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| 00:43.57 | _Pit_Bull | Hello people )) |
| 00:45.18 | _Pit_Bull | Who speaking Russian ? |
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| 00:47.45 | _Pit_Bull | Please say me , what another OS may installing on Nokia n8xx ? |
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| 00:48.53 | _Pit_Bull | !time |
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| 00:49.24 | b-man16 | ~time |
| 00:49.25 | infobot | rumour has it, time is 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2009.06.06 0:49:25 GMT |
| 00:50.39 | _Pit_Bull | thank you. |
| 00:51.00 | b-man16 | no problem :) |
| 00:51.05 | Noma | and about the OS's: http://wiki.maemo.org/Alternative_operating_systems |
| 00:51.33 | b-man16 | yes? |
| 00:51.33 | _Pit_Bull | thank you)) |
| 00:51.46 | _Pit_Bull | I am from Russia )) |
| 00:52.20 | Noma | b-man16: 03:47:45 < _Pit_Bull> Please say me , what another OS may installing on Nokia n8xx ? |
| 00:52.33 | Noma | seconds before you joined:) |
| 00:52.48 | b-man16 | ah, ok |
| 00:54.37 | _Pit_Bull | I want buy Nokia n800 or n810, because i intresting some aspects. |
| 00:56.22 | _Pit_Bull | cheat, i bad speaking english, sorry |
| 00:56.25 | b-man16 | *am interested ;) |
| 00:56.43 | b-man16 | it's ok :) |
| 00:57.53 | _Pit_Bull | I write on Deplhi/Kylix . May i port my programs on maemo os ? |
| 00:59.16 | b-man16 | it should be possible |
| 00:59.41 | b-man16 | it makes since |
| 00:59.58 | b-man16 | *sense |
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| 01:00.27 | _Pit_Bull | i don't known what you say,sorry |
| 01:02.19 | _Pit_Bull | thank you )) bye all |
| 01:02.44 | Noma | well that was an interesting conversation |
| 01:02.47 | b-man16 | hmm :P |
| 01:02.50 | b-man16 | indeed |
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| 01:03.56 | b-man16 | i was going to talk to him in russian using google translator, but he left before i could do so XD |
| 01:04.06 | Noma | i was just thinking about it too:D |
| 01:04.29 | b-man16 | XD |
| 01:04.56 | Noma | though i don't know how it translates into russian, at least finnish seems to be hard to it :p |
| 01:06.09 | Noma | above line translated from finnish to english: Admittedly, I do not know how to reverse the Russian, at least in Finland seems to be difficult for it. |
| 01:07.17 | b-man16 | hmm |
| 01:08.20 | b-man16 | is running a javascript webserver on his tablet atm btw XD |
| 01:08.34 | Noma | javascript webserver wtf?:D |
| 01:08.50 | b-man16 | yup, Ejscript |
| 01:09.55 | Noma | ok |
| 01:10.03 | b-man16 | it's more like a web application framework though - it's designed to work without the aid of a browser :D |
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| 01:10.58 | Noma | so it's like the serverside java but javascript?:p |
| 01:11.12 | b-man16 | yup |
| 01:11.38 | b-man16 | but it's easier than java XD |
| 01:11.47 | Noma | yep, not that complicated |
| 01:12.39 | b-man16 | pluse it can run stan alone scripts or compiled javascript :) |
| 01:12.45 | b-man16 | *stand |
| 01:13.30 | Noma | hmm maybe i should go to sleep, it's 4 am :/ |
| 01:13.32 | b-man16 | and it has support for jquery :) |
| 01:13.39 | b-man16 | wow 0.o |
| 01:13.52 | b-man16 | you should XD |
| 01:14.07 | rzr | Noma: nitdroid :) |
| 01:14.35 | rzr | Noma: http://digg.com/linux_unix/NITdroid_or_just_another_Android_port_nokia_770_and_later |
| 01:16.18 | Noma | hmm, is nitdroid still missing bluetooth (+ possibility to connect to internet via 3g phone)? |
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| 01:33.56 | FireFox` | ~seen xnt14 |
| 01:34.00 | infobot | xnt14 <n=chatzill@pool-96-250-79-216.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 2d 9h 22m 50s ago, saying: ':P'. |
| 01:34.25 | FireFox` | damn, i missed him :P |
| 01:35.10 | FireFox` | jumps on twitter to bug him XD |
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| 02:03.30 | luke-jr | Noma: that list omits Gentoo :< |
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| 02:35.26 | dieb_ | does anyone know how to get rid of "sem_post: Function not implemented" on diablo sbox python2.5? |
| 02:35.27 | Bobbe | do the council meetings happen here in irc? |
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| 03:54.05 | luke-jr | $*(#&)$# |
| 03:54.11 | luke-jr | wtf is with this? :/ |
| 03:54.14 | luke-jr | BME won't let me boot |
| 03:54.16 | luke-jr | piece of crap |
| 03:59.49 | luke-jr | Stskeeps: plz help? :< |
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| 04:03.27 | luke-jr | "BME warning: ignored processwd PONG!" |
| 04:03.29 | luke-jr | wtf is that |
| 04:04.22 | luke-jr | crap |
| 04:04.25 | luke-jr | it affects Maemo too |
| 04:04.33 | luke-jr | I'm screwed? :/ |
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| 04:07.45 | luke-jr | fun, bootmenu's rescue mode is broken too |
| 04:07.52 | luke-jr | except it just fails to start ssh |
| 04:07.53 | luke-jr | -.- |
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| 04:21.06 | Macer | holy shit kde4 runs like shit on this intel |
| 04:21.17 | Macer | there has to be something astray |
| 04:21.36 | Macer | win7 doesn't run nearly as shitty when it comes to the 3D stuff |
| 04:21.47 | luke-jr | Macer: help me :þ |
| 04:22.00 | Macer | huh? |
| 04:22.14 | luke-jr | my N810 won't boot |
| 04:22.19 | Macer | maybe i can find a better driver for this shit |
| 04:22.23 | Macer | it won't boot at all? |
| 04:22.26 | luke-jr | nope |
| 04:22.28 | Macer | like you bricked it or something? |
| 04:22.33 | luke-jr | and bootmenu's rescue thing is screwed |
| 04:22.40 | luke-jr | wasn't me, I swear |
| 04:22.40 | Macer | wow.. bricked it huh? :) |
| 04:22.42 | luke-jr | the blob did it |
| 04:22.45 | Macer | sure it wasn't :) |
| 04:22.51 | luke-jr | BME |
| 04:22.54 | luke-jr | is responsible |
| 04:23.10 | Macer | heh |
| 04:23.11 | Macer | well |
| 04:23.20 | Macer | i'm kind of working on getting this intel not to run like total shit |
| 04:23.24 | Macer | in kubuntu |
| 04:23.24 | luke-jr | :/ |
| 04:25.35 | luke-jr | Macer: disabling DSME's watchdog should workaround it |
| 04:25.36 | luke-jr | any idea how? |
| 04:26.01 | Macer | huh? |
| 04:26.13 | luke-jr | DSME's process watchdog is killing BME |
| 04:26.40 | Macer | i dunno man. i haven't worked on my n800 in a very long time.. and i never bricked it. |
| 04:26.45 | Macer | how far does it get when you turn it on? |
| 04:30.53 | luke-jr | Macer: it starts booting |
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| 04:33.32 | qwerty12_N810 | luke-jr: Tried the RD-Mode flags? |
| 04:33.46 | luke-jr | qwerty12_N810: that's what i was about to do.. |
| 04:33.59 | luke-jr | but flasher @($*@# screwed up my desktop machine's host stack |
| 04:34.05 | luke-jr | USB* |
| 04:34.11 | luke-jr | so now I don't have USB until I reboot |
| 04:34.12 | luke-jr | jerks |
| 04:34.49 | luke-jr | guess I now have real-world examples of Nokia's idiot proprietaryness causing practical problems |
| 04:35.55 | luke-jr | unless there's some other way to restart khubd? |
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| 05:05.55 | RST38h | moos at qwerty |
| 05:06.15 | qwerty12_N810 | hi RST38h :) |
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| 05:14.51 | GAN800 | Hava http://woot.com/ |
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| 05:24.10 | Macer | wtf. i wonder why this intel945 is so damn slow in kde4 |
| 05:31.49 | RST38h | kde4 is probably slow by itself |
| 05:32.07 | RST38h | As it effectively turned itself into Windows |
| 05:33.40 | luke-jr | Macer: turn off compositing? |
| 05:33.57 | Macer | RST38h: haha |
| 05:34.06 | luke-jr | Macer: also, stop using the Oxygen style |
| 05:34.13 | Macer | i suppose so but as far as enviroments go it is a better choice |
| 05:34.20 | Macer | luke-jr: but i want the 3d effects :) |
| 05:34.30 | luke-jr | Macer: turn off Oxygen at least |
| 05:34.32 | Macer | windows 7 runs like a dream on it |
| 05:34.49 | Macer | which means the performance hit is somewhere in either X, linux, or kde4 |
| 05:35.10 | luke-jr | probably KDE 4 or x |
| 05:35.32 | Macer | or maybe the onboard video is just a total piece of shit ;) |
| 05:36.01 | Macer | but windows 7 eliminated that possibility because it was running fairly well on the same box |
| 05:36.02 | luke-jr | tbh, the X11 design is totally screwed up ⺠|
| 05:36.20 | Macer | i wish i could dev |
| 05:36.25 | Macer | so i could make a better system of gui :) |
| 05:36.28 | luke-jr | I wish I had time. |
| 05:36.38 | Macer | there has to be a better way than the server/client system |
| 05:37.12 | luke-jr | no -.- |
| 05:37.17 | luke-jr | that's not related to the problem |
| 05:37.21 | Macer | haha |
| 05:37.32 | Macer | its just overbuilding of xorg? :) |
| 05:37.45 | luke-jr | the problem is that compositing is effectively client->server->client->server->display |
| 05:38.04 | luke-jr | and the server is really dumb |
| 05:38.12 | Macer | hm. damn i don't have ssh set up on it yet |
| 05:38.14 | Macer | and osx was a bust |
| 05:38.18 | luke-jr | toolkits should be on the server side |
| 05:38.21 | Macer | maybe i should just try one of the premade dvds |
| 05:38.26 | Macer | and see if i can get osx on it with that |
| 05:38.27 | luke-jr | clients/apps should just transmit widget info |
| 05:39.31 | Macer | i'm just going to try out osx86 again |
| 05:39.45 | Macer | one last time with an older version of kalaway or something |
| 05:42.26 | Macer | ipc osx86 looks rather promising |
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| 06:47.02 | zakkm | whats this Mamona i just watched a youtube vid of? |
| 06:47.33 | Stskeeps | old stuff |
| 06:47.47 | zakkm | 2009-05-15 - Mamona Installer 0.2.6 released - http://dev.openbossa.org/trac/mamona/wiki/Releases/0.2/MamonaInstaller for installation procedure. ? |
| 06:48.06 | zakkm | is it like mer , but different ppl and such? |
| 06:48.31 | Stskeeps | different view on the world i'd say. much of their work is interesting and used in mer |
| 06:48.36 | Stskeeps | but it's not really a consumer thing |
| 06:48.45 | zakkm | i like the virtual keyboard thingy in it |
| 06:48.53 | zakkm | its cool they used e17 and it looked nice ;p |
| 06:49.00 | Stskeeps | heh |
| 06:49.02 | zakkm | sort of at the top like in mer |
| 06:49.11 | zakkm | applet thingy to bring keyboard/take it away |
| 06:49.46 | Stskeeps | any embedded linux distribution will diverge towards using enlightenment, and then wither and fade away |
| 06:49.58 | zakkm | heh |
| 06:50.07 | zakkm | enlightenment got alot faster i heard |
| 06:50.12 | zakkm | started using assembly and stuff |
| 06:50.15 | Stskeeps | .. |
| 06:50.18 | zakkm | or something |
| 06:50.37 | Stskeeps | any coder will diverge towards the insanity of having assembly code in his C programs |
| 06:50.40 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 06:51.00 | zakkm | i dont understnad how anyone could write assembly |
| 06:52.47 | zakkm | http://franciscoalecrim.com/blog/2009/06/06/webkit-efl-running-on-n810/ ? |
| 06:52.54 | Stskeeps | ah, it's not difficult once you know how to |
| 06:53.39 | Stskeeps | yeah, webkit is fast :P |
| 06:53.45 | zakkm | whats efl ? |
| 06:53.58 | Stskeeps | enlightenment foundation libraries |
| 06:54.02 | zakkm | oh rightt |
| 06:54.13 | zakkm | cool |
| 06:54.20 | zakkm | oh i guess thats only helpful in enlightenment |
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| 07:34.06 | aquatix | morning all |
| 07:34.22 | Stskeeps | morn |
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| 07:40.19 | Stskeeps | lo crashanddie |
| 07:40.54 | crashanddie | ello |
| 07:41.06 | Stskeeps | how goes? |
| 07:41.11 | crashanddie | lmao |
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| 07:41.19 | crashanddie | the "Warning: #maemo is perilous for your job." is still on there |
| 07:41.54 | crashanddie | Stskeeps, not too bad |
| 07:42.02 | crashanddie | Stskeeps, about to go to the office though |
| 07:42.30 | Stskeeps | on a saturday? |
| 07:42.34 | crashanddie | oh yeah |
| 07:42.39 | crashanddie | and even tomorrow by the looks of it |
| 07:43.06 | qwerty12 | Didn't have you down as a workaholic :P |
| 07:43.21 | Stskeeps | ah, and i thought i was bad off reading for exams.. |
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| 07:44.04 | crashanddie | qwerty12, yeah actually I guess I quite am |
| 07:44.15 | qwerty12 | heh :) |
| 07:44.29 | crashanddie | I had the Monday off |
| 07:44.54 | crashanddie | and my calendar is telling me I'm already at 72 hours |
| 07:46.05 | crashanddie | A good job is made out of 5 things |
| 07:47.04 | crashanddie | 1/ Pay 2/ Location (transport) 3/ People 4/ Actual work you're doing 5/ Place it allows you to live |
| 07:47.24 | crashanddie | if you have 3 out of 5, you're on to a winner |
| 07:47.55 | crashanddie | if you have 4 out of 5, that's quite amazing and very lucky, and if you have all 5, you'd be mad to even think about jumping sides |
| 07:48.51 | crashanddie | I think i have like 3.5 |
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| 07:49.31 | Stskeeps | mm, i still wonder where i would be after september |
| 07:49.35 | crashanddie | qwerty12, plus, you're going to be the biggest of all in terms of workaholism |
| 07:49.42 | qwerty12 | ORLY? |
| 07:49.51 | crashanddie | yeah |
| 07:49.59 | crashanddie | seen how much you work for maemo/mer? |
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| 07:50.08 | qwerty12 | :> |
| 07:50.36 | Stskeeps | qwerty12 has the mental ability to take a break though |
| 07:50.53 | Stskeeps | which i have difficulties with |
| 07:52.11 | crashanddie | taking a break? |
| 07:52.15 | crashanddie | that's not in my contract |
| 07:52.21 | crashanddie | see, with the line of work I do |
| 07:52.25 | crashanddie | I've come to realise |
| 07:52.33 | crashanddie | that, sometimes I can ask my boss to have the day, or the weekend |
| 07:52.40 | crashanddie | and sure, he'll grant it |
| 07:53.13 | crashanddie | but damn, he never says "day off", or "weekend off", so if shit hits the fan, he WILL call until he gets a hold of me |
| 07:53.26 | crashanddie | call or whatever necessary |
| 07:54.06 | qwerty12 | Buy a 3310 and chuck it in the river when you hear it ringing :) |
| 07:54.49 | crashanddie | I'm actually trying to find the blackberry SDK, so that my BB automagically switches anyone from work to "THE DEVIL" when I tell it I'm on holiday |
| 07:59.23 | Macer | well |
| 07:59.29 | Macer | one last ditch effort for osx |
| 07:59.32 | crashanddie | lmao: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CYC-WoQWmg#4m10s gotta love the rant |
| 07:59.33 | Macer | THEN i give up :) |
| 07:59.52 | Macer | lol |
| 07:59.58 | Macer | kde4 runs like crap on this shuttl |
| 07:59.59 | Macer | shuttle |
| 08:00.13 | Macer | this doesn't work then it's win7 i suppose |
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| 08:36.04 | Macer | damnit |
| 08:36.15 | Macer | all this time trying all these awkward things with a retail osx disc |
| 08:36.26 | Macer | when i could have just used an iPC disc to install 10.5.6 |
| 08:36.35 | Macer | what a waste of life :) |
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| 08:42.18 | aquatix | Macer: :) |
| 08:42.32 | Macer | aquatix: blah :) i wasted a whole day yesterday trying to use my retail osx dvd |
| 08:43.21 | Macer | are sse3 and ssse3 different things? |
| 08:43.35 | aquatix | ssse3? don't know that one |
| 08:43.56 | Macer | sse4_1? |
| 08:43.57 | Macer | wtf? :) |
| 08:44.03 | Macer | i'm just reading my linux cpuinfo |
| 08:44.07 | Macer | so i don't mess up on this osx install |
| 08:44.25 | Macer | it says if i am on amd or sse2 system i must choose a voodoo kernel |
| 08:44.26 | Macer | wtf? :) |
| 08:44.38 | aquatix | black magic for the win |
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| 08:46.23 | Macer | wow like.. this is some serious osx hackery |
| 08:46.34 | Macer | i mean these guys totally rewrote the osx install |
| 08:46.48 | aquatix | nice |
| 08:47.02 | Macer | i mean .. it's like going through a linux kernel config haha |
| 08:47.35 | aquatix | hence voodoo ;) |
| 08:47.40 | Macer | lol |
| 08:47.49 | Macer | well.. i don't think it's actually modifying the kernel |
| 08:47.53 | Macer | i think it just installs ktexts |
| 08:47.58 | Macer | well.. :) |
| 08:48.08 | Macer | ktext... one could only wonder what the k stands for |
| 08:48.09 | Macer | heh |
| 08:48.59 | Macer | does pci-e use agpart at all? |
| 08:49.33 | aquatix | crashanddie: ooooohkay... (@ that youtube link) |
| 08:49.44 | crashanddie | @_ |
| 08:49.47 | crashanddie | :) |
| 08:49.48 | aquatix | Macer: no sure |
| 08:50.40 | aquatix | *not |
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| 09:00.05 | Macer | welp.. let's see if this thing explodes |
| 09:00.16 | Macer | if this works i might work on my artigo next.. i need to take debian off it |
| 09:00.24 | Macer | and install something a little more "server" :) |
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| 09:10.23 | aquatix | Macer: as in opensolaris or something? |
| 09:10.32 | aquatix | i rather like debian for server stuff myself |
| 09:11.55 | Macer | blah |
| 09:11.59 | Macer | install failed |
| 09:12.09 | Macer | run preinstall script for 920SpeedStepKernel |
| 09:12.13 | Macer | wtf? :) |
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| 09:17.51 | minra | use a pocket handkerchief when you sneeze - dont be a virus vector - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3vICbXzjWw |
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| 09:42.42 | wazd | hello maemo |
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| 10:42.50 | Macer | damnit |
| 10:42.58 | Macer | i have tried every which way to get this stupid onboard thing working |
| 10:43.02 | Macer | in osx |
| 10:43.12 | Macer | everything works but the marvell that others seem to be able to get working and i have no idea wtf i am doing wrong |
| 10:43.53 | johnx | and that's why I never bothered messing with hackintosh stuff :) |
| 10:44.42 | Macer | heh |
| 10:44.47 | Macer | it is driving me up a fucking wall man :) |
| 10:44.51 | Macer | what.. the.. fuck |
| 10:44.58 | johnx | heh |
| 10:45.00 | Macer | it looks like it should be working but it simply isn't |
| 10:45.04 | johnx | look at the logs? |
| 10:45.04 | Macer | and i can't for the life of me find out why |
| 10:45.09 | Macer | yes.... |
| 10:45.19 | lcuk | hey johnx did they let you back in the country then |
| 10:45.27 | johnx | yup |
| 10:45.45 | lcuk | excellent :D |
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| 10:45.54 | johnx | getting through CPH security into the airport was actually more of a pain than getting back into the US |
| 10:46.01 | lcuk | heh |
| 10:46.14 | johnx | though whoever thought reclining seats in coach class was a good idea should be forced to sit in one |
| 10:46.15 | lcuk | they were a bit efficient |
| 10:46.23 | lcuk | my pants nearly fell down when i had to take belt off |
| 10:46.25 | Macer | wait |
| 10:46.28 | Macer | there is something i hadn't noticed |
| 10:46.40 | Macer | appleYukon2 ... failed to allocate msi interrupt |
| 10:47.01 | johnx | probably some off the wall EFI vs BIOS IRQ handling stuff |
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| 10:59.59 | amit_usual | hi ,is there a way i.e can connect my repository to some other svn repository |
| 11:00.48 | johnx | sorry, not exactly sure I understand what you're trying to do |
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| 11:03.15 | amit_usual | well just like we have linking of normal directories , what i want is that i link to some other repository such that any updates on it lead to an update on my repository |
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| 11:17.43 | jeremiah_torp | amit_usual: That is going to freak svn out. |
| 11:18.17 | jeremiah_torp | svn is centralized, do and 'svn info' to find out what your svn instance is reading. |
| 11:18.28 | RST38h | "It should be noted that while infected individuals don't casually choose to use non-rhyming words, they are able to and the consequences may be deadly. At the request of the cleaning crews assigned to clean up the blood, researchers are strongly discouraged from similar experiments." |
| 11:18.54 | Macer | well. guess i'll try this realtek 8139 |
| 11:19.07 | johnx | ah, good old rtl8139 |
| 11:19.21 | johnx | my first ethernet card :) |
| 11:20.59 | VDVsx | jeremiah_torp, but you can fetch a external svn repo, without any problem |
| 11:21.40 | jeremiah_torp | VDVsx: Well of course, just start a new repo. |
| 11:22.03 | jeremiah_torp | If amit_usual is trying to merge, he will have to do that by hand. :P |
| 11:22.12 | jeremiah_torp | Which is fine, just seems pointless. |
| 11:22.19 | VDVsx | jeremiah_torp, is a common practice, when you have some dependencies in other project under development |
| 11:23.08 | jeremiah_torp | I thought he was talking about _linking_? |
| 11:23.21 | jeremiah_torp | as in ln -s ? |
| 11:24.21 | jeremiah_torp | Hm, is git already in fremantle? It appears to be in my SDK. :) |
| 11:25.05 | jeremiah_torp | No - I think there is some confusion. |
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| 11:26.04 | VDVsx | jeremiah_torp, yes, but he don't want it for sure :P |
| 11:29.10 | Stskeeps | jeremiah_torp: theres a devkit in sb |
| 11:30.26 | Macer | johnx: haha |
| 11:30.35 | Macer | dwell... i'm trying to get this damn marvell to work still |
| 11:30.40 | Macer | the realtek just simply worked |
| 11:30.59 | johnx | are you really doing something that benefits from gigabit ethernet? |
| 11:31.09 | Macer | yes |
| 11:31.15 | Macer | i am pretty sure i will be moving large files between the two |
| 11:31.33 | Macer | i wasn't able to get a 8169 working though for some sickly reason |
| 11:32.04 | Macer | and the onboard marvell isn't either |
| 11:32.06 | Macer | it sucks man :-\ |
| 11:32.44 | johnx | so what's the killer app on mac os x that you need so badly? or just enjoying hacking around? |
| 11:33.00 | Macer | osx is nicer on this than win7 |
| 11:33.50 | johnx | I just think there's so much difference between the hackintosh osx experience and the "mac" osx experience |
| 11:34.48 | jeremiah_torp | Stskeeps: Yeah, that devkit lokks like a bunch O' good stuff |
| 11:35.04 | jeremiah_torp | Macer: Is it that marvel sheeva plug? |
| 11:35.06 | johnx | Macer, couldn't really see how it would be worth it, but to each his own I guess |
| 11:35.42 | jeremiah_torp | Oh no, its not. :P |
| 11:35.58 | jeremiah_torp | And I think I should say Marvell, not marvel. |
| 11:36.21 | Macer | huh? |
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| 11:36.36 | johnx | mmm sheeva plug looks delicious |
| 11:36.42 | johnx | but so does the openrd-client |
| 11:36.43 | Macer | johnx: it's actually pretty nice |
| 11:36.57 | Macer | i have the 8139 working in it now but i really hate having that gbit one just sitting there |
| 11:37.15 | johnx | Macer, just like linux: it's a nice experience on hardware that it works well with and a constant battle in all other cases |
| 11:37.24 | Macer | heh |
| 11:37.27 | Macer | it's just a network card |
| 11:37.38 | Macer | and obviously other people have been able to get it working i just have no idea how :) |
| 11:38.03 | johnx | just don't come crying to me when you let software update run and it leaves your machine unbootable |
| 11:38.06 | johnx | :P |
| 11:38.18 | Macer | lol |
| 11:38.22 | Macer | speaking of which......... |
| 11:38.26 | Macer | no i'm not going to do that just yet :) |
| 11:38.28 | Macer | haha |
| 11:39.19 | jeremiah_torp | johnx: Wha? Debian works flawlessly on 8 architectures, 12 if you a willing to use 'unofficial' arches. |
| 11:39.42 | jeremiah_torp | Linux works on more hardware than other toy OSes. :P |
| 11:40.00 | Stskeeps | even netbsd? |
| 11:40.01 | johnx | and hardware that's only supported be creaky proprietary drivers that no one wants to touch still sucks |
| 11:40.24 | johnx | I can guarantee I can find machines that will run more stably in windows than linux |
| 11:40.26 | jeremiah_torp | johnx: That is mostly be design. |
| 11:40.31 | Macer | lol |
| 11:40.35 | jeremiah_torp | s/be/by/ |
| 11:40.35 | johnx | and I don't by that hardware anymore |
| 11:40.43 | johnx | s/by/buy |
| 11:40.44 | Macer | ok. i'm totally at a loss |
| 11:40.48 | Macer | i have no idea how to get this working |
| 11:40.59 | Macer | there is one last thing i can try and just pray it doesn't break the box |
| 11:41.04 | Macer | and if it does fuck it.. i'll go back to win7 |
| 11:41.11 | jeremiah_torp | Macer: Can you use a serial console to see the boot messages from the network card? |
| 11:41.15 | Macer | although. i do think i found out why kubuntu was going so slow |
| 11:41.26 | Macer | jeremiah_torp: boot messages from the network card? :) |
| 11:41.34 | jeremiah_torp | Its Kubuntu? |
| 11:41.35 | Macer | i can look at system.log and see why it's breaking |
| 11:41.36 | Macer | heh |
| 11:41.39 | Macer | no.. osx |
| 11:42.12 | jeremiah_torp | Macer: Yeah, at boot time there are often some messages, at least Broadcom likes to spit out some data which may or may not be useful. |
| 11:42.20 | johnx | sleeps |
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| 11:42.37 | Macer | well.. the only thing i got on this last boot was that it was changing the ktext of teh Yukon2 card |
| 11:42.44 | jeremiah_torp | But I guess since you have the system logs you don't need boot messages. |
| 11:42.44 | Macer | i'm still trying to figure out how to get this damn onboard crap to work |
| 11:42.57 | Macer | although.. i thin i figured out why kubuntu was going so slow |
| 11:43.10 | Macer | the dynamic video stuff wasn't set to "fixed" in the bios :) |
| 11:43.22 | Macer | that sounds like something that would make a video card go slower |
| 11:43.33 | Macer | especially if it wasn't supported properly |
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| 11:57.38 | Macer | ok. think it is time to give up on this |
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| 12:17.19 | RST38h | how are things |
| 12:17.38 | Macer | blah. well. looks like i am stuck with this realtek 100mbit card |
| 12:17.54 | Macer | i can't get this onboard card working |
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| 12:27.22 | troubalex | silence? |
| 12:27.34 | Meiz_n810 | yeah |
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| 12:38.46 | lopz | heya Meiz_n810 ! |
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| 13:01.15 | GnutOnMobile | Hi there |
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| 13:06.13 | rmt | You bought multiple N810's ? |
| 13:06.22 | rmt | And two of them have died? |
| 13:06.30 | ShadowJK | if they are new you still have warranty left? :) |
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| 16:11.11 | n6pfk | Doing a scp of a video file, the N810 reboots before finishing the transfer. Any ideas of what's going wrong? |
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| 16:15.53 | VDVsx | Maemo @ GSoC meeting in about 40min at #maemo-gsoc, everyone is welcome. We will discuss the status of the projects |
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| 16:17.16 | Stskeeps | i guess i'll pitch in, my ideas of maemo world domination goes fine along with the OE project ;) |
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| 16:24.07 | tank-man | n6pfk, no idea, try increasing log level and looking at logs |
| 16:25.07 | n6pfk | How do I increase log levels? |
| 16:25.50 | n6pfk | What log file should look at? |
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| 16:34.21 | Stskeeps | yawns |
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| 17:23.57 | wazd_n800 | I'm baack =) |
| 17:24.37 | wazd_n800 | qwerty12, ing? |
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| 17:25.29 | bobpaul__ | anyone know offhand what size torx you need to disassemble the n800? |
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| 17:35.43 | RST38h | yawns |
| 17:36.51 | RST38h | Done watching Fringe |
| 17:38.05 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 17:38.10 | Stskeeps | season end? |
| 17:38.25 | RST38h | yep |
| 17:39.09 | RST38h | It is kinda fun although does not quite reach SU2 or SCP level of schizophrenia |
| 17:41.45 | Stskeeps | hehe |
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| 17:42.51 | RST38h | The phrase "Can we for once have a *human* perpetrator?" lifted from SU2. |
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| 18:00.49 | jaska | SU2 = ? |
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| 18:02.47 | RST38h | jaska: Special Unit 2, a short lived show similar to Fringe |
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| 18:25.38 | thopiekar | hi |
| 18:27.04 | thopiekar | where will the councill be? "Public Maemo Community Council Meeting" sounds like this will take place anywhere or something like a voip-conference.. |
| 18:27.21 | Stskeeps | irc probably |
| 18:27.43 | thopiekar | the maemo.org site says #maemo-meeting |
| 18:28.05 | thopiekar | but isn't there a better place / platform? |
| 18:28.12 | Stskeeps | nop |
| 18:28.15 | thopiekar | k |
| 18:28.20 | Stskeeps | logged, transcribed, etc in one place |
| 18:28.51 | thopiekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.45 | Stskeeps | UTC is GMT .. with some seconds difference |
| 18:30.49 | ShadowJK | Which isn't the same as BST, which is what the brits are currently on :) |
| 18:31.15 | VDVsx | ShadowJK, BST is GMT+1 now |
| 18:31.40 | ShadowJK | isn't it always? :) |
| 18:31.59 | VDVsx | ShadowJK, not in the summer |
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| 18:32.08 | ShadowJK | what? |
| 18:32.25 | ShadowJK | BST is always GMT+1, surely |
| 18:32.30 | thopiekar | where is germany ? gmt+1? |
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| 18:32.36 | Stskeeps | gmt+2 |
| 18:32.49 | VDVsx | germany is CET |
| 18:33.08 | thopiekar | so the council will be for me at 15:30? |
| 18:33.20 | ShadowJK | VDVsx, germany is CEST |
| 18:33.26 | ShadowJK | in winter it's CET |
| 18:33.46 | thopiekar | summer and wintertime.. |
| 18:34.20 | VDVsx | ShadowJK, sure now is gmt+2 in germany :) |
| 18:35.05 | thopiekar | so i'm right that the council will be at 15:30 at GMT+2[Germany] ? |
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| 18:35.34 | VDVsx | thopiekar, I think so :) |
| 18:35.55 | thopiekar | I lucky that I will not be at school.. |
| 18:36.21 | thopiekar | I'm very interested in this discussion.. |
| 18:37.02 | VDVsx | thopiekar, but you can confirm the time here: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=6&day=8&year=2009&hour=13&min=30&sec=0&p1=0 |
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| 18:37.46 | thopiekar | thanks VDVsx |
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| 18:38.33 | thopiekar | about communication... the very important thing is the style of the talk.maemo.org-forum (itt).. since the merging with maemo.org I'm just confused for the new style.. |
| 18:39.32 | thopiekar | hopely we will talk about that tomorrow.. |
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| 18:39.32 | thopiekar | because I don't think that i'm the only one here.. |
| 18:39.32 | thopiekar | i'm not* |
| 18:39.32 | thopiekar | xD |
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| 19:36.34 | qwerty12_N810 | lbt: http://live.prooo-box.org/de/misc/xray/XrayTool52_en.zip |
| 19:37.01 | qwerty12_N810 | wrong chan, but right person ;) |
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| 19:57.29 | kekegg | I can't make wireless work on Smart Q7, any idea? |
| 19:58.11 | lbt | qwerty12_N810: ta... |
| 19:58.43 | lbt | kekegg: mer ? |
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| 19:59.43 | kekegg | Yes |
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| 20:00.02 | lbt | go to #mer |
| 20:00.06 | lbt | and ask there :) |
| 20:00.12 | kekegg | OK, thanks |
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| 21:34.10 | thopiekar | bbl |
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| 22:12.39 | Macer | i'm wondering if i shoul deven bother still trying to get this gbit nic working |
| 22:13.11 | johnx | you're still working on it? |
| 22:13.19 | Macer | naw. i fell asleep for a while |
| 22:13.27 | Macer | ate... now i'm going to take a shower |
| 22:13.42 | Macer | it really sucks because it is the only thing left to fix :) |
| 22:13.53 | Macer | other than that it's a pretty perfectly working osx install |
| 22:14.26 | johnx | backup, then run a software upgrade |
| 22:14.38 | Macer | i doubt a software upgrade will work |
| 22:14.49 | Macer | well.. at least for the nic |
| 22:14.57 | johnx | ah, that's not what I meant :) |
| 22:15.00 | Macer | even the realtek doesn't work |
| 22:15.07 | johnx | I just wanted to see if it would mess up your machine or not :D |
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| 22:15.20 | Macer | well.. if i can't get this nic working i might go back to win |
| 22:15.27 | Macer | so screw it... lets find out ;) |
| 22:17.59 | Macer | let me back the kernel up at least ;) |
| 22:18.07 | Macer | then i'll upgrade it and see how it goes |
| 22:21.45 | Macer | what's really strange is this linksys card which is a realtek 8169 doesn't seem to want to work either |
| 22:21.53 | Macer | i would accept that..but this 100mbit card is just too slow |
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| 22:59.18 | b-man16 | i have a new host :) http://b-man.psykosis.net wohoo!! |
| 23:07.05 | Jaffa | lo |
| 23:08.06 | lcuk | evening Jaffa |
| 23:08.17 | lcuk | back from your coffee hunt |
| 23:09.34 | Jaffa | yeah |
| 23:09.52 | lcuk | wicked, how was it |
| 23:09.58 | lcuk | and can we expect it on tablets lol |
| 23:10.13 | Jaffa | Trying to resist the urge to buy a MacBook air, which I can ill-afford, from the Apple store down the street |
| 23:10.24 | Jaffa | Last night in SF tonight |
| 23:10.32 | lcuk | yeah, what part of it are you liking? |
| 23:11.09 | lcuk | i suppose thou if you do get it, you will be showing off at the airport |
| 23:11.19 | lcuk | "yes, please scan my lovely new shiny *thin* machine |
| 23:11.36 | lcuk | "sure, ill pull it out of this envelope for you to check" |
| 23:11.54 | Jaffa | Lightweight, good for travelling when I don't want to take my big bulky work laptop |
| 23:12.07 | lcuk | whats the screensize on it? |
| 23:12.35 | Jaffa | Rover's hardly going to be good for further hacking on the move; so get a larger device for that |
| 23:12.36 | lcuk | and it works if you have a case style that suits, if i were just carrying something it would be smaller |
| 23:12.40 | Jaffa | 13", I think |
| 23:13.15 | Jaffa | Just tried finding a Dell Mini 9 to buy cheap, but not many computer stores in central SF, it seems |
| 23:13.15 | lcuk | handheld on the move is good, but i miss computer at the other end |
| 23:13.23 | Jaffa | nods |
| 23:13.45 | lcuk | in cph there were entire metro stations kitted out in dell |
| 23:13.51 | lcuk | wall to wall dell adverts |
| 23:13.53 | Jaffa | Maybe an ARM netbook at some point this year; bujt I want to do some hacking *now* ;-) |
| 23:13.55 | lcuk | it was freaky |
| 23:14.09 | lcuk | yeah we all like hacking on sometihng |
| 23:15.23 | lcuk | liqbase runs so well on the new nokia, when i saw it scroll at cph it was a dream :D |
| 23:15.41 | lcuk | asked a nokian to slow it down |
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| 23:16.08 | parigaudi | hi |
| 23:16.14 | lcuk | Jaffa, so anything interesting actually announced |
| 23:16.18 | lcuk | hi parigaudi |
| 23:16.41 | Jaffa | lcuk: Some stuff from Larry Ellison on Oracle's plans for Sun |
| 23:17.03 | b-man16 | hello, parigaudi |
| 23:17.43 | Jaffa | lcuk: But mostly just lots of interesting stuff, which'd be cool to be able to do on the Nokias; or I just wanna hack on |
| 23:17.47 | lcuk | anything mentioned on the android front, they are pretty much intertwined now arent they |
| 23:19.09 | Jaffa | lcuk: Lots of Google web stuff, but not much Android presence that I saw. More focus on the "standard" JavaME |
| 23:19.37 | lcuk | fair enough, theres certainly plenty of java interest and mostly jobs around for it |
| 23:19.54 | lcuk | any idea whether the next device will support the java instructions |
| 23:19.59 | lcuk | or even if they will exist on the chip |
| 23:20.06 | lcuk | its the sort of q GAN Would answer lol |
| 23:20.14 | Jaffa | I dunno; would be excellent if they did |
| 23:20.23 | lcuk | yeah im thinkin that too |
| 23:20.35 | lcuk | jazelle! |
| 23:20.38 | lcuk | i think lol |
| 23:20.43 | Jaffa | Dev tools are so much better and free |
| 23:20.47 | lcuk | its something we havent really touched on for this device |
| 23:21.00 | lcuk | and what might i ask is wrong with gcc |
| 23:21.04 | Jaffa | lardman tried rev. engineering them |
| 23:21.09 | lcuk | its the autotools which make it tiresome lol |
| 23:21.24 | lcuk | curses more at them |
| 23:21.30 | lcuk | i have a package for the library btw! |
| 23:21.37 | Jaffa | lcuk: I like breakpointing my code, inspecting all the variables and chaning it on the fly *whilst it is running* |
| 23:21.41 | lcuk | and im atm tryiing to squash the app into one as well |
| 23:21.44 | Jaffa | cool! |
| 23:21.55 | lcuk | heh jaffa, thats visual basic |
| 23:21.59 | Jaffa | s/it/the executing code/ |
| 23:22.09 | Jaffa | lcuk: Yeah, but a real lang ;-) |
| 23:22.14 | lcuk | but when i tried it with visual studio . compact |
| 23:22.15 | Jaffa | goes for a wander... |
| 23:22.23 | lcuk | heh ok |
| 23:22.55 | lcuk | you will have to show me proper nice targetted dev on embedded systems one day :) |
| 23:23.03 | lcuk | let us see what we are missing |
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| 23:32.05 | parigaudi | what calendar application is the best for maemo? |
| 23:32.37 | lcuk | liqbase! |
| 23:33.14 | lcuk | parigaudi, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt7qB37sLLo |
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| 23:35.14 | parigaudi | looks cool |
| 23:36.11 | lcuk | yeah and its gonna get better and better :) |
| 23:39.23 | lcuk | parigaudi, theres a whole list of suitable PIM like apps on the maemo wiki |
| 23:39.31 | lcuk | with pros and cons of each |
| 23:40.25 | lcuk | https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:PIM |
| 23:43.27 | parigaudi | ok thx lcuk |