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| 00:13.24 | Bobbe | I know this is not maemo-related, but I'm hoping somebody will have had the same problem here. Is there anything I can do to reduce my wifi latency? |
| 00:13.59 | hub | Bobbe: move closer to the AP? ;-) |
| 00:14.00 | Bobbe | and about geneven, you mean the n900 specs thread? |
| 00:14.28 | Bobbe | I'm 2 feet away from it hub. It feels that there's always a 1-2 second gap before the N800 makes a request and the connection icon lights up |
| 00:14.33 | Bobbe | I dunno |
| 00:14.39 | hub | Bobbe: dude, that was a joke |
| 00:14.48 | Bobbe | hub, lol |
| 00:14.49 | hub | there was a smiley |
| 00:15.08 | Bobbe | my bad, completely missed the smiley |
| 00:15.23 | Bobbe | and it does get a little slower when I'm a few meters away |
| 00:15.28 | Bobbe | but that's not a lot lol |
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| 00:15.48 | Bobbe | I'm guessing it's my crappy router |
| 00:16.18 | Bobbe | but I see these videos of incredibly responsive wifis. Like the guy clicks and it's loading the page already |
| 00:16.31 | Bobbe | I keep looking at that 'connecting' scrollbar coming and going, coming and going |
| 00:16.39 | Bobbe | my E71 doesn't suffer from that |
| 00:16.51 | Bobbe | I connect to it, open a website, bam! |
| 00:16.53 | Bobbe | there |
| 00:17.10 | Bobbe | (by bam! I mean as much bam as I can get with my 2mbps connection) |
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| 01:58.12 | chx | so... |
| 01:58.57 | chx | I have my N810 for just a few days. I go to London Drugs today to buy a blender, the guy in the store points at a Black & Decker, recommending it. I whip out the N810, check Amazon.com it has a single star ... I bought another :p |
| 02:02.44 | GAN800 | Who doesn't love a tablet? |
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| 02:12.05 | chx | GAN800: the guy who tried to sell me a 65 bucks blender and i walked with a 45 bucks one instead? |
| 02:12.16 | GAN800 | Ehehe |
| 02:12.39 | chx | come on, this one ground up almonds |
| 02:13.39 | chx | unless i am ready to shell out 400 usd (the above was cad) for the blendtec total i will be hard pressed to find a better one |
| 02:16.08 | chx | http://www.seriouseats.com/talk/2007/09/need-reccos-for-the-strongest-blender-ever.html read the comments, lol |
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| 02:22.31 | xander21c | Hi |
| 02:23.27 | xander21c | kind of need help with n800 |
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| 02:29.59 | xander21c | anyone there? |
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| 02:44.52 | chx | xander21c: maybe if you would ask your question. |
| 02:45.08 | xander21c | ok |
| 02:45.14 | xander21c | I got a n800 |
| 02:45.42 | xander21c | i will like to make an app start right after i finish booting |
| 02:45.51 | xander21c | up |
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| 02:47.32 | xander21c | chx? |
| 02:49.00 | chx | xander21c: http://tinyurl.com/oqcrvk |
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| 03:05.55 | xander21c | thanks chx kind find a solution |
| 03:06.13 | xander21c | but the table a got does not have /etc/osso-af-init/real-af-base-apps |
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| 05:06.37 | Dantonic | how do I make an app load on startup? |
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| 05:26.01 | Dantonic | how do I make a program load on startup on the n800? |
| 05:27.27 | rm_you | probably with init.d? |
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| 05:28.47 | Dantonic | what's that? |
| 05:30.05 | rm_you | http://www.google.com/search?q=init.d |
| 05:30.25 | rm_you | first two results are fairly useful |
| 05:31.11 | rm_you | short answer: no easy way that I know, besides mucking around with command-line stuff |
| 05:32.53 | zakkm | rm_you: its not that difficult ;p |
| 05:33.39 | zakkm | maemo starts hildon-desktop, and all the hildon stuff, you would just have to know where that file is, and add to it |
| 05:33.56 | rm_you | well, for someone who doesn't know what init.d is, it will seem very complicated :) |
| 05:33.59 | rm_you | I could do it, sure |
| 05:35.00 | zakkm | .. /etc/osso-af-init/real-af-base-apps |
| 05:35.08 | zakkm | not best solution but eh |
| 05:35.49 | zakkm | you shouldnt really turn on/off the tablet.. |
| 05:35.50 | zakkm | though |
| 05:37.30 | Stskeeps | lo rm_you, made it safely home? |
| 05:37.55 | zakkm | Stskeeps: did it finish? |
| 05:39.03 | Stskeeps | did what? weekend finished sunday |
| 05:39.10 | zakkm | oh |
| 05:39.21 | zakkm | was it fun? |
| 05:39.33 | zakkm | worth attending |
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| 05:40.33 | Stskeeps | of course |
| 05:40.44 | thux | morning |
| 05:41.13 | RXrenesis8 | "zakkm: you shouldnt really turn on/off the tablet.." Please elaborate, if you wouldn't mind. |
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| 05:41.48 | zakkm | RXrenesis8: the battery life, its not worth it to turn it off.. it takes alot of power to turn it off and on.. then leave it on for several days |
| 05:42.21 | Stskeeps | a boot takes a lot of battery |
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| 05:42.49 | Stskeeps | leaving it locked, backlight off is a lot better |
| 05:43.16 | zakkm | Stskeeps: one day i got my nokia confiscated in school.. for 5 days.. it didnt lower in % of battery the whole time lol |
| 05:43.34 | zakkm | well i didnt have advanced battery.. but yeah |
| 05:43.48 | rm_you | Stskeeps: ya |
| 05:43.54 | rm_you | and collapsing now :P |
| 05:43.59 | rm_you | sleeps |
| 05:44.20 | RXrenesis8 | zakkm: good stuff, I thought you might've been implying something more ominous, thanks. :P |
| 05:44.53 | zakkm | waste of time? :P |
| 05:44.58 | zakkm | hah |
| 05:46.22 | Dantonic | where is init.d located? |
| 05:46.50 | zakkm | ... /etc |
| 05:47.10 | Dantonic | k |
| 05:48.06 | Dantonic | so it's a folder. what do i do with it? |
| 05:48.24 | Dantonic | edit one of the files? |
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| 05:48.43 | zakkm | Dantonic: you shouldnt really restart the tablet, adding to startup wouldnt help so much |
| 05:48.50 | zakkm | init.d is all the startup stuff |
| 05:49.02 | zakkm | so you'd have to find the right file for exact spot you want it to startup |
| 05:49.07 | zakkm | and add it to the line of the file |
| 05:50.05 | Dantonic | it happens at times that the system crashes and reboots. i need it to start xchat when that happens. ie if it happens while i'm sleeping. it's rare, but still |
| 05:50.38 | zakkm | you could add it to /etc/osso-af-init/real-af-base-apps |
| 05:50.53 | zakkm | system crashes and reboots? a reflash might be in order |
| 05:50.57 | zakkm | it shouldnt crash and often |
| 05:52.14 | Dantonic | not often, but sometimes. not sure i think its due to xchat and backlight or advanced battery |
| 06:00.46 | Dantonic | zakkm, i don't have that file. can you give me an idea of how init.d works? |
| 06:01.18 | zakkm | you know how booting works? |
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| 06:03.39 | Dantonic | not sure what i need to know about it. if i add a file called xchat, and add a command line to execute it will that work? |
| 06:04.03 | Dantonic | I'm not sure how booting works |
| 06:04.21 | zakkm | no |
| 06:04.30 | zakkm | each init.d file starts at different times / some may not start at all |
| 06:04.38 | zakkm | go here |
| 06:04.42 | zakkm | to /etc/osso-af-init/real-af-base-apps  |
| 06:04.47 | zakkm | and add xchat in a new line at the bottom |
| 06:04.50 | zakkm | that would work |
| 06:05.56 | Dantonic | i don't have osso-af-init/ |
| 06:06.40 | zakkm | hm |
| 06:06.48 | zakkm | maybe your stuk in init.d then |
| 06:06.53 | zakkm | its been awhile since ive used debian |
| 06:06.57 | Dantonic | etc has no dirs or files w/ that name |
| 06:07.07 | Dantonic | hmm |
| 06:08.41 | Dantonic | wait i'm an idiot :P |
| 06:10.46 | Dantonic | zakkm, ok opened it. that's ugly, where do i add it? |
| 06:10.54 | zakkm | heh |
| 06:10.59 | zakkm | bottom-ish line |
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| 06:11.04 | zakkm | what do you see there |
| 06:11.14 | zakkm | Dantonic: ^ |
| 06:12.39 | Dantonic | stuff like if [ -f /tmp/run-osso-backup-finish-restore ]; then |
| 06:12.52 | zakkm | eek |
| 06:13.02 | zakkm | maybe i should try openingit |
| 06:13.03 | Dantonic | bunch of if statements |
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| 06:15.02 | zakkm | Dantonic: try adding xchat to last line |
| 06:15.04 | zakkm | like as a new line |
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| 06:15.47 | Dantonic | just 'xchat' right? |
| 06:16.22 | zakkm | yeah |
| 06:16.41 | zakkm | yeah maybe hildon-desktop if that didnt do that |
| 06:17.48 | Dantonic | crap won't let me edit it from notes |
| 06:18.06 | zakkm | oh yeah you'd need root |
| 06:18.19 | Dantonic | i guess i need to do it from command line? |
| 06:18.55 | Dantonic | idk how to do that :( |
| 06:18.55 | zakkm | uh |
| 06:19.05 | zakkm | osso-notes real-af-base-apps |
| 06:19.08 | zakkm | ohh |
| 06:19.10 | zakkm | root first |
| 06:19.24 | Dantonic | ok |
| 06:20.01 | zakkm | you know how to do root? |
| 06:20.28 | Dantonic | ya i'm there but how do i edit the file? gedit? |
| 06:20.35 | zakkm | gedit? |
| 06:20.42 | zakkm | what do you think this is, ;p |
| 06:20.47 | zakkm | theres no gedit on the tablet |
| 06:20.59 | Dantonic | lol ya figured |
| 06:21.03 | zakkm | your used to writting gedit |
| 06:21.08 | zakkm | okay instead of gedit put osso-notes |
| 06:21.11 | Dantonic | so how? |
| 06:21.16 | Dantonic | oh |
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| 06:21.30 | zakkm | same way should work.. just swap those two |
| 06:21.36 | Dantonic | i'm linux noob ;; |
| 06:21.52 | zakkm | :) |
| 06:22.16 | zakkm | you like gedit? |
| 06:22.41 | zakkm | alot of ppl tend to use leafpad, it runs fast on the tablet |
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| 06:24.17 | Dantonic | /bin/sh: osso-notes: not found |
| 06:24.29 | Dantonic | leafpad gives an error too |
| 06:24.34 | zakkm | dang |
| 06:24.38 | zakkm | do you have leafpad installed? |
| 06:24.43 | Dantonic | ya |
| 06:25.05 | zakkm | dang |
| 06:25.36 | zakkm | start fine for me from terminal? |
| 06:26.09 | Dantonic | process 2143: D-Bus library appears to be incorrectly set up; |
| 06:26.12 | Dantonic | etc |
| 06:26.23 | zakkm | ohh |
| 06:26.27 | zakkm | osso_notes not osso-notes |
| 06:26.29 | Dantonic | starts from menj |
| 06:26.41 | zakkm | wait what tablet version are you using? |
| 06:26.47 | zakkm | what tablet do you have |
| 06:26.52 | Dantonic | no that was for leafpad but let me try notes |
| 06:26.59 | Dantonic | n800 |
| 06:27.01 | zakkm | still that shouldnt happen |
| 06:27.15 | zakkm | what version of OS? |
| 06:27.34 | zakkm | in terminal it should be like busybox v_._._ ( DATE ) |
| 06:27.36 | zakkm | whats the date |
| 06:27.58 | Dantonic | notes opened but it's blanl |
| 06:28.03 | Dantonic | blank |
| 06:28.16 | zakkm | did you do osso_notes rf-base-apps w.e |
| 06:28.24 | Dantonic | ya |
| 06:28.35 | zakkm | what date is on busybox? |
| 06:28.41 | Dantonic | /etc/osso-af-init # osso_notes real-af-base-apps |
| 06:28.50 | Dantonic | busybox? |
| 06:28.59 | zakkm | open a new terminal |
| 06:29.00 | Dantonic | how do i check? |
| 06:29.03 | zakkm | at top |
| 06:29.13 | zakkm | it should be like busybox v1.6.1( date ) |
| 06:29.39 | Dantonic | BusyBox v1.6.1 (2008-09-18 09:43:17 EEST) Built-in shell (ash) |
| 06:29.46 | zakkm | oh okay your up to date |
| 06:30.08 | zakkm | thats weird, you shouldnt be getting a dbus error |
| 06:30.20 | Dantonic | hmm |
| 06:30.36 | Dantonic | idk |
| 06:31.14 | Dantonic | well no worries man, i'll try some more |
| 06:31.25 | Dantonic | thanks for your help |
| 06:31.32 | zakkm | you could use vi? |
| 06:31.39 | zakkm | that would defintely work, ive tried that |
| 06:31.50 | zakkm | here what am i thinking ill add xchat and reboot myself |
| 06:32.06 | Dantonic | ew vi i tried but-cant find a good list of commands |
| 06:32.22 | zakkm | ill see if adding xchat there is the solution |
| 06:32.30 | Dantonic | ok |
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| 06:34.21 | zakkm | Dantonic: rebooting |
| 06:34.23 | Dantonic | k |
| 06:34.41 | zakkm | theres two places, ive tried one |
| 06:34.57 | zakkm | i should document this aftewards, for future purposes hah |
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| 06:35.24 | Davide | <=== Dantonic |
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| 06:35.37 | Davide | so did it work? |
| 06:35.39 | Davide | zakkm? |
| 06:35.42 | zakkm | Davide: hehh i just crashed everything but xchat opened up |
| 06:35.43 | zakkm | :D |
| 06:35.49 | Davide | LOL |
| 06:35.59 | Davide | so where did you add it? |
| 06:36.01 | zakkm | like just xchat, i should of added a if |
| 06:36.29 | zakkm | lol dont add it |
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| 06:37.09 | Davide | haha |
| 06:37.10 | zakkm | going to fix my nokia and try again |
| 06:37.13 | Davide | ok |
| 06:37.23 | Davide | you should write a guide for this on the forums :) |
| 06:41.11 | zakkm | Davide: sorry man having trouble repairing my memo |
| 06:41.12 | zakkm | maemo* |
| 06:41.23 | zakkm | better i did this than you hah |
| 06:41.24 | Davide | no problem dude |
| 06:41.29 | Davide | LOL I'm sorry |
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| 06:41.32 | Davide | hope it's not messed up |
| 06:43.19 | zakkm | wish i was better at helping :( |
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| 06:44.53 | Davide | nah man thats fine... |
| 06:45.11 | Davide | I was just wondering... I mean it shouldn't be too tough you'd think... |
| 06:45.17 | Davide | just to have an app start... |
| 06:45.23 | zakkm | yeah its just a matter of the right spot |
| 06:45.26 | zakkm | in the right file |
| 06:45.28 | Davide | how are the applets made to start? |
| 06:45.47 | Davide | Maybe I'll ask the question in the forums |
| 06:45.47 | zakkm | i added to the wrong file |
| 06:45.59 | Davide | Not sure how you figure what the wrong or right file is |
| 06:46.09 | Davide | for example what does each file do? |
| 06:46.13 | Davide | I dont get it |
| 06:46.34 | zakkm | each get started at a different time |
| 06:46.36 | zakkm | in a certain order |
| 06:46.50 | zakkm | i screwed up cause i put xchat in the wrong order |
| 06:47.19 | zakkm | so xchat started up.. and it stopped there |
| 06:47.24 | zakkm | all the rest of the scripts |
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| 06:49.00 | Davide | ah |
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| 07:23.01 | zakkm | Davide: sweet im back in, you still here? |
| 07:23.11 | Davide | ya |
| 07:23.25 | zakkm | that took along time to repair |
| 07:24.31 | zakkm | i really dont think i can figure it out, i dont know much about the ins and outs of maemo, but honestly like uhh say 12 hours from now, if thats late for you then maybe about 18 hours or so |
| 07:24.44 | zakkm | Davide: ask the question here again, someone would know the right file |
| 07:25.10 | Dantonic | ok man ty |
| 07:25.48 | zakkm | i can keep trying each one if you want, but to honest if you can wait, i would say wait |
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| 07:29.14 | Davide | ya I'm gonna wait cause I"m brushing my teeth to go to bed :) |
| 07:29.16 | Davide | so np |
| 07:29.17 | Davide | thanks man |
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| 08:17.39 | mib_qctj5w | how to debug the .so format file? |
| 08:18.07 | mib_qctj5w | the package is a plugin. |
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| 08:34.04 | mgedmin | mib_qctj5w: I seem to remember seeing a wiki page about debugging Hildon plugins (statusbar/home applets) |
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| 08:34.17 | RST38h | moo all |
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| 08:45.04 | RST38h | ehlo wazd |
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| 08:52.08 | Meizirkki | Whoever the "Android for Ubuntu" developer is, he's annoying. He's continuously showing off some androin on top of Ubuntu, but not putting up a nodumentation :( |
| 08:52.34 | Meizirkki | s/nodo/a do/ |
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| 09:30.40 | RST38h | Anyone has got a GrandCentral invite? |
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| 09:44.28 | florian | good morning |
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| 09:58.53 | Stskeeps | "gotten a hold of DigiCube's just unveiled MIDPhone-50 at Computex, and we have to say that from the looks of it, it's quite a wild affair. The MIDPhone-50 is a Windows XP, full QWERTY-boasting, touchscreen mid, and a 3.5G mobile phone to boot. The tilting, 800 x 480 touchscreen is 4.5-inches, with mini-USB, standard USB, and microSD slots, plus a docking station with VGA output. Specwise, the phone / MID has an Intel Atom Z-series CPU with up to 1GB ... |
| 09:59.00 | Stskeeps | ... of RAM, with Bluetooth and WiFi. The battery supposedly gets a quite sad two hours of life. |
| 09:59.03 | Stskeeps | i love the last sentence. |
| 09:59.28 | amr | lol |
| 09:59.41 | RST38h | I do not understand why it does not fold up like a netbook =) |
| 09:59.54 | Stskeeps | who the fuck would use this thing as a phon.. |
| 09:59.55 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 10:00.10 | RST38h | Ballmer? |
| 10:00.40 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps: http://handcellphone.com/wp-content/themes/green-marinee/phonepic/Samsung-SPH-P9000-run-windows-xp-cell-phone-1.jpg *grin* - always a favourite |
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| 10:13.37 | lcuk | qwerty12, thats like a decepticon |
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| 10:15.47 | jukey | wuha... what's going on with http://maemo.org ? |
| 10:15.58 | jukey | i get tonns of errors |
| 10:17.12 | mikkov_ | it's broken, but now it's fast :) |
| 10:17.54 | X-Fade | wtf! |
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| 10:24.29 | wiza | damn, trapster.com doesn't support internet tablet :( |
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| 10:40.06 | jeremiah_ | http://maemo.org seems to be working for me . . . |
| 10:40.30 | X-Fade | Yeah, good that we have a cluster. |
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| 10:40.54 | X-Fade | I've shut down the ones with a dead disk. |
| 10:42.02 | jeremiah_ | aha, the old dead disk. |
| 10:42.06 | jeremiah_ | Yuck |
| 10:42.42 | amr | the shareware copy of quake2 |
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| 10:42.48 | amr | what do i need to do to make it into the full game? |
| 10:42.50 | amr | i own it, obv |
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| 10:43.17 | lardman | morning all |
| 10:56.26 | Stskeeps | amr: maybe copy the data files? dunno |
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| 11:15.09 | X-Fade | Ok, affected hosts have been moved to non broken hardware. Website problem solved. |
| 11:16.24 | X-Fade | Internal mmc of the tablets had bad blocks :) |
| 11:18.24 | Stskeeps | WSOD'ed 770? ;) |
| 11:18.47 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: Nah, I was thinking about the partition size problem ;) |
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| 11:25.40 | lbt | X-Fade... was the wiki style changed just recently? visited links going to grey? |
| 11:25.57 | X-Fade | lbt: that is a global change, yes. |
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| 11:26.57 | lbt | ah... FWIW I find them slightly harder to read and see than the normal text... whereas I'd like them slightly more higlighted... just some feedback |
| 11:29.34 | X-Fade | Yeah, not sure what to use there. |
| 11:30.58 | lbt | here's a test-case page where I used an inline-link style.... http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build |
| 11:31.52 | lbt | do you need to differentiate visited ? |
| 11:32.18 | lbt | maybe the darker orange? |
| 11:32.22 | X-Fade | lbt: Yes, as that gives the user more information about what he has seen already. |
| 11:32.47 | lbt | fair... maybe orange from the top of the 'GO' vs the bottom of the 'GO' |
| 11:33.00 | lbt | too subtle? |
| 11:33.18 | lbt | anyhow... I trust you... I'll get back to writing ;) |
| 11:33.48 | X-Fade | Maybe we would need somebody who is colorblind to tell us this. As grey on grey isn't the best either. |
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| 12:11.31 | lcuk | X-Fade, view webpages on the n810 in the sunlight - the color washes out to leave a virtual b&w image, if the difference is visible there it should be visible at other times |
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| 12:25.27 | lardman | cu chaps, back in a fortnight |
| 12:25.28 | lardman | :) |
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| 12:45.40 | minra | the n810 is tremendous. since my thinkpad broke, im using it constantly |
| 12:45.54 | minra | the main problem is these evil websites |
| 12:46.16 | X-Fade | minra: Don't visit evil websites :) |
| 12:46.23 | amr | i love my n810 |
| 12:46.28 | amr | im actually playing sonic advance on it right now :) |
| 12:46.39 | minra | vbga? |
| 12:47.14 | minra | hard to avoid X-Fade - many news sites have like 150+ "elements" |
| 12:47.21 | amr | yeah, cgba |
| 12:47.24 | amr | vgba |
| 12:47.57 | rmt | I really think that a controller box for it would be great.. |
| 12:47.59 | minra | vgba rules, but the snes rpgs are much better |
| 12:48.13 | amr | oh? i havent tried any snes games yet |
| 12:48.25 | rmt | But I think if I want a real Linux based gaming handheld, I'd go for OpenPandora |
| 12:48.30 | minra | we dont have a decent snes emu yet |
| 12:48.57 | minra | if you could get one ordered and delivered |
| 12:49.03 | Macer | hm. anybody here use osx on normal pc hardware? |
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| 12:50.28 | minra | also RST38h consider WASD as an alternate to dpad |
| 12:50.42 | amr | smart thinkin |
| 12:50.46 | amr | i liket he default SDL quake controls |
| 12:50.47 | minra | oe qweasdzxc |
| 12:51.07 | minra | or |
| 12:51.39 | minra | mhm |
| 12:51.53 | minra | want to work on an emu? |
| 12:53.04 | amr | what's the button for 'select' in VGBA? |
| 12:53.17 | minra | forgot |
| 12:53.26 | amr | hm |
| 12:53.27 | amr | o well |
| 12:55.39 | wazd | leaked photo of the new tablet http://s61.radikal.ru/i174/0906/b6/cf9bf5f77703.jpg |
| 12:56.53 | mgedmin | I hope the from/to/subject fields scroll up |
| 12:58.27 | minra | attractive design. will sell. |
| 12:59.02 | minra | and i see the improved dpad ;) |
| 13:00.12 | aquatix | lol |
| 13:00.33 | aquatix | no navigational buttons at all :/ |
| 13:00.35 | mgedmin | they've improved the design |
| 13:00.36 | mgedmin | the best design is the one where you cannot take anything away |
| 13:00.50 | minra | wasd ftw |
| 13:01.17 | mgedmin | hjkl! |
| 13:01.19 | X-Fade | wazd: You forgot the symbol and fn and cursor keys :) |
| 13:01.27 | aquatix | minra: tried Tear browser? |
| 13:01.40 | mgedmin | now having . and , on the same key makes me unhappy |
| 13:01.49 | minra | plus the reduced size makes it mentally fit into the phone category |
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| 13:02.22 | X-Fade | minra: Oh yeah? Where is the speaker you hold your ear onto? :) |
| 13:02.26 | minra | aquarius-, tear is useless for me cause i cant copy/paste to/from it |
| 13:02.37 | minra | on the side i bet |
| 13:02.43 | aquatix | minra: yeah, that sucks indeed |
| 13:02.46 | aquatix | have the same issue |
| 13:02.55 | aquatix | but it rocks for browsing in general |
| 13:02.58 | aquatix | a lot better than microb |
| 13:03.16 | zap | that's horrible, can't buy a N810 neither in Moscow or in St. Petersburg. Is it out of production already? |
| 13:03.17 | aquatix | if they fix copy/pasting and editing bookmarks, i'm all set |
| 13:03.19 | minra | mmm. most of my browsing takes links from irc |
| 13:03.37 | minra | and copies links to irc |
| 13:03.47 | minra | who is the tear guru? |
| 13:04.45 | wazd | x-fade: well, I can't find Fn button here :) http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/05/nokiarover-1.jpg |
| 13:04.52 | wazd | x-fade: let's add some drama |
| 13:05.28 | X-Fade | wazd: I'm sure it is on there :) |
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| 13:05.43 | wazd | X-Fade: can you see it?) |
| 13:05.45 | X-Fade | The symbol key too btw. |
| 13:06.39 | wazd | that's why I think that this is all fake :) |
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| 13:07.25 | X-Fade | wazd: But nice drawing. Very nice.. |
| 13:08.11 | X-Fade | wazd: You forgot the light sensor too btw. |
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| 13:10.39 | VDVsx | wazd, post the image on tmo, hiihihihi |
| 13:11.58 | aquatix | :) |
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| 13:14.30 | wazd | http://s49.radikal.ru/i123/0906/90/9a0aafc5337e.jpg <- Oh my god it's a phone!11 |
| 13:15.11 | X-Fade | wazd: Lol :) |
| 13:16.06 | GeneralAntilles | minra, Wiimote |
| 13:16.50 | minra | not for me. i want to hold game device in front of my face |
| 13:16.59 | minra | not set it on a desk |
| 13:17.00 | GeneralAntilles | Hehe . . . modest@maemo.org |
| 13:17.14 | GeneralAntilles | minra, both can be used one-handed. |
| 13:17.28 | GeneralAntilles | Wiimote in right, tablet in left. |
| 13:18.12 | minra | um, thanks |
| 13:18.49 | GeneralAntilles | minra, I've got a friend who does it on the bus that way. |
| 13:19.14 | minra | hehe |
| 13:22.53 | lbt | wazd... add a faint reflection of a bod holding a camera to the gloss... |
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| 13:23.27 | wazd | lbt: well, it's "press" shot :) |
| 13:24.03 | wazd | http://nds3.nokia.com/pressphotos/public/global/devices/n810/N810WiMAX3_Lowres.jpg <- like that for example |
| 13:24.39 | lbt | did you render it? |
| 13:25.00 | lbt | it's a nice piccy |
| 13:28.55 | wazd | http://s45.radikal.ru/i108/0906/59/dd9ed10b0fd1.jpg |
| 13:29.02 | roope | seems like people have way too much time on their hands. |
| 13:29.09 | wazd | featuring OMWeather :) |
| 13:29.32 | VDVsx | wazd, sweet :P |
| 13:30.29 | Macer | http://www.osnews.com/story/21564/Building_a_Hackintosh_Apple_Can_t_Sue_You_For |
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| 13:30.50 | Macer | hm. i wonder if you can sell PCs with that installed without getting sued |
| 13:31.48 | lcuk | the bitch about mockups comes when the designer realises the mockup is better than the realthing ;) |
| 13:31.48 | lbt | wazd: install Mer |
| 13:32.42 | lcuk | wazd, your mockup doesnt include the holo projector we were promised on page 384543753745 of the thread on itt |
| 13:33.04 | Macer | hahahha |
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| 13:33.13 | lbt | heh... where does the dpad go? |
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| 13:34.34 | lcuk | yeah lbt, im sure there were more keys when we saw them at weekend, i think the other massive thread mentions em too |
| 13:35.03 | Macer | massive is such a strong word :) |
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| 13:35.17 | lcuk | perhaps at this rate nokia are having a sweepstakes with the manufacturer and the number of keys is chosen at random :D |
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| 13:35.41 | Macer | it is going to have voice capability correct? |
| 13:35.44 | aquatix | wazd: those software shots in that mockup, are those real? |
| 13:35.47 | lcuk | macer, my finger gets tired and i lose the will to live after about 200 pages |
| 13:36.08 | Macer | lcuk: best to just give up on the other 199 pages and just focus on the latest ;) |
| 13:36.12 | lcuk | macer, dunno havent seen or heard anything |
| 13:36.17 | wazd | aquatix: well, last one isn't but we're working on it :) |
| 13:36.25 | lcuk | i just read viaspy page anyway |
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| 13:36.53 | aquatix | wazd: nice :) |
| 13:36.57 | Macer | only windows would make the shortcut keys for printing alt+R |
| 13:37.02 | aquatix | i still miss some keys though |
| 13:37.12 | aquatix | Macer: alt... R?! |
| 13:37.28 | lcuk | yeah alt-p is used for viewing help files |
| 13:37.29 | Macer | aquatix: yeah :) |
| 13:37.37 | Macer | that makes no sense |
| 13:37.50 | mgedmin | 8-() |
| 13:37.51 | Macer | haha |
| 13:38.02 | lcuk | well they had to do that cos f1 is used for moving to previous page |
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| 13:38.02 | aquatix | what does ctrl+p do? |
| 13:38.12 | aquatix | lcuk: :) |
| 13:38.14 | lcuk | leaves a puddle under your monitor |
| 13:38.31 | aquatix | oh duh |
| 13:38.41 | Macer | hah.. i don't know. i was looking at the popup that pops up from the mouse hover over the print button |
| 13:38.42 | andrewfblack | Hello |
| 13:38.46 | lcuk | oh, sorry i mustv lost control |
| 13:38.58 | lcuk | ctrl p doesnt do anything |
| 13:38.59 | aquatix | Macer: the fuck? |
| 13:38.59 | lcuk | lol |
| 13:39.01 | Macer | and it said "Print ... ALT+R" |
| 13:39.15 | Macer | i was like... alt+r? wtf? |
| 13:39.16 | aquatix | oh, the alt text |
| 13:39.21 | lcuk | r being the next available letter |
| 13:39.29 | lcuk | you need an underscore somewhere in the label |
| 13:39.36 | Macer | lcuk: i think they just threw darts at a keyboard |
| 13:39.40 | lcuk | the p will have been wired to something else |
| 13:39.52 | Macer | wasn't help always F1? |
| 13:40.20 | lcuk | it was until it escaped |
| 13:40.22 | Macer | or is MS eliminating function keys in order to sell cheaper MS ergo keyboards that use less plastic since there are no need for keys |
| 13:41.05 | lcuk | macer, what was help before f1 |
| 13:42.44 | Macer | lcuk: don't remember |
| 13:42.59 | Macer | maybe something like alt+h? |
| 13:43.02 | Macer | haha |
| 13:43.09 | Macer | and printing was alt+p |
| 13:43.27 | lcuk | you sure its not alt-e |
| 13:44.26 | Macer | who knows :) i'm going to try this leopard install onto this shuttle anyways |
| 13:44.34 | Macer | i think i hate win7 more than osx |
| 13:44.48 | Macer | and debian doesn't run too well on it.. i thnk the video card is a little screwy in linux |
| 13:45.00 | lcuk | install visual studio.not on it and make the love in complete |
| 13:45.01 | Macer | you see disgusting things happening when it redraws things |
| 13:45.32 | Macer | win7 isn't too bad though |
| 13:45.59 | Macer | i really can't believe they didn't make their own virtual desktop thing though . to have multiple desktops |
| 13:46.04 | Macer | they are falling behind the curve |
| 13:46.13 | aquatix | Macer: help used to be F3 |
| 13:46.26 | Macer | but then again. i guess releasing vista... they probably took a baseball bat to the teeth while turning the corner |
| 13:46.28 | aquatix | at least in wordperfect it was |
| 13:47.03 | Macer | aquatix: wp wasn't standard ms stuff |
| 13:47.11 | aquatix | i didn't say that |
| 13:47.33 | Macer | well. i'm just saying. it wasn't an ms product so they probably made the keys different so people couldn't easily switch to word :) |
| 13:47.40 | aquatix | but i didn't know you where talking about just ms stuff :) |
| 13:47.53 | Macer | yeah well. i just noticed it in ie8 |
| 13:47.57 | aquatix | word didn't exist back then |
| 13:48.13 | Macer | sure it did :) word was around in the 3.1 era |
| 13:48.19 | aquatix | yeah |
| 13:48.26 | aquatix | win 3.11 didn't exist back then :) |
| 13:48.46 | aquatix | wp was DOS you know :) |
| 13:49.03 | Macer | Richard Brodie renamed it Microsoft Word, and Microsoft released the program October 25, 1983, for the IBM PC |
| 13:50.53 | aquatix | Ashton and Bastian started Satellite Systems International (SSI) to sell WordPerfect in 1980 |
| 13:50.56 | aquatix | :) |
| 13:50.59 | aquatix | but point taken |
| 13:51.09 | amr | does anyone here develop for maemo on a windows pc |
| 13:51.10 | amr | ? |
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| 13:51.14 | amr | like through visualisation |
| 13:51.27 | aquatix | i guess the 1983 Word didn't have the windows shortcut standard though |
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| 13:53.06 | GAN800 | amr, yes, a few do with VMWare. |
| 13:53.54 | aquatix | *g* @ ``For example, in Word for MS-DOS, a file would be saved with the sequence Escape-T-S: pressing Escape called up the menu box, T accessed the set of options for Transfer and S was for Save'' |
| 13:54.23 | aquatix | those where the days |
| 13:55.02 | liri | oh those old days |
| 13:55.19 | liri | I used to ran a BBS |
| 13:55.47 | Macer | heh i did too |
| 13:55.59 | liri | I remember when windows 95 was out and my friends were all 'cite about it. multi-tasking then was "heaven" (for them) and I refused to install it |
| 13:56.12 | liri | I had dos multi-tasking done with qemu, they were shocked :) |
| 13:56.13 | Macer | i used to run roboboard/FX before it got gay and turned into something else that totally sucked |
| 13:56.24 | Macer | desqview ftw :) |
| 13:56.34 | liri | desqview yeah |
| 13:56.53 | minra | doubledos ;) |
| 13:57.02 | liri | I ran RA (remote access) and most of the other BBSs were running the other one (forgot the name) |
| 13:57.09 | liri | it was also a popular one, one word |
| 13:57.12 | Macer | iniquity? |
| 13:57.15 | liri | nop |
| 13:57.21 | dneary | hi all |
| 13:57.31 | Macer | damn. i know what you're talking about and it's at the tip of my tongue :) |
| 13:57.38 | liri | heh yeah |
| 13:57.41 | Macer | the l33t hacker one |
| 13:57.43 | Macer | haha |
| 13:57.45 | liri | Gibson or Pibson or whatever |
| 13:57.50 | liri | something with a P I think |
| 13:57.52 | Macer | argh! |
| 13:57.55 | liri | PowerBBS? |
| 13:57.56 | liri | no |
| 13:57.58 | Macer | no |
| 13:58.16 | liri | shjit |
| 13:58.19 | Macer | i know |
| 13:58.19 | Macer | haha |
| 13:58.27 | liri | now I'm all obssesed with it and I' have to google it until I find the answer |
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| 13:58.29 | liri | what?! |
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| 13:59.18 | Macer | PCBoard |
| 13:59.19 | Macer | ? |
| 13:59.24 | liri | uhmm no |
| 13:59.37 | Macer | :) |
| 13:59.39 | Macer | Renegade? |
| 13:59.46 | Macer | that was used a lot since it was easy to set up |
| 14:00.00 | liri | I found http://www.dmine.com/bbscorner/software.htm |
| 14:00.17 | liri | I'm not seeing anything else there with a p |
| 14:00.20 | liri | I think maybe it was PCBoard |
| 14:00.33 | Macer | well.. pcboard was another big one too |
| 14:00.53 | liri | man.. I miss those days |
| 14:01.19 | liri | I was writing pascal plugins for RA with backdoors to give me 65535 rate for my user |
| 14:01.20 | liri | lol |
| 14:01.33 | Macer | i wouldn't mind running a bbs on my server it it had an ssh frontend to it |
| 14:01.47 | liri | here's the best part - I have made a backup of the bbs and I have it on a 650mb CD :) |
| 14:01.48 | Macer | telnet is too 1970s |
| 14:01.57 | Macer | haha |
| 14:01.58 | liri | yeah |
| 14:02.12 | Macer | but i suppose nowadays a bbs is a web site huh? |
| 14:02.16 | Macer | just isn't the same :) |
| 14:02.17 | liri | Page the Sysop is todays' IM :) |
| 14:02.44 | liri | we should start our own bbs underground network hehe |
| 14:02.49 | liri | with actual 36k modems |
| 14:02.52 | Macer | lol |
| 14:03.01 | Macer | no thanks . i wouldn't mind running one if it used ssh |
| 14:03.12 | liri | man... that 28800 connection was so fast then |
| 14:03.15 | Macer | i'm sure there is a way to tunnel it but i'd love to have something that did it for you |
| 14:03.36 | Macer | with zmodem xfering :) |
| 14:03.39 | Macer | fuck it.. xmodem |
| 14:04.03 | liri | pff |
| 14:04.09 | liri | needs a time machine |
| 14:05.31 | Macer | haha... ah well. no point in looking upon the past and wishing it still was :) |
| 14:05.45 | Macer | although doing stuff like that was a lot more fun than all this boring new shit |
| 14:07.55 | Macer | i hope this shuttle can run osx |
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| 14:45.28 | rzr__ | hi |
| 14:45.37 | rzr__ | will n900 support ofono http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=293687#post293687 ? |
| 14:46.01 | stskeeps_ | who knows |
| 14:46.07 | stskeeps_ | we don't even know what n900 is :) |
| 14:46.31 | X-Fade | or how mature ofono is ;) |
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| 14:48.12 | X-Fade | A framework alone doesn't turn a tablet into a phone. Even if it had gsm capabilities. |
| 14:48.48 | X-Fade | Think of the amount of apps you need for phonebook, ringtones, SMS, MMS etc. |
| 14:49.15 | stskeeps_ | yeah.. look at freerunner |
| 14:49.15 | stskeeps_ | :P |
| 14:50.43 | X-Fade | Look at the enormous amount of work that goes into the email client alone. I'd guess the other apps are about the same complexity. |
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| 15:04.24 | wazd | has found that he already tried to draw n900 time ago) |
| 15:05.04 | wazd | http://s50.radikal.ru/i128/0906/8b/c49d9499ee5c.jpg |
| 15:05.58 | stskeeps_ | i really have doubts if there would be buttons on the sides |
| 15:06.41 | wazd | stskeeps_: well, that's really old mockup :) But I still like it :) |
| 15:08.01 | wazd | looks like mobilecrunch has the right feeling bout keyboard layout |
| 15:08.10 | wazd | http://cache0.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/cp_1243218926_picture-4-630x485-215x165.png |
| 15:09.45 | stskeeps_ | on the other hand, if you compare a n810 and that, it's really not that different |
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| 15:17.17 | wazd | the only question I have is what looser has spent so much time to render that http://media.cellpassion.com/post/1475/lowres_nokrover.JPG and made a keyboard without Fn :D |
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| 15:18.10 | wazd | I wish I had his ability to model and render :( |
| 15:18.11 | stskeeps_ | it might be far left |
| 15:18.21 | wazd | stskeeps_: there's shift |
| 15:18.22 | stskeeps_ | zxc |
| 15:18.23 | stskeeps_ | ah |
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| 15:18.34 | stskeeps_ | either way, i love the keyboard and i want one |
| 15:18.36 | stskeeps_ | :P |
| 15:19.18 | wazd | have to lock myself in a room and learn modelling |
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| 15:53.10 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 15:53.14 | stskeeps_ | morning jaffa |
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| 15:58.36 | wazd | jaffa: heya |
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| 16:26.49 | GAN800 | Jaffa, GTFO. |
| 16:28.09 | stskeeps_ | O-o |
| 16:28.14 | luke-jr | LOL |
| 16:34.19 | minra | http://forum.openhandhelds.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&p=14799&sid=297b7c07b11d37b0e2952d0407398181#p14799 |
| 16:34.26 | minra | dosbox optimization |
| 16:36.38 | GAN800 | :p |
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| 16:40.44 | stskeeps_ | notes he really needs better scrum tools |
| 16:43.11 | stskeeps_ | andre__: re #3858 i said was fixed in fremantle beta? |
| 16:45.31 | andre__ | stskeeps_, you wrote "seems to be fixed", not "fixed" :-P |
| 16:45.46 | stskeeps_ | ah |
| 16:45.47 | stskeeps_ | :P |
| 16:46.18 | andre__ | i forwarded your last comment to the internal ticket. but of course no answer yet... (but i started to simply reopen tickets when i don't get answers.) |
| 16:46.28 | andre__ | (but this one is not closed internally) |
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| 16:48.45 | Aquarina | hi |
| 16:49.13 | Aquarina | just got a new n810 (good for me, I know) |
| 16:49.20 | stskeeps_ | congratulations :) |
| 16:49.29 | Aquarina | is there a problem with the mail client and google apps? |
| 16:49.37 | Aquarina | just can't make it work! |
| 16:49.40 | andre__ | define "problem" |
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| 16:49.47 | stskeeps_ | i think there's a problem with mail client & everything, but that's me. |
| 16:49.51 | stskeeps_ | alternatives include Claws |
| 16:49.58 | Aquarina | it stays there ando doesn't connect |
| 16:50.20 | Aquarina | i tested claws but for limited time |
| 16:50.20 | andre__ | there are a few problems with google apps. tried last weekend and even got "your browser is not supported" by docs.google.com |
| 16:50.44 | GAN800 | sighs at qole. |
| 16:50.47 | andre__ | default mail client worked more or less fine for me |
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| 16:50.56 | Aquarina | hum... i did manage to edit simple stuff on docs though |
| 16:51.24 | GAN800 | Jaffa It's like he comes up with the helpful thing to say, then does exactly the opposite. |
| 16:51.28 | stskeeps_ | ow |
| 16:51.32 | stskeeps_ | pokes GAN800 |
| 16:51.37 | Aquarina | andre__, have you got a gmail account? |
| 16:51.45 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, see the Mer thing? |
| 16:51.45 | andre__ | Aquarina, yes |
| 16:51.54 | Aquarina | hum... |
| 16:52.00 | Aquarina | it must be me then |
| 16:52.06 | GAN800 | applauds virtual input. :/ |
| 16:52.37 | stskeeps_ | GAN800: he has the angle wrong really |
| 16:52.41 | Aquarina | andre__, did you have to put in some special port configuration or something? |
| 16:52.44 | GAN800 | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=293724&postcount=68 |
| 16:53.15 | GAN800 | Nokia is encouraging Mer for a variety of reasons. None of them that conspiracy theoried. |
| 16:53.23 | andre__ | Aquarina, do you get an error in Modest (the default email app)? |
| 16:53.31 | Aquarina | yes |
| 16:53.35 | Aquarina | i mean... |
| 16:53.50 | Aquarina | i can see no error, it just stays there doing nothing! |
| 16:54.37 | Aquarina | (I have to say, I use custom names for the G servers as I should in G apps |
| 16:54.39 | Aquarina | ) |
| 16:54.53 | andre__ | Aquarina, Incoming: imap.gmail.com, SSL (IMAP4S), Port 993. OutgoingL smtp.gmail.com, SSL, Port 465 |
| 16:54.54 | stskeeps_ | GAN800: ah, it's the complete opposite really of what qole says |
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| 16:55.09 | Aquarina | andre__, exactly |
| 16:55.13 | andre__ | ah, and SMTP Auth is set to "Login" here |
| 16:55.22 | stskeeps_ | GAN800: i bet nokia would be more than thrilled to have their primary OS stuff developed in a community as long as they can differentiate in nice ways |
| 16:55.30 | andre__ | Aquarina, hmm, works for me here, running the latest Diablo on an N810 :-/ |
| 16:55.31 | Aquarina | xcept i use imap.mydomain.com and smtp.mydomain.com |
| 16:55.47 | stskeeps_ | and with all the dumps of fremantle code they can hardly be blamed for not developing in the open |
| 16:55.54 | GAN800 | andre__, get my email? |
| 16:56.00 | Aquarina | they're correctly cnamed to G servers |
| 16:56.40 | Aquarina | andre__, I'm also running newest OS |
| 16:56.43 | Aquarina | I think |
| 16:56.48 | GAN800 | First problem is that saying 'Nokia' in this context is too much of an oversimplification. |
| 16:56.54 | Aquarina | just flashed it las week |
| 16:57.22 | GAN800 | What Quim wants and what somebody else wants may not totally mesh |
| 16:57.35 | Aquarina | hum... just thinking... |
| 16:57.56 | Aquarina | could it be ssl certificate that doesn't match? |
| 16:57.57 | GAN800 | I see Mer as an excellent way of encouraging community platform participation where Maemo has typically failed. |
| 16:58.31 | andre__ | GAN800, the template patch is on my todo list, yeah. if you refer to another email: no |
| 16:58.56 | GAN800 | Yeah, that's the one. |
| 16:59.19 | andre__ | yeah, some lag & Denmark backlog here... :-/ |
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| 17:02.09 | Aquarina | is there any way to allow modest to accept wrong ssl certificate? |
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| 17:04.24 | GAN800 | andre__, no worries, I didn't finish anything this sprint. ;) |
| 17:04.40 | andre__ | heh. i'm also not where i wanted to be... :-/ |
| 17:05.52 | GAN800 | At least I wont have to attend the sprint review. :D |
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| 17:12.49 | Macer | hm. wonder if this mb can read the DVD DL |
| 17:12.54 | Macer | well. write it actually |
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| 17:21.38 | fiferboy | lbt: ping? |
| 17:21.47 | lbt | heh |
| 17:21.54 | lbt | your timing is lousy ;) |
| 17:22.20 | lbt | I was just about to go for a workout |
| 17:22.23 | lbt | (I need it!) |
| 17:23.18 | fiferboy | Talk to you later! |
| 17:23.35 | lbt | ta... :) |
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| 17:37.06 | Macer | i hate crap that downloads so slowly |
| 17:37.11 | Jaffa | GAN800: "GTFO"? |
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| 17:39.51 | Jaffa | Next session time. |
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| 17:41.36 | lopz | hola |
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| 17:59.51 | GAN800 | Jaffa, you said hi, so I said get the fuck out. :P |
| 18:00.40 | RST38h | hmmmmmmmmm |
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| 18:06.00 | wazd | by the way |
| 18:06.02 | wazd | http://media.cellpassion.com/post/1475/lowres_nokrover.JPG |
| 18:06.13 | wazd | look carefully at the statusbar |
| 18:06.30 | wazd | Am I crazy or there are icons from OS 2007? |
| 18:06.45 | wazd | and on the left too |
| 18:06.50 | stskeeps_ | you're right |
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| 18:07.29 | Pavlov | that looks like a pretty poor photoshop job ;/ |
| 18:07.38 | RST38h | it does look like Photoshop |
| 18:07.51 | wazd | photoshop guy was slightly mad :) |
| 18:08.01 | wazd | RST38h: check it out :) http://tabletui.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/n900_31.jpg?w=650&h=481 |
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| 18:08.14 | Pavlov | the lighting on the keyboard is pretty inconsistent |
| 18:08.32 | Pavlov | on the whole thing, really |
| 18:11.37 | Pavlov | lighting is always the hardest part of photoshopping things ;/ |
| 18:11.47 | Macer | wow |
| 18:11.50 | Macer | david carradine hung himself? |
| 18:11.54 | Pavlov | apparently |
| 18:12.14 | Macer | weird |
| 18:12.23 | wazd | noway |
| 18:12.26 | aquatix | wazd: nice |
| 18:13.04 | aquatix | that rover pic has some buttons on the left side it seems though |
| 18:15.13 | RST38h | wazd: Stop teasing innocent people =) |
| 18:15.26 | RST38h | Macer: yep. unfortunately :( |
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| 18:16.45 | ShadowJK | maybe someone should do a photoshop/render that DOES have a d-pad, or one of those small joysticks that nokia had at one point on their phones |
| 18:17.31 | RST38h | Shadow: if this thing gets a dpad, that will most surely be on the back side |
| 18:17.51 | RST38h | Shadow: opposite to the camera. makes camera zooming/light controls dead easy too |
| 18:17.59 | lcuk | this thread is useless without holo projectors |
| 18:17.59 | mib_0glpxo | Hello, anybody known, is ther a problem with http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/merinstaller.install , i want to install Mer but this is not possible |
| 18:18.32 | stskeeps_ | hmm, that's bad |
| 18:18.34 | stskeeps_ | my server didn't restart |
| 18:18.54 | ShadowJK | how about a picture of a "N910" showing file manager or home screen claiming 60-something GB free on /, or a N910 with pop-out mini-projector? :-) |
| 18:19.00 | wazd | mib_0glpxo: have you signed EULA with your blood? That could be a problem |
| 18:19.17 | stskeeps_ | mib_0glpxo: i have a bit of issues with the server that merinstaller.install is on currently sadly |
| 18:19.28 | RST38h | Shadow: And a blue symbian key glowing ominously! |
| 18:20.12 | RST38h | wazd: especially if he used a hamster as an inkwell |
| 18:20.27 | RST38h | EULA clearly says: YOUR OWN blood |
| 18:20.30 | ShadowJK | RST38h, my E75 doesn't have the blue symbian key anymore :-( |
| 18:20.35 | mib_0glpxo | stskeeps_: ok, did you known how long it may take ? |
| 18:20.38 | ShadowJK | it does have a mini-N810-dpad though |
| 18:20.48 | RST38h | Shadow: Horror! Does it at least have a home key? |
| 18:20.57 | RST38h | absolutely hates n810 dpad |
| 18:21.21 | ShadowJK | RST38h, yeah. It's picture of a house |
| 18:21.41 | RST38h | At LINE=26956/28556: R1[17]=0x5000 <> R2[17]=0x0 (PC=0x20051218) <=== Am I good or what? :) |
| 18:22.00 | ShadowJK | what are you doing? :) |
| 18:22.02 | RST38h | Shadow: Actually, reviewers welcomed the change of the picture |
| 18:22.06 | stskeeps_ | mib_0glpxo: i'm going to fix it in DNS irght now sec |
| 18:22.12 | RST38h | Shadow: Nobody could figure out what that blue thing was |
| 18:22.21 | RST38h | Shadow: A binary translator |
| 18:22.33 | mib_0glpxo | stskeeps_: thnx, i will try to install it later |
| 18:23.03 | RST38h | Shadow: That is the output from the step-by-step execution verifier script, it basically says that everything up to line 26956 matches 100% |
| 18:23.32 | ShadowJK | matches with what.. |
| 18:23.41 | RST38h | With the original machine |
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| 18:32.16 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, get it on maemo.org already. |
| 18:32.36 | stskeeps_ | ah |
| 18:32.36 | stskeeps_ | yes |
| 18:32.39 | stskeeps_ | something we can use garage for |
| 18:33.14 | qwerty12_N810 | Aim higher. Extras[-devel] :p |
| 18:33.19 | stskeeps_ | mmm |
| 18:39.30 | GAN800 | repository.maemo.org/mer |
| 18:40.25 | stskeeps_ | we're actually kinda happy at opensuse for now |
| 18:40.32 | stskeeps_ | for installer and such, maybe |
| 18:40.42 | stskeeps_ | but that's another topic for some time |
| 18:40.49 | lcuk | technically cant an obs build server exist within the maemo.org infrastructure itself |
| 18:40.57 | stskeeps_ | yeah, of course |
| 18:41.01 | lcuk | which could also neatly get round the other issues you were mentioning |
| 18:41.47 | lcuk | with limitations on opensuse building certain types of packages |
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| 18:44.44 | hub | lcuk: the problem with OBS is that you have to "write" a .spec to make the .deb |
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| 18:44.57 | hub | lcuk: albeit they seem to have an auto-import |
| 18:45.04 | stskeeps_ | eh |
| 18:45.08 | stskeeps_ | we just feed it dsc |
| 18:45.17 | stskeeps_ | and it compiles with standard dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 18:45.35 | lcuk | hub, thats not a big deal according to our onsite obs expert |
| 18:46.13 | lcuk | has seen and heard of many packages being sent through the cleaners without an issue |
| 18:46.24 | lcuk | i hope mine is one of them soon :) |
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| 18:47.43 | stskeeps_ | GAN800: is it just me or is 2010 agenda not pulled out often enough? |
| 18:47.59 | GAN800 | Probably |
| 18:48.26 | stskeeps_ | (was my reply sane enough?) |
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| 18:52.02 | Jaffa | wazd: Your Rover mockup has the wrong key layout (and the bora icons were pointed out ages ago ;-)) |
| 18:52.38 | wazd | Jaffa: my mockup is just redraw of the small one :) |
| 18:53.07 | stskeeps_ | Jaffa: i think as to not upset marketing it might be good not to mock too much up :> |
| 18:53.20 | fiferboy | lbt: re-ping? |
| 18:53.23 | stskeeps_ | but heck, i would still buy one |
| 18:53.23 | stskeeps_ | :P |
| 18:54.16 | lbt | ah, good timing :) |
| 18:54.23 | Jaffa | stskeeps_: ;-) |
| 18:54.25 | lbt | just sat down |
| 18:54.43 | fiferboy | Good timing cancels out the bad |
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| 18:56.24 | lbt | easily |
| 18:56.45 | fiferboy | lbt: I'm having a weird problem with fingerscrolling, but I'm not sure if it is because of my changes or not |
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| 18:57.34 | lbt | what problem? |
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| 18:58.04 | fiferboy | When in AutoScroll the timer executes and stops properly shown by qDebug statements |
| 18:58.25 | fiferboy | But when I scroll the list, and then grab the list while it is moving and scroll again, the timer never stops |
| 18:58.50 | fiferboy | To be more accurate, qDebug shows a timer stopping, but then a second timer continuing and never stopping. |
| 18:59.01 | lbt | OK... I just copied over the lib |
| 18:59.29 | fiferboy | I think a second timer is started when I do the grab, instead of using the already existing timer. |
| 18:59.31 | lbt | but ut hangs |
| 18:59.50 | fiferboy | lbt: Before the program initializes? |
| 18:59.57 | lbt | I've been writing docs all day... let me get this running |
| 18:59.58 | lbt | yes |
| 19:00.24 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, it needs more cowbell. :P |
| 19:00.56 | fiferboy | lbt: I wonder if the problem that I fixed for my build (which wasn't a problem in your build) creates a problem for you |
| 19:01.13 | Jaffa | goes to find some more freebies |
| 19:01.30 | stskeeps_ | GAN800: O_o? |
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| 19:03.25 | lbt | yep... I'm using your code... |
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| 19:04.02 | stskeeps_ | 'lo x29a |
| 19:06.37 | fiferboy | lbt: My changes to the intitliaztion problem I was having is to have the FingerScrollable property set like FingerScrollBars in QAbstractScrollAreaPrivateScroller |
| 19:06.41 | Macer | ugh this is going to suck |
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| 19:07.26 | Macer | i need to quit using smbfs for stuff on my artigo |
| 19:07.33 | fiferboy | lbt: Your comment in eventFiler looks like the question I have |
| 19:07.35 | fiferboy | / Would it be safer to kill the kinetic timer or just let it die? |
| 19:07.38 | Macer | most importantly for the downloads part. it's killing me |
| 19:09.48 | lbt | mm |
| 19:09.58 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, sorry, I think I may be vaguely feverish here. :P |
| 19:10.29 | stskeeps_ | GAN800: ah, :P |
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| 19:10.54 | Macer | The recession has caused tax collections to plummet and the need for social services to soar. |
| 19:11.13 | Macer | IL congress tried to pass a 50% income tax increase here |
| 19:11.16 | Macer | that is MASSIVE |
| 19:11.26 | Macer | they have to be on drugs |
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| 19:13.14 | JamieBennett | anyone experience with packaging want to help talk me through packaging up pysqlite? |
| 19:14.17 | GAN800 | Taxes for their drug habits |
| 19:14.37 | GAN800 | Moblin phone is hilarity. |
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| 19:15.44 | Macer | Some 28 states have proposed cutting spending on higher education and personnel, while 27 want to reduce funding for K-12 education. |
| 19:16.04 | Macer | wow. they want to cut spending for public schooling :) they are even more nuts than theones who wanted the 50% tax increase |
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| 19:16.16 | Macer | you NEVER reduce funding for education |
| 19:16.52 | Firebird | +1 for the tax increase |
| 19:17.32 | Macer | i don't understand this idealogy of rewarding failure that seems to strive here :) |
| 19:17.42 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, you are aware of the cowbell sketch, though, right? |
| 19:17.50 | mgedmin | hahaha |
| 19:18.01 | mgedmin | has 'failure' in the list of irc hightlight words |
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| 19:18.21 | RST38h | the list wants to tell you something... |
| 19:18.34 | stskeeps_ | GAN800: not entirely |
| 19:18.49 | Macer | well. i mean i'm just saying. "Dropped out of high school... don't want to get a job.. had 10 babies from 9 different fathers.... ok. here's section 8 and a link card so you don't have to do anything your entire life." |
| 19:18.50 | stskeeps_ | GAN800: windows xp phone is worse |
| 19:18.53 | stskeeps_ | 2 hour uptime! |
| 19:19.02 | GAN800 | Look it up! Christopher Walken. |
| 19:19.13 | stskeeps_ | ah. if it's walken, i might. |
| 19:19.31 | RST38h | Macer: This has to come with forced sterilization |
| 19:19.48 | RST38h | Otherwise, there is no sense doing it, indeed. |
| 19:20.00 | Macer | social security is more "Oh. Ok. So you worked for 50 years of your life and didn't bother saving $10 a week and now you need more social security and medicare and medicaid in order to support you with your failed liver from drinking your money away? Oh.. ok no problem. Here you go. The 5th generation from this one can pay for it." |
| 19:20.10 | fiferboy | lbt: Where are startTimer() and killTimer() defined? |
| 19:20.22 | lbt | QObject I think |
| 19:20.43 | Macer | RST38h: haha |
| 19:20.47 | lbt | http://doc.trolltech.com/4.5/qobject.html#startTimer |
| 19:20.51 | RST38h | Macer: in 20-30 years your view of social security will change. |
| 19:21.05 | Macer | RST38h: yeah. of course it will. because i won't be getting any of it :) |
| 19:21.07 | RST38h | Please come back then and tell us all what you think =) |
| 19:21.27 | RST38h | Macer: If I remember correctly, social security is relatively easy to fix |
| 19:21.47 | Macer | hahaha.. i would say "well. i am sure glad i saved my money from when i was 21. i guess i will use this cheap sorry ass social security check to order some pizzas for the grandkids." |
| 19:21.55 | RST38h | Macer: Will cost more taxes but not a lot |
| 19:22.03 | RST38h | Macer: The real problem is medicare/medicaid |
| 19:22.09 | fiferboy | lbt: Thanks |
| 19:22.15 | Macer | social security is screwed up too |
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| 19:22.20 | stskeeps_ | hugs his socialist country |
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| 19:22.33 | Macer | i don't want to pay it . i want my social security money. i think it would be safer if i had it |
| 19:22.36 | RST38h | Macer: It may be, but fixing it is doable |
| 19:22.40 | Macer | i wonder if you can ask to do that |
| 19:22.50 | JamieBennett | trying to upload pysqlite and it says I need to upload the .changes file, I don't have one with this package, any ideas? |
| 19:23.03 | x29a | stskeeps_: whatup? im now officially naked |
| 19:23.06 | Macer | RST38h: and everybody preaches national healthcare .. do you know the kind of chaos that would create? |
| 19:23.11 | x29a | just sold my n810 |
| 19:23.17 | Macer | i think it's bad enough we have medicaid/medicare |
| 19:23.19 | RST38h | Macer: You can always move to Russia, 13% flat tax on residents |
| 19:23.22 | stskeeps_ | x29a: not much, i got a n810 from nokia :P |
| 19:23.29 | stskeeps_ | do you miss yours? :P |
| 19:23.30 | RST38h | Macer: employer pays social security |
| 19:23.30 | Macer | RST38h: i think i will to tell you the truth |
| 19:23.32 | Macer | :) |
| 19:23.38 | Macer | RST38h: screw social security |
| 19:23.52 | Macer | i would rather stick that money into my savings acct |
| 19:24.01 | RST38h | Macer: Of course, you will get ~$1500..$3000 a month in salary =) |
| 19:24.27 | Macer | the cost of living is probably a little lower |
| 19:25.04 | Macer | but i think you're right. i'm going to move to another country if i can |
| 19:25.08 | Macer | i'm sick of the US |
| 19:25.19 | Macer | nobody has a job so they can't fund their pork projects |
| 19:25.49 | Macer | so they hike up taxes 50% just so they can plant some trees in a state park. it's really bad. |
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| 19:26.49 | Macer | we sure are in a sad state of affairs |
| 19:26.59 | JamieBennett | do you change the maintainer field in the debian/control file to your own or leave it as the original package? |
| 19:28.49 | mikkov_ | JamieBennett: if you made any changes, change it |
| 19:29.39 | JamieBennett | mikkov_ Just packaging up and changed the debian/control file. Its complaining on the build about the original authors sign key not being available |
| 19:31.14 | mikkov_ | that counts as a change. you can generally ignore signing warnings |
| 19:31.29 | JamieBennett | mikkov_ Thanks |
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| 19:32.29 | mikkov_ | JamieBennett: change the package version too |
| 19:33.25 | JamieBennett | is it just be or are the instructions for building a little confusing at times. The web based uploaded says upload the .changes file from the package directory, I look for a .changes file (literally) and don't find one. Its _packagename_-version-something.changes. Doh! |
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| 19:34.08 | parigaudi | hi |
| 19:34.36 | JamieBennett | mikkov_ Change the standards-version in the control file? |
| 19:35.13 | GAN800 | Macer, don't kid yourself. It may suck, but we're WAY better off. |
| 19:35.51 | JamieBennett | mikkov_ What if my version number conflicts with the next upstream version number? |
| 19:36.04 | parigaudi | on a new n810, the first thing the device asks for when powered up is the language. is there any way to have the language set to English without having 12-hou clock format (but 24h instead)? |
| 19:36.12 | mikkov_ | JamieBennett: don't change standards-version |
| 19:36.31 | mikkov_ | JamieBennett: what's the current package version? |
| 19:37.03 | JamieBennett | mikkov_ 2.5.5-1 |
| 19:37.31 | mikkov_ | JamieBennett: so new package version would be 2.5.5-1maemo1 |
| 19:37.47 | JamieBennett | mikkov_ makes sense |
| 19:37.49 | mikkov_ | next upstream would be 2.5.5-2 |
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| 19:38.48 | fiferboy | lbt: Fixed the timer issue, but it brings up another minor issue |
| 19:38.59 | lbt | what did you do? |
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| 19:39.12 | fiferboy | If the scrollarea is in overshoot during the first timer interrupt, things get wierd. |
| 19:39.39 | fiferboy | I added a variable to store the timer_id, and do a check before starting a new timer. |
| 19:39.41 | GAN800 | sighs at "Unsatisfied with bugs.maemo.org" |
| 19:39.54 | fiferboy | If the timer_id is not 0, I kill the timer before starting a new one. |
| 19:41.23 | lbt | shouldn't be needed |
| 19:41.51 | lbt | This is probably wrong : if (scrollState == AutoScroll and xScrollState == NotScrolling and yScrollState == NotScrolling) { |
| 19:42.17 | stskeeps_ | GAN800: if you're interested in some non-head-bashing work in mer, i'm sure we can find something that won't have you bash your head against the wall constantly :P |
| 19:42.32 | lbt | I suspect : if (xScrollState == NotScrolling and yScrollState == NotScrolling) { |
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| 19:44.15 | fiferboy | I'll give it a try |
| 19:44.48 | JamieBennett | mikkov_ Thanks for you help, its in the build queue now. Whats the betting it fails though ;) |
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| 19:52.38 | fiferboy | lbt: That works |
| 19:52.55 | lbt | good |
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| 20:00.50 | lbt | can you work on getting your git and svn in sync fiferboy... need to be able to break these patches down a bit |
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| 20:02.53 | fiferboy | lbt: I'm working from svn for now, since the version matches that on my tablet and the hildon patches aren't in gitorious yet |
| 20:03.21 | lbt | true |
| 20:03.44 | lbt | I'm doing the property thing differently though |
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| 20:04.21 | fiferboy | Are you working from the gitorious repo? |
| 20:04.37 | lbt | only for fingerscrolling |
| 20:04.56 | lbt | it's a bit of a mess atm |
| 20:05.09 | lbt | gnuton said he was going to push RSN |
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| 20:05.49 | fiferboy | Once everything is in gitorious I'll switch over to that |
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| 20:15.23 | parigaudi | can i use my N810 usb cable as a network connection to my linux pc? if so, how? |
| 20:16.10 | stskeeps_ | look at USB networking |
| 20:16.24 | stskeeps_ | http://wiki.maemo.org/USB_networking |
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| 20:18.32 | parigaudi | ok thx |
| 20:20.28 | plok | Someone here got decent sound with mer 0.13? It sounds really distorted here on a n810 |
| 20:20.47 | stskeeps_ | define decent sound |
| 20:20.53 | stskeeps_ | we got alsa working but that's obviously not perfect |
| 20:21.10 | qwerty12_N810 | Someone should add http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php to the windows part (nokia built kernel with rndis fix) |
| 20:21.11 | stskeeps_ | Meiz_n810: did sound work in 0.13? |
| 20:21.18 | stskeeps_ | qwerty12_N810: wow, they did? |
| 20:21.37 | stskeeps_ | plok: used the /Sound guide? |
| 20:21.54 | plok | stskeeps_: Yes, i used that one |
| 20:21.56 | Meiz_n810 | stskeeps_: only if osso-dsp-loader is installed from the old repo |
| 20:22.06 | plok | stskeeps_: only with mpd the sound is really distorted |
| 20:22.10 | Meiz_n810 | it's documented in the wiki |
| 20:22.22 | stskeeps_ | plok: k - volume may be a factor i guess |
| 20:22.33 | qwerty12_N810 | stskeeps_: yep, not included with diablo but available to flash separately :) |
| 20:22.38 | plok | hehe, yes i spend an hour with alsamixer trying all the combinations |
| 20:22.45 | fiferboy | lbt: I sent you some new files with cleanups and bug fixes |
| 20:22.57 | stskeeps_ | plok: .. you don't have pulseaudio coding experience do you? :) |
| 20:23.01 | lbt | 'k thanks :) |
| 20:23.15 | fiferboy | NP. Have you been able to run it yet? |
| 20:23.22 | plok | hehe, no only alsa |
| 20:23.39 | lbt | plok: want a learning opportunity? |
| 20:23.54 | stskeeps_ | damnit :P we have a omap2-dsp pulseaudio plugin but it needs a bit of updating to work with latest pulseaudio |
| 20:24.08 | lbt | fiferboy: no.... |
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| 20:24.28 | stskeeps_ | plok: http://gitorious.org/~elmarco/pulseaudio/pa-work/commit/d92f79b8efe591a4dc184ed803859bcdf7173b46 |
| 20:24.40 | qwerty12_N810 | plok: in Maemo, libao with ao.conf = alsa09 made mpd work w/out distorted sound |
| 20:24.45 | plok | hehe, i can take a look into it, but it will not be untill next week (trying hard to graduate before summer :p) |
| 20:24.57 | stskeeps_ | heh, i'm trying to graduate in general, heh |
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| 20:32.22 | plok | qwerty12_N810: thanks :D |
| 20:32.28 | stskeeps_ | did the trick? |
| 20:33.07 | plok | i hope to find out in a few minutes :) |
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| 20:33.43 | Meiz_n810 | qwerty12_N810: it is nice to have a hw-keyboard? :P |
| 20:34.11 | qwerty12_N810 | Meiz_n810, certainly :P |
| 20:34.46 | yigal | would someone be willing to give me a suggestion as to which OS I should install on my n800 I a slightly messed up Diablo but maybe I should try Mer? |
| 20:34.57 | Macer | well. guess my damn macbook doesn't burn DL discs |
| 20:34.58 | yigal | 8gb SD |
| 20:35.11 | Meiz_n810 | timeless timed out |
| 20:35.13 | yigal | Macer: really |
| 20:35.20 | yigal | Macer: that's sucky |
| 20:35.25 | timeless_mbp_ | Meiz_n810: pong |
| 20:35.31 | Macer | yigal: yah it is especially since i need to burn an osx dvd |
| 20:35.49 | Macer | leopard dvd is like 7G so i have to convert it to an iso and burn it in nero on a win box |
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| 20:36.24 | Macer | what really sucks is that i can't go down there right now so i'm converting it over wifi.. this is going to take forever. |
| 20:36.26 | timeless_mbp | Meiz_n810: i upgraded my g5 from 10.3.9 to 10.5.6 |
| 20:36.41 | Macer | haha |
| 20:36.44 | Macer | that's a pretty big upgrade :) |
| 20:36.46 | yigal | no apple for me, but I understand the allure |
| 20:36.52 | timeless_mbp | and now ethernet doesn't work |
| 20:36.59 | Macer | i was going to install it on a shuttle K45 |
| 20:37.07 | Meiz_n810 | timeless_mdp: g5? |
| 20:37.12 | Macer | http://mobile.osnews.com/story.php/21564 |
| 20:37.17 | Macer | G5 is awesome |
| 20:37.18 | Macer | i wish i had one |
| 20:37.22 | Macer | i miss ppc :( |
| 20:37.31 | timeless_mbp | yep |
| 20:37.51 | Meiz_n810 | g5 has something to do with apple right? |
| 20:37.57 | Macer | plus they had sexy cases |
| 20:38.18 | Macer | but i always thought ppc was better than x86 :-\ |
| 20:38.31 | Meiz_n810 | has no idea what's going on |
| 20:39.12 | Macer | G5 was apple's higher end stuff a while back that used a ppc cpu |
| 20:39.35 | Macer | they're still pretty strong even today. i should buy one on ebay or something |
| 20:39.37 | timeless_mbp | yep |
| 20:39.47 | locutus | G5 is slow by modern standards |
| 20:39.48 | locutus | dog slow :P |
| 20:40.06 | Macer | locutus: heh. depends on how you look at it. |
| 20:40.13 | Macer | i would easily be able to tolerate it :) |
| 20:40.34 | Macer | i'd still love to have one |
| 20:40.44 | locutus | oh, i could argue that my 90MHz. 68060 Amiga is Fast by modern standards then |
| 20:42.07 | Macer | no but it is probably as fast as PCs that came out 4 years after it :) |
| 20:42.14 | locutus | 'haha' |
| 20:42.21 | locutus | points to the Core i7 on his desktop |
| 20:42.44 | Macer | do they call them "Core i7" ? |
| 20:44.07 | Macer | i would argue that the ppc arch goes faster than comparable x86 arch |
| 20:44.55 | Macer | meaning a G5 would probably do certain things 30% faster than a comparable x86 based pc at the time |
| 20:46.49 | Meiz_n810 | Macer: 200MHz ppc does some performance tests 20x faster than 1.5GHz Celeron |
| 20:47.07 | Meiz_n810 | but Celeron is a piece of **** anyway |
| 20:48.13 | locutus | Macer: how does that matter now? |
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| 20:48.24 | locutus | also, even back then the G5 wasnt exactly competitive :-/ |
| 20:48.30 | locutus | (why am i argueing this, this is retarded) |
| 20:52.26 | Macer | locutus: i don't know either. i just like G5s and would like to have one :) |
| 20:52.35 | locutus | i dont see the point with having one now? |
| 20:52.59 | Macer | to each their own ;) |
| 20:53.32 | Macer | i don't even like osx all that much haha |
| 20:54.00 | timeless_mbp | ok, apple care got my mac to talk to its network interface :) |
| 20:54.03 | Macer | but i think i do like it more than windows and less thatn some X wms |
| 20:54.37 | Macer | a wii is just a G4 :) |
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| 20:59.05 | JamieBennett | anyone know where python.mk is installed from (I don't seem to have it) |
| 21:00.05 | qwerty12_N810 | possibly cdbs |
| 21:00.38 | JamieBennett | nope, just installed that |
| 21:01.26 | JamieBennett | one of my packages is looking for /usr/share/python/python.mk and I don't have it |
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| 21:41.20 | radic | uii, en locus *draufsetz* |
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| 22:05.03 | radic | tach herwood |
| 22:05.10 | radic | hoi minra |
| 22:05.22 | Macer | wtf |
| 22:05.28 | Macer | is an iso seriously this much larger than a dmg? |
| 22:05.45 | minra | tach alter |
| 22:05.55 | radic | Macer: what? |
| 22:06.08 | radic | minra: dein nick klingt so weiblich# |
| 22:06.13 | Macer | i'm converting a dmg to an iso |
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| 22:06.30 | radic | Macer: what's a dmg? |
| 22:06.41 | minra | dann kannste mal loswichsen |
| 22:07.04 | Macer | radic: disc image |
| 22:07.28 | radic | minra: bekomme ich noch en bild von dir? |
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| 22:07.38 | radic | wb Locus |
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| 22:07.58 | minra | besser ohne |
| 22:08.05 | Locutus73 | Hi |
| 22:08.09 | radic | minra: wieso? |
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| 22:09.02 | Locutus73 | Does anyone know what's up with maemobox.org? |
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| 22:10.38 | radic | <-- I drunk to much alk |
| 22:10.45 | GAN800 | Locutus, it went down. |
| 22:10.47 | radic | and took GBL |
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| 22:11.19 | locutus | GAN800: whut? |
| 22:12.07 | Locutus73 | damn... is there any chance to get b-man's Ubuntu image anywhere? |
| 22:12.32 | radic | *Locutus73 en bier hinstell* |
| 22:13.02 | b-man16 | Loctus: are you having problems retrieving it? |
| 22:13.34 | Locutus73 | yes maemobox.org seems to be down |
| 22:14.04 | Locutus73 | various dns cannot resolve it anymore |
| 22:14.41 | b-man16 | oh, no 0.o |
| 22:14.49 | Locutus73 | even opendns cannot resolve it |
| 22:15.15 | b-man16 | it looks like it got tooken down :((( |
| 22:15.43 | Locutus73 | any mirror to ubuntu_9.04_n8x0-2.2_rootfs.tgz ? |
| 22:16.14 | b-man16 | i'm afraid not :;( |
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| 22:17.14 | Locutus73 | I hope you have a backup... |
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| 22:17.49 | GAN800 | andrewfblack had to take it down. |
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| 22:18.57 | stskeeps_ | properly advertised for quite a while :P |
| 22:20.55 | Locutus73 | yes, I read it on talk.maemo.org, but too late |
| 22:21.17 | Locutus73 | when I decided to give jaunty a try it was too late |
| 22:22.02 | b-man16 | calls himself an idiot for not properly preparing for this XP |
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| 22:35.56 | Locutus73 | maybe someone on talk.maemo.org has a copy of ubuntu_9.04_n8x0-2.2_rootfs.tgz that can be put online somewhere |
| 22:42.11 | Locutus73 | good night, gotta go |
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| 23:02.15 | rdvonz | someone, someone someone someone, Help me with pyrdesktop |
| 23:02.22 | rdvonz | I keep getting a connection refused dialog. |
| 23:04.06 | rdvonz | Really? 253 idlers here.... :( |
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| 23:16.44 | Macer | damnit |
| 23:16.48 | Macer | this boot 132 doesn't boot |
| 23:16.51 | Macer | bastard |
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| 23:22.30 | GAN8001 | Jesus christ |
| 23:22.34 | Proteous | you should rename it noboot 132 |
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| 23:22.54 | GAN8001 | Fuck Talk. http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=293829&postcount=44 |
| 23:24.28 | GAN8001 | bangs his head on the desk. http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=293773&postcount=11 |
| 23:26.52 | Macer | Proteous: i guess i need to use a different iso to get it to boot on the shuttle |
| 23:26.57 | Macer | i figured the intel one would work |
| 23:35.05 | Macer | omfg are you kidding me? :) |
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