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| 01:04.27 | smackpotat | i might of bricked my machine |
| 01:04.56 | smackpotat | it shuts of 30 seconds after being pluged in |
| 01:05.15 | smackpotat | i was playing with boot menu |
| 01:05.34 | smackpotat | any takers |
| 01:12.43 | johnx | reflash and/or try disabling lifeguard reset with the linux flasher |
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| 01:36.23 | gtb | ok, i'm trying to come up with ways of getting shell access to my screenless 770 |
| 01:37.07 | gtb | i made a custom root image that loads g_ether, and I can ping the device |
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| 01:37.34 | gtb | i tried to run a ssh server, but i can't connect to it, don't know why |
| 01:38.26 | Macer | no more brooms for harry potter. now its all about death horses |
| 01:38.43 | gtb | is there a way to set up a bluetooth console? |
| 01:39.16 | Macer | you know what harry potter lacks... excitement |
| 01:41.06 | derf | Nonsense. It has quidditch. |
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| 01:44.12 | sombra | hi, anyone is Brazilian ? |
| 01:45.47 | GeneralAntilles | Brazilians are presumably. |
| 01:47.43 | b-man16 | lol |
| 01:48.19 | b-man16 | it doesn't come out right in xchat XD |
| 01:49.13 | sombra | ok, i don't speak english very well, so i try explain my problem |
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| 01:49.48 | GeneralAntilles | sombra, more seriously, yes, there are usually some Brazilians in here, but they tend to be 9-to-5ers |
| 01:50.34 | EdLin | I just got Nokia M-4 speakers for my n810, anyone else have these; have comments? |
| 01:51.04 | EdLin | er, MD-4 |
| 01:55.15 | sombra | i am trying install maemo sdk, but the script failed to fetch some archives and the script exit. How do i resume installation ? |
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| 02:17.56 | Brian` | *cough* |
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| 02:19.49 | tehforum | ooh |
| 02:19.53 | tehforum | Hello. |
| 02:20.19 | tehforum | Lively chat. |
| 02:20.35 | Brian` | indeed XD |
| 02:20.47 | tehforum | PokerHt is an awesome appp |
| 02:20.53 | tehforum | its great |
| 02:21.05 | tehforum | almost like the facebook poker app |
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| 02:22.39 | Brian` | sweet :) |
| 02:22.49 | Brian` | eats a cheese stick |
| 02:23.12 | tehforum | eats nothing |
| 02:23.46 | Brian` | lol |
| 02:23.58 | tehforum | i think; its like 3am |
| 02:24.32 | tehforum | super mario war is interesting |
| 02:24.35 | tehforum | but |
| 02:25.01 | tehforum | it needs a bluetooth keyboard to make it work how it should |
| 02:25.04 | Brian` | it's 10:25 pm here |
| 02:25.07 | tehforum | you can use the normal dpad |
| 02:25.18 | tehforum | but, its rubbish |
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| 02:26.06 | tehforum | 3.25am |
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| 02:26.30 | Brian` | whare are you? |
| 02:26.40 | tehforum | uk |
| 02:26.45 | Brian` | is in ohio, us |
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| 02:27.04 | Brian` | hay lcuk |
| 02:27.17 | Brian` | is b-man ;) |
| 02:28.28 | LinuxCode | Brian`, its 3:28 am in the UK |
| 02:28.34 | LinuxCode | I doubt lcuk is awake |
| 02:29.04 | LinuxCode | saying that, he didnt seem to time out |
| 02:29.18 | Brian` | he is |
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| 02:35.59 | LinuxCode | he pmd me |
| 02:36.05 | LinuxCode | i know |
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| 04:27.37 | prahal | hi is there a mean to access the maemo ML archives ? the pipermail links are broken |
| 04:30.35 | bergie | prahal: http://maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/ |
| 04:32.37 | prahal | that s the forum , isn't it? I am looking for a particalur thread of the dev ML |
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| 04:34.59 | prahal | nm it seems from the google cache that what I was looking after is not possible (changing the boot commandline to see if in vesa the screen was corrupted |
| 04:42.53 | bergie | prahal: that "forum" is mailing list archives imported into forum software |
| 04:43.58 | prahal | ah thanks |
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| 05:43.14 | MarkBao | Hey. Is the n810 = n810 wimax edition, save for wimax support? |
| 05:43.24 | MarkBao | in terms of specs |
| 05:48.26 | timeless_mbp | it should be |
| 05:48.39 | timeless_mbp | it probably weighs a bit more :) |
| 05:48.46 | timeless_mbp | oh, and it's slightly deeper |
| 05:48.51 | timeless_mbp | because of the antenna |
| 05:52.14 | Jaffa | could get used to this business class flying malarkey |
| 05:52.27 | Jaffa | Free breakfast in the BA lounge. Free wifi. |
| 05:52.55 | prahal | is there an maemo based nokia without hardware keyboard on sale on nokia store (I already checked for france, and even n810 with hardware keyb is not available anymore |
| 05:53.31 | Jaffa | prahal: No. The N800 is discontinued |
| 05:53.57 | Jaffa | Why do you want one without the keyboard? Even if you don't use it, the N810 (with keyboard) is smaller than the N800 (without keyboard) |
| 05:54.00 | prahal | I asked because I checked on amazon and the price is 100 euros higher than the last price of the n810 on nokia store france |
| 05:55.04 | prahal | too expansive this way (I would have accepted the keyb if only the price had not risen so much |
| 05:55.38 | prahal | cause my 770 seems dead for real this time (screen corruption) |
| 05:56.43 | Stskeeps | morning |
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| 05:59.35 | prahal | Jaffa, the point is more the weight . I plan to use it as a car mutlimedia/gps system (and I already own a bluetooth gps) |
| 06:00.07 | Stskeeps | n810 comes with carmount though :P |
| 06:00.08 | prahal | except for the weight , I expected it would be cheaper |
| 06:00.22 | Stskeeps | and has excellent screen in the sun |
| 06:00.48 | Luke-Jr | Stskeeps: grr, N810 does not really come with a carmount |
| 06:00.54 | Stskeeps | it doesn't? :P |
| 06:00.56 | Luke-Jr | that's just false advertising |
| 06:00.58 | Luke-Jr | no |
| 06:01.10 | Luke-Jr | it comes with a frame and you need to buy the real mount seperate |
| 06:01.12 | Stskeeps | ah |
| 06:01.28 | Stskeeps | well what do i know, my n810 package wasn't exactly virgin |
| 06:01.48 | Luke-Jr | prahal: grab a SmartQ ;) |
| 06:01.55 | Luke-Jr | Stskeeps: you got a real mount?! |
| 06:02.31 | Stskeeps | Luke-Jr: nah, i think some pieces are missing |
| 06:02.50 | Stskeeps | Luke-Jr: i wouldn't like a smartq as gps though, screen is too reflective |
| 06:02.53 | Luke-Jr | wants a mount, but doesn't want to spend $ :þ |
| 06:02.59 | Stskeeps | ducttape? |
| 06:03.31 | Luke-Jr | sigh |
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| 06:50.29 | prahal | Stskeeps, the smartq 5 or 7 (or both are too reflective). I finally found n810 at its old nokia store price ... was not easy |
| 06:51.15 | thux | morning |
| 06:51.22 | Stskeeps | prahal: i haven't tried a q7 but 7 isn't very car sized |
| 06:51.26 | Stskeeps | 7" |
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| 07:03.06 | Stskeeps | morning timeless_mbp |
| 07:03.11 | timeless_mbp | yes |
| 07:03.14 | timeless_mbp | it's sleepy time |
| 07:03.19 | timeless_mbp | we have a two hour presentation |
| 07:03.23 | timeless_mbp | so it's sleepy time |
| 07:03.34 | timeless_mbp | alternatively, what can i do for mer this morning? |
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| 07:04.16 | Stskeeps | i was looking at the new fremantle beta strings and they're saner than the first ones in terms that they actually say what it's for, and only have one-two !! strings |
| 07:04.22 | Stskeeps | and have a free license |
| 07:04.29 | timeless_mbp | bsd? |
| 07:04.31 | Stskeeps | yeah |
| 07:04.41 | timeless_mbp | unbelievable |
| 07:04.49 | timeless_mbp | ok, i clearly owe someone a fancy dinner |
| 07:05.22 | Stskeeps | that some of it might still be engineering english is something else |
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| 07:05.44 | Stskeeps | but there's string descriptions and all there |
| 07:05.52 | timeless_mbp | that i can't easily be sued for replacing them makes my life so much better |
| 07:06.10 | timeless_mbp | in general, from my experience you don't want to read the string descriptions |
| 07:06.17 | timeless_mbp | for diablo, i ended up writing my own |
| 07:06.28 | timeless_mbp | i didn't finish which is why i generally stripped them from the sources i posted |
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| 07:25.04 | timeless_mbp | anyway... can i update my mer? :) |
| 07:25.28 | Stskeeps | i have a new 0.14 vmdk that i'm going to release later |
| 07:26.15 | Stskeeps | http://stskeeps.subnetmask.net/mer/0.14/mer-x86-generic-image-v0.14.vmdk.zip |
| 07:26.58 | timeless_mbp | yeah.... but... i prefer to software update |
| 07:27.06 | timeless_mbp | so i don't have to rebuild my settings :) |
| 07:27.50 | Stskeeps | true, but what version are you on? |
| 07:28.27 | timeless_mbp | 0.13 i suspect |
| 07:28.35 | timeless_mbp | lemme finish updating my w7 vm :) |
| 07:28.48 | Stskeeps | k, try editing /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mer.list to be Stable instead of 0.14 |
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| 07:34.50 | timeless_mbp | what's w/ the Caps? |
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| 07:35.27 | Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: artefact of OBS project names |
| 07:35.33 | Stskeeps | artifact(?) |
| 07:36.03 | timeless_mbp | artifact |
| 07:36.09 | Stskeeps | we export directly from our builder to the repositories so |
| 07:36.43 | Stskeeps | so we have Maemo:Mer:Stable (platform) and Maemo:Mer:Stable:HW:N8x0 (n8x0 hw support) for instance |
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| 08:18.28 | thux | i can see mp4 video well in my phone, but n800 hardly spin it slowly, tried mediaplayer and mplayer, has phone really more power or is mp4 support more poor in maemo? |
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| 08:21.15 | slonopotamus | thux, what resolution? |
| 08:22.02 | Stskeeps | thux: it might have to scale on n800 |
| 08:22.24 | thux | filmed with cellphone yes |
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| 08:23.43 | thux | must be resolution thing i try smaller picture |
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| 08:49.52 | Macer | hi |
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| 08:51.08 | Stskeeps | 'lo macer |
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| 08:53.27 | Macer | hi Stskeeps . how goes mer? |
| 08:53.28 | prahal | argh I found what was wrong with the n770, in the inside the map between the board and the screen got partially cut by the metal enclosure around the lcd :( dead |
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| 08:53.53 | Macer | prahal: good. take a hammer to it and save your quraters and get an n800 or n810 |
| 08:53.57 | Macer | :) |
| 08:54.34 | prahal | Macer, yup already talked about it . Waiting the salary to buy one . Still time to go |
| 08:54.56 | Stskeeps | Macer: 0.14 released just now |
| 08:54.59 | Macer | prahal: honestly if it were me i would just wait until the newer tablet came out |
| 08:55.07 | Stskeeps | Macer: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=296800 |
| 08:55.14 | Macer | then you could probably find an n810 for $5 |
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| 08:55.53 | prahal | eh !) |
| 08:56.18 | Macer | you have a smartq rebate program? |
| 08:56.21 | Macer | wow |
| 08:56.28 | Macer | sounds like mer is on the up and up :) |
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| 09:00.33 | Macer | Stskeeps: looks like it's going good |
| 09:00.41 | Macer | i'm looking at the screenshots now |
| 09:00.49 | Stskeeps | should see my presentation linked as well :P |
| 09:02.19 | Macer | lol. that's you? |
| 09:02.30 | Stskeeps | twitter.com/stskeeps has video links yeah |
| 09:03.07 | Macer | well. the accent helps haha |
| 09:03.28 | Macer | if you moved to the US people would take more interest in your work simply because of the accent |
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| 09:03.40 | Stskeeps | good or bad? :P |
| 09:04.34 | Macer | no. it's a good euro accent. like when you hear a german doctor talking about the holocaust |
| 09:04.42 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 09:05.03 | Macer | powerful power-efficient economical handheld computers? |
| 09:05.07 | Macer | kind of a bold statement don't you think? |
| 09:05.18 | Stskeeps | not really |
| 09:05.29 | Stskeeps | it's to illustrate the mindset really |
| 09:05.35 | Macer | i'll give you power-efficient |
| 09:05.45 | Stskeeps | powerful too, but not 1.8ghz |
| 09:05.57 | Stskeeps | they have their purposes |
| 09:06.15 | Stskeeps | did you see the 3 hour battery time xp phones? ;) |
| 09:06.26 | Macer | lol. there's xp phones? |
| 09:06.30 | Stskeeps | yeah.. |
| 09:06.30 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 09:06.47 | Macer | like. you don't mean winmob correct? like actual xp? |
| 09:07.02 | Stskeeps | i mean actual xp |
| 09:07.32 | Macer | that sounds like a bad thing from the beginning |
| 09:08.56 | Macer | Stskeeps: you need to find a niche for mer |
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| 09:09.25 | Macer | in order to make it something more than just another super portable computer |
| 09:09.42 | Stskeeps | Macer: we do have a nice niche really |
| 09:09.59 | Macer | what is it? |
| 09:10.07 | Stskeeps | mobile devices that aren't just simple mobile phones, but is a computer-in-your-pocket that can last for days |
| 09:10.35 | Macer | what kind of demographic are you looking for though? |
| 09:10.51 | Macer | i mean for it to be a success you need to adapt it for the masses |
| 09:10.56 | Stskeeps | oh, i agree |
| 09:10.59 | Stskeeps | and we're getting there |
| 09:11.00 | RST38h | mo all |
| 09:11.35 | Macer | who is your target audience though? |
| 09:11.42 | Macer | the businessman? the common user? |
| 09:11.55 | Stskeeps | both really - people get tired of dragging laptops around |
| 09:12.02 | Stskeeps | occasionally when i'm on the go, i can look up info i need |
| 09:12.12 | Macer | people can do that on their phones nowadays |
| 09:12.32 | Macer | it has to be more than just information :) that is the same old thing in a different package |
| 09:12.36 | Stskeeps | yeah, obviously |
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| 09:12.56 | Macer | i wish i could code.. but you need something new that will attract people quickly all of a sudden |
| 09:13.21 | Stskeeps | i have some ideas too but we'll see how they work out once we have a working system |
| 09:13.55 | Macer | yeah i guess it will be a while. but the problem is you will get symbianitis .. you have to work more on the eye candy so it doesn't start to look like old gtk stuff |
| 09:14.53 | Macer | nokia is losing ground to iphones and g1s because masses like to see animations and motions like they are floating through everything |
| 09:15.14 | Macer | i think it is some sort of relation to the flying dream. where everybody wishes they could fly |
| 09:15.29 | Macer | people are fascinated by things that hover |
| 09:16.58 | Macer | i think your best bet would be to concentrate on collaboration ... if you can show that mer can be used to communicate with a mid sized business server in such a way that all the employees can easily access all the work they need using mer you would have a win |
| 09:17.28 | Macer | maybe exchange or a zimbra connector... then everybody will love walking around with mer run devices :) |
| 09:17.51 | jophish | does maemo use etc/fstab? |
| 09:20.41 | Stskeeps | Macer: if a zimbra connector exists in ubuntu, we have it :P |
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| 09:36.13 | cosmo | hmm.. looks like my n810 _is_ broken. it still does the slow touch screen locking/unlocking and random crashes with no 3rd party apps installed |
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| 09:37.42 | aquatix | cosmo: meh :( |
| 09:38.04 | aquatix | i guess you already flashed it? |
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| 09:38.25 | cosmo | yep, freshly flashed |
| 09:39.37 | jophish | under a year old? |
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| 09:51.22 | cosmo | jophish: it's a bit older i think |
| 09:51.44 | cosmo | less than 2 years though |
| 09:54.27 | jophish | nokia are obliged to give a one year warranty |
| 09:54.36 | jophish | might let you return it |
| 09:56.01 | cosmo | i got the device via work, no receipt or anything available |
| 09:56.21 | cosmo | luckily i didn't pay for it :-) |
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| 10:11.21 | jophish | ah, no problems then! |
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| 10:32.29 | lcuk | is everyone keeping up with their 5 a day? |
| 10:35.35 | lcuk | would i be safe to assume inotify_init(); calls would work on os2008 and above? |
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| 10:37.56 | timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: are you guys ditching network manager? |
| 10:38.01 | timeless_mbp | dist-upgrades from 0.13 to Stable |
| 10:38.06 | timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: why does my mer vm have the wrong date? |
| 10:38.09 | VDVsx | lcuk, this is from which component/package ? |
| 10:38.11 | timeless_mbp | [1:33pm] <timeless_mbp> |
| 10:38.16 | timeless_mbp | it thinks today is June 3rd |
| 10:38.20 | timeless_mbp | also... my dist-upgrade broke |
| 10:38.21 | lcuk | VDVsx, "kernel" |
| 10:38.25 | timeless_mbp | gtkhtml0 and gtkhtml3.14 conflict |
| 10:38.42 | lcuk | its a system thing for inotify |
| 10:38.43 | Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: yeah, i'm not sure 0.13->0.14 upgrade works :P |
| 10:38.53 | Stskeeps | we switched to fremantle newer gtkhtml |
| 10:38.56 | Stskeeps | it causes funky problems |
| 10:38.57 | timeless_mbp | grumbles |
| 10:39.01 | Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: and because of guest additions |
| 10:39.05 | Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: no, we're hildonizing it |
| 10:39.06 | timeless_mbp | ok |
| 10:39.08 | Stskeeps | (NM) |
| 10:39.13 | timeless_mbp | ok |
| 10:39.18 | timeless_mbp | so should i give you strings to fix it? |
| 10:39.33 | Stskeeps | if there's NM problems yeah i guess |
| 10:39.43 | Stskeeps | i hate its messages |
| 10:41.59 | timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: erm |
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| 10:42.04 | timeless_mbp | you're shipping 2gb images again? |
| 10:42.27 | VDVsx | lcuk, available in > 2.6.13 kernels, then should be in maemo 5 kernel :) |
| 10:42.48 | Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: the old ones corrupted :/ |
| 10:42.51 | lcuk | its available in my n810 im sure |
| 10:42.53 | Stskeeps | i forgot to fix it |
| 10:42.57 | timeless_mbp | corrupted? |
| 10:43.04 | Stskeeps | yeah, partition beyond limit |
| 10:43.09 | lcuk | but i mightv had an upgrade |
| 10:43.14 | Stskeeps | so ext2/3 slowly corrupted |
| 10:43.14 | timeless_mbp | you emulated Nokia? |
| 10:43.19 | Stskeeps | yes, that happens |
| 10:43.25 | timeless_mbp | impressive |
| 10:44.35 | timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: i thought you said you included vm host support |
| 10:44.50 | timeless_mbp | vbox isn't any happier w/ this version than the previous |
| 10:45.03 | Stskeeps | guest additions? no, because we can't do it in that reliable way from the same tar.gz |
| 10:45.11 | Stskeeps | you can install it though now (i think) |
| 10:48.14 | timeless_mbp | this is x86, right? :) |
| 10:48.18 | Stskeeps | yeah |
| 10:48.25 | wazd | heya maemo :) |
| 10:48.35 | timeless_mbp | it wants gnu make |
| 10:48.52 | Stskeeps | apt-get install build-essential? :P |
| 10:51.25 | timeless_mbp | enoworkee |
| 10:51.34 | timeless_mbp | This system does not seem to have support for OpenGL direct rendering |
| 10:51.55 | timeless_mbp | oh |
| 10:52.01 | timeless_mbp | it wants kernel headers |
| 10:52.27 | Stskeeps | http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Documentation/Installation#Installation_in_VirtualBox |
| 10:53.13 | Stskeeps | it has guide on how to do it |
| 10:53.13 | timeless_mbp | i think your guide is over prescriptive |
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| 10:53.13 | timeless_mbp | doesn't build-essential include gcc? |
| 10:53.29 | lcuk | it should |
| 10:53.38 | Stskeeps | i didn't write it, but i guess to make bloody sure it gets it installed ;) |
| 10:54.22 | jumpula | timeless_mbp: it depends from g++ which depends from gcc which is a meta package for gcc |
| 10:54.30 | jumpula | so yes |
| 10:54.39 | timeless_mbp | jumpula: xxx please fix wiki for me :) |
| 10:54.47 | Stskeeps | fixes it |
| 10:54.59 | timeless_mbp | your goal while giving instructions to people victimized by a lack of a working copy+paste |
| 10:55.13 | timeless_mbp | is to have as few characters for them to type as absolutely necessary |
| 10:55.48 | timeless_mbp | (actually, this should pretty much *always* be your goal, but ...) |
| 10:56.23 | timeless_mbp | btw, why does it say /dev/scd0? |
| 10:56.27 | timeless_mbp | is that some magical device? |
| 10:56.43 | Stskeeps | scsi cdrom |
| 10:56.55 | jumpula | aha. maemo's build-essential depends from gcc as well in addition to g++. |
| 10:56.57 | Stskeeps | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:57.17 | timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: i managed to use /dev/sr0 instead |
| 10:57.33 | Stskeeps | interesting |
| 10:57.54 | timeless_mbp | (both work here, i tried scd0 right before rebooting) |
| 10:58.08 | timeless_mbp | scd* is probably a magical alias for a bunch of possibles |
| 10:58.40 | timeless_mbp | um, my screen seems to be closer to 800x480 |
| 10:58.45 | RST38h | ywans |
| 10:58.47 | timeless_mbp | and that means the default launcher doesn't fit :) |
| 10:58.53 | Stskeeps | eh |
| 10:58.56 | RST38h | i.e. yawns |
| 10:59.01 | timeless_mbp | want picture? |
| 10:59.05 | Stskeeps | yes |
| 10:59.17 | Stskeeps | everything should fit on 800x480 :P |
| 10:59.28 | RST38h | Sts: And in 640kB |
| 11:00.24 | timeless_mbp | http://www.webwizardry.net/~timeless/n800/mer014.png |
| 11:00.50 | timeless_mbp | ok, i guess my screen isn't actually 480 talk |
| 11:00.52 | timeless_mbp | tall |
| 11:00.58 | timeless_mbp | but it's whatever the system picked :) |
| 11:00.59 | Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: can you do me a favour and xrandr? |
| 11:01.07 | Stskeeps | and see what current resolution is |
| 11:01.57 | timeless_mbp | 720x400 |
| 11:02.10 | Stskeeps | yeah.. the launcher is hardcoded |
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| 11:02.18 | Stskeeps | i've thought about making it fit screen entirely actually |
| 11:07.17 | wazd | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2009/06/nokia-e72-5530-ofc.jpg <- n800, 2 years later :) |
| 11:07.47 | timeless_mbp | e72? |
| 11:07.57 | RST38h | wazd: where is dpad? =)~~ |
| 11:08.11 | timeless_mbp | RST38h: those don't go well w/ glass :) |
| 11:08.22 | Stskeeps | more importantly |
| 11:08.24 | wazd | RST38h: well, it was lost in the sands of time :) |
| 11:08.25 | Stskeeps | any keyboard? :P |
| 11:08.55 | wazd | RST38h: it appears that we were sitting in the crowd of top russian bloggers yesterday :D |
| 11:09.03 | wazd | RST38h: like Anton Nosik :) |
| 11:09.29 | RST38h | wazd: Shit, should have stolen his kipa |
| 11:09.50 | wazd | RST38h: yep, I didn't recognized him without it :) |
| 11:10.12 | RST38h | wazd: And they were *literally* performing sexual favors for food =) |
| 11:10.53 | timeless_mbp | any idea why the vm offers me a hebrew keyboard? |
| 11:11.25 | RST38h | it is trying to tell you something |
| 11:11.31 | timeless_mbp | also, the uppercase J in the virtual keyboard is disturbing |
| 11:11.39 | timeless_mbp | did someone forget to tell it that the baseline applies to it too? |
| 11:12.05 | timeless_mbp | oh, and the Shit key on the left side of the keyboard is probably not a good idea |
| 11:12.25 | timeless_mbp | i mean, i know that competing w/ Nokia is fun, but really |
| 11:12.47 | aquatix | ghehe, Shit key |
| 11:15.26 | timeless_mbp | http://www.webwizardry.net/~timeless/n800/mer%20shi%20key%20and%20baseline%20violating%20J.png |
| 11:15.40 | timeless_mbp | aquatix: it helps to remind people that messing around with gutters is a bad idea |
| 11:15.42 | aquatix | ha |
| 11:15.48 | aquatix | nice |
| 11:16.24 | timeless_mbp | the VPN tab of connection manager of course doesn't fit |
| 11:16.25 | aquatix | awful :) |
| 11:16.58 | Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: should really be a icon |
| 11:17.10 | timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: font vector character |
| 11:17.11 | timeless_mbp | but yes |
| 11:17.15 | timeless_mbp | it should be a glyph |
| 11:19.28 | timeless_mbp | http://www.webwizardry.net/~timeless/n800/nm-button%20overflow.png |
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| 11:27.45 | timeless_mbp | the show home plugin is too wide and unadorned |
| 11:29.08 | timeless_mbp | um |
| 11:29.13 | timeless_mbp | the task launcher got a bit confused |
| 11:32.04 | timeless_mbp | i just clicked on 'mer' |
| 11:32.25 | timeless_mbp | and then it started running from my selectio... internet .. communication.. utilities .. settings ... .... ... my selection ... |
| 11:32.26 | timeless_mbp | forever |
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| 12:10.41 | KayDeeEeJon | is there an easy way to do that? |
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| 12:30.29 | Stskeeps | to the backlog |
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| 13:35.57 | VDVsx | ~burn himself |
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| 13:45.36 | GAN800 | This is going to be a fun morning for me. . . . |
| 13:45.42 | Stskeeps | mm? |
| 13:45.48 | GAN800 | sighs at understaffing. |
| 13:45.50 | X-Fade | GAN800: Lack of coffee? :) |
| 13:45.51 | Stskeeps | the new bible translation came out? |
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| 13:46.34 | GAN800 | The Jackass's Guide to the Bible |
| 13:46.48 | GAN800 | I'm practically the only person here. |
| 13:47.01 | Stskeeps | thank god for tablets |
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| 13:47.33 | GAN800 | X-Fade, I don't drink coffee. ;) |
| 13:48.37 | X-Fade | GAN800: Used tea bags then? :P |
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| 13:48.53 | Stskeeps | 'lo andrewfblack |
| 13:49.01 | andrewfblack | Hello Stskeeps |
| 13:50.04 | GAN800 | X-Fade, a bowl of hearty oatmeal. :P |
| 13:50.26 | X-Fade | Fibers++ :) |
| 13:50.29 | GAN800 | and a glass of roadside Florida orange juice. |
| 13:51.16 | GAN800 | Because you aint had orange juice until you've had Florida roadside. |
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| 14:01.22 | RST38h | New device to connect to a tablet: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/06/freespace-loop.jpg |
| 14:01.48 | Stskeeps | what on earth is that |
| 14:01.56 | RST38h | A motion controller |
| 14:02.15 | RST38h | Should look like a mouse to the host computer |
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| 14:27.43 | RichiH | RST38h: neat |
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| 14:34.43 | wazd | http://conversations.nokia.com/2009/06/15/nokia-e72-unveiled-pics-and-video/ <- I think I just got hot |
| 14:35.32 | Stskeeps | hehe |
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| 14:40.42 | timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: as long as it doesn't require a login :) |
| 14:41.34 | wazd | RST38h: http://gizmodo.com/5291055/samsung-jet-actually-rocket-powered-800mhz-processor-six+sided-cube-interface-webkit-browser <- hehehe :) |
| 14:43.11 | Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: does http auth count? |
| 14:43.25 | timeless_mbp | if it requires a username/password i'm not happy :) |
| 14:43.46 | Stskeeps | i just ask it to save the login/password in firefox personally and it works transparently from there |
| 14:43.52 | Stskeeps | lemme just add you so you can see otherwise :P |
| 14:47.22 | roope | the E72 is a very nice piece of HW. My coworker has been testing it for a month or so. |
| 14:47.48 | RST38h | wazd: How familiar =) |
| 14:48.02 | RST38h | wazd: It isn't a smartphone though, so who cares |
| 14:48.56 | roope | Strange sad-Brokeback Mountain music on the E72 youtube video. :) |
| 14:49.38 | RST38h | roope: what is that "optical sensor" stuff somebody at itt was talking about? |
| 14:49.45 | RST38h | as in dpad being optical |
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| 14:51.48 | Stskeeps | 4 ambient sensors maybe? |
| 14:54.06 | zakhary | any news if OSP will update Flash for n810 in it's lifetime? |
| 14:54.16 | timeless_mbp | OSP? |
| 14:54.28 | zakhary | open screen project |
| 14:55.13 | roope | rst38h: yes, there's an optical sensor in there. It detects basic finger movements and gestures with it. |
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| 14:55.40 | roope | I.e. you swipe your finger downwards on top of the dpad, it can detect this gesture and scroll downwards. |
| 14:55.59 | roope | Or it also detects hovering your finger on top of it. |
| 14:56.10 | roope | (swipe without pressing the button down, naturally) |
| 14:56.16 | timeless_mbp | zakhary: and what's 'Flash'? |
| 14:56.40 | zakhary | Adobe Flash player |
| 14:56.46 | roope | The surface of the E72 feels really nice, although the pictures don't perhaps convey it very well. |
| 14:57.22 | zakhary | YLE areena just stopped working as they moved from windows media to flash :/ |
| 14:57.50 | zakhary | and before you ask, YLE is the finnish BBC |
| 14:57.54 | zakhary | :) |
| 15:00.17 | lcuk | roope, so i gather by this detection stuff its gonna go bonkers when i reach and grab the device :O |
| 15:00.55 | lcuk | or when the sun changes from light to dark |
| 15:01.07 | lcuk | (well - goes from light to shadow) |
| 15:02.24 | zakhary | no news? :/ |
| 15:02.30 | suihkulokki | zakhary: hey, even with my laptop the new areena stream looks like a slideshow.. |
| 15:02.32 | wazd | I think it's a simple touchpad, not an optical sensor |
| 15:03.00 | timeless_mbp | zakhary: i live in .fi |
| 15:03.17 | timeless_mbp | which i believe my hostmask clearly indicates.... |
| 15:03.31 | zakhary | at least the audio only should work |
| 15:03.45 | timeless_mbp | zakhary: i'm confused though |
| 15:03.51 | wazd | cause this center button is absolutely opaque |
| 15:03.53 | zakhary | timeless_mbp: sorry, negledget to notice |
| 15:04.03 | wazd | even on highres press photos |
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| 15:04.06 | timeless_mbp | how precisely would an 'open' anything project be able to provide any version of Flash? |
| 15:04.21 | timeless_mbp | Flash is a commercial product for which vendors typically have to pay a licensing fee |
| 15:04.36 | timeless_mbp | (it's also, I believe a trademark) |
| 15:05.08 | zakhary | I really don't know much about it |
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| 15:05.24 | johnsq | Hi |
| 15:05.34 | timeless_mbp | oh, that's one of those adobe things :) |
| 15:05.39 | zakhary | but that's where my googling led me to, when I was looking for an answer to the question of a new Flash player |
| 15:05.56 | timeless_mbp | wonders if that was the thing that nokia couldn't figure out how to spell a while ago |
| 15:06.35 | zakhary | and I don't know how open that project really is |
| 15:06.52 | zakhary | http://www.openscreenproject.org/ |
| 15:06.53 | timeless_mbp | zakhary: ah yes |
| 15:06.54 | RST38h | roope: Is does the sensor replace the real arrow buttons or just add to them? |
| 15:06.59 | timeless_mbp | it was the Open Screen Foundation Fund or fund |
| 15:07.08 | timeless_mbp | and Nokia had no clue about whether it was Fund or fund |
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| 15:07.11 | timeless_mbp | it was quite depressing |
| 15:07.19 | timeless_mbp | since Nokia doesn't even know the proper name for it |
| 15:07.28 | xnt14 | ~seen b-man16 |
| 15:07.31 | infobot | b-man16 is currently on #maemo (15h 39m 52s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 13h 19m 11s, last said: 'it doesn't come out right in xchat XD'. |
| 15:07.31 | timeless_mbp | i think it's safe to say that Nokia doesn't know anything else about it either :) |
| 15:07.31 | zakhary | :) |
| 15:07.38 | xnt14 | xD |
| 15:07.38 | b-man16 | hay xnt14 |
| 15:07.40 | xnt14 | hey |
| 15:07.46 | xnt14 | last day of school :D |
| 15:07.57 | zakhary | not much hope in getting a new flash player from there then, I guess |
| 15:07.58 | b-man16 | sweet :D |
| 15:08.06 | xnt14 | :) |
| 15:08.23 | xnt14 | http://xceleo.com/version2/mer/ :) |
| 15:08.39 | xnt14 | added mer logo |
| 15:08.40 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: cx3110x didn't compile clean with ebuild, i patched it. |
| 15:08.59 | b-man16 | awesome :) |
| 15:09.05 | xnt14 | :) |
| 15:09.16 | xnt14 | opens a pm window before GA bans him |
| 15:10.06 | timeless_mbp | zakhary: hrm |
| 15:10.08 | timeless_mbp | http://www.openscreenproject.org/about/faq.html |
| 15:10.14 | timeless_mbp | so, if you're a member |
| 15:10.26 | timeless_mbp | you can royalty free ship some future version of the player |
| 15:10.34 | timeless_mbp | got a few million or billion dollars? :) |
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| 15:11.07 | xnt14 | 's school pays alot of money for a t1 line and it get bogged down by thousands of kids trying to dl music from limewire |
| 15:11.16 | xnt14 | its stupid |
| 15:11.39 | zakhary | heh, not right now |
| 15:11.40 | lcuk | xnt14, simple answer then, close your limewire client |
| 15:11.46 | lcuk | and everyone else will be happier as well |
| 15:11.51 | timeless_mbp | zakhary: maybe next year? |
| 15:11.53 | xnt14 | lcuk: I don't use limewire |
| 15:12.05 | lcuk | which do you use? |
| 15:12.09 | timeless_mbp | zakhary: when you change your mind, https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=partner |
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| 15:12.41 | xnt14 | bt |
| 15:12.52 | timeless_mbp | (actually, it's more of a wallet change, but...) |
| 15:13.11 | zakhary | maybe, or maybe I'll buy a new mediapad/minilaptop/internetphone |
| 15:14.11 | timeless_mbp | based on the initial fund value of 10 million USD |
| 15:14.21 | timeless_mbp | you should be able to join for 1 million :) |
| 15:14.33 | timeless_mbp | quite a bargain, i'm sure :) |
| 15:15.09 | timeless_mbp | sorry... just because something has 'open' in its name doesn't mean it isn't simply 'open for business' :) |
| 15:15.20 | johnsq | open means it sucks |
| 15:15.31 | johnsq | free means it rocks |
| 15:15.33 | timeless_mbp | johnsq: it sucks lots of money out of someone's pocket! |
| 15:15.45 | timeless_mbp | free means it's rocky |
| 15:16.12 | zakhary | open=free |
| 15:16.13 | timeless_mbp | heavy mineral content, mildly caustic, generally explosive |
| 15:16.29 | zakhary | so please give me a new Flash player yesterday |
| 15:16.43 | RST38h | Neither word means anything, when dealing with corporate communications |
| 15:16.53 | timeless_mbp | RST38h: aww, you're jaded |
| 15:16.58 | timeless_mbp | i guess that's a kind of minear |
| 15:17.01 | RST38h | is realistic |
| 15:17.01 | timeless_mbp | mineral |
| 15:17.30 | timeless_mbp | NaAlSi2O6 |
| 15:17.32 | zakhary | time to head home -> |
| 15:17.34 | timeless_mbp | that's you :) |
| 15:21.11 | RST38h | Hehe, Peter says there are plans to show the prototypes to a few members of the Maemo community for a review |
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| 15:22.26 | leachim6 | hey |
| 15:22.28 | leachim6 | where can I find a HUGE list of os2006 sources |
| 15:22.30 | leachim6 | at one time... |
| 15:22.32 | leachim6 | I found a site that had all of them |
| 15:23.29 | RST38h | hmmm |
| 15:23.35 | Luke-Jr | johnsq: the latest one does :þ |
| 15:23.44 | Luke-Jr | johnsq: slono got to it first |
| 15:23.53 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: i have run layman -S |
| 15:24.04 | Luke-Jr | ⺠|
| 15:24.19 | wazd | RST38h: thoughtfix'n'stuff, I'm sure) |
| 15:24.32 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: I mean i have update to use the latest ebuild. |
| 15:24.40 | RST38h | wazd: yea, I kinda doubt we are on the list :) |
| 15:25.27 | fiferboy | lbt: We have git branches |
| 15:25.33 | leachim6 | where can I find the most completely list of os2006 sources? at one point I found a site that had all of them |
| 15:25.57 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: cx3110x-module-src-2.0.15/src/Makefile -include $(PWD)/Makefile.k26 +include $(SUBDIRS)/Makefile.k26 |
| 15:26.28 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: I got no target for Makefile.k26 as error. |
| 15:26.47 | Luke-Jr | O.o |
| 15:27.13 | johnsq | not sure if my patch is correct, but it works=compiles after this |
| 15:27.19 | Luke-Jr | it just built clean here.. |
| 15:27.33 | leachim6 | nvm |
| 15:27.34 | leachim6 | I found it |
| 15:27.37 | leachim6 | it was on my delicious |
| 15:27.37 | leachim6 | http://www.gronmayer.com/it/ |
| 15:28.31 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: it wanted to run /usr/src/linux/Makefile.k26 which I didn't have on the n810 |
| 15:28.51 | wazd | xnt14: you have wrong description of Mer on your site |
| 15:29.13 | xnt14 | wazd: what should I put then? |
| 15:29.42 | wazd | xnt14: Mer isn't written by Stskeeps, it's administrated by him :) |
| 15:29.54 | xnt14 | oh yeah, :P xD |
| 15:30.24 | Stskeeps | i'm just a faciliator, every contributor owns mer :P |
| 15:30.33 | xnt14 | :P |
| 15:30.38 | xnt14 | ok fixed |
| 15:30.46 | xnt14 | http://xceleo.com/version2/mer/ |
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| 15:31.08 | xnt14 | and the mockups page is up, with my (old) crappy mockup |
| 15:31.15 | xnt14 | http://xceleo.com/version2/mer/mockups/ |
| 15:31.37 | wazd | Mer logo is copirighted under CC license |
| 15:31.42 | xnt14 | wazd: also the mockup uses your mer logo |
| 15:31.42 | wazd | not by Stskeeps |
| 15:31.48 | xnt14 | oh ok :P thanks |
| 15:31.58 | xnt14 | ill fix that too :P |
| 15:32.49 | lcuk | make sure you make a note of that "all suggested fixes are (C) wazd" |
| 15:32.58 | wazd | lcuk: :D |
| 15:33.09 | xnt14 | :D |
| 15:33.16 | wazd | lcuk: and "this message is (c) lcuk" :D |
| 15:33.24 | lcuk | heh |
| 15:33.33 | xnt14 | :D |
| 15:33.33 | lcuk | unless wazd puts em to public domain |
| 15:34.02 | leachim6 | where can I get gainroot for os2006? |
| 15:34.17 | lcuk_[c]2009 | that will do |
| 15:34.21 | lcuk_[c]2009 | every posting i make now lol |
| 15:34.44 | thopiekar | lcuk: can you remember the name of the site of the opengl-bypass? the headers you know.. |
| 15:35.01 | lcuk | opengl pypass? |
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| 15:35.05 | lcuk | liqbase you mean? |
| 15:35.08 | lcuk | :d |
| 15:35.10 | xnt14_[c]09 | :P |
| 15:35.30 | lcuk | mmmmmmm pypass |
| 15:35.30 | xnt14_[c]09 | *this ":P" instance is copyrighted to xnt14 |
| 15:35.32 | thopiekar | xD |
| 15:35.34 | xnt14_[c]09 | xD |
| 15:35.41 | xnt14_[c]09 | *this "xD" instance is copyrighted to xnt14 |
| 15:35.47 | xnt14 | :P |
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| 15:37.28 | thopiekar | no we talk about the problem that diablo-env hasn't got opengl headers and you send me a site with headers which are preparing these opengl callbacks.. software-acceleration .. |
| 15:38.08 | xnt14 | lcuk, wazd: http://xceleo.com/version2/mer/ look at the footer xD |
| 15:40.11 | xnt14 | 's tech class is watching wall-e in class for the last day of school, and evryone is saying "hey you're on TV" xD |
| 15:40.18 | xnt14 | *everyone |
| 15:40.37 | xnt14 | if you don't understand then disregard :P |
| 15:40.59 | xnt14 | I think only lcuk, Stskeeps, and b-man16 would understand :P |
| 15:41.20 | Stskeeps | wall-y |
| 15:41.38 | xnt14 | lol |
| 15:42.55 | xnt14 | <div id="menu_hr"></div> |
| 15:43.01 | xnt14 | oops sorry wrong window :P |
| 15:43.45 | lcuk | xnt14, your use of my copyright material without authorization is liable to massive fines, expect black helicopters circling |
| 15:44.19 | xnt14 | so wazd's corrections are copyrighted? |
| 15:44.21 | xnt14 | brb |
| 15:44.23 | lcuk | has patent pending upon "method of copyrighting copyright alterations...over the internet" |
| 15:45.17 | xnt14 | im back |
| 15:45.22 | xnt14 | damn :P |
| 15:46.14 | xnt14 | wait, I didn't use lcuk-sitev2 code in my site, I used xnt-site-graphiurev2 code, so I didn't use your patent :P |
| 15:46.25 | xnt14 | yup I use graphiure on my site |
| 15:46.46 | xnt14 | well you guys don't know what graphiure is :P |
| 15:47.01 | lcuk | we dont know what most of the stuff you say is, so its not much different :P |
| 15:47.33 | xnt14 | lol |
| 15:47.46 | xnt14 | well, only b-man would know |
| 15:49.08 | Luke-Jr | johnsq: you're supposed to? :þ |
| 15:49.15 | Luke-Jr | johnsq: did you install kernel sources? |
| 15:49.37 | xnt14 | ok g2g for now, have to get to class, ill be back in 42mins |
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| 15:49.54 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: yes diablo sources with ebuild |
| 15:50.07 | Luke-Jr | johnsq: you ran 'make prepare'? ;) |
| 15:50.36 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: no |
| 15:52.21 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: never used prepare, used make def_something, and then make ; make modules, complete kernel compiles fine |
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| 16:21.30 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: make prepare seems to have done it. it now compiles. |
| 16:21.56 | Luke-Jr | ⺠|
| 16:23.13 | johnsq | Luke-Jr: I have made "make prepare" in the kernel tree and than installed cx3110x which now worked. |
| 16:23.27 | Luke-Jr | cool |
| 16:25.13 | johnsq | still didn't know what prepare makes. |
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| 16:25.38 | _mo | hi @all |
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| 16:37.28 | _mo | I successfully installed maemo sdk 4.1.2 on ubuntu 9.04, but if I start xephyr + af-sb-init.sh and click on the programs-butten in the navigation bar I get a segmentation fault from xephyr |
| 16:37.50 | _mo | I am missing something? |
| 16:37.57 | timeless_mbp | chuckles |
| 16:38.15 | Stskeeps | _mo: there's a guide on xephyr problems afaik |
| 16:38.18 | Stskeeps | on jaunty |
| 16:40.10 | _mo | ok thx |
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| 16:46.30 | xnt14 | ~seen b-man16 |
| 16:46.31 | infobot | b-man16 <n=b-man@pool-71-124-32-204.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 1h 37m 32s ago, saying: 'awesome :)'. |
| 16:46.36 | xnt14 | lol |
| 16:46.40 | xnt14 | ~seen qwerty12 |
| 16:46.41 | infobot | qwerty12 <n=faheem@78-86-35-231.zone2.bethere.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 2d 6h 28m 47s ago, saying: 'So, why would I have a need for it? :)'. |
| 16:46.47 | xnt14 | ~seen qwerty12_N810 |
| 16:46.48 | infobot | qwerty12_n810 <n=faheem@78-86-35-231.zone2.bethere.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 21h 54m 21s ago, saying: 'yes, and like ShadowJK said, the internal flash is compressed. your sd card is not'. |
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| 16:46.55 | xnt14 | not here :P |
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| 16:50.32 | jophish | ~seen shadow__x |
| 16:50.33 | infobot | shadow__x <n=Good@unaffiliated/shadowx/x-411846> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 34d 15h 32m 10s ago, saying: 'i rather use carman with my n810 but if am leaning towards the scangauge'. |
| 16:50.41 | jophish | ~seen shadow_x |
| 16:50.42 | infobot | shadow_x <n=Shadow_X@c-71-228-213-14.hsd1.tn.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 423d 12h 21m 14s ago, saying: 'RapidZF, BurnAware Free Edition'. |
| 16:51.40 | VDVsx | infobot, die |
| 16:51.40 | infobot | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 16:51.45 | VDVsx | :P |
| 16:51.46 | Myrtti | /msg nickserv info <nickname> |
| 16:52.27 | jophish | VDVsx, have you seen the bot in #fpc, It's very good |
| 16:53.00 | VDVsx | jophish, no :), what fpc stands for ? |
| 16:53.10 | jophish | free pascal compiler |
| 16:53.40 | jophish | fpcBot uses phrases said in chat to reply to you |
| 16:53.52 | VDVsx | jophish, so is a pascal bot ? :P |
| 16:54.04 | jophish | presumably |
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| 16:55.15 | VDVsx | jophish, our infobot is just stupid :), lol |
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| 17:10.21 | xnt14 | fixes up his site |
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| 17:49.16 | lopz | hola |
| 17:51.26 | thopiekar | managed to get mixxx working without opengl :D |
| 17:51.31 | thopiekar | the time is there for a DJ-ing program on your tablets :P |
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| 17:57.38 | RST38h | thopiekar: aka "scratch your screen blind" =) |
| 17:58.17 | thopiekar | hehe .. I have a screenprotector on it.. |
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| 18:04.09 | wazd | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=296674#post296674 |
| 18:04.26 | wazd | Caaptain Obvious has captured the forum :D |
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| 18:06.57 | thopiekar | wazd: !? |
| 18:07.27 | wazd | to make an app that will adjust brightness of the screen with light sensor :D |
| 18:07.28 | thopiekar | why and how has he captured the forum ? :P |
| 18:07.42 | thopiekar | :D |
| 18:08.11 | thopiekar | would be great on N800*s using the webcam.. |
| 18:08.45 | qwerty12_N800 | the feature sucks imho, i keep it disabled... |
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| 18:20.12 | RST38h | webcam would be a good idea yes |
| 18:20.37 | RST38h | Meanwhile, my favorite netbook runs Moblin now: http://gizmodo.com/5291312/asus-eee-keyboard-shown-running-intels-moblin-netbook-os :) |
| 18:20.49 | Stskeeps | GAN800: you were from florida? |
| 18:21.18 | RST38h | Going to cause permanent neck injury too |
| 18:25.33 | keesj | RST38h: funny concept |
| 18:26.08 | keesj | that screen does multi-touch? |
| 18:29.32 | keesj | guess not |
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| 18:37.26 | RST38h | keesj: not really |
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| 19:03.05 | lcuk | RST38h, those are cool, but for the fact i am a leftie! |
| 19:03.16 | lcuk | have you seen the others with a touchscreen top and centre |
| 19:03.20 | lcuk | or maybe its just info |
| 19:03.45 | lcuk | thats basically where my tablet sits when hacking - between kb and monitor :) |
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| 19:06.31 | lbt | My Diablo keeps saying "(!) USB device not supported" |
| 19:06.41 | lbt | nothing plugged in... |
| 19:07.24 | RST38h | lcuk: just rotate it upside down :) |
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| 19:07.58 | ShadowJK | I know a guy who stuck his tongue into nokia pop-port, the phone beeped and said "unsupported device" at him :-( |
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| 19:08.07 | RST38h | is also a leftie but does not mind: neither left nor right side is perfect for the screen anyway |
| 19:08.35 | mavhc | I plugged nokia headset supplied with nokia phone into nokia phone and got unsupported device |
| 19:09.03 | RST38h | can't even plug new nokia headsets into E70 |
| 19:09.45 | mavhc | my phones a sony erricson, so the accessory connection is lame |
| 19:10.40 | lcuk | RST38h, my keyboard gets dusty crap all over it |
| 19:10.47 | lcuk | i would screw up a flat screen anywhere near |
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| 19:13.29 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, born and raised. |
| 19:14.30 | RST38h | lcuk: I am afraid this one will collect even more crap, look at those slits under the keys |
| 19:14.48 | lcuk | i only took a passing glance |
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| 19:17.15 | VDVsx | GAN800, there will be a very cool conference (at least for me :) ) in your area in end of September |
| 19:17.24 | VDVsx | http://www.ubicomp.org/ubicomp2009/ |
| 19:17.36 | Stskeeps | andrewfblack: prod |
| 19:17.53 | RST38h | Virgin appears to have broken up finally |
| 19:18.03 | GAN800 | ew, Orlando. :P |
| 19:18.10 | RST38h | "Virgin to Offer Unlimited DRM-Free MP3s For a Flat Monthly Rate" ($20) |
| 19:18.41 | GAN800 | VDVsx, just don't think for a second that that Disneyfied hellhole is repressentative of the state at large. :D |
| 19:18.42 | RST38h | Although there will probabyly be strings attached |
| 19:18.56 | ShadowJK | and regional restrictions :-) |
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| 19:19.13 | VDVsx | GAN800, far away from you ? |
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| 19:19.37 | RST38h | been to Melbourne, FL. No idea how "real" FL it is though |
| 19:19.47 | VDVsx | GAN800, I know you guys have states bigger than my country :P |
| 19:20.40 | GAN800 | VDVsx, nah, pretty close. A little over an hour away. I'm in the Tampa Bay area. |
| 19:21.12 | GAN800 | RST38h, pretty much anything is better than Orlando. |
| 19:21.27 | lbt | I thought orlando was a theme park? |
| 19:21.35 | RST38h | GAN: Only was in Orland for long enough to rent a car |
| 19:22.45 | RST38h | GAN: Wanted a compact, mortally insulted the rental clerk by asking for a Nissan, had to accept Sebring instead =) |
| 19:23.22 | GAN800 | lbt, basically. |
| 19:23.42 | GAN800 | it's Disney and Universal. |
| 19:23.45 | GAN800 | Disney mostly owns the city. |
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| 19:25.52 | fiferboy | lbt: Checked out gitorious lately? |
| 19:26.23 | lbt | heh, been chatting to gnuton |
| 19:26.31 | lbt | it's getting there... |
| 19:26.47 | lbt | need to do a pull |
| 19:26.53 | fiferboy | My qemu compile didn't go anywhere |
| 19:27.26 | lbt | :( |
| 19:27.48 | fiferboy | Not because of the linker, something went wrong with my chroot, I think. |
| 19:28.09 | fiferboy | I can't actually run chroot on the directory anymore. I think I will have to start over |
| 19:28.15 | lbt | mmm |
| 19:28.18 | lbt | sec |
| 19:29.34 | lbt | as root : qemu-binfmt-conf.sh |
| 19:30.27 | fiferboy | That did it! |
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| 19:38.20 | lbt | fiferboy: have you tried merging all the branches? :( |
| 19:38.41 | fiferboy | No. I haven't done a pull yet |
| 19:38.44 | fiferboy | Not working? |
| 19:39.31 | lbt | some conflicts.... not looked at it yet |
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| 19:52.00 | fiferboy | lbt: When you are working locally, do you pull all the branches to your local master, or create a separate branch for each of them locally? |
| 19:52.47 | lbt | git checkout -b merging |
| 19:52.54 | lbt | to make a merge branch locally |
| 19:52.57 | lbt | git merge origin/hildon-desktop |
| 19:53.07 | lbt | to merge remote branches into it |
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| 19:53.32 | fiferboy | Got it, thanks |
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| 21:21.25 | parigaudi | hi |
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| 21:22.12 | parigaudi | i just got a bluetooth usb dongle and would like to use it to connect my n810 to internet (my pc being the gateway) |
| 21:22.53 | parigaudi | searching around for the configuration for this, i've found quite mixed info that doesn't really help me |
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| 21:23.22 | parigaudi | for one: on the pc side (linux) i have bluez and pand |
| 21:24.01 | parigaudi | but if i understand correctly, there's no pand any more for maemo and one has to use some weird dbus stuff there ? |
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| 21:44.05 | johnsq | Hi |
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| 21:48.36 | coldboot | I found an extremely obscure bug that only happens in Scratchbox 2 or on the nokia device. |
| 21:52.16 | coldboot | When you click on the "Hello" button once or twice, in Scratchbox 2 or on the device, then click on the white square, which is a QTableView, you will see a brief flash. This is because the code is calling QMainWindow::setCentralWidget() and starting a QEventLoop. Here's the source: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/17699/qt-bug-test-table.tar.bz2 |
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| 22:25.25 | etrunko | does anyone know more about hildon-desktop[30560]: GLIB WARNING ** ClutterGLX - Pixmap with depth bellow 24 are not supported |
| 22:27.53 | lcuk | etrunko, clutter works on full color images possibly? |
| 22:28.01 | lcuk | would read it that way |
| 22:32.12 | etrunko | lcuk: yeah, looking at the clutter code it's exactly what happens |
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| 22:32.49 | etrunko | https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/clutter0.8/clutter/glx/clutter-glx-texture-pixmap.c |
| 22:33.03 | lcuk | your engine is 16bit isnt it |
| 22:33.06 | lcuk | http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=CLUTTER_TEXTURE_FLAG_16_BIT |
| 22:33.09 | etrunko | lcuk: yup |
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| 22:33.36 | lcuk | what happens if you disable clutter? |
| 22:33.57 | lcuk | this theoretical gamemode which would shutdown the compositing |
| 22:34.11 | lcuk | or you could rendering into an rgb xvideo plane if it exists on device |
| 22:34.37 | lcuk | or are you wanting clutterygoodness :D |
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| 22:35.03 | etrunko | lcuk: hmmm.. will try to disable it |
| 22:35.13 | lcuk | not sure of consequencies yet |
| 22:35.23 | lcuk | its just being formulated for people who want gl |
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| 23:02.18 | smackpotat | will noki repair a bricked device |
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| 23:56.30 | xnt14 | ~seen b-man16 |
| 23:56.34 | infobot | b-man16 <n=b-man@pool-71-124-32-204.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 8h 47m 35s ago, saying: 'awesome :)'. |
| 23:56.39 | xnt14 | xD |
| 23:56.57 | xnt14 | sits down and tries emacs |
| 23:57.17 | locutus | on a n810? :P |
| 23:57.22 | xnt14 | um no :P |
| 23:57.26 | xnt14 | desktop |
| 23:57.36 | xnt14 | apt-get install emacs |
| 23:57.46 | xnt14 | reading database... |
| 23:57.47 | xnt14 | :P |
| 23:57.54 | locutus | i know what emacs is |
| 23:58.01 | locutus | i use XEmacs |
| 23:58.05 | xnt14 | I know |
| 23:59.29 | xnt14 | will try to get emacs running on an n810 later |
| 23:59.46 | xnt14 | xmonad + emacs = ? |
| 23:59.48 | xnt14 | nah |
