| 00:01.44 | jophish | lcuk, I looked at the /system/http_proxy settings in gconftool-2 and use_http_proxy is set to false! |
| 00:02.52 | lcuk | jophish, :S i dunno whether thats good or bad, its just something new to me to hear about people having this kind of problem |
| 00:08.45 | pupnik | i must praise nokia for N810 durability and reliability |
| 00:09.02 | luke-jr | pupnik: why? |
| 00:09.08 | pupnik | i do manage to crash the system every few days though |
| 00:09.46 | pupnik | luke-jr, just happy with it. i guess as cell phones go, that is not unusual |
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| 00:10.31 | pupnik | but .. we are talking, foot catching power cable and the thing flying onto tile/concrete |
| 00:11.22 | jophish | hmm, tried with a different wireless network, same problem |
| 00:22.07 | jophish | lcuk, would you mind testing for me? |
| 00:23.01 | KamikaziFreak | Does anyone know about the hack to get the old xterm with ctrl and other buttons on the right side on os2008? |
| 00:23.59 | lcuk | http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/12/31/adding-pipe-and-tab-to-the-n810-keyboard/ |
| 00:23.59 | lcuk | yes, im busy |
| 00:26.20 | KamikaziFreak | lcuk, if that was for me, I'm talking about something else. |
| 00:27.09 | lcuk | isnt on form tonight lol |
| 00:27.58 | jophish | garr, I don't believe that this could be so complex |
| 00:28.20 | jophish | refusing to use no proxy |
| 00:28.46 | jophish | it uses a proxy fine, however when no proxy is set, application manager defaults to 1.0.0.0 |
| 00:29.11 | KamikaziFreak | There's a hack somewhere that breaks the os2008 feature upgrade in the app manager (making it show up as needing upgrading), but lets you install the older version of osso-xterm. |
| 00:30.13 | KamikaziFreak | I had it working before my tablet crashed, but can't seem to find it again |
| 00:34.53 | jophish | ah, seems this isn't a proxy problem, but a dns problem |
| 00:36.55 | KamikaziFreak | Aha, found it again. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/users/31212 |
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| 00:55.21 | jophish | lcuk, good news, I got it working by using opendns |
| 00:55.39 | b-man16 | lcuk, http://b-man.psykosis.net/projects/ubuntu/gallery/ :) |
| 00:55.54 | b-man16 | entirely re designed |
| 00:56.51 | jophish | well, working for two repo's maemo.org and one nokia one are not working |
| 00:57.08 | lcuk | that is a fucked up ui, but i think most should work in liqbase lol |
| 00:57.28 | lcuk | cool joph |
| 00:57.40 | lcuk | beds anyway |
| 00:58.01 | jophish | goodnight |
| 00:58.26 | b-man16 | lcuk, thanks :) |
| 00:58.32 | lcuk | \o gnite b-man16 jophish |
| 00:58.51 | lcuk | b-man16, its only 6 images being alpha blitted in certain places |
| 00:58.58 | lcuk | bacon did that in original liqbase ;) |
| 00:59.17 | b-man16 | yeah, but it's still a bit of a concept |
| 00:59.19 | b-man16 | ;) |
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| 01:00.33 | lcuk | b-man16, would be cool if you could balance the images and tip them around based on the orientation of the tablet ;) |
| 01:00.47 | lcuk | really beds tho |
| 01:01.27 | b-man16 | yeah, if we had an accelerometer |
| 01:01.34 | b-man16 | XD |
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| 01:03.00 | b-man16 | updates it to support links |
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| 01:45.28 | pupnik | in browser, i try to hilight text, but it always pans |
| 01:45.38 | pupnik | what am i doing wrong? |
| 01:46.11 | tank-man | try double click the word then drag |
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| 02:26.41 | pupnik | can i disable pannng in browser? |
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| 02:47.58 | tonikitoo| | pupnik, no way to disable pan |
| 02:48.34 | tonikitoo| | dbl tap and drag is your only alternative, i am afraid |
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| 02:53.34 | awlship | hello |
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| 04:43.35 | man_in_shack | website having issues? |
| 04:45.31 | man_in_shack | eew, gpe sudoku is described as "math" game |
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| 04:52.07 | man_in_shack | ooh, maemo port of powermanga |
| 04:53.28 | inz | man, it has numbers; it must be math |
| 04:55.41 | inz | alhough, just about anything with numbers isn't real math, it's algebra |
| 04:56.17 | man_in_shack | you could easily replace the numbers with any other set of 9 unique symbols |
| 04:56.45 | inz | true |
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| 04:57.42 | inz | indeed it is a logic puzzle; but one might argue that logics is math |
| 05:01.08 | man_in_shack | more like maths is logic :D |
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| 05:05.09 | Guest3122_234 | someone know when the extra repo be udated? |
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| 07:01.17 | thux | morning |
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| 07:07.38 | ifvoid | hm |
| 07:07.46 | ifvoid | how do I enter an escape? |
| 07:07.49 | ifvoid | as in vi |
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| 07:09.08 | Razu | Pressing esc? |
| 07:10.21 | thangam_Arun | hello all |
| 07:10.35 | thangam_Arun | i am trying to access this URL http://www.bman.maemobox.org/projects/ubuntu-n8x0/Ubuntu-9.04-N8x0-v2.1.tar.gz |
| 07:10.38 | ifvoid | Razu: uhm, on my n800 I mean ;) |
| 07:10.49 | thangam_Arun | i am not able to get it |
| 07:11.18 | thangam_Arun | is this url is down or moved to different name ?? |
| 07:11.25 | Razu | ifvoid: You have the auxilliary button bar in terminal? At least in n810 esc is there by default. |
| 07:12.15 | Razu | If not go to setting and add it. Set as value Escape |
| 07:12.37 | thangam_Arun | any help please ?? |
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| 07:14.00 | ifvoid | Razu: ah hm |
| 07:14.17 | ifvoid | Razu: I was using a different terminal from extras that doesn't have the extra buttons |
| 07:14.29 | Razu | ifvoid: Ok :) |
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| 07:15.25 | thangam_Arun | i am trying to download Ubuntu-9.04 root image for N810 |
| 07:15.42 | thangam_Arun | but i am not able to get it !! |
| 07:15.48 | thangam_Arun | any idea ?? |
| 07:16.55 | thangam_Arun | no body is there to help me ?? |
| 07:17.20 | thangam_Arun | i googled lot but no idea .. |
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| 07:21.13 | thangam_Arun | where to get ubuntu root filesystem for nokia tablet n800 |
| 07:23.25 | thux | thangam_Arun: http://www.bman.maemobox.org/projects/ubuntu-n8x0/Ubuntu-9.04-N8x0-v2.1.tar.gz |
| 07:24.17 | thux | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=25975 |
| 07:25.29 | thangam_Arun | thux: no that URL is not accessable |
| 07:26.46 | thangam_Arun | thux: i tried but there is no way to get that rootfs |
| 07:27.45 | thux | ah ok then i don't know |
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| 07:48.52 | RST38h | moo all |
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| 08:11.02 | RST38h | Ehehe, the http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=29460 thread on ITT promises to be lots of fun =) |
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| 08:12.51 | Macer | well. after the 2nd time around |
| 08:12.56 | Macer | using opensolaris as a desktop isn't that bad at all |
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| 08:16.57 | RST38h | Macer: I greatly hope you are using OLWM, aren't you? |
| 08:19.08 | amit_dusual | hi all, i am trying to install some python library on my scratchbox but i get this error:could not create '/scratchbox/tools/lib/python2.3/site-packages/easy': Permission denied Is there some problem with fakeroot?? |
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| 08:20.43 | Macer | huh? |
| 08:20.50 | Macer | OLWM? |
| 08:21.03 | Macer | i'm using gnome. that's what comes with 2009.06 |
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| 08:22.35 | Macer | and like |
| 08:22.39 | Macer | olwm? :) |
| 08:22.47 | Macer | huh?http://xwinman.org/screenshots/olwm.gif |
| 08:22.57 | Macer | i hope that isn't what you are talking about :) |
| 08:24.39 | RST38h | Macer: No, you DEFINITELY should be using OLWM =) |
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| 08:30.51 | Macer | heh |
| 08:30.54 | Macer | no thanks |
| 08:31.09 | Macer | it's working great as a desktop |
| 08:31.17 | Macer | although i need to build mplayer or something |
| 08:31.23 | Macer | or xine.. anything that has internal codecs |
| 08:31.26 | RST38h | no repositories? |
| 08:31.39 | Macer | i'm not sure about mplayer |
| 08:31.47 | Macer | i've just started installing things like flash |
| 08:32.07 | Macer | (official flash built for open/solaris) :) |
| 08:32.08 | suihkulokki | olwm/xview was one the few packages we at debian did not bother to port for armel :) |
| 08:32.15 | Macer | lol |
| 08:32.50 | Macer | man i love this video where the dude running from a bait car runs onto a golf course and steals a damn golf cart |
| 08:33.07 | suihkulokki | I actually asked for it's removal but apparently it still has it's fans |
| 08:33.16 | Macer | olwm? |
| 08:33.24 | suihkulokki | yes |
| 08:33.26 | Macer | i am sure there are some people thathave really made it look nice |
| 08:33.41 | Macer | i mean you have to put a lot more work into it but i'm sure you can do pretty nice stuff to it |
| 08:33.56 | Macer | just like flux or blackbox |
| 08:34.49 | suihkulokki | trouble is that xview (the toolkit olwm is built on) doesn't work (properly) on any 64bit arch either |
| 08:35.31 | Macer | what i really hate about the opensolaris gnome is taht the media player only sends you to download codecs that have to be paid for |
| 08:35.34 | Macer | wtf? |
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| 08:36.19 | balor | Does the N810 have OpenGL ES on board? |
| 08:36.34 | suihkulokki | short answer: no |
| 08:37.21 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 08:39.27 | X-Fade | Morning Jaffa |
| 08:39.29 | MakeGho | Hi. My n810 suddenly started to type ø and æ when I press ö and ä buttons. Any ideas how to fix that? |
| 08:39.58 | RST38h | the characters you are typing look like Unicode trash to me, so no idea |
| 08:40.11 | aquatix | RST38h: fix your irc client ;) |
| 08:40.21 | aquatix | MakeGho: might be a locale issue |
| 08:40.27 | RST38h | aquatix: F-Secure SSH Client here |
| 08:40.35 | aquatix | did you change the locale settings lately? |
| 08:40.42 | MakeGho | nope, didn't |
| 08:40.45 | aquatix | rhm |
| 08:40.51 | aquatix | -r |
| 08:41.00 | MakeGho | it started all sudden, I didn't even install anything |
| 08:41.06 | aquatix | RST38h: does it have a utf8 option? |
| 08:41.15 | RST38h | aquatix: no idea, lemme try |
| 08:41.21 | suihkulokki | MakeGho: looks like danish keymap |
| 08:41.24 | aquatix | MakeGho: might be a fluke, maybe a simple reboot will fix it |
| 08:41.44 | aquatix | yeah, or swedish maybe |
| 08:42.10 | RST38h | no. |
| 08:42.35 | MakeGho | Finnish keymap = Swedish keymap btw |
| 08:42.58 | MakeGho | aquatix, reboot didn't fix |
| 08:42.59 | balor | suihkulokki: Long answer probably includes Mesa and Gallium? |
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| 08:43.28 | MakeGho | I also switched this to Swedish and back but it didn't help |
| 08:43.41 | MakeGho | could try some weird language and back too |
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| 08:45.53 | MakeGho | could there be some shortcut key like alt+shift in windows? |
| 08:50.24 | RST38h | there is language selector |
| 08:50.37 | RST38h | in the virtual keyboard menu, anyway |
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| 08:54.56 | MakeGho | ctrl+chr fixed it |
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| 08:55.01 | MakeGho | thanks all |
| 08:56.13 | RST38h | heh |
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| 09:03.52 | balor | I have a hello-world app, how do I start it on maemo 4.1? af-sb-init.sh hello? |
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| 09:04.08 | sarower | hello...........all |
| 09:04.11 | Jaffa | balor: On the SDK? |
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| 09:04.27 | balor | Jaffa: On the scratchbox enviroment in the SDK |
| 09:04.31 | Jaffa | balor: run-standalone.sh ./hello (af-sb-init.sh just starts the deskto environment) |
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| 09:04.55 | sarower | what are the technologies related to Internet connectivity and communication in maemo...? |
| 09:04.56 | balor | Jaffa: thanks. So I should af-sb-init.sh& and then run standalone |
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| 09:05.17 | sarower | I want to work on it... |
| 09:05.31 | sarower | any body there .. who can give a guidance |
| 09:05.35 | Jaffa | balor: 'af-sb-init.sh start' - starts stuff backgrounded anyway, so & unnecessary |
| 09:05.36 | sarower | Please! |
| 09:05.59 | Jaffa | sarower: What do you mean "related to Internet connectivity and communication in Maemo"? |
| 09:06.22 | sarower | suppose i want to establish a connection with other device.... |
| 09:06.33 | sarower | which way or technology i have to study? |
| 09:07.16 | Macer | that is a rather large list isn't it? |
| 09:07.30 | Jaffa | sarower: Bluetooth or (ad-hoc) wifi. The protocol you then speak if up to you. |
| 09:07.48 | Jaffa | I believe INdT had a library for games comms, but ICBW |
| 09:08.05 | sarower | no ... i want to do it programatically through internet..! |
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| 09:08.08 | parigaudi | hi |
| 09:08.27 | sarower | which API or library? |
| 09:08.39 | sarower | i have to study? |
| 09:09.07 | parigaudi | i tried to compile the camera example, but it seems like the pkgconfig .pc file is missing for the gstreamer-interfaces-0.10 in the diablo sdk |
| 09:09.17 | parigaudi | where do i get that file? |
| 09:09.22 | parigaudi | or what's the solution? |
| 09:09.50 | man_in_shack | sarower, obex may help you with bluetooth. ad-hoc wifi is probably easier for the programmer, because it's just a regular network |
| 09:10.05 | Jaffa | sarower: Anything using TCP/IP; but you probably also want to look at the icd interface to prompt for network connections on demand |
| 09:10.21 | sarower | Jaffa: yah right... |
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| 09:11.05 | parigaudi | or what do i need to compile the camera example? |
| 09:11.55 | sarower | I mean... suppose we can use cairo for drawing....? then what it would be for internet connection? |
| 09:12.34 | flux | sarower, I think you are looking for the BSD sockets interface |
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| 09:12.39 | Jaffa | sarower: Use icd to establish a network connection; then the BSD sockets interface |
| 09:12.51 | sarower | in maemo...? |
| 09:13.03 | sarower | Jaffa? |
| 09:13.04 | Jaffa | Or any Linux library built on top of it (if you want to use HTTP or SOAP or REST or ...) |
| 09:13.10 | Jaffa | sarower: Yes, in Maemo. |
| 09:13.53 | sarower | i will use maemomm (OSSO C++). So is it possible to use SOAP there? |
| 09:14.47 | Jaffa | sarower: top result on Google for "c++ linux soap" is http://users.skynet.be/pascalbotte/rcx-ws-doc/gsoap.htm |
| 09:14.56 | Jaffa | has only ever done SOAP in Java, so YMMV |
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| 09:16.34 | sarower | Ok Jaffa... Thanks... and let me check these things! later i will talk to you. |
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| 09:20.54 | parigaudi | brb |
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| 09:26.27 | Summeli | gsoap works very well with Maemo |
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| 09:29.29 | lcuk | lol jaffa, im surprised there were results for linux and soap in the same query |
| 09:34.15 | RST38h | "The presidency of the Gabonese Republic would like to stress that the President of the Republic, the Head of State, His Excellency Omar Bongo is not dead." |
| 09:34.30 | Stskeeps | it's quite often those things happen |
| 09:34.37 | Stskeeps | "he's actually a zombie" |
| 09:34.55 | RST38h | French zombie to believe the BBC |
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| 09:36.25 | Jaffa | lcuk: Never underestimate the power of the dark side |
| 09:37.59 | RST38h | the soapy power of the dark side... |
| 09:39.12 | Jaffa | Clean and shiney dark side, compared with the grubby light side. Hmm. |
| 09:39.50 | RST38h | What part of Microsoft's crap is clean? |
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| 09:46.49 | lcuk | is the darkside |
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| 09:50.03 | Jaffa | RST38h: SOAP makes things clean, and who mentioned MS? ;-) |
| 09:50.11 | Jaffa | s/SOAP/Soap/ |
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| 09:53.10 | RST38h | Jaffa: SOAP involves so much worthless XML glue that it rarely fits into UDP packets |
| 09:53.24 | RST38h | In fact, a copuple of my friends hit that when doing VoIP :) |
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| 09:54.07 | RST38h | wazd, lcuk, jaffa: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=295211&postcount=29 |
| 09:54.15 | RST38h | Enjoy, folks :) |
| 09:54.57 | Macer | well... opensolaris is good |
| 09:55.53 | wazd | RST38h: I just want to copy 500 songs to the other card |
| 09:56.16 | lcuk | RST38h, "s such a royal pain in the tukhes. " thats gotta hurt |
| 09:56.21 | RST38h | wazd: Then give him hell before this view of the situation gets implemented in Fremantle release |
| 09:56.42 | RST38h | lcuk: You try opening a directory with 100+ files in fMSX or Speccy and see :) |
| 09:57.12 | lcuk | RST38h, i *KNOW* your pain, i had the same problem, i have hundreds of book fils |
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| 09:57.27 | RST38h | lcuk: Same, go haunt Quim |
| 09:57.40 | lcuk | on liqbase classic version i put up a crappy file select, the one in the newer one is even worse for now |
| 09:58.02 | lcuk | why, i dont use it - when i want files randomly i either put up with the file manager thats there |
| 09:58.22 | lcuk | its VERY rare i ever see the gtk dialog |
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| 09:58.22 | lcuk | i use winscp which has file tree normally |
| 09:58.24 | RST38h | If we do not haunt Quim on these issues, he will have the "nobody complained about the beta" defense when everyone gets pissed about N900 |
| 09:58.35 | lcuk | but its linux |
| 09:58.42 | lcuk | you can just install whatever makes you happy |
| 09:58.45 | lcuk | kot has mc |
| 09:58.45 | Macer | i didn't know that in canada all you have to do to get guns through the airport is to smuggle them in clay |
| 09:58.50 | Macer | oh wait.. this movie came out in 1995 |
| 09:58.56 | lcuk | i use the builtin one |
| 09:59.05 | lcuk | for the rare times i need it it works |
| 09:59.10 | Macer | when you could move huge quantities of cocaine through the airports |
| 09:59.14 | RST38h | Macer: need more clay now |
| 09:59.58 | KayDeeEeJon | hi |
| 10:00.01 | lcuk | RST38h, ive got the raw starting point for a wicked smooth file select dialog that will be completed in time |
| 10:00.06 | Macer | haha |
| 10:00.17 | Macer | "The Sons of the Dragons" |
| 10:00.17 | Macer | haha |
| 10:00.27 | lcuk | i'd rather not complain at problems but try to visualise solutions |
| 10:00.40 | Macer | it just isn't a good asian assassin movie without having something or something without the word dragon in it |
| 10:00.52 | lcuk | but ill bbl |
| 10:01.32 | Macer | it's like asian bourne |
| 10:03.16 | RST38h | lcuk: the problem with the stuff you are doing is that it is still just a demo that has nothing to do with the standard frameworks (GTK+ in our case) or applications |
| 10:03.55 | RST38h | lcuk: So, personnally, I will say "liqbase is a success" when I start seeing first liqbase-based apps (image viewers, book readers, file managers) appearing in Extras |
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| 10:26.55 | man_in_shack | 8999999999999999999999999999999 |
| 10:29.07 | pupnik_ | ty tonikitoo| |
| 10:40.42 | KayDeeEeJon | about the camera api again: i can't compile the camera example because pkgconfig doesn't find a package for gstreamer-interfaces (in diablo sdk) |
| 10:41.30 | KayDeeEeJon | and googling around, i found some irc log from here where someone said the .pc file was missing (i.e. gstreamer-interfaces-0.10.pc) |
| 10:41.47 | KayDeeEeJon | so how do i get the camera example to build with diablo sdk? |
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| 10:47.25 | Stskeeps | it's incredible how many people go right ahead when things are marked as strictly experimental and then are surprised when it bricks their devices.. |
| 10:48.00 | Stskeeps | "this image, might for what it's worth, turn your device into a raving killing machine and cause doomsday to come about" |
| 10:49.09 | aquatix | `or might eat your lunch, whatever scares you most' |
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| 10:59.39 | RST38h | Stskeeps: what about displaying skull and crossbones while booting? =) |
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| 11:00.03 | Stskeeps | RST38h: i thought the maemo.org log would be enough warning ;P |
| 11:00.06 | Stskeeps | logo |
| 11:00.26 | Stskeeps | (we haven't added that to boot screen yet) |
| 11:00.28 | aquatix | didn't know maemo.org was that scary ;) |
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| 11:20.03 | Stskeeps | heh, airbus plane landing in gran canaria .. some media claim an engine was on fire.. and a spokesman say "the plane had undefined problems".. which is kinda fatal in a plane that's digital fly-by-wire |
| 11:20.07 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 11:21.09 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: And has not manual(human) override mode. |
| 11:21.14 | Stskeeps | yes |
| 11:21.21 | X-Fade | *no |
| 11:21.34 | Stskeeps | i would freak out if a plane console started showing "undefined" or "NULL" on screens |
| 11:21.42 | RST38h | Isn't that beautiful engineering? |
| 11:22.10 | Stskeeps | or worse off, "null" |
| 11:22.12 | RST38h | can almost see some Airbus manager explaining to the pilots that the manual control is "not an intended use case" |
| 11:22.24 | X-Fade | I was also amazed at the the air france plane being unfindable at first. |
| 11:22.40 | X-Fade | Is it so hard to just slap a gps tracker on that 200M plane ;) |
| 11:22.54 | Stskeeps | X-Fade: when it's several meters under the surface of water, maybe |
| 11:22.55 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 11:23.02 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: Last know position? |
| 11:23.07 | Stskeeps | true |
| 11:23.25 | X-Fade | That should narrow the search radius to a few square km.. |
| 11:23.32 | RST38h | X-Fade: It is there |
| 11:23.54 | X-Fade | RST38h: Why were they searching in 100s of square km radius then? |
| 11:23.59 | RST38h | X-Fade: The problem of course is that 1) it needs power to operate and 2) radio signals do not penetrate water well |
| 11:24.22 | Robot101 | 3) the water moves |
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| 11:24.28 | RST38h | X-Fade: Once you lose tracking signal, you have to assume that the bird can fly as far as its remaining fuel allows |
| 11:24.31 | X-Fade | RST38h: Reporting every minute or even every 10 secs will help? |
| 11:24.34 | RST38h | X-Fade: Hence 100kms |
| 11:24.51 | Stskeeps | mount a n810 on top of the plane |
| 11:24.51 | Stskeeps | :P |
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| 11:25.08 | X-Fade | I just would have expected a better resolution with current technology. |
| 11:25.22 | RST38h | X-Fade: Again: the moment you lose the signal (to whatever causes), you have to assume that the plane may go as far as fuel allows |
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| 11:25.44 | Noma | But why they don't build a device that has its own power system and satellite connection and send the position via satellite every 10sec to the ground? And maybe even the blackbox data? |
| 11:25.57 | X-Fade | RST38h: Why would you lose GPS tracker signal at the same time. (If this was an engine or onboard computer problem) |
| 11:26.13 | X-Fade | Noma: Exactly. That should be separate. |
| 11:26.14 | RST38h | X-Fade: Power trouble for example |
| 11:26.30 | RST38h | X-Fade: eletromagnetic interference. terrorist act. |
| 11:26.38 | Stskeeps | meteor.. |
| 11:26.38 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 11:26.46 | RST38h | The short answer is "you do not know" |
| 11:27.03 | RST38h | And with so many lives at stake, you have to consider all options |
| 11:27.05 | X-Fade | RST38h: Well in this case it looks like the airspeed indicator was broken. |
| 11:27.13 | RST38h | Quite possible |
| 11:27.18 | X-Fade | So they basically stalled while in a storm. |
| 11:27.37 | RST38h | Airspeed isn't very reliable thing to measure anyway |
| 11:28.02 | pupnik_ | anybody got nmap for os2008? 2007 doesnt work |
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| 11:31.39 | Noma | by the way, what prevents to mount the blackbox somewhere on the plane so that it would separate from the plane when it detects that the plane hits the water? |
| 11:31.40 | Stskeeps | according to some, it is mounted nearby the tail |
| 11:32.42 | Noma | but still it has gone to the bottom with the plane |
| 11:33.27 | Stskeeps | i still dislike flying, heh |
| 11:33.42 | RST38h | It is safer than driving though |
| 11:33.57 | Noma | and safer than trains and boats |
| 11:34.11 | RST38h | You have not mentioned the bicycles |
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| 11:34.25 | RST38h | bicycles are real killers, eclipsed only by motorbikes |
| 11:34.27 | aquatix | or walking |
| 11:34.34 | Stskeeps | tank deaths. |
| 11:34.34 | Stskeeps | .:P |
| 11:34.47 | Noma | the newspaper i read just compared planes, cars, trains and boats :p |
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| 11:34.49 | aquatix | fighter jets |
| 11:35.28 | RST38h | rhinos, anybody? =) |
| 11:35.42 | Stskeeps | death by elephant seems to exist to |
| 11:35.43 | Stskeeps | o |
| 11:36.24 | RST38h | yes, a popular way of execution in India during British rule |
| 11:36.37 | jaska | brutish rule |
| 11:36.44 | aquatix | *trample* |
| 11:38.36 | inz | RST, staying at home isn't too safe either |
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| 11:40.35 | aquatix | most accidents happen in and round your home |
| 11:41.19 | inz | Suddenly flying sounds quite safe |
| 11:41.29 | inz | I'll never set my foot on ground again! |
| 11:41.52 | aquatix | my next home is an aeroplane |
| 11:42.09 | lcuk | when the sky becomes your home the accident rate rises.. |
| 11:42.32 | aquatix | shush ;) |
| 11:42.40 | locutus | i prefer submarines |
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| 11:42.59 | lcuk | submarine racing :: not a spectator sport |
| 11:43.30 | inz | There was big headline yesterday in some finnish "news"paper, freely translated as: "A sunken submarine was found from the bottom of the ocean" |
| 11:43.41 | inz | I wonder where they were looking before that... |
| 11:44.01 | lcuk | heh |
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| 11:47.52 | aquatix | inz: lol |
| 11:49.08 | RST38h | Actually, NOTHING beats eating cucumbers in terms of fataities |
| 11:49.25 | RST38h | 100% of people who ate cucumbers in XIX century are dead |
| 11:49.36 | aquatix | yep |
| 11:49.42 | aquatix | same with breathing oxygen |
| 11:49.47 | aquatix | also a 100% fatality rate |
| 11:49.57 | inz | And drinking water |
| 11:50.47 | thux | vodka is very healthy instead |
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| 11:50.49 | RST38h | hydrogen monoxide poisonings are known to happen, yes |
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| 11:52.26 | lcuk | RST38h, 19th century 1800 .. 1900 - there are people around who are over 109 years old, so your statement might well be false |
| 11:53.10 | RST38h | lcuk: poisonous cucumber consumption usually starts at the age of 5 or so |
| 11:53.20 | RST38h | maybe a bit earlier |
| 11:53.47 | RST38h | otherwise these may be rare survivors who avoided cucumbers all their lives =) |
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| 11:56.04 | lcuk | i cannot find any facts on longevity of cucumber eaters |
| 11:56.24 | X-Fade | ask wolfram ;) |
| 11:56.27 | lcuk | RST38h, is your study another scp? |
| 11:56.31 | lcuk | heh X-Fade |
| 11:56.54 | RST38h | hehe |
| 11:57.05 | lcuk | if wolfram was so good, it would recognise i asked a question and automatically mail me the results |
| 11:57.32 | lcuk | and a nice cucumber sandwich |
| 11:58.02 | RST38h | wonders why so many cellular automata people go mad |
| 11:58.35 | aquatix | Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input. |
| 11:58.44 | aquatix | eat it? |
| 11:58.45 | RST38h | Maybe that is how the Tentacled One makes a warning? =) |
| 11:59.19 | Stskeeps | RST38h: when it begins to talk to you |
| 12:00.47 | lcuk | ahhh, we have proof then that wolfran alpha did NOT eat a cucumber in the 19th century |
| 12:01.09 | RST38h | Wolfram himself definitely ate *some* cucumber |
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| 12:02.10 | lcuk | RST38h, do you have a rigerous proof of that |
| 12:02.14 | lcuk | or is it all hearsay |
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| 12:02.49 | RST38h | lcuk: A moment |
| 12:03.19 | RST38h | lcuk: http://www.wolframscience.com/thebook.html <== 1280 pages of exhaustive proof |
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| 12:16.09 | pupnik | http://mulliner.org/nokia770/ has nmap for os2008 |
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| 12:19.53 | thux | why nmap ain't in extras repo? |
| 12:21.30 | EdLin | I'm having a problem with my n810, when I try to boot it up, I get the white Nokia screen then it goes blank. The last thing I did with it was try to download maps for the GPS program. |
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| 12:23.51 | EdLin | I'm having a problem with my n810, when I try to boot it up, I get the white Nokia screen then it goes blank. The last thing I did with it was try to download maps for the GPS program. |
| 12:24.30 | RST38h | That is probably low battery |
| 12:24.35 | Stskeeps | out of space on internal jffs possibly, or low battery |
| 12:25.01 | EdLin | ok. I was just getting out my charger. If it's out of space in jffs, what do I do? |
| 12:25.22 | Stskeeps | reflash if you don't have usb networking telnet in a bootmenu |
| 12:25.48 | EdLin | Stskeeps: how do I do that? |
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| 12:26.40 | EdLin | nm, it seems to have been the battery. |
| 12:26.41 | Stskeeps | if you enabled telnet in bootmenu, you can telnet in over USB and remove stuff to get more space |
| 12:26.44 | Stskeeps | k |
| 12:26.59 | EdLin | where is boot menu? |
| 12:27.15 | Stskeeps | you only have one if you installed one :P |
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| 12:36.28 | plastun | how to get path for default directories such as .images, .documents? |
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| 12:41.50 | RST38h | http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/The_fastest_gun_in_the_west.php |
| 12:41.54 | RST38h | Check this out =) |
| 12:43.03 | RST38h | plastun: ~/MyDocs/.documents etc |
| 12:43.28 | plastun | is constantly for all maemo devices? |
| 12:43.48 | RST38h | So far. |
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| 12:44.04 | RST38h | plastun: http://wiki.maemo.org/MyDocs_folder' |
| 12:44.22 | plastun | thnks |
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| 12:45.39 | _mo | hi @all |
| 12:46.01 | RST38h | Ah the glory shots! |
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| 12:47.10 | RST38h | "...the brand new Nokia N97 achieves only a modest rating, slowest of all keyboarded PDAs I've ever used, proving only marginally quicker than the virtual keyboard of its much cheaper sister device, the 5800 XpressMusic..." |
| 12:47.27 | RST38h | So now we know what to expect from N900... |
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| 12:49.16 | Noma | N97 was just as quick as for example my E71 when I tried it |
| 12:49.28 | Noma | I didn't notice any slowness |
| 12:49.50 | Stskeeps | RST38h: without knowing if the kbd is anything like n900, it was delicious and nice to write on. |
| 12:49.50 | RST38h | Well, E71 keyboard is nothing to be proud about |
| 12:49.56 | RST38h | It is much smaller too |
| 12:50.16 | RST38h | Sts: I can only test n810 and it is pure trouble |
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| 12:50.42 | Stskeeps | RST38h: n810 kbd is shite |
| 12:50.42 | pupnik | N810 seems pretty good but i have no comparison |
| 12:50.43 | Stskeeps | i want a n900 just for the keyboard, honestly |
| 12:50.43 | RST38h | Sts: And you are saying N97 is better? |
| 12:50.50 | pupnik | rounded buttons would mean less typos |
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| 12:50.52 | RST38h | Would be nice if it were true... |
| 12:51.13 | RST38h | Well, E70 smokes 'em all, even without rounded buttons |
| 12:51.24 | RST38h | In fact, the results show it |
| 12:51.29 | X-Fade | The device we played with had nice pronounced (round bumps) keys. |
| 12:51.31 | pupnik | but take vertical space, not available in narrow slider design |
| 12:51.36 | pupnik | hmm |
| 12:51.49 | X-Fade | And didn't need much pressure to type, unlike the n810 ;) |
| 12:52.33 | Jaffa | X-Fade: That could just be because it'd been well used ;-) |
| 12:52.48 | Stskeeps | right, seems like i'll be presenting on DebConf9 unofficial track |
| 12:52.52 | X-Fade | Jaffa: Nah, they were all like that. |
| 12:52.55 | aquatix | rather likes the qwerty on his sony ericsson m600i |
| 12:53.03 | aquatix | tiny, but about as fast (faster?) as then n810 |
| 12:53.09 | aquatix | *the |
| 12:54.39 | RST38h | X-Fade: So it is more like the glory shot of the 9210 here: http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/qwertytests/qwerty3.jpg ? |
| 12:55.16 | X-Fade | RST38h: No, they were round in the middle of the key. |
| 12:55.37 | RST38h | X-Fade: Square key with slight spherical cavity at the middle? |
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| 12:55.52 | X-Fade | Not cavity.. bump |
| 12:55.59 | RST38h | Oh ok |
| 12:56.13 | X-Fade | So you can feel them a lot easier too. |
| 12:56.23 | pupnik | odd, no blackberry or n810 tested |
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| 12:56.32 | RST38h | X-Fade: Was there space between keys? |
| 12:56.37 | pupnik | also test only run by one person - useless |
| 12:56.40 | chx | The reason N810 pwns everything -- screen resolution |
| 12:56.50 | X-Fade | RST38h: No. |
| 12:56.50 | chx | 800x480 oh yeah :) |
| 12:56.56 | RST38h | Screen resolution of 800x480 is now becoming standard |
| 12:57.01 | X-Fade | RST38h: You felt the spacing by the bumps. |
| 12:57.02 | RST38h | HTCs are now 800x480 |
| 12:57.03 | Noma | Touch Pro 2 and Xperia has just the same resolution as N810:) |
| 12:57.14 | pupnik | linux? |
| 12:57.15 | RST38h | X-Fade: ok...so, still no spacing but bumps are there |
| 12:57.20 | chx | yes. that'd be a problem. |
| 12:57.28 | chx | Touch Pro 2 is still not Linux is it? |
| 12:57.30 | RST38h | pupnik: No, WinMobile! |
| 12:57.33 | chx | neither is Xperia |
| 12:57.46 | pupnik | ok then |
| 12:57.48 | RST38h | pushes pupnik back into the tar pit with a pitchfork |
| 12:57.49 | chx | well, I dont want a device i need to reboot now and then |
| 12:57.55 | pupnik | hhaha |
| 12:58.11 | chx | I had a PDA with Windows Mobile, quite new, like WM6, it sucked balls |
| 12:58.35 | aquatix | yep, the hardware might be cool, the OS breaks the whole experience |
| 12:58.48 | pupnik | i think n810 is darn close to perfect tbh |
| 12:58.52 | RST38h | Manufacturers start recognizing it, seeing how at least a couple of them switched to S60 recently |
| 12:59.04 | chx | pupnik: it is. |
| 12:59.08 | aquatix | an n900 phone would be really, really interesting for me |
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| 12:59.41 | chx | well, if they add HSDPA ... maybe maybe HSUPA that'd be bliss |
| 13:00.00 | chx | the price of the N810 , by now, is very very enticing too |
| 13:00.26 | chx | the X1 is , what, 400EUR? |
| 13:00.32 | chx | the N810 is 200USD.... |
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| 13:01.57 | Stskeeps | Andrew-Work: happy birthday! :) |
| 13:02.17 | Andrew-Work | Thanks Stskeeps |
| 13:03.00 | Andrew-Work | my email box if full of auto happy birthday message from the hundreds of forums I belong to lol |
| 13:04.06 | aquatix | heh |
| 13:04.12 | aquatix | Andrew-Work: congrats :) |
| 13:04.30 | Andrew-Work | thanks |
| 13:04.44 | aquatix | gets random birthday spam from forums |
| 13:04.59 | aquatix | as i tend to fill in a random birth date :) |
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| 13:30.40 | jophish | when installing using an install file from maemo.org, does the application manager usually take a long time "preparing for installation" with the progress bar at half way |
| 13:32.48 | man_in_shack | that reminds me |
| 13:33.01 | man_in_shack | i gonna install a bunch of stuff |
| 13:33.04 | man_in_shack | cos stuff is awesome |
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| 13:35.09 | inz | tan stuff is awesomer |
| 13:35.44 | inz | you even get divisions by zero |
| 13:36.14 | man_in_shack | agreed |
| 13:36.28 | man_in_shack | tan-based asymptotes are awesomer |
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| 14:25.07 | leachim6 | hey |
| 14:25.31 | leachim6 | isn't there an app that automatically repartitions the memory card and moves the system to it |
| 14:25.35 | leachim6 | I don't remember the name of it |
| 14:25.38 | leachim6 | can someone remind me please? |
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| 14:26.50 | karatchov | hello guys |
| 14:27.05 | karatchov | plz, anyone here have esbox working on xp ? |
| 14:27.33 | karatchov | I'm trying to setup it on eclipse, but I get an error when I select esbox in the preference dialog |
| 14:27.40 | leachim6 | what is the name of the app that automatically moves everything and boots from the MMC... |
| 14:28.08 | leachim6 | PLEASE someone tell me the name |
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| 14:30.00 | leachim6 | I need it now please |
| 14:30.03 | leachim6 | not to be impatient... |
| 14:30.04 | leachim6 | sorry |
| 14:30.26 | GAN8001 | penguinbait has something |
| 14:30.34 | GAN8001 | I don't know what he calls it. |
| 14:30.54 | leachim6 | right awesome |
| 14:32.16 | leachim6 | install-tools |
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| 14:33.18 | karatchov | plz guys, anybody can tell me if esbox works ok in xp ? cause I'm having troubles with it right now |
| 14:33.21 | RST38h | hehe: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/10/lancashire_terror_school_film/ |
| 14:33.44 | RST38h | ESBox works on XP. |
| 14:33.58 | RST38h | But my guess is that Scratchbox does not :) |
| 14:34.31 | karatchov | I'm trying to use it with a virutal machine |
| 14:34.37 | karatchov | already downloaded it |
| 14:34.58 | karatchov | RST38h, any idea how should I install it ? |
| 14:35.06 | leachim6 | can I get install-tools to work on 770? |
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| 14:36.00 | RST38h | karatchov: You should start by installing Linux I guess |
| 14:36.05 | RST38h | Ah ok |
| 14:36.18 | RST38h | So you probably want to install it inside that virtual machine |
| 14:36.40 | leachim6 | can someone please help me get install-tools working on n770? |
| 14:36.42 | leachim6 | I had it working before |
| 14:36.45 | leachim6 | bt it's been a while |
| 14:37.08 | karatchov | actually, I read somewhere that I can install esbox and eclipse nativly in windows |
| 14:37.34 | karatchov | and use the virtual machine to compile & build |
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| 14:38.28 | RST38h | Dunno, any mention of Eclipse makes me throw up, sorry |
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| 14:39.29 | karatchov | ok, thanks anyway |
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| 14:41.18 | leachim6 | I found it by the way... |
| 14:41.24 | leachim6 | for anyone else who is interested |
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| 14:41.44 | leachim6 | penguinbait.com |
| 14:42.10 | nickp45 | can somebody help me with a tablet problem? |
| 14:43.02 | pupnik | depends |
| 14:43.11 | leachim6 | no we only ignore problems in here... |
| 14:44.40 | nickp45 | i'm using the latest version diablo and microb isn't letting use gmail or sign into anyother accounts |
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| 14:44.40 | nickp45 | i've got ssl enabled as well as java script but it doesn't seem to help |
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| 14:46.18 | nickp45 | tear worked fine for me but it doesn't support proxies which is a problem for me |
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| 14:51.48 | nickp45 | .. |
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| 14:55.08 | nickp45 | .. |
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| 14:55.38 | crashanddie_ | timeless_mbp: around mate? |
| 14:55.47 | timeless_mbp | sorry. I'm taking minutes |
| 14:56.11 | crashanddie_ | timeless_mbp: ping me if you're available |
| 14:56.17 | crashanddie_ | s/if/when/ |
| 14:56.49 | leachim6 | I can't install osso xterm on my os2006 |
| 14:56.55 | GAN800 | andre__, ping? |
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| 14:57.00 | leachim6 | I click on the .install file from maemo.org |
| 14:57.07 | leachim6 | and it keeps saying "Operation Failed" |
| 14:57.11 | timeless_mbp | yes yes. stop pinging me |
| 14:57.45 | leachim6 | so can you guys help? |
| 14:57.49 | andre__ | GAN800, pong |
| 14:58.03 | andre__ | leachim6, what exact url? |
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| 15:04.21 | leachim6 | hmm |
| 15:04.23 | leachim6 | how do I enable red pill mode on os2006 ? |
| 15:04.42 | Jaffa | Danger, Will Robinson! |
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| 15:04.58 | leachim6 | I know how to use it... |
| 15:04.59 | leachim6 | relax |
| 15:05.03 | nickp45 | are you using an n77p leachim6? |
| 15:05.08 | leachim6 | yeah |
| 15:05.13 | nickp45 | o ok |
| 15:05.16 | leachim6 | I tried adding a repo called matrix... |
| 15:05.18 | leachim6 | but no dice... |
| 15:05.40 | leachim6 | I remember before I got a dialog saying something like "CAUTION: Red Pill Mode Activated" |
| 15:05.42 | leachim6 | or something like that |
| 15:06.28 | leachim6 | nickp45, how do I do it? |
| 15:06.45 | nickp45 | know what? |
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| 15:07.08 | leachim6 | enable red pill mode |
| 15:07.10 | RST38h | leachim6: I think it is time for you to google a few things |
| 15:07.15 | leachim6 | ... |
| 15:07.17 | RST38h | Starting with the red pill mode |
| 15:07.18 | leachim6 | I did google it... |
| 15:07.23 | leachim6 | I tried what it said... |
| 15:07.25 | leachim6 | it didn't work... |
| 15:07.26 | aquatix | red pill is old |
| 15:07.31 | leachim6 | my OS is old... |
| 15:07.32 | RST38h | I mean, before you break something =) |
| 15:07.43 | aquatix | wasn't it deprecated too? |
| 15:07.51 | leachim6 | what? |
| 15:07.53 | leachim6 | OS2006? |
| 15:07.55 | leachim6 | or red pill |
| 15:07.56 | andre__ | enter "matrix" as URL, click "Cancel" |
| 15:08.01 | aquatix | red pill |
| 15:08.26 | aquatix | but as andre__ says :) |
| 15:08.43 | leachim6 | ohh |
| 15:08.45 | leachim6 | click cancel ok |
| 15:09.13 | leachim6 | thanks |
| 15:09.19 | leachim6 | I was clicking ok and it just added an invalid source |
| 15:09.38 | GAN800 | andre__, try rtcomm, XChat, or MicroB |
| 15:09.39 | aquatix | :) |
| 15:09.53 | andre__ | GAN800, comment on the report :) |
| 15:10.11 | leachim6 | I try to install osso-xterm from maemo-hackers repo and I get "Packages Missing: libice6, libsme6" |
| 15:10.14 | leachim6 | what's up with taht? |
| 15:10.23 | GAN800 | andre__, little pressed for time atm. ;) |
| 15:10.46 | andre__ | as if i'd remember all the numbers i see on one day :-P |
| 15:12.27 | leachim6 | got it -> http://talk.maemo.org/archive/index.php/t-7521.html |
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| 15:17.09 | nickp45 | i'm using the latest version diablo and microb isn't letting use gmail or sign into anyother accounts |
| 15:17.20 | nickp45 | any ideas? |
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| 15:22.14 | VDVsx | stupid question: what is the intended use of the 'chr' key in the n810 kb ? |
| 15:22.47 | X-Fade | VDVsx: Pop up the symbol menu? |
| 15:24.21 | VDVsx | X-Fade, lol, just learned a new thing, hehe |
| 15:25.33 | VDVsx | I was wondering because this key don't produce any known X event :) |
| 15:25.54 | leachim6 | where can I get gainroot.deb |
| 15:25.57 | leachim6 | I can't find it anywhere |
| 15:26.00 | leachim6 | YES I googled it... |
| 15:26.37 | VDVsx | ~root |
| 15:26.38 | infobot | methinks root is not a Good Thing to use when using IRC. Please use a different account. |
| 15:26.44 | VDVsx | lol |
| 15:26.45 | qwerty12 | VDVsx, the keycode produced is too high for X to understand. Xomap is hackzored to understand it, can't remember the bug # |
| 15:26.47 | qwerty12 | ~root-access |
| 15:26.48 | infobot | from memory, root-access is http://wiki.maemo.org/Root_access |
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| 15:29.50 | VDVsx | qwerty12, hum, don't know why I assigned this key to 'alt' in my app, strange, this remind me to never hack in a drunk state :P |
| 15:30.06 | qwerty12 | hehe |
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| 15:34.26 | fiferboy | lbt: I fixed a bug with scroll bar theming (for some reason it wasn't working any more with item views) |
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| 16:11.05 | Stskeeps | hm, any sane sw for maemo that'll upload your gps position? |
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| 16:13.32 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: NAFAIK - no use case for it: GPS drains battery too fast and is too unreliable. Maybe something from Plazes or GeoClue? |
| 16:14.27 | lcuk | why does gps drain battery, its a radio receive only |
| 16:14.59 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: oh, but i have a trick, only do it when i'm on DUN anyway |
| 16:15.01 | Stskeeps | => i'm outside |
| 16:16.10 | Stskeeps | lcuk: takes power to keep an antenna active |
| 16:17.30 | lcuk | wireless radios work without batteries |
| 16:17.50 | lcuk | my radio in my little headphones system uses a battery mainly to power the headphones themselves |
| 16:18.19 | Stskeeps | lcuk: depends on hz and gain i guess.. |
| 16:18.40 | lcuk | i honestly thought before i got gps gadgets that gps was mostly passive and really battery efficient :$ |
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| 16:18.44 | lcuk | lived under a rock |
| 16:19.20 | andre__ | dislikes mass-moving/tagging of bugs. now trigger more bugspam, andre! |
| 16:19.37 | qwerty12 | lcuk: the place mentioned in your hostname suggests that you still do :P |
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| 16:20.01 | lcuk | hahaha fu |
| 16:21.31 | timeless_mbp | andre__: what are you doing? |
| 16:22.24 | andre__ | timeless_mbp, moving *api* doc complaints to the corresponding packages and splitting that from dev platform docu |
| 16:22.46 | timeless_mbp | ok |
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| 16:26.50 | fiferboy | lbt: ping? |
| 16:38.28 | lbt | Hi fiferboy |
| 16:39.02 | fiferboy | Hi. I was just looking at what would need to be done to get webviews scrolling |
| 16:39.09 | fiferboy | It does not look fun or pretty |
| 16:39.50 | lbt | they're moving to webkit too IIRC |
| 16:39.57 | lbt | not paying huge attention |
| 16:42.03 | fiferboy | Well, it looks like QWebFrame would be the best place to implement, but everything is so abstracted to work with WebCore that things are a bit difficult |
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| 16:46.50 | ShadowJK | rst38h: doesnt n97 have same cpu as 5800, and aren't they more like n8x0 in terms of cpu power? |
| 16:52.36 | lbt | fiferboy: did my merged code all work for you? |
| 16:52.50 | VDVsx | ShadowJK, a bit more freq, but the same arm 11 (n97 and 5800) |
| 16:53.10 | fiferboy | lbt: Yep. The OvershootStabilise look good, although there is sometimes a little flicker at the very end |
| 16:53.30 | lbt | yes... |
| 16:53.50 | lbt | also setValue should be removable on overshoot |
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| 16:54.25 | fiferboy | I just wanted to make sure it would scroll all the way to the limit |
| 16:54.47 | GAN800 | ShadowJK, N97 is a bit faster than the N800, 5800 a bit slower. |
| 16:54.52 | fiferboy | ie, if you are scrolling to the top of a list and it goes from position 20 to position -1, it wouldn't stay at 20 when overshooting |
| 16:55.33 | fiferboy | But it should only need to do it once, when position != limit |
| 16:55.36 | lbt | no.... but I think the overshoot happens when you are out of val bound |
| 16:55.44 | VDVsx | GAN800, and the new iphone, any guess for the cpu ? |
| 16:56.01 | lbt | and setVal happens as last step |
| 16:56.10 | jophish | has anyone here ever had any trouble with the application manager? |
| 16:56.24 | fiferboy | Oh, that's right. setVal will happen before overshoot |
| 16:56.31 | lbt | yep |
| 16:56.50 | lbt | bbiab... |
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| 16:59.30 | ShadowJK | nickp45: open up an xterm, type: export http_proxy=http://your.proxy.here:portnumberhere/ |
| 16:59.47 | ShadowJK | nickp45: then type: tear |
| 16:59.57 | ShadowJK | worked for me last time I checked |
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| 17:01.57 | dneary | hi |
| 17:02.05 | dneary | I'm having a DNS issue in scratchbox |
| 17:02.14 | dneary | I found this: http://lists.scratchbox.org/pipermail/scratchbox-users/2007-March/000906.html |
| 17:02.26 | dneary | and so I tested whether wget could resolve - no |
| 17:02.50 | dneary | I checked /sb/etc/nsswitch.conf - looks fine |
| 17:03.29 | mgedmin | what about resolv.conf? |
| 17:03.37 | dneary | hosts: files dns all round |
| 17:03.54 | dneary | resolv.conf: nameserver 127.0.0.1 |
| 17:03.59 | dneary | No search lines |
| 17:04.18 | dneary | This is /etc/resolv.conf when in scratchbox |
| 17:04.29 | mgedmin | and /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf? |
| 17:04.50 | dneary | nameserver 212.27.40.241 |
| 17:04.50 | dneary | nameserver 212.27.40.240 |
| 17:05.00 | mgedmin | which is right? |
| 17:05.03 | dneary | (generated by NetworkManager) |
| 17:05.07 | jophish | chinook repositories should work with diablo? |
| 17:05.21 | dneary | Well, I'd kind o' like 192.168.1.1 to be used |
| 17:05.28 | *** part/#maemo crashanddie_ (i=c336e713@SecuraBit/listener/crashanddie) |
| 17:05.28 | dneary | Which is the local nameserver |
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| 17:06.03 | dneary | Weird |
| 17:06.07 | mgedmin | scratchbox likes to make a copy of your system /etc/resolv.conf, which tends to stop working when you move to a different network |
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| 17:06.22 | dneary | Added "nameserver 192.168.1.1" to the top of /sb/etc/resolv.conf, works now |
| 17:06.40 | dneary | mgedmin: Any way to force reinitialisation? |
| 17:06.52 | dneary | I have already quit & restarted scratchbox several times |
| 17:07.04 | mgedmin | vi /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf :) |
| 17:07.31 | mgedmin | IIRC when I got bored I installed dnsmasq on my host system and modified both resolv.conf's inside scratchbox to use 127.0.0.1 |
| 17:07.49 | lcuk | ahhh mgedmin perfect solution, startup vi, so then you get so frustrated trying to close vi you pop the battery |
| 17:07.53 | lcuk | likes your logic |
| 17:08.36 | mgedmin | hey, vi isn't that bad |
| 17:08.49 | mgedmin | when I first ran into turbo pascal 3.0 I had to reboot because I couldn't find the editor exit key |
| 17:08.57 | lcuk | heh |
| 17:08.59 | mgedmin | later I read in a magazine that it was ctrl+k, ctrl+e |
| 17:09.11 | GAN800 | VDVsx, clearly Cortex, possibly custom? |
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| 17:09.45 | lcuk | <koen> "Although unannounced, the iPhone 3GS uses (again) a Samsung SoC but this time instead of the ARM11 + MBX-Lite combo its got a Cortex A8 and PowerVR SGX; just like the Pre." |
| 17:09.51 | lcuk | from #bealge earlier |
| 17:09.56 | lcuk | #beagle even |
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| 17:10.50 | GAN800 | Nokia falls behind again . . . sigh |
| 17:11.00 | GAN800 | One giant me too. |
| 17:11.24 | lcuk | is cortex next gen after the 3430? |
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| 17:12.09 | wazd_ | A little more time for waiting and Nokia will be One giant "whatever" :) |
| 17:12.15 | GAN800 | OMAP3430 is Cortex A8, PowerVR SGX, and C64x DSP. |
| 17:12.34 | lcuk | so why is it behind then? |
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| 17:12.57 | GAN800 | Because it's coming after everybody else's offerings. |
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| 17:13.43 | lcuk | if thats the case, arent we about 18months behind the archos |
| 17:13.53 | lcuk | and so everyone is following |
| 17:14.07 | GAN800 | Direct competitors. |
| 17:15.05 | lcuk | but those are phones |
| 17:15.06 | wazd_ | can anybody give me the link to that "1000 items to scroll" post? |
| 17:15.26 | wazd_ | from Quim |
| 17:15.35 | lcuk | wazd_, i can probaably give oyu a link to where i scroll 25000 items in the graffiti view |
| 17:15.38 | lcuk | ahh |
| 17:15.50 | wazd_ | lcuk: yea-yea :D |
| 17:15.58 | GAN800 | So is Rover. |
| 17:16.03 | qwerty12 | wazd_: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=295211&postcount=29 |
| 17:16.17 | wazd_ | qwerty12: oh, thx :) |
| 17:16.43 | lcuk | GAN800, mm? i know we have data but where is the info about full phone stuff? |
| 17:17.03 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, have you talked to the Touchbook? |
| 17:17.04 | wazd_ | qwerty12: I have a complain! Screen keyboard does not pop up when I focus on the input fieald in "What should I do next" window in xChat |
| 17:17.26 | GAN800 | Why else would it be 3.5"? |
| 17:17.35 | wazd_ | it's like "Join the channel or leave me alone" |
| 17:17.56 | Stskeeps | GAN800: no, feel free to establish a contact though |
| 17:18.01 | GAN800 | If it's 3.5" and not a phone I'm finding another platform. |
| 17:18.05 | qwerty12 | wazd_: I know, it sucks, I can't figure it out. :( On my N800, I choose the do nothing option and enter "/join #channel"in the normal chatting area |
| 17:18.31 | wazd_ | qwerty12: yep, thats what I do :) |
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| 17:18.47 | wazd_ | qwerty12: anyway, just to let you know :) |
| 17:18.53 | qwerty12 | :) |
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| 17:19.57 | wazd_ | qwerty12: fix it or die!11 :D |
| 17:20.03 | lcuk | :D gan, i can prolly find 100 posts from you deriding the possibility of a combined all in one device :D |
| 17:20.23 | Jaffa | Yeah, but got to go with the best device available |
| 17:20.24 | qwerty12 | wazd_: It was nice knowin..eek.. |
| 17:20.26 | lcuk | (me doesnt object either way, i just want my data at home) |
| 17:20.34 | GAN800 | lcuk, based on the available info at the time. |
| 17:21.43 | lcuk | nods |
| 17:21.59 | lcuk | i cant wait for nokia to announce the new "Pocketable" a3 tablet :D |
| 17:22.15 | lcuk | 400dpi OLED multicore |
| 17:22.36 | lcuk | daydreams |
| 17:22.47 | wazd_ | coffee-machine... |
| 17:23.35 | lcuk | yeah, need more of it |
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| 17:26.39 | ShadowJK | gps used to require more computational power than what PCs could offer :) |
| 17:26.57 | thiagoss | is there something wrong with garage repositories? |
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| 17:27.28 | lcuk | ~seen sopi |
| 17:27.32 | infobot | lcuk: i haven't seen 'sopi' |
| 17:27.32 | ShadowJK | so it's no wonder if modern gps receivers consume some power to track multiple satellites simultaneously and calculate a fix every second... |
| 17:28.01 | Jaffa | Anyone know if Eclipse has ever been run *on ARM* (e.g. on a Beagleboard?) |
| 17:28.03 | lcuk | ShadowJK, ahhh, finally a real reason |
| 17:29.57 | slonopotamus | Jaffa, no reasons why it shouldn't |
| 17:30.31 | Jaffa | slonopotamus: I've not seen an ARM build of it, wondered if anyone had tried |
| 17:30.52 | lcuk | eclipse is java tho isnt it? |
| 17:30.57 | slonopotamus | yes |
| 17:30.58 | lcuk | nearly said javascript |
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| 17:31.34 | slonopotamus | Jaffa, build it yourself, lazy binary user :P |
| 17:32.47 | Jaffa | slonopotamus: I imagine the Eclipse build process is complex and fiull of twisty turny passages; also, I have no ARM powerful enough for the task (yet) |
| 17:33.32 | lcuk | plenty are powerful, its just you have imposed a timelimit |
| 17:33.37 | slonopotamus | Jaffa, `emerge eclipse-sdk` :P what can be simpler? |
| 17:33.52 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: haha, no |
| 17:34.21 | wazd_ | ok, is there a screenshot with maemo5 file choser? |
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| 17:34.32 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: I can't imagine that working |
| 17:34.39 | slonopotamus | luke-jr, why? |
| 17:34.48 | Luke-Jr | it's unreliable enough on desktop Gentoo |
| 17:34.56 | Luke-Jr | let alone with the memory constraints of a handheld |
| 17:35.01 | slonopotamus | what 'it'? |
| 17:35.11 | Luke-Jr | eclipse-sdk ebuilds |
| 17:35.13 | Jaffa | wazd_: Only ones I know of are screenshots from the SDK |
| 17:35.25 | Razu | Hmm... any idea why gpe summary package doesn't seem to be available? |
| 17:35.25 | slonopotamus | noone said handheld. Jaffa said arm. |
| 17:35.32 | wazd_ | Jaffa: do you have one near?) |
| 17:35.38 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: :þ |
| 17:35.42 | Jaffa | wazd_: afraid not |
| 17:35.54 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: btw, do you have distfiles still? |
| 17:35.55 | slonopotamus | doesn't ubuntu have it prebuilt? |
| 17:36.01 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: we're needing pointercal and omapfb |
| 17:36.07 | slonopotamus | luke-jr, which? |
| 17:36.17 | Jaffa | slonopotamus: No, only x86_674 and x86 builds |
| 17:36.22 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: Mer pulled their source repo |
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| 17:37.18 | slonopotamus | argh |
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| 17:37.31 | slonopotamus | i knew i shouldn't trust their repo |
| 17:37.40 | Stskeeps | what, pulled? no |
| 17:37.42 | Stskeeps | the PSU died |
| 17:38.34 | slonopotamus | psu - ? |
| 17:38.41 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: no, it's obviously a Nokia conspiracy to get more people to upgrade to Maemo 5 devices |
| 17:38.50 | ShadowJK | let's complain to the manufacturer, it's a conspiracy! |
| 17:38.58 | ShadowJK | jinx... |
| 17:39.45 | ShadowJK | it's stupid nobody competent is making sensibly-sized PSUs |
| 17:40.17 | jophish | gar, for some bizarre reason, nu n810 is resolving catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com as 1.0.0.0, my other computer resolves it properly |
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| 17:40.21 | jophish | using the same dns |
| 17:40.26 | jophish | no proxy involved |
| 17:40.45 | Luke-Jr | Stskeeps: you plan to fix it? :þ |
| 17:41.07 | Stskeeps | the psu? yes, when i have my exam over |
| 17:41.13 | slonopotamus | luke-jr, cleaned them up :( |
| 17:41.13 | Stskeeps | but it might not stay forever, FYI |
| 17:41.25 | slonopotamus | Stskeeps, still have nokia-tablets-pointercal_1.1.tar.gz ? |
| 17:41.30 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: â |
| 17:41.36 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: I asked him that a while ago |
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| 17:42.02 | Stskeeps | slonopotamus: if you get a login for build.opensuse.org it will be easily accessible for you :) |
| 17:42.11 | Stskeeps | slonopotamus: we're working on it exporting the sources automatically |
| 17:42.16 | slonopotamus | oh crap. okay |
| 17:43.09 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: as you may have noticed, I have a distfiles mirror now if you can get the files ⺠|
| 17:43.40 | Luke-Jr | I have a binary package dir too, but I don't have the infrastructure to ensure I comply with the GPL :< |
| 17:44.05 | Luke-Jr | so I can't make it public |
| 17:44.05 | slonopotamus | luke-jr, yep. sadly, my hosting plan isn't suitable for mirrors |
| 17:44.13 | slonopotamus | crap |
| 17:44.19 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: hosting plan? I've got it on my home cable connection |
| 17:45.08 | slonopotamus | well. we have a bit different worlds :) public ip (and, worse, static) are rare here |
| 17:46.07 | slonopotamus | http://www.bugmenot.com/view/build.opensuse.org |
| 17:46.09 | slonopotamus | hehe |
| 17:46.32 | Stskeeps | now luke doesn't have any excuse.. |
| 17:46.33 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 17:46.48 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: lol |
| 17:46.58 | slonopotamus | Stskeeps, okaaay, logged in :) |
| 17:47.04 | Luke-Jr | I didn't even THINK of that |
| 17:47.15 | slonopotamus | luke-jr, bugmenot rocks :) |
| 17:48.31 | Stskeeps | RST38h: re 7. Modify XTerm with the latest patches, including full-screen overlay keyboard. .. didn't you sign up for making this happen when quim came and asked? |
| 17:49.55 | slonopotamus | ah, i remembered. b.o.o is unusable from microb. damn security alerts on _each_ page! can't they jjust fix their site? |
| 17:50.05 | Luke-Jr | boo? |
| 17:51.04 | slonopotamus | ? |
| 17:51.34 | slonopotamus | luke-jr, https://build.opensuse.org/main/search_result?search_text=nokia-tablets-pointercal&x=0&y=0 |
| 17:51.52 | Luke-Jr | yes, I'm like 5 steps ahead of you :þ |
| 17:52.03 | Luke-Jr | it's on my mirror already XD |
| 17:52.03 | slonopotamus | :P |
| 17:52.20 | slonopotamus | that's because you have kb |
| 17:52.32 | Luke-Jr | http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/gentoo-n8x0/distfiles/ |
| 17:53.18 | slonopotamus | luke-jr, so, small policy - never ever use mer repos? :) |
| 17:53.43 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: I left Mer repos in the ebuilds |
| 17:53.45 | Luke-Jr | just added my mirror |
| 17:53.47 | Luke-Jr | for failover |
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| 17:54.35 | slonopotamus | luke-jr, btw. kernel, again. vanilla or omap? |
| 17:54.44 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: omap |
| 17:55.12 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: Stskeeps is going to get some Nokia employee drunk enough to give us the code. |
| 17:55.19 | slonopotamus | luke-jr, what is present there but not in vanilla (and important for us)? |
| 17:55.23 | slonopotamus | what code? |
| 17:55.27 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: no idea, I just haven't tried vanilla |
| 17:55.31 | Luke-Jr | the GPS code |
| 17:55.47 | slonopotamus | doesn't have gps |
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| 17:56.11 | slonopotamus | but you should be happy :) |
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| 17:59.11 | Luke-Jr | slonopotamus: depends on how long he takes |
| 17:59.22 | lopz | hola |
| 17:59.55 | slonopotamus | luke-jr, how's your libcal, btw? |
| 18:00.14 | Luke-Jr | dunno, <.< |
| 18:00.19 | slonopotamus | uh? |
| 18:00.24 | Luke-Jr | not done |
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| 18:06.09 | slonopotamus | err |
| 18:06.23 | slonopotamus | # git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git |
| 18:06.34 | slonopotamus | fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
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| 18:13.00 | thopiekar | X-Fade, other maemo.org admins: PING |
| 18:13.10 | Stskeeps | quick, hide! |
| 18:13.12 | Stskeeps | ;) |
| 18:13.37 | thopiekar | hehe |
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| 18:14.14 | thopiekar | hi VDVsx |
| 18:16.17 | RST38h | moo all |
| 18:16.27 | thopiekar | moin RST38h |
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| 18:29.02 | wazd_ | RST38h: heya |
| 18:29.28 | wazd_ | RST38h: I'm doing the concept of ideal file-chooser right now :) |
| 18:29.52 | inz | Objectivity is a virtue |
| 18:30.16 | Stskeeps | wazd_: it's called Norton Commander. |
| 18:30.41 | wazd_ | Stskeeps: not manager, but chooser :) |
| 18:31.02 | wazd_ | Stskeeps: and I'm pretty fine with vista explorer btw :) |
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| 18:47.39 | Stskeeps | gah |
| 18:47.43 | Stskeeps | wiki.maemo.org seems down |
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| 18:50.07 | lbt | yep... just noticed that |
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| 19:13.12 | jophish | thw whole maemo.org seems down |
| 19:13.25 | Stskeeps | not talk :P |
| 19:13.58 | jophish | ah |
| 19:14.02 | jophish | very sharp |
| 19:14.12 | jophish | glad it's not just me |
| 19:17.47 | lcuk | ~seen sopi |
| 19:17.52 | infobot | lcuk: i haven't seen 'sopi' |
| 19:17.56 | lcuk | damn still not here |
| 19:18.12 | Proteous | THE WORLD IS ENDING |
| 19:18.27 | Proteous | READY YOURSELF! |
| 19:18.35 | qwerty12_N810 | Still not got your phone? :P |
| 19:18.50 | Stskeeps | Proteous: should i be worried i was listening after rumbling sound when you said that? |
| 19:18.53 | Stskeeps | :P |
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| 19:20.26 | jophish | under maemo, is it possible to relocate /home (to the internal card), without installing the bootloader |
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| 19:25.21 | Proteous | Damnit Nokia, ship me my phone plz |
| 19:25.32 | Proteous | they did take the monies out of my account |
| 19:25.42 | Proteous | but no ship confirmation yet |
| 19:27.39 | Proteous | still checking every 30 seconds... |
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| 19:28.42 | jophish | hmm, is there an easy way to take away the links to skype and other application links in the menu, I cant seem to delete them, |
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| 19:29.32 | jeremiah | seen X-Fade |
| 19:29.45 | lbt | jophish: install Mer.... ;) |
| 19:29.55 | wazd_ | looks like whole maemo.org gone down |
| 19:29.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | "panels"->status bar? |
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| 19:30.05 | lbt | I never got round to that ... irritates me still |
| 19:30.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | jophish, ^^^ |
| 19:30.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | err I mean task navigator -> applications has an "organize" button |
| 19:30.50 | jophish | yes |
| 19:30.59 | jophish | but I can't delete the links |
| 19:31.03 | lcuk | jeremiah, i think hes upto his armpits in full blown maemo collapse |
| 19:31.10 | jophish | mer seems like an option |
| 19:31.11 | lcuk | speaking of which, why arent you on a plane there now lol |
| 19:31.44 | lbt | jophish: apparently installing and uninstalling does it... |
| 19:31.54 | jeremiah | lcuk: I'm a debian guy, our servers don't crash. :P |
| 19:31.57 | jophish | ah |
| 19:32.02 | jophish | what about the games? |
| 19:32.17 | jeremiah | lcuk: When did maemo.org implode? |
| 19:32.18 | lbt | jeremiah: no, they just get opened to all comers... ;) |
| 19:32.28 | lbt | leaves rapidly |
| 19:32.34 | jeremiah | lbt: I don't think so |
| 19:32.40 | lcuk | heh i dunno |
| 19:32.49 | jeremiah | hits lbt on the head with a moldy rind of bacon. |
| 19:32.51 | lbt | debian/rules |
| 19:32.51 | lcuk | but people have been moaning about random bits half of the day |
| 19:32.59 | lcuk | bacon/rules |
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| 19:33.12 | lbt | my cat wants food... |
| 19:33.14 | jeremiah | heh |
| 19:33.19 | lbt | pass me the bacon |
| 19:33.23 | jeremiah | lbt: Funny, I just gave my cat some food. |
| 19:33.24 | jophish | jeremiah, I believe that maemo.org is a debian server |
| 19:33.33 | lbt | I think she heard you! |
| 19:33.33 | jeremiah | jophish: Well, kinda. :P |
| 19:33.37 | lcuk | then its downstream isp |
| 19:33.42 | lbt | she hears biscuits at 2000m |
| 19:33.51 | jeremiah | It is a virtual machine sitting in a cluster of servers |
| 19:33.53 | lbt | bbiab |
| 19:34.03 | jophish | ah |
| 19:34.04 | lcuk | jeremiah, i decided, debian/ isnt as evil as autotools |
| 19:34.09 | jeremiah | Then it gets pushed out into the world with a CDN (akamai) |
| 19:34.23 | jeremiah | lcuk: autotools is much, much worse. |
| 19:34.27 | lcuk | yes |
| 19:34.37 | jeremiah | debian/ is pretty easy after a bit. |
| 19:34.44 | jeremiah | No black magic. |
| 19:34.51 | jeremiah | Just niggling little details. |
| 19:35.00 | lcuk | i have nearly got package working :$ but i have lost my on device dev kit, my scratchbox and I have grey hair now |
| 19:35.11 | lcuk | it is in fremantle autobuilder! |
| 19:35.21 | lcuk | but it doesnt show in app list apparantly :S |
| 19:35.22 | suihkulokki | since people are talking about what distro maemo.org is running, I take it I'm not the only one seeing it as down? ;) |
| 19:36.22 | Stskeeps | the main 770 WSOD'ed |
| 19:36.25 | jeremiah | suihkulokki: No - apparently everyone knows but us. |
| 19:37.16 | lbt | cats fed |
| 19:37.22 | lbt | is so under the paw |
| 19:37.27 | lcuk | ...to the lions |
| 19:37.38 | lbt | nah, she's eating too |
| 19:37.54 | lcuk | wicked :D |
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| 19:39.51 | fiferboy | lbt: I am building libQtWebKit.so with preliminary scrolling attempts |
| 19:40.08 | lbt | OK |
| 19:40.09 | Proteous | suihkulokki: maemo.org was running on maemo2 on a nokia 770 |
| 19:40.16 | fiferboy | It compiled the files I changed (after typo correction) but it will probably screw up totally. |
| 19:40.40 | lbt | just event tracking? |
| 19:40.52 | lbt | using my fingerscroller with child monitor? |
| 19:41.32 | fiferboy | Yes, using your QASA code, modified to fit into QWebFrame (since scrollbars are accessed in a totally different way) |
| 19:41.45 | lbt | 'k |
| 19:42.12 | fiferboy | I cut out the child monitor for now to see if it even thinks about working, and because you apparently cannot just access qApp from within QWebFrame |
| 19:42.26 | lbt | ? |
| 19:42.28 | lbt | spooky |
| 19:42.50 | fiferboy | I think it is because the whole webkit part is a module and not in the core of Qt |
| 19:43.22 | fiferboy | It is under src/3rdparty/webkit/ |
| 19:44.14 | lbt | you sure you didn't just not #include <qApp> ? |
| 19:44.32 | fiferboy | That could be it |
| 19:44.44 | lbt | #include "qapplication.h" |
| 19:44.53 | lbt | is in qasa.cpp ;) |
| 19:45.38 | lbt | it is possibly bad form though |
| 19:45.46 | fiferboy | That would likely fix it. There is very little from the Qt core included in QWebFrame, I think for a reason |
| 19:46.09 | lbt | http://doc.trolltech.com/4.5/qwebframe.html says it's a QObject... |
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| 19:46.36 | lbt | but I guess no widget/gui toolkit stuff |
| 19:46.37 | parigaudi | hi |
| 19:46.56 | lbt | hi parigaudi |
| 19:47.09 | lcuk | lbt, bouncy overshooting sides |
| 19:47.20 | lcuk | how can you select text with side overshooting? |
| 19:47.27 | parigaudi | i can't get the camera example to build on diablo. |
| 19:47.33 | lcuk | ie if you grab it just moves entire thing |
| 19:47.37 | fiferboy | QtCore/qobject.h, QtCore/qurl.h, QtCore/qvariant.h, QtGui/qicon.h |
| 19:47.41 | lbt | lcuk: we have magic |
| 19:47.43 | JamieBen1ett | is maemo.org down? |
| 19:47.46 | fiferboy | Those are the only core/gui includes I can see |
| 19:47.47 | Stskeeps | yes, it is |
| 19:47.54 | parigaudi | pkgconfig doesn't find a .pc for gstreamer-interfaces-0.10 |
| 19:47.54 | JamieBen1ett | oh dear |
| 19:48.13 | Stskeeps | pokes X-Fade |
| 19:48.16 | parigaudi | how can i access the camera then? |
| 19:48.22 | lcuk | parigaudi, "find / -name gstreamer" and see if its there |
| 19:48.23 | lbt | fiferboy: I've not even looked at the source yet |
| 19:48.35 | lcuk | if it is add the path to your PKG CONFIG path (whatever it is) |
| 19:48.54 | fiferboy | It takes a LONG time to build webkit |
| 19:49.08 | lbt | heh yes |
| 19:49.12 | lbt | qemu? |
| 19:49.16 | lbt | or native? |
| 19:49.37 | fiferboy | Scratchbox in a virtualbox session |
| 19:49.53 | lbt | Oh yes, |
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| 19:50.29 | JamieBennett | reinstalls scratchbox to see if all the hassle is due to a b0rked install |
| 19:50.46 | lbt | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ |
| 19:52.08 | JamieBennett | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/maemo.org |
| 19:52.29 | lbt | yep ... just found that page... quite useful eh? |
| 19:52.39 | JamieBennett | yep |
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| 19:54.36 | qkall | hi i'm having a real problem getting my n810 into flash mode... |
| 19:54.52 | qkall | doing as instructed (i think) and alas nothing it just boots normally... |
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| 19:55.49 | wazd_ | power off - plug in usb - hold "home" - power on - continue to hold "home |
| 19:56.08 | qkall | even when it boots normally? |
| 19:56.15 | wazd_ | yep |
| 19:56.37 | qkall | ok i just assumed after it boots normally it didn't work... will continue to hold... |
| 19:57.25 | lcuk | qkall, if the usb icon isnt on at first and it starts to boot normally i think you are right and you have missed your window |
| 19:57.31 | lcuk | does the usb icon come on at all |
| 19:58.08 | lcuk | and if i were you i would try different key (the other one) just to be sure you arent going mad |
| 19:58.13 | qkall | no i hold it the entire time... nada... |
| 19:58.40 | lcuk | is the cable plugged in at the other end... and is it into computer direct or usb hub |
| 19:58.41 | qkall | and it boots up to the normal sceen... i'm sure i'm doing something wrong.. but i can't see to figure it out... |
| 19:58.59 | qkall | ..hub... didn't think about that.. i'll put it in directly.. |
| 20:00.25 | qkall | nice!~ |
| 20:00.35 | JamieBennett | qkall Yep could be a power over USB issue |
| 20:00.41 | qkall | lcuk: thanks so much... i don't think i would of though of suck a simple fix |
| 20:00.43 | qkall | lol |
| 20:00.52 | JamieBennett | :) |
| 20:00.58 | lcuk | dont worry, ive spent longer with a duff n800 |
| 20:01.21 | qkall | haha and i just find out that my n810 came with diablo... |
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| 20:01.33 | qkall | i could of sworn i had to update it to diablo... |
| 20:01.45 | qkall | well learn new crap everyday... |
| 20:01.47 | lcuk | i wonder if the new devices will come with music |
| 20:02.17 | qkall | i personally have no interest in the n900 simply because verizon has crappy signal where i live... |
| 20:03.43 | lcuk | feh i will just have whatever is in front of me at the time, 8x0 is good enough to run stuff i want, so its a nice base :) |
| 20:03.50 | mavhc | you can't use someone else? |
| 20:04.02 | lcuk | the idea of the always on data though is a big draw to 900 |
| 20:04.22 | mavhc | the idea of paying for data is a big undraw |
| 20:04.58 | qkall | agreed^ |
| 20:05.10 | lcuk | depends on whether you value your data :) |
| 20:05.22 | lcuk | i nearly lost an entire weekend coming back from copenhagen last week |
| 20:05.30 | qkall | i got all excided to find out of a new device when i realized i could finally afford one (yay jobs) |
| 20:05.31 | lcuk | all my data was locked in a corrupt memory card |
| 20:05.52 | qkall | then found out its with verizon phone stuff... |
| 20:06.07 | mavhc | I value 2TB/$40, that's what my cable internet costs |
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| 20:06.23 | avraam | hi |
| 20:06.46 | avraam | is there anyway to make Tear the default browser on the n810? |
| 20:07.01 | Stskeeps | i wish |
| 20:07.21 | mavhc | that makes mobile data about 360 times more expensive than cable |
| 20:07.22 | lcuk | cant you just kill/maim browserd |
| 20:07.27 | lcuk | and add a new browser |
| 20:07.29 | qkall | kind of a side note... i like the change in the linux community.. when i first started to get into it... it was full of elitist and snobs.. but now.. everyone is so friendly... generally anyway... |
| 20:07.30 | lcuk | which mimics calls |
| 20:10.18 | ShadowJK | lcuk: do you mean "comes with music", the as-much-DRMd-music-you-want scheme? |
| 20:10.32 | lcuk | yeah :) |
| 20:10.38 | parigaudi | find found lots of gstreamer stuff but nothing gstreamer-interfaces |
| 20:10.52 | Macer | blah |
| 20:10.54 | lcuk | parigaudi, apt-cache search gstreamer |
| 20:10.59 | Macer | waiting for my gf at a park |
| 20:11.05 | lcuk | and see which -dev lib you are missing |
| 20:11.05 | wazd_ | http://tabletui.wordpress.com/2009/06/10/fremantle-ui-file-chooser/ |
| 20:11.10 | ShadowJK | My N810 came with 3 songs and 2 music videos, I guess that doesn't count :) |
| 20:11.18 | wazd_ | Are first and last images OK for you? |
| 20:12.05 | Stskeeps | wazd_: you're lacking a search bar there |
| 20:12.19 | lcuk | ffs wazd_ its a file selector - why not just do what liqbase does and INSTANTLY search when you press a key |
| 20:12.27 | lcuk | the intuitive expected thing |
| 20:12.27 | Stskeeps | maybe in the chooser |
| 20:12.40 | wazd_ | what bout images first?) |
| 20:13.14 | wazd_ | ok, they are there |
| 20:13.23 | wazd_ | wierd bug with FF |
| 20:14.14 | lcuk | a user wouldnt click the scrollbar and expect to search |
| 20:14.45 | wazd_ | lcuk: he would expect to scroll, right :) |
| 20:15.09 | lcuk | yeah, so let him scroll |
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| 20:16.25 | wazd_ | lcuk: well, in such small window items will pass by too fast. It's the same scrolling but made not for scrolling act but for finding something |
| 20:16.41 | lcuk | if the ui changes drastically like that it makes it harder to see, he has already focused on the numbers to realise he is nowhere near where he wants to be |
| 20:17.13 | lcuk | finding is as simple as reducing the list when you type |
| 20:17.37 | wazd_ | lcuk: typing sucks :) I don't want to pull out the keyboard :) |
| 20:18.47 | parigaudi | the only two -dev packages that show up there are libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev and libgstreamer0.10-dev , both of which are already installed at the newest version |
| 20:19.23 | lcuk | wazd_, if typing sucks, none of us would be here, theres a reason we have keyboards on our devices now ;) |
| 20:19.59 | wazd_ | lcuk: and anyway, if I'll want to find something starting with "P", I really don't want "porn" to show off in this list |
| 20:20.16 | fiferboy | lbt: Looks like my compile isn't going to finish anytime soon |
| 20:20.27 | lcuk | wazd_, you are already going to the P bits lol |
| 20:20.28 | fiferboy | I'll let you know how it went tomorrow, but I am not holding out any great hope |
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| 20:21.26 | lbt | np... let me know |
| 20:22.00 | fiferboy | Will do |
| 20:22.01 | lcuk | wazd_, the only reason why i am talking like this is because its in the liqbase-playground now and it works so nicely :$ |
| 20:22.33 | lcuk | its a really efficient way to sort through lots of data |
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| 20:24.15 | wazd_ | lcuk: let's imagine you don't know what's the name of the file |
| 20:24.24 | lcuk | then you just scroll down |
| 20:24.40 | wazd_ | lcuk: it's #542 in the list :) |
| 20:25.07 | lcuk | i guarantee that your mechism wont work in real life - theres very few folders all neatly numbered, what kind of logic would you use to determine the changing part |
| 20:25.07 | lcuk | then type 542 |
| 20:25.54 | wazd_ | lcuk: In fact it works. Silgtly less advanced but works |
| 20:26.04 | lcuk | the human eye can keep up with a scrolling screen and if they are already looking for certain details it can be stopped easily |
| 20:26.07 | wazd_ | lcuk: and not in liqbase :D |
| 20:26.12 | lcuk | thats the same in RL with flipping through book pages |
| 20:27.25 | lcuk | wazd_ :) the algo to detect changing part of a set of files will be flying around everywhere in a normal filesystem |
| 20:27.45 | mavhc | I don't get the last paragraph |
| 20:28.11 | wazd_ | ah\ |
| 20:28.13 | wazd_ | crap |
| 20:28.18 | wazd_ | button = letter |
| 20:28.46 | wazd_ | wonders how to edit this without "save" button :) |
| 20:29.34 | wazd_ | oh! |
| 20:29.48 | wazd_ | Wordpress has fixed my blog! |
| 20:30.17 | aquatix | ah? |
| 20:31.06 | wazd_ | Well, there is a block with "publish/update" buttons in the editing panel. For almost a year it was gone in my blog :) |
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| 20:32.38 | lcuk | wazd_, what would be nice is speed based scaling - so as you scroll down quickly it pans out slightly to let you see more overall files |
| 20:33.16 | mavhc | that's interesting |
| 20:33.32 | mavhc | or just multitouch zooming |
| 20:33.42 | lcuk | two touch allows it on these devices |
| 20:33.50 | lcuk | i keep pondering a CTRL key |
| 20:33.53 | lcuk | in the corner |
| 20:34.02 | lcuk | and when you swipe over any list it changes the scale |
| 20:34.16 | lcuk | but i never get any time for stuff like that :) |
| 20:34.32 | mavhc | seen the palm pre selection thing, it's weird |
| 20:34.42 | wazd_ | iriver have made something like this I think |
| 20:35.24 | lcuk | pass, cant remember much of the vids |
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| 20:36.36 | parigaudi | oddly enough a google for keywords "libgstreamer-interfaces maemo irc" leads me to an old log of this channel where inz says: |
| 20:36.54 | parigaudi | " Diablo's libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev didn't include .pc for gstreamer-interfaces and diablo doesn't have playbin2 -element, otherwise it seems to work just fine " |
| 20:37.24 | lcuk | heh - i expected you to say "<inz> i googled for "libgstreamer-interfaces maemo irc" but found nothing" |
| 20:37.45 | parigaudi | lol |
| 20:37.59 | lcuk | parigaudi, its even worse when you google a topic to realize it was indexed from the topic you made yourself just a few minutes before |
| 20:38.15 | lcuk | happened on slashdot enough times to freak me out |
| 20:38.45 | parigaudi | the thing is: it's not a problem in _my_ installation but a missing file in a package it seems |
| 20:39.44 | parigaudi | and while inz had the same prob as me it seems, the irc log doesn't give a solution as to where i can get this file |
| 20:39.55 | lcuk | do you need the .pc file |
| 20:40.51 | lcuk | it must be available you know |
| 20:41.00 | parigaudi | well, i need to develop something using the camera, so i was trying to start with the camera example |
| 20:41.15 | lcuk | cos looking in my liqbase makefile it uses pkg-config with gstreamer-0.10 |
| 20:41.27 | lcuk | yeah liqbase does camera stuffs too |
| 20:41.43 | parigaudi | i have no probs with the other gstreamer modules tho, only gstreamer-interfaces |
| 20:42.06 | lcuk | libgstreamer0.10-dev is marked as a build-dep |
| 20:42.34 | parigaudi | that one is installed |
| 20:43.18 | parigaudi | and it contains 5 .pc files but not for gstreamer-interfaces |
| 20:44.02 | lcuk | pass, it gets the camera data without it |
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| 20:44.42 | lcuk | theres plenty of camera using examples around, its not like the camera is unloved |
| 20:44.52 | lcuk | what do you need -interfaces for |
| 20:45.08 | parigaudi | the camera example seems to need it |
| 20:45.25 | parigaudi | maybe it's just in the makefile and not really used |
| 20:45.32 | parigaudi | i'll try to throw that one out |
| 20:45.39 | parigaudi | or link the library by hand |
| 20:46.09 | parigaudi | it's just that make example_camera fails because of that dependency |
| 20:46.25 | lcuk | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/maemo-barcode/ |
| 20:46.30 | lcuk | maemo barcode is a gtk app |
| 20:46.41 | lcuk | its got v similar deps as liqbase and works with camera |
| 20:46.52 | lcuk | and no -interfaces requirement i can see |
| 20:47.18 | lcuk | -lgstinterfaces-0.10 |
| 20:47.21 | lcuk | heh yes it does |
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| 20:47.33 | parigaudi | but directly, not via pkgconfig |
| 20:47.39 | lcuk | CDEBUG=-g |
| 20:47.39 | lcuk | # libgstinterfaces-0.10 is defined here to work around |
| 20:47.39 | lcuk | # a bug in gstreamer's pkg-config |
| 20:47.39 | lcuk | LDFLAGS=`pkg-config --libs $(LIBRARIES)` -lgstinterfaces-0.10 |
| 20:47.45 | parigaudi | aaah |
| 20:47.48 | parigaudi | lol |
| 20:48.01 | lcuk | never put that fix into liqbase |
| 20:48.06 | lcuk | i dont think its required |
| 20:48.10 | lcuk | but maybe lol |
| 20:48.15 | lcuk | chopped a lot out of the cam |
| 20:48.55 | parigaudi | funny thing, that maemo-barcode thing looks quite like what i was about to do |
| 20:49.12 | keesj | will qt on maemo give some pressure information when touched? |
| 20:49.20 | lcuk | well thats good then :) |
| 20:49.34 | parigaudi | though i was going for 2d barcodes with zxing |
| 20:49.57 | parigaudi | that part works and i basically only need to put a camera capture in front of it |
| 20:49.59 | lcuk | keesj, lbt and fiferboy should be able to tell you |
| 20:50.29 | keesj | QTabletEvents are able to get the pressure value from the touchscreen. |
| 20:50.36 | keesj | there is something I guess |
| 20:51.54 | lcuk | cool |
| 20:52.13 | lcuk | parigaudi, how well does it run on device |
| 20:52.16 | lcuk | being java and all that |
| 20:52.22 | jeremiah | http://test.maemo.org/cgi-bin/itp.cgi <------ Prototype for ITP |
| 20:52.33 | Stskeeps | woo |
| 20:52.36 | jeremiah | Can people test? ^^ |
| 20:52.57 | jeremiah | Please, no comments about the colors. :P |
| 20:53.09 | Stskeeps | where's the orange! |
| 20:53.23 | jeremiah | Stskeeps: Yeah, it needs more orange. :) |
| 20:53.57 | lcuk | is this a legal binding agreement lol |
| 20:53.57 | Stskeeps | i will do dummy stuff, if it's okay |
| 20:54.15 | Stskeeps | jeremiah: works so far |
| 20:54.29 | jeremiah | w00t |
| 20:54.52 | lcuk | jeremiah, |
| 20:54.55 | jeremiah | lcuk: Whaddya mean? |
| 20:54.58 | lcuk | when they give a package name |
| 20:55.01 | lcuk | and you want them to confirm |
| 20:55.05 | lcuk | dont let them change it |
| 20:55.19 | keesj | cool typing "lua" gives some "exstings" comments stuff |
| 20:55.31 | jeremiah | Ah, you think they _shouldn't_ be able to change it? |
| 20:55.32 | keesj | the interface is a little "web 1.0" :p |
| 20:55.46 | Stskeeps | keesj: everything involved debian packages is usually web1.0 |
| 20:55.46 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 20:55.49 | Proteous | web 0.5 |
| 20:55.51 | lcuk | no, if you need a confirmation screen have it as a label rather than a text box |
| 20:55.58 | Proteous | AOL 8.7 |
| 20:56.02 | jeremiah | keesj: Yeah, I wanted people not to package stuff twice. |
| 20:56.24 | jeremiah | lcuk: Yeah, you're probably right. |
| 20:56.39 | jeremiah | Hey, I _love_ web .25 - that was all I needed! |
| 20:56.46 | lcuk | 1 Packages already in maemo with a name like hello : |
| 20:56.46 | lcuk | othello |
| 20:56.46 | lcuk | Othello board game for Maemo |
| 20:57.00 | jeremiah | Cool, it works. |
| 20:57.08 | Proteous | LYNXs FTW! |
| 20:57.11 | lcuk | '; delete from user; |
| 20:57.19 | Proteous | heh |
| 20:57.34 | jeremiah | No 'user' in the db! |
| 20:57.37 | jeremiah | :P |
| 20:57.40 | Pavlov | n/win 38 |
| 20:57.41 | lcuk | jeremiah, i '; delete from user; |
| 20:57.44 | lcuk | crap |
| 20:57.44 | keesj | also when I "confirm" I gues the field should not be editable |
| 20:58.03 | Proteous | '; delete * from users where username="lcuk"; |
| 20:58.04 | jeremiah | keesj: Yeah, lcuk mentioned that too. |
| 20:58.18 | lcuk | the screen is too similar |
| 20:58.28 | lcuk | and because you dont have the "you already have this package" warning |
| 20:58.29 | jeremiah | Proteous: Also won't work. :) |
| 20:58.59 | jeremiah | I'll change it now . . . |
| 20:59.03 | Proteous | '; drop tables *; |
| 20:59.09 | lcuk | ' or 1=0 or ' |
| 20:59.12 | lcuk | makes the db go funny |
| 20:59.18 | Proteous | heh |
| 20:59.22 | jeremiah | Perl sanitizes the input. |
| 20:59.23 | lcuk | or we slasdhotted it |
| 20:59.36 | jeremiah | works for me! |
| 20:59.44 | lcuk | heh |
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| 21:00.15 | Proteous | gies it the (Jeremiah,"Works for me!") seal of approval |
| 21:00.26 | jeremiah | Weird that we can reach test.maemo.org via port 80 but not port 22. |
| 21:00.46 | keesj | also you can still edit the "package" after the ckeck |
| 21:00.46 | Proteous | yeah, what happend to the webserver on port 22? |
| 21:00.49 | lcuk | jeremiah, when do you log the requests to db |
| 21:00.57 | lcuk | cos i could send you tweets from device lol |
| 21:01.00 | lcuk | with random searches |
| 21:01.16 | jeremiah | lcuk: I am not going to tell you! (But its at the end. :) ) |
| 21:01.53 | jeremiah | lcuk: What I need to do is dump more data into the db, it just contains a small selection of packages right now. |
| 21:01.58 | jeremiah | I want to add all the distros. |
| 21:02.22 | jeremiah | I think right now it is just diablo/free |
| 21:03.57 | lcuk | yeah sounds reasonable, but when this goes live, whats gonna happen |
| 21:04.14 | keesj | what is it? |
| 21:04.36 | jeremiah | lcuk: What do you mean? What do you think will happen? |
| 21:05.06 | lcuk | could you see the intent and completion of intent as being something which could boost karma, for example |
| 21:05.16 | jeremiah | ah |
| 21:05.17 | Proteous | CHAOS! CATS AND DOGS LIVING TOGETHER! |
| 21:05.21 | jeremiah | heh |
| 21:05.29 | lcuk | is this going to be be brought into the maemoline maemo.org user account process |
| 21:05.35 | lcuk | mainline^ |
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| 21:05.44 | lcuk | likes the idea |
| 21:05.57 | jeremiah | I have no other plans but to use it to track package requests, but others can adapt it to whatever. |
| 21:06.09 | jeremiah | It think maintaining packages should give you a little karma |
| 21:06.13 | jeremiah | But that's just me |
| 21:06.35 | keesj | sounds very good |
| 21:06.45 | lcuk | i tend to agree :) those who work on packages and can navigate the pitfalls of different systems deserve credit :) |
| 21:06.50 | jeremiah | One thing we definitely want to do is correlate the maintainer with the actual maintainer - not the _upstream_ maintainer |
| 21:07.01 | jeremiah | Because if something goes wrong it would be nice to email them |
| 21:07.19 | jeremiah | Right now there are a lot of packages that say: debian-glibc-team@debian.org |
| 21:07.25 | lcuk | yes a real live person who knows the local lay of the land |
| 21:07.32 | jeremiah | And I suspect they are not porting their packages to maemo. :P |
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| 21:07.37 | jeremiah | Thought they are welcome to. |
| 21:07.49 | jeremiah | lcuk: Exactly. |
| 21:08.23 | lbt | keesj: AFAIK yes in Diablo, no in Fremantle |
| 21:08.49 | lcuk | lbt, is that just a temporary glitch whilst libraries are sorted do you think |
| 21:08.57 | lbt | hope so... |
| 21:09.02 | lcuk | i would also imagine so |
| 21:09.14 | lcuk | its just rerouting and making available signals from another source |
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| 21:12.50 | lcuk | lbt, when you took liqbase-playground through the builder, did anything glare out as being missing, and did you manage to run in mer |
| 21:14.05 | jeremiah | Looks like maemo.org is back up |
| 21:14.14 | jeremiah | Yay X-Fade! |
| 21:14.36 | lcuk | heh x-fade prolly isnt jumping for joy - too tired |
| 21:14.46 | lcuk | sat nursing the poorly 770 |
| 21:14.53 | lbt | lcuk: it built... |
| 21:14.59 | lbt | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Maemo://Mer://Extras://Devel/MerStable_Ubuntu_9.04/armel/ |
| 21:15.07 | lcuk | so its available in mer ? |
| 21:15.20 | lcuk | and not diablo lol |
| 21:15.28 | lbt | it's in the equivalent of extras-devel |
| 21:15.37 | lcuk | heh, thats still closer |
| 21:15.44 | lcuk | it wont build for me in diablo |
| 21:15.52 | lcuk | mostly because of no environment to build from |
| 21:16.18 | lcuk | so i cant change the dependency versions back down |
| 21:16.20 | lcuk | to get it through |
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| 21:19.08 | lbt | apt-get install liqbase-playground is working but is very very slow... "Setting up liqbase-playground" |
| 21:19.19 | lbt | 3 mins so far |
| 21:19.29 | lbt | done |
| 21:19.31 | lcuk | its a big file |
| 21:20.22 | lbt | it's in extras on the menu but doesn't run |
| 21:20.29 | lcuk | liqbase-playground-run.sh from console |
| 21:20.29 | lbt | canvas XvQueryAdaptors returned no adapters : System Error : Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 21:20.35 | lcuk | ahhh right |
| 21:20.42 | lcuk | no xv :( |
| 21:20.48 | lbt | http://pastebin.com/m6e4528d1 |
| 21:21.34 | lcuk | thanks :) |
| 21:21.40 | lbt | you should be able to use those debs on maemo too FWIW |
| 21:21.42 | lcuk | just realised the version numbers are out |
| 21:22.09 | lcuk | rly/ |
| 21:22.24 | lcuk | version diffs? |
| 21:25.02 | lcuk | just spotted a bug |
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| 21:26.09 | lbt | user |
| 21:26.31 | lcuk | yeah, it holds a readable name in the preferences file (or should do) |
| 21:26.37 | lcuk | if there isnt one it just uses user |
| 21:26.44 | lcuk | :) it could use the linux user instead |
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| 21:28.40 | pupnik | . |
| 21:28.49 | lcuk | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.55 | Proteous | . |
| 21:29.01 | jeremiah | . |
| 21:29.06 | jeremiah | We're going dotty! |
| 21:29.15 | lbt | , |
| 21:29.22 | lbt | mine's bigger |
| 21:29.25 | lcuk | i think the phrase is C-C-C-COMBO-BREAKER! |
| 21:29.32 | Proteous | heh |
| 21:29.34 | jeremiah | o |
| 21:29.37 | lbt | O |
| 21:29.40 | jeremiah | O |
| 21:29.45 | lbt | () |
| 21:29.59 | jeremiah | .oO( BIGGEST ) |
| 21:30.02 | parigaudi | lcuk: sorry (got called away for a while) |
| 21:30.18 | parigaudi | lcuk: zxing has a cpp port which compiles and works under maemo |
| 21:30.23 | lbt | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.25 | lcuk | "works" |
| 21:30.26 | lbt | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.48 | Proteous | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.49 | lcuk | is it quick enough for realtime |
| 21:30.50 | Proteous | |_| |
| 21:30.57 | lbt | heh |
| 21:31.01 | parigaudi | well, i tested with a couple sample qrcode 2d barcodes |
| 21:31.06 | parigaudi | realtime? |
| 21:31.14 | lcuk | heh, can you decode this: ... |
| 21:31.15 | parigaudi | what's realtime for barcode scanning? |
| 21:31.33 | Proteous | it tells you what the item is before you scan it |
| 21:31.34 | lcuk | http://liqbase.net/barcode.png |
| 21:31.46 | lcuk | pari whilst the camera is infront of it |
| 21:32.03 | parigaudi | not implemented the camera part yet |
| 21:32.18 | lcuk | http://liqbase.net/liq.20081026_204523.gary.cam.png |
| 21:33.16 | lcuk | to be done properly, the barcode shouldnt be a discrete app really |
| 21:33.23 | lcuk | just something thats available when the camera is on |
| 21:33.32 | parigaudi | well i planned it like this: |
| 21:33.41 | parigaudi | one shared lib with zxing |
| 21:33.47 | derf | E.g., maemo-barcode, if you could convince lardman to actually work on it. |
| 21:33.54 | Proteous | it will be like the iphoto facial recognition system and find barcodes in all sorts of things like peaches and dinner plates |
| 21:34.07 | lcuk | yes Proteous lol |
| 21:34.27 | parigaudi | and one simple app that you can start and choose an application profile (e.g. what barcode types and what to do with it) |
| 21:34.39 | derf | lcuk: And your code says "lardman, here you go." |
| 21:34.45 | lcuk | :D derf |
| 21:35.01 | lcuk | its used as a button on the default image viewer and in the corner of one of the camera views |
| 21:35.08 | parigaudi | and when you then scan a barcode, it would either launch an app with the decoded code as argument |
| 21:35.10 | derf | My qrcode reader decodes _far_ more codes successfully than zxing. |
| 21:35.28 | parigaudi | or pass it via some other message passing ways to an already running app |
| 21:35.39 | lcuk | shared lib sounds good to me |
| 21:35.49 | derf | And has no C++ dependency. |
| 21:35.50 | parigaudi | e.g. dbus |
| 21:36.02 | parigaudi | yes zxing-cpp has c++ dependency |
| 21:36.16 | derf | (the whole thing fits in less than 64k) |
| 21:36.49 | nomis | derf: what is "your" qrcode reader? |
| 21:36.55 | lcuk | likes native oldstyle proper shared lib apis :) |
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| 21:37.10 | nomis | (sorry if I am being ignorant...) |
| 21:38.02 | lcuk | parigaudi, shared lib, barcode_tryidentify(sourcedata,resultcount,resultitems) |
| 21:38.23 | parigaudi | resultcount,resultitems? |
| 21:38.34 | parigaudi | you only get one string result right now |
| 21:38.35 | lcuk | yeah, there can be more than one barcode in an image |
| 21:38.44 | derf | nomis: https://garage.maemo.org/svn/maemo-barcode/trunk/qrcode/ |
| 21:39.01 | lcuk | especially once the megapixels go up |
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| 21:39.11 | parigaudi | lcuk: dude, the n810 camera is already limit resolution for ONE barcode |
| 21:39.17 | nomis | derf: ah, thanks. |
| 21:39.21 | parigaudi | yeah with the megapixels... |
| 21:39.22 | lcuk | the new device has a 5megapixel camera |
| 21:39.47 | lcuk | parigaudi, i am thinking clearly and for the future - a proper method for you to return correct data :) |
| 21:40.02 | parigaudi | but multi-barcode detection would probably be quite a bit harder |
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| 21:40.11 | parigaudi | with qrcode it would be feasible |
| 21:40.32 | lcuk | yes, or when you take a picture of a shopping isle and 15 normal 1d barcodes show up |
| 21:40.34 | parigaudi | but it's not supported by zxing |
| 21:40.39 | parigaudi | lol |
| 21:40.49 | derf | I would love to spend the time to make a real multi-format detector... but Google doesn't pay me to do this, unlike the zxing authors. |
| 21:40.56 | lcuk | look at the facial recognition software on cameras now |
| 21:41.04 | lcuk | they return number and locations of multiple heads |
| 21:41.09 | lcuk | do the same with a barcode |
| 21:41.59 | lcuk | even if at first it is only used for a single code |
| 21:42.27 | parigaudi | well, i'll start with what's readily available (i.e. one barcode at a time) and then when the megapixels are there it can still be extended |
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| 21:43.02 | lcuk | the barcode scan routine that the screenshot above shows merely finds patterns like barcodes - it checks all lines but might find multiple patterns |
| 21:43.17 | lcuk | its not any slower |
| 21:43.24 | lcuk | you still need to check the whole picture anyway |
| 21:43.48 | zek152 | A question about the nokia n810, The reviews mentioned taht the GPS didnt work well. Has that been patched or is that still an issue? |
| 21:44.08 | lcuk | yes, they adjusted the orbits of the satellites to be a little closer |
| 21:44.12 | lcuk | lock times have improved |
| 21:44.44 | parigaudi | and it's also a question very much dependent on the gps chipset |
| 21:44.55 | parigaudi | i hope they put a sirfIII in the new device |
| 21:45.27 | lcuk | anyway, vanishing, bbiab |
| 21:45.50 | zek152 | parigaudi, are there different gps chips in the n810 ? |
| 21:46.13 | parigaudi | zek152: i don't know what gps chip(set) they put in there. |
| 21:46.25 | parigaudi | zek152: but only one |
| 21:46.34 | Jaffa | Old, NSFW and UK centric: http://www.backingblair.co.uk/london_underground/ |
| 21:46.41 | nomis | zek152: AFAIK the n810 uses some component more-or-less already integrated in the CPU core. |
| 21:47.06 | zek152 | parigaudi, ok thats what i thought. I believe that it is a TI chip. I saw the specific chip somewhere |
| 21:47.24 | zek152 | What are typical fix times? |
| 21:48.10 | jophish | gar, 1.0.0.0 is back again |
| 21:48.42 | jophish | and now stuck waiting for headers |
| 21:48.49 | jophish | isn't this magical |
| 21:48.50 | parigaudi | didn't use the gps much, so i can't really tell about times |
| 21:49.30 | parigaudi | last time i had the impression it just wouldn't lock and then i put the n810 closer to the windshield front and a couples sec later it had locked |
| 21:49.39 | parigaudi | so i really don't know |
| 21:50.23 | Proteous | zek152: typical fix times are 30 sec to never |
| 21:50.39 | Proteous | depending on sat visability |
| 21:50.53 | zek152 | ok. well never is a long time lol |
| 21:50.54 | ShadowJK | mine's about 20 sec in my car |
| 21:51.02 | Proteous | but normaly in a non moving outside position around 1 min or so |
| 21:51.20 | Proteous | YMMV |
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| 21:52.03 | jophish | has anyone had a problem with apt-get update on maemo? |
| 21:52.09 | Stskeeps | plenty? ;) |
| 21:52.14 | jophish | hanging on "waiting for headers" |
| 21:52.21 | zek152 | Also, second thing. Are there vpn clients that you can install on the n810? I want to use this at a university that uses airlink |
| 21:52.30 | Stskeeps | zek152: vpnc exists |
| 21:52.56 | parigaudi | there's an openvpn applet too |
| 21:53.04 | parigaudi | didn't try it tho |
| 21:53.11 | parigaudi | but i plan to |
| 21:53.44 | zek152 | I dont know much about vpn but i thought that there were different protocols. Should it work with all? (I am at purdue university in case someone here is too) |
| 21:55.03 | parigaudi | indeed lots of very different protocols |
| 21:55.37 | zek152 | http://www.itap.purdue.edu/airlink/info/about.cfm Thats the page about the wireless network |
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| 21:56.39 | parigaudi | they don't tell you WHAT KIND of vpn it is |
| 21:57.04 | parigaudi | least not on that page |
| 21:57.26 | jeremiah | Stskeeps: hmmm. All I see is a blue arrow icon and a red X |
| 21:57.34 | jeremiah | Where is the folder icon? |
| 22:02.08 | florian | hi all |
| 22:04.39 | jophish | hmm, cant seem to connect to http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/diablo/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz |
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| 22:26.07 | jophish | hurrah! typing this from maemo |
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| 22:35.02 | jeremiah | jophish: Yeah, there have been some outages recently. |
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| 22:38.03 | jaem_N810 | hey folks |
| 22:38.56 | jaem_N810 | I rebooted my N810 last night (which is cloned to a card), and it kept crashing and rebooting at the Creepy Hands (TM) screen |
| 22:39.36 | jaem_N810 | after a few times, it hung just before the bootmenu prompt, and said "TEST" in large green letters at the bottom |
| 22:40.09 | jaem_N810 | pulling the battery made it boot again, but is that something I should be concerned about? |
| 22:41.31 | wiza | anyone here who has some skills with iptables? |
| 22:42.00 | wiza | I'm having problem with traffic going to wrong interface |
| 22:42.16 | wiza | it's going to eth2 and it should be going to eth0 |
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| 22:50.02 | Proteous | LOL @ Creepy Hands |
| 22:50.33 | Proteous | I've messed with iptables a little |
| 22:50.37 | Proteous | although it's been a while |
| 22:50.54 | jaem_N810 | Proteous: I believe there was a discussion on ItT a while back when someone mentioned animated splash code committed ;) |
| 22:51.33 | Proteous | heh |
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| 23:46.27 | Proteous | OMG finaly got my shipping confirmation email from nokia |
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| 23:58.34 | ds3 | how long do people's battery last? (not run time, but time before battery capacity is noticeably decreased) |
| 23:58.46 | Luke-Jr | in practice, about 2 hours |
| 23:58.53 | Luke-Jr | in theory, I hear a month idle |
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| 23:59.08 | Luke-Jr | oh, I get your parenthesis part now, nm |
