| 00:00.11 | Brainy142 | anyone here tries mer on the smart Q 5 or 7? |
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| 00:01.48 | Brainy142 | I was wondering if all the apps that are on mer work with the smart Q or if they have to be ported individually? |
| 00:03.05 | zakkm | its the same apps |
| 00:03.19 | zakkm | mer should run okay, for q7 i think wifi is still experimental |
| 00:04.15 | Brainy142 | ok, does it have any GPU acceleration? or is that still in the works? |
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| 00:04.43 | zakkm | not 100% sure, but id say no .. i mean DSP yes |
| 00:04.49 | zakkm | but wouldnt think 3d |
| 00:04.58 | zakkm | not the right person to ask though |
| 00:05.27 | Brainy142 | I was wondering if it played video's better than the ubuntu os it came with |
| 00:05.40 | zakkm | you use mplayer? |
| 00:05.45 | Brainy142 | yup |
| 00:05.54 | Brainy142 | (not on the smart Q I dont have one yet |
| 00:05.59 | zakkm | normal xvids should play just fine? |
| 00:06.04 | Brainy142 | I use it on my ubuntu pc |
| 00:06.07 | Brainy142 | cool |
| 00:06.13 | zakkm | like 175/350mb xvids? |
| 00:06.16 | zakkm | "legal" ? |
| 00:06.21 | Brainy142 | lol |
| 00:06.23 | zakkm | they should work just fine without reencoding |
| 00:06.31 | zakkm | but wouldnt try out 720p :P |
| 00:06.42 | Brainy142 | Ya I hate encoding mkv's |
| 00:06.49 | zakkm | mkv wont do. |
| 00:06.52 | zakkm | just normal .avi |
| 00:06.56 | Brainy142 | oh :( |
| 00:07.07 | zakkm | unless its a really low mkv |
| 00:07.22 | Brainy142 | ah it doesn't like mp4 got it |
| 00:07.26 | lcuk | zakkm, i think i got it through! |
| 00:07.29 | zakkm | ive gotten 100mb mkv, paid horribly... then i gotta a nice 350mb xvid played perfectly |
| 00:07.29 | lcuk | its in extras-devel |
| 00:07.37 | zakkm | lcuk: getting it :D |
| 00:07.42 | Brainy142 | nice |
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| 00:08.15 | zakkm | also screensize wise, you dont really need much |
| 00:08.16 | Brainy142 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.30 | zakkm | i want a smartq :( |
| 00:08.36 | zakkm | ill trade you my n800 for it :D |
| 00:08.40 | Brainy142 | Raz gets a shipment tommorro |
| 00:08.56 | zakkm | how much |
| 00:08.59 | Brainy142 | 165 dollars |
| 00:09.05 | zakkm | ew |
| 00:09.07 | Brainy142 | shipping and insurance free |
| 00:09.09 | zakkm | its only 132 i thought |
| 00:09.22 | zakkm | less with Stskeeps magic discount :D |
| 00:09.28 | Brainy142 | lol |
| 00:09.45 | zakkm | lcuk: i dont see it? |
| 00:09.56 | Brainy142 | I wish nand prices would go down |
| 00:09.57 | lcuk | queued for delivery lol |
| 00:10.14 | zakkm | ah man |
| 00:10.23 | zakkm | is there a deb i can wget __ && dpkg -i ? |
| 00:10.38 | zakkm | deb link me the one you uploading |
| 00:11.52 | lcuk | its in the folders for the repo, hmmm just a mo |
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| 00:12.46 | zakkm | ohh i see it |
| 00:12.47 | Brainy142 | Ya I wish mkv wasn't so hard to encode into a different file format w/o losin subs :( |
| 00:12.49 | zakkm | 0.3.7 ? |
| 00:12.52 | lcuk | yah |
| 00:13.33 | Brainy142 | ... I want a magic discount... lol |
| 00:13.53 | zakkm | its downloading |
| 00:14.06 | zakkm | Brainy142: he get slike 30% off or something |
| 00:14.13 | zakkm | developer discount |
| 00:14.14 | Brainy142 | :( |
| 00:14.20 | Brainy142 | oh |
| 00:14.21 | Brainy142 | lol |
| 00:14.29 | zakkm | you should unmux the mkv |
| 00:14.34 | zakkm | and then encode |
| 00:14.45 | Brainy142 | I do just re-encoding it is a pain |
| 00:14.59 | Brainy142 | as the subs only go on 1/2 the time |
| 00:15.00 | zakkm | lcuk: ... error'd cause i have liqbase |
| 00:15.09 | zakkm | lcuk: cant have liqbase 0.1.5 + liqbase playgrund at same time |
| 00:15.22 | lcuk | damn i forgot about that |
| 00:15.35 | zakkm | did you write that in? |
| 00:15.40 | lcuk | its 3 bloody files \@/ (the cpu update ones) |
| 00:15.42 | zakkm | as a conflict? |
| 00:15.48 | lcuk | no i dunno how :$ |
| 00:15.57 | zakkm | get the intsaller to rm it then |
| 00:16.05 | zakkm | in the makefile |
| 00:16.12 | zakkm | and then liqbase-playground to make them? |
| 00:16.25 | zakkm | removed liqbase, unpacking again :D |
| 00:16.40 | zakkm | conflicts should be set when you uploaded to extras? |
| 00:16.47 | zakkm | uhh problem |
| 00:17.00 | lcuk | its not in extras |
| 00:17.02 | lcuk | whats up |
| 00:17.17 | zakkm | "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of liqbase-playground: liqbase-playgrund depends on libliqbase1; however: package libliqbase1 is not installed." |
| 00:17.21 | zakkm | had to type that lol |
| 00:17.27 | lcuk | heh |
| 00:17.34 | zakkm | ohh are you uploading that too? |
| 00:17.35 | lcuk | its a dep - perhaps they havent both hit yet |
| 00:17.45 | lcuk | yeah |
| 00:17.46 | lcuk | both passed |
| 00:17.48 | lcuk | and queued |
| 00:17.52 | lcuk | they are both listed in |
| 00:17.53 | zakkm | okay |
| 00:17.55 | zakkm | gotta find that too then :D |
| 00:17.58 | lcuk | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/libl/libliqbase/ |
| 00:18.10 | lcuk | 0.3.7 |
| 00:18.17 | zakkm | oh wow different spot ;p |
| 00:18.27 | zakkm | dev or no dev? |
| 00:18.34 | lcuk | 1 |
| 00:18.44 | lcuk | you only need the dev if you are creating things :) |
| 00:19.08 | Brainy142 | dev is the developers package |
| 00:19.58 | Brainy142 | O man..... freeciv.... ported to arm..... so awesome my head asplode |
| 00:20.24 | zakkm | lib installed perfect :D |
| 00:20.29 | zakkm | freeciv is slow on tablet :P |
| 00:20.36 | zakkm | its in maemo |
| 00:20.36 | Brainy142 | :( |
| 00:20.40 | Brainy142 | noooooo |
| 00:20.51 | Brainy142 | my head no longer asplode |
| 00:21.00 | zakkm | problem again lcuk |
| 00:21.16 | zakkm | ohh |
| 00:21.18 | zakkm | no space left? |
| 00:21.29 | zakkm | maybe thats a error for me then lol |
| 00:21.38 | zakkm | yeah it is, sorry |
| 00:22.08 | Brainy142 | that sucks |
| 00:22.14 | Brainy142 | running out of space |
| 00:22.23 | zakkm | i dont normally use maemo from flash |
| 00:22.51 | zakkm | lost my 4gb sd |
| 00:22.57 | Brainy142 | ouch |
| 00:23.18 | Brainy142 | I guess you could just get an 8 gig for 20 dollars |
| 00:23.31 | zakkm | uhh lcuk it doesnt work |
| 00:23.36 | zakkm | i dont have money |
| 00:23.45 | Brainy142 | ah |
| 00:23.49 | lcuk | money wont help |
| 00:23.56 | lcuk | what happens when you run |
| 00:23.59 | Brainy142 | lol |
| 00:24.06 | Brainy142 | you hit a wall? |
| 00:24.08 | zakkm | it shows loading, and then cpu goes back to 0 |
| 00:24.12 | zakkm | whats the terminal command for it? |
| 00:24.16 | zakkm | ill see if it shows something |
| 00:24.24 | zakkm | i tried liqbase and liqbase-playgrund but nothing |
| 00:24.24 | lcuk | liqbase-playground-run.sh |
| 00:24.37 | lcuk | tab completion is your friend |
| 00:25.00 | Brainy142 | are you sure freeciv runs bad... |
| 00:25.01 | zakkm | omg |
| 00:25.09 | zakkm | error :D |
| 00:25.29 | lcuk | big log then error or nothing at all? |
| 00:25.39 | zakkm | at argument 3 it fails |
| 00:25.46 | zakkm | onesec let me type this lol |
| 00:26.45 | lcuk | pastebin the whole thing |
| 00:26.50 | lcuk | it puts it in context |
| 00:26.56 | zakkm | 23;26;589 hildon/osso initializing context: org.maemo.processs 1861; arguments to dbus_bus_request_name() were incorrect, assertion "_dbus_check_is_valid_bus_name(name)" failede in file dbus-bus.c line 982. this is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library. D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace. Aborted. |
| 00:26.57 | lcuk | from when you ran it to the end |
| 00:27.10 | zakkm | no |
| 00:27.14 | zakkm | ill do the part before that then |
| 00:27.59 | zakkm | Welcome to liqbase-playground ver 0.2 you passed 3 arguments argument 0 = ./liqbase-playground argument 1 = -showwidget argument 2 = kotcomix,tagclud......liqbook 23;26;58 hildon/osso (what i said above) |
| 00:28.11 | zakkm | and then just asks for new command |
| 00:28.14 | lcuk | dont worry |
| 00:28.18 | lcuk | i see the bug |
| 00:28.23 | zakkm | :D |
| 00:28.35 | lcuk | slaps forehead |
| 00:28.38 | lcuk | thanks and sorry |
| 00:28.52 | zakkm | it could be my install, i do have alot of weird stuff installed in jffs2 |
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| 00:29.36 | Macer | anybody here have a macbook? |
| 00:30.08 | zakkm | eww macbook |
| 00:30.15 | zakkm | i make my mac think its a macbook? does that count? |
| 00:30.56 | zakkm | lcuk: you have it open ondemand command when liqbase starts? |
| 00:31.24 | zakkm | your like forcing it? |
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| 00:50.24 | lcuk | zakkm, at this point yeah |
| 00:50.28 | lcuk | its a test run |
| 00:50.40 | zakkm | okay |
| 00:50.44 | zakkm | im just wondering |
| 00:51.51 | lcuk | ive just cured both ills with the package hopefully |
| 00:51.51 | lcuk | thanks for the report |
| 00:52.10 | zakkm | shall you send again and i try? |
| 00:52.12 | lcuk | ive made the conflicting files hopefully vanish |
| 00:52.18 | lcuk | ive renamed em in my side and in the package and where they are used |
| 00:52.21 | zakkm | ive already deleted liqbase though :( |
| 00:52.47 | lcuk | just put it back |
| 00:52.47 | lcuk | your sketches are still there |
| 00:52.56 | zakkm | sweet :D |
| 00:52.57 | lcuk | and when the new one lands i think they will coexist |
| 00:53.13 | zakkm | did you remake the debs for the fixed ones? |
| 00:53.17 | zakkm | like shall i try again? |
| 00:54.49 | lcuk | its not in extras yet |
| 00:55.00 | lcuk | im just pushing the .debs to ftp if you want em from there :) |
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| 00:55.57 | lcuk | http://liqbase.net/up2/libliqbase-dev_0.3.8_armel.deb http://liqbase.net/up2/liqbase-playground_0.3.8_armel.deb |
| 00:56.19 | zakkm | not -dev? :P |
| 00:57.06 | lcuk | http://liqbase.net/up2/libliqbase1_0.3.8_armel.deb |
| 00:57.08 | lcuk | of course |
| 00:59.47 | zakkm | lcuk: doing it, real slow hah |
| 01:00.03 | lcuk | whats slow |
| 01:00.34 | zakkm | me downloading + installing on tablet |
| 01:00.34 | zakkm | ;p |
| 01:00.52 | lcuk | hah |
| 01:01.09 | lcuk | i have to contend with gcc running quite often |
| 01:01.14 | lcuk | but still it works well |
| 01:04.42 | zakkm | :( |
| 01:04.45 | zakkm | lcuk: still doesnt run |
| 01:04.57 | lcuk | poo sticks |
| 01:05.10 | lcuk | whats error now |
| 01:07.57 | zakkm | lcuk: runs if i do it from command? |
| 01:07.59 | lcuk | redownloads as well |
| 01:08.08 | zakkm | woww |
| 01:08.14 | zakkm | could it be a menu thing perhaps |
| 01:08.18 | zakkm | that it didnt update menu? |
| 01:08.19 | lcuk | yeah will be |
| 01:08.23 | zakkm | or that menu runs as user not root? |
| 01:08.26 | zakkm | cause from terminal i ran as root |
| 01:08.42 | lcuk | its likely me screwing up the menu |
| 01:08.46 | lcuk | does it run tho :O |
| 01:08.53 | zakkm | uhh lcuk why do you have it open web afterwards |
| 01:08.57 | zakkm | "thanki you for trying liqbase" |
| 01:09.08 | zakkm | yeah if i do command |
| 01:09.10 | zakkm | going to try to learn why |
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| 01:12.04 | lcuk | zakkm, :) ill make that closing message vanish after its been seen. i think the prblem is bad field in the .desktop |
| 01:12.18 | lcuk | when i was talking in #liqbase earlier and put the first one out |
| 01:12.27 | lcuk | it was all setup as "liqbase-playground" |
| 01:12.39 | lcuk | and it made the desktop crash when it read the .desktop file! |
| 01:13.10 | lcuk | so i tried to make sure osso was always getting a "legal" name |
| 01:13.16 | lcuk | liqbase_playground |
| 01:13.23 | zakkm | lcuk: yeah its just the menu that wont start it |
| 01:13.28 | lcuk | so look for things which are out of place in that context |
| 01:13.59 | zakkm | running it from root and user both work under commandline perfectly |
| 01:14.03 | zakkm | with 0.3.8 . |
| 01:14.09 | lcuk | :) |
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| 01:14.19 | lcuk | thats nice to hear |
| 01:14.37 | zakkm | wheres the .desktop located? |
| 01:14.40 | zakkm | it wont work from menu |
| 01:14.59 | zakkm | on goodbye... closing liqbase it starts the web and opens "thank you for trying" |
| 01:15.01 | zakkm | every time.. |
| 01:15.17 | zakkm | at least make it start in tear :D |
| 01:15.22 | lcuk | lol! |
| 01:15.30 | lcuk | patches accepted ;) |
| 01:15.59 | zakkm | if it starts in tear, then they know a bit about maemo , otherwise they dont and end-users wont get mad ;p |
| 01:16.03 | zakkm | hah |
| 01:16.11 | lcuk | theres no need to start in anything technically |
| 01:16.13 | zakkm | cause normal end-users dont have tear :P |
| 01:16.18 | lcuk | i just havent finished the closing screen yet |
| 01:16.26 | lcuk | liqbase is faster than tear :P |
| 01:16.28 | zakkm | wheres the menu item .desktop ? |
| 01:16.34 | lcuk | liqbase doesnt have to tear lol |
| 01:16.52 | lcuk | /usr/share/applications/hildon/liqbase_playground.desktop |
| 01:17.09 | Brainy142 | back |
| 01:17.12 | lcuk | /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.maemo.liqbase_playground.service |
| 01:17.16 | lcuk | also, that is related |
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| 01:17.38 | lcuk | osso should be registered as org.maemo.liqbase_playground |
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| 01:19.00 | zakkm | hmm |
| 01:19.40 | zakkm | org.maemo.liqbase_playground = empty? |
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| 01:21.24 | lcuk | zakkm, i dont store anything in its osso stuff |
| 01:21.38 | lcuk | i merely register at the start and close at the end |
| 01:21.44 | zakkm | what are the alternates, nano, vi .. |
| 01:21.45 | lcuk | its purely for handshaking |
| 01:21.45 | zakkm | what else? |
| 01:21.59 | zakkm | need something better |
| 01:22.04 | zakkm | going to try messing with .desktop till it works |
| 01:22.05 | lcuk | for what? |
| 01:22.21 | zakkm | cli text editing |
| 01:22.35 | lcuk | im the last personm you should ask ! |
| 01:22.40 | lcuk | i am a visual basic dev |
| 01:22.50 | zakkm | ill try vim |
| 01:23.06 | zakkm | whys there no nano in repositories? |
| 01:23.15 | lcuk | too big? |
| 01:23.31 | zakkm | nano - 50kb i think? |
| 01:23.39 | zakkm | ah no found it |
| 01:23.43 | zakkm | its in diablo/tools apparently |
| 01:23.59 | lcuk | if something isnt there, you might wonder why, if you desire it, build it |
| 01:24.02 | lcuk | ahhh k |
| 01:25.40 | zakkm | does hildon menu refresh on its own? |
| 01:25.42 | zakkm | on launch? |
| 01:25.52 | lcuk | i am not sure |
| 01:26.06 | zakkm | if i were to edit a .desktop file could i try it out straight away you think? |
| 01:26.22 | lcuk | i couldnt before but my system is screwed |
| 01:26.30 | lcuk | it managed to run binaries yours cant! |
| 01:26.39 | zakkm | well sorrry :( |
| 01:26.55 | zakkm | my flash one is screwed, and i formatted my boot-to-sd |
| 01:26.57 | zakkm | moving to mer :D |
| 01:26.59 | lcuk | the 0.3.7 is installed on my system, it crashed yours because it was accessing memory which had been free()d |
| 01:27.16 | Brainy142 | don't you have to restart x sometimes for changing things to occur? |
| 01:27.18 | zakkm | well then its a good thing i was able to test it then isnt it :P |
| 01:27.25 | lcuk | yeah |
| 01:27.35 | lcuk | wouldv blown eventually |
| 01:27.39 | lcuk | but it happens on startup |
| 01:27.50 | lcuk | so i shoudlv noticed! |
| 01:27.54 | zakkm | Get:3 http://repository.maemo.org diablo/tools/free nano 2.0.2-1osso6 [553kB] |
| 01:27.57 | zakkm | woohoo :D |
| 01:28.08 | zakkm | i cant use anything but nano for textediting cli |
| 01:28.09 | lcuk | anyway, zakkm, if you find out what it is, send me an email for now, or get the .git source and fix yourself |
| 01:28.20 | zakkm | im sure its just the .desktop |
| 01:28.31 | zakkm | i dont even have your email , i guess i could find on google though |
| 01:28.32 | zakkm | and k |
| 01:28.38 | lcuk | liquid@gmail.com |
| 01:28.48 | zakkm | likes to spam peoples emails :) |
| 01:28.56 | lcuk | or just call into #liqbase |
| 01:29.08 | lcuk | i get enough as it stands |
| 01:29.20 | lcuk | google are good at keeping msot at bay |
| 01:29.49 | Brainy142 | hotmail fails ata that though :D |
| 01:30.08 | lcuk | then dont use hotfail |
| 01:30.12 | zakkm | wait lcuk |
| 01:30.17 | zakkm | could it be menu doesnt allow .sh's ? |
| 01:30.24 | zakkm | .sh has to run in terminal dont they? |
| 01:30.25 | lcuk | you tell me |
| 01:30.28 | zakkm | they arent commands on their own? |
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| 01:30.36 | zakkm | .sh is a set of commands |
| 01:30.42 | zakkm | a script |
| 01:30.43 | lcuk | it worked before with .sh :S |
| 01:30.48 | zakkm | oh really okay |
| 01:30.53 | zakkm | im just brainstorming :D |
| 01:31.07 | lcuk | im v sleepy, tis well past my bedtime |
| 01:32.13 | lcuk | gnite zakkm :) have fun in the playground, see what you can discover |
| 01:32.23 | zakkm | k :) |
| 01:32.42 | zakkm | goodnight |
| 01:34.58 | Brainy142 | have a good day |
| 01:35.24 | zakkm | dang :( |
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| 01:38.22 | Brainy142 | playground sounds fun... |
| 01:38.40 | Brainy142 | so does mar... |
| 01:41.06 | zakkm | Brainy142: you new to tablet scene? |
| 01:41.31 | Brainy142 | yup |
| 01:41.59 | Brainy142 | still trying to decide weather to "bite the bullet" |
| 01:42.30 | Brainy142 | portable freeciv sounds so fun... |
| 01:42.54 | derf | It's really slow. |
| 01:43.05 | derf | Freeciv, I mean. |
| 01:43.08 | Brainy142 | like really slow or just slow |
| 01:43.22 | zakkm | you can play it :D |
| 01:43.29 | zakkm | but with small screen and such it isnt really worth it |
| 01:43.33 | derf | But games take a lot longer. |
| 01:43.36 | zakkm | its alot more of a proof-of-concept i think |
| 01:43.37 | Brainy142 | cuz i'm on a freaking amd 2000+ with no 3d acell |
| 01:43.42 | zakkm | why no 3d? |
| 01:43.48 | Brainy142 | small screen the q7 has 7 inch's |
| 01:43.50 | zakkm | even a old geforce2 has 3d :P |
| 01:43.50 | derf | Brainy142: That would be fast in comparison. |
| 01:44.00 | zakkm | ohh |
| 01:44.02 | zakkm | on q7 |
| 01:44.04 | Brainy142 | no 3d due to stupid un supported v card |
| 01:44.09 | zakkm | lol |
| 01:44.13 | zakkm | nokias dont have either |
| 01:44.21 | Brainy142 | lol |
| 01:44.52 | Brainy142 | how does it generally run though.... besaides freeciv lol |
| 01:45.15 | zakkm | the OS? |
| 01:45.17 | zakkm | like using mer? |
| 01:45.20 | Brainy142 | plus since the q5/7 has otg I could use a mouse :D |
| 01:45.23 | Brainy142 | ya mer |
| 01:45.29 | zakkm | would run okay |
| 01:45.35 | zakkm | pidgin, browser, etc |
| 01:45.49 | zakkm | gimp is a bit sloww |
| 01:45.50 | Brainy142 | I just wish it has mkv |
| 01:45.58 | zakkm | it does, it just cant render it |
| 01:46.02 | zakkm | it would go like 3-4fps |
| 01:46.06 | Brainy142 | lol |
| 01:46.09 | zakkm | its unwatchable but it does work |
| 01:46.21 | Brainy142 | like my old pocket pc eh? |
| 01:46.30 | zakkm | tablet alot more powerful ;p |
| 01:46.34 | zakkm | you'd run mplayer too |
| 01:46.36 | zakkm | maybe vlc |
| 01:46.46 | Brainy142 | I like mplayer so thats a bonus |
| 01:47.02 | zakkm | it uses gmlauncher |
| 01:47.03 | Brainy142 | do any of the emulators work well? |
| 01:47.13 | zakkm | mer, ive never tried |
| 01:47.17 | zakkm | in maemo work really well |
| 01:47.20 | zakkm | sort of limited though |
| 01:47.28 | Brainy142 | I tried the x86 version in vbox it took a min to load |
| 01:47.29 | zakkm | theres scuumvm, gba, gbc, nes , |
| 01:47.40 | Brainy142 | all I need is a gamepad |
| 01:47.41 | zakkm | vbox would use your cpu though... |
| 01:47.44 | zakkm | not the tablets |
| 01:47.57 | Brainy142 | I know :D runs so slow in vbox |
| 01:48.14 | Brainy142 | dam you via |
| 01:48.30 | Brainy142 | not supporting 3d in linux grr |
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| 01:49.28 | Brainy142 | I'm kinda used to a bit of slowness |
| 01:50.01 | Brainy142 | oddly though in windows my old amd 2000 emulates n64 better than my intel dual core |
| 01:51.00 | Brainy142 | the intel cant even get a steady framerate, while the amd chugged a little every 2 min |
| 01:51.54 | zakkm | you sure you had driver installed right? |
| 01:51.57 | zakkm | right plugin? |
| 01:52.02 | Brainy142 | yup |
| 01:52.15 | zakkm | intel is way better at emulation |
| 01:52.18 | Brainy142 | emulated gamecube better than n64???? |
| 01:52.22 | zakkm | especially in old retro gaming |
| 01:52.34 | zakkm | i used to belong to a group many years ago that did it |
| 01:52.43 | Brainy142 | cool |
| 01:53.14 | Brainy142 | man If you could harness the gpu for 3d in the smart q... dam that would rock |
| 01:53.31 | Brainy142 | it would run games better than my amd lol |
| 01:54.15 | Brainy142 | although i'm used to hacking things a bit |
| 01:54.28 | Brainy142 | I love getting full use of things |
| 01:55.28 | Brainy142 | does the youtube app work well? |
| 01:56.17 | zakkm | yup |
| 01:56.26 | zakkm | youtube itself on browser not so much, you can i dont recommend it though |
| 01:56.30 | zakkm | might be better in q7 though |
| 01:56.37 | zakkm | but youtube app works perfectly, theres several too |
| 01:56.42 | Brainy142 | q5 and q7 have same specs |
| 01:56.43 | zakkm | in mer you have full ubuntu repository dont forget |
| 01:56.50 | zakkm | yeah but i never tried either |
| 01:56.52 | zakkm | i just have a n800 |
| 01:56.59 | Brainy142 | as long as it's ported to arm... |
| 01:57.05 | Brainy142 | :D |
| 01:57.30 | zakkm | which most are? |
| 01:57.37 | lcuk | arm isnt the problem, its the screensize/dpi/expectations that arent |
| 01:57.39 | zakkm | ubuntu armel is huge |
| 01:57.43 | zakkm | the repository |
| 01:57.51 | zakkm | lcuk: what happened to bed? |
| 01:57.55 | Brainy142 | hmm... I though nothing was hardly ported |
| 01:58.03 | lcuk | jacob :| |
| 01:58.06 | zakkm | :D |
| 01:58.12 | Brainy142 | hey |
| 01:58.17 | Brainy142 | your back |
| 01:58.22 | lcuk | no |
| 01:58.36 | Brainy142 | oh |
| 01:58.57 | lcuk | quick smoke before lyin back down |
| 01:59.39 | Brainy142 | well zakkm would you personally think that mer is worth it on a smart q that costs 164 dollars or is it too premature? |
| 01:59.45 | lcuk | Brainy142, liqbase was created through a desire to use everything to maximum potential |
| 01:59.59 | Brainy142 | yay potental |
| 02:00.15 | lcuk | Brainy142, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMXp0Dg_UaY have a look |
| 02:00.34 | lcuk | then get the .deb and see if you can create anything in it :) |
| 02:00.44 | lcuk | it should work nicely on smartq |
| 02:00.46 | Brainy142 | looks fun |
| 02:00.50 | zakkm | lcuk: did you try that yet? |
| 02:01.01 | zakkm | liqbase in mer? |
| 02:01.02 | lcuk | mer doesnt have xv yet |
| 02:01.11 | zakkm | oh thats why its so fast |
| 02:01.11 | lcuk | but theres no rush |
| 02:01.15 | zakkm | k |
| 02:01.16 | lcuk | none of us are ready |
| 02:01.26 | zakkm | i was going to test out cause i got mer in easy mer |
| 02:01.30 | Brainy142 | that looks amazing |
| 02:01.31 | zakkm | see if it runs from menu in that :D |
| 02:01.34 | lcuk | patches welcome tho :) |
| 02:01.54 | zakkm | pdf reading preferred :D |
| 02:02.21 | Brainy142 | man I have to like buy one real soon |
| 02:02.21 | Brainy142 | thats amazing |
| 02:02.21 | lcuk | the book reader will be back to normal soon |
| 02:02.24 | zakkm | lcuk: you got a new suckup :D |
| 02:02.26 | Brainy142 | the touch screen is used very well |
| 02:02.37 | lcuk | but its fully capable of laying out and displaying full color pages.. with images and fonts etc |
| 02:03.04 | Brainy142 | do we have any physics games? |
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| 02:03.16 | lcuk | zakkm, there are a large number of fans, you included :P |
| 02:03.25 | lcuk | stop calling yourself a suckup :D |
| 02:03.34 | lcuk | but im goin, gnite |
| 02:03.45 | Brainy142 | have a good day |
| 02:03.47 | lcuk | and Brainy142 yeah, the tablets are most than usable :) |
| 02:03.48 | zakkm | im not, i was referring to Brainy |
| 02:04.18 | Brainy142 | this kicks the ipods ui out the window |
| 02:05.24 | zakkm | heh |
| 02:05.28 | zakkm | ipods are the greatest :D |
| 02:05.30 | Brainy142 | does the mer site list all of the apps or just some big pics |
| 02:05.55 | Brainy142 | come on you have to agree the new shuffle= fail |
| 02:06.16 | Brainy142 | I used to have a touch... then I sold it |
| 02:06.33 | Brainy142 | I made 30 dollars though :D |
| 02:06.45 | Brainy142 | *more than I payed* |
| 02:06.49 | zakkm | im a macfanboy :) |
| 02:06.58 | Brainy142 | I dislike macs |
| 02:07.08 | zakkm | :O |
| 02:07.14 | zakkm | alot of ppl here have macs |
| 02:07.15 | Brainy142 | I DO however like the disign of them |
| 02:07.29 | Brainy142 | but I feel the os is a fail |
| 02:07.32 | zakkm | mac OSX is the greatest OS |
| 02:07.34 | zakkm | -.- |
| 02:07.39 | Brainy142 | and price is super fail |
| 02:07.45 | Brainy142 | mac is linux |
| 02:07.49 | zakkm | no its not |
| 02:07.54 | Brainy142 | yup |
| 02:07.57 | zakkm | not at all |
| 02:08.05 | zakkm | if anything its BSD , not linux |
| 02:08.11 | zakkm | but even then its far from BSD |
| 02:08.18 | Brainy142 | bsd linux whatever |
| 02:08.22 | Brainy142 | same thing to me |
| 02:08.32 | zakkm | mac OSX and actual BSD/Linux is hugeely differnet |
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| 02:08.49 | Brainy142 | the battary life rocks though |
| 02:08.53 | Brainy142 | on a macbook |
| 02:09.16 | zakkm | theres nothing similar between linux and mac |
| 02:09.17 | zakkm | -.- |
| 02:09.27 | zakkm | besides maybe the file tree |
| 02:09.41 | Brainy142 | like the lappy the school gave me gives me 1.5 hrs of battary with wifi |
| 02:09.49 | zakkm | the school gave you a laptop?! |
| 02:09.51 | zakkm | damn |
| 02:09.53 | zakkm | i want |
| 02:09.57 | jaem_N810 | it only gets 1.5hrs? |
| 02:10.01 | jaem_N810 | that's terrible |
| 02:10.05 | Brainy142 | ya toshiba |
| 02:10.09 | zakkm | gave... as in free? :D |
| 02:10.11 | jaem_N810 | huh |
| 02:10.14 | Brainy142 | older pentium m |
| 02:10.15 | zakkm | what school is this? |
| 02:10.24 | jaem_N810 | zakkm: I got one too, way back in grade 7 |
| 02:10.32 | zakkm | lucky omg |
| 02:10.32 | Brainy142 | It stays at the school but I use it to type sometimes |
| 02:10.41 | jaem_N810 | and since it was HP junk, it kept dying |
| 02:10.46 | zakkm | im in grade 12, well finished in a week its exam week.. and i never had a laptop :( |
| 02:10.48 | Brainy142 | our elementary schools in canada have MACBOOKS |
| 02:10.49 | zakkm | i want one so much |
| 02:10.56 | Brainy142 | FREAKIN MACBOOKS |
| 02:11.00 | zakkm | how?! |
| 02:11.10 | zakkm | Brainy142: i live in Toronto, Canada. |
| 02:11.28 | jaem_N810 | and every time it died, Tech Support would be so awful that I'd wind up getting a new model after complaining for a week or two |
| 02:11.40 | Brainy142 | like I was helping to teach and we had a room with like 20 macbooks |
| 02:11.49 | zakkm | omg |
| 02:11.52 | zakkm | luckyy |
| 02:11.59 | zakkm | i would do alotttt for a macbook |
| 02:11.59 | Brainy142 | our high school has quad core pc's |
| 02:12.17 | Brainy142 | they are like so fast |
| 02:12.25 | zakkm | lol |
| 02:12.28 | Brainy142 | especally at video conversion |
| 02:12.29 | jaem_N810 | the only computers I haven't gotten free in the last 9 years were my N810 and a cheapo desktop :D |
| 02:12.38 | zakkm | you got a free n810!? |
| 02:12.38 | Brainy142 | lol |
| 02:12.46 | zakkm | damn |
| 02:12.47 | jaem_N810 | zakkm: no |
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| 02:12.57 | Brainy142 | he said "haven't" |
| 02:12.59 | jaem_N810 | I payed for that |
| 02:13.05 | zakkm | oh |
| 02:13.11 | zakkm | so what did you get that was free ? |
| 02:13.12 | jaem_N810 | I got everything else in the last 9 years free, one way or another |
| 02:13.20 | zakkm | damn |
| 02:13.28 | Brainy142 | I got a psp for 60 dollars |
| 02:13.32 | jaem_N810 | at the end of spring term, I ended up with 3 laptops |
| 02:13.37 | Brainy142 | nice |
| 02:13.39 | zakkm | jaem_N810: send me one :) |
| 02:13.47 | Brainy142 | *yoinks lappy* |
| 02:13.51 | jaem_N810 | one on loan, one with a dead hdd that I replaced and gave to my sister... |
| 02:13.58 | zakkm | omg |
| 02:14.02 | zakkm | i want a laptop |
| 02:14.03 | jaem_N810 | and one that a floormate couldn't fit in her suitcase |
| 02:14.05 | Brainy142 | nice |
| 02:14.06 | zakkm | been watching craigslist |
| 02:14.08 | jaem_N810 | not kidding |
| 02:14.22 | Brainy142 | craigs had a really got deal a mth ago |
| 02:14.28 | jaem_N810 | zakkm: CL laptop's are sketchy at best |
| 02:14.33 | zakkm | CL ? |
| 02:14.34 | Brainy142 | they had a tablet pc for like 250 |
| 02:14.36 | jaem_N810 | as are most used ones |
| 02:14.36 | zakkm | ah |
| 02:14.41 | zakkm | yeah |
| 02:14.45 | zakkm | i want one for september |
| 02:14.47 | jaem_N810 | a friend of mine bought one |
| 02:14.47 | zakkm | for school and such |
| 02:14.57 | zakkm | and im joining stock market too an d such so i got alot to watch |
| 02:14.57 | Brainy142 | I'l probably use the smart q as my lappy... |
| 02:15.04 | jaem_N810 | the guy didn't tell him that the power jack was loose |
| 02:15.11 | Brainy142 | lol |
| 02:15.20 | jaem_N810 | nor did he tell him that he had tried to solder it back on himself |
| 02:15.38 | jaem_N810 | nor that he had never picked up a soldering iron before in his life |
| 02:15.43 | zakkm | heh |
| 02:15.45 | jaem_N810 | it was painful to look at |
| 02:15.48 | Brainy142 | all I have to do Is find out if the Razzonator is going to give a free win ce upgrade or not |
| 02:15.52 | zakkm | i learned to use one in computer engineer :D |
| 02:16.05 | jaem_N810 | anyhow, I'm trying to change the fonts in the gtkrc file for a copy of the Echo theme... |
| 02:16.11 | Brainy142 | our school it = fail |
| 02:16.15 | jaem_N810 | and the font isn't changing... |
| 02:16.15 | zakkm | font changing isnt hard? |
| 02:16.18 | zakkm | do find and replace? |
| 02:16.22 | jaem_N810 | well, it shouldn't be |
| 02:16.33 | zakkm | did you save file, rerun theme |
| 02:16.35 | zakkm | like choose another theme |
| 02:16.36 | jaem_N810 | but is there a specific format for the font name, maybe? |
| 02:16.37 | jaem_N810 | yeah |
| 02:16.37 | Brainy142 | they came into our class and like 3 computer broke for no reason at all |
| 02:16.38 | zakkm | and then choose it again |
| 02:16.47 | jaem_N810 | yeah |
| 02:16.49 | zakkm | clear gtk font cache? |
| 02:16.57 | Brainy142 | and me and my friend are pretty much the regular IT |
| 02:17.04 | jaem_N810 | I was trying to figure out how to do that on Maemo |
| 02:17.09 | jaem_N810 | zakkm: hint? |
| 02:17.20 | Brainy142 | and were just students |
| 02:17.20 | zakkm | uhh |
| 02:17.24 | zakkm | same as ubuntu i would think |
| 02:17.26 | zakkm | ill try googling |
| 02:17.39 | Brainy142 | they guy was using a MAC to try to inspect a windows machiene |
| 02:17.59 | zakkm | gtk-update-font-cache ? |
| 02:18.10 | Brainy142 | and the IT guy hates linux |
| 02:18.11 | jaem_N810 | oh right... |
| 02:18.12 | jaem_N810 | duh |
| 02:18.34 | jaem_N810 | zakkm: not there |
| 02:18.43 | zakkm | uhh no clue |
| 02:18.46 | zakkm | tried rebooting? |
| 02:18.49 | zakkm | you sure you changed right gtkrc? |
| 02:19.07 | Brainy142 | although the mac os is pretty much a fail in itself, it crashed more than our windows computers |
| 02:19.18 | jaem_N810 | zakkm: no, I was getting there, and yes, I am |
| 02:19.29 | jaem_N810 | I'll be right back |
| 02:20.15 | Brainy142 | ok if you wont agree that mac is a fail that at LEAST agree that Itunes is fail |
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| 02:21.29 | zakkm | ITUNES? |
| 02:21.32 | zakkm | itunes is the greatest? |
| 02:21.36 | zakkm | itunes for windows sucks |
| 02:21.39 | zakkm | but itunes for mac = godly |
| 02:22.12 | Brainy142 | lol |
| 02:22.35 | Brainy142 | I myself have used itunes on windows and macs and it fails |
| 02:22.50 | zakkm | no appreciating |
| 02:22.50 | Brainy142 | but I will agree it runs somewhat better on a mac |
| 02:23.12 | Brainy142 | Itunes ran like crap on my windows it was worse than windows media player |
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| 02:23.39 | Brainy142 | I dont even know HOW they accomplished that |
| 02:23.47 | jaem_N810 | zakkm, is there a way to just restart X and friends on the N810 easily? |
| 02:24.00 | Brainy142 | ctrl alt backspace |
| 02:24.02 | jaem_N810 | Brainy142: that *would* be quite a feat |
| 02:24.18 | zakkm | jaem_N810: run killall hildon-desktop |
| 02:24.19 | zakkm | in terminal |
| 02:24.21 | jaem_N810 | Brainy142: I only have two of those keys |
| 02:24.22 | zakkm | as user |
| 02:24.29 | Brainy142 | lol |
| 02:24.36 | zakkm | run killall hildon-desktop |
| 02:24.38 | jaem_N810 | zakkm: I couldn't remember if it would come back up after that. |
| 02:24.40 | jaem_N810 | it does? |
| 02:24.55 | zakkm | i do it all the time ;p |
| 02:24.56 | Brainy142 | Like itunes took like 30 seconds to chance a folder. |
| 02:25.09 | Brainy142 | if that doesn't work just reboot |
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| 02:25.20 | jaem_N810 | okay, thanks |
| 02:25.25 | zakkm | jaem it depends how you set it |
| 02:25.32 | zakkm | if you killall -9 it may not come back |
| 02:25.35 | jaem_N810 | ah |
| 02:25.36 | jaem_N810 | okay |
| 02:25.41 | zakkm | but if you just killall ... hildon will start it up again |
| 02:25.51 | jaem_N810 | thanks :P |
| 02:25.53 | jaem_N810 | bye |
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| 02:26.28 | Brainy142 | one thing I hated about a mac was no fullscreen |
| 02:27.00 | Brainy142 | although hackintoshes are so cool |
| 02:27.23 | Brainy142 | soo funny to see one |
| 02:28.01 | Brainy142 | have a nice day everyone |
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| 06:07.13 | timeless_mbp | "Application '%s' suffered an internal error and had to close." |
| 06:07.23 | timeless_mbp | ok... who hear feels some sympathy for %s? it had to suffer! |
| 06:07.27 | timeless_mbp | s/hear/here/ |
| 06:08.26 | RST38h | *yawn* |
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| 06:16.18 | thux | morning |
| 06:18.16 | timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: ping |
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| 06:21.28 | zakkm | anyone know mpd on maemo? |
| 06:24.56 | Macer | keepin it real in the 2 double oh 9 |
| 06:25.51 | zakkm | ? |
| 06:26.21 | Macer | hi |
| 06:26.21 | zakkm | Macer: can you help me with sonata + mpd please |
| 06:26.35 | Macer | i dont use either |
| 06:27.00 | zakkm | sonata wont read the mpd for the some reason |
| 06:27.23 | zakkm | and if i goto preferences |
| 06:27.27 | zakkm | i cant see it all |
| 06:32.30 | Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: pong, from bus |
| 06:32.53 | timeless_mbp | so, do you want to manage the changelog garbage or should i? |
| 06:33.15 | zakkm | Stskeeps: got sound working :D in mer 0.13 ^^ |
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| 06:34.31 | Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: define changelog garbage |
| 06:34.41 | timeless_mbp | well, if i'm making an en_US package |
| 06:34.45 | timeless_mbp | and my input is en_GB |
| 06:34.59 | timeless_mbp | do you want me to write the changelog thing, or would you magically do it for me :) |
| 06:35.24 | Stskeeps | ah, i guess i can do that |
| 06:36.19 | Stskeeps | right now we focus on the po's i guess, packaging remains unchosen |
| 06:36.24 | timeless_mbp | ok |
| 06:36.31 | timeless_mbp | i'll give you a full thing once just for kicks |
| 06:36.35 | timeless_mbp | (and also because i want to run it!) |
| 06:36.39 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 06:37.27 | zakkm | discovered mer looks so nice setting background to pure black :D |
| 06:37.44 | zakkm | gnome-games works well :D |
| 06:37.45 | zakkm | too |
| 06:38.59 | zakkm | Stskeeps: might i suggest xpdf as the "mer pdf reader" , seems to run very well in mer |
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| 06:40.04 | Stskeeps | xpdf has a interface like old motif days though |
| 06:40.24 | zakkm | but it loads instantly, and low on resources |
| 06:40.50 | zakkm | has scrollbar..and mer adds the nice next page / flip pages and such at bottom |
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| 06:41.11 | zakkm | can write page.. and it will go |
| 06:41.13 | Stskeeps | screenshot? |
| 06:41.16 | zakkm | has zoom at bottom and quit |
| 06:41.34 | zakkm | how do you set time in scrot? |
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| 06:41.52 | Stskeeps | scrot? |
| 06:42.19 | zakkm | screenshot command? |
| 06:42.19 | zakkm | oh wait i think i know |
| 06:42.20 | Stskeeps | use load applet |
| 06:42.28 | zakkm | oh that works? |
| 06:42.43 | zakkm | where does it save it? |
| 06:43.43 | Stskeeps | ~/MyDocs/.images |
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| 06:44.55 | zakkm | Stskeeps: http://i39.tinypic.com/33lnga9.png |
| 06:45.48 | Stskeeps | ugly as sin but functional.. |
| 06:45.56 | zakkm | well its xpdf |
| 06:46.07 | zakkm | forget what toolkit that is |
| 06:46.12 | zakkm | but its the really windowmaker one ;p |
| 06:46.37 | zakkm | yeah but it loads fast, im guessing real low on resources, and the actual UI is pretty good |
| 06:46.44 | zakkm | has quit button too, mer doesnt really have one |
| 06:46.54 | zakkm | it already works. |
| 06:47.02 | RST38h | Looks ok to me |
| 06:47.05 | zakkm | and opens instantly |
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| 06:47.24 | Stskeeps | mer has one in the rightmost x |
| 06:47.25 | zakkm | i dont know i was just thinking what apps to install and then xpdf came to mind and i thought it looked quite nice |
| 06:47.43 | zakkm | i dont see it? |
| 06:47.56 | zakkm | from taskbar button yes but thats too button |
| 06:47.58 | zakkm | two button* |
| 06:48.07 | zakkm | could it be my bad install? |
| 06:48.23 | Stskeeps | the round thing with half circle.. |
| 06:48.32 | zakkm | thats two button closing ;p |
| 06:48.44 | zakkm | but other advantages |
| 06:48.49 | zakkm | especially for 770 people |
| 06:48.53 | zakkm | having xpdf. |
| 06:48.59 | zakkm | cpu , ram wise and such |
| 06:49.27 | Stskeeps | mm |
| 06:49.35 | zakkm | obviously evince would be nicer, or osso-pdf? if thats the name but more resource hungry |
| 06:50.00 | zakkm | just a thought ;) |
| 06:50.18 | zakkm | tetravex is so cool in mer :D ( gnome-games ) |
| 06:50.27 | zakkm | works so perfectly |
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| 06:58.54 | timeless_mbp | grumbles |
| 06:58.58 | timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: so... |
| 06:59.10 | timeless_mbp | fooopy-l10n-public; fooopy-l10n-public-enus1 ? |
| 06:59.15 | timeless_mbp | or foopy-l10n-enus1 ? |
| 06:59.25 | timeless_mbp | (some o's cost extra) |
| 07:20.28 | Macer | hm |
| 07:21.00 | zakkm | hey Macer :D |
| 07:21.12 | zakkm | did that thing work from yesterday? |
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| 07:23.44 | Macer | yeah |
| 07:23.53 | zakkm | wooh :) |
| 07:23.53 | Macer | i watched it. |
| 07:23.57 | Macer | lol |
| 07:23.59 | zakkm | it was good? |
| 07:24.10 | Macer | not as good as it used to be |
| 07:24.23 | zakkm | lol |
| 07:24.24 | zakkm | lost its touch? |
| 07:24.51 | Macer | yeah haha |
| 07:24.58 | Macer | it is too early 90s |
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| 07:25.16 | Macer | where they were doing the transition away from the 80s |
| 07:25.22 | zakkm | :) |
| 07:25.47 | Macer | like highlander the show |
| 07:26.02 | Macer | where the dude wears purple suits haha |
| 07:26.12 | zakkm | :P |
| 07:26.15 | zakkm | never seen that show |
| 07:26.30 | Macer | wow really? highlander was pretty good |
| 07:26.53 | RST38h | Is Highlander still on? |
| 07:27.05 | Macer | hahaha no |
| 07:27.16 | zakkm | i guess im a later generation ? :D |
| 07:27.20 | zakkm | goooo DAWSONS CREEK :D |
| 07:27.34 | Macer | i never watched dawsons creek |
| 07:27.40 | zakkm | ew! |
| 07:27.43 | zakkm | :) |
| 07:27.53 | Macer | that show was for like... 15 yr old suburban white girls |
| 07:28.27 | Macer | like 90210.. where they had 7 years of them in high school |
| 07:28.39 | zakkm | wow dillo in mer :D |
| 07:29.00 | Macer | i should get an n810 |
| 07:29.10 | Macer | is there openoffice for mer? :) |
| 07:29.19 | Macer | with cups support? |
| 07:30.34 | Macer | i was excited because they released androffice for android with openoffice file support |
| 07:30.49 | Macer | until i found out it was just a spreadsheet |
| 07:31.05 | Macer | with "plans to add a word processor soon" |
| 07:31.10 | RST38h | remembers Saved By The Bell |
| 07:31.17 | RST38h | Does it make me an old geezer? |
| 07:31.19 | zakkm | lol |
| 07:31.23 | zakkm | whats wrong with abiword? |
| 07:31.35 | RST38h | it is just a word processor? |
| 07:31.39 | RST38h | it does not quite work? |
| 07:31.46 | zakkm | abiword is word processor |
| 07:31.50 | zakkm | gnumeric is the spreadsheet |
| 07:32.00 | RST38h | you asked about abiword though |
| 07:32.23 | aquatix | abiword is quite nice imho |
| 07:39.27 | wazd | heya maemo |
| 07:39.33 | RST38h | heya wazd |
| 07:39.50 | wazd | http://s41.radikal.ru/i092/0906/6c/7bd0808c80ce.jpg <- what do you think bout folder icons? |
| 07:40.29 | RST38h | not the same as the yellow folder icon on the right side? =) |
| 07:41.07 | Corsac | (is that a mockup or real code?) |
| 07:41.24 | wazd | Corsac: mockup |
| 07:41.50 | wazd | RST38h: well, no :) |
| 07:42.21 | zakkm | deluge in mer - http://i41.tinypic.com/2rrqixj.png |
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| 07:44.23 | RST38h | shit, do not push me this close to installing mer... |
| 07:44.30 | zakkm | ? |
| 07:44.41 | zakkm | RST38h: you dont have mer yet? |
| 07:44.43 | RST38h | it starts looking too good |
| 07:44.53 | RST38h | zakkm: No, I do not really have a need right now |
| 07:44.55 | zakkm | dillo in mer is amazingg :D |
| 07:44.56 | Stskeeps | that's easy mer though |
| 07:45.05 | Stskeeps | for good measure |
| 07:45.08 | zakkm | uh huh of course :) |
| 07:45.13 | zakkm | full screen keyboard :P |
| 07:45.30 | zakkm | Stskeeps: did you look at dillo - http://i41.tinypic.com/2i1eeo.png ? |
| 07:45.38 | zakkm | works really well if only i had a n810 |
| 07:45.51 | Stskeeps | zakkm: yeah |
| 07:46.13 | zakkm | has tabs and all |
| 07:46.16 | zakkm | ahh i want a n810 |
| 07:46.35 | zakkm | Stskeeps: is there a easy way to force popup stylus keyboard? |
| 07:46.43 | zakkm | not matchbox. |
| 07:47.48 | zakkm | Stskeeps: whats so bad about easymer, beside the chroot slowness? |
| 07:48.07 | Stskeeps | zakkm: it shows a battery applet by default and may cheat people into thinking we have it :P |
| 07:48.32 | zakkm | actual mer doesnt have a battery applet? |
| 07:48.33 | zakkm | really? |
| 07:48.49 | Stskeeps | we do, and will soon by default |
| 07:48.50 | zakkm | ah i probably installed advanced one perhaps? |
| 07:48.55 | qwerty12_N810 | Stskeeps: i'm working on getting toggles hald-bme-addon working with apmd today |
| 07:48.56 | Stskeeps | sicne we made a replacement hald-addon-bme |
| 07:49.01 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N810: k |
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| 07:51.16 | Stskeeps | (sounds great) |
| 07:55.33 | zakkm | Stskeeps: easymer is good though, cause it brings in thumb keyboard, for those who hate stylus, and the maemos mplayer, and tear and such |
| 07:55.46 | Stskeeps | mm |
| 07:56.17 | zakkm | also you dont need to mess with partitions |
| 07:56.32 | zakkm | for those who arent techsavvy enough to create partitions and such |
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| 11:46.37 | xnt14[server] | looks through the log... |
| 11:46.45 | xnt14[server] | xpdf? :P |
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| 12:02.14 | RST38h | moo qwerty |
| 12:02.58 | qwerty12_N810 | hey RST38h :) |
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| 12:09.00 | lcuk | RST38h, \o |
| 12:12.49 | RST38h | hey alcuk |
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| 12:21.43 | jeremiah | Jaffa: What is a numpty? =) |
| 12:22.21 | X-Fade | jeremiah: Dude, you are really missing out, if you don't know that! |
| 12:22.43 | X-Fade | jeremiah: http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/numptyphysics/ |
| 12:22.43 | jeremiah | I have no idea. :-/ |
| 12:23.02 | X-Fade | jeremiah: Install it and instantly waste a few hours :) |
| 12:23.04 | jeremiah | I have seen that package, but not downloaded it. |
| 12:23.32 | X-Fade | It is awesome. |
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| 12:23.50 | jeremiah | Wow - sure has positive reviews. |
| 12:23.58 | X-Fade | I played it on the developer device and it was wicked fast and accurate. |
| 12:24.06 | Jaffa | X-Fade: that's not the usage he's referring to |
| 12:24.06 | jeremiah | I will have to download it . . . take it to lunch with me. |
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| 12:24.57 | Jaffa | jeremiah: British slang. Synonyms: plonker, idiot, fool, person who is too rash. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/numpty |
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| 12:28.38 | jeremiah | Jaffa: Ta! |
| 12:29.23 | lbt | Jaffa.... did you see my WONTFIX msg on -devel |
| 12:30.26 | Jaffa | lbt: I did. Good idea. |
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| 12:30.55 | lbt | may want to raise it at some point and track it |
| 12:31.06 | Jaffa | lbt: Not sure how to make it work in practice. Brain has put it on to background processing queue |
| 12:31.56 | lbt | me neither... just a concept that WONTFIX often should really be DISCONTINUED_PRODUCT |
| 12:32.23 | lbt | and in that case we want a handover to community support |
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| 12:33.18 | johnsq | Hi |
| 12:36.39 | jeremiah | Gotta get some lunch . . . |
| 12:38.21 | lbt | jeremiah_lunch: you mean numpty |
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| 12:52.49 | johnsq | mmm with qemu fluxbox compiles, on the n810 not :( |
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| 13:05.01 | lcuk | X-Fade, doesnt the fremantle stars mention a problem with tracking the mouse with numpty? |
| 13:05.03 | lcuk | looks again |
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| 13:05.33 | X-Fade | lcuk: There was what looked like a rendering bug? |
| 13:05.40 | lcuk | http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_Stars |
| 13:05.52 | X-Fade | lcuk: A yellow line at the end of a 'texture'. |
| 13:06.04 | lcuk | dunno, it says " Wrong startup and seems that touch events are wrongly registered" |
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| 13:06.09 | lcuk | maybe the grid got misfilled in |
| 13:06.23 | lcuk | if its playable, thats great news tho! |
| 13:06.34 | lcuk | perhaps whoever added that to the wiki was using something different |
| 13:06.53 | X-Fade | lcuk: I played it at the meeting at least. |
| 13:07.18 | X-Fade | lcuk: And there was no multitasking etc, so exiting was a bit tough ;) |
| 13:07.33 | X-Fade | lcuk: But other than that, not too bad. |
| 13:07.49 | lcuk | heh |
| 13:08.27 | lcuk | X-Fade, i have a partially broken package of the liqbase-playground up now, it managed to pass autobuilder for all 3 distros |
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| 13:08.40 | lcuk | but i had some feedback this morning that the fremantle one wont start from its icon |
| 13:09.03 | X-Fade | lcuk: Desktop file ok? |
| 13:09.05 | lcuk | i know it wont from diablo (tho i dont see why not, it works on my 810 here :S) |
| 13:09.20 | lcuk | i dunno, i managed to crash hildon last night with an evil desktop file |
| 13:09.39 | lcuk | "liqbase-playground" in the osso fields is enough to blow it up! |
| 13:09.52 | lcuk | so i made a tweak, tested on my device and uploaded and it was fine |
| 13:09.59 | lcuk | but ppl with it are saying it wont start from the icon |
| 13:10.33 | lcuk | but it runs from the console lol "liqbase-playground-run.sh" :) |
| 13:11.20 | lcuk | has no hair, is battered and bruised and still its not perfect, but its getting closer :) |
| 13:13.34 | RST38h | and one finger less |
| 13:13.48 | lcuk | no, now the finger has grown back together its LONGER |
| 13:14.10 | lcuk | ive got an evil nail thats almost 2x longer than the others |
| 13:14.18 | lcuk | and the tip has settled all strangely :S |
| 13:14.46 | lcuk | but, its back together and usable |
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| 13:15.22 | Stskeeps | wb |
| 13:15.34 | lcuk | hey gan |
| 13:18.22 | lbt | hey GAN800 how come you don't hang out in #mer? |
| 13:18.59 | lcuk | lbt, he does |
| 13:20.06 | Stskeeps | lbt, mobile to save bw prolly |
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| 13:31.23 | fiferboy | lbt: Have you been able to merge all the qt-maemo branches yet? |
| 13:31.40 | fiferboy | It looks like Antonio has been doing a lot of work on it recently |
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| 13:32.10 | jeremiah_lunch | I've been fooling a little with python and Qt. |
| 13:32.26 | jeremiah_lunch | Cool how quickly and easily you can create little apps |
| 13:32.50 | jeremiah_lunch | Shame about the GIL though. That makes python almost unusable on modern machines. :-( |
| 13:32.59 | lbt | no.. he seems to be still active |
| 13:33.17 | lbt | GIL ? |
| 13:33.34 | jeremiah | GIL : http://blip.tv/file/2232410 |
| 13:33.39 | GAN800 | Maemo is a broken piece of shit, Symbian is a broken piece of shit, Ubuntu is a broken piece of shit, OS X is a broken piece of shit. It's apparently impossible to produce a half way decent piece of software. |
| 13:33.45 | GAN800 | I hate computers so much. |
| 13:33.52 | b-man16 | rofl |
| 13:33.57 | jeremiah | Well, you're in the right business! |
| 13:34.17 | lbt | GAN800 is now known as Marvin |
| 13:34.18 | jeremiah | GAN800: Try debian. :P |
| 13:34.42 | jaska | should train some colon bacteria to develop software, get more shit faster |
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| 13:34.49 | GAN800 | ICD dies, so a restart is required to regain connectivity. Which, of course, messes up the phone so you also have to restart that. |
| 13:34.53 | GAN800 | sighs. |
| 13:36.48 | lcuk | GAN800, maybe the problem was the phone all along |
| 13:37.06 | lcuk | unless its a nokia one |
| 13:37.19 | lcuk | in which case the problem was the proximity to a bookstore with shit on the walls |
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| 13:46.49 | lcuk | jeremiah, you say the gil causes it to be unusable on modern machines, isnt python quite a widely used language now? |
| 13:47.55 | Stskeeps | in terms of threading |
| 13:48.38 | lcuk | yeah, but thats because you are using a toy language to do a grown up job lol |
| 13:48.39 | lcuk | ;) |
| 13:48.46 | lcuk | is flamebait |
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| 13:49.57 | lcuk | Stskeeps, seriously thou, is it bad enough to prevent running simple apps like jeremiah suggests.. |
| 13:50.27 | lcuk | my thinking with python was its quick simple binding language, works but dont expect perf beyond what the c libs underlying it can give |
| 13:51.05 | GAN800 | hates assholes who stick business cards in books. |
| 13:51.19 | b-man16 | heh |
| 13:51.35 | Razumihin | I think they're pretty good bookmarks :) |
| 13:51.38 | lcuk | GAN800, you are a bundle of joy today |
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| 13:51.44 | Razumihin | I use receipts also ;) |
| 13:52.29 | b-man16 | waits for gentoo to finish installing packages |
| 13:52.48 | lcuk | turns down the corners |
| 13:53.04 | lcuk | i especially do it when im reading in the book store |
| 13:53.10 | GAN800 | lcuk, somebody scrambled the room I'm trying to inventory. |
| 13:53.14 | lcuk | but i hate going back a few days later and my book has been moved |
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| 13:53.22 | lcuk | i have to keep reading the same bits over and over |
| 13:53.46 | GAN800 | Razumihin, these folks are looking for free advertising. Besides, we give away free bookmarks here. ;) |
| 13:54.06 | GAN800 | Dog earing is evil. |
| 13:54.13 | lcuk | GAN800, tracy used to maintain the delivery and stock for a large bookstore in uk, random assorted inventory stacked to the ceiling was quite common |
| 13:54.28 | lcuk | (or so i hear) |
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| 13:55.06 | lcuk | picks up a crime thriller book |
| 13:55.14 | lcuk | browses whilst walking |
| 13:55.27 | lcuk | puts it back in the atlas section |
| 13:56.27 | b-man16 | xD |
| 13:56.34 | fiferboy | lbt: I finally got the the link stage on QWebKit, and it couldn't start it because I hadn't compile the phonon libraries yet! |
| 13:56.44 | lbt | heh |
| 13:57.26 | fiferboy | Now I have to go through sql, qscript, etc before the dpkg-buildpackage gets to 3rdparty |
| 13:57.56 | Razumihin | GAN800: :) |
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| 14:04.32 | lcuk | lbt / fiferboy why on earth do you guys spend sooooo long recompiling each piece multiple times, isnt half this stuff prebuilt and modularized? |
| 14:04.53 | lbt | we don't ... make handles it |
| 14:05.10 | lbt | but the linking is pretty heavy-duty |
| 14:05.18 | lbt | and in emulation it's slow |
| 14:05.19 | fiferboy | lcuk: I don't generally recompile the entire source after a change, it's just my old method would not link webkit so I had to start over in qemu |
| 14:05.27 | lbt | Qt isn't small |
| 14:06.04 | lcuk | i know its not small, but all these heavy duty libraries sound like hard work |
| 14:06.24 | lcuk | for instance, i can link to sqlite and other libs eassily |
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| 14:07.30 | fiferboy | Qt's sql module allows you to link to sqlite, mysql, etc using virtually the exact same code. |
| 14:07.54 | fiferboy | You can even connect to different sql backends from a single application with a couple of settings in the app. |
| 14:08.10 | lcuk | yeah fiferboy - i get that in windows with oledb etc |
| 14:08.13 | fiferboy | Have it use sqlite on the device, but also connect to a mysql server to copy/backup your work |
| 14:08.50 | fiferboy | But the qt sql module will use almost all of the features of each database driver without having the limitations of a generic interface |
| 14:09.59 | lcuk | (for instance) what if i used advanced distributed transactions only available in sql server, they would fail with other dbms's tho |
| 14:10.28 | fiferboy | If the db driver supports transactions you can use them, if it doesn't it will still work (just without transactions) |
| 14:10.52 | fiferboy | You can also query what features the db driver you are using supports, and handle them differently if you need to. |
| 14:11.54 | lcuk | yeah - thats the same with oledb, but if i call a transaction method on a non transaction aware backend errors are raised (for very good reason) |
| 14:12.12 | lcuk | or if the backend supports it but i open it in the wrong way |
| 14:12.54 | lcuk | was just theoretical anyway, doesnt matter - i agree qt is wonderful in its crossplatformedness |
| 14:13.02 | fiferboy | Things will also be handled differently for drivers (like sqlite) that don't return how many rows a query has and drivers that do support that |
| 14:13.04 | lcuk | i just think its heavy duty hearing about all the rebuilding |
| 14:13.25 | fiferboy | Definitely too heavy to want to do a daily compile :) |
| 14:13.45 | lcuk | yeah but wouldnt the .so for sqlite from yeasterday work |
| 14:14.05 | fiferboy | Yes. But I had to start the build from scratch. |
| 14:14.16 | fiferboy | Once the first build is over, I will just rebuild the library I need |
| 14:14.32 | fiferboy | Unfortunately, the library I need it the one that take 1.3 GB (or something) to link |
| 14:15.52 | lcuk | holy .... the kernel and most of maemo as a whole including all libs takes less than that! |
| 14:16.16 | jeremiah | lcuk: Yeah, python is used everywhere. But it runs slower on dual core than on single core. |
| 14:16.29 | fiferboy | And it is not really Qts fault, it is the webkit module that uses the same webkit (with qt interface) as other browsers |
| 14:16.30 | jeremiah | That is a huge problem going forward |
| 14:17.05 | jeremiah | Especially since even cell phone processors will be multi-core starting next year |
| 14:17.16 | lcuk | heh jeremiah just wait until each single core in a dualy is faster than a single now |
| 14:17.19 | lcuk | then you cant complain |
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| 14:17.34 | jeremiah | lcuk: The problem is python's implementation of threads |
| 14:17.42 | jeremiah | That is big and hairy. |
| 14:17.47 | lcuk | jeremiah, something was lost in the mysts of time, it used to be expected for apps to share the workload around different co-processors |
| 14:17.52 | X-Fade | jeremiah: Most problems in python are not cpu related. |
| 14:18.08 | X-Fade | jeremiah: It is the huge io cost of starting python with all libs. |
| 14:18.08 | jeremiah | But the GIL! |
| 14:18.24 | X-Fade | Once it is running, it is mostly ok. |
| 14:18.28 | jeremiah | That is the big, big problem. |
| 14:18.37 | jeremiah | It does not scale to multi-core! |
| 14:18.42 | X-Fade | jeremiah: As is with every interpreter. |
| 14:18.52 | jeremiah | Its threading calls are just out to C and pthreads |
| 14:19.07 | jeremiah | The internals are ten years old. |
| 14:19.16 | jeremiah | And Guido has no interest in updating them |
| 14:19.25 | jeremiah | http://blip.tv/file/2232410 |
| 14:19.31 | jeremiah | You gotta read that ^^ |
| 14:19.36 | jeremiah | Amazing. |
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| 14:21.25 | Stskeeps | pypy |
| 14:21.36 | lcuk | omg, its penguinbait, quick, hide |
| 14:21.42 | lcuk | put all the contraband away |
| 14:21.57 | penguinbait | I love contrband ;) |
| 14:22.00 | b-man16 | hay penguinbait :D |
| 14:22.16 | lcuk | hiya pb \o |
| 14:22.28 | penguinbait | howdy ! |
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| 14:23.45 | penguinbait | so who's gonna share the contraband |
| 14:24.13 | lcuk | gan has a stack of business cards im sure he would unload on you |
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| 14:24.36 | ifvoid | hi |
| 14:24.43 | b-man16 | xDDDX |
| 14:24.44 | ifvoid | isn't gdb available for maemo? |
| 14:25.03 | jeremiah | Two CPU-bound threads ~3.3 Million Mach System calls. |
| 14:25.16 | jeremiah | ifvoid: If it isn't in -devel it should be in the SDK |
| 14:25.29 | qwerty12_N810 | ifvoid: http://maemo.org/development/tools/ |
| 14:25.47 | ifvoid | ah |
| 14:26.27 | ifvoid | hm |
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| 14:26.45 | ifvoid | http://repository.maemo.org/pool/diablo/free/g/gdb/ |
| 14:26.45 | ifvoid | hm |
| 14:26.55 | lcuk | jeremiah, what are you wasting all those cycles to do? |
| 14:27.08 | ifvoid | I wonder why my apt-get doesn;t pick that up |
| 14:27.32 | jeremiah | ifvoid: Is it in your sources.list? Did you do an apt-get update? |
| 14:27.37 | ifvoid | jup |
| 14:27.43 | ifvoid | deb http://repository.maemo.org/ diablo free non-free |
| 14:27.49 | ifvoid | that should do the tric, right? |
| 14:27.55 | jeremiah | lcuk: That is a benchmark of python |
| 14:28.51 | jeremiah | ifvoid: I don't see it physically on garage (i.e. in diablo) |
| 14:29.21 | X-Fade | jeremiah: it is in the sdk tools repo. |
| 14:29.42 | X-Fade | jeremiah: Which you don't see. |
| 14:29.44 | ifvoid | ah, it's in tools/free |
| 14:29.45 | ifvoid | I see |
| 14:30.03 | ifvoid | now it works |
| 14:30.04 | ifvoid | thanks! |
| 14:30.09 | jeremiah | Yeah, the package that qwerty12_N810 gave you ifvoid shows you how to install |
| 14:30.26 | jeremiah | sorry, not the package, the URL |
| 14:30.59 | lcuk | jeremiah, depends what syscalls i suppose but im happy with c |
| 14:31.51 | jeremiah | C is okay - but you have to write so much code for so little functionality. And you have to have a nasty toolchain which you hope is identical on the target |
| 14:32.49 | fiferboy | That's why I code in cobol |
| 14:33.02 | jeremiah | Stskeeps: How does pypy handle threading? |
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| 14:33.07 | derf | As opposed to Python, where I have to upgrade half the packages in my distro to install a 100 line script? |
| 14:33.25 | jeremiah | derf: Well, you have a point. :) |
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| 14:35.15 | lcuk | lol |
| 14:35.20 | amr | someone needs to make a good bejewled clone |
| 14:35.21 | amr | :p |
| 14:35.41 | lcuk | jeremiah, if it wasnt for the evil debian/ side of things, it would be really easy to get working in c |
| 14:35.55 | jeremiah | yeah, blame debian. |
| 14:36.10 | lcuk | :D |
| 14:36.16 | jeremiah | lcuk: Can I have a hit off of your crack pipe? |
| 14:36.27 | lcuk | i know gnu is eviler for some things, but for the right reasons in both |
| 14:37.09 | lcuk | jeremiah, course, i am serious abut native c dev, and have worked perfectly happily for months on device with it |
| 14:37.35 | lcuk | if i could just copy the source folder to you and make it run i would prefer it |
| 14:37.49 | lcuk | that way your barrier of entry is lower too |
| 14:37.51 | jeremiah | lcuk: :) |
| 14:37.54 | lcuk | cos the devkit is part of the install |
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| 14:39.02 | lcuk | wont even mention wiki style code editing and distribution ;) |
| 14:39.20 | b-man16 | hehe |
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| 14:55.13 | jeremiah | Jaffa: ping |
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| 15:20.47 | Jaffa | jeremiah: pong, but just running out to a meeting |
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| 15:23.22 | lbt | jeremiah: http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build/UsingGitorious |
| 15:23.42 | lbt | now with extra screenshots... |
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| 15:56.23 | GAN800 | andre__, ping? |
| 15:58.19 | andre__ | GAN800, pong |
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| 16:19.49 | xnt14 | ~seen b-man16 |
| 16:19.54 | infobot | b-man16 <n=b-man@pool-71-124-32-204.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 1h 40m 34s ago, saying: 'hehe'. |
| 16:20.00 | xnt14 | :P |
| 16:20.11 | xnt14 | just got back from english exams, soooo easy |
| 16:24.10 | GAN800 | andre__, any template progress? |
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| 16:29.32 | xnt14 | %unision_server("remote:on") |
| 16:29.41 | xnt14[server] | remote ip activated |
| 16:29.57 | xnt14 | $apt-get upgrade |
| 16:30.03 | xnt14[server] | sending... |
| 16:30.05 | xnt14 | done |
| 16:30.08 | xnt14 | %unision_server("remote:off") |
| 16:30.24 | xnt14 | upgraded my remote backup server :) |
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| 16:33.43 | timeless_mbp | frowns |
| 16:33.53 | timeless_mbp | GAN800: so, i've got a preliminary locale set |
| 16:34.17 | xnt14 | :P |
| 16:35.04 | timeless_mbp | sighs |
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| 16:36.29 | xnt14 | %exec["ssh xceleo.com -c "echo hello | write bman17""]; |
| 16:36.40 | xnt14[server] | output: no user bman17 |
| 16:36.43 | xnt14 | oops |
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| 16:53.15 | timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: so um... |
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| 17:16.46 | xnt14 | %version |
| 17:17.14 | xnt14 | xd wrong term, I am starting to hate ssh |
| 17:17.27 | xnt14 | %discipline |
| 17:17.55 | xnt14 | %stop task=discipline |
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| 17:19.12 | b-man16 | %version |
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| 17:19.31 | b-man16 | hm |
| 17:19.50 | xnt14 | :P |
| 17:19.54 | xnt14[server] | version: unision version 1.0 private beta |
| 17:19.57 | b-man16 | %say hello |
| 17:19.57 | xnt14[server] | bad server! bad server! bad server!... |
| 17:20.00 | xnt14[server] | b-man16, version: unision version 1.0 private beta |
| 17:20.07 | xnt14[server] | say: hello |
| 17:20.11 | b-man16 | lol |
| 17:20.15 | xnt14 | wtf? |
| 17:20.20 | xnt14 | stupid bugs |
| 17:20.31 | xnt14 | this is what happens if I try to write my own bot :P |
| 17:21.02 | b-man16 | XDDD |
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| 17:21.15 | xnt14 | %cmd ls /xs |
| 17:21.17 | xnt14[server] | admin apps broadcastinfo locksc message shell system user |
| 17:21.29 | xnt14 | awesome the ls command works :P |
| 17:21.35 | xnt14 | well the %cmd |
| 17:21.43 | xnt14 | direct entry to bash |
| 17:21.58 | xnt14 | now to secure it from outsiders |
| 17:22.25 | xnt14 | %acl_set cmd="%cmd" id=19 |
| 17:22.31 | xnt14[server] | Secured |
| 17:22.40 | xnt14 | %join #unision |
| 17:23.44 | xnt14 | %irc channel="unision" say="Hello!" |
| 17:23.51 | xnt14 | :) |
| 17:24.02 | timeless_mbp | b-man16: ping |
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| 17:24.11 | xnt14 | hides |
| 17:24.18 | xnt14 | %lockdown |
| 17:24.23 | b-man16 | can't stop laughing |
| 17:24.23 | b-man16 | finally stops xD |
| 17:24.43 | xnt14[server] | Lockdown Initiated |
| 17:24.55 | xnt14 | damn buggy bot |
| 17:25.16 | xnt14 | now try a %cmd rm / |
| 17:25.45 | xnt14 | if It rm's my root drive I'll Give you my n810 ;) |
| 17:25.48 | inz | xnt14, don't damn the product, damn the creator... oh wait... |
| 17:25.53 | b-man16 | timeless_mbp: pong |
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| 17:26.09 | xnt14 | inz: :P |
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| 17:27.56 | b-man16 | %say "hello" |
| 17:28.16 | xnt14[server] | b-man16, Sorry Lockdown is in effect |
| 17:28.22 | b-man16 | rofl |
| 17:28.32 | xnt14 | Yes!!! It works :) |
| 17:28.48 | xnt14 | %cmd su |
| 17:28.58 | xnt14[server] | Segmentation Fault |
| 17:29.04 | xnt14 | NOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 17:29.05 | b-man16 | lol |
| 17:29.13 | lcuk | if i do "make; make install" is there a variation which can remove it again |
| 17:29.44 | xnt14 | restarts unisionbot |
| 17:29.55 | xnt14 | %pipe tty5 |
| 17:29.59 | xnt14[server] | Done |
| 17:30.36 | lcuk | %pipe /dev/null |
| 17:30.40 | lcuk | tries |
| 17:30.59 | xnt14[server] | lcuk: um, make clean /*? |
| 17:30.59 | b-man16 | %say "Hi, lcuk!!" |
| 17:31.07 | xnt14[server] | say: Hi, lcuk |
| 17:31.12 | b-man16 | lol |
| 17:31.15 | xnt14[server] | lcuk, please wait |
| 17:31.32 | xnt14 | %stop task="%pipe" |
| 17:31.43 | lcuk | make clean /* will not try to remove the extra stuff not built tho |
| 17:31.47 | xnt14 | %response id="789200" |
| 17:31.55 | lcuk | ie i never remove the /media files inserted into the .deb |
| 17:32.15 | fiferboy | make uninstall should remove the files copied during install |
| 17:32.18 | xnt14[server] | output: /dev/null: no such file or directory |
| 17:32.27 | fiferboy | Not sure if it needs a separate rule in the makefile, though |
| 17:32.39 | lcuk | yeah fiferboy, i think it will need one |
| 17:32.45 | b-man16 | %killall |
| 17:32.53 | lcuk | but if thats the standard syntax ill see about adding one, thanks |
| 17:33.01 | fiferboy | I've always used autotools for my makefiles ;) |
| 17:33.07 | b-man16 | %pstree |
| 17:33.50 | xnt14 | unisionbot automatically querys output to you if its more than 2 lines |
| 17:34.51 | xnt14 | crap!!! unisionbot Is running as root o.0 |
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| 17:35.02 | xnt14 | %setuid 2201 |
| 17:35.17 | xnt14[server] | success |
| 17:35.27 | xnt14 | %cmd whoami |
| 17:35.33 | xnt14[server] | output: xnt |
| 17:36.02 | b-man16 | %cmd echo hello, world!! |
| 17:36.22 | xnt14[server] | output: echo hello, |
| 17:36.31 | xnt14 | bug....again.... |
| 17:36.48 | xnt14 | the exclamation marks... |
| 17:37.13 | b-man16 | %cmd echo "hello, world" |
| 17:37.16 | xnt14 | %me says hello |
| 17:37.18 | xnt14[server] | says hello |
| 17:37.21 | GeneralAntilles | xnt14, enough. |
| 17:37.21 | xnt14 | :) |
| 17:37.25 | xnt14 | GA: ok |
| 17:37.29 | GeneralAntilles | xnt14, take it to a private channel. |
| 17:37.48 | xnt14 | wait, I thought the bot abuse only counted on infobot? |
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| 17:38.10 | GeneralAntilles | Spam is spam |
| 17:38.17 | xnt14 | ok |
| 17:38.24 | GeneralAntilles | Most people don't appreciate the non-bot spam we generate in here. |
| 17:38.26 | xnt14 | goes to #unision |
| 17:38.45 | xnt14 | let me just tell it to mute this channel |
| 17:38.51 | xnt14 | %mute #maemo |
| 17:38.53 | xnt14 | ok done |
| 17:39.13 | xnt14 | now it won't listen to this channel or say anything :) |
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| 17:59.52 | lbt | lcuk: there is rarely an effective make uninstall |
| 18:00.25 | timeless_mbp | pokes Stskeeps |
| 18:01.04 | lcuk | lbt - dpkg manages it |
| 18:01.10 | lbt | lcuk try http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/60383 |
| 18:01.16 | lcuk | and since a .deb is built up from running make install |
| 18:02.00 | lbt | it's not actually :) |
| 18:02.16 | lbt | it's built by fooling make install and then doing it properly |
| 18:02.29 | lbt | hence all the fakeroot trickery etc etc... |
| 18:02.34 | lcuk | well if you remove the list of files from the make install section then it wont do it ;) |
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| 18:06.31 | coldboot | When building Qt in Scratchbox 2, I get this error: /home/nhooey/code/oss/qt-x11/bin/moc: /home/nhooey/.maemo-sdk/rootstraps/i386/diablo4.1.2_i386/lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6) |
| 18:06.59 | coldboot | This is from within the runtime, by typing `maemo-sdk enter runtime'. |
| 18:07.58 | coldboot | `sb2 -e make` and `sb2 make` also render the same error. |
| 18:08.23 | coldboot | How would Qt's build system know about the .maemo-sdk directory for scratchbox? |
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| 18:32.02 | coldboot | How do you use fakeroot from within sb2? |
| 18:34.58 | thopiekar | hi coldboot.. I'm sorry that nobody is responsing.. I can't help you as well because I use sb1 just sometimes for simple builds.. |
| 18:35.21 | coldboot | It seems like nobody uses scratchbox 2. |
| 18:35.25 | fiferboy | I've never used sb2, and I haven't heard a whole lot of success stories here |
| 18:35.30 | thopiekar | true :P |
| 18:36.05 | fiferboy | coldboot: I am building Qt4 using qemu right now. It is slow, but it seems to be working. |
| 18:36.29 | coldboot | fiferboy: How did you use qemu? What did you do? |
| 18:36.57 | fiferboy | http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build |
| 18:37.08 | fiferboy | I followed the instructions on that page |
| 18:38.13 | coldboot | Why are you using something to do with OpenSUSE? |
| 18:38.44 | fiferboy | The OpenSUSE build service is what Mer uses to build its packages |
| 18:39.15 | fiferboy | It makes it easy to build a package for a different architecture either locally or (I think) remotely |
| 18:41.29 | fiferboy | The istructions on that Mer wiki page are really good to get you up and running |
| 18:43.29 | coldboot | I have to build Qt for sb2 because I'm tracking down a Qt bug that only manifests on sb2 and on the nokia device. |
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| 18:43.55 | coldboot | Yeah, sb2 has a lot of problems, it's a pain in the ass. |
| 18:44.24 | fiferboy | You can build with OpenSUSE build service then transfer the libraries or install the debs on the device |
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| 18:52.00 | xnt14 | testing 123 |
| 18:52.14 | xnt14 | guys that is me testing my irc client |
| 18:52.20 | xnt14 | based off of http://tools.suckless.org/sic |
| 18:52.39 | xnt14 | and sending messages doesn't work :( |
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| 18:53.01 | xnt14 | but that works :P |
| 18:56.57 | FireFox | lol |
| 18:56.57 | FireFox | runs ii |
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| 18:59.17 | DavidePalm | hey is there a C++ compiler for the N800? |
| 18:59.28 | Corsac | g++ ? |
| 18:59.34 | DavidePalm | sure |
| 18:59.40 | DavidePalm | is it available? |
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| 19:02.30 | timeless_mbp | in the repositories... |
| 19:02.56 | DavidePalm | timeless_mbp what is it called? what repository is it in? |
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| 19:05.29 | johnsq | Hi |
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| 19:06.38 | thopiekar | DavidePalm: you can install it with the maemo-cplusplus-device-env package in your app manager.. |
| 19:07.09 | thopiekar | * hopefully :P |
| 19:07.17 | DavidePalm | oh wow idk how I missed it :P |
| 19:07.20 | DavidePalm | thanks installing right now |
| 19:07.27 | DavidePalm | I was looking for + |
| 19:07.30 | DavidePalm | not plus |
| 19:07.30 | thopiekar | no problem |
| 19:07.30 | DavidePalm | lol |
| 19:07.38 | thopiekar | :P |
| 19:07.46 | DavidePalm | so is this command line based? |
| 19:07.58 | thopiekar | think so.. |
| 19:08.02 | DavidePalm | kk |
| 19:08.10 | thopiekar | has to leave now.. |
| 19:08.12 | thopiekar | cu! |
| 19:08.17 | DavidePalm | thanks much! |
| 19:08.32 | thopiekar | np :P |
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| 19:14.14 | xnt15 | Hello, Everyone. Im writing this via an echo command on the terminal |
| 19:14.32 | xnt14 | :) |
| 19:18.37 | coldboot | I'm writing this from a satellite that I've ssh'd to. |
| 19:19.27 | DavidePalm | anyone use Cpp compiler on the tablet? |
| 19:19.32 | DavidePalm | or C compiler |
| 19:19.40 | johnsq | DavidePalm: yes why? |
| 19:19.42 | xnt14 | xD |
| 19:20.11 | DavidePalm | johnsq I'm noob at this.. trying to figure out how to use it... I've just started an intro to C/C++ class so I know nothing.. |
| 19:20.12 | Luke-Jr | DavidePalm: I compiled my tablet's entire OS on my tablet. |
| 19:20.18 | xnt14 | DavidePalm, b-man compiles LFS(linux from scratch) on his tablet |
| 19:20.19 | DavidePalm | was wondering if I could use the tablet for it |
| 19:20.34 | xnt14 | apt-get install gcc? |
| 19:20.41 | DavidePalm | oh gcc? |
| 19:20.55 | DavidePalm | I installed this maemo-cplusplus-device-env |
| 19:21.00 | Luke-Jr | johnsq: we can hijack this channel :D |
| 19:21.41 | DavidePalm | Package gcc is not available, but is referred to by another package... |
| 19:22.18 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: okay, I have complete gentoo compiled and upto date, console is running |
| 19:22.28 | DavidePalm | so do I have what I need already? with maemo-cplusplus-device-env? johnsq Luke-Jr |
| 19:22.39 | Luke-Jr | DavidePalm: we both use Gentoo, not Maemo or Mer |
| 19:22.49 | DavidePalm | oh |
| 19:22.53 | Luke-Jr | johnsq: ok |
| 19:22.55 | DavidePalm | =/ |
| 19:23.02 | DavidePalm | so I cant do this? |
| 19:23.05 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: ts-lib-999 from overlay didn't compile some file is missing in the svn. |
| 19:23.25 | Luke-Jr | johnsq: can you pastebin the error? |
| 19:23.28 | DavidePalm | I have easy debian |
| 19:23.33 | Luke-Jr | DavidePalm: probably can |
| 19:23.44 | Luke-Jr | DavidePalm: but as far as packages goes, you'll need to ask someone else I think |
| 19:23.48 | johnsq | DavidePalm: sorry can't help, but i have seen a gcc package for maemo |
| 19:23.57 | Luke-Jr | DavidePalm: unless you want to install Gentoo XD |
| 19:24.04 | DavidePalm | all right... any chance you know what repository it's in? |
| 19:24.06 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: I know the error. A file is missing. |
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| 19:24.11 | DavidePalm | Luke-Jr how easy is it to install gentoo? |
| 19:24.27 | Luke-Jr | DavidePalm: about as easy as on a desktop machine |
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| 19:24.42 | Luke-Jr | johnsq: whatever info you might know, you're not telling me much :þ |
| 19:25.02 | DavidePalm | Luke-Jr, how much space would I need, and whould I have to wipe out everything else? |
| 19:25.07 | xnt15 | hello |
| 19:25.13 | Luke-Jr | DavidePalm: I recommend an 8 GB SD card |
| 19:25.29 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: sorry. i'm typing slow. ts-lib from genotoo didn't work, have you xserver running? |
| 19:25.37 | Luke-Jr | johnsq: yes |
| 19:25.44 | Luke-Jr | johnsq: what file is missing? |
| 19:25.44 | qwerty12_N810 | recommends allocating a lot of time too |
| 19:25.51 | DavidePalm | xnt15 are you related to xnt14? :P |
| 19:26.00 | xnt14 | um yes |
| 19:26.21 | xnt14 | I'm writing my "custom" irc client |
| 19:26.24 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: moment, must search it together. |
| 19:26.25 | xnt14 | and thats my test acc |
| 19:26.32 | DavidePalm | Luke-Jr I might ask you for some about that when I have more time :) thanks for your suggerstions guys |
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| 19:26.53 | xnt15 | Im testing xnt-irc-client xD |
| 19:27.19 | DavidePalm | all right gtg |
| 19:27.20 | DavidePalm | :) |
| 19:27.30 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: you can forget, svn from ts-lib got the missing file 3hours ago. |
| 19:28.18 | Luke-Jr | O.o |
| 19:28.22 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: With gentoo the touchpad isn't working mouse is at wrong position, i hope with svn version it is better. |
| 19:29.21 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: man package from gentoo have missing keywords, i just forced arm :), hope they are working. fe. fuse rxvt-unicode. |
| 19:29.32 | johnsq | s/man/many/ |
| 19:29.52 | Luke-Jr | you mean forced x86? |
| 19:30.20 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: no I add them to /etc/package.keywords |
| 19:30.38 | Luke-Jr | doing that won't help missing keywords unless you add them as x86 |
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| 19:31.31 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: I use >=sys-fs/fuse-2.7.4 ** |
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| 19:32.32 | Luke-Jr | johnsq: oh, very bad |
| 19:32.52 | Luke-Jr | I would do: sys-fs/fuse x86 |
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| 19:35.21 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: okay next goal xserver with fluxbox and rxvt |
| 19:35.43 | coldboot | It seems fakeroot won't work in Scratchbox 2, even if you build it from source. |
| 19:35.49 | coldboot | Is there another way to dpkg-buildpackage? |
| 19:37.22 | timeless_mbp | https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/mica-devel/2009-February/000613.html ? |
| 19:39.19 | timeless_mbp | http://osdir.com/ml/compilers.scratchbox.devel/2007-01/msg00000.html |
| 19:39.22 | timeless_mbp | odd |
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| 19:54.13 | jeremiah | coldboot: Yeah, you can create packages a number of ways. |
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| 19:54.26 | jeremiah | coldboot: debuild, dh-make |
| 19:54.48 | jeremiah | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.55 | lbt | jeremiah.... http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build/UsingGitorious |
| 19:54.58 | jeremiah | Are you using -rfakeroot? |
| 19:55.07 | jeremiah | lbt: Cool! |
| 19:55.27 | jeremiah | Awesome. |
| 19:55.27 | lbt | http://wiki.maemo.org/images/d/d8/Mer-lbt-gitk-glib.png |
| 19:56.04 | jeremiah | Its not complicated enough for me, can you add some more source trees? |
| 19:56.06 | jeremiah | kthx! |
| 19:56.07 | lbt | http://wiki.maemo.org/images/8/8b/Mer-lbt-gitk-him.png |
| 19:56.45 | lbt | actually I'm hoping it is fairly simple... |
| 19:56.52 | lbt | and you's an expert... |
| 19:57.09 | lbt | so I would *really* appreciate some review and feedback :) |
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| 19:57.43 | lbt | admittedly there are a *lot* of interconnected simple things.... which makes it complex |
| 19:59.41 | jeremiah | I's no expert. But I will clone the repo |
| 19:59.49 | jeremiah | And check it out. |
| 20:00.15 | jeremiah | Can I turn it into an iso and then boot it in virtual box or what is one doing these days? |
| 20:00.53 | qwerty12_N810 | I just use the vmdk directly :P |
| 20:00.59 | lbt | this is just a library using vcs-pkg type stuff |
| 20:01.24 | lbt | so you can do it in Debian |
| 20:01.27 | lbt | (I do) |
| 20:03.43 | jeremiah | qwerty12_N810: Is there a vmdk? cool |
| 20:04.57 | qwerty12_N810 | yep, at http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Releases/0.14 :) |
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| 20:07.15 | jeremiah | lbt: Is there just a simple URL to clone from? |
| 20:07.59 | FireFox | Luke-jr: i'm having a problem with layman - could you help? |
| 20:08.23 | johnsq | FireFox: what? |
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| 20:09.13 | lbt | http://gitorious.org/~lbt/mer/glib2_0-mer |
| 20:09.22 | lbt | oops |
| 20:09.28 | FireFox | i've added the n8x0 overlay but portage cant find it |
| 20:09.33 | lbt | http://gitorious.org/mer/hildon-input-method |
| 20:09.52 | johnsq | FireFox: layman -a n8x0 then you must add source ... to make.conf. |
| 20:09.56 | lbt | then that tells you : git clone git://gitorious.org/mer/hildon-input-method.git |
| 20:10.03 | FireFox | i did |
| 20:10.22 | johnsq | FireFox: than emerge -pv n8x0-env should work |
| 20:10.35 | FireFox | ok thanks :) |
| 20:12.41 | FireFox | emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "n8x0-env". |
| 20:12.43 | FireFox | hmm |
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| 20:13.06 | johnsq | FireFox: /usr/locale/portage/layman should exist |
| 20:13.40 | FireFox | it does |
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| 20:14.10 | johnsq | FireFox: and /usr/local/portage/layman/n8x0/ |
| 20:14.53 | FireFox | it's there |
| 20:14.55 | Proteous | FireFox: and /usr/local/johnsq/pr0n/thegoodstuff/ |
| 20:15.23 | FireFox | rofl |
| 20:15.33 | johnsq | hehe its on network /mnt/p0rn/ |
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| 20:17.32 | FireFox | anyways, any idea of why i have this problem? |
| 20:18.55 | johnsq | FireFox: sorry no. layman -i n8x0 shows nice thing? layman -S does an update? |
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| 20:20.28 | FireFox | yup |
| 20:20.50 | solarion | alsa does more than 2 channel-audio, right? |
| 20:21.03 | zakkm | solarion: as support, yes |
| 20:21.23 | solarion | zakkm: "as support"? What do you mean? |
| 20:21.36 | zakkm | alsa supports more than 2 channel. |
| 20:21.39 | solarion | specifically, I'm framing a response for an amd guy at http://blogs.amd.com/home/2009/06/16/turning-it-up-to-11/comment-page-1/#comment-224) |
| 20:22.08 | solarion | It looks like perhaps he is saying that the current amd maui driver only does 2 channels, but later he says "Once we can move beyond 2 ch. of audio in Linux" |
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| 20:23.05 | johnsq | FireFox: you can give the complete path to emerge. emerge -pv /usr/local/portage/layman/n8x0/sys-apps/n8x0-env/n8x0-env-0.4.ebuild |
| 20:23.21 | FireFox | ok |
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| 20:26.20 | FireFox | "!!! /usr/local/portage/layman/n8x0/sys-apps/n8x0-env/n8x0-env-0.4.ebuild is not in a valid portage tree hierarchy or does not exist" |
| 20:26.22 | FireFox | hmm |
| 20:26.31 | FireFox | it exists |
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| 20:27.36 | johnsq | FireFox: sure that source /usr/local/portage/layman/make.conf is the last line in make.conf? |
| 20:29.21 | FireFox | ah, wait it, it got commented out |
| 20:29.24 | FireFox | fixes it xD |
| 20:29.34 | zakkm | eww portage? |
| 20:29.41 | zakkm | ah wait nevermind ] |
| 20:29.44 | johnsq | FireFox: the first I said :> |
| 20:29.46 | zakkm | was thinking of something else |
| 20:29.53 | zakkm | adding overlays? |
| 20:30.10 | johnsq | n8x0 overlay |
| 20:30.25 | zakkm | layman isnt that hard to ouse |
| 20:30.35 | zakkm | layman -a ___ layman -s then emerge |
| 20:30.56 | zakkm | gentoo on tablet is worth it? |
| 20:32.08 | johnsq | zakkm: no, but archlinux was too hard and debian haven't i used since years. |
| 20:32.17 | zakkm | theres mer? |
| 20:32.27 | zakkm | archlinux doesnt have armel support :P |
| 20:32.33 | zakkm | you cant do it even if you wanted to |
| 20:32.40 | johnsq | its the same, old stuff in package. |
| 20:32.49 | FireFox | "!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "sys-apps/nit-bootmenu-compat" have been masked." |
| 20:32.53 | FireFox | hm |
| 20:32.57 | zakkm | Firefox: unmask it |
| 20:33.06 | zakkm | use autounmask .. nice little command |
| 20:33.15 | zakkm | or just unmask all from make.conf |
| 20:33.26 | zakkm | ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~ARM" |
| 20:33.31 | zakkm | i thinkit would be arm, maybe armel |
| 20:33.43 | johnsq | ~ARM is it |
| 20:33.43 | infobot | ...but arm is already something else... |
| 20:34.03 | zakkm | i dont know tablet exactly |
| 20:34.07 | zakkm | i just know gentoo on desktop |
| 20:34.10 | FireFox | autounmask <package> ? |
| 20:34.31 | zakkm | autounmask sys-apps/nit-bootmenu-compat |
| 20:34.32 | FireFox | ARM11=armel |
| 20:34.40 | zakkm | but is that what they call it? |
| 20:34.45 | zakkm | for packages |
| 20:34.48 | FireFox | ah, ok |
| 20:34.59 | johnsq | FireFox: make.conf KEYWORDS="~arm" |
| 20:35.08 | zakkm | ACCEPT_KEYWORDS*** |
| 20:35.13 | zakkm | not just KEYWORDS |
| 20:35.36 | johnsq | right ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~arm", i have copied from the ebuild |
| 20:35.44 | zakkm | dangerous to do, but hopefully it wont break anything |
| 20:38.31 | FireFox | wohoo!! it works!! :D |
| 20:38.55 | zakkm | lame |
| 20:38.56 | zakkm | :D |
| 20:38.56 | johnsq | hours later :) |
| 20:39.11 | zakkm | too much time compiling ;p |
| 20:39.52 | johnsq | without the maemo stuff, its much faster. |
| 20:40.10 | zakkm | heh |
| 20:41.01 | FireFox | i've waited a whole day for glibc - 2 hours is nothing ;) |
| 20:41.04 | johnsq | he hasn't booted gentoo yet, he is still working in a chroot behind all the maemo application |
| 20:41.40 | FireFox | emerge complains about /usr/lib/libsandbox.so missing btw |
| 20:41.57 | FireFox | but it said it's harmless |
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| 20:58.30 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: xserver running. any ebuild for keyboard? |
| 20:59.01 | zakkm | johnsq: no n810? |
| 20:59.31 | johnsq | I have n810 but the fn key isn't yet working |
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| 21:54.37 | nikosapi | Where are gconf settings stored on maemo? There's no ~/.gconf :S |
| 21:56.01 | Jaffa | thinks http://randaclay.com/how-to/want-to-be-successful-learn-to-manage-expectations/ should be mandatory reading for a whole lot of people. May send it round my underlings^Wteam at work :) |
| 21:56.16 | qwerty12_N810 | nikosapi: /var/lib/gconfz/ |
| 21:56.18 | qwerty12_N810 | -z |
| 21:56.25 | nikosapi | just found it :) |
| 21:56.34 | nikosapi | that's a rather odd place for it to be |
| 21:56.48 | qwerty12_N810 | It's Maemo. :) |
| 21:57.03 | nikosapi | nods |
| 22:17.51 | yandere | pokes Luke-Jr |
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| 22:26.06 | yandere | ^ lol |
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