fit the with |
| 18:19.20 | wazd | RST38h: something like that :) |
| 18:19.38 | RST38h | wazd: except that they do not seem to care about external suggestions =( :) |
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| 18:22.32 | wazd | RST38h: maybe someday :) |
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| 18:43.54 | thopiekar | hi there |
| 18:44.29 | thopiekar | I want you to test something :P open your python interpreter and type in: |
| 18:44.35 | thopiekar | import time |
| 18:44.51 | thopiekar | time.timezone/-1800 |
| 18:45.10 | thopiekar | it should print out the right timezone in which you are atm.. |
| 18:45.36 | thopiekar | *please |
| 18:45.40 | thopiekar | ;) |
| 18:46.26 | xnt14 | ok guys , g2g, im going to a picnic :P |
| 18:46.47 | thopiekar | g2g? |
| 18:47.00 | xnt14[away] | got to go |
| 18:47.07 | thopiekar | aah :D |
| 18:47.10 | thopiekar | k |
| 18:47.15 | thopiekar | cu |
| 18:47.18 | javispedro | thopiekar: prints "2" on mine, which is right (CEST UTC+2) |
| 18:47.38 | thopiekar | ok i'm in UTC+2, too |
| 18:47.49 | jaska | "4" ... but im UTC+3 (EEST) |
| 18:47.50 | thopiekar | because of the summertime in germany |
| 18:48.07 | thopiekar | jaska: summertime? |
| 18:48.15 | jaska | yeah, eastern european summer time (finland) |
| 18:48.24 | thopiekar | works! :P |
| 18:48.33 | thopiekar | t |
| 18:48.38 | thopiekar | thanks you |
| 18:48.45 | thopiekar | :D |
| 18:50.04 | philv | Er, shouldn't that be time.timezone/(-3600) to get the actual timezone you're in |
| 18:51.07 | javispedro | indeed, cause according to python docs time.timezone should return non-DST timezone |
| 18:51.12 | thopiekar | philv: hehe you are right: time.timezone/-1/60/60 .. but it works somehow :D |
| 18:51.33 | thopiekar | javispedro: *nod* |
| 18:51.59 | thopiekar | it has to return it with the dst! |
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| 19:04.08 | auntieNeo | ever since I joined maemo |
| 19:04.20 | auntieNeo | but I don't know if they're comming from #maemo for sure :s |
| 19:04.29 | auntieNeo | my name is usually near the top of the list :/ |
| 19:05.44 | VDVsx | check if those users are here or not :P |
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| 21:44.57 | wazd | what do you think bout that light version concept? http://s41.radikal.ru/i091/0907/64/ef7ee2835195.png |
| 21:45.39 | wazd | the only thing I still cant make out is a finger friendly way to go right to the last post |
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| 21:59.14 | VDVsx | wazd, yeah, since you have this post there, is a good idea |
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| 22:00.19 | VDVsx | wazd, I only don't like the "unread" colour :P |
| 22:00.50 | wazd | VDVsx: hmm, why?) |
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| 22:02.52 | VDVsx | wazd, don't call me attention :), I would prefer similar colours for the read (stronger) and unread (lighter) box's |
| 22:05.08 | VDVsx | s/read (stronger) and unread (lighter) box's/read (lighter) and unread (stronger) box's |
| 22:05.42 | wazd | VDVsx: well, orange can be brighter ) |
| 22:06.39 | VDVsx | the orange in the maemo.org logo will be better, I guess ;) |
| 22:07.09 | VDVsx | or maybe too shiny |
| 22:07.37 | wazd | VDVsx: http://s57.radikal.ru/i157/0907/bf/8977105bc270.png |
| 22:08.01 | wazd | VDVsx: I thought that deep orange is too disturbing, but maybe you're right |
| 22:09.00 | VDVsx | wazd, you might be right, depends on the user taste, but I like the last version :) |
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| 22:12.11 | wazd | VDVsx: too bad that I'm a pathetic coder and I don't have any sandbox to test my markup skills :) |
| 22:16.42 | VDVsx | wazd, well, you can also make art for some maemo community app, the acceptance ratio will be bigger and your skills will be all over :P |
| 22:17.38 | wazd | VDVsx: I'm making art for every community app that asks for it :) |
| 22:18.29 | VDVsx | wazd, so I think I have to ask for it too, lol |
| 22:18.46 | wazd | VDVsx: go on :) |
| 22:21.25 | VDVsx | wazd, my main app, bluemaemo need some love in that field, I have good ideas, but I'm very bad with design/draw tools ;) |
| 22:25.22 | wazd | VDVsx: http://www.christeck.de/wp/wp-content/uploads/christeck.de/bluemaemo_01.png <- app looks like this?) |
| 22:25.54 | VDVsx | wazd, more or less |
| 22:26.30 | wazd | VDVsx: well, thats definitely not the worst UI in the world ) |
| 22:27.19 | VDVsx | ;) |
| 22:27.53 | wazd | VDVsx: icons are pixelated as on the shot? |
| 22:28.17 | VDVsx | wazd, yes, it was taken in my PC |
| 22:28.56 | VDVsx | wazd, last screens -> http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/bluemaemo/ |
| 22:29.39 | wazd | VDVsx: I think it better to install it and see for myself :D |
| 22:30.20 | VDVsx | wazd, careful if you have extras-devel enabled |
| 22:30.26 | VDVsx | disable it first |
| 22:30.43 | wazd | VDVsx: nope, don't have it |
| 22:31.15 | VDVsx | someone uploaded some strange EFL packages to there :P |
| 22:32.15 | wazd | VDVsx: ok, I'll gladly help you with that stuff :) |
| 22:33.45 | VDVsx | wazd, the ui is all low level canvas, so no widgets or design blocker elements ;) |
| 22:33.59 | wazd | VDVsx: since I have a little bit free time between OMWeather mad brainstorms :D |
| 22:35.28 | wazd | VDVsx: cool, then we can fully pimp your app :) |
| 22:35.35 | VDVsx | wazd, good, just in case,the current images are here: https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/images/?root=bluemaemo |
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| 22:45.02 | wazd | VDVsx: hmm, I can't pass the "Waiting for connection" screen |
| 22:45.37 | VDVsx | you have to connnect it to your computer :P |
| 22:45.51 | wazd | VDVsx: in what order?) |
| 22:46.12 | wazd | VDVsx: bt manager on both devices tells me that it's connected |
| 22:46.30 | VDVsx | wazd, linux/win or OSX ? |
| 22:46.57 | wazd | VDVsx: win |
| 22:47.13 | VDVsx | wazd, you have to connect it, like a BT mouse or keyboard |
| 22:47.37 | VDVsx | go to the BT icon in the tray, select add new device, then select the n810 |
| 22:47.56 | VDVsx | the n8x0 should be in the waiting for connection screen |
| 22:48.19 | xnt14 | im back |
| 22:48.29 | xnt14 | spilled soda in hislaptop kb X( |
| 22:48.43 | xnt14 | * +" " |
| 22:48.54 | VDVsx | wazd, more info here: http://www.valeriovalerio.org/?page_id=174 |
| 22:49.01 | xnt14 | and my irc client is screwing uop..... |
| 22:49.17 | xnt14 | *up |
| 22:50.00 | wazd | VDVsx: I have 2 profiles, HID and remote control |
| 22:50.18 | VDVsx | choose HID |
| 22:54.33 | wazd | VDVsx: well, it's connected thru HID but BM still waits for something) |
| 22:54.45 | VDVsx | lolol |
| 22:55.04 | VDVsx | strange, is this vista ? |
| 22:55.11 | wazd | VDVsx: yep |
| 22:55.35 | wazd | VDVsx: it works fine with all my horde of other BT stuff :P |
| 22:56.18 | VDVsx | wazd, please close&open BM again, then try to connect again |
| 22:56.46 | wazd | VDVsx: looks like it hang up) |
| 22:56.54 | wazd | VDVsx: rebooting) |
| 22:56.58 | VDVsx | sometimes windows only register the device and then waits for the device to send something |
| 22:57.43 | VDVsx | memory full ? o_0 |
| 22:59.42 | wazd | VDVsx: my system is totaly trashed out so do take it close :) |
| 22:59.56 | wazd | VDVsx: I'm too lazy to reflash but I really have to ( |
| 23:02.58 | wazd | ok, now n800 show that it's offline and PC shows that n800 is connected thru the HID |
| 23:03.18 | wazd | and n800 can't see the list of available PC profiles |
| 23:03.23 | timeless_mbp__ | hi GeneralAntilles |
| 23:03.30 | wazd | so "connect" button is disabled |
| 23:04.50 | VDVsx | wazd, you don't need to do anything in the n800 side, just start the app and select the first option |
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| 23:13.53 | wazd | VDVsx: ok, i surrender, whatever :D |
| 23:14.12 | VDVsx | wazd, no clue ? |
| 23:14.18 | VDVsx | *luck |
| 23:14.30 | wazd | VDVsx: looks like n800 resets the connection from my pc |
| 23:15.18 | VDVsx | wazd, the n800 is in the waiting for connection screen ? |
| 23:15.25 | wazd | VDVsx: yep |
| 23:15.52 | VDVsx | wazd, I already used vista, and bluemaemo worked well |
| 23:15.52 | wazd | VDVsx: it recieves files smoothly |
| 23:16.01 | wazd | VDVsx: just don't like HID somehow |
| 23:18.25 | VDVsx | wazd, you can also force the connection in the n800 side |
| 23:18.44 | wazd | VDVsx: I can't deny that Vista's bt manager is pretty strange :) |
| 23:18.57 | wazd | VDVsx: I can't find "disconnect" button for example) |
| 23:19.11 | VDVsx | wazd, try this approach : http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=297947&postcount=382 (refer to the edit file part) |
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| 23:23.58 | xnt14 | im back |
| 23:24.03 | xnt14 | aand |
| 23:24.14 | xnt14 | now compiz doesn't run :( |
| 23:24.24 | wazd | VDVsx: how known_devices.cfg should look initially? |
| 23:24.46 | wazd | VDVsx: cause I see only it's path on the top and that's it |
| 23:25.45 | VDVsx | wazd, just mac_address=bt_adapter_name |
| 23:25.48 | VDVsx | nothing more |
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| 23:26.53 | VDVsx | wazd, but this file is only created when a device, successfully connects to BM |
| 23:27.35 | VDVsx | wazd, so you have to create it, in this scenario |
| 23:27.54 | xnt14 | oh, :P I just upgraded the kernel and it didn't load the nvidia module :P |
| 23:28.32 | xnt14 | ill be back rebooting..... |
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| 23:36.47 | wazd | VDVsx: seems like it's locked |
| 23:37.09 | VDVsx | wazd, humm ? |
| 23:37.20 | wazd | VDVsx: can't edit or delete it |
| 23:38.02 | VDVsx | wazd, ah to edit things in /etc/... you need superuser privileges |
| 23:38.33 | wazd | VDVsx: I surrender)) |
| 23:38.45 | VDVsx | lol |
| 23:39.41 | VDVsx | wazd, I can send you a modified version of BM tomorrow if you want ;) |
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| 23:41.15 | wazd | VDVsx: I've deleted it thru the terminal |
| 23:41.33 | wazd | VDVsx: I'm cool!11 xD |
| 23:41.50 | VDVsx | wazd, what you need to delete ? |
| 23:42.00 | wazd | VDVsx: old file |
| 23:42.07 | wazd | VDVsx: known_devices.cfg |
| 23:42.24 | wazd | VDVsx: now I should copy edited file to that directory |
| 23:43.19 | wazd | wow! |
| 23:43.22 | wazd | I did that! |
| 23:43.34 | VDVsx | wazd, did not need to delete the old one, just edit it |
| 23:43.41 | wazd | jesuschrist, I remember console commands! |
| 23:45.15 | wazd | VDVsx: now it apeared in devices list but it has a rectanle before mac address |
| 23:45.41 | wazd | like missing symbol |
| 23:45.56 | VDVsx | wazd, you used a bad text editor, lol |
| 23:46.12 | wazd | VDVsx: well, notes is my only text editor :( |
| 23:47.08 | wazd | VDVsx: I've edited it thru emel |
| 23:47.15 | wazd | VDVsx: now it's ok |
| 23:47.28 | wazd | unable to connect |
| 23:47.59 | wazd | but bt manager on n800 shows me that I'm connected |
| 23:48.31 | VDVsx | try again please, vista is strange :( |
| 23:48.44 | VDVsx | just try to reconnnect |
| 23:49.02 | wazd | VDVsx: yeah, all bad things in the world happens because of Vista :D |
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| 23:57.32 | wazd | VDVsx: but I can work on the UI anyway :) |
| 23:57.58 | VDVsx | wazd, this is strange a lot of users reported it working on vista |
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| 23:58.58 | VDVsx | wazd, do you have a custom BT stack or the standard one ? |
| 23:59.08 | wazd | VDVsx: standart one |
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