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| 00:04.57 | jaem_N810 | ds3: I've used my battery since mid-September last year, and it's still just fine, if that helps |
| 00:05.05 | jaem_N810 | it depends on your usage patterns |
| 00:09.00 | Macer | lol |
| 00:09.01 | Macer | Mac OS X will be available in September with an upgrade price of $29, a big notch less expensive than the $129 price of earlier upgrades. |
| 00:09.06 | Macer | just goes to show how much work they did on it |
| 00:09.21 | Macer | all they did was just build 64bit apps and tack the word "snow" onto the name of it |
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| 00:10.29 | xnt14 | hello world ! :) |
| 00:10.36 | tank-man | is it really $29 |
| 00:10.48 | xnt14 | tank-man: what? |
| 00:10.57 | derf | That depends on how well written those apps are. Just look at how long it took Adobe to build a 64-bit Flash. |
| 00:11.06 | tank-man | future mac os x upgrade |
| 00:11.08 | derf | Commercial code is notoriously horrible. |
| 00:11.16 | xnt14 | backs up his nit root partition |
| 00:11.22 | xnt14 | oh ok |
| 00:11.24 | xnt14 | snow leo? |
| 00:11.36 | tank-man | yes |
| 00:11.41 | xnt14 | oh ok :P |
| 00:11.55 | xnt14 | will just get his mbp after snow leo comes out :P |
| 00:12.52 | ds3 | hmmm |
| 00:12.56 | xnt14 | guys, is it possible to make a hw button run a script? |
| 00:13.05 | xnt14 | ~seen qwerty12 |
| 00:13.06 | infobot | qwerty12 <n=faheem@78-86-35-231.zone2.bethere.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 6h 52m 42s ago, saying: 'wazd_: It was nice knowin..eek..'. |
| 00:13.24 | ds3 | jaem_N810:do you keep it on the charger a lot? |
| 00:13.26 | xnt14 | not here right now... |
| 00:13.34 | xnt14 | well he would know |
| 00:13.45 | xnt14 | qwerty12 = master of scripting :P |
| 00:13.49 | xnt14 | for the nit |
| 00:14.21 | ds3 | I am seeing odd behavior where it goes down to about 50% of the bar then all of a sudden I get a low battery warning...trying to figure out if my battery is too old (it is coming up on 1.5 years now) |
| 00:14.44 | xnt14 | ds3: are you talking about the mbp or nit? |
| 00:16.13 | LiraNuna | <ds3> jaem_N810:do you keep it on the charger a lot? |
| 00:16.29 | LiraNuna | is it a bad practice? |
| 00:17.03 | Macer | heh |
| 00:18.22 | tank-man | yea, it wastes energy, it says so on the screen. global warming and stuff |
| 00:18.41 | xnt14 | :P |
| 00:18.43 | xnt14 | lol |
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| 00:22.19 | tank-man | "An engineer from Nokia's UK research labs says that the company is developing technology that can harvest ambient electromagnetic radiation to keep a cellphone going. " |
| 00:23.00 | tank-man | ambient, that means free right? :) |
| 00:25.18 | lcuk | yes, your phone will become an EM sink |
| 00:25.23 | xnt14 | lol |
| 00:25.30 | xnt14 | wireless electricity |
| 00:26.08 | xnt14 | next thing you know, we'll have wpa2 for wi-em |
| 00:26.10 | xnt14 | :P |
| 00:26.18 | xnt14 | * "wi-em" |
| 00:26.22 | Macer | lol |
| 00:26.23 | Macer | 10 Jun 19:26:03 ntpdate[15321]: step time server 198.123.30.132 offset -18299.368555 sec |
| 00:26.26 | Macer | oops |
| 00:27.04 | jaem_N810 | ds3: sorry, I was afk |
| 00:27.16 | jaem_N810 | I keep it on the charger when I'm in bed or at my desk |
| 00:27.27 | ds3 | xnt14: mbp? whats that? |
| 00:27.45 | jaem_N810 | but I carry it around quite literally everywhere except the shower |
| 00:27.49 | xnt14 | ds3: nevermind, I don't want to start a flamewar, GA would kill me :P |
| 00:28.09 | ds3 | xnt14: stock OS2008 N800 if it matters |
| 00:28.23 | jaem_N810 | xnt14: I think powerlaunch may be able to do that (the hw button thing) |
| 00:28.37 | xnt14 | :) |
| 00:28.45 | ds3 | jaem_N810: my charge pattern is a bit different then. I only charge it at night but I carry it around |
| 00:29.03 | xnt14 | is waiting for his current os2008 to backup so he can reflash to stock |
| 00:29.08 | ds3 | maybe 1.5years has the battery worn |
| 00:29.12 | Luke-Jr | pfft, stock |
| 00:33.38 | Luke-Jr | who is pmoulder? |
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| 00:44.25 | pupnik | maemo-launcher is going crazy with memory: can i restart? |
| 00:44.33 | pupnik | tablet too slow to google |
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| 00:56.53 | xnt14 | im back |
| 00:57.05 | xnt14 | fun with ascii art: http://xceleo.com/maemoorg |
| 00:57.05 | xnt14 | :P |
| 00:57.21 | xnt14 | ascii gen ftw |
| 00:57.22 | xnt14 | :P |
| 00:57.32 | Luke-Jr | xnt14: fail |
| 00:57.36 | xnt14 | lol |
| 00:57.37 | xnt14 | :P |
| 01:00.02 | xnt14 | brb |
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| 01:05.03 | mib_a1mbjc | Is there anybody who know maemo inputMethod? |
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| 01:07.25 | mib_a1mbjc | I would like to ask several questions |
| 01:11.16 | pupnik | always dicey, here |
| 01:11.26 | pupnik | try the mailing list |
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| 01:18.31 | mib_a1mbjc | pupnik, you are familiar with maemo input method plug-in example? |
| 01:18.43 | pupnik | no sry |
| 01:19.10 | mib_a1mbjc | Thank you |
| 01:19.13 | pupnik | just know some SDL input |
| 01:23.17 | mib_a1mbjc | OK, thank you, Where are you from? |
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| 01:32.15 | b-man16 | http://b-man.psykosis.net/projects/ubuntu/gallery/ -- updated my new gallery to include labeling :) |
| 01:32.53 | b-man16 | xnt14: !!!!! |
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| 02:14.03 | dick-richardson | application manager shows "failed to refresh" for everything stating a lack to localhost:3128...anyone know where that's set? |
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| 03:04.34 | xnt14 | dick-richardson |
| 03:04.41 | xnt14 | is thinking that thats bad |
| 03:04.53 | xnt14 | localhost, why would it go to that |
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| 03:23.00 | gtb | has anyone been able to headless boot a 770? |
| 03:23.50 | gtb | i've been trying to make a custom firmware that starts the usb networking driver and ssh, but i can't connect to it |
| 03:33.09 | mib_a1mbjc | How to write their own plug-ins so that the default input method in the menu can be seen |
| 03:33.29 | xnt14 | damnit b-man dropped out :P |
| 03:33.46 | xnt14 | just when I was about to tell him to run a command on his site |
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| 03:34.17 | xnt14 | ~seen b-man |
| 03:34.21 | infobot | b-man <n=b-man@pool-71-124-32-204.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 20d 4h 22m 23s ago, saying: 'wtf'. |
| 03:34.21 | xnt14 | ~seen b-man16 |
| 03:34.21 | infobot | b-man16 is currently on #maemo (4s), last said: 'xnt14: !!!!!'. |
| 03:34.28 | xnt14 | ]lol |
| 03:34.33 | b-man16 | i'm here |
| 03:34.36 | xnt14 | :) |
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| 03:45.05 | b-man16 | wohooooooo!!!!! i have a new, massive domain XD http://b-man.xceleo.org/ |
| 03:45.43 | b-man16 | 50GB/month |
| 03:46.20 | b-man16 | thanks to xnt14 :) |
| 03:50.28 | man_in_shack | WOW that'a a massively awesome website you've got |
| 03:50.35 | man_in_shack | btw, you spelt "</style>" wrong |
| 03:51.34 | b-man16 | in index.html? |
| 03:51.38 | man_in_shack | yes |
| 03:51.54 | b-man16 | blame xnt XD |
| 03:52.13 | b-man16 | he set it up |
| 03:52.16 | b-man16 | XD |
| 03:53.08 | xnt14 | man_in_shack, yup, thats why the first <body> disappeared |
| 03:53.17 | xnt14 | thank for the help :P |
| 03:53.18 | xnt14 | XD |
| 03:55.19 | b-man16 | man_in_shack: http://b-man.psykosis.net/projects/ubuntu/gallery |
| 03:55.23 | b-man16 | :) |
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| 03:55.46 | b-man16 | designed by me :) |
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| 04:17.08 | pferrill | anybody know why I keep getting a fatal error trying to install the latest SDK+ using the python script? |
| 04:17.08 | pferrill | error says |
| 04:17.08 | pferrill | Giving up, because failed to : echo -e 'Yes\n' | maemo-tools --mirror http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ install lenny-2009-1 |
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| 04:17.09 | Macer | i'm watching the universe |
| 04:17.09 | Macer | talking about venus and mercury |
| 04:17.09 | Macer | finally. a volcanologist gets to do something productive |
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| 05:31.47 | madman587587 | anyone online? |
| 05:32.43 | madman587587 | i have a motorola v3x and i just got HSPA wireless, is there any way i can connect them via bluetooth or usb cable, thx |
| 05:33.27 | madman587587 | ? |
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| 05:43.59 | madman587587 | i have a motorola v3x and i just got HSPA wireless, is there any way i can connect them via bluetooth or usb cable, thx |
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| 05:48.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | ECHO...ECHo...ECho...Echo...echo...cho...ho...o...... |
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| 05:48.43 | thux | morning |
| 05:49.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | when people start coming in saying morning, it must be approaching bedtime |
| 05:53.11 | thux | gmt +2 here or it could be +3 now in summertime |
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| 05:56.16 | ShadowJK | madman: the wizard from control panel doesn't work? |
| 05:56.51 | ShadowJK | ds3: my n810 battery is about a year and as new |
| 05:57.23 | ShadowJK | my n800 was second hand and the battery does approximately what you described |
| 05:58.25 | ShadowJK | the charge meter assumes full capacity is still there, and gets a bit surprised when it isn't, and counts down the battery bars quickly |
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| 05:59.10 | ShadowJK | mind, even with brand new battery the meter shows 4/4 bars until half-empty :) |
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| 06:29.42 | b-man16 | sleeps |
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| 06:46.36 | mib_a1mbjc | How to add a widget to the input method plug-ins? |
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| 06:47.14 | mib_a1mbjc | Some people know? |
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| 07:00.29 | mib_a1mbjc | is there anybody who know how to add my own widget to the input method plug-ins? |
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| 07:20.17 | X-Fade | Morning |
| 07:20.59 | Stskeeps | morning x-fade |
| 07:26.51 | RST38h | !!!!!! FIXED |
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| 07:28.46 | Stskeeps | mm? |
| 07:28.55 | derf | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/funny-pictures-cat-wonders-if-he-is-broken.jpg |
| 07:29.01 | RST38h | Sts: I have been tracking a bug for the last 4-5 days |
| 07:29.05 | RST38h | Finally found it |
| 07:30.06 | RST38h | It is an epic-fail type bug too |
| 07:30.08 | Stskeeps | ah, that kind of feeling |
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| 07:32.38 | Macer | blah |
| 07:32.50 | Macer | could only find the disney ultimate collection as dvd |
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| 07:43.26 | RST38h | Macer: Now, THAT is a sure sign of degradation =) |
| 07:43.59 | RST38h | bets Macer will switch to watching Scooby Doo in no time now =) |
| 07:44.51 | Macer | degredation? |
| 07:44.52 | Macer | :-P |
| 07:44.59 | Macer | it's for my son |
| 07:45.03 | RST38h | Ah :) |
| 07:45.09 | Macer | i mean don't get me wrong. i don't mind watching disney cartoons :) |
| 07:45.19 | Macer | better than watching that noggin type shit |
| 07:45.34 | RST38h | Not that, but watching the whole thing in a row is kinda sick =) |
| 07:45.37 | Macer | like wonder pets and little bear and that other shit that is just seriously way too goodie type shit |
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| 07:45.50 | Macer | that "we're all friends and should work together" bullshit |
| 07:46.00 | RST38h | Ah, the bears... |
| 07:46.20 | Macer | yeah. those types of cartoons are entertaining to small children because they don't know any better |
| 07:46.45 | Macer | they just like the colors and don't realize the crap it's trying to teach them :) |
| 07:46.57 | Macer | lies! |
| 07:46.59 | Macer | haha |
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| 07:50.02 | RST38h | That is not crap, it is called social conditioning =) |
| 07:52.14 | RST38h | Macer: read a blog post once by some guy who took his 14 year old daughter to the window at night, pointed to the lights and said |
| 07:52.58 | RST38h | Macer: "See, there are 15 million people behind that window, probably about 2 mils in the visible part |
| 07:53.16 | RST38h | Macer: ...and guess what? None of these people give a damn about you." |
| 07:53.51 | RST38h | social conditioning. |
| 08:00.06 | Macer | disney cartoons are a little more real |
| 08:00.11 | Macer | tinkerbell is a total bitch |
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| 08:02.52 | RST38h | heh |
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| 08:04.55 | Macer | so is peter pan another banned cartoon for it's vulgar intepretation of native americans? :) |
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| 08:08.26 | RST38h | Macer: That is really nothing in comparison to this: http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/jan/08lord.htm |
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| 08:14.36 | Macer | lol |
| 08:14.40 | Macer | i'm watching dinosaur |
| 08:14.52 | Macer | where disney teaches children that primates and dinosaurs were around at the same time :) |
| 08:16.17 | ds3 | cant contest that statement as spoken |
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| 08:16.50 | ds3 | now if they said both ofthem are ALIVE.... dinosaurs and humans are around at the same time... just that the dinosaurs are fossils :D |
| 08:17.13 | Macer | heh |
| 08:17.29 | Macer | no disney shows that monkeys will take care of lost dinosaur babies |
| 08:17.54 | ds3 | as long as they are lost FOSSIL dinosaurs.... |
| 08:18.00 | Macer | nope |
| 08:19.13 | Macer | they are live dinosaurs in giant herds with monkeys around :) |
| 08:19.19 | Macer | science at its best.. thank you disney! |
| 08:19.27 | ds3 | hehe |
| 08:19.35 | ds3 | There was Jurassic park... |
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| 08:20.19 | Macer | i think this is supposed to be an "in the past" type of movie |
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| 08:25.22 | Macer | at least they got the giant impact thing right :) |
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| 08:27.09 | RST38h | Macer <-- taking Disney too seriously |
| 08:27.32 | Macer | hahah well damn |
| 08:27.40 | Macer | they could at least get the eras correct |
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| 08:27.47 | Macer | i mean dinosaurs and monkeys? |
| 08:28.01 | RST38h | Macer: I think you should watch Kill Bill and count problems there instead =) |
| 08:28.42 | Macer | you mean mob boss caine? :) |
| 08:28.57 | Macer | it's like if you took his kung fu character and turned him into a mafia boss haha |
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| 09:32.35 | lbt | jeremiah: #mer.... chatting about gtk packaging and conflicts and scary things |
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| 10:08.50 | lcuk | lbt, packaging is scary anytime - i am officially grey haired now, and its not even complete |
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| 11:11.45 | zetheroo | I have the N810 and its usually connected to my wireless network ... however it seems the file manager has a hard time showing the shared folders available on the network ... sometimes they are there and other times there is no browsable network at all ... |
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| 11:35.32 | xnt14 | ~seen b-man16 |
| 11:35.37 | infobot | b-man16 is currently on #maemo (8h 1m 20s). Has said a total of 11 messages. Is idling for 7h 39m 51s, last said: 'designed by me :)'. |
| 11:35.44 | xnt14 | :P |
| 11:39.57 | pupnik | lard<tab>... :( |
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| 11:47.32 | pupnik | E: Couldn't find package gdb |
| 11:47.39 | woglinde | hehe |
| 11:49.27 | pupnik | extras-devel? |
| 11:49.34 | pupnik | what has it? |
| 11:51.12 | X-Fade | pupnik: probably sdk/tools ? |
| 11:51.31 | pupnik | need it on tablet dont have pc |
| 11:51.51 | pupnik | hard to think |
| 11:52.35 | X-Fade | pupnik: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo4.1.2/free/g/gdb/ |
| 11:52.47 | woglinde | hi x-fade |
| 11:52.56 | pupnik | ty |
| 11:53.00 | zetheroo |  I have the N810 and its usually connected to my wireless network ... however it seems the file manager has a hard time showing the shared folders available on the network ... sometimes they are there and other times there is no browsable network at all ... |
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| 11:56.28 | pupnik | zetheroo, does the tree have huge subdirs (many files)? |
| 11:57.00 | pupnik | one insane thing is hildon file dialogs scanning subdirs |
| 11:57.09 | pupnik | BAD NOKIA, NO BISCUIT |
| 11:57.24 | murrayc | one insane thing is hildon file dialogs. |
| 11:58.22 | pupnik | yes, sometimes i need to see more than 20 chars of a filename |
| 11:59.00 | Stskeeps | murrayc: any progress on thumb kbd or HIM hardwiring yet btw? |
| 11:59.26 | murrayc | No. It's blocking on something unrelated yet annoying. |
| 11:59.31 | Stskeeps | k |
| 11:59.41 | murrayc | Soonish, hopefully. |
| 11:59.45 | pupnik | another 'fun' thing is being sllowed to r/w MyDocs, but not / or even /home/user |
| 12:00.03 | pupnik | which is ok for consumers |
| 12:00.32 | pupnik | but should be disablable |
| 12:00.37 | RST38h | pupnik: oh yes there is a bug for that |
| 12:01.22 | pupnik | k |
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| 12:01.55 | pupnik | a nice project for a gtk coder |
| 12:02.29 | pupnik | well, except that it gets outdated by os upgrade |
| 12:03.02 | Stskeeps | os upgrade? diablo upgrade? forget about it :P |
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| 12:09.25 | lcuk_the_grey | munches on BLT |
| 12:09.57 | RST38h | Branch-if-Less-Than? |
| 12:10.15 | lcuk_the_grey | yeah, it was just in with my chips |
| 12:11.42 | RST38h | last.fm cofounders quit |
| 12:12.24 | lcuk_the_grey | does that mean we are gonna see a rival service "final.fm" |
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| 12:14.53 | abhilash1 | can augmented reality done with just knowing c++??coz i read java is essential |
| 12:15.25 | thopiekar | does anyone know how to fix my build? https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/cracklib2_2.8.13-7maemo2/ |
| 12:15.34 | thopiekar | works on my own sb1.. |
| 12:16.25 | thux | what is cracklib2? |
| 12:16.41 | abhilash1 | basically i want to use flaretoolkit and i c++ to work on qugmented reality, is this possible?? |
| 12:17.02 | RST38h | abhilash1: I have heard certain controlled substances are necessary to properly augment one's reality |
| 12:18.32 | abhilash1 | < RST38h> yes i read certian things, even went through some papers, but they've implemted using java and flash using flare toolkit |
| 12:19.22 | abhilash1 | basically i kust know c,c++ and bit python, so wanted to knpw can this concept donr using c++ |
| 12:19.43 | RST38h | Hm |
| 12:19.54 | RST38h | ok, let us play along for now |
| 12:20.02 | RST38h | abhilash1: Yes, it can. |
| 12:20.27 | abhilash1 | < RST38h> oh hurray, then where can i get info?? |
| 12:20.29 | thopiekar | cracklib2 is needed for vsftpd.. maybe someone would need this ftp-server running on his device.. |
| 12:20.45 | RST38h | abhilash1: google? |
| 12:21.19 | abhilash1 | ya i did, went to some blogs n stuff, there only i got this irssi channel:) so came here |
| 12:21.23 | lcuk_the_grey | thopiekar, you are referencing an external stylesheet for your xml portion, and the autobuilder cant find it |
| 12:21.42 | RST38h | abhilash1: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=augmented+reality+c%2B%2B&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= |
| 12:22.05 | tank-man | what does that mean? augmented reality |
| 12:22.32 | tank-man | sounds like doctor who episode |
| 12:22.40 | thopiekar | xmlto needs internet connection.. maybe the extras builder hasn't it in its chroot.. I had to configure my sb1.. |
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| 12:23.36 | X-Fade | thopiekar: There is no outside access for the autobuilder. You need to provide everything that is needed to compile. |
| 12:23.44 | RST38h | thopiekar: what would you use xml for anyway? |
| 12:23.49 | thopiekar | aah k then.. |
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| 12:24.25 | thopiekar | the script is downloading the man-pages as xmls and converting it to normal ones.. |
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| 12:24.31 | abhilash1 | < tank-man>creating 3-D environment using flash and flare toolkit with bitmap image,http://www.howstuffworks.com/augmented-reality.htm |
| 12:24.36 | thopiekar | hi murrayc :) |
| 12:24.52 | abhilash1 | < tank-man>creating 3-D environment using flash and flare toolkit with bitmap image,http://www.howstuffworks.com/augmented-reality.htm |
| 12:24.56 | X-Fade | thopiekar: Man pages don't make a lot of sense on a mobile device. |
| 12:25.36 | RST38h | thopiekar: You can safely skip on manpages for the tablet |
| 12:26.18 | tank-man | unless you want to read man pages that is |
| 12:26.35 | lcuk_the_grey | in which case you have to disable docpurge and other things |
| 12:26.46 | lcuk_the_grey | and get it through the autobuilder ;) |
| 12:27.37 | thopiekar | for sure.. I could remove them then.. the debain-files are from ubuntu's sources, so I just have to make more modifications.. I just removed the python-modules before, because the needed packages "python-docutils" or other are not available on diablo.. |
| 12:29.57 | abhilash1 | exit |
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| 12:32.16 | X-Fade | thopiekar: yeah, on a desktop it doesn't matter that it pulls in a lot of deps. On the device, your rootfs fills up quickly ;) |
| 12:32.38 | thopiekar | yes :P |
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| 12:33.30 | X-Fade | Ask lbt what happened when he pulled in qt on the developer devices. (and about a complete ubuntu install) :) |
| 12:36.06 | lcuk_the_grey | X-Fade, is everything running normally again now and i can create a ouple of garage projects? |
| 12:36.32 | X-Fade | lcuk_the_grey: Sure, go ahead. |
| 12:37.25 | lcuk_the_grey | :D wicked ill make them later - its not practical to have 2 live versions of the same project going is it - ie liqbase classic and liqbase-playground, but both in the same garage head |
| 12:38.13 | X-Fade | lcuk_the_grey: Why not create multiple heads then? |
| 12:38.21 | zetheroo | pupnik: sorry I had to run out ... you asked about the tree having huge subdir .. I don't really know what you mean by that |
| 12:38.39 | X-Fade | lcuk_the_grey: https://git.maemo.org/projects//gitweb?p=qemu;a=heads |
| 12:38.51 | pupnik | i was just guessing |
| 12:39.19 | lcuk_the_grey | well the source and released version of liqbase is nice and stable and happy and serves at least me as the core featureset required for playground, but if i just start making new playground using the same project, people will download expecting it to be a direct upgrade |
| 12:39.19 | pupnik | perhaps the mount point has subdirectories containing many files |
| 12:39.35 | lcuk_the_grey | and has a different featureset |
| 12:39.50 | pupnik | call it playsky |
| 12:40.01 | zetheroo | pupnik: its just that sometimes the network option is in the tree and then sometimes its not |
| 12:40.09 | andre__ | zetheroo, sounds a bit like https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3804 maybe |
| 12:40.12 | pupnik | oh |
| 12:40.16 | zetheroo | pupnik: is there a better browser for networks |
| 12:40.24 | andre__ | it's definitely buggy, yeah |
| 12:40.28 | pupnik | xterm |
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| 12:42.44 | zetheroo | so xterm is a file browser? |
| 12:43.04 | pupnik | the ls command is |
| 12:43.30 | zetheroo | oh this is terminal stuff ... |
| 12:43.32 | zetheroo | ? |
| 12:43.56 | andre__ | install mc :-P |
| 12:44.07 | andre__ | first thing i did actually... |
| 12:44.15 | zetheroo | I just want to be able to browse my shared folders ... pretty please ... :) |
| 12:44.18 | zetheroo | ok |
| 12:44.29 | zetheroo | what is it? .. |
| 12:44.38 | andre__ | a norton commander clone for the terminal |
| 12:44.44 | andre__ | quite popular in linux world |
| 12:45.49 | zetheroo | can you browse the shared folders using emelFM2? |
| 12:47.41 | RST38h | andre: mc has got a slight problem |
| 12:47.51 | RST38h | andre: otherwise known as virtual keyboard :) |
| 12:48.12 | Stskeeps | it doesnt resize' |
| 12:48.13 | Stskeeps | ? |
| 12:48.15 | RST38h | emelfm2 is mysterious like a freaking sphinx |
| 12:48.21 | andre__ | argh. |
| 12:48.31 | andre__ | right. i'm too used to n810, sorry |
| 12:48.32 | RST38h | Sts: Resizes just fine, but there isn't much space left =) |
| 12:48.56 | Stskeeps | ah |
| 12:49.21 | andre__ | at least mc in fullscreen mode with stylus keyboard works a bit :-/ |
| 12:49.41 | zetheroo | so is that a "no" about emelFM2? |
| 12:50.08 | pupnik | gets out the banjo and plays a happy tune |
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| 12:50.46 | RST38h | pupnik: what? nokia promised to fix the file selector AND the file manager? |
| 12:50.56 | pupnik | nice |
| 12:51.05 | pupnik | oh |
| 12:51.28 | MakeGho | any idea when the next maemo device would come out? |
| 12:52.08 | pupnik | 2009-2010 |
| 12:52.13 | pupnik | bbl |
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| 12:53.58 | andre__ | define "fix" |
| 12:54.12 | RST38h | andre: Refer to the itt thread |
| 12:54.38 | fiferboy | Hi lbt |
| 12:55.11 | andre__ | url's appreciated. i take a look at itt once per day |
| 12:55.28 | RST38h | andre: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=29460 |
| 12:56.06 | andre__ | ah. thanks. (vague topic = stuff i don't always read) |
| 12:56.50 | andre__ | uh. i see wrong assumptions. time to comment.... |
| 12:57.55 | fiferboy | Can someone shoot me the link that describes how to setup qemu for mer development |
| 12:57.57 | fiferboy | ? |
| 12:58.27 | Stskeeps | fiferboy: define what you would need qemu for :) |
| 12:58.36 | fiferboy | Building Qt packages |
| 12:58.48 | fiferboy | Scratchbox won't link them in virtualbox |
| 12:59.02 | Stskeeps | so, building qt packages for arm, i presume |
| 12:59.08 | fiferboy | Yes |
| 12:59.27 | fiferboy | I think lbt uses qemu to build them |
| 12:59.29 | Stskeeps | right, wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build might be one way |
| 12:59.57 | fiferboy | Thanks |
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| 13:07.44 | lopz | hola |
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| 13:25.38 | Stskeeps | scaringly enough i think i actually might be on nokia's side with the whole rotation debacle |
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| 13:26.02 | Stskeeps | rotated apps (when we have so little space) is really a different view on the same model |
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| 13:26.46 | b-man16 | yawns |
| 13:27.04 | b-man16 | ~seen xnt14 |
| 13:27.06 | infobot | xnt14 is currently on #maemo (1h 53m). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 1h 51m 22s, last said: ':P'. |
| 13:27.55 | b-man16 | just got out of bed so... |
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| 13:29.33 | RST38h | Sts: Is there a debacle? |
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| 13:32.21 | pupnik | gemrb (Bioware engine: Baldurs Gate 2 etc.) could use playtesters and python devs. Good project nearing playability! #gemrb on freenode. |
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| 13:39.07 | lbt | fiferboy: hi... yep that was the link... |
| 13:39.24 | fiferboy | lbt: Thanks. I got it set up. Just about to upload the source |
| 13:39.47 | fiferboy | Neither of my virtualbox sessions (500 MB RAM, 1 GB RAM) would link libQtWebKit.so |
| 13:40.30 | lbt | fingers crossed that qemu wil |
| 13:40.50 | fiferboy | Do you tend to build locally with OBS, or remotely? |
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| 13:41.23 | thangam | hello all |
| 13:41.34 | lbt | locally |
| 13:41.44 | lbt | remote is for full builds |
| 13:41.56 | fiferboy | Got it. |
| 13:42.03 | lbt | I usually set it going and then run a make and scp the .so to test |
| 13:42.24 | thangam | maemo is only for Nokia series or i can port Mameo to any platfrom |
| 13:42.35 | fiferboy | So you have to do the CLI build, rather than web interface? |
| 13:42.35 | Stskeeps | thangam: you would want to look at wiki.maemo.org/Mer :) |
| 13:42.40 | Stskeeps | thangam: what do you have in mind? |
| 13:43.48 | thangam | i would like to port maemo to imx31 platform |
| 13:43.51 | lbt | yes, I run : osc build blah armv5el qt*.dsc |
| 13:44.04 | thangam | i have ported DEBIAN on imx31 |
| 13:44.13 | Stskeeps | thangam: is this armv4, armv5, armv6? |
| 13:44.20 | fiferboy | lbt: I see it now, I was looking at full build before |
| 13:44.23 | thangam | Stskeeps: armv6 |
| 13:44.41 | fiferboy | Nice instructions, by the way |
| 13:44.41 | lbt | I am working on "OBS as SDK" too |
| 13:44.48 | lbt | ta |
| 13:44.53 | thangam | Stskeeps: i tried downloading rootfs of Maemo |
| 13:45.13 | Stskeeps | thangam: should be very easy then. do you have 1) X working 2) touchscreen? 3) linux kernel booting? 4) how much space do you have? |
| 13:45.40 | fiferboy | No, hopefully my wife doesn't mind me running a huge compile on our home machine |
| 13:45.50 | thangam | Stskeeps: no i am booting rootfs on USB storage |
| 13:45.59 | Stskeeps | thangam: alright |
| 13:46.08 | Stskeeps | thangam: you can definately get Mer running on it :) |
| 13:46.09 | lbt | heh... I bought a (build) server for £50 at the weekend |
| 13:46.16 | thangam | Stskeeps: i am keeping maemo rootfs on my /dev/sda1 partition |
| 13:46.28 | fiferboy | Are you running it headless? |
| 13:46.30 | Stskeeps | (Mer is a community edition of Maemo 5.0 fremantle) |
| 13:46.33 | lbt | woo imx31 on Mer |
| 13:46.40 | lbt | yes |
| 13:46.50 | lbt | keep it in a cupboard |
| 13:46.55 | lbt | WoL |
| 13:47.00 | fiferboy | Nice! |
| 13:47.00 | thangam | Stskeeps: no mer/maemo all are hanging before init process |
| 13:47.13 | lbt | heh... I built a special cupboard... |
| 13:47.22 | lbt | 4 servers in there now |
| 13:47.27 | fiferboy | LOL |
| 13:47.30 | Stskeeps | thangam: is this btw something you're doing for fun, or is it related to something commercial? |
| 13:47.33 | fiferboy | That's your server room |
| 13:47.36 | lbt | + satellite box and an extractor fan |
| 13:47.39 | thangam | Stskeeps: after kernel booting..init process should start |
| 13:47.45 | lbt | extractor fan runs in reverse |
| 13:47.56 | fiferboy | We have an old file server holding up our network switch in the basement |
| 13:47.59 | lbt | I had a rack... way too noisy |
| 13:48.23 | thangam | Stskeeps: If it will run ..we will make it as commericial |
| 13:48.50 | Stskeeps | thangam: fair enough - do you have a kernel for it that works? |
| 13:49.24 | fiferboy | lbt: After QWebView, is there anything that needs scrolling or scrolling changes that you know of? |
| 13:49.31 | thangam | Stskeeps: Meamo/mer is booting with initfs(intial ram disk image)..but we will not boot kernel with INITFS |
| 13:49.39 | Stskeeps | thangam: yes |
| 13:49.55 | Stskeeps | thangam: listen, join the channel #mer , and we can talk there :) |
| 13:49.57 | lbt | menus don't quite work |
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| 13:50.01 | Stskeeps | i'm sure we can get Mer running on it :) |
| 13:50.16 | fiferboy | You mean scrolling in menus or menus in general? |
| 13:50.25 | thangam | Stskeeps:: okay i will join there to discuss |
| 13:51.05 | lbt | scrolling in them |
| 13:51.09 | lbt | it used to work |
| 13:51.24 | lbt | but now something happens and the mouse-release seems to activate |
| 13:51.31 | lbt | I suspect gnuton's HIM |
| 13:51.32 | fiferboy | Oh, scrolling in combo boxes is a little wierd like that too |
| 13:51.52 | fiferboy | You can scroll, but it always trys to select |
| 13:51.56 | lbt | yes and textarea too - it pops up the keybd |
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| 13:52.19 | fiferboy | Also, in combo boxes if you overshoot and the combo box closes, when you open it again it stays overshot |
| 13:52.26 | fiferboy | So, a few things left to fix :) |
| 13:52.52 | lbt | heh ... oops |
| 13:53.09 | fiferboy | We will just market it as "persistant overshoot" |
| 13:53.12 | fiferboy | It's a feature |
| 13:53.40 | fiferboy | I bet even liqbase doesn't have persistant overshoot! |
| 13:53.41 | lbt | <grin> |
| 13:54.02 | lcuk_the_grey | liqbase doesnt overshoot ;) |
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| 13:54.16 | fiferboy | lcuk_the_grey: Really? For some reason I thought it did... |
| 13:54.22 | lcuk_the_grey | and when text selection is put in left/right motion will actually select text instead of screwing with your mind ;) |
| 13:54.24 | fiferboy | But I guess you would know better than I |
| 13:54.42 | fiferboy | Qt text selection is done by magic |
| 13:54.55 | lcuk_the_grey | uses black magic also |
| 13:55.29 | lcuk_the_grey | i mentioned something lastnight that i might try and implement with scrolling text |
| 13:55.35 | fiferboy | Oh? |
| 13:55.44 | lcuk_the_grey | as you kinetically scroll, the faster you go, it zooms out a little |
| 13:55.47 | pupnik | swishing sounds? |
| 13:55.53 | lcuk_the_grey | so you see more items on page as they are going faster |
| 13:55.53 | pupnik | ooh kewl |
| 13:56.01 | lcuk_the_grey | heh pupnik thats a longterm desire |
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| 13:56.10 | lcuk_the_grey | book flipping or wind noises would be REALLY cool |
| 13:56.25 | fiferboy | You could implement a gyroscopic scroll, where the list moves perpendicularly to the direction you push it |
| 13:56.31 | fiferboy | That would be a novel feature |
| 13:56.41 | lcuk_the_grey | and couner intuitive lol |
| 13:56.48 | lcuk_the_grey | engage drunken mode! |
| 13:56.56 | fiferboy | Who said gyroscopes were intuitive? |
| 13:57.01 | lcuk_the_grey | inverse scrolling! |
| 13:57.03 | fiferboy | Drunken mode, I like it! |
| 13:57.22 | lcuk_the_grey | i actually had a listbox scrolling mechanism where the speed scaler was based on X position within the grid |
| 13:57.27 | fiferboy | The faster you push the list, the slower it scrolls |
| 13:57.33 | lcuk_the_grey | on the left hand side the grid only moved at 1/2 real speed |
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| 13:57.37 | lcuk_the_grey | on the right it was 4x speed |
| 13:58.02 | lcuk_the_grey | fiferboy, that would infuriate everyone lol |
| 13:58.41 | fiferboy | I thought the point of programming was to infuriate end users... |
| 13:58.50 | fiferboy | Maybe I have been going about this wrong all along! |
| 13:59.04 | lcuk_the_grey | nahhh its to make their life easier and to do whats asked quickly and effectively without wasting their or your time :) |
| 13:59.26 | fiferboy | Oops, well that changes everything! |
| 13:59.31 | lcuk_the_grey | ;) heh |
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| 13:59.34 | fiferboy | Back to the drawing board |
| 14:00.01 | lcuk_the_grey | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:00.19 | fiferboy | playground is in extras now? or extras-devel? |
| 14:00.32 | lcuk_the_grey | fremantle only lol and its got problems |
| 14:00.47 | lcuk_the_grey | i turned grey trying to make packaging work and its still not right |
| 14:01.01 | lcuk_the_grey | i blew up 3 devkits and havent got a scratchbox of a devenv |
| 14:01.15 | lcuk_the_grey | and it still wont work on my 810 |
| 14:01.19 | lcuk_the_grey | (where i did all dev lol) |
| 14:01.24 | fiferboy | Packaging seems to be something you have to start implementing before you start developing |
| 14:01.38 | fiferboy | Packaging a mature application always seems the hardest |
| 14:01.46 | lcuk_the_grey | not really, learning how it fits together is the hard part |
| 14:01.53 | lcuk_the_grey | kees and jeremiah got me started with it |
| 14:02.06 | lcuk_the_grey | but then the fiddly bits of specifics liqbase wants mess it up |
| 14:02.14 | RST38h | As long as you ignore the tons of glue SUGGESTED for packaging, you are ok |
| 14:02.28 | lcuk_the_grey | heh fifer - i was (and still am) tempted to just buy 8x0 devices and post them to poeple with liqbase on |
| 14:02.31 | lcuk_the_grey | i know it works |
| 14:02.40 | lcuk_the_grey | yes rst |
| 14:02.41 | fiferboy | I'll take one! |
| 14:02.43 | lcuk_the_grey | that got in my way |
| 14:02.50 | lcuk_the_grey | and ontop of that autotools is evil |
| 14:02.58 | RST38h | It is actually rather simple once you delete/ignore all the crap |
| 14:02.59 | lcuk_the_grey | heh |
| 14:03.05 | RST38h | Well, why are you using autotools? |
| 14:03.11 | lcuk_the_grey | library |
| 14:03.15 | RST38h | and? |
| 14:03.20 | lcuk_the_grey | realistically needs libtool and the other bits |
| 14:03.30 | RST38h | why? |
| 14:03.31 | lcuk_the_grey | ive done it with a handcoded makefile for now |
| 14:03.42 | lcuk_the_grey | which is how its even in extras at all lol |
| 14:03.51 | lcuk_the_grey | but for versioning and making the extras .so files expect |
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| 14:08.16 | GAN800 | wonders why people buying bibles are consistently the most rude and unpleasant. |
| 14:09.04 | timeless_mbp | ? |
| 14:10.29 | GAN800 | Jesus doesn't love assholes. |
| 14:12.01 | GAN800 | timeless_mbp, work. |
| 14:12.53 | RST38h | But assholes absolutely love Jesus |
| 14:13.02 | GAN800 | Apparently. |
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| 14:15.08 | timeless_mbp | considers a reference to today's news |
| 14:16.04 | n6pfk | Where can I find xgalega for the N810? |
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| 14:25.27 | aquatix | heh |
| 14:25.45 | RichiH | infobot: botsnack |
| 14:25.45 | infobot | RichiH: aw, gee |
| 14:26.47 | RichiH | what is this talk about a N900 based on OMAP 3430 which will have GSM and UMTS? |
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| 14:28.51 | GAN800 | ~rx-51 |
| 14:28.52 | infobot | i heard rx-51 is http://maemo.org/community/council/community_highlights_for_december_2008-part_i-january_2009-part_ii/ http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9093153240.html |
| 14:29.09 | GAN800 | Supposedly 3.5" and GSM |
| 14:29.45 | aquatix | (and hspa and such) |
| 14:29.59 | GAN800 | ofono.org related maybe |
| 14:30.08 | aquatix | so, supposedly quite awesome imho |
| 14:31.02 | GAN800 | 3.5" is going to be a ridiculously big letdown if it's not GSM. |
| 14:31.29 | aquatix | GAN800: hey, didn't know that project |
| 14:31.34 | aquatix | heh, yeah |
| 14:32.29 | RichiH | looks very very interesting |
| 14:33.19 | GAN800 | RichiH, hopefully interesting turns out to be released soon. |
| 14:33.35 | RichiH | aye |
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| 14:54.59 | RST38h | http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-322 |
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| 14:58.33 | fiferboy | lbt: OBS is showing the MerExtrasStable armv5el repo with an error |
| 14:58.57 | lbt | url? |
| 14:59.33 | fiferboy | Well, when I add the repo to my project it says "expansion error: 1" under armv5el |
| 15:00.54 | fiferboy | I followed the "Setting up Build Repositories: WWW" from the wiki |
| 15:01.37 | lbt | when you mouseover the expansion error |
| 15:01.41 | lbt | what does it say? |
| 15:01.58 | fiferboy | "The build can not begin, because required packages are either missing or not explicitly defined" |
| 15:02.07 | fiferboy | When I click on the error and look it up |
| 15:02.35 | lbt | nothing provides libreadline4-dev |
| 15:02.41 | fiferboy | Yes |
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| 15:02.50 | fiferboy | When I try building my package it says that |
| 15:03.01 | lbt | ah |
| 15:03.11 | lbt | you're running maemo2 source |
| 15:03.13 | lbt | OK... |
| 15:03.20 | lbt | you need to 'fix' it |
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| 15:03.33 | lbt | maemo has scratchboxisms and stuff |
| 15:03.51 | lbt | so it depends on libreadline4-dev and not libreadline-dev |
| 15:04.03 | fiferboy | Oh right, I thought you commited those to the qt4 svn |
| 15:04.08 | lbt | and occasionally looks in /scratchbox/ for code |
| 15:04.17 | lbt | no, they'r Mer/sane fixes |
| 15:04.23 | lbt | not Qt/Hildon |
| 15:04.24 | lbt | ;) |
| 15:04.28 | fiferboy | Ah |
| 15:04.49 | lbt | so I keep them in Mer/patches as packaging fixes |
| 15:05.15 | lbt | http://people.debian.org/~madduck/talks/vcs-pkg_debconf8_2008.08.11/workflow.png |
| 15:05.18 | lbt | bbiab |
| 15:06.00 | suihkulokki | lbt: I think that's a wee bit complicated scheme |
| 15:06.38 | Stskeeps | interesting reactions from danish bloggers about iphone 3g S .. "i had hoped for sw updates and not speed" "i had hoped for something more than just a 3g with some more speed" "i had really hoped for fm radio" |
| 15:06.59 | Stskeeps | and "more mpixel!" |
| 15:07.00 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 15:07.20 | Stskeeps | nokia might actually have a shot, heh :) |
| 15:09.05 | RST38h | none of them want it pink? |
| 15:09.08 | VDVsx | seriously, the iphone is a cool device, but the things that apple announced like big innovations, are in majority of the cellphones for ages |
| 15:09.22 | VDVsx | video recording, woooooooo, lol |
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| 15:09.34 | RST38h | VDVsx: this does not really matter for the true adepts of the cult |
| 15:09.37 | xnt15 | helloworld :P |
| 15:09.44 | wazd | iPhone 3G ass :) |
| 15:09.47 | VDVsx | RST38h, true |
| 15:09.51 | RST38h | VDVsx: not offered by apple == does not exist |
| 15:09.59 | RST38h | == nobody needs it too |
| 15:10.47 | wazd | Well, don't be so proud, I think nokia is going to the "you don't need this" way too :) |
| 15:10.53 | VDVsx | RST38h, lol, but the media help a lot passing this impression |
| 15:11.10 | wazd | Quim already told you that you don't need to navigate trhu 1000 files |
| 15:11.18 | VDVsx | wazd, ehehe |
| 15:11.51 | thangam | README alsa-utils atd autofs bootclean bootlogd bootmisc.sh checkfs.sh checkroot.sh console-screen.sh cron dbus glibc.sh hal halt hostname.sh hwclock.sh hwclockfirst.sh keymap killprocs klogd loopback lxnm module-init-tools mountall-bootclean.sh mountall.sh mountdevsubfs.sh mountkernfs.sh mountnfs-bootclean.sh mountoverflowtmp mtab.sh networking pcmciautils p |
| 15:12.00 | wazd | Next time you'll not need some more useless stuff like switchable browser engile or swappable battery :D |
| 15:12.02 | Stskeeps | thangam: thanks |
| 15:12.07 | Stskeeps | yeah, it's obviously not there |
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| 15:14.23 | n6pfk | ls -l q2 |
| 15:15.27 | b-man16 | lol, i now have a copy of palm's webos http://b-man.xceleo.org/site/files/palm-webos/webosdoctorp100ewwsprint.jar |
| 15:15.51 | Stskeeps | b-man16: publically logged channel, possibly copyright software .. hint |
| 15:15.51 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 15:16.45 | lbt | suihkulokki: not really... but it does look it |
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| 15:17.25 | lcuk_the_grey | shouldnt a webos be available for download from the web? |
| 15:17.39 | b-man16 | it's only going to be there temporarily |
| 15:18.03 | lcuk_the_grey | if i havent got a webos how can i open a webpage |
| 15:18.06 | Stskeeps | b-man16: yeah.. copyright people usually don't care about that :P |
| 15:18.25 | lcuk_the_grey | Stskeeps, heh, he might have a poorly pre |
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| 15:20.05 | b-man16 | <repost>it's only going to be there temporarily |
| 15:20.20 | Stskeeps | *shrug* :P |
| 15:20.33 | Stskeeps | doesn't personally care but does know of scenarios where the past came to haunt one :) |
| 15:20.47 | b-man16 | poorly pre? |
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| 15:24.17 | fiferboy | lbt: How hard is it to fix the scratchboxisms? |
| 15:24.28 | lbt | see my diff |
| 15:25.07 | lbt | ah, no |
| 15:25.08 | fiferboy | Which diff is that? |
| 15:25.10 | lbt | you can't |
| 15:25.33 | lbt | which is why I'm beating myself senseless doing vcs/packaging |
| 15:25.41 | lbt | so I could say "this diff" |
| 15:25.42 | b-man16 | takes down http://b-man.xceleo.org/site/files/palm-webos/webosdoctorp100ewwsprint.jar |
| 15:25.54 | b-man16 | happ? XD |
| 15:25.59 | b-man16 | *happy |
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| 15:28.40 | palmos_bot | b-man16 noted |
| 15:28.55 | b-man16 | lol |
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| 15:30.40 | b-man16 | hi qwerty13 |
| 15:31.32 | lbt | fiferboy: best for now is to look here https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=qt4-x11&project=Maemo%3AMer%3ADevel%3AQt |
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| 15:31.42 | lbt | get the qt4-x11_4.5.0-1maemo1mer2.diff.gz |
| 15:31.53 | lbt | and look at stuff in configure + debian |
| 15:32.36 | qwerty12 | hi b-man16 |
| 15:33.07 | fiferboy | lbt: If I do a local build of that project (not sure if that is possible) would I be able to make changes locally and recompile? |
| 15:33.23 | lbt | yes |
| 15:33.32 | lbt | the best thing to do for you |
| 15:33.43 | fiferboy | So I have to check that project out locally, correct? |
| 15:33.49 | lbt | is probably osc co Maemo:Mer:Devel:Qt/qt4-x11 |
| 15:33.51 | b-man16 | runs /whois on palmos_bot... XD |
| 15:33.59 | lbt | then osc build .... |
| 15:34.01 | fiferboy | Do I need to edit any config files or set anything up in web interface? |
| 15:34.05 | fiferboy | Gotcha |
| 15:34.09 | lbt | no |
| 15:34.12 | lbt | 100% CLI |
| 15:34.16 | lbt | "just works" |
| 15:34.36 | fiferboy | That is the best way! |
| 15:34.41 | lbt | I also find that mount --bind is good |
| 15:34.45 | fiferboy | Does it have the latest fingerscrolling in it? |
| 15:34.49 | lbt | no |
| 15:34.58 | fiferboy | That's not a problem. |
| 15:35.05 | lbt | I am being dragged pillar to post ;) |
| 15:35.16 | lbt | want to see gnuton's commit to gitorious |
| 15:35.27 | fiferboy | Has he made it yet? |
| 15:35.31 | lbt | then apply our latest patches (squashed probably) |
| 15:35.37 | lbt | not AFAIK |
| 15:35.50 | fiferboy | I'll send you my (small) fix to FingerScrollBars |
| 15:37.12 | lbt | ok |
| 15:37.26 | lbt | I'll apply these to the Mer Qt anyway |
| 15:38.40 | fiferboy | What repo do I build that project with? |
| 15:39.05 | fiferboy | MerDevel_Ubuntu_9.04? |
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| 15:39.40 | dijenerate | hi all |
| 15:39.47 | fiferboy | Yes, it is working! |
| 15:40.21 | dijenerate | I'm looking to build maemo on x86 |
| 15:41.33 | dijenerate | can anyone tell me if it has already been done with Maemo 5 and if so where can I find more info? |
| 15:41.59 | Stskeeps | you want to build applications for maemo using x86, or use maemo on x86? |
| 15:43.29 | dijenerate | I want to use Maemo on x86 |
| 15:43.52 | dijenerate | 5 specifically if licenses permit |
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| 15:48.16 | Stskeeps | right, i'm not sure if it's allowed beyond personal use for maemo5 (3d effects, libraries, themes, etc). if you're interested in maemo 5.0 apis on x86 & other devices not exclusively nokia tablets, look into http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer |
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| 15:49.10 | Stskeeps | (look at the releases pages for screenshots, not About) |
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| 15:54.58 | dijenerate | thanks |
| 15:56.06 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: we should update the About page with some really stunning current screenshots, and then have a "more screenshots are on the release pages" |
| 15:56.22 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: yeah.. i'll add to backlog |
| 15:57.23 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: ta |
| 16:00.37 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, that purple blob has got to go. |
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| 16:01.04 | Stskeeps | GAN800: oh, i agree - reason why it's like this is a theming engine error |
| 16:01.05 | Stskeeps | :P |
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| 16:08.35 | fiferboy | lbt: That build asks me for a password. My OBS password did not work |
| 16:08.44 | lbt | root passwd |
| 16:08.50 | lbt | it wants to chroot |
| 16:08.56 | fiferboy | Ah, got it. |
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| 16:09.26 | fiferboy | After I entered the password it said "su: Authentication failure" so I should have guessed |
| 16:10.05 | lbt | hmm, used to be in setup... |
| 16:10.35 | fiferboy | Hmm, still gives me an auth failure. Maybe because Ubuntu doesn't use su? |
| 16:10.59 | fiferboy | Yes, just running 'su' in Ubuntu gives the same error |
| 16:11.00 | mgedmin | ubuntu doesn't set a root password by default, so su can't possibly work |
| 16:11.03 | lbt | try /etc/sudoers? |
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| 16:11.36 | lbt | ubuntu is..... different..... sometimes ;) |
| 16:11.53 | fiferboy | Yes, quite different in some ways |
| 16:12.39 | thopiekar | isn't "su", as I know from opensuse, the same as "sudo -s" in ubuntu? |
| 16:13.33 | mgedmin | yes, but su asks for the root password, while sudo -s asks for your password |
| 16:13.45 | b-man16 | discovers that Palm Pre's WebOS is ipkg-based.... AWESOME!!! |
| 16:14.56 | b-man16 | http://icculus.org/~joshua/prefiles.txt |
| 16:15.46 | Corsac | yup, open-embbeded based |
| 16:16.32 | b-man16 | indeed - i can't wait to hack it XD |
| 16:16.50 | Stskeeps | b-man16: i doubt you'll be able to hack it, probably signed firmwares :P |
| 16:16.57 | b-man16 | nope |
| 16:17.09 | b-man16 | just a jar archive |
| 16:17.29 | Stskeeps | yeah, but you probably can't access that tree through flashing |
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| 16:17.51 | Stskeeps | but we'll see if it's tivoized |
| 16:18.02 | b-man16 | the rootfs is stored in a tar.gz file |
| 16:18.23 | b-man16 | and i can acsess it with jar -x |
| 16:18.55 | b-man16 | the rootfs size is 193mb |
| 16:19.54 | b-man16 | if it's tivoized, i'll figure it out ;) |
| 16:20.26 | Stskeeps | yeah, okay, it does seem like it's hackable.. |
| 16:20.27 | b-man16 | and btw, someone is establishing a wiki for it ;) |
| 16:21.08 | Stskeeps | you have one, or not? :P |
| 16:21.34 | Stskeeps | either way, it'd just be a neat proof of concept |
| 16:21.44 | b-man16 | nope, but i can figure out how to use it with qemu ;) |
| 16:22.39 | b-man16 | it's armv7 - so technicly it could run on the n900 ;) |
| 16:23.19 | Stskeeps | i was more thinking in lines of having a sane os on it |
| 16:23.20 | Stskeeps | heh |
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| 16:24.53 | b-man16 | ah, yeah, heh |
| 16:26.12 | b-man16 | also notices that the base system functions use java |
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| 16:27.44 | b-man16 | heh, it's like a mix of Angstrom and Android - except i dont (think) it is using a highly modified kernel |
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| 17:11.39 | n6pfk | Does anyone know where I can find xgalega that runs on the N810? |
| 17:23.58 | fiferboy | lbt: After I get the deb to start building (generate all the makefiles and configure) how do I rebuild a specific .so after makeing changes? |
| 17:24.03 | fiferboy | You said something about mount --bind? |
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| 17:27.14 | Stskeeps | kinda likes the huge activity in Community forum. |
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| 17:37.01 | VDVsx | andre__, ping |
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| 17:39.49 | RST38h | moo all |
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| 17:46.59 | lbt | fiferboy: http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build/Application_Building#Local_Builds |
| 17:47.00 | lbt | sudo chroot /scratch3/maemo/Mer/obs/build-MerExtrasStable_MerStable_Ubuntu_9.04-armv5el-merpad/ su abuild |
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| 17:47.14 | lbt | cd /usr/src/packages/BUILD |
| 17:47.57 | fiferboy | Excellent. Thanks! |
| 17:48.15 | lbt | cd src/3rdparty/webkit/ ; make |
| 17:48.33 | lbt | nb... once you've messed about you *can* do |
| 17:48.43 | lbt | dpkg-buildpkg -b -nc |
| 17:48.49 | lbt | the -nc means "no clean" |
| 17:49.01 | fiferboy | I'm still waiting for the clean portion of pkg-buildpackage to finish from the initial osc build command |
| 17:49.02 | lbt | so it won't purge .o files |
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| 17:49.18 | fiferboy | The clean takes forever! Not to mention purging the files I want... |
| 17:49.22 | lbt | yes... it also needs to build tools |
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| 17:49.30 | fiferboy | I also do a -b so it doesn't take forever building the source packages |
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| 17:54.01 | Stskeeps | b-man16: how fast is your JS stuff anyway? |
| 17:54.47 | b-man16 | it's fast ;) - verry little cpu+ram usage |
| 17:55.31 | b-man16 | btw, i was able to chroot into WebOS on my tablet - wooooooohoooooo!!!!!! 8D |
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| 17:55.52 | Stskeeps | b-man16: hehe |
| 17:55.57 | Stskeeps | b-man16: what engine is it? |
| 17:55.58 | b-man16 | it actually will run! XD |
| 17:56.04 | b-man16 | jvm |
| 17:56.27 | b-man16 | wait, in palm? |
| 17:56.50 | Stskeeps | as in, your engine stuff |
| 17:57.01 | b-man16 | Ejscript |
| 17:57.23 | b-man16 | +v8 and spidermonkey - optional |
| 17:57.50 | Stskeeps | b-man16: reason why i wonder is because we need something to deal with events on tablets |
| 17:57.54 | Stskeeps | kinda like powerlaunch |
| 17:58.01 | Stskeeps | so you can do stuff like, see signal on dbus, do something |
| 17:58.07 | Stskeeps | or power button pressed => show menu |
| 17:58.17 | Stskeeps | or "sd card partition noticed, automount" |
| 17:58.27 | Stskeeps | and it should be easy to script so everyone can add receipts |
| 17:59.15 | Stskeeps | and it needs to be a tiny and fast daemon |
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| 18:00.54 | b-man16 | it's verry resource friendly |
| 18:00.59 | b-man16 | it should be possible with Ejscript - since it's system wide js |
| 18:01.05 | b-man16 | wb z4chh |
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| 18:01.17 | b-man16 | z4chh - i got Palm Pre WebOS chroot on my tablet!! |
| 18:01.30 | b-man16 | it works!!! |
| 18:01.36 | Stskeeps | define works.. runs? |
| 18:01.37 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 18:01.41 | b-man16 | yup |
| 18:01.45 | Stskeeps | as in, you can see a display? |
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| 18:02.14 | b-man16 | i haven't gotten to that point yet |
| 18:02.17 | Stskeeps | k |
| 18:02.24 | b-man16 | but hopefully |
| 18:02.48 | lcuk_the_grey | webos is on the whole a "sane" linux |
| 18:02.53 | b-man16 | it even uses a maemo-like sysv init startup system |
| 18:02.56 | lcuk_the_grey | wit ha nice frosted java based topping |
| 18:03.18 | b-man16 | /etc/init.d |
| 18:03.24 | Stskeeps | b-man16: but ejscript requires webserver running in some degree i guess |
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| 18:03.40 | Stskeeps | or can it run standalone |
| 18:03.59 | b-man16 | it can runn standalone |
| 18:04.15 | Stskeeps | get me a top of it at some point |
| 18:04.24 | b-man16 | k |
| 18:04.52 | b-man16 | grabs the link |
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| 18:05.39 | pupnik | watch this: iphone 3g software - fun starts at 0:50 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBI5HwitBX4 |
| 18:05.45 | Macer | haha.. wtf.. little bill can't watch the baseball game because i guess his family didn't upgrade to the digital tuner? |
| 18:06.04 | b-man16 | Stskeeps: http://b-man.psykosis.net/projects/ejscript/ - source, development, and binary packages+documentation |
| 18:07.13 | Stskeeps | hm, embedding |
| 18:07.16 | keesj | isnt' this what ohm is doing? |
| 18:07.39 | Macer | pupnik: wtf? :) |
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| 18:07.41 | Macer | what is that? |
| 18:07.48 | b-man16 | plays with WebOS |
| 18:07.57 | keesj | acting on hardware changes |
| 18:08.07 | Macer | that was pretty awesome |
| 18:08.07 | Macer | haha |
| 18:08.14 | pupnik | that is very impressive shit |
| 18:08.23 | keesj | the problem is that you need booth something that runs as root and some other thing that runs with the X session |
| 18:08.44 | Macer | pupnik: yeah. have to give them that one |
| 18:08.46 | Macer | that is awesome |
| 18:08.47 | Macer | haha |
| 18:08.48 | lcuk_the_grey | does the iphone need to disable the window manager to give user access to 3d? |
| 18:09.23 | Stskeeps | keesj: true, but some of that can be abstracted away / done through dbus |
| 18:09.37 | Stskeeps | b-man16: anyway, give me a hint on the actual RAM/CPU usage sometime :) |
| 18:10.00 | keesj | dbus is more like an explosion mechanism to me :p |
| 18:10.14 | Stskeeps | keesj: but it's also to make receipes like .. "when on wlan, turn on gps" or "when mom calls, ignore" |
| 18:10.18 | Stskeeps | that kind of mechanism |
| 18:10.46 | Stskeeps | er, when on DUN, turn on gps |
| 18:10.54 | lcuk_the_grey | take the engine of powerlaunch and give it a sane script interface |
| 18:11.00 | Stskeeps | maybe |
| 18:11.00 | lcuk_the_grey | or just accept powerlaunch does the job |
| 18:12.01 | lcuk_the_grey | longs for AREXX like integration :)( |
| 18:12.20 | lcuk_the_grey | hell, an activex interface to apps would ok ;) |
| 18:12.28 | keesj | yes , we all know GNU/Linux is really a mess, any other os has such things built-in |
| 18:12.46 | lcuk_the_grey | i think arexx only came quite late on |
| 18:12.47 | keesj | that is what keeps me off the street to be honest |
| 18:12.53 | lcuk_the_grey | original apps didnt use it (that i remember) |
| 18:12.57 | lcuk_the_grey | heh |
| 18:13.38 | lcuk_the_grey | Stskeeps, the problem with some of the recipes and interactions is the apps themselves need to expose interfaces to listen or expose their functionality |
| 18:14.09 | lcuk_the_grey | like you mentioned "when mom calls" you can only control skype if it exposed an api to do it from# |
| 18:14.12 | Stskeeps | mm |
| 18:14.50 | Stskeeps | maybe worth looking into some of the agent research |
| 18:14.54 | lcuk_the_grey | and so app developers themselves have to account for it - its just like an additional interface ontop of the preexisting Command line params, user input, and maybe a net api |
| 18:15.31 | lcuk_the_grey | im not sure if QT has a global method for it |
| 18:15.54 | lcuk_the_grey | so you could create an App XYZ with its widget tree, but from externally you could call members of that tree and make events fire etc |
| 18:16.08 | lcuk_the_grey | considers this for liq* stuff :) |
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| 18:22.33 | MishaS | nothing happens? :) |
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| 18:32.13 | domme | moin |
| 18:32.31 | domme | is there an extra support channel for nokia 770? |
| 18:32.46 | Stskeeps | i doubt there's a support channel for even n8x0s :P |
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| 18:32.50 | Stskeeps | what problem do you have? |
| 18:33.50 | domme | my mother's 770 stopped displaying networks once.. then she brought it to a shop and they made it working again.. but navicore (her navigation software) stopped working |
| 18:34.09 | domme | and i couldnt reinstall it |
| 18:34.29 | domme | then i reflashed the 770.. and wlan stopped working now again |
| 18:34.42 | Stskeeps | there's a problem if the 770 is nearby a 802.11n network |
| 18:34.46 | Stskeeps | then it goes "blind" |
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| 18:35.37 | domme | yup, i read that |
| 18:35.48 | domme | but it worked before |
| 18:35.50 | Stskeeps | not sure if its even fixable in software |
| 18:36.25 | domme | i guess my neighbours didnt start a 802.11n network while i was flashing the nokia |
| 18:37.13 | Stskeeps | well, if you find a solution do tell me :P |
| 18:37.17 | Stskeeps | i have a 770 that doesn't do much |
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| 18:38.41 | domme | that's really strange.. and i wonder what that shop/nokia (afaik they sent it to nokia) made |
| 18:39.20 | Stskeeps | if anything, n800/n810s are dead cheap these days |
| 18:40.28 | domme | how much? |
| 18:41.11 | till- | my father got an n810 for about 190 euro from amazon |
| 18:41.15 | domme | 200 euro? that's not dead cheap |
| 18:41.29 | Stskeeps | hmm, i saw cheaper |
| 18:41.31 | domme | that's very expensive if you own a device which is supposed to work |
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| 18:41.45 | Stskeeps | domme: though 770 came out in what, 2005? :P |
| 18:41.57 | domme | Stskeeps: yes, but it worked this afternoon |
| 18:41.58 | Stskeeps | (i agree, i own a 770 too that's not doing much) |
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| 18:43.43 | domme | mhh damn.. :\ |
| 18:43.50 | domme | this really sucks.. |
| 18:44.23 | Stskeeps | what OS version on it? |
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| 18:57.20 | domme | Stskeeps: which it was when it worked? |
| 18:57.42 | domme | 2006 something.. but it looked like the standard n800 theme i saw on laast year's akademy |
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| 19:05.12 | domme | wtf?! |
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| 19:05.46 | domme | i installed an ancient firmware... and wlan seems to work again o.O |
| 19:05.55 | domme | let's see if i can install navicore |
| 19:06.01 | Luke-Jr | domme: uh? 2006 *IS* ancient |
| 19:06.13 | Stskeeps | Luke-Jr: but it isn't half bad on 770 |
| 19:06.24 | domme | Luke-Jr: Nokia_770_3.2005.51-13.bin |
| 19:06.41 | Luke-Jr | oh, 770 |
| 19:06.48 | Luke-Jr | upgrade to a SmartQ ;) |
| 19:06.49 | domme | yup |
| 19:07.00 | domme | it's not even my device |
| 19:07.07 | Luke-Jr | so? :þ |
| 19:07.20 | domme | it would have to tell my mother to upgrade |
| 19:07.35 | Luke-Jr | ok |
| 19:07.37 | Luke-Jr | do that |
| 19:08.10 | b-man16 | gets an Illegal instruction error when re-entering WebOS chroot, hmmm |
| 19:09.04 | Luke-Jr | b-man16: qemu? or native? |
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| 19:09.16 | b-man16 | native |
| 19:09.29 | domme | LOL |
| 19:09.32 | b-man16 | everything else works |
| 19:09.39 | domme | wlan works but navicore fails to install ... |
| 19:09.52 | Luke-Jr | uh |
| 19:09.59 | Luke-Jr | 770 doesn't have a GPS, does it? |
| 19:10.20 | domme | per bluetooth |
| 19:10.23 | Luke-Jr | o i c |
| 19:10.24 | qwerty12_N800 | it does come with something called bluetooth |
| 19:10.43 | Luke-Jr | I still don't understand bluetooth |
| 19:11.00 | domme | it's when you eat too much blueberries |
| 19:11.11 | domme | then you get bluetooth |
| 19:11.18 | domme | severe illness |
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| 19:16.10 | domme | okay, same problem with Nokia_770_SE2005_5_2006_13_7.bin |
| 19:16.52 | domme | i'll try SU-18_2006SE_1.2006.26-8_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 19:17.02 | Stskeeps | be aware of WSOD |
| 19:17.03 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 19:17.08 | domme | wsod? |
| 19:17.24 | Stskeeps | white screen of death |
| 19:17.31 | Stskeeps | too many flashes => dead screen |
| 19:17.34 | domme | uhm |
| 19:17.37 | domme | really? |
| 19:17.52 | Stskeeps | google 770 wsod |
| 19:17.52 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 19:18.38 | domme | mhh |
| 19:18.44 | cosmo | not even too many, i got it on first upgrade |
| 19:18.55 | domme | damn |
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| 19:19.25 | cosmo | i think i was the first to report it. i even lent the device to some nokia guy to diagnose. |
| 19:19.28 | domme | and then.. the device is totally broken? |
| 19:19.55 | cosmo | yep, it needs service |
| 19:20.36 | domme | service? |
| 19:20.37 | cosmo | it's unknown what causes it, but flashing can trigger it |
| 19:20.50 | domme | and nothing can untrigger it? :\ |
| 19:21.18 | cosmo | no, it's bricked |
| 19:21.35 | cosmo | i luckily had warranty left so i got it fixed for free |
| 19:21.58 | domme | okay, last try for today |
| 19:23.55 | cosmo | of course the bug may be fixed in newer hardware.. my 770 was one of the first ones on sale |
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| 19:27.24 | domme | mhh |
| 19:28.22 | domme | dunno.. i'll send my mother to the shop again |
| 19:28.33 | domme | they shall make wlan AND navicore work again |
| 19:28.40 | domme | it once did :\ |
| 19:29.04 | johns_ | can i tell qemu to use -cpu arm1136 without commandline? |
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| 19:31.10 | lcuk | X-Fade, :$ if you are nearby some kind of terminal could you please do something with the 2 projects i just applied to |
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| 19:50.43 | andre__ | VDVsx, pong |
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| 19:53.20 | VDVsx | andre__, I have a question about the 'extra products' in b.m.o, but already asked in the mail that I sent to you :) |
| 19:54.04 | VDVsx | andre__, did you enjoyed the wine ? :P |
| 19:54.18 | andre__ | ah. just put some money in that bag, as per instructions, and you can get your product :-P |
| 19:54.37 | andre__ | oh yeah. what an awesome weather. heavy wind and sun. was great :) |
| 19:54.46 | andre__ | downloads mail |
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| 19:55.44 | VDVsx | :) |
| 19:57.30 | pupnik | can i synthesize sound on dsp while it passes system audio, mixing the two? |
| 19:58.59 | andre__ | VDVsx, looks good. going to create it in the next 30 minutes |
| 20:03.07 | VDVsx | andre__, ok, I only had a doubt about the last topic |
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| 20:05.19 | andre__ | no. perfect |
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| 20:09.30 | Andrew-Work | Anyone seen johnx? |
| 20:10.12 | Stskeeps | he's probably busy with work |
| 20:10.43 | Andrew-Work | I can't figure out how to print this flyer right |
| 20:11.18 | Stskeeps | photoshop |
| 20:11.18 | Stskeeps | ? |
| 20:11.19 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 20:11.30 | aquatix | inkscape |
| 20:11.49 | Andrew-Work | well your suppose to be able to fit two on one 8.5 x 11 paper I think |
| 20:13.20 | Andrew-Work | I guess if i take one to office max they can put two on a page and print me off a couple hundred |
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| 20:32.12 | andre__ | VDVsx, https://bugs.maemo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=BlueMaemo |
| 20:32.27 | andre__ | darn. 34 minutes, not 30. :-P |
| 20:32.34 | VDVsx | lol |
| 20:33.02 | VDVsx | andre__, thanks ;) |
| 20:40.19 | xnt14 | 's favorite phrase: 声ãåºãã¦ç¬ã |
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| 20:43.48 | xnt14 | noone here can read japanese? XD |
| 20:45.09 | inz | xnt, LOL? |
| 20:45.16 | xnt14 | Yup |
| 20:45.18 | xnt14 | :) |
| 20:45.19 | xnt14 | :P |
| 20:45.34 | inz | Google Translate to teh rescue! |
| 20:46.34 | xnt14 | :P |
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| 20:47.03 | xnt14 | Google翻訳ã¯ãæå©ã«ï¼ |
| 20:47.05 | xnt14 | LOL |
| 20:47.51 | b-man16 | lolz |
| 20:48.08 | xnt14 | lol |
| 20:48.21 | b-man16 | lol |
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| 21:24.42 | johns_ | it works http://jumpjack.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/worlds-cheapest-remote-control-replicator-just-1/ |
| 21:25.48 | johns_ | with n810 |
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| 22:16.12 | avraam | Hi. Does anyone know how to make the 810 hardware keyboard work with dosbox? I can't get anything that requires Fn key |
| 22:19.14 | Jaffa | avraam: Tried doing fn + key simultaneously? |
| 22:19.40 | Jaffa | I can't remember if that worked for me or not. ISTR, a virtual keyboard being essential (which I didn't bother with, so stopped playing) |
| 22:23.27 | avraam | fn + key doesn't show anything |
| 22:23.53 | lcuk | avraam, dosbox bypasses hildon input method - its similar with sdl stuff as well |
| 22:24.06 | lcuk | it needs handling manually by the app itself i think |
| 22:24.23 | avraam | I don't want a virtual keyboard, so if I dont' find a solution, I'll uninstall dosbox :-) |
| 22:25.20 | Jaffa | avraam: No solution, then; AFAIK |
| 22:25.33 | avraam | luck, I understand that, anyway, all characters that don't require Fn are working |
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| 22:32.37 | lcuk | avraam, yes, they are normal characters, in maemo hildon input method does extra stuff with the keyboard to make the numbers etc work |
| 22:34.54 | lcuk | Jaffa, i like the idea of musical entertainment |
| 22:35.08 | lcuk | perhaps it would be possible to find people from the cummunity |
| 22:35.25 | Jaffa | Yeah. Someone suggested that before (you?) |
| 22:35.27 | lcuk | we have never broached the topic really, but we must have some budding artists out there |
| 22:35.46 | Jaffa | Well, timsamoff's written film scores and plays loads of instruments AIUI |
| 22:35.47 | lcuk | no, i just want a shared maemo orchestra on the device :) |
| 22:35.55 | Jaffa | :0 |
| 22:35.57 | Jaffa | :) even |
| 22:36.05 | Jaffa | Don't want to put the poor souls to too much work |
| 22:36.15 | lcuk | i want a musical section where you can just zoom in and choose an instrument and jam |
| 22:36.37 | xnt14 | umm, audotouch? |
| 22:36.40 | xnt14 | *audio |
| 22:36.42 | lcuk | have the best instruments there for people to pickup and play :) |
| 22:36.44 | Jaffa | Watching a decent band play music you know and can sing along to definitely improves the atmosphere. I enjoyed the party last year, but the auto-generated techno wasn't to my taste and there was no focus for people to be communal at. |
| 22:36.44 | xnt14 | tbeta? |
| 22:36.59 | lcuk | boxar and pyano and theramin prove the concept |
| 22:37.04 | lcuk | but they are not together |
| 22:37.07 | xnt14 | the ipod/iphone has an app called band, that has instruments |
| 22:37.37 | xnt14 | lcuk: http://sethsandler.com/ |
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| 22:37.49 | xnt14 | http://sethsandler.com/audiotouch/ |
| 22:38.03 | lcuk | cool |
| 22:38.25 | xnt14 | :) |
| 22:38.49 | xnt14 | so you basically want a piano app for liqbase? |
| 22:39.00 | xnt14 | would be hard with no multitouch :P |
| 22:39.03 | lcuk | no, i want to strum a guitar actually |
| 22:39.19 | lcuk | using a plectrum :) |
| 22:39.19 | xnt14 | lol, that is feasible |
| 22:39.30 | lcuk | different x position is the note |
| 22:39.36 | lcuk | obviously strumming is strength |
| 22:39.42 | lcuk | just simple :) |
| 22:40.00 | lcuk | sits and strums the kinetics in calendar and thinks |
| 22:40.19 | lcuk | theres columns which represent notes |
| 22:40.28 | xnt14 | :) |
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| 22:42.17 | VDVsx | avraam, the fn key generate a "ISO_Level3_Shift", just in case you want to map it |
| 22:42.20 | xnt14 | they also have an app called tbeta for a diy mt table |
| 22:42.34 | xnt14 | http://www.nuigroup.com/ |
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| 22:43.35 | xnt14 | http://nuicode.com/projects/tbeta |
| 22:43.53 | xnt14 | needs to get one of those tables :P |
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| 22:44.49 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: ping - have you changed the way merbot posts to the mailing list? The author no longer contains the nick on http://n2.nabble.com/Mer-Chatter-f2732813.xml :-( |
| 22:45.16 | VDVsx | Jaffa, seems that this year they (nokia) are planning in having some kinda o techno music again :( |
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| 22:45.47 | Jaffa | Gah. I thought the Finns liked Lordi ;-) |
| 22:46.03 | Jaffa | VDVsx: Is that on the schedule page? I shouldn't look - I should go to bed |
| 22:46.59 | domme | lordi are boring :D |
| 22:47.00 | lcuk | /etc/init.s/jaffa sleep |
| 22:47.00 | lcuk | or somesuch nonsense |
| 22:47.00 | Jaffa | domme: Yeah, I want cheesy rock pop :) |
| 22:47.00 | Jaffa | lcuk: no such file or directory |
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| 22:47.01 | lcuk | ahhh well |
| 22:47.02 | domme | Jaffa: i want sonata arctica :D |
| 22:47.07 | lcuk | hates the command line |
| 22:47.10 | VDVsx | Jaffa, I catch this in a twitt from Jussi |
| 22:47.13 | VDVsx | 1 sec |
| 22:47.42 | Jaffa | VDVsx: *Which* Jussi, btw? ;-) Says party's being organised by him, but I've got two @nokia.com Jussi's in gmail apparently. |
| 22:48.05 | VDVsx | Jaffa, dunno :P |
| 22:48.10 | xnt14 | lol |
| 22:48.19 | VDVsx | Jaffa, lcuk know him |
| 22:48.24 | VDVsx | *knows |
| 22:48.29 | Jaffa | http://twitter.com/luovanto ? |
| 22:48.39 | Jaffa | Or http://vilunki.wordpress.com/ ? :-/ |
| 22:48.47 | lcuk | http://twitter.com/lcuk |
| 22:48.51 | lcuk | 1st jaffa |
| 22:48.52 | Jaffa | Ah no, Kukkonen's not at Nokia anymore, IIRC |
| 22:48.56 | Jaffa | lcuk: ta |
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| 22:49.07 | VDVsx | Jaffa, that one |
| 22:49.23 | VDVsx | ^luovanto |
| 22:49.34 | mavhc | that's why I say at home, the food's what I like, the music is what I like, /ignore works, and closer to bed |
| 22:49.41 | VDVsx | Jaffa, "@russchimes Would you be interested to do a DJ gig in Amsterdam? Exact date Friday October 9th. Fully compensated naturally." |
| 22:51.08 | mavhc | need a sign on my door: will go outside for money, or 3d 30ft wide cinema projections |
| 22:52.12 | lcuk | but if they give you one of those it will block the door and you will be trapped forever |
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| 22:53.09 | lcuk | Jaffa, mud builder |
| 22:53.24 | lcuk | is it practical to create multiple packages in same way as autobuilder and obs etc |
| 22:53.41 | avraam | HA! fixed |
| 22:53.52 | avraam | I found the infos on the forum |
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| 22:54.10 | Jaffa | lcuk: i.e. one mud package -> multiple debs in repo? Yes, because ultimately mud's just a convenience function around producing/tweaking debian/* |
| 22:54.24 | lcuk | sounds good |
| 22:54.48 | lcuk | so if i needed slight alterations (like specific #defines for different platforms) i could set it up |
| 22:54.51 | lcuk | or are there better ways |
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| 22:55.13 | lcuk | hiya zakkm |
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| 22:55.17 | lcuk | bye zakkm |
| 22:55.26 | xnt14 | lol |
| 22:55.42 | Jaffa | lcuk: Not sure. You could definitely do it with mud: Graham Cobb has one mud package generate different SDK output, so I don't see it being a problem. |
| 22:55.47 | xnt14 | sits back and reads gizmodo |
| 22:55.50 | Macer | hello |
| 22:56.13 | xnt14 | ookk, |
| 22:56.22 | xnt14 | nevermind |
| 22:56.44 | lcuk | Jaffa, i suppose with the simple tweaks i should be able to identify build time flags or system or something |
| 22:56.58 | lcuk | ill look into that method first |
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| 22:57.13 | lcuk | so i just have a standard single /debian and source setup for the plats |
| 22:57.16 | lcuk | hi Macer |
| 23:01.57 | lcuk | thinks he broke the autobuilder |
| 23:02.14 | LiraNuna | from 2.6.30 kernel changes - # Support for the Nokia RX-51 Internet Tablet.Initial (commit) |
| 23:02.17 | LiraNuna | :3 |
| 23:02.24 | Jaffa | Oooh, found a Dutch Queen cover band: http://www.miracle-online.nl/promo/ - seem to be rather good :) |
| 23:02.38 | Jaffa | (watching the "Don't Stop Me Now" video) |
| 23:03.05 | lcuk | cant we get like coldplay themselves to be there lol |
| 23:03.16 | Jaffa | Coldplay would probably be cheaper ;-) |
| 23:03.17 | lcuk | they are into open source music |
| 23:03.25 | lcuk | it would be a coup |
| 23:03.31 | lcuk | and we never know until we ask |
| 23:03.39 | Jaffa | Or Gina G (we founded a "Cheesy Music Society" at warwick.ac.uk with the sole intent of booking Gina G for the union) |
| 23:03.50 | lcuk | :D |
| 23:05.40 | lcuk | mmm https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2009-June/thread.html |
| 23:05.50 | lcuk | i think fremantle builder is upto something |
| 23:05.56 | lcuk | (look at bottom of list) |
| 23:06.47 | VDVsx | Jaffa, they are good :P |
| 23:08.30 | VDVsx | lcuk, secret packages o_0 |
| 23:08.56 | lcuk | either that or i fucked up when i pushed my packages to diablo lol |
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| 23:15.52 | Jaffa | Right, bed time. |
| 23:16.02 | Jaffa | Damnit, I wanted an early night! |
| 23:16.54 | lcuk | gnite Jaffa |
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| 23:35.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | not even 7pm yet! |
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| 23:55.34 | AOD_tomaterr | hi |
| 23:56.23 | AOD_tomaterr | I can't figure out how to change my nick in xchat |
| 23:57.40 | tank-man | type /nick newname |
| 23:58.17 | AOD_tomaterr | ah ty |
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