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| 00:00.54 | Noma | Luke-Jr: google translated: Login name (do not use capital letters) * :p |
| 00:01.22 | Luke-Jr | ah, good |
| 00:01.25 | Luke-Jr | Google has an English copy |
| 00:01.28 | Luke-Jr | http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:LFH21dmJmfkJ:https://garage.maemo.org/account/register.php+https://garage.maemo.org/account/register.php&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk |
| 00:02.22 | pnk | hi guys, i have question to you, my file chooser's opening time is very long, how can i speed it up? (running on maemo sdk/gtk/hildon) |
| 00:03.18 | Luke-Jr | OH YAY |
| 00:03.24 | Luke-Jr | registering lets me change language to English |
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| 00:04.47 | pnk | guys somebody met this problem? |
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| 01:16.14 | bef0rd | Hola |
| 01:23.00 | s0m0ne0utsdeTher | Hossa too |
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| 02:02.35 | Macer | well |
| 02:02.44 | Macer | after using nexenta and opensolaris.. nexenta kind of sucks :) |
| 02:03.03 | Macer | opensolaris makes a much cleaner server |
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| 02:27.47 | b-man16 | *cough* |
| 02:35.54 | FireFox` | overloads his tablet while using gcc |
| 02:36.07 | kkrusty | is done with a python script that does bt queries and then speaks its findings with flite |
| 02:36.15 | kkrusty | s/bt/bluetooth/ |
| 02:36.59 | FireFox` | is building a LFS system on his tablet :) |
| 02:38.12 | kkrusty | this should be fun; going to work and hearing all the names of bluetooth devices |
| 02:38.21 | kkrusty | that I encounter on the way |
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| 02:39.18 | kkrusty | its also going to tell me when I last encountered a device, kind of a way to tell when I last met someone |
| 02:42.16 | Luke-Jr | kkrusty: how about the device's security level, type, etc? |
| 02:42.35 | Luke-Jr | "this guy you met exactly a week ago, and just met again, has an insecure phone" |
| 02:42.38 | kkrusty | Luke-Jr well that isnt done yet |
| 02:43.01 | kkrusty | Luke-Jr will depend on there being the desired functionality through python |
| 02:43.07 | Luke-Jr | :þ |
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| 02:48.58 | kkrusty | Luke-Jr consider it on my todo list though |
| 02:49.38 | kkrusty | heads off to bed |
| 02:49.42 | Luke-Jr | kkrusty: waiiit |
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| 02:49.46 | Luke-Jr | aww |
| 02:49.58 | b-man16 | hm |
| 02:50.56 | Luke-Jr | b-man16: he has an earlier curfew than you! |
| 02:50.56 | b-man16 | XD |
| 02:51.02 | Luke-Jr | b-man16: how goes the Gentoo? |
| 02:51.39 | b-man16 | something came up this morning and i wasn't able to re install it :( |
| 02:51.48 | Luke-Jr | why re-install?! |
| 02:52.32 | b-man16 | a couple of days ago i removed it for webos hacking |
| 02:53.09 | Luke-Jr | x.x |
| 02:53.14 | Luke-Jr | b-man16: need more SD cards? |
| 02:53.29 | b-man16 | yeah xD |
| 02:53.56 | Luke-Jr | I have more than I know what to do with XD |
| 02:54.08 | b-man16 | only has a 4gb and 2gb card XD |
| 02:54.11 | Luke-Jr | would be nice if I had a second slot on my N810 for removable |
| 02:54.19 | Luke-Jr | has 8 GB, 4 GB, and 2 GB, he thinks |
| 02:54.25 | b-man16 | heh |
| 02:55.08 | b-man16 | is thinking about buying an 8gb |
| 02:55.19 | b-man16 | i need it XD |
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| 02:56.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | is there some howto that lists the steps to crosscompile with scratchbox from 686-debian-lenny to maemo4.1? |
| 02:57.01 | b-man16 | luke-jr: btw, did you see my new site? http://b-man.xceleo.org/ |
| 02:57.20 | Luke-Jr | b-man.xceleo.org | Welcome |
| 02:57.22 | Luke-Jr | This slideshow requires Adobe Flash Player 9.0 (or higher). JavaScript must be enabled. |
| 02:57.23 | Luke-Jr | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.30 | b-man16 | hm |
| 02:57.53 | b-man16 | you don't have flash? xD |
| 02:58.04 | Luke-Jr | of course not |
| 02:58.08 | Luke-Jr | I hate that crap |
| 02:58.21 | Luke-Jr | plus, it's propreitary |
| 02:58.29 | Luke-Jr | I'm perfectly happy with STANDARDS-COMPLIANT web |
| 02:58.37 | Luke-Jr | which apparently doesn't include your site |
| 02:58.49 | b-man16 | heh |
| 02:59.27 | b-man16 | i'm working on making it use jquery instead of flash ;) |
| 02:59.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | nice... dancing desktops... exactly the cpu-hog you want to forget somewhere in the background |
| 02:59.50 | b-man16 | lol |
| 03:00.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | the pages behind that have pretty good performance though |
| 03:00.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | they print "null" in a couple of ms |
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| 03:02.44 | b-man16 | it's a work in progress ;) |
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| 03:03.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | so you decided to make all the useless fancy stuff first and see if some content turns up lateron? |
| 03:03.39 | Luke-Jr | lol |
| 03:04.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | sorry if that sounded a bit unfriendly, but I got Views on this |
| 03:05.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course, with all the blogs and youtube videos around the word "content" gets a new meaning also |
| 03:07.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | mind to put "Last updated Feb 9 1856" on the bottom of the pages |
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| 03:21.17 | Fox | jumps on #anime |
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| 03:23.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | sends 10 dogs after Fox |
| 03:23.31 | Fox | lol |
| 03:23.45 | Fox | runs into a hole |
| 03:25.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | watches as the dogs dig Fox out and tear him to pieces |
| 03:26.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | they call it a sport, btw. |
| 03:26.26 | Fox | figures out another route away from danger |
| 03:26.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | you're already in pieces! |
| 03:28.26 | Fox | is agenst sports that include harming animals |
| 03:29.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | 's against animals that include harming sports |
| 03:29.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually I couldn't care less about sports |
| 03:30.14 | Fox | i just dont like the idea of killing animals as a sport |
| 03:30.21 | Macer | are there any folding@home irc #s? |
| 03:30.30 | Luke-Jr | every time I see a bunny |
| 03:30.34 | Luke-Jr | I think about cooking it up for supper |
| 03:30.39 | Fox | :P |
| 03:30.47 | Luke-Jr | just ask my wife |
| 03:31.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | she's a bunny? |
| 03:31.38 | Fox | rofl |
| 03:31.56 | Luke-Jr | no -.- |
| 03:32.01 | Luke-Jr | I comment on the idea sometimes |
| 03:33.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | isn't that cruel if she's a bunny? |
| 03:33.35 | Fox | lol |
| 03:35.01 | Luke-Jr | glares at Fox, aka b-man |
| 03:35.15 | Fox | dont call me an idiot then :p |
| 03:35.58 | Luke-Jr | Fox: don't use flash then |
| 03:38.31 | Luke-Jr | Fox: what are you? |
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| 05:13.58 | GAN800 | sighs at pig-headed silliness. |
| 05:14.23 | GAN800 | I can see this FBReader insanity is going to be a difficult and time wasting fight. |
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| 05:15.51 | GAN800 | doesn't get why slightly easing the support for users who may number in the tens at the clear expense of the rest of your thousands of users is so important. |
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| 05:48.03 | wazd_n800 | morning maemo) |
| 05:50.00 | rkirti | wazd_n800: morning |
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| 09:55.22 | pnk | hi guys, i have problem with gtk and textview, i'm trying to display utf-8, but gets error :/ (my code&errors pastebin.com/d9b47d1f) Could anybody help me, please? |
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| 13:10.53 | bobpaul | when the new browser first came out you could switch backends. mozilla is pretty heavy and really bogs down on some sites. Can one still change backends? is there a webkit backend? |
| 13:11.08 | qwerty12_N810 | google webkit-eal |
| 13:11.31 | qwerty12_N810 | or if you hate default browser entirely: google tear |
| 13:12.23 | bobpaul | thanks. eal sounds familiar. it's been a while ;) |
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| 13:25.57 | n6pfk | I have several full screen videos which were playing nicely on the N810 using mplayer. Now the show as less than full screen with distorted colors. Is there a way to restore the play back? |
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| 13:38.21 | n6pfk | Ok I changed the -vo to x11 and it now plays nice. |
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| 13:47.17 | Raho | Hello! I'm looking for a description on how to install the os2007 "hacker edition" on the 770, using a WindowsXP computer. Does someone have a link to a tutorial or a flashing software? |
| 13:48.42 | Mikho | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 14:20.44 | jophish | booting from a flash card, can I use ext2/3 instead of fat32? |
| 14:20.51 | jophish | for the internal memory card |
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| 14:40.19 | labaudio | !ny clue about rgb njoy format table??? |
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| 14:41.52 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, weird thing, though, is that FBReader seems to be the only one that does. |
| 14:42.11 | GAN800 | Supporting the offline use-case is particularly silly in Fremantle. |
| 14:42.57 | Stskeeps | GAN800: admittedly - but i agree that the user/ requirement for locally installed debs is insane |
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| 14:43.41 | Stskeeps | i'd like to see the reasoning for that one |
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| 14:52.16 | GAN800 | Protecting the user |
| 14:52.29 | GAN800 | They can't uninstall them later. |
| 14:57.31 | Stskeeps | ah. |
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| 15:15.49 | Jaffa | keesj: ping |
| 15:15.54 | Jaffa | GAN800: ping |
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| 15:19.54 | GAN800 | pong? |
| 15:20.14 | Jaffa | see pm :) |
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| 15:25.24 | jophish | is there any way to flash the rootfs from a fiasco image to the internal sd card |
| 15:25.37 | jophish | I've tried playing around with the options |
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| 15:32.42 | ShadowJK | jophish, I imagine it wouldn't be easy |
| 15:32.52 | jophish | ah ok |
| 15:32.57 | ShadowJK | well, flashing it could be trivial, but reading it isn't :) |
| 15:33.06 | jophish | ah, no simple way |
| 15:33.20 | jophish | I may as well flash the flash |
| 15:33.24 | jophish | and copy that over |
| 15:33.41 | jophish | with the script here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card#Clone_to_the_card |
| 15:33.51 | ShadowJK | the internal flash is jffs2, which isn't designed for mmc/sd type storage |
| 15:33.57 | jophish | sure |
| 15:34.01 | ShadowJK | The image on the internal flash is jffs2, I mean |
| 15:34.10 | jophish | yes, that makes sense |
| 15:34.22 | jophish | Just wanting a clean install on the internal sd |
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| 15:34.45 | jophish | but then what do I do with the internal flash |
| 15:34.56 | jophish | going to be wasted space I guess |
| 15:34.58 | johnsq | Hi |
| 15:35.06 | jophish | hi |
| 15:35.06 | ShadowJK | well it's just 256M of wasted space.. ;) |
| 15:36.22 | jophish | I wonder if I could install mer there |
| 15:36.22 | jophish | or another os |
| 15:36.22 | jophish | they have a flashable image |
| 15:37.51 | johnsq | buy a 16gb card than you didn't need the 256mb |
| 15:38.24 | jophish | sure, I don't need it anyway |
| 15:38.29 | jophish | just being a pedant |
| 15:39.15 | jophish | so, clean install of diablo |
| 15:39.22 | jophish | shift that to the internal mmc |
| 15:39.33 | jophish | (which is one big ext2 partition) |
| 15:39.40 | jophish | then install mer on the flash |
| 15:40.00 | jophish | *big ext2 partition, except for a 128mb swap |
| 15:40.41 | jophish | nothing's wrong with that? |
| 15:40.51 | johnsq | why not ext3? |
| 15:41.07 | jophish | yes, I meant that |
| 15:41.13 | jophish | thanks |
| 15:41.57 | jophish | would it be difficult to share the home partitions between them |
| 15:42.00 | jophish | on the internal ssd |
| 15:42.54 | johnsq | I would only share the data directory. |
| 15:43.52 | jophish | what do you mean by that |
| 15:44.12 | jophish | symbolic links in each OS's home to the same places? |
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| 15:44.45 | johnsq | in the home are also the . files, which I wouldn't share just documents. |
| 15:44.58 | jophish | alright |
| 15:45.19 | jophish | so for the mer home, all the documents and whatnot, symlink to the the maemo's home's folders |
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| 15:45.31 | johnsq | yeah |
| 15:45.43 | jophish | that does seem like a sensible thing to do |
| 15:45.46 | jophish | thanks for youe help |
| 15:45.49 | jophish | your* |
| 15:46.02 | jophish | I wonder if there is anything else I can share between the two |
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| 16:16.55 | jophish | e2fsprogs is not in extras, should I correct the wiki page here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card#Install_the_necessary_tools |
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| 16:27.32 | jophish | in what package is sfdisk included? |
| 16:27.39 | jophish | not in e2fsprogs |
| 16:27.56 | qwerty12_N810 | it comes with the table |
| 16:27.59 | qwerty12_N810 | t |
| 16:28.24 | jophish | hmm |
| 16:28.30 | jophish | I don't seem to have it |
| 16:28.34 | jophish | clean diable flash |
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| 16:28.40 | qwerty12_N810 | and you're root? |
| 16:28.56 | jophish | ah that was it |
| 16:29.13 | jophish | only shows up as root |
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| 16:29.20 | jophish | thanks |
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| 16:35.40 | jophish | where could I find mke3fs |
| 16:43.02 | slonopotamus | mkfs -t ext3 |
| 16:43.22 | johnsq | mkext2 -j |
| 16:43.41 | keesj | Jaffa: Pang! |
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| 16:44.04 | jophish | I'm afraid I don't have either of those commands |
| 16:44.48 | johnsq | jophish: sorry mke2fs is it |
| 16:45.08 | jophish | with journalling I presume |
| 16:45.49 | johnsq | yes with -j you get than the ext3, I have used -I 128 to make inodes smaller and use less space |
| 16:46.36 | jophish | uppercase I? |
| 16:46.53 | johnsq | yes |
| 16:47.37 | jophish | listed on die.net as a lowercase |
| 16:47.54 | johnsq | seems that the maemo version didn't have it |
| 16:48.05 | jophish | ah |
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| 16:49.06 | slonopotamus | -t ext3 is igeologically more correct :P |
| 16:50.14 | johnsq | slonopotamus: my kernel with make n800_defconfig, didn't compile, the correct is make nokia_2420_defconfig |
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| 16:52.39 | jophish | thanks |
| 16:54.19 | slonopotamus | johnsq, i recommend layman -S, there were problems again with cx3110x, hope they are all resolved now |
| 16:55.02 | johnsq | I currently compile the X part, so I can't test. but it is in the queue |
| 16:55.17 | slonopotamus | k. X should be easy |
| 16:55.46 | slonopotamus | still has weird things with keypad actually |
| 16:57.37 | johnsq | I will see, I have expierience with the linux input layer. |
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| 16:57.53 | slonopotamus | good |
| 16:58.03 | slonopotamus | johnsq, what xorg version btw? |
| 16:59.54 | johnsq | slonopotamus: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r6 |
| 17:01.16 | Jaffa | keesj: it was about the summit stuff, but I've made my idea public(ish) now :) |
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| 17:01.41 | jophish | -t ext3 didn't work |
| 17:01.44 | jophish | so I used 'j |
| 17:02.30 | johnsq | check if you have enough files, before you fill the flash. |
| 17:04.49 | jophish | what do you mean? |
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| 17:05.30 | johnsq | jophish: the the number of inodes is big enough. |
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| 17:06.09 | jophish | too late, already formatted it |
| 17:07.08 | jophish | using -I 128 |
| 17:07.29 | johnsq | Is didn't change the number of inodes, only the size. |
| 17:07.47 | jophish | that's what I though |
| 17:07.51 | jophish | thought |
| 17:07.54 | jophish | I susnt change -i |
| 17:08.04 | jophish | what could the problem's be with using the default? |
| 17:08.11 | jophish | didn't* |
| 17:08.48 | johnsq | you get out of space on the flash |
| 17:09.09 | johnsq | happend me compiling gcc after many hours |
| 17:10.04 | johnsq | tune2fs -l /dev/mmcblk... <- to check |
| 17:11.51 | jophish | 245269 inodes |
| 17:11.56 | jophish | that's lots of files |
| 17:12.07 | johnsq | yea, I had only 90k |
| 17:12.38 | jophish | what did you do |
| 17:12.42 | jophish | copy and reformat I guess |
| 17:13.16 | johnsq | yes. backup on pc, reformat now with 1million and back |
| 17:13.34 | jophish | is there any way to change the default mount options, specifically to add noatime |
| 17:14.21 | qwerty12_N810 | in latest diablo, noatime is default |
| 17:14.27 | johnsq | i don't know but you can change them with tune2fs, but if mount from maemo supports it? |
| 17:14.37 | jophish | ah great |
| 17:17.14 | johnsq | why is sys-fs/sshfs-fuse masked on arm gentoo? |
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| 17:23.00 | jophish | this script: http://www.nmacleod.com/nokia/bin/nupgrade.sh |
| 17:23.21 | jophish | changing the partition to p1 should make it consider the first partition instead of the second |
| 17:24.02 | jophish | it says in the blurb that only the second partition is considered, this is not a technical reason? |
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| 18:02.16 | radic | will it work to dump /dev/mtdblock4 to a file on a SD-Card? |
| 18:02.45 | johnsq | why shouldn't it work? |
| 18:03.02 | radic | hmm |
| 18:11.08 | slonopotamus | please open http://gitorious.org/mer in microb and any other browser. do you see same thing? |
| 18:12.25 | jophish | what am I supposed to be seeing? |
| 18:12.30 | qwerty12_N810 | no. does the page have an rss feed? |
| 18:13.36 | johnsq | yes, i see the rss logo with firefox |
| 18:14.00 | jophish | me too |
| 18:14.11 | jophish | I see the feed in mocrob |
| 18:14.15 | jophish | microb* |
| 18:14.46 | slonopotamus | i wonder whos bug it is |
| 18:14.59 | slonopotamus | s/whos/whose/ |
| 18:16.02 | lbt | what's the prob slonopotamus? (no microb to hand) |
| 18:16.36 | slonopotamus | lbt, microb shows activity log on white bg and nothing else |
| 18:16.48 | lbt | ah |
| 18:17.16 | slonopotamus | can make a shot, if you want |
| 18:17.54 | lbt | not for me right now.. :) food in a sec |
| 18:19.01 | slonopotamus | looks like gitorious gives rss feed instead of page contents to microb |
| 18:19.44 | jophish | wonder why? |
| 18:19.57 | jophish | must be a deliberate feature |
| 18:20.45 | slonopotamus | maybe they just don't like microb :) |
| 18:21.00 | jophish | "heheh this will surely confuse them!" |
| 18:21.50 | slonopotamus | maybe something wrong with microb Accept-Encoding feature |
| 18:22.09 | slonopotamus | rss has same url as page itself? (no ff here) |
| 18:22.44 | slonopotamus | that's just a wild guess |
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| 18:27.59 | jophish | How is the virtual memory organised in maemo |
| 18:28.18 | jophish | because I think that I have a ghost virtual memory file |
| 18:28.43 | slonopotamus | wtf is 'ghost virtual memory file'? |
| 18:29.29 | jophish | does maemo create a hidden file for virtual memory? |
| 18:29.41 | jophish | because I think I have two on me memory card |
| 18:29.53 | jophish | because I'm missing about 128mb space |
| 18:29.59 | jophish | probably exactly |
| 18:30.18 | qwerty12_N810 | /media/mmc2/.swap |
| 18:30.20 | johnsq | swapfile |
| 18:31.06 | jophish | so there can't be more than one? |
| 18:32.41 | wazd | heya maemo |
| 18:33.08 | qwerty12_N810 | hullo wazd |
| 18:33.09 | jophish | howdy |
| 18:33.29 | wazd | just got back from nokia mobile camp |
| 18:33.54 | wazd | have some really interesting shocking info bout maemo but don't know if I'm allowed to tell it :D |
| 18:34.10 | Corsac | (does âtumblerâ rings a bell around?) |
| 18:34.28 | slonopotamus | wazd, maemo is deprecated? :) |
| 18:34.47 | wazd | guess how many maemo devices will come up in 2010? (instead of rx-51 and rx-71 in 2009) |
| 18:34.57 | slonopotamus | 0 |
| 18:35.00 | wazd | instead = along |
| 18:35.26 | Stskeeps | wazd: does mer devices count? ;p |
| 18:35.40 | wazd | Stskeeps: fremantle only :D |
| 18:35.40 | Corsac | wazd: 42? |
| 18:35.43 | jophish | 44? 12.6? |
| 18:35.51 | Corsac | wazd: Pi ? |
| 18:36.04 | wazd | you will be really surprised :) |
| 18:36.04 | jophish | oh, be rational Corsac! |
| 18:36.11 | Corsac | :)) |
| 18:36.14 | wazd | 14! |
| 18:36.15 | jophish | i? |
| 18:36.19 | Corsac | e? |
| 18:36.25 | johnsq | I need only one. |
| 18:36.26 | qwerty12_N810 | 14? |
| 18:36.28 | jophish | 14? |
| 18:36.48 | wazd | well, that was my reaction :) |
| 18:36.48 | jophish | wow |
| 18:36.48 | jophish | all nokia or what? |
| 18:36.51 | Corsac | how many not from nokia? |
| 18:36.54 | wazd | I was like "eeer, fourteen?@) |
| 18:37.21 | wazd | Corsac: dunno bout this |
| 18:38.05 | johnsq | has the maemo on screen keyboard cursor keys? if not who has designed it? |
| 18:38.07 | wazd | rx-71 exists and it's cool :) |
| 18:38.25 | Corsac | do you have an ETA for leaks? |
| 18:38.26 | Corsac | :> |
| 18:38.42 | johnsq | engadget.com has e72 |
| 18:38.57 | wazd | I haven't signed any NDA so I don't think that I'll be punnished for this |
| 18:38.57 | Corsac | maemo based?? |
| 18:39.14 | Stskeeps | wazd: did they make you write on a big piece of paper? |
| 18:39.19 | Stskeeps | if so, did you look under it? :> |
| 18:39.49 | wazd | no, it was just an ordinary discussion with nokia related person :) |
| 18:40.24 | wazd | but not nokia employee |
| 18:40.28 | Stskeeps | russian "ordinary" = "plenty of vodka included"? ;) |
| 18:40.37 | johnsq | lol |
| 18:40.44 | wazd | Stskeeps: nah, there were no alcohol at all :( |
| 18:41.46 | jophish | 14, that's quite a lot |
| 18:41.49 | Corsac | hmhm, e72 looks nice |
| 18:42.00 | Corsac | but I'm not sure it'll match against the n900 |
| 18:42.00 | Corsac | ¬¬ |
| 18:42.10 | wazd | as i was told rx-71 is a slider phone :) |
| 18:42.24 | Corsac | well, if they manage to correctly handle calendar, contacts sync etc. |
| 18:42.28 | wazd | haven't seen it for myself anyway |
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| 18:42.38 | wazd | Corsac: full pim |
| 18:42.45 | Corsac | for fremantle> |
| 18:42.45 | Corsac | ? |
| 18:42.48 | Stskeeps | yeah, but that one is known |
| 18:42.53 | wazd | Corsac: yep |
| 18:43.00 | Corsac | \o/ |
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| 18:48.30 | jophish | what's 12mb+2mb+156mb, maemo seems to think it's 343mb |
| 18:48.36 | wazd | what else can I tell you without being killed :) |
| 18:49.04 | Stskeeps | wazd: i can tell by your joy that i should buy one anyway :P |
| 18:49.16 | jophish | have you any pictures? |
| 18:49.34 | wazd | jophish: are you crazy? :) |
| 18:49.41 | jophish | used space on a card |
| 18:50.27 | ShadowJK | the internal flash is compressed |
| 18:51.36 | jophish | this is the internal sd card |
| 18:51.43 | jophish | says in use 343MB |
| 18:51.55 | jophish | however all it has on it, is a clone of the internal flash |
| 18:52.02 | jophish | after a clean flash |
| 18:52.27 | qwerty12_N810 | yes, and like ShadowJK said, the internal flash is compressed. your sd card is not |
| 18:52.33 | jophish | oh I see |
| 18:52.51 | jophish | sorry |
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| 19:06.30 | kkrusty | hmmm I got 173 new bluetooth lookup results in 3 hours. |
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| 19:07.09 | kkrusty | and Im sick of hearing "xxxx first found now" |
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| 19:11.44 | jophish | how does maemo mount the external sd card? |
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| 19:12.20 | jophish | because I moved maemo to the internal sd card, and it has trouble finding the card |
| 19:12.34 | jophish | I can see it all in xterm, after manually mounting it |
| 19:12.43 | jophish | but it doesn't appear in the file manager |
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| 19:12.59 | slonopotamus | maemo needs first partition to be fat32 |
| 19:13.06 | slonopotamus | s/32// |
| 19:13.21 | jophish | hmm, that'd odd |
| 19:13.43 | jophish | because when I boot into maemo (exactly the same) on the internal flash, it detects the card |
| 19:13.52 | jophish | at the moment it's ext3 |
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| 19:18.17 | johnsq | jophish: mine shows both card, i made only 1 ext3 partion on each |
| 19:18.28 | jophish | that's the same setup as me |
| 19:18.42 | jophish | I see the internal card, with one ext3 partition |
| 19:18.45 | jophish | but no external card |
| 19:21.13 | jophish | oh rats, now I can't even see the internal card, despite booting off it |
| 19:21.39 | jophish | but I can see the external one |
| 19:21.45 | jophish | what a conundrum! |
| 19:21.51 | slonopotamus | hehe |
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| 19:26.23 | jophish | taking out the external card causes me to reboot |
| 19:26.27 | jophish | sigh |
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| 19:29.44 | jophish | and when the external card isn't in, I don't see the internal card |
| 19:30.09 | jophish | but plugging it in while maemo is running allows me to see it |
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| 19:31.20 | qwerty12_N800 | N810? https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2747 |
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| 19:32.40 | jophish | that's exactly the one |
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| 19:38.27 | lbt | Jaffa: can you upgrade git on badger? |
| 19:39.13 | Jaffa | lbt: hmm, tricksy. It's debian stable so... can you check if it's in the backports? |
| 19:39.47 | lbt | oh, I thought it was 1.5.x in stable.... |
| 19:40.43 | lbt | is it oldstable? |
| 19:41.44 | lbt | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/git-core ? |
| 19:42.26 | Jaffa | Hmm, yeah - oldstable |
| 19:43.28 | Jaffa | 1.5 in etch-backports |
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| 19:44.26 | lbt | you may be interested in http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build/UsingGitorious#Moving_a_Package_to_Gitorious |
| 19:46.48 | Jaffa | lbt: upgrading git |
| 19:46.57 | lbt | great - ta :) |
| 19:48.36 | Jaffa | andrew@badger:~ $ git --version |
| 19:48.36 | Jaffa | git version 1.5.6.5 |
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| 19:49.39 | lbt | ta |
| 19:57.29 | jophish | rats, seems like I cane ave rotation and a mmc card fix |
| 19:57.45 | jophish | oh well, never used rotation much anyway |
| 19:58.30 | qwerty12_N800 | compile your own kernel :) |
| 20:00.31 | jophish | this is another one of those slippery slopes |
| 20:00.43 | jophish | when I start to compile my own, it will break other things |
| 20:00.43 | locutus | win 37 |
| 20:01.02 | jophish | compiling a kernel for the NDS was a nightmare |
| 20:04.34 | jophish | how can I get a new kernel onto maemo which is on the internal sd card |
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| 20:09.57 | RST38h | moo all |
| 20:10.08 | jophish | hi |
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| 20:12.18 | qwerty12_N800 | jophish: unzip/untar file containing zImage and as root, run fiasco-flasher -f -k <path to zImage>. The kernel is on a separate partition in the flashed that is used by whatever system you're booting into be it flash, mmc etc |
| 20:12.33 | jophish | I see |
| 20:12.37 | jophish | thanks very much |
| 20:13.41 | johnsq | qwerty12_N800: but no separate kernel for different boots. |
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| 20:13.59 | qwerty12_N800 | johnsq: indeed |
| 20:14.26 | jophish | presumably, two maemo's would use the same kernel, but what about mer? |
| 20:15.07 | qwerty12_N800 | mer uses whatever kernel happens to be flashed to the tablet |
| 20:15.13 | jophish | ok |
| 20:22.33 | johnsq | somebody working on new bootloader (xloader iirc) |
| 20:22.38 | johnsq | +? |
| 20:23.17 | Stskeeps | johnsq: if you bust NOLO, X-loader you have bricked your device quite hard |
| 20:23.25 | Stskeeps | so no, we're just happy with x-loader |
| 20:24.36 | johnsq | sure this a problem, but it is nokia fault, that it can only boot one kernel image. |
| 20:24.58 | Stskeeps | .. how is this a fault |
| 20:25.06 | jophish | is there any way to change where maemo puts the virtual memory file? |
| 20:25.09 | Stskeeps | afaik i think it can boot from sd too but that's another topic |
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| 21:31.48 | kkrusty | is there a way to control canola with a symbian phone? |
| 21:32.57 | timeless_mbp | heh |
| 21:33.04 | timeless_mbp | use rhapsody/rhapsody remote instead :) |
| 21:33.31 | kkrusty | timeless_mbp: cool! thanks |
| 21:33.42 | kkrusty | some things are just beyond google ya know |
| 21:34.19 | timeless_mbp | kkrusty: you need to be in the US :( |
| 21:34.55 | kkrusty | timeless_mbp: for what? |
| 21:35.18 | timeless_mbp | to use rhapsody |
| 21:35.41 | kkrusty | really? why is that? |
| 21:35.49 | timeless_mbp | they're a company |
| 21:35.53 | timeless_mbp | and they license music |
| 21:36.06 | timeless_mbp | the groups they license music from are annoying :) |
| 21:36.14 | kkrusty | oh right! I thought it was just a media player |
| 21:36.32 | kkrusty | timeless_mbp: just like hulu then eh? |
| 21:36.41 | timeless_mbp | closer to last.fm these days |
| 21:36.47 | timeless_mbp | since hulu is Video |
| 21:36.51 | timeless_mbp | and rhaspdoy is Music |
| 21:37.20 | kkrusty | I havent used last.fm much TBH |
| 21:37.20 | timeless_mbp | but yeah, if you want to do hulu:video::rhapsody:music |
| 21:37.20 | timeless_mbp | it works |
| 21:37.20 | timeless_mbp | i've only used last.fm in the US |
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| 21:37.28 | kkrusty | and they wonder why people pirate |
| 21:37.35 | timeless_mbp | doesn't |
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| 21:45.23 | prahal | If I try something up to date for n770 (yes I still only own this model) what is the best optioin (not the safe one) : 2006, 2007HE or another one ? |
| 21:46.26 | prahal | My main point is to use it as an ebook reader (fbreader) and gps (navit) |
| 21:47.40 | prahal | otherwise I am seeking bleeding edge for better "interoperability" (as in better connection manager, fuse fs) |
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| 22:19.49 | jophish | can maemo use the mer kernel? |
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| 23:28.09 | b-man16 | ~seen xnt14 |
| 23:28.11 | infobot | xnt14 <n=xnt@96.246.48.44> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 1d 22h 56m 29s ago, saying: 'brb'. |
| 23:28.20 | b-man16 | heh |
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| 23:38.51 | johnx | morning |
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